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>What is Morimens?
A Slay the Spire inspired card battle gacha featuring elements from the Cthulhu Mythos.

>Official Links
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3052450/Morimens/
https://x.com/morimensofcl

>Arc 2 Chapter 6 PV
https://youtu.be/GZFhJdAeUwE

>Ongoing Events (V2.6.1)
09/21 - 10/19 ○ Character Awakening: Ogier: Oathbound
09/21 - 10/19 ○ Character Event: Should Glory Fade
10/05 - 11/02 ○ Rerun Awakenings: Castor/Miryam/Xu
10/05 - 11/02 ○ Rerun Event: Mirrored Prisoner
10/19 - 11/16 ○ Character Awakening: Vivian
10/19 - 11/16 ○ Character Event: And Then There Were None
11/02 - 11/30 ○ Rerun Awakenings: Pickman/Tulu/Lily
11/02 - 11/30 ○ Rerun Event: Dark Side of the Canvas

>V2.7: 2026/11/16 (as of initially announced, TBC)

>Guides & Wikis
https://skeydb.com/database
https://morimens.huijiwiki.com/
[Boss Compendium] https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QYciqHJY3BilDcdvBiIT_dOqXOdqGX-4FBDj5rL6qyA
[Mythag Compendium] https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TCU7LJRzqKeuvLe97y_TfGZ-j6jq5bZX6hskAAJ2mFQ
[Flares's Guide] https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cC7FOebdy_J2hONmVT1QUSk6SxIRTuVoI4XADVlq5JU

>Forgotten Eve
>>584548273
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>>585588645
and then there's GLotan who has a unique animation for her dimensional image that you will rarely see
and Doresain who has the same animation for his 1 cost and evernight's revel for whatever reason...
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>noo infinite scaling was a mistake
>noo corrossion was a mistake
>noo hp% damage was a mistake
How does this cat imagine people playing dissolution slop without all that?
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>>585597420
AA and + 12 WoDs. Just the way dev truly intended to experience the game and have "fun"
>but most teams don't deal
Shhhhhhhh. All that matters is the investment.
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>>585597420
I don't think he considers corrosion a mistake. They designed corrosion with the intent of it being a sort of vuln replacement but with numbers that can be tuned.

Vuln can theoretically provide an indefinite amount of value for as long as you can deal damage. Meanwhile 50k corrosion for example provides 150k extra damage (which is the amount of extra damage you would get from a 300k hit on vuln) and then stops increasing your damage any further.

What he considers a mistake is being able to apply high amounts of corrosion multiple times a turn (like with Saya), to the point that you've applied so much of it that you never run out. Once this happens, corrosion stops being the "limited vuln" they envisioned and becomes "vuln that increases your damage by 300% instead of 50%".
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thank god light doesn't play the game, otherwise he'd make it even more unfun
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>>585599171
he does play it, just not on the highest difficulties
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>>585598775
Saya was kind of a mistake. I don't think the corrosion from Castor (not that high) or Gogier (turn limited) or Viv (PITA to apply) is that bad.
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>>585608885
Saya's kit is super well designed and it's a bit of a shame her 0 cost is so strong that many people completely ignore the rest of her kit, never rouse her and only play her for the corrosion spam.
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>>585597420
>>585598329
I have 4 limited AAs (Xu, Mouchette, Birds).
I used only one of them (Xu) in my 500 run this rotation because dissolution difficulty is too retarded for normal teams.
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>>585612729
you couldn't find a spot for an AA Castor?
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>>585613175
(already reset W1)
Technically I could put Castor in W5, but I was trying Hameln out. Looking at other people's replays, I don't think it would be an improvement with Castor anyway. Sure, it would be a different comp, but not a better comp.
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Death resist didn't proc last thread...
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>>585617078
It was already past bump limit
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>>585598775
Actually I think the real mistake is G Ogier having damage based corrosion that procs itself on repeats.

Which does make sense from a design perspective, you should not make a status mechanic that rewards high damage also have its values scale with said damage. Which is even a design constraint you see in previous corrosion characters, i.e Castor not proccing his own corrosion with feathers

Current usage of G Ogier isn't even a corrosion character because he instantly consumes all the stacks he applies.
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>>585597420
Unironically the goal is that its only AA and +12 wheels in max difficulty D-tide, with just insane raw stats from having everything level 90 and account level at 100.
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>>585617580
I don't think his kit by itself is a problem honestly, Arachne is the primary reason for his inflated damage.
Remove Arachne from his team and you'll realize that he can't keep up with other meta characters like Vortice or even 24/GHelot.
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>>585618170
Its a mix of things but the problem is how many multipliers he can stack, even if you took away Arachne he limits design space for future damage multiplier supports. And to me the most egregious is his particular usage of corrosion, which is just a pure 300% more damage multi by itself.

Every other corrosion character generally relies on something else to proc it, but since G Ogier is kind of crippled (negative draw, extremely high arith consumption), NOT being able to self proc makes him really awkward to play, but the self proc just gives him a "free" in stat budgeting 3x damage multi.
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>>585618883
I don't think you realize how carried he is by astral reign. Try playing him in P-Dive and you'll see what I mean.
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Rather than a drawback, Gogier's negative draw should be turned into a strength bonus to represent him channeling the raw power of his inner darkness.
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>>585618170
The problem with gogier is that he is awkward to play in general. I used him >>585614694 in W5, and while strong, it was still awkward as fuck to play.
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>>585619632
I think they wanted the negative draw to be offset by the extra shield/str from exalt and the guilt stacks that you get in exchange for the lost undertow, but both of those effects feel so weak that you'd rather just not exalt at all unless absolutely necessary.
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>>585619214
To me his biggest issue is his rouse dependency, not so much soulforge. We'll have to see how they adjust rouse access in the next ruleset, if he can't turn 1 hamelin rouse -> t2 gogier rouse then yeah he's gonna be pretty shit to play.
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>>585619821
it's just bad. a character who rewards you with absolutely broken damage if you never see his exalt. whose str scaling mechanics are so impossibly clunky and awkward that people AA him and go base DMG and don't have to play around anything. gogier carry is dumb, bad, failed design. i have him OE and use him as a shitty str scaling support because that's how his kit feels rewarding to play gameplay-wise even if it's mediocre by comparison.
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>>585619821
Yeah it's basically a glass canon team with no long term survivability and you have to pray for good draws.
Almost feels like that pre-madness GLotan/Arachne glass canon team except instead of oneshotting entire rooms, you oneshot mobs one by one. And it's a lot stronger against bosses I guess but survivability remains a concern.
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>>585621096
>failed design
That's a bit harsh. His design is interesting, it's just that his power is a bit skewed in one direction. People do whatever feels rewarding and if exalting at 3 undertow doesn't feel rewarding then people won't do it.
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>>585598329
>AA and + 12 WoDs. Just the way dev truly intended to experience the game and have "fun"
Dissolution tier should be balanced as the designated whale playground. Dolphins and f2ps don't need to freak out just because they can't clear it.
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I feel kinda dirty using Liz in traphase...
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>>585626850
They absolutely have to undo her buffs next patch. Her numbers are so high now that they make no sense.
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smol news today but tomorrow will be big news
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/mori/ love
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Stop being cute
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>>585622210
Also it’s not awful to have a fat shield in your back pocket for emergencies. It takes 3 turns to ramp back up all the way but most characters aren’t ready to burst every single turn anyway.
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>>585642949
the worst part is they could have buffed his portrait relic to gain 2 stacks on spear instead of max5 which could have actually corrected some of the errors in his design. but instead portrait makes it incredibly punishing to exalt and also removes all the cost of not exalting.
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morinight
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>>585643487
Yeah the portrait ironically locks you into NEVER EXHALT mode more than portraitless play would.
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>>585643487
It's probably balanced around his posse. Problem, of course at the moment, is that PChaos locks the equipped Posse on rouse so you can only use it a limited number of times in a fight.
GOgier's exalt should probably be more useful once the update comes around, since PChaos would get a free posse every turn, so he can technically gain 2 spear stacks every turn. Maybe even four, if you gamble like hell.

>>585619821
Rather than being able to draw his spear on strike, it should've just given his spear retain. The fact that you can barely plan around when his card comes around is what makes ultra the most viable realm for him in the first place.

With that bit of QoL you can spread out his sin stacks over multiple turns, without relying on Arachne's Rouse or Casiah's Telekinesis.
Without it, putting the spear card in Ultra sort of eats up his Soulforge stacks so he's extremely reliant on which cards he plays first.
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>>585642949
Yeah I don't have problem using his exalt once in a while but it's true you better use his posse to get the stacks back fast.

IMO he can be pretty fun actually.
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>>585645951
>Rather than being able to draw his spear on strike, it should've just given his spear retain.
Had a bit of a brain fart here.
Was referring to Gogier's E2.
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>missed out on daily + weekly
???
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>>585655989
When reset's still 30 minutes away*
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Good morinight.
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The weekly rewards should include 1 Gnostic Primer.
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Three (3) Clems. You too could be surrounded by Clems.
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W4 this time is unbelievably annoying. Holy shit.
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>>585671090
Is that not how D-Tide is in general?
I don't play it that often though.
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>>585671753
I generally like dtide, it's the only mode I play for something other tham rewards, but look at this lineup.
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>>585672446 (me)
Mouchette would be amazing here but they just HAD to put anti-Mouchette boss as Elite 2
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Balance in this game sucks...
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>>585675603
biva shill won't like this post
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>80 pulls
>still no Xu
At least I got two Faint dupes, but...
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>>585672446
the new buffs etc are coming out during this cycle right?
wasnt this boss nerfed along with all tentacles?
might be why
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>>585678196
I think the buffs are assumed to be for 2.7
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>>585645951
>PChaos would get a free posse every turn
the free posse is going to use the charge system so it's every 3 turns
which is still much much better than right now
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Now that I think about it, Sanga Saya should be one of the better comp for W4 if you can get past the first fight.
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>>585677723
yeah it sucks when rng decides to be mean but you'll get there bwo, no worries
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>>585655989
guide to never miss your weekly:
>don't use your pure cores as you get them but save some amount for weeks where you won't be rolling elsewhere
>don't buy out the script shop immediately on monthly reset, instead stagger your purchases so that you spend 1 million scripts per week (500k will be from the weekly purple xp potions, the remainder will usually be from buying skill mats)
if you do the above, you will almost always be able to finish your weekly on the first day it's up
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>>585679690
Oh, right. I got used to rousing two turns in a row and just assumed that was how it was going to work.

On another note, Arachne's going to be upscaled again by the Realm charge mechanic, considering she has to put back another card for every card she pulls out of ultra space.
She can just generate weave cards like there's no tomorrow now, while enabling other attacker's to do their thing.
If only there was a good ultra dps that worked with her...
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>>585672446
Dios mio! *Draws a cross* Lemurians!
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Covenant improvements today. (pic 1 of 2)
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>>585684920
2nd pic
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Game is saved
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>>585619214
he's broken in pdive tho...
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i don't want to do pdive again
i don't want to do traphase again
i don't want to do train again
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best support for w4?
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>>585686750
For lower difficulty, Doresian. idk what for higher difficulty.
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>>585685316
Absolutely not. In the current rotation he's an enhanced awakener with an enormous x1.5 multiplier to all his stats so his usage is inflated.
In the previous cycle his highest scoring team was like top 200 and there were maybe 10 teams tops that even brought him, most of them way lower than 200.
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>>585688865
there's like 6 awakeners that are viable in top level pdive
what you're describing isn't at all him being "carried by arc2 rules" even without the 50% buff
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>>585689404
He benefits massively from keyflare rouse, his dimensional image and to an extent his soulforge. The X-cost feels really weak outside of astral reign, without even taking into account the lost STR multiplier on the 2 cost.
Again, try playing him when he's not enhanced and you'll see for yourself.
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>>585689917
sure i never said he isn't weaker that way, but at lv90 he's so broken that he still happens to be one of the strongest awakeners in the game, there's no changing that
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>>585686031
Take a break anon, there's no point in getting burnt out
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>>585684920
>>585685035
>>585685110
Looks solid. Was hoping for buffs to some of the weaker sets though, like re-evolution or returnal line.
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counterbros?
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>>585698594
still dead
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>>585698594
>and then, Wanda laughed
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coventant buffs tomorrow!
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>>585706236
I hope they give us more overall Realm Mastery and better unique covenant buffs. They really need to grt more creative with them, instead of just another +X to Y stat.
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Happy dtide day
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>>585706236
I think only returnal line is truly bad, revo is a dumb set but the six piece is obviously really good sometimes

it's really the arc2 sets that are questionable because they're so narrow, wonder how they can adjust SweetSlug to be less ultra+aequor locked without making it insane.
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>>585714269
organic form exists
also those arc2 sets are completely meant to be locked to mixed realms, they're not bad sets at all they just don't have users
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>>585714269
I think Sweet slug is very very strong, especially for shielders, if you remember to utilize it.
I know that I'll forget about it in runs so I didn't bother making one.
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>>585714269
I like photosynthesis on Castor but it's a bit annoying because I'm not always playing him in caro. And these sets lost a bit of value after bonding.
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>>585714969
i build one for vortice back when her exalt damage was the relevant part of her kit, now it's collecting dust
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>>585714764
Now that I think about it, the mixed realm covenants should see a bit more use once the new relic sets drop.
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>>585713967
my "dtide day" is towards the end of the second week
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Morinight
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I've neglected the shit out of my covenants and I should really take some time to work on them
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>>585738895
I've stopped trying to minmax mine, it's too annoying. Max roll death res on my dps set? I'll take it. Random support stat on my keyflare set? Good enough.
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>>585741551
This.
Except the dps is Sanga, and instead of saying "good enough" I reroll for keyflare.
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>>585741551
i mean that's just correct. the gap between 5/5/5 covs and 8/8/8 covs on a DPS is like 16 crit damage and you'd have to pay thousands of pens to get there. you're getting 5% more DPS dumping unreal amounts of resources in.
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>>585741551
I just go for two relevant stats at 7+
Rerolling with 2 locked stats is just asking to go through months worth of pens in a minute
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>>585750470
I mean at a certain point its better to make another good enough set and bind it
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Vivian buffs doko
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vivan buff where?!?!?!!!!!!!!!
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Why is this game balance so bad when devs are willing to throw out buffs every few patches?
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>>585764026
>>585768135
4/5 of the 500 scores use vivian so idk why she'd need buffs. i'd like cauldron and rouse to be playable while asleep but that's about it.
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Morimorning
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>>585771852
wave 1 doesnt count
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>>585771852
It's pretty funny how Kath continues to being a W1 merchant even after dtide massive changes. Her minimum investment was just raised to AA instead of E3.
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>>585784357
>minimum investment
in the whale playground sure
if you're just going for 450 then E3 is still good enough
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bump
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>>585784357
Devs are absolutely terrified of making stall viable in madness level
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>>585794014
stalling for 100 turns is bad
rewinding for 100 hours is good
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>>585794578
but y tho
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>>585794624
light's favourite is gramona and you need to suffer like she does through rewinds
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>>585769656
>Why is this game balance so bad when devs are willing to throw out buffs every few patches?
Precisely because they throw out these sorts of balance changes all willy-nilly. Like Riot, and any other live service bullshit.

Mechanics change a lot, and a lot of other parts of the game were built under the assumption that those mechanics would stay the same, but they didn't. So what you end up with is a frankenstein of a clock with a revolving door of gears being hashed in and out based on whoever complained the loudest that day.

Games tend to look better when they're allowed to sit out in the sun, where the players can pick around its insides for a while after the initial wave of hype and doom.

Of course it's a gacha game, so that's easier said than done. If this was a one-and-done sale, balance changes wouldn't be as fast and drastic, considering that the sale's already been made.

And new content could've been shipped out and packaged together in large batches of DLC that would be better tested and planned, since the deadlines wouldn't be as tight, if they even existed at all.

I want to go back.
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>>585796404
>I want to go back.

with that spacing you should
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>>585795373
ludonarrative kino.....
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>>585796404
There's no going back. The future of the game's industry will be everyone building their own games on the fly with a few prompts and companies providing stuff like server infrastructure that an individual person wouldn't be able to handle.
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>Our servers serve Keepers from every region at once, so many actions feel sluggish to some of you. We plan to gradually change this so that an action first shows its result as if everything went through, and only corrects it afterwards if the server data disagrees. Most of the time this should make the interface feel noticeably faster. But this change runs very deep, so it will take longer than the other items to roll out step by step. Today is just a preview.
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>>585797491
the best news
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I HATE EMERGENCY CONTACT ENEMIES
I HATE EMERGENCY CONTACT ENEMIES
I HATE EMERGENCY CONTACT ENEMIES
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>>585798507
not a problem for Vortice/Saya :)
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>>585771852
make her anger buff last until used
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>>585803285
I have no idea why this is not the case by default. But on other hand that means you can actually wait for good card combo to play and we can't have that.
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"Wtf bros our game is dying!"
>2 months later
"We're gonna live forever!"
>2 months later
"Wtf bros our game is dying!"
>2 months later
"We're gonna live forever!"
Just how much Death Resistance does this stupid game even has?!
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>>585803569
I'm still half convinced that arc 3 isn't real
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>Light has comitted to clearing Hard mode with the 4 starter awakeners to prove that BIAV plays their own game
Pretty based, not gonna lie.
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>>585804692
All 4 starters+Gramona are in a good spot right now in Arc 2 (except maybe Lotan, but she still has a niche). Remove soulforge and they're fucked though.
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>>585805814
people keep saying this but is it really that hard to imagine that they'll just replace soulforge with some new passives?
i know people like to doompost but i honestly doubt they'd just remove SF and leave half the roster unusable, would make no sense
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>>585806148
It took them half a year last time to add soulforge for everyone and it massively effected characters' playability.
I have no doubt that new passives will bring some characters back from the dead, but I'm also sure that some characters will get fucked.
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>>585803426
>good card combo
lol every card is good to play in anger. it's sixty ligma and sixty temp CR for 1. permanent anger is just use a big cauldron at the start of the boss fight and vivian's cards are twice as good forever.

>>585804692
i mean it's impossible. wouldn't mind if lotan non-cheese dps got buffed though it's pretty cucked by design.
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>>585806148
Right, I assume something new will be there and partially scramble the meta and we’ll have a few weeks of rebuilding units. And we know there will still be modes with Arc 2 rules.
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>>585804692
madness clear where?
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>>585806148
he hasn't meaningfully buffed Wanda, Daffodil, Sorel, and Doresain for a year+ now despite everyone knowing they suck

not hard for me to imagine another eight limiteds joining them in the permanent toilet
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>>585806148
I expect them to split the SF talent into 2 parts: stats(+keyflare rouse bonus) and the unique passive effect per character. The passive can become a baseline talent while only the extra stats(+keyflare rouse bonus) remain in the soulforge talent. Then the arc 3 talent will just be stats again but instead of keyflare bonus, it can be an improvement to whatever arc 3 mechanic. This makes the most sense to me and requires the least amount of dev time.
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>>585808527
Doresain's buff was objectively very meaningful, just wasn't enough to make him viable. 50% overkill splash is a really strong effect.
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>>585808880
he's being used this dtide tho
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>>585808527
They're not live yet, but the changes to arc 2 counter rules will help them quite a bit. Wanda's 3-cost might actually deal meaningful damage with the right setup. Also, Doresain (and others with on-kill effects like Daff) will get kill credit when attacking things with corrosion stacks. If they want to buff other old limiteds, they'll have to do it incrementally to avoid breaking the meta again.
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>>585809290
yep it's caro ring, his portrait is really strong and he hard counters the z4 boss
gonna be honest, I have no idea how he survives the elites though
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>>585809457
and lets not forget the singularity annihilation buff which makes Wanda+Arachne a legit strong duo
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I never see them mention it when they’re talking about fixing awakeners but I really want Erica buffs
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>>585813362
Many are saying this. And by many I mean like 1.5 people who still using Erica. Not the popular pick. At least she is wife material.
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>>585813362
she's a keyflare enlighten unit with very good stats and weak+vuln on her exalt. but now that the 10-team meta is dead this isn't the sales pitch it once was.
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>>585814069
the 10 team meta has literally been back for like a month
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>>585813752
She’s got the best design out of the SSR welfares but gets less usage than Aigis and Aurita, it’s not fair bros
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>>585814261
show your 525 10 team meta
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>>585815721
>it’s not fair bros
I mean anon already said that she is good KeyF bot. The issue that all two character who could work well with Erica's STR/Alert gains want someone who would rather overcap shields. And ofc her cards are dirt cheap but major issue they also do fuck all and there is ultra-leap problem. Also on top of really good designs. It's funny actually because Tinct another support character that doesn't get a lot of use, despite her kit being quite good is also ultra. Coincidence? Idk really. Ha-ha Ultra bad joke is no longer funny....
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>>585815721
I think she's pretty good with Castor but there's just better choice if I'm doing a 5 teams clear.
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>>585815742
Why does 525 matter? Clearing S with 10 teams is roughly equivalent to old 425 and gives the final silver rewards.
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W3 was immensely fun, really enjoyed the fight. Hope we can get more fun gimmicks like that
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>zero keyflare on my pontos and gdoll covs
>set 4 and 5 aliemus regen mainstat
wow....... old me was a retard
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>>585804692
he went and doned it
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>>585826395
Doesn't GDoll still want aliemus? Pontos keyflare doesn't matter because gaunts don't count as command cards therefore don't generate keyflare.
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>>585826535
>Ogier last to 90
that's kind of weird because he's arguably the highest priority to 90 from the starters
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>>585827289
yeah but it'd be gay otherwise
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>>585827074
i'm still playing pontos' 2 cost a dozen times per fight, GDoll gets her ligma from her wheels and keyflare is very good on her because her 3 cost and 2 cost are so expensive.
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>>585827074
> Doesn't GDoll still want aliemus?
Not really. You'd use two Aliemus wheels on her most of the time, so between the Aliemus recharge from the wheels and her innate stats, you'd already be at the soft cap (~25). It's much better to focus on Keyflare on her cov.
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>>585826535
>100% covenant for Ramona
No favoritism here at all
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>>585826535
Ogier, the least loved child…
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>>585826535
>>585827289
>>585834760
How dare he
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>>585838971
Lel this is like the third or fourth time he’s confirmed Dorebuffs, he must be sick of being asked
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>>585838971
Going to be +50% base damage again. Still trash.
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>>585838971
I wonder if they'll also touch up his posse so the wording doesn't make it look like it's bugged.
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>>585838971
>Definitely getting buffs (mentioned by Light)
Doresain
Wanda
Pollux
>Probably getting buffs
Sorel
Daff
Liz
Jenkin
Pandia
>Maybe getting buffs
Corpo
Kath
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>>585854491
isn't Jenkin pretty decent?
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>>585854491
Isn't it sad, Erica? ;_;
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>>585854491
kath and corpo are ruined characters because their AAs make them block 50% and 100% more respectively meaning their non-AA lblock will never get buffed. of all the dumb decisions in the past year this was their dumbest.
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>>585860968
>non-AA lblock will never get buffed
They could just buff both the non- and AA.
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>>585863535
Or shuffle part of the AA effect to the normal one and replace it with a new AA effect(didn't they do exactly that with doorstain?) Plenty of ways really.
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Sincerely this makes me more mad than anything else in the game. why the fuck would you do this?
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>>585797491
Rollback for Morimens confirmed?
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>>585864336
"you" here being light ofc.
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>>585864336
first gacha?
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Fortress!
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Temporary Barrier!
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>>585864336
I don't get it
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>>585860968
Kath doesn't block more on AA (except from 10 levels). But she does 36% more damage with it.
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>>585880997 (me)
She gets 150% final damage increase at Fiamma 3 before AA. This becomes 240% after AA. So 36% increase.
Easily tested by borrowing AA Kath and compare the damage before and after rouse.
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Dead
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Buying emergency gnosis
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>>585844424
Pretty sure this is also third Doresain "fix".
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>>585876251
he thinks the AA is too big of a buff to pilot shielding
I'm not so sure myself because I don't know how it stacks with the E2 and getting an extra 10-15% DEF per pilot doesn't seem THAT insane to me
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>>585897947
It's not too insane but still pretty significant (lv90 no shield gen buff).
Befroe rouse with 12 tentacles.
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After rouse
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>>585900372
>>585900418
oh so it's straight up a x1.5 multiplier, that's pretty good
still, while the increase for the individual card seems pretty large, I'm not sure how impactful it is for your overall survivability throughout a run
I guess I can check some non AA Corpo runs and just halve their pilot shielding to figure out how much they would've gotten with AA
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>On top of Likes, there's now a Comment feature! Only Keepers who follow each other can leave comments on each other's pages. Either side can delete a comment, and each Keeper can post 1 comment per day.
we moribook now
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>>585901561
I'm not exactly a discard player, but her AA makes her 2 cost infinitely better.
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>we can customize profile page with stickers now
cant wait for the N sticker swastika
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>>585902195
oh yeah definitely, the extra pilot is huge
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>>585907045
non-AA will play an ominous semaphore and block for 80 (and this is a high estimate). AA will play ominous semaphore and block for 240.
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>>585911153
understandable but naive
the game balance is always going to be measured around its hardest content, since that's what hardcore players enjoy
players who don't really care about challenging content will thus not really care about balance either
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>>585911153
Makes sense, but something about the gachabrain goes into full seething mode whenever you add a "for dick measuring only" difficulty level. They can't stand the idea of SS being the standard and Dissolution an extra treat for maxed out whales.
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>>585911153
I think SSS was enough. Dissolution is a bit overkill and puts a lot of pressure even on skilled whales who want to prove they can top the leaderboards. SSS is still incredibly hard while allowing for more team variety.
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>>585912290
The existence of the last difficulty is good, it just shouldn't be part of any balance/rewards calculation, and exist specifically as a leviathan playground for them to dick measure.
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>>585894283
Just one more buff bro I swear just one more
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wanted to use vivian on two teams this tide (Thais Pickman Doresain, Mouchette Saya Aigis). guys i think she is actually good.
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>>585918661
She is, she’s just hard to pilot
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anyone keeping track of how many times we've gotten the 1k silver so far?
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>>585924848
I have four of the letters in my inbox, which is roughly what I remember.
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>>585925472
the mail expires in 14 days and the first time we got 1000 silver was 17 days ago so it's at least 5 times
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Bump
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it's fine that AAs are strong
characters with a weak AA feel hopeless, like you'd never be able to make them good no matter what you do
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awakener buff news next week!
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>>585947686
gLotan value, her OE here would deal at least 15% of the boss HP
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>>585948339
Honestly, an AA Glotan in a PCaro, after spending a some time setting up, could probably deal around 5–8M damage with OE. With her portrait, she should outright delete him in another turn.
I've been watching her replays, and her exalt can deal stupid amount of damage thanks to the retard amount of damage the highest difficulty boss do.
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>>585947686
Fat fuck
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>>585948339
yeah this was an AA glotan setup with the full 3 turns of deadly duels. she hit for 15 million here.
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When does the GTulu marketing start?
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>>585952808
> Watched the replay
> 1123% DR
Damn....
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Morinight
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>>585958839
sleep tight moribwo
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>>585953510
his preorder should start when Vivian's ends at the earliest
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Wow you guys weren’t kidding about Dore vs wave 4
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>>585966238
as long as you manage to beat the elites then the boss is basically free
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death resist
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bros i ran out of pens and bought the pen bundle

i'm telling myself it'll be the last time but will it???
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I can no longer remember the last time I won against a Pollux team.
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>>585988417
The one the give you daily pen?
I've been slacking off so I accumulate a lot of pens.
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>>585941014
Vivian's design and gameplay just hits different. I love how she looks completely unfazed while sitting calmly and reading her book and fucking sleep right in the middle of a fight
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>>585988417
it's pretty decent for levels too
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>>585993402
try playing him and you'll also learn how to play against him
things that mess with his game plan are:
>mass dispel (nobleman, Tinct, Casiah)
>discard (Clem, Goliath/Tulu posse)
>high pressure from faster teams like Liz teams for example
>positioning (tank in the second/fourth slot forces most of his sin generation to target the tank which you can then clear off with a single target dispel)
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news soon!!
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no news I need xussy copies
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today's nyews
you can now marry your favorite awaker
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>>586016887
do NOT marry the aurita
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>>586016887
holy SOVL
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lol
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>>586016887
only good news so far
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Who will (You) marry, /mori/?
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I don't have a single awakener at Affection 20 and I heard that it's a shitty grind so idk
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>>586018569 (me)
Just checked.... interesting...
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>>586018737
helot catena is for marriage
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>>586017708
>>586017293
>>586016887
leave it to the discord creatures to already be complaining it might be pRoBleMaTic to get a ring from "underage characters" lmao
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>>586018392
no one at 20 yet but my highest affinity character and likely first to 20 will be the most loyal of knights, Ogier
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>>586016887
polygamy status??
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>>586019212
confirmed
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more details about affinity gain changes/token acquisition changes.
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>>586018569
They're speeding up the affinity grind too
>- Companionship: you can now spend 3 Reality Verge on the home screen to triple the Affinity earned there for 24 hours. When you don't need Reality Verge, this is a way to speed up Affinity!
>- SR Wheels: the SR Wheel of Destiny obtained from an Awakener's event now has an exclusive effect, "+25% Affinity gain for that Awakener," and the bonus is doubled while that event is open.
>- Shared Affinity: at the end of a stage, every Awakener gains additional Affinity equal to 50% of the total Affinity the team earned in that stage.
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>>586020356
>>586020315
the 3 reality vergs are the best part, you can just spend those and the passive affinity is pretty nice without having to do shit
i'm always overcapping them anyway
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>>586020576
yes this basically reads triple affinity gain for accounts that don't need verges anymore

which is kinda weird but whatever, lol at everyone who grinded affinity before this change
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>>586018392
canon wife (Kath)
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Is it cheating to marry someone and their Genesis?
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license for mainland chyna release was granted today
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>borrow a whale GOgier
>cursed rabbit instead of TTB
Why are whales like this, every fight is taking twice as long now
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>>586022960
pick ephemeral eternity posse
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>>586018392
My lovely wife Leigh, of course! I haven't had the time to grind out her affinity to 20, but now I feel much more motivated to do so, even before they buff affinity gains.
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>>586027376
your bonded coventant bwo..
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>>586022343
So do all the ghouls and stuff count as spooky skellies?
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>>586027614
yeah that's the reason it hasn't released til now
we'll see if their version has different art or if they just bit the bullet and released as an 18+ game there
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>>586020356
>you can now spend 3 Reality Verge on the home screen to triple the Affinity earned there for 24 hours.
Putting Clem into the 24 hour accelerated loving machine!
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>>586027376
wait for the buff, it's so much faster. literally 3x affinity gain (every awakener gets their current amount plus 50% of the total)
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>>586027572
Oh yeah, that screencap was taken before we got bonded covenants. She has this one right now.
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>>586027969
based!
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>>586018392
Like Light, it looks like I’ll be marrying Castor first
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>>586018981
I mean there's reproduction frenzy...
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>>586016887
>put the Vow Ring on Aigis' finger
>she starts producing babies like crazy
Ludokino...
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How many madness 1F train runs do I need for Affinity 20?
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>>586020783
How much do you get from passively being on the home screen anyways?
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>3 verges for a 24 hour home screen affinity buff
>can get 3 verges per day if you have the BP
Clever...
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>>586036958
wedding rings aint cheap
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>>586036454
idk i read it wrong, I thought it was all gains tripled

but affinity gain in general is tripled otherwise anyways, if the wording is accurate each awakener gets 50% of the total in addition to what they're getting now which means you're in total getting 300% of what you were before
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BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY
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what's the correct way
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>>586042218
I always leave the heals for last
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>>586039059
But mine's already +12...
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>>586042218
left
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>>586036358
dunno but keep in mind you also need a bunch of tokens of concord which are not trivial to get
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>>586048953
They’re going to be handing out more from events, logins and the shops
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>>586048953
When they introduced this system, they gave out enough tokens to reach affinity 20 with one character, no? That's all I need if that's the case.
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>>585675603
its pretty good actually
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just backed out of a 5hr run ama
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>>586063795
Which stage?
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>>586063940
w5m
was fun but the run was too ambitious
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>>586064356
I wouldn't do w5 without borrowing Gogier. He's ass to play but the stage goes by so fast with him.
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>>586063795
it's okay, just treat it as a learning experience
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>>586067267
>GOgier without chaos ring
sounds a lot more rough than borrowing a whale Vortice or something
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mmmorinight
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>>586072989
Just pick draw relics and posses
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>>586072989
No Gogier portrait btw.
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>>586082501
not saying it's impossible just... difficult
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>>586082501
where vivian? where vivian buff???
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>>586082501
AA ryker i god i kneel
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>>586088134
What the fuck does Ryker's AA even do?
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>>586087220
right here bro. you're welcome.
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>>586094168
not as good as arachne. shit support
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So doomers got btfo'd again?
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JP will save Doresain.
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Bros, why is the game so hard now? I was a 425 whale but I can't even do SSS now
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>>586105141
dev keep increasing stat caps for awakeners and enemy stats to match. +10 levels, +10 levels again for standards, aa upgrades, bonded covenants, arc 3 talents in the future. characters just cant stay maxed in this game. endless resource dump.
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>>586105141
i don't have any AAs and don't find SSS too bad
vortice
borrowed gogier
poison
24
random last team
pretty much all i use
vortice and gogier can usually clear dissolution
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>>586105141
You need to choose how many clear you're going to do and redo all your team. Each SSS will need a lot more investment than old A5.
I did 500 once and now I'm back to doing 450.
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>>586105141
The game has gotten much easier but it is balanced around emergency gnosis now.
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Post your rank sister. I can only do Mickey Mouse mode as Flares often says
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>>586116034
i've been slacking...
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>>586090287
better dice rolls and an additional relic upgrade on rouse letting you have 3 upgraded relics
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>>586105141
old 425 is 10 runs of S now, not SSS
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>>586114580
post-mouchette the only challenge in old tide came from either not owning any units or being a newfriend with no soulforge levels.

wave3 bosses in old tide had like 400,000 hp. hilarious that you guys had SF10 units and were flexing your 425 clears. losers.
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>>586116034
I'm staying 450 until the end of the year to recuperate from the cancer of last difficulty in last rotation and playing CZN and a bunch of other games.
Maybe they'll inflate player power until the last difficulty is fun again.
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>>586120804
425 would still be a challenge for most players today
ofc the challenge was having 10 semi-built teams which you were either an out of touch whale or a very long time f2p player, or somewhere in-between + decent at the game
they didn't really start giving out SF like candy until a few patches ago with the taboo quests
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News soon... probably
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2 years of whaling on this shit and I still run out...
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czn better news kek
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myriam wheel free reset!
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>>586128852
Nice
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>>586126109 (me)
Of course the one day I decided to post this was the day with no news
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czn has news kek
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>>586129373
the news is that tomorrow starts the balance news!
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>>586129373
2k silver is pretty big news if you ask me
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>>586129972
got agr*ppa so its fake news
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>>586130123
Agrippa is one of my favorite designs in the game. Creative spider motif, delicious tummy, pupula duplex (triplex?) kino.
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where is the "agrippa ma cocka" anon when you need him...
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>>586136692
he took agrippa to dissolution d-tide and was never heard from again..
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>>586127187
yeah so sad for the 2 year player who ran out of reds to level6 their pandia's Defend or whatever.
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>>586136692
Agrippa’d too hard…
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can we expect the full roster reruns during anni?
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After all this time, Karen finally became the poison unit of choice...

>>586140579
Maybe, it's usually a shitty rerun though, with mixed banner between character and WoD
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>>586140862
her marvelous cuisine actually scales pretty good, the 200% increase it scales up to is a totally unique multiplier and she gets nine plays per OE

and ofc you get loads of free arithmetica too, kind of sad for nymphea to get done this dirty
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DR proc
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>>586140862
I'm more interested in why Caraboo is in poison comps. just to deal with mobs?
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>>586153547
caraboo is just one of the best surival units
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>>586153547
yes, to deal with mobs and block for 1000 and scale your hp by 1500, also prop caro is just broken and makes all your poison exalts apply 60% more poison
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>>586153547
Caraboo is the strongest stall character in game, ramp/shield/healing and a bunch of random utility in 1 character. Even has a strong nuke for trash clearing. If her kit was on a chaos unit I'd probably shove her into every team
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>>586153754
>>586154813
>>586157039
Not to mention poison cap scales with your max hp for some stupid reason....
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>>586164417
i dont think that comp is reaching the cap anyway but yeah
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our daughter is incredible...
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>>586164769
Just raising the bar of the 3000% hp soft cap is pretty significant enough imo.
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>>586166079
Who the fuck gave her sugar?
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>>586168704
interesting. implies two weeks of dead time between vivian banner and 2.7. Possible they launch a kaleido early or something.
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>>586170857
last anni there was also a 2 week gap before GMurphy's banner
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balance news tomorrow!!
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50% DR
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>>586181464
I'm wondering if they'll ever give the early standard awakeners any stat buffs. Leigh is an obvious choice for that, but there's also Celeste, Nymph, Tinct, and Aurita with some of the lowest overall stats in the entire roster. I think that the most recent awakener to have stats even in the same ballpark was Saya.
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>>586189417
They did You just need 300 standard pulls for it
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>>586189417
stats other than CON don't really matter
Leigh and Celeste have very strong kits already so I'm not sure they'd need the extra stats
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>>586189417
leigh is already being overbuffed with the scar change, please give it a rest
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>>586189417
Stats are assigned based on lore. Leigh is frail as paper and never getting any stat buffs.
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>>586192851
>frail as paper
Man, her part-time job in is being the stuffing inside a punching bag at the Mythag gym.
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>>586189518
the bonus stats are still based on base stats thoughbeit
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Traphase hours
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>>586213159
thanks for reminding me
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Arcade done
P-dive done
Trapphase done
D-Zone done

I guess I will continue story hard mode.
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Bump
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>>586228861
Which chapter are you on in Hard mode? I still need to finish arc 2 ch 4 Hard.
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did those gnostic research posse changes go live?
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>>586232378
nah most changes light talked about are for 2.7
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>>586232332
Chapter 5 on the last boss. I need to get lucky with the relics.
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Will you guys try Miresi when it is out?
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>>586235375
hadn't heard of it, is it genshin slop?
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>>586235375
Had not even heard of it, but it looks like another one body type ecchi game like nikke from a glance. Which is boring as hell, if everyone's tits are giant then no one's tits are giant. Give me some fucking variety.
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>>586234817
I only ever fought that boss once in my original run through that chapter, so I barely remember the mechanics, but given it's from ch 5 it was probably obnoxious. Good luck, anon!
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>>586235375
I might only play Silver Palace when it releases
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>>586236483
Thanks!
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>>586236206
>if everyone's tits are giant then no one's tits are giant
is that how the incredibles line went
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Buffs doko?
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>>586244791
two more weeks
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did my traphase quest AND had fun!
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>>586246209
draft is fun because less tryharding
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news!!
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>>586249648
And new Covenants!
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>>586249648
3 new covs
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>>586249783
>living ocean
vivian buffs?!
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>>586249793
>>586249783
so instead of weakness they gave Vivian a covenant with STR drain
ill take it
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and doom recurring is literally tailor-made for mouch lmao
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>>586249793
2 arith for -16 str drain is not saving vivian
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>>586249783
>>586249793
I know Pursuit and Corrosion, but wtf is Resonance?
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>>586249783
>>586249793
>Resonance covenant
Why dies Xu get a covenant set all to herself?
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>>586250004
that's Xu's effect after playng 3 other cards
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>>586249954 (Me)
and arachne gets another +50% dmg amp, in case she needed more i guess
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>>586250023
>>586250032
They're likely going to introduce more units with the effect. We already have not!Ultra with GOgier so this'll probably be the inverse lmao
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>>586249998
yeah i guess that part is kinda meh, castor might be able to stack some decent STR down on a burst turn tho, assuming it's not turn unique
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>>586249783
>>586249793
Living Ocean is trash.
Doom Recurring is made for Mouchette with another multiplicative base dmg buff.
Moonmaking is good on the only resonance character in the game.
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>>586250198 (me)
im retarded, just saw it is indeed turn unique..
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>>586250198
>assuming it's not turn unique
I have bad news, anon...
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>>586249648
more sayanga buffs
we cant stop winning
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Light has implied they'll start giving old posses character-specific effects. Those changes will probably be considered part of the buffs given to standards. Hopefully this won't force certain awakeners to be permanently attached to their posses like with Vortice and other recent awakeners.
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>>586251215
>force certain awakeners to be permanently attached to their posses
this wont be a worry if you exclusively use pChaos awakeners, trust the plan
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>light:corrosion was a mistake, we regret doing it
>also light:here have a set that buffs corrosion
???????
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>>586251794
corrosion is perfectly fine as a mechanic tho
he only said that saya's corrosion was a mistake since it's 0 cost and cant be applied multiple times in a row
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>>586250257
doom recurring is really bad. Use this AI slop mouchette dmg calculator to find out how bad: https://formulas.moriformulas.workers.dev/mouchette/
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>>586251215
idk if this is a meta viability thing, more like a larp thing like how liz players get to use liz posse
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>>586251794
you wouldn't use the corrosion set on Saya over dream, Castor doesn't want crit rate, GOgier doesn't apply fixed corrosion
this is just a Vivian set for now and whatever future corrosion character of course but I doubt they'd care about crit rate
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>>586251929
>1k permanent strength
I think this is skewing the results. Do Mouchette teams even generate strength aside from some relics?
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>no re-evolution buff
surprising
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>>586251929
No dmg amp, no arachne buff, no 5 other base damage relics.
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Unstained Chronicle being 24% CON at all times sounds fun. Especially with the upcoming buff to overall healing with the changes to bottomless scar.
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>>586251794
Corrosion is fine, Saya's 0 cost was a mistake
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>>586253013
I added dmg amp and base dmg and even with really favorable assumptions it's much worse than crimson pulse

beats paradox quite often though, paradox really sucks with arachne as it turns out

https://formulas.moriformulas.workers.dev/mouchette/
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>>586253098
dont mind the ponytail anymore but at first it was the straw that broke the camel of overdesign's back
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>>586256405
I'm a big fan of the Mythag uniform in general, but what's wrong with sidetails? The only part I don't really like is the monocle.
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>>586253098
eh it's still only good on doll most likely, going from 15 to 25hp heals isn't that crazy
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>>586258198
>The only part I don't really like is the monocle.
Same
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>>586253098
I think it's quite good now, real contender on Ryker, Arachne, Goliath/Tulu, Nautila, Vivian, and even Vortice. I just don't know how to think about it in comparison with BGS.
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I avoided Ryker because I hate furries, but I'm starting to think he's really good and fun to have in team... Does he need any enlightens? Might give in and get him when there's an opportunity
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>>586259991
his E1 is good, but other than that most of his value is just octahedron dice which doesn't even scale with his stats it scales with your keeper level. He's totally usable at E0 even though E1 is something you'd want eventually. that's about it though his other Es are pretty skippable.
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>>586259991
not a fan of furries either but Ryker is a real bro
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>>586255341
i guess the upside is the DR stat which is universally good but for pure dmg yeah it's more of an arachne cov
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>>586266916
I'm an idiot, I forgot to rouse mouchette. Doom Recurring is still worse than crimson pulse even on 500 dmg amp and 100 base DMG from relics and 0 permstr, but it's only worse by 4% or so. ofc it gets smashed by april praise.
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Friendly reminder to buy your Prototype Horizon and Timeloop Copy before the Sediment Exchange resets tomorrow.
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>>586277002
Do people not buy them immediately on the 1st of the month?
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>>586279452
not everyone logs in every day and sometimes people simply forget
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Hey, bros, I was looking through my Morimens folder and this pic reminded how much I love Leigh. She's just fucking lovely. That is all.
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>>586281404
i was gonna say hope she gets some nice buffs but she'd probably enjoy getting nerfed
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>>586281619
Some believe that the changes to Bottomless Scar are enough buffs for her in terms of healing, and I'm inclined to agree. Her healing is already great among the cast for being one of the only sources of "heal X% of lost hp," and her strength gain is pretty incredible with her AA. But yes, her being completely neglected in the upcoming batch of buffs might just turn her on instead, so it's a bit of a tossup.

But now that I'm thinking about future additions and shit, if BIVA ever implements a training/simulation system to test out teams and builds, I sincerely hope that Leigh is the designated punching bag.
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>>586282196
I love how simple but impactful her design is. The flowers transitioning to organs is perfect Morimens style.
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>>586284085
Agreed. She appears disheveled, vulnerable, and halfway in a state of undress, but then you see the heaps of flesh sloughing off of her arm and her big smile and you just know she a freak. Delve into her past a bit and you find out that she used to be the daughter of a noble family, hidden away by her parents when she was infected with a supernatural taste for human blood. She's completely thrown away any and all dignity of her former status in favor of whatever degeneracy she currently seeks. But she will still sing for (You) in the way she was taught as a socialite, because she loves (You) and wants to share more of herself with (You).

Fuck I love this bitch.
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Happy Halloween, /mori/. I work weekends, so I won't be doing shit tonight, but at least I can log in for the monthly resets during my shift.
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>>586286972
happy halloween morifren
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too fast
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alright, try to survive until news...
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BOO!
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Good morinight, I'm going to dream of morinews
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morimorning
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morisunday
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>>586249648
>chrysalis buff
Sanga will be eating good
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jenkin? more like jenkem!
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Bump
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Don't forget to buy your usual stuff from monthly reset!
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Wheel buffs!!
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>>586347310
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>>586347394
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>>586347310
>>586347394
holy, some really really good buffs
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>>586347310
sangachads...
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>>586347310
more wheel stat inflation will save morimens thanks light
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>>586347310
>>586347394
Standard damage characters still need an 10x damage buff to be relevant.
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>>586348582
do they? uvhash is already meta at +12, and this just made him even better
also liz is looking to be actually pretty good after buffs
jenkin is still doomed tho
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>>586348664
>jenkin is still doomed tho
She's still one of the best in the game at using strength stacks specifically because she hits so many times. And doesn't her 1-cost directly increase base damage of her cards? An extra 50% base damage on top of that on a burst turn sounds good to me. Unless I still don't know how base damage buffs work, in which case you can ignore me.
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>>586349138
she's great for earlier stages, i was talking about late endgame
the base dmg gains are flat and doesn't really scale fast enough
if you have a bajillion STR and arith she can do real dmg tho, it's just that you'd probably run sorel in that scenario
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>>586249783
Did Xu really need a buff?
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>>586350663
its ok on her
something tells me gtulu will have resonance since its an ali regen cov
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>>586349138
Her numbers are plain bad. Low base damage and low strength scaling.
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>>586352452
her str scaling is pretty good but takes too much arith sadly
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Bloody feast and rat wheel buffs seems interesting, maybe I'll need to go back to wheel banner.
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>>586353036
i never left
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>>586348664
>uvhash is already meta at +12
not really
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>>586355014
he's one of the few dps who can scale into the dmg required for dissolution so imo that alone makes him meta
him being way better on caro ring doesnt invalidate this just like gogi
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>>586355129
yes he can scale very hard but he's much much slower than something like 24, not to mention that he's actively killing you
I think his posse is very likely to get a buff which could push him a bit more into relevancy
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>>586355410
i'd say it's somewhat similar to 24 but that comp has a lot more survival thanks to tawil and the posse spam, but people clear with him every dtide now and it's not even that expensive so he's mostly fine
and honestly compared to most other dps awakeners he's chilling
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>>586349138
>>586349546
she benefits both from str and base damage but mostly from the latter because Arachne exists and inflates the value of base damage
a couple cycles ago Angbak had a Jenkin clear where he basically 1shot a madness boss with a triple cast Swarm Impact that had 17 hits each for 170k dmg per instance
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>>586355734
What's the whole team comp for Uvhash? Him, Tawil, and who else?

>>586356104
Yeah, SUltra is really good for Jenkin.
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>>586355734
>but people clear with him every dtide now
1 person clears with him during non-caro ring, which is still impressive but he's using a +12 Thais
honestly the biggest thing holding Uvhash back imo is his reliance on scion embryos and Thais being the only awakener able to provide them
and using Thais on his team would mean you can't use her with GHelot...
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>>586356328
the core team is Uvhash/Thais/Leigh and you can't really replace any of them
last slot is flex and can be a variety of things but the top Uvhash player seems to prefer using GRamona in that slot
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>>586356480
meant for >>586356239
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>>586249793
>Living Ocean
Honestly they could have replaced Corrosion with something like STR down trigger and that would be an okay option for Pontos.
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>>586356480
Uvhash is very replaceable in that team.
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>>586357032
not with that crit rate stat on the 3 piece
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>>586357906
Hmmm. Swap it to crit damage instead?
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>>586358035
sure, though the buffed organic form might actually be pretty good on him and potentially better than dream of medicine
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>>586347394
Finally Pickman's wheel won't be as annoying to use anymore. Though I still think it should've had +handsize instead of one of the effects.

>>586347493
The R wheel change means you can now very easily complete a 3 set bonus for the very first fight by just matching the gold relic that was given to you. Sounds like a good strategy for zone 3. You can also go for a 6 set if you're crazy enough.
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czn mogs pfftahaha
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>>586358746
Honestly I'll probably throw on a crit R wheel on G Ogier for exploration since his portrait is damn near mandatory.
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I can at least kill the rat right? Right...?
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>>586358206
this buff doesn't change anything for him

strike/defend were already getting +2 aliemus with the old one because rounding up and his X was getting +2, which will be the same with the new version

the only difference is that his fully stacked E3 wheel gets 4 extra aliemus EoT now instead of 3
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>>586367147
ok what may have gotten buffed is organic form pontos + mannikin of oblivion because the 20% breakpoint means extra aliemus % can actually lead to 13 aliemus strike/defend and 11 aliemus X

still don't think this is good, but it's something at least
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>>586364345
Did you win?
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>bloody feast gives 50str on doresain devour now
i want it............
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>>586368637
and he hasn't even gotten his real buff yet
Doresain stonks soaring!
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>>586364345
they should either give fortress charges or reduce the damage reduction to 25%
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>>586368271
no chance even without fortress
>>586370113
yeah 25% or at least reduce it to 25% if its on consecutive turns but just make it 25%
weakness can get nerfed too it's only not as egregious because there isn't wheels that allow you apply weakness with every strike or skill
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>>586372783
>no chance even without fortress
I mean you could wipe everyone except Celeste and as long as she doesn't res Miryam next turn...
though she'd be guaranteed to draw a fortress anyway
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>>586376981
yeah the fortress draw and the white sails would hurt
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>>586370113
>>586372783
Yeah personally I'd prefer if fortress and weakness was 33% reduction, 50% is absurd for a game where dispel is pretty uncommon and the game in concept seemed to be built around not every team having it.
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How long is Castor's story? Doable in 1 hour?
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>>586380498
<5min if you skip, no battles
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>>586380932
I'll skip if it's too long but I want to play through it. Just never found the time. I'll see how far I can get in 1 hour and then skip the rest.
Thanks.
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>>586381101
You could always come back after skipping.
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wish i could split my 24s into 4 teams.....
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>>586390862
But the math just doesn't work out, Keeper. 24 divided by 4 equals 6, and we can only have 4 awakeners on each team!
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>>586391880
that emote always reminds me of a certain 24 incident
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>>586396993
Wait, which one? There are at least 2 dozen incidents.
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why is ultra weak?????????
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>>586398761
arachne powermogs all of them
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>>586398761
malebros... the women are taking over...
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>>586398761
Pretty much what >>586398943 said, and not just canonically. SUltra will probably go absolutely crazy when the second SUltra awakener is released. BIVA probably has no idea how to approach SUltra without breaking game balance (again).
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>>586398724
the one involving /mori/ and her skin event
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>>586399169
maybe not giving 500% dmg amp would be a good start
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>>586399169
I doubt they'll give another character 300%+ dmg amp and 100%+ command card final damage.
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>>586399251
>>586399494
Pretty sure Light has stated that we'll only be getting "advanced" realms from now on, so they kind of put themselves in a tough spot.
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>>586399232
Do not invoke that devil.
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awakener buffs tomorrow! (maybe)
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>>586406876
8 days left and 4 realms
awakeners might be the last 4 days
tomorrow maybe posse buffs and then 3k silver ig
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>>586412035 (me)
wait its 6 days left nvm
only 1k silver then
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>>586399169
can easily brick the kit with a fun drawback such as randomly stunning a teammate every card play
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>>586412504
If you don't put that awakener with GOgier and GLotan so that you can collect all possible self-inflicted debuffs, have you really played the game?
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>>586399668
I think they'll eventually give up on that plan. There's really nothing wrong with releasing classic realm characters.
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Okay Castor is the greatest bro in the world. Pollux better make up for what he did at the end there...
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>>586416176
Pollux is a good boy too, have faith
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i wanted to OE castor but he's so out of the meta...
i'll wait to see if there's buffs these next few days i guess
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>>586417590
>i wanted to OE castor but he's so out of the meta...
Is he? I don't know about dissolution but he's still strong on the other difficulties
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>>586418445
yeah even SSS, he's somewhat seen in w1/2 but only +12 with +12 pollux
mostly a pollux issue but it makes castor homeless by extension
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>>586412035
>>586412107
1 of the days could be dedicated to mechanics changes, maybe they'll address the strength buffs separately
or I can see them changing the damage formula to reduce the layers of multiplication so base damage effects aren't so dominant
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stable
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>>586421151
day 26 they turbonerf every dominant team by neutering base DMG

i'd laugh my ass off but it seems unlikely
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>>586422259
is that global only or jp too?
im curious to see how the game is gonna do in CN now that it released, tho idk if those numbers will be public
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>>586422260
Vortice/Saya is the strongest meta team and they don't care about base damage
it would just be a nerf to Arachne teams but probably needs to happen at some point otherwise damage will keep getting out of hand the more new sources of base damage they add
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Does anything besides enemy HP scale % damage/corrosion?
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Is this a bad time to start? I heard it was gonna shut down but got bought by some investment fund or some shit and they are making the game worse.

I did chapter 1 part 11 now and bought the 4.99 monthly thing. I was hoping for more challenging StS stuff but it seems pretty unbalanced with the SSRs I got for free, trivialising the content so far

I'm still really early in,so I wanna know if I should save myself some time if its going to have a shit endgame or shut down by the time I get there
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>>586424791
>I heard it was gonna shut down but got bought by some investment fund or some shit and they are making the game worse.
No? It was close to shutting down like a year ago but they recovered back then. It's still the same devs.

Anni is around the end of the month so this is a great time to start. They're going to be making a bunch of balance changes plus adding a new sort of ruleset for Year 3 content so the meta is going to be changing a lot but you can expect a lot of free rolls and good banners soon.
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>>586424327
Only E3 Saya's corrosion and propagation furnace corrosion scale with enemy HP. E3 Saya's corrosion scales with her wheel because it counts as fixed corrosion for whatever reason (even the HP% portion of it). HP% dmg doesn't scale with anything aside from enemy HP.

>>586424791
It's a great time to start because we're having anniversary in less than a month. The devs haven't change and the game isn't at risk for eos anytime soon. And the devs have promised to make the game single player if that ever happens.

Yes newer characters are not scaled properly for beginner content unfortunately but you should start getting challenged pretty soon (around chapter 5). And there's always the option to clear hard mode instead if you feel like you're blasting through stuff to easily.

Finally, this game's endgame mode is one of the best among gachas and incredibly difficult.
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>>586424791
The game isn't shutting down, don't worry about that.
There was a controversy maybe 2 months ago where an overhaul kind of fucked up the endgame. The devs have worked to fix it since then and make amends with the community so nobody's been mad anymore since weeks ago.
The actual endgame content in Morimens is the D-Zone. That's kind of the "real game" at least gameplay-wise so try to give that a shot before deciding if you like how the game plays or not. Low level story mode is pretty whatever and it's really mainly there for the story not the gameplay.
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>>586424791
I think you can jump straight to hard mode for story, so I'd do that until act 2, where difficulty ramps up significantly. Otherwise just enjoy the story for now and slowly build up resources, the game is heavily timegated on stuff like wheels/gnosis/skill upgrade mats/account xp.

The main gameplay fun is pushing dtide in the lategame, so you are incentivized to make multiple strong teams that will require a lot of different wheels.
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>>586425976
That's what I heard about
>>586426045
Good idea I didn't know I could do that.

OK thanks guys I'll carry on
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>>586424791
the endgame is excellent. the game has been powercrept to hell since arc1 was released so a lot of it will be trivial depending on your units. this game's not really a deckbuilder but there's plenty to get autistic about i promise you.
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I should use Caecus in traphase more often
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>Morimaintenance already
Shit I forgot about daylight savings
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>Maitenance already
Failed to 100% the event in time, it's over...
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>about to start playing Traphase
>under maintenace
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czn less maintenance kek
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>>586424791
Game is poorly balanced and the newer SSR characters deal 100 times the damage of the older characters. Endgame is shit right now but will be swapped to a new ruleset soon and could potentially be good.
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>>586435871
The funniest part is despite new characters doing 100x damage they are still shit in the highest difficulty d-tide compared to % damage
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>>586433824
Why is Saya associated with Traphase so often?
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>>586436450
Because everyone got a bunch of free Saya stickers
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Huh, Steam is redownloading the whole game? Or is this really a 12 GB update...?
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Vivian AA good?
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>>586436450
There's like five people here and the traphase anon likes Saya
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>>586446382
Just hard okay. You normally want to rouse your dps first so it's less impactful than it sounds.
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do newcutes even get the saya emotes? how can they even breathe?
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>11.6 GB update
What the fuck
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sludge cunny
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>>586456680
Giving Lily a tonguebath...
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Bump
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>>586435871
>looks inside
base lotan is one of the strongest meta carries
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>>586450964
>>586446330
most of it is unity repackaging
but looks like some dev left his account on the update by accident lole
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>>586465209
the dev account(s) in question
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>>586465309
Is this the rumored Morimens playtester
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>>586465623
actually looks like 2 different devs since the accounts are legit, one of them has 500 on dtide, the other 450
light mentioned having his devs actually play the game and spend their own money, mildly interesting

data is from august so both are lvl100 now, but one of them doesn't show up on the account lvl leaderboard for w.e reason
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Do we have a character inspired by the king in yellow yet?
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>>586456680
Saya...
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>>586466701
not really but it's one of the most expected ones and it's been somewhat teased
probably arc 3
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>>586436450
Her traphase stickers are cute and funny.
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>>586466701
Cassiah is considered a big reference to The King in Yellow, but nothing explicitly related, no.
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>>586466820
Hopefully it's a boy.. I've seen too many things try to make the king a girl...

Status on Nug and Yeb?
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>tulu rerun
>light teased things coming for him
not saying you should pull but im expecting him to be a relevant dps in arc3
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>>586467043
>light teased things coming for him
inb4 AA buffs
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>>586467043
Idk how would one go on to fix Tulu's kits
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>>586467043
>God King Tulu on anniversary was never a thing
>it was always going to be a massive baseline Tulu rework
Make it happen, BIVA
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>>586467043
AA will generate +50% more strength.
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>>586469336
>exalt is permanent tentacle dmg and str
>OE is temp tentacle dmg and str based on X% of permanent
there, Tulu is now strong
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>>586469336
by making tentacle dmg real ig
they're already buffing dominion and gathering by 25% final per stance switch
theoretically if lemurian isn't a thing in arc3, you could white stance every turn and stack final dmg, his OE then could become an actual dps exalt
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425 I'm officially pro gamer and flares is jealous of my card playing skill
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>>586470147
bar is 525 now kaly
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>>586470147
based, proud of you bwo
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news doko
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>>586469336
>4 cost either is now actually worth 4 or costs less
>3 cost is permanent instead of temp, or costs less and has bigger numbers
>exalt is fine actually
>all aftershock numbers buffed
>rouse totally reworked
Done.
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czn faster news kek
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>>586472769
Rouse is the best part about his kit since you actually have no reason to use 4 cost or three. Or any cards he has actually.
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>>586472769
exalt is not fine and scales terribly into the late game
when you're on turn 15 with 3k tentacle damage and 1k strength then the ~150 temp tent dmg/str does borderline nothing
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This is genuinely the only redeemable part of Tulu kit and the reason why he's used over Faros (and CON stat I guess)
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>>586479323
the crit is pretty nice
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>>586479323
50% more tickle is good?
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>>586481269
it's a separate multiplier so if tentacles ever start dealing damage it will be a very strong buff
though it's only an arc 2 effect and we're almost in arc 3 so...
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Lotan

Soulforge Aptitude

New: each "Strike" played by any Awakener increases Beast of Chaos' damage bonus by 200%.

Enlighten 3, Ancient Solitude

The generated "Strike" cards now cost 0 Arithmetica.

Absolute Axiom, Ancient Whalesong

New: "Defense" now costs 0 Arithmetica.
After playing "Defense": the next Blade of Defiance this turn takes effect twice the next Blade of Defiance and the next Tides of Hubris each take effect twice.


Alva

Soulforge Aptitude

New: Turn Unique, gain 25 Aliemus after playing Precision Slash.

Rouse, Outstanding Veteran

Damage per point of Shield: 2 3.

Combat Stance

New: this Command Card is not affected by Sealed.

Precision Slash

Damage per point of Shield: 2 3.

Enlighten 3, All for Justice

New: Endless Justice gains +20% Shield multiplier per card discarded.

Lily

Soulforge Aptitude

"Strike" Final DMG: 35% 100%, no longer doubled in Boss Battles.
Delayed HP recovery after being hit by an "Ultra" enemy: 20% 30%.

Absolute Axiom, Lily of No Desire

New: Undying Flower Upon Slime Shield multiplier +50%.

Rouse, Slime Convergence

Endure gained at turn start: 10% 15% of Max HP.
Target of the Poison applied when granting Shield: highest-HP enemy all enemies.

Strike to Protect

Poison trigger multiplier: 50%, 100% on Crit flat 100%, Crit no longer doubles it;
New: every 1% of Max HP worth of Endure consumed adds +0.5% to the Poison trigger multiplier, up to +100%.
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>>586484394
it broke the formatting...
if someone can fit it into a screenshot would be nice
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>>586484394
Fishbuffs tomorrow
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>>586484394
That's it? Is Light retarded?
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>>586485460
yes
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>>586484394
>Alva buffs
Based. Buffing all of Alva's shield-derived damage by 50% is pretty huge. Giving her another way to gain aliemus is also really nice, but this is massive:
>Combat Stance
>New: this Command Card is not affected by Sealed.
Whoa, now it can actually be used when Alva's been hit with Sealed, giving her a good niche against bosses that spam dimensional chains. Still wish she got a method of grabbing Precision Slash out of the deck, but I guess her teammates can do that for her.
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On Pandia
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>>586484967
Cockus pls
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Lore drop
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>>586485705
pretty obvious
she scales with counter so she's already indirectly buffed
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Does dev has any plan to release artbook or some sort in the future?
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>>586485964
They have posted a lot of artwork on the official discord in the "official assets" channel. Pretty sure they would love to sell a full artbook, but don't have the time or money to make one.
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>>586485561
lotan still only used for her oe
alva still deals base damage not shield damage
lily gets some real number increases
light doesnt play this fucking game
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>>586485705
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
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>>586487115
>light doesnt play this fucking game
Light expects people to be way better at the game than they are
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>>586490370
yeah i think that's more accurately the case
his input definitely comes from perfect-scenario tests the balance team gives to him, and it's really not technically wrong, but that's almost never realistic for most players in such a complicated game
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>>586485561
I like and regularly play Lily, but I admit I'm surprised and disappointed that they removed the funny crit rate payoff in her kit. Was much cooler mainstatting CR in slot 1 and 2 instead of supportcuck realm mastery/keyflare.
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>>586485561
>>586484394
>each "Strike" played by any Awakener increases Beast of Chaos' damage bonus by 200%
200% of what? The 16% ATK bonus she gets from her own strikes? So her own strike now buffs it by 48% ATK while any ally's strike buffs it by 32% or am I reading this completely wrong?
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tomorrow tulu buffs
the day after pickman buffs
completely unrelated to current banners, stop noticing
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>>586494915
they both need buffs so I don't see what the issue is
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>>586495520
Yeah the current rerunning banner characters are unironically pretty shit.
>>586492692
Lily 4 cost can get pretty high CR even without CR wheel. Lily's wheel is just that stupid.
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>>586485621
>As for Day 30... honestly I haven't figured it out yet AAAAAAAH!
Easy slot in for Traphase news, let's go!
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>>586496006
a bit funny that Lily's and Tulu's wheels are the only must haves from the current reruns
or maybe the buffs will be impactful enough to change this
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Hello, /mori/friends,

I hope this post finds you well. Today I post with hopes to establish /mori/, the Mythag University Football Club (MUFC), to compete in the upcoming /vg/ League 27. If you aren't aware, VGL is all about different threads putting together footbal (soccer) teams in Pro Evolution Soccer (various versions) and pitting them against each other as NPC teams, streamed live directly from some no-life's room.

The first step of signups is the gain Proof of Interest (PoI), which simply requires replies to this post with what you think of the idea, be it positive or negative. I will be online for the next 4 hours or so to answer any questions, and let me know if you want to have a larger role in the creation of the /mori/ team, be it 3D aesthetics, graphic design for the team logo, or anything else.

Also, if you dig the idea, feel free to reply with characters/memes/etc. that could be used as players on the team. For example, Shin Megami Tensei General has medal players (basically ace players) like Demi-Fiend, Jack Frost, and MARA, and other players (midfield, defense, etc.) like Smirk, Sex with Demons, and HOY.

Thank you, and I hope you have a day free of Dissolution.
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>>586504402
That's cool but do we really have enough people for that?
Well, I nominate Light
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>>586505630
>do we really have enough people
If you mean people playing on the team, then actually the players on each team are all CPU-controlled by the game itself. No human input is required except tactical changes and substitutes being communicated to the streamer by the team manager. The manager or caretaker is just the go-between for the thread and the VGL management for the team to be a thing in the tournament. See pic related for an example of the silly things that can happen.
>I nominate Light
If he makes it on the team, I personally want him to be named "BIVA" and be a beaver instead of a cat. But it's all up to the thread which characters or memes get on the team, for which I will create a poll if there is enough interest.
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>>586504402
i nominate saya as goalie
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>>586504402
I've never actually watched divegrass live with other generals but sounds interesting. Though I'm not sure how 2d games are represented on the field when we don't have actual 3d models. And we're kind of lacking in the meme department honestly...
>N is the most obvious one
>"professional punching bag" for Leigh (or maybe the Leigh anon should have the honor to name her)
>"agrippa ma cocka" for Agrippa
>some joke about buffs for Doresain or maybe "King of Ghouls" is already cool enough and doesn't need to be a joke (please no Doorstain)
>can imagine Ogier as the goalkeeper but we have an actual Keeper in the game...
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>>586504402
I nominate Clown 24 and ULTRASH (Clementine)
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>>586504402
>half the team is different 24 personas
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>>586504402
Luv me some divegrass, though we're such a tiny general.

>>586507546
>>586505630
Seconding all of these. Ogier can still play defense even if he's not keeper. Other thoughts
>morinight
>Gaecus
>probably need a Tulu rep but let's wait for his genesis
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I nominate:
E3 Caecus
Turn Rewind
Fortress
Wheel Jail
Coalsie
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>>586507546
>Though I'm not sure how 2d games are represented on the field when we don't have actual 3d models.
There are a few super-cool aesthetics guys who can make custom 3D models for teams in Blender, or someone from the thread can make them. If time becomes a concern, then something like "box heads" or "card heads" can be used, where players' heads are replaced by 2D pictures and such. Pic related is Al/ck/oholic from /ck/'s team, for example.

>>586508664
>probably need a Tulu rep
Could make "God King Tulu" into "GK Tulu" as the goalkeeper.
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>>586504402
I'm not sure what to say about the idea of divegrass stuff because truth is I don't have any interest in soccer and wouldn't be watching any of the games, at most I'd take note of our wins/losses if anyone posts them here in the thread. And as others have said, /mori/ is a real small general, I'm pulling a number out of my ass but these threads have maybe something like 20 regulars in total, which is not a lot. I do think the idea of Mori having a divegrass team is cool for whatever it's worth.
Keeper as the Keeper sounds like a fun idea. I'm obviously biased but I would also want Saya to be on the team as well.
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>>586509457
Is there a place I can find some of those custom 3D models or a guideline of sorts on how to make them? I can use Blender but I'm not sure whether I can commit the time if it's something that requires too much effort so I want to see how detailed they are.
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>>586510458
We definitely want to show off our Saya to the rest of the board
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>>586510518
There is a tutorials page on the wiki if you want to contribute (VGL 27 will be on PES 19). Go to implyingrigged.info and check the Aesthetics Portal for tutorials and such. You can also check out the >discord channel for aesthetics questions and discussion.

>>586510458
>>586510865
There is a player on /vn/ called "ded medium," represented by a Saya fumo doll model. The Saya on /mori/ could reference that player and call her "Revived Medium" or something.
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Aren't there AI tools to generate a 3D model out of a 2D sprite? Maybe the morislop anon can help with that.
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>>586485561
those Alva buffs are kind of crazy
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>>586504402
i like it
also agree with Coalsie and/or ZABOON for Vortice
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>>586511973
>The Saya on /mori/ could reference that player and call her "Revived Medium" or something.
Kek, perfect
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aigis and lily are the real mascot characters
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>>586508664
morinight can be the Tulu rep
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or Gthulhu
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>>586487115
>alva still deals base damage not shield damage
I don't get it. Don't her rouse and 3-cost just add 3x shields to their base damage?
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>Death Resist (faint)
>Greatest Potential (Sanga)
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>>586517150
nta and not an Alva player but I "think" the rouse effect and 3 cost dmg increases are just a flat amount of damage added in a similar way to strength, counter bonus, tentacle dmg bonus etc
her soulforge is added into base damage and is the main cause for those 100 million burst turns (also very likely a bug because it keeps counting shield gained beyond shield cap)
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>>586511973
Our Saya shouldn't reference /vn/'s
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Thank you all for responding to the divegrass post. I think this should be enough for a proper Proof of Interest. I will let you guys know whether the team is accepted for the upcoming tournament or not. If we are, then I'll collect player names that have been suggested and put them into a poll. Feel free to add more suggestions if you want, as there are 23 players slots to fill in total.

Have a good one!
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Our star player? Doorstain.
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we should include czn for keeping us bumped through the rough times
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>>586520064
Name her liv medium and arrange a friendly with /vn/. Whoever wins gets to keep her.
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fish news tomorrow!!
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>>586529260
Predicting MORE STRENGTH for Goliath. They will never touch any other part of his kit, just pile on more strength buffs
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>>586523089
Mythag University Football Club (MUFC)
Manchester United themed logo go
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>>586529260
Faros bros... is it our time...?
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jesus christ traphase is the biggest piece of shit. eos this cancer.
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>>586533902
honestly doubt it, they wont dare buff her cards directly since tawil exists, she'll prob just get some AA nudge and more shielding maybe
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>>586536889
you could double every number on Faros' command cards and no Tawil would ever touch them. wtf.
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>>586533902
They're going to decide the poison changes are enough and call it a day. Ditto for Caecus and counter.
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>>586533902
50% more poison
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>>586485561
Don't all these 0 cost cards generated by Lotan make Xu really strong with her?
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>>586535076
You are Trapped.
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>>586523089
Holy Tawil has got a fat ass
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>>586539203
maybe for some cheese strats with hp% damage but under normal circumstances you won't be playing Lotan outside of mono chaos
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>>586540128
that's right, I'm trapped doing traphse draft monthlies with dumbfuck cards like Queen's Edict that make the game mode garbage
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>>586542637
>monthlies
Don't worry about winning then, just spam cards
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>>586543368
max rank speeds up soulforge grind by alot
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>>586544036
you used to be able to guarantee playing vs an ai for your first traphase game of the day if you were <1500mmr but that's no longer true for draft

i've just been trying to slow my descent for my 150 cards per month in draft so I still get 30 gold soulforges at least
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>11 GB update
Wow thank you Light!!
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Wtf i really love Vivian now
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>winning draftphase
>opponent quits, depriving me of a chance to play cards
Faggot.
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>100k scrip
>150 sediment
>9 standard pulls
>135k silver
this game's economy is retarded
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>>586558479
Guess you have no choice but to play another match haha...
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>>586504402
divegrass? LETS FUCKING GOOOOO
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News in...?!
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>>586517150
it is flat damage added after base damage multipliers
alva damage is all from her soulforge which buffs base damage
the damage per point of shield 2 -> 3 buff does practically nothing for her
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Aaaaaaaaah she's so cute!
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>>586541306
lota is very meta along xu now since both go into HP% bosses
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>>586573979
any minute now!
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which meta character will get buffs next?
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>>586583209
my wife aurita
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>>586583209
it's fine to buff Lotan's regular non-HP% damage
appearance rate is a flawed statistic because everyone has a maxed out Lotan
you can't use a character you don't own or haven't built
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>>586583209
Not sure who should be buffed, but they should definitely nerf Leigh. Nerf her straight into the ground. Grind her bones! Scatter her entrails! Flick her nose!
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>>586583601
aurita will get no buffs because the realm changes are enough and light does not want to overbuff
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>>586585332
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>>586585541
Chin up, kid. You're still one of the most fun aequor units!
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Light, post the fucking buffs!
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1000 silver. NOW.
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Tulu is asleep anyway so the buffs will surely be here by the time he's awake!
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any minute now!
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I don't want buffs, I want nerfs
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I want to ban at least one character each draft phase. Gramona goes into the bin where she belongs.
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We took a careful look at the Aequor Realm Awakeners and decided to buff none of them.
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>>586598593
legitimately if they only buffed Tulu i wouldn't even mind, I haven't tried an invested Faros I don't know how bad it actually is and there aren't really other buff candidates.
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Good morimorning, where are the buffs?
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>>586600769
uh...
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>>586600769
at some point within the next 12 hours... presumably... maybe... probably...
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It's all over...
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3000 apology silver
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Tulu is sad
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>>586606307
patience, have faith in Light
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>>586580571
A cuckoo, you say?
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AURITA BUFFS!!
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Aurita
Enlighten 2
Now also applies to "Strike".

Over-Exalt
New: the next 5 "Gland Division" take effect 1 additional time.

Absolute Axiom
Reworked: "Strike" and "Clamorous Ocean" deal DMG 3 additional times.

Soulforge
Once "Clamorous Ocean" has consumed at least 20 "Gland Division", "Gland Division" deals DMG 1 additional time. This no longer requires a Boss Battle.
DMG increase for Aurita per "Gland Division" consumed: 8% 12% of ATK.

Faros
Talent
For every 1% DMG Amplification Faros has, Shield from "Lost City of Lemuria": +0.4% +0.6%.

Enlighten 1
Temporary Tentacles gained from "Ocean of Elation": 1 2.

Absolute Axiom
Tentacle DMG converted to Poison: 5% 8%.

Soulforge
New: for each Aliemus consumed by "Lost City of Lemuria", temporary DMG Amplification +1%.

Tulu
Talent
For every point of Aliemus Regen Lv.:
Tentacle DMG and STR bonus for "Strike": 5% 10%;
Tentacle DMG and STR bonus for "Abyss Order": 15% 30%.

Exalt
New: triggers the Aftershock effects of all cards in hand.

Over-Exalt
Temporary Tentacle DMG and Temporary STR gained are tripled.

Rouse
For each Arithmetica spent or each Tulu Command Card discarded, gain STR and Tentacle DMG equal to 3.2% of ATK.
For each Arithmetica spent or each Tulu Aftershock triggered, gain STR and Tentacle DMG equal to 4% of ATK.

Enlighten 3
Aliemus gained at end of turn: 5 5 + the number of Tentacles.

Absolute Axio
After Exalt, Tentacle DMG taken by all enemies: +10% +15% per stack, up to 5 stacks.

Soulforge
Temporary Tentacle DMG gained each time a Tentacle attacks: 2.5% 4% of ATK;
Stack cap: 25 50.

Strike, Defense, Abyss Order, When Lemuria Returns
Target of the Tentacle attack commanded by Aftershock: 1 enemy all enemies.

Wheel of Destiny, Hymn of the Sovereign
New: the wielder's Tentacle-commanding effects +25%.
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Zamn
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Tulu is happy

though still no permanent buffs
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damn, actually pretty massive buffs for tulu
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>>586607365
insane faros buff, her OE just got 200% temp dmg amp FOR FREE

tulu actually looks fun

pulling E3 right nyow
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>>586607365
>Tulu can now discount Pontos gaunts without discarding them
that is starting to sound really strong...
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Maybe I'll finally play discard. The last time I tried it was very bad in mobs even against old dtide.
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>>586607365
> Exalt
New: triggers the Aftershock effects of all cards in hand.
Time to move him to my discard Pontos team?
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>actual Aftershock support
So this is the power of anniversary buffs... not bad.
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>>586607671
his rouse permanent buffs are increased so it might be good enough
the OE got a huge improvement though so there's now a very good reason to save aliemus for it
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>>586608283
>>586608310
the only problem is that i dont think tulu wants bAequor with the new buffs
the 25% final dmg every turn classic aequor is gonna get is like tailor made for him
probably will still be strong with pontos tho
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>>586607365
>Temporary Tentacle DMG gained each time a Tentacle attacks: 2.5% 4% of ATK;
>Stack cap: 25 50.
50 tentacle attacks... hmm...
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>>586608862
if you trigger his exalt with 10 tentacles and 4 of his cards in hand that's already 40 tentacle slaps
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>>586608623
bAequor free 100% dmg amp is a pretty big deal for initial tentacle damage
also spamming red stance means you're destroying your own tentacles and he kind of wants a large number of them for his E3, soulforge and 4 cost
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>>586607998
the text only names her exalt, surely it applies to OE too right?
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>>586608970
the aftershock is a single tentacle attack so your example would be 4 slaps
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>>586609163
oh i'm retarded, it says all enemies not all tentacles...
that would've been too strong
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>>586608862
Both Gmurphy and Aurita in red stance makes you tentacles attack a million times
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>>586607365
Can I free Tulu from GMurphy now?
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>>586608623
Before now he’s working as a Lemuriabot on my GMurphy team so I don’t have a non-benthic team for him anyway

If I move Tulu to the Pontos team Gaecus is homeless AGAIN…
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>>586607365
gland division can now deal damage 4 times after OE with portrait and her third exalt can now hit 24 times with AA, also scales 50% faster then before
not sure if it's enough for dissolution but these buffs are looking really solid
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>>586610291
I don't think you can replace Caecus on that team, he's your sustain and only source of healing. The one getting the boot will probably be Casiah during non-ultra ring or maybe even Corpo.
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>>586609050
yeah everything an exalt does also applies to the overexalt
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>>586610487
I guess Corpo could go but it’s turning into a real fish sausage fest now
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>>586611013
I'm not even sure how Tulu's exalt will affect Corpo's lightning. Will it just move from your hand to the top of the draw pile? If so, it probably won't even get the discount because it's not being discarded. Or it could just not move at all and do nothing with the aftershock.
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>>586607365
Aurita is going to take all week to finish her attacks now
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>>586611334
Yeah I’ll refrain from making any real changes until we can experiment. Also want to see Gtulu’s kit.
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>>586611334
text says it should move from hand to top of deck, but they'll probably change lightning retrib so that it has to not be in hand to move.
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>>586612136
it says "returns to the top of the draw pile" so there's a chance it's coded to only trigger from the discard pile
dunno honestly
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Dorebuffs tomorrows!
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>>586618821
Or Ultrabuffs!
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>>586620059
im curious what direction they'll take with tinct
she's like a half-assed strike character with random team buffs on top
light mentioned they wont go the strike route with her so maybe cheaper cards
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>>586623004
I'd like to see her be turned into the best status cleanser in the roster. Songs that soothe the soul and drive away Dissolution and shit. Her 2-cost already clears weak/vuln/fragile, so maybe her exalt or 3-cost can cleanse something else, too, like poison or seal.
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so many big changes i want them to drop already
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>>586609610
you can probably replace him with Faros in GMurphy
the dmg amp from her exalt will be pretty good on burst turns and you can also use it to draw waltzes
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>>586628885
or way more likely, he's getting enabled in other comps cause gTulu would've replaced him either way
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>>586620059
Praying for Erica
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>>586636684
Daffo is confirmed, Pollux is almost confirmed
though tomorrow is supposedly caro day
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>>586641124
Do we know which Caros are getting buffed? Besides the door.
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>>586643575
sorel, helot(dps), agrippa
MAYBE pickman
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>>586643575
We don't know, beyond Doresain

I'd be pissed if sorel was passed over, beyond that idgaf
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All of these characters are already usable in Traphase by the way.
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>>586645645
Sorel should definitely be getting changes, if anything to make her work a bit better with pcaro
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>>586650097
they kinda already did that with her wheel, likely not enough tho
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>>586607365
funny how tulu buff makes the aftershock corpo team worse because it puts lightning on top of the deck without reducing cost
let us reset tulu for selectors please
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>>586655357
pretty inconsequential, very easy to play around unless you're playing corpo as main dps for some reason, in which case you just dont play tulu
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>>586607365
aurita still does no damage
faros still does no damage
tulu still does no damage but the aftershock trigger is nice to remove sacrifice in lemurians and oe buff is nice damage boost in lemurians
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>>586655357
we don't know if that's how it works
there's a good chance the aftershock only triggers if the card isn't in hand
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>>586661080
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>>586662024
oh... well whatever honestly he wasn't being played on that team anyway
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>>586662024
Pretty funny to see Corpo catching so many strays lately. First Horla wheel and now this.
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>>586662989
>>586663469
I honestly don't know if it's a big deal... You'll just pop Tulu exalt then Corpo's...
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>>586663757
True, you can also use whatever other forms of card draw the team has at the time. Discard also likes running Lily's posse for even more redraw.
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>>586663757
-2 card draw -2 arith isn't a big deal?
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>>586675013
I wish we could put Murphy in her comfy coat again
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Hilarious how differently a fight will go depending on if the opponent knows to knock out Celeste first or not.
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What the fuck? How are you niggas still alive?!
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>>586686680
Death Resistance
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>>586684796
>exalt revives allies potentially allowing 3 dead allies to themselves exalt
I sleep
>fortress
real shit
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>>586689790
Our hatred for Fortress transcends game modes.
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