>Latest patch:https://www.playdeadlock.com/cityneversleeps>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/https://deadlock-api.com/>Unofficial CompetitiveNewshttps://edl.gg/https://www.deadfrag.com/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>585642445
I'm a Quakefag and Vyper is my favourite hero to play but somehow she is still one of my worst.
sexy feral canine hero when
>>585672942I support a cool Dog-based hero.But we both know trans people would coopt it for their usual toxic bullshit so I dunno.
are doorman players extinct now
Okay I got Grimoire, which mods do I get?
>>585673261I just got matched with one and he was clutch as fuck with the doors
>its another night of whichever team has the most new heros wins
Surely I have time for one more game before I sleep. Surely it won't take 55 minutes.
Sneedman Tranny
>>585673368how do you even do bad as violet just another spam all abilities (other than 2) off cooldown and win hero
Rem.....
WHAT DO I DO AGAINST THAT COCKSUCKER APOLLO????
>>585673568punting his ass across the street
>>585673580The usual: buy anvil
>>585673417hey at the very least it wont be an unbearable slog where your team doesnt do anything for those 55 minutes and the only reason you didnt lose at 25 is because the other team is either also bad or bming!!! :-D
>>585673580Slowing Sex him
>>585673303the auto parry QoL
>>585673681Oh boy I found a match! I can't wait for us to have balanced team comps!
which one of you was this in my game
Paige looks like she gives boobjobs
>>585673848@grok remake this with rem on the left mo on the right and billy in the middle
I love playing with people that knows their pos. Had a Lash hover my lane while I was getting fat as fuck farming, people were trying to stop me from getting too big and we counter raped them.
Whoops wrong thread
>>585673848kysrat king was a mistake
>>585673965*Ivy
>>585673780Paige is for anal
wraith is an auto win character
>>585674095No
what if we just to take both their shrines and drop patron and then just loiter around their base while our rejuvs expire i wonder what will happen
>violet's dialogue contains another wuthering heights referenceso that's the third after paige and graves. Someone in the writer's room is a basic bitch.
>>585673529they somehow managed to die 5 times before any guardian was destroyed
>>585674326the other day i went 0-7 before the first rift and still won as a key player that shit does not matter
>Can't stun rat king out of his ult even though its clearly a channel>can't slowing hex rat king to stop his ult from being cast even though its clearly a movement ability>can't CURSE rat king out of his ult even though its clearly buffing him and cursing other people removes RK ult from them for the durationWhat the fuck, hopoo? What, did you watch Willard at a formative age and need to make rat king just ignore all consistency
>>585674426it only matters if the person you're feeding in lane is a hyperscaler. if you're feeding someone like a fruitfly graves it may actually be beneficial because the retard will get too confident and feed back all the souls midgame
>>585674426faggots WILL tell you that early game matters now, this is because they are liars as well as gayboys
How do I win on drifter without playing against complete retards
>enjoy danny >don't enjoy movement tranny nonsense>always playing with 20% less efficiency cause cant escape for freei hate movement so much bros it's unrealI'd still play dota 2 instead of this slop if anyone who spoke english still played and it wasnt all griefed SA invader games
danny the troonment tranny
imagine how kino it would be if we had a new mystery hero coming up on halloween but ofc valve is too soulless and creatively bankrupt to do anything actually fun or interesting
I need Holliday's uneducated flyover hick ass on my cock right now
>>585672942Silver's right there, man
>>585673716update: 3 dropped players by the 20 minute mark including an 0 and 9 Graves.We did not win.
meta so dogshit it has me reinstalling this garbagewake me up when these devs gut baba and violet
>>585674887CNS heroes are so dogshit I don't think I want them to release anything new t b h. Just port some DOTA heroes and we're good.
I'm starting to realize this game isn't fun
>>585675265every 6 new heros has made the game objectively worse.new heros were powercreeped so bad they had to do march 6th which did irreparable damage to the game.
IN DE DIRT*dies*
Holliday is a ton of fun, it's a shame I'm too shit to play her in anything other than streetmeme.
>>585673580For me, it's the avoid button and then seethe when the fag is still in my match
yer dead
THROWIN BOLA*saves enemy from dying*
>>585675532They should give normal holliday street brool crackshot scaling
>>585675585Ok seriously though how the fuck do you use that ult correctly?
>lane partner feeds during lane phase>for the rest of the game i only lane or farm and never take part in any team obj + i report my lane partner for griefingand i will continue to do so until they add a surrender option or remove leavers penalty :)
>>585675713stealing middiet doorman ult for setting up ganknuking early game to get a kill with 2running away
>tfw only mystic
>>585674552Of course Violet hater doesn't know about Chinese parents.You know, it's interesting how Violet detractors keep exposing themselves as uneducated, uncultured third world ESL trannies. So funny.
Sex with Venator
silver if the game was made by glorious nippon instead of western barbarians
>>585675125Silver is not feralferal = animal body aka literal dog
>>585675957kys troon
>>585675957man this soulless chink trash is so tiringJapan used to produce cool shit and unique design but they've fallen off even more than the westAs if anyone could tell which one of the million copy-paste gachas this one is from.
>>585675957how coombrained do you have to be to want this aesthetic in every vidya you play
>>585676102>Gachafags are hereNo wonder this place sucks
i see there are many western barbarians in the general today
western video game thoughbeit
why the fuck do people play gtits not eve n fun and hes dogshit
>>585676006>>585676070>>585676117/qa/ lost. /pol/ lost.
>>585675957>>585676102>>585676172>>585676392go back to throwing money at honkhonk starfail and genshit-imfag like the good goyim you are.Maybe today if you spend enough on tickets you will pull the shiny whorebanner instead of the purple whorebanner
>>585676416bodied those freaks
>>585676416Anime website.
Where do I find "good" buildsThe in-game guides are 99% memes
>>585676416how does it feel to live in a society that promotes negros, browns, indians, and ugly women over beautiful women? are you proud of what your ancestors created?
>>5856764653d isn't anime
>>585676507look at statlocker/tracklock, watch E6 players, adapt one of the top builds to fit your playstyle
>>585676572false, e6 players build for tempo. im pisslow you are better off rushing rico and farming for 30 min
>>585676590Well yeah it depends on your rank. If no one is counter buying you can just focus on big dick damage.
>>585676416BASED
>>585676382I don't know but GT 3 is the most bullshit ability in the game and deserves to have a higher cd so I'm glad I don't see him that much
>>585676382wait for his remodel
>no one on team died except meCan't tell if I was retarded or if my teammates were KDA-obssessed cowards
>>585676837HEYA HOYA HEYA HOYA
>>585676382>global execute/global literally anything>obnoxious unkillable cunt who stays at the back>if he gets ahead he takes 80% of your health from the other side of the map>built in curse
>>585676967reality:>ok lane, may get a killstreak>never birds for far away teamfights>falls behind in souls midgame>does nothing lategame (probably doens't even show up to fights)>lose
>>585676382The NERF bow is lame af. He seems like a fun character, but I just can't play him while he looks like that.
>>585676382Building spirit on him is like getting to play with vindicta ult 100% of the time.
>>585677090kek
>>585676513>more false dichotomyStop projecting. You gacha and vtuber idiots are one of the biggest hives and perpetrators of trans and feminist bullshit on the current web.The fact that you have to pretend like the only two option are soulless 3d slop or uggo DEI shit says everything about you.Your constant spiral of brain numbing whore worship and degeneracy are a big part of why we even have this weird mix of soulless hyper sexualization combined with virtue signalling and "safe horny" garbage.
Playing anything other than spirit drifter is so boring. Running Shadow Weave + Spirit Burn is peak dopamine.
>team picks fight in tightest tiniest closet there is>flames their lash for not ultingtales from eternus
I'm eternus btw
nerf yamato please
>russian and eu servers merged after russian datacenters got bombed kek
Remove shiv from the game
remove wraith from the game
>enemy rushing down mid with mid boss buff>team runs infront of archmother instead of fighting with her
Why does every Silverfag think Silver should be uncounterable and unkillable the second they go wolf mode?
>>585672369Only on spirit builds, rocket jumping on gun builds is impossible because of the fire rate mechanic fucking with your muscle memory>rocket jump fine>buy Swift Striker>miss every rocket jump because the timing changed>adapt to it>buy burst fire>timing changed AGAIN
>>585678064>disarm silver>she still has all her limbswtf?
>>585678064Can you fight a wolf and live? Didn't think so
>>585678064she is, but she also scales horribly late and silver players don't adapt
drifter is the only character I can win on
>>585678173Nah I'd win
>>585673529If they have heroes that can just run at you you're stuck as an ultbot, you usually win still but you do fuck all damage outside of it
>called holliday>never takes a day off
Man Doorman really fell offI never see him picked anymore which makes sense because those walls are buggy as fuck pieces of shit lately
whenever someone goes neg with geist i just assume he's playing while jacking off to her model
>use Rem 1 on a creep camp>suddenly every creep has damage reduction because theyre halfway stuck in the wall for 5-10 secondsIcefraud.....
>>585678596Geist players are retardedThey all do bomb Geist and buy leech instead of infuser (when they all have zero gun items)
Sex with men
>>585678252I can't win on Drifter. I get tons of kills but end up losing because my team doesn't push lanes. Lost a game a few days ago where my team had a 40k soul advantage after I died (once).
Is my only hope of escaping elo hell, playing an m1 carry and killing off the entire enemy team before my government mandated feeder goes 0/10/2?
>>585678746Yes, but then they throw 3 Russians with masters degrees in feeding to try to take you down
>>585678746No you can also play a frontline hero and do the same thing which means your options areWraith, Venator, Haze, Seven, Mina, Infernus, Victor, Geist, VyperAnd Abrams, Billy, Mo and Krill, Rat King, maybe Yamato, Shiv, Baba.
https://cdn.deadlock.wiki/Orion_killstreak_high_03.mp3
>MUH RussiansYou have all the tools to avoid them yet here you are crying for months like a little bitch. Woman behavior
help
>Players looking up Statlocker™ profiles mid-matchWhat level of autism is this and why is it so common with these burnout tilted players? Unless it's a 14/0 aimbot haze I think is smurfing I've never thought to check their match history
>>585679225it has a companion app that does it automatically, it's extremely cancerous
>>585678173I could take a wolf iykwim
>>585676001feral enoughthere's probably some line that they won't cross, since the hero has to have some intelligible voice linesDota 2's Primal Beast was probably an exception
>take urn>slide through mid>walk to other urn spot>depositFuck movement
Baba, Kelvin, Nurse, Rat King, Violet, VenatorWhats your response to this team comp?
WHEREISTHEFUCKINGBALANCEPATCH????????
I bet Silver is a dead fish in bed
>>585679456Lock Billy, call them metashitters, have an excuse when I loseIf I somehow get ahead I manfight them 1v6 until either I win or they win
>>585679434movement pervs will always be hardstuck pisslow because all they can do is abuse the fuck out of a bunch of unintentional movement in source 2 (or whatever game they infest which is currently deadlock 2.
>>585679471Right here*unzips dick*
>>585676382He attracts high ego players, once he gets a remodel he'll be high pickrate for the rest of the game's lifetime>perma scaling>outrange anyone, don't have to risk your life as often = ego assuaged >dominate most lanes
>>585679456I'd probably say nigger if I had to be frank
WHO DESERVES TO BE A NEW HERO
>FEAREDyour reaction?
>>585679456Siphon bullets.
>>585679472She turned Abrams gay
>>585679580Considering I just got stomped by this exact comp in ways I haven't seen in this game in a long time, yeah same.
overwatch kpop collabs: 1deadlock kpop collabs: 0deadgockers btfo yet again
>>5856795830% chance we don't get a mushroom hero at some point but probably a few years down the line
>>585679472Being black out drunk will do that
>>585679583Marionette hero.......
>>585679472Imagine her puking all over your dick
How do I not grief on Calico
>my dynamo going 0/6 in laneit takes genuine effort to die this often with one of the safest character in the gamestandard is truly fascinating
>>585679620NEVER SHOW FEAR, NO MATTER THE ODDS
>>585679583It really is incredible how they hit out of the park with stage hand.
>play warden>loseThis character suck ass
>>585679364not even close, so what make a talking dog then, some guy got transfigurated into a dog or demon dog naafiri style or whatever else
>Kelvin pauses after a kill for BM and trashtalk >The Calico on his team goes "unpause right now" "don't waste my time, rat" "reported btw"Who was in the wrong here?
venator is so fucking slow
>>585680072based Calico
>>585678746unironically yes, you WILL get elo landmines like this retard on your team while the enemy has a 70% winrate duo every game and then tell you you're the only constant.the ONLY way to win consistently as the better player is to play Wraith or Haze
>>585680134forgot image.
Haven't played in ages. What changed about Hunter's Aura that made it go from being must buy on half the heroes to never seen in any builds?
>>585680072Kelvin. Pausing is only good if someone DCs or you want 20 seconds more tiktok time while you're respawning
>>585680072Kelvin is a fag, no one thinks bm pauses are funny
>>585680072the kelvin of coursestop wasting everyone's time just to type unfunny bm that no one will even acknowledge 90% of the time
>>5856794713-4 weeks unironically
>>585680072Calico wouldn't say this.
>>585680094His third leg is slowing him down
>>585680317but it actually does sound like something Calico would say
>>585679948I looked at statlocker and his good items didn't even show up on the item winrate breakdown.Try abusing his spirit scaling more by building him like the currently popular tank Graves build. Keep it very simple by going tesla bullet for your gun spike and torment pulse for your spirit spike. Then scale using EE, toxic bullets and Boundless Spirit (for greens, just build survivability and sustain so they can't fold you in a fight).In lane, start of with shield and put two points in it for the cooldown. Ideally you want to use the shield as peoactive sustain because you would like to avoid having to pick up a sustain item like extra regen or something like that (it doesn't build into anything good).
ITS MY TIME*dies*
NEW YORK WILL BE M-ack!
>>585680221it used to be triple effect on isolated enemies, it's weaker than it used to be but still one of the best items for characters that are good at isolating enemies from their team.
>>585680213Its honestly shocking that Venator is at a 45% winrate considering that the other m1:s are around 50%
Billy is so shit
>>585679273oh god, so these players think they're acting *like the pros* when they pull up their Companion App, as if whinging with numbers makes their whinging more justified and professional
>>585680276More like a few daysThis week is gonna gut every new hero
I NEVER BACK DOWN FROM A FI-AAAARGH
guess the character
>>585681015Violet
>>585681060yep.
>>585681015Violet is tagged as a support by the matchmaker and you have to build her like this sometimes, except with an actual green spike
im never escaping standard at this rate
>>585677090Beautiful moment
>>585679225people will do anything to be able to pin the blame on others instead of realizing it's their own fault.
>>585681119Cursed Relic has insane synergy with her 3, it is probably underbought currently.
>>585681303this would never happen in ranked :)
>>585677962Valve has never hosted Russian servers in Russia. RU servers are in Sweden.
>>585674426it really depends if you feed as someone like holliday or graves early you'll just be worthless but yeah feeding as someone like haze wraith or seven early means nothing
>>585678198How exactly do you "adapt" to that?
>haze es el negrowhy are the browns attacking other browns in my deadlock lobby
not yo day, fren
>Team does fuck all trying to support as Rem>Go gun Rem for fun>Carry game and get mvpI didn't realize how stupid this was and it worked.
>playing harrow>heal someone that's about to die to full>they just run away and leave me to die instead of helping fight the 1 dude they were running from
Is there no way to report bugs in-game? I don't want to join a Discord
>>585681909This happens all the fucking time. It got to the point I ignore most people unless it seems really winnable
>>585681270I see a bit of overlap between Paradox and Violet in how they would both be played as roaming gankers for their team. It is just that Violets numbers and item synergies are too broken so currently the ends up filling the Mina role instead.
>>585681991>Got a survey about bugs and Paige after posting thisda fuck
if im playing support and my team is ass; is my only option to just ride it out until the other team wins?
>>585680864>>585680276>>585679471It's not coming out until end of season so don't expect it until the end of next week
>>585681909Had a similar game like this as Moe where my team was being attacked and I held the dude down and got him low. They fuck off which gives the enemy time to fight back and the enemy team to come in. Later get bitched at for not going in.
>>585682240>muh end of seasonThe season is a fucking meme retard
Why does the game feel so fucking boring right now? I feel like there's so little agency in the games and all the fights are just these fucked up group fights.
>>585679471Probably on ranked reset?
So I just fucked myself because I didn't realize new heroes don't fucking count for ranked even though said I unlocked. How long does the new hero tag last because Rat King has been out for a while.
my arrow will strike true
>>585682376Well, you just it yourself. The problem is that just forming a deathball and doing teamfights is basically the only way to play the game right now.
>>585682473I really wish there were fun 1v1 fights but the teams just collapse on fights that take more than 5 seconds. My fondest memories of Dota 2 are when you outsmart someone who's chasing you or you pull off a play that lets you win a 1v1.
Do you think the item rework update will include a couple remodels?
On my infernus games i either have 130k dmg or like 20k no inbetween, and i can’t make sense of it, i feel like i have similar levels of participation in all the games
>>585682376>>585682473Thank god I'm in shitlow where just being a lane janny and splitpushing all game wins you games
>>585682256>Rem initiates a fight>in voice chat they say "lets get this guy">follow up with mo ult>theyre already on the zipline back to base by the time my ult is finished
>>585682670What's fucked up is I'm only sentinel 1 in actual ranked but when I play standard, I consistently am against Emmisary and above. I even had a fucking eternus player in my lobby the other day and it was a nightmare. I don't want to play ranked right now because the balance of the game is completely fucked.
>Keep having hour long if not more>Never can end when got everything>Game just comes down to who gets picked of randomly The rifts feel like nothing even if the enemy gives it away for free. Mid boss half the time feels like a throw where someone gets too cocky wasting it or the enemy steals it. I don't mind longer games but its tiring to always and teams doing fuck all to end.
>>585679472Depends on how drunk she isThe scale goes from>sober -> buzzed -> blackout>deadfish -> tiger -> dead fishScaling linearly
10 days until the season 1 beta endsDid you rike?I fucking hated it
Is there no MMR in standard? I am bronze/silver in ranked and statlocker but when I look at my matches on there I get matched with and against Oracles, Phantom players that are ranked in the EU leaderboards
How the fuck does a Nurse have the least healing on the team
>>585682710Pranked
>>585682910I didnt play ranked lmaoHad fun
>>585682910The worst the game has every been by far. Feel so aimless.
What are the heros to play if I just want to macro in peace
>>585682910It was mostly fine till the new heroes.
Why it sometimes I will hit someone on a rail but they don't get stunned and eat shit like me? I see the damage from it.
>>585682910Lost 5 out of my 8 matches, negative KDR in 6 of them. Got into Mystic II somehow and never touched it again. I have to wonder how fucking garbage people in the lower ranks have to be if I got around the mid point with barely 90 hours.
>>585682910>"season">completely fuck up the balance and rules right at the endfeels great.
>>585682583Play a 1v1 game then
>>585683091I think the lower ranks are just filled with rivals/overwatch players who just brawl all game and ignore the moba part of the game
>>585682910>Did you rike?
>>585682910I'm a Deadlock noob but Rift, China tower, Jar, and the weird mushroom building all feel like they need to be gutted/replaced or heavily reworked.
I didn't come all this way......to die .. here........*dies*
>>585681909this happens even if you aren't healing them>jump in to help the 2v1 thats going on turning it into a 2v2>okay thanks for that im not even half health but bye :D>leaves so you get bummed in a 2v1
Can an egirl gf play harrow?
>>585683242It feels like Rivals sometimes, you see 40% winrate people in Eternus which is crazy
>>585683078if they're on a zipline long enough (you'll see them flash blue) they cant get knocked off +
Why is it that some characters just do fuck all damage in lane like Abrams but cunts like paige get to blow my dick off with her gun?
I love playing Victor so much.>can build gun and spirit and still rape>going both builds doesn't change his core gameplay>still pos1 farmkinoLiterally the perfect hero if not for Valve nerfing his T3 jumpstart
Solomon is fucking cancer to fight holy shitevery single new character is aids to play against except for maybe rat king and harrow
>>585682910>>585683242Cant wait for them to finally screw around with ranked once the season endsThey need to add an actual casual queue because standard is just ranked still because people are desperate to get wins on their mains to unlock ranked
>>585683538Solomon would be fine if I could jump his retarded ground tiles without triggering them. It's insane just how much vertical reach they have.
>>585683538>except for maybe rat king and harrow
>>585682910i wouldn't touch that ranked system with a 10' pole.>>585682998>>585683037i've been more excited for the item update, didn't really care about any of the new heroes. mostly i'm hoping (a fool's hope) that the matchmaker will stop with the funny joke about the two or three people on my team going 0-16-3, this really makes it hard to enjoy the game lately.
>>585683538He is dead weight nearly all my games but the people who know how to abuse make it mega cancer. I am not really sure how you can balance him to be still rewarding for low end players but still not let high end win everything. Personally I feel like his chess pieces should not be allowed to stay on enemy structures or not take damage just for existing instead only the movement does damage. Another issue is his abilities are such a visual cluster fuck.
>>585682910I only tried it for the supposed hideout item because I have FOMO
DESU I like the new heroes (except violet but her kit is fun) they just need heavy nerfsAlso Harrow and Violet NEED their ults reworked
>>585682910Cmon yoshi give me a 6 game win streak so I can hit Ternus
How are they going to balance these new characters to not be cancerous to go against? I feel like it's built into their kits to be non-interactive and just un-fun to fight.
>>585682910I spent all season 1 beta unlocking heroes in Standard, I unlocked like 3 to 4 because I only play during weekends when I don't have work. I did do my placements and I'm Mystic V (previously Phantom 1) so it's whatever. Give me the Season 1 Beta ranked badge so I can flex that I am an oldhead.
>>585683727H-hideout item?Don't tell me I'm going to have to play this fucking garbage.
>>585683761Harrow doesn't need her ult reworked, outside of heals she literally has nothing. can't push waves with her leech, if her heal syringe are gone then no heals and her 2nd skill is useless.
>>585683719his pieces need to be destructable, two heavy melees.shit is fucking retarded.
It's joever
>>585683761I'm gonna be honest broski if no one on your team is buying counter items for Harrow's ult you deserve to get raped by her ult. I agree with Violet though.
>>585683628Being able to invalidate an entire skill just by jumping would be overpowered. What? That's exactly how Graves' wall works? Uhhhhhhh shut up!
>>585683719>Another issue is his abilities are such a visual cluster fuck.This is why he's annoying but not very strong
>>585683761Just remove Harrow ability to hit you behind walls and not be immune to damage the whole ult duration. She is basically a better Harrow at this point. I will say Violet ult is the most boring fucking thing to exist and add visual shit on the screen.
>>585683761Harrow ult makes sense in an isometric game where you have the overview of a fight and can still tell what is happening behind your character when you're feared and throw abilities back once the cc is over. It is plain retarded in a game where your camera is bolted to your character's fov and you need to spin them around to face it to see what is happening in rift/midboss pit. Call me brick but there is no ult in the game that dictates your cam the way this fat gilf does
>>585683919>>585683628Yeah either the Bishops need counterplay, or the tiles need to be more easy to jump over. Its just so much random passive damage you take in a clusterfuck fight.
>enemy Harrow pops her ult>turn around>winwow guys
>get a clueless harrow>he presses 2 at random times for no reason>take 30% extra damage and blow up in fights i would have otherwise wonthey didn't really think this through, huh? i think yoshi forgot most of the playerbase are double digit iq browns and russians
>>585683816Its not that hardGet rid of rat kings damage reduction buffMake the grenade slower to explide but easier to melee awayGet rid of the charges on rat swarmAdd draft mode for BabaMake her other skills get imbued and consume the spirit she steals so she cant hold onto them for longGet rid of the stun on Solomons ult after subsequent useLet players kill the bishopNumbers nerf for Violet across the boardRework the ult into something actually creativeNerf Harrows numbersStrengthen the potency but lessen the range of her fear ultAll very doable
>>585682910I wasn't allowed to play. They want too many wins on my off heroes.I'm hoping they relax it to 10 wins for next season.
>street brool>harrow in my team literally did 0 healing>more dmg to player than half the enemy teambeast mode
>play Victor>get a good Harrow on my lane
This is still the my favorite violet ult rework
How do I break the habit of burning all my stamina on useless double jumps?>just don't do that lolI'm an autist who barely learned how to let go of W key when rocket jumping in tf2
>>585684248this sounds even more cancer to fight against but ill take it
>>585684267just burn it on diagonal dashes and bhop on 0 stam.
>>585684117>>Get rid of rat kings damage reduction buff>Make the grenade slower to explide but easier to melee away>Get rid of the charges on rat swarmInstant 30% wr. Rat King has nothing without all this horse shit he's just a fat and bad gun carry without it. One can go but all of them going at once puts him in the throw pick gutter.
I like how the hatred for Russians in EU is universal. No one wants these fucking retards on their server
>>585684401Well pick one then. I think the grenade nerf is fine considering its pure cancer during laning stage.He can keeo the bullet shred swarm I guess but the damage reduction HAS to go. Make it a more aggressive effect like bonus damage output instead.
>>585684403eufags have gay little nationalist complexes about every microcountry in their cesspit continent. they have 99% of europeans
>>585684117>nerf all the new heroes into uselessnessRat King needs nerfs, Baba too to a degree, the rest are either fine or too early to tell, Solomon might need buffs even
>>585684480*hate 99%
>>585684401I swear Rat King's grenade has homing
I keep finding out more about Violet abuse and bugs yet they done nothing to stop it.
>>585684117Rat kings shield buff just needs to go on cooldown when it actually expires instead of when he uses it so it doesn't have permanent uptime. That's the most bullshit thing about him. The grenade could use a nerf too since it's borderline impossible to avoid in lane. Rat swarm is totally fine.
Ill be honest here only Harrow and Violet are cancerIve gotten pretty used to all the other heroes But Solomons queen needs like less vfx I agree
>>585684609Bro fuck off lmao the shield is the only reason hes viable and can act as the first conventional tank
>>585684563Pretty sure it does have literal homing, bwo.
imagine the creatura that will be formed when apollos ixian sperm fertilizes graves' jewish egg
>>585684710>Actually, it's totally okay for this character to have 100% uptime on a 1000/+ health shield that reflects bullets and can only take at most 250 damage at a time because otherwise my fast farming, braindead wave clearing, gun carry with flat 25% damage reduction against everything wouldn't be tanky enough
>>585684595Like what?
they need to rework mirage bros his kit is outdated as fuck
>>585684896>rat king>gun carrylmfoa
>decide to try rem>2 god awful losses back to backhmm maybe this was a mistake...
>>585685037>playing rem in the big 26
>>585684896His shield is his weakest ability.
>>585684941Nah I just had a Mirage bitching about my objective damage when I'm full tank and he's just pushing all day. Fuck the useless cunt
>>585685037Every time I'm not playing carry I lose.I'm not even trying to say that I'm good, but that standard is completely full to the brim with crayon eating retards.
>>585685037>2rookie numbers
Rat King abusers are more clueless and unaware of how carried they are than I thoughtThey're more delusional that Graves players
>>585685013He is effectively a carry, you play him like one, he's not a frontliner at all like abrams or billy.
>>585685013>He is unaware
>>585685013>>585685383Rat King can be whatever the fuck he wants currently. He is basically a carry support-tank.
>>585685447>My wish is I wanna be noticed!damn if violet lived in the 21st century she'd simply start an onlyfans, or stream her art on twitch with a low cut shirt on
Here's the trvth>Baba and Rat King are giga busted>Harrow is cancer>Violet is objectively balanced>Danny and Solomon are decent but not good enough to carry games by themselves
You should be able to dash or slide into the grenade to push it away, not just melee itLet me do some real football shit
>Women lusting after the drifterHe's literally a rapist murder hobo...
Does billy ball?
Can someone explain why Rat Kang gets a free refund of his ult if he's interrupted and Curse doesn't even cancel his charge ?
>>585685757Curse does cancel his charge.
>>585685757Designated retardproof hero for mongoloids
>>585685776It's doesn't cancel it when he's in the process of slamming the flag down then. Just happened to me last game.
>tank graves>just normal hybrid graves with torment pulse to proc eeok
So whats the point of playing any other character when you can just play as a nigger m1 and hold left click all game, run away from any situation, and ult for free kill if youre really in trouble
>>585686197there isnt, thats why all people who grind ranked play m1 hypercarries
ermm but i thought spirit was the overpowered one??
Rem is actually so fucking good, you don’t even need to buy any stat items since your helpers easily net you like +600hp and 50 spirit power from boxes/sinners aloneVery well designed support
Specter is the only m1 carry that can run away from any situation
Anyone else still queueing billy....
>>585686467I am and it's the most miserable dogshit experience of my life. Why the fuck should I even play this character when it's the only tank that relies almost 100% on items in order to actually do its fucking job
>another match lost because of a retarded window-licking russian feeding the enemy teamCountry full of fucking mongoloids. I'd rather have an Indian on my team than these fucking retards
>>585686467I tried him in ranked once the new heroes came out, laned against danny...Suffice to say I will not be playing him again until he gets major buffs.
>>585672557i didnt get it the casual mentality until i befriended a casual. my friend is a lol player but the way he engages games is kinda interesting. is kinda ''normie-like'' if such word existed. he complains about mechanical complexity, dont see the deal of taking a PVE game seriously but also he doesnt want to improve on lol (hes playing since the early days), he also loves teambased games where he can complain how people are bad and hes good. cant into fighting games. so i do get it how games become ''casual'' people going into a ''instant reward'' mentality since they dont have another hobbies besides that.
>>585686467I played Billy against Baba in Street Brawl and that was awfulFeels like playing a shoto while fighting the most cancerous zoner ever
what do the eternus players mean when they say billy is bad because of the new map? how does the new map make him worse than on the old map?
>>585686746Billy is photosensitive and the lights hurt his goat eyes
Does vyper ball?
>>585685608I see most of the eternus players latching onto violet the same way they did with Silver. I suppose she is gonna get nerfed to hell
>>585686796it's dark everywhere though
>>585686796CUUUUUUUUTEI wanna coddle gote punk boye
What do /we/ think of this 'vy build?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWvWshaXxzQ
>>585686705Its even worse in ranked, baba just has him powercrept so fucking hard. She has everything a tank could ask, melee/debuff/spirit resist built into her kit so she only needs to build plated or metal skin to be invincible
Why is this such a prevalent mentality?Why don't people want a fuckton of souls to get a juicy item and be stronger?They'd rather spend twice the amount of time doing a game for a fraction of the souls
>>585686746His ult breaks on LoS more easily but I also assume its cause they did a nerf to his 2 somewhat recently which made him lose alot of damage. Billy is just a weird spot because Abrams can guarantee a heavy melees with charge/ult, and to get tanky Billy needs to light/heavy melee.
Drifter.Your honest thoughts?
Imagine:An in-depth "littlespace" skin for Billy.Im going red just thinking about it! >///<
>>585685447I will use the power of AI to make this into a real mod.
>>585687092strong but his playerbase eats crayons so it evens out
I DO MY BEST WORK IN HERE
>>585687024>retards are BROOLING in the middle of broadway>want to go help them not die>see creeps pushing our walker>go to counterpush>teammates complain that I'm not joining fightsThere's no winning is there?
>>585687257it's league all over again...
Why is /dlg/ not asking the questions that matter like age regression lore?
>>585687024most people have bad movement and have to pick between fighting and shoving lanes.
>>585686993I really don't understand why she has melee resist or why it's that high of a percent
>>585687257That's why you just play a carry and soak up all the farm while your meatshields are brooling so you can go rape everyone when fights actually matter
>>585687403The only thing she should have has is spirit resist, and even that should be nerfed by half its ratio or something. THIS NIGGER HERO DOES NOT NEED FREE DEBUFF/MELEE RESIST
I really need to learn how to move as Shiv.
>>585687514>anal fucking sounds
Baba's voice is so annoying
>>585686898>I see most of the eternus players latching onto violet the same way they did with SilverI'm not sure what you mean, Violet and Silver both have about a ~50% winrate high pickrate like all the other heroes at launch and Silver was not the most popular among the actual playerbase for freeloSilver got overhyped in fake pro matches and ended up falling flat on her face most of the time because they wanted her nerfed for countering their heroes and/or retardationThe real Eternus popular picks were Graves and Celeste because they were gigabusted, Rem was the most popular for the longest time too
>>585687257It's funny because they made the jungle bigger EXACTLY so people could do neutrals while staying close to their line instead of abandoning it. It's ESPECIALLY funny because these retards would probably get more souls per minute just staying on their line instead of leaving it and losing all free trooper souls.
i can't aim
Why the fuck does Violet's painting shit get to hit you around corners but Billy was nerfed so that his ult is basically unfucking usable in 80% of the map and instantly breaks if they so much as crouch at the right time? And even if it doesn't break, it doesn't ever fucking pull them properly
>lose game thanks to shitty team, lose 300 points>get mad>play super well, win game, not happy because I'm just where I started>lose game, even more mad>win again, still mad cus i'm back where I startedFucking hell I have been in this rank for days, I hate deadlock
>>585673580Slowing Hex disables 3 of his 4 abilities
>>585687780seek anger therapy
>>585687780You hate ranked, not Deadlock, you would stop playing it otherwise.
>>585687861>doesn't get to dash for half a second>can just press parry and dash away for a moment during that short ass windowlol
>>585673580Counterspell that faggot's ult, they never change the timing of it
>>585687814>I join a new game>I look at the two heroes I'm up against >I think "man, what a cancer lane"In retrospect maybe I'm just bad at laning.
>>585682473That's not even true though? If you do that you are just coinflipping who wins. The way to win currently is to secure a laning lead so you can play picks in the midgame, because tou absolutely do not want to play out a teamfight?When teamfight ultimates are powerful, avoiding playing into teamfights becomes the meta. The 101 midgame meta is to pick their crucial misboss players and then take a midboss they can't contest.
>>585687780seek anal therapy
>>585687780Your rank literally doesn't matter to anyone, just take a break for the day if you're not having fun
>>585687780Your rank matters to me and I will call you a shitter if youre not eternus
>>585684207>harrow in my team literally did 0 healingcheck again. If you take more self damage (blood tribute) than you healed then the game records it as zero
>>585682910>at one point I was phantom 3 back in the day. >ranked placement match's put me in fucking gold bat 2>win my ass off, finally get back to crow ranks.>been stuck at crow 1 for days>will never even see oracle again
>>585687814This but unironically
>>585685935You forget the part where EE is one of the best spirit resist items in the game.
>bro it's just QoL stuff"People" actually "play" like this
>>585687779Dev pet privileges
I dont understand dynamo's ult scaling with the t3 health damage upgrade. I bought colossus and tested and it didnt do anything to the dmg
Like 7 months ago I would hit a 4 - 5 man Billy ult every gameSince the new map I don't know if I've landed a single 3 man ult
>>585688448it's enemy health % you mongoloid
>>585688448it deals a percentage of the enemy's health, not yours.
>>585688436have a feeling mods are going to be banned eventually
>>585688662no shit
>>585686295Probably my favorite character in the whole game, he's so much fun. Still trying to find other characters to play though, since they changed a lot since I last played.
>>585688436Everyone with a brain is using it anyway
>>585673698I learned that goats don't have top teeth today
>>585688448Its based on enemy hp dingus
>>585688621We may actually have to go back to launch Billy chains
>>585673580Ummm
>>585688621Map is too big, so its way harder to land a good billy ult + it breaks too quickly.
I play rat king. I am coming to rape you. You can not stop what is coming.
>>585688645Thx and tell me how anyone is supposed to know that fuckstick
>>585687092Pretty fun, although the crayons hurt my stomach.
>>585688701it's not really a "no shit" moment, people that use mods like these are the most entitled people playing in whatever game they're in
>>585687092rape rape rape rape rape rape rape rape rape rape rape rape rape rape rape rape
>>585688772>>585688803>>585688621Just rework the ult. In any situation where Billy could pull a few people, Dynamo could wipe their whole team and Baba will take half your team's health + pigeon. Abram's basic ass charge gets more value consistently than Billy's long ass CDFuck Icefrog.
soul...
>>585688818Well you tested one of the only 2 possibilities right by buying colossus?
Its just a mod that aims for me and this here is another mod that parries for me
>>585687586in the whole. "Oh my god she is beyond broken" type like they did with silver. even though her toolkit was neither shit nor overpowered so now she got worse for all the overhyped feedback that they gave to the devs.
>>585688816But you do no damage ratkun
>>585688842no one with a semblance of a brain legitimately believes or at least doesn't have the fleeting thought that mods are probably going to be banned sooner or later in the video game with a competitive mode/aspect to it
>>585687092Red crayons taste the best
>>585688930knockdown used to come with free extra stam and health? damn
>>585689001wtf is this meme ratking does 500 dps at 25k souls not counting rat bite reductions + leech bullets
Why doesn't calico ult automatically reload her weapon? You can already do that manually and there's no downside to it, if you press ult and reload at the same time you jump out of ult with a full mag, you just have to remember to do it. It's not like it is a mechanically intensive thing that rewards both players, just a useless knowledge check.
>>585689061>rewards both playersrewards skilled players*
>>585688937No there was still the possibility that it doesnt get scaling or it doesnt scale from all sources
>>585689061there are times where reloading is not advantageous, like when you want to keep your merg mag bonus but the item is on cooldown so reloading would just clear the bonus
>>585689061It is always good when the game is designed such that you have to play it instead of it playing for you
danny feels like a rejected rivals charctter
If you use mods, you are a retarded trannySimple as
>>585689381He has way more going on than Iron Man or Torch
this game's so funny Billy went from one of the more reliable tank in the game to throw pick in the span of 3 patches
>>585689386You call everyone a tranny
>>585689452He had tankbuster on a gap closer + cc with like a 12 second cooldown you could also use as an escape tool and now he doesn't
>>585689481Only modders
>>585689481Word lost all meaning because it gets thrown everywhere at any occasion
>>585689147I guess, but I never see calicos building those items anyway. That issue could be circumvented if instead of reloading it just added bullets until the mag is full, it would technically be a buff but I don't think it wold change much besides making her feel smoother to play>>585689225Are we really pretending that having to remember to press "4+R" as opposed to just "4" every time you ult is good design?
>>585688818by reading the ability you stupid nigger
why cant Billy be built like linkrel?https://e621.net/posts/6701201?q=libra_creature_of_night
>>585689452Billy is fine
>>585689527Billy at his peak maxed 2 last and even now it's only a few seconds longer than 12 when it is maxedThe real answer is that>Billy went from an actually usable ult to the dogshit there is now. >he's entirely reliant on items for his tankiness because his ONLY tank-related skill has a high chance of him getting parried and losing 20x the health it would've earned him>he's an honest close range character in the middle of a meta where teamfights involve exploding chess pieces inside a wall of cancerous silencing ink while turned into a pigeonBetter tanks were released and older tanks have more tools to let them deal with the aoe meta than he does. He takes way too much stray damage. His dash was useful for getting away but you basically never had to run away before because you could actually do your job
ew Leffen
>>585689870>singsinghontrash never dies
>>585689847No
>>585689870>Fighting games are so dead every FGCtards is trying to make it into Deadlock
>>585689847Retard
>>585689858Make his light melees have parry pierce while blastedBoom, billy fixed
>>585689934It is weird how Sajam and now Leffen are doing Deadlock, Sajam started way before atleast. I wonder if Leffen truly thought 2XKO was going to be huge for several years
>>585689924>>585689945you're just shit>>585689858>his ONLY tank-related skill has a high chance of him getting parriedyeah only someone bad at billy would post something like this
streamer tournaments are always a retarded waste of time.they're just using the streamers to self promote their own shit.
>>585690005>I wonder if Leffen truly thought 2XKO was going to be huge for several yearsmost people didwhy wouldn't the next spinoff of LoL be super popular as well?(it's because 2XKO was SHIIIIIIIIIT)
>>585689778hyper looks retarded
>>585690005Nothing weird. There is no money in fighting games>I wonder if Leffen truly thought 2XKO was going to be huge for several yearsIt doesn't matter. Even if they like the game they won't play it because when aying game sis your job you need to play something popular and profitable. They truly lost their souls and joy to the capitalism, they can't enjoy anything anymore
>>585690108I think once anyone saw they were actually releasing with 10 characters, no matter how fast they put shit out it wouldn't be enough. Ontop of basically no solo content for casuals.
>>585689858this but replace every instance of Billy with Silver
>>585689870Every retard is trying to promote xir/xer esports competition now. Hopefully we can put all this behind us and Z-list ecelebs like Zerggy and Deathy when this game hits open beta
>>585690005Sajam's deadlock content suckshe just plays with full stacks of friends and thus ignores chat the entire time he playsCompared to someone who solo or duo queues like deathy its a significantly worse stream experience
>>585690036Name which of his other abilities give him>percentile damage reduction>extra resists>passive or safe active healing>spammable shields with a hard-capped amount of damage you can take>disruption that actually stops the enemy from attacking/actual hard CC that can interrupt anything>a fucking revive>insane vertical movement to avoid bullshitLiterally all he has is bonus health that amounts to 2 bullets lategame and can lose him half his health if he's parried and uhhhhhh 40% resist for 5 seconds during his ult I guess?Everything else is him charging at you while nothing he does actually stops you from killing him. Any situation where he can do his job, any other tank in the same position would have done it better automatically. Even when he's so maxed out on items that he isn't immediately raped for wasting his time parry-baiting or sitting on you and praying you randomly waste a parry, everyone is aware of his major weaknesses so they're ready to just slide-parry you the second you try to get anything out of itFaggot, kill yourself
>>5856901082XKO is a decent enough game to play with friends for a change if you're tired of Kekken and Street Shitter . But for a game 10 years in the making that's an abysmal result.The thing about 2XKO the FGCtards truly lament is that they were hoping Riot will bankroll their lives for the next couple of decades and they'll just play it because Riot = Esports money. No one expected it to flop so fast, and this is the real reason FGC influencers hate that otherwise mediocre game.These people played SFV While Actively shitting on it, yet they still played it because there were money in it injected by Capcom. They will play anything if there is money in it.
>>585690164nta but this would have been fine if they didn't get a bunch of lab monsters to make the game, it probably would have been fine if it didn't have an SF5-tier launch with just ranked and training mode. it's pretty much the perfect example of why devs shouldn't listen to players too much, because they got a bunch of players, gave them perfect conditions to make a game, and shat that out. literally nothing to do if you're not the type of degenerate who spends 10 hours in training mode looking to turn a match into a one player game
>>585680372This, I read it in her voice.
>he tries to be the "leader" of the team and tells people when to push / what to do next
>>585680072based calico
>>585690553Yes
Is there any way to make the heavy melee sound more obvious? Especially in teamfights where there's so much shit going on.I haven't played for ages but back then everyone had the same melee animation and the sound was more apparent to me. Now I just can't fucking do anything half the time unless it's a pure 1v1 and I'm sitting there expecting the parry
>>585690705that movie had no right to be so good
>>585679583Ascended crabbage pot hero would be awesome. Like a sentient Plants vs Zombies peashooter with a bad attitude and a hatred of Ixians
>>585690757QoL mod that replaces it with another sound
does the game decide who goes to which lane?played four matches so far and is always sent to the right sideand how come no one ever plays seven?his design is edgy but the kit is great
>>585690339Blasted gives a lot of HP especially with multihit 1s and you're severely underplaying it because you are bad and lose with Billy >40% resist for 5 seconds during his ult I guess?40% resist using one of the best ults in the game is not nothing
>>585690553>he makes dogshit calls that loses us the game but it's fine because at least he's making calls!
>>585679583stage hand
>>585679583in 5 years they will drop a gutter ghoul as a joke character
>3 games Archmother>win>3 games Hidden King>winwtf
We're using the recently bought items mod btw
>>585679583Stage Hand
>>585690714>haze>D tierkekaroo!
>>585690889you're not ready for the MMR bomb coming your way
>>585690870Ascended Gutter Ghoul will play like picrel BTW.
>>585690005>SajamI mean he's been playing Marvel Rivals and held events for other games. So I doubt its just bandwagoning
>queue as sinclair max prio every game>watch as the ultsissies on the other team switch off their game winning ult characters>never intended to play sinclair from the beginning and swap to my main
>>585690821Seven is honest so he's not picked that much
>>585690831>a lot of HPEven if we assume you're not saying retarded shit, and assuming you land like 4 procs off your 1 + reset, at best, lategame, you're getting like 800 health of it in exchange for being right in front of their entire fucking team. In the early-mid you're barely even getting 500 off it even if you have it maxed. This shit is half of Rat pressing his 3 every 10 seconds and its buffer is actually good. Blasted is fucking nothing unless you get to swing on them 10 timesEven if you get off a perfect combo you're getting fuck all out of it and then getting melted for all the extra health you got in half a second against a single M1, let alone the whole team you had to hit to get the health>one of the best ults in the gameYou're a jeet who doesn't play the character, kill yourself. Half the other tanks just outright take 25% reduced damage at all times and their ult doesn't just magically become useless over someone crouching at the right timeKill yourself tourist
>>58569016410 Years of Dev time for 10 Characters on release and no casual appeal what so ever. All they had to do was release Rising Thunder with League characters and somehow they managed to fuck that shit up.
when the inevitable Valve sponsored esports like TI happens for Deadlock, do you want the same niggers from nightshift to be the personality and commentators?
>>585690831>40% resist using one of the best ults in the gameLOLLMAO
It's kinda funny how every m1 carry is pretty honest
>>585679583So are just trash mob for the Risk of Rank mode
>>585690831>especially with multihit 1sYou get a single 1 proc every 6 seconds and even in perfect scenarios where you hit an entire team and they don't shoot you, it's still less than all the other heals or shields tanks have.
>>58569118325% more resist than Silver :)
had a graves ragequit because he doesn't understand carry macroyuppppppppppppp let me just do a high risk play pushing deep instead of just farming safelyreal smart niggers really play that heroascendant btw
>>585691378I do this and look like this
at this point just nerf bebop hookshot into oblivion so his other 3 abilities are allowed to do something
>>585691378no shit, a person who wont learn how to aim in a shooter game isn't going to learn macro
Okay so the update was good, the dust has settled, now can we look forward to unfucking the old guard from the powercreep of the last two major updates ?I don't think this can all be fixed with the item update either, some of them need partial or complete rework. I don't give a fuck that Mirage is viable in Night Shit, me as a normal player has no incentive to play a snoozefest that is a borderline handicap relative to other M1s in my normal games.
>TTV guy on my team>when he talks to us, here refers to us by "chat"I've never wanted to throw a game so hard before but I didn't do it holy fuck
>>585689858>Billy at his peak maxed 2 lastYou were playing Billy wrong when his 2 did max health % damage. Billy maxed 2 first every game.
>>585691372>NOOOO MY SUPER MOBILE LANE HITLER ISN'T ABLE TO ULT AND 1V6 EVERY GAME WHEN I SOMEHOW FUCK UP AND ENDED UP SAME NETWORTH AS THE ENEMY I RAPED FOR THE PAST 20 MINUTES NOOOOOSilver's non-transformed kit utterly shits on Billy's entire kit, including ult, let alone when she's getting resets
is it just me or are haze players really, really dumb? like you can bait haze players into the stupidest shit, or they just ult in the dumbest spots you can easily get to cover from, or they try to gank you while you're at full health and they're at half with a 1k bag? do these people just think their micro is going to make up for every single flawed decision they make? and it's specifically haze players who do this too compared to other M1/hypercarries, wraith players at least know to not pick a bad fight
>>585691608his hook is all he has. nerf that and he's just a worse holliday/paradox he already is a worse holliday/paradox imo
>>585687092>thoughts?heded tu bloo
PROMETHEUSYOU STOLE OUR FIRE
>>585690164It's amazing how people have faith on a Riot MMO when they can't even make content for a fighting game
>>585691685At no point did anyone ever max his 2 first just to get 8% max health as spirit damage (and even this was post-buff from 6% and then 6.5% because no one picked it)There was a week long window where streamers memed about it and then went back to maxing 3 and then 1 because they fundamentally defined how his kit worked
>>585691621actually gotta start avoiding graves, especially with ecelebs shilling tank graves. been seeing her more often unfortunately
>>585691703>lane Hitler>can barely shove wave without help
>>585691703>Silver>Super mobileShe has 2 stamina brother
>>585691872>if it wasn't for deadlock I would still be stuck playing smiteThanks god
>>585691703>Silver's non-transformed kit utterly shits on Billy's entire kit,billy schizos are nuts
>>585691930avoiding heroes unironically makes it show up more on your games
>>585691882I don't know why people are even developing MMOs anymore. There hasn't beed a single successful MMO since WoW and FFXIV. I'll give you ESO too maybe but that's it.
>>585691942With a dash on a shorter CD than Billy's that also refunds that stamina and a built in Slowing Hex to guarantee you can stay on them or fuck offor are we talking about when it resets after you turn into the mode that can 1v1 any character in the game
How do you build Abrams?
>>585692082You punch very very hard
>>585691942Your dash is on a 5 second CD when you're actually ulting which is the only time you're meant to be a tank.
>>585692082Full spirit bookbrams
>>585692082jin xuan build
>>585692082emblem, vest, pstrike
>>585692082Gun
>>585691928You are delusional and either lying right now or were stubbornly playing the hero wrong for the months long period he was one of the best characters in the game due to the T3 rising ram upgrade. People went back to maxing 3 then 1 because they took away the damage on his T3 charge and replaced it with a dogshit buff to his health. Before that it was nerfed 3 times from June to July with the switch to it buffing his HP only coming in August.
>Silver turns from mobile shooty character into instant anti melee/frontline characterThis bitch is so OP.
>>585692082Punch or Spirit. Gun was gutted long ago.How to play him: in lane you won't do shit, just try to look for a cheeky shoulder charge into your guardian or towards it. Later in the game play him as a pick character and Midboss bot. DON'T waste your ult unless you can clear most of the entire team.Abrams is kinda ass to play in the current meta and the problem is that they can't buff him too much because if you get fed you become a giga rapist.
>>585692082>go to shop>press quick buy in top right corner>buy whatever you can afford from the list on the leftthe design is not optimal, going from right to left of the menu
>Silver and Billy posters fighting over who is the worst heroGentlemen, Gentlemen, both of them are f-tier garbage
>>585692353it had to be done
>>585692349Or the one (1) month where people bothered doing it didn't define the character's entire lifespan? Are you retarded?
>>585692071>With a dash on a shorter CD than Billy'swhich travels 1/2 the distance
>>585692480
Buff Pocket
>>585692082Abrams is the #1 pick to mid boss rapist. So play punch with max charge + ult.
Must admit, Chessbro is pretty fun
>>585692480Unironically trash v/s garbage discourse, retards fighting for the worst hero place when it's already reserved for Warden
>>585692583This but shillskeleton
Billy has more sustain for pressing 3 than Silver has in her entire kit
you didn't honestly win the game if you play the following heroes:gravessilverrat kingbabawraithabrams
>>585692632Silver gets healed by being a werewolf as well as her wolf abilities Her close range damage is far better than Billy’s too
>>585692651eeeeyup... another day of honesty for dannygawds
tfw ntr'd by 4000 hour sweatgroid
>>585692607yeah true
goddamn harrow is a fucking nightmare. which dribbling gibbons on the test branch looked at this and said "duhrrrr its fine :)"
>>585692651>AbramsHe is one of the most honest characters.Also I don’t get why people bitch about Rat King, I don’t see anything annoying to deal with besides the grenade
>>585692736remember to shit talk her if she manages to lose to your giga chad team not carried by a nurse shartrrow
>>585692651Silver doesn't honestly win, you're rightshe DOUBLE honestly wins
>>585692651violetGAWDs we are vindicated
>>585692690Silver becomes a massive target as a wolf, the healing she gets is nowhere near enough to justify the increased size
>>585692651Victorbros we are so hardworking and honest. What can I say... ricing is honest hard work
If Billy is so weak how come he murders me every time I see him
>>585692736The same that looked at violet, rat king, solomon and baba said 'yes, this is a good addition to the game'
>>585692736Sorry but no one noticed that invincibility on a map wide big ass CC big damage ult is actually OP
Is Graves wearing a black dress under her uniform? like what is this general goth stuff supposed to be.
>>585692714>you are not bad, you are just badthis does not make me feel better eskay sama...
>>585692714I wish heshe would go back to valorant
>>585692714Many of those nobrain midzergers with 0 macro are probably hours>=1000 too.
>>585692857
>>585692806Victor is UNIRONICALLY honest.
>kelvin domes me as Venator>shotgun blast him against the dome wall
>>585692632She doesn't even have to get near the enemy until she ults and when she does she has bonus resists, max health healing, and a dash on a 5s cd. She can deal damage at range just fine.You're disingenuous as fuck. You're comparing her to a tank when she's the strongest melee DPS that happens to be tanky. She doesn't have to dive 1v6 to do her job, she's just capable of it. Billy has to tank and dive into the enemy to even try getting that health Silver gets for existing; he can't just kill everyone in the game in 2 seconds and then jump to the next if he's given a second of breathing room.
>"just parry billy bro">mistime the read>he's back to full hp and ammo with his free meleesyuuuuuuuuup f tier hero right there
>>585692507But it did define the hero up to CNS and the three patches where he became a throw pick retard, the 3 months people were spamming max 2 Billy is why he got nerfed and why he's not viable currently, if he still had the burst damage he used to he'd be playable, even with all the bullshit teamfight ults the new characters have.
>>585692990god i'm glad this game isn't top down
>>585692632she has a disarm, resists, a heal, and insane mobility. before that she has shex and can kill you if she lands her kick. early-mid game hero that just happens to not automatically win at minute 20 vs drooling beggar for 20 minutes that works when he finally has items
>>585692908@grok is this real
Rat king is the only new hero that isn't cancer
>>585692935Spirit is honest. Gun is dishonest
>>585693190ok that is enough baiting for today anon, here's your (you)
>>585692714I have 1k hours and I don't actually know how to play because I spent 950 hours being a lane janitor in low ranks
>>585692951>d-d-d-did he just get... 200 max hp + whatever he got off Lifestrike after I fucked up????? NOOOOOOOO NIGGERMAN PLEASE NOOOOJust dash jump backwards lol
>>585693326I have 500 hours and 400 of them are from when the game had 4 lanes
>playing Billy>see Silver>go in to attack her>she coughs a shotgun pellet towards me >transforms into omega rape form 9001>disarmed, can’t damage her at all>melted down because her claws go at Mach 10>get violently knotted>no aftercare She needs buffs guys
>>585692714>>585693410kek similarly I have ~100 hours on 4 lanes and ~20 hours since the recent map update
>>585693442It's okay because uh she had to work for her ult that she has nearly permanent uptime on and is triggered by tickling someone or her being tickled because it also builds on damage she takes and wolf form has to deal more damage than any of the melee heroes because she has to work to get in close range with her two dashes, warp stone, and the highest move speed in the game in wolf form, remember she only has two stamina, uh four actually she bought stamina mastery, but she only has four stamina.
>geist sucking and fucking 3 of us with her siphon>we’re all half health by that point>she throws a bomb down that catches all of us>ults to silence us>bombs us again and kills all threeI don’t think Geist is busted or anything, and we all played in poor positioning, but man it felt bad
>>585692714I am nearing 500 hours and I'm bronze.
>rape my lane opponents 5-0>guardian at 4 minutes>they proceed to get fed off my negroid ukrainian """"teammates"""" and comebackevery single game, win lane lose game
>>585689718Retard
why is graves dishonest when she dies by just slightly tapping her?
>>585693656>ults to silence uswtf I just learned her t2 ult "silences everyone in 25m for 3s" how did I not know that? is it all around her or a cone? wtf
>>585693804Depends on her buildActually, truth be told, every character in this game feels to ass to play against
>>585693735What would people think about consequent deaths (without getting a kill) reduced the total amount of souls that you give when dying? It would feels worse if you're trying to snowball or punish shitters in the enemy team but it be harder for negroids and feeders to ruin the game.
>>585690553If you only play submissive you will think everyone else is a leader
>>585693738Same nigga who doesn't know how Sinclair ult cd works
>>585693656>geist sucking and fucking 3 of usthis is somehow bad btw
>>585693889Consecutive, no idea how it turned into consequent.
>>585693804I>gets spammed by skullsDon’t>gets trapped by a wall the length of the Great Wall of ChinaKnow>she has echo shard so she does it againWhy>autoaim gun melts you down for existing near herPeople>throws down an ult so she can eat glue and do nothing Say>wins by doing nothing That
>>585693845I honestly don’t knowI think it’s in a circle around who she ults, to be honest
>graves babysits>she rapes new players with her kitguys i'm nooooticing the deep lore here
>>585693845Circle around her, and a lot of geist builds only go 1 point into ult until late game.
>>585690553beats killing 5 of them and then not doing anything with itI WISH we got wiped and then they let us comeback, but it's always us
>>585693138>>585692948sds
Billy should be able to stun people with light melee if he lands enough on them.
>>585694154I have enough brain damage as is
>>585693804because you could be playing mina or something this game doesn't have draft>b-but minacan't kill her skulls and has her ult cucked by ghouls yes
>>585693442No bro it’s okay because uhhhh she has 2 stamina
>>585694154That's how Crushing Fists works lil bub
>>585693889the hohol niggers would find a way around it to feed more souls to the enemy teamthe problem is cyrillic name subhumans, not the systemany functioning human being dies 6 times and goes "ok maybe i should take it slow", they are made to be drone fodder it's in their blood
>>585693249He has 0 cancer abilities, he's just tanky
Billy should have an ability where he whips out his horsecock and female characters get inflicted with fear but males get inflicted with charm if you look at it for too long.
>>585693442Uhh just don’t be near wolf silver sweaty :)
disarming hex works with melee?
>Street Brawl>15 minute matches of cancer decided entirely by who has more of the new characters>normal matches>30 minutes of cancer decided entirely by new characters>but at least you can choose your buildThis game is genuinely terrible dogshit right now
>>585694348This but unironically. I don’t get why people hate Rat King>slow>tanky but it’s just temp HP>bomb is annoying but it’s one ability out of his kit
Anons give me a new character to playSo far I queue >Warden>Lash>Venator>Bebop>Lady Geist
>>585694561Danny is fun to playAlso try Billy so you can suffer with me
>>585694558Because he wins lane by just not interacting with the lane at all and then transitions into unkillable cancer with ability spam
>>585694558it really didn't need the aimbot, it does good damage and stays there a long time, imagine if you saw a venator grenade curving mid-air towards you
>>585694638I will try them
>>585691872Isn't this just an OW situation where same game, new visuals? Z axis is what they needed
>>585694558I fucking despise his bomb
>>585692908this but Harrow?
>>585694558The tracking on his bomb is obnoxious in lane.
>>585694558>shoot rat king as vindicta>i die
>>585694667>>585694712Just use ONE dash bro
>>585692908why does /dlg/ lusts for Graves? she's 16!
Silver needs to not go from Rapemachine 9000 to wet tissue with no inbetween depending on if you're slightly ahead or slightly behind
>Seven loses lane to Rat King>game immediately over at 10m
>>585694827they would need to completely change the character for thatI don't think any amount of soft changes through balancing are going to change it
>>585694827they tried this and ended up making her human form better than the wolf form because she'd revert from wolf and instantly chunk you for like 60% with slam fire
With the larger roster, would 4 lanes even work againI guess if they place you in certain lanes based on character roll…
>>585694959They literally don'tThey just need to change a few things about her to make her more consistent instead of swingy
why do people act like Silver is the only character that's oppressive when fed when a Haze or some shit can get fed far more easily and then also transition into being a problem for the entire gamewhereas a fed silver falls off after 25m no matter what
>>585694827She just doesn’t need her wolf form to be so fucking strong. Reduce the claw RoF and tone down the self healing and it’ll be much better
>>585694962unironically her human form feels great and her wolf form feels kinda bad and it's been this way since she came outI want Silver as a normal character with a normal ult and I'd play the shit out of her
>>585694981It wasn't the roster being the issue, it was people minmaxing the soul sharing in the first 10m by pushing wave, and going to a lane that froze to get double souls every wave. At this rate 4 lanes would be a community custom thing cause Valve is not putting effort into another big map like this with all the detail.
How the fuck do you build drifter? Melee? Spirit? Gun?
Viscoos has such a fun personality I want to play him but then I remember he really has a dogshit kit that is either cubecuck, splattercuck or punch build (only good build but turned off by enemies pressing F).>(Abrams) So, what do you do?>(Viscoos) I punch people with goo.>Huh, I punch people with my fists.>We're family now.Not to mention hearing the lil' guy going "weeeee" when sliding or shouting "light melee!"
>>585695003For Haze you can just use metal skin/plated armor and CC her to deathSilver has so much mobility and self sustain it’s insane
>>585695103spirit w/ gun spike
>>585694792>dash counters rats>dash counters bomb>refuses to buy extra stamina >cries that they have to use their precious stamina to not take damage (they might need that 1 stamina for le epic schmoooovement)Huh I guess I figured out which "people" think rat king are cancer
>>585694667The only changes the bomb needs are a bigger hitbox to melee it away reliably and a faster speed when it gets meleed so you can reliably hit it away in lane without getting hit by the explosion, it would still cause mayhem on teamfights where everyone has bigger concerns and he could even get cheeky with parries if the general counterplay to it becomes to hit it rather than dashing away.
>>585694792>just buy stamina mastery first item bro
>>585695170>>585695187Hmmm…
>>585695126viscous will always be good because cube existsit doesn't matter if his other stuff is mediocre
>>585695142>For Haze you can just use metal skin/plated armor and CC her to deaththat works against s*ver too though>self sustaintry buying a healbane, l->r king
>>585695230nah
>>585695126>support, splatter, punch, gun(meme but at least possible), balli think its one of the most versatile heroes in the game. he is shit tier because they need to up his numbers overall not because of the kit.
>>585694827That's basically every character in the game that doesn't rely on pure utility, because they're the only ones universally good. But the others don't get a free win early game that sets them up to be ahead
>>585695237I thought claws were melee. Does metal skin/armor work against it?
>>585694827She's never been a rapemachine, she's trash now and was mid at best previously. >>585695003Because Silver counters op bullshit heroes like Haze and the Haze downplayers pretend that's a bad thing.
>>585695142you can also buy plated against silver though and unlike haze it's not viable to build armor piercing on her?
>>585694810out of 10!
>>585694792one dash for every bounce? during a team fight? if you think his grenade is okay you are retarded and need to let the big boys discuss balance
>just noticed ratkings 1 is a little rat made of scrapmost soulful character in the game truly
>>585695341Claws are just gun damage, the only melee damage she has in wolf form is 1 and 2.
Graves is honest
Fact:Silver should not get an instant counter form for coughing up 1 damage and nuking a front liner. It is bad design
>>585695341Claws are gun so metal skin stops them as does disarm and plated
if Mina really wanted to be a Fairfax, why won't she just rape Pocket? after getting impregnated, she just needs to wait 9 months and she can go to Fairfax HQ and tell Arin's dad that the little nigga she has is Arin Jr.
>>585695367>>585695237Haze downplayers are extremely disingenuous, just like wraith downplayers.
>>585695439-ly not honest
>>585695341>I thought claws were melee.Look, I'm not trying to be elitist or anything but holy FUCK niggerThe least you could do is read up about the hero you're calling overpowered before you go ahead and do it
Yup, I've officially had enough of all the new characters making up 50% of the characters in the game and the rest of the cast being utterly fucking worthless minions. Fuck this
I miss the broker
Silver could have all her nerfs reverted and she'd be almost 75% as strong as the current S tier heroes
>>585695439-ly really good in bed
>>585695607>make whole new fully voiced character with a special UI menu and mechanics>keep it for 2 days for shits and giggles>take 2+ years to update models of old heroes when fan mods do it in a monthwhat did Yoshi mean by this?
>>585695685just give her +1 stamina and fix her bugs
Guys, is Seven better with the ball build or ult build?
>>585695756stun build
>>585695756Ult is countered to hell and is a giant “PLEASE USE KNOCKDOWN ON ME” buttonBall build is better
>tfw refuse to use the tunnel when playing Rat King
I've come to the realization that the hardest parts of ranked are in Tier VI and Tier I of every bracket. This is because you have the hardstuck shitters who got coincidentally carried up there that constantly oscillate between these two ranks unable to climb but unable to derank either due to rank shields shitting up every lobby. You just have to play enough to not get stuck with them and then you keep climbing if you aren't god awful
>really good macro and game sense>fucked by bad eyes and slow reflexes>it's getting worse at 29 years oldA-at least I got to Eternus by being a lane janny/sinner stealer Rem h-haha!
>>585695415>i-is that a slowly bouncing grenade???>I-I CANT MELEE IT!>I-I CANT DASH!>I-I CANT WALK AWAY!>IEEEEEEEEE YOSHI SAMA PLEASE NERF!!!
pinching the tip of Silver's cookie and pulling it really hard
>>585695841FUCK UNCLES!
>>585695841You youngcat don’t know how bad it’ll gett. 33
yet to see a rat nigger dodging all bounces
Silver needs to be strong at all times, she's designed to counter annoying faggot heroes and if she's weak the game becomes worse
>>585695756I do ball into ult
>>585695990What flavor cookie is it?
>>585682910climbed from low oracle to ascendant>15 win requirement is abysmal dogshit and disincentivizes learning new characters>shields gotta go. maybe like 1 shield per rank and 3 shields per division. 2/5 is fucking demented and results in shitters that don't belong in your matches being in your matches>swapping off characters is really cancer, you should not be able to q as your hard counter and then swap to your preferred character. just add a real draft>more bans>kill new heroes
>>585695961>melee it>it's range is so huge it doesn't actually clear distance before exploding>immediately bounces back to you anyway
>>585696121Who counters the annoying fag hero who counters the annoying fag heroes?
>>585696136it tastes kinda salty with a sweet aftertaste if that's what you're asking
Rat Kings grenade bounces towards creeps and towers just as likely as heroes, if you get hit more than once in lane by it you're retarded, just use your stamina for a dash, no one cares about epic schmoovement minmaxing
>>58568291010 days until item update!
you guys only like Graves because she is dumb enough to get tricked into having sex
>>585682910I never even got to comp. I just play street brawl and occasionally standard with friends.The 15 win requirement is too daunting for a solo player like me
I bet she fingers herself with lich hand
>>585696045sounds like a (You) issuethe only thing worse is my diminishing motivation to playt. 34
>>585696234Having above 100 iq and playing with the team (insurmountable task for the "people" playing op bullshit fag heroes)
>>585696161I like the win requirement, nothing is more annoying in Dota or even League than someone first timing characters in ranked. If anything people are weirdly hostile to just playing standard/casual to unlock new ones. Its like hearing 3+ stacks wanting to play together, being told just play standard, and complaining they instead want to just do ranked regardless of problems stacks in these games cause.
>>585695961yep you can't melee it for any effectstop posting
>>585694827Silver is fine, her issue is that the matchmaker treats her as a frontliner when she is more of a pick character.>she is supposed to buy util, jump in and displace a target>the ult is there to make her a problem in teamfights even though she built util slop for her teamIf Silver got re-classified and balanced around being a pick support, it would automatically solve the issue where you feel like absolute ass because your team actually has a dogshit draft.
>>585696393I think 5-10 wins would be more reasonable. 15 is too much
>>585696353reflexes are supposed to peak at 35 so i guess youll find out soon enough
>>585696472She's always been a ganker/pick hero that got classified as a frontliner/carry for some bizarre reason Also she needs buffs
>>585696557I’m 37 and I don’t have much issue. Granted I’d never be some CS:GO adderall champion but I can play fine. It’s unironically a (You) issue if you can’t react
>>585696472yeah the draft really does fuck her over more than other charactersit sucks because playing her as a pick character feels really good if you do sup duration with max 3 and slow hex
>>585696648i'm just repeating what i saw a few years ago but it was old research. you'll be the first generation that grew up playing video game so maybe reflexes won't diminish as badly? someone really should do a new study
>>585695841nigga i'm 47 and can confirm every soul
>low prio game>graves on the other team
Abrams needs buffs
>>585696709if lebron can play in the nba at 45 or whatever i can play games at 34
>switch to spamming danny cause he's super fun but still havent settled on a build>check the official valve discord channel to see what people are saying about him>they are trying to figure out a way to make him just a gunslop character that stands on the ground instead of flyingbro...... what is wrong with these gay m1gga retards
>all these oldfagsUncwatch god damnis turning 30 as bad as they say
>>585696791i don't know how to tell you this...
>>585696393standard is a hellhole precisely because 50% of the players there are tryharding to get characters in ranked, and the other 50% are just goofing off/trying to learn the gameand the requirement doesn't stop someone on your team from just going 2/15 because they're horrible at their characterit needs to be 5 wins at most. if you don't understand a character after winning 5 times then you're just mentally handicapped
Is this the perfect Wraith build?
>>585695841I'm 29 and my aim and reactions have never been better somehowHelps that I'm a lifelong fps player and physically active
>>585696857no your 30s are when it gets fun if you have your shit in orderhave a job, friends etc
>>585696857it's finethe people that bitch about turning 30 are the ones that broke their bodies in their 20s
>>585696857hangovers are way worse than in your 20sjoints start to creak a bit and you heal slowerother than that it's not too bad, just stay active
>>585696472She sucks at being a pick character too albeit.Because every other pick character brings more mobility than her or is capable of getting their pick almost instantly (ie, Calico) or they bring their pick to their team with little to no risk (Bebop, Paradox, Holiday)Meanwhile with Silver you have to waste time itemizing for not only damage but also mobility and tankyness because without all 3 one of her forms is deficient at its primary job + even after you ult they have the ability to just disengage from you can walk away except now you're worthless because you have no ult
>>585695126If you get good at ball and punch movement it doesn't matter what role you are playing.You are havin a goo'd time
>>585697094You also need to hit the whole combo to transform before they can react/escape. If you mix bola its just over, if you miss the shots from 1 its over.
>>585695126launching gooooo
Wow youre all uncs no wonder you defend this dogshit game you've forgotten what fun is
>>585697094She needs buffs, she's a pick/dive hybrid hero and she's bad at both due to nerfs.Both her human damage and wolf survivability needs buffs.
>>585697228what games do you like
>>585697247The last thing she needs is more survivability, she’s a pick character who morphs into a frontline with both crazy movement and damage output. She needs to be neutered hard
Flopping tranny deadcock.
>>585696916your reflexes don't get worse until your 50s IIRC obviously being physically active helps with that
>>585697228i told you bro, it's either jaded boomers or zoomers ITT with no in between
I hate when people pick easy heroes but do bad on them.>mo and krill on my team keeps dying alone instead of just walking with me (venator at 30k souls in 20 minutes)MOTHERFUCKER JUST WALK WITH ME AND ULT THE FIRST FAGGOT YOU SEE
>>585697094Her being worse at pickoffs is fine though because her 1v1 potential is higher thanks to the ult.
Best heroes for street brawl?
>>585697228People unironically yearn for the Riot copycat that removes silence, stuns and active items.
>>585697381easy heroes ELO Boost bad playersthey're still bad and make bad decisions
>>585697425Danny and Lash
>enemy team got Yamato, Abrams, Baba and Billy>buy Rebuttal as my second item>get hit with hackusations the moment the fuckers leave lane trying to get mePeople is fucking stupid. Also Yamato players are always the first to give up and just feed like a motherfucker.
>>585697430I yearn for it so all mouthbreathers flock to it and leave the rest of us alone
>people bitching about Rat King’s bomb but ignoring Celeste’s 3Tranny agenda…
>>585697425Lash, Dynamo, Solomon, Baba, Violet, Bebop, Paige, Seven.Basically anybody with a huge lane occupying ult and shit to spam down the lane
>>585697425any of the aoe ultslop heroes
>>585696962>if you have your shit in orderoops!
>>585697476rebuttal is unironically the most overstatted item in the game and it's so funny people don't buy it
>>585697424>Her being worse at pickoffs is fine though because her 1v1 potential is higher thanks to the ult.not even if she falls behind
>>585697553people have been bitching about celeste for the last calendar year you nigger faggot
>>585697614It can’t be that bad. So long as you’re not homeless or almost homeless, and aren’t drowning in debt you’re fine.
>Play a Tank or Support>Win Game>Play a Carry or Pick-Hero>Lose GameHmm... I'm starting to notice a pattern here...
>>585696962I still have 2 whole years to "get my shit in order"It'll be fine~
>Have the urge to play deadlock on victor>Two games in a row with baba on the enemy team>Spirit geist in my last game who soaks up all the farm and has zero KP while the enemy has rat king + baba + dannyI didn't realise the ranked system could get worse until these new heroes came outWho are you niggers banning once its possible? For me it has to be Baba, even if they gut her kit again and again its so just fundamentally broken that it will come back alive like with ShivShe is shiv 2.0
>>585697317She's dogshit and needs huge buffs
>>585697665gonna blow my savings on Deadlock Lootboxes inna minute
why does low elo struggle so hard against victor? just buy antiheal and silence lol?
>>585697757Nobody ganks with purpose in low rank, so Victor can just afk farm until he is unkillable
i just found out about the secret chinese tech for lash
>>585697757kiting, counterbuying, and playing around ult timing is hard for beginners
>>585697714I will ban nurse probably. Maybe danny if I somehow decide I'm not playing him any more.Nurse because she breaks the game with cringe healing in lane and out of it while steal having an AOE slop ult my teammates will never be smart enough to play around.Danny because I dont want anyone to have fun and I cant aim so he'll never fall out of the sky.
>>585697757they don't have movement so he just runs at them with the aura and hits them point blank with his 1
>>585697894>playing around ult timing is hard for beginnersThis game's ultimates are on wayyyy too short a cooldown and there are multiple ways to decrease the cooldowns to the point where they have them every fight tho
>load into a game on my lowest prio hero >team is full spirit>they have Baba>all my gun heroes are picked or bannedTAHNKS MATCHMAKER WHAT A LOVELY GAME THAT WAS
>this one Billy playing anon conplaining about Silver kicking his teeth in>>585693442Her claws are slow as shit without stacks, kite her you dummyBetter yet don't duel Silver as fucking Billy when she has ult
>>585697476>buy rebuttal>still can't parry shitIt should extend the actual parry window
>>585697992i meant them playing around victor's ult, knowing to get in his jungle when it's on cd.
>>585697993Just have more gun heroes
>>585693442Have you tried not being bad?
>>585697652The problem with her falling behind is that she is classified with frontlines, so now your issue is that instead of having a really weak frontliner, you now have an underfarmed weak frontliner. If your team had something like Abrams, Yamato and Silver, this would be much less of an issue.Anyhow, a lot of the complaints about Silver aren't real, she has the biggest downplayers in dlg. Mina has a lot of the same issues (2 stam, needing to stay ahead to do well, hard to pilot), but no one says she needs buffs.
>>585698051>DONT GO NEAR HEROH OKAY BRO>LA DE DA LE DA IM WALKING IN MY LANE>OH NO A SILVER, LET ME FIGHT HER>WAAAAIIIIIIIIT SHE HAS HER ULTOH BOY I CAN JUST ESCAPE WITH MY 2 AND >NOOOOOPRSHE TACKLES YOU AND MELTS YOUR HEALTHMY BAD I SHOJLD HAVE JSUR FUCKING UNINSTALLED OR UNSTUCKED MY CHARACTER WHEN SILVER IS IN THE MATCH SORRYYYYYYYYOU FUCKING RETARD WHAT ARE YOU SAYING?>”BRO DONT EXIST WHEN SILVER IS IN THE GAME XDDD”NEWSFLASH RETARD I AM FRONTLINE WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO? SNIPE HER???
erm billyfags this is embarrassing
>>585698261No one is downplaying Silver, she's genuinely trash and has been for months.
>average Billy player lashes out like a tardSasuga… Billyfags…
>>585698051>billy >kiting a transformed silverwtf am i reading
>>585697992I think base cooldowns are fine for 90% of characters but the CDR items are quite strong and exist at all stages of game. Compress into Superior into Transcendent. Its even less how strong they are, but how much farm is on the map so its easily acquirable. I do like how no one is truly poor as fuck though
>>585698279Use your 3 stam and movement spell to get away from the hero that can only 1v1.Or better yet, play with your team you fucking retard.
>>585679583stage hand ulti will be the hand flying loose and possessing an enemy player
>>585698441member when the cooldown item family were all +5% better?
>>585698058rebuttal means you can just parry again if you miss so it doesn't matter
Just watch John Deadlock eat a comms ban in street brawl cause he had a she/they on his team
>>585682910I mostly hate the ranked update because it limits what heroes I can play and the quality of standard games went to shit
>>585698532They also worked on charged abilities and items baseline.
>>585698349She has a higher winrate than Shiv and Mina in basically every skill bracket. People are 100% by the numbers downplaying her.
I genuinely hate playing carries because I suddenly have to fight 5 starving pigs for every soul on the map
>>585698676who?
>>585697992every ult's CD went up in a patch this yearand they're quite long actually, Dynamo's ult is a 250 second CD, Enigma's ult in Dota 2 is 180/170/160 second CD
>>585698726>limits what heroes you can play>Except the new heroes yup baba dominating every game she is in adds to the ranked experienceNext time just make the new heroes standard only, at the very least it gives you an excuse to play standard
Patch today
Look lil nigga just fucking buy silence of some kind and knockdown and stop bitching>”waaahh but my L>R 50k soul core”cope, buy cc or zip it
>>58569878311 starving pigs
>>585697679sex with grown up rem (after molesting child rem)
>>585688996Yea that makes sense, I don't have issues with Violet, she seems strong but not overly strongWe shouldn't nerf every fucking hero to uselessness so we're stuck with the same ~8 heroes being perma meta for all eternity
suppressor literally turns Silver off in lane btw
>>585699204suppressor is amazing against any gun character in lane
i will not eat the bats
>>585699082factsamurai women should be tall
>>585699296plap plap plap plap plap *-210hp*
>>585698051>kiting Silverlol>don't duel someone as the character whose entire fucking identity at one point was 'the' duel character to chained 1v1s in teamfights as much as possibleNo way you're complaining about the character when they literally outduel duelists with zero exceptions
>>585675343>>585675265>aiiiieeeee each update makes the game worse>games reaches new peeks with more players and better retention each timeummmmm
>>585698279>this is the kind of player that thinks Silver is brokenHow many hours of playtime do you have?>>585698429Yes? Kiting and movement is universal with some obvious exceptions like Danny, Celeste and Calico
does drifter also have a bat form
>>585699285silver doesnt build firerate
came in to ask if we agree that billy is bad and needs buffs and I see there's 54 fucking mentions in the threadbilly needs something bad. I've been playing him and baba and the difference is night and day
I wish I could aim, I want to play paradox and gun niggas
>>585699360i was talking about the stupid healing items they placed in dumb spots on the map.not learning where they are or using them.
>>585698886John Deadlock
>>585699649same bro! except there's one spot on the side lanes that are two right next to each other and that's basically like a free healing troop for a 15 second detour and two walljumps
>>585699523yes, but it's rogue the bat so he doesn't use it because it's embarassing
>>585699686never heard of xem
New>>585699760>>585699760>>585699760
>>585699528I don't understand your implication
>>585699395>billy movement advantage+1 stam>silver movement advantagegapcloser has half the cd baseline, permanent ms buff and no slowdown on attackingAny silver that gets kited by billy in a 1v1 must have motor neuron disease or something.
>>585698263good stuff, dump full version here ploz?
>>585699575Yeh he's not in a good spot, even in the shitter ranks he can't break 50% and in eternus he's competing for last place.
>>585696852His current weakness is late game when the gun carries come to life and can melt the slow moving, exposed aerial target in 2s. So I assume they are trying to find a way to transition to a stronger grounded gun game late so he can stay relevant there, while keeping his strong early and mid spirit focused game.
>>585697679In my opinion current Rem only stands on hind legs because his body weight allows for it and because he is aping the people he interacts with. If Rem does indeed grow larger and at the same proportion as humans, I think he won't be bipedal any longer as his leg structure can't handle supporting more weight vertically
>>585701091He's a gryphon so probablyThey just made him bipedal so he's easier to animate. Bad sign for them ever getting experimental and actually trying to add a quadrupedal/unqiue body shape hero to the game, but if those spider leaks were in any way true might be wrong on that
>fighting 4/6 for a minute straight>blue wave was pushed up before the fight>NOBODY attacks blue walkerwhyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
>>585683919so now you're eating mine damage, gg ez bozo
>>585701091god fully grown gryphon rem would be so fucking hot I'd suck his big felid cock
holy fuck violet needs complete reworksthat is NOT the same line of sight that billy getscompletely retarded
>>585703771is there even any point in playing the game in this state
>>585703771it is though and you can easily test it in sandbox
>>585693442Try not 1v1ing the 1v1 rape machine
>>585704827no its not lol
