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>Latest patch:
https://www.playdeadlock.com/cityneversleeps

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki/
>Collection of useful character builds
https://deadlockmeta.com/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
https://deadlock-api.com/
>Unofficial CompetitiveNews
https://edl.gg/
https://www.deadfrag.com/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

Threadlocked: >>585699760
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APOLIGIZE
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It would be better if Graves was a boy I think
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Deadlock is severely missing a BBW.
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They should release a patch where they only buff Silver so she's the strongest hero in the game
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As an early bird Ivy is still the best hero in the game, sorry generic waifukeks
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>>585728505
McGinnis is our BBW (Big Butch Wrenchmonkey)
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which heroes should I play if I enjoy shooting the candle guys more than other players?
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>>585728440
>robbed of a cute emo shota for venator to apply correction
great now im pissed
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How does one farm efficiently on Viktor? Playing him kind of feels like playing Wraith King but without any built in healing I feel like I get raped by the jungle and farming lane doesn't seem efficient enough to carry the team. Doesn't help that I play often with a guy who loves to deathball and gets mad when I don't contribute to them though. I've mostly been getting by purchasing egg and cultist sacrifice like some bootleg Midas/Radiance purchase on WK

Reposting cause I would like some advice, though realistically I imagine it's "don't play Viktor if you think you're going to spend your time fighting"
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I tried to hold off the enemy team while my team was fighting midboss. I even told them I'd hold them off. I died in like 3 seconds (there were at least 5 maybe all 6 there) and they all made it into midboss anyway. We got all 3 rejuvs and wiped them though but I was pretty embarrassed.
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>have a shit game
>decide to not push anything and instead clear the entire jungle and defend lanes
>comeback and win
it's that simple
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I wish gun McG was viable and not a throw
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>>585728816
you can use your 1 and your 2 while farming jungle, it's not a crime.
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>>585728736
Seven plays the game in PVE mode until like 30 minutes in
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>>585728736
venator except when you have your ult then you should be looking for a pick
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>>585728530
I unironically support this
Silver should always be a strong hero because she's a pure skill check and playing against Silver forces you to use your head
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>>585728891
It doesn't really feel like enough. Maybe I should just all-in on egg + cultist and afk until 40 minutes
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Woah, russians be upon ye.
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Do these ragequitting faggots get any penalties in this game?
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>>585728318
Violet is the new queen of /dlg/ (happily married to the first queen of /dlg/, Silver)
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>>585729249
if enough people in the match report them yes

most people can't be bothered to report
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Harrow if she were 10% more sexy
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>>585728440
That is why Apollo exists, for people like you.
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>>585729249
yes they get put into low priority with other leavers
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>>585729249
>standard
Unironically half those aren't rage quits. Its people who've crashed three or four times this session saying fuck it I'm sick of this dogshit game.
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can i get feedback on this bebop build
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>>585728736
Paige
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>>585729405
Get a better computer
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>>585729476
Remove all the spirit slop asides spirit strike and maybe arctic blast
Buy more util like slowing hex, knockdown
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>>585729476
no
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>>585729549
I've got a sixteen gig card and a 5900x cpu, it's their dogshit VFX memory leaking issues that got ten times worse with all the new heros
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christmas cake
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>>585729476
>warpstone
Just get better at hooks
And more regen like radiant regen or something
You shouldn't be building that much spirit if you are relying on gun
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brehs I am actually going insane, I've been in a never ending 50/50 loop. I started this game 2 weeks ago and I am really fucking confused with the matchmaking, some games its balanced with both teams have the same game knowledge and shit and the other there are enemies who does those youtube videos where a character just flies all over the map doing those movement shit like how am I even in this lobby? I don't know to do those shit yet
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>>585729370
not the same
>>585728792
you see the vision
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>>585729647
Game works flawlessly for me
Got any mods? Are you on Linux?
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Get used to it, even in ranked it doesn't get any better.
The MM update can't come fast enough.
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>>585727009
Personally expecting cosmetics system to soft launch with the seasonal cosmetics they do, like the Christmas hats.
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>>585729920
>>585729815
Whoops
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how aim dependent is vyper? my aim is mid as fuck but i wanna pick her up. i figure i need decent tracking but her gun is so inaccurate im wondering how much actual aim matters.
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>>585729784
Im not relying on gun, this is hybrid
I could swap warpstone for counterspell
>>585729603
I change mystic slow for hex if they have 2 or more heroes with free escapes like mina or wraith
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>>585730071
>how aim dependent is vyper?
A lot, maybe one of the most aim dependant heros right now. You can still make it work with mid aim but it will be pretty noticeable how much potential damage you're losing.
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Keep fighting, Maurice!
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This has been working out well for me, but anything I could be doing better? Nearly always grab beam around toxic/warp.
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>>585729476
comically expensive your real-match budget is like 20-30k
>weight shots on post-nerf bebop
no.
>SoP *and* spirit snatch
no.
>escalating exposure + toxic bullets
no.
>arctic blast *and* capacitor
no.
>mystic slow
just kinda unnecessary i think
>juggernaut
ditch it, that's a slot-locked contextual buy for the most part
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>>585730173
fuck, okay well thanks. i'll have to think of some other gun based carry to play when someone plays baba and im on victor
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not so fast, buddy
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My three purples on viper? Raiden regeneration, superior duration and mystic slow/lighting scroll.
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>>585730369
Does it need to be gun? Just play Infernus and max his running skill. Wraith and Haze are also babymode as long as you don't feed.
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>>585730596
imo yes, ive had a few games where i get a full spirit team against baba with me as victor and its just unplayable to play -200 spirit as spirit victor

don't really wanna end up in that situation though valve might be nerfing baba heavy
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>>585729647
just you, i've got way worse specs and it works on my machine.
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I think harrow and rat king are gonna stay on my pool permanently. I don't really fuck with the rest except maybe Danny, but I struggle to land his charged shots from the air.
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>enemy drifters
>gets fed early and start successfully 1v1 everyone, goes 25 kill streak and ends with 30/4
>my drifters
>professional retard who somehow goes 0/5 in lane, get jumped in the enemy jungle, ends with 2/26
aaaaaaaAAAAAAAHHH
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>>585728792
Venator has rem at least
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experienced anons, what do i do in games its impossible to do anything because my teammates don't know how to push lanes?
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BUY ANTI HEAL
FOCUS HARROW
BUY ANTI HEAL
FOCUS HARROW
BUY ANTI HEAL
FOCUS HARROW
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>>585731265
Try asking them to do it
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>>585731296
Buy Ricochet and go farm 20 minutes, got it.
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I am enjoying this game before cosmetics utterly rape it.
Until then, I will play.
Once cosmetics are added I shall dip.
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>>585731575
>he doesn't want to play as snowglobe paradox
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>>585731296
That's what I've been saying
Simply trading or poking against a Harrow isn't going to cut it
She's designed for battles of attrition
You either need to run her down asap or force her out of position
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yep, that's two losses in a row. what's even the point. fuck this game
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>just jump the harrow hiding behind 4 teammates with unstop, curse and ult
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>>585731752
you wouldn't last 5 seconds in the tunnels
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>nooooo you can't have a surrender option because... YOU JUST CAN'T OK?
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>>585729103
>use your head
you mean buy literally any counter item aside from counterspell and spirit sap?
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>>585731804
your flying heroes? your drifter and calico?
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>>585731847
Surrender button would actually kill the game I'm not kidding. You have LoL, Overwatch, and Rivals players migrating en masse who would surrender at like, a mild inconvenience.
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>>585731804
The humble bebop hook:
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>>585731804
At that point you're in the late game so you should have items yourself and the capabilities of making your own decisions based on the situation
Yamato's a particular pain in the ass given how little mobility outside of dashing she has
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>>585731752
>lose two coin flips in a row
>blow my balls off
yeah fuck this life
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CBA ANYMORE
PEDOPHILES AND RUSSIANS EVERY GAME
ABRAMS GOES TO ROAM WHILE WE'RE PUSHED UNDER GUARDIAN
TEAM CALLS MIDBOSS WHEN ALL 6 ARE ALIVE, REFUSES TO GET OFF
HARROW DOESN'T ULT
SILVER ON MY TEAM
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>>585730071
She's honestly not that bad. As long as you can hit your daggers and ult, she's fine. Bodyshots build up venom so you can spray n pray and it's not the end of the world.

She's easier than Holliday, Geist, and Mirage by virtue of being full-auto.
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na is getting absolutely washed by eu, what the fuck is going on
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>>585731882
Yes, Silver forces people to think about counters and most people are retarded so...
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>>585731273
ok maybe Violet voters are a LITTLE cute...
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>>585732073
>SILVER ON MY TEAM
truly the biggest throw
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I want to farm all game and by 57 minute mark I buy all my items and end the game, any heroes like anti-mage that I can play?
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>>585731273
anyone got the webm like this but with graves and lady geist it was posted here before
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What happened to Lightning Scroll? I miss his bingo vids
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>>585732218
Wraith, Victor
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I build Bullet Resist Shredder and Mystic Slow on Kelvin everygame.
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>>585732218
Victor
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>>585731575
Halloween and Christmas cosmetics are already a thing
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Snowballing out of control
Ending games early with snowballing! Mouth to mouth!
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>>585732434
victor might be the best filter this game has. If you can't handle a fed victor your shit. Simple as
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Why is Abrams ult on a 5 year long cooldown?
It's not even THAT good
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>>585732218
Wraith 100%
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You guys can't even FATHOM what's coming in the next update...
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>>585732218
once upon a time, seven
wraith is killable so she has to have a semblance of a team
victor however fits that to a T
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>>585732075
i've played a lot of shiv so hitting the knives is trivial, i can do projectile aiming but like bullet aiming im just not decade of shooters level of aim so i feel as thouhg its wasted potential. its fine, i get like 60% acc on gun heroes but i suspect that is misleading. i guess the only way to know is to try her out
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>>585732218
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Member when aoeslop ults were balanced, took effort to use, and had actual counterplay, like Seven, Abrams, Lash, Bebop, Billy, Infernus...
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I have solved abrams.
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>>585732676
slork is completely dead, stop fronting cuh
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>>585732628
Power creep victim.
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>>585732628
because it's that good
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>>585732747
lash has no counterplay and is a massive cancer enabler
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>>585732628
He's just Victor but shit.
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>>585732628
Unstoppable at tier 3 + stun which'll let you throw haymakers left and right
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seven is cursed i literally cant win on him
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How do I ping a rift that's still forming (doesn't show up on the minimap)?
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>>585731680
someone needs to edit this but with harrow instead.
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>>585731847
Only faggots surrender
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*ignores healer hero*
wtf y ppl get heal doe?
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>>585732758
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>>585732926
that hero is kind of total ass right now
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Trying to kill Wraith as Danny's hard, those cards are AA batteries
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>>585732758
>Slork is kill
no....
What about my boy?
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>>585731963
you can surrender in overwatch?
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>>585730189
>toxic bullets
>on a character who arguably should just pretend she does no damage so that she can healbot endlessly
I'm not sure why you want that
>extra regen
>on a character with like 100
Seems unnecessary
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>repostin'
>billy was weak
>got buffed and became über meta
>map change + new heroes come out
>billy is weak again
idk buff his base HP? He's such a borderline character that can easily become super OP. Atleast he's fun and skillful.
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>>585733097
he's not
im doing top damage every game its just that my team builds up such a huge deficit that i get fucked
the enemy can just single me out and they win for free
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>>585732937
Contextual ping the rift itself when looking at it.
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Shooting medics is illegal so I need to pick a character that wouldn't care about that in the first place. I can't do that as Holliday.
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>>585728553
Ivy was the original chungus reddit
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>>585733107
>harrow opens her clothes instead of her bag
>it's a charm not a fear now
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>>585732845
Awwwww im sorry, is using counterspell too hard for you?
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>>585728429
For? Cumdump was always attractive, she's still boring with a gratting voice and boring kit.
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>>585732550
what build for this gay hero
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i think there needs to be a separate tab for "counter" items
i cant read all dis shit ONG FRFR
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Think I'm done playing Geist, I can't get any value out of her gun and it takes too long to get online compared to other M1s.
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You got sand in your eyes!
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>>585733178
Melee characters will always be feast or famine. At least Abrams and Venator can guarantee a melee. For Billy it's always a guess, and a wrong guess means you're fucking dead.
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How would you give rat kang actual skill expression? Even Abrams needs some braincells to look for charge angles or play parry mind games.
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>>585732073
>>585732212
why do silvertards love to act like victims, shes not that bad at all, theres plenty of more useless shitters in the game
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HERE'S SAND IN YOUR EYE
HERE'S ICE IN YOUR EYE
HERE'S LIGHTNING IN YOUR EYE
HERE'S VENOM IN YOUR EYE
HERE'S BULLETS IN YOUR EYE
HERE'S SCARABS IN YOUR EYE
HERE'S SYRINGES IN YOUR EYE
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>>585733465
Damn Straight.
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>>585733465
Over half those heroes in dishonest scum tier are actual grief throw picks
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>>585733169
You need the regen early in lane, you sell it later
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and it's about to be three in a row
fuck this bullshit game
it doesn't matter what I do
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ummmmmmmm so when do the big titty anime heros come out?
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>>585733123
Joe Biden is in the next update. Trust the plan.
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>inconsistent grenade that will never be buffed because "muh base kit anti heal"
>worst uptime of any anti heal in the entire game
>inconsistent stun that will never be buffed because "aiiieee i can't follow him into enclosed areas on the map without any enclosed areas"
>it's also just an objectively worse version of still life
>inconsistent trap that will never be buffed despite being one of the worst abilities in the game
>it's also just an objectively worse version of graves wall or gt snare
>good ult that people want nerfed because "muh execute"
>lowest execute threshold in the entire game
SAY HIS NAME
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>>585733465
>mirage and warden in dishonest
Those are genuinely the worst characters in the game
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>>585733754
harrow is right there
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>>585732716
>heded to bloo
pure kino
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>>585733543
Play silver and find out yourself
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>>585732974
A quick edit's already been made
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there's something severely wrong with matchmaking, if I pick a pos1 like venator I'm always queued with the most worthless retards imaginable that I'm not capable of carrying, if I pick anything else they usually know what they're doing and don't incessantly feed
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HOW DO I BUILD IN THIS GAME
THERE IS SO MANY ITEMS
ARGHHHHH
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>>585733754
After the negative reception to Violet? Never.
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no commentary needed.
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>>585733169
You start with 0 regen and you build into healing booster which builds into healing tempo. Why wouldn't you buy extra regen?
You are right about toxic bullets. I tried shooting people but then my teammates die if I dont pocket heal them so toxic is actually doing nothing.
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>>585733938
Violet's neither big tittied nor anime
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>>585733754
You got Paige already
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How do I parry?
I legit have never intentionally parried someone in hundreds of hours.
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>>585732218
Warden should have been out Antimage with a kit full of spirit disables.
Just say no to magic, what it's gonna do?
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>>585733193
bricklo detected, that hero is a complete victim hence why you are getting singled out, because that hero sucks
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>>585734040
>nor anime
Then what about her big ol', thick ol' eyebrows
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lomein had 22 win streak in solo ranked with baba and i watched him 2 shot a rem from full hp
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>>585733169
Toxic bullet's great for those times you don't actually have to be a heal bot
Hell it's even allowed me to comfortably duel Rat Kings due to them not having enough damage to counteract my regen
It's not a must have by any stretch, but if the enemy team has a lot of bulky heroes/healing, you'll definitely want one
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>>585734134
Press F in the middle of a clusterfuck teamfight and you're guaranteed to hit someone
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>>585734134
press F when people are in your face
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>>585733849
shes one of my 8 characters with 15 wins, I agree that she is a little on the weak side but guys act like shes Mirage (real biggest shitter)
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I only have two more guards left before I rank down
the new map and characters ruined this game
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>>585733961
r8 mine lmao
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What kinda swimsuit would be the best for paradox?
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>>585734134
For heavy punches get used to reacting to the sound cue instead of the animation.
For light ones you need to predict them and hope you get it right.
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>>585734379
>Rat King
Most honest dishonest character in the game
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>>585729476
buy spellbreaker nigga
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>>585734134
>ear picks up heavy melee.wav
>brain processes the sound. Determines it is a heavy melee
>activates motor neurons to press the F key
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>>585734478
>>ear picks up heavy melee.wav
you lost me
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>>585734407
slingshot
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>>585733370
Cum
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>>585734232
i did 7k damage at 10 minutes against deadname trannies and dynamo and neither of them died once
this game is just bullshit
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>>585733992
Ah, forgot about that, valid.
>>585734308
If it works it works but also Harrow just doesn't strike me as a character who should be fighting duels or not being a healbot more power to you if you get the wins that way though
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>>585734134
i just press f when someone is within melee range randomly, works like 15% of the time
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>hardstuck bricklow for 2 months
>install aim trainer
>immediately start winning a lot more
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>>585728792
>>585729828
Leave the kids alone tranny
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>>585734658
I mean you're also going to want some form of damage in order to build up your 3 charges unless you're perfectly balancing it with kinetic dash, but at that point you're using all your stamina for ammo
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>>585733169
>>585733686
Cool how half the people talking about the game clearly don't even play it kek
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NERF THIS NIGGER IVY CHARACTER PLEASE GUT HER COMPLETELY SO FUCKING OP
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>>585733543
It's both the pilot and the plane, nigga
Silver just happens to also attract REALLY bad pilots
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>>585734823
trannies like /ss/ not /sm/
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>shoot full mag at apollo
>he not only takes no damage, but heals
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Have most of these players never played a MOBA before? Everytime I am healed they either abandon me during a fight we could easily win or they are getting ass raped in random locations without pinging or comming. I suck at HOTS and Deadlock but somehow I am going like 8/3/20 something and my team can't seem to stay alive for 5 minutes.
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>>585734820
>start working in one of your main skills
>get better
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
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>Aim Trainers: Downloaded
>QoL mods: installed
>Companion app: On my 2nd monitor
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Paradox is a black Scottish btw
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>>585734995
just like the good ol days after 9/11
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>anyone who does spirit damage is buying RR
Yeah this item is getting gutted lmao
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>>585735113
post end of match healing stats
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>>585734820
>>hardstuck bricklow for 2 months
>>install aim trainer
>>immediately start winning a lot more
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>>585735113
>nerf item
>people buy it more
How does it do it?
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>>585733543
>shes not that bad at all
LMAO
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>>585729314
hey thoughts on getting raped and killed and raped again in that order? asking for a furiend
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>>585734961
>like 8/3/20 something
Every game? Wow, you must be winning 60-70% of your games at least
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>>585733543
Silver is good at everything except winning matches
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yippee
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don't spread it around too much but mcginnis is the chemo for this cancer meta
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>>585735394
Congratulations but why are you black?
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Is Violet the buggiest release we've had so far?
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>enemy says gg and commends you after a rape stomp
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>>585728902
why did pre-update pocket look like he's in his early 30s
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>>585735401
It's actually Kelvin. Dome is a fantastic complement to all the broken ults, as well as being a fantastic counter to them.
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>>585733169
Extra regen builds into healing booster you mongo, and having 0 regen in lane is ass unless you want to kill yourself getting leeches in the first 20 seconds
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>streaming for mates in D*Scord
>on massive lose streak
>get Violet
>joke as I'm loading in that if I win this game I'm installing a coomer Violet skin
>win
Uh...
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>>585735540
I was surprised that didn't get posted outside of tiktok until now
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>>585735306
No, it's like 45. Granted, my friends that have never played MOBAs before did join us so it's a 5 stack, so hopefully they'll learn the game and we will have an easier time. Randoms are basically a lost cause half the time, they refuse to comm or even look at the mini map.
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>pick up one of the heal apples
>doesn't make the classic *dootdoot fitzshhp* sound
Terrible dogshit game
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>>585733169
Harrow has 22% toxic build up per shot and mid game will be firing extremely fast. Its good antiheal and decent peel.
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is drifter supposed to be a gun character, i've just been buying gun shit for him and it's been working
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how far can you really turn with abrams charge? do you have to flick like a full meter with your mouse on low sens? i can never replicate what pro players do
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>>585735670
you have to be 18 to post on this website
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I want healing mitigated and damage taken/resisted stats on the end screen card please. Make me feel better about how I play.
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I’m going to rat
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>>585734407
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>>585732716
THE PAIN'LL BE WORTH IT
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IN HERE, I AM KING
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>>585735814
i play on 800 dpi/0.7 sens, you can make a pretty sharp U with it if you're fast but yeah you need a lot of desk space for that
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>>585735765
Drifter honestly has a lot of build variety. You can build m1 fine on him however he NEEDS to be fed as fuck for it to work well. Otherwise build melee-spirit-gun nuker, or even support.
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paradox is scottish and im scottish therefore i look like paradox irl
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>>585735843
>if you're not running around with every character having their tits and ass out you're le underage
Kill yourself. I'm not asking, faggot.
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>>585732716
where the FUCK is our manta style
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Running around and hitting boxes and owls and spirit vending machines is honestly horrid gameplay
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>>585735675
>No, it's like 45.
Huh weird, are you sure you were actually like 8/3/20 something every game? I normally wouldn't question the authenticity of claims made by people who complain about their teammates online, but in certain rare cases these people are delusional emotionally immature faggots massively exaggerating (lying) to cope with their inadequacies
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How do I play this fucking guy
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>get match found sound
>but no match
>get told its in progress and to rejoin or abandon
>can't cancel queue
>can't rejoin
>abandon gives penalty
?????
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>>585735670
This isn't reddit dude, go back.

Anyways whats the best build for at king in standard, he cant do shit when 4 of my team are new to the game
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>>585735670
>streaming for mates in D*Scord
Holy fucking faggot
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>>585736074
Retard
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how involved is gabe with the game, what are his thoughts on it
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>>585736074
retard
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>have king, wraith, and harrow on team
>also have a warden
It could go either way here, folks
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>>585736197
My bad for having friends I guess?
>>585736151
>cant win with rat king in standard
Consider suicide
>>585736212
>>585736307
Genetic dead ends
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>>585736283
gabe hasn't been deeply involved in any games since half-life
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>game is another moba where everyone is a raging lunatic
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>>585733465
What makes someone honest/dishonest?
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>>585736283
He jerks off to Geist porn
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>>585736283
he's gonna fire everyone when he finds out about it
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>>585736126
Do not be a kidnapfag.
Build bell and utility with lots of actives.
DO NOT confirm kills with ult when your whole team is ready to kill them. Use your ult to banish troublesome enemies so your team can focus other people.
The single most useful, game defining thing you can do, is set up good doors for your team. Good doors are why he gets banned in higher ranks. Play sandbox a little and check out door placement spots and ranges around objectives.
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>>585732218
Victor is the answer if you are Seeker rank like all of the people replying who don't know what healbane is. The true answer is Wraith
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>kill 2 enemies, call mid
>nobody comes
>kill 3 enemies, call mid
>nobody comes
>kill 3 enemies, call mid
>nobody comes
>enemy kills two of us, they go mid
>they get mid and win the game
EVERY FUCKING GAME
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>>585736412
>hero I play = honest
>hero you play = dishonest
anyway youre replying to bait
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>>585736098
At least a majority of matches from last night were mostly losses, I don't know if I was just locked in or what but I was doing great last night. Maybe it's just recentency bias, but I feel like most matches are either I get out of team fights with all the extra stamina I buy, or I am forced to lane and don't contribute because no one else will. I'll have to check my exact winrates, I'm probably exaggerating a little.
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What do you guys want/hoping for with the item update?
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haha yeah im a tranny too
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>can easily just heal your entire team 2000hp each
Okay, how long until giga nerfs? Second time playing her and we can win every teamfight because they can't kill anyone
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>keep getting invited by rookie friends
>way above their skill level and the game accommodates for that
>they have the worst times of their life
I’m not so much of a faggot to make a Smurf but I’m starting to feel bad and they enjoy my company too much that explaining the situation is hand waved off but I can hear the pain in their voices when they get absolutely dumpstered for 20 mins straight
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>>585736503
>play with a lower mmr friend
>abrams in my lane gets parried 5 times
>i hard carry and eventually we kill them all
>spam "let's go mid, pull back, let's go mid"
>abrams ints into their base and dies
>they get mid and win the game
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>>585736618
less items
more clear build paths
obvious counterbuild items displayed in the shop
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>>585736126
you're a utility support not le ebin kidnap assassin
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>>585729732
offmodel garbage
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>*removes all russians* in your path
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>>585736126
buy spirit items and spam bells/carts
ez combo is ult somebody, position next to a wall, cart them into it when they get out for the stun, bell, and shoot
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>>585736395
wasn't it portal or portal 2 where he stepped back because he realized everyone was just yes man-ing him
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>>585736618
Suppressor upgrade path.
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FACT:
If you are good at this game and are placed in a lobby below your skill level, will you have an over 50% win rate- If you are genuinely more skilled, you'll win lane and that snowball. You may hate to learn this fact, but it is the truth.
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>>585736618
SEX
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>>585736951
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>>585736503
>>585736750
>claim mid after picks
>we're still down 10k but the entire map has farm on it and rift and urn are coming
>tell team to secure farm and do rift/urn before we do anything else
>two people immediately run it down yellow with no wave because "victor is hecking low! we can kill him!" and get collapsed by 6 and donate our rejuvs while we do rift and grab urn at green
epic
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>>585736146
I can't play the fucking game because it won't let me search until I rejoin a nonexistent match (I can't) or take the penalty to abandon it. Thanks Yoshi.
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>>585736126
Your cart stun is so fucking strong until enemy team builds Unstoppable, shut everyone down, waste a portal to throw that cart into a sevens face it’s worth it. Anvil into ult immediately is also strong.
Your job isn’t to kill everyone it’s to piss the enemy team off bad, you making them made and stunning them every single encounter is enough to win the game.
Build Bell, cart second, ult or door 3rd.
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customs @ 6:30pm est
no gentlemen rules this time like last, all new retarded characters allowed
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>>585736730
>they all get healed to full
>they all retreat except Warden and Harrow
Why is everyone so fearful?
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Is trophy collector worth rushing?
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We need more fair and honest characters like Drifter and Venator. Maybe then this game wouldn't be DOA.
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>>585736730
surprised it has lasted this long it is absurd
>what if we gave a character Kelvin max dome healing with no CD
fucking crazy balancing
if I had to guess, eventually they get rid of charges on it entirely
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baba getting her pussy nuked by abrams fist
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>>585737158
Literally depends on the character and how willing to teamfight/gank you are, although just standing with ing the same city block counts as a assist but really you should be in there
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>>585737125
Didn't we stop doing customs because it was just a handful of discord eternus setting up unbalanced teams to stomp whoever joined?
>>585737158
Well you're not going to buy it mid game are you? It shouldn't be your first item but if you're a support or roaming character you do want it as you finish lane phase.
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>>585737158
How soon is rushing? I get it as a third or fourth item to start stacking in lane
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still working on it.
Should I play Violet like a support? her CD reduction on items is kinda busted no?
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>>585736928
No, when I lose it's my team's fault. When I win it is also my team's fault.
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>>585737317
Just play her like a normal spirit character and get either knockdown, disarm or decay after your core.
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>>585737213
icefrog drags his fucking feet on changing anything, even when its egregiously overpowered
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>>585736730
What rank are you for nobody to be buying antiheal out the ass?
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>>585737158
Depends on your character and if your laning goes well or not
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>>585736730
Show this to the enemy team >>585733884
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>>585736362
Retard
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>>585737457
>put 35% antiheal on someone
>now instead of 3000 healing they receive 2000 healing
wow
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Has Metro climbed back into Eternus yet after the ranked update?
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How would you guys rework Warden
I think they should make him a fully spirit carry instead like Victor, more so now there's more than like 2 gun heroes.
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been playing shiv, is the regular spirit build generally better or the meme gun build with express shot?
ive tried the meme gun build a couple times but it sort of feels like it takes forever to actually come online and all his abilities scale with spirit anyway
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>>585736126
Build Recharging Rush and Sharpshooter, the items are basically built for the fucker, build spirit mainly and some counter greens.
>but why would I invest gun into a spirit character?
Because you land a single headshot with that pair of gun items you get another of your 700 damage “fuck you die” bells for free, that and if they build heavy spirit defense you can still do some good damage
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>>585734309
>>585734327
doesn't work
>>585734431
>>585734478
ok thanks i'm gonna train myself like a dog with a heavy melee bot
>>585734679
no thanks
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>>585736412
honesty is the ratio of skill expression to value. dishonest heroes have disproportionate value to how much your skill matters, while honest heroes are a move even 1:1 ratio
some people may use it as a synonym for annoying or cancer but it's not. for example holliday and kelvin are annoying but they're not dishonest

>>585736618
build creator improvements. i think the reason the majority of builds are l>r is because it's hard to format anything
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>>585737625
Notice how neither you nor your pic mention spirit burn.
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>>585737674
>no thanks
pros literally just jump into peoples faces and parry
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>>585737787
"Antiheal isn't real" includes spirit burn as it is an anti heal item, and it also gets cleansed by divine barrier. Hope this helps
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Sex with Apollo.
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and this is four in a row. I think I'm just going to blow my brains out
I'm not touching ranked for the rest of the season
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>>585733543
>why do silvertards love to act like victims
Because we literally are
Our hero got ruined by nerfs and upplaying niggers that LARP as pros because... uh... she's le broken bro she killed me on Wraith you can't do that!
She had a perfectly normal winrate, nothing extraordinary but those fags played her up as some guaranteed win pick so that she got nerfed and now you need to sweat your ass off and hope you can finish the game before 30 minutes on a hero that can't push if you want to win with her
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>eido is queueing graves
lmao
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>>585736618
Either more slots or some items merged together. Really feels like you're forced to get the same things and ignore the same things for every character due to how few slots you're given and how niche some things without an upgrade path are
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>>585737608
Ok Brownoid
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>>585737890
Yeah and I'm sure the enemy team has 2+ DBs.
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Can't tell which mod it is, but one of my mods has broken ability sound effects, relaunching the game 5 times sounds fucking annoying though since it always shits itself at the start
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>>585737896
Billy...
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statlocker says i play at an acolyte ii level. i havent unlocked rank yet so how accurate are these usually? should i be prepared for disappointment when i finally do placements?
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gunslop ruined deadlock
healkino is saving deadlock
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>>585737972
It will if you aren't in pooplow.
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it doesn't matter what I do. it doesn't matter what character I play. It doesn't matter what characters my team plays. It doesn't matter if we're winning for 90% of the match. I'll always fucking lose.
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drifter fucking sucks bros..
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>>585737657
hey it's sun wukong
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>>585737091
Is there any fix to this at all or do I have to eat the penalty? I literally can't play the game because it wants me to rejoin a match that doesn't exist. And if it take the penalty I'm probably banned for a few hours no? And it goes down on my account record?
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>>585737972
>>585738061
the enemy team usually has 1 but often 2+ DBs and thats not even mentioning how many will be running dispel
spirit burn hasnt been that good ever since you cant stack it anymore
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sir your standard unranked matchmaking for the evening
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>>585736928
im in losers queue and i get matched against a 6stack of turbo rapists that will converge on my immediate location as soon as i step outside of by fountain
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>>585737896
I wonder if Apollo and Abrams had a baby would it be purple.
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>>585735394
If you play Solomon then that's genuinely impressive
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>>585736126
Reminder that every single person going
>D-DON'T KIDNAP!

Is speaking against the fact that Joechuck is the only Doorman on the entire planet worth a shit and one tricked to Eternus twice with Kidnap-Man
And otherwise Doorman has a negative win rate
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>mirage tornado sends your target in the air for a measly 1 second
>gives you bullet evade
>in a meta where 90% of occultist nuke your ass with abilities anyway
wow
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>>585738001
apollo is 8+ years too old for billy
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>>585738336
>unemployed streamer one tricked to eternus all day


sir, we are employed
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>>585737732
Ah okay. So Victor would be dishonest. >>585732716
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>>585738423
Who the fuck is "we"?
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>>585736412
They're fair to fight.
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Rat king is so scary as a new player. He is always descending from the sky in street bawl while I'm taking fuck damage.
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>>585738467
why don't you get a JOB
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>>585738143
Well yeah. In a game where every other character has AOE attacks, long stuns, silence abilities. Even Drifter seems like ass.
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>>585738336
>joechuck
Shutter detected
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is there any real difference in gameplay for the first 7 ranks? I refuse to believe it
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>>585738454
>free rejuv every 2 minutes
>aoe damage ability so you don't even have to aim
yes victor is incredibly dishonest
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>>585737638
he did but he dropped back to asc 6 because he sucks. i kept getting him in my games and he makes shit calls at best and nukes the entire team mental at worst.
we had
>Ivy, Sinclair, Billy, Calico, Haze, Shiv with only Billy ult up
vs
>Violet, Echo shard McG, Harrow, Wraith, Lash, Rat King all with ults up
>comms to go mid after a pick on Violet and insists it's a super free easy midboss
>we all die in the pit because it's fucking suicidal to try and mid vs these ults
>gets mad as if we must have misplayed to lose like that
He genuinely belongs in oracle
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>>585738582
There's not any real difference for any of the ranks.
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>>585737948
retard
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>>585738562
rend and his ult are aoe slop
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>>585736618
Radiant regen removed and replaced with spell lifesteal % items.
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>>585738546
im trying man the job market sucks right now no one is hiring i got this fuck ass masters degree for nothing
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>>585738582
Probably different now due to ranked requirements but initiate used to be filled with smurfs so it was like 50% newbabs 50% Haze's going on a power trip.
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>>585738626
This game needs to get rid of shields as soon as possible.
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>"we can't do rift. they have resist"
>enemy ahead 2k
I'm going crazy
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>>585736126
The neat thing about him is that you have options that can suit your style, doors to steal their shit safely are great bells do decent damage (though they're not the nightmare nukes people are saying they are here) and cart is amazing when unstoppable isn't on, building it echo shard can and will get you called slurs you didn't even know existed. His ult is great to take out their carry for a time and though confirming a kill with it isn't always the play, you can use it to freeze them in place for a second for your team to delete them and you won't have a cooldown if they kill fast enough
Only downside is he's buggy as fuck, doors sometimes just don't place correctly if at all and I've seen his bell get ate by paradox and her wall
Either way, he's fun and eventually you learn to do a lot of wacky shit that keeps him engaging. I hope he gets a few quality of life tweaks to make him not super ass late game and i think they overdid nerfing kidnap/door escapes, but otherwise he's my favorite character in game
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why does reddit hate on my girl so much /dlg/
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>>585738660
Violet, Geist and Celeste all three die overnight
>>585738652
Brown. Oid.
>>585738752
Shields don't necessarily need to go away but they need to be scaled to your MMR
If you MMR is high, you get shields, but if its low, you get none.
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They should delete anything that inconveniences or counters me, specifically. Hire me Yoshi.
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>>585736730
I was in that game on the enemy team (no joke, I remember that MarioMeow venator never ulting a single time).
Your team did a great job peeling for you the entire game.
However, you forgot to include you acting like a little nigger in ALL chat, when our entire team called for the game to end by going afk in base.
One lucky game for you, in Casual, that must feel really good mister 48% Winrate Shallow Grave? https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198068713196
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>>585738816
Why would a high mmr player need shields?
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>>585738336
Kidnap has a time and a place, anyone saying to never do it is retarded, but it shouldn't be the only plan you have for doors
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>>585738314
i put in 30 or so games with him and i think my stats with him are above my average on other heroes but he honestly isn't that tough to play and is pretty OP
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>>585738762
I don't actually know how much resists you get and the game doesnt tell me so I assume it must be a lot.
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>>585738831
LMAO
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
( )
( )
( IN HERE. I AM KING )
( )
( )
_______________________
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>>585738934
Let's say you rank up but then lose one game to some dumb shit out of your control
It lets you stay at your rank instead of wasting time by falling back down so you can get to your real rank quicker.
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>>585738809
They are mad cause they are bad.
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>>585738979
He's OP but you need good aim to dominate the early game and most support kittens can't aim so...
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>>585738996
I FUCKED IT UP
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>>585737910
NOOOO GRAVES IS LE BAD
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>>585738996
>>585739134
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you now remember the last time Icefrog nerfed a character that has a healing skill, you do not want this to happen to Harrow.
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>>585739051
But everyone is subject to that shit happening. High mmr players are not special. If there were no shields everyone would eventually settle at their true rank anyways.
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>>585739134
Typical Kelvin players fucking up their ults
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>>585738979
laning against solomon fucking sucks
if you ever lose the bridge prepare to be fisted mercilessly as he rams his bishop under your guardian
and if you try to push in prepare to take a double barreled beatdown from bishop and rook
oh also for some reason the bishop leaves fucking landmines all over the lane for you to take damage from
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>IN HERE, I AM K- *dies*
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>lane
>drifter just does a straight up forward fully telegraphed heavy
>parry him
>he dies
>RQs in under 2m
?
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>>585738831
>>585736730
Uh oh someone got caught and privated their steam profile :)
How do you have such low winrate on some of these heroes man, it's actually ridiculous.
Fucking nigger.
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>>585738831
MiguGAWDS
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>>585739080
i suppose so, i have 73% average accuracy and 26% average headshot accuracy with him but the shotgun spread on his gun makes it pretty easy to hit shots
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>>585739210
I've not played since techies rework, what did they do to my poor omniknight?
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>>585738996
>>585739134
https://youtu.be/kJqZCa-xXvQ
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>>585739240
The point is the faster it happens, then in an ideal world, the faster you get rid of fuckhueg stomps where high mmr players are below their true ELO, leading to higher quality games. It's essentially the same reason winstreak bonuses exist, to try and "get rid" misplaced players. There should technically be "loss bonuses" too but it'd feel too bad, sadly.
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>>585739382
shallow gawds.... not like this..........
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>>585735214
exposes how good it is
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Does Kelvin ult block/protect from Harrow ult?
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>>585739504
I think if you have a big win streak and get one loss it makes sense to lose less points than a normal loss but that's a lot different from the current shield system.
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i once played against an anon who shit talked me in the thread too but it seemed tacky to out him and post his statlocker...
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>>585739573
Yes it does. Naturally my first match as Harrow puts me up agains Kelvin and Violet.
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>>585738831
LOL
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>>585735174
I unironically had 15k yesterday on fucking Wraith from RR alone.
It was a 50 minute heater but that is genuinely just stupid.
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>>585738762
meanwhile my team does rift into rat+harrow+seven ults and pings you if you don't come
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>>585739338
Fighting Kelvins in pisslow is funny because they can't party and you can just beat them to death when they ult
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>>585739728
I just wait for Violet's to ult before popping mine as Harrow
They're always very eager to use it so I just hang back in the cut with my healing needles
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>>585738831
The wardenBVLL carried and the losing team should have played around the mokrillGOD more.
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>>585739382
how is that a bad wr for soloQér?
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>>585739703
it was probably me. I'm sorry
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has anyone else started using the counter strike 2 server picker? I hate getting matched with ruskis so i swapped to NA
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I press 1 repeatedly because I am number 1!
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>high prio Harrow
>dont get her
>my team doesn't get her
>enemy doesn't get her
>she isn't even banned
what the fuck is this retarded shit man?
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remove spell lifesteal entirely
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someone redpill me on Drifter, was thinking of picking him up
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imagine victor using apollo like a fleshlight while he cries haha would that be fucked up or what
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>>585733169
extra regen builds into healing booster
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>>585739628
That is also possible but it'd (in practice) have the same effect as the demote shields. My point is the shields should exist only in situations where it prevents someone who's obviously much lower than their true rank from deranking.
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>>585739983
Same thing happened to me. I think its because my discord stack picked Paige and Rem so Yoshi didnt let me play harrow because we would have too many support heroes.
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>>585739838
kelvins never know how to have fun
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I really like Celeste's voice. Very original and different. Reminds of Labrys from Persona 4 Arena.
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yeah fuck seven im maining ratgod now
literally immortal
rate my build
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>>585739983
this happens to me all the time with Baba. I think they've started making teams "balanced" character-wise rather than just working out everyone's highest prio pick that works.
Needless to say this is retarded and doesn't work
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>watching Bricklow friend playing on controller
>everyone is just beating the shit out of each other in melee
>no abilties used, unless they fat finger
Fascinating, it’s like one of those nature documentaries
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>//<
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>>585739914
even forced 50-50 can't save this nigga
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>Avert your eyes
>Doesnt avert his eyes
>Gets feared
>"THIS CHARACTER IS BRAIN DEAD!"
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>>585740394
>avert your eyes
>it's actually just an AOE effect area and you don't have to be looking anywhere near the harrow
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>>585734354
>well, you're not allowed to complain about the second worst hero in the game
>why? because she's not the absolute worst hero in the game, duh!
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>>585740159
>cultist's instead of trophy collector
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Get the fuck out of my jungle
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>>585733169
it's been said but bears repeating: harrow has to damage enemies to get her heals back
the damage *amount* does not matter, making toxic both good for getting heals back and offers solid utility to boot
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>>585740562
>trophy
found the bricklow
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>>585740137
Wrong I always ult in team fights where we have the numbers advantage and are clearly going to win or its a situation where we are jumping some 3v1 because its really funny
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>>585740597
it's OUR jungle comrade)))
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>play brawl
>against ratnigger
>autolose
>play brawl again
>against a 4 stack of ult combo niggers
Every single time I play this shit mode I don't have a good time
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>>585740530
>He did not avert his eyes
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>>585740549
>the second worst hero in the game
get a grip nigger
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Celeste saying "honk honk clown blowjob"
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>>585740812
that title belongs to Billy
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>>585740959
troof newk
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>>585740708
Seriously though. I need you to clear the jungle more. I can't hold 2 lanes and clear the entire jungle all by myself while 4 teammates brool in the sewers over no objective in particular.
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Mina definitely uses "tiny penis" as an insult
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Bricklow players and their irresistible urge to brool in mid for no reason
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>>585741208
Projection because she has one
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>>585740959
Who programmed the cattle to downplay Billy this week?
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Here comes THE LASH
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>>585741053
I'd like to clear the jungle but my map knowledge is so bad I'll get lost and lose out on even more souls than mindless zerging or just autopiloting on lane
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>>585741284
and wears a flat chastity cage
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>check statlocker out of curiosity after getting absolutely fucking stomped in standard
>know for a fact that i'm emissary
>enemy team are all phantoms and eternus
>my team is all mystic/ritualist/emissary with one paige main that's eternus

when are they fixing matchmaking
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FOR THE DJINN
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>>585741386
you lost me..chastity cages are cringe...it should be free
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>>585741471
The djinn sound like cunts. Hope we nuke them.
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>>585734478
>hits their sensitivity button and 180s their melee dash at 12000dpi
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>>585741445
they made the matchmaking skill variance wider in standard because people were having slow queues
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>>585741726
The queue still takes 8 minutes
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>>585741608
Danny you can't say that
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>>585740135
this image but completely unironically, there is no reason to find ivy sexy other than if you're a furry, her personality is nice but it's nowhere near enough to want to fuck the thing
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Is Kelvin the most annoying hero to fight against?
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>>585742024
LIFTING
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>>585741978
her model in-game is ugly but some of her fanart is hot. But they always have to change how she looks in some way because she's normally quite ugly.
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>>585736409
just let me win and there will be no problems my little punching bag
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>>585742024
Kelvin is more annoying when he comes skating in and rescue beams someone you're fighting than actually fighting him
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>>585741471
>teleporting into the enemy deathball with bebop's bombs attached
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>>585741978
It's her cute voice for me
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>>585740203
yeah I keep getting games with 2/3 supports and we're still missing other roles
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Wait...
There is roles in this game?
I thought you just picked whatever and get sent to a lane
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>>585742371
>here's your teammate bro
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>>585742371
The players dont know their roles but the almighty matchmaker does. Trvst his vision.
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>>585742371
There are roles behind the scenes, but it's nothing you need to worry about actively, no.
There are however some heroes better in certain lanes, Rem is good in the right lane, for example. Lash wants to be yellow. Holliday is good in blue.
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>>585742371
this game will never have solidified roles and lanes like dota or league no matter how hard anyone tries to force it
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>>585742371
There are roles, the game obsfucates them because at some point the vision was "anyone can do any role". Isn't it fun!
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>>585742371
there are but theyre fluid so your support (paige or rem) may just decide they want to build gun instead of good items and if you dont like it you can go fuck yourself chuddo
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>>585742508
>There are however some heroes better in certain lanes, Rem is good in the right lane, for example. Lash wants to be yellow. Holliday is good in blue.
whats the gamesense behind this?
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>>585742596
its just mouthfeel
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>1 barrel
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is seven good right now bros
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>>585742596
Rem wants to be right lane because that's where enemy doubles are.
Lash wants to be yellow because that's the lane thats easiest to get big slams in.
Holliday wants to be blue because it makes it easy for her to roam and pick, while there's also less cover against her barrel crackshot spam
You just get a feel for it after playing for a while. Your teammates generally don't give enough of a shit to let you into a lane that's good for you, tho.
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>>585742596
Amount of sinners, vertical height, roaming
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>>585742371
There are no fixed roles.
But you might've noticed that certain heroes lend themselves more to carrying, tanking, cc/supporting than others. So the moba roles still basically apply, just more loosely because you don't worry about last hits or kill stealing.
If you think in hero-shooterisms then the answer is simply no.
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>>585742371
So if there are roles I should queue as a tank(Victor) Support(Paige) and DPS(Drifter) If I want to find a game quick. Got it.
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>>585742714
no
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>>585742825
But if you put Rem into the left lane you can steal enemy triples instead
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>>585742371
can dogs really do this? is this even real?
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>>585738831
>>585739382
My profile was already private you, schizo. Also I'm in oracle, I stopped playing ranked after eating shit drifter too many times, it looks like Drifter has dragged my average rank rating crazy down

Sorry getting plapped in standard upsets you so much
>However, you forgot to include you acting like a little nigger in ALL chat
I think I said ONE thing in chat and it was this
<
Gee I wonder who this could be (Mo). You were having am ESL meltie ALL game like a child no surprise it continues here.
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>>585743212
it's completely real
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>>585743064
Only on one side and only if you can see all enemies on the map.
Doubles is much safer.
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>first game on wraith
>my teammates keep feeding the Infernus and victor (everyone has 10+ deaths)
>end up with a 20k soul difference
>we lose
>i go 4-2 because i can't compete against shitters that are gigafed no matter how hard I'm farming
i hate this shitty ass mm
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>>585741471
>>585742127
full Halal team comp so far
>Bebop
>Mohammed & Kareem
>Mirage
>Danny
Hopefully more will join the Jihad.
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has the reverse bunny suit Graves mod been fixed yet
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>>585743254
>least autistic mo player
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>>585743254
waisting my time bylat
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>>585743254
>waisting
solar beam
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>>585743254
>cyberstalker is a malding tranny
Not surprising but would still tell you not to humor these guys by replying to them
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>>585743356
where
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so is Paradox not a pick hero anymore? how do you play her, just as a sniper with a weird ult that doesn't mesh with the rest of her kit?
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The release of Nurse Harrow made me realize how much I need a woman like her irl
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>post a clip of playing a character
>someone digs through your profile and stat locker and posts them in the thread
and people give me shit for playing in streamer mode when this place is full of unironic freak
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>make an ABSURDLY popular character with artists where you have OFFICIAL riot animators doing fan animations for him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rn_YmpDQnpM
>pulls in a ton of people singlehandedly
>proceed to force a terrible rework and then nerf him into the floor and make him the 2nd lowest pick rate and lowest WR
superb, yoshi.
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>>585743761
This guy has been posting clips for a year, it's not a one-off clip or a "random guy" exactly, but I agree with you.
I've just started blurring any names when I post clips.
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>>585743858
don't care he's my permaban
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>>585743574
women like Harrow don't exist anymore, well besides paying them to act like one
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>>585743858
because the gameplay is more important and he was cancer to play against
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>make an ABSURDLY popular character with artists where you have OFFICIAL riot animators doing fan animations for him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRVpO1EsQVg
>pulls in a ton of people singlehandedly
>proceed to force a terrible rework and then nerf him into the floor and make him the 2nd lowest pick rate and lowest WR
superb, yoshi.
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heded tu bloo
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>>585742714
Seven is always good
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>>585744062
he is shit right now
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The feedback on Harrow ult is fucking awful. The fear bar is halfway filled before you even realize what is happening.
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at this rate, yamyam is going to get outpaced in high elo
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>>585744013
trvke
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who is the matchmaker
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me thoughts
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Why does Violet have the same falloff range as a sniper?
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Frenzy
Unstoppable
Healing tempo
AWOOOO *dies anyway*
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not picking throphy collector on harrow feels like such a missplay given the additional range and souls she needs
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>>585744495
John GPT
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>>585744240
yep and you can get feared after turning away or mostly having turned away
it's shit
violet's 3 has latency issues the same way getting stunned behind walls
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>>585744020
yeah well kidnap was cancer
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How can baba be a witch if she doesn't have a comically oversized hat
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>>585744004
>banning 44% winrate man
hello emissary
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>>585744486
I know that guy and he's a SEA monkey with genuine mental impairment
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>>585744020
he's still good he just takes skill now.
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>>585744574
IDF soldier character
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>>585744724
You dont ban heroes because they are good because there are always 10 different s-tier heroes at the same time. You aren't making a dent in them. You ban someone if they annoy you on a personal level.
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>>585744020
>official riot animator
those animations for him look fucking dogshit
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>>585744724
I don't care, he's awful to play against
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>>585744680
Violet's 3 has a weird grace period that feels inconsistent
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>>585742714
Highest win rate in the game right now, actually decent early game, and comes online at 20 minutes instead of 40 now.
So yes, he's very good.
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>>585744020
Being able to escape any situation by instantly closing a door was so goddamn braindead even by Icefrog standards
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>>585731296
So many heroes have healing that Antiheal is a good purchase against nearly any enemy roster.
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>>585743858
>hero should be overpowered because some lolshit dev made a video
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What if instead of the Doorman it was the Doorwoman huh
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>>585744935
>Highest win rate in the game right now
There's literally no rank range where that is true.
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>>585745092
Please consider the shareholders. Doorman was supposed to sell skins.
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>>585744874
This. I don't ban Sinclair because I think he's any good. I ban him because I enter a mindless frothing rage every time he steals my ult.
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doorman should remain useless because he destroys my framerate
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>>585745196
>laning against a sinclair
>rush silence wave in lane
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>>585744935
sorry i thought you were talking about venator
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what if he was doorworm
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>>585742714
I don't know all my matches with him have been rancid dogshit so he feels weak even if I giga stomp win my lane.
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>suddenly, violet's right click lags the fuck out of my game, when it didn't on her launch, and i haven't touched my graphics settings since
????????
is there a known issue/fix here
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>>585744486
this image is from ages ago
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>>585744874
>You dont ban heroes because they are good
hello mystic
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>>585745501
Would you still love him if he was a worm
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>>585745576
>known issue
yes
>fix
no
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>>585745615
that's it, sex with vindicta
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>>585745501
>Doorworm in the Big Apple
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>>585745576
yes
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/zkXga88Uj9U
>>585745615
too fat
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for me, its the Dwifta
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>>585745615
Birthing hips gawd dawm
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>some guy takes danny from me on the enemy
>swap to violet and build slowing hex in lane so he can never dive bomb
>he buys reactive cause either I or chimere keep stunning him
>buy knockdown and he buys dispel for it later
>buy curse and he gets indomitable
kek, i made sure his life was miserable and we won in a 45 minute slog
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>>585745749
Not fat enough, the thighs should be thicker to match the weight of the doughy ass
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>>585738831
>>585743254
>relax it's standard stop screaming end
>"forgot to include you acting like a little nigger in ALL chat"
imagine getting so upset by this you sperg out in the general trying to witch hunt.
Decided to check to see if he said anything else but this really was all he said. The guy ITT is probably the Haze (who kept raging quitting after each death and rejoining like a pussy) because he seems to really love this word. Could be the mo though since mo and ven were arguing too. I've been playing a lot of detective games lately.
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I use my prio tokens on violet and harrow just to swap away from them so at least one match gets spared of cancer
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>>585745620
When are you gonna learn that making up a rank and assigning it to someone you disagree with is not an argument?
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>>585745769
Big fat dwitties
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>>585745615
>>585745792
not to burst your gay nigga adjacent fat chaser bubble but those dresses have supports built in to flare out
>>585745950
i am the opposite from you any time I dont have a danny token i swap to them to be cancer to the enemy danny >>585745883
>>585745883
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having literally zero healing done on victor is blatantly trolling, right? like there's just no fucking way
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>>585746070
Oh really? Next you'll tell me that men don't shoot fifteen ropes of gel like cum despite them being drawn like that in porn, truly my world is ending
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They need to do a consistency patch, right now it's basically a coinflip whether an ability that requires line of sight (allegedly) actually does or not
>Geist drain
>Break line of sight and it's instantly interrupted
>Seven ult
>Crouch behind a car to avoid it
>Violet 3
>You can be behind terrain and it still finishes channeling
>Billy ult
>No explanation needed
It's completely fucking ridiculous. Valve is the richest game dev on the planet both in absolute numbers and by revenue per employee, and they can't be bothered to make their shit behave consistently
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>>585746103
sounds like a bug, doesn't jumpstart give it?
>>585746070
We know shes BIG because her model use to be fully rendered underthere.
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>>585746103
Mouse over the healing stat. If you do more self damage than you heal it says you healed for zero.
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>>585746246
It's net hp change and not fucking healing??? Which retard designed the postgame stat screen?
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>get bugged match, have to abandon and take penalty
>significantly worse playing, more BM teammates from then on
Am I in shitter queue now because of a fucking bug?
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>>585745919
>who kept raging quitting after each death and rejoining like a pussy
I fucking hate when people do this. It's so performative
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>>585746185
>Geist drain
>Break line of sight and it's instantly interrupted
Blatantly incorrect
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I can only play Sinclair or I feed horribly
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>>585746439
yes.
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>>585733169
kek retard
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LET ME HEAL YOU
STOP BREAKING LOS
LET ME FUCKING HEAL YOU
DONT BACK UP AND GET AFRAID YOU HAVE 3K HEALING AN AN INVULN BUTTON POCKETING YOU
RRAAAAAAAAAA
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>>585746457
usually when that happens, it's because their game is lagging/frames are shit, so they're using their death timer to quit and rejoin
source: happens to me occasionally
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>>585744680
>>585744926
It's the same as Billy ult
It'd feel like absolute shit if it broke the moment you broke LoS
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Well boys, it finally happened
I had a friendly Harrow troll me with her 2
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>>585746692
>it'd feel like absolute shit if the ability worked in the most obvious way
ok
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>>585746240
Today I will remind them
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>>585746692
>>585744926
>>585744680
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoQebnQBRCA
Mandatory viewing really
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>>585746347
It's likely to avoid people farming MVPs while being unproductive. Plus Valve uses those kinds of stats for matchmaking and calibration and stuff. You used to be able to cheese the Dota calibration years ago by picking the highest global damage hero (Zeus) and spamming off cd.
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im obscurus in some sort of brick tier where im able to seal club, anyone want to seal club in my standard games? you'll get to larp as vegeta during the namek arc.
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>>585746462
I took your post in good faith and went ingame and tested it and turns out you're a lying faggot, fuck off and kill yourself
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>>585746998
>quoting dragon ball out of the blue
sorry I don't play with browns
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>>585746547
Are you serious? My first abandon, and its caused by a bug, and I'm in the asshole segregated MM?
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>>585746998
I'd just drag you up.
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listen i know the game is in testing, we're fucking testing it
how many weeks of data do you need to see that rat king's grenade is egregiously overtuned and punching it is just placebo
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Every once in a while this happens to my game and I don't know why
It just takes two minutes for me to actually load in the match and it's all fucked up
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>>585747181
a few more months
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someone please explain to my why my nurse harrow games healing amount are so low, usually like 10k or 15k at match end

it feels like the needles expire extremely quickly and never refill, so in a big team fight i have enough to heal maybe 1 person and then i cant heal any further

are there any items that help with the healing needle regen?
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>>585746626
Playing Harrow takes me back to playing Medic in Killing Floor 1. Motherfuckers won stand still for two seconds and bitch about healing.
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>>585747234
SSD?
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>>585747049
Unless they changed it recently I've had Geists sucking me through walls plenty of times
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>>585747262
You need to get leeches and deal damage to enemies, so instead of being pure heal cuck make sure to actually shoot enemies too
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>>585747262
are you using blood tribute? self-damage detracts from healing done on the score screen
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>>585747327
AHM WELDING DIS DOAH
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>>585747181
Punching it should reset the explosion timer and make it your projectile instead of his
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ok but if yamato couldn't grapple through walls she'd actually be F tier
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>>585747327
WHERE'S A QUACK WHEN YOU WANT ONE??
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>>585739382
>>585739914
>all positive except drifter
I knew I wasn't crazy, this hero is fucking throw pick
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>>585747234
>gravesmonkey
>on an HDD
KEKAROOOO
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huh ivy actually gets covered in ivy and grows flowers and shit when she presses 2 now instead of just glowing
when the fuck did they add that
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>>585747234
I think it's your fruity little graves mod
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Holliday is fun!
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>>585747341
>>585747562
it's not on hdd which is why I'm wondering why this happens, it's not on every game either
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>>585743254
>clears the entire jungle instead of ending while the entire enemy team is afk in base just like the other guy said
that anon is right and that Mohamed in your game is right
just by the way you type it's easy to tell you're a retard who wanted to act cool but got caught
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>>585737625
kek what a fucking retarded opinion
>being a "pro player" isn't real at the moment anyway
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>>585746626
>nurse harrow says she can heal me
>can't control myself and start strafing back and forth to dodge
>she just stands there and stops shooting in disbelief
>say I wont do it again and move on with the match
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>Rat King
>His actual rats do fuckall, he's just a statstick to rape people with
Move power budget onto his rats
His grenade applies rats but is nerfed elsewhere
His ult makes more rats but gives less free stats
Nerf his 3 a bit or something idk
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>irl who sucks dogshit at video games and gets mad when he sucks at them asks to play deadlock norms with me
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>>585747593
Been that way since the model update I'm pretty sure
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>>585747764
I liked rat king on release but his 1 being even more automatic makes him so boring bro. Like the character plays himself so all there's left to do is seethe about my team if I'm losing cause I cant improve at the character. Miserable experience. Thank god danny saved this batch of heroes
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>>585747730
Post rank
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>>585747697
She's only fun if you can headshot, which I can't.
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>>585747593
I think with the big update
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>>585747764
the rats are weird because i think they're fine for what they are (free bullet shred) but at the same time you don't really need to invest AP into them for them to do their job
the t3 upgrade is good since it doubles the shred but rat king's other t3s are kinda just better
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>>585747406
>>585747510
I NEED DRUGS NOW!
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>>585747924
i recommend lowering your sensitivity, aiming became a lot easier when I did that
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>>585747764
If Rem didn't have lil helpers, Rat King could have.
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I'd accept rat king 1 nerf if his 2 got buffed. His gun is so anemic that he kind of needs the grenade damage right now.
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[sad news] nobody plays solomon anymore
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>>585736618
more variety
more upgrade paths
Neutral items would be cool
anything to switch up the current state of the game because i'm tired of picking from the same pool of items where only half of them are useable by one character and half of that half are actually good

>>585747327
>Motherfuckers won stand still for two seconds
NO
DO NOT STAND STILL
YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM
I DON'T WANT TO WALK BACKWARDS TOWARDS THE ENEMY JUST SO I CAN HEAL YOU
I'M GETTING REVERSE HARROW ULTED BY MY TEAMMATES JUST TO DO MY JOB AAAUAUUGGGGHHH
DOSH HERE
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Radiant Regen Holliday.
Think about it.
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>>585748058
yeah i do
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>playing Paige
>team doing well
>suddenly tank graves pops off on enemy team
>tell everyone to buy disarm/curse to shut her down asap
>no one listens
>single handedly be the sole survivor every team fight because I bought disarm
>ping that every fight
>no one listens
>lose
I love support
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Mina's umbrella should've had a hook so she could hang from the zipline with it.
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>>585747121
yes. I had power go out and got straightup low prio. Just how it is.
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>>585748108
>Neutral items
Worst thing they ever added to Dota. Well maybe second worst, after shrines
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i think Holiday is the most attractive despite being 34 or 35 or w/e.
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>>585748108
Neutral items suck, we do not need fucking RNG on what drops or some crazy late game Street Brawl tier Legendary items.
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>>585747835
I fapped that animation today
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>>585748058
this is a good thing
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What if the midboss area sent you to a pocket dimension with a bigger arena and 3 rejuv crystals would spawn instead of 1, would this fix aoeslop dominating mid?
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>>585748162
It's a parasol not an umbrella you stupid fucking nigger
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>>585748164
gonna kms
I'm in EU. My punishment for a fucking bug is low prio Russians.
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>>585748239
>this is a good thing
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>>585748110
its not crazy since youre building spirit for barrels but at the same time holliday is usually standing in the back and not really going right up to people so i dont think she'd get a ton of value from the healing
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>>585748441
My point stands.
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>>585748460
Anon he's genuinely awful to fight anywhere around an objective. He just gets to sit there and spam right click and do thousands of damage for free indefinitely.
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>>585740812
You got the point, you're just pretending not to because you think you're an ebin meemster
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>>585748058
nobody wants to play a black character
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>venator and celeste lose their lane in 5 minutes their laners roam everywhere
>they can't farm for shit, at the same time farming jg and still letting the wave hit our walkers
>die before rift
>"they were better than US guys nothing we can do"
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>>585748460
bro that shit sucks ass to lane against
the minute I see the bishop drop and those landmines begin to build up in the lane I want to disconnect
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>>585748652
>wraith
>haze
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Why the fuck do Russians queue up duo'd but use ingame voice
I will never understand these creatures.
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>>585748058
The character was stupidly designed and utterly broken when he didnt even need LOS on the pieces. Just mashing RMB with no thought on mid boss or patron or rift. Epic design valve.

Also he's black so yeah people dropped him when he isnt OP
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>>585748219
for me it's the dec reward with krampus
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>>585748153
It didn't happen like that, there were 10 other players in the game and you made up a narrative after the fact to justify why you lost
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>>585748212
isn't she 24
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>>585748678
If you just ignore them and play the highground solomon players have an aneurism
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>>585748805
this is true however you cant let him have even an inch of breathing room because once you do he'll just run rampant all over the lane
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>>585747913
Shallow Grave, Ritualist 4
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>>585748665
>noooooo i lost at a multiplayer game this has never happened to me before im having a meltdown
Mental illness
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>>585748792
Maybe if you counter bought you wouldn't have died to the only character getting kills on the enemy team
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>wraith player is a useless troglodyte during laning and I stomp him
>but it doesn't matter because he gets to deal insane burst and gun damage, has a free escape, displacement plus stun and healing to collect the kills promised to him by israelfrog
epic hero
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>>585748805
>play in the high ground and get raped by his gun instead
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>>585747764
>Named "Rat King"
>Has a bunch of little rat followers
>One of his abilities throws a grenade that inexplicably follows enemies around by bouncing towards them
>>>No rats inside
Is nu-Valve losing their touch?
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>>585748790
That one is great too.
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>>585748212
tomboys are just based, this is known
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>>585749009
>heh im going to pretend youre someone i know you arent +izzat heheheh
Graves wasn't the only character getting kills on the enemy team and you're lying, as I already pointed out
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>>585748705
is this real??
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I simply dont care what "pros" have to say. The moment this game officially releases they're all being put out a job. While they all fight each other to coach better players. While some troon out to get all thr homos to watch them so they dont need to work a retail job
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>>585748153
I know that feel bro
>be Paige defending Guardian on green while my lane partner is backing for health and the enemy is shopping
>suddenly, a big, hot, musky Husky walks by
>immediately pop my Virility Aura and get on all fours
>20 minutes later my team starts flaming me because I didnt defend the Walker and they got it for free
>I was stuck with a knot inside me for the rest of the match
We lost that match but I had fun :3
#supportlife
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>>585748219
source?
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>>585749217
>waahhhh it's the JEETS
I accept your concession
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>>585749414
https://pawchive.pw/patreon/user/8806628/post/167806167
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i am honest
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Gun Celeste
Spirit Vyper
Melee Haze
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>>585749465
peak
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>>585749456
>completely ignores my point
Who conceded here exactly?
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>>585749473
>kelvin
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>>585746070
>gay nigga adjacent fat chaser bubble
It really is funny how you can just tell.
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>start running radiant regen on ivy
>buy plated early, keep healbane into late game
>never die, 9 game winstreak
this item needs to fucking die lmao
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>>585749473
>k*lvin players in this general
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>>585749319
You get it
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>>585747381
THATS what it is? once the laning phase is over i'm really struggling to hit enemy heroes with the leeches
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TELL ME ABOUT SHIV
WHY DOES HE WEAR THE FLASK
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>>585749915
throw leeches when enemy is out of stamina
if that doesn't work, throw them near soul orbs that enemy hasn't picked up yet
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>>585749574
I accept your concession
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>>585749915
...how? It's a grenade ability and Harrow buys Greater Expansion as core. Just throw it into the middle of whatever dogshit moshpit of a teamfight is happening over any random objective
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hello dlg faggots
in which situations would you rather have a holliday on your team than a paradox
do not include paradox's thighs in this consideration
thank you
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>>585750001
It's his jo crystal.
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ffffuark
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>>585733465
>paige
>honest
nigga
you step into her fucking dragon in the lategame and take half your HP in damage as a squishy and she wasnt even on your screen
anyone that can do damage without trying is automatically dishonest
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>>585750109
its a slow ass grenade with shit range, I just really struggle to hit heroes with it in a teamfight, and usually if I'm so close to an enemy that its impossible for me to miss the grenade, i'm out of position and about to die
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>>585750169
Don't fucking talk to me like that faggot
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>two americans duoed in my EU game who speak Russian to each other on mic
What the fuck is going on
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>>585750236
answer the question GIGAQUEER
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>>585750184
viscous if he was good
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>>585750169
No faggot, no faggot, you're the faggot
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>>585750169
>do not include paradox's thighs
No
The answer is paradox btw
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>>585749807
You called?
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>>585750250
draft dodging
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>>585750434
anon i am asking about too many situations to give you multiple choice, do you mean that there is no situation in which you would prefer holliday

one of these characters will be my last ranked unlock so i need to decide who to focus on

>>585750413
i am not a faggot but i think i might have a heterosexual mancrush on venator
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using slowing and disarming sex on mina as soon as she shows up in lane.
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>>585750645
pinning and choking sex
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>>585749807
I play Kelvin and coom to Venator and Abrams on a bi-weekly basis, what's up?
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City Never Sleeps is a big miss for me.
Violet is awful all around
Baba and Solomon are both boring and terrible concept execution
Ratking is kind of good but completely braindead boring
Danny is OK
Harrow is cool

Compared to Old Gods, every single character from that lineup hit. Even if I didn't like them personally (Apollo/Graves), their execution, ideas, aesthetic, lore, gameplay, were leagues above Baba autistically jumping around or the Chess character just mashing giant AOE slop with 0 strategy
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Spellslinger on Vyper, yay or nay?
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>>585738532
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>>585750804
yay, luxury item though.
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>buy slowing hex as 3rd item in lane against one of the "schmovement" cuck heroes
>farm slurs like they're going out of style and tilt him into being the bottom player on his team
It's that easy
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>>585748705
Rusnigs are mentally ill and antisocial, they're niggers in every sense of the word. They kill every game they infest and pretend that they are the reason the game is alive as they are the only people left playing, like jeets.
They are nigger jeets, the worst subhumans on the planet.
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>we might unironically get a 1.0 release with unfinished character models
Grim
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>>585750761
based
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>chudzu ivy outdamages Wraith at 32 min
sneed it or feed it
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What is the point of this hero?
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>>585751043
not only that, but with unfinished placeholder kits with throwaway abilities like mirage
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melee is fundamentally broken and needs to be removed same with parry
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>>585751043
It's kinda wild that Valve still considers the current state of the game "early development"
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>>585749005
sheesh projecting much?
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>>585751139
>that face
I see him everywhere.
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danny, I like
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>>585747720
The game literally ends in that very short clip. Only a retard believes "team afk in base!" when it's only one faggot screeching it

Don't know why you're even trying to pretend you're somebody else
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>>585749560
Zcik is godlike
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>>585748049
without fail 50% or more of my damage comes from grenade alone and i know it's all AoEslop pad damage
it actually sucks because it's his only real damage ability and his gun feels so impotent no matter what you build
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Should I be buying phantom strike on Baba? Vindicta hard counters me and I don't like it, but knockdown feels like a victim's item.
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>>585751252
well most games are still "early access" years past their peak playercount these days so its not surprising, valve has a better excuse than most
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>>585750631
I have consistently enjoyed having a paradox more than a holiday, they are easier to play around and predict
But the rare good holiday does exist so it depends on how good you are
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>>585743212
yeah? look up haymaker valley and send your dog there
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why is it when I pop boxes sometimes theres just fuck all in there
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Is there anything I can even do to a Harrow/Geist lane or do I just have to get fucked in the ass forever?
Beyond fucking mad right now
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>>585750792
>Rat King
I honestly don't mind him being "boring" because every MOBA and hero shooter needs a decent number of braindead characters for shitters and casuals to be able to use to dip their toes in/learn to play/play with their friends. It's weird that he has no build variety though, other anons have pointed this out but evening out his power budget away from his ult and grenade and onto more rats would probably make him more well-rounded as well as make a spirit build possible
>Baba
Genuinely awful design, regardless of whether Deadlock SHOULD have a draft, the fact that there isn't one means "makes the game unplayable for anyone building spirit (sorry chuddy you ALL must build gun now)" is a horrible piece of shit thing to add. Even if she didn't have her stomps, her 1 stealing spirit for 22s at base -> 30s -> 37s with Duration Extender should be grounds for whoever designed her getting banned from making any more heroes forever
>Solomon
For what it's worth his design fits his theme incredibly well, his gameplay is just iffy because he's a ground-effect spellcaster in a game where every teamfight is full of people jumping/gliding/rocketing/parkouring/outright flying. So they give him a bunch of AoE so he can shit up the screen during objectives as a consolation prize
>Danny
He's cool but awfully managed. In exchange for worse counterplay than the other flying heroes(if you Knockdown him he can start flying immediately without needing to wait for a flight ability to come off cooldown the way Vindicta does, Slowing Hex doesn't do anything, etc) he also gets gimped in thematically-fitting but gameplay-nonsensical ways (self damage, procs his own Indomitable). This is just me but I'm very disappointed that he wasn't a balls-to-the-walls close-range flamethrower m1gger who can cope with risky gameplay by nuking on death in a way similar to Victor ult. Also /dlg/ was 100% right on how a radio crackle and Britbong accent would be better
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>>585742714
he is too honest, this was fine but they put a ton of gimmick and/or ultslop in the game that he can't deal with. violet ult basically turns his off
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>tune in to chipotle streamerman for fightan
>he creates a smurf account in Deadlock
>gets butthurt that he is now playing with first timers and noobs and constantly whines about his team
Will I get afflicted by this level of self-pitying moba retardation too if I play more or is this some genetic disposition with certain people?
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should i just kill myself
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>>585742508
>>585742825
Or you can just go middle and have access to both triples and doubles? wtf is the point of going right lane
Middle is literally right there for roamers and that's all Rem does
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>>585752006
>Beyond fucking mad right now
i cracking up from that thanks anon
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>lassoing lash out of his big five man ult
feelsgoodman
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>>585751990
they and golden statues have a 60% chance of dropping stuff
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>>585752069
No do not kill yourself, you'll improve
Also try another hero, Seven has always been a noob trap.
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>>585752006
geist harrow is like old world of warcraft blizzard

it is a unholy satanic combo and you & your lane partner are the designated "pain piglets", its not so much you vs them as them vs themselves
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>>585743858
The less he's picked the more I get to play him though
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>>585752064
sajam? he's an unironic pseud who acts like he's this fighting game genius, he started playing this game but literally only in a 6 stack where he'd bully randoms with his team. if he is actually playing with randoms for once and getting tilted then it makes perfect sense
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>>585750792
>Violet
Plenty of posts on how her writing is awful, but her gameplay is odd too. She's the opposite of Danny being undertuned on release, whoever designed her must have been planning to main her after release. No reason why her paint walls need to damage enemies breaking through, no reason for her 2 to have infinite range, no reason why her 3 needs to give stats, no reason her ult should block Seven ult when it isn't terrain, fucking why?. Like Celeste she can just hold W and statcheck people and is just as obnoxious
>Harrow
I think she's the best one this batch(with Danny coming in 2nd) but her ult is a clusterfuck. She already stacks a ton of health regen through leeches, it's bizarre that her ult at max tier gives total damage immunity instead of a budget Cheat Death (so that when it ends, she needs to scramble not to get finished off, reposition to heal back up, not end her ult out in the open, same considerations as Seven for example)
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>>585752006
Sorry man, you're gonna feel the wrath of these MILFS
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>>585752069
Are you playing him as a m1gger? If you want to comfymaxx just build him as a spirit ultbot, Echo Shart on your stun, spam pokeballs into teamfights, etc it's way more chill than sweating your balls off with gun items trying to land every headshot
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>>585752006
You can't kill them but they can't kill you. Just farm and wait for someone's guardian to die so you can start roaming and rape their teammates instead.
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>>585744004
>using it on Doorman instead of Apollo, Orstein & Smough or Mina
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>>585752794
>Orstein & Smough
what
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>>585744947
Don't worry we still have Violet, Wraith and Mina that can still do the same thing
Oh and that cunt Baba with her sonic speed
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MOM SAYS ITS MY TURN TO PLAY
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>>585752634
yeah, this is my worst game from today
guess 15% hs rate isnt enough
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>>585744686
kidnap was the rework, his doors used to have less range. they
>extended range
>added spirit scaling (for more range)
purely to enable the AIDS kidnap gameplay of getting grabbed to his walker or spawn

then they realized this was retarded to play against and instead of reverting or doing anything, they made his doors clunkier to use
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>>585752794
not nearly as annoying as doorman
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>>585753069
oh i forgot to censor it now the tranny schizos are going to stalk me
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>>585753069
>Greater Expansion
>Superior Duration
>Rapid Recharge
>Escalating Exposure
>Unstoppable
>Refresher
Zero cortisol, steady heartrate, healthy blood pressure, optimal gut biome
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>>585752454
Yeah Sajam. Been a while since I last watched because he got too insufferable with the whole 2XKO top.
>is used to stomping randoms with stacked teams
yeah I started assuming something like that
Would explain the smurfing too and the inflated sense of his own skill.
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>>585748796
No. She spent decades being the sheriff of maccomb
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>>585752514
>No reason why her paint walls need to damage enemies breaking through
I don't know why her paint has two different breaking mehcanics. Her right click paint being breakable by melee but not stunning you and her ult being unbreakable except for walking through it and stunning you is just stupid. If I heavy melee through your ult wall, it should break it withouth stunning and damaging me.
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>>585753147
Don't forget the very same patch they added cooldown discount to his ult when people don't escape in time. The entire patch was designed purely to turn Doorman into a kidnapnigger.
>Is that... le heckin' Gunman? NOOO YOU CAN'T BUILD GUN ITEMS ON HIM, NERF NERF NERF!
>Is that... le heckin' Bellman? NOOO HIS BELLS(his only real damage ability) DO TOO MUCH DAMAGE, NERF NERF NERF!
>Is that... le heckin' Cartman? NOOO ECHO SHART CART IS ANNOYING or sumthin' idk lol NERF NERF ENRF!
>Uninteractive kidnap spam gameplay that takes zero skill and is used to farm Youtube clips? Oh my science, yes, so much win!!
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>>585751129
>32 minutes
>Wraith with sub 2k objective damage
>Wraith with less player damage than a chudzu Ivy
I don't understand how Wraith can be the easiest character in the game yet still attract the biggest, blackest, retard, gorilla niggers I have ever seen holy fuck
>>
why doesnt victor buy healbane? doesnt it synergize with his 3 and duty?
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>>585753069
i think toxic bullets sucks ass even with escalating exposure
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>>585745329
>mfw legit caused somebody to crash because I ulted him in a narrow hallway, placed two doors across the hall from one another and then threw him into a door with a cart, putting him into a sickening cycle while teabagging
It's not about win rate, it's about sending a message
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>>585753596
this, but haze players
seen plenty of dumbass wraith players but from my experience wraith players are usually the more sentient of the two
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>>585752454
he always picks whatever is the current broken/OP hotness too, both in fighting games and mobas
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>>585753489
>kidnap spam gameplay that takes zero skill
this is the part that fucks me up
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>lose 9 game winstreak to this while my main gets banned
what's even the play against a comp like this?
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>>585753323
Her ult wall doesn't stun bro that's the Lightning Scroll.
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>>585753489
>>Is that... le heckin' Cartman?
me when i'm in south park or something
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>>585753923
spirit resilience witchmail
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>>585753923
jesus christ, fucking, lose i guess? unironic soloq nightmare comp
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>>585753923
>57k player damage MnK
What the fuck
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>>585753721
Your experience is very different from mine because every drooling Haze I've seen ALSO plays mains Wraith despite not being able to hold a target to save their fucking lives
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ive won a mere 11 out of my last 37 games
should I kill myself?
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>>585739998
His VA is the ebin matthew reddit mercer :DDD

Also you are literally yasuo and will coinflip every game.
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>>585751139
>"We're making a character based game we need a turret character"
>"But nobody likes turret characters"
>"Yeah, so we'll make ours the most pointless addition to the roster and slam her with nerfs any time she manages to do anything"
>"Well at that point why don't we just not add a turret character?"
>"Dont talk back to me, code monkey"
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>>585753923
make sure 2 people on your team have knockdown at 15 mins
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>>585754101
Call a friend that can carry your ass
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Spellslinger on Violet, yay or nay?
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>lane with retard in standard vs full spirit danny
>it's just him diving into free kill off CD on retards

ah ok so that's why everyone is losing their mind over danny
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>>585754228
eh, she doesn't really build gun and you fire 1s fast enough without it. there's better t4s available for you
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>>585754250
Danny flies and flying heroes break the brains of like 70% of the game's entire playerbase
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Is Victor a tank or a carry?
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>>585724628
>>585724857
I KNOW Deadlock has good hero design because you can see people bitching about literally every single character, which means they're all the same level of annoying bullshit. Perfectly balanced.
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Voice comms on this game are so fucking useless in SoloQ most "calls" are redundant noise that people repeat over and over to appear busy.
The calls I made I might as well just use the ingame ping system instead.
It's really a waste of time and energy unless you're playing with friends/regulars or in an actual tournament with a team.

Thanks for attending my TED talk.
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>>585753923
Bend over and accept fate
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>>585754467
nobody ever bitches about my favourites because theyre fair, skillful, and honest
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>>585747327
Cheers, big ears!
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>>585753923
you should always try to play as many tanks as possible, makes the game unfair
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>>585754490
Hi f2nke.
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>>585754418
they might increase the volume of his dive beep, that's really the only way to get these retards to get out of the way
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>>585753721
Wraith only appears more sentient because she has LIFTING and her blink which means she's never caught unless retarded
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>>585754768
funke literally says the exact opposite
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why game gay and woke now?!?!
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People that yap too much get muted
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My werewolf wife
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>>585754889
Nobody said anything about funke
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>team with Violet, Rat King and Harrow have the audacity to complain about Danny
Die.
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>>585754993
>newfags think f2nke is his actual name
its his second channel, lil bro
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>>585754889
Exactly why I said it. Being wrong in such a flagrant way makes it where whoever said shit originally is confused and whoever is aware feels compelled to correct me. F2nke is a little bit too autistic about communication for an early access game but its still funny.
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>>585754929
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>kill 3 with impactful teamfight ults
>think "hmm we could do mid if we all went there right now"
>call mid, point out their best mid contest is dead for another 30 seconds
>team is busy trying to finish off some lone rem or destroy a walker
>by the time they finish the 3 we killed have respawned or are close enough to respawning and our window to safely do mid is gone
are these bad mid calls or does everyone just think "nah we totally have time to chase holliday into her spawn AND do mid"
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>>585754250
>>585754418
I played Vindicta while in a 3-man with two noob friends I was inviting to the game
Went 27/1 and the enemy team (probably all new players or at least shitty enough to get matched with two new players) had four guys in allchat bitching about how overpowered Vindicta was
I was feeling merciful (and already had Indom + Counterspell + Unstoppable anyway) so I told them that there's a counter item for just about everything in this game and that they should try Knockdown
I even went as far as to tell the enemy Paige and Rem that their heroes are the ones who usually are on "anvil duty"
The Paige told me she had no slots left, I pressed tab to check and she had three 800 soul items at almost 40 minutes iirc
The Rem stopped talking in allchat and I thought he might buy Knockdown but he never did either, I guess he just gave up

These are the players who make up the majority of every game's playerbase, who flood the Discord and forums with useless feedback, totally detached stances on which heroes/items are strong and which are weak, etc
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>>585755121
no they are fine mid calls but people tunnel vision on whatever they're currently doing way too often
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>>585754929
>October 12th
At this point you've been unbanned in-game for longer than you've been spamming this
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>>585755121
>Kill enough people to do mid
>everyone slowly starts spreading apart going into the jungle
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>>585755121
I often have to tell people to drop everything and mid RIGHT NOW or we miss the window
It works about half the time
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>>585754837
from my experience you don't realize the wraith players are braindead until you see the scoreboard and realize they have zero damage and bought colossus. haze players might look good on the scoreboard but in-game you'll notice they'll do shit like try to gank you way ahead of wave, miss sleep dagger, ult anyways, and not cancel ult when you go around a corner because they ulted in a stupid position. they're like foils to one another
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>>585755468
>>585755468
>>585755468
>>585755468
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>>585755121
And when they do take mid they all wander off to do God knows what and we only gather up to push together when mid buff is already 50-75% gone... and it ends right as we start fighting the enemy team
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>>585755121
>"hmm we could do mid if we all went there right now"
lmfaooo pussy ass yt boy i just spam the lets take rejuv voiceline 10 times in a row. bitch ass nigga
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>>585755089
That's (you).
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>>585755054
>hurr durr, retarded on purpose, etc.
yawn
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>>585748203
WE MUST TURN DEADLOCK INTO 3D DOTA AND IMPORT ALL THE FEATURES AND BRING CANCER LANCER AND NEUTRAL ITEMS TO DEADLOCK BECAUSE I JUST WANT TO PLAY DOTA AGAIN WITH A SHINY NEW COAT OF PAINT
>dota players actually think like this
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>>585757064
>>>/vg/owg
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>>585738831
OH NONONONO...
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>>585753923
Oops! All Tanks!
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>>585753923
I'd Euthanize desu



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