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First for big nelf cocks (female)
can we all pls just be civil and discuss the videogame without any tribal autism or weird sex posting?
OGRE
alliance sissies... its literally over
>>585736038I dunno, can Fagevers stop thinking about dicks for 30 seconds? xD
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nth for railing pink skin green hair tied in a single braid night elves in shadowglen
>>585735334every other change fine, paid elf racials op?>thinking, blizz pulling the old riot games new legend strategy huh
>SIXTY PERCENT MOVEMENT SPEED IN COMBATBROOOOO????
You fucking racial minmaxers wouldnt be happy unless every race was given the exact same boring passive bonuses with no flavour or variety. Shut the fuck up and just play the game you fucking faggots
60%??? HOLY
>>585736123they saw the rs players got their game cancelled and want the same thing here
Fuck me.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQAEpv2qUOQits out.
what did I miss I was working today
(tiny elf clits x caged human sissy losers) x paradise of orcs redux thunderbluff remox
>>585736060why? now that orc lost their own 1% crit racial, and humans gained 5% additional spirit (now a useful stat) humans have been relatively buffed
>humanniggers wheres your crit, niggas? where'd it go?
I'm still rolling femdead warlock, sorry not sorry.
You did boughter the big boi pack right anon?
>>585735808>fun havers discordlesshttps://discord.gg/TNTkQTpdVD fucking OP makers
>https://www.wowhead.com/forever/news/racial-ability-tuning-pass-for-wow-forever-383597>he boughted
>>585736205they really should make tauren skinnable as recompense
>>585736232Ok where.
>>585736306
>>585736294tf you mean now nigga its always been useful
>>585735928It's not permanent it's just 30% speed for 15 seconds on a 2 min cooldown if you have the 1 hour buff.
is forever going to have the engraving stuff? or anything similar?
>tauren hunters will be hitting 60 a dozen hours+ before anyone else
>>585736306It's still there though? Only halved.Orcbrowns lost theirs though LMAO
Alliance sissies, what is the play when you see a big black tauren bvll running at 60% straight for your hole
Post warrior women
>>585736241what the fuck is this
>>585736220No I won't be happy until my pick is just objectively better than all the others
>>585736294horde warlocks/hunters will be so far ahead of anything else that its not even funnyAlso 30% ms on sky elf mogs every other racial hard
>>585736326how many trans porn channels does this disc have?
Is the Orc pet stuff significant?
>horde is back to orc being the only race with non-shit racialsIt's over.
>>585736316yeah, but currently in process of refunding it because they ruined skelf racial kek going NE druid
>human crit cut in halfIt's over
>retards thinking that letting numlock toggled for 2 minutes for a mov speed bonus that wears off in combat is somehow broken
>undead passives still worthless aside from 1 pvp one>orc now a better warlockneed a hug from a forsaken girl right about now
>>585736205>>585736226it falls off when you take dmg; not that big a deal compared to how they changed what it takes to ramp it up it felt so terrible after the last hotfix on gaining stacks
I tanked BFD as a 27 Shaman very smoothly with no party deaths.
ALEXENSUAL RUNS THIS GENERAL
>>585736060it's all floorshitters crying on wowhead rn tho
>>585736456its asmon the younger
>>585736205The buff falls off super quick if you ever stop moving or get hit at all. Realistically its never gonna get faster than like 10% in combat unless you're doing some quirky kiting with hunter.
>>585736456asmonsilver
>>585736432orc has the best dps racials in the game for demo and hunter by far though
>>585736479for bm and demo everyone els its worthless
>nobody talking about skelves getting a buff to their p2w racialOk I will I suppose? Lmao i hope yall kept your skelf pack!
>>585736570>The buff falls off super quick if you ever stop movingBro have you tried pressing your A and D keys?
>10% spirithuman is the best class for leveling now?
Nightelf Priest is such a sleeper pick I feel like no one is talking about how op they look.
>>585736649its a nerf though
>>585736463the 5% pet damage isn't much better than the 1% crit they lost
>>585736512>>585736570a hunter sprinting at 60% movement speed will NEVER take damage, they will be auto-shotting mobs from 100 to 0 without taking a single hit
>>585736663rip human rogues and warriors
>>585736476we have one nsfw containment channel to get any FREAKS out of general
>just nerf all alliance racials>horde racials? uhhh just buff them whatever
I will be taking detours to follow tauren in cheetah form and casting moonfire at max range whenever they think they're about to use their racial
>>585736658They nerfed it so stutterstepping doesnt refresh it. You have to move X amount of distance to keep it running.
ALLIENCE ELF SHAMANS WHEN
they could literally remove all undead racials and i would still roll undeadtop 0.5 percentile retards are just that: retards
>>585736684also the most sexo priest class and race in general
>>585736649prolly because everyone can read except you
>>585736658they already nerfed that, you have to move a certain number of units or it falls off even if you're technically moving
>>585736658Nta but they specifically made it so you lose stacks while stutter-stepping because peope were abusing it during turn-in
>>585736456Bro you don't know him? Noticer is our guy he's based and knows his shit. Listen and learn fake chudcel
>>585736658lol they fucking hotfixed that, you cant spam stacks you have to run roughly 8-10yds in distance in a single line linearly from last stack, if you stutter step, or change direction you get absolutely cucked
>>585736663>the indifferent cruelty of Blizzard's patch notes>the indomitable The Human Spirit
>>585736767ignore that anon hes abit silly
>>585736697read again, I know its in English, Raneesh, but you at least sorta speak it?
Gonna snag the name Groid SmasherNobody steal this now it is MINE only MINEFuck off.
>>585736867must be a retailbab to double down on being a retard immediately like this
>illiterate retards getting filtered by the new skelf tooltipIt's not mana regen/movement speed for an 1 hour. That's not how it works.It's a 2 min cooldown that gives 50% mana regen or 15% movement speed for 15 seconds. If you use it near a leyline you get a 1 hour buff that upgrades the racial to 100% mana regen or 30% movement speed for 15 secs on cooldown.It's a 15 sec duration regardless.
>>585736647I'm still hopeful that the 16/4/31 build is good.Fuck lone wolf as a concept.
>*100 parses in you're way*
>>585736710it's good for warriors though, since warriors have the highest spirit to hp conversion ratio
>>585736739>>585736785>>585736797>>585736819Can't have nice things. But it's still going to feel nice on long walks
>undead racials not fixedWAAAAAH WHY NOT????
>gnome racial untouchedsrsly?
Does anyone know what time we can reserve names tomorrow?Also when can we download the live client for it?
>>585736767>Buff does the same thing as-long as you use it at a leyline but now persists through death.Yea what a nerf Daneesh!
Alright boys that settles it. Since Troll is still shit I'm going to roll Tauren and bulldoze through questing while trampling Gnome-pedos. What class for my Big Brown Cow?
>>585737009>>585737031>>585737075holy shit 3 tranny posts in a row
Alright red reyline is not that good anymore unless these leyline thingies can be found in every zone with the attuned status now.Still the 2% haste seem now better than 2% crit rate on humans, so I'm gonna make a skelf warrior
>>585736456He looks like a dork
>take away tauren 1% hit chance>give it to dwarves??????????????????????
>>585736984lone wolfs only fun for meld sniper+aimed shot bullshit otherwise its boring
>>585737097unironically hunter
>>585737148problem?
60% movement speed from level 1? FAIR and BALANCED
>>585737139better than fags posting basedjak pointing TOP RACE FOR DAD GAYMERS IN WOW FOREVER FOR 77 year OLD UNCS
>horde racials still giganerfed>orcs nerfed AGAIN>overpowered nelf, gnome racials untouched>human slightly nerfed but also buffedhordesissies, how could this happen to us?
Man fuck this nerf bullshit. Unironically they should just nerf the races I don't play and give them to the races I do play.
Reminder: Having interacted with you non-humans in this thread for a month-ish now, im pretty sure most of you are brown…
>>585737163Nah, its for raid bosses where pet is useless.
>>5857365095% pet damage is absolutely nothing, in both pvp and pve. Especially when you consider demo is probably the only spec that is actually going to be using a pet in raids. It's just an overall nerf for orc.
>somehow nelf and gnome dps steroid were untouchedlaughable
>>585737139he looks like someone wow was made for, and he should be supported
forever is gonna be dogshit
>>585736706Tauren hunters will be flying through zones, shooting at mobs and stealing tags with 0 intention of actually fighting. The amount of rubber-banding mobs suddenly refilling a zone that a hardcore player thought was safe will be akin to a true zombie plague.Funny ass shit.
>>585737396Now with the nerfs I agree
>>585737286i said fun not good
i dont give a shit about Forever anymore the more they touch classic the worse it becomes this company is fucking incompetent. Waiting for fresh fucking off until then peace
>>585737080you could have downloaded the client for stress test
>>585737318Is horde going to cry about 10% damage for 8 seconds now?
>>585737237they need to add one hundred hour long epic quests, impossibly difficult solo missions, world altering quests shit like that
AAAAAIEEEEE MY RACIAL WAS NERFED FROM 2.5% TO 2% THIS IS FUCKING UNPLAYABLE BLIZZARD WHY DO YOU HATE MY RACE AND ONLY MY RACE I KNOW OTHERS ALSO GOT NERFED BUT ITS MY RACE THAT YOU'RE ALWAYS NERFING WHY CANT YOU JUST LET ME HAVE EVERYTHING AT ALL TIMES WHY OH MY GOD THE GAME IS DEAD NOW ITS DEAD ON ARRIVAL FOREVER DEAD BECAUSE MY 2% DPS INCREASE ISN'T 2.5% IT'S SO FUCKING OVERRRRRRRRRRRR
Imagine running through the shimmering flats looking for a scorpid when suddenly you see a bear running toward you at mount speed.What do?
Hordebrowns lost HAHAHAHAHAHABack to the breaking barn where you belong
Ok I'll agree that losing 1% haste sucks but I like the dagger animations more for skelves so I'm sticking with them
>>585737469im sorry but you just cant jerk off to this and pretend you're not a cuck on some level.
>>585736743undead literally had 0 pve racials in classic and nobody gave a fuck, half of horde rolled them anywaybuncha slack jawed faggots
>>585737508this but unironically
Does human spirit increase to 10% make it better for priest than gnome?
every time they change the racials it's somehow even more retarded than the last
>>585737529moonfire obviouslyas a night elf druid *I* am the fastest nigger on the african plains and I will be sure to remind those retarded bulls of that
>>585737234100% getting nerfed.
>>585737469Based
>>585737618No because the human priest racials still suck ass and gnome got broken ones
>>585737148Seethe Hordejeet
60% move speed sounds really really fucking nice for getting around pre-mount. also 30% move speed for sky elf too.
>>585737618for pve yesnelf and gnome is better in pvp
how pea brained do you have to be to care about balance changes for a 20 year old game. i can only imagine nearly every single one of you is unemployed and has nothing else going on in your life.
>>585737649>bear running at you full speed>moonfire>stares at you while he dies
I wish nightelf had a ginger hair option. Like autumn leaves it makes sense lore wise.
>>585737508Unfortunately I don't look like this but I do say this
>only alliance race for shaman>completely worthless racials that do nothingits over.
>>585736570Can't you be in stealth as a druid to build up stacks?
>>585737340Copy that
>wanted to play undead warlock even though they were slightly worse>orcs get buffed
>>585737437ahh
>>585737297BASED BLIZZDelicious noshoes tears
These last minute changes really have me worried about the future of this game. Does Blizzard know what they're doing?
>>585737727k
YOU WILL NEVER OUTRUN A TAURENDON'T EVEN TRY, YOU HAVE NO CHANCEhttps://youtu.be/Bm36Z4yWRkc?t=11
>>585737618Nightelf is better for priest.
>>585737765troonstatus?
1% hit is actually huge
>>585737834they havent made a single good change if the game wasnt fucking classic at its core it would be dogshit.
>open wowhead>first thing I see is humans getting ever so slightly nerfed>fear the worst>immediately see orc is also nerfed, and past nerfs weren't overturned>nor undead racials>tauren nerfed and the meme racial gets buffedhuman chads we eatin good
Ally still gonna have faster bg ques wont they? Even with recolored blood elves?
It'll be fun running around as Tauren for a while but will be fairly pointless after 40.
>>585737834lol fuk no. It's like watching a fish flopping about on the deck thinking its in control of the ship.
>60% movement speed>'tauren nerfed' are you faggots for real movement speed is WAY WAY WAY more important than 1% crit or hit why do you think it's so rare???
>>585737508
>dwarf +1% hitI'll take it.
>Horde desperately needs buffs before the patch>Orc loses 1% crit>Tauren now has NO DPS RACIAL WHATSOEVER>Undead TotG still raped>Skelf run speed got halved in duration and still doesn't stack with other ms bonusesWE DID IT, AGGREND! WE SAVED THE HORDE!
>>585737894He's a self-admitted chud so I say 50/50 in 5 years
>>585737770>losing 1% crit is a buff>5% damage on your pet that you don't use to do damage anyway is goodnew cope has emerged
>>585737739azeroth doesn't have seasons. the planet's axis spins on a perfect 90 degree angle with the sun. that's why none of the zones ever change.
>>585737927Yep we won bigly, Bliz making sure our faction dominates in Forever so the servers don't become 100% Horde dominated like FaerlinaGoing to be a bloodbath of noshoes jeets getting buck broken
>>585737765the fuck are those vampire bite marks on his neck?
Orcbros this fat fucking faggot just completely erased us from WoW. Any commends?
>>585738010not even slightly. kiting mobs, pvp, think about it for a sec please its incredibly broken
ahlaundoh confirmed alli is the choice now no matter what, horde is dumpster
>>585738138JUST FOLLOW THE FUCKING ARROW
>>585738063>>Tauren now has NO DPS RACIAL WHATSOEVERI like how we got the same as dwarf, then they just took our old racial and we get fuck all...
>>585737857all it takes is a single instant cast to stop you dead in your tracks lil gup
>>585736983Except that's just wrong you fucking retard
>>585738101its gonna be like bene instead
>>585738027>basically a level 40 mount that takes 30 seconds to castyeah, wow, awesome bro
>>585738112Ghoulish
it's kinda lame how every game does "beta" or ptbs that nerf anything fun or interesting before it even gets to the actual game. often the devs overreact and overnerf shit in the name of "balance" until nothings really that interesting. but everyone is a metaslave so they will be picking le best racial
>>585738019Pull yourself together blizzard, its like watching a floppy fish!
>>585738063Yeah? Do they really? Do you desperately need that extra .5% total damage? Real desperate for it? You retards would be better off getting put in front of a pachinko machine
>>585738027>60% movespeed>if you run in a straight line for 3minutes and don't get hit or enter combatlol>>585738179Seethe Hordejeet, Forever is an AllyCHAD game
>>585738112some tranny faggot ai upscaled it and added that i can only assume cause they got nothing on /our/ boi
>>585738027>run near the enemy>they dot you and your racial gets deletedplainsrunning is a meme for anything other than fetch quests pre 40
Me when the game releases (I will play Horde and I will hate it).
1% hit sounds better than 2% crit damage right? dwarf shaman buffed? except resto i guess but extra hit for earth shock still sounds nice?
whyyyyy did they have to give warrior that busted ass trinket racial? im so close to being the nelf warrior of my dreams but i want to pvp and that racial is non-negotiable
>>585737469me on the left
>>585738141>pvpany damage knocks the stacks off so you'll never have a chance to use this in pvp
>>585738027Pretty much only good for going from a to b or if youre a gold farmer.
>>585738138I kneel AliyCHAD dev!
>>585738298this was brimming with soul until>blood elf
>ally now has better pve and pvp racialsOk, now what?
Still rolling Orc Warrior
>>585738205>>585738235>>585738257>>585738358hunter exists you dumb niggers
>>585738313It's a straight nerf to any healer which dwarf had access to 3
>>585738313it's better unless it's impossible to avoid getting too much hit, which it probably won't be
>>585738298why does his screenshoot look like AI
>>585738313yes, it's lame still but much more relevant than crit damage which was out of touch and from retail where they were doing millions of damage each hit on a boss
>>585738381Hordejeets seethe and shit themselves until launch
>>585738409...and? >omg you can kite so good!hunter always could.
>>585738192No it is factually correct. Sorry if this bothers you.
>>585738415>dwarves were the worst priest so no one cares>hit is actually useful on druid and shaman while sacrificing a pathetic amount of throughput when mana is almost always your real limiting factor
>>585738415why dont dorfs have some extra mining skill or something
>>585738462they hate each other btw
>annihilates the orcoid menace once and for allwhy is he so based
female human magepvp solo
>all races are simming within 2-3% of each other on all classes>people are still having autistic spergouts over racialsBlizzard should implement a "choose your own racial" system and anyone who picks the good ones just gets permabanned from both posting online and also the game.
unironically troll is the best warrior race now
>>585738523I think he's baiting because I don't think anyone could be confused by it
wtf son of gavinrad 0_0
>>585738549>+15 mining skillBecause Forever is about replacing boring racials.
>>585738369Just imagine it's blue.
>>585738313Yes, it's nothing crazy but it's at least decent and useful for basically everybody.
>>585738579im now force to go the giraffe race or ill never get into a raid or dungeon group, I fucking hate that fat fuck ruining my entire year!
who the fuck do I go for arms warrior nowunironically human, dwarf and gnome and nelf look good
>>585738563what if a nelf druid kitty cat starts following you around and healing you and rooting your enemies?
>>585738560He hates the noshoes faction primarily played by jeetbrowns and tranny streamers
>>585738068pet damage scales with your stats, according to sim pet does about 20% or more your total damage as warlock
i would rather they had deleted plainsrunning entirely and just gave tauren another 5% health to be honest with youfucking stupid meme racial
>>585738181>>585738462you niggers could drop dead and the general would be in such a better state without your faggot presences
>>585738298wtf does that say dominator the new stuffed pizza...cage?
is there an actual lore reason why sully whitemane has to have her cheeks out for fighting the forsaken?
>>585738590I've learned not to underestimate stupidity. He may be genuinely illiterate.
Maybe blizzard was just always shit The Warcraft 3 writer, THE guy. Thinks there is zero mora complexity or greatness. He wrote his story thinking arthas is just evil. He was bad from the start. And he actively hates any interpretation otherwise.Couple that with every blizzard dev that gets interviewed coming across as a dumb frat bro, metzens utter cluelessness and horrible consulting Maybe they’re literally just lucky
>>585738667I recognize that style
>those racial changesHoly fuck how utterly sovlless
>>585738205>movement speed of any amount is BiS non-negotiable talent for every class that has one>triply so for normal players who don't autistically XP/h maximize by killing everything in their path from A to B>nah bro a lvl 40 mount's worth of movement speed isn't a big deal it's a nothingburger
>>585738703>nooo muh noshoes breaking barn joke race got a meme racial!!
>>585738745She's a slut, do you ask women on the street if there's a lore reason why they dress like sluts?
>>585738737shame that won't happen isn't ityou can always cope and seethe more
>>585738793orc pet racial is sovl, tauren running at 60% speed is giga sovl retard
>>585738192
>>585738338youre really going to town bro
>>585738745Hot women like to show themselves off
>gnome racial still gives immunityNo way the devs will let us have this broken racial come release date right?
It's simple really. My races should get broken racials, and your races should get negative broken racials. How is this any fun??
>>585738572You're aware that 2-3% difference is worth upgrading almost two items to an higher raid tier?
Female human warlock for my pve server raid loggin with irl friendsfemale human rogue for rp-pvp fun and getting orc'dmale dwarf warrior for rp-pvp dwarf only guild
>>585738613its lore accurate atleast as opposed to 1% hit cause uhhh i guess they have strong hands from uhhh mining all day
>>585738745morale boost
>>585738745to disperse excess heat
>>585738926Since tomorrow we'll be able to create the characters I don't think they'll change the racials after that. So let's hope it stays
How is tauren running at mount speed not brokenly retarded?
>>585738794Movespeed means a lot less when it instantly wears off in combat. Plainsrunning is obviously amazing for leveling but sucks at 60.They actually fucking fixed this issue last patch by also giving it 3% mount ms so it wouldn't be worthless at 60. But now they've doubled down on the leveling aspect of plainsrunning for some reason.
>>585738935You're aware that no one, especially not (You), will ever play the game at a level where it will make a noticeable difference in anything you do in the game?
God why can’t they go more extreme with the racials? Can they seriously not think of anything other than crit chance criticism damage haste whatever the fuck in tiny changes? We only have plainsrunning because it was a holdover from alpha when actual developers with hearts made this game
>>585738205Even after like 5s its still one of the best racials in the game. Even in PvP, since it means you can move around BGs faster or just outrun people before combat even starts.
>>585738560>watching one of the podcasts>some noshoe player asks aggrend where the horde back entrance to hall of thanes that one woman spoke about at blizzcon is>aggrend just smirks and responds "where the alliance back entrance to RFC is"holy hell he really hates the noshoes
>>585738745She for He
>>585738794>The racial that helps you lvl slightly faster is more important than any sort of stat racial when the entire game will be chasing stat upgrades at 60… FOREVERLMAO go on bro, tell us more about this broken racial! :)
delete all combat racials, only enable flavor racials. i was in favor of combat racials but these devs have no fucking clue how to do them and I'd rather launch with flavor RP bullshit and have that forever than the absolute travesty that was announced today.
every day, this game comes closer and closer to just being an overtuned and bland retail minus.
>>585738874This, orc unlike civilized races don't befriend their pets, they beat them with a stick like a sissy orc grug beating his peon lover before he does the dirty, hence why the poor animals get 5% damage from sheer seethe from having a halfwit master who smells like feces
>>585738502you can kite things you couldn't beforeyou can kite without having to worry about getting dazed or running out of manayou can do more damage while kiting because sitting there and putting in two autos will not slow you down so much that you need to run for longer to get away
HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA
>>585739031holy based wtf i love aggrend now
I was pretty dead set on playing a horde shaman but the horde has been really annoying me with racials and general attitude. Watched this movie last night and now I want to roll an occult studying human warlock on RPPVP inspired by Depp in this.
>>585738613>Because Forever is about replacing boring racials.>holy fuck you guys they gave this race +1% crit and then gave this race +1% hit how did they think of this stuff
Nelf is the strongest race for warrior, thank you aggrend I can slutmog it up as a female nelfie now without any worry
>>585739019no you don't understand I need to play the ugly race I hate and treat all my characters like skinnerboxes because the streamer I watch and who does all my thinking for me said I have to!!!!!
>>585738409thisit's breddy good on hunter
Remove racial and I still be into the game, blizz.
>>585738745It's actually to demoralize them. They'll see her and feel like they'd pop a boner but then they look down and remember they don't have their dick anymore. Massive morale debuff.
>>585738745>Whitemane gets official expensive figures while more important women in wow get none>They still refuse to give her more relevanceBlizzard clearly knows how popular she is and do nothing with her out of spite>>585739048>delete all combat racials, only enable flavor racialsThat's what I've been asking them to do for years
>>585739019Just sayin'Don't grief your raid with your shit race choice.A raid full of meme races is like playing with a missing player or two.
>>585739127So humans are BIS priest?
>>585739021lets just say there is a reason they removed it, og devs weren't retarded and realized it was completely broken
Fuck human spirit
>twink elves better warriors than big manly orcsUmmm... why?
>>585738930This but Alliance all OP. Horde all dogshit, the opposite of Classic WoW
>>585739031Horde not getting access to Thanes would make sense if they didn't give Alliance a super easy access to Ruins. Horde now has 1 dungeon Alliance aren't suppose to enter (RFC) while Alliance have TWO Horde aren't suppose to enter (Thanes & Stockades)
FUCKING BLIZZARD!!!!!
>>585739172How is it better than skelf?
>>585738742Base. Pizza base.
they added gavinrad's son in wow forever!!!!
>everyone is crying that Horde has worse racials than Alliance for both pve and pvpWhat does Blizzard do?>nerf Horde more and buff some meme tauren racial (after nerfing their combat racial)>keep Alliance the same and even buffed themLosing 1% crit for humans doesn’t mean anything. The reason Alliance is OP is because of their pvp utility and free on-use trinketsHorde is complete shit in comparison now, even worse than before. Just remove combat racials entirely at this point and keep the meme ones like treasure hunting, gliding, cannibalize, etc.
>>585738942like when you get no replies and have to samefag reply to your spam lol
>>585739273light of elune gives you 10% crit bwo on a pretty short cd plus 1% crit base and 1% movement speed
>>585739031This is one of the few things he's correct on factions and races don't need to be equal it's an rpg character choice should matter for something, the entire discourse on the forums of "but x gets y so I need to also get y" is literally retail era entitlement
>>585739029>since it means you can move around BGs faster or just outrun people before combat even startsthat's what mounts are for
the first 60 will be a tauren
Are Dwarves now Warrior bis?
>orcs lost their stun resist>orcs lost their anti-warlock stoneform>lost their 1% crit>gained 5% more damage from pets which is uselesswarlock pets are just cc machines, you keep them on passive. hunter pets you remove in raids and in pvp you take lone wolfTOTAL ORC RAPE
>>585739031HOLY FUCKING BASED
>>585739269>5% > 1%Bro it's a massive buff what else do you want
>>585739172the strongest horsenutslurper
>>585739301Its a massive horde buff lmao, alliance is literally dead as a faction now
what so alex think of all this?
>>585739301they need to remove cannibalize
>>585739231Give every race borderline broken racialsWhy notLet shadow meld work like in wc3, in turns on whenever you stand still for a certain time. PassiveGive everyone different elemental resistances and weaknesses Come on man do somethingI miss weapon specific racials
>>585739328First time I've opened this thread today but I'm glad that someone else has rustled your jimmies before I even set foot in here
>>585739392What if I play an orc that doesn't have a pet???
>>585739275there's nothing based about a pizza with half the toppings missing.
soooo every node i see on the map now belongs to taurens i guess yeah this is gonna be great
>>585739206every mana user uses spirit now
>>585738409skelf hunter is better
>>585739347Then why can Alliance enter Ruins?
>>585739016It isn't.>Removes stack when hit>Takes a century to ramp up>Does not stack with other speed effectsfor 1-20, and just 1-20, it's like hunters get cheetah at level one, and if they can successfully just shoot kite flawlessly (they also nerfed this) they can effectively be in perma ranged forever.For hunter, and hunter only, this is actually fucking amazing from 1-10. At level 10, you get your pet, and no longer need to shoot kite, rendering it just generic travel speed. At 20, it is essentially null and void because you get cheetah, functionally replacing this racial for everyone.On melee (every other tauren) it's shit and is perma cleared.I'd rather have 1 crit unironically.
>>585739368strongly considering dwarf instead human but idknelf is good for dps now goognome is unironically a decent choice too
>>585739445get a peasant caller
>>585739425*slams desk*
>>585739252>>585739475Yeah running into UC and getting graped by a zillion Horde sitting outside/running into UC from the zepp is so easy, after running halfway across the map to get thereJust put some guards outside UC and it's balanced
>>585739464just dot the cow bro>he plays a noshoe / pveohnonono
>>585739301Gnomes and dwarves still having their immunity is quite wild.
>>585739252HUUUUUUUUUUUU BLIZZAAAAAARD I'M CRYING AND SHITTING MY PANTIES OVER THIS WHY IS THERE NO ABSOLUTE PARITY IN EVERY SINGLE THING THAT EXISTS IN THE GAME???????? HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
>>585739364Oh my heckin Science! We all know tranny speed running to level cap is the most important thing in a game that lasts… Forever…
>>585739368They honestly should have just stolen the multiple reddit and forum suggestions for having drinking give you a random buff for 30 minutes
>>585739370Warlock pets are infamously very strong in Forever what the fuck are you talking about?
>>585739503item summons are guardians not pets so command doesn't affect them
>>585739558Nobody plays them, blizzard wants you to play them
>>585739442tranime seethe, we already knew, try that face in front of a mirror without suffering a mental breakdown lol
>>585738926its because its useless if its just a break against hunter which can now trap in combat
>>585739572defensive much?
>>585739095KEK massive TRVKE
only orcniggers could look at 4 useful racials when most other races have at least one meme racial and go "blizzard hates us!!"
fuck this nigger game and these nigger devs listening to niggers on reddit I HAVE FUCKING HAD IT
>>585739632slayers is manime sorry jeety learn some internet culture before you attempt to join in
Anyone who thinks Planesrunning is not a dps racial is a retardMovement speed enchant for boots is bis for a reason
>>585739576thats problematic chuddy drinking is le bad dontcha know
>>585739646defensive offfff?
Alliance blue elf is still good though right?
i wouldnt play a gnome or dwarf even if they got like +10% base crit, simply because they look fucking stupid
How is wrong again?
>>585739576Kino idea
>>585739607the incubus was strong because it was bugged, thats it.you never send your pets in on pvp because then they either get CC'd or are too far away from you to use their abilities when you need it.
>>585739206no, human priest racials are shit, dwarf nelf and gnome are better
>>585739739it's ok to be bad at the game anon
Do people realize that you don't lose all plainsrunning stack if you get hit? You only lose 1 stack every time you get damaged.
>>585739491Its not replaced by cheetah because 60% is twice as good as going 30% and youre not getting dazed when hit, just losing stacks.A Hunter running at 160% and shooting you from 40-50 yards is hilariously retarded and im baffled that anyone thought this was a good idea.
>>585739704troon lol
>>585739831It was halved, when i checked.
do you need a sub for the name reservation or just the heroic pack
>>585739827bad at what game? Fagever, obviously never played it :)
>>585739831you dont even play
>>585739784because meta chasers deserve to eternally suffer, if you want to be a minmax faggot then play your minmax faggot race
>>585739301Horde have been broken in classic with their OP racials in every iteration of classic, take the L for once hordejeet
>>585739804>CC'dDoes fuckall because of SL. Rogues and Mages basically have to find a way to kill the pet or they can't kill the Warlock, and that gives the Warlock enough time to just fear them, wait for the dispel, death coil, and whoops they lost
>>585739730movement speed enchant will be active after i just spent the last few seconds casting spells and plainsrunning won't be
>>585739886just the skelf pack, but you get no game time from it
>>585739840it does not stack with cheetah, or ghost wolf, or travel form last I checked.
>>585739784>blizzard takes out the damage racials>suddenly the same 60 IQ faggots who cry about racials will complain that cannibalism works in combat while treasure finding is useless in combatYou literally cannot win by catering to you niggers who obsess over this shit. It's impossible. The only thing blizzard should do is tell you braindead retards to shut the fuck up.
>>585739918I don't see human chuds switching to Dwarf for the 1% hit chance. I'm just fucking with you. Of course they will switch for that sweet, sweet 1%
>>585739545Alliance maybe have to do 1 corpse run to get into the instance (and they still get quests there too btw) meanwhile Horde would have to corpse run a dozen+ times to reach Thanes or Stockades.
>>585739370KEKAROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTOTAL HORDEJEET SALTMINE ITT
>>585739127What does this change for the human vs skelf mage situation
NERF NERF NERF NERFNEVER LEAVE THE STRONG STUFF ALONE AND BUFF BUFF BUFFTHE UNDERPERFORMERSIT'S ALWAYS GUTTINGI'd love to be a fly on the wall if there's actual internal discussions about this stuff or maybe they just dump it on an intern to figure out while they get their twelfth snack break of the day lol
>>585740056>was always going dwarf anywayI am content
Can't decide on my alt, fuck my lifeGonna play warrior for sure with a couple bros that might or might not make it to 60I'm torn between mage/warlock/shamanPure casters so I'm not tempted to wear the dress for fast queues Love the class fantasy and playstyle of shamans but the thing is warriors and pala tanks will prob ban shamans from their dungeon groups to hoard 2handers. Shaman leveling looks painful without water shield And top to it all off they gutted elementalI think I'll do a class census on the first week and play the least played class
>>585740081HUUUUUUUUUU BLIZZAAAAAARD MY ABSOLUTE PARITY WHERE IS IT BLIZZARD HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
>>585740056I was considering either human or dwarf from the start even when the 2% crit dmg was there cause I thought it'd be nutty for arms 1% hit chance is nice tho
okay but horde racials are still better
dwarfchade we are eating good
>>585740056>The best warrior race was staring at us the whole time
>>585739339Man I'm constantly changing plans. I thought avout skelf prot warrior, the haste is cool and the leyline thing sounds useful during leveling, but nelf gives 1% dodge chance doesn't that synergize well with prot? I think they have abilities that proc on dodge right?
>>585739980epic pack doesnt have enough to justify the price ill just get the skelf shit and get game time before launch
>>585739784>cannibalism>non-combat racial
>straight nerf for dwarf healingtankniggers get the rope
you know this fun server is going to be trash when minmaxxing racials are the only thing you guys can talk about
>>585740004It doesn't need to stack with cheetah when its giving you double what cheetah does.
>>585740229revenge works on dodge im p sure
>>585739031Timestamp for that?
Tauren Hunter easily the best race/class combo in the game now
>>585740081It's lore accurate, Lordaeron is an Alliance City after all, it makes sense we get accessNot our fault noshoes were retarded and made backdoors into UC and Org
why wouldn’t you just buff dwarf and tauren without assraping orcs? these fucking retards at blizzard have no idea what they’re doing
>>585739953anon do you know what cc means? cc isn't killing the pet, it's disabling them with abilities like fear so their abilities can't be used when you need themyou seem like a hopeless case, good luck
>>585740326>Gain 1% increased movement speed every 5 sec spent moving, up to a maximum of 30% increase. Taking damage or standing still will reduce this effect. In addition, you move 3% faster while mounted.
>horde racials dominating for 20 yearsoh it's fine>alliance racials staying the same while nerfing horde onesWTF REMOVE ALL COMBAT RACIALS! NOOOW!
>>585740224
>>585740292instead humans get 10% spirit now which is fucking bonkers for mana users on top of mana regen while casting
>>585740302>people want to play so bad that they are clinging to the smallest breadcrumbs related to gameplay they can findYeah, it's gonna be kino.
>>585740418Does Soul Link work when they are CCd? Yes or no.I'll wait for your reply, nigger.
>>585740417Orc wasn't assraped as long as you are playing a hunter!
>>585740302Its the era poopsockers, same people who have been in here obsessing over dungeon XP and restedXP
>"XARYU IS GONNA BE SO HAPPY WITH ME I JUST KNOOOOOW WUHUHUHUHU" Faggrend 2026
>>585740196...in classic era
>>585740509Uhhh Yes?
>>585740386??
>>585740567Nice spirit lol
>>585740585So disabling them doesn't matter because the Rogue/Mage can't fucking kill the Warlock while Soul Link is up. Thats the problem. They need the pet DEAD.
>>585740196true, only undead has worse racials than any of alliance races
>horde is op!!!>no alliance is op!!!!!!!!Well, which is it?
So prot warr is now just revenge counterpunch man right?
>>585740464>horde racials dominating for 20 yearsWhere the fuck do people get this from? It is spouted nonstop and is blatantly not true. People spammed Horde on retail because that is where the players where. If you wanted to actually play with people in endgame you where forced to go Horde. Then the moment they introduced cross-faction everyone moved to Alliance because they had the better racials.
>>585740523nerfing dungeonxp is completely retarded, there are many stretches in classic where there are no quests or you need a guide to know everything, grinding a dungeon a few times to get enough xp for the next batch of quests was paramount, and now its gone. why do you think the beta stopped at 30? right when quests start to become sparse
>>585740464KEK LITERALLY THISAll the noshoes tears are exquisite seeing their busted racials get brought to the same level as Alliance's
>>585740386cows are slow irl. it makes no sense.
>>585740517even then you’ll want to go lone wolf if you’re raiding, or if you’re playing survival.
>>585740595Uhh you can run faster, and you have more hp! These are desirable traits for hunter dps!
>>585740021>but if you legalize weed soon you will have to legalize cannibalism!!!!you can just stop mid slide, bro
>>585740509how does an orc demon doing 5% damage have anything to do with soul link?meds now
>>585740718correct
>wanted to make a pretty night elf but now all the minmax chuds will flock onto it since its probably one of the best racials nowwhy do i need to suffer
>>585739095
>>585740229night elf is the best because 10% crit for 15 seconds is insane for a tankeverything else is meaninglessdwarf is pretty good too though
>>585740493Gnomes are still the better priests. Dwarf has access to literally 3 fucking healing classes and got smacked for it. Fucking awful.
Reading this thread reminded me that most people that play wow dont even play the game to have fun anymore. you just want a second job and your only concern is being the most efficient slave at everything in the game and getting mad at every tiny inconvenience to your grand efficiency.
>Orcs literally became the raped lion meme
>>585740567kek bodied that hordejeet>>585740682>copiumOnly troll has good racials or orc if you're a hunter
>>585740725
personally i like the idea of making a race/class combo character that's powerful but lorewise is an unusual or fucked up thing lorewise so doesn't typically happen. Kind of like how in Overlord one of the strongest PvPers ever is a paladin who is also a weird bug monster
>>585740815dwarf is better for pvp imo but nelf is really fucking comfy
>>585740787night elf literally has two dead racial slots for pve, arguably three
>>585740447The "new patch notes" we're discussing says its 60%
>>585740748>bro just stop when the races I care about have the advantage broKill yourself
>>585740720Are you a literal retard? Did you miss the part where there are over 1000 extra quests in the game including entire new zones? What level bracket do you think riverlands is?
>Read Leyline gives +50% health/mana regen for 15s with 2m cd>using it at a ley line gives you Attuned buff for 1h>Attuned makes Read Leyline give +100% health/mana regen for 15s with 2m cdAm I understanding this correctly?
>>585740743Does Plainsrunning work in combat? Cause if a Tauren Hunter can keep that up and running that is a 60% Aspect of the Cheetah with no daze and you can still use Hawk alongside it
>>585740857
BRAINLETS, ALL OF YOU>>585740685Racial balancing was always a meme and horde essentially got a full kit of all amazing shit and then they gave literal joke skills to alliance. They buffed alliance to actually get useful racials, but those racials are still hampered by being faithful to the originals and remain worse than horde, so that's why you got something fucking crazy like +2 crit just to make minmaxers be okay with going alliance.It's just giving alliance literally something to play with.
>>585740841
The constant flip-flopping on something as trivial and easy to nail as racial bonuses is honestly very concerning
orcs absolutely bodied. hows it feel, cuck?
>another week>another horde humiliation ritual
>>585740857KEEEEEEEK Every jeet who rolls Horde now has negative izzat
>>585740945yes
>>585740945Yes so you have to be attuned to get the regen it had before this patch. The duration is still nerfed though.
i don’t want to play anymore.
>>585740906Remove all the fatties and old people from the averages and humans can run as fast as a cow
>>585739031holy based
>>585740945Yep that was my takeaway too
I play twice for (you)
>>585740259>literally can't use it in combat
>'horde humiliation ritual'>biggest alliance 'win' is 1% hit chance on a race with maybe the worst meme racials to ever do it
>>585740685Neither side is OP wholesale. The only time you will ever notice a racial is when an ability is used (stoneform, will of the forsaken) etc. Which is ironic because the retards in here are only talking about the minuscule passive racials that will never, ever make a difference in anything they do.If you genuinely care about racials and want to pick the race most beneficial you would look at the active abilites they get access to, not some irrelevant 1-2% passive increase to some stat that will never be relevant.
>>585740918think you mistyped, night elf racials are best in pve(player vs equine)
You fags didn't wanna believe me, no one even replied to my leak post. I told you. Now I'm not gonna leak all the other shit I know.>>585641094>>585641094>>585641094
>>585740815Maybe, but I value passive buffs much higher since they are always on and I don't have to worry about reminding myself to use them
You don't actually have a team right?
>fem cute nelf rogue>male rapeface dwarf warriorI got my chars ready.
>>585741106I'll play for you, King
>>585740768Nice, its mostly what I wanted
>>585741058It's so amazing, thank you aggrend>>585741052they're all buckbroken ITT
>>585740906male cows can do 35ai is dogshit
>>585740841Reading this thread really opens your eyes to how many fucking shitskins are now on the net.
>>585739252who fucking cares about short low level dungeons
Where are the undead buffs? They completely raped the undead racial
orc still has better racials than night elf undead tauren trolls and probably skelves but orc players will piss their diapers if they aren't #1
>>585739095I can't wait to roll an orc demo lock and send my succubus with a black eye (she walked into a door frame, didn't you honey?) into combat while I sit back and hurl beer bottles at the back of her head
Blood Fury should be buffed to 25%
>>585741230Alright impressive I'll admit. But the rest didn't come to fruition
>>585741192>sheeps you>combat drops>cannibalize to full hp
>>585741293its probably why i dont find the internet as fun anymore now that i think about it, they are infesting everywhere
>>585741230Leak whatever you want
my racials… MY RACIALS!!!
>>585741230>look I got lucky on a couple easy guesses>im definitely legit
>another wave of racial nerfs>nothing on the internet
>>585741207NEW NOSHOES COPE JUST DROPPED>dwarves they're a meme race..and us Horde don't have them...tauren and their meme racial doesn't count!!!
>>585741254Agree, sounds fun. I like the way the shield spec talent works with revenge. Makes shield block crazy and taking improved shield wall seems really nice.
>>585741316I, too, approve of orc warlocks taking engineering and cooking.
whats the tanking situation like in forever? are all tanks equal?
>>585741230Leak shaman stuff then. Too bad you won't bitch.
>>585740938>half are horde and alli so 500>half of those are skelf quests>so 250 at best dogshit collect 15 bear asse and talk to sharquisha johnson about your dick removalthanks blizzard
Alliance skelf racial should be 100% mana and health regen even in combat
>a second gryphon has hit the orgrimmar zeppelin tower sir
>>585741376Cause the rest is gonna be announced in another post. This is just the racial re-work announcement. Wait. It's still being discussed in the office atm, this might be after launch cause aggrends too busy doing meet-n-greets and shit.
member when in 2019 every pvp player went horde because of their busted racials?
>>585741307night elf racials are better than orc10% crit is better than blood fury, smeld is now amazing in pvp
>>585741376To give him the benefit of the doubt they only showed racial changes right now. The other stuff would be in the class change notes which i personally assume will be put out either tuesday or thursday.
leak the future content then faggotyes I'm talking to (You)
>>585741316>succubusI think you meant Incubus noshoes, you orcs are peculiar bucks who like to play dirty with the peons
Ley Line nerfed exactly as I predicted.
Me? I'm gonna play female blue elf on Horde.
>>585741220>steal 10% of your hp>fear+cannibalizeehehe
>>585741461I wish a proper self funded thorns build would be viable, give a 5 pointer talent for prot to return some damage taken from block or something
Mulgore is going to look like the Indy 500, at least there's that
I see literally nothing btw, he's just trying to get attention.
>>585740787nelf racial is way overrated, autoattacks are pretty easily crit capped and warrior has recklessness already
>>585741307seriously thinking nelf and gnome went under the radar, nice try naga
>>585741594Orcs now have to pay 1% crit per 10 levels
>>585741464paladin is dogshit atm
>>585741296Good riddance LMAO
>>585740841>2nd
>>585741594Worgen and Goblins come in January
The interracial fantasy projection broke him for a minute.
>>585740871demo warlock is highest simming spec right now and orc is bis for themAnd im pretty sure these ai slop sims dont value stacking blood fury with other CDs
PalaGODS we keep getting kino
>>585741384You're unironically better in your own private discord/chat servers with close friends now. Modern net is just shitskins trying to one up each other shitskins, which in general just turns everything into shit.
>>585740931thats not what i wrotelearn english, monkey
my nelfie wont be able to outrun those big horny Tauren bulls anymore...https://files.catbox.moe/ejg87r.mp4
>>585737508I say this
>>585741636I can't wait to see how many skeletons there'll be at the bottom of the Thunder Bluff elevators after retards careen off them at 60mph
>>585740841I can tell you exactly what I want. I want numbers to go up, so I need to pick a choice that is better than the rest because then my number do go up bigger and faster.
>>585741495downboating all of these noshoes posts on my 10 accsaggrend doesn't need to see their whining>>585741543yep and Alliance put up with it, how the tables have turned
I DONT WANT TO PLAY A FUCKING ORC WARLOCK FUCK SAKE BLIZZARD YOU DUMB CUNTS
>everyday read new nerfs to racials>everyday struggle to decide class and race>end of day make my decision>a new day starts, return to point onesheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit
>>585741381>out of combat
>Raid difficulties are coming>Dragonflying is coming>Personal loot is comingThere… ive already said more than I should…
>>585741916You must minmax or else..
Mudhutter whining ruined things for everyone, just as expected.
>>585741916larp as guldan
>Horde skelf can now get up to 30% ms>but it STILL doesn't fucking stack with other ms>So if you pick skelf shaman it is 100% always better to press ghost wolf in every situation instead of the racial
>Shaman Tank>Tauren +5% Stamina >300 Mining +5% Stamina>6% Dodge from Anticipation>5% Parry from Spirit Weapons>5% Block from Shield>+4% stamina from Improved Reincarnation>+4% dodge from Agility totem>Stoneskin totem>Even gives mana to healersYeah, Shaman Tank is fucking here to stay.
>>585741935Drsgonflying is gay af but the rest good
>>585741916Uh oh how are you gonna ever be able to play this game unless you have that 5% extra pet damage nonny? All content in the game is literally balanced specifically for that racial bonus btw
>>585741504leak the duskwood haunted house dungeon, what level is it for?
>>585741916just don't play demo it's a boring spec anyway
>>585741630I think a passive thing like that would make more sense for prot paladins, let warriors have the active CROSSCOUNTER play.
>>585741981well mana cost is there for ghost wolf so maybe once a month you might use the racial
>>585740464>le heckan horde racials were op!!!Lmao no, cuckliance players were just notoriously shit.
>Vulpera summer 2027>Drakthyr fall 2027>Shadowlands early 2028There, now take my leaks and choke on them!
>>585741916warlocks do not send their pets into combatits a useless racial
>>585741784But I like being anon and I don’t like installing shit on my pc
reminder that if you play horde, 90% of your time will be sitting in a desert with 3 mudhuts as your "capital city"
What was the point of the beta if they're still going to be randomly buffing/nerfing shit?
>>585742129>noshoes thinks 25% stun resist and WOTF wasn't broken kek they're seething so hard at the racial nerfs they're becoming deluded from rage
>>585742183except they literally do
>>585742232I'm not going to go alliance femnelf and be a tranny, sorry.
>>585742129>>585740719if you wanted to play in a successful pve guild - you had to join the horde because of their racials; I played that game and remember it all
>>585742015>>5857420315% pet damage is huge wtf
Faggrend is going to get the rope if he doesn't buff shockadin
>we’re doing a tuning pass on some of the remaining passive bonuses to help ensure that they aren’t skewing outcomes in a way that limits player preferences>anyway here's cows on meth
>>585742307nigga what
>>585741981skelf speed buff stacks with mount speed so it's still useful even on shaman
>>585742129you're going to get rolled in forever noshoes cuck, enjoy your faction with the streamer troons and browns
>>585742232I make UC my home because it’s comfy and closer to dungeons I want to run anyway
>>585739193>Blizzard clearly knows how popular she is and do nothing with her out of spiteat this point i think we are all better off if they don't
Orc hunter is BIS now. BM will be top competitive spec in pve and pretty good in generic pvp, so orc is gonna be amazing.
>>585742291I meant for pvp obv
Blizzard is horizontally progressing a shit log from their anus into your mouth, forever.
>>585742307Freudian slip
>>585742307>hordejeet not randomly sperging about trannies for 5 minutes challenge (level: impossible)
>>585742274wotf is only good against two classes and the the stun resist isn't guaranteed like the op as fuck human version. Even the current gnome racials are twice as busted as any horde ones.
>>585742419all the streamers are going alliance though?>>585742472lol no BM is still shit compared to surv
>>585742036that 60% damage boost talent also looks fucking juicy200+ free counter punches at lvl 60 is still pretty nice, especially since that offensive ability rage reduction makes revenge cost 2 fucking rage, you have it for free, always
>>585742307the femnelf trannies will be on PvE or the RP serverAnd you can just avoid playing them anyway, why do you insist if you go Alliance you have to be a female nelf? Do you have AGP?
>>585736226>>585736205https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv13gl0a-FAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atuFSv2bLa8Post Tauren Hunter sound tracks
>>585739193What do you want them to do? They’ve already done way more with her than a dead mid level dungeon boss deserves
>>585742274its not 1/4 stun resist its 1/5 reduced stun duration literally the most useless shit - i'd take 1/5 stun resist in a second
>>585742232I like Thunder Bluff though...
>>585742472lol no. every hunter pvp spec will use lone wolf.command is useless for pvp
>>585742309The last time Horde had any sort of racial advantage in pve was MoP with Trolls. They have never had a leg up against Alliance on dps for over a decade.
>>585742392Its 15 seconds so by the time you mount up it's almost over
an obese guy whos only known for making that dogshit sod is your lead dev and you expect this to be good
still not seeing the racial changes btw
>>585742493go back to poeg
>>585742575erm why is he on a mount in this picture
>>585740719People originally went horde cause they were monstrous barbarians. Now they are faggy brown people. So alliance is now chud coded- plus we can get our gfs (male) to play with us without triggering their body dysphoria.
>>585742543>lol no BM is still shit compared to survSurv wont come online till you have some raid gear, BM will be cranking from preraid bis and scale very well with gear. Also if you wanted to play a melee class why the fuck are you picking hunter, retard.>>585742609You are bad at the game. Have you not seen how insane the pet scaling is?
>>585742440>>585739193They already gave her a granny VA in the WC3 xpack, you do NOT want them to redo all her fucking lines if she gets new content
Has anyone who's played Warlock in classic tell how it feels to play one in Forever? I'm thinking of rolling one because I always loved their class fantasy.
>9 more days of my gay life without wow forever
>>585742264streamer tournament and cloutvertising
>>585742436based, uc is the only good horde city.
>>585742678have you ever played pvp before? pets either just get cc'd the entire fight or get killed whenever it overextends and its the only thing people can target
>>585742562You could almost say it's better than free, since every block dodge or parry that triggers a revenge also grants you 5 rage due to shield spec and master of defense I think it's called.
>>585742309I literally raided as alliance on a ne mm hunter in vanilla. Alliance had pallys and fear ward lmao. What a revisionist cuck you are!
>>585742802Learn to control your pet better, also BW.
>>585742232>>585742594As a member of the Shen'dorei, I will stick to helping my Tauren allies ascend to even greater heights of civilization and development. If Warchief Thrall wants to keep squatting in his punishment desert out of some sense of green guilt, he can do so on his own.
>>585742670>People originally went horde cause they were monstrous barbarians.If you ignore the vast majority of the Horde playerbase only 2 years into the game's 22 year lifespan
>>585741761>worgenLet’s not go down this dark path a second time
When will we get a new healing class? No dps just 3 healing specs
>>585742678>Also if you wanted to play a melee class why the fuck are you picking hunter, retard.Look at me, im the top dps now.
>>585739784because the racials aren't the issue, the retards that choose what to play based on them are
>>585742678>Also if you wanted to play a melee class why the fuck are you picking hunter, retard.because warrior and rogue are fucking boring and everyone's played them to death?
>>585739042broken endgame racials like find treasure and underwater breathing
Horde tranny faggots seething>horde favoured entirety of vanilla, tbc, wrath and cata as the best pve and pvp racials>finally alliance gets love and they get nerfed>REEEEE WTF WTF WTF AAAAH BLIZZARD?!?!??!
Is it too late to request a refund on the $60 preorder pack? I can't imagine myself ever playing the sky elves.
Why the FUCK are orcs now nerfdWhy THE FUCK ARE HUMANS NOW OP AS FUCK
>>585741650>I can't stack my racial with my 30(thirty) minute cooldown because I hit the crit cap of 60%
bro where
>taurens are now a lvl 1 60% MS mountwhy
WE NEED MORE PROFESSIONS. 200 OR MORE
>>585741636I miss the crackhead cows jittering everywhere to maintain movement stacks, even on the Thunderbluff hellevator
>>585743006word on the street is that blizzard nukes your battle net account if you get a refund
>>585743015Fatman and his streamer minions all play alliance
>>585742894I play orc though... I just like Thunder Bluff way more than Org...
>>585743001uhhh, did you just mention expansions AFTER vanilla?!!?!?!
>>585742316only benefits 2/6 orc classes
>>585742859>BW2 min CDimagine thinking BM is good in pvp
>>585739784He's correct.
>>585742841im talking about retail
>>585743001>wrath and catahaha yeah remember when they gave humans a full pvp trinket as a racial in wrath? haha sure was a lot of horde favoritism am I right?
I unironically prefer trannies to browns. FOR THE ALLIANCE!
>>585739269>>585739445its a good change, orcs are still far and away strong, so getting a possible dead racial is fine
>>585743129Alliance are the most blandest fucking fantasy races everHoly FUCK
>>585742832the blocks fuel themselves through that talent, shield block gives 2 blocks and 5 rage per at a 10 rage cost, perfectly neutral, revenge would still technically cost you, though at 2 rage that shit is nearly just freeBut thats only from blocks from shield block, not ones you get passivelyrevenges only bottleneck is its 5 sec CD, and since shield block is also 5 sec, you can have it on cd permanently, itll always be pressablehonestly if it didnt have that 5 sec CD it would be broken
People meme about Undead being unfair vs Warlock and Priest but Alliance has way more OP racials>Gnomewarriors/rogues with escape artist. denying frostbite burst and nova is the difference between losing and winning against mage. same for druid, hunter, etc. generally just the most useful racial in the game imo with how strong root/slow is in classic>Dwarfmost slept on race. completely fucks rogues in 1v1 by denying them blind resets. Insanely broken pvp racial>Humanoverrated but perception is still OP for RvR duels and Emfh is still very good into rog/pala/druid People say Alliance warlock is bad but the true CBT is being a Horde rogue
Yep, it's time for my night elf male giga chad warrior.>level as prot>make my own dungeon groups on the way to 60>invite only casters>get all the gear>people will marvel at what a good tank i am, in reality im slapping my keyboard and pressing revenge and sunder while im watching aqua teen hunger force and harvey birdman on my 2nd monitortime for some kino leveling.
>>585743167you do realize alliance is full of transistors
I finally fucking found it:Jesus.https://www.wowhead.com/forever/news/racial-ability-tuning-pass-for-wow-forever-383597
>>585743167Troons are all playing Horde now because they hate Asmon.
>>585743001>favored>when alliance got the better flight paths, priest racial, had pallys, and had more quests for leveling
>Blizzard has barely begun patching Fagever>Ladybois losing dey mind alreadyYa’ll in for a wild ride lmao xD
is the human spirit increase good for ret
>>585743246Im going to level as prot night elf but not use a shield even in dungeons
>>585743249Can you read?
>>585743132As a free orc, you shouldn't feel forced to suffer in that shithole Durotar just because your Warchief does. Kalimdor is open to us, brother.
>>585743249Yes Juan, and the fact your ESL ass didn’t understand it cements my point.
>>585742031warlock has 5 different builds and they all play the same except affliction which will be shit
>>585743058Crit cap is around 40% on whites retard, it was a non issue in classic because of HS queueing
Orc Savage removed (1% increased critical strike chance). Command re-added, increasing Warlock and Hunter pet damage by 5%.AHAHHAHAHH what teh fuck AHHAHHA
>Dwarf gets 1% hit racialDORFBROS WE ARE SO BACK
>>585743162This is a CLASSIC+ general sir. Retoilet discussion belongs in wowg.
>>585743224The pvp tryhards always went Alliance on private servers for a reason.
>New Tauren Racial: Yeehaw - Go down on all four and allow up to 2 party members to ride on your back. Cancelled on taking damage or entering combat.watch this happen
>>585743263The problem is they are scrolling Reddit all day counting cry baby tears.These changes are basically ripped directly from the biggest cry baby posts that have been trending in the wowforever and wowclassic subs.If they are going to keep bending over backwards for the noisy minority and their every whim, they are going to lose the interest of a lot of people.
>>585743132Papers, please
>>585743341Thank you brother...
don't care, still rolling undead warlock
>>585743480yep
Other than Tauren gimmick being kinda fun, I just dont see a future on Horde.
NO NO NOO NOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ORC BROS NOT LIKE THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let's get some NSFW femtaurs in here to celebrate their free lvl 1 mounts
Isn't 10% spirit pretty damn good for healers?
The lore reason sally whitemane dresses like that is because shes the strongest priest in the verse
>>585742493>Quin69 chatter escapes from his prison cell
>>585743468A worthy challenger to WorgCars
>weapon racials were too specific, removed>lets add a racial that is even more specific and useless on the majority of classesfreaking epic
>>585743417>Remove curse>Blood fury>stun reduction>5% pet dmg>trinket (likely doesn't stack with insignia)>1% crit>spirit>Stealth perceptionorc is still better desuThat tauren shit is fucking insane bullshit btw
>>585743431unironically we are so fucking back bro
Tauren has the best pvp and pve racial in the game, but you idiots are wetting the bed about 1% crit. Jesus I’m going to love corpse camping you brown retards.
>>585743001It's your typical brownoid "gibsmedat" entitlement.
So are the sky elves still OP?
no ear ring is kind of a bummer
>>585743709No they don't, youre retarded.
Why are people pretending the tauren racial wont benefit combat? You'll still often get moments of 4-10% speed which adds up
>>585743763SD model
>>585743724MUH DICK
>>585742609>all my pvp was done afking in av>what do you mean people use pets in the bgs that have pvp in them
>>585743663they specifically said they were reverting their stance on not having racials be too specificweapon racials were not removed for being specific, they were removed because they would fuck up what types of weapons they could ad to a raid for the entirety of the game foreverI get that youre a horde nigger ESL retard crying because you think going from S+++ to S+ then to S isnt fair, but please run the patch notes through google translate before you try and discuss them next time
>>585743737yeah OP for being rapebait
>>585743737They're good but not completely pants on head retarded
>>585743709>only race in the entire game with no dps racial anymore>best pve race
Humans actually have less crit now, they swapped an entire crit for 5% spirit, essentially downscaling their gains. Nelf is probably better desu.And that orc racial is still just an insane net damage boost to hunters. Making it still a 4x good toolkit. I honestly think that's kind of better for hunters.
FUUCKKKK I WANT TO PLAYI WANTTO PKAYTHENFUCKIGN GAME9 FUCKING DAYS AAHHHHHHHHHH FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUYYUUUUCK
>>585743887>they were removed because they would fuck up what types of weapons they could ad to a raid for the entirety of the game foreverthat is the dumbest bullshit i have heard in my life. you should kill yourself
>>585740081Approximately how many corpse runs to get into RFC as Alliance?
Don't forget the hidden racial tauren has if you are melee>hits you from further away and through pillars
bruh
>>585743983if you manage to get on zep to orgri it's somewhat free but it'll be like 10-30 corpseruns in durotar
>>585743869tell us more about how your pet is super valuable in group pvp and doesn't just get cc'd and nuked constantly
>>585744010doesn't that allow others to hit you from further away too? i
>>585743417
>>585743978
>>585743978yes, that is what the blizzard post saidyou are a fucking retard nigger ESL
for mounts specifically, isn't the horde skelf racial change a nerf? it used to be a static +10% before but now it's effectively like +4% no?
So skelf get their haste nerfed (wasn't even OP at 3%) AND they get their only other real racial absolutely gutted, AND horde version is still completely fucking useless. These dipshit devs are going to drive this game into the ground faster than retail did.
>Overly nerfing sky elf racials cause people were crying p2wgood god
>>585743978cry about it
>>585743949Do we know if the BM's hawks count as pets
>>585744073>skyelf pussy is like 1 pixel tightFFFFFFFFFFUUUCK MUH ORC DICK
Nerf only specified Innervate btwYou can still double dip with evocate and eating/drinking
orc and human racials should be bis to force minmaxfags to play them because orcs and humans are canonically the most populous race on each factionit's lore friendly
Man alliance have some really fucking good caster options. It feels like anything magic related except shaman would go alliance.
>>585744180Where the fuck are people even getting that it stacks with mount speed? We didn't even have mounts to test with on beta.
>>585744185Lotion up
>>585744245probably desu
>>585744245almost certainly not
>>585744185SEXO
>>585744402It quite literally says it stacks with mount speed in the tooltip bro
>>585737234bis bank alt just got bis'er
>Still cant pick my nameI need a name for a fem human holy priest
>>585744185they are literally still the best DPS race in the game
>gnome rogues still -1 racialbut sure keep talking about orckeks and pet racial
>>585744463Lilith Freyablood
I was going alliance anyway, there is no way I'm fucking going through the pain and suffering that is the horde onyxia quest line when I can complete it in 1 coordinated brd run then 1 ubrs run on alliance.
>>585744463Sophia
Why are they so bad at balancing the racials?
Tauren run over my hut!
kill yourself
>>585744568>5% energy>eureka (reduces energy cost too)>escape artist>engineering failsafewtf are you talking about? all 4 work for rogue. gnome rogue has been one of the most hyped up race class combos since the reveal.
>>585738068>doesn't know about Demonic Brandwhere have you been
>>585744410>>585744435I'm getting mixed messages
>>585739784I already said, keep weapon racialsAllianceDwarves- Guns- One-Handed Maces- Two-Handed MacesHumans- One-Handed Swords- Two-Handed Swords- One-Handed Maces- Two-Handed MacesGnomes- Crossbows- Guns- Daggers- Thrown WeaponsNight Elves- Bows- Staves- PolearmsHigh Order Sky Elves- Wands- Daggers- StavesHordeOrcs- One-Handed Axes- Two-Handed Axes- One-Handed Maces- Two-Handed MacesForsaken- One-Handed Swords- Two-Handed Swords- One-Handed Maces- Two-Handed MacesTauren- Polearms- Two-Handed Axes- Two-Handed Maces- Two-Handed SwordsTrolls- Bows- One-Handed Axes- Thrown WeaponsWindshaper Sky Elves- Fist Weapons- Daggers- StavesRacial Bonus: You learn your racial weapon skill 100% faster its entirely a ribbon feature so its nice for the classes who might make use of it, but casters won't care, and at max level, neither group will care.
>>585744463Luna Macchiato
>orc still the best race for half the classes in the game, especially hunter and lock>meanwhile plebbit, twitter and official forum are on fire like if george floyd died againorcoid playerbase is something else man, if they aren't three times better than everyone else it's heckin' favoritism
>>585744516Sally wouldn't do this
That's it, Gnomes deserve to have their crit CD restored
>>585744617
>>585744683WTF ITS ENERGY NOW TOO? ok I am retarded, black male gnome rogue is back
>>585744750nooo you don't get it bro the sims said they're 2 dps behind night elf I just can't breathe I can't bro
>>585744726Hawks do not count as pets. That is why a lot of bm talents have to specify both pet and hawks.
>>585744516pov you said retail is better than era
>>585744683NTA but yeah gnome is overall bis for rogue pvp. Some tards will go human for perception and stun removal but thats only good vs other rogues and I guess paladins. Nelf can have some fun interactions using smeld as a buffer between getting in combat and dropping combat to restealth too...
>>585744726might as well be just all the weapons you don't have to train when you make a warrior
>>585744245Specific BM talents make a point of saying "hunter pet and hawks," while others don't, so take that knowledge with a grain of salt.
>>585744463Lil Miracle
>>585742660because hes a cowboy
>>585743596uff uff
>>585744707>send your pet in to do le epic damage>gets nuked and cc'd200 iq warlock move
>>585744463Orc Bait
>>585744953ZAMN
Making these bitches look good is not as easy as I thought it would be
>>585744820There is no way eureka doesn’t get nerfed or replaced and then you’re stuck as a gnome
they could literally change the human crit racial to instead be "your character shits in its hand and smears it in his hair" and as long as the stun racial existed they would still be the most played race
>>585744820It's the exact same racial gnomes get on retail 5% more mana/energy/rage/focus/runic
>>585744750they're only better than tauren, who get literally nothing.
>WAAAAH MY RACIAL ISN'T OP ENOUGH>"Say no more crybaby nigger">Everyone else: WHY THE FUCK ARE TAUREN HUNTERS RUNNING CIRCLES AROUND ME AND I CAN'T FUCKING DO ANYTHING AAAAAAAHHHHH
>>585745004their haircolours are fucking atrocious
>orc racials nerfed againyep, prepare for another gigantic wave of cuck and gay porn spam
why are pserver slavs so much better at designing racials than blizzard
>>585745098>mounted combat>plainsrunning doesn't effect mounted speedwdhmbt
I want humans to be the most common race on alliance so my gnome is more unique… and cherished.
>>585745132they actually play their game
>>585745004Just make a normal fantasy elf what the fuck are you doing
>>585745098>dots u
>>585745132Because they don't make all of their decisions off the whims of streamers.
>>585745023Not only is eureka not getting nerfed but it got BUFFED from it's original version that it had at start of beta.
>>585745132because they don't listen to reddit for feedback and just do it on vibes
>>585745156A ranged class that doesn't have to stop moving to shoot you having access to 60% walking speed isn't going to cause any problems, obviously.
Is a single race happy about any of these changes? I guess just dwarf (least played race in the game)? good job blizzard, now everyone is equally PISSED.
>orc lock pvp>gnome rogue rppvpI won
>>585745023it lasts 8 seconds, wtf are they going to nerf
>>585745248Dwarf warriors are happy and thats literally it. Dwarf healers got gaped and raped.
>Humans coasting to success>Dwarves getting big>Night Elves ready to bust>Gnome brains expanding>The skelves on the right side of history are the best magesLooking grim for the Horde.
>>585745183she's from de otha side
>>585745098Tauren hunter with hurricane
Dwarf prot warrior chads, we won
>>585742749you make me laugh so fucking hard bro, i love you. keep posting dailyAlso i love watching these minmax losers screech about 1% dmg changes as if it matters. Imagine having nothing else going on in your life that you waste time raging about something that small. It’s going to change 2 times in the next month anyway. I havent even looked at any of the racial changes because i’m set on troll warrior because i think theyre cool.
>>585745174Even before the racial changes humans were the most popular alliance race on beta by a LOT.
>play dwarf shaman>my 1% hit stops mattering when I hit max level and am forced to healThank you Blizzard
>get off work>no drive to get home quickly >get home>there is no wow forever beta >vege on the couch for 15 minutes>check youtube>PATCH NOTES>COOL>the moment passeswake me when nov 3 comes
>there are shitskins ITT who don't understand the unadulterated Ludokino that is an Orc Warlock
>Male Tauren receive a +2.55 yard hitbox modifier,>Increases the range of your ranged weapons by 6 yards>base hunter range is 35 yards >43.55 yards>60% movement speedYou're not getting in range.
>>585745294>The skelves on the wrong side of history run away at 30% movement speed for 2 seconds. You'll never catch us.
>>585745451
people are more pissed because of how poorly designed and balanced these racials are than they are at because of what the racials are themselves. this forecasts very poor decision making being served to a playerbase that can instantly spot what's wrong with the changes but somehow a dedicated team of people paid to make the product can't figure it out. same exact story as retail. ggs
arent racials literally within like 2% of each other at max level anyway. it's not like there are +23 keys or anything, everything will be clearable
>>585745247It breaks on combat, retard.
>>585745451someone got paid to make this hair
>>585745502just smoke a lot of weed and take a lot of naps
>>585745247you have to stop for .5 secs to do white damage on hunter nowyou could serpent sting/arcane shot someone to death without stopping but it'd take a while, would only work vs a few classes, and you'd probably just end up pulling an npc
>>585745248meh, it's a nerf for many dwarf specs that easily get hit capped anywayhit has a cheap item budget so on specs that need low hit you'll often get overcapped even when you don't actively go for hit
Human>minor nerf>still greatDwarf>huge buff 1% hitTauren>absolutely btfo, completely gutted>no mounted speed>no crit damage bonusOrc>no crit>5% pet damage lolololSkelf>Read Leyline gutted. No reason to get it as a druid now>2% haste>run speed buff is 30% if they charge it at a nodeHow mad are horde players right now? They must be seething on reddit.
How viable is Polymorph healing? Basically you invite your party member to a duel, polymorph them and heal them to full then cancel the duel. Seems broken no?
>>585745248Mine is, but I shant say what it is so people keep overlooking it
>>585745508insane when gul'dan is the most based motherfucker alive so much so that notorious basedchimp Metzen hates him
>>585745562I don't drink or some. my vices are wow forever and food. And since the beta started i've lost 22 lbs.
>>585745428you WILL press earth shock
>>585745520yet the playerbase never learns and continues to cry knowing that nu-blizz will hamfist changes to make everything homogenous and shitty.
How long does it take to stealth after an in combat smeld as a night elf rogue? Is it an actual pvp option? Can you do a hit and run?
>>585745535Where does it say that.>>585745563You can easily just kill people by jump shotting arcane, hawks, serpent etc and stopping for a white hit will only tick down slightly and then with a 3.0 AS bow you'll get back to the next ramp up even if it falls off by 1.
>>585745535It breaks when you get hit. If youre a hunter running at mount speed and shooting from 41+ yards you have no reason to get hit.
>>585745628its like 27% less hot because she is wearing shoulder pads.lets see her tiny slender shoulders
>>585745714Take care of yourself bro
He warned us. I did not believe.. I KNEEL. Keep in mind this is EU time. Now it is 26.10 , 23:34
remember there's a janny here 24/7 letting this blatant avatarfagging and offtopic tranny faggot spam take place and even partaking in itblizzard mass layoffs are coming
I DONT WANT TO GO HUMAN MAGE AGAIN I WANTED TO BE A SEXELF MAGE AAAAAAAAAAAA
>>585745593>huge buffhuge healer nerf >>585745285literally 3 dead racials for healers.
>>585745248When I made a Tauren in the past, it wasn't for minmax reasons, and when I make one now, it'll still not be for minmax reasons. The incremental Feel of going faster than base running speed will be nice, and the handful of times where I'll just get to plainsrun my way across Desolace or something will be pleasant experiences throughout leveling.I also like the core idea of how they adjusted the Skelf racials in relation to the Elemental spots. A persists-through-death modifier buff is a neat bit of tech that they can use for things in the future, so it's nice to see now.Melee Trolls having sick regen is also just a fun concept that I can choose to enhance through gearing / professions, or just have in the background.
>>585745752yeah also can use it when your stealth is on CDbut the best use is to vanish a spell cast at you
>another day of nerfs and buffs>still rolling the same three charactersHUMAN. MALE. PALADIN (ret or prot but prot looks like it will suck)FEMALE. GNOME. WARLOCK (named ohnahole)FEMALE. SKELF. MAGE (some joke about Navi or some shit)i think i'll have fun dare i say.
>>585745752shadowmeld doesn't drop combat in Forever like it does in Retail so you can't do a snarky restealth. You can still dodge spell casts with it though if used in combat because it still untargets.
>undead still have the literal placebo racialoh I am laffin
>>5857457526 seconds of not being attacked or attacking in pvp.
Whoever makes the next thread can you add <FUN HAVERS> discordhttps://discord.gg/TNTkQTpdVD>yfw having fun with fun havers>no rules or cliques just epic fun with new friends
>>585745824KEK WHAT THE FUCK. Imagine if this shitposter just left it at the racials and not the autistic druid changes that will never happen.
>>585739784>just take everything unique and interesting out of the game>boil everything down to a uniform banalitywelcome to retail!
>>585745873do you not do anything but raid? %hit works for earth shock and purge
>>585745873>huge healer nerfWho gives a fuck about healers?
>>585744463Lilith Seraphluna
>>585745605>cheap, retarded, brown behavior this isn’t EQ, just eat some food
>>585745887>want to roll skelf mage>still think old human wizard with gray hair is the coolest possible fantasy character>playing two mages is too autisticAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH
>>585745098The 1 shot windfury drive by vids are going to be crazy
>>585745873No one gives a shit about healer racials lololol
so does the tauren racial clear on combat or what
>>585745698>the one villain in the past 25 years of warcraft that wasn't corrupted by some higher force and was just a dickhead who thought power and destruction was coolgul'dan is basically the lowest bar of what it takes to be a villain and everything else fell below that
>>585743167Both are on the same faction though, alliance
>>585745987>Race that can be Shaman, Priest, or Paladin
>>585745932No more alliance guilds
once again horde has proven to be the biggest queers in gaming. take the L
>>585745932Unfortunately I cannot have fun because the racial changes make me very upset :(
>>585741916Anonyou dont have to play an orc warlock
i need to play right fucking now blizzard i will kill some niggers if not let me in this is your last warning
>>585745987enjoy having 0 shamans on alliance
>>585745248I don't care about racials, I just want to play an orc finally.
WE NEED AN ALLIANCE NA PVP GUILD HELLOOOOOO
>>585746027>old human wizard with gray hairwould be cool if they ever add FUCKING LONG BEARDS
>>585745186do ticks of dots remove stacks? I would think only the application would, and you arent going to be able to reach a tauren hunter who is already cruising with a dot
>>585746120If he wants to parse he does lololol
>>585746076...and?
>alliance racials still super busted>horde racials nerfed in to the ground>alliance players: OMG HORDE PLAYERS WHY ARE YOU MAD YOU BABIES
>>585746080we're already there the retards who post OPs just fucked up the discord link>>585746093just pick dorf and find treasure :)
>>585746081>He has a teamOrc is still better collectively, especially hunters.Tauren buff is retarded.Humans nerfed hard desu, I'm even less likely to make one.
>>585745932dwarf fucking niggers
>nonono YOU DONT GET IT I NEED ALL 4 OF MY RACIALS TO BE USEFUL AT ALL TIMES WHILE LEVELING AND IN PVP AND IN RAID AND WHEN HEALING AND WHEN DPSING AND AND AND
>>585745451Just fuck my shit up, senpai
Can someone please bake?
>>585746202We're going to trim alliance guilds from the op. You only get one spot.
>>585746136My god you guys are little bitches.
>>585746221I talk like this and say this often.
do I?
>>585746206eat shit
Why is it fair that Horde Skelves are the only race in the game with zero useful racials in dungeon or raid content? Meanwhile Alliance Skelves get a free Innervate.
>>585746343Damn why are you eating shit?
you guys care way too much about minor dps differences and parses. get a life and just enjoy the game, your minor parse improvement means nothing. dragons will still be slain no matter what you choose.it's the vanilla way to play for fun, not for meters
>>585746221>p-please care about spirit instead of a net 5% damage to your pet.I want you to think logically about this. Yeah orc just had a crit ripped off, but so did humans. Everyone is collectively weaker and the +2 human crit was hardcarrying them unlike orc.
>>585746027i might coin flip to a skelf druid because druid is broken AND skefs get unique forms like owlbears. but i've never played druid before and they seem too autistic
>>585746221this is true
>>585746364horde skelves are useful stress relief fucksleeves anywhere
>>585745237No it hasn't been buffed, it was a crit buff at first
>>585746364Horde avatar elves get a free travel form speed increase that persists through death and works in raids. Think before you post.
>>585746198Absolute sexo design. I wouldn't be mad if she showed up in Forever.
>>585746338Install the main game first because it shares data with the beta for faster download.
>>585745513>60% movement speed plus 30% pet speed from bestial swiftness Enjoy sending in your cruise missile
>>585746372disingenuous troonpost. people dont give a fuck about the pve racials. people care that alliance has a bunch of active pvp racials while horde gets fuck all. and im a fucking alliance player. it's simply not good for the game.
>>585746585>>585746585>>585746585
>>585746364Comparison is the theft of joy. Just play the game and have fun, and if that's impossible for you due to things like what other people have, gg, better luck in your next life, I guess.
>>585746198Why does that look like a Horde tabard...
>>585746428Druid tanking is the most braindead thing to do in the job.
>>585746624>>585746624>>585746624
Playing a non-Orc Warlock is now a humiliation ritual. Why are the devs vibe-balancing before the game even comes out?
>>585746605because she love horde cocks
>>585745807>Take care of yourself broI have to, otherwise I can't play wow forever, forever. and I need to lose the weight cause i'm a fat ass. not on agrreds level but still
The Tauren racials are legit terrible for everything but botting. >blizzard intentional creates a bot race they are totally going to tackle rmt this time...right?>1% hit was too op for Tauren >Fine for Dwarves >Fear Immunity to op for the Horde>Snare immunity fine for the Alliance. Lmao, why is Aggrend so biased?
>>585746824don't forget duplicating black lotus btw
>>585736456That guy is in this thread, you can count on it
>>585744737at this rate weapon skills will be gone soon :) … again!
arcane mage is fun in sod
>>585745247Wait hunters don't have to stop for autoshot now!??!?!
>>585746609and i wanted to do prot pally too but it seems lacking. retardadin it is maybe
>>585746527the buff that persists is just a buff that makes the 15 second sprint 30% instead of 15%
How are some chuds in 4chin able to come up with better racial ideas than people GETTING PAID to make wow????
>>585744737>learn weapon skill fasterCompletely pointless distinction without a difference. All this does is decrease TTK on 10 mobs immediately after purchasing the weapon skill, what is even the point of coding such a flavorless triviality
