>News, Dev Blogposts & Podcasthttps://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/>Patch Noteshttps://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-october-15/2360696/6>Talent Calculatorhttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app>DatesName reservations on October 27.The journey begins on November 4.Previous >>585746624
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i only watch vtubers on youtubeThe aislop thumbbails don't affect meBut none of the vtubers i watch will play wow
>>585776994wish i could make an ogre warrior since blizz doesn't want me playing orc
>>585776994If they gave ogres instead of skelves forever couldve been good
>>585776994I want ogre shamans...
>think about characters I'd like to play>remember having to actually play the game
>>585776994ogre racial should be that little 2 yard knockup that the brutes do maybe a couple % armor pen to represent their retard strength for the passive
What names you guys going for tomorrow?
Every single decision that's from blizzard and not just the bare minimum for a classic+ is completely backwards and retail-oriented.
don't care about racialswill be playing femhuman warlockeven after the final final balance patch (for real this time) nerfs them into irrelevancy
>>585777026>But none of the vtubers i watch will play wowThe only one I know that will, frequently collabs with a male.
>>585777026same. and for vtubers, I only actually watch 2 of them. The rest I mostly watch clippers or react content.
Was there a /wowg/ ruleset poll to gauge what people were going to play?
>everybody on wowfg reddit discord dooming like crazy>except for gay tauren cowpun dad gamers who are losing their minds because their useless racial got a buffjej
What is and isn't fairgame to be considered a racial?They obviously don't like elemental resistance.Weapon mastery, is a no.Passive crit chance and damage are boring.Is damage to x monster time flavourful enough to even be a thing?Are direct stat boost like The human spirit a good thing?
>>585777309>uselesshorde will be botted to hell
>>585776903>S I X T Y P E R C E N T
>>585777309I might tauren doesn't appeal to anyone else now so of course they'd be happy
Only Alliance players understand this feeling
>>585777227Notfal'ing Forthatre'tard
>>585777309just delete dwarf and tauren. so sick of these gamer dads jfc
/moo
Would you combo herbalism with tauren racial? I dont know how they interact. Does having higher herbalism improve the herbs that spawn.
>>585777360Bots go to the meta faction and that is alliance
>>585776903property of white human men
>>585777245assumi sexo
>>585777360every single lotus spawn location will have a tauren bot that logs in right on spawn timer to pick it, guaranteed
>>585777331>Is damage to x monster time flavourful enough to even be a thing?I don't mind it but I would like to see it affect multiple types to make it feel less useless. E.g. beasts + dragons, or humans + undead, or even 3 types.
>>585777190Wouldn't ogres be a mostly caster race?Warrior, mage, warlock, shamanKinda weird
>>585777160Amen>>585777039For me more than a mage>>585777119Or or actual elves that matter>>585777190Sure, something that makes you get bigger.
I honestly love tauren racials but I cant play as a stupid ass low poly cow
So it's clear the Alliance won in terms of racials. But I wanna know which faction has the best -Best cities?Best quest hubs?Best transport options?Best flight points?Best easy access to dungeons/raids?
Do we know if there's going to be giga queue times? I remember playing when covid happened and having like 8 hour queue
>>585777467it's the biggest game release since pong there will be bots on both factions on every server on every ruleset
>>585777245samesamealso post more Assumi to inflate my peewee
>>585776083KEK yep especially that bald fat fuck who made a big deal out of it and said hes never coming back to wow. he came back to wow
it makes thematic sense for the best warrior race on horde to be elves.
>>585777458You get barely anything from cultivationBtw they are going to revert it to 1 hour cd 1 week after launch because 5 cultivation an hour still going to make silvers
>>585777458They don't interact. Although there is still some synergy since you're running over to the herb anyway.
>>585777583>Best transport options?>Best flight points?is there a list of these for alliance? I've only ever played horde but I'm changing it up so I need to learn the alliance ship routes
>>585777583alliancehordehordehordehorde
>>585777562Ogres that can use magic are either a weird genetic mutation borne from exposure to those crystals in Blade's Edge, or Gul'Dan performing experiments on Ogres. They don't just happen naturally.
>>585777598No thanks to megaservers
>>585777458It's a very appealing to do if you're already setup to like herb. You cast it and it just generates you a new (shitty) instance for yourself so you're going to get less than you would picking up the raw herb but hey free herb. I'd say you're heavily inclined to go herb because otherwise even at 15 minutes it's not really even worth walking to the fucking herb unless it's rare.
Why can't redheads be real?
>>585777720her and a horse
are people seriously paying $30-90 to be able to name their characters 1 week earlier than normies?what names would anyone even FOMO about? like Queen Elizabeth or The Popei dont get it
>>585777458It just makes a copy of whatever you use it on. You dont need herbalism but its probably better because you'll actually be looking for herbs. You're going to miss opportunities to use it if you dont have herb tracking.
>>585777731We're talking about ingame, buddy
>>585777583>Best cities?alliance>Best quest hubs?alliance>Best transport options?horde>Best flight points?horde>Best easy access to dungeons/raids?horde
Who's ready for an Epoch-tier launch next Wednesday?
>>585777841I'm just saying most ogres AREN'T mages, they're a race of primarily just warriors
>>585776994>>585777039>>585777119>>585777160>>585777190>ogres neverbut what about mok'nathal?
>>585777808Bigguy Foryou
>>585777907Aren't they magi? Technically different to a mage.
>>585777701Just google alliance forever ship routes. They added some new ones. They also have the deeprun tram so Stormwind and Ironforge are basically directly connected.
>>585777907That's why I'm saying it's kind of weird if they ever get implemented because 3/4 of their class choices would be casters.
>>585777583Have you seen the riverglades bases? Ally got a massive sprawling fortress while horde got some wooden fences and watchtowers. Not to mention dalaran city.
>>585777562Warrior/HunterShamanMage/Warlock
>>585777936literally just "bigger orcs">>585777954Magi is the plural, they're called that because ogre magi have 2 heads and thus are technically two people sharing a body from the neck down
>>585777781https://files.catbox.moe/2an90x.png>>585777808I'm not telling you cause you'll steal it
>>585777907why are there so many ogre casters throughout wow then? they are everywhere
>>585778051First off, ogres live for centuries if not killed and those guys used to have a magic empire back when they ruled Draenor. Secondly, Gul'Dan used the runestone at I want to say Caer Darrow to just mass-produce them like a factory during the Second War
Princess Theradras owes me sex
>>585777936terrible
>>585778038what model? I haven't done local image gen since 2022 (have a 4090 now tho)
>>585777562Maybe priest and hunter too, but yeah. Most of their options would be cloth.
>>585778167anima
>>585777998Dalaran is kinda pointless even for the Alliance. There isn't even a flight point there.
>>585777808I really don't see the point when we have 2 names now your first name can literally be one that is already taken and nobody will care about your last name. Unless you are trying to get some real life name or anime character name but do you really want to be that retard?
what if they made playable ogres and they were literally just warrior only
>>585777936Not fat enough.
>>585778051In Draenor? They all live close to the crystalsIn Azeroth? Cho'Gall is actively making more of them because he knows Gul'dan's secret formula for doing it
>>585778261would
>>585778261Not ideal but I'd still play the fuck out of one.
>>585778239if you rubbed two brain cells together you'd realize that highly desirable names are now ones that incorporate two words i.e. zug zug, john warcraft etcthoughtlessly adding a token last name like kek or forever is 'fine' but obviously not what people want to snipe
>>585778154>>585778320intredesting thanks
>>585777245Man i wish i wasn't bored of playing female humans, ive wanted to level a warlock on alliance side but ive played 56984 human warlocks in the various classic versions. I wish they gave them to skelves no matter how stupid lore wise that fits.
>>585778154Pretty resourceful guy, that Gul'dan.
>woke up>the 4chan leak on /v/ was right about racials15 donuts per minute bros...
>>585778452Like I said people wont give a shit or even see your last name and they will forever refer to your dumbass as zug or john.
someone make a private server that removes all other races except humans vs orcsand the talent tree can look like path of exile
>>585777583>Best cities?Stormwind and Ironforge are the best, alliance is also getting stormwind.>Best quest hubs?Alliance.>Best transport options?Alliance with the new boats that take them to alliance zones which removed basically all pain points in alliance traveling around. All horde has is the same old zeps they had in vanilla.>Best flight points?Doesn't really matter but I don't see one being better then the other since transport is the main thing to get around.>Best easy access to dungeons/raids?Almost all end game dungeons are on the alliance continent.Alliance is right next to MC and BWL, Horde is next too Onyxia but Onxyia is like Capital > wetlands > boat > you're there.Org would of been closer to Hyjal but now alliance has easy access to darkshore from stormwind so its the same.The new boats also mean alliance will have a way easier time to get to AQ since the boat in the new zone right next to stormwind takes them to gadget which is right next to AQ.ZF SM and Naxx is basically the same for both.Future raids like grim batol is in an alliance zone.
>>585778524If they really remove a bunch of wrath stuff like he said I'm gonna SHIT MY PANTs
>>585778568also add sex
>>585777808>>585778239you have no imagination because you're brown we get it must you repeat this every thread?
>>585778524>>585778590Link?
>>585778479I think night elf warlock should be a thing, but they'd need a separate starting zone outside of the world tree.
>>585778524>>585778590there's also the possibility of the leak being legit but the donuts thing being an embellishment for meme value>if I give real leaks they'll believe any outlandish claims as well nyehe
>>585778589>alliance is also getting stormwind.im gay and retarded, i meant dalaran
>>585778453He's the whole reason WC2 pvp is completely one-side, alliance just have 0 equivalent to Bloodlust, it's THAT overpowered. It's like if Protoss got the beta footage Mothership for SC2
>>585778721That's what I was thinking yeah. Although "removing all the wrath shit" or whatever he said would imply they've cooked up other stuff to replace it with, which I find hard to believe. Or that they're just gonna axe it all, which I also find hard to believe.
>>585778560>even see your last namethey willyou have to manually turn off last names which is demonstrably rare>they will forever refer to your dumbass as zug or johnyeah sure ok but that doesn't change the fact that people will want to reserve the name Chicken Nuggets
>>585777936I fucking hate these allied "half-races" retail has normalized.They are all shit. Just give people iconic, UNIQUE races. No green orcs, or slightly bigger orcs, or fat humans.Give people ogres. Then broken. Then naga. Then satyr, etc. This game's lore is rich with varied races you can integrate into the game. They already fucked up with the big blue faggots. They don't need to continue repeating that mistake.
>Lore shitters fail to mention Medivh was canonically a Warlock not a Mage
>>585778696NE mage should definitely be a thing, i get the lore reasons for their initial booting from the city. But its such a minor thing that adding NE mages back into the fold there's no reason they dont have that class in forever.
Warlock or paladin? I really wanted to like prot on the beta but it still felt half baked and I don't see it being used compared to bear.
>>585778790nigga that makes no sense, pvp is not balanced by lore, it's just game design... they could've easily nerfed bloodlust or given alliance some shit if they knew/cared
>>585778906No I'm saying he's the reason because in-lore he's why horde has ogre magi units
Will the World be the main character in World of Warcraft: Forever?
>>585778984thrall will be
>>585778984Asmongold is the main character
>>585778984You’re a big guy
>>585778831>SatyrWouldn't work because they have hooves. Can't wear boots and would look awkward riding stuff.
>>585778968yes that's fine
>>585779029Forever
>>585779053Don't draenai have hooves?
Best parsing race for spriest? Looks like night elf will be pretty broken with dots critting,
>>585778859He was a mage, then a warlock, then is a mage again post-resurrection. You don't just NOT be a mage and then train one of the greatest mages ever teaching him everything you know. Also>was>past tenseMedivh is canonically alive in WoW, just that no one has seen him since RoC. He's not some ghost or spirit, he got brought back to life after being killed, had Sargeras's spirit ripped out of him, then went into hiding before becoming the Prophet
>>585779053not a real problemjust slap the top part of the boot texture on their ankles
>>585779125What's a draenei?
>>585779164>>585779125No it wouldn't work. How would they jump? The anatomy doesn't work. They can't be playable.>just slap the top part of the boot texture on their anklesIt would look weird, they would never do this.
>>585779127no one will notice, care about or remember your parses
>>585779053>they have hoovesso they are their own mount
>>585778984I wonder what this means for the "story" of forever. Does the world being the main character mean we will focus on the war between each side and their conflicts with different races / groups instead of just focusing on like a handful of characters like thrall and jaina? I don't want each new raid to be the horde and alliance joining together to beat some new big bad while thrall tries to make everyone best friends. Thrall should be replaced by Garrosh and he should be forevers warchief so we always have an excuse for war instead of holding hands and being fucking gay like thralls cuck horde.
>>585779262>guys, you're talking crazy, goats can't jumpThis is you
>>585779149So you're saying hes seen the shadowlands?
>>585778984Yes, my character will be named World Warcraft.
Female satyrs should be sexy futa night elves with hooves who sneak into night elf towns and cum in the moonwells.
>november 3>drumpf loses the midterms so bad his government collapses>roachmoncuck in shambles, literally having a mental breakdown>can't play wow forever anymore because the uncontrollably crying he's going through>wow forever is saved because the roach and his goons aren't playingmasterful move by blizzard, they knew exactly what they were doing with this 4th november release
>>585779312This. Your guild leader will be a warrior, and he will only be looking at warrior parses even though the top one is #8. You're also going to get passed up for gear because he thinks you're weaker than you actually are because he only knows how warrior stat scaling works.
this game will be sooooo fucking ass within a year. this dev team has no idea what they are doing. they are aimless and are headless chickens running around with no vision or direction
>>585779414What's all that cum gonna do other than gum up the filters because it is weak known satyr cum is essentially a stew in terms of viscosity.
>>585779414That's basically canon already.
grey quests should have a 100% droprate
I'm so happy I won't share a realm with politic obsessed mutts.I didn't know how good I had it until the beta.
>>585779507it dissolves into the moon well juice and makes the elves into sluts>>585779510True
how we feeling dorfs?
>>585779371It doesn't matter if goats can jump IRL, it's impossible to animate a hooved race jumping.
>>585779373Probably, but his resurrection was...unconventional. His mom, being one of the most giga-powerful mages ever, brought him back to life with just raw arcane power. Which is not how bringing someone back to life works in warcraft, what she did was less resurrection and more ripping her son's soul out of death's cold hands and then his body just woke back up alive.
>>585779543>it dissolves into the moon well juice and makes the elves into slutsIt doesn't even make more futas? These goats got the low end dark god cum package.
>>585779149His mom being some mage whore does not make him a mage. He died a Warlock. Get over it.
>>585779262>>just slap the top part of the boot texture on their ankles>It would look weird, they would never do this.They already this with taurens and trolls tho
>>585779568
>>585779571>no one has ever in all of animation history managed to animate a horse jumping
>>585779528I agree with this. Forever is saved, theoretically.
>>585779714>>585779671I was hoping people that would piece together that I'm a butthurt nagafag sooner.
>>585779714>Grok is this true?
>>585779658>He died a Warlock.And came back a mage, I don't know how this is so hard for you to follow. Unless we're going by the RPG books in which case he's neither, he's a Sorceror/Necromancer hybrid class
warlocks are gawds
>>585779568>>585779695
>>585779817Warcraft ends with Medivh being banished to the shadow realm and Azeroth is saved. Any lore after this is non canonical.
>>585779149>just that no one has seen him since RoC.He comes back in Legion for a minor role in Kharazhan stuff
>>585779503yea but it'll be KINO for a month
>>585779647I think that requires a special ritual.
>>585779851gods of sitting at the wsg graveyard rebuffing and summoning pets for 30 seconds
>>585780105they can also sit outside instances summoning peopleand they can sit at farm alsoand outside ironforge hoping someone will duel them
warlock is good for summoning actual cloth dps (mage) to the dungeon
I can't preinstall for name reservationit says I need windows 10 but I have windows 10, what do?
>>585780307install gentoo
>>585780307you'll need a genuine version of windows 10, my brown skinned friend.
>>585780258Mage is done for bro. No more AoE farm. Buried Class.
>>585780564u can still aoe farm it's just somewhat less braindead
>>585780307You try again
am I still safe on alliance pvp to not need name reserve? after racial changes im afraid everyone will switch off horde and i wont be able to make an alliance on release
>>585780627so for 99% of mages aoe farming is cooked
I'll be playing Alliance for the first time ever in Forever. I know all the vanilla Horde quests by heart but know little about Alliance. What are some of the most dogshit quests on the Ally side that I should avoid wasting my time on?
>>585780690alliance is full, roll horde
>>585777808_____ twitchtvJust like niggers trying to sell their rap mixtapes.
does anyone know if herb and mining can be tracked at the same time?
>>585780710maybe but anyone who wants to do it can learn, it's not that hardit's completely retarded to say it's dead, you are a larper
>>585780690It was already gonna be majority Alliance on pvp before todays patch notes. But now that they've buttraped Horde a 2nd time I seriously doubt anyone is getting on Alliance pvp if they don't name register.
Do night elves fart?
Anyone else happy that all the third worlders from Turtle are getting priced out of Forever? Now we don't have to deal with as many laggy ESL retards
>>585780690Everyone playing for racials is going alliance now because they ruined horde racials also everyone who wanted to follow streamers is going alliance since they're all going alliance and only went horde to avoid asmongold. We're genuinely going to see alliance dominating the pvp server.
>>585780779all alliance quests are good
>>585781012megaservers are going to fill chats with brazilian babble and clog up my ignore list
>>585781012Pservers have been the holding pin for 3rd world poors since Classic became a thing. Nothing really changes with Forever.
they will change racials weekly, calling it now
>>585780779Don't do any quests involving the red ridge mountains all the quests there are shit and spread way too far apart just go immediately to duskwood
>>585780779westfall has tons of shitty quests. it’s a big serf labor camp. >>585781119tricking you. red ridge is the best early ally zone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct7_Og3ejqkWe got the update!
>>585781012Turtle was nice because basically everyone spoke english, official wow servers are terrible with how many ESLs you run into. Even in the beta I was constantly seeing chinks run around with chink names.
>>585781165Redridge has too many annoying Elite quests and grouping with randoms
*looks right**looks left**shakes head*
>>585781207>Even in the betathe beta was a global server, that's where you'd have seen the most ESLs
>>585780779Honestly Darkshore questing is fucking ass.No wonder people would rather do the 30 minute run to go to Westfall.But the zone is kino and imo worth experiencing at least once especially with the voiceover addon.
>>585781012Wow forever is going to be filled with 70% esl players. You're fooling yourself.
>>585781267you can skip those but they can be fun to group with randos
I found out the hbo max has a channel type thing so I know what I'll be watching on Forever's release.
The only thing I need is the special mountain dews and some finger food
>>585781297Not in forever.I leveled a druid to 30 in forever just buy doing Darkshore, Ashenvale and Stonetalon zones.
>>585781632They added more quests to darkshore?
>>585780376>>585780673I do though
>>585781697also I literally played beta
>>585780779Human zones are overrated gargage besides duskwood, I'd do dwarf/NE starter zones and duskwood/wetlands after 20.
>>585781697open up windows update
>>585777583
grok generate me a levelling path to get out of the undead starter zone as fast as possible while skipping contested quests make no mistakes
>>585777869
>>585781632>buyBrown.
>>585782496nooo... a le brown???
>>585777869It launches at midnight in EU during a work day so I don't expect any ques.
>>585782539comfy gaming early in the next morning
>>585782442>that one random guy who wasn't even part of the dev team making github commits to their server code at 3 in the morning, which didn't end up doing shitEpoch launch was so kino
>racials nerfed>the argument is >As we approach the launch of WoW Forever, we’ve been reflecting on feedback we’ve heard on racial abilities and passive traits: Some players have expressed that some of the new racial traits feel too generic, while others have raised concerns that some are objectively stronger than others.>In taking a final pass on these, we’ve prioritized racial identity, which means that some races will naturally be slightly more effective than others at certain combat roles. In some places where we had replaced role- or class-focused racials with generic ones, we’re rolling those changes back. One exception to this is the weapon specialization racials, like humans’ Sword Specialization or orcs’ Axe Specialization. While those have a strong fantasy component to them, it is not healthy in the long run for future raid and dungeon loot tables to be evaluated through the lens of “required” weapon types.>>>>>>>>>implying anyone cares for what weapon you pick except tryhards>tryhards will be tryhards regardless of your patchesAny chance they will kick out all women and sissies from the game dev and make games by men for men? I'm so sick and tired of this
>>585782686why do you care if only tryhards care about racials?
>>585782442>turtle>epoch>ascensionwhat was the differences?feels like there was so many different classic+ private servers and since these servers go down all the time i never bothered trying any.
>>585782442>Kezanlaughinganimegirl.jog
>>585782749turtle used original vanilla clientepoch and ascension used wotlkepoch was closest to vanillaascension was furthersmany people think turtle got closest to the goal
>>585782843turtle wow sounds so silly though
>>585782571It was home
hello my niggers>took a week off>using rxp>leveling as fast as i can>camping stv when i hit 60 until i pass out
>>585782870yeah it was pretty silly, everyone running around with turtle mounts in low level zoneswasnt a fan of it and didnt play above like lvl14
>>585782749Epoch had banilla soulAscension had nu-soulTurtle was retail
>>585782925everything I learn about turtle just makes it seem like retail but in azeroth and without the furry races
I wish they would have buffed the shatter curse ability more instead of adding command. 5% less magical damage taken is just so dogshit
>>585777869 Nothing can ever recapture the magic(tee hee) that was the Epoch launch.
>>585782749>turtleturtle was around the longest and did the whole classic+ thing first, but the quality of it was pretty bad for the most part except for rare cases like grim forge or whatever that blasted lands dungeon was called. Also the balance was shit. Paladins were broken so everyone played them and they did weird shit like turn sub rogue into a raid support spec instead of a pvp spec.>epochwas classic+ like turtle but its quality was better. it immediately died though when all the devs abandoned ship from getting to much attention at launch then was given to the ascension people. it was originally planned with the goal to have enough players to have two raid teams at max but they got tons of hype right before launch and a knock from blizzard.>ascensionSoD was just blizzards rip off of ascension. If you played SoD you played bootleg ascension.
I didnt know they gave Rogues plate melter poison
>>585782496Sorrry, boughted
>>585783064funservers usually feel like retailI liked epoch, it felt like vanilla but it still had some new stuff, zones, quests and class abilities
I like the new racials. They could use a little more tweaking but they're already pretty cool.
>>585782686>racial identity through racials>randomly buffing and nerfing racials by 0.5% toe length>only taurens get something actually uniquethey lie as they breathe or are they just stupid?
>>585783150fuck off nigger shill, it's literally impossible to have this opinion unless you're a nigger that works for blizzard
reminder the sleeping bag is a time loss
>>585783202Ummm sorry but... I like them!
>>585779414
>>585782735Because they are not bringing anything to the table for EVERYONE, but only something that a specific small group of people doesn't like. This doesn't look like people making a game, playing it and balancing it. More like they throw stuff in, then anxiously retooning everything as whoever screams louder thinks.
>>585783117Does it stack with expose armor?
>>585783353they literally haven't changed a single thing except tiny numbers tweaks (1% crit etc) for the seething parsetroonsand nerfing the undead thing because it was broken
>>585783117sauce
>>585783353what do you mean anything for everyone?not every buff has to be huge, you could say the same about itemization, how every item should have +100 stats so that they felt like something and not just +1 or +2 improvement because "only tryhards" care about miniscule differences
>homogenization of classeswhy are they like this?
>>585783505oh nooo not my raid debuff box ticking
ALEXENSUAL RUNS THIS GAME + THIS GENERAL
>>585783587yeah bro who needs casters? just stack rogues for all utility. good take.
>>585783505>Arcane, Fire, Frost, Nature, and Shadow damageNo Holy damage?
>>585777386Standing in an art museum in Hamburg Germany, the gay trans capital of the world, looking at a painting?
>>585783380I think so>>585783410https://wowforevertalents.com/rogue/?t=d30502010531scroll down to poisons
>>585783505they know no ones bringing a rogue if they don't bring something that buffs other classes
uhm bros what happened to the <Wrench> discord???
>>585783679hehe yeah bro just take all melee im sure that will work rly gud haha nice take dude lol
>>585783752so they're backing down on the 'rogue needs to do the most damage to be useful' meme
I'm working away from my hometown for the next 3 months and cba dragging my desktop around, what kinda laptop specs should I look for on black friday? wish the steam machine was in stock because it would potentially be pretty great as a backup pc
>>585782919based me too
>>585783787even if rogues did do the most damage (they wont) the stigma is so strong that no ones gonna bring more than maybe 1 to soak loot
8 daysbeen playing other vidya as well as checking classic era trade chat
>>585783448Because you will never feel the difference between 1% and 0%. Arguably, you won't feel 1% from 2%, but in a mind of a player, every other proc chance would be like WOW HOLY SHIT 2% LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOO, or something like that. Like they even say it for themselves that, each race has something unique, one stringer than another in something. And then they basically equalizing almost every race bringing them down closer to 0. Alternatively, they could add +1 racial to some races. But again, the inherit problem isn't the amount of % as the fact that the races aren't any different from each other unless you have something really unique, like dwarf, tauren. Giving somewhere bigger numbers than usually could potentially make one race distinct from another, but right now it isn't. It's just 6-7 sample text default resolution reskinned + 2 races(real)
>>585783948well it's way more heckin unique than vanilla, wtf do you want retard? they don't have to make every race into an entire special snowflake classyou sound like a zoomer streamoid tourist, am i correct?it's just a race it doesn't have to be a whole new character
>>585783904other classes can use all of their gear
>>585783747It says right there its from the sod client and not in forever.
>>585783747oh so you're another retard getting memed by sod shit, good job
>>585784027true im assuming there will be mail bis for hunters but realistically you'd rather bring enhance/hunter/feral and give them the leather
>>585783747this feels like the indians falling for the bonuses from professions all over again
>>585779414kys fag
You guys understand that there is gonna be a bunch of weird new gear at 60, and a big fat class patch before release, right?inb4>noooo they datamined everything on the heckin closed betano they didn't shut up NIGGER!!!
Does "Attacks" mean just white damage or also yellow ability damage
>>585784213yeah the launch patch is going to be massive and ruin everyones plans
HD: EnabledYep, it's gamer time
>>585784290sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh
>>585784219definitely works on attack abilities like sinister strikei'm not sure about spells
Still debating whether I want to waste all this time playing WoW again or play through all my single player games I bought
>>585784290Why do I feel like the one on the right wants me to lick his ballsack and cum in his filthy asshole?
>>585784367>buying single player games
You kids are mind broken metal slaves.First of all 99.99% of you will never be in a good guild anyway, one that's pushing for world firsts.Back in the day we had undead warrior main tanks, troll mages, dwarf paladins, gnome warriors, etc. because we weren't meta whores dreaming of being 1000x better than we are and therefore needing to min-max 100%.
>>585783035What does retail mean
>>585779452you need meds
>>585784389because that's exactly what the artist was thinking when he drew that
>>585641094How did he KNOW?
wow bros actually won we won imagine being an mmo developer and people still being this excited for a 20 year old game. How did every other dev fail so hard at making a good mmo?
>>585784367Single player games feel so empty...I'm multi-player now or else
>>585784674can you please stop linking and posting printscreens of your nigger post?
Isn't Twist of Light going to be completely fucking useless? I thought the only reason anyone ever did seal twisting before was because of Seal of Blood allowing you to detonate a nuke with a Seal of Command proc. We're supposed to "twist" with what, Righteousness?
>>585784674>>feral druid berserk talent is gone>>wild growth is gone from resto>>a lot of wrath level talents are getting reworked/removedLet's wait and see, shall we?
blizzard is so retarded, forcing orc players into 2 classes, fuck you niggers, shit company, the racials should have been reverted to the first iteration, and the tauren racials are complete shit still without the fucking 1% hit that the dwarves got for free
Almost week left until the release and I still don't know whether I want to go with pvp or pve
>>585784738Do you have any MP suggestions? Unfortunately I'm an ausfag so most games have bad ping but I'll still take suggestions.
>>585784739Fix the game, fagrend.
>"We don't want people to feel like racials influence their class pick">Orc: 5% increased damage for Warlock and Hunter petsOh...
>>585784712Imagine being a retail working on the next slop, copypasting the previous copypasted fill-a-bar event with its own currency and reputation rewarding some mount which is just a regular beast only with some shader aura on it, and nobody gives a shit about any of it anymore.
they also buffed the fucking blue elves once more because they really want the $30, holy shit this company is so jewish it disgusts me, at least I know this game will be dead by the end of december already so I don't care
>>585784823imo pvp is just better if you're gonna play a lot, it encourages you to use all your abilities, seek out weird items, and become betterif you really just wanna parse, or if you're new/casual/dadgamer, then pve by all means
>>585784821racials are just flavor and not meant to be taken seriouslyyou aren't "forced" to do shit retard
>>585784770it's a pretty big dps increase compared to nothing
>>585777386untrue, since playing alliance has no feeling of adventure. they only level in safe zones while horde gets right into the adventuring.
>>585784935>5% free damage for X class>just flavorfuck off MORON
>>585784919This is a nerf for alliance and a buff for horde skelfs because previously it was completely useless.
>>585784896Where did they say that?
Why not just give everyone their weapon specs back but make them 1% hit?
>>5857849865% pet damage is not 5% free damage, NIGGER
>>585785039because not every class can equip those weapons and people hate being forced to use specific weapons
>>585784935explain to me how 10% spirit is "just flavor" ?that shit is a straight up 5 talent point racial lmao
>>585784990both are still overtuned and far too strong because they want to sell the $30 race
>>585784858Unironically I play a lot of VRchatThere's a lot of game worlds in it and multi-player wise it feels like endgame MMORPGCommunity events are fun as well
>>585785162because spirit is gay and uselesshope this helps
>>585784389Her*
>>585784986you don't even have a third grade reading level
I was going to play troll warlock but shitzzard literally FORCED me to make an orc instead now
>>585785248pets will die to raid boss aoe
>>585784213The big fat class patch is still made by the big fat retards responsible for the current iteration.
makes me happy to see the horde racials raped over and over
>>585784958The alternative is grabbing Divine Favor and Holy Shock tho
>>585785248>id rather my pet do very very slightly more damage then having 20% more hp regen in combat and the racial that gives you channeled heal for the class that uses its hp as a resource that does almost all of its damage from dots and shadowboltYeah man, go ahead.
if dots doesn't snapshot does that mean i should pop bloodfury so doom procs during it?
>>585785438yeah
>>585785318Just like your clown faction will get raped in world pvp over and over :^)
>>585785201t. shitter
>going in blind with my buddy>neither have played since wrath>rolling a dwarf warrior and dwarf shaman on pveyep...its wowing time..
>>585785453warlock needs recklessness
for my evil forsaken bitch is it more fun to run Spriest or Afflock
>>585785195VRchat is the online game that comes close to WoW's depth. I would've probably loved it if playing VR for more than an hour didn't give me a vertigo.
>>585785472based blast haver
>>585785595every priest has to heal sometimes so go with warlock
>>585785425In no situation will the troll regen be useful. A warlock will always be self-healing, being healed by the group healer, or at the very least have a HoT on them.
I'm playing random vibeslop demos on steam. It's bad
>>585784290
>>585785634>if playing VR for more than an hour didn't give me a vertigo.That feeling goes awayThe better the headset the less you feel that tooThe important part is to set movement to snap turning and use holoport movement until you feel your VR legs growing.And always, ALWAYS stop playing once you feel sick. Set the Headset down, recover and play again once you don't feel sick.Your brain will think the VR headset is poison if you push through the feeling of vertigo/sickness.Mine went away in 1 week
So I'm thinking priest human is actually great now with the human spirit giving 10% spirit?
>>585785767Yep
>>585785767Correct for PVE
>>585784290It's so FWUFFY AND CYUTE!
>>585785767Has human priest ever been bad? I guess Nelf is just that much better.
>>585785748I think its different for everybody. I also tend to sweat pig after 20 minutes and my entire face becomes completely soaked after an hour. I'm using Quest 3 which is the first headset I got, but it also makes me uncomfortable, its too heavy on my face. I guess I'll just make it until they make a one weighting 100g like glasses.For me, the discomfort/fun ratio isn't worth it lmao. I'll stick to WoW.
>>585784929New and casual. I tried to go for pvp, battle grounds etc during tbc but it felt too overwhelming to keep up with everything
>>585785767Nelf priest racials are much better if you even slightly care about PVP.
>>585785878Well in classic it was trash because it didn't have fear ward.
>>585785920I don't care about PvP and I'm also already planning to make a warrior Nelf. Human idk id make a paladin maybe at some point.It was either human or gnome priest for me but on human you can see sexo outfits better
>>585785913Well I kind of misspoke, pvp is still worth considering for anyone, but it's also extra work. I'd say the effect is very different to TBC though.
>>585785997>warrior NelfAre you me I hope warrior nelf is good...
>>585785891Fair. When you want to try it again, there are comfort strap upgrades.I'm here cause I'm so hyped for WoW Forever. I have a bunch of VRchat friends who would be playing with me as well lol
>guy had chatgpt in his 4chan url linkepig!
>>585777309>lol who cares about 60% speed across two fucking minutes>if you'll do the math it makes your leveling at least couple of days fasterWtf did Blizzard think?
>>585786082YOu know what. If Blizzard actually uses AI to search for "community feedback"You know what that means boys?Our opinion is valid now too. Not just redditards
>>585783064it wasn't like retail
a guy whispered me to tell me he took a screenshot of my character for a meme
>>585783110>it was pretty bad for the most part except for rare cases like grim forge or whatever that blasted lands dungeon was called. Also the balance was shit. Paladins were broken so everyone played them and they did weird shit like turn sub rogue into a raid support spec instead of a pvp spec.When was that? beta? None of this is what I experienced while raidlogging on turtle. Everything was high quality and balanced and the added content was seamless. Their Gilneas will undoubtably be better than the one in Forever.
>>585786061Apparently it's really good and they didn't nerf it, so we can assume it stays that way. What I got is 3-minute cooldown ability that gives you 10% more crit rate for 15 seconds, +2% movement speed, +1% dodge and there are abilities on prot at least I think that synergize with dodging. Then also that ability that apparently lets you go into stealth? Seems useful during leveling if it breaks combat but not sure if it does
>>585786264Shenna please...
>>585784451he's talking shit, there was nothing retail about turtle, 99% of the posts about turtle ITT are people who never or barely touched it
>>585786292in pve shadowmeld works like priest Fade, drops your threat a bit for a moment
>>585786234was your character a cute slut or a goofy looking dude or do you have an interesting name or what's going on big guy?
>>585779452>drumpf loses midterms>no one cares because all branches no longer have power to strongman MAGA>asmong continues farming noobs with his 1000 chads followers in Orgrimmar
>>585786391just a generic character, i feel like i'm going to end up on reddit
I can't decide between night elf and sky elf for my moonkinhelp me bros...
>top post on the classicwow reddit is just a reminder that plainsrunning takes 2.5 minutes to reach full stacks because so many utter retards keep posting about how taurens run at mount speed 24/7
are wc1 and wc2 campaigns good?
>>585784352some paladin spells are attacksI was told judgement is for some reason
>>585786389Ah so during solo questing it won't do much? I thought you could for example do a pull with three guys, kill one and then do shadowmeld to drop the others. So you could handle situations where you can't face them all together but I guess not
>>585786082Does AI really scour through 4chan to information?
>>585779452Blow your brains out you obsessed freak
>>585786326I played for 6 months last year raidlogging with a top guild and there was no paladin spam and no weird support rogue, wondering if that guy just made it up or is confusing turtle with something else
>>585786451nelf druid
>>585784770Who knows? What's important about twist of light is that it's not fun. Twistlovers won't like it because there is no timing involved and non-twisters will hate it because it's seal busywork.I wish they just added two capstone talents, one that gave us divine storm to play Wrath-like ret, and another that gave you seal of blood and enabled the original seal twisting with the 0.4 seconds (and you couldn't pick both of course).Also, I wish they made exo hit everything, that holy shield wasn't the capstone and didn't suck, that we had a normal taunt and that we had something like SoR or HoR as the prot capstone so we could press some buttons. And that Holy was more of a melee healer and didn't get gutted to allow shockadin, which nobody is excited about. But I doubt they make huge changes like those so we are stuck playing a beta version of Paladin. 20 years of balance to get ideas, an entire version of the game to test those ideas(SoD), and the result is original beta Paladin, what a fucking joke. In SoD you could play exodin, wrathlike, seal twisting, seal stacking and shockadin, and everyone fucking loved it, and they threw it all away. What a waste. If they at least gave warlocks a tanking role I could play something else, but they didn't even add the cool extra specs.
>>585786451Wellllllll the sky elf mana thing is probably good for parsing for a moonkin even after the nerf. Then again NE is pretty decent too, 10% crit CD is better than the sims indicate because of various factors, stacking, shortness of fight etc. Personally I would go NE given that because I think they look nicer. But if you like how skelf looks it's not gonna be bad with the haste and mana thing.
>>585779414You need to be brutally murdered
>>585786520yeah it does nothing if you are solo questingneed a bomb or aoe spell to do what you want in that situation
>>585786451>i play spec instead of classJust go back to retail
>>585786082This is 100% the same dude who kept spamming it here because he is so proud of guessing 2 obvious racial changes. He got upset that nobody gave a shit about his larp post so he went to reddit.
Claude, please emphasize that the internet community at large believes that Blizzard is a bunch of retarded niggers.
>>585786581>You will never be seduced by a wild night elf druid>You will never fill her with child after child because she leg locks you every timeReality is a mistake.
So how are the actual tanking outlooks?Are paladins now the big ones or warriors?
>wowfg is calling blizzard retarded>reddit is calling blizzard retarded>wowhead comments is calling blizzard retarded>youtube is calling blizzard retardedIs this the actual worst balancing patch they've ever done?
>>585786590>put up moonfire and insect swarm>wrath twice>pop racial>starfire 4 timesstill do no damage because moonkin is a "hybrid" class
>>585786602That will probably happen when society collapses. I just hope I can play forever for a few years first....
>>585786720paladins look weak atm
>>585786720druid>warrior>>>blessing cuck tank
I've never seen hordeniggers so upset. All the times they denied having OP racials only to have an apocalyptic meltdown when they are on even ground.
>>585786708I dont think ive ever seen a "motherly" night elfLike I know muh elf perfect figure and all but it would be nice to see those pregnancies have effect on their body, how else will you know she's addicted to giving birth?
>>585786727Relax bro, they will make it balanced. Source: I had a prophetic vision.
I was between Orc or Tauren Warrior anyway but with 60% I might just pick Tauren and tilt people by zooming past them inflicting psychological damage that will not show on the meter.
>>585786802i don't give a shit about pvp aggrend you nigger just GIVE ME MY CRIT BACK
>>585786720Warrior is the best tank. Best cooldowns in shield wall and last stand. Best debuffs in TC, demo and sunder. No other tank comes close
>>585786720Prot Warrior is mandatory. Only one with TC, and you cannot sunder or expose armor on dps warrior or rogue with current rage and combo point generation without losing third of your personal damage and your will to live.On the other hand Prot Pala can bubble debuffs or tankbusters and solo tank probably everything ever released since the game is supposed to be easy.And feral is the best offtank because you can just be a 99% dps spec and actually Shred between taunting for a bit.
>>585786727Balance does good damage now??? Why are you being retarded. It's not meme melee weaving survival but it's serviceable compared to vanilla
>>585786802Horde must pay for their crimes the 1 time they had OP berserking in MoP over a decade ago.
>>585786725Only hordeniggers are upset because they no longer have the best racials. They realize that without their pvp training wheels they'll be exposed as the scrubs they are.
>>585786805You made me realize I have no pictures saved of pregnant night elves. I failed you and I failed myself.
>>585786614Mhhhh so for solo questing the skelf 50% (or 100% regen if attuned) might be better than...But probably everything else is better on Nelf. It's really hard
>>585786264I forget when I stopped playing but I was raid logging kara and off tanking it.I do know gilneas was in the game and it was absolute shit. It felt like something I or anyone could make in the level editor which was the problem with most new turtle content. I remember there was tons of geometry and pathing problems at launch or how people were camping that recipe seller in the gy for weeks with bots. The dungeon was a little better then the actual zone but it also just felt like just lazily reusing assets while also being super cramped.Gilneas is in forever and its just cata gilneas which is one of the best zones they ever designed, it will be good in forever.
>>585786865TC?I havent played warrior in a hot minute
>>585786725It's pretty insane. Why the fuck would they give blue elves 30% movespeed and tauren 60% plainsrunning???? It's just bizarre and I can only assume the person behind racials is some retail tranny dev who can't handle online pressure
>>585786082kek
>>585786720Numbers wise Paladin is fucked in regards to stat budget and might not be able to hit uncrushable but who knows how things will be at level 60. Fun wise Paladin sucks, you press 2 buttons every 10 seconds. They removed the AoE tank identity and gave nothing in return, while making the others better AoE tanks.
>>585786943Thunder clap. It reduces attack speed by 20% now up from 10%, no other class has a similar ability
>>585786720ferals probably going to end up being the best. warriors good and paladin is looking pretty bad right now.
>>585786886Its okay anon, I actually have only like 2 preg belly images saved period despite being the biggest pregfag on the planet
>>585786898healing with bandage or food is pretty fast so I dont see much use for the regen for warriors and roguesI would personally go nelf for a warrior no questions
>>585786489I laughed at the comments that said tauren druid flag carriera will be op or that tauren hunters will be the best kiters in dungeons/raids thanks to it.
You retards keep saying Horde has had OP racials throughout WoWs history when that was only true during MoP with trolls or Legion with blood elf. The only reason Horde took over retails population was they had fucking blood elves which is the most popular race by miles. They've shat the bed on pvp racials for a decade only getting top arena results solely from Orc hardiness.
>>585786943Weird, I don't have to play druid to know what FF is. You'll do just fine playing anything considering your level of aspirations based on your game knowledge.
>>585786874>warlock>10% spell damage buff>worse/better version of bres>extra healing potion >not a hybrid>moonkin>3% crit chance buff>bres>innervate maybe>hybrid>does 2/3rds of the damage of warlock
>>585786085>if you'll do the math it makes your leveling at least couple of days faster
>>585786725It's the rule of silent majority.Most people don't post on forums or make youtube videos/posts comments there.The changes are good.
>>585786973blue elf speed is a shitty sprint with a cast time, not bad but not insane, it's gonna be hard to use in pvp (but could be cool) and almost useless in raids, ok not bad not that insane imoplainsrunning is overrated, again it's cool but the ramp time is long and it's situational, still somewhat useful for hunters in pvp but it's not gonna break the gamedesu I think both are cool and more impactful than anything they'd put in retail
>>585786708Only males can be druids.
>>585787001not a tank ability and doubt anyone would use it in single target fight
>>585787001I realized as I posted it, yeah its effectively a 20% mit to DPS specifically isnt it, pretty huge>>585787060Its because thunder clap was so doodoo that it didnt even register as a button for me before forever, didnt play the beta
>>585787105>The changes are good.maybe they're good if you're a fucking retarded faggot
>>585786507Sure but warcraft 3 retcons most of it. Specifically everything about the orcs.
I will range autoshotting every single Tauren just to remove their planes running.
>>585787123>doesn't barkskin hurricane as a tanklower your voice when talking to me
>>585787198That's another reason it's a good racial. It's hilarious. I think tauren should get 1% hit though to appease parseoids.
>>585787182Hordenigger spotted. Just roll on pve if you don't want to get exposed as a shitter.
>>585787179>pretty huge>so doodoo
>>585787258right it's not like they assfucked horde pve racials too
>>5857872492% crit damage was already the worst racial I don't know why they had to remove it
>>585786902>it felt like something I or anyone could make in the level editor which was the problem with most new turtle content>also just felt like just lazily reusing assets while also being super crampedYou're making shit up just to talk shit or maybe are blind iRL or were scammed into playing some bootleg version of turtle by a nigerian prince. no point engaging with you. >with botscasing point, no bots in turtle when i played
>>585787260it got its effect doubled, that can change a lotWith rage economy being what it was, it was simply not worth pressing until now, surely thats not that hard to figure out?
did they remove the extra swing animation from windfury?
>>585787331Not really. If 10% attack slow is dogshit, 20% is not gonna be amazing. It was always good.
>>585787338Yeah
So how are they going to make people roll horde with worse racials in both pvp and pve and less content?
>>585787284Only retards care about racials for pve. You're not gonna play like the fucking simulations you stupid nigger.
>>585787457Yes.
>>585787457Imagine being such a NPC you roll faction based on racials
>>585787475pve racials just feel good to have, blizzard nerfing them is telling everyone who plays horde to go fuck themselves or play alliance
>>585787457oh nooo i dont get a copypasted wotlk slop city to run around for no reason?
>>585786516That's weird. I didn't know this.But you're probably right. I just checked wowsims and they at least have that the judgements crit chance is increased by agi and not intelligence.Honestly very weird because damage wise they scale just like spells.
>>585787457Horde is the cooler looking faction so the coolness factor will be enough.
Can I reserve character names now?
This racial nerf is a psyop so ppl play alliance on PVP ruleset
>devs somehow still doing the stupidest things to racialsHow are they this stupid
>>585786902Turtle had some shit area but also some amazing zones/dungeons. It really depends on who actually made them. There were different people working on it.Gilneas might've been mid at best but stuff like Northwind and Windhorn Canyon are actually miles ahead of a lot of the vanilla stuff. I haven't played any of the fogever dungeons yet but from what I've seen of excavation site at least it's not looking as nearly as good either.
I am so glad they fucking with racials so soon to the release whilst people will be making character reservations.
>>585787434ok im not playing this shit game
>dwarf racials buffedI guess there's no escaping it, dwarf shamans are here to stay and there will never be another shaman race for alliance.
Every time I read a post here I have to remind myself that it's coming from a RP server playing greyparsing dadgamer.
>>585787645Hordenigger lost his training wheels. Proceeds to cry like a faggot.
>>585787730same, it really shows how well thought out this whole thing is. been in development for 3 years btw and we're still getting last second massive overhaul changes to racials and classes.
>>585787889funnily whenever I read a retarded message here I think to myself "I will never have to read dogshit like this on a RP server"
I'm an "aesthetics > racials" kinda guy but what the fuck man
>40-year-old minmaxers crashing out over a 1% stat change because they have to redo their spreadsheetskek
>>585777936What did they do to my boy Rexar...He looks like a half wit...
>>585776903>mischevious intentions-increases movement speed of all players within 30 yards of rogue by 6%rogues need at least something to bring to the table..
Plainsrunning and war stomp is easily the most fun combination of racials in the game that will impact your gameplay from level 1 Who the fuck cares about blood fury that will make you hit for 2 more damage or stun reduction thats almost completely unnoticeable
>>585787948Most people never see or interact with RP server weirdos so reading your opinions is always wild.
>>585787457Forced faction lock on character creation.There will be no new alliance characters until horde reaches 50%, which is already a thing on every pvp server of their past releases.
>>585788068Don't be fooled. It's hordeniggers pissing and shitting themselves over not having superior pvp racials. Now it can be seen as an even playing field and hordeniggers hate that.
I told you the beta was too short and too close to the launch with weekly fucking patches for fixing and balancing the game. But you wanted to cope and claimed I was just a doomkek.
So, what kind of names are you guys planning on reserving?I don't think anyone will pick the fantasy name I'm choosing, so I'm considering picking some meme shit, either so I wont have to see someone else use it, or to maybe use it myself in the future.
>>585787121Yeah yeah and males can't be priests, go to bed grandpa.
>>585788217my irl name ofc
>>585788162And PVP on every region will still be locked for horde because no matter how hard asmongold trannies try to reverse history, horde is the more popular faction
>>585787887Sucks that femdorfs actually look better in HD, but then you have to look at humans or elfs in HD which is vomit inducing
>>585788217Chuck Norris XD
>>585787981I don't care enough about the racials to keep me from playing horde, but I do wish they'd stop doing whatever the fuck it is they think they're doing. Racials are more of a mental trick than they are actual performance issues(like anyone that cares enough not to play a specific race over that 1.5% different between mages last couple of threads is a brainlet) but just that perceived bonus of having a minor % boost on your offenses somewhere can do a lot with the identity of the race vs another.The bigger issue though is I can't help but feel the way they've treated racials since the announcement to now might just be indicative of other systems going forward, like classes.
Who cares about racialsJust use whatever has the cooler animations
Give me wow forever class census, I need to decide my class bases on what IS least played.Is it going to be like private servers where everyone rolls melee DPS?
>>585788178>Now it can be seen as an even playing field and hordeniggers hate that.I'm going ally and it's really not even, ally just has better racials.
>well I play Alliance therefore the racial patch was good!Okay have fun when BG queues are 40min long because nobody wants to roll Horde.
Instead of doing 5 iterations of meaningless 1% racial differences they could have used that time to unfuck talents and preferably reverted the idiotic spell coefficient/base damage changes back to classic values.
>>585788406Probably priest or shaman
>>585788217I wonder how many Assumis are going to be running around, since she doesn't have a last name.
>>5857795681% better
>>585788406>where everyone rolls melee DPS?Everyone rolled Warrior because it was unquestionably the best class at 2 different roles.
>>585788423Nobody cares about racials and nobody but casual RP trannies want to roll alliance.
Why did they nerf alliance racials again? Omfg...
>>585788406Warlock is always at the bottom but a warlock won the PvP tournament so it will probably affect the numbers on the PvP realm.
>>585788418Tell that to alliance priests and warlocks
>>585788406The least played class on both sides will 100% be warlock.If you're wanting to go alliance shaman will be right next to it.
>play horde pvp to fight/gank streamers and their orbiters >or go alliance and get to join more community events and tourneys and have op racialshmmmmmmm
Hush, Tyrande.
>>585788542Horde is the faggot pride faction. Sorry you can't accept that.
It is not going to dawn on the devs just how horrendous the last 2 racial patches have been until name reservation opens up. I'm 100% calling it right now, they WILL do an emergency Horde racial buff when the devs see just how many people are reserving Alliance characters.
>>5857795681% hit is better in every way than 2% crit damage. Still pretty boring but whatever. I'm probably going to be the only dwarf in my friend group so I at least get to open every chest and pretend like that helps.
>>585788217no one is stealing my irl name so Im just going to save some time making my characters
This whole racial discussion looks like psychosis to me. You retards know that it is what it is, right? And you're still gonna play. So what is there to discuss?
>>585788542>Nobody cares about racialsIs that why every single discussion about Forever right now on all corners of the internet is about racials?
>>585788645I can tell you are trying so hard to convince everyone of that but we all know how it really goes
>>585787113tauren now don't need the level 40 mount. I'm fine adding 2.5 minutes of ramped up speed to my journey if it saves me mount cost
A lot of gray parsers shitting themselves over 0.1% changes.
>>585788406warlock and priest on hordewarlock and shaman on alliance
>>585788542>RP trannies want to roll alliance.The only wow tranny with any following is going horde and the horde was filled with tranny streamers in the beta since asmon was on alliance and he still will be.
>>585788787Do you really think that or are you trolling me? Please don't lie, I'm autistic so you would be abusing an autistic frogposter.
>>585788741Because for the first time in history, Alliance has 0.2% better racials.
>>585787541It makes zero difference. You'll still be able to clear the content in exactly the same time as anyone else.
>>585788728Tell someone out of the game that all these people are screeching because they will have 15% crit chance instead of 16% crit chance after the change and see their reaction.
>>585788787the fuck else are you gonna spend gold on?
What three race/class combos are you making today? I think I'm doing dwarf shaman, gnome warlock, and nelf hunter.
>>585787072druid can shift, heal and be mobile. Do you want all classes homogenised like a retail player???? I'm being serious btw.
>>585788787It's certainly nice that you don't have to get it at 40 but by 44 you'll have 200g (normally just 100g).
>>585788423>Okay have fun when BG queues are 40min long because nobody wants to roll Horde.Most people roll Horde you fucking retard. Even globally, not only the US, that goes for PvE and PvP. The good thing? You will search 2sec as Alliance faggot and 20min as Horde faggot.PvE, PvP and RP will all play in BGs together, don't forget that.
>>585788787>join BG>don't worry team, I'll get there to help as soon as my plainsrunning stacks to full>die>run in circles for 3 minutes to stack it again
>>585788882buy gear from ah that you replace in 2 hours
>>585788741>Is that why every single discussion about Forever right now on all corners of the internet is about racials?Because we havent had any news about the game for 2 weeks other than racial changes
>>585787887>>585788303I love how Femdorfs look in HD and really want to play a Shaman, but fuck man their vanilla animations look garbage compared to the updated HD animations. I hope they add a toggle to let us just use the modern animation set later.All this "We made it just like classic guys!" pandering was so fucking retarded. They picked up so much shit that wasn't particularly good just to please the classic andies that dont actually play the game and just want to watch a 5 minute youtube video and say "ah yes, this looks like a game I didnt play 20 years ago because I'm 24 years old"
>>585788813wat about the 100 parsers here
>>585788843>for the first time in historyLMAO HAHAHAHAHAHD DO YOU EVEN PLAY THE FUCKING GAME??? HAVE YOU SERIOUSLY EVER EVEN TOUCHED WOW BEFORE IN YOUR LIFE??????? THEY HAVE BEEN SPOONFEEDING ALLIANCE OVERPOWERED RACIALS FOR 2 FUCKING DECADES! GO LOOK AT THE FUCKING ARENA LADDER ON RETAIL RIGHT NOW IT IS SERIOUSLY NOTHING BUT NIGHT ELF AND HUMAN
>>585788882gear, professions, consumables and all my abilities? If you're a speedrunning freak don't reply to me because you don't even like classic
>>585788950It doesn't work in BGs
>>585788904skyborne mage (male/arcane)night elf druid (female/balance)human rogue (female/combat)
>>585788843>Because for the first time in history, Alliance has 0.2% better racials.Wrong, retail players went alliance for PvP, because of Nelf and Alliance Belf.
>>585788741Probably also because there is nothing else to talk about for the next week as we wait for launch and that is the latest breadcrumb of news
>>585788843>retard didn't live through the double dps trinket every man for himself time frame Opinion discarded.
>>585789025then that's even more reason why he needs a mount
>>585789059Ah the good old days of every expansion since Wotlk...
>>585788976
>>585788974I watched a "top parser" guild wipe on loot reaver 20+ times on purpose because the pull wasnt optimal, there is 0 chance yall niggas arent all trans and autistic
What even are the mechanics behind plainsrunning. Does it just immediately drop to 0 in combat? Does it stack with any other movement bonuses? Movement speed has always been good for uptime on a target, and as a result DPS, even if it's not as impressive sounding as any normal offensive stat bonus. Unless it's functionally useless in combat.
There should be a class that heals when taking damage
>>585789137Effectively, as long as you don't take damage, you move faster.
>>585789009only speedrunning freaks go tauren, real enjoyers like me play a real race with no mount
>>585789137it takes 2.5 minutes to ramp up to full. if you hold still you rapidly start losing stacks. you lose like 15 stacks per each time you get hit by anything. basically if you are doing anything other than running from point A to point B you are gonna lose your stacks.
>>585786943>>585787179>>585787331I am incredibly suspicious of this one poster that claims to have "forgotten" about Thunder Clap. Its one of the most iconic og warrior abilities, one you get relatively early on, and its like the only thing Warriors do that is noticeable in combat animation/gfx wise even if you dont play them.I think this may be a larper
>>585789178Wasn't that Brewmaster kind of? I never played them but they had their drunken stagger mechanic thing didnt they?
>>585789137You lose half your stacks if you take damage in combat and you lose stacks if you stay still or not move far enough. In the beta you could jump in place or wiggle to maintain your stacks while you did quest turn ins or stuff like that but they removed it.It doesn't stack with stuff like ghost wolf, cheetah or druid form, your plains running has to have enough stacks so it gives more movement speed then that form before you see any movement speed increase. So since travel form is 40% speed you need to get 21 stacks of plains running before you start moving faster and you gain a stack every 5 seconds of non stop moving.
>>585789237During 1 to 60 in HC, there was times when I used Thunder clap. The ability was waste of rage outside raids.If the boss didn't hit exceptionally hard, you didn't press it unless ragecapped.
>>585789290Stagger mechanic makes you take damage slowly. Like if you got hit for 100 damage you'd instead take like 20 dmg and the rest of the 80 dmg would happen slowly over the next few seconds. But they have drinks they constantly chug that clears their stagger damage.
>>585789135ok my guild doesnt wipe on purpose just good at game and clear raid fast
>>585789137Keep running, you run fasterStop running or take damage, effect rapidly disappears.
8 more hours bros. Feels good to be eurochad, for once we have the advantage with release times!
>>585789380But then you might get suboptimal 95 parses, a permanent blemishes to your record.
>>585789380esl
>>585789357yes well nobody is usually talking about 1-60 my friendthe default topic is lvl 60 contentif this was not clear to you, well now you knowif you mention your opinions on wow and dont say>BY THE WAY I ONLY PLAYED 1-60 HCthen people will 100% misunderstand you
>>585789195>>585789219>>585789347I see, thanks. Sounds decent in the open world moving between hubs pre-mount and pre cheeta/travel/wolf, but I suppose mixed results when actually moving between quest objectives if they're near each other close.
A cool racial would be that during combat you accumulate haste. The more you fight the faster you get. If you don't fight for some time stacks drop.
>>585788845just balance them you dumb fucks, it's not that hard
Tauren genuinely seem like the perfect bot race with free movement speed and duplicate herb gathering.
>>585789380>jeet lying about his parses for izzatCan't make this shit up.
>>585789504sounds ok but what if you did more damage the more gold you had?
>>585789543Tauren are another reason I'm dropping horde. Tauren look like they were tailor made for botting and all the chinks in the beta were playing tauren hunters.
>>585789504That is pretty much the dps racial diaper gnomes have in retail
>>585789560Also cool but I think this could be for a new class. Alliance gets rat people and Horde gets goblins with that class.You get more gold than others but your abilities also use gold. The more gold you have the more damage you do but also the faster you lose gold.
>>585789637Interesting. Since I didn't know that you know I'm a real one!
>>585788217Ianon namestealer
>>585789627Tauren Druid has been THE bot class in basically every version of WoW. With cultivate and plainsrunning they are just creating even stronger bots for the chinks to spam.
>>585788217I'm reserver memeshit first. No need to reserve rp names because of infinite combinations of first and last name
Is the auction house region wide and crossfaction?
>>585789871yes and no
>>585788493I wanted to make a gnome warlock but man, an assumi alt would be kino
>>585789871It's not cross faction and it won't be regionwide.
>>585788821>Bros are playing priests and shaman as their mainsFuck
>>585788696Based IRL name user. I will have an alt with my name as well
RP bros tell me about your characters traits
Did Dwarf Shamans get anything cool like how Undead Paladins got new area and quest lines?I'm really trying hype myself up for them.
>>585789989there's totem quests
>>585789989They have entirely new totem quests in custom areas around the world
>>585788656the vast majority of players do not care or even know. they will just make characters based on their preference. play a couple days. get bored of the lack of new content and quit.
>>585789989this is true but it's kinda dogshit and also long
can't wait to play my guhnome briest
>>585788217I'll do a funny meme name that I'm gonna use but you'd only get it if you know regional dialect.Then for the other two I'm not sure yet which ones to reserve, I have made a list of possible things
>>585789959tall and muscularirresistably gorgeoushuge girl dickgiant balls full of fertile semen
>>585788976>arena>wow classic you are stupid and a faggot
>>585787556It is mudhut faction. If you like it you are spiritually black.
>>585789484This wasnt me >>585789357But what I meant was that TC is rarely worth pressing when you arent tanking as other abilities do more damage, and if you are tanking, that rage is better spent on sundersI never raided, not in classic anywayAlso>suspiciousCome on now, you think this is some kind of cool kid secret club?
Man I wish you could add "of" in between the names. e.g. Geralt of Rivia
>>585790174t. favela monkey who thinks he's european because he plays human paladin
so alliance get Dalaran and horde get some new mudhuts in Kargathdamn lol
it's always funny to see hordecucks cry about emfh when every one of their races except troll have had broken pvp racialsorc stun resistwotf aoe stunaoe silence
>>585788929let me check my last BT raid>healthstones healed for 258k>our moonkin healed for 16kyeah huge impact from the guy with healing spells surely they need to be one of the worst damage classes for that
>>585790243pretend you're italian, Geraldo Dirivia
>>585790267the horde shouldn't even exist after warcraft 2 so be thankful you've had 20 years of dev bias
Tauren should just have. >Plainsrunning>Warstomp>Endurance>Some Boon of the Earth Mother based passive that gives them more spirit. Nothing overtly offensive, but reinforcing the general bulky/tanky literal spiritualist type with two stat racials that are still generally beneficial. The cultivation racial is stupid that it just freely dupes herbs even without herbalism
>>585790339There's always these cope options. You could just go Geralt Ofrivia but it's not a cooool use of 2 names.
>>585790229i get it, you are retarded, you don't need to keep telling me
>>585790334>>585788929it gets better>he regrowthed himself10/10 would pay the hybrid tax again
>>585790243just use the name he wanted before vesemir called him a retardGeralt Roger Eric du Haute-Bellegarde
>>585788842yes, I don't care about 2.5mins of numlock? Explain why you do please. Normally you have to forgo something in order to afford to 40 mount and now I don't have to
>>585790172I hope they introduce arena even if it only rewards honor
>>585790351There shouldn't have been hard locked factions in the first place. We need beta+.
>>585790448Sure, but that's your personal preference. For anyone who wants to level fast, get to instances on time, or pvp, a mount is far superior to plainsrunning. Your statement was>tauren now don't need the level 40 mounthence my response. Not everyone is a shit eating casual like you, basically.
>>585790440Why are you posting tbc shit like that has any relevance here? Anyone still parse logging tbc is clearly stupid anyway so don't respond to me again
>I can't wait to play Tauren for that plainsrunning racial it's gonna be so good to move around at 60% speed
>>585790440Warlocks need to be classified as hybrid
>>585790519>Not everyone is a shit eating casual like you, basicallyWhich is why wow fucking sucks.
>>585790448why do you care about plainsrunning vs regular running
>>585790579From my perspective, you fucking suck.
>>585790592Isn't that the only time Plainsrunning is relevant? Before 40.
it's gonna be fun mind controlling speeding cowcucks off the thousand needles lift
>Running around on a pvp ruleset>See a tauren hauling ass on foot>hit em with a DoT and keep running in the other direction just to slow them downNothin personnel cow
>>585790616Retail thread is two blocks down. Go and stay go in a version tailor made for you.
>>585790558kek it do be like that, gonna put a dot everytime I encounter a Tauren just to make them hate their life
10 forever players can beat up 10 million retail players
tauren is bis in pvp
>>585790675Actually, retail is the result of catering to retards like you who think anyone who plays better than themselves is doing it wrong. Hence homogenization, casualization, convenience, etc.
horny for this game
>>585790648>>585790653I am so happy psychos willingly segregate themselves from everyone.
>>585783752>>585783505Well, they probably realized why rogues can't "do the most single target damage" in PVE and it is because then they rape everyone in PVP so they're adding some raid buff utility so at least 1 rogue gets a raid slot.
>>585790819>He fell for the AI pulling SoD info and presenting it as relevant to forever baitanon...
>>585790653I'll make sure to /moo at your corpse after stomping you
>>585783904You WILL bring me to raids and I WILL be top 5 DPS every single boss fight just like I was in vanilla and TBC. Only the most geared try hard mages will out DPS a good rogue. Maybe an overgeared hunter.
>>585784120Enhance and Feral are meme specs that are vastly inferior dps to any combat rogue.
>>585790771No, retail is result of purity spiral and gatekeeping brought by gearscore in wotlk, you made your raiderio and logs bed, don't call it a grave.
>>585784027>rogues are the only melee dps that would use daggers>dagger spec is always worse than swordsbravo blizzard
>>585785472This is the way.
>>585784027True, but you still probably wanna feed someone daggers, and any rogue that's willing to be playing a daggers rogue in pve instead of thinking they're a sword king and just want all the cool looking swords is probably the kind of guy that will actually be playing a rogue well enough to warrant keeping around.
>>585790046Based and redpilled.
>>585791034>>585791053hunters can use daggers
Bros I'm so hyped I'm at work now and already planning my three characters for later
>>585791034Warriors want a very specific dagger
Everyone stay out of my way on launch, I'm gonna need to be going fast
when does the name reservation open up?
>>585786531You can create your own AI agent and give it configs to use specific external resources. Called RAGs in the biz. So probably not by default but there is absolutely nothing stopping anyone from setting up a local agent with context storage and directing it to farm 4chan for contextual info.
>>5857911577 hours and 40 minutes
>>5857911576pm cet
>>585781874damn horde really did get walked all over huh?
>>585786531>>585791178Yeah I've seen Gemini use 4chan threads for retrieval before when I looked something up on Google
ALEXENSUAL WON...HE FUCKING WON...
>>585791208horde used to have it way better so they buffed alliancethey should have just given horde an easy way to get to kargath and it would be even
shield slam status?
>>585791252He won the tightest ass competition? I believe it.
I'm so glad they nerfed orc into the ground and horde racials are absolut dogshit now hahaha
>>585786805>addicted to giving birthThis is not a thing and the fact this fetish exists solely in the degenerate porn produced by Japanese men says a lot (lowest fertility rates on Earth). Porn is always a projection of sexual fantasies.
>>585791323I can't.
while everyone is going to be busy fighting over tags I'll be runny all over azeroth grabbing all the important flight paths
What's the logic behind Tauren being the only one without pve dps racial?
>>585791381cow goes fast
>>585789545>>585789451>>585789438na 95 average is good, you can't get good rng and mechanic luck everytime, funny if you think you need to be spending hours resetting encounters to get 100 parses or high all stars, good guilds aren't doing that in eu/na.... was way easier to get high parses after china was banned(no chinese logs during wotlk classic) and the chinese do parsewhore and do all the things you imagine me doing.i could be making everything up and I'm a shitter but you can believe what you want
>>585787058In Vanilla WoW most world firsts and top guilds were alliance. Once Horde got paladins it was over for the Alliance.
>>585791381every raid boss fight requires moving
>>585791381Probably an excessive amount of value being placed on plainsrunning.
how does it make sense for a bipedal cow to be able to run so fast? at least make them get on all fours like the animals they are
female human magepvpsolo
>>585788845>t makes zero difference. You'll still be able to clear the content in exactly the same time as anyone else.Forever raids are going to be easy baby cake bullshit like all raid content has been since WOTLK.
>>585787058>blood elves which is the most popular race by milesIt was the most popular because it was the only Horde race that's pleasant to look at, so obviously everyone made that one. There was no choice.Alliance had 2 so playerbase was split between them.
I'm starting to understand why the original wow team just cut plainsrunning entirely from Tauren on the 2004 launch, and the current team thinking they could handle it is an example of unmatched hubris.
>>585789436>Feels good to be eurochad, for once we have the advantage with release times!Yea Forever WoW launching at 0100 is so optimal and advantageous...
>>585791134Forever is getting rid of all of the wonkiness that made warriors want to use daggers. No weapon skill, and prot works as a spec without going all in on heroic strike spam.
>>585791506Cows are known for being fast distance runners... right?
Guys which faction do I save a character for on PvP to prevent lockout at release
>>585791034It evens out because dagger rogues will get daggers faster than any other rogue weapon and leaving swords to fury wars and tanks helps the raid as a whole
>>585791674eu - hordena - ally
>>585791346>tfw your society's birth rates are so fucked that giving birth is a sexual fetishIt's so over for japs
>>585791680Usually the weapon speed desired by rogues is not what tanks want. Fury warriors should fuck off. Blizzard is trying to make them bad so I hope they're dogshit.
>mfw last minute racial change before release will buff hordeget fucked alli scum
>1 more week of having nothing to doHow do you cope with the wait /vg/bros?
>>585791838They said multiple times that there will be no changes after name reservation.
>>585790519wow anon you're such a pro player for getting those 99s...>level fastoh you're one of those retail trannies
>>585791864Cleaning my flatPlanning gamer groceries
>>585791953Your flat what? Chest?
>>585788406Alliance warlock will always be at the bottom
>>585791937I'm just saying that mount > plainsrunning.
>>585785472you're going to actually play the game and not complain? Wow
>>585791981it's justice
>>585791864Work.
>>585791896Doesn't matter I'd rather play the underdog anyway so I don't have to feel bad about killing greys on the PvP server since I'm just helping server balance
They're finally being honest...
is it true that the end game zones aren't finished yet
>>585790448But you're forgetting the part where you lose stacks as soon as you get hit or stand stillHonestly you sound like someone that has not played tauren in the beta, it's way overhyped, even if they made it stack twice as fast I still would think it's meh.
>>585780105Have you ever played a Warlock?
>>585786708Improved
>>585791612That's why I said for once. With name reservation we won. And also to be honest, I'm fine with midnight launch here because then I can just play the whole day after getting up. Hopefully most servers are stable by then.
>>585792029Didn't know you were a superhero...
>>585791346Japan isn't even the lowest lol. Actually Japan is quite good compared to their neighbors. Korea has gone past the point of no return.
>>585792486slave rp? kinky
>>585792020of course mount is better but not that much for me (especially as a hunter). Not sure what you don't understand
>>585784389Mental illness
>>585792321it goes down slowly when you stand still, you don't lose all stacks instantly
>>585792538As always. Mongolians are based.
>>585792538What I'm seeing is they should import mongols
will we be able to customize the character on the early name reservation too?
holy fuck female elfs and female humans are made for white human males (ME)
it's important to remember the name reservation is actually a lotteryif you reserve 'six seven' you have 1 ticket towards getting that name
that spirit buff to human feels wrong
Can I buy the 30 dollar pack right now and still be able to reserve a name? no idea if you were supposed to have beta access for that or is the 30 bucks pack enough
>>585792738Manchu Qing were the best thing to happen to China before China started being Chinese. It was a catastrophic freefall after that and the Han got established.
>>585792538The golden horde will claim china.
>>585792910cope
>>585792825It's first come first serve, but you already knew that.
>>585792998its called trolling, killjoy
>>585792998We're going to have to be awake and active to claim Six Seven on all 4 game modes of all 4 regions then.... May the best gamer win.
>>585793040I will not tolerate misinformation.
it's over for horde
>>585792525lots of me you don't know about things, Keith
>can't even play the race i want because tauren have zero dps racials
>>585784389brain worms are eating your prefrontal cortex
>>585793131Humanbros...
>>58579291930 gives you skyborne elves and name reservationcould just read the shop page bro
Cant decide, should I use the same name I usually use everywhere with different family names, or use different names with the same family name for my alts...Choices...
>>585792747its like server launch except you cant press Playand you are capped to 3 characters
>>585792958not really im going gnome priest, but flat % spirity 5% was already good, 10% feels like it could be broken considering all the spirit gear had in beta
>>585793281>Mazedbitch i am the bull of minos, literally minos' bull
>>585791381They get a survivability racial instead because they are bulky cows. Hope this helps parsetranny-kun :)
So now night elf is just the best whenever it's available? Lmao
>>585793281no one is going to give a shit about your lastnameeveryone will call you by your first name so focus on that
>>585793072names are unique per region, not per rulesetthere will only be one six seven in EU and one in the US
>>585793447nope, gnome is the better rogue but aside from that yes
my name? "challenger explosion" of course
pvp is obviously the way to go, but i can't decide between pvp or rp-pvp
>>585793364God damn, this website really attracts priests, huh? Priest is one of the lowest classes played and yet every 4chan guild ive joined is like 25% priests.
>>585793567pvp is the main serveronly make the opposite faction character on rp-pvp
>>585793567>rp-pvpBeen thinking about it, but its going to die 3 months in, and I will be there standing in an empty field pants down.
>>585793364Yeah I was going gnome priest but now I'm gonna go humie. Sounds really good
>>585793604will you really notice the difference, though? even if rp-pvp has 10 times less players than pvp i bet the server will still feel packedif anything, the lower population of rp-pvp might eventually cause a lot less layering/sharding issues
>>585786973the skelf speed racial is worthless outside of the open world. the 3% haste when all other passive racials are 2% is the obvious preferential treatment. Besides the 5% spirit, but its spirit..
>>585793573I wonder if Priest is an INT- thing.
>>585793696the biggest issue i have with human is that they cant use the racial heal on themselves and feedback sucks, so its meh for pvp
>>585793736skelf racial was nerfed to 2% haste dimwitted asshole
>>585793739am priest am INTP-T
>>585793372minos bull is a pretty good name
Forever also has battlegrounds right? Why would I go on a PvP server then when I can just queue for PvP?Sounds like you guys just want to do PvP in a setting where your opponent is not necessarily expecting PvP
not sure if they've talked about this already, but are they going to enforce forced faction balance on the pvp server? as in you might not be able to create a horde character if there's too much of them already compared to alliance?
>orc>male>warrior>bald with a dopey retard faceIts gaming time
>>585793573they're subs and priest is the ultimate sub class.
>>585787113>blue elf speed is a shitty sprint with a cast time, not bad but not insanenot anymore, if you use it at a layline it is a 30% movement speed buff that lasts for an hour and it persists through death and stays up in combat. It's going to be busted op in BGs.
>>585793739I like priest and I'm INTJ I think, definitely was something with INT though but it's too long ago
>>585792919no, beta access was 60 bucks
>>585793891>Sounds like you guys just want to do PvP in a setting where your opponent is not necessarily expecting PvPexactlynext question
why the hell do taurens get the only god damn racial that actually impacts gameplay beyond a bullshit percentage change in damagefuck younerf horde
>>585793805it was 3% a few days ago you uppity pretentious cunt
>>585793926you're on a website for schizophrenic antisocial shut-in shy and wholesome incels of course you're all INT-something.
>forced to go ally if I want to find a decent guildFUCKYOUFUCKYOUFUCKYOUFUCKYOUFUCKYOUFUCKYOU
>>585793917read it again more carefully
>>585793917>30% movement speed buff that lasts for an hourme when I can't read
>>585793997How? There will be a million guilds
>#nochanges classic players are now letting megaservers happen without putting up a fightwhat happened? why did they turn into giant pussies
>>585794052>she doesn't go to the elemental convergence before raid or premade bgskicked, sis.
They call it "Fire" but I'm guessing it's more like Spellfire at the moment
>>585794101keep digging that hole
>>585794085Actually playing through classic in 2019 made the #nochanges retards go away quietly. They'll never admit to being wrong though
>>585794069Yeah and all the good ones are going to be ally, far superior racials all around on pvp and better ones in pve as well. Not to mention they get better movement around the world.
>>585794102Nope, Spellfire didn't make the cut
>>585794102what the fuck is a pure melee hunter doing up there
>>585794102These ai slop sims are a joke
>>585794197are you really that stupid?
>>585794223PVMPINGBLASTING even
>>585794223The tree is nothing but damage, it's designed more like a wotlk/cata spec than classic.
>>585794197Oh its just the allycuck false flagging again
>>585794227you're a joke and probably ai slop as well
>>585793993Yeah that sounds like me. I'm checking wholesome chungus
>>585794223it has insane scaling steroids, its only going to get better
>>585792910The indomitable human spirit is a well documented phenomenon that leads white nations to challenge the borders of space and science.
>>585794102yeah just like we used to call warrior dps "furyarms" in classic, since heroic strike is an arms ability
>>585794085I do wish classic fags would blow up blizzard hq over those changes too anon.
>>585794102where do people get these sims from
>>585794282If you think hunter and warrior will be highest dps your delusional
>>585794085I too want to play on dead servers.
>>585794364mythic sim
>>585794364some indian vibecoded website
>>585794085Megaservers seemed like a good idea at first but there are way too many people to Quest comfily. It'll be a pain desu.
Bros im at the ER in bad shape with an aggro flu, hope i make it to play with y'all on the 4th :(
>>585794381i'm taking you to the infirmary
>>585794390people should have the choice to play on dead serversi've raided on servers with 1 raiding guild, i like an empty worldyou have no argument against this
>>585794223Have you checked the hunter talent trees? Just by 5 points in BM you get 30% melee attack speed and 11 points in marksman gives you lone wolf +20% damageDump the rest in survival and its no wonder the spec is ridiculous
>>585794416Damn bro hope you'll get better soon. If you recover shortly before release it will probably be a godly feeling to play though
When does name res start?
>>585793917BGs strip the convergence buff retard chama
>>585794209>doesnt talent into arcane wrathwut
>>585794390they can literally merge dead servers whenever they want
>>585794439well then better suck it up buddy, you won't get your way this time and there's nothing you can do about this ;^)
>>585794521and yet they don't, because they're lazy frauds of a competent dev team
>>585794509
>>585794523no argument found
>>585794412its really not that tough, just group up for quests and once you are done, drop the group and you get put on an empty layerI only had little bit of issues in the very first zone on the stress test6-12 was a breeze
>>585794556they don't because they'd have to explain to shareholders that the game is shrinking
>>585794521The moment a server starts dying It's already too late since people are just going to quit because they feel bad for playing on a dead server.>>585794439then play on era
>>585794610did anyone do the skelf zone? how was it?
I will never play hunter as long as "weaving" is a thing
>>585794646>The moment a server starts dying It's already too late since people are just going to quit because they feel bad for playing on a dead server.not my problem>>585794646not an argument
>>585794102>peek into the survival melee hunters gearwhat in gods name is this shit
>>585794496Thanks, that's what i get for going to a small gym, some roider "no rest" retard prob contaminated us allI just saw that name reservations also happen today at 1pm pdt, ill try not to miss that
>>5857945026 hours and 20 minutes
>>585794704Yeah, It's blizzard's problem and they fixed it. They're definitely not going to be keeping up dead servers for the 1% who enjoy it. Set up a server and play with bots if that's what you want.
>>585794725Looks BiS to me?
>>585794439I played most of my time on a Low-Mid population server with 20-80 faction split on the less popular side.There were perhaps 3 guilds capable of 25 mans on Alliance. Sure it was comfy but I wouldn't do it again.
>>585791381Their power budget goes into things that make them feel more like actual minotaursThey probably have the fluffiest racials in the game, losing out on 1% hit/crit for an aoe stun on a short CD and a really unique movement passive is a good trade.
mage or warlock
>>585794772>dead servers1250 daily pop isn't dead by any measurethey can just merge every server that reaches 1249 nightly max at 12:01ami solved blizz's problem for them
>>585794725Weird how theres no STR focus on anything here considering its a STR biased spec
>is called wow forever>whole gimmick of the game is that it's going to be a permanent home and that everything you do will stay relevant forever>ironically will end up being less forever than classic era, where bis gear will still be bis gear 5 years from now
gnome warlockonahole
>>585794610>just group uphow about no? I don't want to group up with others they should just fuck off from my spot. I hate this mentality, just because we're doing the same quest doesn't mean we need to group up. just want to chill and have a good time questing ffs
>>585781278Okay so what's the excuse for NA Illidan where you literally need an addon called Block Chinese just to use trade chat?
>>585794754Do you have a laptop with you where you can reserve your names?
>>585794828both
>>585794725other than the weapons it looks pretty normal
>>585794865how is grouping up not "good time and chill"?you literally have other people work for you
>>585794845I'm pretty sure they're shooting for more than 5k pop.
>>585794223It's not pure melee - learn to read.
>>585794939Because then I have to adjust to their speed
>>585794837It's too late by that point, merging servers doesn't stop the bleeding once a server is deemed as 'dead' no matter how true that is. I don't know why you're arguing for this when they already tried it the first time around.
>>585794845WoW Forever doesn't mean WoW StaticSo dumb>>585794651Literally funnest part of their gameplay.
>>585794725Never seen a classic melee prebis list before?
>>585794939the worst part is that you finish and both move to the next area so it feels strange to drop group since you are fighting the next enemies together.Then you cant slow down or take a break so need to rush to keep up with them and there is no way out
solo priestjust wandin and chillin
they should've left sp scaling on wandsfuck blizz
>>585795020they let servers fall to 300 players before mergesthey never did what i suggested
megaservers are the way forward, even if the game will be having fucked layering for the first month or sot. had to transfer his character three times on SoD because his server died
>>585794995no you dontyou keep doing your stuff and they do their stuff, you just benefit from their labour by finishing up the shitty kill quest faster, rather than slower because you are fighting over the mobs
>>585794841It's a weaving build so agility is better than str, retard.
>>585795043you are contradicting yourselfisint it a good think if you take a break so you dont have to stay in the group anymore?once you come back they will be ahead of you and you wont be doing the same quest anymore so no need to group up anymore
>>585795217yea I'm fine with the sharding shit, megaservers will atleast make sure there's always players available
>>585794725that's not incorporating any of the new gear. also looks normal
>>585794908I believe i'll be out of here in a few hours so i'll be back home (hopefully), if not then w/e still have laterIm still trying to decide between rp and rppvp
>>585794469It's insane that hawk wasn't moved to later in the tree. It used to be an extremely lackluster talent because aimed shot was 3 seconds long and shots clipped your auto attacks. Now they have the strongest attack speed boost in the game on row 1, and it has zero downsides.
>>585795219I don't want to share the mob though. It's mine. It was funny there were some quests where I had a group running around the location clearing small fry stuff for me and I sniped the single important mobs from them kek
>>585795303no because then I leave and come back and they are still on the next quest so we still run into each other
>>585795327Ah got you, I thought you meant you're stuck in the ER for the next days because it's that bad. Good for you
>>585794841survival tree has % agi scaling still
>>585795217my only problem with the ""megaservers"" is the complete and full lockout of ever playing on opposing factions, which undoubtedly plays into their hand wringing schemes of forcing you to pay for another account entirely
>>585793131Oh great. Now I look like a tryhard for playing night elf when that was what I was always going to play.
>>585794841oh and they also get 100% AP from INT in MM while getting lonewolf
>>585795378SW:Pain mob tagging and watching people kill my mobs for me is hilarious
>wanted to play warrior>friend was struggling with what class to pick, he had no idea>wake up today>"im playing warrior"Fuck me
>>585795431I think they will remove it in like 3 months or something, it's needed for a healthy launch but has little point afterwards
>>585795431i agree with you but atleast you could go the opposing faction on rp-pvp nowalthough i would rather wish they would just remove the faction lock entirely
>>585795590Now you understand why no one wants to bring a warrior.
>>585795590why didnt you tell him earlier that you are playing warrior?
>>585795703>>585795703>>585795703
>hunters can get all of their valuable dps talents from marksman and bm trees with 35 points to spend in survivalWhoever designed this shit sure wants hunters to be overpowered as fuck.
>>585795415They dont have space or manpower to keep "just a flu" patient regardless of how bad it is so they'll def send me home today, never trust socialized medicine
can't decide between human and skelf mage brosdon't care about racials at all, but about the vibe and lore, I feel like both are too cool to miss, been stumped on this for days to the point I might have to make two mages
>>585794102>>585794209You expect faggots to know what Spellfire is? They just called it Arcane Pyro.
>>585795750Im going skyborne because they have more flavor, their two activating racials are more fun than stun break and perceptionthey have flashier animationsget to go to dalaran very earlythey simply feel like the main characters in forever
>>585795750I'm going skelf (muslim) because of the new areas desu
>>585795750Human mage has always been sucky because you're a big musclebound conan looking mfer - not a skinny old wizard.Skelf is way superior in both looks and lore if you ignore the sky part and just pretend they are highborn
>>585792538Mongolia is huge and has a very low population for such a huge country.
>>585792681Adapting to drinking milk has made them physically superior to every other type of Asian.
>>585792538Quite good in this context is just "The least balding man in the room", except for Mongolia, of course.
>>585797723That's because most of the country is a fucking desert or just pastures to raise cattle and sheep, but no agriculture. Why do you think most of their history was invading other places?
>>585793108Doing important work in these times of misinformation and fake news, much appreciated.
>>585798495There are 100,000,000 people in Egypt. Go look at satellite images of Egypt.
>>585799093Are you saying Egypt has no agriculture?
