>News, Dev Blogposts & Podcasthttps://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/>Patch Noteshttps://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-october-15/2360696/6>Talent Calculatorhttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app>DatesName reservations on October 27.The journey begins on November 4.>Upcoming /wowfg/ NA Guilds<Clover Club> RP-PvP Alliance | https://discord.gg/ZQ2uWkqbc<FUN HAVERS> PvE Alliance | https://discord.gg/TNTkQTpdVD<Remigration> PvP Horde | https://discord.gg/K9QFCzxf>Upcoming /wowfg/ EU Guilds<Wrench> PvE Horde | https://discord.gg/pMkz4EVB<Niflheim> RP-PvP Alliance | DiscordlessPrevious >>585795703
Its literally the end of Forever
>cuckliance when one or more of the horde racials are slightly above them: OMG OMG NERF NERF NERF THIS IS BULLSHIT BLIZZARD!!!!>cuckliance when their racials are leagues above horde racials: R-R-RACIALS D-DON'T M-MATTER STOP C-CRYING H-HA HA....
ogre bros... not like this
REMINDER:Retailbabs know deep down that this is WoW 2 and their game is being sunsetted.Imagine losing 10,000 hours of mounts mogs cheevos and thousands of neetbux spent on cash shop mounts and costumes.I'd be seething too! Try to keep that in mind and have a little compassion when you see their posts shitting up the place.
>>585811053All the racial complaining is from horde thirdies lil gup
>another full week of sleepies
>refuse to heal parsefags so they die>they ragequit the group>queue up and find another DPS instantlylol lmao
dwarf or gnome priest
just give me back my crit
>>585811053why are greyparsers seething about 1% dps difference now ?
female human magepvpsolo
>>585811157>parse>pug??
>tfw no guild I'm afraid I wont get groups after the first few days for dungeons
>>585811216soon to be orced
>>585811204Retail trannys and jeets
>>585811123>da horde is le brown!!!!>meanwhile every turd world shitter plays cuckliance
>parsing when half the rotations are single buttons
hordeniggers full on meltdown now that they don't have their OP pvp racials
>>585811053why is nobody talking about the insane bullshit night elves have? Everyones always crying about human toe lengths while elves just dab on everything
Shaman need dual wield.
>>585811253play a hybrid
gobbos will save forlo
>>585811053same energy
>>585811289no jews ?
>>585811312Blizzard and pitting Orc and Human against each other to slip OP stuff through for the other races.
>>585811296Sure if you say so, Mahmood Fatahi
>>585811329they dont even have a new race planned for the next fucking year
>>585811298>have to be objectively inferior in pve and pvp>no shoes>literal mudhuts>le evil race but with dei woke slop injected now insteadit's honestly never been more over for horde, you'll never be able to make an alliance character on pvp kek
>>585811123>>585811331so trueorc cucks never had 1% crit in the first place it was axe specialization you can't lose what you never had
>>585811298>brownliance literally melting down all beta over ud and orc racials>their tantrums brought plebbit to a standstill for a full week
>>585811387>>585811331You bigmad.
Realistically, how log before they allow race changes?I'm not 100% set on my choice... it might be>le badand nobody will invite me to groups...
Plainsrunning is nice while you're in the world levelling or hoofing it to a new flight path but beyond that its useless. Would be nicer to have something useful for dungeons
>>585811312because no stremer qqd about them yet im sure when they get crit half a dozen times in a row by a rogue or a hunter and see why they will
trannies ritual posting and running pr damage control for the troon companies bad decisions and poorly thought out racial changes, when this behavior is what killed retailhow can we accelerate your suicides so gaming can heal with your presence finally gone
>night elfie>long white hair>black mageweave + tabard transmogyeppp it's gaming time>racialsdon't care
>>585811298thing is horde racials are still op loldont know what theyre complaining about
>>585811331For every one mudslime on the horde there's like 20+ jeets on the saarliance kek
>asmomkiller is the Chad white male alliance player>balding, incel, terminally ill online, Cassie shitter owned by Jewish corpos
>>5858110531.5% difference is relevant for only mechanically perfect players both in rotation and boss mechanics. It will affect only the top 0.001% of players.
I want to roll on the RP realmset so I can evade the faggots and streamercancer, but I am afraid that there won't be enough players around to do raids and battlegrounds. Am I being a schizo?
>can't reserve my name because I'm wagecuckingfucking gay
>>585811216soon to be raped by male troll shadow priest
>>585811531Pair it with cultivation and you have the perfect bot race
>>585811617don't say that or zoomerfags will kill themselves
>>585811525You can just level a new character and they wont tune shit to where racials are make or break.
>>585811610See>>585811053Learn to read brownoid.
>>585811603t. mudhut jeet
>>585811665poor lil baber got an upset tum :(
>Tauren>DruidI'm going home.
>>585811665>warcraft_icons.jpgA giant blue fishgirl is watching a dwarf in a submarine.
>>585811531>Plainsrunning is nice while you're in the world levelling or hoofing it to a new flight path but beyond that its uselessno no you dont understand youll be a pvp KITE GOD then youll get dotted warstomp a lock pet and get back up to 60% in like a minute
>>585811696White excellence is killing your mom and being the running joke of the internet.
>>585811053>pveno one cares about racials for pve
>>585811312Streamers complained about horde racials because of the horde pvp tournament and the "HORDE ALWAYS HAD BETTER RACIALS" meme.Dwarf only got buffed because everyone doesn't want to be a dwarf shaman so they bitched about the dwarf racials not being amazing since people don't play ugly classes without big buffs to them. It was pointless to buff dwarf racials though since they made totems raid wide so you don't want more then a single shaman now.
>>585810951>still no eu pvp hordesince when is ebaums this cucked
>>585811696>the jewish controlled roach is what the zoomliance view as their role model Grim.....
The one race/class combo I really miss is Troll Druid
>>585811665bgs are shared amongst your faction
Lmao. OP of that shitpost here. My post is now making the rounds in wow related discords and even broke containment and has its own reddoot threat on classicwow with almost 300 updoots. Kek'd. I just heard the racial and talent changes leaks from a streamer and larped about it. It's funny to me that someone on the wow dev team will def see that post, and see the comment about aggrends girth and the donuts.
>>585811603Blizzard listening to people like (You) who needed everything to have exact parity at all times is precisely what killed retail actually. Anyone who tells your dumb brown ass to shut the fuck up is doing everyone a public service
>>585811827>meme>objective truthi look forward to your reply linking me EMFH while ignoring orc stun resist, undead fear break, tauren aoe stun and blood elf aoe silence
>name reservation time is active>can't enter game?????
>>585811696>>585811617>here is your peak masculine leader cuddites>a guy that has barely left his room in 40 years, never (really) had a gf, cant cook, threw trash out his window for years, and can barely functionGrim chat.
>>585811838get fucked
People keep pointing out that plainsrunning takes 2.5 minutes to get to 60% movement speed, it doesn't need to be at max level for you to never be able to catch a Tauren hunter with an even better speed aspect or Tauren feral druids using it in combination with stealthChanges come in two forms comically overpowered like plainsrunning or completely gutted like the life steal undead one
>>585811938kek based
>>585811838EU is all brownoid mudslimes that only play pve and cheat on parses.
Reminder that Dwarves will be the most popular Warrior race.
I haven't seen a hordelet meltdown this big since BfA
>>585811827>Streamers complained about horde racials because of the horde pvp tournament and the "HORDE ALWAYS HAD BETTER RACIALS" meme.so are alliance gonna be the bg winning faction now?
>>585812104Yeah because as we know ganking lowbies is true aryan male behaviour lmao, coping faggot
>>585812006Plainsrunning is going to be fucking amazing, you only need a few stacks to already tell a differenceLike if I had to choose between plainsrunning and 1% more damage at level 60 in trivially easy content I know what I'm picking
>>585811987Did he ever explain why he’s such a fucken retard? Throwing trash out the windows is some crazy 3rd worlder activities
they've nerfed orc every patch of the beta
>>585811961crazy that if you don't get in within the first minute you literally threw $30 away yet people do it anyway
what's even the point of playing if I missed reserving Oprah Windfury
>>585812006>looks in your general direction>any Dot or instant spell removes it, intercept removes it, hunter probably too dumb to stay out of cheetah in pvp so he's also dazed
What do I think about Azeroth Survivors?
>>585812173>euromong pretending he has honor now
>>585812173ogtucker approved
>>585811617>>585811696owned by the same jewish night media organization as hasan
>>585812148>now
Clothcucks get the rope
>My brother and his friends asking me to play with them on pve server>I just know they will most likely quit before even hitting 60>I want to get to 60 in week 1 and get preraid>I feel bad saying no and also on the off-chance they don't quit would be fun for once to have friends in-game.Guess I can always reroll later and make a pvp char.
alex status?
>>585812279I would be extremely shocked if someone gets my name even before Nov 4. But I will reserve it just in case.
>>585812141>Pick the bad guy faction>Get mad when they do bad thingsThe burning of Teldrassil was the funniest thing that Blizzard ever did
>>585811617I don't even give a rat's ass about politics. I've never liked Assmongoloid and don't understand why anyone does. He has the charisma of a dead frog and looks (and lives) like a hobo.
>>585812367he was a founder, and left because his takes were making it hard for the agency, hes repeatedly said if it wasnt for twitch tos he would be 1000times more based
>>585812379>non pre made lose>premade win
>>585812006Thats llike saying you will never catch a feral druid, or a hunter, or a paly, or a shaman, or a roguec ect when in reality we know that bs. Its good for leveling at best but that is it.
Trannies still malding about Asmongold? Just leave the kids alone bro
>>585812428Arc over. Guess straton industries in connecticut have him busy.
>>585812367>>585811696These edits are so good lol.
>>585812428Runs over
>>585812398You are saying you prefer not having friends in an MMO and just raid logging?
>>585811665>rolling RP to evade the faggotsUh... anon...
>>585811296Okay Mudhutter
>>585812490>hes repeatedly said if it wasnt for twitch tos he would be 1000times more basedjust like the peanut nigger “IM GONNA SAY A SLUR” and the faggot plays a bleep when his mouth doesnt move
>>585812559nigga is covering a shift in mcdonalds on 5th and 6th for someone
>Blizzard distracting people with stupid fucking racial changes so nobody notices Shaman is unplayable and Rogues still do dogshit damage even after Blizzard promised they'd be the best
>>585812572I'm saying the only reason I said yes to them is cause I'd like to have friends. But its very likely they will quit before even hitting 60 or take 4 months to hit 60.
>>585812256I dunno he never grew up and his parents were pieces of shit who didnt disciplin him I guess.He said they used to do that for years until the neighbor complained to the city and he had to pay someone to come clean it up or something.
>>585811961It's not active until 1PM pacific, anon
are raids mandatory to have fun? Can't I just sell potions and cook food for people?Is there really nothing else outside of endgame raids? I thought Forever is supposed to be like OSRS but for WoW
>>585812650Nah if you google his name and know where to look you'll see he works as a secretary at straton industries. He confirmed it himself when he started banning accounts with the company name as soon as they followed him on stream.
>>585812467nah they actually liked the burning of Teldrassilthe big BfA meltie came during 8.1, they were seething about Alliance attack on Dazar'alor with Rastanog dying and Mekkatorque / Jaina just teleporting away at 1 hpthen it spinned into a total meltdown where they complained about everything, Alliance getting back Stromgarde, Alliance getting a cool nelf cinematic in Darkshore, Boralus (and Kul Tiras in general) being better than Dazar'alor (Zandalar) etc.it lasted a few months, the forums were extremely funny back then
>muh racial>muh parseit's beginning again
which guild is lgbt friendly
>>585812660Warriors are going to be top dogs again like always, why even invite rogues? they do less dps than survival hunter.
>>585812814there's erp but most wow sluts nowadays are men pretending to be women>it was the same thing back then too anonno it wasn't!
>>585812910warriors also do less than a hunter, in both single target cleave and aoe, its green stacking time
>>585812901pve horde sister
Human: Lower vendor prices and reputation bonus.Night Elf: Can commune at moonwells and natural places of power for a HP/MP regen buff. Disabled in combat and instances. Gnome: Crafting time reduced by half.Dwarf: Keeps their Treasure Hunter skill as is. Can mine slightly faster.Orc: Beasts have a lower aggro detection radius. Can skin slightly faster.Tauren: Plainsrunning but it immediately disappears when you enter combat. Can herbalism slightly faster.Troll: Places a cauldron of Voodoo Brew. Party members can get Voodoo Brew from it which acts like a Warlock's healthstone and shares a cooldown with it.Undead: Either Cannibalize but its not usable in combat, or give them Feign Death on a 5m CD.There thats all you had to do really.
>>585812863i don’t even give a shit about parses, fuck all these whiny alliance NIGGERS whining until something is nerfed meanwhile their shit goes untouched fuck you eat shit
>>585812910>why even invite roguesfor bodyguarding in contested zones
>>585812398I have the same issue but ally vs. horde. All my "friends" are playing ally but they will likely burn/stall out around lvl 30-45
>>585812723He was clearly enabled by his mother. His dad seemed like a good guy that probably couldn't stand his mother undermining him trying to actually raise a kid and left her ass. He's the poster child of >raised by a fat single mom that just lets the kid do whatever he wants
Every single streamer and their sluts go alliance. It’s going to be just like 2005. Whats worse?>falling asleep from steamrolling alliance>going insane bacause my team is retardedWhat do?
>>585812975shhh, we cant let that be known yet.
>>585812814you can easily find a raiding group later on don't worry
>>585812991woah its like im really playing retail
Reminder that reddit cucks are still rolling Human after the nerfs. Don't be like Reddit, roll Horde.
>>585812814>Can't I just sell potions and cook food for peoplecasual guilds always have spots for people who just gather mats. join the rp realm and you'll get bonus points for being the guild cook as you larp in game.
>>585813090>going insane bacause my team has no goddamned healersThat's what'll do it for me. I love being Horde but Alliance always have far more healers. Every BG Horde side is going to be all Hunters and Retpallyfags
>>585813190Nope, rolling dwarf as God intended
>>585813090>Play Alliance RP>No streamers, population is usually more mature because they're forced to not act like spergs
>>585813190>Don't be like Reddit>posts an image taken from redditwhat did she mean by this...
>>585813052fuck it man, we ball with our friends. im gonna level as i planned, up to them to catch up, if they quit they quit. I can always make an alt later, not like theres a rush and FOMO is fake af, i rerolled after aq40 on anniversary and was geared and caught up on a brand new warrior raiding naxx in a new guild within 1 month. ez.
>>585813236Uhh I'm thinking based
>>585813190horde is the reddit faction
>>585813263>RP>No streamersdont tell him
Which server are they playing on together?
>>585813226the retpally plague on the horde is sadly real, I had to do 7 runs of the new bg for a single win as horde due to all the ret pally shitters running into alliance and dying without healing or buffing anyone
why do dadgamers shit their pants about retail having too many map icons they can ignore or turn off because they don't the hecking spoons required to pay attention, but want to play the version of the game where they have to micromanage trash pull CCs and watch aggro instead of blendering them, anyway
>>585813340pvpskelf ally and skel horde, they can communicate and quest together on different factions
When will they submit and add belfies?
>>585813340PVP Horde
>>585812708what do you mean? Is 1,5sec GDC high or low?
>>585813340pvphordetauren
60%+ plainsrunningBASED lore accurate Taurens, Blizzard is keeping it real
For me it's night elf male warrior. Gonna larp as swifty doing pvp as fury. Now to somehow find a guild and psyop them to give me thunderfury when MC opens up. I fucking hope with the MC rework they make getting bindings easier somehow.
i really wonder if the 1% dwarf hit is going to make a big difference in gearing options for spells
>>585813424>fat tits and a black-coded assElves are supposed to be slender!
>>585813480it won't because items are gonna have tons of hit
1 hour and 35 minutes
>>585813438it triggers GCD so you cant act after breaking the stun
>Plainsrunning>lose all your stacks if you or a pet damages somethingFair right?
Is there any other class/race more edgekino than an undead rogue?
>>585813340rp pvp alliance
>>585813065What’s the lore behind him? Didn’t he have normal friends at one point? I seen a clip of him saying he used to go clubbing with them. He lets the truth slide every once and a while
>>585813275I'm probably gonna go ally but I am gonna power level way off into the distance and if they catch up they catch up, no sweat off my brow. I will be farming gold and gear and amassing my army of alts.
>>585811617nobody cares about ecelebs, you are a cringelord and sponsored and no amount of 12 year old edginess will make it less obvious.
>>585813579You mean 35 minutes?
I wonder if we're getting balance patchnotes besides the racial shit before launch>this popped as I was writingOH SHIT
healslutting on my skin color 3, face 5, braided tails, hair color 10, eye color 16 holy femdwarf paladin
>>585813637since cows are notoriously anxious creatures i think the tauren should lose its stacks if it is ever targeted by anyone
>was on a WoW lore discord for like 10 years>recently, humanfags went full chud, night elf fags went full terf and hordefags went full bluesky>said discord somehow got taken over by said bluesky hordefags and they kicked most of the alliance fags out for their "problematic views" (humanfags hating on horde and comparing them to irl minorities, night elf fags for hating on trannies)>posting twitter links is now banned because "elon is a nazi" (as stated in the rules)man what the fuck is happening to the world, I just wanted to play WoW and do some dwarf roleplay, everyone has gone nuts
it just pushed an update
>>585813638too bad blizzard is leaning into the "woe is me" emo faggotry for the forsaken instead of the heavy metal "kill all alliance females and cannibalize their corpses in contested zones" feel.
don't roll horde just because all your "friends" are horde and they tell you to go horde to play with them
My RP on the RP server will be as a human warrior that impregnates every horde female I defeat.
>>585813797They should instantly die of a heart attack if you take damage while at max stacks
>>585813808>night elf fags for hating on tranniesHow many trannies rolled nelfs or belfs for this reaction to be given lol?
The race will soon begin, who will get the name "Charlie Kirk" first?
>>585813808Look at the asmontranny and his fanfic. Aren't you a clever little boy
>>585811329Extremely off model even for blizzslop. If you can’t jork it to in the game style, how will adding them save the game?
>>585813331"He doesnt know" is the ultimate I have no argument post
>/follow tauren player>they start running>character adjust his speed to keep upTauren players will just turn into a taxi service and make bank
>new wowowawa and Lego same dayBROS
>>585813918all of them
>>585813721this fine upstanding indian gentleman is going to lose his paycheck now, and are you happy? are you happy chud?
>>585813797Shouldn't it gain stacks of run speed if its afraid?
>>585813808Adding Elv*s to the horde was a mistake
>>585813738Nope. 1 hour 29 minutes now.
what name do you reserve?
>>585813824it's twice as funny since they are portrayed as the sad sops while at the same time concocting plagues, wrist mounted bullshit poison launchers and corpse wagons
Pov youre about to kill her for the 5th time today
>>585814051Elvis would roll Horde because he was a straight white man
>>585813579>>585813738>>585814070it opens in 4 hours dipshits
>>585814018i will be happy when he has to send his jeeta sister to the west for rimjobs in order to buy lentils for his daily gruel.
>>585814034people dont start pissing faster if i stand next to them do they
IM IN SERVERS ARE UP I JUST RESERVED MY NAMES
>>585812490He would be 1000times more based if he stopped streaming get himself a wife and make couple of kids. He may say "based" things but doesnt do anything "based".
Hey guys I was in this horde and alliance discord and everyone on alliance was BASED and REDPILLED and everyone who played horde was totally GAY, NIGGER and TRANNYPlease like my post upvotes on the left. I really want alliance to become the cool faction, I'm kinda desperate about it actually
They really have no idea what they're doing a week before launch...
>>585814206Lmao all day I was thinking why are people baiting like this? Turns out euros just get it earlier.For EU it's in 1 hour and 25 minutes.
>>585814337did you honestly expect anything different?
>>585811053Nice to know tauren will be only RPchads.
is cat feral good?
>>585814401I already refunded. I'm just pointing and laughing at this point.
how the fuck do we know this shit won't die?Blizzard already gave up on era and anniversary servers.What? is a new forever revamped. gonna launch in five years? with new retcons and a retry at the lore? what the hell is even the plan?
I'm undecided>play a chud-coded troll on the RP server allowing ne to express my hatred for elves and my personal beliefs though WoW-themed dogwhistles>play a Dwarf because Alliance is getting all the cool stuffWarrior of course. I'd really enjoy the Troll's in-combat HP regen while leveling but I'm sure it's gonna get gutted. Don't hit me with the noshoes shit, trolls are cool.Are we getting cross-faction mail at least? Would be cool to have a farming alt in the opposite faction.
>>585811617
>>585814471You can tell by the streamer astroturfing that this thing is going to be a pump and dump
>>585814471How long did it take retail to die?
>>585812367you guys are shilling an eceleb whose managers have literally admitted to using viewbots. kys jeet
>>585814471Plan? Leftists can't plan ahead, lol. That's why all their policies have failed within a generation.
>>585814471anon classic came out 7 years ago, that's longer than the whole life time of wow, or at least it should have been
>>585814337They wont have an idea what they're doing 1 year into launch. It will be truly thre wildwest. Like a chaotic fun server actually sanctioned by blizzard.
>>585811617Yes. Asmon is based af lil bro.
>>585814484dwarf warrior is kino
>>585814484Dwarves are mega chuds too. You can be a Dwarf who hates elves. Also no, no cross faction mail.
>>585814471Classic lived for 6 years.Expect Forever to live as long.
>>585814471classic came out in 2019 and it died during SoD, that shit was like 6 years old lifespan
>>585814295But brother, Alliance has always been the cooler faction!
>>585814670but six years isn't Forever...
1 2 3 or 4
>>585812981pvp please
>>585814714dwarf female obviously
desu horde deserves nothing after years of favoritism
>>585814714If you're deciding purely based on that armor, either 1 or 2.
they cant ship forever with shamans in this state. alliance wont fucking have any wf for their raids.
Fellow Chuds,How do we do the name reservation? Just wait for the clock and launch the game?
>>5858147142
>>585811652>rotation>boss mechanics>in fucking vanillaEven SoD was a fucking joke and this is supposed to be easier than that, closer to actual classic lmao. Get fucking real.
>>585814714>Retail Minus setsHow can you play this
>>585814190Straight white men don't roll on the BIPOC faction.
>>585811053There is less than a 1% variance across every race. If anything that spreadsheet just proves that picking for racials for parsing is retarded, and one should only pick for pvp utility.
Sorry, but if I’m going to play a healer, I have to play a cute girl. *manly combat medic* is the most pathetic cope I’ve ever heard, fufufufu~
OrcBlood Fury’s cooldown reduced to 2 minutes (was 3 minutes).UndeadTouch of the Grave internal cooldown reduced to 15 seconds (was 25 seconds).We’d also like to clarify that for Skyborne:Charged persists through death, and is removed upon entering a raid.Attuned persists through death, and is removed upon entering a raid.
>>585814337I came in excited and wanting to like Forever but every singe time they announced something it was shit. With the other game modes and expansions at least you had to log in and get to the level cap to realize how they fucked up that time around.I might throw away 15€ in the hopes I'm wrong but I don't know how they could chamge my mind.
>>585814714>gnomes getting the iconic leper maskheh
>>585814815Look at classic Paladin T1 and T3 and stfu
>>585814908based
>>585814707That's when they release WoW Foreverer
>>585811053The crying about racials proves warriorchads right. It doesn't matter if the class damage balance is all within a 1% margin or a 50% margin, redditors will still complain.
>>585814503Bro needs to visit a chiropractor
>>585814295play wherever Olympus goes to and you'll get the most based and cool chuds around, unfortunately their streamer simps but the chat differences with horde are huge
>>585814714Male dwarves look the most balanced in that set but the female dwarf is pretty close too. Remember that in Forever you can change gender at the barber so you can just pick dwarf and swap around when you feel like it. Just pick a somewhat neutral name like Rowan Rockgobbler.
>>585813808> and do some dwarf roleplayThe forbidden love between a dwarf and a femlala, err, gnome. Such a scandal!
>>585814882>>585814908Undead are saved!>No Tauren buffAHAHAHAHAHA
>>585814908>the best DPS racial active is even fucking better noworcfaggots will still cry btw
>>585814908Forsaken Gods, we're back.
>>585814938T3 looks good? Tranny lol.
>>585812263>get 3 nerfs in a row>still within 1% of the best raceyeap balanced green nigger did not need any nerfs
>>585814908this flipflopping doesn't inspire much confidence in the game. Can't they stick to their vision for at least a month after launch?
>>585814814Rotations aren't hard true. Positioning is what can tank that 100% uptime slightly.
>>585814908lmao
So is Read Leyline still good or not? I'll be playing a mix of balance and resto for a mix of draognslaying and minigaming.I have deep-seated trauma related to mana issues so it's hard to ignore, but it doesn't really seem all that game-changing either.
>>585812303You are an npc
>>585814908>here's your final update>except these changes we accidentally "forgot" and totally didn't just make in a panic to capitulate to the crying!KWAB
>>585814908Final Pass (Final Final Final Truly For Real Edition) 5 more times before launch
>>585814631he is a sloptuber but literally hating him talking about his dead mom and "b4lding"(literally 99% of men) is glowie tranny shit and very obvious or you are his unironic fan trying to make his haters look bad, its very hard to tell
>>585815065No one is playing this game except streamcucks. Blizzard is trying their hardest to rugpull every retard they can.
>>585815156nobody thinks this will stop the crying
>>585814908>intended>decided after patch but certainly intended
okay but where are the final final final no really it's finally the final racial changes?https://files.catbox.moe/dbg4g2.png
>>585815121The new patch literally killed skelves. You're only racial for raiding is haste now.
>>585815196Holy mother of redpilled.
>>585814986oh shit you are right i forgot we can get snipped at the barber
>>585812141>Two nelf demigods almost losing to one dead bowguyFun times
>>585814908Horde is saved, time to rerun the sims and switch factions again
>>585814908Why dont you people ever link this shit? I can never tell when youre lying
WE ARE SO BACK
>>585814714Helm is like on the verge of being kino but something is off and I cant put my finger on it...
>>585814908Hegehehebe oh yea we're just adding some stuff that we forgot!! We're totally not flip flopping based on social media posts
>>585814797There wil be very few dorf shamans, people will get to 60 and start worrying about their parses, at which point the lack of wf will cause an absolute outrage and blizz will do something.
>>585815065honestly it just pushes me further into playing whatever class and race i want and not to minmax for shit since it might change on a weekly basis what is or isn't optimal.
>>585814471It will die and they probably know it.Nothing that they announced translates into making Forever into a forever game.The leveling is trivialized, the endgame is still based on raidlogging the latest tier. Constantly increasing player power works when you're gonna reset it somehow, so they for sure aren't planning for forever to last "forever".I'm not here to champion horizontal progression but at least it would have added some longevity.Aggrend is fat .
>>585815224>no tits>thighs aren't fatbut why tho
>>585814707AI will kill us before 6 years pass so don't worry about it.
>>585814908THEY WILL KEEP CHANGING RACIALS THROUGH THE ENTIRE WEEKI want to see parse niggers having a meltdown for reserving alliance and then blizz somewhat makes Horde rcials better
>>585814707it will be once the harrowing happens in 2030
>>585815249https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-october-26/2360696/8 here anon open wide
>>585814908fuck nooo i want my horde characters locked in fuck this shit nerf the racials again i dont want to get faction locked by minmaxxers who wont even reach 60
>>585815281Haha, this was the intent all along, please remember to pre order haha lol
>>585812263orcs shouldn't exist after tides of darkness so you have no reason to complain
>>585815331>The leveling is trivializedyou mean alt friendly
>>585814574BASED.AMEN!
>>585814908>this is the final update for this week
Asmongold's inner circle decided, there's more trolling opportunities by going Horde, where they can false flag as orcs and Black Lives Matters/George Fentanyl Floyd
>>585815192glowie=complete dishonestytranny=complete lack of social awareness
>>585814908>intendedyeah, sure. Totally not a panic bandaid on the swarm of people complaining. >>585815249Probably because it's the second link in the OP despite the URL saying the 15th.
>>585814882>alliance is within 0.2% but above horde:(>horde is within 0.2% but above alliance:)
>>585814337>here's your brand new completely not pulled out of our asses race of elves that look like draenei and blood elves had a miscarriage>by the way that'll be $30 plus tip>oh you wanted races like Ogres and Furbolgs for the longest time? lolnahAlready knew this was a dumpster fire from the start
wow: forever is blizzard's last chance
>>585815331>Classic except everyone can get to 60 easily Not classic
>>585815192I used to make dead mom jokes well before Asmongoy decided to pivot his grift and started pretending to be based.
The orc change was nice but its still heavily alliance leaning
>>585814908>nerf alliance last patch>buff horde nowWTF???
>>585815508
>>585815420Trumpberg is a leftist too. He serves the jew.
My primary concern was that the class and gear changes meant the lvling was trivialized, with players able to just chain pull and aoe mobs down. How is that looking?
>>585815518who asked
>>585815524Alliance is still way above Horde. Orc is now just the only relevant choice.
>>585815331what are the odds they will increase level cap or reduce our levels...
>>585815484>We want to remain true to the classic art style>Doesn't remain true I can't wait for the EoS announcement a year from now after Blizzard and their streamers run to the bank laughing.
>>585815508blizzard still has microsoft money
>>585815524alliance bros we need to take the STANCE and complain too
>>585814908>We just forgot to mention it bro, we totally didn't add it at the last secondAggrend lies as easily as he eats
Are there any dps cooldowns that care about the 2 minute CD vs. 3 minutes or is it mostly irrelevant?
What are we doing when assmongler inevitably rolls horde? How fucked is this game?
Tauren should gain Plainsrunning stacks significantly faster if within a certain distance to another running tauren. To the point where a full party of Tauren can build up max stacks in about 5 seconds.
>>585815653That's what leftists and people of color do. A white man would never.
>>585815524if this trend continues im rolling horde wtf
horde will still seethe because they no longer have the pvp racial advantage
>>585815668Any fight that gives you extra usages is relevant.
>>585815668unless the raid fights health is hyper bloated its a placebo
>>585814471After TWW, the next little expansion set is just going to roll into Forever. They will keep the Retail servers active, but they're going to have to cut it eventually. They are telling all new players to just okay Forever. It is their new, forced, flagship game. I think it'll go for a very long time.
>>585815668depends on how much trash between bosses, not for the bosses themselves, no way fights are gonna be 2mins long
>>585815638Undead was number 2 >>585811053 and they just got buffed
is the theoretical dps gains from racials really so important when you lose way more dps from not playing correctly any way?
Faggrend is too fat to handle leadership over forever. Fats have always made the worst leaders. I hope he doesn't fuck this up.
>>585815192He is based and the mom shit is retarded but funny. Asmon knows about it and finds it fun as well how he's making them seethe 24/7.
Give it to me straight once and for all - which is the chud faction and which is the troon faction
>>585815638you are pvp server im assuming? do not come to rppvp
>>585815419The legacy talents are alt-friendly, being able to solo five mobs on a warrior is retardation.
>>585815836in 2026 chuds are rolling alliance and troons are rolling horde because le noble savage
>>5858156681 minute is good enough of a significant change, be it BG's or raids or wpvpbeing able to pop off more frequently is nice
>>585815739If Horde no longer has a PvP advantage it should at least be slightly better in PvE just like Alliance was in OG classic. Instead Alliance is ahead in both
Don't your characters have to have two names now?How unimaginative as a person do you have to be to require paying for name reservation? You're really going to get locked out of your desired name + every surname? You desperately need to be named Hugh Jass like every other unfunny person wants?
>>585815815Parsing is the pve endgameYou will need a good parse score to join any good guild
>>585815362It's so funny. I hope they fuck with racial for a full ass year.
>>585815484>oh you wanted races like Ogres and Furbolgs for the longest time? lolnahSaid no one ever. Stop making up situations.
>>585815707>people of colorwhat colour? brown?
>>585815913>alliance>better in pvekek
>>585815836Horde = chudAlliance = troons and browns
>>585815631
>>585814908we know it wasnt a mistake because a fucking patch hit the client as this went up
>>585815471so a glowie is like "heckin curb stomp nigger babies hell yeah!" while everyone knows its a transvestite.and tranny says various autistic shit while claiming to be a stacy.
only retards care about racials for pveyou're not gonna play perfect like the fucking simulations bro
>>585815941and the theoretical gains from racials is what is gonna decide your parse?
>>585815836barny (the only relevant tranny streamer) is playing undead
>>585815913good, i want to make my horde characters on pvp
>>585815939My desired name is lore appropriate and connected to warcraft characters
Is he right, chudbros?
>>585815939I can't imagine anyone taking my names, but I'm also not taking the chance since I like my names.
>>585815836The faction I play is based.The faction you play is cringe.
>>585816024You don't understand, that 1% will make or break your parse bracket
>>585816071He's always right, unfortunately.
>Three more days of "Woops we forgot this racial change teehee">Streamers suddenly like "Haha yeah guys so I have had a sudden change of hear and im now FOR DA HORDEEEE again just a feeling you know haha"
>>585815341True. Flat chest with nice thighs and ass is peak.
>Talks about their parasocial relationship with some ugly dude all day
>>585815863i dunno what to tell you this isnt classic. it never was it never wil be theyre aiming for zoomer crowds people dont explore people dont wana drop 100 hours to level to 60 im sure if they knew blizz hq would be lit on fire they would of put rdf into it
>>585814908WHY ORCS CRIT IS REMOVED!!t. Mahmood Fatahi
Anon keeps talking abour rolling on the RP server.How safe is it for someone who wants to raid and do BGs?
>>585816071>most average gamer opinion of all timeYeah I'm gonna gift this guy 50 subs
>>585815836Alliance: Racist Trannies. White. Horde: Brown ESLs. Pick your poison.
>>585816071>asmongold says the obvious when everyone has been saying it for yearsbig shook, much bases
>>585816071It's a combination of this and outsourcing to jeet contractors, yeah
>Make emergency chances to Orc racials that were totally planned but missing haha woops haha>Troll is still a 3 minute cooldown for 10 seconds of 10% haste when the bluegers get 2% all the time.
>>585816071Of course. Better ask wokesissies how they're handling the trvth
>>585815836I am a normal guy IRL and will be playing Alliance PvE with wife and Horde PvP on the side.
>>585815508To make sally whitemane plot relevant
>>585816157whitest horde player
>>585816071He's right but he's still a faggot
Wildly unmedicated and un-smooched gigabads screaming about how racials will impact PvP/PvE are the loud MINORITY. I can assure you the majority of the community do not put that much stake into their projected future parses that no one else will ever care or congratulate them for. I implore you to not let the communities untreated ADHD encumber the actual important work that needs to be done. We appreciate and love you guys, and we think you’re doing a great job.
>>585816181no one cries as much as orcoid pissbabies
>>585816181Beast slaying is holding trolls back. It should be a return to form and be based on ranged spec. Call it Keen Eyed, 1% crit chance.
>>585816181Troll buff is coming, trust the plan
>>585816169Leftists cannot admit it without also admitting everything since 2012 being performative. So they will never admit it.
>>585816023Full 99 parsing as a human mage during vanilla classic. Races give fuck all of a bonus.
>>585816265The loud minority is playing the twitter meta and Blizzard is sadly caving in
>>585814908all this effort and faggrend still going to lactate in fit of panic when they see 80% name reserves by alliance characters
>>585815517i have literally no clue about him or his family history and do not care.why are you obsessed with a 40 year old man you hate? why the fuck are you here? shouldnt you be in his discord telling everyone lies about where he touched you at the fan meet up when you were 10?
>>585816071DESU I don't have a problem with girlbosses and even trannies as long as they make them hot.If they're ugly/fat I will despise your game THOUGH
>>585816265racials highly impact pvp, ask any alliance priest or warlockthey have no effect on pve
1 hour left
>>585816163For the same reason you don't want to play PvE and the same reason you don't want to play PvPIs the same reason thousands of people will roll RP.
Orcs and UD were already better than troll and especially tauren. What is Blizzard doing???
Okay chat. What racial changes are they gonna "remember" tomorrow?
>>585816296
>>585816330would've been 100 if you were a gnome
Guys i wanna play the game but i can’t because it’s not out yet
>troons are abundant now>almost all the people who will say they are women will actually be troonswe will no longer be able to have wow gf's bros because of fucking troon deception
are horde still whining? whats the latest cope
>>585816468That's what gets me. Like why the fuck would you buff the races that were already the top 2 of the faction lol.
>>585816492Troll Berserking down to 2 minutes or up to 15/20%. They can't remember which one it is right now.
>>585816553if my gf doesn't have a cute penis i'm not interested
>>585816492Forsaken GODs will get a racial thats a whirlwind with their big cocks
>>585816403and i forgot to add, literally kys glowie tranny.
>>585816553It's also all old trans too. When I was 13, I was able to talk to other 13yo real girls on WoW. A lot of young teens will almost certainly get tricked and groomed by aged trans this time. Kind of funny.
Are any big streamers going on RpPvP? I don’t wanna deal with them
Streamers have locked in on Alliance now, there's no way Blizzard will buff Horde racials anymore
>>585816181Eh, Troll Zerking has always been 3 mins hasn't it? Would rather have beast slaying racial changed since most of its use is just going to be leveling in Durotar and The Barrens. >>585816468Those two are the most played horde races, it's just to placate the people that got REALLY vocal over the last day.
I hope they fuck with balancing the entire time. Meta slaves will be terminally ill online shit flinging like right now. All while they have to level their new meta build to 60 and BiS. Meanwhile I’m selling green crafted gear and doing enchants on my Skyborne Druid giving zero fucks about anything but gold.
Let me off the ride
>>585815362this is why i only pick for aestheticsskelf > everything and then human when not available>but sham-doesn''t exist
>>585816714i dont get how you fall for this shit
>don't care about racials>don't care about minmaxing>don't care about parsing>don't care about trannies>don't care about streamers>WILL enjoy the game in my own way and WILL do all the content and get all the 'cheevos
UNDEAD good now?
>>585816181They will buff tauren and nerf plainsrunning, mark my words.
Post your grind fuel. For me it's sheppy
>>585816169Wrong. Asmon is saying it for years and now he finally moved the needle to where this is the popular thing to say.
>players barely have 5k hp>SWP and DP both crit for around 2kthe tears are going to be insane
>>585816861Lots of FFXIV trans are coming to Forever. I think you underestimate the amount of trans online right now.
>>585816869luckily my dorf shaman is the only possible combo for alli shaman so i dont gotta think a whole lot
>>585816807>skyborne eating nerf after nerfI see how it is, on beta release make them an appealing parser for alliance mages and Druids, then nerf the shit out of them after everyone’s already paid for them
>>585816960kill yourself
>>585816807skyborne REMOVED from raids ahahahaha
>>585816909they'll give them the 1% hit back and plainsrunning to 40% is my guessI still expect ninja buffs on release
>>585816468>>585816584Because theyre retarded. Like sit, think, make a decision that puts them on a somewhat even footing pve & pvp. Like you know everyones going to immediately sim everything so do it yourself, Its not that hard lol
>Tauren resto druid>RP realmset>days off from the 5th to the 9th>gaming fuel ready>blanky ready>cocoa ready>phone and social media deletedYep, It's gaming time.
>>585816909Thats good though
>>585816514I'll take 10% off all the rep grind over a theoretical 100 parse.
>>585816892As good as they'll ever be, 10 seconds would've been the ideal; but 15 is at least workable. It's just too powerful of a racial.
>>585817008YWNBAW
>>585816652know that if given the chance, i'd beat you into a coma with an iron rodtotal faggot death
How does he do it?
>>585816909Remove Plains running, cuck speed runners, replace it with Blessing of the Earthmother. 2% hitchance
I skipped the beta entirelyLooking forward to some night elf rogue dual spec combat/sub just like the good old days
QRD on night elves racials?It looks terrible but everytime I see parseniggers debating racials it is somehow they're the highest dps race
DRUUUUUUUMMMMMMMMPFFF
>>585814471>how the fuck do we know this shit won't die?Learn to read the room, retard. They focus everything on forever atm.
>>585817192by chugging onions every day
>>585817192is this piratesoftware reference
>>585817221on-demand power spikeit's not rocket science
Sir, another racial bypass patchnvke has hit the classic wow subreddit
>>585815668>is a 33% cd reduction any good?That's how retarded you sound like
>>585817192This is not the face of a very smart manProbably a fall guy in case things go south
>>585816023Its not about getting 1% more dmg or whatever. It is about the FEELING of knowing you have that extra 1% in something. Like if you play a chance that wants to crit and you have that 1% in your spellbook, it FEELS good knowing it is there. Or if you're playing a nelf rogue and you want to stack dodge as a meme avoidance build, having that 1% in your spellbook FEELS good.Even if in reality you cant really tell, it could be bugged and not give you the stat, but because it is in the spellbook people FEEL like it's doing something.People who doesnt understand what I am talking about have been buckbroken by metaslavery and can no longer FEEL enjoyment from a silly little number in their spellbook. It is all about math, calculations and the cold hard reality.
>>585817008Not until the day my king goes to the other side
Can’t wait for my ignore list to be full by level 8
>>585816403>why are you obsessedProjection because you're a parasocial fanboyExploding mom jokes are funny. Last time I watched him was when he ragequit retail because he couldn't clear a normal difficulty raid in Shadowlands.
>>585817250>They focus everything on forever atm.Lol they didn't even give them a budget for a new race so we get blue reskins with shared faction and a ton of recycled assets from other expansions instead of anything new
Hydra said do not go human priest its bad
Any of the PVP guilds need a feral druid for raid?
>"We’ve updated the previous post in this thread with some additions that were intended to be listed."Do people unironically believe the orc and ud changes were "forgotten" from yesterdays changes.
please nerf night elves. i dont want to be surrounded by min maxxer queers. go back to horde
How many more kneejerk horde buffs before the streamers suddenly have a revelation and change of heart and go back to horde?
I hate Kosak, Danuser and Afrasiabi
>>585817413>8you mean 1.3
>>585817409Every time I crit I yell out DAS DAT HUMAN RACIAL BOIIIIIIIIIII but my family is getting tired of it
>>585817486All the people who would have played Orc will play Nelf now SORRY LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!! ZUG ZUG I mean For Elune!
>>585817302But blood fury, berserking and eureka look much better and come with a better kit
>>585817454Gnome is better no ? Since human racial shares CD with trinket
>>585817489Have any announced that after the buffs?
>>585817169try me
>>58581722110% flat crit chance is pretty substantial, especially when paired with other buffs. That 15 second duration isn't anything to scoff at either. NE druids and rogues opening on people is actually gonna be really strong.
>>585817606Might not be enough yet. Wait a few more days for the remaining racial changes to be remembered by the devs suddenly.
>hey buy our blue elves>gives them the worst racial ever
how many hours yall finna be goin on launch? i think i can get to level 20 in a sesh in an ideal world, but 15 is probably sufficient
>>585816330Were you in a parse guild?
>>585817428
>>585817464Spoiler: whenever they said that poor class performance wass caused by a bug it also wasn't true, they just fucked up at balancing
EU Bros? We won. We get a 3h lead for the name reservation <3
>>585816962What about Warlock dots will they melt aswell ?
>play horde pvp to gank streamers and their orbiters and win every bg>or go alliance and get to join more community events, tourneys, and have op racials
>>585817671also stronger stealth for pvp is nice, considering High Risk exists
>>58581759310% crit strike chance is way stronger than 10% raw damage at endgame. And most encounters will be 2-3 minutes anyway.
>>585817486Idk what the nelf racial even is I just like night elves they look cool
>>585817772Retard or bait?
>>585817353It requires at least 2.2 minute fight for make any difference. Sure we can assume some fights are that "long" but if they are rare, it would make a 0% difference.
>>585817464Yea theres never been a kneejerk patch from any of these game dev companies its just “ooops we forgot”, yea right lmao.
Yes, I’m trans, and yes I’m a healer. Better to get comfortable with the following facts:>You WILL join voice>You WILL listen to me flirt with my boyfriend, the RL MT>You WILL respect my pronouns>You WILL keep your stupid trump brainrot to yourselfOr you’ll get kicked. And you will never get your precious purple dagger of +3% DPS. So make peace with it now, Panchito.
so blizz knows i botted the collecters edition but its not shipping till februrary. Do i get to name rez? anyone know?
>>585817413>log in>before I even start fucking with a UI I've left /1, blocked guild invites, and notified the authorities about 7 people plotting to overthrow canada.
>>585817689Way more people would complain if the elves were P2W
>>585817782go alliance so i can make horde characters
>>585817689It was the best pve for a min. Might still be but we dont know where laylines will be right?
>>585817671>pop crit buff>sitting at 75% crit>sniper shot with aimed shotany clothie is gonna explode
>>585817602>human racial shares CD with trinketIs this actually confirmed ?
>>585817873check bnet and see if you have the friend codes
>>585817192Lots of food and no exrecise.
>>585816454>psychic scream UD rogue>wotf, crippling poison is already on you, crawl 2 ft away and the rogue is already back on you fucking your shit upREEEEEE
>>585813340RP pvp
>>585817912Read the new patch notes all Leyline effects are cancelled the moment you enter a raid.
>>585817942i have them frendo
>dorf hunter engineer>skelf mage tailor/enchanter>human paladin ???>tauren druid>tauren shaman>dorf shaman?>nelf druid?No idea what to play
>>585817454dont care going female human
>>585817837>Retard or bait?It's official, you can calculate all the dates + time for your local time. EU is first, NA is 3hrs after.>https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/article/24303866/claim-your-world-of-warcraft-forever-character-names
>>585817782>tourneysArnt the tourneys going to be on horde since tipsout likes noshoes?
>>585818034should be good then
Yes Im trans but I dont really see what that has to do with anything?
orcs cant crit
Is it true Skyborne speak Darnassian?Going to be pretty kino if I can tell off the blue freaks I gank.
>>585817987>alliance warlock>alliance priest>horde rogue
My name will be the name I always pick with some generic last name like "Wowforever"
Are they actually removing wotlk abilities? Is there hope ele chads?
>>585817710Yes, On Arugal too.
>>585818076hell yea brother
>>585817464No, but it's funny they really tried this angle.
>>585818019Yeah I read it but seems vague, like are they just removed when you enter and there is laylines in raids that you can use?
imagine being the wow forum janny where your boss is clearly retarded and you try to run damage control for him as he keeps fucking it up even more
>>585817671missed the whopping 15sec duration, I guess that's what settles it
>>585818119It's just UD. The other horde races are fine for priest and warlock. And at least warlock can fear again, priest has to wait long while.
AGGREND PEOPLE REMEMBERED YOU SAID ROGUES WOULD BE TOP DPS AND THEY HAVEN'T BEEN TOUCHED SINCE DAY 1 OF THE BETAAH FUCK UHHHHH MAKE SOME MORE RACIAL CHANGES AND SAY WE FORGOT TO LIST THEM, THAT SHOULD BUY US ENOUGH TIME UNTIL THE NAME RESERVATION POSTS DROWN IT OUT AGAIN
>anime opening playlist ready>stocked up on monster>bought some pizza rollsFUCK I CAN'T FUCKING WAIT
>>585818059Nope that was just betaEvery streamer is rolling Alliance so they can schedule events togetherAlthough I have a feeling they’re all going to quit and join Soda’s gay onlyfangs guild on Hardcore server in a few months. Another reason I’m considering Horde pvp
>What makes the average man forget all the wrong Blizzard has done?
>>585817987Crippling & hamstring are fucking retarded that they dont have a cd period.There I said it.
Worst thing they could possibly do is listen to people who go to the wow forums.
>>585818089Yes, did you not play the beta?
>>585818208Kind of kino if, in some raids, leylines and elemental convergences are present only on some bosses. Otherwise, I'm fine with just having haste. I am simply better than other people so I will still do better.
>>585818296i will never invite a rogue to my dungeons out of principle nor a huntard its never worth the risk
>>585817428>"chat gpt what is an epic comeback">chatgpt: say he is projecting and reference more assmongoloid lore nobody except his dedicated fan/buttboislaves know abouti repeat glowie/tranny, kys
>>585817987>confiunding flash>mind controlNot my problem.
>>585818119Being an alliance warlock isn't so bad because humans are so strong in Forever. Being a horde rogue and caring about PvP has got to be miserable though.
>>585818119The warlock should be fine, the priest is lol, lmao though.>>585818282Vast majority of horde rogues lean into UD though. I'd go troll rogue if regen could be used while stealthed, that'd be funny.
>>585811053Only thirdie mudhutters care about muh racials.
If I was in Aggrend's position I would make a reddit post making it extremely clear that I did not care abou their opinions or complaints, and that they were welcome to rim my asshole if they didn't like it. Then I would immediately revert the rage normalization changes and watch them all seethe.
>>585818089yea, different faction blue elves can talk with each other
Bros, just to confirm: I'm from EU and I can login for the name reservation in ~40min. how about you and which zone? (EU/NA/ASIA etc)
>dark inspiration added>humans now have 10% spirit>holy shit dungeon runs are going to be so much easierVamspirit build0/31/20This is a dungeon focused Holy Priest build around maximizing your Spirit, mana regen, and adding a little damage to the party. >With Dark Inspiration, your party gets up to 15% MORE SPIRIT FOR 10S after a full mind flay or Mind Blast.>Spirit Tap gives you 100% MORE SPIRIT AND 50% MANA REGEN IN COMBAT if you get the killing blow or if they're afflicted by vampiric embrace.You are now maxing out your mana regen and healing power by vampiric embracing at least one mob a fight and throwing out a Mind Flay or Mindblast. I grabbed Imp. SW Pain, Mind Flay, Imp Mind Flay but I'll you can just go Mind Blast instead if you prefer just doing the Mind Blast/Vampiric Embrace. idk why you would go imp mindflay and hit but maybe the numbers work out.:Imp SW:Pain/ Imp. Mindflayhttps://talentsforever.com/priest/60/-03505103030101531-00552001241-lmqrnstUWZXTdbfg4hgi-8?b=70630&d=2610275% hit/imp mind blasthttps://talentsforever.com/priest/60/-03505103030101531-50550000041-lmUWZXTdbfg4hgijst-8?b=70630&d=261027hit/imp mindflayhttps://talentsforever.com/priest/60/-03505103030101531-50502001241-UWZXTdbfg4hgiljqrsnt-8?b=70630&d=261027NOTE: IF YOU DO NOT HAVE VAMPIRIC EMBRACE ON THE TARGET, YOU HAVE TO DELIVER THE KILLING BLOW TO GET SPIRIT TAP.
>>585818089Yup, both Alliance and Horde versions
>>585818412but huntard is my go to fantasy fulfillment solo alt when the gf is not around, you can't just ignore me, anon
>>585818345Nostalgia and wishing I had more time with my father. We played Vanilla through Wrath.
>>585818465UD is just a super cool rogue, like orcs look retarded as rogue.
>>585818512>4/5 on the buffthink again heal boy
>>585818148I don’t want them to be remove LB but I think it should either not be a capstone or be baseline for shaman trainable at level 30 or whatever. Chain lightning should be made useful again as its current state is sad. Mages view Ele as a free HK as long as everything they can do is in 1 school of magic. They do need access to a second for PvP.
>friends list is tied to bnet account so you can't play your alts without showing as onlinegrim
>>585816109What about the 10% you lose from being a shitter? How does that affect your parse?
>>585818056different megaservers, who cares
>Undead is bis nowMake up your minds
So instead of human females being the face of tryhard minmaxxies it's gonna be Nelfs now
best class to play as a passing transwoman (hrt at 14)?
This is the most blatant case of fraudulent advertising since my suit against the game World of Warcraft Forever
>>585818345To be fair, if you really think about it; we're just as much to blame as they are.
>between orc axe spec, human sword spec, and dwarf mace spec a total of 4 race/class combos could not use these racials>the newly re-added orc command racial cannot be used by 4 classes>a racial from ONE race cannot be used just as much as 3 specialized racials split between races
>>585812398If it was anything else than m*o this would be ok.
>>585818512Thats cool lil gup, we’re still gonna only take the meta specs, you can come to the fun Saturday drunk raid.
>>585818614Okay, if you don't get Vampiric Embrace, you would have to drop prayer of mending to get 3% spirit for the party. Maybe it is worth it, I didn't think so.
>>585818512>a build centered on actually getting the killing blow in a group>so you can clear trash fasterI dunno bro just use regular shadow for questing and use regular disc / holy for healing.
>>585818635The ingame friendlist is removed entirely? I thought it just wasn't enabled in beta.
>>585818737skelf druid
>>585818089yes the alliance skelves remember how to speak darnassian but forgot how to drop totem
>>585818089I was able totally some on the PVE servers, however idk on the pvp servers they either don't talk while getting killed or they can't.
post your gamerfuel for launch
>>585818502Ya yuro in 35m na in 3h35m
>>585818635blud..
>>585818737Human female priest or mage
forever doesn't sound like a warcraft wordWorld of Warcraft: Eternal would have been better
>>585818750>THIS IS A DUNGEON BUILDYour guild was never clearing retard>>585818767READ YOU FUCKING IDIOT IF YOU HAVE VAMPIRIC EMBRACE YOU GET THE SPIRITHOLY FUCK DUDE
>>585814639I'm still torn between dwarf warrior or dwarf paladin.
>>585818472Blizzard is much like Gamefreak with Pokemon. They could actually do that and face zero repercussions. They have such a large consumer base of addicted millennials that they can literally ship anything and make profit. It does not matter what they do, they will buy it.
>>585818696Hard to call them minmaxxers when they're picking from 2 of the best looking races.Anyone who rolls an Orc is a minmaxer. Anyone who rolls human is normal.
>>585818512Yeah, but you have to play Priest and they're really lame.
>>585818635>log on your main, we need you for raid
>>585818773it was working in the stress test when I played with friends, idk about beta, I never touched it
>>585818612Can't really deny that. I like the Troll stealth animations, but the vanilla/classic movement speed when stealthed just feels worse the larger your model is, so undead help curb that a bit besides just generally being thematically great for rogue.
Alright we need to start posting the troon hanging OP again. Way too many troons feeling comfortable in here now. You will never be a woman, just a man with a mutilated penis.
>>585818737Skelf Druid/Shaman
>>585818174Is it possible to get 90 in a pug?
>>585818737
>>585813190>playing as thirdiesnah
>they do an emergency racial patch>tauren still don't have a dps racial
>>585818795High Order don't like shaman.
>>585818512kek
>>585815224Please don't do it, not one like that
>>585818465My first char will be a priest, but my second will likely be a troll rogue and I will stack spirit for increased passive regen, if I make a warrior it will be troll too for the passive regen. They both get more health regen from spirit, warrior more than rogue.
>>585818618If you want chain ligfhtning to be useful then lava burst needs to be removed and the damage and rotational focus put back on chain lightning so that it works single target and cleave.
>horde cry like bitches across wowhead, the forums and reddit again (again)>get a last minute slight buff>everywhere they're whining that its still enough and alliance racials need another nerfholy shit these niggers wont be happy until they're as blatantly OP as vanilla with 25% stun resist and 5s fear immunityit's gonna feel so good ganking these dindus knowing what scum they are
>>585819026FUCK ELEMENTS, ARCANE RULES. Fireball fireball fireball Flamestrike INFERNNOOOO DDOOOOOOOM
>>585819009>UHG FINE! YOU WIN!>we will reduce the cd of cultivation and nerf plainsrunning>THERE YOU HAPPY NOW?!Cant wait for their retarded response honestly.
Hey guys what names are you gonna try and reserve?
>>585815365That's the same year India becomes a superpower
… what’s a good argument to convince my group to roll RP rather than PvE….
>>585819210Christian Chandler
>humans get their stun removal racial from retail>gnomes get their +5% resource racial from retail>orcs get their -20% stun duration from retail>undead get touch of the grave from retailBut dwarf and tauren are simply not allowed to have their +2% crit dmg from retail????
>>585819009bro you can go 60 speed though>unless youre on a pvp realm lol moonfire haha
WHO CARES IF THEY MAKE THE GAME GOOD BY CHANGING RACIALS YOU'RE STILL GOING TO CRUSADE AND DEDICATE EVERY WAKING SECOND OF YOUR LIFE TO MAKING THE GAME AS SHITTY AS IT CAN BE AT EACH AND EVERY TURN POSSIBLE
What happens if a random stranger trades me gold and I accept??
>>585818512hey can you swap to a real spec? you can do your funny meme build on your own time haha
>>585819130Horde will absolutely own PVP servers you dumb bitch. Your big chud champion already rolled PVE because he knew what was coming for him
I dont see why they changed LOS rules for arcane missiles. Moving out of sight should fuck it.
>>585818954
>>585819078>you have to worthless in PvP But why…other spell casters dont have this issue? The only caster who can be locked out of their entire kit (even totems) is Elemental shaman. It’s bad design and if you want that you’re not an experienced Elemental player(probably an alliance rolling one for the first time)
>>585819330
since skyborne can't be priestsnight elf or human for a priest healslut?
>>585819330banned for rmt
>>585819210Hugh Jass
>>585819210LunaLilithYukiReiAliceArisu
>>585819285that's kind of the objective of a pvp server, to make everyone involved as miserable as you can
>We want some races to be better at certain combat rolesOkay so give Gnomes the intellect racial back
>>585819285>YOU'RE STILL GOING TO CRUSADE AND DEDICATE EVERY WAKING SECOND OF YOUR LIFE TO MAKING THE GAME AS SHITTY AS IT CAN BE AT EACH AND EVERY TURN POSSIBLEAre you talking to Blizzard here?
>>585819210Why would you pay for name reservation? Unique names are going to have thousands of combinations with last names, unless you want some meme-stupid shit name.
>>585819281unless you are on a pvp realm, or doing a dungeon, or a raid, or a battleground, or not traveling a long distance, or holding still for 5 seconds, or....
>>585819353This isn't 2019 lil gup. Alliance has better pvp racials. Sweaty minmaxers are abandoning horde en masse. Even the recent buff today only helps them parse slightly better, wont matter for pvp.
>>585819210I won't tell :3
Why is europoor first with the fucking name reservation?
>>585819210Nate Higgers, human hunter
>>585818696it hasnt been minmaxxers since noste, in 19 ppl had figured out gnome racial was op. but it was a funny vibe, where the elite clique resembled the cast of mean girls,"eww is that a dwarf, a gnome?!", all because of female model getting through a wsg fence...
>>585818635not true i have a fren added and the messages even showed up in that teal color and he's not showing up here :(he only showed up with "O" in game
Is 15% spirit for 15 seconds even worth bringing a SP for when druid gets 400% spirit for the 20 seconds?
>>585819447just dont do those things. for the horde!
>>585819467people don't care about thatmost go horde in classic for the underdog sentiment
>>585819443Im paying for the gay elvesIm using the name reservation to make my characters ready for the launch
>>585810951>Undead Paladin on regular PvP server>Human Warrior on RP-PvP serverYup, its gaming time.
>>585818440>flash breaks from your dot>gouges MCHeh nothin' personell kid.Though you just made me realize mind control has some great potential. I'm duoing as a paladin with a priest, he can MC a rogue or whatever class then I can heal the priest or set up a hammer of justice burst while walking the enemy away from the priest or even walking the enemy to me if they're kiting.
>>585819443i want some meme stupid shit
>>585819536Maybe for a 40man where you have the extra slots. If Spriest is getting brought it's gonna be for vampiric embrace healing.
>>585819415Only the employees with Teemu genitalia
>>585819562Cope. People went horde because it was the pvp faction, and alliance was the pve faction. Every pvp guide on warcraft tavern, wowhead and icy veins told people to pick horde races.
>>585818969Not if the strats the team is using are trash, which play a far greater than racials ever do.
>>585817704Like 10 hours in day 1 maybe?
what will be the first furry race the add?
>>585819210Nicholas Gurr
they should of just made all racials flavor stuff instead of the 1% hit or crit shittryhard min/max faggots ruin everything
>>585818512no meditation lmaour party dont need spirit in dungeons lmao
holy fuck it’s been 24 hours stop crying about the fucking racials, you are parsing 60 percentiles and in the bottom half of the dmg meter, it does NOT make a difference for you
>blood fury back to 2 minutesWarlockCHADS can't stop winning
>>585819467Oh no! One thing to consider though is that the alliance is extremely homosexual and no self respecting gamer rolled on alliance in the first placeWe will go where we always have played, thats the horde, and we will corpsecamp you for days. Don't roll on a PVP server if you're an alliancetroon is my advice
>>585819623What's more required disc/holy priest or resto druid. I refused to play dwarf l shaman.
azeroth survivors makes me wish totems weren't useless because its actually fun as fuck
>>585818089I would shit talk other races all the time with cross faction elves. I would constantly call orcs sub human mud hutters, undead for smelling like a sewer, taurens being earth niggers, troll noshoes and dwarves being pedophiles because they live in a city with small childlike people (gnomes). Yes, I was RPing as a racist Skyborne.
>>585819701orc hunters and locks are gonna fucking PVMP
>have perfect female priest name>don't want to be referred to as a female in groupsBros.... what do I do?
>>585819210ben dovereileen dover
So after the dust has settled. How exactly has all of these changes to the racials actually made the situation any different than if they had not touched them at all?
>>585819701Typically you just macro blood fury alongside your class big cd which are almost all 3min. Lock doesn't have this so it going back down to 2min is an actual buff lol.
Do you need an active subscription to do name reservation? Not paying these nogs a week early for a name.
>>585819768If you're night elf or undead you get a pass because those models rock. Melee undead female does literal backflips for crits
>>585819638Vulpera
calm down alliancesissy your racials are still best
So can any PvP sweat tell me the reality of Tauren Plainsrunning and hunters? I'm reading complete polar opposite opinions of it's shit or broken af in world pvp.
>>585818232You noticed that tooThere seems to be a schism between the Devs and the Advertising DeptThey better fire all the whites and only hire brown and black trannies to fix this
>>585819768my name backwards happened to be a womans name in eastern europe
>>585819715t. farmbait for ally premades
>>585817463yes as long as you battlerez (me)
>>585819443All the good players use meme names, only nerds use loreslop
doesnt matter, sitll rolling skelf warrior, gnome warlock, and dorf shaman
>>585819338>confirmed shitter>>585819671READ BITCHHoly fuck I didn't realize how dumb /wowf/ posters are LOL
>>585819447>>585819541bruh, its essentially Barrens: The Racial, massive QoL for speedsters and everyone interested in not taking forever to level
>>585819876if you get touched it loses stacks idk if its all of a few so its gonna be shit
>>585819724Everyone will want disc priest for PI
>>585819382NEs have the better unique priest spell
>>585819904I didn’t see a fagborn Warrior once in beta. What the fuck was wrong with my layers?
>>585819928>everyone interested in not taking forever to levelBut the game is literally called Forever(tm). Isnt that the point?
>>585819885premades in bgs only fight other premades apparantly
t - 3h 20mins
>Orcs gets their undeserved nerf SLIGHTLY fixed>4chans /wowfaggots/ lose their mind and start crying uncontrollablywhy do hordechads trigger the 4chudcels so hard?
>>585819861Nah it'll be a human>>585819882Oh I guess this was a bit ambiguous. I meant I have thought up a name for a female priest that I am 100% satisfied with but don't want other people in raids and stuff to call me by my in-game name because that would feel weird
>>585819590Shadow word pain ticks every 3 seconds little gup, you are getting mind controlled somewhere fun
>>585819885>the premade cope There it is! I knew it was coming. I'm sure alliance has plenty of premades that can do decentlyMeanwhile your entire faction is getting raped in the open world because alliance players on average are just really shit and cant put up a fight. I'm sorry you had to hear it this way
>>585820139link to posts that are crying about it?
>>585819794The game greatly favors Alliance instead of slightly favoring Horde. Yes, this is what the alliance crybabies have wanted all along. Funny thing is…vanilla racials are better.
>>585819630Assuming your pug is average or maybe even a little better than that what is a realistic parse that someone should be capable of?
>>585819876It's garbage in real pvp. It takes 2.5min of straight running to fully stack and falls off the moment you take damage. In extremely rare scenarios you could hypothetically jump someone as a tauren hunter and have really good kiting, but a hunter jumping someone who can't reach them would already have been a pvp win regardless.
The fact that str*amers are going Alliance tells you all you need to know.Horde is the right faction.
>>585820072if that was the case levels wouldnt be capped and you wouldnt gain stats past 60
So who came out ahead after this last patch, Alliance or Horde?
>>585820139all i see is horde tears, including your cope post.orcs cant crit
>Meanwhile your entire faction is getting raped in the open world because alliance players on average are just really shit and cant put up a fight. I'm sorry you had to hear it this wayok how come everyone had the opposite experience in the beta then?lil gup still living in 2019 where horde had the OP racials lmao
>>585820253Streamniggers are mostly going Horde
>premade groups will be matched with premade groups in pvpNoskill chuds are FUCKED.
>>585820272made to be ORC'D
Something like this for Shaman levelling?With Anticipation possibly ignored or respecced anyways at 60
>>585820272Whoever wins, taurens still lose.
>>585819882Ok Ahsatan
>>585820253>streamer faction popular >streamers quit>faction diesevery time
I think the new racials are fine :)>>585820367
NO-ONE STEAL MY NAMESTHEY ARE VERY ORIGINAL AND FUNNY
HOW MANY PANIC ATTACKS AND MASS DILATION COPE SESHS HAS DROPPING TWO RACIAL PATCH NUKES 24 HOURS BEFORE NAME RESERVATIONS START CAUSED
I want to try priest but I play horde. Troll or undead?
dwarfs got a very undeserved buff
>>585820272alliance are still slightly better for pvealliance still much better for pvp
>>585820367>taurens still loseJust give them 1% hit back like dwarves have, is it that difficult?
>>585819210the game
what if they accidentally forget to disable the play button and we get to login
>>585820261They should uncap levels but any level after 60 just gives like 10 HP/MP and the EXP required doubles each level. So theoretically someone could get like level 100 and have like 400 more HP, but it would be across the entire lifespan of the game.
>>585820414t. Nate Higgers
>>585820458Human Priest for PvP is fine?
>>585820329Don't lie
>>585820564human priest is better than any horde priest yes but gnome and night elf are still better than humanyou see how OP ally racials are for pvp
>>585820558DO NOT
>>585819261
>>585820139Thats pretty ironic dont you think?>Horde has better racials than alliance for 20 years in everything past vanilla>We get vanilla+>Suddenly horde want better racials in that too
>>585820439Troll is unique, not many of them. Undead look better to most people. Undead have the better PvP racial.
>>585819924yea vampiric embrace is a 30 sec cd its going to be awful to use in dungeons and u are not going to get any mana regen while in combat vs any bosses LMAO imagine if its a challenging long lasting boss hahanice improved mindblast though haha totally worth the 5 points
>>585820564overrated
>>585820564Literally every race class combo is fine for pvp is fucking classicNobody here is winning a 100k dueling tournament theyre just gonna be flailing around in wsg
Do we know if the human and UD racials share a cooldown with the PvP trinket?
>>585820564There isnt a single bad Priest choice on Alliance and mages too. Alliance really is the caster faction except for maybe demo lock.
Is WoTF also a 1.5sec GCD?
Trolls need a more flavorful BEZERKING racial now and then I would be confident to say things are look better
How are warriors for pvp?I want to make a sky elf but I hate the mount
so they're really just gonna send it with these dogshit racials in 3 hours? this is really it? yikes
>allycucks assmongoloid fanboys thinking them having a 0,05% superiority in racials will suddenly make them the dominant faction on PvP serversHAHAHAHAHAHAHAVE YOU EVER EVEN PLAYED THIS GAME
So boys what nameas we all using, post them here ;)
convince me to not play a male nelf priest
I cant wait to play dungeons with my new fun having friends in <FUN HAVERS> :)
>>585820789If only Trolls were that muscular in game instead of the lanklets they are
>>585815224Literally the hottest thing I've seen all weekLight bless
>>585820564human priest is the worst priest on alliance side for pvp
>>585819924>>585818512>waste half your talent points going into shadow>use mana and a gcd to put vampiric embrace up on every add>then when one of those adds dies you get meditation for 15s>vampiric embrace cooldown is 30s so literally impossible to keep up at all times>also if a fight has no adds you just don't get any manaSo you would rather go through ALL THAT instead of just putting your talent points into the correct tree and getting meditation, the talent that makes your entire fucking class function?
>>585820806warriors are the most gear dependent class in the game, so while leveling you will lose most 1v1s, unless you level slowly, get yourself geared in dungeons and have pots/engi items. at 60 once geared you're the strongest pvp class provided you've got a healer
>Give Taurens Reprisal>1% of damage taken is dealt back to an enemy, this damage cannot be reduced
>>585818307Kys mushoku tensei is the worst anime to ever be made and you weebs are a blight
Eu pvp horde will be locked in 2 mins
>>585820351>Maelstrom Weapon>Spending 5 points so you can do a less than auto attack lightning bolt for free every 25 seconds
>>585820849no one good at the game obsesses over racials
>>585820367That's tauren, not taurens.
>>585813654He had friends until the end of high school and then everybody either went to college or got a job.
>>585820973You mean Alliance
>>585820958they just changed troll berserking as well>Berserking duration increased to 15 seconds (was 10 seconds).
>>585820973bro nobody is going horde on pvp in any region lmao
so what are we thinking is the meta to get in first? stare at the launcher, switch between games, restart battle.net over and over?
Not trolling but every single one of my latam friends are going Horde. They’re chuds though, if it makes you feel better.
>>585820935its for BG purposes, again, mostly for the mount, ill be playing with a few friends
>>585820849>horde pvp racial dominance obliterated>hordesissies screaming into the void to try and copeyou love to see it
>>585821084nah horde trannies are obsessed with playing horde as if it's their only personality trait, it will be locked as soon as the system kicks in
>>585814009The Tauren in front of you helps cut air resistance. Lore accurate.
>>585820958Jobless Reincarnation is objectively an extremely good anime.
>>585820973>>585821105every balkangroid is going horde pvp
>have to pay the sky elf tax for name resim good cuh
>>585821084>>585821105first time?
>>585821160>>hordesissies screaming into the void to try and copeit's either that or return to the good ol' trusty cuck and gay porn spam for orcfags
>>585821257larp
>>585820495Apparently.>but aggrend~sama, dont you think the unwashed masses will notice we took taurens racial and just gave it to dwarf?!
>>585818737That's legal?
>>585821195it's not really a name reservation so much as it is a faction reservation. good luck playing alliance if you didn't pay up.
>>585820919He thinks he needs to be a 'support'. In reality if you wanna be a support in dungeons as priest you'd just do disc+shadow for that talent.https://www.wowhead.com/forever/talent-calc/priest/v2023035031330011501--5055000005_t0/0BFEjMKrqHsss2caaaaccccaDK0cccssv
When does res open up?
>>585821105either stupid or never played eu pvpthe largest eu server is always horde dominated in classic
>>585821257first time checking out wow forever?you might want to look at the new alliance racialshappy to help friend :)
>>585820994>maelstrom weapon is badNo one here plays shamans
every opinion in this gen is fucking retarded
5 minutes
horde will be locked because of all the secondaries who don't even know what a racial is rolling undead ret pallys lol
>>585821393>everyone is retarded except me
I scheduled work off for the launch.. I'm going to order a 'za in the morning and eat it throughout the day and also have enough zyn to speedrun for 20 hours straight. I'm even considering getting some adderall. Speedrun bros we're almost home.
>>585821415>eukiddy pool server
>>585821376first time playing wow?
>>585821369check classic era on ironforge
>touch of the grave 15 sec ICDwow HUUUUUUUGE buff just WOW>let's add this ability to Forever that we never managed to balance in retail so we decided to just make it dogshit and move on, that's a good idea
>>585815836
>>585821482we own you amerimutt
>people suddenly forgetting UD paladinsHorde is going to be giga large
What do I use as a last name.
>>585821439Forsaken is meta tho
>>585821415lol nobody plays on eu servers, even eu people play on na servers
>>585821482>brown is angrygood
>>585816071Imo games fail because it’s all the same writing and artstyle so every single game just feels like a copy of what you already played
>>585821369We have forced faction balance and realmless now. a random faction won't overtake a server 99/1 anymore. People are going with whatever has better racials, which will be Alliance.
>>585821498https://forevertalents.up.railway.apphere you go little bro, can see the racial changes there :)
>>585821551Pidor
Regardless of balance I will still be maining Tauren cause cowladies make my peepee hard
>>5858213572 minutes
Tauren running together should give movement You’re a Tauren, I’m a Tauren, we should run together in a herd and gain movement speed based on other Tauren near us.Would make open world exploration so fun.Also allow gnomes to mount Taurens as a vehicle for the meme
>>585821512>let's cherry pick dead serversok now check tbc eu pvp
>>585821551ForeverForeverpvpWarcraftHope this helps.
Gnome shamans when?
Asmongold and Olympus going Horde now
>>585821529>euros owning anythinglol lmao.
>got Arthas Menethil on eu pvpdamn thought the bots would be faster, see ya losers
>>585821439Nobody gives a fuck about racials. Horde will be locked on all PVP servers because its more popular among serious players and its what we've always been playing, its where we know how to quest and progressAlliance or not playing the game at all? I'd rather not play
Alright guys where is everyone going?>Horde PVP>Ally RPPVP
>>585821513The retail version also has a huge icd and is one of the worst dps passive racials in the game.
>>585821369>another time traveler from 2019lol these lil gups are in for a rude awakening>NOOOO HORDE BROS WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE DOMINANT AHHHHHHH
They should have added avengers shield for paladins
>PROUD, Orc Shaman>Troll SPriestHow fucked am I
>>585820351thinking about going something like this if maelstrom is as bad a proc chance as I think it is
>>585821174Its retarded as shit and I hate it and every anime ever made
>>585821580seethe harder murrican, nobody wants to deal with you lol
Um hello Mr Blizzard?
>got Sneedn Feedsee you at launch
>>585821587racials are nonfactor compared to paladin vs shamanhorde is the underdog faction and will always be more populated in a classic setting
>>585811053how the fuck are Tauren -0.12% vs NO racials. Is this simulating using tauren stomp on cooldown for no reason?
Yo how can I get in nowe?
>>585820185>somewhere funuwu then I can do naughty things to that little gnome
>>585821694>Horde will be locked on all PVP servers because its more popular among serious playerslil bro been sleeping the past month lolall sweaty pvp guilds going alliance
>login queues for name reservationsgrim
>>585821708Same
>login queue>no realmsbruh
>>585821780jokes on you im gmt+1
>>585821761You want to max out the dodge talent for leveling for less damage taken and stormstrike resets
>>585821717Now go back and look how many world bosses alliance had on Gehennas, LMAOApes straight up quit because they got fucked so hard due to horde pop
>>585820902Wait until they add Amani Trolls in Forever.
>servers not availablealready fucking crashing the servers for name reservesI thought EU was dead? amerimutts?
>>585821812tauren are worse than the median for agi classes because they have the lowest base agi
>>585821858>>585821876>>585821853wait for the streamers to reserve their names first, plebs
>>585821849Name one
I bought the heroic editionuhm...?
Um?
> login queue for name reservation nov 4 is gonna be a shitshow isnt it
I'm kinda depressed that they gutted Protection Paladin so hard since the start of the beta. Nothing about the talent tree is good and they've only nerfed scaling and numbers with no compensation. Also taunt tied to Judgement sucks fucking donkey dick
I pre purchased the big edition on EU but I don't even get the option to launch
>>585821665I was going to go Wowforever..
>>585821959launch from game folder
>>585821961How are you logging in when I just see you have pre installed and play is unclickable
wow
>>585821812It includes their base stats for each class they can play and tauren have bad agi which pulls them (slightly) down.
>>585821904oh dang I thought it was just parry I cannot read these slight talent changes some reason
>>585820935the deal, with warrior is, you got a fatal weakness, slows and roots simply counter your class.but once you hit 36 you actually have a awesome damage output with whirlwind, so if you can avoid getting kited with grenades or FAp you do have a very good chance to kill just about everyone you meet.
progress....
AGGREND
>>585821761Maelstrom procs a lot.It's a good talent
>>585822028
>>585821651Funny enough a cool racial they could have given Tauren:>Herd Mentality: Movement speed of party members within 10y cannot be lower than the Tauren.In PvP you'd be forced to snare the Tauren. Any speed increases the Tauren gets their allies get.
>>585822020i saw button switch to "play" on my launcher and clicked ithave you even preordered ?
>>585821812
bro
>>585822012Naruhodo, but seems servers themselves are still down so I won't brick myself, yet...
Are you retards really spamming login just for a name reservation
TROLL RACIAL DURATION INCREASED FROM 10 TO 15 SECONDS.
>>585821962I'm really worried about prot because on paper it looks dogshit but all it takes is wacky itemization and it turns out they have five weapons and trinkets that give out 800 holy damage or some shit.
>>585821789this, horde is the exact fake underdog-but-not-really thing normgroids crave
>>585822154>>585822154>>585822154
>>585821761stormstrike adds 20% to your next lightning bolt i reckon its pretty strong and its free seems worth over meme talents like call of flame and clearcasting
>>585822047>>585822053>>585822101WHERE IS RP-PVP RULESETTHEY SAID IT WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR NAME RESERVATION
>>585821921Mental.Who cares whether racials are +/- 2% damage on certain classes. You'll never accomplish real parity between them. If one race is even 0.02% better than other races in theory, parsetrannies will flock to it no matter what. Meanwhile, removing every bit of halfway flavourful racials makes the game overall worse for everyone else. There is no winning move here as soon as you engage with that crowd.
Uhm...Where is RPPvP?
>>585821959Forever already EoS'd, the game was THAT bad.
>>585822129yeah im selling the name asmongold for two thousand dollar on ebay
>>585821478I'm going to hit Costco and load my freezer with air fryer bullshit
>>585822129the amount of fomo fotm players that wont be here when gta releases will make peoples heads spin
>>585822095>lowest agility>has highest movement speed in game??????
I thought the name res was still 3 hours away
>>585822269It is. Anons are retarded (myself included)
>>585822269it's supposed to be turned on for eu (doesn't work, sasuga blizz)
>>585822267i feel bad for the tauren with ED
>>585822230no overlap
>>585822269For EU it's now
>>585821769>I'm a seething pissbabyOk.
>>585818865I would go dwarf warrior and human paladinStoneform is redundant for paladins (cleanse, freedom) while stun removal and stealth detection are both good
EU servers have shat themselv, authenticator doesn’t load, nothing works
>>585821335It never happens and it’s good that it happens chud
>>585822074Amonmaxxing
>>585819009>give taurens 1% hit as a token for not having a dps racial>change it for 2% crit damage>remove it all together and give dwarfs 1% hit>>585819992Not for healers>>585819382Go gnome, bonus points for onahole look
>>585822267Agility also means like dodging & doing flips and shit
battle net app is failing to connect so I can't get my authenticator code so I can't log in so I can't reserve names. I'd like my money back right about now
>>585821349>waoh +15% spirit!>oh shit I’m the only person who uses spirit in the party Lmao
>>585822771can we still refund shit? i opened my toys on the stress test server lol, also gonna do name res, i wonder if refunds work after that
>>585820223I only gave a shit about this when I was a literal prisoner of the state due to some people having a feeling a bit under the weather. It's a question that has so many variables. From a pug point of view, if the boss is dying while you have maximum uptime; then you'll parse where your gear level is at. Things break down well before that, especially across a 40 people pug. Mistakes from poor play have a cascading effect on the whole group and impact parses far more than racials ever do.
I can't get in... wtf
>>585822771bnet is loading but button to run the game still isnt up...idk wtf they are doing, im gonna refund this shit if i miss reserving my name because of this.
So, does play button update on its own or do i need to relaunch battlenet for it to update?
>>585820351Post the talent tree like a normal person holy shit>anticipationinto the trash it goes
>refunding a $60 purchase>after most of you put at least 100 hours into betaim actually surrounded by poor brown ESLs
>>585821907Good thing Gehennas wasn't the only server in existence even if your streamerfaggots were on there.
>>585822419And you're a weeb
how many characters total do you get to use for a name? could Studdy Mcstuddystabberface fig?
>>585821390>almost no spell power scaling compared to wotlk chads>only works on lightning bolt>no dual wielding so stacking it will be slow as fuckIt's shit unless you can pull off tricks like hardcasting at 3 stacks between melee swings or some other bullshit
>>585822893You have to loosen my gnome up first
>>585822978it updates on it's own, tho the name reservation is delayed due to some final "technical issues" for EU.
>>585823214With how bad lightning bolt currently is, I'd feel ripped off is Maelstrom weapon was 1 talent point.
>>585822978I don't want to be a dick, but god some of you people are fucking retarded. Click the cog and then 'check for updates'
>>585823054Unironic bootlicking? Microsoft is not gonna fuck you nigga
I GOT 140 FPS MON IN WORLD OF WARCRAFG
>stress test was a laggy mess filled with DCs>name reservation not launching on time, delayed with no known ETA cause of technical issuesthe launch day is gonna be so bad. im thinking not even worth playing on launch night, better off sleeping early and playing later.
>>585823336the point is you get a free cast of lb stormstrike gives 20%, this means less mana spent meaning you dont need as much spirit and int gear and earth shock spam gets expensive
>>585822028No RPPVP?
*opens a cold one*uhhhh yeap, we're coming home
>>585822074I don't follow this guyWas he on something or is he a sperg?
>>585823574this was during one of his duels in the finals, he just had an unfortunate concentration face
the game gonna flop in a year, devs are clueless, in fact the whole company has lost the plotinsane some stuff private servers can come up while blizzard falls on their face every timeyou would imagine they prepare for the name reservation
>>585813941For me its Jeffrey Epstein Jk epstein is word filtered
>>585823363Sorry i was too busy with shit that actually matters instead of LEARNING ABOUT AND RETAINING INFORMATION THAT I WILL NEED ONCE IN MY LIFE ABOUT SOME FUCKING COG IN A FUCKING VIDEO GAME IM GONNA PLAY FOR 1 FUCKING MONTH
>AMV was actually peakokay blizzard you got me back
I'm quickly realizing this game is just a gaint meme rug pull and it will be dead within a year.>every change is just ported from retail>devs learned nothing from SoD>devs have no vision for a game, and just let reddit and streamers drive the changes>every thing being asked for by streamers and reddit are just "add X from retail">still vertical progression>progression still tied to running raids on a set schedule >pvp won't be balanced at all>all the fun will be nerfed out of existence from any class that finds a way to have it>balance decisions are made solely around wclogs meta>the way you level is completely locked in as one path and any deviation from that path is removed from the gameThe dev team has no idea what made classic fun, and therefore have no way to make a game that resembles what they're trying to mimic.
>>585823802Geoffrey Ebbstaein isn't
>>585823802Geoffry Islandstien
>>585824008>complains about retail changes>then complains about pvp not being balancedsmartest toxofag
Why are you reserving a name unless you are some known person. I promise you your name is not that special
THEY KNEW THIS EVENT WAS HAPPENING FOR WEEKS WTF IS THEIR PROBLEM HOW DO THEY FUCK THIS UP SO BAAAAAD. Launch is gonna be such a shitshow.
>>585824247nooooooooouuuu i am unique and special
>>585824247It was included in the package. Why wouldn't I.
>>585824247It's literally character creation early access. Not having to make your character as soon as the servers come online is kind of a big deal.
>>585824247i wanna reserve my meme name.
>>585824247I want some W3 hero names
>>585824247I want to steal name of some famous wow streamer and sell it to him for 10k
>>585824247im trying to get John Warcraft lol it's gonna be hilarious
>>585824286>November 4th>3 hours of downtime on launch followed by queues in the several hundred thousands>"Woah" we weren't expecting launch to be this popular! We had no way of knowing this many people would be starting their journey into World of Warcraft Forever! Our technicians are hard at work and we hope to have the issue resolved soon! See you in Azeroth...forever!"
>>585824575makes a good headline... again... doesn't it? it's as if they are doing this on purpose every single fucking time
>>585824561funny name anonI will try to get that one as well
>>585824575Yeah I'm thinking>go to sleep early on launch evening>wake up around 5-6 hours after launch>play when servers have stabilized
Any EU girls here? I want you to have my lastname in Forever.
>>585824247It's character creation early access
you know how on classic 2019 they somehow STILL didnt realize how popular it would be and they spun up new servers within 1-2 days? Imagine if for wowf launch>we didnt expect this demand so...were not going realmless...all characters have been wiped and we now have regular stucture, reroll piggies.
>>585824823kys. not saying this as a joke or as an insult. you need to kys.
>>585813721absolutely obliterated that fucking freak
Nobody else is brave enough to say it, so I will.I WANNA FUCK THAT GNOME WARLOCK FROM THE AMV
>>585825060I've never been a gnomefag on account of them looking like children but the totally apathetic, unengaged warlock casually solving the day while sitting in a tree, acting as though the act itself was more of a bother than anything, was very cute and aesthetic. too bad in game they just look and act like annoying children.
>>585824008If anything was proven with SoD 2 is that they have no fucking idea what would make for a great classic+ product, instead of using RICO to kill turtle wow off they should've just hired the goys behind turtle wow and used that as a base if nothing else for their "wow forever" shitshow, alas this whole ordeal is clearly being managed by the fucking sexless hags of the HR department and so OBVIOUSLY they aren't going to let white boys tell them how it's done much less use any of their work.wow forever will be more of the same shitshow that's been anything wow related for the last 20 years, they won't do shit about the botting problem either as they no doubt get a cut of the profits from the chinks or whoever happens to operate a bot gold farm.What's particularly disgusting though is the despite all the failures of the RECENT past be it wow classic, retail, SoD, you still got all these godless goyim meat animal nigger cattle fucks pissing themselves with excitement like a fucking dog over this wow forever shit, they couldn't even be fucked to make new interesting playable races like high elves for Alliance and Ogres for the Horde and just make this literal-who smurf elf shit-faction that just get to pick a side cause agian they couldn't be fucked to make two new races, as if it wasn't bad enough that the lore for these smurf elves was literally pulled out of some tranny's axe wound.I hope that EVERYONE that buys into this shit gets burned, has their time wasted and are basically given similar treatment to the anglo population of ingerlund for being such retards that'd STILL give blizzard any kind of money and time at this point.I hope there simply won't be that better world for any of them.
>>585825628Desensitization Stop looking at porn all the timeSave it for special times, not -all the time-
>>585825628Blessed lad, enjoy the purity of thought
>troll racial getting tuned nowyeah EU name reservations aren't coming up until they put this fire out and have the racials down completely. the servers aren't "down" they're just covering their asses cause they know they fucked up. if this persists, expect the clown in charge of racial balance to get canned
>>585825628sounds like you just started HRT, congrats anon
>>585825628Depression. But I'm just Anonymous on 4chan. Go see a doctor.
>blizz releases banger AMV>near crickets ITTdoomjeets?
>Clay Stonewhat a fucking name
>claude cannot into adding 4th server to pick>most of EU were stuck on NA server due to betaThis isn't even funny anymore.
>>585825628Stop watching so much porn anon it's not healthy for you
>>585810951>MoP>peak PvP>peak class designLOLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
bruh
>>585825628you've probably jerked off too much and caused masturbatory satiation. Just ignore it and the problem will fix itself eventually.
>>585819501Bitch im taking that name first. Do not redeem madarchod
Will the forced faction balance for PvP already kick in for the name reservation? I feel like it won't. Like you can freely create characters. But my fren thinks it will be forced even there.
