Purple editionThread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQXGb2Q7jF0Previous Mission: >>585767683>AC8 OUT NOWhttps://s.team/a/2288340https://youtu.be/F54vGYxj0ts>404th squadron ID70688023Please don't join if you don't plan to stick around>Online Progression Guidehttps://files.catbox.moe/g0cq7z.png>Aircraft & Part Database (SP Spoilers)https://ac8-database.pages.dev>Aces at War 2029https://pastebin.com/WMkgZKYM>AC7https://s.team/a/502500>Shootout Saturday is back! /aceg/ rooms are open every Sat at 1930 CET/1330 EST, with three rules:Put /aceg/ in your tag before game for IFF purposesNo EML/QAAM/SASMIn Roca Roja, use ONLY air-to-ground special weapons in the tunnel>Official /aceg/ AC7 MP guidehttps://rentry.org/acegMPguide>AC7 Resourceshttps://pastebin.com/Xbb41nvVhttps://rentry.org/ho8mm>AC6 is playable on PC via recomphttps://youtu.be/vr9m2XHpWYY>ACI is playable again!http://youtu.be/Q9wDRE7PszU>/aceg/ Emulation Guidehttps://rentry.org/ybyx6>AC3 Translation Patcheshttps://pastebin.com/ET0rSVc3>/aceg/ livery and emblem packhttps://rentry.org/3tokr>Encyclopedia Strangerealhttp://www.encycstra.net>New /aceg/ MEGAhttps://pastebin.com/aYYx2UKm>PA twitterhttps://x.com/PROJECT_ACES (JP)https://x.com/AceCombatGames (EN)>Kono's twitterhttps://x.com/kazutoki>Misc Stuffhttps://rentry.co/acegmisc>Project Wingmanhttps://s.team/a/895870>SPECIAL MESSAGE TO /aceg/ FROM PIXYhttps://www.cameo.com/v/qSL5bOosg>/aceg/ Permalinkhttp://orph.link/aceg>OP Templatehttps://pastebin.com/P0E8NwWCBECAUSE IT BEARS REPEATING:>Skill and guts are required here>Be a buddy, not a border>All planes are beautiful dreams>DELAY THE FINAL ATTACKFAQ>Has the Project Wingman update dropped yet?Haha...>Has a PS2 trilogy remake been announced yet?No.
Seven nukes, seven nukes is all I can spare to delimit my borders with you.
>>585853547This landscape reminds me of a map in 8 but which one? I think it's one of the multiplayer rotating ones.Any ideas?
>>58585381613, maybe?
>>585853816Two on the run
MY BLUE SKY HOOOOOOOOOOOOME
I need to stop trying to make sense of the story in my campaign replays. I find something new to scratch my head over each time.
Why is the MiG-29 so irrelevant both in vidya and IRL?
>in ace combat infinity, for the F-4, the Phantom Rider title was the level 3 title unlock, No Plans to Retire was the full unlock title>in AC8 No Plans to Retire is 50 sorties and Phantom Rider is 500 sortiesMakes me wonder if they accidentally did all the titles backwards somehow.
The WEAK get EATEN
>>585854089japs cant write a war plot to save their livesjust sit back and enjoy the fireworks
>>585854092It was built wrong on purpose, as a joke.
Still absolutely unreal to me that they just made AC:I 2 but worse despite Infinity being an objective failure in the first place.
>>585854432infinity paid for 7
>>585854336She does look edible.
>>585854336>Rex: <<Do a flip, faggot.>>
Most of the characters grew on me, even Tasha who I at first found insufferable, but Coster remains completely dull
>>585854515That's not a great defense considering 7's development issues. It also doesn't stop Infinity from being a failure.
>>585854738Coster is fine when you realize he's just a sensitive young man. He's not the life of the party, he just wants to vibe in the corner.
>>585854336I left Ventus alive during my rerun to talk her out of it
>>585854092Being a small plane with two big engines did it no favors
>>585854738They really frontloaded coster and his character arc and then forgot he existed until the end of the gamemakes me wonder if originally seizing Theve came later in the campaign
Today I noticed the reason why we don't have an wingmen kill count and a wingmen camera view in replay.In mission 4 she won't use ESM but I did watch Tasha lob missiles on Sotoan ships. This is why PA left those features out she is a cute pink hair murder machine like the rest of us.Other fun things started up a new game for my Fighter run and in mission 2 Tasha and Noise will be flying the last plane you had them fly in mission 29 of your previous run.Looked at the F-14A in the aircraft viewer the only skin it has you see Triggers emblem in the box but is just the base skin no FG, 444 or LRSSG skins. Did they use Triggers emblem as a place holder and forget to change it at release?
>>585854092It's pretty much a mook aircraft. At least it has representation in vidya unlike a certain other MiG.>>585854360Yeah. Usually I find most Jap media the plots aren't worth following but the characters normally are.>>585854738He gets some interesting lines to say but they normally get drowned out by all the action that is going on. He's like a little brother that gets ignored a lot so shuts himself in.
>>585854931Why? They're worth points and end up fine.It's Gemma that's a waste of your time to kill.
>>585854931I wish we got a better split between normal Sotoan military ace squadrons and the loathesome Shadow squadrons. Their views and general lack of respect for the Shadows was very interesting.
>>585855231>They're worth points and end up fine.Anon...
>>585855379Yeah, we should have gotten an increasing amount of Ventus pilots as we pushed Sotoa back and Rex starts hitting their defensive line.
>>585855231I already gave you my reason. If you don't shoot Ventus he tells her to surrender instead of blowing her brains out
>>585855379it'd be kinda neat to see sotoans that also agree with rex that the larpers are a problem
I was watchin a stream on all the good AC music in background while playing AC0 and some absolute fucking animal monopolized the stream putting in like 10 AC3 OSTs for 5$ each. That game is good but the soundtrack is horrible if you're not into itAn absolute torture for 95% of the viewers
>>585855379We should have gotten more dissent in the Sotoan ranks like guys disgusted with the war crimes or saying this war wasn't worth it once Rex shows up to fuck things sideways. Highlight the difference between the Nomads and the LARPers becuase as it stands any attempt to humanize the Sotoans falls on deaf ears with me
Using the drop tanks on mission 13 should let you skip 14 since you don't need the defective tanker drones.
Imagine being dumb enough to think it's acceptable to enter a live combat zone with a plane you haven't done ejection drills in.
>>585854092because like most shit made during the cold war it was an answer to a threat that only existed in people's heads
>>585855142Coster needed his own personal rival to overcome during the campaign. Maybe a Savian merc who shows up at several points to mock him on his music tastes who by the end admits they actually liked Purple Magic all along and have a crush on him which he then gets teased about
>>585855823IIRC the auto-ejection built into their planes doesn't even fucking work either lmao
>>585855823Why would I need to practice that? It's automatic, which means it's faster than manual ejection.This new tech is really cool, don't you think?
>>585855695I'd've liked to have seen the captain of Landship 3 try the same thing as Landship 2 and have the XO shoot him in the head then order the evacuation.
KONOGIVE IT BACK TO US
>>585855823FlightGPT will save me, trust
>>585855823not my problem that they haven't trained at all>fox 2
>>585855547Really?Post lines
>>585856039https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R16S-byT1Io
>>585855823It's worse when you think about it even longer>They haven't done ejection drills>They haven't even finished training>They're coming up against the strongest enemy squadron>All in the city that's a testament to their countries crimes against said enemy squadron>All while said enemy squadron has already completely devastated their armyMotherfuckers were BEGGING to be war crimed
>>585855987>5 seconds later: AHHHH AHHHHH I'M ON FIRE I'M BURNING TO DEATH IN MY OWN COCKPIT AAAAH
>>585856020KONOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>585856020The survey did you do it? It ask for things you want added in. I listed it and the other X originals to show up again.
>>585855231>It's Gemma that's a waste of your time to killActually not killing them is a waste of your time since you need to fullclear the map to end the mission early.So if you want to leave them alive you'll have to spend a few minutes just flying around doing nothing.
>>585855975>Tells Coster in another life they could've started a band before his plane explodes
>>585856171and their instructor crashed on takeoff on the way there
>>585856281>he think japs will bother with opinions of w*stoids
>>585856331I like that one Anon's suggesting that ENSO did it on purpose to convince the nuggets to go fight so they could collect data.
>>585856381At lest I'm trying instead of yelling pointlessly on an image board. Besides you know many of the older 11 players would ask the same thing
>>585855695I got the distinct impression that the Sotoans knew they had fucked up but felt they had made their bed and had to lie in it. FCU did not seem to be in the mood for any mercy towards the end after all the shit that the Sotoans had pulled.
>>585856281>The survey did you do it? It ask for things you want added in. I listed it and the other X originals to show up again.Sure did! But that was days ago. How long can it take?
>>585856469>they even look like mother hens protecting chicks in their introMan, I love PA.
>>585856281>mfw I put in 5 variations of the F-4 and nothing elselollmao
>Take a stroll through the lower decks of the Endurance>Come across thisWhat do you do anons?
>>585854738Coster is literally me. Not that I mind you calling me dull, just as long as you let me vibe and do my work.
Ok so everyone jerks of Hortus and Star Bound Bird but what are some obscure bangers that need some love?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Lah3DiSlhM&list=PLGzf_95xpbyY&index=52https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0eavhISnvk&list=PLGzf_95xpbyY&index=43https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=py003AfdeSM&list=PLGzf_95xpbyY&index=37
I actually like it, design wise.
>>585856281I insisted on them adding all the aircraft from Area 88 to the game.
>>585857007Tell her to stop clipping through her jacket, it makes the game look cheap.
>>585857046Legit forgot what this one was.
>>585856381They already mentioned they intend to fix the awful menus in online so I guess they're kinda listening
>>585857027Hangar II is probably my favorite track of the whole game.https://youtu.be/sBh9-T4CGRk
>>585856842Wild Weasel my beloved…
>>585857046it's no Apalis, that's for sure
>>585856569Only time I really got that impression was with Land Battleship 2 and Mavismen, both were special kinds of fucked if they gave up so they both opted for different kinds of suicide, though I don't think the LB2 crew would have consented to being slow cooked
>>585857027Shadow 22 has great boss music. I'm sad they're taking away his flareshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRa3MPLLR7Q
>>585857027Wings of Wax, it's such a good "desperate rush to chase the target" songhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDLJBXRuO-Y
>>585857373>make ECM planes a thing>no WW Phantom IICriminal.
>>585857046Dogshit fighter jet, fucking fantastic star fighter
>>585855226It's cool but it's also sort of a piece of shit
>>585857395Nah it's definitely not, but vertically stacked engines are hot and I like all the variable surfaces.
>>585857335They didn't need to as funky as they got but bless em that shit fucked almost as hard as 7's DLC hanger theme
>>585857569We need an EW Phantom, an attacker Phantom, a carrier Phantom, and a Coffin Phantom.
>>585857046"just throw every sci-fi plane feature in the blender" ahh design
>>585857046
>>585857569>no Tornado ECR>no EF-111 Raven
>>585857726*ass
>>585857046Visually way too busy.
>>585857726Just fuck my shit up
>>585857986Now that's just fucking stupid and not even in a cool stupid way
>>585856842Should have put all the variations of the F-4 including experimental and prototypes.>>585857438Rocky Island seemed like they were fighting to the death not that the Immortals were giving any quarter anyway. The mad bastards were demanding airstrikes on their position just to kill more Sotoans.>>585857589Oh its a colossal piece of shit. That's why I love it.
now that street fighter is out of the way when will ace combat get a live action film adaptation?
>>585857774Tornado should be added and come with an ewar, attacker and interceptor variant.
>>585858110>Should have put all the variations of the F-4 including experimental and prototypes.No thanks. One of the best things about AC8 is how few protoshit aircraft it has. It's basically only the Berkut.
>>585858114We have one, it's called Top Gun Maverick.
>>585858395cringe boomer retard
>>585858340Even the Berkut doesn't really count because it's not a prototype in the context of Strangereal.
>>585853816It's the half complete land battleship mission, southern waipolo mountains iirc?
>>585857046I like it but it would be a lot better of the flaps and wingtips were fixed position
>>585858340>PSMs you in his canarded vietnam rustbucket causing you to eat a HVAAnothin' personnel, kiddo
Mavisimen must be left alive to tell the tale.
>>585858550>flaps>fixed position
>>585857986stavatti looking thing
>>585858114Stealth pretty much was an AC movie. Yes it was that bad.
>>585857027For me it's Lifeline in the Desert. It's pretty much an Assault Horizon flavored remix of Lifeline from Ace Combat 4.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFmcRO4D6cM
Man the ZERO grind was so fucking ass, i don't understand how people can complain about the aircraft tree of AC7 and 8I finished the game 6 fucking times and i'm about at half plane bought and almost all SPW missingNostalgia is a hell of a drug
>>585858114ace combat isnt a big enough title for a movie plus itd be stupid expensive to make
>>585858975I mean, they made a Wing Commander movie, and that had a fraction of the fanbase modern Ace Combat does.
>>585858114Why would you want hollyjew touching your favorite IPs
Did Coster give anyone else creep vibes with how obsessed he was with Tasha
>>585857046I understand what they were going to: X-29 but instead of being F-5 is a F-22I still don't like it
I'm still mad the CFA-44 didn't get drones in 7. Not that they would've been good, but still.
>>5858589315 is far worse in that regard though
It's called AIM-120 because you get 120 of them right?
>>585859129Shut the fuck up girldad
>>585859060Yeah but Chris Roberts always wanted to be a movie maker but never was able to pull it off outside that one good Nicholas Cage movie.
>>585859060>comparing 90s moviemaking with modern anon youre retarded
>>585859129No, because I'm not autistic or a mentally stunted zoomer.
>>585859129Yeah he's really weird. For most of the game I expected him to be the traitor. Maybe that was the original plan for him but they ended up scrapping it for whatever reason.
>>585859129Yes, because I'm a well adjusted and mentally developed boomer.
what a bunch of fags and trannies
>>585859129Never seen an older brother be protective of their baby sister before have you?
F4tards fuck off with your ugly vietnamshit brick
>>585859275It's a lot cheaper now, at least for special effects.
>>585859440She's 17 and he's in his 40's. It's creepy.
>>585859440They're not siblings though. They're professional coworkers.
>>585859508No. In fact fuck you go rub my belly!
>>585859129>this is how quiet young white men are seen, even when they are as handsome as CosterNormalfags are like flock cameras with legs
>>585859129No because it's pretty clear he's trying to make sure the airheaded non-combatant civvie stunt pilot doesn't get killed, so he kinda has to stick to her out of necessity. In any case, I got sibling vibes between Coster and Tasha rather than anything weird.
>>585859138Isn't the X-29 but F-22 just the og Wyvern?
>>585859440theyre not related
>>585859129No, because I am autistic and couldn't care less about the characters
>>585859129They literally tell you at the start of the game he's there to look after her
>>585859636People in this thread have no siblings it seems. Tasha is Dork coded
>>585858697He probably meant the tail
>>585859246God, Lord of War was so fucking good. I need to watch that intro again.
>>585859160It really isn't. I finished AC5 8 times and i 100% itWhile i'm looking at at least 12 more playthroughs plus the 6 i already did to finish Zero, if i don't miss any ace
>>585859768Almost nobody has siblings irl, that's something that only ever happens in fiction.
>>585859575>that's just a fishing pole>he threw a fishing pole in the water
>>585859672I'd say the Wyvern is more similiar to a Su-47 + F-22
I like the Su-47, but every other attempt at FSW just doesn't work for me
>>585859768I have a sibling and I've seen guys act like Coster to her. They were teenagers though, so a guy in his 40s acting like a teenager is indeed creepy.
>>585859768>People in this thread have no siblings it seems.Honestly think that is par for the course these days. It is rare for the younger generations to have brothers and sisters.
Ground SPWs not locking on parked planes is a bitch.
Why do people think Coster is in his 40s? Late 20s at most
>>585856842Ngl I would enjoy having 5 different F-4's to chose from.
>>585860327He has grey hair.
>>585860327Because they are fishing and hoping people take the bait.
>>585859508>dumbfires a napalm bomb into your cockpit
I asked for her
This F35 skin needs fixin'
>>585860078She's so pretty.
>>585857046A while ago an anon shooped this image and made the Shinden look a lot better. It started with getting rid of that horrific top intake.
>>585860078I see a lot more Flanker-related designslike the nose cone, or the cockpit, or the thin part sticking out between the enginesbut its big, swoopy engines remind me of a Flanker the mostfrom the super-low intake scoops, back to the humps on the back as the engines make an S-like curve before they straighten out, to the shape and look of the nozzles at the end
>>585860862I'm not sure a low intake would look much better.
>>585861059It kept the DSI inlets either side of the cockpit.
>>585861132Post it for me if you happen to come across it if you wouldn't mind, I want to see it.
>>585860862what do you have against top intakes
>>585859768>>585859926>tfw older sisterwe despised each other for a majority of our childhoods and only grew to appreciate each others company once we got older and didn't see each other as much, but we still get on eachothers nerves. I was pretty close with my extended family so idk how it is with real biological brothers, but despite getting teased, I looked up to my older cousins even when we got on each others nerves, now we're old and chilled out.>>585860241although at the different work places I've been at, you see old head niggas trying to hit on the younger teammates and they'll look visibly uncomfortable.Honestly I didn't think much of Costers comments after the fact, but at the time it felt like they came out of nowhere, but I assume this was just a japanese writing thing since some anime do shit like this, but the hyperrealistic graphics make it a bit uncomfortable. I assume he sees her nothing more than a little sister and nothing else, but you never know with the japs...
Tewy was a mid-tier final boss but with a god tier themehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYJkJrpYDHY
do you think Prez has fun out there >>585861516Sums up the Shadows in general, fantastic presentation and shit to mid actual performance in gameplay
>>585861629>and shit to mid actual performance in gameplaythere has never been a Ace Combat good boss fight that was just a regular enemy fighterbig, complicated, multi-stage superweapons can be fun boss fightsbut there just aren't enough things that the devs can change about a normal fighter's performance to make it behave differently and make it more challenging without either going too far and making it cheap, or not going far enough and making it boring
Here's some kinohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IaRkKpMn_8
>>585860509NAPALM STICKS TO RETARDS
>All of Queen flight have full models and helmets in the cockpit.Just how much was cut from this fuckin game goddamn.
>>585862040Fuck man now you startled the project tranny faggots and they are going to shit up the thread again
>>585862040>there has never been a Ace Combat good boss fight that was just a regular enemy fighterBasically all AC fighter boss battles boil down to "shoot when their AI lets you get a hit in for no reason reason", given that the flight model means you dont have to manage energy, and 99% of missile shots can be avoided by just turning really hard in any direction
I just have fun flying plen
>>585862265Why do we hate PW again
>>585862242I am honestly expecting people to find out that half the game size is just from cut crew interactions on the Endurance.
>>585862484we don't hate PWwe hate the retards that say that everything that is not PW in AC is "le bad"
>>585861516Fucking update when
>>585862484We don't hate PW. We hate the fans.
>>585862583When did that happen
>>585862583I see like 10x more people bitching about PW "fans" than I do people acting like this.
actually, *I* hate PW (I have never played it)
In the PS2 games if you went and goofed off on very easy you noticed it only took 1 missile to shoot down an enemy plane.>FF to 2026You don't have to be on free win mode you can do it on any difficultly you want If you equip bothAir-to-Air Ballistic Correction Module (MSL)Directional Proximity Fuze (MSL)You can now shoot down enemy planes named ones like Shadows as well with a single missile>mfw when I tried this out to see if it had any effect.
>>585862643two more weeks
>>585862242You can see their helmets during the credits but yeah going by the early media tours it's clear they had to cut a bunch of stuff
>>585862119LOL they even flip over when they die
>>585861629>Sums up the Shadows in general, fantastic presentation and shit to mid actual performance in gameplayLARPers even in a meta sense
>>585862730a couple of threads ago + 2 times in the last week when we were rating our AC experiences>>585862735it's good so they don't get all uppity again
>>585862792I want it NOW
>>585862815That's just how game development goes though.
>>585862516They obviously put a huge amount of resources in it to map out the Endurance and create full fidelity models for random characters like the nurse and Queen flight only to have them do nothing but stand around in the background of briefings. Makes me wish they make a "Ace Combat 8 Game of the Year Edition" where they finish up all the cut interactions.
>>585841270Look at him, he just dyes his hair and styles it like a teenager to look young.
>>585862242Aw fuck I think Queen flight might be out DLC story>Queen flight had a Ten Million Relief Plan tier mission off screen during the early game when you're doing busy work missions
>>585862815it was pretty obvious by how many maps they reused and how you hop around the world at random, i'm surprised the game is still as big as it is
>>585862974Do you have an example
It's pretty fucking lame that you only fight the FA-36 when it's in the hands of clueless nuggets and basically free kills
>>585863189Coster being a nonce is mindblowing. What did PA mean by this? I bet he doesn't actually listen to Purple Magic either. Just pretends to in order to lure in underage girls.
>>585863090It is but anyways the game's already great even if they to trim it
how does a mercenary group afford a whole ass aircraft carrier and how are they allowed to have one
>>585863995Their economy relies on their mercenaries
>>585863995Because in Strangereal even high schoolers have multi-million dollar military equipment, you think a non-nuclear aircraft carrier would be hard to get?
>>585863995they're playing area 88 while we're playing ace combat
Did they only give Topkek an Su-57 for the ebin Top Gun reference? Mihayl was rockin a fuckin X-02 10 years before but the Sotoa that can crank out Land Battleships and Ladons gave their top Ace a near 20 year old plane while their nuggets are rocking experimental AC3 planes?
>>585856469
>>585862815Guess PA bit off more than they could chew again.
Also, what do you mean "allowed to use one"?There's no restriction, even in real life. Anybody with enough money can buy an aircraft carrier, they're not illegal in any way. It's just an airfield but on the ocean.
>>585863995Military equipment is cheap in strangereal. A Mig-21 is the price of a used Corolla. Osea has B-2s rotting in boneyards. A carrier is probably no more expensive than a mansion.
>>585863995Scarface's group had two back in the 90s. Strangereal mercs don't fuck around.
>>585862643Probably not til December I think. A huge map + 2 new planes is a lot
>>585864245>There's no restriction, even in real life. Anybody with enough money can buy an aircraft carrier, they're not illegal in any way.If you somehow acquired a few billion dollars and set to buy or produce an aircraft carrier you'd have all the NATO faggots telling you to fucking stop that in no time
>>585863995Yuke surplus
>>585863995this is a world where fighter craft cost peanuts and a nation can throw 1000 of them at a single objective dont think about it
>>585864398>A huge map + 2 new planes is a lotWhat do you mean two new planes
>>585863995>how does a mercenary group afford a whole ass aircraft carrierThere's a war starting on Strangereal like every 15 minutes so mercenaries are high in demand. Some nations probably spend their infinite superweapon budget on mercenaries instead.Even if you put aside strangeness of strangereal, plenty of irl companies have enough money to afford a used aircraft carrier. Hell, russia probably would be glad to pay someone to take kuznetsov off their hands if it wasn't a matter of national pride.>how are they allowed to have oneThere's no law in international waters. They might be limited on what docks they can use, but they can easily service at least two continents so long as they have an arrangement with a Savian port and government.
>>585864081Still poor fags, Scarface has a Nimitz class while those mercs were stuck with a ski ramp carrier.
>>585864808Do you have an aircraft carrier, anon?
>>585864189Blame turks for not finalising a production KAAN before AC8 was out.
>>585864876Yes
>>585864460So just park your carrier in Savia, which is not a member of NATO. Problem solved.
>>585864659There is a big C-17 thing, and then also a small UCAV
>>585864876His economy doesnt rely on him
>>585865058May I see it?
>>585864808Their earnings go towards supporting the Savian economy, they can't afford a fancy Osean make carrier so they put up with the used looted-from-Erusea hand-me-down cope slope carrier. Meanwhile Infinite Industries in Online just has a couple Nimitz classes parked near their base out in the boonies that you only see in the practice mode.
>>585865078Oh yeah i didn't count the drone as a plane but you're right. Well hopefully we get a nice december update then. I also hope the VTOL VR dude finally releases some fucking content, now that he's back.
>>585865141Nah.
>>585864189all he knows about the FA36 is that pilots are all dying or crashing in them so he sticks with ol' reliable
>>585863197>Queen flight might be out DLC storyI've had that thought as well it could work. Already got a whole squad with models ready they do go they do some missions while you do your thing it could work. But who says we only have to have a single DLC story and not two or three?
>Not really interested in playing EW.>Not really interested in playing attacker.>Got Morgan to 20 as a multirole.>Got F-16 to 20 as my planefu and fighter.>Other fighters aren't that much better than F-16 to be worth several weeks of grind to get to 20.>Other multiroles are kind of shit, also not worth several weeks grind.Is this where Online ends for me?
>>585864189Proto-Game is filled with inane automated bullshit that prevents skilled pilots from using and abusing it as they wish. In the voice recordings in Mission 28 Tewy calls out Enso for selling them lemons.
>>585863197>Queen flight might be our DLC story> << Damn, Kate. How come you flew so insanely well for like two weeks there, but then just went back to normal afterward? >>
>>585864189Grunder built Felons are actually superplanes and not scams
>>585866174>>Not really interested in playing attacker.An attacker's useful to have if only for Emergency Sorties. Most of the players who stuck around will clear them, but you never want to trust random lobbies.
Long Phantom is loooong
>>585866360He didn't get a real Grunder Felon he got a Felon that was claimed to be from Grunder off StrangeTemu
>>585864876What color is your aircraft carrier?
>>585866676White with red and blue polka dots :)I call it the SS Wonderbread.
>>585866676WW1 black and white dazzle camo, of course
>>585864876Y-yeah...
>>585865831>>585866272He didn't need a Game, they could've given him an Apalis or Fenrir or any other older superplane to make his final flight more climactic.
>>585863995>>585865192The anon who suggested Savia is Switzerland is probably right. They aren't independent mercs, they're Savian military forces contracted through the Savian government as mercenaries.It serves as a foil to megacorporate governance for actual governments to be acting as a business.
u think ace combat 8 gonna win any game awards bros
>>585867624Other than OST? Nah. They like choosing a single game to sweep the awards and this year is probably gonna be GTA 6.
>>585867624I hope notThese awards are lame and I want Ace Combat to take no part in such faggotry
>>585867624Rockstar paid for a GTA sweep, so no.
>>585866416I suppose I can level my F4 for fun pods. I know Su-25 is better for it but it's just too ugly
In one month I've put almost as many hours into AC8 as I did AC7 in seven years helps that I don't do multiplayer
>>585866793I've seen these things eat 7 or 8 Tuskos and live, catamaran design is no joke.
>>585857027Legitimately one of my favorite tracks in the whole series.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKFSIOleDw0
>>585866174How's the F-16 in Online?Been debating which fighter I want to raise and I love my 4th gens>Is this where Online ends for me?Start on the nickname grindhttps://ac8-database.pages.dev/nicknames/
Dumb question, but how do Emergency Sorties and Scrambles work? Do they get awarded to everyone in the lobby or just random individuals?I ask, because it’s pretty consistent that when I run one, there will be at least one person that was in the last lobby with me.
>>585867624Win?Maybe not, even though it deserves to win, I'm ok if it doesn't win, as long as it gets a fair nomination.But if there's no nomination I will make angry memes on twitter
Fuck these guys only show up in the periphery of cutscenes on the carrier and they all got cockpit modelshttps://x.com/_BillyTheKid_/status/2114544192022303220
>>585868024I think it's a whole lobby event.The more matches a lobby gets, the more likely it is to get it.
It would be sick if when your entire group is from your squadron, the MP intro for your group changes from the MP default to one of the SP aces intros, like with the camera work and flourishing the squadron name.
joker 2 has landed
>>585868008F-16 is good, it's as agile as the best of them and it gets QAAMs which may not be the best, but still decent. Probably not as practical as Mig-31 that gets QAAMs and LAAMs or SASM planes or EW planes of course. If you say those are the S tier picks though, I'd say F-16 is a solid A tier.>Midnight Wanderer500 games with EA-6B. Imagine the suffering.>Hawk Eyes500 games with F-35. F-35 is one of the planes I quite like too, shame it's shit.>OmniscientRafale is also a favourite of mine which is also shit unfortunately. Online mode really does multiroles dirty.Besides those, Sill Alive? and Falconer are probably the ones I'd go for I suppose, but I feel dirty flying the Morgan.
Bamco, I have but one request from you.STOP TELLING ME I HAVE AN UNLOCK IN THE ACEPASS WHEN I’VE ALREADY COMPLETED IT, YOU SLANT EYED FUCKS
Betty lost the Rex bowl?
>>585869262Fake out, Kate has to watch from the cuck pilot chair as Rex and Betty (King 2) flirt over the comms.
>>585869028Lets not forget in SPsome settings have been reset to default as the game is still installingNo you are not installing your long finished Its been telling me this every 1-3 missions since I started playing.
>>585864460You mean like India? China? Fucking Brazil and Indonesia?NATO doesn't give a fuck about floating airfields.
>>585867624It's a game made for ensouled triple digit IQ east Asians and Whites, of course not.
>>585864460retardo-kun
I feel like online's PvE if the missions had actual fucking objectives beyond>lmao, I guess race your teammates to high score?Make the missions like retaking of theve/assault on rocky island. Give us a fleet or some LCACs that we need to protect. Send a wide variety of threats that we need to intercept and defeat before our escort targets are taken out so that different types of planes and different types of special weapons can be useful. They could have bomber wings show up that HPAA are good at swatting. Flights of attackers that 4AAM are good at knocking out. B2's loitering at the edge of the battle flinging cruise missiles. Enemy naval ships for LASMs. Massed groups of rocket artillery on the shore for ground pounders to mop up. Throw in some interference like shadow-22 flight copycats that have the full flare/kulbit spam package and do their best to disrupt you. Put some land cruisers on the shore with railguns to harasses your team. You can go blow up the cruisers, but that draws you away from the escort. Or set things up a bit like the AC4 Megalith fight where thematically there is a ground battle going on and you need to complete a series of objectives in time for their operation to continue. Either way they can fine tune the challenge by adjusting our objective timer durations or the number of enemies in each wave of defenses.
>>585868870Personally I'm currently grinding Unwelcome Visitor (A-6 x50) and Cannon Fodder (FA-36 x50). Not sure which 500s I want to grind just yet.Fuck the meta, fly what you like and laugh as you kill shitters in meta planes with your shit plane
>>585869028> !Select mode>oh? Did it forget to play the alarm again when a scramble/emergency sortie became available?>No. LMAO GET FUCKED.
>>585864189topkek is too much of an elitist to fly anything else
>>585870049Unreal 5 cannot handle that many enemies. Enemies already lose their ai when there are no players nearby.
>>585870272Oh good. I thought I was the only one that’s had that happen
>>585870272>>585870539It happens when the map rotation changes once every 30 mins.
>>585870591I know why. It shouldn't. The map rotation isn't worth an "!"
I hate Flankers.But them yeeting the chaff and flares out the tops rather than the bottom is cool
>>585869952its funny that those smol australian ones are built by spain
>>585870469It doesn't need to be more enemies than are in singleplayer. It's just that now they shoot at our defense targets and we can actually lose of the LCACs die.
>>585870469I just want to replay the iconic scenes from previous games as a setpiece rather than just the same missions on different terrain, why not assault on Sudentor where you need to tunnel run for the second half while enemies chases you? or why not replay the Yinshi valley mission from AC7?
>>585870469Unreal can handle over 60,000 individual AI entities. Unlike Source.
>>585870796It cannot even handle as many enemies as singleplayer in a multiplayer enviroment when those enemies gotta stay synced for 8 people at once.Even with as few enemies as we have, they lose sync between players and you'll see friendly missles hit the enemy planes when they were throwing chaff in your screen.
>>585870667Flankers are the best because Sukhoi built a plane big enough that it can carry a weapon on every hardpoint and still have enough range to do stuff. Meanwhile it's basically a given that every MiG or NATO fighters needs to dedicate 2 pylons to fuelslop, which is inefficient and unaesthetic.
>>585871186Then bias it towards heavier targets like the battlecruisers/heavy howitzers/siege engines/bombers instead of spamming >APC x 500
>>585870056One of the really shitty parts of Online is the huge upgrade costs, especially gold blueprints. Maxing out any plane means trading off the ability to max out another plane for 2-12 days depending on the tier, unintentionally pushing players to spend scarce resources on metaslaving instead of love.also game is the best sasm slinger
>>585870667It has a practical application too, since when you're turn fighting you stay close to your flares for longer
WHERE IS THE SOUNDTRACK??
>>585864189The real reason they gave Toprak an Su-57 is because it's a fuckhuge plane. They wanted it to be an easier to hit gun target for Nuggets in mission 28.
>>585871837Waiting for the DLC
>>585871860It's not really any bigger than other heavy fighters like the F-15, F-14, Super Hornet, Flanker, etc
I kinda hate the Fatsia on Ace. Those long range SAMs are annoying and the fucking target switching not switching to the target not only closest to me but also that I'm directly looking at is retarded. Fatsia kinda just sucks in general.
>>585872051try dumb bombs, fren
>>585871550>>585870667Not like it matters much for modern fox-2s that are virtually immune to flares but something kind of neat that I've noticed in war blunder:>NATO flares going down are better for dragging classical fox-2 missiles away from your plane after deploying countermeasures.>Russian up-flares are better at keeping multiple heat sources within the field of view of Fox-2s with tracking suspension IRCCM (ex: AIM-9M), so it's easier to keep them lobotomized in their suspended tracking inertial guidance mode until it is too late for them to intercept you after they've finished rejecting all of the flares and re-enter tracking mode.
>>585872051SOD big bro
do you think coster has a,,, "special someone"...
>>585872051Thread the needle
>>585872051Just fire missiles blind you'll hit something and an entire arm will explode.
>consistently shitting up the bottom of the leaderboards>Switch to the Phantom>MVP after MVP after MVPI LOVE THE F-4! I LOVE THAT SMOKE MAKING WHORE!
>>585871363Sure, but if you've already decided you don't want to raise anything meta because you're either uninterested (EW, Attackers) or they're only a tiny upgrade from your Falcon (other Fighters), you may as well throw them at what you love.Unless your point is that you're going to quit Online, which is honestly kind of where I'm at now as well
>>585872107Yea I'm dropping SFFSs all over but the long range SAMs make it pretty annoying. Hard to catch them all give their awkward positioning.
>>585872307a surprising amount of stuff just can't deal with the HVAA
>>585872424>>585872307The HVAA with +range ability just barely gets into the range where AI is lobotomized and won't do shit.
>>585872226You couldn't tell?
>>585872497Isn't it like 7k where the AI stops functioning?
>>585872424I’m hot and cold with the HVAA. Sometimes it feels like it can’t miss and just clears the sky. But sometimes it feels like I’d be better off opening the cockpit and throwing rocks. It’s just not very consistent.Same with the QAAM.
>>585872023It's a full meter wider and longer than an F-15. Not only that, the target area it presents when doing kulbit is nearly twice as large.
purple magic is ASS
>>585872550>>585872557I feel like HVAA have a narrower band of launch angles where they successfully will hit a target, but that AI generally won't react in time to take any defensive action once you launch. That said I like stacking+speed on them for maximum NYOOOOOM.
>>585872023It's a fat bitch
AC8 probably had the worst soundtrack of the franchise. I'll never understand why they use buttrock when that's the music of old people. Get with the times.
>>585872307All anon had to do was wait for a hero to come along.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVCnA9MIhAE
Need more 5th gens
>>585872858Who the fuck is T-50 Pak Fa and why is he skinwalking as Felon?
>>585872770What's the point of having a soundtrack when modders with AI are already putting in better music?
>>585854336I remember having to climb to save my bacon in Unsung war. The nuggets get to fly away every time for me.
>>585872938Sukhoi's designation for it, iirc.
>>585872858Soulless overpriced CAD designed garbage
>>585872938T-50 is the prototype Felon. Pak Fa is the program that designed the T-50.
>>585872938T-50 is the pre-serie model of the Su-57a prototype reallyPAK-FA is just the project's name, like GCAP or whatever it is that's still alive
>>585872858they asked permission for the J20 from CAC but china denied the license
>>585872938The prototype version, what else would it be? Just like you find T-50's in 2's remake
>>585872968Light needs shadow. An inferior human soundtrack must exist so superior tracks can stand out. Only then can we achieve AI ascension into the Electropshere and leave behind these vessels of fat flesh.
>>585872189what the fuck was up with that one cutscene where they spent like 5 solid minutes shilling the superior craftsmanship of Yuktobanian pens
>>585872770>>585872968"now son, if you wanna make the bait believable, ya gotta be less obvious with your shit posting, otherwise you'll never get people bitin'!"
>>585873426Um, ackshually, they're ENSO pens
>>585873426It wasn't about the craftsmanship of Yuktobanian pens. It was about how Enso had infiltrated every level of the global supply chain in every country on the globe. Pens, sports teams, food, etc.
>>585873426>Yuktobanian pensThey're Enso pens. If you paid attention to the cutscene maybe you'd know.
>>585873617Enso is the company DD works for, retard.
>>585873497But AC8 DOES have the worst soundtrack in the series.There are still a few decent tracks, but overall, it's terrible. Absolutely filled with the most generic garbage anime stock music that was sitting forgotten in a library somewhere. Go back and listen to the music from mission 17 and honestly try to tell me that it's anything else.
>>585873834
>>585873834Not anymore it isn't.
>>585873426The way you stupid fucks just don't pay attention to anything astounds me.
Wings on Sieve
in basedworld every vantablack geriatric gorillanigger who jerks off the abysmally boring ace combat 6 ost would be turned into fertilizer
https://x.com/_BillyTheKid_/status/2115186572119212170
Things on Weve
Are VTOLs unheroic / unromantic? Are Harriers and F-35Bs just grunt fantasy compared to the knight fantasy of Flankers and Eagles?
>>585874053(formerly Theve)
>>585874065Coster needs a fucking haircut and some conditioner
>>585874065>Coster has a "1999" on his tattooWhat's this in reference to? A lot of stuff happened in that year.
>>585873514>>585873538>>585873617yeah I know that they went on to talk about how the global supply chain was being bought up, but before that they had Tasha doing an hour-long Vanna White impression showing off how her impeccable Yuke pens were folded 1,000 times
>>585873872honestly you could probably say this about the greater series, they all got stinkers and AC8 probably sticks out more for you because it's a bit bloated in length, but it's a fine ost, inoffensive overall.
>>585874109The only soulful VTOL was the Yakolev 141
>>585874254He'd forget his birth year otherwise
>>585874254>UseanProbably lost his parents to Ulysses or something
What are the odds the Endurance at some point had a free roam section between missions for you to fuck around the ship?
>>585874254It's the name of one of the Purple Magic albums
>>585874306pick literally any song from AC4 or AC5 at random and ~80% of AC8's songs cannot hold a fucking candle to itit's just not the same at all
>>585873872meltyyy
>>585874383I was thinking something like that, but he shows no reaction when Ulysses is brought up during that island raid mission.
>>585874442>if you wrote more than 8 words, it's a meltygen alpha is coooooooked
>>585874424>pick literally any song from AC4 or AC5You mean the 90s action game bgm? Just fuck off retarded boomer contrarian.
>>585874415Very liklely. For me what made it obvious was the cutscenes after it's revealed that Cope is Sotoan and you eventually go into his room to look through his belongings. The way it's presented, they must've wanted you to look trough the room yourself.
>>585874424I mean yeah. then at that point I don't think I could do the same for Air Combat, X, JA, and 6, but I can remeber more from 8 than those games.
>>585874415100%. In fact, I thought this was the case from the marketing materials.
>>585874568>no argument>waaaahhh go awayI'm sorry, I thought that I was talking to a non-retarded poster.
>>585874415Sound fun
Are PA too ambitious or does Bandai just hate giving them money
>>585874847Too ambitious.I honestly do not like the cutscenes. Not because they're bad, but because they're unnecessary and I'd prefer FMVs.
>>585874415I wonder if thats why online has 3rd person avatar control, its the remnants of whatever systems they had for free roam carrier exploration.
>>585874791>grrr i need my generic guitar bgm :(
Holy fucking penis I love flipping and flopping around at Mach 1 with infinite chaff and flares.
>>585874847Game had minimum like 5 year development time. That's a lot of time to make an ace combat game. More likely they're just extremely inefficent.
>>585874939>grrr i need my generic guitar bgm :(oh so you've just never played AC4 or 5 then
>>585875019cutting extraneous bullshit like walking sections in an ace combat title is actually what efficiency is
>>585874793>Rex is a fucking DullahanSotoa was fucked from the start
>>585874791>>585874939you niggers need to chill, I kno it's an uneventful tuesday but damn.
>>585874847they threw a lot of things at the wall to see what worked and decided some of it wouldn't work
>>585874847In this case probably too ambitious. They spent time programming cars moving on roads in some missions.
AC4 is rehash of 2
>>585874939The thread isn't dead enough to justify shitty baits to keep it alive.
>>585875108Not building them in the first place is what efficiency is. Half building them is inefficent.
>>585875271Yeah but the threads are comfy and filled with people enjoying themselves and we know faggots on this site can't abide that
>>585875229with working traffic lights
>>585875236True, just has less BINGO
wife
>>585875271keep in mind the only proof that 8 supposedly had freely explorable carrier sections is that the laser scanned room is too le detailed
I just want to make ironic shitposts that people are supposed to laugh at. Not everything is a conspiracy.
>>585875229>Blowing up shit on Newfield island >Traffic just keeps on going like its a normal day>It really is a typical day in USEA
>>585875557Ironic shitposting is still shitposting you fucking retard
>>585874939>generic guitar bgmGenuinely, are you in the wrong thread? Have you ever played either game?AC4 was a bunch of synths, and AC5 was a bunch of orchestral stuff.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWf6ZE5zGyghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMiFQrAQ_Nchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPgF8mvMvvwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqIzNkRDUQAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VY28eWDqL7Ehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKdqr6WXCK0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35y6kw7L7Mshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71kObmO_eHA
>>585875617You don't get to decide how I tell jokes.
>>585875503Did you watch thing the other anon linked? There's a room that's never shown in any of the cutscenes and it has full textures on the pc screen.
>>585875691Sure, however I do get to decide if you're a retard or not (you are)
I think this what an 'explorable' Endurance would have looked like>explore between missoins>briefing room has characters in it to talk to, also where you start the briefing>cafeteria has characters in it to talk to>possibly the top deck was explorable and had characters to talk to>Cope's room was explorable, maybe had some interactable items in it, in general it would have been "your room" after Cope's death to maintain the illusionBut not all of that would have worked with certain missions that had more urgency than others.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IaRkKpMn_8>Drop in the Land Aegis in the middle of the battleLove this. It's like something out of an RTS game or something.
>>585875724thats the doctors office from the very beginning of the game...
>>585875947You forgot to mention the interactable romance scene with Kate.
>>585876114What do you think Cope's room is for?
>>585875973And just like in an RTS, they should have dropped their high value troops farther away so that they can engage only a few enemies at a time. Not right in the middle of the battlefield next to enemy surface ships when most of your ground forces have already been wiped out so you stick out like a sore thumb
>>585876162Theveing?
>>585876162jacking off to pictures of Tewy?
>>585876270Yeah but this looks cooler when done like that.
>>585876270Unfortunately the rule of cool wins
>>585876067I forgot that cutscene entirely. It's a shame we see so little of it desu, would be nice to have an exploration mode where we could look around the endurance.
>>585875973Next AC title should really focus on massive battles like AC6/PW, but with a focus on goofy state of the art super-tech like air battleships being a consistent presence on missions, along with land superweapons like mechs or giant tanks. One other thing that I want are mega-structures, not because muh indie scale mood shit, but because sky needs more stuff that you can crash into and break los.
>>585876270It doesn't matter when an ace combat protagonist is present to delete both landships within 10 seconds.
>>585874424PS2 era ost (plus ac6) were utterly forgettable and I'm tired of pretending otherwise Air Combat and AC2 are betterBoth assault horizons are betterX and X2 are betterAC7 beats the absolute fuck out of them, and AC8 is only slightly worse than that which is still leagues above them
>>585874424>AC4 songsyou don't want this smoke bro, take off the nostalgia googles
>585877884bait used to be believable
According to the database website, these are the only planes mentioned in the game files.Combined with the Morgan, that's 6 planes in total. At 2 months each in a battlepass, that's a year of post launch support.I don't expect them to add any other plane besides these. The other leaks people mention are probably bs.
>>585878338A usea region game without X-02? Pfft, yeah right
>>585878338>F-14A -RZG-There's no fucking reason for this to exist, F-14A is dogshit, giving it a skin will not save it. At least give it to F-14D for the LAAMboat???
>>585878338I think it's likely they'll add some free (I mean, the costs zoll kind of free) planes in updates too. Every game that's designed around selling you shit also adds free things in updates to try and look less greedy.
>>585878757/aceg/ still hasn't figured out SAAM are jammer killers
>>585878757It'll probably have different stats. >At least give it to F-14D for the LAAMboat???Then again you are subhuman so that thought probably didn't occur to you.
>>585878757It will probably have a different spw loadout, but even if it doesn't, it's a way for people who havent preordered to get the F14A
Subhuman this, bait that.All I see here are borders, no buddies.
>>585878962If people stop acting like borders I'll treat them like buddies.
>>585878338but then where did this list come from?
>>585878934>It will probably have a different spw loadout>inb4 4AAM
Subhuman this, bait that.All I want is to sniff on Tewy's wheelchair seat right after I lay her to bed for the evening and I rest beside her.
>>585878757It's probably not a skin.Reminder that ACI had Razgriz F-14s that were 800 cost. In a game where the F-22 was 750 cost. Razgriz F-14 was the same tier as the fucking Wyvern.Also one of them actually did get LAAM too.
>>585879158Cope, you're dead. You don't have a nose.
>>585879158> << Have your fun down there, anon. I can't feel a thing. >>
>>585878757>F-14A is dogshitThat’s not very Top Gun of you.
>>585879112
>>585879112>pkfa >in the Felon eraIt's so clear to see this list is bullshit but you guys somehow missed this.
>>585879485that one's just a guess based on the file namehonestly I expected it to be another Top Gun connection, like how they split out the "5th-gen fighter" from the Su-57I thought it was just going to be that againanother option is that it's going to be an Su-57 variant skin, probably for Markov from AC:AH
>>585879112The same files they were found the same time as the variants
all taste is subjectivemusic, vidya, etc.but the objective truth is that the anons that shit up the threads are utter FAGGOTS, if you reply trying to say otherwise, you are said FAGGOT, and before you call me a FAGGOT, I AM A FAGGOT, so I beat you, FAGGOT!Post your favorite planes NOW!
>>585879709
>>585879794Based. My planefu since I was like five years old.
>>585879794sexo
>>585879709>try to talk about an opinion>if someone else disagrees with you persistently and retardedly enough, then it's also your fault now for having tried to share a thought in the first placeno
>>585879709The F-4, in all her variations.
>>585879709I’m sure there’s going to be a bunch of military planes posted, so I’ll post (one of) my civilian planefus.Shame it’s kind of not all that good
>>585880009we got a FAGGOT ovah here!
i kind of wish co op warfare wasn't a daily challenge because getting shit on by people with super planes is not very fun
>>585880236yeah I guess you are being pretty performative
>>585880274I have not played cope welfare since launch and all of the rumors surrounding it is not helping its case, you'll be fine missing its daily I think
>>585880447One day they're going add something good to the gacha and you'll regret not having saved up all the tickets from the dailies. You'll look at me with my giant pile of tickets and you'll feel regret.I mean I won't get what I want anyway because gacha a shit but still.
>>5858789628's release has made me want borders more than ever, AWWNB and Pixy were retards who lost. I want to remove Sotoans just as much as I want tourists and FAN glazers to go and stay gone. I want /vt/ to stay on their containment board. I want borders for online so points costs and young nuggets are segregated in order to keep things fun.
>>585880710They're called regular tickets for a reason. They will never give anything good. For that you'll need the special tickets
>>585880867Jungle skin is good
>>585880867Desert and Ocean tooAnd I like some of the I3 emblems
How do you kill toprak? Are the missiles scripted to miss everytime?
>>585881274Missiles are useless against him, it's guns only, just like how you do Sulejmani
>>585881274You can shoot your guns by pressing A (Xbox) or X (Playstation)
>>585881274Do you perhaps have any form of attack aside from missiles?
>>585879485Markov from AssHor specifically had his Felon marked as PAK-FA so it's probably that.
>>585878875Doesn't matter when you can just TLS people from within your own ECM bubble.
>>585881274>How do you kill toprak? Wait for him to slow down and/or pop flares, and then shoot him with your gun.>Are the missiles scripted to miss everytime?No, but it does have to be basically a perfect shot in order to hit him.Unless you're using SpWs like QAAMs or SASMs, don't expect to get more than maybe one or two missile hits in a fight with him, if any.
>>585881274If you're cool, guns. Standard missile, when he PSMs blast his cockpit, done and dusted.If you're lazy (like me), SASMs. He can't flare or PSM fast enough to avoid the blast zone completely.
>>585881376Guns are useless with gamepad
>>585881402we are not doing an AssH event bro
>>585881274GUNS GUNS GUNSOr just, like, SASM his ass
>>585881462better get to learning then
>>585881462They really aren't in 8.
>>585881663cool, but gamepad isn't mouse
>>585881452>when he PSMs blast his cockpit, done and dusted.God imagine doing all these cool dogfighting maneuvers then catching a 20mm round to the chest for it
>>585881737Dude, I can kill people using the fucking WASD keys using guns. Stop whining.
>>585881737I play on gamepad and started using guns a lot more in 8. They're way better than in 7.Use gunsight type B.
>>585881737your issue isn't the gamepad, it's pitch & roll controlstry the novice controls, or whatever they're calling it these days
>>585881462Ace Combat has always been a gamepad series and 8 has the best gunplay in the series, tied with 6. 6's gun was stronger and had a bigger hitbox, but being broken also made its gunplay less engaging that 8 with its long-lived tracers and unmarked targets/chain explosion mechanics.
>>585881912novice controls are only going to make it harder
>>585880808Cost limits wouldn't really help much since a lot of what makes a plane good is specials and abilities and cost isn't relevant to them. F-14D is much better than F-15J even though it's way lower cost. Mirage vs Su-35 is the same.The entire game needs a rebalance, really. And then maybe add cost limits.
To kill Toprak properly, target him first since he's the most troublesome, make your team formation disperse since their missiles with trigger their AI to dodge making you miss all of your gun shots. Your allies are more of a liability than help in this fight so try to fight these guys on places with a lot of enemies so they don't interfere.
kinda funny to have the player basically ignore guns all game then throw a boss at you that requires guns or a specific special weapon to beat
>>585883012good luck killing Ladon without guns
>>585883062thats what rockets are for
>>585883138if you can aim rockets then guns are no problem for you
>try type B gun>the circle just fucks off into nowhere
>>585883062whatladons get a big damage resist to guns, makes mission 15 on guns only pretty frustrating. easiest way to kill them is with simple missile/special missile spam.
This nigga is going to cry fighting Crimsons in PW
>>585883436PW has mouse control and I finished the game in the Spear
>>585883436The hitbox for guns in PW is really forgiving, it's part of why guns are so good in that game.
>>585883012It's not the game's fault you ignored guns. It never told you to do that.
>>585879709Love my baby girl
>>585883012>ignores gunsnigga
>>585883372>easiest way to kill them is with simple missile/special missile spam.Did you notice any pattern to how the Ladons' laser CIWS works? I've only played that mission once.Is it sort of random, or can you reliably overwhelm it with sheer spam, or some other way?
>>585884194>laser CIWSgetting both ladons to low health before killing one lets you skip the laser phase, since you can kill the second one before it deploys all its weapons. feels more consistent than dealing with a full health ladon, a solo ladon is also pulling more aerobatic maneuvers on top of using better weapons and ship survival doesn't matter.
>>585883012Guns are good as fuck in this game anon
>>585884042>>585883887>>585885009>implying I said I did however obviously most normie players did, hence the nerf
>>585883012dogfight mode QTEs put you so close to the target that your reticle is always up until they die. there's two of them before mission 28, one of which is also a toprak encounter where he's doing a PSM and presenting a fuckhueg target for you to shoot at. the only way they could make it more obvious that they want you to use your gun is if they had a "SHOOT THESE ASSHOLES" pop up on screen.not that it would have helped you, you strike me as the type who thinks a crab is a sun.
I feel like Ace Combat music peaked at the PS1 trilogy, for me at least. It's pretty fucking hard to beat that space synth and classic guitar & keys.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnZ_Gy-yWRYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQ8LmEIWyx4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gs6yseO7f4wI will say this though, the newer entries do the big climactic tracks much better, like Megalith, Zero, Regis Hortus Alti, etc. Also some of the regular battle music is crazy good, like Magic Spear and... uh idk Magic Spear is so fking good it's the only one I could name atm.
>>585879709F2D Banshee, specifically the big nose -3 / -4 variants that can equip sidewinders. I love straight wing gun jets
>>585885330Actually I'm the type that looks for yellow suns after the game tells me to
>>585879709I’ve planefu’d the Growler since AC5 came out
>>585886287ah, so you're the type that ignores to in-game dialogue or a briefing image, checks the pause screen because you can't remember simple instructions, and somehow mistakes red crabs for yellow suns
>>585881274Option 1: GunsOption 2: SASMOption 3: Continuous missile pressure. Break your bad habit of double tapping missiles at stuff. Grab a plane with two AA special weapons, watch your airspeed so that you never over shoot, and then just send a gradual but continuous stream of missiles after him>MSL>pause>MSL>Pause>HCAA>Pause>HCAA>Pause>QAAM>Pause>QAAM>pause>repeatHis flares and kulbits will always defeat your missiles, but there are limits to how frequently that he can do use those tricks. If you stay on his ass and keep the pressure on, then you will overwhelm his cooldowns and land some hits.
>cope says guns suckwhy do we let this faggot haunt us again?
>>585887495buddy, it's not my fault that players like yourself are so retarded you can't remember simple directions the game tries to beat you over the head with
>>585887682Why bother? He's just going to ignore everything but the game for whatever reason telling you the sun emblem is yellow yellow in the pause menu(that literally nobody ever checks). He's only here to be retarded and annoying on purpose.
>>585887565'Cause we're the custodian of the afterlife or some shit. Tewy asks us to "grant her people passage to Regis Hortus Alti". Meaning those S*ats enterefld their Heaven only by our permission. Rex might be the grim reaper.
>>585887682>>585887880So what directions should I listen to, the dialogue saying its a sun (doesn't describe its color) or the pause menu that describes it being yellow? How am I supposed to know to ignore the actual literal game lmao.Dunno why you niggers have a stick up your ass about an obvious oversight.
Uhhh I think that might be racism.... outside of /b/ :(
>>585888085>acknowledges it's an obvious oversight >stills makes dogshit posts about it Honestly, kill yourself.
With targets like these you dont need to worry about missing
>>585888085>obvious oversightproject aces can be retarded. you are also retarded. both can be true, and both are true.it's amazing to lack self-reflection to a degree that you can't understand how countless more people than you had no problem completing a simple mission objective. people like you are why obvious warning labels exist.
>>585888325I wasn't that Anon, I'm just mocking you for having an air of superiority over people getting confused at an oversight.>>585888534I did complete it after getting confused over the contradictory directions, thank you very much.
>>585888460I'll boot up PW every once in a while just to replay this mission.
Just dangling the treats in front of my face directly, huh?
>>585888319I actually got a warning for racism outside of /b/ today, I don't think I've seen one in years if ever.
>>585888582>after getting confused over the contradictory directionsNo you didn't you lying faggot. Kill yourself.
>>585888614launching a full barrage of MLAA's here is a thing of beauty
>>585888774Got banned for saying nigger a couple times actually.
lightly roasted schoolgirl
>>585888747>going to dogfight with rocket podsBased?
>the mercenary stare meme
>>585888774It's the only time I ever get banned and when and where they'll enforce it is completely arbitrary. You can spend months making the lowest quality blatantly trolling third world tier posts and jannies won't do shit but you'll get banned for the most inane "racism".
>>585888918Extremely. I love those jarheads.>>585889006Do you think they surrounded Kate like the seagulls from Finding Nemo and went 'Contract?' over and over?
That's a wack-ass hind gear.
>>585889174Could not be my Rafale M.
>>585888918APKWS rockets are used to kill drones. Certainly good enough to kill bombers
Bro my paintjob is wrinkling.
>>585889595>Yuktobanian production quality
And what's with the red-marked areas? DO NOT STEP areas?
>>585856020Love that goofy thing
>>585889771Cut here to remove panel for maintenance
Sure bro just fire your sideways missile. I don't care anymore.
>>585890091<<This is the way of the nomad.>>
>>585888582>I wasn't that Anon, I'm just mocking you for having an air of superiority over people getting confused at an oversight.NTA, but I'll sure as fuck shit on people being too dumb to follow mission objectives. They go over three cranes and a sun three times in like a minute and a half, idiots needing to consult a fucking pause screen because thet lack an attention span is ridiculous.
This base is cozy as fuck. We could all live there and bring kidnapped women from the mainland.
>>585888840This site would be distinctly improved if that happened more often.
>>585879709Nut was my fave in DCS and she's still my fave IRL and in AC. She just does everything
>>585889116
>>585890484Not very Wings of you
>>585890091You should see what the real fox2s can do. R-73s off the rail are wild
Here's your "Wings" bro
kate is way hotter than tasha
>>585891164Here's what a magic 2 looks like
>>585891207Kei mogging victims
>>585891230Magics are sweet. They just do crazy flips behind you like 73s. Magics are faster though.
>>585891345why didnt she hop in a plane and defend her spaceport
>>585891345Same VA plays my wife in every game she shows up in
>>585891345i miss this stylized anime CGI so much its unreal
>>585891230>>585891353I think that's MICA-IR. Magic 2s are limited to 30 degrees off boresight, and the way that whipped around it's gotta have TVC.
>>585891726My point of reference is war thunder, and I could believe it pulling that hard off the rail could be a magic or a sidewinder. The thrust vectoring missiles like R-73s are crazier. When they work. They sperg out and backflip to death sometimes in war thunder.
>>585891967alright man
>>585891447she's just waiting for Blaze to regain his touch but he's been a mellow coward since the war ended 20 years ago, she's going around the front lines to goad him into action again, we know how that goes.
>>585886313Those little fan turbines on the nerd pods are so cute
>>585891164Always wondered, is the shot that 22 pulls off to merk you in the prologue actually possible irl?
>>585892443The R-74, and the R-73 before it, are missiles with thrust vectoring engines. So they can orient themselves and engage a target from a post-stall position. They also have their targeting slaved to the pilot's head mounted display. So if the pilot is capable of looking at you while he's doing his flip, then he can shoot his missile at you.Whether or not it hits you is a bit more questionable. It's a non-ideal position to launch a missile from, and it's going to be slow to accelerate to say the least. It's possible that the missile might not be able to make the intercept if the target was staying fast. Those missiles are probably the best ones of "knife fight in a phone booth" situations where you and the opponent are entangled in an acrobatic gunfight. I'd rather use sidewinders or magics if I'm shooting at targets beyond gun range.
Some of these named aces are on some bullshit, man.
>>585893508fat fuck
You always think these things are the size of pet bottles but it turns out they massive.
The R60 is probably the only aircraft missile you could physically pick up and move with.
Kono...I beg you...
>>585854738I liked coster because hes a sperg like me
>>585894036is that sandy desert on that billboard meant to represent the dearth of customers?
>>585894746>Neucomslop
>>585894227seeker head looks like its full of cum lol
>>585863995Leftover from when savia broke away from Erusea probably
>>585878338>-TRI-Maybe I'm dumb, but what even is that? I understand all the others.
>>585895192Trigger
>>585869262She doesn't even have a character model, only a portrait in a corner, of course she's losing
>>585895234when the fuck did bro own an ADF-11
>>585895234Oh, duh. Maybe it just threw me off cuz it's not like it's "his" plane like the others. If that's the case then they're gonna do 2 AC7 passes? Kinda weird beans.
>>585872226Tasha, but only after the end of the war when she grows up they realize the real nature of their feelings
>soundtrack hasnt been releasedsoundtrack hasnt been releasedDLC confirmed
>>585878338>Trigger raven (he never piloted the thing)>No Milhay X-02S (Cause kono needs to jerk off sukhoi)Im honestly disappointed
tasha a shitcoster a loser
>>585895629>jackpot 9 seething
>>585895534The 'Magenta Vortex' jibe segueing perfectly into "That's what she's called when she has bed hair" had me fucking cackling.
there are a total of 4 nipple piercings among the Endurance crewwhere are they?
>>585895798all on jenkins
>>585895789if only this were an M-rated game, that line could've gotten an actually-good follow-up
>>585895798There's that number again.
>>585895798Nameless spy
>>585895798Two on XO and two on Dealer. Matching pairs.
i wish they went further with cope being a numbers autist and predicting the future, couldve lead to cool moments where we fuck off to the other side of the map while everyones on comms wondering if we're deserting where we're actually wiping out the guys remote controlling land battleship 3 or somethingthough thats probably better for a spinoff title, probably a bit late in the series to introduce undeniable magic
>the faces of Rex and Baxter's Prowler crews when they bail out over Rio Bajo and leave them to die of exploding
>>585896160Pilot ejection activates that of everybody else. Shame their seats all malfunctioned...
>>585896043I still don't know what the fuck that was all about, they didn't address it at all.
>>585896313i swear they also had the numbers thing in the credits for the zero hour thing so it mustve been a bigger plot pointwhy cant PA write a story without having 300 different loose ends
>>585896043>>585896313I guess it was precognition of how bad the initial Theve op would go but it almost feels like an abandoned plot point with how quick it's dropped afterwards.
>>585896387I suspect that the supernatural stuff would have had a more substantial role in the game, but the devs had doubts about whether or not people would like it. So they had to cut things down and recalibrate the subplot for a more emotional aspect of Cope's search for Tewy.
Can't wait for Project Wingman 2 to have an EA-6B so Monarch can have three wives in the cockpit
>>585896693>cant hear the mission dialogue over your 3 wenches making out next to you>have to pull 50gs to shut them up
>>585896604>>585896387>>585896313Any chance that DLC might reveal the "it was all a simulation" card? I haven't played 3 or 7, so I don't know all of the coffin shit that I see people talking about.Maybe Cope was a literal coping mechanism for being stuck in fighter pilot groundhogs day. The numbers were echoes of memories from previous iterations of the simulation. But this cycle was special and you advanced further than any time before. The numbers stopped because you stopped retreading old ground and started experiencing new content.
>ghosts are real>heaven is real>ghosts have some weird precgonitive powers>all pilots go to heavenThis has been one heavy entry in Strangereal. I wonder when they'll confirm aliens.
Why are the French so angry at the japanese on twitter? It wasn't that upsetting to not get nominated.
>>585897420>"French"
>>585897420>the Frenchcheck their profiles / post locationsit's brown migrants in and around France (who are used to receiving endless deference whenever they make demands) vs. Japanese people who are already sick of their own handful of brown migrants (and who refuse to be deferential, which just makes the online migroids angrier)
>>585894746Delete the icecream scoop
Friendslop game in a gigantic bomber like the XB-0
>>585898103but it needs its airhow else will it breathe?
>>585897676How the fuck is this /pol/shit even related to Ace Combat?
>>585898259how is /pol/ not related to Ace Combat? Look at Baxter, look at Pixy.
>>585898259idk, ask the guy who asked about itI'm just answering the question
>>585895534Why does it look like she is bending over to touch her toes in one of those images? Did she piss off Kate that much?
>>585897420The french get angry over everything. Any time the question is "why are they mad?" is because they're french. Their only other response is smug condescension.
>>585898589because she's stretchinggotta stay limber, duh
>>585897195Nah it's not that deep.Here's a summary Ace Combat 3 JP (highly recommended you play it, it's a fantastic game in general, fan translations have been available for years):The year is 2040. Most of Usea's (keeping in mind AC3 was made before Strangereal was established, so USEA was "United States of Eruo-Asia", but it's been grandfathered into Strangereal since) nations have lost all real sovereignity as mega corporations have effectively taken over the continent, namely General Resource and Neucom, who now basically wield unchecked powers equivalent to that of global superpowera.GR's ace pilot Abyssal Dision was in a relationship with a GR scientist named Yoko Martha Inoue, who was researching something called "Sublimation", the conversion of a human mind into a self-aware AI, known as a "Dead Copy". On the day Yoko was making a Dead Copy of Dision, GR had sent a secret squad to assasinate Yoko and shut down the Sublimation project in fear it might snowball into something truly crazy. This resulted in the death of both Yoko and Dision. However, the AI/Dead Copy Dision, who is by all rights a fully-realized individual, had survived.A colleague of Yoko, Simon Cohen, who had a long-time crush on her, went mad at the news of her death, and swore vengeance on Dision, thinking her involvement with him had put her in danger (just a cuck cope). So Simon went about to train a Z.O.E.-like AI, "Nemo", to find and "kill" the Dead Copy Dision. That training occured within a virtual environment simulation, and it is THIS simulation that is the events of Ace Combat 3, which is supposed to be the big twist at the end of the game. Once the simulation training was finished, Simon released Nemo out into the world.This all has nothing to do with Ace Combat 7 or 8 *so far*."COFFIN" is the new, standard cockpit system in the Electrosphere era, it uses direct neural input from the pilot to control the plane. Tewy's X-40 uses a prototype of this system.
>>585898769that would be true if it were actually them
>>585898809>the AI/Dead Copy Dision, who is by all rights a fully-realized individualthe FUCK he is
>>585895534New Tasha reaction.
>>585899169I want to bury my face in Kate's exhaust nozzle if you catch my drift
>>585899070Lol as they say, the condition for sentience/spaience is suffering, and DC-Dision does in fact suffer.
give me the Su-37 with the wingtip ECM pods it was modelled with before 7
>>585897676
>>585899294who says that
>>585900212>denial
>>585897195>>585898809i'm probably wrong here because i don't pay too much attention these days but is it just me or does it seem like it's a trend with japanese games headed by older developers now where they don't really bother creating twists anymore? another example would be mgs5. i remember before it came out everybody had all these crazy theories about this or that thing and when the game came out there was none of that. it was a pretty straightforward game. it's like these older developers just don't want to take narrative risks like the true ending of ac3 anymore
>>585900431I feel like most media these days don't do "twists" anymore overall.
>>585900250By Allah, you are chained to spite. May you be graced with motivation, so that you may actually take up a French history class, fail, and be stuck with serious debt and crippling depression.
>>5858728585th gens are the pinnacle of having no soul. I'd much rather have obscure prototype shit from the 80s than nondescript mystery meat F-35 copy number 3456And my god the J-20 is a fucking abomination
It will never be a thing irl but will it ever be in ace combat?
>>585900212nta but he's 100% right. i follow french politics and the social state of france somewhat closely and it's absolutely a fact that the fault of france's current situation lies with the leftists who are hellbent on importing as many african and middle eastern immigrants as humanly possible because they hate france. this sounds insane but one of the leading politicians, an extreme socialist called melenchon, has openly stated that he wants to make french people extinct through racemixing. all you have to do is look at who's rioting and which flags are being waved and it's pretty consistent every single timealso of the past 30 or so people on twitter i've seen posting under french flags who have been insulting the japanese in the ongoing twitter war, all of them have african/arabic names. do with that information what you will
wow no even a month after release and we're already dying again
>>585902837Hi DCSchizo, nothing to do on a workday?
>>585903258working from home which gets boring when the only general I browse these days is inactivehaven't played DCS in something like 5 years btw
Thoughts on the f-15j in online?
>>585903785a shitIf you want an Eagle, fly C if you want to dogfight or E if you want to bomb
>playing AC7 for the first time>doing my damndest to get S-Rank on first playthough>mostly all As>Have to restart from checkpoint once in mission 7 because holy fuck turbulence and lightning>S RankWasn't expecting this game to NOT penalize you from using checkpoints like 8 did, although 6 was like this too if my short term memory isn't complete dog shitI'm liking this one a lot, I can see why it gets praised so often.
>>585903785Its a bit more maneuverable F-15C due to the ability but with bad SPW
>>585857046I love it too but that's because I think the Shinden was the coolest thing to come out of WW2.
>>585904526IIRC it penalizes you by adding your failed attempts timer to your total time.
>>5859045267 is praised mostly because it was a decent return to form after the series had seemed dead for years. It's a fine game but 8 is better in pretty much every aspect.
>>585904868good to know, still I'm surprised with how proactive I've been with doing things quick and doing lots of damage, I seem to always be slightly below the s-rank requirement for most of the missions more than any of the previous entries at this point. I don't mind replaying to satiate my autism, but it wasn't expected.
>>585904984Honestly I think what's winning me over is the tinge of edge and the focus on your wingmen being bottom of the barrel prison inmates, the level variety seems interesting so far too, but probably still too early to say anything, I think visually 8 still stands out no contest, gameplay feels the same, that's all my input for rn.
>Rafale >Su 35SEither of these good online?
>>585905270The penal squadron thing is such a retarded concept but at the same time pretty cool, something only Ace Combat could pull offHey I'm not saying 7 isn't a great game, it has plenty of good stuff going for it. Just that 8 is a direct upgrade in all departments and I'm thankful it doesn't have anything as annoying as the sandstorm mission in 7
>>585905454>RafaleNot bad>Su 35SBad
>>585905454Rafale has an excellent loadout in AC8. Can be a LAAM or LACM boat which is pretty good for farming even if there are planes that do that job better.SU35 is let down by its loadout and a hard avoid.>>585905270>>585905549AC7 is basically a bunch of half baked ideas all strung together. The penal squadron idea could have been way more fun if it had more time in the oven. As it stands the execution was beyond fucking retarded especially when it would be evident beyond any doubt that Trigger did not shoot the President.
>>585906162Might get the Rafale then. Still need a 1500 plane for the challenges.
>>585905270>Honestly I think what's winning me over is the tinge of edge and the focus on your wingmen being bottom of the barrel prison inmates, the level variety seems interesting so far too
get sasm'd get sasm'd get sasm'd get sasm'd
>>585906654>>585906371>>585905549okay the penal squad ios retarded, more than most goofy AC story premises, but I enjoy it in spite of the silliness.I like the IDEA of the weather obstacles, but they feel a bit overkill and with more care and consideration, they probably could've been more interesting than "you can't see shit and your plane is now shifting ever so closely to death, have a drone on your ass retard", but I think the next entry could re-implement these ideas with better care.
Why do I have to go to the store to buy blueprints instead of doing it from here? Why do I need to buy blueprints instead of just paying extra zoll? Why do blueprints even exist? Why is this game so badly designed? Why?>>585906371Rafale is notably much worse as a LAAM plane than might be expected. Normal LAAM spammers are fighters with the air damage ability, and Rafale is a multirole without it. So the damage is way worse.It has air damage as its seventh ability so maybe one day that'll be unlocked somehow and it'll totally rock though. There are a few planes that'll get way better if they ever unlock those last abilities.
>>585907049don't worry, the game will change...
>>585883012>kinda funny to have the player basically ignore guns all gameExcept it dosen't there are a lot of fights that may not require guns but the guns make them easier. Ladons, Calerno and the Transport planes for example
>>585883012>have the player basically ignore guns all gameYour AWACS reminds you to use guns to save missile ammo during annihilation missions and you often get ground tgts neatly packed in a straight line for you to strafe easily.
You will NEVER guess what happened.HVAA only, to boot
>>585892120Nigga did you forget that Kei was a peacenik she probably never wants to fight ever again
The glass canopy really completely fucks the Game's visuals compared to the og dart-like profile.
>>585895798Coster and D.D.
For a world where major intercontinental conflicts occur at least once a decade, there sure are a lot of pacifists joining the military thinking they'll get a free ride.
Also canards on the bottom are wild.
>>585908097It's 'cause they're precursors, just like the Morgan looking fucky because it's trying to be an earlier version of a good looking superplane. It's always the canopy that ruins the aesthetic. Oh well. Hopefully they'll put the real thing in as an upgrade to them.
>>585908215Yeah, AC3 likes bizarre tech demonstrators even more than the typical Ace Combat game.
>>585908509
>>585908302Precursors my ass. ACX already had protocoffins that didn't rape the plane's silhouette.
AC3's coffin versions of real life jets look like shit.
>>585909236i like the Su-37 Super Flanker
>>585909236Mig 33 disagrees
The AC3 F-15S/MTD looks better than its real life counterpart, and the Berkut too, there I said it.
pilots, how were the early /aceg/ threads like...
>>585910690Non-existent
>Patch indefinitely delayed for an issue that took a day to fix>Never even bothered to try doing the scuffed dev stream againWhat the fuck man
>>585911217There's a possibility the patch being delayed means it has to go through console certification again so that's holding it up.No excuses for not trying the stream again though.
The ideal low-altitude close range bomber.
>>585911217>>585911401Stream would mean playing the MP again and even the devs don't deserve that amount of suffering.
>>585911464I think it's more ideal when it's not on fire.
>>585907107Bro press F1
>>585911639Pic related would be more upsetting to Rex.
>>585911524I'm still bummed out the online turned out the way it did. I was so prepared to dump an irresponsible amount of time and money into it but since I hit 100 on my BP I haven't queued for a single match.I hope they figure something out.
>>585911835Someone has been monitoring these threads?
They should add the F-100A with historically accurate landing complications if you pick it for a mission with a landing sequence, and an achievement called Sabre Danced for surviving it.
>>585911835>launch at LB>ricochet
I'm disappointed that the one time this series has a mid air refueling go wrong, it doesn't lead into a mission right after where you're racing the clock to fight off bandits before you run out of fuel, I feel that would make for a cooler mission premise.
>>585909236I think it really depends on the airframe. Some look like total shit, some look absolutely fucking magnificent.
>>585911401I wouldn't be surprised if the delay is "may as well roll it into the bigger update"
>>585911927Same but given their track record and lack of communication on the matter I remain pessimistic. >>585911969Sotoa should be forced as part of war reparations have it become their trainer aircraft.
>>585912176lollmao
>>585912303I'm not saying it'll be big, but bigger than "we tweaked ECM slightly"
>>585912147Yeah but they needed an excuse to have Baxter call a Sotoan the n- word to their face. Definitely agree could have been handled in a lot more interesting way
>>585912332lollmaoXD, evenroflmao, perhaps.
Have you considered the possibilities of... COFFIN Phantom?
>>585912432hot damn sign me upslap some canards on it as well, why not
Damage Scalinghttps://imgur.com/a/NIvBqauMSL+: Directional Proximity Fuze (MSL)MSL++: 2 parts
I hear that B.Tan has HUGE boobs. Kate keeps seething about them.
>>585913045Interested.
>>585908136>war breeds pacifistsWhy is this surprising?
>>585912504I seriously cannot get over how fucked the Foxhound's stats are. Highest speed, incredible maneuverability, takes as many or more hits than an attacker to down, has BOTH long range and short range meta SpW. Either someone on the team is jorkin their penits nightly to MiG-31 pictures or the most absurd comedy of errors happened in trying to assign it a role during development.
>>585913484>Highest speed, incredible maneuverability, takes as many or more hits than an attacker to downIt's one of the slowest fighters at lvl 20, it's manoeuvrability is only ~okay~ and its health is nothing special.NPC Foxhounds have always taken 3 hits in AC games for some reason, they just have buffed health.
>>585913484I think LAAMs might be straight up bugged. I'm certain I saw them ignore flares at least once.
>>585912432>mind controlled MGPs and UGBs
>>585913768I've seen LAAMs and SAAMs straight up teleporting under IEWS. It's incredibly fucky.
>>585913484My schizo theory is that the Gripen and 31 somehow got their stats switched. Only way to explain why the Gripen is the fastest Fighter at 20 and the 31 turns like it does
>>585913786>whispers start making the rounds about a Phantom appearing out of nowhere, shredding an aircraft or two with 4x chained MGP, then dodging missiles at impossible AoA before disappearing back into the cloudswould give substantial funds to this idea
>>585913754>NPC Foxhounds have always taken 3 hits in AC games for some reason, they just have buffed health.Playground rules I think. The Mig-31, A-10, and SU-34 are all "big" planes and therefore get to shrug a hit like the endgame NPC planes get toThe real question is why the Frogfoot gets cucked out of this group in 8
>>585911720Yeah, I did, but that's another transition to the store. Why can't I do it from that screen? And again, why do I need to go through the step of turning zoll into blueprints instead of just spending the zoll outright?I know this is a minor thing compared to all the other problems online has but still.
>>585908136Yeah but for each one of those you end up getting a bunch of mad lads like the Immortals who keep wanting to die in battle but can't.
>>585913768>>585913869That's just Bamcode being Bamcode. Hitreg is client-side, not server-side, so as long as it hit on their screen, what you saw don't mean shit.
>>585914290Isn't rhe immortals thing just tongue-in-cheek? Like "haha that darn pilot just won't let us die, guess we gotta keep doing our jobs" sorta thing.
>>585905454>>585906387The Rafale is bait, anon. It's a good weapons platform for PvE content but not much else. In PvP, the fucking Mirage outperforms it in a dogfight.
rafale's refueling probe is an ahoge btw
>>585914438It started off genuine but ended like that
It makes no sense that you should be able to shoot down an ace like Shadow 22 with braindead missile spam. It makes sense that you need to either time the missiles really well or get on his ass with the gun.
>>585914571I guess that makes sense. Survivor's guilt is a hell of a thing.
>>585914863Sorry, I can't hear you over my SASM spam and Shadow 22's exploding plane.
Now that the dust has settled, what was the point of giving bombers 3 lock on targets instead of 1?
>>585914883I choose to believe they volunteered to deal with the big Sotoan bulge on the mainland fully expecting to die only to come out of it a few weeks later covered head to toe in blood and disappointed that they somehow survived.
>>585916472So that there even more targets to spam the switch target button on
>>585916472Shoot engines. They crash into the other bombers.
>>585916472You can kinda control which way they fall when you destroy them, useful for chain kills.
>>585916472Showing off the new plane destruction and collateral damage tech
>>585914863>fire SAAM>take radar off him for 1 second>his brain malfunctions and he forgets how to dodgetopkek indeed
>>585917426<< That was a good lesson on the importance of manual control. >>
>>585917426This works against other players too btw.
>>585917426These Sotoans are so inept, nearly takes all the honor out of victory!
>>585917426Wait I don't get it, did you do something to glitch his AI?
>>585917778I think they become stupid when not being locked on
>queue warfare>it's another ea-36 + fa-36 episodeThey need to add a cost limit already.
>>585910690Before AC7 and PW, fuckin dead and full of spite and doomerism. Only kept alive by a handful of necro posts since the board wasn't infested with gacha threads back then.
>>585881274Have him in ESM range target one of the other shadows he'll come near you to try and bait you but the AI will go total retard and just die like a mook plane to 4aam fire.
>>585919253>Be bad>Cry and shitpost
its fucking insane to me that people will sit there and launch 150 missiles at topkek for half an hour and not bother once to just shoot him
>>585919676I didn't even know guns were required. I just would wait for him to flare before dumping QAAMs and LAAMs into him.
>>585919586Cope and theve. Shitposts will continue until ecm gets nerfed into irrelevancy.
>Destroy Chandelier too fast>Mission breaks and never spawns the final core target
>>585920061>CPU playersWonder if it actually has something to do with that?
>>585920061I have done chandelier with 3 MGP su-25s, the cooling units were evaporated instantly, I don't think it's speed.
>>585919676First time I shot down Topkek I legit did it by accident as I was trying to shoot someone else down with guns.
Well, /aceg/?
>>585920861NO
>>585920861YES
>>585920861whooo let da dawgs fly?
>>585888034Nah Tewy was in max LARP mode and her ego was in full I am the wind nothing can beat me>Dies to an F-18CHe must be the reaper its the only thing that makes sense no mortal could beat me.
>>585920918
>3 LAAMers doing the exploit for effectively double LAAMI'm ready for the Infinity difficulty spike of shoving jammers into everything already.
>>585891447NGL I was fully expecting a black F-14A to show up in M28 when you hear planes from Comona show up to join you.
>>585913316GOD i miss pre-hybrid f1 cars so FUCKING much
>>585921776>>585891447What do you think happened to the other 800 planes that were supposed to be coming?
>>585921801me too, buddy
I'm a dirty little migger :(
>>585920861i'm convinced that people who hate, not dislike but hate, final option are impatient zoomers
lmao
>>585922024/hugi wonder what the upcoming v8 turbo hybrid era has in store for us
>>585920293I also had that happen once and there were no bots in my game.>>585920351I had some MGP guys with me and we did kill the cooling units faster than I've ever seen before. It might be related even if it doesn't happen every time.
>>585922110Decisive Path is a perfect mission if you're playing through the entire campaign, combat breather that keeps some tension. It is, however, not very good when judged solely as a standalone in mission select.
>>585922397they will somehow fuck it all up, knowing f1 management
>>585922116I'm guessing the extra juice means something like triple range, 1000% radius, kills Podarge in one tick, right?
>>585921801PA should make a not-F1 Ridge Racer spinoff with those very cars.
>>585920293>>585922440CPUs also steal points to rob you of S-ranks in multiplayer, so I could totally see a CPU getting a lucky last hit and that somehow means it doesn't progress to the next segment.
>>585912432For several years yes
>>585922593
>>585919253It's basically impossible to get games without one these days, everyone who doesn't want to play one has already moved on.
>>585919676I took out most of his squad with guns, but Topkek himself died because I got so close my missile just ran into him off the rail when he pulled his flippy shit
Needs romance desu
>>585922816>9000Should've gone 1m more.
Not even close baby
>>585922116The mod scene for 8 is kind of a joke desu
>>585922961I had one of those 1hp victories too in the DLC
>>585922816PA should unironically do this so the TLS isn't completely worthless online.
>>585922982Game hasn't been out long. Give it time. Though it's not like all the stupid fucking cheat mods are unique to ac8. Especially with the advent of AI assistance all the chinks and retards are shitting these out constantly for most games.
>>585923142A good TLS Morgan is already absolute turbocancer to fight in Online without any TLS buffs, I fucking dread what will happen when the inevitable PSM-capable EML spam planes make their appearance.
>>585923142lol, lmao even.
>>585919253I use ea-36 once per day in warfare so people can leave me the fuck alone
>>585923317You stop playing PvP and stick to PvE only
>>585923229>Especially with the advent of AI assistance all the chinks and retards are shitting these out constantly for most gamesPartially why I have no hope for the mod scene. Don't particularly have faith in morons more interested in crapping something out for clout instead of actually understanding what they're doing
>>585923142TLS Morgan is stupid on kb+m. On gamepad it'a uselesa.
>>585923142Profound retardation or bait, it's hard to tell these days.
How do I look around on keyboard?
>>585922498motorsport in general is becoming extremely boring so i guess that's to be expected
Has anyone SEEN an emergency sortie lately?? I haven't had one for a week
>>585924057>menu>social>party settings>search for partyThen just set the mode to Emergency sortie and refresh for 3 minutes.
>>585923142
>>585924057All of mine have been against the Arsenal Bird, I'm getting tired of it.
>people unironically swap to kb/m and novice controls to tlsI get that online games are all about metaslaves nowadays but like, why do you even play ace combat at that point? Go play meta in league of legends or something.
>>585924159More people seem to have figured this out so it's getting pretty hard. Parties fill nearly instantly so you need to be very fast to make it in before all the slots get taken, even if you are sitting there spamming search and doing nothing else.The devs really need to do something about the gold blueprints shit. It's awful design.
>>585924683Because hypermeta champs in LoL get banned and still only achieve a 55% winrate while a double KBM Morgan team in ACO should win every single game unless they run into another double Morgan team.
Metafags are genuinely not human.
Do you reckon Sotoa and the Pacific Federation would get along for their love of warcrimes
>>585925808this game is so orange I love it
>>585925808Sotoa wishes they could commit warcrimes on the level of the Federation.
>>585925808PF are closer to Belka since they nuked their own lands to deny it to the enemy.
>>585925808Crimson 1 and Topkek would most likely become best bros if they met
i'm gonna level with you brosi have no idea how anyone can keep up with the story and the dialogue and narrative stuff in each level when there's so much shit going on
>>585925917orange you glad for the coloration
>>585916472Annoying you if you load multilock AA spw
>>585926002you get used to tuning warnings and stuff out
>>585926002You hear more as you replay the game since you're familiar with the other shit that's going on.
>>585916472We got rid of multilock missilesWe add multi target boxes to bombers insteadWould have it have killed them to add a line of code that says multi lock missiles will only lock onto a single box on a bomber?
>>585926382i've seen people here and on youtube understand the story fully on the first playthroughi guess they just have better focus than i do
>>585925026If only we could ban planes in online too
>>585926002>Ray can I ...[Rail gun warning]>What do you say?Yes/No
>>58592600290% of it is irrelevant, like most of schizo island
>>585926476Most everything related to the story is told in cutscenes, not during battle. Battle chatter is more flavour and characterisation.
>>585924890More people doing it means that more people get more sorties though.
>>585926760Yeah, that's the good part. But it made me pretty unhappy repeatedly being too slow even though I was searching nonstop and trying to join the moment I saw a party pop up.Seriously, they need to fix this. Having half the lobby sitting in party finder spamming search instead of actually playing is stupid. It's the best way to get gold blueprints so it's no surprise people are doing it, but it's stupid. They need to fix their game so that's not the optimal way to level planes.
>>585919253>dailies require warfare>whatever>just crash into the ground and tab out>dailies complete
>>585926002AC is THE ADHD game of excellence.If you play it a lot you'll get used to it. I even forgot this problem existed until i saw the recent AC8 streams of people that become completely overwhelmed, even if they are "above average" at flying they could never follow the story kek
>>585927093Flood that much area just to fire missiles that seems like a bad design choice
>>585926382Some of the more sandbox missions seem to have different dialogue depending on what you deal with first and was amazed what I was picking up on in a fresh playthrough. I know that the bit about Tasha asking Baxter what happened to the dinosaurs for example only really happens if you attack Newfield Island via the West as attacking via the East doesn't seem to trigger it in that mission.
>>585926002My first playthrough I didn't notice a single line of the sotoans getting auschiwtz'd in the land ovenship
>>585927727You have to be very slow in the last phase to hear those lines. Otherwise if you just drop a few UGBs on it the mission will end and you'll never hear them getting cooked alive.
>>585927469It's not much area at all, it's probably smaller than you think. It's basically a submarine that's fitted around the VLS cells.
>>585927849It actually kind of sucks, because that whole sequence is perfect horror.
>>585927093One mirrion rives!!
>>585927093No way that is a viable design but still I hope they make it.
>>585927350you auto respawn tho
>>585927918The alicorn also suffers from this because it's too easy to sink it by just getting rid of the ballast tanks.
>>585926002I found the chatter kind of mild compared to playing other flight sims where you have bitchin betty or rita screaming>MISSILE WARNING>LOCK!>ALTITUDE>STALL>PULL-UP>RETARD>OVER-G>MISSILE>MISSILE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!>Bingo-fuel24/7
>>585927849Should have been a way to disable the ship with the player given the opportunity to put them out their misery or let the bastards burn.
>>585928249>RETARDI'M TRYING MY BEST PLEASE
>>585927727>>585927849>watch a streamer play that mission>the crew boil alive>for the next several minutes we hear the captain's speech play on auto-recorded loop.things you never notice if you are good at planes games.
Once you've been to Prospero you'll never want to stop caving in Federation skulls
>>585926002As another anon said, actual ADHD.
>>585928362I suspect that you might already know this, but in this context "retard" is to slow down. Like in retarded bombs (pic related).
>>585928249I might be extremely autistic but I find all of those alarms blaring at me really cool. I wish there were more of them in Ace Combat.
>>585928398You do get some fun dialogue for doing good as well, which is nice.I like how much chatter is in this game
>>585928652this the bitching selena in ac8 was pretty midi liked the voiceover in ac7 more
>>585928362>>585928592
>>585928937'bit rude
>>585928652I don't speak russian. In war thunder, Rita shouts those warnings at me in russian non-stop. I've managed to reach the point where I recognize the russian babble that means:>bingo fueland what I'm pretty sure is>damn nigger. I said bingo fuel a minute ago. You're fucked now. I hope you enjoy bailing out.They sound something like "rabish vojratta" and the second one I couldn't begin to spell but I have an idea in my head of the tune of the syllables.
>>585929369>rubezh razvarotathe turnaround point
>>585927275They want to retard levelling speed, I wouldn't be surprised if gold blueprints stop being a real limiting factor once they actually start running events and shit because they give you loads during them.
>>585929369I never got far enough in War Thunder to get the planes with alarm systems, Jap Sabre was the highest tier plane I had. Every time I feel like playing that dog shit game again I get a quick reminder why I quit.
>>585929751Plane leveling being measured in weeks is not a satisfying way to do that.
>>585929994I'm frequently tempted to play War Thunder again because shooting down planes while listening to weeb music was one of the highlights of my gaming life, and then I remember it is run by a greedy company that's only gotten worse since I left.
>>585930291Such a shame its pretty much the only game of it's kind. Theres virtually 0 competition so they can shit on the players as they see fit.
>>585928512>Like it or not, your children will be in the FederationWHAT THE FUCK DID Eye-Tee mean by this?
>>585930063How many planes are you trying to level to 20? I basically picked 1 high end plane and a couple of low tier workhorses for Sorties and I still had enough to dabble the su-34 to 15 with gold blueprints to spare, and lots of stuff at 10 that didn't cost golds just in case they turn out to be useful later.
>>585930656I got the EA-36, Typhoon, and Su-34 to level 20. That's 150 golden tickets but you get at least 130 from just the battlepass and various milestone challenges.
>>585930656Does it matter? Artificial limitation is fucking gay and lame.
>>585931095Artificial insemination though is the way of the future.
>>585927880Its not a very big boat but that is still about half the subs total body.
>>585928398She was a little busy crashing into the Lighthouse again and again along with having trouble hitting those last couple of vents..
Getting another one to the deck standby...
>>585930291>>585930498I have to start playing it later, i've been breathing only Ace Combat for the last month but i need to grind the fucking retarded event vehicle they put in now I got FOMO'd again
Clear for takeoff>>585932946>>585932946>>585932946>>585932946
>>585929369*sensible_chuckle.gif*
