NEET edition>Demo DaysNEXT: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-71Previous: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-70>AGDG Resourceshttps://hackmd.io/SNd2YQugRG-36CLYc8Og2w>Progress Posting Guidehttps://pastebin.com/0xEt5atn>Helpful LinksNew Threads:>>>/vg/agdg>>>/g/gedg>>>/bant/agdgArchive: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/subject/agdg//agdg/ Steam Games: https://made-by-agdg.vercel.app/>How to WebMhttps://obsproject.comhttps://github.com/argorar/WebMConverter>Previous Thread>>585853262
proggy anchor
>>585896772I use to wear anchors like that
Gonna make millions of this. Fuck all yall lol
>>585896875trawling the harbors for navy cock eh?
>>585896875>that human modellel ai still cant do 3d can it
>>585896908False flag from the tranny
>>585896772https://store.steampowered.com/app/5247930/Goodbye_Mr_Sato/game almost done..... call me a faggot, jeetclone it, do whatever.. im so tired of everything..
>>585897012Games don't sell if they don't have a video trailer
>>585896928No. I was just in the navy
>>585896001>5% RETRODATED tax on anyone with $1b on Jan 1 2026 but voted on in Nov 2026KEK! I wonder how many people in California would move away if they knew they were GMI just so they don't get their earnings taxed away. Imagine living there and the moment your realize your game is GMI that you need to move away asap before release.
>>585897054trailer is coming... I just published the page,...
>>585896994>tranny tranny tranny tranny!!!
>>585894971ultra expensive mansions aren't really part of the overall housing market
>>585897012looks like hot crap but gratsheres some advice delete the first image on the store page or move itput this image first if your not gonna listen to >>585897054
Change the thumbnail. If you are actually tired, change the thumbnail and the art. >i spent my time , money and effort devving this>but i won't spend 15 minutes doing a thumbnail and like 1 hour doing the art.Change it. I will question your morality you little bitch but don't let normie cattle know it's a AI shart in the first 0.1 second
>>585897212>looks like hot crapthanks. care to tell me why switch the images? and I will upload a video, you can't even sell the game / pass the build review without one... not a matter of listening to some fag here or not
>>585897257meant for this, sorry i'm just a beaner, i can't function without a white man whipping me. >>585897012
HNGH YEAH THERE IT IS FUCK YESSS THE RESET
>>585897012>Is this ai genned dogshit?
>>585897279it just looks more salary man. if i want a nip sim i'd like that picthe first one you have now is too bloody and strange your suppose to ease people into it
>>585897431yeah makes sense. appreciate the opinion anon.. ill change it..>>585897389your mother is ai genned dogshit, faggot.. and no, it snot..
>>585896950There is no human model, that's a capsule stand in
>>585897474youre right it looks worse than ai pixel artkek
>>585897545show me your art nigger. oh, right..
>>585897486post gameplay saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar>capsulesaar yes it is prototype i do not haev game play sar
>>585897474I think it looks good, anon. Ignore the retard trying to shit up the threads
>>585897621>
>>585897012where's the AI disclosure?
>>585897621thanks bud.. and yeah idgaf man, my life is shit and ive been in this dump since forever... some nodev faggot is nothing more than entertainment to me..
>>585897573Get fucked, retard
>>585897583fine if you're gonna beg. don't spread it around
>>585897708up your moms smelly vagina, left it there last night. go check>>585897734kek fucking anime fag of course. such style, such originality. you sure showed me, loser...
Better add that tag, faggot. Already sent the report to Steam. Archived your steam page, too. Don't try and run now. https://web.archive.org/web/20261028081858/https://store.steampowered.com/app/5247930/Goodbye_Mr_Sato/
>>585897734>tranime
>>585897861KEKYPOWWWWWWWW
>>585897861kek amazing, because these tools sure work. good luck, nodev..
>>585897861BASED
>>585897941holy tech illiteratethe image watermarks actually do work, are you retarded? they embed it in the images, you can see it if you raise contrast. openai embeds a watermark all over the image in the pixels and can detect it in their own verification, just like gemini. should have edited your images to avoid it being detected.
>>585897941Please become tech literate. If you were, you would have removed the watermark by degrading the images a bit before putting it in your game. Gemini and OpenAI watermarking in images is super obvious
>>585897012what was the point of making claude make this?
>>585897941https://deepmind.google/models/synthid/
>>585897941Kek you got blown the fuck out. The one actual proof for AI images that exists and you forgot to edit it out.
>>585897861BTFO
>>585897941It's the only tool that actually does work, because you were dumb enough to use ChatGPT instead of NovelAI or local.
did people....need the tool to tell???????are you guys fuckin with me
>>585898195no its just that now the report against it not using the ai content tag stands up if he had traced ai art, you wouldnt be able to report it, but you can report ones with provable synthid
>>585897861Lmao this nigga didnt even remake the art he just raw dogged it into the game
https://www.monkeylogic.dk/>Brazilian
>Already sent the report to Steam.
>>585897785>all that incoming sloplol, lmao even
I actually use AI but I love seeing an actual retard get btfo
>>585897861lol retard steam won't do shit, faggot luddie
VALVE TELLS DEVS AFRAID OF COPYCATS TO MAKE BETTER GAMES>He started with Valve's underlying principle regarding new technologies. "We don't want to be gatekeepers telling developers which tools they should or shouldn't use," he said, stating that whether to use AI in development is a decision for the developers themselves.>However, he pointed out that clone games existed long before AI. Spotting an interesting concept during Next Fest and quickly making a similar game or chasing trends has always happened; AI has simply accelerated that pace.>He framed this as creating two challenges for developers. The first is community. Building a developer website, engaging with players, and establishing identity and trust serves as the first line of defense against clone games, whether AI was involved or not. However, he added that because it takes time and does not happen automatically, community alone is not enough.>The second is continuous improvement. He emphasized that this task is equally important for small indie studios worried about AI clones and for Valve, which operates Dota.>As evidence, he pointed to Valve's philosophy on anti-piracy. Valve has historically not been aggressive with DRM or anti-piracy measures. Instead, it placed weight on making the legitimate version the best version available, and he explained that Valve views AI cloning through the same lens. Giardino said, "Rather than relying on a single mechanic that someone can easily copy, you need to keep growing your game by adding features, personality, and creativity that stem from your own perspective."
the monkey brownoid is getting scared because he forgot to edit out synthid
>>585898303>dkman they truly only accept the most dogshit immigratns don't they, i mean obviously otherwise they wouldn't move.
GABEEEEEEEEEEEEEN INCREASE THE STEAM FEE
>>585898303>monkeylogic>is brazilianKEKYPOW
>>585898450big day for brownoid luddies
two indies on the topseller list....damn they must have made shitloads
>monkeylogic brazillian calling anyone brown
>>585898550steam won't do shit piss and shit your pants :)))
He's terrified of losing his 100 dollars kek
>>585898631No one is going to buy your game irregardless. >>585898657Of course not, he's a leech.
>>585898657factually wrong as steam will do exactly nothing keep crying though xD
>>585898631This thread is a no nigger zone. You need to leave and go somewhere else where they allow niggers because you aren't welcome here.
>>585898526Har har I got the joke!!!!
>xD
>>585898721>>585898783>>585898713wuh oh tiddles... steamie weamie won't do shit for you luddies huh??
>>585898752what joke?
now type it without your brown hands shaking violently
>>585898526>cawadoody>949what the fuck
Knowing a brown poor nigger is spending his few dollars on putting slop on steam in hopes of making a profit is hilarious
>>585898815@hopoo
>>585898886>>585898926>>585898928wuh oh someone needs a diaper change call gaben really nicely and he might help you out
>>585898526does moon sweepers have john madden?
PK PK|HUEHUAHUEUHAuHUHEUAUHEUA
Why are "they" like this?
>>585898951Are you 14 or are brazilians just mentally stunted? You talk like a fucking child
>>585898951Post proggy
>>585899015oh noooo help gaben!!
>>585898438>Just focus on making a community dood>Forums are dead>4chan and reddit are dying>Every active social media is algorithm driven and biased towards the exact kinds of gimmick games that are easy to clone Thanks Valve, really cool.
>>585899058didn't read, post the daigo pic
>start a community>people just argue about my AI usethis is all that would happen
>>585899112you can ban people from your games steam forums for anything :)
>start a community>feds ruby ridge meThis is all that would happen honestly
>>585897054>wisdom straight out of his asswrong
will monkeyman make his 100 back?
>>585899058Just pull yourself up by the bootstraps bucko. Back in the day I hosted my own website on my e-machine.
>>585899375will your tears ever stop flowing?
>>585899449I'm white and do this as a hobby because my job makes 6 figures little monkey bro.
>>585899375 wont even sell a single copy
>>585899449I use AI for my game too though, yours just looks like bottom of the barrel zero effort indianware.
>>585899534>AI*SI
it makes me feel better knowing im not that low effort
When will agdg implement the non nigger policy to stop this
https://store.steampowered.com/explore/new/Post the most kino games on the new list
>>585899683Grim.
>>585898438>>585899389>Building a developer websitevalve's advice to developers who's games are being cloned really is just build a website like its still 2005JFLMight as well take out an ad in my local paper while I'm at it.
>>585899494>>585899534>>585899495lil luddtroons angry today
>>585899892But I have the 200 plan on Claude. How am I a luddite?
>>585899892I'm using claude right now doe. I'm sorry that you're shaking.
>>585899892what is your goal?
>>585900017>research>234k tokensLMAOING AT YOU
>>585899179>ban them>streisand effect brings more and more forever
>>585900259It wasn't a very big research task. Are you just shitting yourself that I'm not a luddite? You called me one but I use AI too all the time You'll always move on and find the next thing to shit the thread about because you're bored and brown
>>585900259>i can't say luddtranny now i have to say something else!!
uma delicia
I'm so happy I was born where I was.
>>585900267you think? xD
Proggy?
>>585900528proggy status
why isnt the monkey posting proggy
>>585900647>>585900837>>585900924post your game real quick
>>585901021Making a mech game.
>>585901021https://store.steampowered.com/app/4725720/Sabre_Hunter_Keep_On_Moving/
>>585901283Looks fun>>585901194I love mechs
>>585901283>https://store.steampowered.com/app/4725720/Sabre_Hunter_Keep_On_Moving/ok that looks cool but ill wait for a pirate
>>585901283based
>>585901283wait is this a die by the sword decomp?
>>585901283Actual kino posted here for once
>>585901671BASED
>>585901671>>585901759i don't get it
>>585901671>manners cost nothinguhh...
>>585901780BASED!
>>585901283bought it downloading it goning to refund it decomp it
>>585901889brown reply
>>585901283>>585901316>>585901367>>585901581>under 500 wishlists in 6 monthsyou anons are cooked. that's obviously a bad game people don't want to play and you can't even tell
>>585901998don't worry i'm going to post it here for free
mr Sato will sell 1000 copies im posting it on reddit
graphics may look bad, but i assure you Claude is cooking great Cyberpunk 2077 combat into my game. graphics will be the last layer.
>>585902053>>585901889brownmonkey wont do shit
>>585902085>great Cyberpunk 2077 combat
>>585902085webm?
>>585901998>under 500 wishlists in 6 monthsnta but same. and it's objectively a good game. just nobody knows about it.
>>585902085post gameplay
my game lets you select from Body Type Ass and Body Type Boobs
>jedi knight with aiAI retards are cucks
>>585902642oh yeah? my game lets you select from Body Type Anus!!!!!!!!! and Body Type Balls!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>585902713brappp youre gay
>>585902317how many non-bot Steam page views so far?
>>585902713nice redditspacing
>>585902085is prompting other people's projects the only thing you can do kek
>>585902796il make billions bruh
95 percent of coders are using AI to code0.5 percent of artists are using AI to generate art>treat them the same! disclose AI code! you can't have it both ways!
>>585903049Diclose my ballsack nigga
>>585903049luddie retard
>>585903078post your game
>>5859027746k
how do u check someone elses wishlists
>>585903078>point goes over anons head and embeds into a wall, killing a spider that was just chilling.
>>585903207
>>585903201can't. there are estimates since you can check follower count. but who follows an unreleased game's page these days?
I can tell which poster is the monkey
>>585903336
>>585903049>If you count vibe coders as programmers but don't count vibe artists as artists, and also exclude tools like generative fill and cascadeur, you'll see that more programmers use AI than artists
>>585903276
>>585903406they are not counted because those people are not relevant to the point. this is about how established professionals have embraced the 'new' AI or not.
>>585903532>they are not counted because those people are not relevant to the point.
>>585903591 what was it like being the browen guy back then
>>585903417Unironically what happens when China fails? How are you going to buy the AI sub lil bro? Prostitution as usual?
>>585903532Professional artists are using AI dummy. Look at AAA games like COD, Deadlock, and the Oblivion remaster.
>>585903631By not being poor? I already pay 200/month?
>>585903631here you go lil luddster
>>585903591ask your teacher about it at school tomorrow kid.
>>585903631I'm using the 100 a month plan as a hobby. I'll be okay.Your usageMax (5x)On track. You should reach Sunday’s reset with room to spare.Current sessionResets at 9:00 AM26% usedResets Sunday 12:00 AM
>>585903680they are the 0.5 percent. >look this circle is blue though!
>>585903692>ask your teacher about it at school tomorrow kid.
>>585903754
>>585903683>communist>not poorle lol?
relax retards
>>585904089
>>585903942Post your bank account for us to laugh at
I have downscaled my expectations and am making a small IPSC horror game that I can hopefully do in a few months
>>585904264shit looks like poopoo dogdooo ass
>>585904136
>>585904351larp larp larp... sahuuurrrrrrrrrrrrr!
>>585904125
>>585904351>john smith>1234lol yeah you didnt edit anything else sir im sure
>>585904264neat. but why is the gun hanging on an invisible fishing rod you control?
>>585904328thanks man
>>585904351the power of CAPITALISM and FREEDOM
Agdg doesn't see the value of improving their skills, so they opt to use AI as a shortcuck for lack of practice.In the end it always boils down to I wanna get rich without effort on steam.
>>585904351Amazing bro this is realistic!
>>585904494Rail shooter controls, I find them fun, I really want people to stand still when they shoot
>>585904548hey crisgo back to making slop with vroid we're all waiting for proggy
>>585904552>>585904525>>585904462>>585904396
Why is Cris anti AI? Shouldn't he love having an easier workflow?
>>585904626AI can steal his AAA workflows
this guy should have been born a jeet
>>585904626He shit himself when he realized all he could make with it was a bad bitcoin bot and space invaders
>>585904626You have to label your shit as AI.Normies don't like AI products.
When a hobby dev makes a shitty looking game I say to myself "Damn, well at least he is just having fun making games"When I non-hobby dev makes a shitty looking game I say to myself "Damn, this is sad and pathetic specially since he is trying his best, how is he expecting to pay his rent now?"Anyone else?
>>585904771>You have to label your shit as AI.WRONG
>>585904771>You have to label your shit as AI.no you dont, crisyou can just trace ai and nobody will ever knowthey wont do shit and havent done shitthey just came out and even said "if your game can be cloned make a better one"they do not care
>>585904771Not really nigga they wont care
>>585904807>>585904808your reputation is ruined if you try to scam people.
>>585904863gaben says its ok
>>585904771>You have to label your shit as AI.If valve won't declare their blatant AI usage in deadlock then I won't declare my subtle AI usage.
cris you dont even have a reputation
>>585904934>>585904887>>585904861I don't want to scam people.This is like using AI to make you a muscular dude on tinder.It's pathetic jeet behaviour.
>>585904989
>Cris cares about his ""reputation""Bro you uploaded a bitcoin astrology tracking trade bot that was vibe coded, what reputation?
cris pretending he has morals is really funny >he likes ai>then he hates it>then he likes it again>now he hates it againthe cycle continues
>>585905008that's free>>585905042I don't hate AI.It's just that you will never develop your skills if you use it.And AI has the reputation of being something pajeets and criminals use to scam.
>>585904989Its not scamming. Valve is scamming developers by even requesting that they use a label that they themselves do not use. They know its the kiss of death but they are scumbags and want to virtue signal.
>>585904771timber rush
cris you say youre developing your skills but its been 14 years and you keep saying every game youve made is just a tech demo while you grind skills for even longerwhen will you finally make a video game that you dont say is practice
/v/ can't tell the difference between fygoon and cris, they just say "kill yourself cris" to both. very funny.
>>585905124>And AI has the reputation of being something pajeets and criminals use to scam. AI only real use o algo, maybe that's why
>Columbian talks down on pajeets
>>585905140https://store.steampowered.com/app/1808500/ARC_Raiders/
my gender is cris
whos worse and more stagnant fygoon or cris
>>585905271betz
>>585905140why not use the made with AI label if you're proud of AI?>>585905171I need to figure out a way to make pro character models that look 2D HD.After that is just learning music production.>>585905212I mean, scammers are using AI to call moms to claim they have kidnapped their daughters.Or to make CP of actual real kids.I'm not perfect but that's a bit too much.
>>585905227>bullied into removing the AI voice acting and suffered an early review bombing due to it which would have killed a smaller game
I wish cris was my uncle. he could set up a ddr pad for me.
what if i just
>>585905323>I need to figure out a way to make pro character models that look 2D HD.YOUHAVE BEENSAYINGTHISFORA DECADEYOU WILLDIEBEFOREFINISHINGA GAMETHAT YOUSAYISNTPRACTICEHOLY FUCK JUST PROCESS THIS FOR ONCE
>>585905323>why not use the made with AI label if you're proud of AI?Well we could ask valve I suppose. Why hide that Deadlock uses AI art? I am holding myself to their standard. Gamers treat them like god therefore anything they do is morally correct in the eyes of gamers.
>>585905323>I need to figure out a way to make pro character models that look 2D HD.Who the fuck cares just MAKETHE GAMEJUST MAKE ITJUST MAKE IT CRISJUST FUCKING MAKE ITWHO CARES IF ITS NOT PERFECTMAKEA FUCKINGGAMETHAT ISNT"PRACTICE"
Thank god I'm white
I had a nightmare where I spent my entire life waiting for AI to get good enough to wash away the shame of my wasted youth.. And then it didn't.
Cris is going to say LE WORKFLOW but I genuinely hope he gets help mentally
>>585905410No.I spend between 2018 and 2023 learning a way to have cheap assets.After that I spend like 3 years before discovering how to do 2D HD.>>585905423Rich people rape and eat children without repercusions, why not do that?>>585905456I want to make something like SOTN.
>>585905484
>Cris gives another braindead replyNevermind dude hope you get shot before you make a game jesus christ you are mentally ill
>doesn't know Cris is a CIA plant
>>585905559Do you ever process things like a normal human being or just repeat the same four phrases over and over? People want you to make a game. You don't want to make a game because you hate effort. Effort goes against your desire to have everything be extremely easy with a magical workflow that makes it easy. You could have put out a game by now even in those three years, a strong game with an actual idea and plenty of models, even if not perfect, as long as it's fun who cares
>>585905649I want to be as good as my young idols.No point in doing shit if I am not as good as them.
>>585897861This is why we, AI chads, don't post our games and just spike pedite cortisol all day while we make that 'gress. Too many jealous nodev pedites.
>>585901194Fuck yes man, please actually finish it we're dying for ground based chunky mech games.Don't give up
>>585905574I don't care about whatever the fuck is going on there
>>585905715It's not about not putting effortt, is about finding a way to deal with my panic attacks and burnout.
The ChatGPT situation is getting bad.I used my entire 5 hour limit in ONE task. From 100% to 0% in 10 minutes. $20 plan.Not only that, they've made their models so unintelligent in the past few weeks it is a liability to even let them touch your codebase, they'll just fuck it up, BADLY.
>>585905718the people you look up to all developed skillsthey took feedback and criticismthey made things based on their education and interests, and constantly pushed the envelope while living on a razor's edge between success and ruinall anyone has seen you do is try to do as little as possible while jerking off as much as possiblethere's a reason why every single thread on every single board eventually tells you to fuck off and die, it is pathetic to watch this, manyou don't want to make thingsyou just gen your AI and fumble around with bad tutorials and the second anyone says "that's bad" or you get bored you try something else hoping that something good will just fart out of the ether into your lap and you'll get money for nothingnah that ain't workin
>>585905574I care about what's going on in here
>>585905801you're back to the waiting periodthe models are all SUPER good when they first come out, but then they lose braincells rapidly
>>585905574anti-White hatred is so deranged
To the people who still CAN'T grasp why a workflow matters:>Imagine you now, at present, set out to create 100 2D HD models, and you end up spending 2000 hours to do so.>Imagine you instead find a devilish workflow, that not only makes the end result look better but also cuts the 2000 hours down to just 400.Wouldn't it be a bad idea to do extra work for worse models? This should come naturally to you.
>>585905924you've clearly have no intention to talk properly and ignore all the times I've linked my previous work.So better safe effort and look up my older work in the archive, and then see my progress.It's pointless to discuss again this.>But is my first dicussionWe already had multiple times this discussion, look up on the archive.
How much will it cost to prompt a gta 6? Can we pull it off with a worldwide collaboration?
>>585906201your excuse is always "i don't have enough time or money" and then you continue to ignore feedbackeven with the tools you have, the issue is not your work flow, the issue is your attitudeare you stupid? you've been doing the same thing, all you've done is change the tools. >i'm just looking for a workflowcris. every fucking board has disowned you when you pop up. even this thread, which has tolerated you for a long time and even celebrated you at times, is now sick of this fucking patternat some point you have to accept that it's youi don't need to look at the archivei fucking know you, cris. i've seen your tits.
>>585905801the only reason claude is any better right now is because they're going public soon and need to demonstrate the peak capability to rouse their evaluation higher for the IPO, as soon as that goes well or not claude will also be lobotomized to pre-Opus 5.5 levels
>>585906180Agdg can't understand that you can improve your results by improving your workflow.Workflow is basically your mental algo you use to make something.Many times, you don't need more effort in practice, bur rather better improvements come if you develop your mental algorithm.I could make a begginer become professional in a couple months, because now I have a mentla workflow to produce high quality assets cheaply.It's a lot like optimizing the process of production of a chain of a factory.
>>585906363This was my 2015 skill.It's pointless to have this discussion again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6u_dzBhWtjA>Most of agdg have forgotten what gamedev meant to some in 2013-2015>Gamedev is now about getting rich quick or finishing a game faster so you can make more games to scam gamers
>>585906428>>585906528Cris The Schizo of Stagnation?More likeCris The Genius of Progress!
Just started using free Claude making a game on godot. How do I make things even easier for myself? Right now I'm just telling it what I want and then dragging and dropping the files into the project. I want to use my ideas to make the game not an ai's ideas. I know the 20 dollar tier lets it write code directly but I don't want to pay that.
>>585906753Valve's fault btw. They destroyed indie game development because they were booty blasted they missed out on minecraft.
>>585906826>missed out on fat sw*dish incel game co-developed with /v/i'm sure gabe is wetting his bed every night bemoaning THAT incident...
>>585906789https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GMiEc4yTDkI'm honestly happy with my progress.I've reached a skill that would take a team to make.>>585906826It's a lot of things.I honestly think Is a gold rush.When pajeets realize there's not easy money on gamedev and most people reject AI games, it would become normal again.
>>585906528and you still do not create artwhy don't you listen to feedback? you get all this hostility and pushback and banishment because when you get actual valuable feedback that people invest time and HOPE into, HOPING that you will gain something from their interaction with you all you give them is>no>you don't understand (you're stupid/ignorant/a newfag) >i can't>no i can't>i won'tdo you get it, man? people actually get invested in trying to help you, and you just do the same shit over and over
>>585906428You understand this is just proving his point, right? You tried something, then tried something else and carried the problems forward, then tried something else and carried the problems forwardInstead of fixing what you have and making what you have better, you make something new which has THE EXACT SAME FUCKING PROBLEMSthat thing from 2024 might have actually stood a chance if you EVER LISTENED TO ANYBODY ABOUT ANYTHING
>>585905801>The ChatGPT situation is getting bad.
>>585907251because you're not in my position.the advice of doing things properly doesn't work on me.>>585907337I'm improving, but it takes time to master a skill.
RED ALERTRED ALERTI AM WITNESSING MULTIPLE "ANONS" ENGAGING WITH THE ENTITY KNOWN AS "CRIS"DISENGAGEDISENGAGEMASSIVE DEVELOPER AURA LOSS DETECTEDLOSS OF PROGRESS DETECTED
>>585905792get mental helpget meds cris
>>585907425why doesnt it workexplain your positionexplain your traumawhat causes it
>>585907425cris i have been in a worse position than you for most of my life i still took advice from people who could see the objective difficulties and issues with my processa better work flow would be learning a fucking skill and improving the specific things people tell you to improvelike if someone says "hey man the spiders look weird when they don't flip to face the direction they're moving" you just shut them down and make up a billion excuses instead of asking someone "how do i do that" and then doing it
>>585907608burnout and low stamina.
>>585905124cris you don't want to develop your skills. you literally make excuses and try to find the cheapest and easiest way to do models instead of learning
>>585907659those arent going to get any better, thoughyou have to understand that youre only gonna get older and more tiredfind ways around it
>>585907656>>585907692I studied how to art the traditional way.I just don't want to do western art.>>585907716I've found I can endure things, but in certain ways.
>>585907781I don't understand how you can't comprehend that things require all of your effort to get the best results. Most artists put their full effort into everything they do to make it look the best, a rare subset are just naturally geniuses at it. The rest of us try really hard, every time, because that's how you get better and better, and you get into a rhythm but you're still tryingYou will never, ever find a work flow that makes it easy without maximum effort
>>585907781im begging you cris, just start making the gameyou said vroidvroid + mixamothere you goeasy as fucknow make a video game using it with the idea you want to make most
>Molyneux says:>"I'll talk in general terms. I won't talk about ourselves. Let's say you and I thought about a game, you know, let's set it in an old Carpathian mountain village. And it starts in a graveyard, and there's this young girl wandering around the graveyard looking lost. Now, traditionally, what you would do is you'd have someone… like there was a genius concept artist at Lionhead called Mike McArthur, and I'd sit down with Mike McArthur [and] I'd say, yeah, there's this girl, and she's wandering. How old is the girl? Mike might say. I don't know, maybe she's about 12. Okay, and is it an old church, a new church? You know, we'd have this conversation.>"[So] he would go away. Two weeks later, he would come back. Then, do you mean this girl? This child? Oh no, I don't really like the girl. She looks too pretty. She should be, you know, starving, and he goes away for another week, comes back. Yeah. [Now] you can do all that concepting work in five minutes [with AI].peter I can draw that in 15 minutes. mike scammed you
Imagine if Cris had started making a game 3 years ago instead of stalling looking for a "WORKFLOW"
I bought the 20 dollar tier and am still hitting 5 hour limits. Feels like free tier. Am I just not supposed to use opus for gamedev?
>>585907862I get physically sick if I do things "the traditional way">>585907907I still need to figure out he 2D HD workflow.I already got it figure out.What I need to find is a way to not relly on AI that gets me a similar result.I basically figured it out, I need to do it without AI.
>>585908065Nah, its just that the 20 dollar tier is a legitimate scam. You may as well have 15 free accounts doing sonnetThe 100 dollar tier is the absolute minimum to not run out using opus when game deving, i never hit the limit and i do decomp shit
An anon said it before, but>I genuinely believe the rise of AI games will cause Cris to kill himself.>He's realizing that others are making progress using AI that he hasn't made in 12 years. >But AI isn't perfect, it can't 3D model too well yet, and it still needs some tardwrangling, so he's hanging in there.>When a model like Claude can 3D model well, he will take a gun and put it in his mouth that same day.He's realizing that AI can do things he can't, and using AI makes him sick and mad, so he's realizing he'll never actually do it. The death is soon.
>>585908065only 100 dollar plan is worth it i dont know what 20 is even for. 200 is overkill but also the best deal
This thread is lostIs this the new psyop?Everyone replies to Cris?This is truly a new hell
>>585908178AI art is like buying an indian costume, looks good but it smells to poo and curry.
>>585908258Cris is posting proggy, you aren't, so we talk to Cris.
>>585908258cris actually makes games he just is a total retard
Elon musk is so fucking cool.
>>585908316>Says the fat ugly columbian Get off your high horse
Cris literally looks indian.
I mean, I got almost figure out most of the 2D HD workflow.What I wanna do now is to figure out the same result but without using AI.
go to church, Crisyou'll get way more out of it than trying to bash yourself upside the head with gamedev
>>585908498now make a game with this.
>>585907461New guy here, what's the protocol for this?
>>585908498just make a game with vroid but with your own custom textures itll be fine and its already rigged
>>5859080655.5 max effort eats it. you don't have to use max effort. But I agree it does feel closer to free tier, I originally found it worth it for fable access(before 5.5). I upgraded to $100 because I didn't want to hit my limits again. (so far haven't)
>>585908498whatno you haven'tthere is no HD2D work flow, do you mean digitized graphics like golden sun/donkey kong?HD2D is just billboard sprites in a 3d environment with a bloom shader, that's all
>>585908583I need to figure out a way to do that cheaply and reliable.The missing part is reliable.>>585908638The issue with Vroid is that It doesn't look my style.It looks like Vroid.>>585908698I mean 3D that looks 90% like 2D art.
>>585908498What the fuck is "2D HD"?Imagine if you actually worked on modeling for three years instead of crying on 4chan
>All these replies to CrisAre we actually getting an influx of fresh blood right now?
>>585908806Something that looks like this.
>>585908498You are meant to engage 4D3D3D3>computer, generate nude cris
>>585908795>>585908928Cris, vroids are just a generic anime body with slidersIt is entirely in the texturesThe picrel in this post? It's a vroid. It just has nice textures.
>>585908884AI opened the gates to gamedev. I just woke up and 2 threads already went past and this one is halfway through. Shit's moving too fast for my liking.
>>585908996I have my own style.Vroid is just too diferent from my actual workflow that I just don't know how to do that level.
>>585909087vroid is braindead easyits literally, and actually the easiest workflow everyou only have to make textures. thats it. no rigging, no anything, because it ports into most shit really easy, and into mixamo
>>585909087>Gets given the easiest possible thing where he can just draw his own textures onto a premade, rigged body>durrr i dunno its too d-different from da workflow i usally do im scared of changeyou got spoonfed an easy workflow
>>58590908713 year old vtubers do this shit >>585908996 in vroidIt has an easy UI and all you have to do is draw clothes and faces and eyes and move hair pieces around
>>585909123Vroid doesn't work for shit like backpads or weapons or accesories.Plus, Vroid models are 15k.My models are 2-3k>>585909169>>585909206Vroid looks like Vroid.Not like my own style.
It's crazy how Cris finally gets given the easiest way of making things and still shits himself because actually trying to do is giving him a panic attack. He should just hang himself, it'd be the easiest workflow of all.
>>585909248>Vroid looks like Vroid. >Not like my own style.
what will cris' last words be as he never releases a good game?
>>585909369What's the point of doing something that can easily be copied by pajeets?This is like telling vangogh to use a photo camera.
cris you're brown too
Post the photo of cris' fat belly over his shorts as he stands in the corner of his empty room looking like a scared bald deer
>What's the point of doing something that can easily be copied by pajeets?
Pajeets think the entire point of gamedev is to finish quickly so you can feed your faimly with 5 usd on steam.You can see using AI correlates to being brown/black, meanwhile not using AI correlates to being white or japanese.
>>585909716That's why we know Cris is brown, he used AI to try and get out of doing workI haven't ever touched it and I'm white
>>585909723KEK
I released my DD demo early yesterday to a blistering 40 views. Things are looking up.
>>585909857This was made with AI I can tell by the dogshit UI
>>585909716japs use ai and are genuinely confused about why westoids gamers don't like it.
Why does cris larp
>>585909983japan doesn't build datacenters with corner cutting contractors.
>its okay when japan does it!japan is jeeted
>>585909716>not using AI correlates to being white or japanese.Capcom (and just Capcom) mysteriously released 4 good games and an expansion to Dragons Dogma 2 this year. The entire USA didn't even release a single good game.
>>585910164Japan is run by the yakuza who are known for being corner cutting contractors. Cris, you are in a cartel state, you should know what it's like
>>585898438Unfathomably based.
>>585910164goalpost moving
>>585909983Japan after 2016 is not Japan.
why is cris a self hating brown person now
>>585910281I'm just answering the question albeit. in western leftists minds, AI = dirty water because meta built a facebook datacenter and that brown chick showed how dirty the water in that town had become as a result
>>585910223yakuza siphon pay but the work isn't sloppy
>>585910375It's a coping mechanism. He thinks he's punching down against other browns even though those other browns have private space launch capability and his kind of brown is going to get raped by the Americans under neo-Monroe Doctrine.
Why do south east asians think they are on the same level as a south american? A south american that's mentally ill. You are beneath him.
>>585910530didn't moot say there weren't a lot of browns on 4chan and it was mostly larp then why am i seeing so many
>>585910884That was probably before India got mass internet access bro
>>585897012not even worth the html it was printed on
>>585910884Yeah 10 years ago. For some reason tech companies are exploiting those shitholes giving them access to the internet and forcing the to immigrate everywhere despite being low skilled workers. A couple of years is all it takes to completly kill countries.
I only come by now and then but wasn't cris using AI a lot earlier this year. Why does he hate it now?
>>585898438>that will be 30%+tip
>>585911395because a year ago pajeets weren't mass scaming people with AI.
>I made [boring thing with claude pixel art]>I made [claude pixel art asset generator]>I made [vfx demonstration made with claude]>I made [water shader made using claude]>I made [luddites seethe]
Rate my sloppah new and improved
>>585911971Embarrassing.
>>585910314>put in a bad situation due to following a retarded us made system>let us blame........................bangladeshMaybe if they didn't make tranime which brainrotted their entire population into not having sex they would not need cheap labor, and the gamedev landscape would be healthier and so would /agdg/. Can you image that no? No pedos and no tranime, every game being soulful risk of rain or the frydarian tale adjacent? So yeah fuck japan, it has done permanent damage to the world.
>>585911971It's slop. it's game smog. everything here could be replicated by a random person with no taste. we must strive for more.
>>585912298You understand that the birth decline in europe, the u.s. and Japan is a complete lie right? Smaller countries are stronger and have higher life standards. This is not a good thing for>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>them
>>585911576>tranime pedites were defending valve before AI and telling us that we have to pay 30% to gabencunt while doing all the marketing>AI comes and rapes the gatekeeping trannies and NOW it becomes a problemreally makes one think...
the v3 owner betz is a doxer just fyi
>>585912462That's not how it works, if entire industries that need cheap labour are decimated and you have 1 gorillions STEM golems who can't do it your country is fucked without importing 2 gorillion bangladeshis, China is not winning because they have more phds, they're winning because they have unlimited slaves, slaves are the backbone of any first world country if you lose slavery you lose everything.
>>585912368but it's just to have basic units in my gaem, I would pay top dollah for an artist collab
>>585913042Right. there are assets that already cover all of this. if you buy one, then you can get AI to iterate on that, rather than make a game using Claude's art style.
>>585897861BTFO i didnt even know AI secretely watermarked
>>585913254keep samefagging nodev
>>585912693I don't think these tech companies matter. Northern Europe is not going full retard on AI and they are still the strongest and safest countries in the world despite all the immigrants.Low tier skilled workers don't make a country great and never will, if they actually asimilated and made things better then they wouldn't even need to leave in first place.
>>585898525good marning saar
>claude I need 3d models>say no more!
>>585902782ferrarri schizo give up your secret>>585913351lmao take your meds slop
>>585913493sybau nodev
>>585909248>Vroid doesn't work for shit like backpads or weapons or accesories.Dude. No way you're a real person.
>>585914975missing the point.What if I want to make something that doesn't fit as anime girl or humanoid?
>>585913729and where is your game huh troonschizo?
It seems open AI and antropic solved the exponential time hypotesis.Luddites BTFO I guess.
>>585915924I solved it. AI just scraped my proof while I was spell checking it
so this is the powero reddit, you dumb fucks lied to me
>>585912506>tranime pedites were defending valveYou just made it up josh
>>585916246more like slopper of the jams
whens the jam, I'm ready to receive my agdg goty award.
>>585916246Advertse anywhere and everywhere shamelessly.
nigga is named barnaby
>>585916312Just let them know I wont be signing any autographs.
>>585899798If I saw an ad for a game in my local newspaper I would unironically be interested
I really can't believe it took me like a week in my off days after a gym to make the best game this general has seen, and you people are still struggling to post gameplay lol after months are even possibly years kek.You're like here 25/8, wtf are you doing kek? Cant be a a skil issue with all the ai around, you cant be really this fucking useless not to be able to type a prompt out with your thoughts.Or dont you have any thoughts of your own kek?Like dronesbzzz bzzz
>>585916380I hate this ugly ass fake steamboat willy artstyle.
>>585916675>after a gymesl alert
post your current limits
Where are humble and respectful and honest and hardworking devs at? I'm tired of the cretins here
>>585916753no shit you dumb fucking shit, jesus kek, it's really that easy to a bait you dumb fucks.goddammit, you know im gonna be back here in a week with a new game, you better have some gameplay for me, or you you get the stick.
>brazilian monkeys game failed so he called in the brown backup
>>585917082
Bridging the gap from small-ass jam games to tight, polished mechanics proves that real passion, solid systems, and badass community connection smash bloated AAA bullshit every fucking time. If you're paralyzed by scope creep, stop whining, crank up your engine, and write the damn code grinding out the work restores creative flow faster than anything else. Shipping your passion project, getting hyped player reviews, and making real dev connections feels fucking incredible. I might be a short-ass dev, but I bust my ass at the gym lifting heavy shit and grind just as hard on my game mechanics so trust me, any indie dev out there has what it takes to reach their absolute peak form.
>>585917082> blackup
>>585897861Wow way to make sure no one ever posts their game again, jackass.
It's really funny how petty the tranime nodev pedophiles are lol, just because you're using AI to make them they will seethe endlessly. Fuck you and fuck tranime, we will keep using AI and keep flooding steam, cry.
>>585917082who are you talking about?
>>585897861steam won't do shit btw
>>585918231Please don't flood steam. make something good. please. I beg ye.
>>585918708
>>585918779that's me and you? >.< cute!
>>585918936kek
>Ask proud AI devs to put a disclosure... They instantly start melting and seething.Noticing.
>>585919228it's not enforced so why would i, also top yourself
>>585919228demons hate it when you notice them...
>>585919472
>>585897076why didn't you publish it when you have a trailer?
after the butlerian jihad millions of sloppers will hang as they watch their precious GPU clusters melted down to slag
>>585919228that's because using the AI label is like using pajeet photos on tinder.
>>585919615Trailers don't matter. Do A/B tests and you'll see.
>>585898438>is nobody buying your game?>just make a better gamewhen did game 'devs' forget about this concept?
>>585919228>AI devs say "everyone uses AI" so it shouldn't be a shameful thing anyway>recent survey shows only 12% of people would refuse to buy a game if it was made with AI, so it's not that big of a deal>somehow they still react like vampires to sunlight if you ask them to disclose It's weird.
>>585919781why don't you show me YOUR A/B test
>>585897861>anon is probably one of those screeching you post gameKek you no you are part of the reason why some stay secretive of their games>post game>consequences:>AI accusation (regardless of AI usage)>no AI art but admitted to AI usage = AI accusation regardless if said usage actually ended up in the game>*clones it*>*anon who feels dangerous latches onto you and stalks you*Why even post my game? Though I'm in the category of not taking a chance and having my game cloned. This is your bed now. I vill talk about my non gamedev related stuff, I vill not post gaem, and you vill cope and seethe as my post is still gamedev related for talking about it lightly.
>>585919818they also want everyone to use ai just like them for some reason... very jewish behaviour
Almost done with this one, only one left and i will have all the content for the demoday
>>585919228Gamers are drones. If they can't tell something used AI, why let them know?As an example, this obviously AI slopped game got tons of upvotes on the godot reddit. You think gamers are any better?https://www.reddit.com/r/godot/comments/1xhjj0o/you_ever_look_at_your_game_for_several_minutes/
>>585919920Because then you'll want to see the trailers and the games and then it will turn into a whole discussion about my games that wouldn't convince anybody of anything. Just do your own test and compare data.
>>585920139>700 upvoted>a dogshit meme below it has 2.7k upvotesI think they do.
>>585920345>discussion of your game is BAD because.... IT JUST IS OKAYagain, show me your data :)
>>585897861If you were smart, you would have waited for the game to be released and get popular first before doing that.Now you gave him a chance to fix it before release.
>>585919781It's so bizarre how modern indie devs are adopting the same self-sabotage retardation as the AAA
>>585920139the top comment clocked the AIbut most of the work is done by the volumetric clouds. look at bits of land below the clouds and you'll see it's a pre-AI agdg tier game
Surprisingly, humans like man-made things. Also, beauty. Go figure.
>>585920430You know what? Forget I said anything. Go make your trailer. Put real effort into it even if you have to delay your game for a week or two. I'm sure it'll pay off. :)
>>585910375Cris has been honorary Aryan for years now
>>585920696can smell your seething from here. concession accepted.
>>585920430>why don't you post your game??because you can catch a schizo like >>585897861
>60 games release EACH DAYwho said this? More than 150 games are launching on my date
>>585920812>>Don't want to get doxxed>>Don't want to get cloned>cOnCeSsIoN aCcEpTeD
>>585906927>missed out on a fully fund yacht solely off one gameIdk he might be seething. If I had a game with that much attention, then I'd just pay someone to make me a good website and sell copies of the game there instead of on steam. Why give the middleman anything. Gabe bitched and moaned about it only to turn around and set it up as a 30% royalty cut. Not even a reduction to 20% or 10%, full on 30% kek.
>>585921698>doxxed from a steam pagemhm mhmgood games don't get cloned though. you know why? cause it takes effort to make them.
>>585898438>a developer websiteCool so dont use steam and skip out the cut. Something tell me his entire response was really>I make more money this way so I don't careKek so many people treat him as some great guy, just watch it IPO while still under his control
>>585921817Reverse engineering. that company is gone the moment the fatguy dies.
reminder, the average competent dev can watch some gameplay and know how your game mostly works. Rather than trying to hide until release day, you should focus on the unique identity that only you can intuit.
>>585920107ur a faggot and you post faggot shit
>>585921817>>doxxed from a steam pageIf you know what my game is, you can find my social media and my photos and my friends and family. Not my address but I wouldn't want some raging schizo from here to latch on to me>>good games don't get cloned thoughHoney wake up, a new definition of a good game just landed! It's a game that can't get cloned
>>585921991>Reverse engineeringand then what? has anybody re-released their own version of rocket league yet, or skyrim inside minecraft?You're only outing yourself as an AI slop generator who just wants to cash in for 2 days before your game gets taken over by chinese bots and improved in ways you couldn't bother to do.fuck off and piss off>>585922156>If you know what my game is, you can find my social media and my photos and my friends and familyThat just sounds like a bad choice to be so public lmao. anyone from steam seeing your game can do that now too, you know? retard>It's a game that can't get clonedcorrect
>>585922242You don't see why reverse engineering entire games is a bad thing? Are you fucking stupid? I'm legit asking. Are you fucking stupid? Brain damaged? Can you even space normally like a fucking human?
>>585911576It sucks doesn't it sis? Gabe really showing his true colors while lapping up fanboys money that defend him at every turn. Seems his only intent is maximizing money and pissing off Tim.
>>585922443>reddit spacinguh oh ai slopper meltie. sorry hun, everybody is gonna take your genned game apart day 1 and resell it. that's just how things work now.
>>585922242>Being a normal person who isn't anonymous online is a bad choice.Ok.>retardYou don't need to sign your posts.
they never reverse engineer mario or zelda. they always go after the substance-less quirky indie games. noticing
>>585922548Not reading. You can't even reply to a question.Actual subhuman garbage.
>>585922572Do you feel targeted? Kek
>>585922619>2 lines of spacing now>>585922570>he doesn't know
>>585922572>they never reverse engineer mario or zelda. they always go after the substance-less quirky indie games. noticinghere's gta 5 in the browserhttps://web.archive.org/web/20261006055917/https://playgta5.com/
>>585922713>here's gta 5 in the browserit's obviously not a good game
>>585922713>here's gta 5 in the browserno that looks like a broken archive link of a dead website. how'd that happen? your thoughts?
>>585922713wow! how much did you earn for that?
>>585922845>>585922897>>585922928https://github.com/SubmitGame/awesome-decomp-games#play-in-your-browser
>>585922572literally zelda is the first link>>585923138
>>585922572>they never reverse engineer mario or zelda.retard
uh oh melty
>>585923427dumbass
8 days23 hours33 minutes52 seconds
>>585923902i still don't understand the rules can i just upload whatever or does it have to start from scratch once the day arrives then submit before closing?
>>585924026you can submit whatever
>>585924205that's fucking as retarded as betz shitty gamejam then
>>585924281Indeed, makes the whole thing pointless
>>585923138great, a bunch of old ass games that max out your pc because the browser is retardedly inefficient.and gta 5? or did the goalposts move again
>>585924026demo day isn't a game jam, just a show-and-tell for your current project which could be just started or deep in development.idk why you're over-complicating it
>>585924281not really, i like seeing people play my game so i can see what works and what doesnt
>>585924509have you tried not getting sodomized by your uncle?
>>585909857>MGEUnfathomably based. You need to fix her face though, she looks like a man in makeup.
>>585896657Haven't dev'd in a while. I'll try today after I do some yard work and go to sleepDoes /agdg/ watch videos while you work? Probably to distracting but still you might find a cool idea in there sometimes. I like to watch the Glendale Archives, analog, and backrooms stuff sometimes. Also ull episodes of Venture Bros are legally being uploaded onto youtube like once a week or something.https://youtu.be/7EHNKJqvlMghttps://youtu.be/Hz0BEkJhsl0https://youtu.be/vS5-ZOJHnSY
>>585924820>Haven't dev'd in a while.probably because you are a nodev
>>585924935I work long hours friend. And they are physically draining. Not unusual for me to work 5 to 8 days in row, 10-12 hour shifts.
>>585925098i don't care nobody cares you don't have a game
>>585912462>>585912693>>585912298>>585913365>>>>>>>/pol/the fuck out of here faggots
>>585925258>paypig
>>585925391I pay for the site so you can browse cuck porn on /gif/ for free niggerlover
>>585925551>I pay
I'm a has-been. time has passed me by. I don't understand the currently popular games. I don't understand why roblox is popular. everything is moving and changing too fast. I just want to be able to tinker with my game for years and keep a roof over my head but instead it's>get rich or starve
Odds of making this turn based>high
>>585925151We can't all live off the government or mommy and daddy's money. Just trying to give you some perspective.>>585919228 They sure like to brag when they can hide who they are ...>>585925687good prog
>>585925873post game you can't
>>585926040Haven't done anything for like a week or more.Seehttps://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/584604002/#584622165I'll be back tonight to share some prog
>>585923902mortan status?
>>585926212>https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/584604002/#584622165where's the "GAME" ?
>>585925652roblox is popular because it's basically GMod for the current zoomies and gen alphas.just like GMod was immensely popular because you could create any game in it
>>585926426ask the loli posters they know about roblox in and out
>>585926332A puzzle game where you figure out which cube is closest.
GM friendslets all work hard today and make kino!hee hee
>>585926697>A puzzle game where you figure out which cube is closest.wow it's three cubes figure it out dood i hate yank hours
>>585926863I think he was just making a bad joke, nigel
They are easily managed. Give them another visual scripting tool. Give them a new tutorial series to consume. They will stay in scope creep for a decade. By the time they release a demo, our pipeline will control the entire storefront.
>>585927706she made bank by being in the right moment of time and releasing stick run kino on facebook. sadly she got the tranny disease and now xhe is dead
>>585927896>she>she
>>585927706nodo you see that game in demo day??
>>585927896So xer wasn’t even a nodev?
>>585927706Why is this video so satisfying to watch? Kek
>>585927706>that one second of struggleimagine how that felt. did xhe die from smoke inhalation? is it that quick? at what point do your eyeballs melt and your eardrums pop. could you feel your flesh crusting over before you're gone?burning is such a brutal way to go. even drowning seems better.
that's an AI edit of the still image. the real one is way worse
give gamers what they want
>>585927478I've noticed many on 4chins lack media literacy and the ability to pick up on details.
>>585928180xhe was the antithesis of a nodev
Btw I literally had to modify the file cause you can’t upload the original on 4troons, the tranny (literally) mods thought it’s too much of a loss of izzat and of a strain on their mental health.
what's worth learning more currently? godot or unity?
>>585928713Well yeah you heathen looking at someone dying isnt good for your soul
>>585928771godot
>>585928563Burning in hell is yesdev?
>>585928962ACK
>>585928713Trannies are so fucking fragile its hilarious. Spiritually jeet all the way.
>>585901283>jedi academy cloneboo
>>585927706I don't care if it's a tranny, seeing people suffer, even those i dislike, makes my stomach ache. I wish life was good for everyone bros why is god so evil
>>585928952could you explain why? is everyone ditching unity?
jlmg
>>585929467hes not its the cold heart of man thats unwilling
>>585929467>why is god so evilbecause his name is the demiurge
>just another day where lil 'shua thinks about transgender genitals instead of making video games
>>585929467The tranny did it all to himself though. Zero sympathy
>>585929467based hopepilled idealist
something I don't get with game devs is how they hate on AI making 3d models. I never considered blender 3d modeling as "art", it's more like engineering with CAD since it's a technical skill. There's math involved that blender MCP can do to sculpt or shape things.Its not like analog art with painting where there's physical texture to it and imperfections.What do you guys think?
>>585929841There's no hope in that post kek
>>585929971that you're a retard
there was something I wanted to add to the intro to the game, artist stopped responding for 3 months. So I think I will do a more expensive version from a different artist that should have a bigger impact. I may also be doing this since I feel like shit and I want something for myself.
>>585929971I think luddites are irredeemable retards. Nothing digital could be considered art anyway. Its a spook. Like nigha you are staring into a screen like an ape get a grip there is nothing spiritual about using software to make some more software.
>>585929971yeah 3d has alway been basically plotting points on a graph
Just a few more shitposts on vg and that damn Ai will finally be killed and the economy will be saved!
>>5859301693d modeling is just math inputs into software. you just inflate/rotate via x y z coordinates. I'm sorry man but that's not art, that's just 3d programming. and because of that, AI is going to be crazy good at it>>585930352I'm pretty sure painters and sketch/pencil artists didn't consider 3d modellers as artists just like how 3d modelers don't consider ai generated models to be on their level
>>585929971something that I also don't understand is why people get so mad when someone don't want to use AI
>>585930503>Just a few more shitposts about trannies on vg and that damn clanker will finally make my game for me and save me from being a broke unemployed loser living in my childhood bedroom
>>585930750It's the other way around
>>585930750but it's the anti ai people getting mad at others for using ai though
>>585930954Give the DARVO shit a rest you retarded shillhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DARVO
>>585930953>>585930954>persecution complexExtremely jewish take.
The luddite cries out in pain as he strikes you
>>585930780I make 250k a year using AI, this is just a hobby lol
>>585929971it can be art. I agree though there are places AI modeling make sense to use and is more like CAD.
>Games set on ancient history or medieval fantasy>They use potions and Elixir>They don't use shit from the ebers papyrus or the edwin smith papyrus or the hipocratus corpus
>>585929507it just werks
>>585931208>look at me, I'm trying to impress you
>>585931208cris-tier post desu
>>585931208Very brown post, as expected from tranime
>>585931182I mean, you're probably better off first drawing your designs on paper via analog and then scanning it, and letting AI translate it into coordinates to alter in the software That's why I think it's more of a technical skill than art
>>585931208>Games set in ancient history or medieval fantasy>Everybody speaks the same language>Disease isn't the most common cause of death>Children are a rarity>Swords are effective against armor>Women don't get a strength penalty
>>585931529>expecting gamedev writers to actual research a topic instead of copy pasting the cliches of anime is too much for agdg brown AI jeets
>>585932012Just put the potions in the bag bro
>>585932012Ai knows more than you ever will. Ask it for realistic medieval practices and you will get a more accurate game (that isn't fun) than you will ever make. Luddites lose
historical realism is just a meme in games. Plus, once you go back ~50+ years, more and more "educated speculation" starts encroaching.
>>585931208it's all downstream from D'artagnan's gypsy healing ointment
>>585932012ludonarrative dissonance o algo
cuff status?
>>585932480>>585932496>>585932635>>585932637https://ia801407.us.archive.org/31/items/oip3_20220624/oip3.pdfRead this.It's great and literally is much more complex than any damage system in videogames.
>>585932012you know spics and jeets are indistinguishable between each other right?
>>585931967>you can drink water>things are drab and dirty>the commoner can eat beef or venison
>>585932884Would you rather eat food cooked by a mexican or a jeet? Yeah, there's no comparison there. Pass the street taco bro.
Is this retard just baiting or actually a retard? I don't care about some manuscript you came across in a class you took
>>585933084its the same food though one is just vegan and one is meat heavyi suspect its some type of prank by god
>>585932969yeah they were eating poorfag food like salmon and lobster and whole grain wheat bread>median time of death was under 10 years old>child graves literally everywhere
oh fuck, I accidentally replied to a cris post. My cris radar failed me this time, I'm sorry sisters. I'll do 2 training loops on bambi cloud as punishment.
>>585933319whats that? i dont want to google it and have it be some cringe gay shit
>>585933319Is not your fault Cris is a trickster he occasionally pulls out a reaction pic you don't expect. We must be vigilant.
>>585933423it is, you shouldn't (unless you're into it).
i wish success to all anons
>>585930953>>585930954>muh luddites hate AI REEEEEEEEEEE
>>585933575what are the chances timbo is shitposting here
>>585933575what will Epic be doing when AI is able to shit out a game based on a prompt for free?
what's the obsession with AIjeets and mouse gestures for magic
I'm reverse engineering a lovense to take input as a controller for my magic game
>>585934462Did you see something on X that pissed you of again? Frequent occurrence lately
>>585933680timmy is the classic kind of oblivious autist + retard, so extremely low.
Any advice bros?
>>585935608Obviously that character is disgusting but I guess your targeting that group of coomers, so just keep it up
>>585935608Stop being latinx
>>585935608latinx devs are too powerful
3d modeling, rigging and animation week for me
>>585935608>She isn't gliding down the slope on her assDropped
>>585935846well at least it will be worth it
>>585935608repent
>>585928246lel
>>585912652that's not what tripcodes look like fygoon probably posted that himself
>>585908795begging you to go and learn anatomy, manthat is not how boobs look or function
>>585935608EASILY the greatest /agdg/ game I've ever seen. Easily.
>>585901194That's impressive
>>585937206not even an original idea here desu
>>585937810And yet there is no image or video attached to your post. Curious.
>>585936594>that's not what tripcodes look like fygoon probably posted that himself
>>585938203fygoonian meltie
>>585938334>fygoonian meltie
You should find a new moat if Claude can easily cannibalize your sells.
>>585918208Guy was acting like a piece of shit and got caught lying so I'd say he deserves it
how big should her boobs be, left or right?
>>585938630Bet gamercattle are cheering
>>585938630I had my first game cloned 5 years ago. I guess I was something of an avantgarde gamedev
>>585939013The valve fanboys probably are. Says a lot desu
>>585938630I wonder how receptive those rich fucks would be to similar arguments if they get a tax hike>Just earn more money, bro
>I can't compete with this tech so ban it so I don't have to learn itIndies starting to sound like legacy boomer corps
>>585939013>>585939250hello it's me
>>585939013reminder that gamercattle hate usthey don't hate EA or Activision or any of those big companies that they paypig for. gamercattle hate us. the smaller we are the more they hate us and want us to have nothing
recently I've been noticing a lot of japanese accounts in my feed it's unreal
>>585938662left
>>585939409>I can't compete with immigrants so ban immigration so I don't have to work more for less
IT'S OVERhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PbVrrNKKwU
>>585939689Get over yourself negro.
>>585939951>gamercattle in a gamedev generalwhy are you here?
>>585939689>look up silksong price>it's 20 buckshow fucking much are these redditors trying to charge for their games???
>>585939689yesin fact id go far to say that the gamer is the hardest person to please out of every medium
>>585939862Not gonna pay you for your "art" bruh. Just not happening.
the only ones who can compete with AI are lolidevs
>>585940175just the most pampered, imagine getting a refund if a movie sucked
My game would beat the shit out of your game IRL.
>>585940018Why are YOU here? To post 2 year old screenshots with the date cropped out? Only fooling yourself Mr "gamedev".
>>585940501you are a nodev thoughbeit
>>585939013they're shitting timmy so I'm okay with thathttps://x.com/Pirat_Nation/status/2115458568073748530
>>585896657Does anyone have tips on how to make bigger enemies move through a crowd of smaller ones? A "Tell those who touch the big one move" function works decently as long as there is one "layer" of crowding, but whenever more than a couple of enemies get involved, everyone just gets stuck on each other
How much money did your Steam game make?
>>585940501do not fear other devs my squad of games will protect you
Waiting for when we get a tripfag thread schizo named Bobby Brown
>>585940887i'm waiting for the betz suicide manifesto
>>585939948>and I think a lot of legal trouble could be heading their way>I think>could be
>>585940641I mean yeah Valve is not going to block, filter or turn against AI in any way shape or form. Any brown luddy thinking otherwise is out of touch with reality.
>>585941351youtubers are lower than gamer cattle thoughbeit
>>585939732My feed turned 90% japanese after getting a blue checkmark. It has been an improvement.
>>585940695Drawing for example of what I'm aiming for, if possible on a larger scale
>>585940695that's how it works in real life too. people get trampled in moving crowds so if you don't have trampling you'll have to figure out something else. tag the smaller units in contact with the big unit give them a steering vector in an opposite direction. then other units in contact with the tagged smaller unit get their own steering vector in the opposite direction and so on. then when you process movements, add up all the steering vectors every unit has and move them that way
>>585938658I thought we were all in this together? Snitching ain't cool.
done
>>585941398is this a normal thing for brown pdfs? I guess japs get lumped in with you
>>585941625gay pedo shit
>>585941252Better keep making ai porn of the v3girls, he gets angry every time
>>585941625Is this midjourney or krea? been liking krea a lot personally
>>585939013>>585939689https://youtu.be/g_0ikjmKIhs?t=2287He's only been proven more right as time goes on.
>>585941814>while you handle our backendsGIWTWM
>>585941424I assume you feel for the noob trap of directly using engine pathfinding. Try layering on a separation steering function.
>>585941368>>585940641gaben already plotted out which accounts are goys and which accounts are cool.my page is exclusively 90% off deals so i think he will segregate people into ones who cant tell and ones who can
>>585942186she looks like she rims shotas
>>585940695>>585941424AI will give a better response then anyone here, then proceed to do it for you. But you obviously are not going to make it or you would have already done that. Sorry, 2026 is very unforgiving! Hahahaha~
>>585941814I'll become a vibecoder for this pic alone
All I want is a Russian barely legal fangirl cosplayer gf...
>>585943390>doesn't realize the guy they're fucking is not the developer but the AI>developer gets nothing
So all the aggydaggy activity basically ceased to happen, is that it?
give me coomer game ideas, the one i was going to make is already being made.
Why is Godot raping my UVs?
>>585943889Find an obscure 80s game nobody cares about for the gameplayInsert fetish girlFuck her as reward for clearing a levelThere you go pal
>>585943869>post decent progress>someone clones your shit>post bad progress>resident nigger yells at you about how terrible AI isYeah it's dead
>>585943591And I'm still happier than the honest coder that ends up worse than he started
My productivity has skyrocketed since telling Claude to act like a gyaru high school girl
Reminder, notch copied infiniminer's source code when it got leaked
>>585944150Are dino days over too?
>>585943587Me? I want a just turned 18 years old 1 picosecond ago fangirl Latina gf with big fat juicy tits on a slender petite body. She will be a massive fan of my game and immediately start doting on me. She will like my games so much that she covers her eyes when she enters the room I do gamedev work in so as to prevent spoiling her experience in my new games too.
So this thread went from amateur game development larping to 3dpd simpingYeah I think the AI taking over us is a good thing
>>585939689Yeah. Just look at how they still buy the ai games when triple a does it but screech at some indies and maybe buy it and leave a negative reviews, not always obviously
>>585941424You can use physics for it -> the one with more mass will simply force itself through. Or use something like context steering and propagate the desired movement vector to nearby units when starting to move.
>>585941424Boids. You Boids.
>>585944321post a sample conversation.
its over
>>585943587
doors keep closingand getting smallerand farther awayI missed all opportunities in lifeI won't have a familyI won't have a homeI won't have a game
AI can't clone personality, if your game has personality you're fine, if your game is cookie cutter you're cooked, simple as
a game where you help zoomers come up with new slang so they stop overloading "cooked" for every context
>>585946780>girls are attracted to a guy's personality>just have a personality, bro
Anyone have tips on how to have a boss do a lock on laser attack that isn't either undodgeable or completely useless? This is for a topdown game.
>>585947026if cris shitposted as much as he did here he would have 99 latina wifes
>>585947117tweak how fast it homes in on player and how long before shooting it doesn't move
>>585947117can have it start shooting ahead of the player then start turning towards him
>>585946768;_;Im getting scared my game might be too hard to make. Its not even the code, its the art (3d game btw) I fear I wont be able to make at a quality level befitting my vision.
im making a game that will have a graph editor to build behavior trees. godot has a node for this but it is horizontal instead of vertical. do you think it would matter for behavior trees if i left it horizontal? in theory the graphs could become pretty complex. vertical kind of seems like it would be better for this type of thing.
I've poured basically my entire savings into making this game, it's both kind of scary and exciting to be living on the edge like this
>>585947857tis going to flop
>>585947857Whoops, should have used ai would have been much cheaper
>>585948145anon's savings were $60 and he used it for 3 months of Claude
>>585947617That works. Thanks.
>>585946768If (you) give up they win
>>585938630>Oh your game got cloned? >Just make a better game you baby! Pull yourself up by the bootstraps!*Counter-Strike: Classic Offensive releases*>REEEEEE SHUT IT DOWN>HOW DARE YOU MAKE A FREE CLONE OF OUR DIGITAL CASINO!>DMCA! DMCA!
>>585944978>>585943587
>>585948521(You)
>>585896772What a poor anchor!
>>585938630Wahhhh they are cloning my dr pepper soda someone do something!!! literally every industry has knock offs why would video games be any different?
>>585948521>Counter Strike2 is full of cheaters>After years of inaction Valve finally issues a takedown on one of the cheat sites>It was a harmless cheat that allows you to change your gun's skin on your screen
>>585948535
>>585949265brownoid alert
me when i pull up to the agdg function and rape and clone everyones game with the ultimate workflow
Claude has been slow lately...
>>585950546
>>585950546They are throttling its speed. They want you to use fast mode which burns tokens twice as fast
reminderartistry is the most important skill in gamedev
>>585949265
I'm going to clone the Steam store with claude and pay people to put games on there instead of having them pay me. That'll show valve
>>585951106timmy plz go
>>585951106timmy, this is the 4chan tab, not twitter
DO YOU FUCKS EVEN MAKE GAEMS ANYMORE ? !?
>>585951192play mine on DD
>>585951040how did za/um's second game do?
>>585949186A lot of these big game companies always do it terribly>lots of terrible bugs>a few fun bugs>patch out the fun bugs>don't fix the terrible bugsLike seriously? And then>patch out a mod that lets you visually see a cosmetic differently than in game>leave the actual cheaters ruining gameplay inLike what?
Time is running out...
>>585951192I do. Just about to lock in. Way too many reasons/things occuring that make me fear time is running out on /making it/>ai clearly getting betterThat means the flood of new gamedevs will continue increasing along with huge spurts anytime it advances hard + cloners having an easier time + the more advanced it gets the easier it'll be for it to clone more complex games>more devsSimple and straightforward, a flooded market makes it more difficult to stand out>the continual rise of the quality barIt's only going to get harder as higher quality games are demanded, my skill can only advance so fast.Gotta finish this game fast cause I'm already feeling like I'm self sabotaging in the way I'm handling development. Feels like I might end up devving 5 years on it only for the differences between year 1 and year 5 being negligible both visually and code wise.
I'm hungee
@betz ONE OF THE VIBECODERS LEFT YOUR DISCORD! EMERGENCY EMERGENCY!!!
>>585952214>Feels like I might end up devving 5 years on it only for the differences between year 1 and year 5 being negligible both visually and code wise.That's true in general for complex games. Alpha version and release version look and play very similar on the surface
>>585952214>>585952854the bar is pretty low.most of the new devs do not dare to dream and seem to have not played almost any video games i dont understand it
>>585951862They patch the things that result in less money, that's it. Cosmetics are patched from SaaS because then they can't sell you cosmetics, and it is patched from competitive because it is a form of cheating if you make your enemies model have a giant beacon and the walls be transparent
>>585953356>the bar is literally in hell>men are simply trash and won't make any effort>they won't even go to therapyyou sound like a woman complaining about men
>>585952647kek
>>585951192I'm nearly done with my game, maybe about a week or less of work left to be done
>>585950268mfw we both are in jail cause you cloned my loli sex dungeon game
I guess I should hurry up the code part of my game before the industry crashes.
>>585952854>That's true in general for complex games. Alpha version and release version look and play very similar on the surfaceYeah. Just don't want it taking too long when I know that if I simply dropped all my minimum quality bars that I could finish it in less than a year from now.>>585953356>the bar is pretty low.Kek. You can go compete in 2036 then, I'd much rather compete back in 2016.
i cant stop sharting and it legit hurts todayanyone else
Reminder that valve's advice to developers in the AI era is >Start your own developer website to build a community
>>585955462Reminder that in 2026 these old guys are having more sex than college-aged guys
>>585955462Just walk in, look the manager in the eye, and give him a firm handshake
>>585955605Yes. Yes. Society is collapsing and this is why my game isn't going viral.
>>585955462Make.Better.Games.
can someone respond to >>585955405
17 days and steamworks hasn't approved my account
>>585955462Can't you do it on Discord and Xitter and Bluesky? Or even in the Community Hub on the Steam page? That reminds me I need to check the community posts on my Steam page.
>>585955863Because your games trash
>>585955782Pick.More.Cotton.
>>585954904>hey new guy join my gang >>585954253>>585955394im not complainingi fucking love it98% people made themselves retarded with the vaxx im convinced some people have brain inflammation or something its so unbelievably easy to make something good and original now especially with the ultimate workflow™
Did cris use vroid yet
Holy shit bros, I just produced the base mesh, now I just need to edit this model, add proper clothes and just retweak this shit until It looks good.Now I saved 50% of my job making characters.
>valve asked about the gigantic influx of ai sloppa>"it's your fault for making good mechanics">steamturds applaud what is the world becoming?
>>585956173i knew if i kept going on and on about the ultimate workflow you'd get off your assgood job
time is a flat circle.
>>585956173lol
Cris returns to his roots
>>585956173>pacifica is backsoul
>retards telling you art is dificult>mfw It takes five minutes to make a waifu
>>585955405Most of the food is poison now you should be scaling back
I need some adviceI had one pretty successful game and I've announced another game years ago and expectations are pretty high but I'm no longer interested in making that game. I have enough money to never work again, a loving wife and I just want to chill and maybe compose music or something. What do I do?
>>585957479pay someone to finish the game for you
which hair looks better?
>>585957592left
>>585957592leftbut just use both?
Does anyone have other posts or writing advice for VNs specifically? Looking for posts like How 2 Snoot it up that help with writing and planninghttps://support.cavemanon.xyz/how-2-snoot-it-up-part-3-writing/
>>585957592goblins are mammals? do they produce milk? what color is it? how does it taste?
>>585957592Jesus Christ. I'm out of this place.
>>585957740retarded link
>>585957745yellow tastes like eggnog
>>585957718nah, i want to stick to one MC>>585957745>>585957795the MC is now an elf>>585957795why? obviously they will be wearing clothes in the game
>>585957740Learn how to write a story before you learn how to make a visual novelA visual novel is just a novel but with graphics and choices
>>585957592Is this AI or something? Theres random black pixels on the hair like artifacts
>>585957941what? no, those are shadows
>>585957592gameplay?
>>585958013>making your game before designing/ mocking it upngmi
>>585957985shadows dont look like the right onereads like aislop with no understanding of art
>>585957985>>585957592ai pixel art is so trash
>>585957868Naturally but I'm looking for how devs stick to ideas and planning into a coherent draft especially when it's multiroute. It is a novel but it is also a game after all.
>>585958169>no understanding of artno shit, i'm an amateur. i can pink out the top shadows>>585958237not doing this again
>>585958252spoilers its not coherent and they are just making up shit as they go
I've realized that this general actively destroys my neurons. I'll be back in a year or two when I'm a successful dev and I'll brag about it while you'll still be arguing over cris or boku or fagoon. Good luck to some decent devs like photondev or paloodev or mortandev or the mechaguy. Aitrannies kill urselves plz. See ya.
>>585958384same i just tune it out and go to other generals on >>>/hm/ instead
>>585958384>>585958290aijeet made he got called out
>>585951054i look like this
Is there really autists who think they're going to become successful off a dragon quest clone with ai pixel art?
l'sisters...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7eDKgLQ120
I think it's a waste of time to obsess over art direction instead of just making a working game loop first.
>>585898438
can any local models code?
>>585958561not me, not AI>>585958636are there really amateur game devs who don't understand that this is a hobby you're supposed to enjoy doing and not a more convoluted form of daytrading/ gambling?>>585958783>game loopngmi. figuring out what type of game you want to play is the only way you'll be able to make something without burning out- "loops" are only good for demos.
>>585958848they can but youll have to tard wrangle them really hard
>retard doesn't know what "game loop" meansit means the core gameplay, do you even have your rpg battle system made with all its systems yet? you should have made that first
>>585958939>Dumb tard thinks "gameplay loop" means a friendslop game or literal loopKek, yeah I can tell you've never finished a game before. Read a book, Rajeesh.
>>585958939>"loops" are only good for demos.Dumb ESL. An RPG has a gameplay loop too, that's called the battle system and making it fun and balanced to play.
>>585958848Yes! However if you lack the hardware to run them at as close to their full quant as possible and with a large context you're basically dealing with someone that has a mental disability and it becomes frustrating.
Why are pixel "artists" always esl?
>>585959020>>585959093>>585959173are you fucking illiterate or something? making something that is literally just a 5 minute (or even less) gameplay loop is just a fucking demo roflmao>>585959481>3dtardespecially ngmi
>>585946780>implying that means anything when they ignore AI slop that hides the fact but will pile on you for admitting to using AI as an indie
>>585959481because the Anglophone lacks artistic sensibility.Just take a look at their entire video games output.They can't make anything actually beautiful.
>>585946780>And by personality I mean I saw the game on tiktok and my favorite eceleb said it was fire
>>585955695Don't forget to dress sharp, always smile and that your biggest problem is being a perfectionist
>>585958783ThisAs a solo dev you need to make something fun and polish the rest after the fact
>>585959839my biggest problem actually is being a perfectionist which is why it takes me a week to get the effect on button mouse over just right
>>585955462Back in my day I sold my game by hosting a website on my emachine personal computer which had instructions on how to mail a check to me to purchase a physical copy of my game. I had to package the floppy disks containing my game by hand. You kids don't know how good you got it.
>>585960064>>585960064>>585960064>>585960064>>585960064>>585960064>>585960064
>>585960060Perfectionism is the bane of all small independent artistsDrop that until you can live from your art, and then you'll have the luxury of being a perfectionist
>>585958384>Aitrannies kill urselves plz>the decent games he mentions all use ai>the mech game is actually the biggest offender as its all ai
>>585959587>still has no idea what gameplay loop means and thinks it's a literal loop of just "press action and attack!" systemsAnon your game is an RPG and RPGs are super hard to balance. Your game is going to be dogshit if you don't figure out how to balance it and make it fun to play
>>585960115this thread will get deleted again
>>585960282>just drop a character flaw, brothanks, that's genuinely helpful
>>585951192cant start a new game until i get a jobim too old to not have $20 to spare
in 2018 this was enough to earn 2000$ in a month https://store.steampowered.com/app/1232330/Theyest_Thou/
>>585951192Yes! I make games!
