>Latest patch:https://www.playdeadlock.com/cityneversleeps>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/https://deadlock-api.com/>Unofficial CompetitiveNewshttps://edl.gg/https://www.deadfrag.com/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>585849029
FUCK YOU RAT KING PICKERSYOU WILL BE NERFED
explain this
Good morning, I hate Danny.
Patch doko?
It's jarring seeing "that" part of the playerbase talking about Pocket with a singular "they" when talking about someone you can clearly see is maleYou always have to re-read what the fuck they're saying
venator's entire identity is ''be inside a building so you can press 2, or die'' but even this simple concept is too hard for people to follow making his winrate shit
>>585902035>fairfax industries wants to take part in some kind of eldritch brawl>sends a salesman and a research engineerIs Maximilian fucking stupid?
>>585902301hes there to advertise products frogtard
>>585902062thanks!
>>585902327Half the heroes are unemployed bums and Geist doesn't seem like she wants a wacky exploding jetpack albeit
Enough talking about nerfs, which characters do you want buffed?
I hate Mina so much it's unreal
>>585902406MirageDoormanBillySilver
>>585902406SilverMirageSinclair
>>585902406All the C and D tier heroes so Billy, McGinnis, Warden, Calico, Doorman, etc.Not Graves. Graves is mid tier even if you are Eternus. You aren't playing DNS.
I love Mina so much it's unreal
IN HERE, I AM KING!
>>585902471>>585902512>>585902550Fair picks. I'll be controversial and say I want a Vyper buff.
>>585902182Omg did she die?
>Gun is SHIT and 75% of lategame damage is SpiritI think the main issue is Valve (wisely) made actually increasing your gun damage directly with items very rare or difficult to do, meaning most gun items have on-hit effects or debuffs that are very unclear on exactly how good they really are. On top of this, Spirit items are simply more impactful and customizable to various builds, and given how fast and evasive players are with dodges, sliding, and the movement actually hitting people with your weapons compared to a big AoE spirit circle on a 10 second cooldown that deals 1/3 of their health anyway is just a better choice for players to focus on.I think the only real solution is to add more transformative gun items (homing bullets, wallbangs, alternate fire mode replacers, etc.) or make melee more viable for more characters. Currently I think Deadlock is at a pretty good balance where even spirit heavy or exclusive characters might still want to pick up a gun item or two, but yeah it's still pretty spirit focused by a large margin just in terms of how kits are designed. If the next 6 characters drop with 6 exclusively gun heroes that'd be the only way to balance out the roster and shop purchases lol, but we all know that ain't happening.
mina saved the game
:)
>>585902657She unironically did, anyone saying otherwise is delusional
>>585902629Only thing I'd want them to do is tweak her slide so its less prone to clipping on random fucking geometry hit boxes I can't see killing my momentum
>>585902646She got better
>>585902704>first ivy saved it>then mina>then silver>then... solomon?
>>585902657that patch saved the game so yeah she kind of did
>be abrams>everyone I go near gets assfucked>be my team>refuse to play around me even when I'm asking them to>wipe their team 3 times>get mid>do nothing with it because no one wants to push with rejuv>they wipe us 1v1 even with rejuv because retards gonna retard>still no one playing around the abrams>tell them we'll win if we just play around me because I can assfuck their only threat every fight with any assistance at all>still no one plays around me>loseI'm so fucking tired of this dogshit game
>>585902649The item rework will fix everything trust the plan
patch in 3
>>585902791Ivy did nothing>Mina>Silver + Venator + Graves>Danny
I honestly don’t mind doorman being able to close his door immediately. I guess he was just too powerful in high elo.
>>585902406Billy (give him tank stats that aren't double edged memes that get him killed most of the time)Drifter (by virtue of not add 5 fucking aoe slop characters on a map that is all about aoeslop arena fights)
All the new ults not going on cooldown when interrupted better not get overlooked in the patch. Game has a growing problem of inconsistency and undocumented exceptions to effects
>>585902862Ivy's is the sole reason you're even playing the beta right now newfag, watch your tone
>got chat restricted for saying retard to a 10k damage in 35 min retardnice, talking in this game is completely useless anyways no one ever listens to you. Pretty funny that it tells the whole server though
>>585902406game has more of an issue with the top being too good than with the bottom being too bad
>>585902856months? yeah
>>585902874it made him able to escape literally anything but it was funny so wtvr
>>585902406Venator and Mirage
>>585902649If there are 6 people in a fight and you're shooting one dude with your gun, you better be killing him. Whereas just splashing a bunch of spirit damage across six enemies is very easy with the amount of AoE there is in the game.
>>585903050fucking kek, another fat tranny redditor
did people just forget how cancer good Mirage is?he's my most played character and I'm fine with him not being strong after the rework>>585903028venator doesn't need buffs
GET THOSE NIGGER M1 CHARACTERS OUT OF THE GAME
>>585902970but you cant see their damage till the game is over
>>585903050if I wanted to see reddit posts I go browse reddit you fucking nigger
I'm tired of playing tanks that do all the grunt work with none of the rewardGive me a character that can just run it down in a sidelane the second a fight starts and always gets the walker + always gets away. And isn't Ivy
>>585903149There is a game for you where you don't have to aim at all.
>>585902406billyGTviscous
>>585903151I could see their gameplay, literally only farming jungle not even defending lanes.
>>585902649It is also a draft thing. What kind of cursed comp would be 50% gun? Practically speaking:>support is spirit>caster is spirit>bruiser is punch (gun) or spirit>tank is punch (gun) or spirit>ganker is spirit or hybrid>carry is gunMost drafts end up with 2 gun heroes and 4 spirit ones.
Tfw no bird hero
>>585903264And the reason you're in that elo? Hmm...
>>585903340make a bird hero sound occult and noir and then we'll talk
>>585902406shiv>b-butYeah shiv
>>585903340we have 2 but they're both elderly
>>585903368I don't know, I was Phantom before the ranked reset now I'm frog rank with a bunch of retards that don't know how to push waves or people that have 1k hours
>>585903139He does :(
>>585903215Wraith.
>>585903340tfw no sexy feral canine hero
>>585903340Tfw no barefoot loli hero
What is the skillshot dispenser ap champion in this
>>585903323I can 95% guarantee we will get more heroes that scale off gun stats and deal gun damage with their abilities. Specifically because it will balance out the two damage types, and the Deadlock team is out of ideas so they are hitting up the old moba tropes.
Rift Lost!99% 100%
>>585903340Add Beastmaster to the game right now
Its called greenwitch but its pronounced greeneech How
eeded to bloo
>(Almost) 11/12 of the way through 2026>I am forgotten
>laning with a drifter>he's a retard mongoloid faggot cuck nigger that sprints at the enemy and goes 0/10 in lane>laning with a graves>he's a retard mongoloid faggot cuck nigger that just sits back and does fucking nothing and goes 0/0 in lane and has 5k less souls than the enemy lanersjfc
>WARDEN IS SO COOL>HE'S LIKE MY HECKING MARVEL SUPERHEROS>HIS VOICE IS SO EPIC>HES GONNA HECKING KILL THE PATRONS
How do graves has 55% winrate that toon does nothing
>>585904242I like Leech because it's kinda the "do everything for everyone but a small amount" but it's a luxury item since you're never gonna get more value out of it then Vampiric for gun or Infuser for spirit (or Radiant Regen for that matter)
>vitality has trophy collector>gun has glass cannonwhy doesn't spirit have a stacking item
>>585904457egg
>>585903913tricksy british naming
here is your team's rat king who already has 150+ ranked matches worth of experience in this season alone
>>585904269why are you throwing a tantrum over the weakest m1 carry?
>>585904545>three purples>healing boosterwhat the fuck
>>585904545Let me guess, youre danny?
>>585903913would be funny if a non native speaker like mirage pronounced it wrong
>>585904269Why his bobby hat has the jewish masonic star
>>585904269must... not... gigaquote...
yoshi i demand you make this game for macOS and also finish the risk of rain mode so i can play it at work
>>585902969Ivy furtroons really are the most delusional part of the playerbase...
i exclusively play spirit vyperit's objectively garbage if you can't finish the game in 30 minutes but i've never found another build that causes this much seethingwizard lizard the vibes terrorist
>enigma doing ultIf light cannot escape me what hope do you have>dynamo doing ult I-im doing it kyaaa!! >.< Why deadlock is so reddit
>>585904874stars are the symbol of law enforcement dear amerigolem
>>585902757I just wanna slither on the walls and ceilings and ambush people like something out of Ridley Scott's darkest nightmares.
>>585905113rent free
>>585905113Dynamo is some fat college professor in his 60's bro.
>>585905113kek i remember you posting something like this like a year ago
I AM THE COSMOS
>>585905113I AM THE COSMOS
>>585905230I just started playing deadlock Good thing some other anon also had same line of thought
>>585905113Shit game nigga I'm afraid
>>585905113bro that guy is married
>>585905113you are reddit
>>585905083>i've never found another build that causes this much seethingFrom your enemies, allies, or both?
I see the professor
>>585902392Used my brain a little and cut the fat. Additional spirit feels redundant so dropping it into its own optional made more sense compared to whatever the fuck I was thinking earlier. Frees up the 12th slot for at least one item out of the goody bag instead of only grabbing shit from there when the need arises.
in combat healing is out of fucking controlevery lifesteal item needs to get kneecapped
yammy kissies
>>585905363bothyou can 1v1 anyone (tankbuster with 2 is a disgusting nuke that can proc during petrification) and take objectives instantly (daggers with RR have 1s cooldown and almost fully refresh the charge) while having dumb vyper mobility - enemy seetheyou fall off HARD and are kinda useless in teamfights aside from ult nuke+CC - ally seethe
>>585905450who even buys lifesteal items outside of the 6ks?
>>585905083>wizard lizard>King Gizzard and the Sliding Lizardpov Vyper sliding at mach 5 chunking half your health with a dagger only to venom and leavehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qskg6yvn8vc
We need paige remodel even doe viscous and sinclair and vibora still use their placeholder models because uhhh....she gets lot of animations and dialoge expositions of youtube shorts o algo
>>585904438Infuser is ASS though, no one builds it other than victor and even now people are catching on that Radiant is better on him since it does more for less
i swear matchmaking just decides which side gets all the new heroes and which team gets ALL the new heroes and which team auto losses.literally unplayable. surely they wont take several months to fix this shit and destroy their whole momentum.
>>585905830>o algo
>>585905912Or however the ritual is performed
>>585905113NOWWW!!!!!
>>585905830need a Paige remodel that reveals her tummy and visibly has paws pointed inwards on her hips
>>585905430don't sleep on hunter's aura if you're grabbing oranges, abrams is good at isolating peoplegood looks though
>>585905113reddit is what sells these days ok?
>>585905450They kneecapped lifesteal for this exact problem and then it came back in the form of radiant regen.
>>585906078I'M DOING IT
It would be better if Graves was a boy I think
What possible reason could there be for Silver having 2 stamina instead of 3 or even 4?
Dynamo is black?
>>585906401>he doesn't know about the nutty professorbros...
>>585906078I unironically really like this line, it goes hard
>>585906368She has an innate gap closer that replenishes stamina on hit and her wolf form is absurdly fast already
I play sinclair to do cool shit but every single time without exception I just end up split pushing the side lanes and running urns because no one gives a fuk about the moba part of the game
I think I give up on Silver, I think I'll start playing her boyfriend Abrams instead
>>585906401>kind, smart, lovely professor with a loving wife and familyCan't black.
Is valve the only company still making ginger characters
Playing Harrow so much is, ironically, making me a worse person as I seethe at my teams inability to do anything right and unlike our other supports she lacks any real wave clear or damage so I can't easily fix shit my self. I'm not really one for BM but I was seconds away from shit talking my whole team for the last 10m of the game last match.
>>585906130I've been pussy footing with hunter's aura for awhile now, might have to finally give it a shot
>>585906552>Abrams>Billy>Shiv>YamatoAll of them are in the same playstyle as Silver and have a gap closer but they also have 3 stamina
>>585906967max 1 and build TB early and her damage is fineher 1 clears waves if they're bunched near a walker
>>585906078>>585906294I'M TELLING THE CLASS ABOUT THAT ON MONDAY
playing as graves with my friend and having to hold back on roleplaying with the random apollo on my team
>eido had euros and russians in 8/10 matches yesterdaylollmao
>>585907574the EUgawds are coming to rape NAsissies
Atleast ziggers and yuros dont yap in voice chat about reddit chungus shit trying to clipfarm like burgers do
>>585906967Ricochet really saves her waveclear but it's not worth delaying other things she wants more. There's not much you can do aboit retards but I more or less just focus on healing and stimming tanky characters that wont be zipping around. You can save a mina or celeste but the way they play makes it way fucking harder to heal them
>>585907008They also do not replenish their stamina when they hit their gapcloser and they don't get bonus movement speed>ShivProbably more evidence thay he is broken.
>>585907701yeah bro they just scream in russian instead and think you understand them
>>585907701every single european and russian faggot doesn't shut the fuck up in voice chatfuck off
>join team fight>press 4>win itwho am i
>DUDE THIS MO IS SUCH A FUCKING PEDOPHILE!>BROOOOOOOOO THIS FUCKING PARADOX IS AN IDF SOLDIER!>ON GOD BRUH FR FR NO CAP THIS FUCKING MINA IS A GRAPIST!i'm so fucking tired of deadlock's playerbase
>>585907896VioletRat KingHarrowSolomon
>>585907798>>585907820In my games they just say fuck niggers or something at the end if they lost
>>585902406danny he's literally worthless at my rank half the time
>Ecelebs/pros are starting to actually play spirit victorVictor BROS... CODE RED... WE'RE SO FUCKEDMY ELO POTION IS GOING TO GET TAKEN OUT BACK AND SHOT
>>585904602i don't hate cooldown and duration on RK for more barrier uptime and more frequent ults but there's zero reason to ever be running greater expansion over ballistic enhancementhealing booster is pants on head stupid though yeah
>>585903050can't even be sure what body part this is, fatties are so weird
GET ME OUT OF STANDARD PLEASE GET ME THE FUCK OUT PLEASE I'M BEGGING YOU FOR FUCK SAKES THESE RETARDS WILL FIGHT LITERALLY ANYONE EXCEPT THE FUCKING OBJECTIVE. I DON'T WANT TO PLAY CARRIES EVERY GAME, I WANT TO PLAY TANKS.
>>585908058They think Victor is the elo potion. I watched that BR vs NA game, they got shat on by a Victor 1v6 lategame because they had no pos1 to contest the Victor while the Brazilians had a Victor that was ricing. Macro diff unironically. Like what the fuck are a bunch of tempo heroes going to do once their tempo hits a wall? Simply get raped.
>>585907951>stop having fun!
>>585908161it doesn't get much better in rankedit also doesn't get much better in the higher ranksand believe it orn ot, it doesn't get much better in eternus either
>>585907951your point being?
>>585908191Yeah I saw BE play him against the shitter D-tier eu teams and he wasn't that impressive honestly, still worries me though because certain heroes get nuked if they're played enough in pro.Baba should cancel it out to be fair since she's such a hard counter.
woah... i want to fuck paige
>>585906368She smokes and drinks too much
>>585908237you forgot to mention that it doesn't get better at nightshift either
>>585907795They don't refund stamina that's true they just>stun (aoe)>knockup (aoe)>high damage>longest gap closer in the game that spans half a laneOn top of having base 3 stamina, which is a lot more preferable and more useful than a dash that needs to hit a target to theoretically have 4 stamina, especially considering 3 stamina heroes tend to not have to buy stamina itemsBut you probably don't play any of these characters so I'm most likely wasting my breath
>>585908404You say that as if Silver doesn't have>displacement>free slowing hex>disarm>TWO gap closers
If im playing deadlock in 6 years i failed at lifeQuote me on that shit
>>585908352that explains why doorman is so ugly
>>585908504If you're not playing deadlock in 6 years it means technology has failed at replacing every work aspect of our lives
Buff Doorman. This is a threat.
>>585908673straightfag...
>>585908352Most people's faces are not asymmetrical to the degree that Mina and Paige's faces are, they're asymmetrical because they were modeled specifically for their selection poses and default posesViolet is the same
>asymmetrical faced beta womenvs>The Symmetrical Giga Stacey
which is stronger right now, dash infernus or gun infernus? (or hybrid?) I don't usually play infernus and want to try him out
>>585909059read what afterburn does then think about what you're asking
>watch zerggy's stream >max ult 2ndVictorbros, looks like we're safe after all. These ecelebs/pros still haven't recovered from the wallbreaker rape-ening
big sign of how cancerous CC has become that Unstoppable is bought literally every single game
>>585908352Paige's new face is completely symmetrical
people look at you and say that this character is attractive
Why do Eternuses engage in big slop fights every time the rejuv crystal drops, often wiping the entire team?
>>585909176if you thought the game wasn't going to devolve into everyone buying BKB you haven't paid attention to anything
Boy oh boy I sure love this meta where all the good heroes are the same good heroes as always + the new heroesHeaven forbid anything other than the same shit as usual be meta for more than 2 weeks before getting nerfed to F tier and we can go back to enjoying Haze+Wraith being in every fucking matchWe desperately need a balance patch that actually shakes things up
i think it's pretty telling that not a single eternus streamer or eternus youtuber or eternus pro is having fun with the game's balancing or matchmaking
>>585909293That hand looks sexy
>>585909407When have you ever heard those people say they're having fun?They only complain when something kills them while they're playing one of the many hypercarries
>>585909495the game was objectively in a better more fun state before this big patch
>>585909162He maxes 1 first?
>>585909293No, I look at it and say this
>>585909313>BKByou can just type unstop instead of autistically trying to tie everything in deadlock to some league of legends item
>>585909523>MercMagnum Spirit Overflow Warden+Wraith meta>objectively betterPeople have very short memories
as a leaguebab sinclair is the easiest thing i've played so far, on everyone else i just lose lane and get raped the whole gameare there more long ranged mages like him in this game
was wraith's pick/winrate even bad before she got the insane buffs (card suit + ult is now a displace patch)
>>585909640Viscous, Paige
>>585909640grey talon, solomon, paige
>>585909676yeah she was shit before she became a gambler
>>585909579dumb fucking monkey I was pointing out that the DotA devs are going to turn the game into DotA eventually go eat banana elsewhere
You like Mina.
>>585909920NoEven less so now that she actually loved pocketWay to ruin a character
>>585902035pros and toprank players in most games are pretty shit at gauging balance and hero strengthMost of the time it's just their gut feelings and vibes, of course better than the average player, still often garbage.This results in them ranking characters high that they SEE well played.Which also typically leads to the usual cope loop of "this character is garbage" -> *another player has good results with it* -> "man I've always known this character was good!", as seen in other games.
>>585909920yeah duh
>>585910157she doesn't go nopan like that...
still the only good mina cosplay since it's done by an actual asian girl and everyone else is an ugly white tranny
>>585909920yes>>585909965mina being 95% superficial instead of 100% is a good thing for her character
>>585910207and how would (You) know that?
are there any stat sites that aren't kiked to the gills?
Items that need to be in Deadlock ASAP
>>585910367everything is vibe coded by claude nowadays you dumb retard
>>585910284built for correction
anyone have "y'all just porns to me"
Reminder that Graves has a 57% winrate in top 10%
>>585910449sounds gay
>>585910284>mfw (Mina's face when) she finds out that Silver does not necessarily transform into a *female* werewolf
>>585910536yeah but I'm playing in the remaining 90% nigger what's your point
>>585910494nvm found itthis is lodged in my head in an annoying wayi can't play soloman without it intruding into my thoughts
>>585910536says right there that g raves has a 52% winrate and not 57%
>>585910449that only answers 1/2 of the question you stupid faggot
>>585910536now post Silver's winrate
I literally can't win on Abrams. I play well, I farm well, I build well. I go to help team, I get hard focused with no one help and I die for nothing. I get an insane engage and no one comes. The enemy groups and we don't and I just fucking lose. This is dogshit. Fuck this dogshit cancerous game.
>baba gets outdamaged by support viscousthis is my sign to stop playing for the night
>>585910837Abrams era is over
>The enemy team has a venator
Watching singsing playing bebop with utility build makes me think this clanker is broken bruh
>>585910278hyoon owes me sex in cosplay
Fuck, this matchmaking is so unfair. It broke my streaks.
>>585910292>>585910157how can she be so bottom heavy?
What to do when my retard teammate gets caught in jungle after 30 mins and they just take mid
>>585910942ELO landmine
Post your match history
>>585910925she only fucks rich skinny white boy streamers
Another tr*nny paige player complaining from minute 0 that ruins everyone's mental and loses us the game (They went 0/6/2) :)
>>585910385A long time ago I suggested more skills have charges and have items that burn charges similar to a mana bar since hero shooters have no resource management (and it would give counterplay to things like vic ult) and people were so revolted you would have thought I said I fuck trannies. Unless we have something like ammo pools/mana we can't have mana burn items
>>585911026>skinny white boyokay im 3/5ths of the way there surely that can get me a handjob or something
Rate my roster
>>585911070I think mana burn can functionally be replicated with a cooldown penalty after activation or a random non-ult getting put on cooldown after a buildup.
>>585911212ethical non offending pedophile-coded
>>585910292Sauce? SauceNAO gave nothing
>>585911726fourchannel.org
I can't never seem to understand Drifter build. I guess hybrid is the way to build him. Using slowing hex on unsuspecting targets really helps. Not sure if I want to be carrying knockdown and disarm hex on him, but it definitely helps.
>>585911880Yeah I figured it was a drawfag at this point
>>585902035You know, I only now just realized that Harrow's line about Solomon not being a Grandmaster means the game can either only take place in the 50s at the earliest or the whole "cultural acceleration as a result of the Maelstrom" theory people have is true.
>>585911070>>585911239Cooldown penalty items seem extremely fun on the surface but they aren't really "actionable" because you don't usually know what cooldown the enemies have on their skills, it'd just be free value against most heroes and even the heroes who are supposed to "counter" it or pure gun/melee characters or characters with passives would still get fucked over by it. I am not surprised they haven't added one even though it seems like a no brainer.Making so it ONLY worked on charges and not ultimates and making it relatively cheap so you can use it in lane against characters with annoying charge-based abilities would probably be the most tactical/useful implementation of the item but then you're just doing item hard counters which this game generally shies away from doing.
>>585912109Geist with glasses!!
>>585912009>832x1216>drawfaganon...
>>585910284>mina being 95% superficial instead of 100% is a good thing for her characterNah, she was better than she was a total goldigger bitch about Pocket. She showed her other side elsewhere like offering to re-stitch Victor.
My wife can beat your wife
>>585910284>>585912301(nta) i think her feelings towards pocket are still superficialshe probably still loved the idea of an upper class life with an idyllic husband but probably didn't know or care for pocket as a person all that well
>>585910942>i picked heroes i've never played before in ranked and lost every game>matchmaking is so unfair!you're the fucking terrorist hereevery nurse harrow i've had on my team for the past 10 games has been awful people legit dont even look up a build or test the hero
>>585912286I use drawfag and promptgod interchangeably, because they are
>>585911070>>585911239>>585912158You could make it so the item/ ability freezes all your cooldowns for x amount of time (maybe double for charge).This has less impact on ults because they already have longer cooldowns, but I suppose you could just make only apply to non-ult abilities if you dont want to screw over a Victor/ Geist etc who's seconds away from getting their revive, or other cases like that where seeing the players timer makes it way stronger.
mina's cold undead feet
>>585909523Retard
Who's the Sven of Deadlock?
>>585912301Why wouldn't it be in character for a goldigger to try to manipulate their paypig? Of course she'd say she loves him
>>585913125Warden, but hes broken (bad)
>>585913125no real equivalent especially since melee only characters in deadlock would be shit on but i guess abrams and yamato
Celeste has been fixedhttps://x.com/skindeadlock/status/2115052855392387327
>>585911239Cookdown penalty does sound like a good compromise. I dropped overwatch shortly after launch though because of the lack of ammo management and I wish deadlock didn't follow the same trope. There could be a lot of different support archetypes if they did things like puttin down a dispenser. Cooldowns and reload speed are technically a sort of resource management but I think something longer term that makes you think on a more macro level is better. It would balance out spirit characters too since they couldn't just spam forever
>>585911004we got our top scientists trying to figure it out
why do i kill things 10x faster when buying gun items compared to spirit
>>585913456baseline spirit res on stuff
>>585910906Yeah, Singsing actually got substantial pro circuit experience and he isn't some egocentric 19 year old. He should be able to understand macro on a much more substantial level than the """"pros"""" in Deadlock (it is kinda funny how Eido has recently been watching League and Dota2 VODs since he understands that no one in the pro scene knows macro lmao).The fact that Heroic Aura isn't bought every game at pro level is shocking.
hello america i queue with you now
maybe echo shard on the jar is the #method
damn apollo kinda shits on danny huhvery durable with his fat heals, if he holds his 2 you can't ever bomb him, very evasive so he's hard to hit, stays in the air most of the time so you can't hit him with strix, and has apollo ult to finish your bony ass offthe only advantage danny has is that he can noclip out of there in 2 seconds
i swear since i've got to mid ascendant i've got like a 30% winrate but since the loop is>win>get asc 3>lose>lose>losemy rank remains Ascendant 3 most of the time. I'm holding my team perpetually hostage.
>>585913708Fuck off, we're full
>>585913708>100msRussian/russian colony spotted.
>>585913812>>585913821deal with it :)
>>585912741I said I want lose streaks, you idiot.
>>585913853>make russia horrible>rusnigs leave for europe>make europe horrible>europeans leave for america>make america horribleNo one likes you. Not even other rusnigs.Reflect on that. (I know you are not capable of reflection)
>>585913757that's what i preferred back when i was BLAZING the trailthe skulls pretty much always become staggered and you're on them with M1 + capacitor pressure, which sets up your line+ghouls for the kill once they start panickingeven if they dispel the capacitor and/or have mobility it doesn't help much because hey, the skulls chase fliers
>>585910536My wife Ivy is so cute and strong
>>585913853>annoy people>>mad? )))this is the only thing in life ruskies find pleasure in doing btw, their only reason to not ack themselves.the trannies of europe lol"europe"
Wraithfags say she has a weak early game but doesn't the fact that she gets picked consistently in pro play prove that isn't true?
>>585913992>>585914071seething euroidswe don't care about russians we already deal with chinks and spics, only eurofags piss and moan about slavs
well /dlg/? an easy question
>>5859142494
>>5859142493 It's not actually that good until you upgrade it
>Jamlex Melee Tank Graveswhat is this guy doing>>585914019I was always an echo shard on 2 enthusiast but I'm slowly shifting towards the skulls, the enemy Danny was getting blasted to the point where (once the match ended) his teammate said he threw the game
>>585914249idk like 6 or 7
>>585914235any experience laning against a wraith proves that isn't true
How would a Sinclair redesign even look like? i dont like the fan models where its split in half i think thats lame as shit.
>>585902035Gas Danny and all his shitty defenders
Erm wraith can't ult you and insta kill you by bombarding you with all of her cards and be ahead by over 20k souls in lane so her early game is bad
>>585914240I wonder why It's almost like the world would be better off if they were all nuked>>585914249Mystic Regen sucks. RR is the OP one
>>585914235wraith with a card stack deletes people in lane
>>585913334>the basic bitch pick that like sitting in the back and let others play the game for themshe would be the Paige of this game
>>585914235Wraith is weak mid game. Lane she can dump cards, and late game she's late game Wraith. It's that inbetween stage where people can tank her cards but she's not Thanos yet where she's vulnerable and weak.
>>585914537I think the basic idea of Sinclai being a mannekin is good. I think you can have lots of fun with its animation by making it look "puppettered".As for the split design, I think the mannekin should have a face on each side of the head. I think his spectral assistant should show the original appearances of Henry and Savannah.I don't think the mannekin wearing the costume and top hat is fine. Just add a bit more feminine flair to it by adding some flamboyance to the cuffs and neck.
for me it's this graves build in eternus
Does Bloodletting make it so that Silver builds her ult slower on Shiv?
>>585914895needs more 6.4k items
>>585913125seven
>>585914895Titanic Magazine my beloved
Nurse 2 is the most griefable ability in the gameNo one knows how to use this thing properly so I just take extra damage for no reason
I build point blank + sharpshooter on apollo
>>585915450My favorite are nurses using it on themselves as if it will save them
>>585915450i do not play nurse harrow but isn't it something like>teammate is making a play (but likely not the first person to go in as they are drawing too much fire at once)>amp them with 2 to make them kick ass 30% faster>blast them with 3 heals to offset the incoming increased damage
>>585915573the play is to put it on someone that is about to die
>>585915450I keep getting it when I play m1sI mean thanks I guess now I deal one gorillion damage from the speed increase but I also die from a sneeze
>>585915450play haze and cleanse the debuff with 2 (haze is the only character in the game that can cleanse it ^w^)
>bomb bebop on my team
>>585916114Idk why they felt the need to get rid of self-bombing on him
>>585914937Yes I’m pretty sure, it’s just flat damage dealt so even regular tanks with resists will build it slower
Let's try something. I have a theory about certain heroes...>your top 3 played:>your highest level of education:>your region:>average games played/day:>do you play other games:
Solo standard as a tank Billy/Abrams player might be the most miserable dogshit someone can subject themselves to in 2026
Got in low priority and realized one thing.The players in there are not toxic and are just really really bad at the game.They are mostly getting mass reported because they are feeding or playing really bad.
>on a winstreak>game deploys the anti fun hitsquad>have to lane blue on top of it
>>585915494i max ult extremely early just so the 2 actually can save me
I'm learning Violet, should I even bother buying gun items other than maybe Mystic shot? Seems to like they don't really benefit her much and the slots are better spent on more spirit
>>585916278Not answering your personal info poll
>>585915573Its really good on people with good self healing or buffs like Wraith, Billy or Victor.>Throw it on Wraith as she goes in and pocket heal her>Also extend her full auto infinite ammo buff>She shreds and lifesteals/heals via card bursting a ton>Your healing also helps offset the damage>When the buff finally runs out you can pump even more healing (now without the increased damage taken) into the target to top them up and prevent deathVictor dying he does not care because of his ult and billy can a use melees more with an extended unstoppable from his ult.
>>585916278>Billy, Drifter, Abrams>Diploma (been unemployed for 10 years)>Australia>4 standard or like 10 brawl,. Previous map/before Violet and Danny faggotry it was like 10 standard a day>Competitive games? Just Dota. Games in general? I have 6 poorly translated Chinese martial arts Wuxia/Three Kingdoms slop games on my desktop that I cycle as the vibecoding devs put in patches
>>585916278>I don't play this shit game>Masters>Brazil>n/a>no, why would I?
Rat king deserves buffs.
>>585916278>holliday silver ivy>masters (unemployed)>eu>3-4>yes
>>585916450Just push 4 bro
>>585916542If by buffs you mean his hugs oversized stinking rat balls worshipped then yes.
>>585916225When did they?
>>585916450gun is a meme take this build
>>585916450Yea it’s worth going 4.8k, can either go mystic+opening rounds+swiftstriker or mystic+heroic aura
>>585916537Interesting, why are you here, then?
>>585916720Almost a year ago now. At the same time they killed gunbop and added the healing on his max tier 1
Is Archmother's half of the map just way better and safer than HK's? Bottom left for AM you have the theater, perfectly enclosed space that holds all your camps which are safe to farm and your double sinners which are pretty far back and no one is gonna bother you while you take themBottom left for HK, half your camps are in no-mans land in the middle of nowhere, clear sightlines on anyone rotating from mid or taking bridge buff. Your sinners are in a tiny claustrophobic shack WAAAAAY too close to blue lane where if you don't have prio on blue it's suicide taking themBottom right for AM you have the purple smog which hides you while you take sinners and the camps, and nobody ever really wants to gank in the one doing sinners in this area because the purple fog fucks your stamina. You can easily sneak these sinners even if you're behind and enemy has prio by quickly getting in grabbing them and getting back out.Bottom right for HK is chinatown, 500 routes to get ganked by/from when you're doing a camp, and your triple sinners fucking ANNOUNCE that you're doing them turning it into a hitler brawlfest every now and again. Impossible to take your own sinners here when you're behind because the enemy tank WILL appear in your asshole the second the gong ringsI just feel so much safer playing AM's side iit's not even close
When did they change warp stone to conserving momentum?
I just learned this MikaelS guy is Finnish and he suddenly makes a lot more sense as a person. The "chill vibes" are actually just fingolian autism and he's a god at the game because of national nerd genes
>>585916114>>585916225Is bomb bebop decent currently?
>>585916945no real reason
>>585917024Pretty much. Double sinners in particular are the most biased. Theater is a billion times safer and easier to escape (if the enemy is going to catch you doing sinners) than the Hidden King side's shitty rundown apartment
>>585917024No hk is better, before the map rework it was even more hk biased so am is better than it was which is probably what you are feeling
>nobody buys phantom strike for vindicta>have to do it on remim a predator
>>585917068He also used to be an item designer for Riot Games
>>585917024Yeah. HK is fucking terrible and designed by utter retards. A bunch of clutter put everywhere for the sake of saying they did it rather than to make a balanced map. Old map was 10x better and it's unfathomably to me that they take a step back each patch in exchange for better visuals
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>>585917096no it's been useless for a year
>>585917262bro your knockdown?
>>585917174Why are Harrow players so bad at the game? When there's one in my matches, they almost always perform this poorlt and it's not the case with other new characters
>>585909162That's what you're supposed to do though>2 upgrades into pain battery>1 into aura>Finish off pain battery>Max ult>Max the rest of aura upgrades>Max jumpstart lastThis is the most optimal path of upgrades if you want to be a real hero pre minute 20.
Is there any way to make the sound of heavy meles more obvious? I can't even hear this new sound properly, let alone adapt
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>>585917096I'm pretty sure the meta build is "bomb Bebop" by technicality since you're getting spirit items, but it's mostly supportslop like Knockdown and Slowing Hex. You just run around ganking like crazy with Trophy CollectorBuilding for your bomb exclusively(e.g. rushing Tankbuster) is dogshit. IF your match lasts long enough you can pivot to stuff like Mystic Reverb or whatever because you have a billion stacks, but that's a niche exceptional thing. Bebop (like a number of other heroes) is currently a platform for delivering support item active effects
>>585917392CarefulHarrow clique isn't gonna tolerate any critcism. You're gonna be accused of being a Violet falseflagger soon.
>>585917216I wonder what makes HK advantaged. If I'd have to guess its that the AM side has slower defensive rotations because of the open spaces and the fact that the pond is easier to invade (a HK Rem will be feasting).
>>585917478I haven’t done a deep dive in the new map but the old was camp placement+base geometry
>>585917437I just go Dispel because the game usually has alot of other bullshit to Dispel ontop of knockdown too>>585917421Mods, which probably will be fixed by release cause its broken as fuck for counterspell.
>>585917478If I had to guess, it's because of how good AM's side is and how it's safer to invade. Aggression and taking resources wins games, and AM can't really do the same back the fucking bell tower
>>585917642true but it still knocks her out of lunar orbit which is the most important part for getting pubbies to blast her
>>585917068Not only that, his fingolian genome also makes him predisposed to playing exclusively sharpshooter heroes (Shiv knives is a sharpshooting ability). The reason he is so strong is that he is in his natural environment when preying on russians.
>>585917719>Shiv knives is a sharpshooting abilitysharpshooting is a stretch that shit wider than the fucking lane
>>585917263why would anyone just go on the internet and lie
>>585917716Nah you can dispel knockdown before the stun, the moment its on your head just press Dispel and its gone.
Why is Valve raping stat tracking sites for deadlock anyway? They never had a problem with dotabuffI hate not having a site to check my own statistics
>>585914235People say early game is weak but once landing is over she becomes an existential threat with constant hard-to-interrupt farming (LIFTING LIFTING LIFTING) and the ability to just obliterate walkers if she’s ignored on a lane push for 5 seconds
>>585917719>sharpshooterGod imagine the absolute KINEMA that would be a stealthy poke-and-run sniper a'la Simo the White Death in Deadlock
>>585917808It is also very slow, at midrange you have to actively predict movement to hit it.t.Shiv main
>try to play Abrams/Billy>the most faggoty lane hitlers on the neemy team swap into my lane every single fucking time without failHoly fuck is it too much to ask that I don't feel like the reason the team is getting raped for the first 15 mins for one match
>>585917716>counterbuy faggots don't even know that knockdown can be dispelledLLLLLLMMMMMMMAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>585917716what the fuck man are you regarded you are making us look bad
>>585917875Are they? The only one that I know of raped themselves by preventing you from accessing the site with an adblocker, because they're greedy jeet faggots
>>585917924He doesn't play her right now, but MikaelS is probably the top Vindicta too when she is good.
Its over victor bros.The ecelebs have caught onEnjoy the free elo potions while they last until we get given the mirage/warden treatment.
>>585917096Go either tankbop or gunbop with hybrid bombPure bomb is ass
