Ultra Vegeta 2 Edition- Gekishin Squadra is getting a major overhaul- Xenoverse 3 announced and delayed to late 2027- Xenoverse 2 final DLC is out- Dragon Ball Super: Beerus anime premiered- FighterZ new balance update is out• XENOVERSE 3 - TGS TRAILERhttps://youtu.be/XIAhLfXH64U • XENOVERSE 2 - FUTURE SAGA CH4 LAUNCH TRAILERhttps://youtu.be/DFWpzSFTJco • SPARKING ZERO - SUPER LIMIT BREAKING NEO DLC SHOWCASEhttps://youtu.be/-yVuL6K1oMI • GEKISHIN SQUADRA - SSGSS GOKUhttps://youtu.be/BeHCaK_T6cs • KAKAROT - DAIMA PT2 LAUNCH TRAILERhttps://youtu.be/ZY6OAh_7KYw >Useful links:https://rentry.org/dft79XV2 news:>Future Saga Chapter 4 is outSDBH News/Resources:>SDBH has ended...We are all Heroes! RIP 05/09/24>SDBH Database: https://www.carddass.com/dbh/sdbh_mm/cardlist/>Deck Autism: https://rentry.org/sdbhdecklistDBSDV news:>The 11th set has released>God Rares: SSB Goku, SSB Vegetto, Corrupted Zamasu, Beast Gohan, Orange Piccolo, Cell Max, Xeno Vegeta, SS3 Xeno Bardock>Reflect Break Cards: SSG Goku, Ultimate Gohan, SSR Trunks, Piccolo, Whis>Modes based on Goku Black and DBS Superhero arcs>2nd Anniversary soon>Card List: https://www.dbsdv.com/cardlist/?series=598010>HOW TO FIND YOUR XENOVERSE 2 SAVE ON STEAM guide:steam > userdata > [your steam id] > 323470 > remote > DBXV21DBXV2.sav should be there, which is your savefileIf you wish to delete it to try reimporting or for other reasons, disable steamcloud on both Xenoverse 1 and 2 first.Kakarot news:>Daima DLC Pt2 launched on January 15thThe Breakers news:>Season 9 launched with DBZ Broly Raider>XV Booru: Upload drawfaggotry herehttp://xenoverse.booru.org/Rest in Peace, Akira Toriyama (3/1/2024)Thank youLAST TIME ON /dbg/: >>585539348
>>585940946The real Super Saiyan 3 Vegeta.
>>585941220>>585941002You are arguing that Frieza destroyed the Sayains and then Beerus came up to Frieza to tell Frieza to destroy the Sayians?
>>585941381Again, Beerus doesn't even come up in Minus; Super Saiyan and Super Saiyan God, yes, Beerus, no. This was an idea he makes up all on his own.
Beerus also claims he wiped out all dinosaurs on earth. either he has a bad memory, or he likes bullshittingor more accurately, Toriyama forgot
Art's fine but the 4th wall breaking humor not so much
>>585942727They just tried to come up with something that would make it feel like Beerus was there so long ago so they went with "errm.. dinosaurs idk". It's a silly joke with no real implications
>>585945863Toriyama shows up in the Buu saga
>>585942038But Beerus in all version of BoG so far says he told Frieza to kill the Sayians.I don't think anybody claimed Minus said this.
>>585947717Difference being that Toriyama being there isn't the joke and more the *result* of a joke. When it comes to DBM, all of their comedy is either shitty references or 4th wall breaking.
>>585948567But Toriyama being there is the result of a 4th wall breaking joke by Krillin
>>585942727>Beerus also claims he wiped out all dinosaurs on earth.The movie's extended version had a dinosaur showing up when Goku and Beerus were fighting on Earth, so that's even funnier.
>>585948746The joke is that Goten and Trunks have to fuse again and again because of their failures, and the dance panels are the same so the conclusion feels natural and earned. It's not "hey, aren't the Dragon Ball characters dumb for fighting 1v1? Lmao, have you been reading the online forums this time too?"
>>585948892Dragon Ball characters don't honorably 1v1 for the 1v1s sake, barring the Buu saga which is generally not very good, and Ginyu force also does it, but we are supposed to think they are retarded faggots so...
>>585948238And Beerus telling Freeza to do that is irrelevant to Freeza's own thoughts on the matter. Freeza is presented as plotting to do this on his own. Like if your boss came down and told you to fire the HR department when you were already planning to fire the entire HR department.
>>585949380I don't know how you can say that when we can't know that. We don't have Frieza's internal monolog, and we don't know if Beerus said that to him before or after Frieza gathered all the Sayians.
>>585949828I can point to this >>585942038 as the only actual statement on the matter. Freeza doesn't mention Beerus, he doesn't have an internal monologue about Beerus, there's only his own plot to kill all the Saiyans because of the reasons he verbally outlined. If you have something to the contrary to show he was doing this BECAUSE of Beerus that isn't speculative, I'd certainly like to see it.
Supa Begita Suri
>>585949236That's besides the point, you should be able to write a story beyond cheap 4th wall shit
>finally decided to watch the squadra LivestreamPeople weren't kidding when they said toshi was holding back tears. That was a very painful stream to watch
>>585942727>>585948782Toriyama definitely forgot dinos were still alive, but I guess you could easily wave it off by having some rando wish the dinosaurs back ages ago.
>>585955813>some randoArale saved the dinosaurs, it's established in Dr. Slump
>>585949380>>585949828>>585951210Xenoverse 2 backs up "Frieza was going to do it anyway" when he says as much to Beerus
>>585951210>Beerus told Frieza that and it had no effect on himThat is also speculative, but even Golden Freiza is scared of Beerus.
>>585956538You're losing the plot here anon. Occam's razor this: do we go off of purely speculative assumptions on Freeza's internal thought process about Beerus and him taking orders, or do we take the statements as presented? Because Freeza being scared of Beerus can coexist with him wanting to kill the Saiyans for his own reasons, ones he outlined himself verbally mind you. I can again use the example of your boss telling you to fire the HR department when you were already planning to do that; being scared of your boss firing you on a whim doesn't suddenly make that original idea you had vanish into the ether like it never existed.
>>585957613No the motive doesn't vanish, but I think occam's razor, dictates that, Beerus coming to Frieza during his plan to eradicate the Sayains would be an insane coincidence, especially in Broly which is also Toriyama's work and more recent, removes the 1 month time skip.
>>585959114That's not what Occam's razor is, anon. The theory that makes the least amount of assumptions about the facts presented is the preferred one; it's nothing about coincidences. You keep trying to add in more speculation about the thought processes of those involved, especially Freeza, when the more simple theory is the one that takes the statements as they're presented.
>>585959768It is an assumption that Beerus talked to Frieza after Frieza was killing the Saiyans.
>>585959768>>585960362By the way this is all denying the line BoG meaning, you are saying it had no effect on anything, and the only way it effects perception is to give many members of the audience a wrong interpretation, that gets cleared up by a special issue of a diffrent manga that comes out 1 year later.The line is a bad line, and shouldn't have been put in right?
>do vegeta raid>suddenly connection was lost>with 30 seconds remaining
Did the custom mentors get buffed or is it just a visual thing? some don't feel stronger but their stats *look* better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEYdWTPbXu4They put the cut dialogue into a whole ass trailer why is this franchise so poorly managed? No doubt this was meant to reveal xenoverse 3 properly before time mismanagement fucked their plans
>this guy was aparently one of Freeza's strongest men left before RoF, he found a super dragon ball by chance only to encounter Champa stealing it and destroying him, this makes Sorbet give up and go for the suicidal plan of going to Earth to use their dragon balls, which ends up with Freeza's resurrection, all thanks to Champa, connecting all three stories together (Beerus-RoF-Champa)This was actually cool, it's a shame the anime will almost certainly not add him
>>585960362>>585961119Do you know the difference between "the least" and "no" assumptions? A theory needs to make some because otherwise it'd be a simple fact that you can look up, like Freeza saying he wants to kill the Saiyans. You're presenting a theory that's making more assumptions about the intentions of the characters based on the facts presented than what was outlined. Do we need to go into the differences between Watsonian vs. Doylist narrative readings too? Because based on what you're fixating on here I can see where you're leaning, though incompletely.
>>585862268I hate it but I don't care enough about the Dragon Ball Super manga to seethe about it even if the writing is questionable, and author has to do a lot of mental gymnastics/gaslighting to rehabilitate Bardock. I do think however that Toriyama has this tendency to either overexplain himself on subject matters no one asked for which makes the characters and the world more boring or he has this tendency to overcorrect himself which trivializes other characters like Goku. Speaking of, why DOES Goku need to exactly learn about his parents? He never gave them a single thought in the original manga and has never sat down to truly think about Bardock and Gine for over 30 years since the concept of the Saiyans were introduced. Goku isn't like Naruto whose character is actually defined by bonds and his yearning for a family he never had. And Goku's character is just fine the way it is; he has a flat character arc. Goku doesn't change because he has a solid understanding on who he is, what he likes and his place in the world. Part of what makes Goku a good character is that while he changes other characters and prompts life changing events in Piccolo, Gohan and Vegeta, Goku himself doesn't change or has any life changing events. What does learning about Bardock and Gine add to Goku's character that he doesn't already have? He already came to terms with his Saiyan heritage back on Namek.
>>585978440>I do think however that Toriyama has this tendency to either overexplain himself on subject matters no one asked forThat's not Toriyama at all.>Speaking of, why DOES Goku need to exactly learn about his parents?Because they had a cute goodbye in DBS Broly and Minus and it's a shame if you do nothing with it. I don't like how Toyotaro did it tho.
Bump
What don't you like about Xenoverse 3?
>>585946513I just think XXI is hyper lame. His thing is he just wishes for a way to defeat people and just. Gets away with it? Like he just wins?
>>585978440>Goku doesn't change because he has a solid understanding on who he is, what he likes and his place in the world.Tbf, there was that weird bit at the end of Cell saga but that just kind of got undone
>>585986801>supposed to be a "whole new world of Dragon Ball" but it's only West City >Androids as a race but no Demons, and they rub it in our faces by giving the demons a whole new OC form >seemingly no Toriyama-made Frieza OC>graphically underwhelming, looks passible for a Xenoverse sequel, but very basic looking models, mid expressions, and subpar visual effects. Besides a few correct colors here and there, feels more like every other dragon ball game and not something you would think Toriyama had a hand in, like Sandland or DQ>literally all the villains we've seen so far are robots and AI versions of DB characters, very much like the Xenoverse franchise to be this lame compared to what Heroes and DBO offered but there's still time to show off more>adding on to that they doubled down on how soulless the mentors felt in the other DBXVs by making them digitized souls or some shit >explosions still feel like wet farts, especially for the ultimate attacks, you'll be firing the biggest kamehameha ever and it looks like a small gust of blue smoke>generic sci-fi HUD>SS3 hair is just a Goku recycle
>>585986801When AGE 1000 first got revealed I knew it was going to be XV3 but I was hoping I was wrong and it was actually an offline, ARPG reboot/remake of DBO with Kakarot tier animations. Every time I see new XV stuff, it makes me wish we had got that instead and after the last batch of videos I'm hoping they take another 3 or 4 years to restart development one more time and give us that.
>>585987886Anon I think it's beyond wishful thinking to assume that they're going to drop everything they've made so far and entirely redo the game into being something else after revealing it. Redoing games like that tends to lend to shit products, anyway.
>>585942038God this dialog is so fucking bad
>>585986801The latest build looked uglier than the previous one for some reason
>>585986801>>585989242Oh and Freeza Race getting hit with the 'Purification' curse the Majins had.
>>585989368I think it's a better version of it. It still has the old guy's face.
Favorite Z movie?
DESU you can probably make any Z movie look good if you're just picking out the choice bits of cool animation. I always thought lord slug was on the weaker side simply because slug himself isn't really much of a fun or interesting villian. His choreography isn't really all that fun or inventive compared to stuff like Cooler or Turles. I personally got to give it to Cooler, in my opinion. Toei just does a lot of fun stuff like piccolo's arm chasing the guy through the trees and all of the wacky angles against 5th form cooler.
>>585990140I don't care, it's SHIT.
>>585989368Blame Cooler and Frost for barely even changing up the look. Maybe you'll get a Fourth Form at some point. lol
>>585991512
>>585991873
>>585992227
>>585991820I don't mind the characters looking alike, I mind wasting a transformation slot out of 3 on purification-lite with none of the lore appeal. And we're guaranteed that another spot will be taken by 100% form and it'll again just be Purification but with 100% Freeza instead.
>>585992526
>>585990092Is she the protagonist?
>>586001478Would be funny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjax6GvY3bE
>>586003805Looks cool
>>586003805>3 chads>1 literalwho
>>585971941Sure if we pretend all assumptions are equally valid and we are pretending not to know what an implication is, we can say that.But "this character is lying/wrong" is always one assumption, while attempting mesh what they said with the actions on panel, requiries at least one if not two.This all could have ended several hours earlier if you were just going to say "No Beerus didn't tell Frieza to destroy the Sayians while the Sayians existed."
>>585991820It is mostly Cooler's fault, Frost is doing what cooler did. Cooler is very popular, standing head and shoulders above all Toei characters except Broly and *maybe* 13, so when making Frost you have Freiza and Cooler to go off and they can both transform 1st-4th form. Cold and Chilled just don't have the presence to stop this misinterpretation.
>>585990737I like how out of all the bizarre interpretations Toei spawned, the one that didn't stick was Goku killing minions, when that is at least debatably in character
>>586018590but he killed Yakon
>>586003805Holy shit what the fuck? This already mogs the last Jump game
>>586019207That didn't permiate through the fandom discourse. That one time with the Ginyu force did.Keep in mind that most fans have seen less than half of the sagas and in the Dub version, which intentionally mistranslates character moments.
SSJ4 as front and center before UI
>>586019207Yakon killed himself with his greed, he could have stopped at any moment.
>>586021241No, Goku killed Yakon by going SSJ2, which kills Yakon before they can react, which Goku seemed to understand as what would happen.
>>586020326>most fans have seen less than half of the sagas and in the Dub version, which intentionally mistranslates character momentsAmerikeks are so embarrassing. No, thank god you guys aren't "most fans"
>>586021673Goku was feeding Yakon because Yakon wanted his energy. It was his own decision to do that and so it was his fault he bit more than he could chew."Huh but Goku did give him a lot to chew!" isn't an argument, his hands are clean here.
>>586021116And here people thought they would put it in BoG to get oneshot by Beerus. I wish this fanbase understood that DB functions on marketing the newest thing
>>586021116Nice; Path to Power Goku
>>586022983Yakon didn't know what SSJ2 was. You just said Yakon could have stopped at any time, what happened to that.>so it was his fault he bit more than he could chew.Litteraly Goku's fault and descion to not even warn them that there is a level beyond SSJ1.Krillin once asked Goku to not hold anything back, if Goku used his technique that makes him invisible, uppercut Krillin before launching a hot end forward Kamehameha melting Krillin. That would still be Goku killing Krillin, that's why Goku didn't do that.
>>586017774>and *maybe* 13I don't really think super android 13 is that popular at all is he? Turles is more popular than him given all the stuff he got in heroes
Yakon was a demon anyways. He had no human rights.
>>586025036DAIMA DID WHAT!?
>>586025036I thought he was an alien like pui pui
>>586025036This isn't a moral issue
>>586024406Well 13 is definitely 3rd-5th most popular Toei character here in the west. I suppose it's a cultural fanbase split.
>>586027201I still really do not think he's all that popular. Like I think he's in the top 5, but in the way that there's an extremely large powergap between Broly, Cooler, Turles and then everyone else
>>586027296I think 13 whoops Turles ass over here. I would argue; Broly (power gap) Cooler/Baby (power gap) 13/Omega Shenron (power gap) everybody else.
>>586003805>random mirko in the middlei see OUR MODDER has taste
>>586027646I just haven't seen that much that would imply 13's all that popular over here. You got the 13 dollar haircut meme and him punching goku's balls, but like as a VILLIAN in his totality I don't see people using him much. Over in the fanfic space turles is hyper common to see but I basically never see 13 around
>>586027865Dragonball fans can't read Dragonball, the amount of DB fans reading fanworks isn't going to move the needle.DB Youtubers popular with normalfag fans, always seem confused on why Turles keeps showing up.
>>586028303>>586027646>>586027865Bardock!? Hello? Bardock was made by Toei and Toriyama put him in the manga after.
>>586030056I was just thinking of movie villians only, desu.
>>586030165Well the word Toei character was what was said
>>586030581yeah and when I think of that I think of the movie characters or gregory, bardock is technically a toei character but he also just outright shows up in the manga
>>586032158He's a character made for a TV special, you wouldn't consider Broly not Toei character just because Toriyama adopted him after the fact.
>>586032551Super broly's a whole ass different character from z broly, tho. Also this has nothing to do with how objectively bardock is a toei character or not, I simply don't think of him in the same breadth as I think of movie characters/ gregory.
>>586027201>>586027296I'd argue Toei villains popularity is something like Broly > (Power gap) Cooler/Turles > (Power gap) Janemba > (Power gap) 13. And the only reason you can even argue 13 stands above the rest is both because the other villains are all super forgettable and don't have any memes surrouding them (30$ haircut, him punching Goku's balls), because nobody really cares about his character, since there's barely any. I wish I could say Wheelo is more popular than 13, but the memes surrounding 13 do give him a lot of relevance. Plus 13 tends to have more presence in video games...
>>586032678I mean like Bardock is no more of a Dragon Ball (Manga) character, than Arale is.
>>586033758Again, objectively the bardock people care about is a toei character, I just don't catalogue him in my mind with all the other toei characters because he's more directly canon to the original work.
>>586033335When we are talking about popularity it doesn't matter if they truely care about the character or not, do you understand the level of understand normal fag westerners opperate on with Goku, Gohan and Vegeta? It's bad.I think you are corrupted by your niche part of the Dragon Ball fan base. Western commentators reacting to roster releases and shit, usually are confused by Turles when he gets preferential treatment over other Movie villians, I think normal westerns think of Slug more than Turles, but once you are at that level it is really hard to tell. Garlic Jr, Wheelo, Turles, Slug are all in a desperate struggle for second to last place while Hirudegarn easily secures last place.
>>586035546I feel like garlic junior gets a boost because of black water mist. no one LIKES black water mist but its infamy at least means people think about garlic more than they do slug
>>586036318Bros, I can't believe Bandages won over Beerus, Goku, Vegeta, and Broly...
It's hip to fuck bees
>>586042829>Pan, for being our Queen for 100 years, we grant you the right to use our Monmaasu Dragon Balls!
>>586044472100 year old Pan would be too much a hag for me. In fact, we should shave her down 3-4 years from her GT self.
Dragon Ball fans be normal. Challenge Level: Impossible
Compared to the width of their torso's, Piccolo's last three children actually have similar limb proportions. So if they are born children and then aged, they would be normally proportioed in that department the problem (not named Tambourine) is that their heads, Piccolo Jrs head is the only part of his body that gets proportionally smaller so they would have little tiny baby heads.
Pan is middling. You just have nostalgia.
Attraction is subjective
Objectively, there's nothing attractive about Goku.
>>586066060Wrong>>586066307Correct>>586066970Wrong
I'm right. Goku? Unappealing.His hair? Messy.His body? Ugly.His drip? Unfashionable.His personality? Wack.His height? Asian.His penis? Tiny.
>>586066970Goku is a powerful, confident, and in shape. These are traits aggregate human females desire strongly.
>>586067726he's not much of a romantic, and tends to be away from home for very long periods of time. Physically I feel like women would be into him but Goku is NOT husband material
You will NEVER have Goku
>>586067835Statement was not "Goku is not the ideal" statement was "There is nothing attractive about Goku"
And there isn't. Goku? He STINKY.
>>586067835>he's not much of a romanticNot really a deal breaker, the bigger problem is how unsexual he is generally in anyway. The majority of women admit to rape fantasies.>and tends to be away from home for very long periods of time....I guess the year on Yardrat... but Goku only leaves home after marrying Chichi because somebody (usually him) is dead.
https://forms.gle/Bd6sz3SwWEo1uraP6/dbg/ roster poll is still ongoing! vote for who you would like to see on the team!
Make sure to vote Goku OFF the team
>>586069157Goku will NEVER force himself on you foids. You'll have to force yourself onto him; and that will NEVER happen.
Did I not talk about women in third person Women don't use 4chan in large numbers anyway
Anyone know where to get a raw scan of Dragon Ball Resurrection F Manga?
>>586072578>Women don't use 4chan in large numbers anywayMost you get is /r9k/ if I'm not wrong.
>>586003805>official Jump game coming out>it's a moba>Gekishin Squadra is failing in real time and about to change its entire gameplay but they're still going through with this bullshitWhat's Bandai's problem. Seriously. What is stopping Bandai Namco from making a good Jump crossover game? Literally all they have to do is make it a fighting game and have good looking models and animations. They could even make it a gacha, it'd actually give them the window to shit out a bunch of characters and get more money. Why is this so hard for them?
>>586074978>Official Jump game coming out that's a MOBAOh you poor soul. That game is going to be locked in China forever.
>>586075127>Chinese exclusiveThat's even more frustrating actually. China should know better. They usually emasculate Bandai with their anime games, why make a shitty MOBA gacha nobody's going to play and will die in 3 years when they could have made an ARPG or fighting game gacha? Not only would their primary consumer base eat that up, but you'd have foreigner money raining down and people begging on their needs for a global release.
>>586072578>>586074764I've seen them in other generals; they're nuts. One of them posted a pic of her panties stained with her period blood.
>>586075925What does "in large numbers" mean!?!?!?!?!!?
>>586076017at least, like. 7.
>>586076017I don't know, more than half? Like /lcg/?
>>586075925>they're nutsWell you have to be to frequent a male dominated, incel filled, shithole like 4chan. A man frequenting anywhere filled with femcels wouldn't be sane too.
>>586076467Speaking from experience?
>>586076612No, just saw screenshots. I was surprised to learn they have a counterpart to "slutty woman has a loose pussy", claiming men who have sex with a lot of women will have dicks with smaller girth because pussies squeeze dicks that hard. Aside from bogus stuff like that, femcels naturally are misandrists so any man interacting with them is probably not sane.
>>586077701nobody actually believes that, it's a shitpost.
>>586079140>Nobody actually believes in rosties>They just say it in their manifestos for fun
>>586079140>nobody actually believes thatYou overestimate people's intelligence. A lot of absolute retards out there.
>>586021116>they put the most recent Toriyama form from the most recent series right in the middle!Kay? Meanwhile I'm laughing my ass at how they put NINE fucking Gokus there and not a single one is from GT lmao, I guess the whole "let's erase every name that isn't Toriyama" also works here, they want to bury GT now Daima exists.
Shit, I forgot about the festival
This is the fate of all who defy the red ribbon army!!!
One thing I noticed that people aren't talking aboutThe charater you copy your fighting style from to you during the battle , I saw Kefla chime in praising the CACThere are only 8 save slot just like xenoverse 2, however it's impossible now to have a file for each race and gender with the edition of the androids but if they introduce 2 more races you'll have a save slot for each race, other than the demon race I don't know what other race they could add,tho.All awokenings are 2 stagers now Earthlings have Kaioken x3 to Kaioken x20Saiyans have Super Saiyan to Super saiyan 3 omitting 2 entirely Namkikans have Power awakening and likly OrangeFreizas have Final Form and 100 percent full power, we can see the transformation icon but nobody ever actually performed it on screen but some players say they managed to do it during their tests and it's just Freiza but buffer with your CAC's head on it. With this in mind what two tier awakenings could they have for the Majin race and the Android race , even Purfication doesn't make sense to give ot them unless it's turning the majin from Kid Buu to Super BuuAndroids are a complete mystery
My majin vegeta finally came in the mail, I also SH Figuarts trunks and super vegeta, da! along with SSGSSE Vegeta!
>>586089061Hot>>586090956>One thing I noticed that people aren't talking about>The charater you copy your fighting style from to you during the battle , I saw Kefla chime in praising the CACThat's cool.>All awokenings are 2 stagers nowI've seen people say 3 stages.
>>586091974Also got*, so excited I couldn't type right!
>>586091974Looks great.
>>586076467>male dominated, incel filled, shithole like 4chan.Got a problem with that, foid?
>>586092897Thank you, that's over $200 right there!
Universe 11 is in first place!?
>>586092998Damn.>>586093038Jiren decided to wake up in the final and is just stomping motherfuckers I guess.
>>586093038That point bonus is hard carrying, but u7 has over 8k players (on console)
>>586023529>Yakon didn't know what SSJ2 was>warn them that there is a level beyond SSJ1.Are you retarded? He doesn't have to tell him "hey bro I actually have sequenced transformations you have only seen the first one but I have a second one, technically fourth if we consider the ones I learned and discarded seven years ago, ready?"Yakon was absorbing his power. Goku increased his power. Yakon was killed by his own gluttony.>You just said Yakon could have stopped at any time, what happened to that.Yeah what happened to that? It's true.>Goku wouldn't just let Krillin die for his own decisions!Yeah, Krillin is a righteous, kind hearted person. Yakon is a demonic creature (literally called Majuu = demon beast in japanese) who was trying to brutally slice Goku up and let him die a painful death while the power from his injuries feed another demon (Buu) all after draining him of his life force's light.Letting evil die by its own decisions is fair and follows the budou way Goku usually abides to.
>SkoT is the camaraderie partnerNeat...but I'm gonna have to use sexvoice As- I mean Chronoa
new artwork from the login thing
>>586094542They should REALLY integrate forms into the story. It's so weird seeing the CaC struggle in base form, make the bosses look like non-threats
>>586094929Yeah, it does look odd, like Ace/Ban are supposedly super powerful but transform, then suddenly go on to wax a bad guy, while my cac or goku is SSGSS, kinda rude
>>586095237won't transform, I mean, and I just remember Towa mind-controlling the previous XV's hero, or my XV1 cac, and they still don't transform, I get why but it kills some of the moments...
>>586095237>>586095430Yup, that's exactly the issue.
>>586093157>>586093149I joined last time but we lost
>>586095770RIP
I hope we can get more unlockable costumesAnd funny story; as I entered the festival my CaC is basically Supreme Kai of Time and as I encountered her npc version, I spotted a player with the exact getup.
>>586096293That's cool
>>586095430>>586095237Well said, I made a quick headcanon about Towa using my previous mentor to get back at my CaC, Dralloc, in an attempt to make him jealous after ruining her evil plans and turning her offer to join her down, SKoT trained him not to fall in love with bad girls! well, not ALL of 'em, He ended up marrying her in the timeline she originated from, before it was reset by SKoT, luckily Dralloc was a rookie in those days, lol>>586095770looks like u7 is winning in the "PlayStation timeline", no idea about PC/Xbox though.
>>586096293you created a time paradox!
Ah, looks you don't get SKoT's custom partner from fighting her, well, at least I got the art, kinda bittersweet to say goodbye, again lol
>>586099109Unlocking and purchasing unobtainable items from events is hard for newcomers
>>586099358I'm not new to XV2 , so I know just how bad RNG will try to screw me over, I've actually been playing xv2 since 2019/late 2018 too, crazy to think about it, Burst Kamehameha was the one skill where RNG owned me and about 15 other z-souls, no save editors for console players!
>>586099109>Trunks and Fu swapping swordsAdorable.>Thank you! Good bye!!Man, now I'm emotional.
I can't believe we'll never see boss again...
>>586099864>no save editors for console players!Or mods that change drop rates.
>>586101174yup, everything earned the old-fashioned way!
>>586100468>>586100972Be sure to visit her every now and then!
>>586100972>I can't believe we'll never see boss again...Who knows...
I want to fuck Chronoa
Chronoa shoving a timescroll between her ass or her chest
Just who is the number one Xenoverse player
>>586103814Hot>>586104112Me
>>586103814Chest >>586104112which platform?
>do the cell raid (lite)>me and the boys curbstomp him.....or wori wa shock him to death with an Emperor's Death Beam.>I witnessed 50,000 (the health bar was halfway or a fourth from depletion on the main sub menu?) HP being dropped to zero within the time limit.never have i transpired such an event.
F for Akira Toriyama's house and Bird Studio being demolishedhttps://x.com/R18I015P/status/2115985017260397047
>>586111432Why tho?
>>586111079Congrats, anon
>>586093890>No warningYes knowningly feeding somebody something that will kill them under false pretense is murder. We have many cases of people getting found guilty of murder for poisoning.>Yeah what happened to that? It's true.And in Jojo's Polpo could have stopped eating the bananas in his room, but I don’t know why he would since he had no reason to believe one was magically a gun in disguise. Everybody agrees Giorno killed Polpo.>Actually its good to kill YakonNot the argument. It's also good to kill the Ginyu force, or Vegeta, or Frieza.>Letting evil die by its own decisions is fair and follows the budou way Goku usually abides toI don't think Goku ever does this ever before or after. Unless we are claiming shooting people with Ki blasts directly with the intention of killing them, or ripping them apart with your bare hands, is "letting them die of their own actions" instead of killing now.
>>586111432Fly up high, Bird.
>>586111432Nothing will ever be canon again.
Is this the age of evil scientist women?
>>586117817Are we getting one in XV3?
>>586111432Iyoku's management is genuinely destroying Toriyama's legacy both spiritually and physically what the fuck
>>586120556I hope it's 21
>>586120556The one on the left, at least
>>586121956>the worst oneOf course
>>586121956>The best oneOf course.
>>586121942The scientist would be Vomi rather than 21 tho, no?
>>58612283421 is also a scientist
(You) obey the rules, anon.Megacorpos and l*ndl*rds are however allowed to do whatever they want.
>>586123428>Please honor Mr. Toriyama by allowing us to demolish his studio
>>586123428I don't get what's happening.
>>586111432>>586111997According to some people posting there, Bird Studio itself has been dissolved and no longer exists.Presumably some existing staffers would just be hired onto projects they already worked on (like Nakatsuru and Fenyo doing promo art for DB and DQ), but since Toriyama isn't around, there really isn't a reason for Bird Studio to continue existing.
>>586111432>Toyotaro didn't stop this
>>586124758Fall of the Empire
>>586124820Wouldn't that fuck with DB's rights even more?
>>586124978Not really.Bird Studio is still credited, but that's because it was the general name for Toriyama's involvement in a project.
>>586117817>>586120556Why would Arisu be like that, she is stronger than Majin Kuu, but she never actually fights on Screen. East Kaioshin gets more action in the orignal manga.
>>586120849This was the family's decision, namely the wife, Iyoku effectively dissolved bird studio in all but name, it seems as if they and Shueisha have officially come to an agreement and Shueisha now has full ownership of the Dragonball IPodds are the deal was they get to do whatever they want as long as Toriyama's family still gets a cut of the profits Toriyama himself was getting from the IP.In short, prepare for cheap AI Slop the likes of which you've never seen before in the future the other caviate was likely to keep feeding Bamco video games since Iyoka has constantly made it clear he wants more video games for Dragonball and he's friends with people at Namco-Bandaiin short, corporate greed wins again, and a family who only cares about money is easy to bribe into not getting in the way, I guess japanese corporations are bit more gentle compared to western corporations where they will absolutely make sure they and only they profit off something if they can, think of how many iconic franchises are still kicking around while the OG creators and their next of kin get nothing for it, like the guy who created Batman, his family gets squad from the money that character brings in it all goes to corporate hounds.
>>586125759>Why would Arisu be like that, she is stronger than Majin KuuWe don't really know that.
>>586126731She says so and characters should be assumed to be truthful unless evidence to the contrary is present.
>>586111997what they're saying there is that they're renovating the place, building a bigger studio
>>586127693I already spammed the shueisha won thing across several places so I'm just gonna ignore that, lying is fun and makes people mad so I'm not gonna stop
>>586127693>what they're saying there is that they're renovating the place, building a bigger studioDon't know where anyone is getting this idea when Bird Studio already downsized months ago.It moved addresses to a condo (likely where Toriyama's family lives) back around July and August, and there's no reason for it to get bigger since Toriyama is dead. No Toriyama = No Bird Studio.
>>586127841el hijo Sasuke will make things right, hence why they're making a bigger studiotrust the plan
>>586127617>She says soNot really, she says another Majin before Kuu was weaker than her.
>>586128106No I thought she said while commissioning Majin Duu
It might be cringe but I legit love those crossover fanarts that are just Goku showing up and saving the day at tragic moments.I really get what MHA's author meant when he said he based All Might on Goku.
>>586128896They should make one with the bullshit in Edgerunner
Don't worry guys as a recompensation Iyoku will put a DB Theme Park in Franc-OH NO NO NO HAHAHAHAHAHA
>>586128106>>586128529No you were right. She said it during the commission of Kuu. Which bolsters my point, there is less reason to include her if she isn't even stronger than Kuu. There are a bunch of other characters that steal her role, and there isn't a need for a lot of civilian characters in Xenoverse.
It is truly over.....
>>586126656What a load of [HEADCANON].
Kami appears to take his own body when Piccolo dies in Sayaian Saga. So even if we reasonably infer that the year of advanced warning was needed to pre-make all thr Z-warriors a body a get them a pass to the Outer Kaio Realm, the Androids can't win unless before killing any Z-warriors they perform a drive by on the Lookout.
>>586138862Considering the desperation moves King Yemma made when Majin Buu was about to pull up and slaughter Other World, it was more than possible for a similar move to be made with Olibu or Pikkon. Before anyone spouts "NOT CANON!!!" it's worth noting that Goku mentions there being strong fighters in Other World at the end of the cell saga even in the manga. This along with New Namek existing means the only way the androids actually win is through plot contrivance, which is the route Toriyama went with.
>>586123428THE GRAINS OF DIRT UNDER TORIYAMA'S HOUSE WAS PROMISED TO THE EMPEROR 3,000 YEARS AGO. PREASE UNDAHSTAND!!!
Shut the fuck up.
>>586141245Aeos would never say that to me
The new artist is a funny fellow
>>586138862>So even if we reasonably infer that the year of advanced warning was needed to pre-make all thr Z-warriors a body a get them a pass to the Outer Kaio RealmI mean, wasn't Kami explicitly able to remake Chaitzou's body from nothing. I don't think there is anything there to imply kami just had a backup ready for him
>>586142438I feel like the only one of these that is super egrigious is the one on the bottom left, the others are just similar poses (a lot of which are iconic poses that make sense to be similar, and even then they aren't exact copies)
>>586140119>Considering the desperation moves King Yemma made when Majin Buu was about to pull up and slaughter Other WorldWhen all of existence including his own life was in danger? Yeah he did some stuff, he definitely can do stuff to defeat the Androids, but why would he 17 and 18 can't come to other world, might not even be able to make it off Earth. The Kaios and Yenma don't give a fuck about mortal atrocities, the Sayians as a race were going around with individual Sayians committing planetary genocides. And nobody was going to stop them even though East Kaioshin easily could. Why would 17 and 18 be any diffrent?
>>586142930lmao look at UI Goku and bottom right SSB Goku's hair, it's a total copy, he couldn't even come up with original bangs for Goku's flowing hair
>>586142438>depicts SSBE>lacks the extra muscles the form has because he traced a Vegeta in another formFUCKING KEK
>>586142438No idea what you're even trying to say
>>586143502I think he's trying to say the artist is tracing from stuff. I do agree some stuff on there is fairly egregious, but also some of that stuff is just kind of iconic poses that would make sense to be similar. Doesn't stop the art from being bad, let's make that clear. I'd just rather criticize him for dogshit posing than that
>>586143618>I think he's trying to say the artist is tracing from stuff.It's promotional art, it's literally supposed to be stuff from the shows, mangas or video games tho.
>>586143754I mean, yeah, I agree. Which is why im saying we should criticize him for being a worse rendition of the stuff he's trying to emulate. mfer somehow made some of toyotaro's action poses worse
>>586142698He "regenerated" all their bodies from nothing, instead of taking them.
>>586143864calls into question why exactly kami needed goku's body specifically back in raditz, though.
>>586143130I was going to suggest that King Kai did all this, as many theories pointed out in the past, but that's honestly what I like about the Android Saga. It was a final personal challenge for the Z-Fighters, much like the rest of the series was. Even down to Cell having their abilities.
>>586143992Probably make the process easier and avoid clone issues
>>586144167>Even down to Cell having their abilities.This is barely a thing, though. Cell having the Z fighter's abilities really just does not matter at all aside from him using the solar flare that one time (which is something everyone can copy)
>>586143992Because it's easier and he didn't have advanced warning, like with the Sayians, and he didn't use that year to get really good at making bodies from scratch, because he would have used this power to attempt to restore Goku's body in Namek.
>blatant rehash of GT for nostalgia>cheap "serious" tone in Super but it just feels less like DB>unironical tracing in promotional material all the time>Toriyama's legacy being destroyedlmao Iyoku is everything people said Toyotaro was
>>586144167>I was going to suggest that King Kai did all this,But he wouldn't do any of this North Kaio wouldn't do any of this. North Kaio didn't even regenerate Krillin's body after he died on Namek, and more importantly North Kaio doesn't watch Earth all fucking day he wouldn't even know what was going on.
>>586144693It's really obvious you're some tourist from /dbs/, dude, we don't care about that drama fagging about dudes none of us will ever know personally.
>>586144260Actually this isn't 100% true now that I think about it, he does have Piccolo's regeneration. But even that's ludicrously stronger than anything Piccolo has ever shown off(till buu saga, and even that still has limits) and is basically its own thing.
>>586145187Of course what Piccolo says in the Buu saga is directly contradicted
I think the main relevant thing aside from solar flare cell gets directly from the Z fighters is his Zenkai, and even that's weird because it just draws attention to the fact that the Z fighters just don't get that anymore but Cell does and no reason is given.
>>586145596Nobody was eligible for a Zenkai except Goku, who we can't quanitfy if he got one.
>>586145682Vegeta got his ass beat pretty badly by 18, tbf. But eh I guess it just depends on what your line is for getting zenkais
>>586146337Nearly die. Vegeta was fine and needed no external to recover.
>>586146442anon they all got given senzu beans, and 17 even claims they may die without them
>>586146550But I thought they weren't evil and never tried to kill anyone but Goku
>>586146672I mean they explicitly know Krillin has senzu beans and that they're in no real danger of dying as long as he's there.
But yeah, Zenkai seems to vanish with no reason given after Namek and then Cell just magically gets it and then it leaves again during Buu saga
https://youtu.be/IitUno5OTgY?t=50m59s
>>586148687Cool
>>586146442Vegeta's zenkais on Namek against Zarbon and Recoome were comparable to the beating he took from 18. Heck, he wasn't even knocked unconscious against Recoome... Zenkais just arbitrarily stop existing after Namek until Cell gets one.
>>586151727I feel like Cell's namekian regeneration being infinitely stronger than anything we've seen out of piccolo or nail and zenkais appearing out of nowhere long after they were seemingly dropped goes a long way to make super perfect cell look a lot worse than it really should've been
>>586151910Even before SPC, Cell survived having his head obliterated, which's far above anything Piccolo or Nail did too, and it even creates a plot hole with SPC. You could chalk it up to Freeza and Namekian cells combined making him that durable, but his head being destroyed is still a plot hole, and SPC kinda takes things too far still to how much he can regenerate... Now that I think of it, RoF makes SPC more plausible since after Shenlong resurrected him and brought Freeza's chopped body back, Freeza was still alive, and he survived long enough to have his pieces gathered and thrown in a healing tank.
>>586147265>>586151727Of course Zenkai's don't appear to exist before this point, Goku almost dies twice in the RR, and again against Piccolo Sr, and against Piccolo Jr.Some would say he almost died against Tambourine, but I would call you retarded.
>>586154653Frieza loses more than half of his head and still survives in the manga.
>>586154832We're not talking before though we're talking about after. Zenkais are a stupidly relavent plot point in namek saga and they're just quietly dropped until Cell pulls it straight out of his ass
>>586155034No that's my point, they show up suddenly in Namek, happen eleven times and then disappear, show back up once and then leave forever after.
>>586155158Tbh, I do agree with the narrative decision to remove zenkai, it feels like most plots would end up becoming really samey with them over time. But man at least say super saiyan gets rid of them or something
Lab coat 21
>>586166425that is so weirdly low quality i had to check and yep he actually uploaded it like thatboggles the mind sometimes what artists are alright putting out
>>586160870I disagree with the idea to introduce Zenkai's to begin with, and cucking out and running away from your bad decision is also bad..
>>586145032Doesn't sound like /dbs/ because the post actually gives a shit about the state of the ip, unlike your projecting reject assWe are fucking cooked and you should start being concerned
>>586169840whenever I see this art style I think of the one special where they made pan out to be a complete wet blanket incapable of doing basically anything and a post EoZ vegeta still weirdly sociopathic
>>586166894I don't see the problem
>>586170010anon it's small and visibly crunchy even without zooming in i don't know what to tell you if you can't see thatthat one's good though
>>586167403codifying shounen tropes as a direct thing in universe always gets a little weird. I've heard people complain about haki quite a bit.
>new attack on titan game has 70 hours of story>Xenoverse 3 only has 20-30
>>586003805downgrade, dragon ball universe is better
>>586171416was anyone expecting a 70 hour story out of xenoverse? Like I never got the idea it was going to be that kind of videogame.
>>586170635I don't understand what words you are saying to me.It's not supported by previous events, it undermines previous events, Toriyama decided to get rid of it shortly after only using it as a cheap shitty get out jail free card, and he couldn't even handle it consistently in the Saga it was introduced in.
>>586170219>anon it's small and visibly crunchy even without zoomingI see it.I just don't think it's a problem to be annoyed by
>>586171569Zenkai is based off of the idea of a second wind power up, which is a fairly common thing in shounen, i'm saying that codifying that as an explicit thing in setting tends to create issues, like how I've heard haki does.
>>586171908>Zenkai is based off of the idea of a second wind power up, which is a fairly common thingExcept that's not how it worked in the story. There is no point in a second wind when you can exploit it
>>586171908>second wind power upA what? I don't think I have read manga where that exists.
He got a zenkai too
>>586172337being able to actively exploit zenkais both as a training mechanism and something to do in the middle of the battle would have been toxic as hell for the story im not sure why toriyama introduced that
Is Sparking Zero worth buying? I was waiting for Xenoverse 3 but that game is fucked.
>>586175134You need an SSD
So who are going to be the villains in XV3? We know the Time GoD is a thing so the story obviously picks up, but so far all we've seen is the RR map (I guess Red Pants officially doesn't happen) and a bunch of robots and AI/holographic versions of DB characters which is pretty different compared to all the crazy enemies we got in DBO.
Weren't most of the XV2 enemies just DB characters but purple?
>>586142438B-but at least is not AI!
>>586177418>So who are going to be the villains in XV3?Dimps
I read reports that Bird Studio is getting relocated, so maybe not all is lost?
>>586177418I think the AI characters and the robots are going to be the meat of what we fight, which I'm not a fan of. It seems lazy. DBO had all sorts of enemies that the new era produced, like surviving members of the Frieza force and corrupted Namekian immigrants. XV3 could have built off of that, given us new enemies to fight and/or remade the old ones, but it went the very-xenoverse route of ignoring the cool shit Heroes and DBO set up just to opt for something far more boring.
fusions 2
>>586180710There wasn't a single chance Bird Studio would disappear, dumbass, Bird Studio IS Dragon Ball after all, so of course it relocated. The destruction of Toriyama's own personal home and studio isn't about DB's future, but its past, its history and legacy.
>>586192205rude
>>586171416It's actually about 15x8, if you wanna get your other cacs to the point of doing Expert Missions for grinding for XP
Hero Here I Go, Victree Is Youuuu
>>586167576>No u>Hoodweeb talk/dbs/ confirmed
>>586181135Bandai doesn't wanna cross wires with Heroes even though its dead. And Toriyama, who by all accounts worked extensively on XV3, had been in more of in a silly mood than a cool one, and probably wouldn't have like Heroes to start with.
Pan!
>>586171416Story is bonus.
In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey
>>586206261can i be shrimp
>>586206495You can be the termite that's choking on the splinters
who has mod power on sadpanda and wouldnt mind supporting a few appeal petitions?
>>586206495Krill yourself
>>586207702>>586208356you misunderstand
https://x.com/ROM_taku/status/2116309680897265736
>>586214175Hot
I wish I was perfect...
>>586228713too badtime to turn into brainless red kaiju
>Bird Studio is now registered in Tokyo>same adress as CCT>Iyoku is a part of board of directorsHow the fuck did he manage to do this? Gotta be backed by Tori's family.
>>586204467fake
>>586242850he is, he's a long time family friend and the one they defer to for business dealings while they effectively live their lives collecting royalty checks and chasing their own ambitions like their father/husband wanted them to, to Toriyama dragonball was just the golden goose, having Iyoku carry on keeping Shueisha from cutting out his family after his death was likely their plans from the start.As for Iyoku himself, his ambition is more anime and more video games, the only ones who really want more of the manga are Toyotaro. Torishima is a grifter who makes his money by riding his dragonball fame and being a grouchy old man who hates everything while never creating anything himself, no one with pull gives a damn what he says or does, only Toyotaro seems to want to be acknowledged by him like a good little puppy looking for a new master. Meanwhile Oshi is still drawing chibi ball and goku dongs without pause and Victory Uchida is still a horses ass.You know what I'm gonna like about 2027? Knowing that Itachi and Sloplays aren't gonna have anything to bait viewers with for the better part of a year since DBS Beerus will end around Febuary with both Xenoverse 3 AND Galactic Patrol only releasing in October/November 2027, they'll have fucking NOTHING, even Genshikin Suadra is being overhauled into an arena fighter now that the unite style gameplay pissed everyone off because that fucking Gohan loving loser ruined yet another game just like Legends.The only game left is Sparking Zero and that's modded to hell and back already they can get fucked. I'm turning 40 in a month, I'm a loser but I'll at least 21 tiddies to coom to next year
>>586243872Thanks to Torishima we have Yugioh so he's turned a very useful person to the industry.He's retired now so why is he not supposed to be a grouchy old man
>>586243872>AND Galactic Patrol only releasing in October/November 2027Why did you fall for this retarded lie? All this long post and you believe the arc that has ZERO promotion for all year will somehow release in only a few months.They're not even done animating it, nowhere close to.Oh this fandom is up for a rude awakening when the trailer says 2029 lmao
>>586245048since they officially announced beerus covering more than just bog/rof i think it's clear it's gonna redo super as a whole, maybe putting in broly and super hero in it too, before it gets to moro
>>586245473That's wrong too, they're stopping it at U6 until the works ever resume.>Super Hero before Moronot the correct order
>>586245796>not the correct ordernobody cares about what the manga did
>>586243872>Torishima is a grifter who makes his money by riding his dragonball fame and being a grouchy old man who hates everything while never creating anything himselfHad it not been for Torishima forcing Toriyama to lean into the martial arts aspects and drop the JTTW influences, this series would have ended as early as Pilaf. Manga is a collaborative effort. You can think you have a cool idea, but just because you think it's a cool idea doesn't it mean it's a good idea. Editors exists so they can keep your stupid ideas in check and compromise. See Daima? That's Toriyama with the most creative freedom he's ever had, and it sucks. Android Saga? He didn't have as much creative freedom there like he had with Daima, but the Android Saga is still dumb as hell and relies on audience suspension of disbelief (like some old man who somehow managed to turn two teenage brats into super weapons stronger than Frieza in his cave).
>>586245048>All this long post and you believe the arc that has ZERO promotion for all year will somehow release in only a few months.That anon actually said it's around a year away. Most anime, and especially most Dragon Ball anime, don't get much promotion until the last three months before release.Anyways for you and >>586245473, you can tell what Toei is doing.DBS Beerus will likely run around 20 episodes putting it roughly around mid-late February for an endpoint (dependent on holidays/breaks). From there, its time slot will be taken by One Piece, which will air for half a year, likely concluding that broadcast before resuming its hiatus around September~October.From there, the timeslot will likely just switch back to Dragon Ball, picking up with the Galactic Patrol arc.They're not going to redo Universal Survival or the DBS films because they are satisfied with those productions. The only lingering exception is maybe Goku Black, but much of the focus is on the earlier portions of DBS because those received the most criticism and are the most relevant to a lot of current DBS.
Did anyone playing sparking zero dlc?
>>586246762No, Galactic Patrol isn't gonna be in 2027. They should logically have something else to replace One Piece in November.But there's no single way they would have the entire arc animated by next year, as it only started being in production this year in January.
>>586245910>(like some old man who somehow managed to turn two teenage brats into super weapons stronger than Frieza in his cave).>No you can't just work hard and overcome Frieza
>>586247538>No, Galactic Patrol isn't gonna be in 2027. They should logically have something else to replace One Piece in November.So why wouldn't it be Galactic Patrol?>But there's no single way they would have the entire arc animated by next year, as it only started being in production this year in January.Nearly two years of production time (and that is just your presumption, not even fact) is a lot for an anime. You want to know the timeline between DBS entering production and releasing? Three months. Also, any DB anime will likely only be two cour given how it will inevitably be switching off with One Piece about six months down the road. Considering all of that, remember how Dragon Ball Daima started in October 2024. Two years after it got announced.
Perfect Cell Max needed to happen for Dragon Ball to succeed. Since it didn't, Dragon Ball is doomed to become a niche franchise, like Ninku for Americans.
Can I know what East Kaioshin's plan was? If he thought the Sayians wereweaker than Pui Pui what was he planning to do against Dabra?
>>586247682>remember how Dragon Ball Daima started in October 2024. Two years after it got announced.And it had a whole trailer showing footage A YEAR before airing.We're now less than a year to October 2027 and still left with a poster.
I don't think there is enough room to fit the the 22nd WMAT, Piccolo Daimo saga and the 23rd WMAT in the 139 to 416 range required, and it is all Kami and Mr. Popo's fault.
How many DLCs until we get to Granolah arc content and we can get UE for our CaC? That shit better be broken, damage boosting is usually op in vidya
>>586253030No hang on I have this.During the Sayian Saga Kami declares that Yamcha, Krillin and Tien had finally surpassed him, and they are all well above 1.2k, but doesn't come to help despite being so powerful.But during the Piccolo Jr. Saga he acts like he is too weak even to help against Piccolo Jr, and has to cheap shot Yamcha to win.Mr Popo and God get a 5x multiplier on the lookout.
>>586254341The earthlings leaving the palace stronger than God, training on their own for months and showing up to the battle with a PL of over 1200 doesn't mean God is any close to that number.
>>586250728>And it had a whole trailer showing footage A YEAR before airing.And?No other DB project was coming out at that time, so Daima was the primary focus of the marketing.Currently, DBS Beerus is the ongoing DB work.Do you believe that, because the new OP film set for Summer 2027 doesn't have a lick of footage out yet, it won't actually come out in 2027?
>>586249691His idea was to, at worst, just gang up on the enemies or, at best, just sneak around them.
>>586254941OP film has a set date actually. Moro doesn't, it merely came out of a "projection" from the leaker's ass and everyone naively believed him.DBS Beerus isn't priority enough to take over Moro's marketing which is THE main product to advertise. THE actual return of DBS.I was right about DBS Remake being a thing when /dbg/ argued with me last year. I'll be right about Galactic Patrol not being 2027 too.
>>586248178The west liking cell infinitely more than japan does will always be funny to me
>>586254819>training on their own for monthsI guess three is month technically... and training on your own is explicitly worse than training with somebody, and they spend less than half the time training on their own.
>>586256943>three is monthThat aside, even if they didn't train on their own later, their master telling them they have already surpassed him doesn't mean they are anywhere close to him. Just look at the other side of the protagonists' training, Kaio wasn't even strong enough to beat Nappa and Goku didn't need Kaioken to clown on him.
>>586256120>DBS Beerus isn't priority enough to take over Moro's marketing which is THE main product to advertise.That's not how it works at all.DBS Beerus is its own brand that sells its own products and will be invoked separately from other DBS projects.This is why they wouldn't be advertising another TV anime during its production and release, because that would detract from the project. That is different for FILMS which are additive to a TV anime.Based on your last statement, you seem like a sperg obsessed with being right more than with living in any normal reality.
>>586257153Kami uses present tense while North Kaio uses past tense.>Nappa... Goku didn't need Kaioken to clown on him.No when Nappa was actually trying Goku was far from "clowning on him".
Why is this guy allowed outside
>>586258724Why does the time patrol let you wear that? You are just asking to be absorbed.
Since I'm here, I might as well add. FUCK JINZONINGEN #18. LET ME ABSORB YOU ALREADY. WHY ARE YOU HIDING? WHERE ARE YOU, JINZONINGEN #18???
>>586259374Okay, first of all, it's not any less coverage than the typical armor, and it's more than a bikini or many of the shirtless styles, and second of all, I don't know where that part is coming from, but the stiff skirt would get in the way, so if anything it'd be a Cell deterrent
>>586259374>>586260339It has occurred to me that Vegeta in a skin tight onesie is unusually modest for a member of the cold clan military
>Boss talks about changing her look>Boss talks about making Conton more hospitable for patrollers since they exist outside of time while here>Boss gives a dialogue tree option Interesting, as long as you're a time patroller you're effectively immortal,, it's no wonder Trunks hasn't aged since the Cell sagais it just boss available right now? I haven't gotten Trunks or Fu to spawn at all
>>586263106>>Boss talks about making Conton more hospitable for patrollers since they exist outside of time while hereTime to give time patroller raditz infinite speed, thanks powerscaling.
>>586263106>>Boss talks about changing her look>>Boss talks about making Conton more hospitable for patrollers since they exist outside of time while here>>Boss gives a dialogue tree optionVery nice details. Also the 'out of time' stuff has been a thing from the start if you talk to NPCs.
>>586257252They're not advertising another TV anime because it's far from being made>Based on your last statementI have an ego. GIGA Ego.
Why is Toei allergic to putting Goku in this outfit? When is he going to wear it?
>>586271469It would symbolize the end of Super now and they're going to milk it forever
>>586263106>Boss talks about changing her lookso her XV3 appearance is actually legitimately just her fucking around? fair enough i suppose
>>586276824I wonder for lore consistently reasons they'll say that her old look was her altering her look and her xv3 look is her "normal' look
Xenoverse 2 question.I am doing Festival of Universes, but there is something I don´t get. What is the point of the presets you unlock by camaraderie? They look the same and have the same stats as their default preset, and its not as if the game prevents you for using the same preset twice in the same mission, so what are they for?
>>586277481>What is the point of the presets you unlock by camaraderie?Saving different builds, no?
So could vegeta still not go super saiyan 3 in gt or did he just not want to use it because of the drawbacks from having a mortal body in that state?
>>586278146I assume not SSJ2 and SSJ3 aren't actually linear like that Gotenks learns SSJ3 without ever learning SSJ2. So I don't know why SSJ4 would require any "previous" forms
>>586277481They each have a unique new festival skill
>>586278556It isn't linear? I thought super saiyan 3 was the absolute limit of what could be achieved as a saiyan through powering up and why super never went with a true successor to it
>>586268315>They're not advertising another TV anime because it's far from being madeNo, it's because only a fucking retard would advertise another TV anime while broadcasting and selling merch for their current TV anime. Even Precure, which runs consistently with maybe a couple weeks between each series, waits until about a month before one series ends before marketing the next one.
>>586280852Even Super said that Saiyans have no limits. There's probably real SS5 somewhere out there too.
>>586280930Which doesn't change the fact there will be silence for months after Beerus ends, until we eventually get a Galactic Patrol trailer that says 2028/2029.And they won't reveal the trailer just anywhere either, they'll wait for a huge event like NYCC.
>>586280852I don't know about Super. But in Dragon Ball the only implication that they are linear is that Goku calls them SSJ2 and SSJ3, but Gotenks dailoge requires him to not have SSJ2, but he has SSJ3.
>>586281153>Which doesn't change the fact there will be silence for months after Beerus ends, until we eventually get a Galactic Patrol trailer that says 2028/2029You live in a dismal autistic reality where you genuinely believe Toei would not have a two cour anime together after a standard two year production cycle.>And they won't reveal the trailer just anywhere either, they'll wait for a huge event like NYCC.Or SDCC, or fucking Goku Day.
Not a joke, I like this song more than Dragon Ball Super Beerus' opening. They're both AI Songs so it seems right to compare them.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwidPQGb138
>>586282262>>586280852Especially since SSJ4 (Daima) and SSJG have a very diffrent method of acquisition, compared to the six forms of SSJ we see in Dragonball, I would assume you don't need SSJ1 to achieve them.Oh and of course GT only requires SSJ1 by strong implication.
>>586283787are majins always naked because their clothes is really just their flesh recolored and retextured
>>586283998Nah, that's Fridges.
Actually it's a bit weird. We know the buu's pants are just part of their flesh, but buuhan's shirt is an independent article of clothing that buu just kind of tears off
Boss...
>>586256480Frieza's popularity definitely seems to lean more into Japan than the West does, in part because Frieza's character inspiration is hyper-specific. Like him being based off of real estate speculations during the Japanese asset price bubble. Cell being more popular in the West can be attributed to his concept that aligns perfectly with classic Hollywood sci-fi and comic book tropes and the whole idea of the Android arc seems to resemble Marvel's Days of Future Past which precedes it by 11 years (Terminator is of course another influence).
>>586287229I think it's a combination of things of Cell being essentially the final villain for a lot of people (as a ton of people never really watched buu saga, or consider it bad enough that DB should've ended as cell) and the west's love of Gohan. Cell is Gohan's final hurdle to become MC, so people love him. I also think that videogames make him out to be this super intelligent and thoughtful dude because of his "perfect organism" shtick, so that helps. Like just recently in sparking zero you had that line with him musing about the nature of perfection.
>>586286874Her game is ending, and you won't even put on pants for her...
pants are overratedlet her dress how she wants
>>586288225Her legs are distracting!
hope you guys are having a happy halloween
New XV3 gameplay. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI80Pf7hwpUThey made the inside of his mouth manga accurate.
Trick or treat, brehs.
>>586297991where's puar dude
>>586295740zZzZzz
>>586295740>the parallel quests are just simulations, all the characters are AI and your mentors are some sort of computerized soul thingI don't know how they managed to do it but they made things more boring than the other two xenoverses.
>>586282262I thought the point of gotenks was to attain ssj3 and he probably didn't get a chance to show it off ssj2 fighting buu because he needed to skip to 3 and chase buu out of tgd timw chamber
Apparently there's a small memorial for bird studio now it's being demolished? You can even see a Toyo piece at the bottom here, he must have come there as soon he heard the news.I wonder how long this will last tho, nips are very special about their social norms so I can see this being gone soon too
>>586278556>>586280852Why the fuck do you think Gotenks couldn't go SS2? Because he skipped it and went for SS3? That's like saying Goku can't use Kaioken x5.
>>586307661Why does this feel like the end of DB it's kind of crazy that came out of nowhere
>>586022856where are you from?
>>586308272>out of nowhereToriyama Akira passed away years ago, anon.
Should I play Dragon Ball Online?
I don't like their decision of keeping everything within West City. They advertised it as a "whole new dragon ball world" but West City was only a small slice of that world. We had the lookout, Satan City, Mount Paozu, Kame House, as well as Namek and Yardrat, and even Planet Vegeta since time travel would be a thing. Not to mention all the cool areas the new story could have provided. With 7/8 years in development the game should have been open world. Or at least had multiple hubs.
>>586286874>>586258724https://youtu.be/zBhjqvSwjVE?t=1h31m33s relevant 5 second clip
>>586285904Fat Buu wore pajamas after making his house, and he was wearing different pants. I think he wasn't wearing even socks. Buu's clothes are kinda parts of their bodies because they're regenerated alongside them, but they can also just, change clothes.
>>586317370being a clothes seller in conton must be ass. What with buus being able to make any clothes they want and namekians being able to just magically generate the actual ones
NEW THREAD >>586167330>>586157842>>586167330>>586157842
>>586317370You mean this scene?
>>586283639>They're both AI SongsProof?
>>586318050
>>586318050these sluts ain't goku...
>>586318082Yes. IIRC he physically removes the cape too, not just shape shift it, and possibly by extension his pants, into the pajamas.
>>586318487You can see all of his clothes when he takes a bath EXCEPT for his pants. Are majins solely capable of making pants a part of their being and nothing else?
>>58631897>Are majins solely capable of making pants a part of their being and nothing else?His shoes should also be part of his body since they're just as default Buu clothing as his pants, yet he took them off, so I'm not so sure.
>>586318423Goku's the biggest slut in the series
I can't wait for people to be surprised when this non-canon filler ends up not happening in DBS Zeno or whatever they call the FT+ToP arcs remaster.
>>586322061I mean i'd just be a bit sad more than anything. I don't really care about canon or noncanon. Goku putting a hit on himself to fight hit was a fun gimmick.
>>586318908I mean, he takes off his pajama pants while he's shitting, without his normal pants underneath either.
Do you think if Van Zant didn't show up, Buu would've tried to fuck Hercule?
>>586323230what
>>586323342Rewatch Z
>>586323679no I prefer reading the manga
>>586308249Goku, gohan, and vegeta can go super saiyan 2 it definitely feels linear. The only true offshoots I can think of is ultra super saiyan but ironically that probably isn't even a real super saiyan form and closer to frieza full power state.
how would you feel if the other saiyan forms are used this way?Super saiyan 2 to super saiyan 4super saiyan god to super saiyan blue
Kind of think blue was rushed but goku was fighting whis in ssj bwcause thats the form he was most comfortable in so I get blue to an extent
>>586326538you're not allowed to wear armor into the budokai, though. It's why Gohan couldn't wear his helmet
>>586326713It's not armor, it's a costume.
>>586327279gohan's helmet was also just a costume, though.
>>586330349Goten wearing a costume that reflects the depth of his character, genius Kojima
You know, it's kinda funny how the new costume update essentially made GT Trunks and the Saiyamans useless.
So why did they make a game where the combat system is rock paper scissors? It would understandable if it was a DS or PSP game but this was a major console game.
>>586337596I think it was their way of having super cutscene-like fights while still making you press buttons.
>>586337596I actually really liked this game. Was there ever another Dragon Ball game where you physically beat the shit out of Shenron?
>>586343404Saiyan females are made for spanking
Today is the day. The leak that started it all.
I hate how videl just became a Japanese housewife after Z. I know there wasn't that much they could do with her, but...
>>586359574Doesn't she own a dojo?
>>586359898i thought that was tien
>>586360104He does have a dojo too, but Videl mentioned being an instructor in Superhero if I remember correctly.
>>586359898>>586360280Dojo in DB is such a silly concept considering her baby could beat up the whole planet
>>586359495Cute
>>586361326You mean pretty
My dream is still to be a great live streamer. Getting inspired by this video! Dragon Balls. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfHmxAb5n90
>>586359574DB already has an issue finding shit for most of the cast to do, we don't really need to bloat it with even more characters desu
>>586324182It's clearly a SS form because it changes your hairstyle too, but it's a different line from 2 and 3.
>>586347159could you provide some evidence?
>>586308249>Why the fuck do you think Gotenks couldn't go SS2?Because Goten and Trunks explicitly are suprised there is a transformation that give more power than SSJ1 explicitly they are suprised by this while discovering SSJ3. Which means they don't even *know* what SSJ2 is let alone have the ability to use it.>>586307659Even if you ignore the dailoge that contradicts them knowing SSJ2, they explicitly were never planning on using it.>>586324182We have an equal number of SSJ3 users that can and can't use SSJ2. Like saying the Kikoho is a linear upgrade on the Kamehama, because the only Kikoho user knows the Kamehamaha and more people know the Kamehamha generally.
>>586368831I would mock your reading comprehension but the fact you don't even know/remember Goten saw Goku's entire explanation about SS and its two enhanced versions is enough. You are a dumbass.
>>586370106So what does it mean?
>>586366256>My dream is still to be a great live streamer. Getting inspired by this video! Dragon Balls.I don't get it
>>586370939I'm just shitposting until I get banned. This website ruined my life, and the people on it that decided stalking me for the rest of their lives would be a good use of their time didn't help either.
>>586373104RIP, how did it ruin your life?
>>586373771Anon, this is a known schizo who keeps bringing in wack ass discord autism and no one knows what the fuck he's talking about
>>586373826>and no one knows what the fuck he's talking aboutI mean yeah, that's why I'm asking. I'm always confused about what he's talking about.
They got rid of that song...
I love Dragon BallI love Dragon Ball ZI love Dragon Ball GTI love Dragon Ball SuperI love Dragon Ball DaimaI love Super Dragon Ball HeroesI just really love Dragon Ball man
>>586375524what series is dragon ball man, and why do you love it more than the others?
>>586367881>It's clearly a SS form because it changes your hairstyle tooCan Nappa never go SSJ because he is bald?
>>586370210It means they still can't believe there are forms above SS, doesn't mean they just learned that five minutes ago, it works as a realization now they have achieved it as well. Again, Goten himself saw Goku go SS2, return to base and go SS, SS2 and SS3 in sequence and even giving them names.If it was Trunks you could play dumb because he could not have watched the entire thing at all times since he was supposed to go get the radar (he was still watching until Goku went SS3 tho) but Goten? Goten saw absolutely everything, denying is just denying what the manga shows.
>>586375591anon never specified WHAT kind of hair.
What did we think of the episode?
>>586375524Basd
>>586375902I'm still waiting to see any interesting changes before really watching honestly.I'm not big on remakes.
>>586375602I didn't know =/= I can't believeGood try, though
>>586375524based dragon ball lover>>586375585it's not a series, he loves dragon ball man aka our fuarking hero Goku
>>586376748don't expect much, it's just the original anime with filler cuts and enchanced animation
>>586375902its literally the same pile of shit i don't know why everyone is treating super like some kind of masterpiece despite it being one of the most mediocre dragonball related things ever
>>586359574Toei has a bad habit of writing Videl as a "proper lady", which deletes her personality. In BoG she actually scolded her father when he was being annoying, but the anime version removed that scene. There's even one scene in the anime where Goku wonders if her baby really is pure hearted, and all Videl does is calmly say that's rude. With Toriyama dead, she'll just be a generic housewife from now on... Not that she did much when he was alive anyway, but at least in BoG she had some of her edge, and in Super Hero she mentions she has a martial arts school. It wasn't much but it was something...
>>586384228most of her personality comes from anime filler anyway. in the manga she doesn't do much of anything other than quiz Gohan about Great Saiyaman, learn to fly, and then get her teeth kicked in by Spopovich.
>>586384734Her wanting to learn to fly at all shows her interest in martial arts, and she blackmailed Gohan into training her and participating in the tournament, and he didn't want to do the latter, which characterized her as strongheaded and pushy, in a different way from Bulma. Anime fillers just made use of those traits that were already there, or deleted them so she acts like a proper lady.
>>586385548I'd argue most people would want to learn how to fly even if you don't have a particular interest in martial arts tbf
>>586318050why are the xenosluts in a fighting games OP anyway? don't tell me they include the party game...
>>586385718True, but she still went about learning it in a pushy and rude way. Plus she was pretty excited about Gohan participating in the tournament because everyone else's so weak.
>>586386651every named female character in DBZ is pushy and rude, save for Sweet Launch. it's just how Toriyama writes women.
>>586388274and i think that's based
Why was Yamcha left out of RoF? The retiring from fighting excuse didn’t really make sense because according to Toyo, he still trained, and krillin and Gohan were practically retired, and plus it’s just basic Frieza soldiers. All this did was introduce an annoying, TFS-brained strain of DB fans who think he’s still as weak as he was in the saiyan arc. Plus he ends up fighting in the Moro arc anyways, so it’s going to be retarded when the RoF remaster not only ignores him, but fails to even mention him.
>>586380302hype moments and aura>>586389072He does say he's one of the strongest humans on earth, so it's something
>>586380302as far as I'm concerned Super only exists to introduce more characters for the games.
>>586383249Wrong. Delete this.
>>586380302Super is the best sequel series by a noticeable amount
>>586389072This isn't RoF's fault like so much wrong with DB it't the Buu saga's fault for cementing a crack that is the Cell Saga's.Yamcha doesn't go to the 25th WMAT, and there are lines that imply no human went into the HTC. Toriyama was susceptible to audience reactions, and you know Yamcha's reputation, Yamcha is a cuck because newfags who started at Z made him that way.
>>586392802I mean it's not like Yamcha was exactly hot shit in OGDB either. Aside from beating a weakened goku his main thing is eating shit against Jackie Chun, Tien, and Shen. He was THE original jobber to show off how strong someone is
>>586384734>and then get her teeth kicked in by Spopovich.And break his neck while refusing to give up the fight because she doesn't want to lose. Somebody who doesn't like martial arts, isn't going to do that or be as strong as she is.
>>586393062Is is not hot shit and is kind of lame. There is a MASSIVE GULF between kind of lame, and litteral metaphorical cuck watching from the sidelines while Krillin goes in.
>>586393120more just female hubris, no different than Chichi slapping Buu or Bulma mouthing off at Beerus.
>>586392427Super is not even a sequel lol
>>586394170EoZ isn't real anymore so it may as well be
>>586393398It's really not. You hit a dude so hard his neck snaps and he goes limp, it's not reasonable to assume he'll get back up and unsnap it, especially if he was supposed to be a normal human. Vegeta did the same to Burter after all.
>>586368112I don't have a death wish
>>586398238I'm not debating that. I'm saying she's not much different from most other women in Dragon Ball. Toriyama really only ever could write two types of women: rude bitches and bimbo airheads. 18 is probably the only one who breaks that mould.
>>586399914I didn't know that Yamcha was a woman. News to me.
>>586400719
>>586401652Yam-chan... Bluma-kun...
I'm starting to see youtubers posting old game trailers as if they're new. I think they might be going crazy.
>>586402815>youtubersautomated bots
>>586394423I think EoZ is real but they don't care about inconsistencies and DBS would eventually end before reaching it and woo behold.
>>586402941>automated botsYoutubers are trend chasing personality voids so often they might as well be bots.
I love 21 so much
>>586403469Isn't the gap between Super Hero and EoZ only like a year or two?
>>586409107>Gohan is about to retire and cuck back out two years from SHLMFAO
>>586409107Pan is about 3 years old in SH, and she's 4 in EoZ, so about a year.
>>586402815I've only noticed SLOplays posting old DB game intros
>Toei promotes one piece and Fortnite>with dragon ball, they literally have the easiest job ever with going back and fixing the mistakes they made 10 years ago and they can’t even do that right
>>586409107and Bulma's 5 year stuff already lost any sense, because Goku is simply training with her husband and post movie she managed to get on the call with them.
>>586403730We all do
>>586375591Are you implying Nappa doesn't have a healthy pubes?
>manga's red mistOh, neato
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzAEBD7_Rsc
>>586394423It's real, it's everything that comes after it that isn't.
>>586401652i'd fuck the shit outta that bulma
>Buu>OolongPinkfags are the worst
>>586421829Who you fighting? Are you image training?
Glussy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rq2XEL5fG9U
>>586418178lol.Not surprising things like picrel can happen. A lot of animations are probably custom-made for specific models or model parts.Still, that looks cool. Reminds me of the CaC SZ mod a little.
>>586373104breed Bulma! the great mother of new saiyan kind.
>>585990140The form should of been in xenoverse 2 if all the devs did was put the cac's face on frieza's body.
>>585991427cared enough to reply anon.
21's tits!
>>586389072My theory is that it was an out of universe reason. Toriyama didn't want a bunch people there and he kept it at 6, the same number as those who showed up to fight the saiyans. Roshi and Jaco replace Yamcha and Chiaotzu. Buu and 18 were given a reason and for anyone else you can assume they weren't up for it.
>try to play Gekishin>enemy has SSB Goku>literally 4 on 1 against him at some point>he just keeps getting more and more fucking extra HP>we end up dyingHow have the devs NOT FUCKING NERFED THIS in 3 weeks?????
>>586447507Game is getting reworked soon, no need to fix something that won't matter in a few days.
>>586447507If enemy team has SSB Goku, at least one player should have Heal Block, because if you manage to get his HP below 30%, one hit will disable his armor. You also have to learn how to vanish react to his No Hard Feelings passive punch, and pay attention to his gauge, as typically Blueku players will use the punch as soon as possible (Bulma's vanish doesn't work, but she can throw a house his delay him, or even escape). The punch itself can also have its damage reduced by debuffs, like Godgeta's S1 (Although something like Caulifla's taunt won't do so because of No Obstruction). Obviously avoid attacking him if he has armor, as all you're doing is wasting skills for when you really need it. Lastly, while incredibly strong in a fight, he's not really good against burst damage, so if someone jumps him before he can get his passive going he's going to struggle a bit or even die, and his biggest weakness is that his boss secures aren't impressive. Technicals running 19 can hold him back as well, as 19 has an absurdly short CD (Only a minute), and stealing HP makes it easier to activate Heal Block. 17 can disable his armor with even without Heal Block by using his ult, Gogeta's ult can also kill him if he stays in the ult area for too long, Black's ult lowering his total HP can help Heal Block, Krillin and Hit can limit his vision, which can delay the No Hard Feelings punch, Fat Buu can lower his damage with S1. On the tank side, Cooler has by far the best matchup against him as he can simply I-frame NHF, and Cooler's S2 blocks off Blueku's S2. I'm not denying how grossly overpowered he is, but these are the things I learned from fighting him. Do objectives, don't fight him if you don't have to, zoners can run his day, and use Heal Block.>>586450441They're still patching the game. We're getting some absurd in a few days (Like Hit's rush attack damage when invisible literally doubling).
What's his sourlevel?
>>586452265Very sour
Cum in Kamin69 21
>>586398418Doesn't sound true then
>Dragon Ball Z was photographed using 16 mm film>Episodes 73-80 were shot on 35mm film>Toei won't remaster DBZ in 1080p or 4K >Film reels age and rot over time, and the colors can shift drastically. By the time they wanted to make a blu-ray, the colors turned pink tinted, and they didn't bother to fix this which is entirely possible to do as seen in Dragon Ball Kai>Level Sets come from generational masters. Funimation cancelled Level Sets at Episode 39>Funimation has moved to CrunchyrollBros...
>>586464184>Funimation has moved to CrunchyrollCrunchyroll is shit too
Toyobros...
I want to learn to draw one day so that I can draw my Majin waifu doing things.
>>586471428It is not just Toyo and DBS. Super Divers and SD also got removed. Full scorched earth.
>>586474013Cute and based
>>586471428DB is as dead as Toriyama
>DoompostingGet new material
>>586471428Seems like they are fully moving away from Shueisha, like people have been rumouring for yearsWhich makes sense, the Dragon Ball brand IS bigger than Shueisha, and being considered a second rate franchise inside there wasn't doing it any favors.
>>586477004That would mean the end of any Jump crossovers with DB in it? Also feels weird to move the franchise now that the author is gone. Too sudden.
>>586477317Maybe Toriyama signed some contract that would move Bird Studio's rights to Capsule Corp after his death.
>>586471428>>586477004Iyoku and 2 other people from CCT are in board of directors of Bird Studio now alongside Sasuke Toriyama. Either Shueisha or CCT threw a bitchfit because everything DB related was pulled from Jump Festa
>>586477712>Sasuke Toriyama.The Shadow Emperor!
>>586477004I mean, did you see how Toei treats Dragon Ball compared to One Piece?
>>586474387it's over dragon ball is an independent and that's why they're meat riding Naruto again too
https://youtu.be/-EJfEszZwgA
>>586478107>Sasuke>Joins the AkatsukiKINO
>>586478248I wouldn't blame Toei for this.One Piece is easier to make new content of because it's still on-going. DB is in such a storytelling mess and now even moreso with hundred of versions of the same stories.
>>586482571But Sasuke didn't back Shueisha?
>>586482724kek
>TRANNYisu
>>586471428>>586474387So much for "Iyoku was close to Toriyama so he wants the best for the franchise". He can't even respect the original medium Toriyama used to convey his stories and just goes for the most normie-friendly media (anime and games).
>>586489372>He can't even respect the original medium Toriyama used to convey his storiesI mean, I don't like Iyoku's efforts on the franchise, but Shueisha are way worse.They're the company that didn't even honour his death and have continually downplayed Toriyama's role in Weekly Jump for decades now (like the whole thing where they have just lied and never updated DB sales figures for about 20 years now).
>>586489893Shueisha didn't rehash GT, put some restrictions on artists (both for drawing and voice acting) that delay an entire continent's multiple dubs and give us the atrocious promotional artist we have now to pretend Toriyama is the only name to ever matter in DB nor throw an entire medium of DB expression (the original no less) under the bus.Sure Shueisha is negligent, but Iyoku is straight up harmful
>>586471428getting replaced by a manga adaptation of an atlus game no one cared about feels oddly spiteful
>>586491062>Shueisha didn't make a great anime by Toriyama and put a bunch of grifters in their placeCool so they're bad.
>>586492459>great animelole ok now tell me what was the point of Degesu
>>586491062>that delay an entire continent's multiple dubsHope that kills those garbage dubs entirely.
>>586489893>like the whole thing where they have just lied and never updated DB sales figures for about 20 years nowOh yes, I remember those posts. Anon also pointed out they downplayed how much DB sold to claim One Piece sold more. IIRC it was something about Guiness Book of World Records claiming OP sold the most out of any single author manga out there at 320 million, which DB had outsold that (350 million) way before that.
>>586493446I have a gut feeling the same thing will happen to One Piece once it eventually ends. Either that or Shueisha just dies, depends on if they get another future hit.
>>586492712>What's the point of Starscream?You can't be that dumb.
>>586492712Serious man defeated by hat... Pilaf saga backwash identical the the black star Dragonball saga of GT, but Toriyama wrote it so it's okay now.
>>586494442Did you have a stroke?
>>586493258Thank you for proving you don't really care about DB, just like Iyoku.
>>586496884>You have to care about my shitty dubs that butcher the stories and charactersNah.
>>586493830That's possible. Once OP ends, Shueisha will probably get desperate and try to find the next big hit if there isn't one already, otherwise it'll be a repeat of the post DB/Slam Dunk era where they struggled with sales, only probably worse since I hear their sales aren't so hot WITH OP.
>cancel toyotaro’s signing event>replace his featured drawing with some irrelevant moeslop What the hell is Shueisha doing?
>>586497321>shitty dubs that butcher the stories and charactersSorry buddy but I wasn't talking about the american dub. And even that shithole deserves having a DB dub, that's what anyone who actually cares about DB would defend. Not like you could possibly relate to that.
>>586498946Forgot >even super divers and SD are removed from jump festa
>>586493830Shueisha would give Oda 50% of the company before letting One Piece go, it's literally all they have
Kinda crazy that Shueisha relies on One Piece and gives it all sorts of deals and promotions and shit, and even lets Oda have useless editors and all the break weeks he wants But they won’t step on Bandai’s neck and force them to make a good one piece game. They can’t replicate make a FighterZ clone because Bandai drove away Arc System, which screwed dragon ball over too, their other cash cow whether they want to admit it or not.
>>586245910Daima is just Toriyama throwing like 5 ideas "they go here, ship gets stolen lol. Green Buu does the funny" and telling Toei to just make it. This isn't a Toriyama manga.>the Android Saga is still dumb as hell and relies on audience suspension of disbelief (like some old man who somehow managed to turn two teenage brats into super weapons stronger than Frieza in his cave).It was possibly made worse by editorial meddling. I agree that manga is a collaborative effort to some extent but this myth that Toriyama NEEDS the tardwrangling rather than being given a few good pointers occasionally is egregious. Toriyama's flair is the reason why each of his pages is good.
>what's happening in DBM right n- oh........
>>586418276Lol at this point it starts looking the other way around, because they made sure everything that came before stops fitting.
>>586505737
>>586505737>Nappa is the only one smilingHoly fuck that's such a good detail actuallyI still don't understand why Raditz would be allowed to breed, or why they all used the same female.
>>586505828>>586505892I like Nappa. I guess even DBM Nappa.
>>586505954Well, I don't think Nappa would do that though. Even though he's a mass murderer.
>>586506051Anyway that's it. They bred otters in the main universe according to this weird side story that's not exactly DBM canon but still hosted there. Funny.
>>586506051You weren't paying attention to Nappa then, because he explicitly explicitly would.
>>586506298uglybastard rapeman nappa...
>>586506298I mean killing the child so fast. I think he might kill him eventually but probably not on the spot. Nappa is a mass murderer and a bastard but he has a somewhat friendly disposition at the same time for his "people", he thought about reviving Raditz too.As for breeding that's another story. They threw that line, I don't necessarily think they'd have done it in universe (it was just a casual line, doesn't mean they did it in the past or would have seriously considered it). Maybe it's a 50/50 on that question. It would never be with otters, though, and it would never be drawn on page.
>>586506626I personally think nappa would do it, but I also think showing them doing it and having them kill their kids afterwords is just kind of senseless violence for the sake of it. We don't need to establish the saiyans are evil any more than the main series already does. Rape doesn't really mean anything when they're already genociding people
>>586507379I'm not saying it's too far for Nappa but he has a bit of a goofy personality outside of his murder session that I think he might fuck around with his "son" (lmao) for longer before killing. Obviously I agree that it's stupid and tasteless to show that, but that's what "lore" focused fans will do.
>>586505828goku's otter niece... forgotten...
>>586507625>but that's what "lore" focused fans will do.tbf most lore OC autism outside of multiverse is focused into making wacky saiyan OCs and I tend to find that endearing
Now that Iyoku owns DB and doesn't care about Toriyama OR Shueisha, post your predictions for future DB anime after Galactic Patrol>Dragon Ball remake>DB comedy spinoff>Xenoverse world anime>Gohan solo film
>>586506184I half expected one of the kids to go berserk. What a weird side story to write, I feel like nothing really comes from this.
>>586508486Probably just a bunch of small "side stories" showing "hey this happened offscreen, ain't that funny?". In this case, just to reiterate that Saiyans are barbarians. Meh
>>586508486the only thing that can be gleaned from this is that saiyans are evil and dont care about their offspring. Which is something that we already knew?
>>586508913I said this before but the way DBM writers and fans see Dragon Ball is a big DND/RPG session with different classes, powers and shit. It's all about muh lore and whether the average powerlevel in the universe is 500 or 5000, or how strong magic is.
>>586505737>>586505828>>586505954>>586506051>>586506184I don't really get what the point of this is, to show that the Saiyans are bastards? Everybody capable of reading knows that already. Is it to just waste time? Why?
>>586509493The point is >>586509295This is a "worldbuilding" statement: "Saiyans are barbarians and might've raped/bred". That's it. Toriyama drew manga to express his passion, or to make readers laugh or feel excited, these guys draw to state "I think the DB universe works this way". Over and over.
>>586506184>Saiyans are eviler Viltrumites actually
>>586509493to be fair, pointless violence isn't exactly new to this series. the Cell and Bojack specials were just kind of that >>586509707> these guys draw to state "I think the DB universe works this way". Over and over.I don't actually think there's anything wrong with that in of itself. Fanfiction is the space where people read and write lore expansions on existing settings, after all. The issue with this is this isn't even a lore expansion it's simply reiterating something that's already been said for the sake of it
>>586509807The author literally said that in the comment section, yeah.>>586509830>I don't actually think there's anything wrong with that in of itselfThe issue is that manga is an art form and just pointlessly commenting on lore nuggets of an established story doesn't create art, it creates a youtube essay. It's analysis for the sake of it. It doesn't convey anything meaningful, it's not a creative process.
>>586509998I mean ultimately people just make fanfiction and fancomics for fun, it doesn't have to be high art. I dislike this because it's simply not fun and it doesn't make me think about the setting or anything, it's just kind of tasteless.
>>586510147Nothing against fanfiction, I just think it clashes a lot with a work like Dragon Ball. This is a "I care about Dragon Ball specifically" moment rather than "I care about what makes Dragon Ball good" one (the fruitful creative process).
>>586509295>>586509707I've seen people make that out of Dragon Ball, even those running tabletops or RPs or Quests understand the assignment far better. Fuck, some of them go nuts with Magic shit understand how to make that fit Dragon Ball at least a little better. It can't just be "D&D nerds trying to make Dragon Ball stories.">>586509830Even in the "villains winning" shit there was at least an attempt at establishing a thing mildly relevant to the rest of the stuff going on, fucking ugly ass art they might have aside. This is less than nothing, not even a reinforcement of how shitty Rapist Kakarot was.
>>586510340>I just think it clashes a lot with a work like Dragon Ball.I don't think people make fanfiction because a work in specific is good for it, they just make it because they like the media and want to make more content for it because they enjoy it. I find multiverse bad for the same reason I dislike Gohan fans, it's not even fanfiction by this point you just want an entirely different story than what was presented by the narrative
>>586509998>The author literally said that in the comment section, yeah.I'm not surprised. DBM is in loove with that 2000's edge, and Viltrumites personify it before most of them turn out to be softies once they learn of unconditional love. A saiyan doing something like that isn't impossible, but pushing Vegeta/Nappa/Raditz as ones who would rape to procreate their species when only Nappa showed an interest in doing that (And only because Saiyan/Human hybrids specifically could be that strong, so he wouldn't breed just any species), while neither Vegeta or Raditz were interested in procreating their species, is pretty damn retarded.
>>586511350They're fishing for super strong hybrids based on that one line from Nappa but what it fails to understand is that Nappa only showed interest in it AFTER he saw Gohan's power spike. They wouldn't think of it otherwise probably
>>586511502Well nappa is, vegeta shuts it down because the idea of strong hybrids being around seems dumb to him due to being unable to control them
>>586511502>They wouldn't think of it otherwise probablyNappa showing an interest at all can lead to him considering it, but knowing saiyans, he'd likely only attempt it on a species he sees as strong (But still weaker than him because seal clubbing), so no way he'd consider humans. Plus, Nappa is very easily convinced to not do it, so it's not like he's that interested in procreating. He just had an idea, Vegeta told him to forget it because it's retarded, Nappa agreed and they moved on.
>>586509807>X is a ripoff of Y>Y came out 14 years (over a decade) after X
I don't know if it's the shitty dub but if you guys genuinely think Nappa has somewhat of a nice side to him you may be retarded
>>586514705He wanted to revive Raditz, he had six Raditz in his pocket.
>>586514539I was talking about that comic's interpretation of saiyans where they're written like eviler Viltrumites.
>>586512240>>586512438Nappa showed an interest in this only after someone else did it for him (unknowingly) and he got to see results. He'd never draft it out of nowhere>>586514705He wanted to revive Raditz and he's more "playful" than "nice". He's bloodthirsty and would've stomped Gohan into paste but I think he'd stuck around for a few seconds before killing his offspring.
>>586515554given how they got rid of zen buu I have no faith they'll find a reasonable way to get rid of XXI
>>586508103We have the next arc after Moro, and they could even retell SH too considering the manga version has additions from Toriyama. The question is what comes after those
>>586516973there's one of two ways this whole thing'll go>salad gear has had an ending in mind for decades, it'll feel awkward as shit because he came up with it so long ago he can't even remember what he was thinking at the time>salad gear has no idea what the conclusion's going to be and is just going with the flow, the ending will be an absolute mess as he attempts to come up with a way of dealing with the creature he wrote specifically to be unbeatable and was too busy trying to make him 'cool' to write an actual weaknesseither way i don't see a satisfying conclusion coming
>>586516592>Nappa showed an interest in this only after someone else did it for him (unknowingly) and he got to see results. He'd never draft it out of nowhereNo Nappa doesn't know about the Kaios and explicitly is learning that there is at least one race who can interbreed with Sayians, he wouldn't draft it on his own because he dumb AND ignorant.
>>586516065Well of course they would be Viltrumites are just cheap versions of Nappa
>>586517798It would be funny if XXI is beaten in a way that is just as frustrating as the ways he beats everyone else. Like say, characters learn what's going on with his dragon, make a wish that he doesn't have to grant wishes anymore if he doesn't want to, so next time XXI summons him to make a wish, the dragon just ignores the wish and just smithes him.
>>586518456XXI doesn't really need the dragon, though. He just uses it to be absolutely 100% hyper safe that he'll win. He's already hyper strong and has time stop powers.
>>586509707>>586509998>>586510340Just say "media literacy" like you clearly want to.
>>586515760>>586516592Why wouldn't he want to revive him?>saibaimen aren't as strong as Raditz, just comparable, at least that's what the japanese version says (guides also agree by giving Raditz a PL of 1500 and the saibaiman one of 1200)>Nappa himself said strong saibaimen should be born from Earth's soil so it's not like every seed they had can reliably become someone close to Raditz, they got lucky in that specific mission, saibaimen may end up being way more useless in other circumstances>we don't even know how long those creatures live, how trustworthy they are long term or if they can reproduce passing their high powerlevels, meanwhile Raditz was a good bitch for Vegeta/Freeza, would be in good shape for fighting for another five decades and the possibility of producing more half-saiyans was there if needed in the future>Nappa didn't know about any limitation of the DBs, as far he knew they could have used them to revive Raditz and get all their wishes all the same day, he didn't give his resurrection any priority or special thoughtThere's nothing necessarily sentimental about reviving Raditz, it was just the objectively most practical choice for them.Just because Vegeta was an even more evil guy and would get rid of his own lackeys just for the fun of punishing them doesn't mean Nappa had a nice side. In fact that's exactly what happened to a saibaiman later, in anothe scene people use to justify their Nappa headcanon.The saibaiman who was losing to Tenshinhan could have been at least a little useful, it could have teamed up with Nappa, it could idk disolve the corpse of dead earthlings to mentally break them, maybe it could have killed Chaozu or something, but nah Vegeta prefers to kill his own minions as punishment.Nappa is just more pragmatic, that's all.
>>586519005Not really a matter of media literacy. That buzzword "media literacy" is a readers thing. I'm talking about creators.>>586519185>saibaimen aren't as strong as RaditzThey explicitly are. The guides aren't canon.>There's nothing necessarily sentimental about reviving Raditz, it was just the objectively most practical choice for them.Them being respectively ~5x times and ~10x times stronger than Raditz kinda makes him useless from a purely practical perspective. You hear about magical granting wishes and your first thought is reviving that one weak lackey of yours?>In fact that's exactly what happened to a saibaiman later, in anothe scene people use to justify their Nappa headcanonYeah well Nappa is nicer to his Saibaimen actually. I doubt he'd kill them. He's absolutely a mass murderer and a butcher that'd kill your son in front of you while making you watch and then killing you too, but he's decent with his own boys.
>>586519185>A guide that blatantly contradicts events and explicit statements says...I am not reading the rest of the post.
>>586519185>>Nappa himself said strong saibaimen should be born from Earth's soil so it's not like every seed they had can reliably become someone close to Raditz, they got lucky in that specific mission, saibaimen may end up being way more useless in other circumstancesThis keeps being brought up in this thread but that's not actually what Nappa says at all. All he says is "they'll grow nicely in this soil" and assuming that means earth soil is super special and saibamen are stronger from it is dumb. Besides, Nappa says their powerlevels are 1200 despite not having his scouter on, which means he has to know that from prior knowledge
>>586519559>They explicitly are.Please re-read the line you replied to. Entirely. Twice, if needed.>uselessShall I remind you they originally went to Earth because they needed Goku, who was not even 1/3 as strong as Raditz? If that Goku is useful then Raditz is the employee of the month.And yes, if you hear about getting magical wishes I would just fix any inconvenience, why wouldn't I? Why wouldn't anyone? They didn't know about the DBs limits.>He's absolutely a mass murderer and a butcher that'd kill your son in front of you while making you watch and then killing you too, but he's decent with his own boysThe problem here is that nothing backs this headcanon of yours because every decision that mass murderer took that you interpreted as "decent" was just the most practical choice for them. Could he secretly be nice too? I guess. Do we have any reason to believe such a thing? lmao no>>586519561You didn't catch that even before mentioning the guides (one of them with Toriyama seal of approval, btw) I also mentioned the japanese version of the manga, so clearly you were never able to read that well. Thank you for trying, though, you will learn someday if you keep the effort.
>>586519185>Just because Vegeta was an even more evil guy and would get rid of his own lackeys just for the fun of punishing them doesn't mean Nappa had a nice side. In fact that's exactly what happened to a saibaiman later, in anothe scene people use to justify their Nappa headcanon.Nappa was very confused when Vegeta killed the Saibamen, so at least he doesn't think of killing his allies, but yes, wouldn't say he's "nice". He's just not as evil as Vegeta, and moves on from that Saibamen's murder on the very next page.
>>586519742>the way they grow doesn't affect their strengthThat doesn't make much sense.I concede about the scouter tho, but I'm still correct in everything else>Raditz is still stronger and confirmed by Nappa in japanese>we don't know how long they live>or if they reproduce after being "deployed" like that>or if they will keep being slaves to them permanently>no reason not to get Raditz back if you just get any wishes you have granted
>>586520620I don't care about everything else, I simply see the nappa saibaman thing posted a lot in this thread
>>586520372>Please re-read the line you replied to. Entirely. Twice, if needed.Nothing indicates Raditz is stronger. Guides are not canon.>Shall I remind you they originally went to Earth because they needed Goku, who was not even 1/3 as strong as Raditz? If that Goku is useful then Raditz is the employee of the month.There's that but that was a Raditz thing. Vegeta himself said they were useless. If you can grant wishes than honestly you have better things to think about than shitty lackeys marginally helping you.>every decision that mass murderer took that you interpreted as "decent" was just the most practical choice for themReviving Raditz isn't the most practical choice for them. They'd rather wish for power or immortality. That's the practical choice. Nappa suggesting to revive Raditz is something purely done out of good faith for his comrades in arms. That's also why he's surprised when Vegeta kills him in cold blood, it implies that's something even he wouldn't do. He's a piece of shit and a butcher, but I have no issue believing he's less cold with his peers than Vegeta is.Asides from that what I was discussing in the otter situation is that his personality was more playful than this was portrayed, I think he'd hang out for a moment.
>>586520696Oh, and they have 6 (SIX) Saibaimen. Much more than Raditz could ever help. I very much doubt Nappa suggesting to revive Raditz and Vegeta telling him to stop joking around is a matter of practicality, it's supposed to highlight that Nappa is scary but Vegeta is worse.
I think brother is just mentally fixating on "nice" or "good"Frieza doesn't kill a single loyal ally on screen, only threatens one with good reason, and kills a bunch of allies with good reason off-screen. Frieza isn't "nice" or "good", but him killing his own men for helping him, or at mild annoyance is out of character.
So are the current rumors about Akio acquiring the manga rights true, or is that just headcanon from people trying to make sense of Shueisha undermining Dragon Ball yet again?
>>586521197In the RoF movie Frieza shot togoma and sent most of the crew in the room with him out into space because he suggested they focused on the rest of the universe.
>>586520696>he keeps talking about guidesLooks like re-reading twice wasn't enough. Re-read the line again. Yes, that line that mentions another source far more important that guides.>that was a Raditz thingRaditz follows Vegeta's orders. You don't have an argument here, both can be useful minions to Vegeta whether you like it or not.>if you have (as far you know) unlimited wishes you have better things to think than fixing every inconvenience you have, no matter how smallNo, you really don't. You would if you had restrictions to the wishes, then you would start from big stuff and ignore minor problems like your lackey's death, but Nappa never learned of them.>Reviving Raditz isn't the most practical choice for them. They'd rather wish for power or immortality. You really can't read, man. Nappa doesn't know about the DBs limits, there's no "rather", they don't have to choose between power, immortality or reviving Raditz, then can wish for all three, and wish for Nappa's hair to be back, and Freeza to become a cripple with a brain tumour, and to become kings of the universe, they can wish for all that the same day the conquer Earth as far they know, Nappa isn't choosing Raditz over anything, dumbass.
>>586521675In the movie made 20 years after the fact, made my a man who by his own admission didn't remember his story well, and by his own admission is susceptible to changing his story based on outside sources, this happened.Yes. Toriyama also took Bardock, Broly and SSJ4 off of Toei's plate, so the idea of him taking Frieza's personality from Toei's plate wouldn't be out of the question
>>586521805>Looks like re-reading twice wasn't enough. Re-read the line again. Yes, that line that mentions another source far more important that guides.Post the JP line and state why you think it indicates "only widely comparable but honestly Raditz is probably stronger" then.>Raditz follows Vegeta's orders. You don't have an argument here, both can be useful minions to Vegeta whether you like it or not.Not so much considering Vegeta doesn't care about offing even Nappa. I doubt he sees either of them as useful. In fact he says it so, they don't need a weakling. Either way it's still the same, if you truly think it's about practicality in that scene your media literacy is very lacking.>No, you really don't. You would if you had restrictions to the wishesPriority would still matter. You'd still go first for your power, not your weakling lackey. If you did the opposite then it'd show you're kinda nice to your guys. My point very much still stands.>I very much doubt Nappa suggesting to revive Raditz and Vegeta telling him to stop joking around is a matter of practicality, it's supposed to highlight that Nappa is scary but Vegeta is worse.
>>586517037Again>Now that Iyoku owns DB and doesn't care about Toriyama OR ShueishaIt doesn't matter if Toriyama wrote anything at this point based on DBS Beerus. They'll just staple his name onto random shit and go "Toriyama did this on his deathbed LMAO"
>>586506626>it was just a casual line, doesn't mean they did it in the pastNo it explicitly confirms they didn't do it in the past and didn't know it was possible.>or would have seriously considered itNo they fact that Nappa expressing intrest in doing it does require Nappa being intrested in doing it, or to have an in universe reason to lie. That might not be Toriyama's intention, but the idea that Toriyama doesn't know that what you have your characters say characterizes them is insulting AND it doesn't matter.
>>586523690I don't think you understand my point. There's a difference between seeing someone else do something and think "oh, it worked out well, maybe we should do it too" and you starting the trend yourself. I doubt Nappa or Vegeta would ever think to do this on their own, without having a Kakarot to try it for them and show good results first.
https://youtu.be/P6QEd8zjYQQ
>>586522195Oh hey, you finally learned to read. Only took you a couple tries, huh?Let's make a good summary so you don't get lost with all the scary words again>Raditz is stronger than the saibaimen>Goku would have been decent enough of a lackey to keep him around so no reason not to have Raditz as slave too>Raditz could have lived up to his 80s serving them like a good dog and could even produce other slaves if they ever actually wanted a few half saiyan soldiers in the future, the same can't be said about saibaimenAnd one last thing for your illiterate ass, I never said anything about going first. Neither did Nappa. He learned about the balls that can fix stuff when his slave died so this minor inconvenience he experienced had an easy solution, and he said it out loud, he never shows any special disposition to Raditz nor expresses his revival should take priority, you are just imposing your personal vision of him (aka headcanon).
>>586524290All that effort and Beerus isn't even at 10%
>Comparable means strongerNo
>>586515554Oh hell naw, now Salagir's artists are tracing All Might
>>586524347You're an insufferable pedantic dishonest faggot.By the way, I said>only widely comparable but honestly Raditz is probably strongerNot "comparable". Comparable indicates "maybe 1250, maybe 1150, same area though". 1500 is a step above that.Nappa isn't being practical. Being practical is thinking first of your power as the top dog, and only maaaybe after that you'd consider your underlings. MAYBE. He instantly goes "we need those? To revive Raditz?". It's a very clear indication of what I said above, that the point of this scene is to highlight Vegeta's the meaner one despite his smaller stature.Don't expect to make me waste more of my time though, your autism outweight any potential for discussion.
>>586524453im honestly suprised they still kept the whole "you made me use 10% of my power" against vegeta. Like out of all lines you'd think they'd drop those
>>586245048>Oh this fandom is up for a rude awakening when the trailer says 2029Good for me, they should release something good between the time, but unfortunately all parties involved are equally as retarded as SEGA even.
>>586524609>reading really scares him
>>586523907I think the fact that this is Nappa's first response upon learning it is possible means that it would be his first response upon learning it is possible.The idea that Nappa would ever learn about it on his own is silly.
It's over.
Heard there was a update for XV2's 10th anniversary.Logged in to the game and there wasn't anything new, was it all online only?
This whole thing about killing half Sayain thing reminds that if Bardock and Gine are loving parents with good family value's. Why does Raditz not seem to care about Gohan the 2nd?
>>586528001A new festival of universes
>>586529914that's a yes thenshame but expected
>YouTuber recommends me DB eceleb video>Is retarded>Know if I bring up the points and how they are retarded the thread will be derailed into drama about the persona
>>586528761It's talked like Bardock only got this trait recently, so maybe he didn't interact with Raditz long enough for that to be rubbed off on him.
>>586532467Do it on /v/
>>586474013Female majins are born to be semen demons.
>>586532580Good thing Bardock spared Granola a week before Frieza blew up Vegeta eh?
I missed the supreme Kai of time twice?!https://dbx.bn-ent.net/information/Hope she returns this month
>>586534635>100% human, Goku said
Man I really hope Sparking Zero updates SS Vegeta (Super) blast 1, the Ultra Ego Sign-like sparks look cool
Do you guys think they're going to skip SS2 in XV3?I'm not sure, but if they're going to be lazy with it like they are with SS3 and there won't be any changes to the hair then they may as well keep it.
>>586499197>You have to defend any garbage I wantNo.
>>586556035General Blue died as he lived: Gay
>>586557047He did die by being tongued by another man.
>>586528761To add to >>586532580 in the Broly movie you can see Raditz basically mimics Vegeta's reaction to the saiyans' destruction. He literally had the worst referent growing up.
>>586549029>you have to support people all over the world getting to enjoy DB in their respective homes so they can enjoy it and become fans of this wonderful universe Akira Toriyama createdWell, if you cared about DB then yes, 100%. If you are some sad retard shitposting on the internet then I guess it's fine for you not to care, so (You) are scott free, but Iyoku isn't, he's just damaging the brand because he sucks.
>Bro stop crying and just get good at the game, there is no other way learn to super counter and when to block>Ok fine, who do you main by the way?>MUI Goku
>>586562025>Care about my shitty dubs!Nah.
>>586562737>>MUI GokuHe's not that strong
>>586564094>He's not that strongYour mom is getting train wrecked by several black dudes right now in her bedroom
>>586564969/dbs/ is that way
>>586524290>goku goes kaioken .25 and skins beerus alive
>>586567371AF Goku has never done anything all that impressive.
>>586570480He made all of DBZ Fans think SS5 was real
>>586577332Wasn't even him, was one of the author's OCs
>>586577481Some day... some day Tablos will show up...
>>586578656I don't see it going well, Shueisha is just too big to let DB be published elsewhere.
Did they ever fix SZ's AI?
>>586580417If that's the case, why haven't they brought the manga back themselves. Toyble wants to continue it, but something's stopping him.
>>584841605>on that note, how long until someone adds buu to sagas?Perhaps it'll happen sooner than anyone might have expected.I didn't even think anyone would bother doing a recomp for it honestly.https://nimbus-project.pages.dev/
>>586580417Retard, read the entire thread, someone already posted it. Bird Studio changed their location to Tokyo and the board of directors consists of Sasuke and 3 CCT people, one of them being Iyoku. That all happened recently, in august of this year. Shueisha is fucked.
>>586581148Define fix.
>>586583798>Bird Studio changed their location to Tokyo and the board of directors consists of Sasuke and 3 CCT people, one of them being IyokuCool. And you think that gives them the publishing rights because?
>>586584524Toriyama's family has the final say.
>>586583798That change nothing to what I said. I don't see it working out to try and fight Shueisha in the publishing world.
>>586584524>>586585170Which is why Sasuke is one of the board members
>>586580417They have let many other series do that just well in the past few years, like Hokuto no Ken and Saint SeiyaThey just don't care about Dragon Ball. That's what this move is about in the first place
>>586591476Except that Dragon Ball is a massive cashmaker and it would be very pathetic of them to let it go.
>>586591476Dragon Ball alone will soon surpass the worth of Shonen Jump tho.
>>586578656I don't see why SuperChronicle gets posted so much, he's known to be full of shit.Like just a couple days ago he unironically said "Toriyama worked on this" in reference to DBS Beerus lmao
>>586595162>Like just a couple days ago he unironically said "Toriyama worked on this" in reference to DBS Beerus lmaoThe opposite actually.
>>586596276
>>58659686940 years from now they're still gonna be claiming Toriyama was involved in the creation of new projects.
It appears that Fenyo (a Shueisha employed (not Bird Studio) artist for Dragon Ball) has privated his youtube channel and deleted a vast majority of his art posts on twitter, while simultaneously privating his twitter account.Guess whatever Iyoku did really was that big.
so the mang's never coming back, right? it's all over and done with right
>>586598235>the best gal artist getting cut out of the loop
>>586598235>fenyo and toyotaro collab to release super weekly in the dragon ball magazinewe won
>>586602331The difference in art would be hilarious
>>586591476>They just don't care about Dragon Ball.It's not a question of caring, it's a question of them being a controlling megacorp that's challenged on their home turf of manga publishing.
>>586595162>I don't see why SuperChronicle gets posted so much, he's known to be full of shit.More importantly, he's indian.>>586598235Is he the one who was doing the cute DB crossover fanarts?
>>586599747Not until the potential kid appears on the spine art to end yet another manga
>>586393369>>586392802>>586393062Yamcha was a match for a partially trained freak of nature like Goku and he charged at and stopped Great Ape Goku in 1st Collection Saga,Yamcha fought Jackie Chun in the 21st WMAT when he wouldn't be much stronger than 1st Collection Saga Goku, and wasn't discouraged.Yamcha planned to charge at the Red Ribbon Army when he has at most a third of the training Krillin had.He didn't do anything really notable in the 22nd WMATAfter Goku went beyond the power of Piccolo Daimo who humiliated the rest of setting, Yamcha wasn't detured, and the only reason he wasn't fighting was because he was crippled.Yamcha wanted to help against Piccolo Jr, and only didn't after God and Roshi told him not to>But muh crater and he was scaredOkay so that makes it better because Yamcha doesn't retire even after being scared of a guy who can be one shot by injured base Goku.He seriously trains for the Sayians, though he comes out substantially weaker than Tien or Piccolo, so I guess that is a mark against him.But he keeps going trying to suprass Goku into Namek, even planning to fight Frieza and Cold, untill 19 and 20 show up and he goes through a complete change, and he is suddenly scared of the Androids, and by the end of the Saga he retires not just from Dragon Team which is understandable, but from Martial arts in general, there are lines dedicated specifically to making sure that the humans just suddenly stop going, this is much worse for Tien who doesn't even show signs of stopping until the HTC is introduced.Then of course Yamcha remains in this state into every sequel, while Krillin, Tien and EVEN Roshi regularly come out of retirement.
>>586604510I like how half of these are "yamcha PLANNED to do this, he COULD HAVE done this" Potential character. I just don't think Yamcha's all that cool, mang. Doing training isn't really much in this series and Yamcha just purely doesn't actually contribute much to the actual story. Wolf Fang Fist is a really cool sounding attack name and I think that has hard carried his popularity.
>asking which of us is strongerThe battle that would need to happen will destroy this universe and two others by proxy in the best case scenario shut the fuck up goku
>>586604897Yamcha showed up to fight Frieza and King Cold, he wouldn't not show up to fight Appule
>>586608170Anon, I don't think Yamcha is some kind of Koyama krillin tier coward or something, I just think he's kind of a nothing character who exists solely to eat shit.
>>586606931Didn't the XV2 MC beat the XV1 MC like twice?
>>586608432he's a jobber, like Tien. in the actual definition of the term. he exists to lose so the guy who beat him will look stronger.
>>586608432The conversation was about if it was accurate to Yamcha's character for him to not show up to events like RoF, I never claimed Yamcha was cool just that he kept showing up and trying to show up.>Krillin is a cowardShowed up to fight Frieza twice and actually did, tried to fight Tambourine to protect Goku's stuff after Killin could barely stand after he got hit by the Kamehameha varient that killed Piccolo Daimo.
>>586610019KOYAMA krillinnot krillinKOYAMA's interpretation of krillin in movies and filler
>>586609853Tien litteraly beat Goku in the Saga he was created for.
>>586610853Goku hard countered everything Tien threw at him and he only won by sheer luck. Like sure, he won, i'm not denying he didn't. But the 22nd fight wasn't exactly a great look for him.
>>586598235>It appears that Fenyo (a Shueisha employed (not Bird Studio) artist for Dragon Ball)Didn't that woman draw a bunch of art for DB Legends or Dokkan? I remember hearing that name before.>has privated his youtube channel and deleted a vast majority of his art posts on twitter, while simultaneously privating his twitter account.That doesn't sound like a good thing.What could have happened?>>586599747>so the mang's never coming back, right?It'll probably come back at some point.https://x.com/TOYOTARO_Vjump/status/2085168316210184602
>>586612120A jobber doesn't win by definition
>>586612912Even yamcha gets that one win against Goku though and I don't think anyone would call him not a jobber
>>586613005Well anyone who does would be wrong, because a Jobber also, by definition, fights a very limited number of times usually once. Yamcha is far too reoccurrent to be a Jobber.
>>586613504Isn't the use of Jobber as a narrative descriptor originally from wrestling? I don't think Jobbers were a one use thing in that medium
>>586613664Yes it's from wrestlingYes it is supposed to refer to a one use wrestler, that where the term "Job" in jobber comes from.
>>586613504the general use of Jobber these days solely refers to "guy who's main narrative use is to lose to show how strong someone is" Unless you're slanderposting, wherein a jobber is just a guy who loses in an embarrassing way
>>586614115Most Zoomers use "litteraly" to mean "especially"
>>586598235Why do Japanese artists do this so often?
>>586614414That's not even a zoomer thing, that was a millenial thing too. Besides, language changing over time is a perfectly normal thing.
>>586614414That's literally not true. Especially has a completely different meaning. There's nothing really special or extraordinary about your claim. It's just a blatant falsehood. "Blatantly false"="Literally not true" that's how most people in the Gen Z age bracket (18-30) mean it. Literally just sounds better cause it's not so formal and it's not literal. None of the words we use in regular conversation are. Just like how you use the words zoomer and boomer to describe everyone younger or older than you. Even though they very clearly defined generations, you still use them as hyperbolic buzzwords just like everyone else. That is how communication works.
YOU LITERALLY DON'T KNOW HOW BADLY I WANT TO FUCK 21, ESPECIALLY EVIL PINK 21
>>586616569For me, it's good 21.
>>586618443Too pure for lewd
a real man accepts all 21s
>>586608958He lost his literal mandate of heaven transferring into XV2. In 1 he tanked all of history being destroyed, while in 2 he was erased from existence just by Towa zapping Shenron in one moment.Anyway, XV1 hero really ended up as a hilarious artifact of the strange lifecycle the series ended up having, XV2 having 10 times the lifespan. Maybe he should have canonically retired after XV2 base game given how irrelevant he ended up being, now the only thing we can headcanon is that the hero who originally saved all of time just ended up grinding PQs and EMs with the rest of the peons.
>>586612912a Jobber does win, but only against irrelevant opponents to show that they have skills and aren't all talk. they lose when it matters. Tien and Yamcha dunked on regulars at the WMAT to get to the semifinals, which is where they have their designated humiliation rituals so the audience knows the person they lost to is a real threat. if Tien and Yamcha lost against nobodies, they'd just be creampuffs.
>>586614583no it isn't. only English suffers this abuse, because English is practically the only major language on the planet with no official governing body dictating what the legal definitions of words are. trying to deliberately warp word definitions is an actual crime in places like France.
>>586619563Why are you proud of the fact that your country polices your speech?
>>586619563Most french people i've seen see the french legal definition thing as a complete joke run by out of touch old people who want a language to be static out of nationalistic zeal. Languages change, that's a perfectly fine and normal thing.
>>586619810It is a joke but for the exact opposite reason, they keep adding retarded meme buzzwords and thug lingo into the dictionary.
>>586620160The only purpose of a dictionary is to define words people use. If that's a word people use, then it's its job to define it
>>586619706I'm not French. But I wish we had some method besides Merriam-Webster keeping bad-faith faggots trying to manipulate society into thinking up is down.
>>586619347>Jackie Chun and Son Goku are not irrelevant nobodiesFalse
bt3 tag team is so fucking fun dude, all my dreams are coming true, all thanks to our friends down in silicon valley
>>586632160They apparently added transformations to Battle of Z now, games are being fixed.
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>>586612493Fenyo is a male lol
