Skyborne Troll Edition>News, Dev Blogposts & Podcasthttps://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/>Patch Noteshttps://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-october-15/2360696/6>Talent Calculatorhttps://wowforevertalents.com/>DatesName reservations on October 27.The journey begins on November 4>NA Guilds<Clover Club> RP-PvP Alliance | https://discord.gg/ZQ2uWkkqbc<FUN HAVERS> PvE Alliance | https://discord.gg/TNTkQTpdVD<Remigration> PvP Horde | https://discord.gg/K9QEFCzxf>EU Guilds<Niflheim> RP-PvP Alliance | Discordlessprev >>585952156
Reminder that this game is a beta for Retail.
They...they didnt need to make her that hot
Dwarf warrior.orUndead warrior. Sell me on them, I can't decide.
shortstacks run this game
i feel bad for all the newfriends going to pve servers not knowing blizzard implemented anti-ganking mechanics such as a 20 minute time out for gankers who gank the same person more than 5 times in a short period of time and also auto-layering after being ganked multiple times in a row.
Have you stocked up food and water for the upcoming emergency?
>>585967946Dwarf, i'd rather be a dwarf than a former human.
I can't wait to tear blue elf pussy on day 1
>didnt pay for early names>hope someone didnt take my name>refrigerator kaleidoscope fuck im nervous
I want a Nelfie mommy gf
Alliancebros... what's she doing?
do australians really have to deal with 200 ping? niggas really getting that banilla experience
>>585967946ally zones got more love with this whole forever thing. horde is cool but they did nothing that new.
Healsisters what frames are the meta now? Is vuhdo still okay?
>>585967876retail is getting forevers sloppy seconds because its being sunsetted
>>5859679461% hit chance with Dwarf. Just saying.
>>585967946femdead have better attack animations
>>585968096erpvping
DO NOT TAKE MY NAMEDO NOT TAKEREFRIGERATOR KALEIDOSCOPE PLEASE DO NOT TAKE THIS
>>585968040>deals more damage than arcane missiles
>>58596804020% sp scaling too, 1800 is the base damage
dwarf females are hot now?
Do I buy the heroic pack or the ebin pack, what does the extra $15 give me?
>>585967946Undead leeching 5% HP every 15s sounds so good, dwarf hit is gonna be good for 6 months and after that it will just help you with OH
>>585968096orc POV
>>585968208I so want skirts & loincloths for my tribal tauren mog
>>585968168the game has built in mouseover and click casting already and it's easy so use default, classiui or ellesmere ui
>>585967876You can trust the fat towel. He told me 10.0, 11.0, and 12.0 would ALL be Different.
>>585968040This is the strongest spell shadow priests can have
>>585968350I can't with their run lads
>>585968040This is one of those things that would have been nerfed in a heartbeat if the duel tournament was on Alliance side.
>>585968350>dwarf females are now the archetypical >thick goth mommy are bbws and thick women going to be on the way out soon as far as popularity
What went wrong?
can i still farm ZF as a mage in fagrever?
>spent my shekels for name res>dont know what names to useAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>585967946You can snowflake as the most based, yet least played race in WoW. Do not decide based on racials in an unsolved, evolving game.
>>585968128not anymorealthough idk if there will be aus bgs or what
>>585968313sorry my bad its more than that
You guys are probably sick of hearing this, and many of you have probably turned to contrarianism because of it too, but BRD really is the greatest dungeon of all time. I probably haven't ran it nearly as many times as most of you guys have, but every time I have ran it, it's been amazing. And I really do mean EVERY fucking time.I have lots of fond memories from the runs I've done of it. And truth be told I haven't finished it too many times. Maybe like 4 runs actually ended with it being finished, the rest were all cut short for one reason or another. Usually people just have to go and then the group falls apart because we can't find a replacement. If Forever can make even 1 unique new dungeon as good as BRD, I'll be so fucking happy.
Undead PallySimple as
mandatory sloppa
please blizzardlet us spam dungeonslet us play how we want to playnot how you want us to playwhat does it matter to you or anyone else if some of us like to run dungeons instead of quest? questing is so mind numbingly boring.it's not even good content for streamers. people get more hype watching their favorite streamers collab with other streamers during dungeons.
I'm taking off the 5th and 6th so I can speedrun and find exploits. I get off of work the 4th to get home and play at launch. Feels good bros.
>>585968090link full you coward
its official
female human magepvpsolo
>>585968507my boxxxy tits jiggle less, this is a travesty, blizzard is woke and hates trannies that had boob jobs so must burrrrn
>>585968040Gee, night elf. How come Blizzard let's you get TWO op racials?
>>585968040is it finally usable in actual dps rotations though? how about when stacking shadow dmg?
>>585968773Fuck you. Enjoy the outdoor content.
>>585968532aint no way dwarf is less played than gnomes and tauren? not that Id mind, love me sum snowflaking
>>585968773you can still spam dungeons lil gup
>>585968789you are officially gay
>>585968773>t indo postingsar it is done
>>585968847It's around twice as much dps as mind blast after including all the shadow damage talents
>tell party you are OOM>she trades you some milkwould you drink it?
>>585968789>Teldrassil: amazing>Duskwood: goodabsolute shit-tier tier list gtfo
>>585968990GULP it
>>585968990
>>585968990guzzle it and ask to take it from the tap
>>585968040>channeled (6 seconds)man we got some absolute shitters in this general salivating over this
>>585968990from the TAP
Can a paypiggy who bought the beta tell me if leveling as a prot warrior is good or not?
>>585968847its not good for pve shadow once you have some basic gear, because of the scaling and mana cost, its insane for pvp though
i see a lot of slow and comfy fags trying to grandstand and sit on your high horse, but there are far better games than replaying a 2004 game made by the same breast milk drinkers that make retail, for the bajillionth time even. the quests are actually even worse than retail. so the only thing you are playing for is balance changes and autism. the people trying to fomo race to the finish line are actually the only people who are correct here.
>>585969090Unfortunately I can't, since I got the beta for free from mcdolan points i had
>>585969060What spells can you cast over 6 seconds that will deal more damage?
>>585969090is good
>>585968858For alliance, yes, barely, but for horde tauren and trolls are lowest overall for both factions. Though, the gnome increase could've just been from people trying out the new gnome racials. Guess time will tell with what people actually play long term on launch rather than beta info:https://classicplus.io/
When will you guys admit that Retail chads are just better, cooler, sexier, more intelligent, and far more skilled than (you)?
>>585969060>the best priest in the game(hydra) is rolling NE and is saying its completely broken and is expecting it to get nerfedcrazy how retarded you are
i cant believe this time next we'll all BE SMASHING THE FUCKING RECONNECT BUTTON BECAUSE THE SERVERS WILL BE FUCKED
Horde wants you, Horde wants you, Horde wants you as a new recruit!
>lifelong friend doesn't have much time to play anymore, like maybe a few hours a week>we agree I'll make an alt just to play with him whenever he's on>he decides to roll the class I've mained for 20 yearsI don't know how to feel about thisflattered...? betrayed...?feels weird man
You guys are gonna get curious about retail, come try it, and realize its the game youve been missing you’re whole life.
>>585969259
>>585969290We're finally going home... Just 7 more sleeps (or maybe 6 if you're not an austard)
jesus christ what a shitty ai model disgusting
>put down a fishing hut>fish up some cratescomfy times are upon us...
Why is anyone going to play pvp since the whole theme of forever seems to be leveling and leveling after the first month will be a pain in the ass?
>>585969134If there are far better games then why are you replaying it at all? >"Umm, game sucks so I'm going to jump on and spend a few weeks speedrunning all the content because... BECAUSE I JUST FUCKING AM OKAY???"What a stupid fucking thing to say. I can't fathom having that mindset. If I don't like a game and it's starting over again I don't feel obligated to play it and speed through the content to get it over with asap. I just don't play it.I'm playing WoW Forever because I like the look of it. When I like something I want to savor it. I'm not planning on dropping it anytime soon so there is no rush to get to the end.
>>585969060Priest aren't like other casters where they can just keep spamming their best spell. Shit like Penance and Mind Blast have cooldowns. Using 6s on a channel isn't a big deal for them.
>>585969176>>585969259lmao you can't deal more than 1800 damage in 6 seconds at max level?you can exceed that with entry level dungeon gear as a rogue easily
>>585969290
>>585969319>tfw was planning to go based forsaken but my group decided they like alliance better
>>585969426So what? You'll be playing with him on an alt. He can pick any class he wants. There are only like 9 classes.
>>585969426the alt you play with him wont be your main though? Just play whatever supports his class best so he has more fun and plays more
>>585968652still find it funny that artificial intelligence was created, and porn generation seems to be about the only thing it does that doesn't lose money
holy fuck fem gnomes are so hot now
>>585969432Kek retail troons are in the bargaining stage of grief
>>585969519but you can be one of the chuds that make it a pain in the asshow often can you say that in today's environment
>>585969290i promise itll be the cleanest launch ever
>>585969519Owning the other faction is the most fun part of the leveling process.
>>585969573It's more about it being an arcane spell so it's fine if it gets kicked
>>585967952
>>585967589I hope that Illidan's prison will be cool.
>>585969442he changed his mind on name reservation and is going NE
>>585969770Cumming in her little mouth
>>585967946>FOR KHAZ MODANhttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/XHuy1D0Dbbw
>>585968532There is nothing based about Warcraft dwarves. This place sounds like reddit now, thanks retail.
>>585969573This is not some one time burst, it's every 30 seconds and while you are channeling it your mind blast is coming off cooldown and dots are ticking away
>>585969442>>585969868to add, the reasoning is NE is the proactive OP choice and starshards is overtuned, gnome is the reactive and safer OP choice
>Human men want one thing and it's fucking disgusting
>>585970056Moves in a similar way to those Silithid hives...
>>585968773BUT THE JOURNEY!WANNA SPAM DUNGEONS? RETAIL IS THAT WAY!
>>585969932
>>585970029I think shadowmeld + Elune's Grace have a way higher skill cap than Gnomes racial so I can see it pulls ahead in his hand but for most ppl gnomes will be better
>>585963557>>585952454Full preset please I want a dumb bimbo paladin so bad
wonder if we're getting the unavailable talents to be revealed on launch or maybe later in another phase
Journey enjoyers run this general
>>585969673>>585969729Yeah but what if you want to level another character
>>585968773>think of the poor streamerslollmao
Give me one reason I should Power infuse you.
>>585968572Truth. I ran it countless times in vanilla for onyxia quest, MC keys and healing stealth runs for barman's shankers for all our rogues. Runs usually ended at Angerforge but occasionally people would want to go on to seven dwarves or the vaults or all the way to the end. I really hope they don't add anti-stealth run mechanics to the new mega dungeons. I also have concerns min-maxers will just dip out after the boss they need. An incentive to keep going, even if it's just a rep grind, with some natural drop off points like bonus rep for killing the last boss of a wing, would be nice.
>>585970329Because I do the most damage. You don't have to though, I don't care.
>>585970276If they aren't being added at launch I'm not sure why they would even be there
>>585968572Didn't read, but cute red dragonflight feet
>>585967885That's just femgnomes. They just ARE hot.
>>585968773Convince me all the unnerf dungeon xp comments here and on reddit aren't just singaporean rmt mage boosting astroturfers.
>>585970329I can cast starshards
>>585967876Why would it be a beta for something already out?
>>585968523nope
How the fuck is pvp ranking going to work when bgs are spread across all realms?
I wish undead had a full on skeleton model option and an all flesh upright option like the vampire looking forsaken from the alpha
>>585970329>dwarf priest>entitled cuntI'm noticing a pattern...
at what level did you guys do the sleeping bag quest, 20 when that was the cap?
>>585967779That webm feels straight out of cataclysm :(
>>585970691Is it even worth doing? All that time wasted getting it could be better spent questing
>>585970329Why are the default alliance priest robes so feminine looking
>>585970691there's no point in rushing it. it's not good.
>>585970609It's not the same rank system as vanilla. You just grind to a "rank point" cap each week and eventually you get r14.
>>585970609They're getting rid of the no-life grind competition. Basically if you participate regularly youre gonna get rank 14 or whatever it is
>>585968773Nice try, Chang
>>585969090real good. should prob stay prot until level 30 or so when you can get some huge 2hers and then finish off 50-60 as fury
>>585970814>>585970803I guess so, I thought it'd be quite nice with the lw camp buff and food buff
>>585969546>implyingi already decided i'm not playing. i'm just here to win arguments and laugh at you mazed rats. >I like the look of itas long as you understand it's autism that is compelling you to play this game. but it's not a valid argument to be using against others.
>>585970890it would be if it didnt take 3 full minutes to ramp up, its nice when you afk and such ofc, but its not worth going out of your way to get imo
>>585970880that's my plan, though I will level as arms probably 30+ because sweeping strikes is just too comfy
>>585970691when I was in the neighborhood.it grants you a precision bow which is a decent green bow, so hunters should try for it early
>>585968773>"let us play how we want to play">people literally only played like this cus they're mindless sheep who followed streamers
>>585968773hehe nah
will there be race / gender swap services for forever or am I locked in for real when I decide what to play?
Is Prayer of Mending really that good? Aside from the sound effect and the intelligent heal on damage proc. I see many people glazing the spell in PvE and PvP
>>585968773hmmmmm nyo
>>585971232Pretty sure the barber can transition your gender. As for races there is no info. I'd say they will probably do it.
Suck it mfmf
>>585971232I imagine they'll add paid race change once they start rolling out more dlc races, but who knows.You can already change gender at the barber for some reason.
>>585968773>please blizzardwhat>let us spam dungeonsthere is nothing stoping you, its not like hordecore classic where you get 1 a day.>let us play how we want to playno one is stopping you from spamming dungeons>not how you want us to playgo do it.>what does it matter to you or anyone else if some of us like to run dungeons instead of quest? questing is so mind numbingly boring.so go do dungeons.>it's not even good content for streamers. people get more hype watching their favorite streamers collab with other streamers during dungeons.world of warcraft is basically a just chatting steam with live world of warcraft b-roll instead of Minecraft parkour or subway surfer.
>>585971234i wish i could have pom and penance
is PvP even good with this megarealm shit, are there just some layers you are completely outnumbered and other layers where you just get to free kill single players
>>585971234Try using it here and you'll see how broken it is, remember that it cost less than a renewhttps://wow-forever-rotation.vercel.app/sim?class=priest&spec=holy-priest
>>585971232You can swap gender at the barbershop *snip snip*
>>585971328>>585971387>>585971471oh, good to know. not that it helps much without also changing the name, but good to know.
>>585971449it's not that bad, obviously it tries to balance factions in the layers, not like it's hard to do thatit has the obvious disadvantages of jankiness at layer borders and no heckin tight knit server community
>>585971449I'd rather have layering issues than pvp servers dying after 3 months because 1 faction gets too many players.
>>585969660always have been
>>585971468
>>585970513>convince me i'm not a schizosorry bro i can't do that. it's time for your meds, schizo.
>>585971441are you saying there is no psychological component to playing the game? that if there is little to no reward it doesn't have a detrimental effect on the playerbase? the game is built around FOMO and if we aren't constantly making progress towards level 60 which every aspect of the game promotes except successive dungeon runs then we are less than, we are just wasting time
>>585971449it will be fine, and if its shit I'm sure they'll adjust it. If you actually want more balanced PvP just hop in a BG.
>>585971618If you're also able to pick a somewhat unisex or ambiguous name, then it works
>>585971083yeah it's 1-30 prot 30-50 arms finish with fury once you get 2 solid 1handers. warrior leveling shouldn't be bad at all
>>585971468>if every party member is taking damage constantly it's goodToo bad most fights only the tank really takes damage and any damage hitting the rest of the party is usually something you are supposed to avoid or it's one bigger hit so you are lucky if the pom procs twice per cast
>>585971846Now that's a gnome.
>>585971117as opposed to mindless sheep who follow restedxp? not the epic pwn you think it is, timmy.
>>585971838ive been pondering but a dwarf name that fits both genders? Dont think such a thing exists
>>585971775You make progression doing dungeons, just slower. In exchange, you don't have to play with anyone but your group.thats the trade.
>>585971748How can I compete as a Disc>>585971890>Too bad most fights only the tank really takes damageLarp suprême
how can you watch the recent amv video and still think. "yeah, this game is made for me" with a straight face? i can imagine you need to pretend you don't see all the red flags to that soft-woke slop and how somehow is badass and a retvrn to form
>>585971846how is she talking and drinking at the same time????
>>585971775idk what you are trying to say nigga
>>585968350Always have been
>>585971994shes a woman, they dont stop yapping for anything
>>585972019not my fault you have a low iq, anon.
The troons journey>eh I'll use the foid models >wow people are showing me a lot of attention because they think I'm a girl>i guess I'll flirt back with this guy>maybe I actually am a girl at heart>yes doctor I think my life would improve if I started living as a woman>these chuds keep on calling me a man but I'm a woman!>DRUMMMMMMMMMPFFFFF>its a long way down>dead. tombstone says birth name.Whew
>>585969856>Reverse image search>Fanartist who draws shit tons of Illidan x MaeivYeah. Jackpot.
>>585971980Disc is more of a MT healer but ngl, I don't really see a reason to use one over a RShaman
>>585971990Every retail player is already numb to this shit. You play the game for the game and ignore the cringe garbage the faggots in California are putting on the WoW yt channel.
>>585971468this isnt very good because it doesnt take into account downranking, and yes we are downranking again
>>585971979>>585972019i got stuck in a shit pug for WC i ran cause i just wanted gear upgrades, we were in there 2.5hrs and my asshole was itching the whole time hoping someone would leave before i did so i had an excuse to leave. we couldnt kill the tree boss, the whole fuckin thing felt like a massive waste of time, i could have gotten so much more progress collecting boar asses
>>585971387>paid race change>racial balance changeswestern players often pretend like gacha players are findom cucks. but it's really you who likes getting your balls stepped on by corporate interest.
>>585972126why do you peoplealways write a bunch of useless shit?>eh i'll use the foid models>NOTHING FUCKING HAPPENS>i'll just make up a bunch of shit in my head and then type it out for attention
>>585969932Warcraft dwarfs are knockoff Warhammer dwarfs, and Warhammer dwarfs are the most based dwarfs.
There's a hot gnome working in the grocery store closest to my house, but I'm too much of an incel to make a move on her...
Is it cope to have hope I'll be able to play Ele shaman at 60 and actually compete? There's no way Blizzard keeps it as is right?
>>585972126>wow people are showing me a lot of attention because they think I'm a girlnever happened
>>585972406He posts that shit every couple of threads. Just fishing for validation I think...
>>585972406What stage are you at on the troons journey?
So when I login on the 4th my beta character will still be there right? Blizzard wouldn't steal all the gold I paid good money for from me, right?
>>585972406its literally a mental illness, do you think since we closed the asylums that people stopped going crazy
>>585972492>and actually compete?compete with who? its wow nigga, just get your pretzels, beer and weed for #comfy times
>>585972570Oh for sure
>>585972562How many BASEDs have you gotten spamming your tranny obsession every thread? Not many from what I've seen.....
>>585972051I give them credit for working the cosplay mog pretty well
>>585972268Yeah you probably should have a lower rank renew and greater heal but I don't think you want to use lower rank PoM
>>585972492They will likely balance the PvE aspects of the game pretty well in the end.However I think the bursty ele of Vanilla is no more and it will likely be kinda meh.
>>585971990>>585972259evanescence was p huge back in the day. and all the zoomer music these days is mid 2000s revival slop. deftones type shit. so either you guys just don't like music at all or are just hating to hate. which i guess it's wowfg
need it to be nov 4 already
At least.... after much deliberation.... after intense mental struggle... weeks of agonizing back-and-forth deliberation.... I have reached a single conclusion...I will play and main.... MALE HUMAN PALADIN.
>>585972816The music was not the problem with that video
we love anime here
>>585972562NTA, but I'm at the stage where i can very easily tell when someone is lashing out due to their unresolved gender dysphoria and projecting their own insecurities onto the people they wish they could be, but are too ashamed by their social conditioningIt's you, anon
Need a skelf gf with hairy pussy and armpit hair
Does priest benefit from hammer smith at all?
>hunters nerfed to ground>mages left out from the start>warlocks not much better offIs the literal only ranged option going to be druid???
>>585972858You're so brave for having the "I think Floyd's music is pretty good" of statements
>>585971748
>>585972858
>>585971775What are you yapping about, there's very little FOMO content in game. All i can think of is seasonal pvp rank transmogs, and those might not even be limited either.
>>585972946i don't see the issue with the video. did you just want it to be men in the video? maybe they should have had a man singing instead too. swear these chuds are almost gayer than the actual faggots
>>585973042>warlocks not much better off
>>585973042>balance>not shitAnon you might want to sit down...
all social interactions are inherently FOMO which is why the game should be taken offline and made solo
>NTA, but I'm at the stage where i can very easily tell when someone is lashing out due to their unresolved gender dysphoria and projecting their own insecurities onto the people they wish they could be, but are too ashamed by their social conditioning
>>585973042Stop posting this whore.
>>585973042ranged dps will be the kings of dps for groups and raids, they are already least played of all classes.
>>585973172explain or fuck off>>585973190don't care for balance slop, I just want to be able to get into raids.
>>585972994Yea im a level 67 Tranny Hunter too… I can smell um miles away… unfortunately…
Someone explain this rune and etching shit. Also I’m getting mixed messages if warriors get rage while under priest shields without the rune.
>>585973086is there a hard mode were you actually take more damage?
>>585973042turn around
>>585973267>don't care for balance slopWell that's the only option you have for ranged druid
>>585973267>explain or fuck offgo look at their talents vs. vanilla retard
>>585973294What rune shit? Warriors get rage in priest bubbles.
585973042You dont even play the game so what difference does it make.
>caring about racials >caring about faction balance>caring about meta>caring about XP optimization Kill yourself
It's not too late, sister. You can start your real life today. You don't have to keep doing this day in and day out.
>>585973294Runes are from SoD. Forever was built on SoD inside the retail engine so a lot of the Rune crap is still in the files but isn't actually available in game.and yes they changed it so warriors get rage even with pwshield.
https://www.wowhead.com/forever/guide/azeroth-commerce-authority-reputation-professions is there literally any good recipes in this shit? spoonfeed me
>>585973338
>>585967779>10 threads a daywhen will the spam come to an end?
>>585968040Only a matter of time...
>>585973418based. all that shit is not the spirit of the game at all, and I personally very much look forward to seeing all the retards realize this after reaching maxlvl while Im comfy every time I play.
>>585973469seethe
>>585973418>caring about a 22 year old game you already playedi win.
>>585973390Like you can etch “pain suppression” onto your boots and that’s lets you cast pain suppression? I dunno I’m going off WoW head.
Will rule-set transfers ($60 + tip) happen?My friend group just locked in PvE...
>>585972361>I could have left but I didn't.Sounds like a you problem.
>>585967946undead are like the 2nd worst looking race in plate
>>585973387oh but the soul shards, oh the soul shards
>>585973042If you think balance can compare to the fun/utility/variety of mage/hunter/lock you're in for a surprise. It's a meme spec and it hasn't changed much.
>>585973530Probably just SoD remnants. Skills owrk normally.
>>585973418
>EVERYONE GIVE THE AVATARFAG 5 REPLIES EVERY POSTDoomed general and the game isn't even out yet.
update?
>>585968805you can evade a roguecel for 1.4 seconds? heck yea!
Do you think elemental and balance will be worth a shit or can we only expect Blizz to give shaman/druid only one sort of okay DPS spec?
>>585973086nm I'm dumb
>>585973530That is how you got new spells in SoD but that shit isn't in Forever. The Runes will still show up during datamines when one of those spells get changed though, which has confused a lot of people.
>>585968792Kill yourself
>>585973661They upped the launch date to tomorrow.
>>585972139I like his artworks.
>>585973745if you enjoy it its very much worth. you can clear all this shit with any spec.
>>585973660>san diego>breeskek. this cat meme is dated.
>>585973661another racial retune>tauren endurance now grants 1% hit chance with spells and abilities
>>585973745as if mage has at least 3 okay dps specs LMAO
>>585968805we need to get to the bottom of if things like aimed shot sniper shot eviscerate etc count as attacks or if it's literally just white hits
its kinda funny maiev x illidan has been a fanship for ages and not even once has blizzard budged and suggested at all they dont despise each other
>>585973116wtf are you talking about, not being 60 gives everyone fomo and raids on 12/9 magnify that, not getting rank every week will give people fomo, legacy points give everyone fomo, the game has always been top heavy at level cap which is not going to change, people saying to enjoy the journey want to get to level 60 just as bad as everyone else
Glad blood elves are finally at Alliance but I really do miss he green eyes....
>>585968805>for 15 secondsholy>or until 3 attacks missshit
The new dungeons are just retail lite dungeons. They’re all giant open rooms M+ style designed so you can skip trash.
>>585973717*missed kidney shot*Nothing personal, kid
>>585974034>Blizzard reviews Blizzarrd's product and congratulates Blizzard on a job well done.
>>585973991because illidan simps for tyrande and his brother married tyrande and that's way juicer than "lol maev".
>>585973530Ah, no. Warrior, for example, learns victory rush at level 20, its not a rune.
>>585973447yes, i got a 10 stam leather helmet with leatherworking at lvl 20no on knows about late game but it's OP early game
>>585974034the core engine is legitimately one of the best, the netcode is some black magic voodoo shit
>>585974101trash skips are anti-M+ design
>>585974056theres something missing in this picture
An "World of Warcraft: Forever 27 CashGrab Special Edition" whenSeriously, i proudly prefer the retail "Talesbound" named standalone mode that are set to release late november 2026After the 12.1.7 PTR, the new standalone experience was named "WOWHACK" in intern and was set to remplace the outdated trial edition with exclusive shitty class
I want to build a harem of gnome hebes bros....
>>585973231different anon, but no also unironically pretty excited to play a video game, feels weird being giddy about something also whats up with the troon rager crashout they havent even been avatar fagging, go look at private wow server general and look at the >muh clique guilds orbiting some "chick" - anyways, i want hardiness back to the old resist, not reduce, RESIST!
>>585974280do you think he's ever been inside a retail dungeon let alone retail itself
>>585973418>caring about faction balanceI mean if it won't let me make a character, yes I should care
>>585974285Big green cock
>>585973649Not an argument. You lost. Kill yourself.
>>585974101They are not that great but not bad. At least they don't have any escort or "wait for RP" shit. I am happy to see what else they can come up with. I have no idea what retail dungeons are like but these nu dungeons are better than the cata dungeons I used to hate.
>>585974128haha! yeah! and now its on cd so he cant just press it again immediately after! GET FUCKED ROGUECELS AHAHAHAHAHA
>>585968096
>>585974034I mean for an engine over 20 years old it's surprisingly resilient.
>>585973231
https://files.catbox.moe/invu8p.mp3BUS DA BRASS MON
>>585974430Ruins of lordaeran is great, I didn't do the level 30 stuff on beta.
lmao uppity faggot
guys what does it mean when guildies call me an egg
>>585974436The average rogue just vanishes if their I-win macro goes off script
>>585974575when the pov is green
Is there a list of all dungeons and what level I should be for them?
>>585973042>lust inducing image>idiotic statement>6(you)s
>>585957327is it gonna be the same in forever?
I'm glad from watching the collection of rogue nolifers on the official podcast that my casual baby opinion of "Venom is shit, no one would've been upset if they just gave us Envenom, Evenom is a good button everyone likes pushing" wasn't just me having no idea what I'm talking about, because that's apparently the opinion of the people who do all the high end rogue content too. I feel validated
>>585974594Dalaran is good and has some properly challenging/annoying enemies. I didn't mind the others at all. Excavation is short but so what? It's OK to have some short dungeons. And the raptor part is neat. They should make the rest of it harder though.
>>585969442Imagine being this retarded like it matters
>>585974715>vibe coded simulators
>>585973991maiev was already character assassinated like all wow women. no need to do it twice.
>>585974034I still remember it took them a decade and a half to add four bag slots to the main backpack because of the spagetting codemiss me with that shit
>>585974803bluds really be stressing racials just to parse green or die in bgs while keyboard turning
I have never seen goblin enjoyers post one remotely on model
>>585974054>wtf are you talking about, not being 60 gives everyone fomo and raids on 12/9 magnify thatunironically mental illness, get yourself checked nigga
>>585969496>mfw when I can fish from the other room using an Xbox controller and have the sound at maximum
>>585974856It's so funny how one-dimensional and in fact sexist tranny-written women are. Really makes you think.
>>585974932mega comfy, I can fish on my steamdeck too
>>585974715i like the booba version desu
>>585974389Night Elven woman was build for Big Green Cock purpose onlyI personally wish that Night Elven pussy was realRetail troon was so retard that they was Behind any possible comprehension
>was away the whole day>blizz fixed the restricted name bullshit>the names i had tried so desperately to do yesterday were available when i wasnt here>i lost them alli fucking hate my life, why does it keep being like this
>>585974219i've played korean mmos with less bugs and mishaps.
>>585974715>shockadin>retribution>A
>>585974928>muh off-modelWhat are you going to do about it?
>>585974990I'm considering buying a steam deck for this purpose, and slay the spire.
Gnomaholes
>>585974928Goblins are nasty, people should post cute trolls
>>585974587https://files.catbox.moe/dqebwb.mp3
>>585975091I haven’t even logged in yet and I already have ESL fatigue.
alexensual runs this general
>>585974932how do you know where the bobber lands and where to click on console controller?Can you switch between traditional and controller controls? Fuck I would love to find a cozy spot and lean back and fish
>>585975060Give me that pussy (Trump)
>>585975179you first
>>585974928
nelf or human rogue? I don't wanna play *****
>>585975110Names aren't that serious lil bro, take a deep breath and touch some grass.
>>585974056post them worshipping human c*ck
>>585975110You only think you care about those stupid names because of FOMO and boredom.
>>585975205>he doesn’t knowNobody tell him
>>585975234I don't save such pictures on my computer
>>585975240nelf is pvphuman if pve
>>585975110What names did you miss out on?
>>585975194alexensual fell off
>>585975318don't you mean human for pvp and nelf for pve?
almost 350 posts of the trans discord faggots avatarfagging and not talking about the game, grimcan't imagine the highlight of your day being spamming your ritual posts over and over again with every new bake lol you're fucking losers lol
>>585974752No because we aren't 200 ping keyboard-turning unoptimized retards anymore, that anon is full of shit and knows you can't prove him wrong because WoW won't release original state raids, therefore he's free to talk shit. Yes, Naxx was a gear check, but a big reason so few cleared that he conveniently doesn't bring up is it was because Naxx came out right before TBC's release and so there was a very small window to do it. People had Naxx on fucking speedrun mode in Era.
>>585975110Anon if your name was taken it was obviously uncreative and not even worthy of even being called glup shitto tier. Try and read a book or something.
>>585975392the game isnt out dumbass
>Everyone gets a free mount after paying 100g for trainingI'm not sure how to feel about this one.
>>585975236That's muh green money making queen
>>585974587lmao on topic post related to poor optimization i kind of fuck with this ai music
>>585975236Their tits aren’t that big.
>>585975441making the goldsink on riding is a good change fuck off
I thought rogues were supposed to be on top?
>>585975441Can't wait to see 50% of the population using the retail mount to save 150g
>>585975129For shockadin, it's even simulating using the manual crowd pummeler and swapping to an epic katana that has been found recently, crazy work
>>585975509it's not a change it was in 1.11 or something
>>585975426My names from an 18th century Scottish poem and I didn't get it.
>>585975509Yeah, but a free mount? You really can’t spare just 10 more gold?
>>585975529that's a vibecoded sim based on beta version datahope this helps!
>>585975440every single one of their bfs is the color green
>>585975441do locks and pallies get free riding or is it just a spell to summon a mount? I cant remember
I can't wait to fish and manipulate the AH like a jew with my fishies
>>585975441Isnt this exactly what you paid vanilla for lvl 40 mount? think it was split 80 / 20 oder something but literally same shit
>>585975505I’ll allow it. At least they didn’t completely anime the face.
>>585975440I'll take #2 thanks
>>585975441>implying I’ll ride anything with the name Pride in itUn’goro Raptor Chads like me can’t wait to see what is needed for it
>>585975180I have hope they will fix the sharding shit, it is kinda wild
>>585975529Is that smite sim with starshards?
>>585975608it ~was~ a spell.
>>585975440
>>585975440gimme a #4 with cellulite and hairy pits and jungle pussy
Alliance skelves should be able to be paladins and I dont care if you disagree
>>585975179all troll women look like angry black women in game. none of them look like the sexy anime ones that get posted
>>585975505Why would every goblin have the same sized tits
can u guys rate my names.... :3>comedy tragedy>allhallows eve
>>585963014>39>2018>night elf warrior
>>585975705thats what I thought, so if they do the epic questline (which still costs 100s of gold) they get cucked out of ever switching mounts unless they pay the full toll, sad
How does plains running wor with aspect of the cheetah? Do you just run at cheetah speed until you build enough stacks for it to be higher than cheetah?
>>585975194"Who"This guy was really named their username alike "AlexSexual69"Seriously, this guy (Alex) was so cringe has fuckI am pretty sure that the only woman that this narcissist cuckold had brought into their bed was her proper mother
ahahahahah faggot cuck melty
paladin blessings should be deleted from the game. theyre just too difficult to figure out for many
>>585975505yes they are
>>585975587this shit is hilariousI would love to see even the sweatiest guild on the planet attempt to do the kinda shit you see in these sims
hordesisters, what is she looking at?
Remember this game will never be good again, unless the trans aids faggots are driven out of the community and blizzard enitrely
>>585975901shes clearly in an alliance bar
>>585975885You are a brainlet
>>585975861My name is "the same thing I always pick" with the last name being "Forever".
>>585975804are they cool :(
>>585975194Nah, Forever ain't vanilla or classic, he's irrelevant
I'm gonna play a troll female shaman because troll females are cute and tall and shamans are cool
>>585974929>mental illnessbe sure to lock exp on a twink in your favorite level range
>>585975194hoping for his big cumback in 7 days <3333
IMAGINE SEETHING IN THIS THREADLMAO
>>585974034it was very obvious that retail was going to get the graphical upgrades, it makes no sense to have multiple clients for one game when you can have one and throw all updates in one batch
>>585975587doesnt the buff go away if you switch weapons?
>>585975587That really doesn't feel like that good of a weapon
>>585975959Mine is Belthronding Cuthallion. High elf Skelf hunter. Going to rush hurricane bow
>>585975717
>>585975953im not the one fucking up blessings, thoughever
>>585975891Anime face / 10
Ay mon! I am be wit ya mon dont you be worrin now mon!!!!
>>585975891>>585975891
>>585975901yeah fucker u ai'd my big booba horde background image to alliance and you ruined all the charm bakaand thats clearly a fucking human in the background
Forever is gonna bring hypgnomes back.
>>585974928Done
>>585975440number 3 but a bbw who cucks me
>>585975891Nose too small.
>>585976134now do it but goth
>>585976205
DWARF WARRIORS
>>585976134Need this but with hairy pits
>>585976301aye
>>585976109name a single pre-raid weapon in wow classic with 60+ dps
mages got nerfedtalent tree changedice lance 8 second cdhttps://www.wowhead.com/forever/talent-calc/mage
>>585976312Meanwhile Skyborne get aspect of the cheetah at lvl 1. Speed runners rolling Tauren are falling for the trap
>>585976270
>>585975192Me tooRetail was so cringe since Dragonflight expansion pack because from genital mutilation pandering made by their shitty lead Producer and the tranny meme dev
>>585974587140 FPS MON IN WORLD OF WARCRAFT
>>585976425truly based
>>585975529It's pretty grim for us right now but the reality is unlike warriors they can just tweak the numbers and instantly fix the problem since we have no scaling energy generation meaning we're still hitting buttons at the same rate we were before, just doing more damage.That being said, it's hilarious that naysayers point to us wanting a higher APM and go UHHH YOU JUST WANT THE GAME TO BE MORE LIKE RETAIL, when >1constant button pushing was the warrior playstyle in Era.>2people who say this have no idea what real retail button-pushing is, Combat Rogues in retail have a GCD of 0.5s
>>585976225
should I bother trying to get a group for WC if I'm an ally rogue and want the wingblade?
>>585967489why cant the adults get this FUCKING haircut ehh Blizzard? fuck you
>>585976312official running through as tauren musichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StdEPZaNPPI
>>585976394your posted link doesn't corroborate
>>585976365
>>585976592data isnt public
>>585976557Isn't Wingblade a horde-only quest reward?
>>585976557>should I bother trying to get a group for the other factions dungeon for a weapon I will replace within a weekNo
Buff Rogues, the least played class. Buff Undead, the shittiest of all racials.
>>585976672oh shit yeah you're right it's a horde quest reward I forgot
>>585976534Based
>>585976636where are you seeing this?
>>585971990no need to scroll far to see the yt comments expressing their cringe.they given it a funny, self deprecating route like south park, people wouldve loved it. going serious is the worst they could dobut most ppl are by definition average and this video is very very mid
>>585976225I kinda wanna be hypnotised by a femgoblin.
>>585976557Get a cruel barb you doofus.
uh.....
>>585976312"Welcome to Manitoba" where feral beef (American bufalo) block the traffic into the local transcanuckstan autoban
>>585976723Me in the back
>>585976636>weird basically mandatory first row talents Idk why they think this is good design
>>585976592>>585976636https://www.wowhead.com/forever/changes/talents/mage/arcane-focus?vs=70630ok for real changes here
>>585976750I guess I don't really mind spamming some deadmines for it, rogue has few weapons he can use there atleast
>>585967962Did you mean to type pvp
>>585976806>lust provoking image
>>585976806feels like more than a coincidence that the default sky elf look has a literal trans color scheme
>>5859768191st row should have some good shit otherwise it feels super gay going into a second tree
>>585975441>just get a free riding animal that are notoriously hard to acquire, because you spent two weeks in a training courseAnti-soul
What's the ERP situation looking like so far?
>>585975381nelf hits critcap early with PvE gear, effectively wasting the racial. This isn't issue with PvP gear.Also nelfs stealth buff is critical with increased stealth detection, and since you won't have to go against humans outside arenas it gives definite edge +other bonuses.
>>585976636Is there a list of all changes?
>>585976557just go to Ratchet solo and join LFG, im sure plenty of alliance will be out there, if youre on a pve server its definitely a no brainer since WC is fun!
>>585976225Hypno is for guys too pussy to rape
>2004+22>game is mechanically (under the hood) and figuratively (design-wise) retail minus>still can't have your quiver visible or transmog it?
Is my shockadin build retarded or kino
>>585976915I was considering nelf as my 1st choice since idc to play gnome and 2% crit got nerfed, so maybe I'll stick with nelf
Which dungeons should I avoid as a clothie? The new Excavating Site one sucks major ass
>>585974928I post them for me, not for you.
>>585976225I proudly hypnotise this gnomish whore with my Big Human Cuck
>>585975901
>>585975832Yes, when it passes the Cheetah speed it overrides it and you can swap to another Aspect.
>>585976914Non existent without the designated futard race
>>585976806BLUMANS?
>>585976827lollmaoso glad I moved from mage to druid
I’m thinking Olympus won
there's no way this name gets me in trouble, right?
>>585977061one of the WE quests has a bis offhand for the level range unless your a lock, also its maybe the most on the rails dungeon on wow history so do it once or twice and gtfo
Are paladins going to be overpopulated again
Blorcs > Blumans
>>585977061That raptor part is a huge cock block. Retard tanks think they can skip packs
What class are niggers rolling
>>585972126the rightoid journey>I'll pay a monthly fee to a company filled with trannies, and I will waste 5000+ precious hours of my life playing their shitty purgatory simulator that I've already played 100x over>but I've convinced myself that doing so is BASED and REDPILLLED>blizzard trannies enjoy chuddies money funding their salary, and chuddie gets 5 years older, uglier and more frustrated with the world outside that he abandoned
>>585977241lol, lmao
Will they buff Wrack by launch? It seemed more fun than spamming shadow bolt.
>>585975485https://files.catbox.moe/rt0mnc.mp3
>>585977241on horde sure, ally? ehhhh
>>585977128she cute
>>585976394>>585976592>>585976827what the fuck???? tell me i'm getting trolled
>>585977229i think it will because streamer zoomers don't know history or read books.
>>585977336niggers dont play this gamealthough on the beta there was a black skinned femgnome warlock named welfareguy indahood and he was in trade chat 16 hours a day so maybe that
>>585977295it's not that hard to skip the shit in the grass>pull boss to water>tank matriarchs on wallsbut yeah I'm sure a bunch of tards will wipe on it lol
>moved missile barrage down the tree>moved improved fire blast down the tree>8 sec ice lance>lost 4% crit from critical massits over
>>585977220>rolling pve out of fear of getting gankedthe opposite of winning
>>585977241Yes.
>>585972406Well it worked, didn't it?
>>585977362Fucking kino, is this new?
>>585977340Mine was funnier yours sucked. Also if anyone is getting uglier it's you pretending to be a woman with a man's bone structure and body hair.
>>585967779Dont let the PvE pussies drag you into Peacecraft. You think you will get stalked mercilessly and ganked 24/7 on pvp? Read through https://www.warcrafttavern.com/wow-classic/guides/avoiding-and-escaping-ganking-while-leveling/ Its a whole guide on how to defend yourself from ganking. Including item recommendations and class specific tricks.All you do is defensemaxx and carry a few cheap flasks on your chars. Do you fear getting endlessly ganked? That barely happens and the few times it does you simply log on to an alt for 10 minutes and level that. You want legacy points anyway.You bore the ganker to death (figuratively) by either resisting death through defensive flasks/potions, escaping (e.g. ress, then use lesser invisibility potion) or simply making him wait on you with a ress that will never happen.The ganking problem is overblown if you are prepared. The only reason you would want to play PvE is if you like to have characters on both faction and get your gold to them more easily.
>>585977361Wracks design just pisses me off, it's for those tard locks that start drain souling when a mob has 50%+ health, i almost have an aneurysm whenever i see a lock doing that, fucking batch it with a casted spell just before a mob dies, i know you can get a shard per tick in Forever but its still fucking retarded in a dungeon
>>585977458is this le secret insider knowledge
>>585977458at least the rape was before launch and not afternow you can change your plans
>>585977362why is it I can never hear these?
good thing i'm retardmaxxing and going fire
>>585977340oh boy he's not gonna like this truth bomb.
>>585977579>wowhead post showing changes above>IS THIS SOME LE SERCRET INSIDER KNOWLEDGEretard
>>585977467>he didn't hear about the new plan to have the mega guild across all rulesets
>>585977520two weeks ago i think>>585977583try another browser mayb
>>585977639last wowhead post is about the ap nerf to hunter shit
>>585975318Say their names
>>585977728ok you are mentally retarded and cant read the thread
how are the tanks should I go pally ally?
>link your retail character with aotc and 3.5k rio for MC invitecan't wait honestly, we need a way to filter classic backpedalers
>>585977570Shitty warlocks are the worst in dungeons, they do absolutely ZDPS. It's just too complicated for most people I think.
REMINDERif you are not playing an aggrend class you are N G M I
>won't be able to play at all during week 2 because I'll be innawoodsAny kind anons with a code?
>a group of people so obnoxious they get ignored (the equivalent of kicking out) by everyone who's not in their groupare asmongroids the jews of WoW Forever?
>>585977548>dude pwease bwo ganking isnt even that bad bro please join the server so i can rape you repeatedly on my undead rogue after i speedrun to 60 in 10 hours and then camp hillsbrad
>>585977857wy pipo le bad o algo
>>585972126who are quoting?
lowest win rate in pvp tournament just got the biggest pvp nerf of all time btw8 sec ice lance is unplayable
>>585975891Grok, reduce this by...hmm60%
>>585977548no thanks
>>585977978>muh lvl 30 tournamentasmoniggers are truly braindead specimen
>>585977857>forgot my postoh wellIt was going to be jag at the schizo posting the link on "reason you achually should come get ganked" written by ganker.
what's the legendary questline going to be, AQ or actually something new?
>>585977857Oglaf? It looks like her art.
>>5859778263LX8-H8XS-RC6TM-4HSC-QNQN9454-RW4S-SVNX9-BM5R-GVM8Try these
>>585977548stop trying to convince them to roll pvp it's already full
>>585977978you tourists are so badi hate you
>>585977548>do all this shit>get killed by a level 60 rogue the nanosecond you walk into stonetalon anyway
>>5859778265N86-RJ8L-HPJMS-D4QD-8NXCTXM9-NKRK-5W3GC-P9H6-QBQRPM6R-9RMT-BBLPR-DLHT-SVX5
>>585977658>implying a bunch of streamer simps will stick around if they cant be invited to the asmon layer and see him march around and be worshiped as a god any olympus guild on pvp is dead within the month
>>585978063All in on scythe of elune and karazhan
ADD FUCKING GOBLINS AND SATYR
>>585977658That's a cope, Asmon will still hide away on the pve realm.
>>585977978>world of warcraft>pvp tournament
>>585977978>a free button to play is unplayableyou are a drooling retard
>>585976806
>>585978079Are there any pictures of oglaf? I wanna know what she/xhe/he looks like.
>>585977845>>585978124you die once to that every few hours oh no tragic
>>585977548t. mahmood fatahi
<Battlehammer Stonebeards> will kick anyone caught using transmogrification
>>585978090>>585978162Got one! Thanks anons
>>585978268It's two people, a girl draws a guy writes.
>>585978189remove the ugly skirt.
>>585978162A real human bean.
>>585977978Ice lance is the button you press to queue up after a frostbolt when you have fingers, I think it's fine. I hate frost btw, arcane for life.
>>585968040Starshard nerf when?
What happened to Wrench? did they give up before game came out?
>>585976827Being a rogue is actual fucking bullshit
>>585978189satyrs are too sexo to happen
>>585978389Cool
Inv Asmon layer
>skyborne get 30% running speed for an hourhow is this balanced??????
>>585978465buffs later tomorrow you'll seeHVGE BVFFS
>>585978465>rogues don't get a single change>lost 2% hit and 25% offhand damage from classictop dps btw
>>585978406I refunded my special beta edition and they still sent me the codes. So its on Blizzard.
Guys nobody posted mage nerfs to suberddit yet, its free karma for you to do so
>>585978495NEED to see her in a fully loaded and leaking diaper
>>585978276>every few hourslmaoone roguenigger is all it takes to make a zone cancer and every pvpchimp doesn't have an epic honorabur duel. pvpchimps wait until you're half health or your back is turned and then dive. you, as a player, are literally just encouraged to do the same. there is no reward or reason to fight fair. world pvp is absolute niggershit and you aren't missing anything by just going pve and doing BGs.the only, and i mean the ONLY benefit to a pvp server is that resource farming bots get killed. thats it. world bosses are still cancer, except now instead of 'whos there first' its 'who wins the pvp orgy', raid entrances are camped, and you have to deal with the literally infamous rogues griefing lowby zones, where you either have to shard or wait for the cops to show up and make him piss off for 20 minutes before he comes back and does it again.pvp is shit.
>>585976827wasnt there some tweet that someone said theyll remove all the cata abilities or wrath onesam i going insane
>>585978465feral nelfs are better rogues anyways. Blizz is obsessed trying to turn rogues into DoT class, and ferals are way better at that already.
>>585978574Buddy rogues lost a lot more than that. Look at the damage modifier talents from opportunity and lethality
>>585978174>>585978196He doesn't plan on actively playing on pvp but he will occasionally log in to hold court and do transmog comps and duel tournaments and stuff. The tryhards are going to go pvp to prove their worth and gain his favor. Also there is already an addon ready to go that merges all guild chats across rulesets into one (with mod controls and multiple channels to prevent spam).
>>585978389I was going to make a comment on her tattoos and haircut, but then it dawned on me>she draws fucking OGLAF, what did you think she was going to look like?
>>585968545that's absolute dogshit scalingthe default is 28.6% per second and then even more with cast speed reduction talentit has high basedmg and low manacost. it's mostly good for healers to do damage.
>>585978585What's the exchange rate for reddit karma to (You)s?
>>585978638What did they remove?
>>585978626try having friends to play with lmao
>>585978398There's a penis underneath though
>>585978756not the front flap, the back skirt. I wanna see her undies.
>>585978730That's good. Giving one race an exclusive extra good dps spell would be retarded. This way it's still useful in pvp since it's a different school and you can get kicked with impunity, or use it when kicked. And it's useful for healers to dps with. That's exactly how it should be.
Which class is the most OP atm
>>585978626*logs on alt for 10 minutes* sort loot on bank alt or level a bit.rogue defeated, enjoy waiting for me to come back.for resource gathering, just make your gatherer a prot paladin, its like gathering on pve.
>>585978909Warlock
>>585978752>call a friend to defend you against the lowbie ganker>ganker can just ambush and sprint away anyway>now the ganker is wasting 2x the manhours of other humansI have been that ganker, you can't actually beat them if they're autistic enough.
>>585978959retard
>>585978854Undies?
should I go rogue or kitty bros...being able to tank would be insanely useful for dungeons but there's nothing quite like griefing people as a rogue
>>585978909warlock are the GODS of the level 30 duel tourneyshockadins are the GODS of the vibecoded sim meta
>>585978949The second you log out the griefer wins, unironically
NO WAY these mage nerfs are realno no no no nopenot real
>>585978909Druid, it's Aggrend's class.
>>585978975why would I need to call them when they are right there with me?
>>585978975you bore them so they move on, if you were a ganker you would know this. but looks like you are projecting how you are on others.
I think making such drastic changes a week before launch seems ill-advised, especially when the classic playerbase is use to years of #nochanges and likely will not be receptive to massive balance swings. Notice how upset they get about <1% racial swings.
Best professions for Druid?
>>585978909Druids because of strong toolkit that outperforms certain dedicated classes at their own game while still leaving all the other options open. Also some real bz like >>585968040
>>585978584Yeah? Mine were expired after refunding. Weird that, I'm immensely grateful all the same.
>>585978975>only time someone camped me in the beta,>/3 someone is camping me here <map location ping> >5 people show up and kill him until he fucks offit's that easy
>>585979109skinning lw, nothing even comes close
>>585978949>>585978752The existence of people like Angwe proves PvP is just asking to have a bad time.
mage deserved the nerfs
>>585978975Rogue
>>585979079Yeah they're totally going to be bored with a sharded megaserver that constantly refreshes the zones with new victims. I look forward to the tears on the forums
>>585979109skin + herb like any classat lvl 60, wait and see when the game comes out
>>585979065is it still big on shifting all the time or is it dumbed down to staying in whatever your spec is
>>585979148>Also some real bz like >>585968040thats nelf priest lol
>>585979169its fine to be a pussy dude, just dont spazz out about it
>>585979040ok he wins, i barely lose time and just carry on improving my account. I will gladly hand over the win for that trade. If someone wants to sit there at level 60 one shotting lowbies, enjoy. whats with this board being pve pussies anyway, are you guys reddit or something?
>>585978949He was saying that bots getting killed on PvP servers is a good thing, not that he has trouble with it.
wash yer back
>>585979101They should make even more drastic changes at launch so players go in blind.
>>585979040ok so what's the winning move?there is one but I wanna hear you say it
Which pairs best with goblin female for sex?>orcs>trolls>tauren>humans>gnomes>elves
>>585979208goes both ways, by logging to an alt for a few min and logging back you will be placed on another shard. You think every shard will have a ganker in the same area? unlikely.
whats the problem? just pop cold snap for double ice lance
>>585978162ni hao ma者到共创者,他们也是图书thank you keys
millennialsisters ...are we finally back?
>You need combo points for SnD>You need combo points for rupture>You need combo points for death mark>You need combo points for expose armor if you're on cuck duty>You only ever have enough points for SnD and occasionally one other finisher if you're luckyThis is the most dogshit fuckass designed class of all time fuck blizzard but especially fuck aggrend
>>585979395Undead
>>585979336>biby drops a fucking TRVKEwow is so back
>>585979249Right you are, my mistake. I just saw something about stars and assigned it to druids.
>>585976827what website is this on
Soulsborne games>DUDE JUST TURN ON INVASIONS AND LET ME FUCKING GRIEF YOUWorld of Warcraft>DUDE JUST JOIN PVP AND LET ME FUCKING GRIEF YOU The aggressor always has the advantage while you're going to be the aggressor sometimes, you're also going to be the defender in others. What this boils down to is sometimes having 75 - 25 odds, your favor, and sometimes having 25 - 75 odds, your favor.This shit is exactly the logic that keeps games like League of Legends and DotA active despite the fact that they're fucking god awful games, objectively. These tards are trying to convince you to chase the dragon like its a hit of heroin. Do not fall for it.
>>585979465was that added in the last patch or is it just some old sod shit?
>>585979465Only way I see it working is if they give us HAT
>>585979465Yet when they let rogues get full combo points every other global THIS happens
a bit more than six days bros...
>>585979560It's the new sub capstone
magesisters he is literally getting in touch with his blizzard contacts as we speak. Do not worry.
>>585979395Tauren
>>585979462this AMV is up to almost 1 million views btw
>>585979538God I fucking hate typing The aggressor always has the advantage, and while you're going to be the aggressor sometimes, you're also going to be the defender in others. What this boils down to is sometimes having 75 - 25 odds, your favor, and sometimes having 25 - 75 odds, their favor.
are any of these cool bros.... >>585975804
>>585979465rogue really needs combat potency and HATassa somehow feels ok when I was trying it on sim, venom just sucks ass
>>585979465it's the PoE2 gameplay, generating and spending
>>585979603i can't wait, the anti PvP server schizo is going INSANE today
>>585979395Humies
>>585976827Hey, that's pretty good.
How important are Resto Shamans in Raids, how good are they in dungeons, and how does their gameplay feel like? Shamans seem cool.
>Rogue is just a warrior with less weapon and armor choices>Mage is just a warlock with less toys>All healing specs play the sameGuys...I think vanilla design might have been a little flawed
What site are people using to see the patch changes? FUCK I miss when wowhead would actually update whenever something new drops. You don't know what you had until it's gone.
Simpsons Episodes to pass the time til release?
>>585979468Male undead is never used in smut
>>585979806>expansions hit>its still all the same but now you got more buttons to presswowee
>>585979806Mage has more toys than warlock, blink was the basis for an entire genre of video games and playing a class without blink feels gay and lame.
>>585979828its literaly posted in this thread
i got such a basic human name for my basic bitch human hunter. I can't wait. Melee weave survival looks so fun for pve, and survival pvp will be great too. Gnome Rogue was pretty fun on the beta, and lock felt great, but hunter is where my heart is.
>>585979910>more buttonssounds based
>>585979838Season 4-10
>>585979828https://www.wowhead.com/forever/changes
aggrend is in hiding from all the rape threats he got after the name reservation fiasco
>>585979697Venom sucks because no one, and I mean NO ONE, likes maintenance buffs. They are anti-fun, the only reason we put up with S&D is because it massively improves autoattack dps. But asking us to use a talent point in a second maintence buff that isn't even good is beyond ridiculous.
>>585979593That has more to do with giving every melee a kick and a stun, adding demon hunters and monks that overlap with rogue's design space while also being able to tank or heal if they want, and then giving rogues absolutely nothing interesting in return.
>>585979751Literally most important class to have in raids. Gameplay sucks dick tho each spec spams one button.
is the intended leveling experience to be Kalimdor for Horde and EK for Alliance? like, are you putting yourself at a disadvantage by hopping to the other continent? they all have zones that go from 1 to 60 srry for the dumb question but ive never played classic before so leveling didnt matter much to me before this
>>585979961I had a meme hunter in a group. I honestly thought he was a rogue for half the run. Lmao
>>585979691they are not . only roleplay names are - 'cool'
>>585980021I only want the NEW changes that just dropped. Not a big stinky pile of shit we've known for over a month.
>>585979691cool names bro
i'm giving my human a thalassian name and saying she was raised by high elves
>>585980083mostly yeah, but once you reach 20+ any contested zone works. but on pvp its wise to stay where you will likely encounter more of your own faction.Leveling guides take you to both continents though for efficiency.
>>585979838There's a cytube that is just nothing but classic era simpsons episodes
Warrior or Warlock? Can't decide to either tank or farm shards for eternity, never really played classic
>>585979691dook names bro sorry
>>585980083No, for exemple night elves start on kalimdor and undeads start on eastern kingdom, there is no intended leveling experience. But it's true that Kalimdor is more horde oriented and EK more alliance oriented
>>585980246this is the wow equivalent of naming your white child musashi.
>>585980352>start on kalimdorermmmm they start on teldrassil
>>585980334warrior if you wanna tank but if you wanna dps? L M F A O - party suckin' bro it's DOOK certified sorry
>>585980334get the journey bonus that removes class ability costs and never farm a singe chard ever again.
>>585980083Yup, always been like that, you can't actually (within reason) level fully in Kalimdor as Alliance or fully in Eastern Kingdoms as Horde. You can totally stay exclusively in one or the other for either, but I anticipate you'd have to grind a shit ton and you'd miss on all the new dungeons.
>>585976225Engaging TC-130 Mental Dislocator!
>>585980083Sorta. Alliance have most their low level zones in EK and Horde in Kalimdor. But once you get past lvl 20 you end up hopping around the continents. Alliance have a much tougher time in Kalimdor because Darnassus is in bumfuck nowhere.
>>585980246
>8s ice lanceHAHAHAHAHA MAGES UNPLAYABLE NOW
>>585979751Their utility is top notch and people will want you in raids. Raid healing is going to be simple. Cast riptide on assigned tank and spam chain heal, upkeep watershield. For dungeons they don't actually have many healing buttons to use, unlike druid or priest, so the healing will feel stale but you got your totems and earth shock to keep you busy.
>>585980465fury is going to be fine, it's just arms that is terrible
>>585980212its literally where people are posting the screenshots from you gorilla nigger. to see mage talent changes click on mage talents and there is a literal dropdown menu to compare to builds with a build ID and date
Dwarf shaman or undead warlock and is there a major benefit going rpg over a normal ruleset?
>>585980581The pattern continues
>>585980246Hyup, that there is a gen-u-ine frog post
>>585980503I can't remember the last time I ever saw that card in play, but then I mostly play battlegrounds
>>585980246don't forget his village was burned down and family killed by orcs, has a scar across his eye(s), and wears a runic necklace that says "Hero" in some ancient tonguebut then that's 90% of RP realm OC donut steel lore
>>585980212https://foreverchanges.pro/patch-notes
>>585980083sort ofoptimal alliance leveling actually involved doing the reverse wetlands run and going to darkshore, might not be the case in forever
What race and class do I go if I hate niggers and trannies
>>585980635yes you get +10% damage as a dwarf shaman if you go RP
>>585980083for the most part, but also northern EK zones are all pretty accessible from Undercity while Alliance travel Kalimdor become spretty shit beyond level 20. You'll probably want to swap around just for better quest density of stuff in your level range, and to like Dustwallow and Stranglethorn via boats
>>585980629It's not you double nigger. Wowhead doesn't even have the ice lance change yet.
>>585980762Night Elf Priest (female)
>>585980762human warrior
>>585980635>is there a major benefit going rpg over a normal ruleset?its the only way to escape most of the retarded names. vibes are better if you like fantasy in your fantasy game.
>>585980590arms is gonna pvmp hard with cleaving tho
>>585980762Male Gnome Mage
>>585980818you are a 80 iq retard that cant navitage a website that shows you the changesTOTAL DUMBO
>>585980825This is probably the most tranny nigger class combo of them all
I'll be a human paladin kthx
>>585980762>if you are whitedwarf whatever>if you are brownhuman ret paladin
>>585980818this is why horde players are mocked
>>585980689My orc is the orc that burned down every village in each backstory where orcs burned down a village.
>>585980584>>585980079How does totem management work in Forever? I've heard they changed it but I've never played a Shaman in classic so I don't know how they work
>>585980762Just anything on the Alliance in general
>>585980268>>585980352>>585980489>>585980521>>585980756>>585980756tyty anonsi cant pick a favorite continent lol, but it does feel like Kalimdor is a bit undercooked compared to EK
>>585980818https://www.wowhead.com/forever/changes/spellbook/mage/ice-lanceit's ok to be retarded but please don't be so aggressive about it anon
>>585980935even with the changes, paladin feels like a dork loser. you dont have charge so you just autowalk after your enemies in pvp like an autist. embarrassing class
>>585980246My high elf (real) will call you a mistake
>>585972126meds
I wonder why they are trickling these updates out instead of pooling them all and doing one update on launch day
>>585981024yes thats cause most of the warcraft rts lore was on EK and Kalimdor only got introduced in warcraft 3 and only parts of the continent were known then. So wow added al ot of new stuff to it that wasnt previously in the lore.
>>585980635normal: get to group up with Stapledmy Fourskeen for an elite quest and he calls you slursRP: get to group up with Bartholomew Goldfist for an elite quest and he calls you slurs
>>585980995
>>585981034
>>585977340yowzers
Give me ONE (1) good reason why I shouldn't be able to play both factions on a PvP megaserver with 10,000 layers.
>>585980225ty :D>>585980343whats a dook
>>585981029That page literally does not say anything about having an 8s cooldown. This is just the change when they nerfed the damage earlier in beta.
>>585981034i'm gonna do PvE
>>585981316to maintain population balance
>>585981150engagement farming. get those content creator gears running, keep them churning out shit for people to see every day. I kinda hate this timeline. for me the internet was lost when streamers started calling themselves influencers publicly
>>585977467>>585978174
>>585981034paladin is gonna be great to not die to gankers in open world. very defensive, thats its niche.
What cute thing did you do to pass the time today?I downloaded a voice changer that I think is VERY convincing
>the name beta cuck is availableis this a trap...
>>585980581As unplayable as they said AoE grinding was going to be. Ice Lance was a great pulling tool but so long as Ice Block and Blink still work, people will still find a way.
>>585981197sod thing
>>585980996In terms of new stuff, you can summon a preset list of 4 totems one of each (you can choose 2 sets). You have a button to summon them all on a long cast time (think its 3 seconds but might be buffed to 2 or 2.5 now). Some totems are raid wide and others are party wide. You can also resummon all your totems elsewhere instead of re-placing them all, and remove all totems with some refund to your mana. Or you can just put a totem one by one. Some buffs will linger even whilst out of range but some buffs require you to be in the range of the totem.
>>585981413>frost blast deletedSo 100% confirmed it was only added for the crybaby mages in the lvl 30 tournament lmao
>>585981496SoD was a prequel to Forever, all of SoD's lore is canon in Forever.
I was tossed between Mage and another but these nerfs helped me decide to ditch Mage (cucked class)
how is it possible no one took beta cuckis it gonna say restricted if i press yes
>Forever is going to change the paradigm holy fuck bros
Male human warrior or female night elf warrior on a PvP server?
since everyone and their mom is gonna pick mining/skinning is fishing and herbalism gonna be good for early money making?
>>585981573doesn't matter. sod shit is in the database and it doesn't mean anything.
I wasn't gonna play mage for once but seeing everyone getting psyoped out of it makes it all the more tempting.
They should add Spellfrost Bolt and Balefire Bolt to this as level 60 tomes you get from Scholomance and Dire Maul.
>>585981698if you know you know, mage is a really valuable asset to have on your account.
>>585981530Are totems consumables? Do I lose them every time I dismiss them or re-allocate them in the middle of a dungeon?
>>585981641>How is it possible nobody took a name nobody would actually want to use, and if they did would get changed
At this point they need to just remove racials and make all gear white with no stats other than damage and armor
is chastise useable in shadow form?
Ice Lance having a cooldown just feels.... wrong. If they didn't like Mages spamming no-fingers lance they could have just lowered the base damage and increased the frozen damage multiplier.
>>585981880It's just Fire Blast: Frost Edition.
thoughts on the names>maga pawg>ethanklein fan >reddit gold
>>585981856Racials are way more powerful than vanilla. They are really more than enough, dumb tourist.
any news on the Paladin pre-launch changes??
>>585981837They are a permanent item in your inventory. Yes, they take space. You go on quest chains to acquire new element totems, earth(lvl4), fire(10), water(20) then air(30). You can summon and unsummon or relocate them as many times as you like but it will cost you mana.
>>585981856Also there should only be one class and all it can do is auto attack.
no really, why has mage been reworked two (2) times in like 4 days when most classes have gotten nothing
I'm rolling undead paladin and I don't care if it's overpopulated because I'm better than most of these niggers
>>585982157I thought the whole system was way more obnoxious. I can work with that. Thanks for clarifying anon. I'm planning to pick up Resto shaman as my Ally character since they seem to be on high demand and Chain Heal is a fun button to press
>>585981880Forever keeps doing this stupid shit where they add spells that have worked functionally the same for 20 years but then changing them for no real reason.>ice lance? has a cooldown now>lava burst? doesn't auto crit anymore>bloodthirst? doesn't heal you
>>585982267They only have one person working on class design and he only cares about mages
where are you people reading this supposed changes? I see nothing on wowhead or the forums.
>>585982514its almost like theres multiple direct link to datamine changesits almost like just beacuse some ai writer hasnt made a post on news doesnt mean it doesnt existthe talent calc already moved the talents in the mage tree, just not upated tooltips from datamine yet
>>585981657Forever is gonna literally change everything, its the single greatest moment in human history.
>>585982585its npc shit. >oh, THIS MANY people watch the videos and comment? gotta be good, here I go
>>585981836can u spoil me anon? nta but im curious, im new to classic classes
dunno if I go skinning LW on rogue or do I go alchemy herb
>no warlock nerfsthis speaks volumes
I was just able to make chars on all four PvP sides (NA) - if anyone was getting filtered before.
>>585982718he’s coping. there isn’t a more cucked class than mage in forever>aoe farming removed>dungeon farm removed>ice lance giga nerfedpick an aggrend class instead (paladin, druid)
>>585980762Orc Warrior
>>585981668The sad part about that is youre gimping yourself by not picking gnome. But from what you listed I'd pick night elf.
>>585982842yet
>>585982514https://www.wowhead.com/forever/changes/talents/mage/incineration?vs=70630>compare latest build with oct 27>click class>click Updated tab
>>585982718ok listen, this is some ancient promised knowledge, look up mage portalsall you need to know. If you got a mage on horde you are set for life, cause on horde its lesser played.
>>585968096Why do Horde players jerk off to getting cucked?
>>585982842why would they nerf warlock?
>>585982514I suppose we're gonna get patch notes later today, they're just slowly adding these rn
>>585982998please dont respond to the asmoniggers
nelf priest gonna be kino
Some druid should take the name "Convicted Feline"
GYAT DAYUM(im ok with this)
>>585968360if you want a dogshit lordaeron tabard that doesn't look lordaeron-esque at all
>>585982473>bloodthirst? doesn't heal youit's because they added gore drinker which is better but it requires 7 (SEVEN!!!) talent pointsit's so lame. you can't take it for a pve dps build. yeah you can have a dual spec grind/farm spec but then you can't have a dual spec pvp/tank spec.
why didn't they give Paladin Avenger's Shield?
>>585952246>>585952246get in fags
>>585983057based
>Arcane mageAll I see are buffs
>>585982128should i change these
>>585982702and we'll all be here for it, together
>>585970751the whole zone is just cata shit, porting out at the end feels like waking from a fever dream
>skyborne wuz da real druids all along!you guys ready for this flavor of storytelling?
What are the actual mandatory good mods to have. I'm a healer btw. I'm also going to be diving deep into my professions.
>>585984247For healing, theres no mods you need but a bunch of options to fiddle with in the menusSee https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buvLHLZzGaA
>>585984634I like this guy, I started using horizontal raid ui cause he sold that for me
>>585981162>>585980775>>585980848Cheers lads, slurs with Bart while we collect bear arses it is then.
>>585976426>Retail>cringe since Dragonflight
>>585979465Isn't this bad?You spend your combo points and energy to use this and it expects you to do damage within 4.5 seconds (3 globals) so 3 skills to increase those three skill's damage by 60%?with what energy and combo points? Premed? Vanish? Ambush?60% of an ambush crit is not even close to just using eviscerate
