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>>586077337a SLUT
The Falken is cool and I'm tired of pretending it's not.Shame the TLS is so SHIT in 7
>>586077337Yes
Best plen
>>586077515>yfw Belka had a war with Osea in 1903 >Belka was the first to deploy planes in war >This is what they came at the Osean ground troops with.
>>586077550Do you also need me to find a source for why recon is considered a hostile act?
>>586077515[Angry Brazilian noises]
>campaign was fun, let's try online!>coop assault was fun, it's like playing infinity!>let's try warfare>oh boy i'm flying my 250 cost f-4 with all of one part added>getting shit on by some su-57 with qaams no matter where i spawnis the point of co op warfare just to sufferhow do i even rank up fast
>>586077515idea: PA includes a Wright Flyer for use only in Free Flight
Oh god this is gonna be our equivalent of the egg carton isn't it
>>586077782Did you miss “in the power of an adverse Party”?
>>586077859Learn to have fun being a distractionOr play Assault until you get a tier 2 plane and level it up a little
>>586077881the egg carton?you mean the meme about aging women's infertility?
>>586077515pretty wild that aviation went from this thing managing a whopping 10 kph to racing seaplanes going 700 kph within like 30 years
>>586077930So, are you saying that a soldier is not hors de combat until they're captured? Do you understand that would make them a valid target?Obviously you're being stupid here because that list is an OR list, not an AND list.
>>586078205>hors de combatwhat the fuck is this shit, I don't speak Erusean
>>586078338Out of action. Incapable of fighting back.
>>586078051i just don't know why he was going for me, with a 250 cost plane i should be worth less than the random ai fishbeds flying aroundunless the point is to be a dick
>>586078205They’re not hors de combat, but it’s explicitly stated in article 42 that you may not attack them without demanding their surrender.
The smoke trail effects are very pretty.
Stop calling Kate an empty egg carton.
Took the plunge and finally tired out online today. you buddies weren't joking those menus are shit no worse they are turbo shit. Way to many getting kicked back to the lobby times.Overall it just feels like playing the game on easy mode no challenge even in a F-4 starter its just easy. Only did the PvE don't care much for the PvP. Don't really hate it it just feels kind of meh.>3 hrs of playing....Hour and half of play hour and half of trying to get a room >only one single scramble >UghhLeast it got my F-14A up 5 levels in that matchThose skins that are in the store and require Ace coins I can't get lucky and get them from the gacha can I? Its store only with Ace coins?
>>586078615Well, obviously she’s not empty. She’s full. They’re just misshapen from all the G’s.
>>586078471No, you have to give them a CLEAR OPPORTUNITY TO SURRENDER. Meaning you can't just blast their head off as soon as their feet touch the ground. If they go around sneaking through your territory and run into your guards they obviously have a clear opportunity to surrender to those guards instead of trying to sneak around and escape. It's not a crime to shoot an enemy soldier sneaking around in your territory, even if they were an ejected pilot at one point.
>>586078615
>>586078730>Way to many getting kicked back to the lobby times.this game's multiplayer is coded by a drunk gerbili think you get some ace coins from the free battlepass but it's waaaay down the line and you get like $1 worth
>>586078450A leveled up F-4 is pretty solid. You'll still be outclassed by the high-end planes but you can at least put up a fight.Unfortunately there's no way to know if an enemy has a level 1 F-4 or a level 20 F-4, and keeping the enemy pilots dead is the best way to keep their score down.He was definitely a faggot for camping you the entire match though.>>586078730Yeah those ace coin skins are store only. You can see all of the gacha drops and rates in the gacha menu
Not exactly spoiled for choice with the attacker only and EW only medals huh
>>586078730you can get pretty much everything with the gacha, i have the premium store emblems and a FA36 skin from just luck
Not going to pretend Kate or Nagase is sexier than Tasha, sorry
>>586079282
>>586078765Maybe getting eggs used to high g force will create stronger children
>>586077550>>586077782God fuck off I'm tired of this shit, we're not in a war crimes trial traying to rules lawyer a conviction
>>586079282I find Kate far more sexy, but I'm also 30 and appreciate her mature charm.
>>586079435What if Singularities are the result of high g exposure in utero?I mean, just look at Tasha. Her mother shot down Tewi, crashed, got knocked up by her physical trainer, and immediately Tasha was a gifted pilot.
>>586079253Attacker has decent variety outside of the four carrier missions. EW gets really lame really fast because they have no good A2G weapons, especially when you try to combine that run woth something else.
What am I missing up to NG++ and still dont have the Shadow Su-57 skin
Considering a good chunk of PA is old and about to retire, they should make the next game hero plane be the F-15 again, but this time an EX.
>>586077859>coop assault was funThat's a matter of interpretation I'd say
>>586073915I used it specifically because of that. Also a huge STOL/MTD fan.2D thrust vectoring looks so much cooler than nozzles.
>>586079684>Attacker has decent variety outside of the four carrier missionsEh, I wouldn't call the Su-34 and F-15E much variety. There's not much reason to use any other attacker, even in campaign. What the fuck do people even use for M15 on an attacker run anyway?
>>586079714you probably didn't grab shadow 24 in the first comona map. you kill him and a different shadow shows up at the end you couldn't otherwise find.
>>586075064The F-22 is now as old as the Harrier II was in Ace Combat 04.
I am starting to think that crashing and respawning to line up with the barrel after blowing up the backup cooling units is a good strategy for Chandelier
>>586079870You should be able to drop a UGBL on a Ladon and watch its wings snap off from the pressure.
>>586080132Japanese ass post.
>>586077859>how do I rank up fastlol, lmaopilot xp is capped at 100 per matchaircraft xp is all you can speed up, but then you get gated by blueprints and shit
>>586080132That's how I still get MVP as an F-4E even with all the frogs now.
>>586078730The PvE mode has a much lower average player skill than PvP. And the maps can easily be cleared by 4 players yet you get 8 of them. So it's just way too easy and you finish 2-3 minutes and get MVP every time.Only reason to play it is for the daily challenges.
Post plane bellies
>>586080395
>>586080690
>>586079870The early attackers are fun enough early on, although the F-2 is leagues above the Su-25 and A-10. F-15 leans slightly more towards air superiority missions because it carries a little more HCAAs, meanwhile UGBLs are easier to use for deleting ground targets.>M15HCAAs deal with the Ladons just fine. It's really not a hard mission, Ace Combat just hasn't had a DPS check boss before.
>>586072968Nah, it's real. Youtube has long muted whatever song was playing on the OG video though.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTwHn5pxWlA
this shit is too funny>>586080395>clean>>586080690>clean>>586080773>what the fuck>>586080895>clean>>586080947>clean>>586081025>cleanWhy is the F-4 such a nasty bitch?
>>586080947Why do they paint a cockpit on the bottom
>>586081406So you don't know which way it's gonna pull
>>586004652is this duckstation or some vibe recomp?>>586080395
>>586081405
>>586079010> drunk gerbilThat would explain a lotI preorderd the game I have the premium pass got a few coins form it already>>586079076>>586079263UhhhSounds like its following gacha game rules then>>586080345The PvE modes is what got me thinking I want to play online this time. PvP is ok but I get tired of it faster than PvE. You could fix PvE by making it a 4 player game instead of 8 which does work great for PvP.
>>586081579I think that retard is trying to run it on PCSX2, judging by the icon on the error message.
>>586081710PvE is always fun, PvP(vE) is only fun in an end game plane that's at least lv.10, with a couple exceptions for LAAMboats.
Crazy how Erich Hartmann got an AC protagonist level of kills but in real life, and lived on anyway
>>586080395>>586080395
>>586082018He didn't. Complete propaganda fiction.
>>586079343kek
>>586081405Don’t kink shame. She deserves to be freaky in her old age
>>586082278I just wanna know what the blue tubes next to the intakes are.
>>586082159The allies confirmed almost all of his kills. What do you mean?
What's up with these jobbers
>>586082757You mean "the Allies" that helped cover up Nazi war crimes, refused to prosecute Wehrmacht and Luftwaffe war criminals, and placed Nazi scientists in positions of power within their own governments? Those "Allies"?
>>586082847It was built wrong on purpose, as a joke.
>>586082018>got an AC protagonist level of killswith a big asterisk called "non-fighter planes in the eastern front"
>>586082921Wasn't he tried for war crimes by the Red Army?
Is there any HD texture pack for Zero PC yet?
>yes this guy totally shot down a morbillion planes>and this russian sniper lady personally killed 5 gorillion nazis>and this finnish sniper did too
>>586082921>actually making up conspiracies in his head that the allies would want to pad a luftwaffe's kills against allies and make him the best ace of the entire war who was never shot down and made it through the war unscathedAnon, get a grip.
>>586083106Yup. Strafed hospitals.
>>586083129Just because you're a sad sack loser that'd get killed by a falling brick before even making it to combat doesn't mean everyone else sucks as much ass as you do.
>>586083246How much points for that
>>586082072If they add WWII planes this is the formation I'll take on a few missions.
>>586081986>play pvpve>2 adfxs on team so decide to go su34 and get score by bombing & evading>they spend the whole game getting stomped and are the bottom two scores of the matchi don't like moba behavior like complaining about teams or feeding but i was basically playing solo in a su34 while my team couldn't even keep the other team distracted, that mode is rough for anyone not in a fighter
>>586083246>Hartmann was charged with war crimes, specifically the "deliberate shooting of 780 Soviet civilians" in the village of Briansk, attacking a bread factory on 23 May 1943, and destroying 345 "expensive" Soviet aircraft>Destroying enemy aircraft is a war crimelmao.
who was in the yellow ch-47 and ac-130 i killed over hoffnung?
>>586083762Dude I don't know what it is about thr Morgan but it attracts the dumbest fucking people, it's like they see superplane in the description and take it as literal. I've seen them with three digit scores. As a Su-57 player I can say I've been downed by F-16s more than I have Morgans. It's wild.
>>586083762Why didn't they just make a full PvE mode?
>>586084186enemy combatants, don't worry about it
>Last game of PvE I played>We get ahead by 30K pts >guy on other team DC'd right at start>MVP on our team was a Morgan named Oguri Cap>Found this extra funny as I'm watching Cinderella Grey right now.Sometimes its funny how things line up like this so good. Horse girls and planes overlap pretty good.
>>586083106>Wasn't he tried for war crimes by the Red Army?oh, well, good thing the Soviets never made up charges for a sham trialwe can take their word on this
>>586084191it's annoying because very rarely you do get a 'hey buddy' who's on m&k with simple controls that's going to try pointing and clicking on your whole team, so you can't just write them all off as harmless
>>586084239You get better rewards for losing Assault with an S rank than for winning with an A rankIn practice, Assault IS the pve mode
>>586084191>As a Su-57 playercuh-ringe
>>586080395Feniks belly
>>586084191>As a Su-57 playerWhy would anyone admit to this?
>>586084446Wait, so was his killcount faked because the Allies wanted to go easy on the Nazis or were his crimes faked because the Soviets wanted to go hard on the Nazis? Or is it both?
I love Moon-11's intro in mission 26 so much. The haunting yet beautiful solo singing while she's pulling high Gs in her superplane, and then the shot with the Moon in the background. And then that fucking bitch kills our goddamn wingman I think she has my favorite build up of an antagonist ace in the series.
>>586084581Yeah, thankfully after a pass or two you can get a good sense of whether they're the 95% shitters or 5% laserbeam people >>586084640I could only afford one endgame plane, and I picked the prettiest one to me, personally. If it had the worst stats of the three I still would've picked it.I fly nothing but the F-4E in PvE.
>>586084640>>586084817What's a non-cringe fighter I can fly?F-16 or F-15C? Something else?
>>586084998It's just retard boomers seething about non-usa planes. Ignore.
>>586084407It feels weird seeing a number of the Ace Combat accounts/channels I follow also going wild over the horses. I didn't realise those strains of autism had so much overlap. What's weird to me is that I don't think the ponyfags overlap much with umafags, that would've made too much sense.
>>586084998Mig-29 is the most honorable fighter, but F16 and F15 are definitely less cringe.
>>586080395 .
Its amazing how well they got the supply sergeant character down. They can get you anything you want for a price.>>586084997I'm starting to see the appeal of F-4 in PvE myself
>>586084980All the SKY STARTS SINGING IN LATIN memes really teed up the Ace Combat playerbase for SKY STARTS SINGING IN WOMAN. Shame Tewy's not that cool of a fight, but at least she's better than Mihaly.
>>586085309Nothing else gives you as much of a smug sense of satisfaction as beating TLS Morgans in points with a vietnam era rustbucket.
>>586085106Might help that the horsegirl anime is a extremely solid sports anime the idol part is basically an afterthought in it.
>Had no sorties over the last 3 days. >Tonight I get 3 out of six TOTAL matches played
>>586085431The Agnus Dei at the start of Megalith has to be the best.>final boss>your theme plays over theirs firstUnfathomably sick.
>Chopinburg map shows up>Music starts out with Megalith before fading into Fire Young ManNow that is how get pure sound kino and your blood pumping.
God, I wish there was a in-game chat option for “SHOOT THE FUCKING ENEMY YOU TRIPLE SOATS”
just picture one of your missiles slamming into her plane and sending shrapnel tearing straight through that stupid face
>>586086604If you use up on D-pad then down on D-pad it works a lot better than either alone. I don't know why. The people that come to help will probably still eat a LAAM on the way though. Solo queueing is a constant rotation of nightmares.
>>586086642Why does she look like pregnant anne frank?
Annihilation missions in zero are such a chore
>>586086986uhhhhhhh maybe because she just had an affair with Ethan Klein
>>586085192>Mig-29A>No QAAM>No SASM>No LAAM>Only HCAA and HPAA, the two worst A2A missles>Not even a standard missle booster abilityWhat was PA thinking?
>>586087514see>>586082973
Starting to see more Typhoos in place of the MiG-31s as the new LAAMslinger meta...
how long until you all get bored of multiplayer and stop playing it and the general can be cool again?
>>586087718Because the Typhoon is just better. Don't fall for the QAAM meme.
>>586087832You mean how long until the general is so dead it requires multiple people watching over it and bumping it with plane pics? I'd say about 3 more months.
So if the flights on the endurance are themed after royal cards, and we've already got Joker and Queen, where's King flight? Did we cuck the king and just go straight to the queen?
>>586088157How about you finish the game before asking such a stupid question?
>>586088157Did you play the game?
>>586087836It'd definitely way better at endgame, but QAAMs and SASMs are phenomenal if you get into a furball.
Did they add a new mid-mission to Shilage Castle?I don’t recall ever having to shoot down a bunch of B-52’s before.
>>586082018Doesn't matter much when like 4/5 of them were Il-2s that didn't bother with evasive maneuvers (because they can't lmao).
>>586088348Why are the Fench like this?
>>586087970Why would it need bumping? Let it stay dead until something happens that's news worthy.Ace combat fans will always be around, and will always know there's other ace combat fans on 4chan. I wouldn't have known about this series if I wasn't on /v/ in the 2000s.So don't bother. Go play some other game until something comes up that's worth discussing. It's a bulletin board, not having an active thread isn't an admission of defeat. It just means PA is cooking and we're off doing/playing/talking about something else. We're all still here. We don't need to be in the kitchen.
>>586088730You can fuck off then.
>>586088281>>586088264I'm drunk and havent played since i finished it two weeks ago
>>586088902The fuck does that mean?AC8 just came out a few weeks ago, yeah we're gonna be here talking about it.
should i buy the passi want to support more ace combat even though i don't think i want anything in the pass
Why is it snowing inside?
>>586088730Idk man, I guess if you think not having a thread at all is "cool" and are eagerly waiting for multi to die so you can go back to not having a thread(or having a thread that needs regular bumps) then more power to you.
>>586089159it's radiation anon
>>586089159Belkans.
>>586089151The Morgan is in the pass and it's by far the best plane for online.Also you get like 60 extra golden goy tickets which you'll need to actually upgrade your planes.
>>586089159Open hangar on both sides, drafty as fuck.
>>586089341If Morgan best plane, why Morgan die so much?
>>586089524because the peoplesare retarded
>>586089524Because most Morgans you see are nuggets using MPBM or expert controls.Once you run into a novice control + mouse Morgan you'll experience true pain.
>>586089565>the Morgan players are the Game squadron from SPPA predicted this...
>>586088910You're also a nigger but we didn't need to know any of that because it's irrelevant information
>>586085105>if you don't like the most meta fighter in the game you're a boomer who hates foreign jetsCan you at least pretend not to be fucking retarded?
>>586089341But it's ugly
>>586089949The morgan is cool and has thicc thighs
>4 player assault mode>more maps and songs from more AC games added in, as well as from 8s campaignIt's that easy to fix multiplayer
>>586089341That's objectively not true lmaoIt's very good, but it's not the best at anything.
liberation of gracemeria is a pretty bad choice for online musicby the time you get to the good part the phase ends and the music changessuch a big cockblock
>>586090141You are objectively wrong. It is by far the best PvP plane and it's not even remotely close. TLS is an insteadeath laser that can kill you from 6km away with zero counterplay because it's hitscan and ECM means you can't even fight it up close with SASMs or QAAMs.
>>586090032i want an all tunnel run multiplayer map because it would be funny
>>586090993Hamilton Mode, huh?
>>586090993Isn't this basically what Chandelier comes down to?
SO WE WILL RISE ABOVE!IN A WORLD WHERE EVIL IS...REPLACED BY LOVE ANDWE WON'T REGRET IT
>>586090361LAAM spamming in a mig is better for pointsQAAM spamming in an f22 is better for dogfightsthe morgan is really good but it isn't the best
>>586091513my boomer libtard swiftie mom would absolutely love this song
>>586091176no i want a map like the tunnel to the lighthouse in 7 where it's entirely tunnel and targets in them
>>586091575You are wrong. Also what is that screenshot supposed to prove 110k is not exactly an impressive score.You have clearly never gone up against a competent TLS morgan, which dominates the entire enemy team and makes them unable to score points.
>>586091575>QAAM spamming in an f22 is better for dogfightsYou don't know what you're talking about anon. Both FA36 and Su57 are better for dogfights, F22 doesn't get an anti air ability.
>>586079343Forgot "I love quadriplegic pussy"
>>586091513Looks like the girl who sang that didn't know it was for ace combat, she just got paid and never saw her song come out for like a year.https://www.youtube.com/shorts/-WKEXspdzV0
>>586092056that's Copeshadow 22 is flaresexual
>>586092084why the fuck did she make herself look like thatwhat is wrong with foids, man
YOU JUST KNOW SHE'S A FREAK
Kate should have been brunette and I will not elaborate
>>586091689Can't blame her, they don't make swiftie songs like they used to anymore. She's right, music was better back in her day.>>586092084She sang it really well. I wonder if Bandai Namco contacted several singers with it and picked hers? I'll check her other stuff out too, thanks anon.
>>586092056Tewy isn't a quadriplegic though. one of her arms works
>>586091814You're also tunnel visioning on a peak skill ceiling ace Morgan compared to the performance of the median Morgan that you're most likely to encounter.
>>586091715You would've loved that week where we fought in the modded ISEV map.
>>586092423She already is?>>586092297Don't be miserable anon, girls are allowed to have fun with makeup. You see how she looks with a more normal make up later on.
>>586092616>You're also tunnel visioning on a peak skill ceiling ace Morgan Set controls to novice(""standard"").Use mouse controlsDelete people with TLSoptional: Abuse novice control yaw glitch to get insane turnsWow such skill, peak skill ceiling bro.>median Morgan that you're most likely to encounterIf I see a Morgan in warfare there's a greater than 50% chance they're abusing the TLS with novice controls + mouse. Also obviously you should consider the max potential of the plane when discussing how good it is. That's like saying The Su-57 is actually trash because a lot of trash players use it, try to 1v4 the enemy team, and then just die repeatedly.
>>586092779Yeah, but then we hear how shit the lyrics are on her own music compared to singing PA's track.
Anyone has the frame with her corpse flying into the camera? Haven't caught it.
>>586092698>He plays the game in a language other than English or Japanesebut why though?
>>586092330she sneers at licentious women in public and then does everything that they do but in private
>>586088157King and presumably Jack flight were raped into non-existence by Sotoans before Rex came on board.
>/aceg/ questions why the italian guy uses italian windows>/aceg/ questions why the italian guy uses italian in gameLeave the guy alone
Somehow the airfield survived everything that Happened in Theve.
>>586093274Yeah it was kinda weird that specifically wasn't orbital nuked, as well as a nearby military airbase.
>>586093205Speaking of Italy, I'm glad they're pulling their weight with GCAP. Have the bongs stopped being dumb and started funding their share of the project yet?
>>586092969Took this off a youtube playthrough so quality isn't great.I have a few others but after this shit gets so bright yellow it just looks like shit in a still image
Just how long is M28
>>586093458it's a civilian airport, no?why ruin something you will likely use laterthe helicopters on retaking of theve will take off from therein fact it launches a couple of soto fighters as well
>>58609360935 minutes on the low end
>>586093474bongs are trying to sell their A400Ms to italy because they're flat broke
if you used SASM at any point you didn't beat the fucking game
>>586093474>muh totally real project that will totally be finished
>>586093628It is a civilian airport, but the Sotoans claimed they nuked "military targets" and that somehow included a shopping mall but not the local airport.
>>586093736shopping mall is where the recruitment centers are
>>586093834Ah, how silly of me. Of course.
>>586092330Nah. She’s definitely vanilla. About the kinkiest thing she does is fuzzy handcuffs and maybe some feet stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lC7diQ6F904feel like this track was really underutilized
>>586093736Shopping mall is where the off the shelf parts people buy to make satellite superweapons are.
>>586093673It's the realest chance Europe has at developing a 5th gen, at least. Plus nips are getting wary about the chinks and they really want something domestic to replace their older models. Give it 10 years and there'll be more Tempests flying than Felons.
>>586093995
>>586079343I thought the ejecting pilots were a meme you guys were photoshopping in until last night I played Retaking of Theve II on my gun only run (the night mission) and caught a pilot ejecting from one of the Frogfoots early on.
>>586093954answer in the question had it worse because it's only featured when coster & tasha are playing basketball in the beginning and never again
>>586093205If you were unfortunate enough to be born Italian I don't understand why you'd want a constant reminder of it.Games are supposed to be about escapism.
why are all of the european fighter jets dogshit lmao like their best is the typhoon
>>586094283could be worsecould've been born a bong
>>586094180Maybe it would've been used in a cut mission.
>>586094283Better than any other english or japanese speaking place desu.
Doing my multi-role run and I think I've done 90% of my missions with the Su-33. Great to dogfight with and the rockets are just insane. I ripped the wings off the Celaeno without even aiming at the weakpoints.
>>586094359This is Gripen slander
>>586094359They lost WW2 and this is their century of humiliation.
>>586094649Yeah, oh no, free healthcare and walkable cities.Europoors actually believe this btw
>>586094567The truth is an absolute defense against slander
>>586094567I like both, but Typhoon > Gripenit's time to accept it
>>586094359Thrust vectoring would fix them
>Typhoon>GripenIrrelevant comparisons beneath the shadow of the best eurotriangle.
>>586095054it looks too compactlike a pastry that looks nice visually but you bite into it and it's dense as fuck
>>586094359You mean IRL or like in AC8?Because the Eurodoritos are quite good in AC8, one might even accuse the game of having European/Russian bias for how good the doritos and the Sukhois are.
>>586094649But like half of Europe won WW2, no?
>>586095362shhh or the boomer will have another hissy fit
>>586095054Rafales sure are pretty. Would be a real shame if they were sold to idiots and then got shot down, haha...
>>586095362is this really what winning looks like?
>>586094359lack of unified funding and research and a strategy of appeasement vs russia
>>586095564>and a strategy of appeasement vs russiathis is the genuine perception of the average normieuniversal suffrage was an absolute fucking mistake
>>586095459Selling Rafales to Indians was a huge aura loss. Maybe that new Project Wingman interactive movie thing (?) can save it.
>>586095741>Maybe that new Project Wingman interactive movie thing (?) can save it.Impossible. That shit was written by FAN.
>>586095692It's absolutely true though. For decades the EU thought they could just befriend Russia, therefore military investment was unnecessary and just something that could be cut for extra political points.
Typhoon looks too plain. It's like the easiest plane you could construct out of cardboard. If I had to describe a plane to someone over the phone for them to draw, I'd have easiest time with a typhoon. It's just:>2 small engines>one tail above them>delta wings >cockpit where delta wings end>canards near the cockpit>intake under the cockpitDone
Finally get to fight the Alicorn>Get the attack the railgun part>The other 7 players just switch to retard mode>I'm the only one attacking the ship now>we lose as I can't finish it off fast enoughHow could I have ended up in a room with 7 total retards? The game is even telling you where to attack but still no one but me was going after the main gun
>>586097257How are you people still failing sorties? I've only failed one out of over 35. Hell at this point I consider everything that's not an S rank basically a failure.You can absolutely fucking solo all of these btw.
>>586097257Welcome to Emergency Sorties. This is precisely why everyone's been shilling the Frogfoot, Fullback, and Strike Eagle.
>>586096146there's too much to go into to try to correct youit would be way off-topicjust yet another instance of profoundly-surface-level understanding of geopolitics from /aceg/
>>586097420Well sorry for not owning Su25 and my only attacker in my roster is a fucking Su34
>>586097551>I am so smart and the greatest geopolitics understander>No I would never actually explain anything>Just trust me, I am right about everything>I am very smartI love it when people like you try to take a very simple issue and pretend it's actually very complicated just so you can feel smarter about it. Like actually everything in geopolitics has 90000 complex causes and isn't caused by the one obvious thing it was obviously caused by, that would be a surface level understanding. >>586097635Su-34 can solo the Alicorn as well, UGBLs hit every single target on the ship simultaneously and you've got 28 of them. Then just use your 4AGMs for the "hard" targets like the ballast tanks or the railgun core since you can spam all 4 on a single target.
>>586097975>4AGMReally? Do I have to equip this dog shit SPW?
Hiro please fix your website, the hamster-powered servers are dying
>>586098326Are you not already running them? What the fuck are you using your 2nd SPW slot on? HCAAs? Those are completely worthless as you should not be engaging enemy planes in an attacker.You do not need 40 UGBLs in a 5 minute match, even with 28 it's difficult to spend them all.
>>586097420Easy I started playing online today I have 3 planes it was either F-4 or Morgan for the raid. I was down to regular missiles by that point as the other Morgan has fucked off to chase drones with the rest of them including the F-15E player. As in the two other people in the match that could have helped win it.>>586097492And buying a Su-25 was the first thing I did after that, now to level it up.
>>586097975we already know that you're retarded, you don't need to keep convincing us
>>586097551>europe falls hard for the "end of history" meme and neglect their military spending to fund social programs>burgerfuck analysts pointing out that nato allies weren't meeting budget commitments even in the early 2000s>krauts gut their nuclear powerplants in favor of getting gas from the russkies>krauts also gut their aerospace institutional knowledge to the point of being the junior partner to the fucking frogs for developing a new airplane>surprised pikachu face when it turns out that militaries are still actually necessaryGeopolitical motivations aside, a lot of military base and energy base decisions by Europe after the fall of the Soviets have been fucking retarded. It'd be sick if Eurofrens had their own fifth gen fighter to show off alongside the Chinese, Russian, ans American planes but alas.
>>586098456more UGBLs but okay, I'll try those, things.
>>586098770Having 40 UGBLs is a complete waste, when are you even going to use that many? UGBL + 4AGM is a better build for the fullback in every single mode.
>>586096146The EU never tried to befriend Russia, that would be Donald Trump whose candidacy was literally funded by Putin.
>>586098921Planes not /pol/
>>586098581Honestly man just go back to rdit. You can be smarmy and appeal to "what the thread thinks" without explaining yourself there all day, it's actually the entire point of that site.
04 is overrated. As fuck.
>>586099104you can't say that unless you have a deathwish though
>>586099104this but 6
>>586099104People that say this simply don't at their core actually enjoy the ace combat gameplay loop
>>586098770Seconding anon that 4AGM is a must alongside UGBLs. You can easily clear a Warfare map using UGBLs and still have some left over.Naval targets take reduced damage from bombs but full damage from a2g missiles. Drop a UGBL to pop the AA / CIWS / etc and then pump 4AGM + 2 MSL into the main body hp.Also if you're getting harassed it's nice to have some reach to continue hitting ground targets when you have to keep maneuvering and can't aim the bombs
>>586099104This but 7
>>586099104This but 8
>>586099375Nigga, annihilation mission is not AC loop, that's just AC Online but you're by yourself and some AI friends
>we already know that you're retarded, you don't need to keep convincing us>"Yes I do!" he proudly declared
>>586099104this but ac zero
on break, to the anons that told me this game was okay, this game is indeed very okay and I think I like 2 more.
>>586099891how do you find the circle pad for movement controls?I had a terrible time with it when I tried it, but I couldn't tell if the issue was with the game, the hardware, or of my own 3DS just had a bad circle pad
>>586099891why would you like tumor? That game doesn't even have expert controls
>>586099891DFM was so cancer that it dragged down a remake of 2.
Superweapon idea: Flying submarine
>>586099173I made a post two or some threads ago.It's mid, both the post and the game.>>586099250I don't see people praise 6 as much and having replayed both just recently I had more fun with 6.>>586099427It's the best we have atm.>>586099375Nuh-uh. It plays like shit, has hands down the most boring set of missions out of all the mainline games and a mediocre OST compared to the rest, outside of maybe 6 that's somehow even less interesting in the OST department >>586099592At least ACZ has some 'cool' merc flavor, plays well and has more bangers. 0 and 4 are probably tied in terms of the mediocrity of their mission sets but even then I can only think of 2 truly shitty bombing runs in 0, whereas 1/3 of 04 felt that way.
>>586100235>I don't see people praise 6 as muchI really only praise its gameplay / mission structureand I guess parts of its soundtrack
>>586100176At what altitude do they switch from hexagons to squares?
>>586099104>04 is overrated. As fuck.
Four. Another number.
>>586100337>I really only praise its gameplay / mission structureI agree with this. Like I said>having replayed both just recently I had more fun with 6.
Send all EA-36 pilots to the promised land via hammers and woodchippers
>>586100069>That game doesn't even have expert controlsit did, but yaw had to be mapped to the d-pas because lack of buttonsplus that was the entire point of Legacy+, since the NEW 3DS had as many buttons as the OG playstation. for mega autists the monster hunter grip hori made for mh4 gave the thing a traditional shoulder button layout, so it gave monster hunter, ace combat, metal gear, etc. regular controls
>>586100046it feels like it's slower to respond, but it feels more like an issue with the game than hardware specific>>586100069because it's faster and there's less bullshit between the moment to moment gameplay, but it's still decent, the worst ace combats are still fun to an extent
i flew the mig 21 once and now i feel the need to start up at least 5 shitty bollywood companies and an array of scam call centers in cambodia.this shit sucks
>>586100879I remember falling in love with it after clearing 5 using only the rocket pods FishbedJank has a certain charm to it
>>586100069>why would you like tumor?speech-to-text poster detected
>>586101059
>>586101279FLAT
which translation of AC3 do people usually go for anyways? I used the old version of Project Nemo but I want to get one of my friends to play it soon
>>586101459Learn Japanese.
>>586101001I'm trying to hard to make this plane work man.
>>586101459LWT has complete database entries, which is good because 3 goes heavy with its narrative/setting lore.
>>586101498I'd rather Chinese, at least I can apply for a good job with that one
Kazakhstan, home...
>>586101459I like the font in the other one more.
Kill EA-36 pilots. Behead EA-36 pilots. Roundhouse kick a EA-36 pilot into the concrete. Slam dunk EA-36 pilots into the trashcan. Crucify EA-36 pilots. Defecate in a EA-36 pilot’s rations. Launch EA-36 pilots into the sun. Stir fry EA-36 pilots in a wok. Toss EA-36 pilots into active volcanoes. Urinate in a EA-36 pilot’s fuel tank. Judo throw EA-36 pilots into a wood chipper. Twist EA-36 pilots' heads off. Report EA-36 pilots to the IRS for tax fraud. Karate chop EA-36 pilots in half. Trap EA-36 pilots in quicksand. Crush EA-36 pilots in the trash compactor. Liquefy EA-36 pilots in a vat of acid. Eat EA-36 pilots. Dissect EA-36 pilots alive. Stomp EA-36 pilot skulls with steel-toed boots. Cremate EA-36 pilots in the oven. Lobotomize EA-36 pilots. Grind EA-36 pilot's insides in the garbage disposal. Drown EA-36 pilots in oil vats. Vaporize EA-36 pilots with a railgun. Kick old EA-36 pilots down the stairs. Feed EA-36 pilots to alligators. Slice EA-36 pilots with a katana.
>>586101551didn't they update PN to add those?>>586101581ngl I liked the translation in the older version of PN because it had a reference to Fighter's Honor from 2 that didn't get carried over to the updated version for some reason
>>586100912>department of defense>not warIs PA woke?
>>586100469Never liked four. Six is important.
>>586101697This
>>586101697>Nooo you must fly the based Growler in the EW role, how dare you fly the slightly more selfish EA-36 and actually get some points for yourself
This is like the meme where they replace Hegel with Hegel.
I wonder if we'll get Neucom's backstory. Maybe it's DD's company.
>>586102226Everything said there applies to Growler too.
I dont care for DD as a character
>>586102370Ah yes, because everyone should only be flying the super slow Prowler as their EW plane. Just wait for point limited lobbies if you want everyone in shitboxes.
>>586102426You're not supposed to. He is a fuckup that needs to learn something.
We are Diamond Dogs.
>>586102501big boss wouldve loved savia
>>586102459Ideally nobody should be flying EW planes, but I'll give Prowler a pass.
Any recommendations for my final run for a while? I have all the medals, just need about 4 million more MRP.
>>586101912Ace Combat development cycles are measured in decades, if not centuriesthey started working on AC8 just after the DoW changed its name the first time
>>586102704If you want a big furball where everyone uses fighters just play Deathmatch.
>Use shit ass mig21>up against clanfaggotry equipped in full f22s and ea36>get dog piled and bullfight entire round>evasive flying so good it gives the rest of the team free killswhat the fuck is this plane, i feel like i'm flying a boat where i can't kill shit, i have a kick me sign but it's good enough to make people mad by existing
>>586102790>people don't bring EW planes to deatchmatchIf only
>>586101059203. 412. 277. 191.
>>586102735SPW only.
>>586102735pick a plane that you've never really liked and don't see the appeal of it, and try to use that plane until you either develop some newfound appreciation for it or you conclude that you'll never like it, and then move on to the next one like this
>>586102869Deathmatch, not Team Deathmatch. EW planes are kinda worthless in regular Deathmatch.
>>586102876Ping this IP.you can't
>>586102876Why does your plane number remain 203 after 203 blows up in Rio Bajo?
>>586102735>no parts>droptanks only>cockpit viewfarm ALL the aura
>>586102936Everything said here still applies. >>586101697
>>586102883This would just devolve into another MGP run.>>586102897This sounds interesting. Problem is, I like the vast majority of the plane roster in this game aside from the A6 and I flew that plenty in the attacker run. Maybe an F18C canon run?>>586103076Cockpit view sounds good.
>we no has nuff pilots>plane #412So there are at least 408 more pilots????????? Did they lie?
>>586103224Ban yourself from using MGPs then.
Is the Lux Lunae skin for the Su-57 obtainable?
>>586103447yes
>>586103447It refuses to unlock for me. I have the achievement for every record and I still don't have the skin.>>586103494substantiate your claims
>>586103632>substantiate your claimswe don't do that here.
>>586103607Close
>>586103632Database says you should get it if you shoot down Shadow 24 ("shoot down the Shadow Su-57 in MISSION 18").wait, have you filled out the assault records?
>>586103725The Rafala is the 404th's plane and Savia's plane of choice, truly a mercenary craft.
>>586102226all EW planes must be sent to the promised land via woodchipper
>>586103831>Fr*nchno
>>586103607
>>586103807I just said I have the achievement for getting every record, so yes.
>>586104057Is that true?
>>586104682It's certainly 'one of'.
>>586095692What do you think the Nord stream pipeline was other than a hand of friendship to Russia and a middle finger to the entirety of countries in-between them and Germany?
>join emergency sortie>>chandelier>alt+f4get that shit off my screen
>>586104072Must be a bug.
>>586104072On one hand it hasn't seen actual combat. On the other hand it's been shot down by Pakistan/China.
I'm a Sotoan and I think Rafale is a cool plen.
Never ask a Sotoan what country he currently lives in.
>>586105036*it's never been shot down byYep, that's a sign to stop posting. Good night aceggers, may you get all the emergency sorties.
>>586104971you don't want free MVP surrounded by mentally deficit blockheads who pretend like they never played AC6?
>>586105129>posted from Hoffnung
>>586104971nuggets are more likely to clear chandy than the alicorn
>look at the frogfoot>decide to make two loadouts>MGP+SFFS and MGP+4AGM>depending on the paired SPW, the MGPs are mounted on different pylonsI don't know why this upsets me so much.
>>586105280You can't get the MVP bonus in emergencies though. Or scrambles.
>>586102771>credits are made when the game development first starts>it takes decades to change a text in creditsDelusion is not good for you anon
>>586105280i just want to spam ugb
>give this livery to f-2>but not to f-16What's wrong with PA?
>>586105798Rotating online store skin :^)
>>586105798F-2 does not have that skin.
I want to marry F22
This part of Last Hope reminds me of a Wangan Midnight Maximum Tune track but I don't know what, the melody or motif here is so reminiscent I can almost taste it.Does anyone have an idea?https://youtu.be/H3bUAbklzcc?t=223
new Kate just dropped into the ocean
>>586105621do it above the barrel then???
>>586105926It does in the online shop
>>586105989I FUCKING FOUND ITMY EARS ARE FUCKING GODLIKEhttps://youtu.be/sHx6-HObIEwAHAHAHAHAHA
>>586106051
>>586102735If you haven't already done this, don't answer any of Tewy's questions in mission 29
>>586105989>>586106267w-what the fuck?
>>586106267Yeah I can hear it, also I'm glad the stuff by the Initial D guy keeps getting fucking banger music
>>586106267I wonder if they have a shared sound library since it's both Bamco
>>586106185isn't that the ADTW livery
>>586106267I kneel.
>>586106185that's the prototype livery from the pre-serie f-2a flown by the ADTW retard
>>586106267Was this ever noticed before...?
>ac8 selected tracks album is on shittify It's 11 tracks.
>>586107094it's the same as the soundtrack files one of the guys recently shared here, no?
>>586107094The most important track is out so I don't care
>>586105028Huh, weird. Just checked and my Su-57 also doesn't have a shadow skin, meanwhile I have he X-40 Shadow skin for all the assault records and have gotten all medals/cheevos.
experimental Sky Crawlers recomphttps://d.uguu.se/tlQyhasN.7z>runs from any disc image including compressed formats>native widescreen>MSAA, FXAA, anisotropic filtering, texture upscaling, etc. as options>separate audio/subtitle options (if you want jap audio with english text you'll need JP+NA/EU disc images)>AC-LIKE CONTROLS!!!!!>in-flight camera switching>photo mode>cheat codes>more?let me know what you think
>>586107245Probably. I don't remember how many tracks that one had. I think it had like over 20 or something.
>>586107338actually i just checkedno it isn'tit was ~30, this one has 10 or so
Anyone know where the bridge is that I need to fly under to spawn the m29 ace?I found these two interchanges during the mission but neither of them worked.Gonna keep searching in free flight for now
>>586107551I'm sure you could check youtube for it.
>>586107551It's near the coast in the area with the tall buildings but I'm too lazy to get a screenshot.
>>586107320and the sourcehttps://n.uguu.se/QAKyDfmu.7zthe decomp of the original files is nearly complete with 8,644/8,704 functions matched, which was assisted by the fact that the japanese build of the game included debug symbols lol. if anyone actually knows what they're doing please continue the work as I think progress has reached its limits with current LLMs.
https://youtu.be/9BEtsWf3s5o
>>586107739my crippled psychotic turkic femdom wife
>>586107613I don't know why it never occurs to me to search youtube. I just read the wiki and figure I'd have to find it myself. Unironic thank you anon>>586107681Thanks I'll try one of those next
>>586107094Oh yeah. Isn't the best ost nomination is presented by shpotify? Would make sense why they're releasing basically some of the meatiest tracks as a mini-album.
>>586106051I like how Tasha was such a big focal point of the marketing and then they made Kate the prettiest girl ever as a joke. Yeah I said it, she clears EVERY other AC waifu.
EW faggots need to rope>hurr i fly near u so u cant shoot missle XDyour mother shouldve swallowed you
>>586108301Kei clears I'm afraid
>>586108638Used goods.
>>586108638>generic jap ladynahnagase sucks and swallowskate best girl
>>586108705Used by me>>586108734>nagase sucks and swallowsGod I wish
>>586108429Nerf coming soon. Maybe. I have no idea. It depends.
>>586108301>they made Kate the prettiest girl ever>Yeah I said it, she clears EVERY other AC waifuyou're right
>6 matches in a row aborted because somebody left the lobbyThe game should at least have the fucking decency of rolling the dice for a scramble/emergency sortie. May those niggers' sticks forever drift.
>>586108968Bot backfill is lost technology trapped in Infinity.
The F/A-18E is so fucking sexy
>>586109220It does backfill if it can't fill a room or if someone quits after the game has started. It just wastes your fucking time if someone disconnects in the lobby or during loading. No I don't need to see the intro if you're already going to kill the server stop it STOP IT
>warfare match>the map with zero ground targets>PS-nigger brings a fullbackHe had like 5k points by the end. Deadweight nigger.
>>586108913>before nerf: 2xEa36 makes dogfighting obselete>after nerf: 2xEa36 makes dogfighting obsoleteGood nerf, PA
>>586109890Then don't dogfight? Why are people making problems out of nothing? Just scrape the ground like a good boy you are
>>586110196>don't play the game
This shitty multiplayer really brings the worst out of you people.
MSL should be immune to ECM. FITE ME!
Guns guns guns
I don't understand the Type-B reticle. It just jumps all over the screen.
Mmmmmm saarr you want to fly the mig 21
>>586110386Put the reticle over the target and go BRRRRRRRRRRRRT
>>586110791But the reticle doesn't go over the target at all. It just fucks off to narnia.
>>586110716I probably would have leveled it for arsenal bird, but I don't want to spend that many gold BPs on it.
>This man was his buddy. And his enemy.Still gives me chills to this day.
>>586110893Literally raise your F4E if all you want is MGP dude
>>586110893F4E.SU-25 Frogfoot.I am literally leveling my Mig-21 because I saw some Youtuber harass the absolute shit out of a bomber with it, and it made me curious to fuck around with the plane. only for me to find out that it has the worst performance and handling i have ever seen, at low levels. it made me wish there were specifically low cost lobbies.
Hortus Regis Alti will be performed at TGA.You heard it here first folks.
>>586110893I wonder if it's a mistake that it has mid tier upgrade costs despite being 200 cost.I also wonder if they'll ever fix that mistake since the last update they announced has ceased to fucking exist.
Difference between Type A and B target reticle? Which is more 'realistic'?
>>586111539one is floatythe other one is the ps2 rigid onethe second one made me into chris kyle neighborhood sniper
>>586111539a is like 7's, wobbly since it's trying to compensate for your movements or some shitb is like older games and you can actually hit shit with it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALdKqHunKe4&list=PLGzf_95xpbyY&index=12Sorry, XO, I haven't listened to the brief due to vibing.
>>586110854Cause you and the target are maneuvering. It calculates to account for both of your movements to show you where you need to aim to land a hit. If it's bouncing all over the place it's because where you need to aim is also bouncing all over the place.
>>586111101I did raise my F4E. The mig does a bit more damage to airborne targets because it's a fighter and has some more +damage abilities.
>>586112626I don't think the different material tier difference is worth a little damage increase, who the fuck decided that mig 21 is a mid tier plane?
This skin is great, but is it worth 30 gold blueprints?None of the American planes have good special skins
>>586112850whomst???
>>586112850>>586112869Forgot pic like a dumbass
>>586112869clearly the f-117
>>586112748I don't either. That's why I haven't bought the thing. If it was a cheap plane like the F4 I probably would have leveled it for Arsenal Bird, but since it's not I'm just using the F4E.
>>586099891okay I was playing this a little bit more and I got stuck on the level where you have to fight waves of fighters and I was having a hard time understanding why I was dying to the final dog fight, but then I realized that the qte manuever mechanic is seemingly mandatory. the game allows you to turn it off or whatever reason, maybe you can play without it, but it seems pretty obnoxious to dodge missiles without it. much like 6, high g turns can stall you super quick compared to 7/8, but they're not nearly as helpful. I think it's an okay game still, but definitely a weird playing entry in the series, although I've yet to play Assault Horizon. also, as much as I love the 2ds, I really hate the circle pad and how fucking stiff it feels to use after a long period of use.
>shooting down arsenal bird with gunpods while my team is full of morgan nuggetsWords cannot describe how much that I wish that the burst missile was the final limit break unlock on the morgan.
I've finished unlocking everything in the Belkan War battle pass, but I can't seem to find the Belkan roundels. Surely this is some error!??!
>>586112972it's meh
Is Fuscus 1 in Mission 15 voiced by Dan Southworth?
>>586113697It definitely sounds like him, I noticed it too and seen other people comment on it.
>AI bubble is poppinglager lager lager
>>586113929qrd?
>>586113954Electrosphere is collapsing and gov is not planning to bail it outNemo is fucking dead
>>586114043>BROKE NIGGA ALERT>BROKE NIGGA ALERT
>>586114043so what's the prognosiswill i be able to buy RAM for a fair price anytime soon?
>>586114092No because all the RAM has been bought up until 2030, and all of that RAM was bought on "we promise we'll be profitable later".>so they're not profitable, does this free up the RAM for regular consumers?lol, no
>>586114043The goy squares turn red like every month and nothing happens
>>586114172>-0.86%oh no. They'll never be able to recover from that after their, how much of a % climb again?
>>586114367You don't understand short positions.
>>586114258anti-belkanic
>>586113658That's a shame.I can't find any American planes with skins I like. I don't want to fly the basic black or grey ones
>>586114493f16 and the qaam f18 both have aggressor camouflages; check them out
>>586114258It means "You're on your own, fuckers".
Why does 8 hate attackers?>no endgame equivalent to the Game/Barricader>1 (one) (uno) carrier launch plane>most planes have terrible SPW loadouts>downward pointed guns are fucking awful to use>highest concentration on low tier that all fly like brics
why does most of zero feel like some forgettable low-intensity war and not the world war of the previous century it's purported to be? there's only what, like 4 missions that actually feel epic and world-changing in scope
>>586115075Attackers tend to suck in campaign mode.>here's a ground attack mission>SURPRISE ENEMY SQUADRON INBOUNDSome of the better planes in online are attackers though.>Gunpod Su-25 is the king of Chandelier>Su-34 is the tactical nuke king of warfare mode>SFFS F-15E obliterates alicorn (or Su25 if you want to stay on a budget).
>>586115075>hate attackersThe fuck you mean nigga? Frog and Duck shit on everything. Only the A10 is bad.
>>586115075If there was to be a high tier attacker then it'd need to be fictional because nobody makes dedicated attackers any more. But attackers aren't cool enough for the devs to want to make a superplane version of them. Except the Adler one time but then they gave it terrible specials anyway. If they bring it back they'd better change them.
>>586117771We already have the dorito F22 version
>>586117854Oh yeah. Somehow I forgot about that because I'm an idiot or senile or something.Yeah that could be good.
Also Fregata
KONOOOOOOOOOOOOOMY DEMANDS HAVE INCREASED
>>586106267i can only hear ghostbustersoh nevermind the violins just came on
>>586118140Should've been the Erne instead of coldsteel F22
I really like PW but I've played it too many times, I wish I could fly our Chimera in Ace Combat too.
KONOOOOOOOOOOMAKE THE HAPPYJET AN ATTACKERWHY NOT
woooooahhh wooooooahhhh woooooahhhh woooahhhh woah oah oah oahhhhhhh
KONOOOOOOOOOTHIS COULD ALSO BE AN ATTACKER IF YOU'RE FEELING RETARDEDBUT JUST ADD IT INTO THE GAME EITHER WAY
much like women, flat planes are boring
>>586118263>>586118589These aren't attackers what the fuck.>>586118835Chihaya mudhen.Lindsay X-36.
>>586118589get the fuck away from my yf23 its not an attacker
>>586113080I play it now and then on my New 3DS XL and even it's a bit uncomfortable after too long. The thing just isn't made for this type of game but it isn't too bad. AHL's a weird ass game but I'm rather fond of it myself. It has a good plane roster which helps. As far as the stalling goes, there are certain parts that make you dump speed insanely fast and it's gotten me killed a few times.
>>586118589>americans chose the yf22 over the yf23 because its production was mature and then proceeded to cancel the production halfway through its runhehe genius
>fort grays warfare>get attacked by f-22 and su-57 after the initial bot farm>hey team can i get some support?>we're farming ai planes :)>get killed because i'm not good enough to win a 2v1>f-22/su-57 combo go on to kill the rest of my team one by oneIT'S CALLED TEAMWORK YOU RETARDSWE HELP EACH OTHER AND WE DON'T DIE
>>586077225>guy in the online lobby doing a lay down flat emote>girl comes up and does the push-up emote so it looks like she's giving headokay i laughedto keep it on topic, how's boom and zoom in online? i kinda want ot use the f-15j with hpaa's in that manner
Canyone race MP mode when?
>>586099104The terrible truth /aceg/ is not yet ready to handle is that both 4 and Zero are quite mediocre.
what are you guys running for fighters in terms of parts online? i swear i must be dogshit despite finishing the campaign on ace with all S ranks, I am unable to land a missile on an su-34 trying to do bombing runs in warfare, and then they'll stop to try to 1v1 me, and close their high-g turn loop faster and tighter than me and kill me with plane missilesalthough idk, you only get like 2-3 parts so i'm sure it's not even that big of a difference and i'm somehow complete ass to get outmaneuvered and dogfought by a clunky attacker
>>586120971>f-15jI love how you immediately go for the bottom tier option
Zero has a good vibe with the ethic choices and the live action cutscenes. 4 is just bad 2 remake.
>>586121437I think their plane is maxed while yours isn't
it's always sad when you get ACE but come third
>>586121446is it that bad? i looked at the level 20 stats and it seems to be one of the fastest and nimblest planes in the game.
Just bought the ace pass so now I have 120 gold bpsI just dunno which plane to spend them on
>>586121810In MP you prioritize their SP weapon, HPAA and HCAA are just ain't it man
>>586121972you save it to buy the next battle passcheap ass bamco made it so you don't get enough coins in a pass to buy the next one, probably the only game i can think of that does that
>>586097420First time doing Chandelier was an absolute disaster
>>586122009so are pure missile builds not that good? aside from i guess ESM helping you out
>>586122393nah, you really need SPW in multiplayer
>>586121437>level 19 on F15C and getting smoked by TyphoonsAm beginning to think this ain't it for me chief
>>586121465>Zero>ethic choicesWhat?Are we calling the yellow targets thing some sort of morality system now or what are you talking about?
>>586122861meant as reply to >>586121586
>>586122093overwatch does it too, but it gives you back about 60% of the battlepass' cost in currency, i should've expected bamco to be even beneath that
>>586118934>These aren't attackers what the fuck.>>586118978>get the fuck away from my yf23 its not an attackerokay fine, we can go back to the fighter/buddy-22I just want any excuse to get some of the missing planes back into the game
>>586122093i mean gold blueprints man
>you're gemma flight leader>all the children are dead>there's only one way out
>>586124692>time to get knocked up by some FCU troops!
>>586125094>he'd fuck a n****Back against the wall NOW... buddy
>>586124692>she blows herself away>2 seconds later your teammates don't even acknowledge it and say yeah, good job! another successful mission!"is this sort of carefree attitude to life in strangereal normal now? i don't recall the previous games being like this
>>586112687>Hey Rex, want me to make you some nuggets for breakfast?
>>586125858Well, when 50,000 people die every other day or so, and tens of thousands more are displaced, impoverished, and disenfranchised, life loses its sanctity a teensy wittle bit. Much like how all those Sotoans ended up in Heaven despite the thousands of innocents they've murdered. I guess Strangereal-God doesn't care.
>On the seventh day the lord took a rest but before he did he took a squat over the side of Yuktobania and what came out was Sotoa!>What the hell have you been reading Coster?>Baxter's manifesto.
>>586124692>there's only one way outhorizontal collaboration?
>>586126000but none of the previous games were really like this so what's going on here?
>>586125858I get the impression that not everything you hear on the radio is actually heard by your wingmen because it's been very inconsistent throughout the whole series
>>586125929>sure thing, but only if they're fried to a fucking crisp
ace combat zero vr
>>586126079>oh, this? Just a habit, hahaI understand the rest of the Endurance failing to notice, but how did Ellington "Soat Remover" Baxter not recognize his own lead being one of them?
>>586126548give. now.
>>586126560To be fair we didn't ever see Bax fly wingman for him and he was injured when we first encountered him. Otherwise we probably would have seen him tackle the filthy yurt dweller off the side of the ship.
It's been a month and I haven't found any bugs or had any game crashes, and performance has been consistent for 99% of the gameWhy can't other devs be competent too?
>>586126680i'm so hyped for gta 6 where over half the devs by employee count are indian
ピヨッ!
What's with the pacmans?
>>586126548VR mods for 7 and 8 need to have the helmet missile tracking.
Will we get VR mods that let you go on a date with Kate?
>>586126748Post nuggets
>>586126786Does pc zero not have widescreen?
>>586126879
>>586126786just a bamco reference for when you reach max score with your plane of choice>>586126748cute
>>586126646Cope has called Baxter his "trusty wingman" or something to that effect, and Baxter is aware of his ring too, so they must have flown at least a few times together.
>>586086642Is there a pic of her blasting her brains out? Just curious.>>586092330Well it's already confirmed she is into anal.
>>586126947Its widescreen in the missions
Oh wow FAEB really does delete everything on the XB-0 in one hit and entirely trivialize the mission, was this intended or an oversight?
>>586124692Her hubris got them killed. There are two types of officers, killing and murdering officers. Killing officers are poor old buggers who get you killed by mistake. Murdering officers are mad bad old buggers who get you killed on purpose and that lieutenant Mavisimen is a murdering officer.
>>586127584They probably weren't that worried about balance>Well you had your fun beating the level with FAEB, how about doing it again but with another special weapon?
what plen(s) for a speedrun of 8 in ace
>>586128691MiG-31
>>586127670Is Kate a killing officer? Whole Queen Flight sploded under her leadership
>>586128691Game with all speed and maneuverability parts, no contest.
>>586107739Lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDLJBXRuO-Y
>Ellington "if they're a soat, throw em off the boat" Baxter. How did he get that name?
I want to see them use Sapin more in Ace Combat, just as an excuse to have more Spanish guitar in the soundtrack.
>Still thirty days left of the battlepassIs online dead yet? Or have nameco's beaten wives rallied
>>586130343It's alive somehow but I'm pretty sure a significant amount of people are just camping the party finder until they get their 5 blueprints and then quitting for the day.
>>586122348Buy a SU-25https://youtu.be/xM14RzlUMO0
>>586130343No-matchmaking killed it for sure.
>>586129269Kate is a perfect baby who can do no wrongeverything that got her squadron killed was out of her handsforce majeure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=its6u8KW1ScSAAMbros keep winning
FA-36 -NMO- when
>>586132230Season 26
>>586127670Mavisimen was only the backupMajor Betsyag was the commander
anyone have any tips for PvP dogfighting? i know its not easy to win fights against better planes in my low level mig-29 but im curious what i could be doing better and what noob traps im falling into
>>586133129>mig-29
>>586129269Kate is definitely a killing officer. If she was in charge of that nugget flight she would never have ordered them to attack in the first place and if she had to gone in alone. Queen flight would be another matter as she would expect them to have a greater than evens chance of surviving.
>>586133516i was using the f-16, and i really want to use both flankers, but i felt using the qaams on the f16 was reinforcing bad habits and the multirole category for both flankers is offputting to me. also i like the mig 29 and get some satisfaction for being off meta
>>586133129Don't get into turn fights with your low level plane, maneuverability scales with plane level. Try using different approaches instead, disengaging and reengaging.Try to fight alongside your wingmen, the tracking boost missles get when you have an ally targeting the same enemy is significant.Don't let your speed drop too much, you need to be around 1000km/h to reliably avoid missles.Use a plane that has SASMs or QAAMs, install all tracking upgrades you can, as well as radius ones in case of SASM.
>>586133129>level your plane up (play assault for that, it gives more plane XP)>play with buddies for better coordination (vital at high MMR)>BE FUCKING AWARE AND READY TO JINK>pay attention to the radar>if you're not certain you can outskill and kill an opponent, exploit the MSL targeting bonus mercilessly, essentially using the Thach Weave so that you or your buddy can get shots off>use your gun, love your gun>if it's a 1v1, try to PSM (and your MiG-29 is pretty good at that speed range, just make sure you're not getting targeted by someone else when you're slow)
>>586133129>in my low level mig-29You'll need to level that shit up otherwise lube the hell up buttercup. You'll also want to learn how to PSM abuse and fight in clouds cause you're pretty much fighting uphill doing anything else.
Why can't Bamco into online? On any of their games? It's like the one thing they're consistently shite at. Company big as theirs, can't be that hard to hire competent network engineers and game designers.
>>586130219I don't, hearing English with a Spanish accent makes me cringe and you just know they'd have squadrons called Paella and Torero and that would simply kill me irlt. spaniard
Can you nuke the third hidden drone ship before it launches the drones onto the elevator?
>>586133956Multiroles do 100% damage in pvp, Fighters do 110%F-16 gets an air to air damage ability that's listed as x1.2. If additive with the innate bonus your total is 1.3, if multiplicative your total is 1.32Su-33 gets a similar ability at a value of 1.3. Whether additive or multiplicative your total is 1.3The Su-33 performs just fine if you want to use it
>>586134990Making good online is really difficult. There's like less than 10 good online games worldwide.
>>586135037Yes. It launches them anyway.
>>586135115Man are there any skill-based skips you can do in 8?
>>586135030Yeah I get that. I cringe whenever I hear my accent being spoken also. I just love spanish guitar and I feel its a bit underused in gaming. I can only recall 2 game from the top of my mind which use it: AC0 and RE4.
>>586135184Pretty much every point score mission will skip the timer when you delete all targets.
>>586135663Some point-counters have a second phase after reaching the score goal, does that not count towards mission time?
>>586135663No I don't mean just number go up. I mean skipping a phase/wave completely.
>>586135057I did some testing in free flight against ai and the damage seems odd. Multirole should be doing 100% damage with no damage ability, 130% with the ability in one slot, and either 160% or 169% with the ability in two slots. Fighter should be doing 125% damage with no abilities and either 145% or 150% damage with the ability. So there's no scenario where they should be doing the same damage.But when I tested multirole with single ability did the same damage as a fighter with no ability, and multirole with double ability did the same damage as a fighter with it. So it seems like it's working in tiers rather than with actual numbers, even though the planner site doesn't seem to think that's how it should work. Not sure what's going on.It's a lot harder to test damage numbers vs people, but I suspect fighters will still have an edge.
>>586136172NTA but yeah, that's exactly what you can do in M16. If you quickly spot the third ship and blow it up before shooting the drones, you'll skip the second wave of UAVs. Actually if you're super efficient and fairly competent with guns, you can sort of "skip" the UAV launch entirely by quickly blowing up the 3rd ship, then holding gun fire over its bow just right, all the bunched-up UAVs go down together instantly. You can finish the mission in under 2 mins doing this. This however requires you memorize where the 3rd ship will be, and there are three separate placement patterns to memorize based on where the other two ships are.
>>586121119>goober in a Morgan immediately climbs out of the trench, and again every respawn
>>586125858>>586126228I think it's implied, at least in 7 and 8, that a fair amount of enemy radio chatter can only be heard by the player outside of the game world. Probably most strongly implied in 7 with the saboteur on the ground screwing up Stonehenge. Trigger may be a bloodthirsty killer, but I'm sure he'd alert someone if he heard that transmission.
>>586134175>>586134276>>586134558>>586135057thanks for the advice. i've gotten the mig-29 up to lvl 10 and it's been pretty fun to use but i can definitely feel that hcaas and hpaas are not the same as qaams lol. i just wish TDM gave you better rewards (and was around 24/7), since playing assault for combat xp is boring as sin and warfare is fine but with the new weekly challenge i'm getting a lot of ew planes in my lobbies. i really like the pvp in this game, even when im getting stomped by a mig-31. i think i'll start grinding out the su-33 a bit now. keeping up my speed and not spamming high g turns has been a big help to stop me getting smacked by laams
>>586136380I think the F-35 is the only one with two of that ability? Don't have that leveled upI can definitely do some testing later with the F-16 and Su-33 since neither needs gold blueprints
A chinese friend just sent me his AC0 aces listWhy it looks so good compared to the international one
>>586138681>Spuk
>>586137847I did some testing of my own. I shot an AH-64 in the training level with a single bullet per plane. Attacker got 9 points for it, multirole got 15 points, multirole with the damage ability/fighter with no ability got 18 points, multirole with double damage ability/fighter with the ability got 20 points.I also tried shooting a SAM site. Fighter got 6 points, fighter with ground damage got 9 points, multirole got 15 points, attacker got 20 points. I unfortunately don't have a multirole or attacker with the ground damage abilities so I can't test them.There's probably some rounding off going on here. Maybe I should have shot something worth more points so I could have gotten higher numbers. Except I'm not going through the starting/stopping/visiting hangar menus again so I won't.I'll post screenshots of the fighter with ground damage and multirole with double air damage numbers since most people don't have a level 15 F-16 or F-35 so they can't check them themselves. Won't bother with the rest since those are easy.
>5x warfare with EW>5x warfare with attackerWow, FUCK OFF.
>>586139276Also the SAMs directly east of the land base seem broken. Their missiles explode as soon as they shoot. Don't know how that happens. Very strange.
>hmmm your team is all tier 1 or two aircraft?>i know the perfect matchup for you guys! :)i'm going to fucking kill myself
>>586139493Jokes on them, Rex is on the other team!
>>586139493I stopped playing this dogshit like a week ago. I don't think I'll ever play it again.
>>586139493I've got an E-sortie ready if you feel like taking a break from the faggotry.
why do people act like im supposed to care about these fucking retardsdoesnt matter how green you are, you came into a warzone with state of the art fighter craft with the intent to kill me and my friends, enjoy being gibbed and your remains splattering into the ocean to be fed on by fish
>>586140017I just love being bloodthirsty in Ace Combat. Kill 'em all.
>>586139421I guess she uhhhh... is going to shatter the uhhh... skies of deception.... and put an end to this war....
>>586140017Dumb people win dumb prizes is what I thought of them. Then of course the Shadows made me lose any potential sympathy I may have had for the Sotoan and firmly locked me on a path of leaving none alive.
>>586139421why didnt she just launch the spear into the ocean is she stupid
>>586140620Not even Belkans were this unambiguously evil, at least they got juked out their lands, wtf is Sotoa's excuse?
>>586139493Wait until you find the 1 Su-34, 1 EA-36 and 2 Su-57s/F-22s in identical camos that were totally not partied up
>>586140759Their country looks this.
>>586140838But they did that to themselves. It's like if Belka skipped the whole war, nuked themselves, then invaded Osea.
>be mostly a nation of nomadic pasture based peaceful people >rape your land to death in order to hyper industrialize and modernize in order to conquer Usea >end up losing anyways, have multiple major industry zones destroyed, become laughing stock and villains of the entire planet, all your best and brightest are dead from the war, nation is now a barren wasteland of life and Usea conducts 'peacekeeping' operations in your land with impunityActual THE RAPED nation
>>586139493Genuinely can't believe they greenliet this plane's design. Look at that fucking hump. Those wingtips. How gracelessly the bottom shoots up toward the exhaust. Fucking abomination.
These challenges are seriously fucking overestimating my desire to play Warfare.
>weekly challenge means every team has at least 2x EA-36
>>586141082They're the ones who raped themselves it anything. They're lucky they didn't get annexed by the FCU or Yuktobania.
>>586140694I swear you people just look at the pretty pictures and don't pay any attention at all. Enso wanted to spear their HQ to erase the evidence of their involvement in the warIf she had aimed it at the ocean, their operatives would have been able to destroy evidence in more conventional waysAiming at the land battleship's nuclear reactor would keep Enso HQ intact and irradiate the area, forcing the world to pay attention and preventing Enso operatives from getting in to destroy evidence
>>586141059The Yuktobanians cucked them out of half their water supply with dam construction.
>ADFX-02Tent: 9 pointsAh-64: 15 pointsAh-64: 18 points (a2a bonus 1.3)Su-33: 32 points>F-16CTent: 3 pointsTent: 6 points (a2s 1.5)Ah-64: 18 pointsAh-64: 20 points (a2a 1.2)Su-33: 38 pointsSu-33: 44 points (a2a 1.2)Honestly these numbers don't make a lot of sense. Only thing I can say is that the air to surface mod on F-16 seems useless, it still can't oneshot basic SAMs and AA.
>>586141259I dropped online like a hot turd laat week, you should do the same.
>>586140838They figured out cold fusion, they should be able to do something.
>>586141401Where'd you get that? And if that was the case, why tf didn't they invade Yuka then? And not a completely unrelated 3rd party? Fucking pussies.
>>586141751to be fair the FCU is a total joke of the nation that basically lost the war until they got bailed out by Ace Combat protagonist rng they hedged their bets well and rolled the 1 in a million anti jackpot
>>586141751>invade Yuktobania>somehow win>now you have to live in YuktobaniaI can see why they wouldn't.
>>586141751They tried to they got their ass kicked last time.
>>586142057>WEEEEW SOCIAL MEDIA SLOPPPP!!!! FUCK YEAH!!!!!actually ruined the ending for me
>>586142057I had such a wide smile when this scene played, it's so stupid on paper but they made the moment so genuine that I can't help but feel happy about it
>>586142103>>586142192now kiss
How come the bad guys never roll the generational hyper ace in Strangereal
>>586142103>>586142057>>586142192Would it have been better if he was posting on the Eurasian sock knitting forum?
>>586142057>/#/
>>586142192Don't let the americans change your mind, that was wholesome and it was a very good story-based mission.
>>586142246That was just Baxters browsing history.
>>586142192Honestly yeah. Ace Combat has always been kind of silly in many ways and D.D. doing the typical face-too-close-to-the-camera-reaction that people do feels so on-brand with that unintended silliness that AC's known for.
>>586142246>MODS PLEASE STICKY THIS THREAD THE PEOPLE NEED TO SEE THIS>fuck off retard
>>586141751In 2 Usea had a war that fucked them up.Between 2 and 4 they had a meteor that fucked them up.In 4 they had a war that fucked them up.In 7 they had a war that fucked them up.They have constant wars. Yuktobania can fight back. Usea is the cripple continent.>>586142057Imagine watching the stream to see the cool guys fighting a submarine and it cuts to some guy dancing around congratulating himself on how cool he is.Bro we're here for the submarine fight!
>>586142103sovlless homunculus >>586142192sovlful real human bean
>>586142279>>586142501>>586142643though I do also think that it might get dangerously close to being obnoxious if it overindulges on the hopecore theme, especially since 3's intercorporate war is right around the corner and a hopeful take on 3's future wouldn't feel right
>>586142718>Wow glad we took down Enso, sure hope a cyberpunk hellscape ruled by corporations isnt just a few years away yeah great ending guys, we really stuck it to those corpo scumbags
>>586142718For me it honestly makes it even more interesting.ABSOLUTE HOPE before the deepest unescapable abyss
Is the muffled shadow theme that played here in the OST? Name?
>>586107320>>586107731g-guys please, I put a lot of effort into it I promise it isn't low effort slop
>>586143257github? is it in quiver launcher?
>>586143257At least make it fucking accessible
>>586143337no github because I'm paranoid nintendo/bamco is going to start cracking down and suing this stuffwill add to quiver launcher, had no idea that was a thing>>586143689also just realized the uguu links expired lolrecomp: https://h.uguu.se/yYrqwsmB.7zsource: https://n.uguu.se/VUQirudH.7z
>>586143737Downloaded them both. After i watch the unskippable 2TB of dolphin porn is it just plug and play?I need to finish the WT grind first and then i'll check it out
>>586143737>nintendo/bamco is going to start cracking down and suing this stuffThey can't take down just the translation layer engines. People don't ship it with the game isos. And even if, at worst you will just get a C&D
>>586143889yeah just launch the EXE and it'll ask for a disc image in ISO, RVZ, GCM, WBFS, WIA, or CISO format>>586144039big corporations do all sorts of thing they aren't supposed to be able to do with their IP all the time
The heavy gun is genuinely terrible to use, imagine having a good angle for deflection but the enemy flies between your rounds
>>586144143They haven't managed to shut down classic emulation or piracy in several decades so stop schizoing.
>>586143737Ah fuck. So we need an .iso of it, but the only torrentable copy of the game has 0 seeders.
>>586141483If you are still shooting things with one individual machine gun bullet, you should recognize that different planes have different guns that have different rates of fire and different damage per shot. I'm saying different damage before fighter/attacker modifiers come into play.The rates of fire are setup so that everything ultimately still has the same dps. Except for the A-10 and Su-25. Those two simply have guns that are twice as good as everyone else.
>>586141483>>586139276It sort of works out if A2A bonus 1.3 for multirole is actually 1.2 and the 2nd A2A bonus for F-35 is actually 1.15 like in F/A-18E.A2A bonus 1.2 for fighter is then actually 1.1.
>>586144268https://vimm.net/vault/?p=list&system=Wii&q=sky+crawler
>>586144279Those two planes have the same guns.
>>586144384>open link>my GPU starts emitting mustard gas
>>586144461ok nigga then find it yourself. Use duckduckgo or yandex for piracy related searches
>>586144384>download speed capSee you tomorrow I guess
>>586141723Cute
Just finished my second playthrough last night. Story was just as peak as the first time. The Shadow 22 had me literally sweating lol; I had less than 3 minutes left in the mission, I was out of missiles, and I had only 300 rounds of machine gun ammo left.Time for Ace difficulty.
Buddies I just ate some steak and it tasted a little funny
>>586144623Do you want me to make a torrent after i download it?
>>586145212I wouldn't mind seeding that yeah
>>586144965Good job buddy
900.
404...theres that number again
>>586145212>>586145263I'll do it as soon as i download. I also have 1GBPS in upload so you should be able to download it instantly since you'd be the only leecherI'll post the magnet here in about 5'
>>586145486I also got a gigabit internet with unrestricted upload so I'll keep this seeded as long as I can.
>>586145397>900.A number...
>>586145397Wonder what were they huffing when they designed the NR and Geopelia
>>586145486>>586145696>>586145212it should workmagnet:?xt=urn:btih:82B9F0F1EEA9CCEA4F3DA248B40E1ADCB6966034&dn=Sky%20Crawlers%2c%20The%20-%20Innocent%20Aces%20%28USA%29%20%28En%2cFr%2cEs%29.7z&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3a80%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.opentrackr.org%3a1337%2fannounce
>>586146012They're Busemann biplanes
>>586122093 The Crew 2 did it, but some time later added the option to buy it with a shitload of free currency (zollars equivalent) instead.
>>586146269Had to test it out with another torrent but yours doesn't seem to be working.
>>586126560>1488... another number.
>>586146592Strange, you can even see me as a Seed but it seems we have a connection problem between us
>>586146592Anyway I'll just keep this running until it eventually works somehow or some shit. Maybe other people can properly download and seed.
>>586146772I am torrenting over a VPN so I gotta wonder if that's the problem. But I hate the idea of torrenting over my actual IP.
>>586139409Is there any reason to bother with weeklies if I maxed the ace pass?
Man the enemies on elite dodge so fucking much
>>586146925>>586146782I dunno, i can seed other torrents just fine Ports are open and everything
>>586147194bro... your gacha tickets...
>>586145168Sure it wasn't onions meat made by Enso Order?
>>5861471943x supply tickets, worth it if you're already playing most of what's asked, but ain't nobody playing 5x attacker AND 5x EW man
>>586147890I almost exclusively play attacker and EW
>>586147890You underestimate how powerful that shit is when your team comp is good. A Barricader is widely seen as a must-have to shut down the enemy team, and there's no way to win a match without an attacker.
>>586146925>>586146782tested with a friend and it worksmight be the vpn
>>586147969Same. Everyone wants to play air superiority so I always end up locking last and filling what's missing
>>586139493
Ace Combat 8 is quite possibly the only game in the whole series where you're left with more questions than answers. If 8 is the new AC5, that would mean AC9 would be a prequel explaining what lead to 8. I'd love to get a title about the Sotoan-Yuktobanian war, with Tasha's mom and a younger Tewy.AC9 is pretty much all but guaranteed to be an Electrosphere game, which I'm also hoping for big time, but I wouldn't mind spending a bit more time in this setpiece we got going on. A prequel DLC sounds highly unlikely.
YOU FUCKING SON OF A BITCH
>>586146592>>586147401>using torrent protocols to transfer one file to one personI swear to God, you two.
>>586148058Well that's fucking weirdIf other people can download and seed but I can't then it definitely is my problem
I love commiting justified atrocities
>>586147890It lasts until the end of the season so it's not that hard to get five games with each in. Assuming you have the planes.
>CST limited TDM is backTime to ignore every other cancer gamemode for a week. Wish this shit was permanent.
>>586148338ethical exchange
>>586148182>minor spelling mistakegod DAMN IT
>>586148431What's this week's limit?
>>586148441>FTP>IRC quick send>fucking email evenSo many options that take so much less effort.
>>586148536EW CAR FT LOLLMAO
>>586148859don't make fun of me ;_;
>>586148945>he can't spell or crop correctlyget a load of this nugget
>>586148945Chat kek at this man>KEK!
>company changes their logo>it's soulless
>>586148945It's alright you're a nugget afterall.
>>5861486182000. Not as good as last time, but still beats unlimited.
>>586149270Is that total cost or base cost?
>>586149161>forgot my image
>>586148945>no Flying Hexproof
>>586149161>ZOVLEZZVS.>ZOVLEZZit's GR after all
>>586139493I do like how Alpha 1 has the black skin while everyone else looks normal. They have that squad look going.Unless they actually are a squad in which case holy shit stop.
>>586142858>>586142718>we took down EnsoHow many of their executives are behind bars?
>>586149365It's total cost. 90% of the playerbase is just tomcats and miggers so far. Seen like one F-22. Presumably with not much on it.
I decided that the rounding is too significant with guns. So missles it is.>ADFX-02A10C: 255 pointsA10C: 319 points (x1.1 Missle upgrade)A10C: 331 points (x1.3 A2A upgrade)A10C: 363 (Both upgrades)>F-16CA10C: 319 (Inherent Fighter bonus)A10C: 382 (x1.2 A2A upgdrade and Fighter bonus)It seems A10 has an inherent score multiplier of 6.38. Base missle deals 40 damage>40 x 6.38 = 255.2 pointsMissle upgrade is actually a a 25% increase in damage instead of 10% mentioned in the database website.>40 x 1.25 x 6.38 = 319 pointsA2A upgrade is 30% as claimed.>40 x 1.3 x 6.38 = 331.76 pointsThe way upgrades stack seems odd though. It's a %42.5 increase. That means there's some diminishing returns built in. The second upgrade is only half as effective.>40 x (1 + 0.3 + 0.125) x 6.38 = 663.66For F16, the inherent fighter bonus is already 25%.>40 x 1.25 x 6.38 = 319And you get no diminishing returns when the first bonus is inherent.>40 x 1.25 x 1.2 x 6.38 = 382.8
>leveled my 14a up to 20Do I just bite the bullet and level the D up to 20 as well?
>>586125858you shoot down yellow 9s barely flying damaged plane and kill her in cold bloodISAF changes the briefing music to a new hype tune
I guess there's no reason to uncap the ea-18 when I have the barricader unlocked
>>586151301ecm their iews, esm to counterattack
CERTE! AETHERA DOMA! UBIQUE, O UBIQUE!VOTA RELICTA IN POSTERUM SERITOOOO
anyone else notice pixy does a half immelmann when taking off?
>>586137775it's even funnier in 8 when you realize that cope and the player can hear certain things on the radio, but ray can't
>>586150878No, the 14A can hold its own perfectly fine thanks to HVAAs. Get a better plane instead.
>>586151113It's a complete victory for the good guys!
>>586150728What if the MSL upgrade is 25% when it's the only upgrade but drops to 10% when paired? That would explain the "diminishing returns" as you'd expect 1.1 x 1.3=1.43 (+43%) increase.
>>586152112That results in too high a damage:40 x 1.43 x 6.38 = 364.936But the in game result is 363. So the multiplier has to be at most 42.6%. You can get to that value if the second buff is halved, in the case of the missle buff, that'd be 12.5%, add that to 30% and you have 42.5%.40 x 1.425 x 6.38 = 363.66That falls more in line with what the game says.
>>586151841I really like how hyped up the AWACS guys get. It always makes me smile :D.
Has anyone noticed the Sotoans are a thematic parallel to Wings? They're LARPing and we're LARPing. But we "become real" through the hope for life (Hand of Hope) whole they fail through the fear of death (Terminus Fingers).
>>586152820Still makes more sense than the alternative, which is that the bonus is halved and applied additively while with fighters the bonus is applied multiplicatively. Guess we need a fighter with MSL upgrade to confirm.
Imagine an assault mode that's so crowded you'd run out of missles, and we'd advice people to put on the mod that gives them extra missles.
>>586154254At that point just slap on LRES and gun shit down.
>>586153187sotoa is also centered around being moon-themed while ray is sun-themed (the bombers in wings of wax flew too close to you, ray, the sun)
>>586154126Does anyone have uhhhA level 8 F-22A level 14 F-15CA level 11 F-14DA level 17 FA-36To test this? I know some of you buddies are invested in the F-15C at least.
Finally
when the fuck is the update coming out?
>AC8's overhauled SAAMs let you use them for ground poundingThis is hilarious.
i don't get the sotoa impressed meme
>>586077225How big are the differences between Aces at War 2019 and 2029? is it still worth reading 2019?
Is ECM making invisible a bug or a feature, buddies?
>>586154678You'd need a fighter with both a2a and missle upgrades so F-22 won't do. The others should work though.
>>586154821Muy bueno
>>586155223I actually think that invisible missiles aren't caused by ECM, but by the enemy plane's stealth level.
>>586155272>F-22 does not get Air to Air attack modificationlol.>Its special lvl 20 ability is a strict downgrade compared to the Su-57's lvl 20 abilitylmao.
>>586155468They must've intentionally made it shit so when they bring F-22A -Trigger- and F-22A -Mobius 1-, people will reach for their wallets.
Fatsia honestly feels like a huge missed opportunity. It's simillar to the platforms in Fleet Destruction but not nearly as enjoyable because you don't even need to worry about having the right angle to hit the pillars, whereas in FD you actually needed to sort of tunnel run them. Also, FD had an actual fleet and more fighters to engage. Overall Fatsia's just underdefended and too easy to take down for it to be a truly great mission.
>>586155468should've built better planes
>>586154821I only have the MRP grind cheevos left. Yeah nah I'll skip on this 100% for now,
>>586155937???if you did 6 campaigns you would have the achievements alreadyhow did you do the elite + ace + 4 silly ones (fighter, strike, multirole, ews) and not have the MRP?
>>586155787Have you considered just not bringing an SOD every time and doing it the "hard way" on your own instead of needing to be forced to, you autistic sperg?
>>586155223it's just dogshit japanese netcode
>>586156113I meant 100% steam achievements not all the medals. I've done 3 full playthroughs now (initial, all assault records and S rank Ace) and I don't even have the 16mil MRP cheevo yet.
>>586148156lmao beaten housewife behavior
>Instalock Rafale>Can ground pound>Can laamspam>Can dogfightOmnirole supremacy.
>>586155937oh fair enough sorry
>>586150728In the interest of expanding our knowledge I also tried this with a lvl 20 Barricader(MSL upgrade and MSL Upgrade - EA-36).EA-36 (MLS upgrade) 15%255 * 1,15 = 293,25achieved points: 293MSL Upgrade 10%255*1,1 = 280,5achieved points: 280MSL Upgrade 10% + EA 36 (MSL Upgrade) 15%255*1,25 = 318,75achieved points:319So maybe something fucky is going on with the Morgan. Or maybe something went wrong during your tests.
>>586154647Oh nice catch. The sun & the moon are classic symbols of life & death respectively, again playing into the Hand of Hope and Terminus Fingers.
>>586156770>plane that is only good in AssaultGood for you man. I hope you're having fun in the kiddie pool.
>>586154821Felicidades
>>586157584Why does her top look wet?
>>586156359fatsia is a joke even with normal missiles
>>586157095More testing with Mirage-2000 GUN Upgrade and Anti Air Attack modificationGUN:15dmgno upgradesA-10C 98 pointsGUN:15dmg + GUN upgrade(20%) + Anti Air attack mod(30%)A-10C 147 points98 * 1,3 * 1,2 = 152,8898 * (1,3 + 1,2) = 147,00Still not sure why some mods stack additively while others stack multiplicatively. Maybe it's just the inherent fighter bonus that stacks multiplicatively.
>>586156770>can dogfightmaybe against an attacker or if it encounters the rare low tier multirole
>>586156770>He fell for it
>>586157707idk that's how the material was set up
>>586157095Hmm, interesting. So it looks like ability multipliers are definitely additive with each other. Really odd to have diminishing returns in one occasion and not in the other though.>MSL Upgrade 1.1540 * 1.15 * 6.38 = 293.48Achieved Points: 293>MSL Upgrade 1.140 * 1.1 * 6.38 = 280.72Achieved Points: 280>Both Upgrades40 * 1.25 * 6.38 = 319Achieved Points: 319Question is, which one is the outlier, Morgan or Barricader?>>586158656I guess Morgan might be the outlier then. I'll fuck around with it some more to see if I can notice why at some point.
>>586157236>>586158829>>586158830>openly admitting to having a skill issueWhew, I didn't know Rafale also had a very powerful shitter radar.
>>586159529My man, multiroles trying to multirole is just not viable in Warfare. The only value they have is if they're LARPing as either attackers or Fighters, focusing exclusively on either ground or air. Doing both at the same time does not work because of how the ace point multiplier works.If you're multirole-ing then that means you're just stealing points away from your actual attacker.
>>586140694Because the point wasn't to just expose Enso but to also punish and ruin the FCU for daring to humiliate Sotoa
>>586159341I think you're better off ditching the 6.38 multiplier and just looking at base points without upgrades and then points with upgrades for each weapon. Trying to break it down by exact damage dealt just leads to more rounding errors.
>eurotards trying to shill their useless shitboxes againwhy are gripenis and rafags so embarrassing
>>586140017It's mostly like two guys dickriding Ventus for being "honorable" and a handful of bleeding hearts waifuing that retard Messiman or whatever her name is
>>586156770yeah but it's ugly
>>586159959Shut the fuck up nigger, the thread does not need play by play commentary. If you want to respond to someone use the reply feature.
it's cope and theve, not cope and seethe
>>586140620>the Shadows made me lose any potential sympathy I may have had for the Sotoan and firmly locked me on a path of leaving none alive.After "It's a matter of interpretation" all bets were off no mercy, when the guy running Fastia threatened everyone with slavery I knew I made the right choice
>>586148336Just finished campaign...i am amazed i actually S ranked the final mission on Veteran despite embarassingly crashing due to stalling out once.Wasnt expecting to have to blow up Toprak twice due to game crash...
>>586159853On the contrary, you get more rounding error if you base it on points since 255 base points isn't actually what you're getting, it's already rounded. So when you work off of that, you're working off of a less accurate value.6.38 multiplier isn't exactly correct in all situations, I reckon it's more like a base value + multiplier to calculate the score, but in a controlled situation of throwing missles at an a10, it's accurate enough.Maybe I'll find the exact calculation though, should be possible with the variety of targets available.
>>586159174It looks quite strange like she is wearing latex.
>>586141751>And if that was the case, why tf didn't they invade Yuka then?Yuktobania is like six times a bigger country AND one of the worlds two super powers. See all the shit Sotoa fielded? The Yukes could field far more destructive shit> And not a completely unrelated 3rd party? >Fucking pussies.Pretty much. Basically they were trying to emigrate the entire population of Sotoa to the FCU and had a pretty good thing going but the FCU was too busy trying to corporatize while the leaders of Sotoa were RETVRN fascist types and opted to take the whole cake with slaves on top at the urging of Enso Order
other than "hey remember the chick from the previous game? :DD" what was the point of that mission with the crab and sun boats
>>586159720That's not the point, the point is that you can just blindly lock in Rafale and larp as either attacker or fighter depending on the rest of the team composition. It's sufficently good at both roles.
>>586142279The mission was DOGSHIT but D.D. almost justifying social media was worth it
>>586160689From a meta perspective its definitely a low stress mission after Mission 14-15 before it picks back up again after that
>>586160852>it's low stress after one of the most boring missions in the game
>>586160689The point was to establish the importance of the space elevator for nuggets who are new to the series so it's more meaningful when the land battleship threatens it a couple missions later.
Something I just notice...whats with both the Savians and the Alicorn SACS squadron piloting Rafales and both having a repeating mantra...
>>586160648
>>586156359Nigga Fatsia literally has "shoot me to kill the entire arm" tanker ships sitting right out in the open. Basically a casualized FD.
>>586161191Ngl was half expecting her to being a fully gimp suit after that but yeah that looks more natural.
>>586161320>typosI need sleep
>>586160790>it's sufficiently good at both rolesNo it's fucking not, especially if you just instalock it. It's actually kinda shit at both roles since it doesn't have any damage modifiers for either air or ground and LACM is not good enough to fullclear warfare maps. As the primary attacker you're aiming for 160k-190k points as long as you never die, the Rafale simply cannot do that even if the entire enemy team is constantly zoned off you.
>>586161621Nah I'd win
>>586159529https://ac8-database.pages.dev/hangar/compare/Go look up a fully built Rafale's maneuverability stats. Compare it to other planes. Hell, compare it to the fucking Mirage. It's an all around horrible airframe and gets almost zero useful buffs from its abilities. Literally the only good thing is its Sp.W selection letting it snipe both air and ground kills. It can do well in Assault with that. In Warfare where you need to hard commit to A2A or A2G, nah.
online is coded by a bunch of retardsthe "fix" to my problem is to play a campaign mission before being able to play onlineit'd be stupid if not that it works
>>586162305>Has one of the best yaw accelerations>The best roll accelartion of any multirole, more than some fighters>Same for pitch accelerationDon't tell me you fell for the turn rate meme anon, acceleration is what matters.
Will Team Aces ever be brave enough to give us prop plane AC?I miss Heroes of the Pacific for PS2...
>>586162853First of all rate matters a lot. Second of all the Rafale is ranked 11th at pitch acceleration, not exactly impressive. And it has shit abilities and nothing that buffs its pitch accel, unlike actual fighters which have abilities like handling boost or top speed boost(which for some reason also massively buffs rate and accel for rotation).And the rafale has no damage boosts and misses out on the fighter buff so its LAAMs can often not oneshot red targets. And its LACMs are pissweak because they just don't have the AoE to fullclear maps.
>>586163679>Whaa I don't have an ability that increases my pitch by 2%Stopped reading right there. Who the fuck cares. Stop with this minmaxer mentality. How you play will matter way more than a slight turn rate advantage.
Hosting a public scramble right now
>>586164117So what does the Rafale actually have? 2 LAAMs to kill red targets, mediocre stats, horrible abilities, and LACMs are kinda just useless in warfare.What does it actually have aside from good looks?
>>586141059To be fair the reason the Belkan war started was because they fucked up their economy with reckless military spending (With some help from good old Osean fraud) and then got mad about it
Is it weird that...while yes I was deeply moved by the whole everyone pitching in to help in M28, I felt nothing much from blowing up the LARPing show off? I felt the impact seemed to be lower than some earlier missions
>>586165359Because by the time mission 28 rolls around you know the Shadow's are all frauds
>>586164412I couldn't find your scramble but I found an emergency sortie while looking, thanks anon.
>>586163180PA did make Sky Crawlers: Innocent Aces, not Strangereal but still fantastic and full of prop-era shenanigans.
>>586165359he really needed more appearances throughout the game like Mihalyyou see him in the prologue, in the rio bajo cutscene, a 10 DFM """fight""" and at the end with some comms appearances every now and thenthey fumbled what should've been a cool rival by making the same mistake they did with the Strigons in 6 where you fight their unit all the time but they're all fucking jobbers instead of the main guy who is a threat
the endurance is based off a modernized Essex classSex is canon in ace combat, and the FCU is poor as fuck using modernized ww2 carriers
>>586166482Basically, he's a flying "POTENTIAL" rival guy who you never truly get to dogfight until later.
>>586160672What the fuck do Yukes got? They weren't impressive in AC5. The Scinfaxi and Hrimfaxi were stolen/copied Usean tech from AC2, and the Arkbird and SOLG are also hijacked Osean/Usean weapons. The Grey Men couldn't be even be assed to bless em with Belkan Wizardry.
Maxed out the SFFS ability for my Frogfoot, went back to practice mode to measure bomblet spawn heights again. I don't feel like testing 15/17 bombs because I don't think anyone's realistically running only Submunition Casing 1 on their Su-25/F-15E, or doubling up on Casings instead of slotting in Liner 2.
AC9 should be a belkan pilot laying waste to both superpowers, always on the run with many famous aces coming to stop you, setting the stage for total corporation dominance.The twist is you are a brain in a jar and the "voice" inside your head (like cope) is the ZOE ai inside your planeYour callsign is V3
>>586168303>belkans>relevantYou ""people"" are slaves to history. Why can't you move on past your failures and work towards making what's left of your ruined country better? This is why all your best minds went to work for Osea (Grunder) and Erusea (ESA).
>>586161621>Muh min-maxxing modifiersNot that anon (obviously) but do you retards not understand that multiroles at least do NOT incur a penalty on any type of target? Have fun pumping 4 standard missiles into any aircraft as an attacker or one SAM site as a fighter. Metaslave faggotry should be grounds for hanging at the gallows
>>586168628firebombing oured is non negotiable
>>586168821Why would you be shooting at air targets in an attacker or ground targets in a fighter? This only ever makes sense in Assault, it's straight up wasteful in warfare even if you didn't have the modifiers.
>>586168303If we are going to get a Belkan protagonist its going to be playing a Belkan schoolgirl who dominates every ace she comes across because her soul isn't weighed down by Strangereal gravity.
>>586168821>Have fun pumping 4 standard missiles into any aircraft as an attacker or one SAM site as a fighter.This is a dumb comparison. No attacker is shooting aircraft (except maybe helicopters) and no fighter is groundpounding when every single air target is worth more than the pittance of score individual ground targets give you.
>>586156770Sexiest fuselage/nose of any aircraft not named the F-16 Fighting Falcon
Right which one of you fucks commissioned this? Own up!
>>586169069What do you do once you run out of targets you specialize against? Idk about you but at some point I need to address the opposing team thats harassing me with Barricaders, Morgans, and LAAMboat du jour after building up such a score.
>Playing war thunder forcefully because of FOMO event>Already coping about it>Finish into a shit match, entire friendly team vaporizes>Coping and seething almost>Just me and a lawnmower bombernigger left>Coping and seething and malding>My automatic YT playlist queues ACE COMBAT 8: WINGS OF THEVE Main Theme - Everflow">MILLIONS MUST HOPE>CAN'T LET DOWN MY BUDDIES>Enter in a 1v4 dogfight>CERTE! PER CAELUM VOLA! ESTO, LIBER OH ESTO, LIBER!>Win the 1v4>Proceed to hunt the remaining 3 Gemma's>WinThank you ACE COMBAT
>>586169581If you've managed to fullclear a map as an attacker without getting killed you've scored 170k-195k points depending on the map.At that point you've more than done your job and should just crash to reset your star bonus and then join your team in dogfights.If you're a fighter and you've fullcleared all NPC air targets then just go after enemy players, obviously. There's no reason to starts shooting ground targets at that point.
>>586169691>post on wtg>mention ace combat>expect a 1:1 overlap with aceg because planes>get nonstop seething replies calling ace combat a tranny game (???)what did you do to them?
>>586169961I did nothing to them, they have always been like thatThey just call everything tranny. Even in their own game. They don't really like planes. They are mostly DCS fags that didn't make it so they need to lash out on objectively superior plane games by coping themselves into believing into some retarded elitism
>>586169581>What do you do once you run out of targets you specialize against?This isn't happening as a multirole in warfare, because they lack the damage multiplier to get through warships of heavy howitzers quickly enough. Relevant attackers (Su-34, F-15E, Su-25) either have the mobility to dodge missiles and potentially get on an enemy's tail, or are the Frogfoot which dies if allies don't help. F-2's not meta but it's nimble enough to at least deny kills, A-10 and A-6 suck and you should feel bad for anyone who fell for the trap.
>>586169065Stfu Char
>>586167192Enough to cause Sotoa to ruin and rape their country to build up enough weaponry to keep them at bay
>>586169961/wtg/ is the most deranged of thr /vg/ flying game generals, even moreso than DCS. You might actually find some common ground with a DCS player, but War Thunder players, like actual long term mains, have been driven completely insane by their Russian gachashit turbo fomo """game""". There is no hope for them, and any mention of any other flying vidya at all will make them start screeching and flinging their shit at you.
>>586169961>>586169691>>586171025AHAHAHAHAH
>>586164896can't you just equip missile damage parts and make it oneshot
>>586169961simfags are mentally ill and never get along with arcade players no matter what genre of game it isthere is no hope of reconciliation
>>586172381How about you actually play online before asking such a stupid fucking question again?
>>586171025/wtg/ are the Sotoans of /vg/
>>586172524well sorry for not fucking owning and raising Rafale because I actually value my time.
why does the nigress in chief say "sotoan" with clear disgust in her voice?
>>586173185It has nothing to do with the Rafale. There are no SPW damage boosting parts in Online, only abilities.
>>586173297Wouldn't you?
>>586172474That always bugged me. I'm both and I know multiple people that are both and we have lots of fun playing arcade and sim versions of game genres.
>>586173328huh? That's weird, guess that's another reason to not bother with multiroles
>>586169961If you play war thunder long enough, you become that sort of person, no outside influence needed
>>586173614SpW have no damage bonuses or maluses, they work equally across plane classes
>>586173732>those who spend long enough on the wtg start to think they are invincible>i bet you do too buddy
>>586173614Multiroles can be ~okay~ if they get the anti-air attack modification which somewhat makes up for lacking the inherent fighter bonus. The Anti-ground version is much worse because attackers get an inherent 50% bonus unlike fighters which only get 25%.In fact if inherent bonuses stack multiplicatively while ability bonuses stack additively multiroles with Anti air mod do 30% extra damage to players while fighters with anti air mod do 32%, so they're very comparable.The Su-47 is a perfectly serviceable SAAMboat but trying to take UGBs and act like a proper multirole is just pointless.
Is it weird that we hardly ever see the captain of the endurance?
Is it weird that we don't hear anything from the president of the fcu?
>>586174119He's bald
>Decide to use the Morgan in Wings of Wax>Fully deck up all speed mods>Can actually keep up with the Ladons and maintain TLS constantly>Able to destroy one by the time it makes the first pass and make short work of the secondWell then, anons got any other cheesy suggestions on how to provide correction to the Ladons?
>>586174631so TLS is no longer shit?
>>586173996>In fact if inherent bonuses stack multiplicatively while ability bonuses stack additively multiroles with Anti air mod do 30% extra damage to players while fighters with anti air mod do 32%, so they're very comparable.What stacks multiplicatively and additively, anyway? Parts and Abilities appear to stack together multiplicatively, otherwise full-stacking blast radius parts wouldn't give it a bigger blast radius than MPBMs.
>>586174850TLS never was shit no idea why anyone would be saying that?
>>586174960it sucked in 7
>>586174960TLS in 7 was nerfed pretty hard compared to other entries.
>>586175196>>586175217Well in AC8 campaign its situational but if you can aim with it kills Shadows and bosses with ease.
>>586174913I'm pretty sure bomb radius parts stack multiplicatively but it seems damage abilities stack additively while inherent role-based damage bonuses then add a flat multiplier onto whatever additive damage stack you have.You could help us test this if you happen to have a level 14 or higher F-15C.
>>586175404>F-15CUnfortunately I bought an F-16 instead. Wanted to buy something out of love since most of my recent purchases have been to chase the meta with the EA-36/Su-25/Su-34 (although I did genuinely appreciate the Fullback in 7, cute little duck).
>>586169581>Dude just run from the human players and crash to preserve your honor as a Bushido sky warrior <<No>>Also post new bread or else I will have to drop a guided munition on your heads
>>586176846Anon this is dumb.If you've fullcleared the map as an attacker the outcome is no longer in your hands, trying to get a2a kills is a nice bonus but it won't tip the scales in any meaningful way. If you're flying a multirole you're not fullclearing the map, and if there's also a dedicated (and non-retarded) attacker on your team you should fuck off and go for air kills because you're sabotaging your team's potential max score. If you're flying fighters then it's not even worth it to bother with ground targets (maybe gun a Heavy Howitzer if you're feeling cheeky on Shilage's second phase) because ground targets aren't worth the points for how tanky they'll be against you.Assault is whatever, map's going to be cleared anyway
>>586177646Honestly I was mostly addressing Assault strategy, you guys were right about warfare, but in true 4chan spirit, I decided to double down on my stubbornness.
>>586177910I mean who cares about Assault strategy, map gets fullcleared 2-3 minutes early every game.
>>586177910Multiroles are super cozy in assault, there's no reason to 'tism over optimizing it because a "bad" plane just means more potential score for others and bigger number means more fun. They're fine in Warfare too, but with how score calculations work you're basically just another fighter unless there's no groundpounder on your team and you've got an a2g in one of your slots.Chandelier and Alicorn soft-require an attacker though (or at least an UGB multirole), because any game you don't hard carry by yourself will inevitably be the one your nugget teammates lose. And who knows when you'll proc another one or how long it'll take someone else to put a party up.
I just like flying my Gripen in Warfare>>586178635You still get 2 gold blueprints for a loss, so as long as you win the other one for the day it's still only 2 emergency sorties to cap out
>>586178635The Mirage-2000 is almost good enough to run in Warfare as an "attacker". Unfortunately it's missing just a little bit of damage on difficulty 2 and 3 to make it wortwhile, but UGB power, Anti-ground mod, and LASMs are a great combo.
>>586178635assault doesn't have the multiplier so there's no need to monopolize points
>>586178890>You still get 2 gold blueprints for a loss, so as long as you win the otherIt's possible to get just 2 from a win. My team shat the bed and barely won one of the super weapon fights and just got 2 GBP. It was my first win of the day. A shamefur dispray with lots of player deaths and seconds left on the clock.
>>586178635>Multiroles are super cozy in assaultExcept that you don't get to play the game if you're not spamming laams or nuking half the map with UGBLs.
>>586178635Oh trust me I know the pain of being the only attacker to show up for an Alicorn match. Last night, I even brought the UGBLs but still only managed to get 45k points while the other 7 players tallied about 50k total in their fighter and multirole shitboxes. Last time I ever do a Pub match for E-sortie
>>586179436works on my ugb/saam berkut
>>586178982I wish the Legacy Hornet had a niche it could shine in and wasn't just an inferior Mirage. UGBs are nice but they're not as dominating as LAAMs, so it's not even cool as a "budget" Mirage like how the F-14D can be a "budget" Mig-31 (minus QAAMs).
>>586179436>he's not flying the su-47 and getting maximum value from his SAAMS by launching at 13km before the laamboats can get a lockSkill issue
>>586174850TLS in 8 is good enough to be a good argument for why it was nerfed into the fucking ground in 7.
>>586179436>not zooming past the initial furball and avoiding green arrow marked targets so you can QAAM bots in peace>not looking at the minimap and avoiding where your duckbacks and streagles are pointing toI mean they're dominant but you can still find things to kill.>t. leveled a Frogfoot to 20 without using a single XP booster
>>586174850TLS was good in 7, but people complained so much about it not feeling like a superweapon that PA listened. Now it's the new EML in terms of power.
$12 got you three planes in 7. In 8 you get a battlepass with one plane for $10. Bamco pls.
>>586180279Bamco saw 7 do 7-8 million lifetime sales and decided to monetize the shit out of 8. I'm just hoping the DLC missions will have cool maps, 8 reuses its maps more than any game besides 3.
>>586180279But you get 3 battlepasses for the price of 2 so it's actually $20 for 3 planes.Not that bad if you calculate inflation from 2019 to 2026.
>>586180279battlepass planes can be bought separate when it's out of season and we haven't seen what that costs exactly
Further testing results:Score from a hit is calculated as such:Score = (Damage Dealt/Max HP) * Plane ValuePlane Max HPs are as follows:>Mig21Bis: 55>Su33: 85>FA18F:70>A10C: 110>F15E: 105
>>586180279>Implying anyone is going to be buying the battlepass when online is already nearly dead
Why was Expo City so important? What'd they do to get a full salvo of spears?
>>586181661it's the headquarters of the UN so it's probably one of the biggest cities in the FCU
>>586156770stupid ahoge
><<Can you doa saturation attack?>>>me, having already swiss cheesed the ship with MGPs: <<More or less.>>
Something feels off with the F-15E I preferred flying it in 7
>>586182469It doesn't have the magical turn rate at low speeds this time around
>>586182469It suffers from a chronic case of "not a fullback".
