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is we getting them catbelfers
Why are these uncs making by dwarf fw skinny jeans fr
>>586122235damn nigga lookin zesty
>>586122235jfc helmets nerf dwarfs massively in 2026 is blizzard really incapable of making a beard pop out from under a helmet?
>>586122124H-H-HOLY SEX!!!
I enjoyed dungeon grinding as Holy Paladin in tibisi, will it be viable in Forever as well?
>>586122124Unironically better than the lazy BElf model reuse they currently have.>>586122531>dungeon grindingAnon-chama...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwhKpEQUZDUFRESH COPE JUST DROPPED
>>586122235>helmet on the right
horde confirmed for unequivocal tranny/furry/retail faction. blue elves were a mistake.
best i could do
>>586122571I'm not giving that vid a click but yes racials DO matter for pve when 1 race in the game doesn't get a dps racial while every other race does. Vulpera and Lightforged Draenei have been fucked on retail for years because of this same issue.
>>586122592/kick/gkick
>>586122470>in 2026 is blizzard really incapable of making a beard pop out from under a helmet?Why do you think they made the helmet model on the right?They obviously fucked up by backporting the assets.In fact they fucked themselves massively when they allowed the HD and SD toggle. It would have been easy back then when HD was new, but over the years, the HD models have had so many changes they are outright incompatible with SD.
>>586122592
>triple spec is back on the menuDude just one more QoL bro. Things are just too inconvenient bro. I should be allowed to do it all, it's my class after all. Look at ff14 bro. If you support dual spec you basically support triple spec too!
gonna play guhnome
>>586122704Give me quad spec.
>>586122680They should just redo Azeroth with completely new HD assets, the 2026 lighting looks extremely out of place with the 2004 models and landscape, nevermind the actual player models.
>>586122235>when you thought midgets look like shit and they make them even worse
>>586122704The respec cost is one of the worst things about vanilla. It does not add anything to you character identity, the journey, or the world. This is one of the things #nochanges faggots can eat a dick for wanting to stay the same.
>>586122704Might as well not even have specs at that point
>>586122704its too unfair for people to have specs, just remove them
>>586122858>gold sink bad
>>586122869>>586122886hehe le edgy snarky leddit humorupvoted!!!nevermind that it makes no fucking sensefaggots
>>586122858One you get an epic mount, specs are the only gold sink in the game. Without it the economy would spiral out of control 10x.
>>586122704Is a full respec a flat rate or does it scale up? If it's a flat rate then I don't care about dual spec.
>>586122830They are unable of producing good.It would look like retail garbage.
Bros should I be an undead paladin or a night elf rogue....
>>586122906t. one spec andy
>>586122235Are they ever going to fix the god awful helmets, shoulders and capes?
>>586122858>muh evil no changes hitlerWe already have dual spec.Why have specs at all then if you need so much more?
>>586122959Considering they plan on making professions actually relevant, or at least they claim to be doing so, I expect that to be a big gold sink. Especially if they tie crafting to materials needed for legendary items.
>>586122973scales up to 50g then it's flat
>>586122652I agree, even that 2% crit damage would've been better than nothing.
Do you idiots really think the average person respecced often enough for it to be considered a gold sink lmao. Acting like respecs kept shit under control as solo farmers and bots farmed away for 12 hours a day fucking the economy.
New black lotus etc vendor IS a gold sink. Before the money was just changing hands, now it will disappear.
>>586122951>another newfag on discord all day has arrived
>>586122704>stopping at triple specWe're one step closer to being able to change that shit on the fly
>>586122704They haven't even told us about when and how much the dual specs will be. Imagine I'd we get tri spec and all the paladins still refuse to heal or tank.
>>586123101hur hurrr hurrrrrrrretard
>>586123063You gotta understand anon, these people are serverly autistic. They'd reapec for 1 misplaced talent point between pvp and pve.
>>586122590This is the weirdest sample group ever. Shaman the most played class on alliance, beating the horde? When its just dorfs vs 4 horde races that can be shaman? Ridiculous
>>586123096think idiot thinkit's the price cap for auction houses for that specific ingredient, nobody is going to buy it from the damn vendorall other ingredients not available at the vendor will now bear the brunt of inflation
>>586122951Reddit would be wanting all the obstacles of the game removed and replaced with QoL features, reddit-kun.
>>586122704>triple spec is back on the menusauce?
>>586123017As far as I know they only fixed the juggernaut helmet.Also apparently I've heard that your character slightly shrinks when running.I really hate the skinny bowlegs tho. They look like a kul tiran not a dwarf. I think the arms are longer too.
>>586123212Those beta graphs are an IQ check basically.
ALEXENSUAL RUNS THIS GENERAL
>>586123212on the other hand it's a new class to the faction, so it makes sense. the what are you playing on gay beta with gay tournament samples were skewed. and notice the hunters are way down, too, as the question is what will you main, not what are you going to level to farm and quickly experience the game. i think it's extremely accurate.
>>586123212is it a survey?surveys are extremely fake and gay, like most data, except worse
Anyone else in favor of every class having 1 craftable legendary, it just requires serious investment
>>586123313those aren't beta graphs. the beta graphs are on the AI generated websites and show literally opposite numbers where everyone is playing hunter and no one is playing shaman.>>586123374statistics don't care about your feelings, migatard.
>>586123394It depends on what you mean by serious investment, but if it's maybe one legendary a year with serious commitment I'd be fine with it.
>MFW I see a lone skelf in Orgrimmar
>>586123394Would actually make the game hella p2w if they did that.They also already tried this in Shadowlands and it was one of the most hated systems ever put into the game.
>>586123426im not a migatard big guystatistics don't care about anythingand most of the time, people use them to fool themselvesespecially anything "self-reported", what a farce
>>586123447all skin and bones and full of hot air
>>586123446>>586123479I mean it takes mats that would require either like 3 months to obtain or an entire guild funneling resources to it, and it's BoP obviously
>>586123394Yes and No. Its nice to have long quest chains with good rewards but you cant be handing out legendaries easily or it cheapens the idea of them. Also they wont be able to balance the difficulty for each class and some will be welfare legos and another will be month long investment.I also don't like the idea because if it becomes the defacto best in slot for the slot then it affects the design space a lot.
>>586123525That's just how most legendaries work in general
>>586123492Soon full of zuchini
>>586123565That was only really Shadowmourne onward
>>586122973I think the first respec is 1 silver and it slowly increases every time
>>586123649That was a change for the beta, it starts at 1 gold I believe.
>>586123394A really strong, damn near BiS epic? Yes. Legendary? No, i think legenadries should be saved for lore shit
>>586122590This cant be right why are there so many fkn warlocks on horde ? I thought it was the least popular class to play Ive main Warlock since 2019 classic this is bs fuck that gay dueling tournament and the fotm rerollers
legendaries are hella gay
>>586123706No one will finish getting a lock to 60 when they realize they're the group's portal and stone bitch. Oh and that one curse that amplifies magic damage for their superior Mage companion, who will get gear funneled so the raid can be "farmed" faster.
Can't decide between orc warrior and troll hunter to main. I like orc vibes the most but I want to bully allies in RPVP
>>586123394No thats gay and retail.I dont think every class should even get a class specific epic weapon like benediction or rhokdelar. Maybe add a rogue dagger or something but not for every class, its not classic to homogenize every aspect of the game so that nothing feels special
>>586123785do orc hunter
>>586123785UNDEADMALEROGUE
>>586123785hunter is a much better bully class imo
>>586123785As a warrior you'll be the one being bullied in world pvp
So if I'm going warrior tank, engineering is non -negotiable right?
>>586123785low level mage will just nova, sheep and laugh at you if you are a warrior
>>586123394sure, why not
I'm having a really gard time picking between Dwarf and Troll Warrior.On one hand I like Dwarves and the alliance is getting all the cool stuff like access to DalaranOn the other I also like Trolls, the regen racials seems fun and if we ever get Goblins they're probably going to be Horde.
>>586123916Eh, Thunderclap is pretty good at holding aggro. You don't NEED bombs unless you're playing with actual shitters that aren't targeting your target. But Engineering will still probably be the best profession for extra DPS anyways, so you might as well.
>>586123916What makes you think that
>>586123916every class needs engi if you are tryharding
>>586123916If anything its much less mandatory now that they buffed thunder clap out the ass
>>586123394it shouldnt be class specific, instead a mainhand,2h, staff or bow.
>>586123916brother warriors now generate threat in an aoe just by existingtanking in forever is a full meme
>>586123785orc hunterez pick for pvp
>>586123973why not leave it up to fate and see which faction pops up first when you make your character? if you don't have plans to play with people on one faction or the other the choice is basically meaningless.
Just me or spamming Scorch doesn't seem very fun?
>>586123916you are mazed hard. classic was a solved game which is why you were able to just pick one profession. they will add wow token in forever and make people like you change professions every patch.
I just want to play man
>>586123973both get the 5% beast racial. The dwarf +hit is nice, id take that over the troll health regen
>>586124018I mean let's be real, a dagger won't be a spell dagger
>>586123916get to 60 first then decide you'll quit before then like all the shitters here
>>586124115just have 2 versions of the dagger, one mellee, one casting
>>586124165I have several lvl 60s on classic... How is it any different now
>>586124108
>>586123394Fuck no. That would completely kill the purpose of teamwork/raiding/MMORPG.
>>586124089its a lot of fun in bgs.
>>586123998Yeah I thought so
>>586124089just u FAG
>>586124113It's mostly about flavor. +1% hit is useful but boring, regenerating in combat is fun and it seems to actually help while leveling.
>>586124249What if it's like Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker where some of the components only come from specific raid bosses
>>586124034>>586124006>>586123975you guys are trolling that anon or is TC really that strong in forever?
I will hit the bong before i raidlead and will hug the agi totem for my feraltank so no windfurry for you parse bitch
did somebody say Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker
>>586124301you'll spend less time eating to recoup health in between pulls which is nice time-wise
>>586123394no. legendaries are gay every single time they're not rare. i don't care how much serious investment it takes. pvp rank gear requires serious investment too and it's also really gay once every single person pvping has it.
>>586124370well it only hits 4 targets but it will sure keep them off the healerbut you won't be holding a bunch of targets while aoe pumps them at least without more effort
>>586124319Hmm, so classic legendary, but all classes get a unique one? I guess so. I mean technically in Vanilla all classes HAD a legendary except shamans. Even hunters and rogues can wield thunderfury and all casters and druids can get atiesh.
>>586124249>>586124319>requires materials from dungeons/raids that are BOP>requires materials from very difficult elite only zones that cannot be solo'd in a reasonable manner, also BOP>requires gold sink via items that only other professions can craft>>586124370It's pretty good now that it can be used in Defensive Stance and has a relatively cheap rage cost with talent investment.
>>586124370understand that prot warrior is now a levelling spec with the highest dps output until your 30s you get your whirlwind axe or something equivalent
>>586124473>s-surely it will be better after 30.. >we just.. didn't see it in the beta.. >believe bros..
>>586124276what's the leveling spec then? frost? arcane? both?
>>586124370Its good but its also the entire prot spec thats so good that people are actually leveling with it now. You just get so much rage as prot, and TC is usable in prot and scales with attack powerYou should still tab sunder and revenge between targets, its not retard proof but its much closer to a TBC or wrath warrior tank
>>586124635tri spec
>>586124115A melee dagger could be fun, or really stupid, if it had some weird effect where it changed its properties depending on who was wielding it or how it was wielded. Like if it was haunted or possessed (unoriginal, I know) and refused to allow non rogues to use an offhand with it but compensated with higher stats and slower speed to mimic being a 2h, or just up an had 2h stats if you didn't dual wield or use a shield/offhand with it.
>>586124635frost in most casesarcane is good too if you are on pve server and dont plan to aoe
>>586124635i leveld my mage with reduced frostbolt cast time and reduced time +range fireblast, basically
If every class had its own profession like mages have comprehension and rogues have poisons and lockpicking would it make classes feel more or less homogenized?I was thinking of stuff like bushcrafting or foraging for hunters, crafting trophies out of your enemies' remains such as shrunken heads or fang necklaces for warriors or carving alternate appearances for your totems as a Shaman
>>586124473They really have a hardon for prot warriors this time around, huh. It's like they're desperate to make certain they're running while leveling and warriors don't have the excuse of being arms or fury.
>>586124730pretty much what i thought >>586124668kek thought about this as well but missile barrage is row 2 now
>>586124580People where already mass pulling mobs with infinite sustain on prot warr in beta.
>>586124761and it looks like they moved improved fireblast down the tree,, lame. just go frost for lvling
If I want to play on a ruleset that stays alive the longest, should I go PvP or PvE?It has been observed that PvP always survives the longest, but looking at the beta stats and people posting here, PvE might actually be the case for Forever?
>>586124812Honestly it should have been always like this. Warriors are the purest tank class in the game but the game always discouraged going prot spec super hard by making you do pitiful damage in it, much worse than paladins or ferals even
I'm tempted to level as fire just so I can have 41yd fire blasts and boop alliance then run away
>>586124935you wont get ganked in pve so..
>>586124812Can't wait to group with 3 "dps" prot warriors for dungeons.
>>586125003Do you really think any Prot Warrior is going to let another mail/plate wearer into their party?
>>586124952fire is very mana intensive early on so bring mana pots
>>586125056
Which is the best class for solo world pvp while leveling and why is it marksmanship hunter?
>>586125056Yes because nobody else will take them
>>586125076also go alchemy so you can get the mana regen campfire buff
>>586123228man, it's so unfortunate that blizzard cannot make any changes to wow foreverif an item is not available at that vendor and price skyrockets, there's literally nothing they can do...
>>586123394Every gear should be able to be legendary. One legendary per class per year that is of a different slot from the last.Every legendary piece as strong as the other legendaries even through the years, the pinnaccle gear you chase.
We have to talk about the racials. Horde racials all need buffs across the board still, if Horde aren't the dominant PvP faction how will us dadgamers be able to PvP????FIX FOREVER, DON'T LET THE ALLIANCE CHUDS WIN
>>586125191>>586125076its ok bro im aware of mana
>>586125130or sub rogue
so if warrior doesn't need engi, what profs do you take?
>>586125331what would your character do
>>586125331Every single class will want engi. It is still stupidly overpowered compared to all other professions just like in classic.
>>586125212
>>586125331Im just going mining/blacksmithing for the crafted leveling gear because hunting for ore is nostalgic It will probably have something nice to craft at level cap too
>>586125290average hordecuck player>15k horde soys per video crying about the racials
you'll invite me to the asmond layer.. right anon?
>>586125290omg we need to talk about this the situation is CRAZYdramatubers are so fucking gay
>>586125331blacksmithing is complete bullshityou can make bis bop blues that will last you for 10-15 levels for the price of a couple of random greens
>>586125292oh ok so you're aware that fireball costs 5 extra mana than frostbolt. cool my bad. il just shut the fuck up and not answer questions
>>586125331>so if warrior doesn't need engithat is not what anyone saidit is the best you just dont "need" itit's still the only actually useful profession at 60 as far as we knowunless they add new shit, which they might
>>586125416>>586125479Yeah I'm definitely going to do BS to at the very least get the 100 skill level 20 blue helm that will last me until SM.
>>586125469shut it alliance shillhorde racial needs buff stat!!
>>586125290""content creators"" will act like the most insufferable faggots as if it's their life mission then wonder why they're relentlessly hunted down if they even think about rolling pvp or flagging.
>>586125390people have impractical expectations and want a lot of things. streamerbeta is a poor representation, nobody is giving you a mountain of gold to shit away on mortar and nades. engineering on fresh is a noob trap and you will not be taking my ore.
>>586125486what questioni didnt aski know about mana potion, but ty
I don't care if only 400 people would play it: I want TBC Fresh NOW
>>586125538We have over 20 years of vanilla to know that engineering is the best profession. The streamer tournament has absolutely nothing to do with it.
>>586125615i didn't say it wasn't the best. i said it was stupid to pick it on a fresh server with a billion players.
>>586125594can't do that yet sire, we are still pushing massive balance changes
>>586125292>>586125583BASED
>>586125331Bro pick tailoring and herbalism if you like them, who cares?
now that forever is dead and the hype is gone and everyone knows it'll fail bigly, what is next for blizzard?
>>586125583i thought you were the anon asking about what to level as with his mage. nvm
>>586125538Mining is going to be super contested, but engineering sure is going to make it extremely profitable if you can manage to get some ore early and just hold on to it for a bit before people suddenly have some gold to spend.
>>586125653nobody is saying they r gonna pick it while leveling though
>>586125615we have 20 years of thinking warrior is best dps, and look at them now, lmao
>>586125696Cope.
I wonder how many days it will take me to be able to create a character on EU horde pvp...
>>586125696Idiots will, blow all their questing gold on copper-iron level materials, then act shocked when they can't progress past that point because of how much it cost and they realize they want their mount more.
INVITE TO ALEX LAYER
what profs should a hunter take?
>>586125723show me who said they are getting it while levelingthe whole discussion is about "what is best" but mostly people are talking about 60ofc getting engi while you level is for noobsyou are just autism dumping while pretending to yourself that you're correcting people, but actually nobody said anything wrong>>586125772yes but nobody actually said that here did they? everyone knows that noobs will do that and the same shit with blacksmithing bops, oh well
>>586125801skinning, leatherworking
>>586125857don't they get mail?
>>586125678hopefully being shut down by activision
>>586125904yes anon I believe they do
>>586125904LW covers mail in the form of scale armor.
some anon said there's a balance patch coming soon; there a source on that or was he larping?
>>586125801Hunter is probably the best candidate to go engineering or herb/alchemy for leveling because you dont need any gear to level, your pet will solo 1-60
>>586122571he makes a lot of good points thoughbeitoptimal racials save 1 seconds on a 2min encounter, and we have more mana regen now so going oom (the main concern) is mitigated
Transphobic chud here How do I get an cute ingame transwife. Preferably gnomeAsking for a friend (me)
>>586125723Hardly anyone will be leveling professions during 1-60. It is still a huge waste of time and gold despite the devs best efforts to make them worthwhile with bop gear. We also don't know all the endgame recipes yet, which gives people more reason to wait until 60 to actually care about primary professions.
>>586125904You're gonna lose your mind when I tell you what armor they can make at skill 185+.
>>586125968we've had balance patches almost every day this week so the odds are high
>>586125968There will be a massive patch on release but they wont show it in advance
>>586125970there is no good candidate to get engineering while leveling
>>586126008Are you French by any chance?
>>586125801Mining/Engineering, to make your own guns and ammo, and you can get jumper cables to res when your friends wipe and you feign death like the pussy you are.
>>586126008I will transition just for you, what class do you want the gnome to be?
>>586125968He's making an educated guess with the "maint" and how the changes we keep seeing are datamined from the updates the client has gotten a few times this last week.
>>586126071You can make good money selling that one gun that Horde players need for the Ashenvale quest.
>>586126087what if I wanna RP with crossbows
Is pvp rp worth it being my main realm?
>>586126131what the hell do crossbows have to talk about
>>586126017Did your favorite youtuber tell you to skip professions so you can speedrun 1-60 faster?Really living up to the wow forever idea. I bet you skip new zones too just to grind mobs in once place because the routes arent optimized for new content
>>586126131You can xmog a gun into a crossbow.
>>586124224Leonidas no need to rub salt on anon's neetness
Mobs should give no xp.Quests should be the only source of xp.
>>586125994He does and I posted it to help myself and others cope. My speedrunner friends all went alliance for 2% better racials and there is no shot I am playing a faggy elf or gnome.
>>586126204>he's going to get left behind when raids come outI'll be laughing at you then like I am now.
>>586126232>using transmogs on RP serversthat's some next level bullshit
>>586126269This.The experience from combat is the skills you increase.Also magick school skills should have returned.
>>586124319It's gay when all legendaries can only be made from raids.Raids are already loot pinatasWhere dem grinding dedication type legendary gear atExtremely difficult mage tower like solo or duo extremely long quest chains with a lot of materials needed
>>586126308The brainrot is fucking real
>>586126309Newsflash you're not an orc either
how can I join a guild that is so tight that will be doing raids for months for sure so I can be sure I'll be getting my loot as I deserve it?
The rp servers aren't even real role-playing for the first few months since half the player base on those servers will rush to a specific level for their "character concept"
>>586126372yes that's why i'm roleplaying a greenskini dont want to roleplay a greenskin gun slinger roleplaying as a greenskin arbalest
>>586126440Join a /vg/ guild
>>586126308>get to 60>raids come out>wont be able to do them because you didn't take the time to level up your profs to get prebisscreenshot this post.
>>586126017>waste of timeBOOM THERE IT IS
>>586125331Engi has a blink enchant to belts. If you don't see the value in that as a warrior than have fun getting kited. Charge still doesn't work in combat btw
>>586125469i love laughing at these fucking retards alread crying that blizzard doesnt pander to their parsing shithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDkICDIWn-Yliterally guy crying for 10 minutes that windfury totem doesnt go raidwide and he has to settle for agi without his shaman being forced to twist
>>586126490>t.
>>586126519I don't give a rat's ass about PvP
>>586126490
????Do you niggers just play this solo?Raising professions can help your leveling group
>>586126547unfathomably based
you are laughing, horde players are not able to create their wholesome poc-inspired characters and you are laughing
>>586126580My what now
just make enough alts so you can have all the professions, duh
>>586124683Wouldn't be worth it unless it lets you put 2 poisons on it
>>586126580what the hell is a levelling group
>>586126580all professions except lvl 20 LW for tents are waste of timeBut personally im going to be skinning shit so i can lvl LW to 300 for legacy points
>>586126017why is the "I must speedrun to level cap ASAP" mentality so prevalent?what causes this? microplastics increasing estrogen production?
>>586125479the only thing BS doesn't do is weapons but armor crafting is nutty
>>586126601server balance was never a thing in vanilla.
Join <FUN HAVERS> at launchALLIANCE NA PVE>literal who gm (no cliques or power trips)>only rule is you must have fun or else>will raid with fucking whatever / wheneverhttps://discord.gg/TNTkQTpdVD
>>586126601>just because i've been working 12 hour days
>>586126657ntabut im speedrunning so I can gank lowbies as an undead rogue
>>586125290Look I'm just glad it isn't anAI slop thumbnail, he's going for manual slop
What's the most RP weapons kit and pet for an orc hunter ?
>>586126440If you don't mind rolling Alliance on the Rp-PvE server, <Daybreak Company> is an upcoming casual raiding guild. Our raid times are 530am-830am CST. Soft reserve loot, no DKP or loot council. We are recruiting all classes/specs, and hope to do both 20 and 10 man raids. Discord link is in the OP if you're interested bro!
>>586126601The life of a wagie is pathetic. Truly fucking pitiful.
why don't these would-be horde pvpers just roll on a Normal realm
>PVELOL!
>>586126745wolf
>me warrior>my friend enh shaman>my other friend (female) disc priest>my free week code going to a second account so i can play the AH, snipe items, DE shit, and then level whenever I have down time from flightpaths/dungeon group forming/when my friends get tiredIf you aren't doing all of this, you might as well wait for next Fresh because you already lost.
>>586126580This is a general full of antisocial casuals. Only like 5% of the people posting here have ever been in a raid.
I wanna join clover club but I don't have a character concept other than mage trying to become an arch mage
Last time I played was classic. Are rogues still op in pvp or did they buffed them even more?Are paladins and warriors still kinda limp in world pvp?Any class got anything which makes its playstyle significantly different? Any off-the-beaten-path builds?>pic unrelated
Coffee makes me poopWould that make it dangerous for leveling
>>586126580I hunt alone!
>>586126806Accounts on free week code can't trade or use AH.
Why can't blizzard do this?
>>586126871Now let's see it in motion.
>>586126827its a funserverpaladins are metawarriors are close behindhunters own everything unintentionally againrogues virtually are unchanged while everyone else got massive beneficial changes
>>586126871cope alleytroony
>>586126862Bummer, well then I'll just pay another goysub as I'm not poor.
>>586126871For every 1 good dev at blizzard, you have 20 that are the pinnacle of incompetence.People will say it's "hard" to make this work, but that's not a fucking excuse with the amount of money they got off the beta alone.
>>586126580my levelling group is called restedXP
>>586126871I prefer the orc in the middle
the fact that i can't make an elf paladin has negated any interest i have in playing this game. why would someone make an tranny elf druid if they can make a night elf druid. not enough thinking was done before making this game.
>>586123621>atiesh, valanir, shadowmorne, dragonwrathbased>thunderfury sulfuras warglaivescringe>mop/wod legendarieskill yourself now
>>586126871Small indie dev
>>586126871they did it in wc3, it only took them like 3 different tries to get it right
>>586126871Because people let them get away with it.That's why..
>>586126871Funny because Kultirans from retail look a lot like the guy on the right.
>>586126965ok
>>586126657The game just rewards levelling.
>>586126871the human in the middle kinda looks like esfand doe
>>586126871because much like every modern reboot and rework, the new artists and writers feel the need to redo everything even if it makes things worse. otherwise they are just wagies and not truly craftsmen.
>>586126725I do actually work 3 12s but it's at a hospital, those hours are just normal here. I envy the one dude who does 2 20s and then gets 5 days off (though 1 is between the two work days)
>>586126871The undead male model is still fucked up too
>>586126827Minmatar are always related when talking about pvp
>>586127090can't relate, 40 and never worked a day in my life, but good for you anon, you sound like a responsible and well adjusted individual.
>>586127090In what fucking shithole country is 20 hour work day legal
>>586126712good thing this is not vanilla then
>>586126269>mobs give no exp>every mob drop different unique items that reward exp but can only be used once
>>586126989What was wrong with the rogue daggers
Bros.I'm conflicted on my second profession for my Warlock.Tailoring is a lock, 100%But my second profession, at first I was completely sure Enchanting is the way... but at the same time I feel like it's a bit of a waste because I'm going to make a lot of alts and Enchanting can't really help my alts due to them all being on the same account.Maybe I'm overthinking this and I should pick up enchanting regardless, but I dunno.I can't really think of what else to go besides a gathering profession like herb or w/e.What do you think?
>>586127189i think every country in terms of hospital work. i pull 20's on vidya all the time, what's the big deal
>>586127249rip
>>586127092Everything about the models are fucked up somehow. The eye glow on undeads and nelfs are fucked on SD and completely out of place. The eye highlights on HD models (the white circles to indicate light reflection) are completely off. The animations are fucked. The jiggle is gone. The SD models don't even look like classic because it's just the textures stretched over the HD model. It's all fucked. This billion trillion dollar company, who has been keeping Xbox afloat and is Microsoft's current big money maker somehow just can't make brand new HD models in classic style. It's fucking pathetic and we should demand more from them. Especially after the beta and how much money they made with the 30/60/90 dollar packs.
how much am I going to regret rolling priest on rp-pvp
>>586127189it's legal everywhere. there just needs to be a reason for not hiring more people, ie limited space. oil rig, astronaut, submariner, etc.
>>586127246just get herb or engi
>>586127189He's legally required to have a day off in between to rest but he chooses that shift, no one can force that one on you.
>>586126775because their guilds are going pvp, faction balancing system is retarded on sharded realmsJust make sure
>>586127237I never did dragon soul I don't know how you get them.
>>586127315just stay caged & set ur lovense vibrations to heal crits, youll love it
Ohohohoh, uh oh! wife aggro!
>>586127167I dont think I am but I try. I'm the graveyard guy for xray so I'm basically just on my phone until someone comes into the ED and needs xrays
I was going to roll on a PVP server but then I realized that sharding and megaserver will destroy all sense of community. On a regular server there’s a sense of community even with the other faction, you see Grubnar multiple times when you’re leveling, now you’ll just see him once and either fight each other or move on your merry way and never see him again. There’s no possibilities for rivalries.
>the jiggle physics retard is back in full force
>>586127246warlock hereI am leveling skinning+nothing then switching to what becomes meta
>>586127426why is it never husband aggro?
>>586127189If I could fit all 40 hours into two days, back to back, I would 100% do that easily. I would even work weekends. Having 5 days off a week sounds like bliss and I fucking hate having to go into work 5 days a week just to be a warm body.Also fuck lunches. Lunches should be opt in. No, I don't want to have to spend 1 extra hour of my day unable to do anything but eat and scroll my phone pointlessly. I would rather just go home 1 hour early. A work day should not be more time than your free time, but with a 1 hour lunch you work 9 hours, sleep 8 hours, and only have 7 hours for yourself (but it's not actually, because now you have to shower, you have to commute, you have to answer phone calls from work, etc so it's more like 5.5 hours to yourself a day). On my days off I don't shower, I don't leave my house, I don't do anything but game.
Hunter or warlock if I only plan on doing pve?
>>586127383Count yourself lucky, Spine of Deathwing is a gigacancer fight
>>586126914Nigger it's already fucked.
>>586126926sounds like something a rogue player would say
>>586127246Skinning since a lot of tailor recipes need leather as well. Plus nobody picks skinning, so you'll be able to clean up after people when you're inevitably waiting to get kill credit for mobs because there's 1000 people who need to collect 15 boar asses with no incentive to group up since it just decreases XP and having to share those boar asses round robin style.
>>586127496Women don’t play WoW
>>586127415good advice
>>586127161For me, its Caldariwhat you gonna main?
>>586127557what about the gay people? are they all playing XIV too?
>>586126926>paladins are metalollmao even
>>586127447THIS!!!Me as an ex-PvPChad am also tired of being ganked by entirely new people 24/7 wherever i go. Sometimes it feels i'm just a stuck in a wall in goldshire with a "Free Self Serve!" sign above me it's terrible!
>>586127246Could try Alchemy with the gold you save on your first mount since herbs have less use than the ores blacksmiths and engis will want, and there's always a chance you turn a profit, off set losses, or break even processing them. Mining is probable the most profitable gathering proff otherwise. Skinning would however be very consistent, have no competition, and not be as out of the way as mining and herb can get at times.
>>586127532>>586127479Honestly? I think you guys are right. I remember mulling over if I wanted to ignore Enchanting, at least early on and instead start with skinning.The more I think about it the more I'm probably going to go that route.
>>586127447With the layering technology, it tries to put you in layers with people you've interacted with. So if you attack Anon Ymous, you'll be more likely to see him since that counts as an interaction.
personally i cannot wait for the crisp sd skelf models
>>586127415Ouie~ yes sis slayyy
>>586123621glad i got a valanyr before people stopped caring about leggos. got a lot of congrats carrying mine around town. meanwhile all the shadwmourne people just got insulted.
>>586127653the feathers seem kind of unnecessary
>>586127653>xe thinks we're ever getting sd models for nu-contentkeky
>>586127415but where do i get the addon or plugin for that?
>roll a char>play it until about lvl 25 - 40>roll another charHow is this pattern called? Also what should be my third class after hunter and druid
>>586127704they're literally the ONLY cool thing about the new race, those hairstyles having feathers in them is pretty and justifies their race infinitely more than anything nightborne
>>586127415I feel raped knowing some degenerate is getting off like this whenever they heal me in a dungeon.
>>586127748but they confirmed it.. somewhere..
>>586127803altism
>>586127803its called being weak willed since that's about where the difficulty starts slightly ramping up
>>586127623to add more info to this>undead>rush imp quest>sell items for skinning dagger(equip it)+training+the 25 copper skinning bag that goes in your reagent bag slot that's all in the starting area>vendor all the skin I get for free money>at 60 you need black dragonscales for your epic mount (from ubrs) and can probably make some gold off of high level skins
>>586126580I lvl with some irls, but they're kinda slow so i lvl them all aswell i guess including fishing and cooking
>>586127803altoholism
>hello, we're here to ruin yet another version of WoW with our cancerous site
What the fuck is the point of giving someone 7 days of gametime if they are restricted in what they can do? They can't trade? But this is a friend code, meaning they expect you to play with a friend. This isn't the level 20 free trial on retail, this is 7 days of real game time. Might as well just open a ticket claiming you want some gametime so your friend can give you gold for a wow token for 7 days in a row (this used to work back in legion/bfa before I quit, don't know if they still do it). And then the code only works for the first week? What if my friend can't play that week and wants to try it on week 2 or week 3? What kind of kike shit is this man?
>>586127803Low attention span / ADHD I guess?I have it too. I barely ever play any games to completion, anon. I just keep rolling alts. I've got some games that I've played for thousands of hours that I've never reached endgame content on once because I am straight up ADDICTED to rerolling alts.I just become detached from my old characters and I can never get back into them.It's so bad that I often times reroll classes that I already have... just because I enjoy starting over again.Seriously what the fuck is this? Is it like the most advanced autism of all time?
>5 days>still no idea what faction or class or race to play
>>586127996sasuga
>>586126204You don't need a video or a guide or whatever to figure out professions are still a waste of time to do while leveling. It is still much MUCH easier and faster to wait til 60 then level them.
>>586127803luckily for you blizzard knows you are their target demographic and you will now be rewarded for your indecision.
>>586128021You've had over a month to think about it, come on
>>586128006then do that and stop being an obvious retard
>professionsmining and herbalism since we won't be able to safely purchase gold this time
>>586126308>left behindcringe, are you 12?
>>586127748They announced them on one of the streams, retardo.That pic comes from it.
>>586126657why is this "I must level slowly and be inefficient at all times" mentality so prevalent?
>>586127704I like them :3
>>586128021time to spin the wheel
>>586128108i don't want to play something overrepresented and popular but my favorite underrepresented and unpopular classes are now sod-reversed and super fucking popular it's making me miserable. rogue i guess.
>>586127590As much as I love firing lots of guns at once I always ended up gravitating back to Caldari too for the missile.I'm going Rogue.
>>586128115What is retarded about it? When Blizzard used to give you a few days of gametime for events or whatever they were promoting it was real game time. There was no restriction on what you could do or how high a level you can go. Does the free week even let you get 60?
>>586128182It's not, though?
>>586128193Perfect tits
>>586128120Didnt they make profession nodes much more abundant in forever too? So going mining/herbing means most of your gameplay will be chasing after yet another peacebloom or copper node
>>586128193you look cuteshes green only?
>me when I reach 60 and realize I'm the only one playing warlock
>>586128193go ontype in that nameshow us0.2 seconds after the servers go live i will /who your name, send you a group invite and rape you forcing you to stay as a level 1 cocksleeve for the first three days at launch, falling behind the curve
>>586128193tauren cock only
>>586128274Not really.They just increased them in starting zones.But thanks to sharding it will be very easy to gather loads of endgame rare mats.
>>586128212you're talking about instantiations of the game where they didn't care about the economy and gold buying. pandora doesn't go back in the box, they have to stop massive gold inflation from the start or they might as well give up. if you don't understand how millionaire chinks who run bot farms can use those codes to their advantage with trade/ah access, you are a fucking retard.
>>586128312Not her but is that offer available to everyone?
>>586128115How much are you paid to post here Ranjeet?
>>586128295Get to summoning, you soulshard dispenser.
>he doesn't have 10+ friends playing forever with him
>>586128295WTB summon
>he
>>586128209>>586127590Nothing beats the Amarr gold plating, I love powering up my Paladin and just being invincible
>>586128364So my friend who I gave my code to is basically a solo self found npc that can be fucked by playing with me? That sounds so mentally retarded
>>586123394Hard no, thats exactly the Pandaria/Legion bullshit. Maybe eventually every class gets a legendary they can use, but its not at the same time and its not always craftable.Avoid homogenization at all cost.
why don't cute girls play wow?
>>586128402>>586128442>"sorry, my summoning is on cooldown. won't be ready for another hour"
>>586128483that's right you're lucky you got any code at all you myopic short-sighted little bitch, they should have sent assassins to shoot you in the face.
>>586128006>they can't tradewhere does it say that
>>586126754What the fuck is a soft reserve loot?
>>586128523Woah calm down brownie. Defending corpo jewery so hard you might pop a blood vessel.
>>586128419>got 8 friends>2 insist in playing horde>1 insists on playing alliance pvp>rest with me included want to roll alliance pveAt least we don't have to be selective about who to do dungeons with I guess.
>>586128503We do!
>>586127590thorax for life
>>586128182>speedleveltranny sees things in a "with us or against us" mentalitypottery
>>586128601holy shit
>>586128596people said it earlier in the thread and after a bit of googling people are speculating on the wow forums that the trials will have trial limitations because it's not actually real gametime, it's just access to Forever only.
>>586127936>>586128014wow endgame is world pvp while leveling
>>586128193Just so you know I'm using your character as reference to generate heinous AI slop with which I will use to pleasure myself until launch.
>>586128295Sorry, our guild already has one warlock sign up so the class quota is already full.We only have one shaman tho... Fucking dwarves, nobody wants to be one
can someone make a normal EU guild pls
>>586128730Please share it with the class, thank you anon!
>>586128751warlocks are the highest DPS class in forever, your tralliance guild will want atleast 5
>>586128629PLEASE BE SINGLE
>>586128478fucking amarr scrub paladin playerwarlock beats paladinevil triumphs over your sun
>>586128652what do gallente players main in classic?
>>586128601Basically you get to call reserve on up to two items per raids, or you can use both on a single item to roll twice if more than one person has it reserved. Anything not reserved is rolled MS over OS, and chase items aren't reservable. there's a more detailed write up in our discord but i'm not copypastaing all of it here
>>586129095How does this work with 40 people tho
>>586128629PLEASE BE SINGLE AND INTO KEKING ME
>>586129095>guild will end up applying 20 different rules making it pseudo LC where officers get prio on loot while plebs duke it out for scrapsNo thanks ill just enjoy my LC guild
erpDKP is the best loot system
If you aren't doing shitty pugs with FFA loot you're playing the game wrong
>>586129154It just does. If multiple people SR the same item, when it drops, they roll for it. So if you're smart about it, you either SR something nobody else did (it's public) or trust your luck on something that is worth rolling for.
I despise guild raiding. Unless your are the top of the food chain all you are good for is being grinder for officers to get loot.
>>586129095too complicatedjust have banked points ppl can use to bid on items
>>586129351SR in static groups is the worst loot system there isId rather take just /roll over it. in SR system whoever wins roll first week just snowballs into full bis while other people are lucky to have 1-2 items
>>586129326better yet, just go solo
>>586129380NTA but he just makes it sound more complicated than it is, it's a simple and fair system. >>586129401This never happens.
>Jason Hayes is still around and active on the internethuhif you're reading this hayes hi
>>586129437t. has never used SR with guild It literally always happens
>>586129440Hi
female human magepvpsolo
>>586129507Very ironic post but you're wrong.
>>586129440Yup.The new music they added kinda sucks just like most music on retail nowadays.
>>586129154Same way it'd work in 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 30, or 35 man groups. You reserve any item, if it drops, you get it. If two or more people reserved it, you roll against each other (if somebody spent both reserves on it, they roll twice). If nobody reserved it, main spec over offspec. At least that's my understanding, i didn't come up with the system. I'm just someone in the guild trying to spread the word
Can I be honest with you guys?I want to play. I want to play so bad. I really really really want to play. Out of all the days I've been waiting and wanting to play, today is the worst. I don't know if I can take much more of this...
>>586123447sorry but i went alliance pve so i can see asmond :)
>>586129437>each player calls items into reserve for which different rules apply>concept of MS/OS (lol) yet another layer with different rules>chase items (wtf is this even)>"there's a more detailed write up in our discord">>586129437>it's a simple and fair systemIs this baby's second draft at loot system, or deliberately obscured system which is in fact loot council one?just use this one https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Suicide_Kings
Has there been any mention of changes to old solo dungeon farming strats? Not including mage aoe farms which are obviously nerfed.Stuff like Hunter tribute run, lock/priest/druid mara farming, solo warlock dme jump runs. That kinda stuff
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I NEED STINKY SATYRGIRL GF NOW NOW NWO PLS BLIZZARD I'LL BUY ANYTHING PLS PLS PLS
>>586129716just watch some sissy hypno and plap
>>586129721Just because you're a retard tourist who somehow learned about SR today doesn't make it a bad system.
>>586129807really curious what her butthole looks like
>>586129823Got any actual counterarguments?
all the good guilds use loot council
>>586129807the HOOVES were the worst part of draenei EWWtrolls are ruined solely by their ugly hybrid bird human toes, stop wanting races with ugly feet
>>586129507that's because you sr guidl was retarded and every single player was reserveding the same bis items every raid. If you're not retarded you all take something different the first few times
>>586129878yeah but good guilds have nothing to do with anyone posting here.
>>586128021I'm still not sure which ruleset I'm going to play. Leaning towards RPPvE or RPPvP atm
>>586129401/roll results in items some people desperately want going to people who stuff them in their bank just in case. You'll know this pain when you gear for pvp rather than pve like everyone else, your very good pvp item drops and everyone wants it because "uhhh maybe I pvp it's a bad item anyway so no one will care that I roll". Overall, it results in bad loot distribution as it has no priority in any form.
>>586129878loot council is gay RP
>>586129721>all the non bis loot / legendaries end up being disenchanted because people dont wanna lose their top spotYeah bro all of these loot systems suck and theres a reason why every half decent guild runs LC
>>586129993/roll still better than whatever that system is
>>586129721>chase items (wtf is this even)How new are you friendo?
>>586127803Boxxy walled 20 years ago
>>586129978>>586130002I wont even consider joining a guild that doesnt use loot councilyou simply arent a serious guild if you dont reward players who put the most effort in and produce the best results>gearing up all your tanks evenlylmao
>>586129949Feet are ugly. Hoof are goat. Need more hoofgirls, Tauren alone aren't enough.
>>586129807Girly musk and fresh dirt doesn't stink though.
what profs for warlock??????????
>>586129440wow really isn't that old of a game video games in general aren't that old so most people that made your favorite games are still kicking and are generally reachable
The best system is DKP with some common sense guidelines on ms/os and guild officers that make sure shitters don't stay shitters (coaching) or they get moved out of the team.
Why are the pvetrannies desperately trying to normalise playing a pve server?
>>586130090it's fine zoomers have a new boxxy and she's a based left-leaning chud like asmond
>>586129807She should have hairy armpits and a hairy asshole.
>>586130158engi and tailoring
>>586129949>the HOOVES were the worst part of draenei EWWI want a draenei female to step on me.
>>586130073This item automatically goes to inventory of guildmaster or his e-girlfriend those are the rules sorry.
>>586130045>assuming BiS for a class/build has 0 value for anyone who isn't that class/build>assuming people wont ever make the rational choice for suiciding from lower ranksur stupid as fuck
>>586130194>new boxxy is another used up hag that's been around as long as boxxy do zoomers really?
>>586130194Shoeonhead is a millennial and shes been around for ages
>>586130116i really wish the tauren looked prettier, i will say honestly the hooves look less ugly to see than the troll feet
>>586130090and?
>he actually thinks his resto druid heals will not be sniped in the raidLmao, I'm sorry for you bro. I've played it in tbc and it fucking sucks
>>586130158skinning/LW (for 5% rested xp hourly) while leveling just bank all your hides and lvl LW to 300 with overworking legacy point talent.After you hit 300 LW at lvl 60, drop LW & skinning. Go mining/tailoring until you have banked 300 engi. Drop mining and go engi&tailoring
>>586122124HOLY SHIT PLS YES
>>586130191DKP results in insider agreements between certain groups within the guild in order to use as little DKP as possible for some items to save it for other items.For example a class agrees let tier pieces go for min dkp so they have more dkp for non-set pieces that other classes want.
>>586130245>used up hagyou will NEVER be a beautiful bald biological woman>>586130280yeah but she's been more popular lately and i don't imagine a bunch of old people popped out of thin air to watch her
>>586130158>>586130210engi tailoring does sound bis, wonder how i'm gonna make goldsurely you can solo some dungeons as demo for some gold somehow
>get a preview of those changes going out in about 20 minsRIP survival lmao
>>586130329Why would you level LW to 300 just to drop it? Just make an alt and level it on that
Skinning/LW or Herb/Alch for druid?
>>586130158as other said, engineering and tailoring are your only *real* options. Anything else is just gimping yourself.
>>586129949The unguligrade legs, tail and horns is what made them interesting.The exact opposite of what autistic furfags prefer - grafting an animal head on a human body.
>>586130387thanks for the gold kind stranger. don't forget to subscribe
>>586130192Are you normal if you don’t choose the normal?
>>586130396optimal gold making meta will be factory of lvl 35 chars with dedicated study. You can make 20-40 essences a day for FREE with 10 characters
>>586130396sell summons
>>586130073that's a zoomer term. those were called rares, back before gacha games made rares common.
>>586130424LW/Alch funded by fishing.
>>586130201nah.she looks like the kind of girl that shaves to let smells flow freely
>>586130367No system is perfect, but thats still better than the faggot loot council doing that.You can put other rules into dkp like point decay to prevent people stockpiling too and the officers establishing a guild culture that encourages spending your points to help the guild collectively.
>>586130419Its easy 3 legacy points for barely any work
>>586130461>10 characters with 5 maxed out professions each>freelmao
>>586130158mining and herbalism.
>>586130469*hands you RMT gold and gets you banned*nothin' personnel kid!
>>586130396>how i'm gonna make goldfishing crates
>>586130553loot council is literally perfect and the only way to distribute gear
>>586130564leveling professions will be a joke with overworking, people seriously underestimate how good +20% is
>>586130329i might do skinning/lw into tailoring/enchanting into sticking with herbalism/alchemy since i want to stick to one character and i don't want to raid and idk if the legacy points for pvp are like free or if they're actually hard to get
middle manager types looooove all the various dkp and rules-heavy systemsnot realizing the more rules there are the more surface for unfairness and perverse incentives and outcomesimagine being in a guild led by middle managers
>>586130659Nah its fuckin gay. I'm sure it works great when you have the perfect unicorn guild leadership, but good luck finding one of those without being burned multiple times in the process. Better off using dkp and making sure the guild leadership is filtering shitters and assholes out of the group, which is easier to achieve for the average guild leadership and relies far less on personal bias
is it weird that i keep making female characters and imagining them as a hermaphrodite?it probably is weird, right?
>>586130685Do you even need professions if you just want to farm the essences? If you have no professions, it has nothing to add skill to
>>586130878
>>586130878all female characters in wow canonically are trans so its not weird at all
>>586130878It’s normal I think
>loot council is THE system
>5 more daysbros I can't hold my load any longer
>>586130045>half decentwhat's your scale here? Parsing or speed running, lmao. My guild is 70% method players (at one point in time) and we're doing SR this time because it's easy
>>586130878Nah I do it too. Or maybe we're both just weird, who knows.
>>586130553Loot council is legitimately the only fair system so long as the guild leaders are transparent and chart out who gets what if it drops beforehand and the guild holds them up to it.This is why large raids are important, if the entire guild quits because the officers are just funneling gear into themselves they will never recover enough members to raid again. Its entirely possible to crawl your way back when the raids are just 10 or 20 man.
The best way of distributing gear is to simply roll for it
>>586130878it's super weird, you're a freak, no one will ever like you, that's why you should add me and only erp with my female skelf because no one else would tolerate you
>>586130895>>586130967top 50 classic guild is half decent
>>586130967>My guild is 70% method players
>>586131006This but unironically
>>586130759it doesn't really matter since blizzard isn't somehow going to magically start caring about rmt so you will enjoy your oligarchy and cronyism in this version as well.
>>586130878You are just a low IQ porn addict
>>586130461>>586130564if you just only take 1 prof (and no fishing/cooking/firstaid) will it start givong essences after getting 300 with that single prof you think?? or will you need 5 profs
>>586131105based on tooltip wording you will need 2 maxed professions and all 3 secondaries need to be maxed
i think i cracked the guild egg by saying that only a girl would play a holy priest and she said "really?!" in that desperately hopeful manner
>>586131056he doesn't mean the guild. he means like they dress up as the characters and behave as if they really live in azeroth. sometimes i go in my backyard and dig up rocks to smelt.
>>586131154lmao yeah just max that on all your alts bro, easy money!!
>>586131105essences are mostly worthless now, this only exists to get the last couple of levels to 300 for free
>>586131317>he doesn't know he's playing world of altcraft's final form ngmi
I strongly believe Vellums should be a thing in Forever and any argument I've heard for them not to be a thing are lame and gay.
>>586131346Yeah bro , new gear definitely wont require any essences!
What goes on here?
corrupt loot council clique is fucking cringewhat are you soft reserving huh you don't even know what's going to drop lmao
>>586131251whats an egg
>>586131525titans' experimental zone between the deserts
>>586131525>hidden goatseAnd here i thought NuBlizz didn't still have it!
>>586131525farming fire essences
>>586131525that's where Sneed's Feed and Seed store is
>>586128601What it actually is:A loot system that gets inplemented after the first weeks a raid being open where people can pick 1-4 items including ores, binjous from zg, mounts etc. to have a priority roll on.It becomes really good when most people dont need much anymore to give peopl reasons to join a raid or if you're in a guildrun and you only need 1 item where as the twinks need all items you can get that item usually while they usually prefer others.Its literally better and more healthy for the game as DKP
>>586122124I WANT TO KISS THOSE FEET, WHY FOREVER DEVS WHY
>>586131525bambam bambaaaaam badabaaa baba ba bammmm.
>>586131520Yeah bro , it's totally worth spending a legacy point on a skill three tiers down in an useless tree which has a 1 day cooldown that generates 40 silver!
>they want you to make a bunch of alts>no heirlooms
>>586131625what happens is that everyone reserves the items that are hardest to getso its no different from need rolling
>>586131525https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtR26kU9EAY
>>586131756Journey enjoyers, your response?
>>586122124We were robbed. This is what we should have had.
>>586127803What* is this pattern called?
i like the skelf orange hair but i went green instead because i dont like how strong colored the orange hair feathers are..
>>586131525mining and ganking
>>586122124catgirls were promised to us 3000 years ago and yet blizzard still denies us our birthright.
>>586131923u can take the feathers off i think
>>586131758No that doesnt happen. The people who only need 1 item go for their item, the people that need all go for their gearparts, the fullgeared go for gold value items and the special itemguys like zg enchants go for the enchants.So everyone has a reason to enter and get what they want.No rogue is going drakefire talisman when hes 3/8 t2
What weapons can shamans use?
>>586131923you can change the color of the feathers
>>586132035ofc they go for DFT, if rogue T2 drops they just roll against other rogues for it
>>586132031yeah but i like the feathers, they're cute, i just wish either there was a lighter orange hair feather or the "white" skelf hair was actually like a bleach/platinum blonde/off-white/actually white instead of being like the light pink color it is, i like the feathers matching the hair
>>586132140I dont know why you even argue that system is in place and standart for over 6 years now and functions perfectly, its really not a matter of your opinion
>>586132035you are clearly one of those guys who gets taken advantage of since you dont know how to play the systemyou only reserve the item that is hardest to get, everything else comes naturally while you try to get the rarest drop
I'm straight up not going to talk to any sky elf.
>>586132202Yes we all know LC just works, but why are you shilling these meme rules that are pseudo LC that end up breaking guilds
>>586129641Kind of insane how poorly they capture the ambiance of old WoW in the new stuff we've seen so far. That Skelf starter zone is not building confidence.
Forever = main characterClassic = side kickRetail = comic relief baby game
>>586131756good, heirlooms was a cool idea until i realized i would never experience the thrill of getting a new gear upgrade for ~50 levels
>>586132131yeah there's some options but the orange hair feather is a much stronger color and i don't like it, i like the feathers matching the hair rather than looking like distinct highlights or whateveri know it's autistic, really i just wish there was more non-blue/pink options
>>586132274good more trans / sissy agp sluts for me
>>586132086All melee weapons except swords
>>586131756fuck heirlooms, retardyou can get the blacksmithing etc bopsthey are basically heirlooms but requiring gold and some effort
>>586132276There is no guild breaking because os SR, only because of LC narcisists who always just happen to prioritize the lead and his closest friends.If you're guild breaks because of loot in a dungeon you were shitty people nobody wants to play with to begin with
>>586131510>more retoilet racesno
I was supposed the warrior, but just in few days our guild got 3 more warrior sign ups while we are still on no shamans...Should I just pussy up and become the guild shaman again? At least I could still melee as enhancement
>>586132274Same especially since I'm rolling horde. Without a doubt almost every foid skelf is a tranny.>>586132364
>>586132409>polearms
5 days bros.... we almost made it
>>586132409They can use polearms now? That's bad ass.
>>586132449LC is the best loot systemNo one wants to raid with SR thats actually LC because of all the rules
>>586132364forever = main character (not making alts, simple as)classic = i didn't even touch thatretail = haven't touched it since legion
>>586132471Yes.There will be a big warrior oversaturation.
>>586132464Anon vellum is the parchment you use you cast an enchantment onto so others can use it and thus sell enchantments directly on the AH
>>586132449no good player joins a sr guild and the best players will always leave because they spend months raiding for one item just to lose it when it finally drops because half the raid has reserved it
>>586132576oh ok>more retoilet mechanicsno
>>586132471It's a WoW guild, not a career. Don't sacrifice for a team you've never met in person, play what you will enjoy. Just be better warriors than them and you'll have a spot.
>>586132385>>586132445Make some heirloom like system that isn't equipment
>>586132385Same thing now with the new crafting recipes.
Where's the shaman buffs
>>586132471your alliance raid will need 2 shamans, you are lucky to have 2
>>586132649like whatfor what purposelike legacy boints?????
>Ez throw dynamites and even their required materials that are designed for like a level 10 character are now behind a random open world drop faction rep grind... but why
>>586122704You don't understand, I'm a druid, that means I *need* to be able to do everything optimally with no drawbacks
>>586123916Some people are saying that the ideal is going BS than change to engineering on 60
>>586132627You play classic world of warcraft you fucking freak.The easiest videogame that was ever allowed to be played onlineIf you think that "walk left every 30 seconds" is tough shit you are not a good player
>>586132716So it would take you Forever™ to get them.
>>586132628Does retail mean literally anything post-vanilla to you? Vellums were a thing in wrath
For the first time in 6 years I decided to write a comment on reddit about shadow priests, a similar thing to what I posted here some weeks ago.A bunch of people disagreed with me. One was incapable of calculating the damage dealt by shadowguard. One was surprised to learn that shadow weaving is, in fact, a magic effect that can be dispelled and works as debuff fodder for dots.These are the people who deem themselves to be qualified to comment on the game.
>>586132663going to have to disagree, i came across better gear than what i could make in LW / BS by early 20's in the beta
>>586132775even further proof that you are a casual shitter
>>586132823So troll is the best shadow priest?
>>586122590I mean it's not a furry thing if the tauren just fucking rock. The whole experience of being tauren and leveling through the barrens and chilling in thunder bluff looking down at mulgore is peak >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJhQFOhbgR4It's probably the only game I know of that heavily dips into the native american music and I fucking love it
>>586132795>bro lets just remove little social interaction and just a little of friction to make things more automated and sterile that's what people rejecting retoilet actually want brofuck off
>>586123394No retard, thats retail shit. You do that everyone at 60 is going to be running around with legendaries to the point you wont get accepted to group content unless you have your lego.
>>586132385Heirlooms are just twink gear on steroids and rob you of the character journey by frontloading all your dopamine hits.
reminder if you do not already have an established guild or friend group you will not be invited to raids if you are playing a warrior paladong hunter warlock feral rogue good luck have fun guys
>>586132913>bro trading your local enchanting bot standing in org is social interaction
>>586132913Yeah we should change all the crafting professions to require you to make the item for a specific player instead of just listing it all on the AH
>>586132985Thank god I'm rolling Moonkin!
What class are lil gups running?
>bro lets just add WoW Token everyone will just be farming gold anyways bro
>>586133085Priest
>>586132627>no narcissist will be in a guild where it's not a guarantee he gets the item he wants
>>586133098There's 0 downsides to the wow token btw
>>586132471always keep in mind most people will burn out and never make it to relevant content, and of those who do a significant number will also burn out in the relevant content. you should play whatever you want to play, signups don't matter.
>>586132985Aren't Lock and Rogue among the least played Classes?
>>586132823>These are the people who deem themselves to be qualified to comment on the game.Redditors are the message board equivalent of those people who talk when they have nothing to say just because they like the sound of their voice.You see someone ask a question and you get someone responding with "I have no idea but *an entirely different topic*", and nobody calls these retards out, not even just to type "who asked?".
>>586132856You go 2 days farm worldbuffs ye? Then go offline for 6 days so you can clear raid in 1 hour on day 7 and then afk OG, ye?Who gives a shit about what you have to say about the game. Every person in the game will avoid you and your friendlist be empty even after 16 years
>>586133098fr tho people like that would unironically want wow token and gdkps
>>586133125>you are a narcissist if you want to be rewarded for your workjust roll every item then if it shouldnt matter
>>586133085Warrior, prot. The normalized rage shit sounds like a godsend for leveling.
>>586133154depends if blizzard will actually ban gold buying boomers or notif not, then yeah, wow token is actually better than everything being run by iranian gold mafia
>>586133239its understandable that you are jealous of better players but its still really fucking pathetic to seemight want to keep it inside you buddy boy
>>586132907With this gear shadowguard deals 1100 damage on a target with shadow weaving stacks. 1020 if the target starts with no stacks.SWP deals 2900 damage.DP deals 2000 damage. Any encounter with a shadow priest will result in your death if you're incapable of healing or removing their debuffs, unless you lock them down from 100% to 0%.
>>586123003>he doesn't know what inflation is
>>586132964This will happen regardless. You can remove gearscore, you can't remove the mindset
>>586133405i wonder how they will balance spriests in pvp killing people with one dot, they cant even go oom anymore
>>586133405Troll shadow priest might actually get some use out of the regen active racial too, since they have fear to set it up and it saves you a bunch of mana switching out of shadow form to heal and then back in.
https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/pokelinksomeone play this with me pvp horde on launch. post your name, I need someone to trade with. I'll be playing fire red.
>>586133391Really jealous of some 40yo virgin that plays the worlds easiest videogame so he can parse for good stats to get some imagined social validation from looking at high numbers in a contest where nobody participates
>>586133584Inflation is when jews print more money
>>586133323Gold banning does nothing since everyone uses mule accounts. Wow token finishes off the third worlders sellers
>>586133154Damn I wish that video was real though
Why is there no hype for Forever? Classic in 2019 was a major worldwide event.
>>586133279yea you are a narcissist because you think your "hardwork" is worth more than the other players in the raidyou obviously only think about yourself and what you "deserve"
>restedxp>buying gold>starting political arguments in general chat>being racist in guild chat and accusing people of being brown>being toxic to random group members and kicking them from the group at the slightest mistake >manipulating the AH like a kike and screwing over my own community >spending my dkp on pvp gear and contributing very little to raids>if I meet a verifiable foid tell her I can get her raid gear for nudesYep it's time to game
>>586133727nonetheless you are describing a better player.
>>586133864Gaming just not as popular in general. GTA also taking some of the spotlight. But overall Forever is the main release among Real Gamers since Cyberpunk.
>>586122858It's a way to mitigate hyperinflation you dumb retard
>>586133853>implying blizzard can't track down their other accounts if they want
>>586133879This but unironically
>>586133939>GTA also taking some of the spotlight.i'm ready to see the greatest flop of our lifetime, total industry death
>>586133853>Gold banning does nothing since everyone uses mule accountsunironically the average gold buying boomer is not smart enough for this and is used to direct gold buying since 2019 classic, you can absolutely holocaust them if you so desire
>that feeling when I land back in Stormwind harbor for the first time in over 10 years Now how best to find a fun guild and friends
>>586133879we are so back
>>586133154>pickek
>>586128367Depends on your race/class/skincolor
>>586134043There are too many FOMO faggots who will buy the game to make it flop
>>586133864in 2019 blizzard was doing something unprecedented, capitulating to an audience that insisted retail was dogshit. in 2026, it's just the latest in a long line of milking paypigs with empty promises. it's essentially just a new expansion.
>>586133939Can wait for GTA to siphon all the browns and retards away from the gaming space even if for just a month.
>>586132364Forever = main character Classic = nostalgia tripRetail = doomed timeline
>>586133723>https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/pokelinkwhy the fuck would anyone want to play a gameboy emulator inside of WoW? Just play an emulator now...
>decided on alliance pve and made my female skelf so i can see the bald man>realize the alliance males all are retarded looking and gayfuck i never realized how much i like being around orcs and tauren, or more accurately how much i dislike the alliance male races, twink, midget, fat midget (honestly dwarves are the coolest), basic as fuck human
>people realize the classes play like tranilla>Start to cope they'll fix it (3 days from release btw)>redditors are now huffing so much copium they think classes are getting runes blizzard just didn't "add them to the beta"HahahhahaHAAAAAAFell for sod- hope you are ready for daddy aggrend to nerf anything you discover and for the game to be a solo quest simulator by day 2.
>>586134323Yeah now you realize why every female nelfie/humie visits orgrimmar
>>586133639The biggest issue is that the design simply doesn't work for both pve and pvp. You can't just give shadow priests so much power through dots and instants that they're competitive in raiding with them without completely breaking them in pvp. The moment I saw them give devouring plague and death, both very good pvp spells, I could see things going wrong. Here's the quick calculations btw. I added death in the mix as well, without the increased crit talent. Four buttons with no cast time make you deal 7000 damage.
>>586134323Alliance is the faction of fat ugly bastard chuds and it's perfect.
I feel like troll shadow priest will be pretty good>shadow guard blackout procs>mini mortal strike >self healing racial without dropping out of shadow form, bubble to prevent interruption
>>586134317>Bring your own legally-owned ROM!lmao yeah those exist.
>>586134421but the fat ugly bastard aesthetic is kinda already won by those stinky orcs over there.. unless they bring back fat humans, now that i think about how i feel dwarves are the coolest, they're basically just short orcs with cool beards
>>586134389>tranilla>redditors>HahahhahaHAAAAAA>cope >copium
>>586133723Seems easier to just open up mgba myself and then I could play romhacks on flight paths.
>>586134393it's just one of those things you just do without thinking about.. i suppose, i mean i basically always went undead female so not having horde around might actually be really lame
If Blizzard had even one singular drop of business sense left in them they would hire this guy immediately and turn this game into a minigame or an addon or a game mode in either retail or forever. They would make insane amounts of money with almost no actual effort, but instead they will probably send him a cease and desist letter instead
>>586134707kek
>>586134416They won't balance it because trying to balance both pvp and pve in the same level is fucking impossible.One has enemies with 3m+ HP and the other one has enemies with 3-5k HP.Retail struggle with that for 10+ years until in legion or so they finally listened to everyone telling them to split them both.
>>586132628>>586132913You are unfathomably retarded.I swear I don't know which is worse at this point, retailfags or the people who are so mindbroken that they cannot even entertain the idea that for all the things later expansions did wrong, they did MANY things right and to shit on them just because they came from a later expansion is peak retardation.There is no meaningful social interaction from standing in town, competing with bots, not able to play the game, just to sell your enchants. None whatsoever. No other profession deals with this bullshit. Imagine if leatherworkers had to sit in town to advertise that they have a pair of gloves they want to sell rather than just throwing it on the AH and going back out to play the game instead. Vellums were seen as an almost universally good change. Only brainlets like you think that they're destroying the integrity of the game.
Is downranking spells still the meta?
Yes I am taking mining and herb just to farm money.
>>586134707No one is illegal on stolen land!
>>586134721Why hire him when they can just use Claude themselves to make it?
I can't wait for the Pint video nine months after launch.
>>586134830You can have both tracking on at the same time so have fun retard
>>586134813Unknown. We don't know the mechanics because the level cap was 30.
>>586133856>>586134150
>Why yes, I am specced and geared as a DPS warrior.>The group needs me to tank?>No problem. I'll use my faster 2h and use my abilities appropriately, swapping to my 1h+shield if needed. I'm just here to see myself and my allies succeed.
niggas saying alliance will be giganticmeanwhile horde is locked up the wazoo on eu pvpneck yourselves
>retoillet>turtle>tranilla>HhahHHAHAHAHhhahhaahahahHAHAHAHAHAHIt's escalating the closer we get to release.
>this will be the last thing many alliance players see before they meet their tragic end
>>586134707sicksomeone make a blonde brown human and name them xavier renegade or renegade angel if it hasn't been taken already, i think that'd be cool
Why are all the race leaders little bitches? Why do none of them compare to Garrosh?
>>586134908>EuContainment server
>>586134875Because blizzard is incapable of making anything fun. They don't even understand fun as a concept. They try to imitate by using things the previous teams created but they still manage to fuck it up in every way possible
>>586134673I think the concept of trading with actual people legitimately is such a fun idea honestly. If I actually had friends I'd just get them to do it. This is probably the only opportunity I'll have to experience pokemon with other people that feels at least somewhat organic.
>>586134884I can't wait for every single streamer to react to it.>>586134885just use a macro that switches between them brainlet, that and gathermate makes it a cinch
>>586134930Hey, it's got a hole
>>586134803Vellums ruined enchanting profits because rather than competing in price with enchanters on and available at that moments, you were competing with every dumbass who threw 1000 vellums up on the AH for a pittance.
>>586134930does combat break plainsrunning or can they just take hits and keep zooming past?
>>586134930don't you instantly lose all stacks when attacking? at that point what's the difference from just riding with mount?
>>586135009>running around spamming your macro everywhere there might be a herb or a veinalright anon, have fun
>>586134891We actually know spell coefficients already.
>>586134813They want to get rid of downranking
>>586134578>No argumentsKekypow
>>586134813frost and shadow bolt get their downtiers wrecked but healing was left untouched (for now)
>leveling with friends>can stay up longer than them>when they log off i go fish for a few hours while watching yt/tv shows>before bed put all the fish on the AH>wake up to fat stacks of goldcomfy
What addons are you guys actually going to use? I don't want an arrow, but I would like to track resource nodes on the map, track average costs of goods depending on current AH prices, and maybe try that quest voice addon that everyone seems to love even though everyone despises AI.
>>586135001brother, no one is downloading that ai slop, and no one is playing pokemon inside of WoW.
>>586135086>>586135101In beta it would only drop if you got hit, being in combat doesn't matter.
>>586135050I like both systems. It's awesome when you get to know that one enchanting dude who always has the best shit and is always around when you need him and it gives a real sense of community. On the other hand as a consumer of enchants, I fucking hate when that guy isn't online and every single link in chat is missing the enchant I want and then when I ask in trade for that specific enchant I still get retards whispering me who don't have it. That's where vellums make things so much easier.I'm conflicted on which one I want in Forever. I heard Vellums were datamined months ago, but who knows now.
Clover club was a magical time
>>586135107>flick your mousewheel when you're closer to herbs to check>flick your mousewheel when you're closer to minerals to check>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>586135219voice acting addon, if they really added a damage meter that might be the only one desu
>>586135101>>586135086It's like AotC except instead of dazed we just lose the speed. If you can land a hit, taurens are fucked.
>>586135119Downranking wasn't the way aggrend intended the game to be played. So it's only fair desu.
>>586134960its available
>>586135163
Seeing how warrior is popular I guess I will level a druid first since I want to raid.
>>586135295I mean feel free if you want, I tried it when I was a neet and it was insufferable compared to just normal farming so I stopped.I truly don't give a fuck what you do retardanon
>>586134991Enjoy your streamers little guy
Remember when grob had a state senator get a guild banned and had an illegal guild leader arrested for being a pedo?
do any of you pick proffessions out of class fantasy? I like my goth warlock loli gnome to have skinning because she a cutter and always has a skinning knife on her
>>586135332There's a built in damage meter now. I don't know how good it is but it's probably plenty for non-sweaty types.
>>586135119wild to get rid of the only skill/knowledge check on healers that isn't related to playing whack a mole on raid frames.
>>586126717what do you do for fun on pve servers?
>>586135449To the front lines sven
>>586135439If this was classic this would be an obvious troll post but because it's forever I'm not so sure.I can't say itll be exactly the same, but in classic raid would genuinely bring ~30 warriors to raids and maybe 1 druid (for buffs)
>>586130878do you also imagine your toon raping every female character it comes across
>>586135585unironically yes, how did you know?
>>586135394kek nice
>>586135108We don't know the actual interaction between spell coefficients and level. Spell coefficients are generally standard and easy to calculate as they're simply cast time / 3.5 for usual stuff or duration / 15 seconds for hots/dots. Classic included a penalty for downranking for spells of level lower than 20. The exact formula was 1-(20-Spell Level)*0.0375). This was a hidden mechanic. We don't know if this will be extended to a higher level threshold.
>>586135497You can not even touch addons and be just fine as long as you don't have brain damage. Like there are some UI improvements I understand people might want. But anyone pretending addons are "required" now is gay and retarded
>>586135574warriors are still good because they can sunder, rogues/hunters are way worse because they cant even do thatBut warlocks will be dominating dps meters
>>586127996>>586128042
>>586135635I know a fellow man of good taste when I see one
john racist is not taken
>>586135635>>586135585>>586135713
>>586135492that's sovful but i want to max some extra ones to have stuff to do, i did deliberately want to avoid stuff like mining, blacksmithing, and engineering on my druid when i was picking tho
>>586122704such a non issue. 3 spec is pure win
>>586132627my guild is lc and we do sr for alt raids because it's a lot less work and no one gives a shit if it isn't perfect
>>586135701>mains? heh, well apart from catmom, for me it's dk and dh
>>586135701>has a horde tattooyjk
>>586135425Rentfree
you'd probably be allowed to have the die chud name ForeverTM
>>586135585Not her but yes. Male Orc Warrior btw
>shaman is currently the worst performing hybrid in the game >they're STILL paying for bus shock 22 years later
>>586134707>this wasn't taken instantly>meanwhile Mingus Dew was taken in less than a minuteStill mad.
>>586135701>Has Horde tattooHopefully it’s next to her QoS tattoo
>>586135701>german>horde tattooyou just know
>>586136071feral is 5 dps above enhance, chill broif elemental ever gets buffed it will be by far the most broken PvP spec in the game so dont expect that anytime soon, still good for pvp burst
>>586136071Don't care. Played enhance 20 years ago, gonna play it now, unga bunga
>>586136215but anon affli warlock & spriest existsboth are basically unkillable 3k dmg per instant spammers
>>586134323Just say you like cock bro
>>586136103I don't think EU cares about king of the hill, ive run out or reserves though
>>586136215what fucking pvp burst?what burst is elemental doing with a no damage lightning bolt, all our passive crit % removed from the ele talent tree and elemental mastery not giving a free crit.there is no burst in elemental, it's a completely toothless spec at this point.
>>586127996Raider.io is actually useful for pugs in retail because it takes one shitter to ruin your run and there is no surefire way to detect one>just don't join pugs broOk, then raider.io doesnt affect you at all
>>586127996Fagever sissies?I thought you wouldn't have parse mandigos~Awww shucks that your shitter paradise is now parse god land, maybe being a cucked type b wasn't the play to survive :3Don't worry. I'm sure being a type b cuck is going great for your irl life too hahahah
>>586136391i basically did, they should add a foam finger that says #1 tauren totem pole fan to the skyborne reputation
>>586136215Ret can burst people down now, so I don't see why Ele shouldn't be able to
>>586136467>hi /wowfg/, /wowg/ here (trans), i just wanted to let you know raider.io is actually a good thing
>>586136071It's okay lil bro. I'm sure shaman tank any day now.Pffhahahha!!!
>>586136215>shaman>pvp burstSo you didn't actually pvp in the beta>>586136294Enjoy not being taken to group content unless you're resto
>>586136447>what burst is elemental doing15 seconds of spammable instant cast (shorter cast speed than the GCD) chain lighting that have a high chance of casting a second free version instantly with 200%+ crit damage multiplier stop pretending to be retarded anon
>>586136625>uhmm actually raider.io is le evil chud addon and I shpuld be able to get invites to group>*bricks your key*Don't worry, Forever is going to be easy enough for people like you so there won't be any need to use it
>>586136625If you didn't have purpz parsies you ain't in anyways lil gupta.Shit nuggies like you are meant to be excluded from the game and society at large.
>>586136758>chain lightning >the spell that hits for less than 20% of what it did in classic >killing anyone
Everybody who played SoD and knows how that fat retard likes to balance knows that every high parsing ranged DPS is going to be nerfed to the ground while every melee spec will remain broken forever. I guarantee if ranged hunter and warlock continue to preform well they will be nerfed to the ground before t1 even releasesI guarantee it. screen cap this post.
>>586133723I'm gonna play this but I'm on ally sorry
>>586136830>Lil Sanjay Gupta
>>586136830Nah shitters like him get excluded via logs anyways.No version of wow will allow the shitter to live in anything but it's own 4h MC ghetto.
>>586136071Pretty sure that is paladin.
>>586136925>We couldn't possibly burst anybody down if we got a buff because without a buff we don't do high damage!!!Are you actually retarded anon? How to you expect them to buff elemental shaman without increasing the damage of their spells?
>>586136938Also tank druid will be buffed.And paladin tank is likely going to be forever in the shit pit.First phasers don't even talk to me.
>>586136964I posted that while shitting in a toilet so your post is provably false
The biofems in this game are awful, you need more trannies to keep them in line.
>>586136938Things are a bit different this time around. Fatgrand is trying to exclusively appeal to the mutt streamers that main mage and pally. He'll keep those classes op whilst the others have to fight for scraps.
WHAT THE FUCK DO I DO FOR 5 DAYS!!!!!!!!!
Best faction/race/class/ruleset if I want a trans gf?
>when wow released it was absurdly popular with kids and teenagers>all the millennials now laughing about how to balance it with their work/family time>nothing AT ALL about zoomersI just realized, what the fuck do teens and kid play now? It's like millennials were the last core audience of any video game franchise. Zoomers/Alpha just don't seem to exist as a consumer let alone a core audience like we were
>>586135635>>586135801>>586136030this is why horde side males are better than alliance side males..
>>586137254play azeroth survivors or slay the spire 2
>>586137254masturbate and shitpost
>>586137254Play other games my shitskin friend
rp-pvp or pvp?
>>586137254Play Mamatoto
>>586136625they need it in retail because every other player is a boosted nigger boost to max lvl boosted raid boosted m+ retail is boost nigger central
>>586137235Fatgroid only bends down to a few streamers.>>586137312Someone redpill me on how to clear HC 1-3 as warrior that class sucks dick so bad.
>>586137267the younger ones are probably more likely to play overwatch 2 or something, the older zoomers could've been playing wow since like idk cata
>>586136758>spammable shorter cast speed than the GCD with 200%+ crit damageSo a troll fire mage spamming Scorch? Big scary burst. Bros out here writing fanfiction from folk tales heard through a broken telephone.The burst was guaranteeing two crits in a game with 10-15% crit chance on fully decked out players.
>>586137259Night elf, female, RP, Druid, she will groom you into taking estrogen yourself.
>buy gold >get banned>make a twitch account and buy gold while streaming >Blizzard puts me on the launcher and invites me to the podcast
>>586137267Roblox, fornite, Minecraft, hide the Jewish cock.
>>586137483Just cast chain heal and shut up sperg
>>586137312Best WoW class for this feel?
>>586137259Human male paladin
>>586137692Mage, obviouslyMAYBE warlock is forever mages dont have water elementals
>>586137254goon & plap
>>586137267>>586137558I thought you were joking holy shit that's literally all they play. It's nothing but Roblox minecraft and fornite
>>586137254start writing down all the names and professions for your future alts as well as their character backstoriesyou are rolling on an RP server, right anon?
>>586137692>shilling anita's gamefuck you
>>586137692>toss a regen on the tank>masturbate to hentai on 2nd screenAny healer, really
>>586138114>not playing a good game because a dumb bitch was in an ad or something
Ever since I made my skelf I’ve been gooning to AI images I’ve made of her taking big black buttery cock
>>586124935At least half the anons here are LLMs pretending to be people so I would take your observations with a grain of salt.
>>586137692Easily mage.>"Hmm, I feel like visiting that capital city. Let me just rip open a fabric in space time and step in to it."
>>586138316The other half are brown people with even less self-awareness than the bots.
Is it true that names are taken across all rulesets?
>>586137780>>586138349The lore is probably mage, but from a gameplay perspective i feel like its warlock >minions do his bidding>managing extra resources (stars) is like managing health and mana for yourself and pet with life tap and drains
>>586138221i have sts 1 right there, nothing you say will make me support a jew game where they unironically let anita join and go>yeah the girl? make her blacker and uglier, and show off her discolored skin spots
>>586138419Yes, so they can eventually remove all rulesets and just implement warmode like retail has
>>586138507This would be true if it wasn't a requirement to play warlock that you are just angry and pissed near constantly. Every single warlock I've met is just always losing their shit.
Delete Tauren, so that wow may be free from furries in the fresh start
>>586137830Kids generally play F2P games because they have no money and roblox has shitty versions of all the fotm games they can play for free
I'm so happy that there's only a handful of niggers that play mmos. If only we could be rid of browns.
>>586138419>teh ruleset bro teh ruleset!!
>>586127516what the fuck is that thing
>>586138590Gnomes are the bigger threat fetish wise on the game.
>>586137267They play a lot of meme fotm games.
>>586138830I’ve actually liked my black guildmates. Tend to be very funny on voice, but with bad punctuality.
>all the wow forever content i consumed>just now finding a video that shows a new hidden inn up in the dun algaz area (the orcs on the path between loch modan and wetlands)>the person is inspecting each of the npcs and what they sell>"trying to see if there is anything unique on this bartender">a drink called "aetherstill spirits" which has no price is sitting right there, with a 45s duration buff of some sort and the text "drink me, i'm delicious!">the bitch completely misses it>go to wowhead to see what this thing is>page has 0 commentsWhat the fuck
>>586138926kek
>>586137692
>>586138926That's what you get for watching whores
>>58613892699% of wow content creators are fucking awful.Lowest effort, laziest shit with clickbait titles, ai thumbnails and just a general lack of interest or passion from the guy making them. They either sound like they are reading off a corporate script or they sound like they are clueless bums who can barely be assed recording the video
>>586139174I’m white so I don’t watch any of that shit.
>>586139092Kek
>>586139127>>586139174It's an ASMR video
If you switch to alliance because of racials you were never a real hordler to begin with
>>586139385alliance is basically doa faction , horde is perma locked rn
>>586139385I siwtched to alliance because i've seen enough of classic orgrimmar for a lifetime
>>586126827>>586127590>>586128652i always loved how this game looked but i could never get into it, i had 0 knowledge of who i could fight at anytime no idea how i could even gauge if i could win etc
>>586139385I play horde because elves are gay. As are gnomes
>>586139385I'm playing alliance because I played horde in 2019 classic and I want a fresh experience
>Think of name that you like way more than the 3 that you have>It's already reserved but it's still obscure enough that there's a chance you could've gotten it on the first day if you had thought of it then
>>586139385I switched to Alliance because I have become more of a gooner and value good looking females more than anything else.That's the truth of the matter.
>>586139385Nobodys switching to faggot alliance man. If anything it will be a nightmare to be able to create a horde character on PVP
>>586139552Names are not that important.
>>586139339That's even worse, just kill yourself already
>>586122704I genuinely fail to see what's bad about this
>>586139612hmmm nyo
>>586139552Good, you need to feel a fraction of the despair people who didn't give in to Blizzards jewish tricks feel when they log in 5 days from now and have been VIOLATED by every single one of you FREAKS who stole all the names.
>>586139174I just watched a video about the racial changes by Venruki and he didn't even know that weapon skill was good in original vanilla
Femtrool priest or femdead warlock?
>>586126657it's people without jobs channeling their urge to be productive into their recreational activities
Please god nerf warriors into the ground in the upcoming datamine
>>586122704Triple spec is great1. Dps spec 2. Support spec3. PvP spec.
>>586126657There are some fags who play WoW and have played WoW for over 20 years that still somehow don't have 1) a career 2) a family 3) friends and so they hyper fixate on this
>>586139893Why
If they wanted a gold sink they should just have a literal tax system where if you don't pay you're treated like an outcast and NPCs from your faction's capitals ignore you, guards won't help you, and more importantly you're cut off from the auction house.
>>586139935Unironically 4 specs is probably the sweet spot
>>586139790>the guy who devoted his entire life to arena doesn't know a niche vanilla pve stat that was barely understood when the game was currentThe only reason people had this knowledge for classic19 was because of private servers. Barely anyone who played in Vanilla knew what the hell extra weapon skill passed 300 did for you.
>>586139863Femdead warlock or femdead priest. Femtroll casting animation kinda sucks, while femdead casting animations are good. Shadowguard is really good if you plan on going shadow for pvp though.
>>586131525Honestly one of the best world PvP zones in the game
>>586139893Put on the dress and shut your mouth, pink femboy.
>>586140135>>586139790He also plays a spellcaster. Weapon skill is trivial when compared to the usual machinations of a mage.
Fury warrior + healer Druid duo WILL spawn camp your entire team, and you will like it.
>>586134416DP is also healing you passively for 100% of that damage, and VE is making everything heal you 20% too, let alone all the other dmg left on the table with Blast/Flay/Starshards if NEive been saying since day 1 of seeing the talents SP is an absolute beast and its flying under the radar so hard
>>586140135>Barely anyone who played in Vanilla knew what the hell extra weapon skill passed 300 did for youPeople knew about edgemasters in vanilla buddy
Can you guys post more gnome slop?
Reminder that Taurens will get a damage racial before release and plainsrunning will be limited to 40%
>>586139554>gooning to trannies Kek
>>586140572Plainsrunning hunters are gonna be totally broken and I would roll one if I didnt hate the models
>>586140456There seems to be a trend suggesting Vanilla players were actually 100% clueless. They didn't know near as much people eventually figured out, but I'm seeing a lot of "content creators" pushing the narrative lately acting like every last Vanilla player was a smooth brained retard that just "played for fun and whimsy!" and didn't have anyone that took things seriously.
>>586140635>gooning to tranniesBased!
>>586140084Yyyikes
>>586140714It’s because OG vanilla players were majority white so it’s profitable to say they were all clueless idiots who didn’t know how to play until the enlightened moors came and showed them the way.
>>586139552i kinda want to dox the cool name i got because everyone itt will avoid na pve anyways and it's not like i use the name anywhere else
>>586130424I'm going lw/skinning to level because I'll need those healing blues for dungeons while I spec bear
>tfw will never coerce that BE thot Meririen into my bedWhy even live
>>586140714No one is saying that everyone was stupid. There was definitely people who cleared content. But not many people even stepped in AQ let alone Naxx. My example is that it took years of private servers for most vanilla quirks and mechanics to even be in the minds of people who either never played it or were one of the few who never got to 60 or never got to raid and just did random inefficient shit because you were a kid. It's not unlikely that someone who only really played the game seriously with arena (Venruki) and mained a caster wouldn't know about a melee practically vanilla only mechanic.
>>586141243>>586141243>>586141243
>>586133405If they don't balance pvp forever is going to die, I certainly won't keep playing to raid log
>>586141093If you are going to make informative videos about classic/forever I think knowing about weapon skill is something you should have known about for a long time already.Maybe the average retard vanilla player didn't know the intricacies of weapon skill back then, but they were also not selling themselves as an expert on the game
>>586141261they said they wont balance around 1v1, so expect pvp balance to be done around 10v10 like WSG, so not very balanced at all
>>586139480it's mostly based by ship type and the weapons they use, in it's core its still a rock paper scissors mushroom kind of thing and comes with experiencehowever, i whole heartedly do not recommend picking up this game anymore if you want to play it for pvp
>>586138926there's so much new shit that I don't see discussed here or anywhere
>>586139935>>586140097dynamic speccing that reallocates your talent points depending on what is on cooldown and what enemy you are fighting
>>586140408*sheeps the warrior*
>>586140714my friend had one year of play time on xfire 3 years after the game released, I'm sure he and his guild figured out the game eventually
>>586129878>loot councilCorrect. It is the only way if you're progression minded. Anything else is casual trash garbage.
