>Latest patch:https://www.playdeadlock.com/cityneversleeps>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/https://deadlock-api.com/>Unofficial CompetitiveNewshttps://edl.gg/https://www.deadfrag.com/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>586104206
>le blackman of being not dumb
How do you learn movement in this game?
>>586135031step 1: play tf2 for a decade
>>586135031Watch some movement autists videos and then practice things while you play.https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLY2ByAvw9lmufZc2vXtQuMwCKOq61JGlc
Where are the Halloween masks??
>>586135031Do some CS surf maps, then if you like movement stick with those because movement only matters at like the 0.1% percentile of play and the movement in this game compared to surf or tribes fucking sucks.
'EADED TU BLOO....
>>586132389Silver does nothing, the enemy team have to be throwing themselves at her for her to have any impact and that impact only lasts for about 7 minutes in early mid gameWhen she wins it's because of her team
>>586135031Play the game and mess around with the movement
Add her
>ZERO fucking carries on the teamThank you Icefraud you fucking RETARD
>>586135031And reminder: The stuff you can do in a vacuum lab setting barely matters compared to having macro and aim. There are people who unironically spend 100s of hours trying to get an edgeboost who could have spent that time actually playing the game.
i dont get the """movement is hard"""" meme in this game you just jump dash and slide if your stamina allows it and thats it
>>586135604Silver is a carry according to the game :)
If an enemy "commends" you you should legally be able to nuke their Steam account
>>586135679
>>586135679They have to remember not to press w
>>586135784stop being so weak to psychological warfare
>>586134246it runs on my 1650 and ryzen 3 2200g so if it's anything better than that it should
if you are a new player and you researched how to properly play the game like counterbuying, farming boxes things like that. does that count as cheating?
Graves is rich so there must be some secret motive on why she babysits, like, isn't that suspicious?
>>586135830he's a troonssian, they get triggered by certain nations merely existinggive him a break they literally do not know any better
>>586135996women cant be pedophiles and even if they are then society gotta cope that little boys getting raped isn't that bad
>>586135679It's easy to do 95% of the shit actually relevant to most players (crouching to get off ziplines, staggering your jumps while sliding to go further). The other 4% is potentially useful stamina saving stuff that requires a ton of effort and is useful to pickup eventually.Most movement autist stuff is that last 1% which is gravy if you can do it, but there are 1000 other things you should care about first.
>>586135996probably did something bad and her parents suspended her allowance and said if she wants spending money she needs to work for it (builds character)>>586136031idpol schizo
sex with kelvin
>>586136046what does babysitting has to do with being a pedophile, whats the correlation
>>586136173That would imply her parents care about her, which we know it's not true
>>586135830Have you tried killing yourself?
i cant stop playing warden
>>586136184being alone with children and forming bonds with them? shit i know some women that let their babysitters (also women) bathe their children
>>586135996Free access to shotas
>>586136181>that fold of fat under his armguh
Being a kid and taking a shower with Graves...mm....
>>586136242Hardly, that kind of thing is basic 'harsh but fair' parenting you'd find in a self-help book, and requires no effort on their part.
>>586136309where do i get free access to rem boycunny
why are they so scared of adding a hero that gives vision? i assumed baba would be able to send her pigeons around and use them as wards, but instead she's just another radiant regen abusing spirit tank. is yoshi scared of true asymmetric balance?
/dlg/ is 50% pedo talks, 20% lusting for Violet posts, 20% gay shit (both yaoi and and yuri posts), 9% talking about other games and the last 1% actually talking about the game.
deadlockers got loli pugna as a champion and they are complainin bout stuff
>>586135679Yeah and then there's wall jumping and air strafing which actually matter and are difficult with no good guides on how to perform them
>>586136542in your dreams dude
signs you lost before the game started>paradox. warden, sinclair or drifter on the team
>>586136181Seven gets fucked by THAT?
remember when we thought that harrow was broken
>>586136805literally any of the new characters on the enemy teamyour team not showing up to comeback urn with rat king ultremSevenWraith on enemy teamIvy on enemy teamVictor + any viable support on enemy teamWarden on your teamPaige on your team not building support items
Sex with Rat King
Is pocket secretly OP
>>586136934I remember it like it was right now
Standard is funn
do you guys think selling accounts with ranked unlocked would be profitable
NERF GRENADEBUFF RAT SWARMS
>queue random>get three of those how X is Y questions>get those specific characters without failI see you Yosh.
>>586137112If it was highly automated and you lived in a dirt poor country... So no
>>586136805>>>>paradoxKill yourself.
>>586137112Why? You'll get cucked the minute Valve reduces the requirement to 5 wins, or even "60 standard wins"
>>586135784"Hmm the enemy Calico played well this match despite their team" *commends*
uh where is the patch? is icefrog wasting his time asking the pro players for opinion first?
>>586137079Countered by all new heroes so he's dogshit until those get nerfed.
>>586137079everybody and their mother's buying divine barrier these days
>>586137112Still to living in SEA or India and spamming ragebait on twitter
What did he do wrong
>our Paige is a passive aggressive whiny bitch (as usual)>Abrams in our team tells us to not save her and ignore her because she's "cannon fodder">we do and we winMade me laugh honestly
Why is EVERY game in standard a stomp either way? One side is always up like 100k total damage + 50k souls, it’s so boring when there is no back and forth
Instead of unlocking an picking characters in ranked, you should be randomly assigned a character. It'd be a much better show of skill to be able to play on whatever you are given, instead of simply abusing whatever the most meta hero is during a given patch
>>586135784"That was a fun game. Both teams played really well."*commends*
>>586137540standard's premade island, that's why
>>586136552I don’t think they are scared it’s just mostly pointless, you can see 300m
>>586137540Because bad players can't recover from a lost lane. They'll lose lane, group up and deathball for the next 20 minutes and whatever team was ahead from lane will win the match. I've lost count of how many urns and solo rifts I've been given
>>586137524Too much m1
>>586135085Speaking of tf2 I fucking hate how people say Danny is the tf2 character when he has a fucking jetpack
how do the stats work? what is a 4.8k power spike?
>>586137972When you buy items you get stats based on how much the item costs. After spending 4.8k souls on items in a category you get a large bonus.
>>586137934pyrotechnician also has jetpack doe
how do tards even lose as rat king, genuinely HOW the fuck is his winrate only 55%, it should be around 70 minimum
>>586137934They need to add an actual TF2 tier character that has 0 stamina whatsoever but has RJ/Sticky Jump mechanics. >>586138050Not even remotely the same. Pyro's jetpack is a big jump and then it's done.
how do i die less (4 of my deaths were in lane so they dont count)
>>586135784Bring back mid game commends for the enemy team it was so funny as a BM tool.
>>586138108They're going the wrong build, if you build m1 on him you're griefing.
>>586137694Sure if there aren't any gigantic fucking buildings in NYC then you can see 300m.
>mfw me and my team get our asses handed to us by a roleplaying Doorman using phantom strike and majestic leap
>>586138194You're the frontliner. You go first, that's a fine amount of die. Just try to die less in lane.
What would you have Shiv's rage curse thingy be without just making him a werewolf/vampire? (bonus points if its a connection to some folklore/occult thing)
>>586138108They're not going spirit build
>>586138689Sun Wukong
Its crazy how Abrahams has no counter play. He just gets witchmail then spams charge and there is nothing you can do about it
>>586138108Most people probably do win 70% starting out with him and then the matchmaking algorithm gives them tougher matches to compensate. My friend is a Rat King spammer and we always lose if he doesn't get his hero.
>>586137694they just have to remove being able to see creep camps disappear on the enemies side of the map and then vision advantage will actually be useful. if you're paying attention the map right now you basically have maphack
>>586138689maybe its cliche but half demon or something would be neat.
Why did they make Mina's thighs so thicc
>>586138689its some sort of life extension trinket
>>586138194>only commending your duo after a victoryI know what you are
Anyone have that Corn Princess drawing of Holliday?
so tired of violet and danny bros… yoshi please save us
>>586134430>No Democrat, FDR's great works programs did a lot for his family.>Great WorkFDR is the reincarnation of hermes trismegistus?
violet is not getting nerfed!!
>>586139324nta but i always commend my lane partner if they were a good lane partner
>>586137167bebop belongs in 20 deaths tier
every once in a while there's a match where I see everyone in the lobby is bad but me, so I'm up some 20k souls 10 killstreak and it just makes me feel sad because it would be a good, balanced match if I wasn't there
why keep adding new heroes to the game if it just makes the game less fun every timefaggots will defend this by saying it's an alpha as if we can't have balanced heroes on launch or can't put them in standard only because they need to """""gather data"""""the data is in your player numbers are dropping off is this what is good for the game?
>>586137167how is lash idiot proof. He's hard to play
>>586139784They should add heroes with unique, focused kits instead of aoe slop.
>>586139784Rem is a griffin-esque thing as opposed to a rodent
>>586138689Lich lol. The Phylactery saved him but also cursed him. His original self was murderhobo man and since becoming a lich he's reformed but needs vitae (read, distilled bloodlust from battle) to stay alive.
>>586139837LMAO
>>586139837press 2press 1press 3ult when they group
the paradox typed in chat after this saying that they should delete radiant regen lmfao
>>586139917they SHOULD be more willing to completely rework heroes/abilities during this alpha period than what they're doing right now which is mostly just number tweaksthere are so many hero designs that are either complete dogshit or overpowered bullshit depending on the number tweaks, to me that just seems like a poorly designed hero yet they refuse to make any real changes to address them
Did the devs just kind of run out of ideas with ultimates? The new ults except danny are just big aoe slop
>>586140054>press 1>go in>diewow
>>586140060Paradox is 100% correct.
>>586140138
The rank distribution in this game makes no sense, I get to many south american feeders that clearly belong in lower ranks.
I wanna play with Minor Molester Molly!
>>586140137>Make painter hero with drawing gimmick>The gimmick requires you to not use charages on your spam nuke>Is mostly used just as an exploit>Rest of kit is powercrept verisons of other characters shit + "Win teamfight" Uncontestable AoE slop>Will fall to irrelevance if her numbers and key item get nerfedYeah I agree
they need to add chat to post game because some people deserve to get flamed based on their contributions other than kda
>>586140060>deadlock players when they need to buy a 1.6k item to counter a 1.6k item
When are we getting a dark seer type ult in the game that creates AI clones of players? Would be cool
>>586140261valve famously have no idea how to design engaging or objectively good ranked systems
>>586140532>AI clone of my Grave legitimately plays better than the humanI await the day with clenched teeth
>>586140465This x 1000.Nothing better than throwing the full stats in some useless cunts face after he's been talking shit at everybody for 30 minutes
I hope Yoshi never removes multishot. I've been running it with Ratking and gun McGinnis and it's stupid fun. I don't care if there are better options. Seeing those bullets fly and and amount of psychological damage it does to the enemy team is more than enough.
>>586140687I wish he'd unnerf it a bit, everyone else is suffering for the sins of gun paige.
>>586136571I love how it went from everyone shitting on Violet being an art hoe to everyone loving that she is one.
>>586140465I pause when the Patron's HP is a 1 and begin writing my manifesto. You get at least 15s to flame the shit out of whoever you want.
>>586140328No!
>>586140832i need to see how much damage some shitters did, but its often painfully obvious as i tend to be in the 50-60k range while people sit at 20k damage in 35 min
>>586140328Molly got shanked im afraid
Why does danny still get to fly while he's slowing hexed
>>586140328Goddamn Molly, stop peeking out from under the cape, you're making us look bad… Sorry about that. She's a good gal. The minor attraction is a helluva thing though.
mirage needs a complete ult change so he can actually be a viable and interesting character
>be graves>vindicta on enemy team>jar, echo shard jar>dive her>3k damage instantly
>>586137365so glad global stayed on the ult.
>>586141048balance privileges if he got fully countered by a 1600 item he would be near unplayable
>>586141048That, my friend, is the patented Fairfax™ orphan-powered propulsion system in action!
Do cheaters even get banned?
why can the badass chungus reddit granny still heavy melee during tranny longs legs when slowing hexed
>>586141048dlc diff
>>586141162Yes sir, right away. Extra AoE, heavy on the CC, and hold the skill expression. Coming right up!
>>586141435cute..
>>586140060>waren is le.....bottom 1 character!!
>>586140054everytime I play him I feel like I do no damage late game, everyone tanks my full combo like it's nothing
>>586135679It's just basic Source engine momentum conservation stuff. Anyone who's played HL2, GMod, CS Source through 2 or TF2 enough time knows it like the back of his hand.People who come from DOTA or non-Valve shooters are the ones struggling with it.
>>586140261gonna be real it's better that it's bottom heavy. That's how it was before and Yoshi artificially boosted everyone up and it created an absolute cluster fuck where phantom games became clown shows. The vast majority of the playerbase are double digit iq mouth breathers from marvel rivals, let them fester and brool in the lower divisions because they don't belong anywhere above sentinel.
>>586141595He does in fact fall off, at that point you’re an ult bot
Violet feet hours? Violet feet hours.
>>586140328Do not the Rem!
Reminder to yuritroons that your transbian headcanon is exactly just thatAll the Deadlock characters are straight
>>586141606i am a dotard coming to deadslop and whenever enemy just spazzes out jumping up and spidermans off the walls i just say wow the game sucks and there should be limit on how much high in sky you should go
>>586140343The drawing gimmick should be tied to the ultimate and the ultimate should also let her tag walls with paintings spray/splatoon style for some sort of interesting map control effect
>>586141765I like that Deadlock developers knew to make Rem the most easily punishable/weak when alone type heroes but also the terrorist character the enemy team will despise you for playing. Very good design to make him the annoying little brother you have to protect.
>>586141162Ok I got it. It's called "Djinn's Fury" He summons a Wyoming shaped circle around him, and it's a scaling slow that if it hits 100, inflicts an instant 5 stacks of Djin's mark. This can repeat up to 3 times. I realize that might be too synergistic with other elements of his kit of course and maybe even a bit too thematic for modern 'lock
It would be better if Graves was a boy I think
would it be better if Graves is confirmed to be underaged or just implied?
>>586141501anything other than a global teleport because it takes away too much budget from the rest of his abilities even though 98% of the playerbase can't use it correctly
shiv's hair should get messed up progressively as he dies throughout a match
tips for Haze?
>>586141791If she actually had to draw out her epic AoE fuck you circle it'd be 100x cooler even if it ultimately was AoE slop by a different name. Would be cool if you had to draw your arena prior and the second touch activated it.
>>586141162his ult is fine, the rest of his kit is just a bit gimped due to his potential map presence and as a result he's basically useless unless he gets a massive amount of farmi'd like to see the timer on reapplication of djinns mark go down and his scarabs actually do some amount of damage, maybe scale the damage reduction down at t1 and back to what it is at t3
>>586142229you buy either silence wave or curse and rape anyone on the map who is alone. what's not to get?
>>586142229Get an aimbot
i have 3 words to sayYOU CANT KILL ME
>mfw been playing for 4 days>lost every match with an avg of 1/3 kd as mina>consumed every guide still can't apply anythingwhat do?I only wanna play mobile sidelaners
>>586141435>>586141508This is the only yuri ship I like because there was a story a long time ago about female artist and female writer making a manga and in the process falling in love
>>586141162Yeah drastically lower the ults cd before its max rank. Make the cast time slightly longer, but make it so it isn't cancelled by damage taken again. (still need to have taken no hero damage to start the cast).Also slightly lower the cd on mark, its borderline unstackable with lower cd
everyone calls for graves nerfs when she is mid at best now and any extra nerf would make her weakest bottomest hero
>>586142467that's hot
delete danny
>>586141162No. Just let him do damage again. He's a poke character with really strong split pushing and macro game. The ult is a key part of his identity
>>586142347>Reapplication of Djinns markUltimately this is the thing fucking him over as a character. He'd be cooler if his firerate was massively tuned down but he did a ton of damage and every hit applied a mark/effect. Limit mark stack count to like 2/3/4/5 and give him an absurd on bullet hit proc % so he can stack effects still.Balancewise would be similar but would end up much cooler for it. Might open up stuff like express shot.
>>586142427watch mikaels mina and copy what he's doing
>>586142427just keep at it theres tons of crap you gotta juggle and it takes a while to click. watch some eternus mina gameplay.
>>586141162His ult is fine but it would be a bit cooler if he let out nashala and she flew around like a gay talon owl and mirage appeared at the point of landing, like wreckers ult but without being an infinitely scaling nuke. What he really needs is an actually cool ability instead of his scarabs, shooting out the lamest projectile in the game which does a little bit of lifesteal and damage debuff is not making anyone want to use it. Also the visual/audio effects on high stack triggers should be cooler. Yes I wrote cooler 3 times, djinn with it
>10 ranked win streakSo this is what winner's queue feels like.
>>586138689He's just really angry.
>>586140060If even warden is buikding RR and it's still broken RR needs to be removed from the game
>>586142737enjoy it while it lasts, the pendulum will swing.
>>586142325Uh oh windmill time
i don't take you seriously if you play a char that builds the 2 satanic items
>>586141162I always thought a more interesting(?) take on Mirage's ult would be if he could only select allied heroes again, but appeared above them as a sand ghost (like a Mirage get it???) and then shoot his guns/locusts/tornado the teammate around to actually act like a BODYGUARD before being whisked away back to his starting location, so he doesn't get unlimited map pressure but can essentially help an ally from anywhere. This was before Solomon came out with Kingside KNight let you move and save allies, but I thought the idea of having locusts to heal allies, djnns mark to do damgae, and tornado to save allies instead of using them offensively would make for an interesting character gimmick since it essentially switches his kit around when supporting teammates
>>586142737look at the top of her head LOL
why is mina drooling on her portrait is she retarded
>>586142619it always hurts when you start getting kills with mark and then everyone immediately buys dispel magic and you instantly do nothing but waveclear because you just spent 15-20 seconds carefully applying stacks and positioning properly and you have no method of reapplying it in time to be useful
>>586142926She's still a baby vampire she doesn't know proper blood drinking ettiqute
i have to use lossless scaling to play the game otherwise i would always be below 60fps
>>586142926Yes actually
>>586141528doesnt it make sense to build rr on warden though? i mean the flask cooldown lines up with the radiant regen cooldown almost 1:1
>>586140814Fucking bitch ruins everything, she gutted expansion too because of her faggot shit
>>586142990press 3 the moment before they dispel.
RUN FOR YOUR PITIFUL-aaah!
wtf low prio matches don't count if someone leaves? This is some bs, i did my time
>>586142869This is the real reason they relegated the draw mechanic to a gimmick, because they don't want to deal with the windmills of friendship in game.
Is mokrill secretly op?
>>586143346>secretly
>>586142925no bully
tank debuff graves still the most fun
>>586143346Bricklo post
people mock her but the removal of yamato's forehead will mark the end of sovl deadlock
>>586143120>>586142783wrong reply
>>586143316Has anyone documented how low prio punishment scales with repeat offenses? What does abandoning a low prio game do to ya? Do you eventually get banned for weeks?
>>586141939I gotta say, something about Rems gameplay loop is very satisfying, especially late game when you can basically just buff minions and let them push for you when they are down players. Probably my favorite character to play so far.
WE ONLY HAVE ONE SHRINE LEFT
And so the cum begins to flow down Manhattan
sex with calico
>>586143883lynching calico with vindicta
if you're not billy you can just light melee for freejust walk up to someone and light melee themwhat the fuck are they gonna do? they gonna gamble a parry on light melee? it works nine times out of ten just throw out the light melee. it costs nothing.
>>586143883
>>586143969Pay no attention to this man's inventory or what he spend his first 800 on.
STOP THAT FAIRFAX SHILL
>>586143480Playing Graves doesn't even feel like I'm playing Deadlock.
>>586143941Vindicta is wouldn’t do this Quakers are a nonviolent group
>Solomon goes on a killstreak>I WANT THAT NIGGER HANGING FROM A TREE IN CENTRAL PARK!!!What did he mean by this?
>be vindicta>lane with violet>their prematch dialogue is lol im a ghost from 1600s and i got hanged>violet says lol it must be suck being a woman back there umm yikes chudsOH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODDDDYOSHI CURB YOUR FETISH FOR ASIAN AMERICAN LIB ARTHOES YOU NIGGGEEEERR
>>586144301if I was more racist and a game was ending I would type **gg** in the chat
>>586144419would you mind if i started doing this? i think its quite funny
>>586144410Which conversation, bro?https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/characters/violet/I don't see it here.
>high prio Harrow>don't get her>my team doesn't get her>enemy team doesn't get her>she's not bannedwhat the fuck is this?
>>586144301how are all of mina's character portraits so sex?
>>586138829stack barriers to tank the charge and heavy melee burst or get indom
>>586144410It seems you’re conflating a conversation she has with Graves
Now that the dust has settled, why was it turned into a cone when every new hero was given an AOE ult?
deadlock would be better 5v5
Nerf hazes spirit scaling and make her ult a full 360 again
>>586144779it arguably makes it better being a cone instead of a circle because before it would take turns shooting everything in the circle so one way to counterplay haze ult was to all stand near eachother because it would split the damage in an un-advantageous way
YOU TOO CAN EXPERIENCE THE MIRACLE OF FLIGHT!>*does 1500 damage to you plus spirit burn plus reverb*
>>586144814this or 4 lanes
>>586144612how many times do you people need to be explained the same thingdeadlock matchmaking is not a free for all, there are roles that need to be filled behind the scenesthere was no place for a harrow on either team because the harrow queuers were assigned into the "carry" or "frontliner" category instead and supports were filled by other players
racist and sexist phillipino man here, who should I main?
>>586144942The most honest hero of the new ones btw
there's supposedly a lot of unfinished models, voices etc but have they ever updated anything? how fucking far is this game from release
mirage the amazing bodyguard reworkScarabs: all damage dealt to and by the enemy charges up the scarab. When the scarab returns to mirage at the end of the effect, the charge is divided as healing to all nearby allies (like the healing crystals)Whirlwind is the sameMark now gains stacks from any hero shooting at the marked enemy, cooldown still applyingUltimate: teleporting to an ally gives them a big barrier
>>586144135and thats a good thing
>>586144937Did the fruit fly not think of simply moving out of the way of the rooks?
>>586145035da dwiftuh
so is shiv ethnicity like seamonkey or something he literaly got that chimpanzee like mouth
>>586145172Black
>>586139784>>586139917>>586140104none of the new heroes have been through a balance pass and have not been released with the item rework they were presumably developed with, it's too soon to start weeping like a little bitch
>>586144814Terrible decision
>>586145035Probably one of the female characters with an anime mod on
i don't think graves' current kit is making it to releaseits buggy as fuck, the one time they fixed part of it (hitting two targets at max rank 3) they immediately had to nerf it because it was too strongthe unwashed masses truly hate this character and throw tantrums anytime she's above like 30% win rateyoshi just cut your losses and give her a different kit
does anyone get jitter spikes in this game?
Are you sure whe should bring back solo lanes, do you really want to deal with solo lane wraith and haze sucking up all the farm and winning by 25 minutes
>>586144942>>586145047i genuinely dont understand how you can do badly on him. most of the time i see him against me the retard goes 1/9but every time i play i top damage with like 1 death, by just flying around and goofing off. he is SO busted.
>>586144937solomon is the least fun character to play again
I'm not gay but I want Billy's punk goat cock
>>586142219Shiv's rage meter should be changed to "edge" meter and when it's maxed out you can audibly hear the vibrating buttplug he's had inside his ass the entire time.
>>586144691She was manufactured in a lab by commitee to drain WASP's of their sperm.
graves and violet will not be changed or nerfed!
>>586143480sorry I mean jar build
So if the new season of ranked is coming next weekis it safe to say we're getting a MASSIVE balance patch and potentially the item update?
they gonna cry, they gonna beg, they gonna scream
what do I buy to enjoy queueing against infernus?
>>586145512they should buff violet
>>586145431what elo are you? i'm running away with him in my low ascendant games but objectively it's only because people can't fucking aim
>>586145512Is there even a way to nerf tank Graves without breaking the kneecaps of the base character?
>>586145494WASPs dont fuck asians
>>586145608Break her kneecaps. No one gives a fuck. She should be nerfed until her winrate is 50% average across all brackets, because she is the training wheels character.
>>586145310just a completely unengaging hero both for the enemy team and the player themselfno mechanics, no interesting combos or techsit in a sidelane, hit your ult around a corner from the next objective, just hit all your buttons and hold down the fire button until you have to reload when an enemy hero comes near youstomps low rank lobbies because she forces you to engage with macro but in the least interesting way possibleshitcan her and bring her back in 3 years when they have a more interesting kit cooked up
>>586145624I don't know about that.
Buff geist drain and nerf her gun damage so she can be a actual spirit carry.
1 trillion years has passed and you fucks still seethe about Graves? move on holy shit
>>586145431in human elos he gets destroyed by focus fire and focus CC, he cannot carry and probably wasn't meant to
graves and bebop should trade guns
>>586145771these shitters think danny is op, thats all you need to know about the 'people' that browse this general.
>>586145310the problem is that if there's two equally shitters but 1 is graves, the graves will win most of the time and this makes them MAD
Graves only works in shitlow
CAN'T GET OUT OF LOW PRIO CAUSE I CANNOT WIN ONE SINGLE MATCH AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
low elo is more funbut i only play normals anyways
>>586145830There is a 12% gap in winrate between those two heroes by the way.
>>586145715not every hero will have combos or tech. her swarm of exploding zombies is her mechanic
Danny is fucking awesome, he exists to trade 1 for 1 with their carry
>>586145901uhmm she has 51% winrate in the highest rank of the game so shes works there too!
>>586145901simply not true
>>586145224>constantly making excuses mother fucker i don't care what their test server looks like they're releasing heroes into the live game they should be balanced accordinglyvalve is supposed to hire some of the best talent and has no timelines or stakeholders breathing down their necks yet they still incompetent
>>586146054>ivywhat happened
>>586145901Looks like the the graves cabal woke up, nerf graves and nerf noskill
when rem minions kill sinners, does he get the buffs
ao3 is down guys...
>>586146119she's fun
>>586146054Quick, nerf Ivy's melee damage again
this the hero people want to be nerfed btw lol...buffs when??
what do i do against people that keep silencing me or shooting me down zip lanes when i escape? This is really annoying and stupid
This game needs a mercy feature where losing all 3 walkers without taking a single walker in return results in an instant loss.Also getting mercy killed invalidates all rank shields.
>>586146203huge hit to the estrogen chugging silver celeste and violet players
>>586146024>watched a danny focus lens and dive/ult a fed wraithgodspeed you beautiful bastard
>>586146243Don't use the zip lines to escape you fucking retard, lab rats have better pattern recognition than you
>>586146119Ivy has been giga busted forever
>>586146119There are duo queue abusers running Ivy nonstop. Healing Tempo and attach yourself to Wraith's ass.
>>586145901>>586146095What did anon know?
>>586146054Has Hollliday ever been bad?
>>586146303i'm low on stamina
Silver is still S+++ tier
>>586145728>nerf gunslop thing that requires aim>buff targeted lock on spiritchad thing when thinking about the direction where deadlock has been heading for the past year, this anon here has just predicted geist's next patch notes
>>586146119ivy has been eternally 52-55% winrate
>>586145728yes, lets nerf skill expression and buff aoe slop!
how come rat king's ult got hotfix nerfed but harrow's didn't
>>586146119if ivy was added as she is right now but in this current batch of heroes people would complain about powercreepshe does too much
>>586146489Drain isn't a aoe ability schizo
>>586146491just look away, bro
>>586146114I'm not making excuses, I'm telling you the situation. you whine like some retard at a fast food joint video that ends up arrested by cops
>>586146489m1gger seethe lmao
>>586146491Because Rat King is also the 2nd easiest hero in the game to play so his winrates were astronomical.
>>586142109NO
>>586146543true, its point and click. even better!
THEY dont want drain giest to be powerful because THEY dont want her to be good again
>>586145076>Scarabs: all damage dealt to and by the enemy charges up the scarab. When the scarab returns to mirage at the end of the effect, the charge is divided as healing to all nearby allies (like the healing crystals)Not a horrible idea but notna great one. The problem here is that it becomes basically impossible to play around the Scarab since doing anything feeds the Scarab>Mark now gains stacks from any hero shooting at the marked enemy, cooldown still applyingI understand you're trying to pivot Mirage in to being more of a support but this is a fucking horrible idea. Mirage should actually have to shoot you to do his thing instead of just letting allies do literally everything for him>Ultimate: teleporting to an ally gives them a big barrierOK
Should resto shot scale with boons
Seven needs a buff, NOW!
>>586137167>venator>idiot proof>has horrible movement and no get out of jail free cards like wraith/haze/victor
It would be better if Graves was pregnant I think
>buy gun items on a spirit character>do infinitely better and kill every enemy 10 times faster while making them deal -55% damagethis will never not be funny, spirit is so fucking bad
>seething about geist buffsShitlow hours.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>spirit is so fucking bad
>>586141048So does any other flyer
>>586147015wow...silver is so honest.
Torrment pulse and raident regeneration should be green items.
So does the “expansion” items increase just the range of Bebop’s hook, or also the actual size of the collision box?
spirit is only good if your name is celeste or baba
>>586146491Honest heroes get nerfed Dishonest heroes never get nerfed
>>586147015>convert 5 spirit heroes into meleemainsWho makes the cut
you know this game has really fun movement and silver and mina are hot af but i'm not sure i wanna dedicate more time to a team based game where i have limited agency. I think i'm going back to focus on fighting games and play this only casually. It's not worth the effort
>>586147015the masses don't know about spirit venator
Just playing coop vs bots since I'm new. It seems like Ivy just stays in her lane and *maybe* tosses some vines in camps right nearby, letting her teammate go off and do camps? I have tried to ult on my self and go off to a walker getting attacked in another lane with nobody there, but they usually get back and take care of it before I get there so I just turn around back to my lane while flying.
>>586147172Both in his case
guesseasy mode it's barrel spam holliday not pick
>>586147172only the range, but you shouldn't buy that item on bebop
>>586147234apolloyamatobillylashbebop
>>586147235You agency is limited by your skill. You can solo carry if you're good enough.
>>586147310my money is on the haze harrow team winning
>>586147310>someone picked wardenharrow wins because only 1 guy buys healbane
>>586147369*if you play wraith and spend an hour playing PvEftfy
>>586147303>>586147336Hmmm
whys there so much geist x harrow art
>>586147536old women kissing is safe horny
>>586147536old women fucking
Playing Sinclair makes me feel like a stage magician >make myself disappear>make the enemy's HP disappear>steal enemy ults>steal teammate's MVPs when we winNo one upstages me...
>>586147629wow..
>>586147629Uhh thats a nipple...
how in gods name is there not a mod that changes what kind of cat calico hasfucking hate these naked wrinkly shits
>>586147629Nigga....
>>586144049>Both black women in this game are model tier attractiveYou know, I think people would hate black women less in media if they casted attractive ones in media that aired outside of BET
>>586147724I'd eat Silver's cookie
>>586147629the post that saved dlg
>>586147629>pierced nipplecute
oof yikes already lost 50% of the players
>>586147950Game isn't even out yet
I wanna play geist but whenever I’m in range to actually life steal I instantly get raped by 4 other people who ditched their lane and were hiding behind a wall to kill me, the universe is forcing me to play assassin slop
>>586147950its a beta, bro
>>586147950its ok doom bro just make sure you don't make such delusional statements as "the game will never go back over 100k, the patch will not bring players back, everyone who wanted to try this game already tried it and moved on" and things like thatit was really embarrassing after last time
>>586147858We just need every black girl character to look like this
>>586147396>>586147458macro diff attacks again, they get walkers for free and we can't take one even after wiping them and getting mid boss so they scale for free
>>586146024Liderally Yamato before the grapple buffs.
>>586147950radiant regen being temporarily removed while a rework is designed would have saved valve.......
>>586147629MODSMODSMODSSSSSSSSTHE ADVERTISERS! THINK OF THE ADVERTISERS!NIGHTSHIFT IS GOING TO CANCEL THEIR MERCH AD CAMPAIGN IF YOU KEEP THIS UP
i give upi can't win lane as mina even when i'm one level above and my creep are pushing. I just can't go in without getting peeled before i make contact
>>586147858>game companies always go for the most gorilla monkey looking black person they can findThat's always been the issue, not even black people like it.
>>586148143wtf is that wardens build at 50k bro u_u
>>586147310>atleast 3 characters that fall off very fast (mina, pocket, holliday) vs 3 carries, mo and nurse harrow
>run into the tunnels at low hp>rats fucking eat me
>>586147950i mean yeah game is more unbalanced than rivals right now. flashy new heros can only do so much
>win game>look at enemy team items>zero (0) counter purchaseswell now i feel like i just won because they misplayed and not because i played well
Feels so good knowing danny will not get nerfed and danny haters will be BTFO next patch
>>586147950C'est fini...>>586148004Everyone who will play it has already found it and is playing it.
>>586147629So glad lactation is finally getting a spotlight with harrow release.
Feels so good knowing violet will not get nerfed and violet haters will be BTFO next patch
HOW THE FUCK DO I PLAY MINA WITHOUT GETTING BURSTED IN TWO SECONDS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN
>>586148498lol
>>586147950150k players? bro this game is dead...
>>586147629>no dickfucking ruined
getting baba violet and harrow on your team is like assembling exodia you would think having only spirit on your team would be bad but no amount of spirit resist helps
>>586148491>having the "If they nerf it, it needed to be nerfed. If they didn't nerf it, it didn't need to be nerfed" philosophy with an IceFrog gameyou are in for a rude awakening
>>586148529Violet will get a proximity nerf by having her core item completely fucking gutted
>>586147950I was wondering why my match quality improved.
>>586148554shes so weak late...its so pathetic..
>>586148283>>586148554land 3 shots rake and fuck off with bats, heal on minion and a t1 camp whenever you can, rinse and repeat
Where are the mokrill nerfs
Danny isn't overpowered, he all-ins to do his burst and dies to focus fire
1/8/0 as minastuck in low prio...
>>586148554That's the price of getting a better teleport than even Wraith. Dodge better next time.
>>586147950This is your esport valvecucks?
>>586147310>spoiler you can kinda build both, no? max barrel, max lasso, get cooldown and duration, pick up curse or something late game if you need it. it's even easier since the barrel burn changes because now duration benefits barrel spam too
>>586148554grit + reactive barrier + extra health + siphon + radiant regen + healing booster
>>586148756Bricklos think he's bad so never
Who we votin for
>>586148787>Danny isn't overpowered, he all-ins to do his burst and dies to focus firewow like 90% of other heros in the game....just focus fire them bro! next you're going to say buy curse to counter [hero]
>>586148756the tanks in this game are all broken
>>586148348I'd extend this shit to Hollywood first (who vidya is copying everything bad from). You'll get loud obese black women in any movie but god forbid someone cute gets cast
Venator's blessed stakes should deal % of max hp instead of having a shitty execute.
>>586149014sorry that you're in shitlow, play some mokrill to get out of there and he won't be an issue anymore
>>5861490143rd lowest hp scaling in the game bro GET GOOD SHITTER lol
>WE HAVE YOU NOW>modded so he has his penis out>he thrusts instead of paws
>>586148554>Play the character whose gimmick is never getting hit and always being able to show up at a fight at max HP>WTF why am I dying when I get hit?!?Nigga. Play Baba or Celeste
i think people are flaming me or something cause they keep pausing and posting but i have chat and voice muted so idk. I just gave up mid phase and i'm practicing my movement jumping around lolol
>>586148787Flight will always be overpowered when coupled with near free movement, the games lack of hitscan and only having a singular item be able to stop him from flying. After they make gravity and phantom strike apply to him then we can talk, but for now he's broken by design.
>>586148989Vyper, obviously. Anthro hero always wins.
>>586148902you could but they couldn't even put a jump pad after ulting they'd never do that
>>586148787Spirit burst isn't even good in this meta unless you have enough damage to kill a radiant regen metagolem outright. Otherwise they will just heal it off.
I love danny ult so much
>>586148989I'm partial to the Cop (?) but I think I'll be voting for the pinhead samurai he looks like he's fun.
i bought curse for danny and he blew up in the last fight and we won because of me felt good
>>586149265radiant regen is getting fucking gutted very soon to be fair
>>586145310aren't valve super fucking picky about barely reworking kits?
>>586149226furries are gay notice the last 3 furries have been men
>>586149367If the average hero is squishier as a result then Danny stocks could be going up. I for one am happy for all the Danny mains in dlg.
>>586149436That's clearly a male though just look at the art.
>>586147234celeste is an actual unicorn impaling people should be the first instinct
>>586147629how many patients' virginities do you think harrow has taken
>UHH FELLOW DANNYTROONS CAN WE SAVE THE CIRCLEJERKING UNTIL AFTER GROUP DILATIONDeadname Tranny will always be a reddit hero, just like Troon Fortress 2 will always be a reddit game. None of you belong here if you play that faggoty hero.
>>586144560all yours my friend
>>586146491Probably because rat king is still better post nerf than harrow is.
>>586149367INB4 RR gets another slap on the wrist, people stop building it, but it's still busted as shit.My running schizo theory is they don't want to touch the items anymore since a bunch of them are getting replaced/reworked come item update
>>586145310I fucking hate graves because she counters any character that doesn't have a fast shooting gun or trades at close rangeyou cannot trade with graves it's so cancer her win rate is so high because she's aids to play against on half the roster
>>586148554Be ahead of the lobby so you don't pop, Mina is kind of weak when she's even with the enemy but is extremely efficient at taking campsYou aren't supposed to be initiating fights, let your team distract them while you fly around the fight and dodge with your bats
>>586147649NOOO YOU CAN'T POSSIBLY LIKE SINCLAIRHE NEEDS A FULL REWORK
>coming from league>try all the characters people say are easy>my movement and aim both suck, feed my ass every game>try sinclair>easiest games of my lifeI understand that he's hard because of his ult requiring knowledge of every ults, but the rest of his kit feels significantly easier if you aren't coming from other shooters. kinda annoyed I didn't try him until I saw someone play him
>>586149648>stop playing danny, stop having fun! pleaaaase stop having fun!
Hoodwink will dominate the vote in the next hero batch
>>586149679so she is more of an assassin that a carry?
>>586149252oh never mind then you meant more playstyle than buildshame, i like playing for early barrel spam and pivoting top lasso picks (while still doing the former in lategame fights after the pick)actually come to think of it she might have been saving lasso in fights for haze ult/mo ult but once you max it the cooldown's short enough to just throw it out there between fights and be fine
>>586149516they better not give her a shirt in the redesign
>>586149648
>>586149725lane can be really rough, and a L-R just straight does not work.
>>586149774>AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE DON'T CALL ME OUT FOR ABUSING AN OP HERO
>>586149807Correct, if you fall behind you are fucked, so you better win your lane and ride that high for the rest of your team. She's a ganker with some teamfight utility in her ult.
>>586149951like i said i can't win the lane, too squishy, even with a creep advantage i can't dive in without getting peeled
>>586145131>moving
>>586149848She'll wear pasties and have no tits because shes a reptile
got a rem foid to add me on steam cya later virgins
>danny toon buys glass canon >remark that he won't get stacks if he keeps dying >he says "I bought it for the damage not the fire rate"
>>586149807Yes, her sustained dps is ass, after you proc love bites and rake you should probably look to get out until you can do it again, Mina is a tempo character so ideally you should always be doing something on the map and helping your team clean up and healing from jungle in the downtime
>>586150138based
>>586150052At the start of the clip he walks straight towards them and then tries dashing but dashes into them and is 10k down with no spirit resistance at all
is there a surrender button?
>>586147629you guys told me Graves is Jewish and yet she is flat as a board here, whats going on /dlg/? you guys are a bunch of liars now?
I love the game but the community seems to be more gayer and more insufferable than valorant and that says a lot
>>586149679nta but adding onto this you want to be invading and stealing enemy jungle when you can as opposed to taking your own, you have a great escape tool to complement your insane farm potential and any resources you steal from your enemy are not only making you richer but leaving less resources available for them, which is a very "sky is blue" statement but it's like if you have ten dollars and take one from someone else there's a difference of two even though you only took one
>>586150286Escape -> Abandon Game -> Yes
>>586150016Then play someone else until you are comfortable enough to win (or at least draw) lane
>>586150318she's also underage
>>586150016Bail the lane, I know this problem.>no one respects you>get shoved under tower>lane mate is also terrible at laning because the alg puts people with similar playstyles together for some fucking reasonJust circle gank between lanes everytime they pushup while jungling (boxes)once you get 4.8k and 1600 in green your good to go but level 1 is aids with a bad lane partner and no fear from the enemy.
>>586150318She's too young to be a titcow
>makes shitters seethe and piss their pants with rageHow does he do it bros?Has any other character made /dlg/ this ass mad before?
>>586150254>actually it's ok if Chessnigger stuns you to death with 8 seconds of rooting and 3 giant aoe stunsI wonder what character you're abusing
>9 consecutive winning streak>the game then punishes me with a 3 straight losses in a rownice game
>>586150207shouldn't i push lanes? Every guide i watched told me to focus on the lane and stick to it like glue.>>586150404i'll try this approach, thanks>>586150382i only like nimble characters, my others are danny and celeste and they are way easier
>>586150494its just one guy
>>586150494Most of the seethe is from one schizo
>>586150286WE DON'T DO THAT IN DOOOOTA *buys magic carpet and afk farms jg*
>>586150494>DANNY *dilates* SISTERS *leaks pus from axewound* WE* injects hrt* WON *joins the 41%*
>>586149674Below Eternus rank she will win a ton of trades by virtue of autoaim. If she is fighting someone who hits 40% of their shots she wins every time. If she is fighting someone who hits 90% of shots she probably loses. She always hits 100% no matter who pilots her so it's like the Graves player is just an NPC that does the same thing every time.
>get a good match>enemies DC within the first 10 minutes>get a bad match>get raped for 30 minutes straightI'm starting to like this game but it feels like I’m getting punished for not surrendering the second things go south, it feels like the better I do the less I play the game
>>586150507I'm not defending it and the character is getting nerfed today anyway, the Graves is just retarded and walked directly into an ability while 10k down with only one defensive item that doesn't do much against 3-4 of the heroes on the other team
>>586150494>Has any other character made /dlg/ this ass mad before?someone wasn't here for old gods new blood
>>586150404what does circle gank mean? If i abandon my companion that guardian is fucked 100% tho
>>586150494the thread was literally and unironically in constant 24/7 meltdown mode when violet dropped
>>586150494literally just one guy.>>586150574oh yeah the greens are usually extra health + grit or extra regen if the poke is really bad.>>586150746This characters discussion is a complete meme and you can barely talk about her powerlevel seriously here.
I feel like I'm the only one amongst my friends who is willing to put personal bias aside when talking about the game's balance. My favorite hero to play out of the bunch is Solomon and I'm perfectly willing to admit a lot of his kit is bullshit, where it feels like other people would simply go "uhh muh winrate. just look at the winrate, it's low! he's clearly bad and needs buffs"It feels like it's literally this>Hero I like has a high winrateWinrates don't tell the whole story. This is just a noob stomper and this hero does not work above bricklow complete lie 95% of the time>Hero I don't like has a high winrateNERF NOW! I mean the winrate speaks for itself, it's le hecking OP!>Hero I like has a low winrate500IQ hero, honest, hard to play, needs buffs. If this character was problematic they wouldn't have such a low winrate obviously.>Hero I don't like has a low winrateSleeper OP, braindead, needs to be nerfed before people pick up on it and abuse it. You cannot take winrates at face value Why the fuck is everyone in the game like that? Do they think it makes them look special or talented if they insist their main is bad and "le honest" like you'll think "Wow you must be really good at the game if you can win with such a bad hero"
>>586150746Why did she make trannies so mad? Is it just because her bola cucks their troonment?
>>586150831I'm glad those retarded chuddies left us. As if anyone gave a fuck about the "lore" till she showed up
>>586150783>break boxes and do t1 camps near lane while not showing on map>wait for enemy laners to fight your laners>gank them from behind>go back to jungle>repeat until they rage quit or its now a 3v3 in midlane (but you now have items so it's playable)
>>586150507there's an entire Z axis in this game where he cannot touch you
>>586150574>shouldn't i push lanes? Every guide i watched told me to focus on the lane and stick to it like glue.the important thing is clearing the creep waves, you have about 30-40 seconds between creep waves to use as you see fit, whether that's farming jungle, running boxes, or maybe even going for a gank if you're quick. if there's no creep wave you don't need to attend to lane as hard but you don't want to miss the trooper wave
>>586150958Everyone everywhere is always like that because they're self-invested, and you can get away with being a nigger if you have even a scant amount of anonymity and/or gumption (see politicians)
>>586150574>shouldn't i push lanes? You do both, when you see the wave around the middle point in a lane and no one is clearing it, go to that wave and clear it and the incoming wave, this will force someone from the enemy team to come there while you have time to roam or take jungle, waves spawn every 30 seconds so you don't need to stay in the lane until someone pushes it back to you, when your wave is pushed up you can also consider going into the enemy jungle if you know where they are
>>586150724I can tell you've never played anywhere near eternus. Graves gun is hard locked at one of the lowest DPS in the game, hitting 100% of your shots isn't guaranteed especially because it requires you to lock on first, actually good gun carries aren't gimped by range, and even hitting "40%" of their shots will still top out significantly higher than a Graves with 100% accuracy simply by virtute of being able to headshot. You should actually look at the fucking numbers before typing your retarded opinion in here.
>>586150958Because nobody likes to be told they're a retard who's being carried, and nobody likes to be told that the character they're losing to is shit. It's also easier to blame the character than it is to accept that you might be bad at the game or your opponent is just that much better than you.
I just jerked off to Violet's feet, thoughts?
>>586150831And it was the most fun the thread had been in ages
>>586150958solomon's abilities are literally countered by not being on the floor, I'm sorry, but I'm not seeing him being this dominating force unless you're a retard meat baller barreling down blue
>>586150958this was before the most recent 6 heroes but i know someone who mains apollo and would say he's garbage and to ignore that he gets picked a lot in pro play because that means he's just a pro play only hero because his pub winrate is below 50%and then he'd point at grey talon and say he's secret hitler and his pub winrate means nothing because he gets picked a lot in pro playit is literally just self invested emotional bias
>>586150958Winrates do in fact, tell the whole story
>>586151384>point at grey talon and say he's secret hitler and his pub winrate means nothingThis is true though
>>586151380>>586151056Seekers will type shit like this when Soloman is considered one of the best heros in the game right now because of area denial. I guess every ground aoe character is worthless now because I can just le climb an ebin wall.
>>586151337No it was shit. We don't condone that kind of behavior here.
>>586150958i main celeste and i can admit her ass does not need four base stamina so i get itsolomon's a weird case because i feel like 90% of the time when i see a solomon carry a game i feel like it's because nobody is fucking shooting him so he's free to sit in the backline and play chess every fight but also his area denial (especially in mid pit which is pivotal) is kinda just objectively strong
>>586151337The threads haven't been the same since s*lver was the unlected queen of nigshift
>>586151575>he is considered the best hero in the game>46% winrate>is only picked for mid contest and his knight in nightshit ???????
>play a street brawl with friends>not a single new character>the newest character was me as Doorman and an enemy Billy and Mina>it was actually fun with everyone but our Infernus getting a legendary and it lasted almost 45 minutes because every round went to OT and was a huge back and forth before we won thanks to me ratting with a door as they killed the rest of my team and pushed ahead to kill our walkerMan i wish every jeet brawl match was this fun
>>586151157Bwo we're building tesla on graves now...
>>586151575Solomon is one of the best characters in the game right now because his ult is good for rift and extremely good for mid boss and his gun and shield give him an oppressive lane, the bishops and rooks aren't part of it.
>>586151380>Dude MoKrill is shit just don't be on the floor and he can't grab you>Dude Baba is shit just don't play a spirit hero>Dude Pocket is shit just buy D barrier
>>586146827Well I mean, it makes you deal less damage already, if it becomes healing instead of damage prevention it's actually weaker.Before:>Abrams hits you for 200 dmg, 50% is prevented (made up number)Now:>Abrams hits you for 200 dmg, 50% is recovered in 5 seconds to mirages allies, can be healing prevented, targets can be killed, etc (would also only apply to damage to heroes)It's a weaker effect with the benefit that if abrams unloads on rat king, even heroes who did not take damage get healed, but rat king in the end takes more damage since the heal is split between all allies. You would also combo the allied lifesteal effect with his mark, so you can apply scarabs before the mark explodes which fetches you a big heal>mark badOkay okay, just brianstorming here. What if, uhhh, mark is left as it is, but whirlwind gives allies you hit a shorter duration bullet evasion? Like for two seconds.
You know now I got to thinking. Do a bunch of character become useless if the mid boss is changed to a chase (like some people are theorizing) then a pit fight? Or are there still enough objectives like rifts/towers/patrons that being able to deny an area is objectively good?
>>586151467Winrates tell 90% of the story, but there are other factors
i like everything about this game except that it's a moba................the setting is cool the characters are cool the atmosphere is cool the movement is cool but fuck man i hate most of the gameplaythanks for reading
>>586151380i can't fucking bounce around forever man i'm not celeste
>>586151780>have to put words in my mouth I refuse your concession and demand you harm yourself with a coat hanger
why do normies in standard always feed like monsters then act like being friendly and silly and personable in chat makes up for it
>>586151834zoomers will type shit like this then won't realize they are casuals that should just read a book
>>586151693>Uhh high level play doesn't affect my pisslow lobbies so it doesn't matter!!!Retard>>586151778The bishops and rooks are just as good at contesting objectives. They're part of the underlying problem that the character gets insane value for doing nothing, even worse gets free damage by accident constantly.
>playing kelvin, neck and neck game, 41 minutes, my team are drooling retards who cant group on time vs a bunch of deathballing broolers>sneak the midboss, kill the mirage and baba who came in to steal rejuv>they both immediately ragequit and we still somehow lose because my tard team tried to base race after snagging a rift and i had to hold the base>dome the patron and put their haze in the no fire rate thunderdome and freeze her to deathif we lost that shit i would have immediately uninstalledi need to get a fucking duo asap
>>586152013im 32 and i like reading books a lot......
>>586151808nta but i think leaving mark mostly untouched is fine, most supports have one unambiguously damaging skill. if you want to give it some supportive utility you could make it so each stack of mark reduces bullet resist, something that wouldn't benefit mirage as much due to his low bullet damage but something his allies could make better use of
>>586152036>squishy backliner>traditional mage>should we try to pick him>NOOOOOOOO YOSHI NERF HIM NOOOOOOOOOW
>>586151780>Dude Pocket is shit just buy D barrierThis one is true though
>>586151240I don't know how you do it.
>>586152004A friendly bad player is better than a good sperg
Why are all Silver players sub 60 IQ
Pocket is literally the best spirit burn abuser in the game
>play against ratking lane>not allowed to win because he autoclears lane with grenade and he gets a 2000hp shield on 5s cdNíce character btw
the player icons are too big to see whats on the map
>>586151834Just learn mobas nigga they're fun.t. dude that missed out on peak dota/lol because he also thought they were lame
>>586152276theyve gooned out their sissy clitty to silver yuri so they dont have any energy to make plays
I got placed seeker VI but these new heroes have basically killed my desire to get try and get into acolyte, its a crap shoot of whether or not you get violet or danny or both
>>586152107Had an extremely similar game but the moment I dropped from the base siege to save our own base the entire team unironically started screaming at me to stay so I stayedWe lost
tried to circle gank as mina and i lost both guardian and walker, oh well
>>586151834this is my first moba and it's pretty fun (I played like 10 hours of dota 2 when it released but that's it)Once you stop caring too much about your rank it's great
>>586152371the fact you still cant ban any of the new character is criminal
The creative director of Warframe https://x.com/rebbford/status/2116159152254865696https://x.com/rebbford/status/2116187713758253127
how schizophrenic is /dlg/ that they switch from whining about the flier that is built to fuck over one hero in particular and then turn around and whine about solomon, whose big weaknesses is being raped by a pick hero especially if they can fly
>>586152276We just don't know.
>>586152356Normal mobas suck dick because the moment to moment gameplay is a neutered braindead rtsTurning that to a legit shooter makes the gameplay actually fun outside of the moba macro plays
>>586152156>Actually my broken character is fine as is because you can invest 6 heros into maybe killing him before he drops a 20 meter radius stun on himself then L moves awayHow.. honest you are.
>>586152453Is it because no one was covering lane and you and your team let it die for free or did it get pushed?
>>586152453your fault for trying high iq plays against 80 iq retards who just run it down lane perpetually
>>586152528The "Anonymous" user is schizophrenic. He has multiple personality disorder. He really thinks he is different people.
>>586152528Someone made a long post about how people have personal biases informing their balance opinions and said that his favorite hero Solomon has bullshit in his kit, which obviously offended some butthurt autists who appeared to screech about how his winrate means he's awful and needs buffs or something
>>586152603you don't need 6 heroes, you have minas, dannys, calicos, and drifters who only exist to kill solomons. >>586152626you're all just pawns to me
>violet with a cutesy name on my teamJust teleport me to the defeat screen
>>586152036>They're part of the underlying problem that the character gets insane value for doing nothingI don't know what you mean by doing nothing, if you want to actually do damage with the bishops you have to be moving them and rooks have to be aimed somewhere, and having played against a lot of Solomons also it's not all that hard to avoid them for the most part. The most value he gets out of nothing is the tile damage on bishops but it's only high at the end of a game because it's tallying up a game's worth of tickling the entire team. If you mean nothing as in he gets to throw and move chess pieces around from dozens of metres away then yeah I guess but he also dies in like 5 seconds to most characters.
>>586152398lesson one of online gamesliterally never listen to your team unless you know them personally
>>586152276The hero is just dogshit
The average /dlg/ user is pisslo and can't comprehend the insane amount of value Solomon gets from his gun, having free rescue beam on a normal cool down abiligy, and a giant AoE stunThey think the Bishop must be the center point of his kit since it's a damage ability when the bishop is just there to help Solomon contest lane and deny space to the Enemy team
>>586151834truth is if this was a generic hero shooter it would be worse than overwatch
>>586151834take a break until the pve mode then
>>586153146Why does every game seem intent on adding some sort of PvE mode even when it makes absolutely no sense at all for the genre?
Decided to give the game a try. Played a couple of matches, but I just can't get into it. The idea was nice, but the MOBA part far outweighs any fun the game could have offered.
>>586152963The gun, ult, and shield were all what I stated made the character good in my first post thoughever
>>586151380>just don't go in the midboss pit bro
>>586153045I don't think that's possible.
>>586153216warcraft three had cool pve maps
>>586153045You're underestimating how unfun current Overwatch is
people only want to fuck ivy so bad cause she’s latina
>>586153217Just learn how mobas work and abuse the system, it's easy as fuck
>>586152963the giant aoe stun is an ultimate with an ultimate cooldown. this hero cannot carry and cannot survive real ganks, I'm sorry if you get retarded pick players who can't perform their job
>>586152963>when the bishop is just there to help Solomon contest lane and deny space to the Enemy teamExcept the best way to contest lane is the double shield on self and his busted gun early onSpeaking of the pieces I think they should be able to be shot and destroyed, why not?
>>586153225None of those are countered by being on the floor
why must I be queued with russian scum
>>586153416you're talking to another anon>>586153391>pieces should be shot and destroyedthey would give him a lower CD to compensate and you would shit your pants over it since it's easier to spawn bishops at your feet and get the damage. and if it's meleeable, all of a sudden his square tiles become stronger
>>586153416Yeah I wasn't one of the guys saying he's countered by not being on the floor which is why I said just now that the other one was my first post.
>>586152606that was on me cause i went too far away to do camp 2 and couldn't get back on time. Anyway nothing really changed, i'm still falling behind in souls even with boxes and camps and i can't do anything with her besides stealing kills. 2v1 i'm fucked, 1v1 i'm fucked, i can only win if i ambush. This char seems really useless desu. But maybe it's me
>NOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CANT LEAVE>HAZE JUST FED THE DYNAMO AND VINDICTA AND COMPLETELY RUINED THE GAME BY BEING DOWN A PLAYER AND GIVING THE ENEMY TEAM FREE RESOURCES>SO WHAT DO IF LASH IS ALSO FEEDING NON STOP AND NOT HELPING WHILE THE ENEMY TEAM JUST SPAMS ULT STUNS >YOU NEED TO STAY IN THIS GAME UNTIL THE ENEMY TEAM IS TIRED OF WINNING AND PUSHES>NO YOU CANT LEAVFE NO NO N ON O NOYOU CANT LEAVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE>WHO CARES IF ITS 35 MINUTES AND YOU HAVE ALL OF THE TEAM KILLS/ASSISTS AND THE TWO DEAFMUTES ARE DYING NONSTOP WHILE THE ENEMY TEAM HAS BASIC COORDINATION>NOOOOOOOOOOO ILL PUNISH YOU IF YOU LEAVE game had a good vibe, but the new map is retard aids and icefrog's autistic retardation weighs down his developers. >>586152963who cares? knight is retarded good, rook is faggoty CC spam, and he's just ADHD aoe slop making visual noise. lamest character next to baba and violet
>>586153525Because even rusnigs don't want to play with rusnigs so they inject themselves into human servers
>>586153382>this hero cannot carry and cannot survive real ganksWOAHYOU'RE TELLING METHE SUPPORT CHARACTER CAN'T CARRYAND NEEDS HELP TO DEFEND HIMSELF HOLY FUCKING SHITWHAT THE FUCK
>>586153365It's not like I'm a stranger to MOBAs, but I can't enjoy it as I did with league and dota.
>>586153601>>>/vg/lolg is down the hall and to the left
>>586153601go play league of shitters, lolg is very sad and lonely without you>>586153639he's not a support
more than anything i hate how much fucking damage solomon's gun does earlyfuck you chessnigger
>>586153601if the enemy team cant finish with as big of a lead as you're acting like they have then the game is winnable and you need to stop being such a raped faggot
>>586153689This may be the singular most retarded post in /dlg/ history
yoshi stop adding heroes that do things, add new heroes that do nothing so I don't lose *sobs*
>He's not a support Solomoniggers cannot actually believe this shit. You can tell they never played Dota. His whole kit is rooted in the idea of area denial, CC and getting your team out
>>586152721he really isn't easy to dive in the backline at all because his pieces do really high damage and he can retreat indoors and if he really as to he can just give himself a 1000 health shield and/or iframe your biggest nuke ability which cripples a lot of the heroes who would dive him. he stalls dive attempts long enough for his team to turn around and look at whoever's trying to dive himand his lowered gravity is abusable, i outschmoove eternus players with it regularly, but i will concede that not everyone is super crazy with movement to do thatLANE and MIDBOSS are two of the most important things towards winning the game, and he is exceptional at both, not possible for a hero with those traits to be badthe shield is a whole other thing entirely, just consider that viscous had 2 cosmetic abilities for months, splatter was good but it didn't really do shit to flyers, and yet cube peel was OP enough to make him an obnoxious hero to play against. it's like if peak cube support viscous had even stronger backline nuking capabilities AND more CC AND better self-peel
>>586153730It's the most obvious nerf to the character, they'll also be increasing the cooldown on his shield and probably the ult, and reducing the multiplier he gets for shielding himself, and I could see them moving the stun from the base ult to T2 or 3. Maybe replace the useless T2 execute upgrade with the stun.
guns and shooting ruined deadlock
>>586153689>the charact who has bad scaling, the classic support gun that's good early and falls off, rescue beam, and a very clear win the team fight support ultimate, isn't a support
It's a good thing you guys aren't making deadlock or else it would suck ass.
Every time I play against Venator I am amazed at how fags here keep downplaying him
>>586153550It's you. She's one of the best at what she does but also unforgiving if you fuck up with her. And getting to that point you aren't fucking up with her takes a minute.
If your a backliner character just stay behind the mokrill
>>586153849still not a support>>586153852you're talking about being dived in a vaccum, drifter blind shuts down his entire kit and he cannot survive danny burst, let alone phantom strike abrams or mo. for that matter, mina rapes him too. the only dive hero he can perform OK against is calico if only because he can disjoint her ult burst if she's predictable about it
>>586153881I wish the rooks weren't aoe slop and he had to rely on good placement to do damage. Honestly the piece hitting someone aught to be buffed but I haven't experimented with him a lot so maybe the damage is fine.
>>586154004He's incredibly strong he's just harder to carry with compared to the other m1 carries because he's a slow fat chud.
I wanna play Rem but I don't wanna be unable to fight literally anyone 1v1 what do I doEven when I have the most souls in my match I still feel super weak
If solomon isn't a support than Paige and Rem aren't supports. What are we even doing here. Are you trying to build solomon as a spirit nuker or something
>>586154004>>586154093how would you guys compare him to warden?ive been playing warden as an m1 carry with some success already
>>586154090the rooks aren't even AOE, they're moving skill shots
If I was making Deadlock I'd remove all the niggers(except Calico her va is really good) remove Deadname Tranny and Kelvin, add swimsuit outfits to Graves Silver and Violet with optional bush toggles for the latter 2(Graves can't grow for shit) add a mandatory slur minimum per game to filter all the trannys out, and disable discord/reddit/forum posting for anyone below Phantom. There I saved the game
>>586154004you're either>a vindicta player that gets 1shot by xbowor>a frontliner player that eats every gutshot
>>586154190He's better than Warden at the moment.
>>586153849when you say support they think healer. If Abrams was still strong early he could be a support even.>>586154097build fortitude every game.
>>586154097What do you like about Rem? Figure that out and play someone who isn't a support who does similar shit. Alternatively smurf and play gun rem.
>>586153689>>586153689>HURRRRR LEAGUE HURRRR20 years later and it's still the basic bitch retort. >>586153776I think I hate posters like this even more, wow, just win! So thoughtful as the enemy team just jungles and base camps and getting free kill paydays with haze and lash seeing who can hit 20 deaths first, let me just pull souls out of my ass. so they have more money and stats, becoming bullet sponges, and every character has stuns, and enough DPS to kill ratking and I through unstoppable. Here's lets do something from Dota pubs? Vote kick and AUTOMATIC GAME KICK if you have a 1:10:1+ death ratio, then deletes souls gained from killing that player.
Everything objectively wrong with Deadlock right now:>Gun items are shit and too easy to counter>Spirit is too overtuned and takes way less skill to pull off>Parry system rewards bad players more than it rewards people who built pressure>Movement autism is not intuitive>New heroes are overtuned to the point which ever team has more of them wins>Celeste and Wraith have been OP for years now>Death balling is too strong for this game to be a moba>Flyers abuse the z-axis forcing you to buy items for things they get for free which is an unfair trade>Too many nigger faggots play this game to have any real banter or fun in all chat
>>586154186>hasn't built spirit burst and imbued mystic reverb on bishopsexperiment with the fucking item shop bro seriously
>>586154278Is very cute. the other heroes aren't very cute
>>5861541974/10 bait
cant wait for calicos upgraded model
>>586154065>Still not a..Go back to overwatch/league/ whatever troonshit you came from >>586154269They're retarded, half the dota supports don't provide a shield or heal at all, Deadlock will be the same when role queue shapes up
>>586154343Based and cutepilled
>>586154269Thanks I'll try that!!
>>586154065>you're talking about being dived in a vaccumi have a 60% winrate in 80 games as solomon and i am speaking from experiencei have escaped tremendous amounts of bullshit with this character
>>586154320you hate icefrog and you hate his design philosophy. stop playing bro, what in the world can I tell you? he's become a multi millionaire game developer ignoring you, he's not gonna listen to you out of nowhere >>586154415he is not a support
>>586154229Wow dude you're so based and right wing that's fr*aking epic.
>>586154404What upgrade? She still looks like a monkey.
>>586154004it's a "high enough mmr that the enemy team focuses the fuck out of you, low enough mmr that your team deosn't help" situation. He's really good but feels weak as hell if you main him, especially when wraith is in the game and she can just winlane against him while also scaling into a monster.
>>586154018i guess, but i don't wanna change to something easier. I like what i like
>SHITclair>shitforehead>shitginnisvs>nurse, rat, gravesyea i lost
>>586154190warden is tankier, moves faster with 2, can buy spirit. but his flask feels extremely shit to use right now and his gun has been nerfed really fucking hard. if you try venator you'll notice the difference in gun dps and instakill ult against low hps/squishies, but you'll also be killed much faster and get caught much easier because of his 0 mobility
>Try Sinclair in a matchThis dude does nothing
danny downplayer brags about low winrate like his cancerous ass kit wont send him to the perma nerf gulag with doorman and sinclair
>>586154065>he cannot survive danny burstIt's the opposite, Danny is one of the easiest characters to get away from on Solomon because the dive is so telegraphed you can always iframe it, and then you warp stone after that and you should be perfectly safe unless you're massively out of position.
>>586153550You should watch an eternus level player on Mina and see what they do and try to understand where they're going at what time, it sounds like you have issues with the macro more than the hero itself, one thing with Mina is that you should almost never be resetting to base, you need to abuse her rake healinghttps://youtu.be/z3pACI8g3dECheck out MikaelS maybe, he's one of the best players right now
>>586154493I'm gonna be brutally honest here, the playerbase has not caught up. I understand you escape bullshit, but people will eventually catch on that heroes with on hit burst and shut down ults like mina destroy solomon and his shield is his only defense. there is a good chance knight will get nerfed anyway, so you'll feel that meta development
>>586154494I guess you solved it, threads closed boys, stop making new generals and discussing it
>>586154635i could not have said it better myself it's exactly what i said in my original post
Give ivy a huge juicy latina ghetto booty
>>586154493nta but on one hand you're right, on the other you can't talk because you don't understand how comically retarded the lower ranks are and that warps "good" players perspectives on balance. This is why smurfs play shit like haze wraith, playing someone that is easily dived is pure fucking hell down here.
>>586154728I have strong doubts you have contributed much of anything to these threads or to deadlock as a whole >>586154738>>586154635>still haven't caught on to shadow weave danny
>>586154494>UHH YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND ICEFAG LIKE ME WHO DOESN'T UNDERSTAND SOLOMAN IS A SUPPORTGenuine retardation or bait? Someone help I can't fucking tell anymore
>>586154878I just cannot comprehend wasting life playing a game designed by someone whose design philosophy you hate. I mean, seriously bro
>Solomon cannot do [[[ANYTHING]]] to flyersYes please keep spreading this propaganda so people don't get wise to the fact you can abuse low gravity OR buy a warpstone to snipe flyers out of the sky with rooks
FUCK THE TREE ON GREENBURN THE TREE ON GREENCHOP THE TREE ON GREEN
Give calico a huge juicy black ghetto booty.
patch today???
>>586154996It's a hero shooter. This genre attracts these types.
>>586155085Next week at the earliest
Calico should have a faux Egyptian aesthetic because she's definitely the kind of trashy nigga pretending to be sophisticated that would
>>586155145It's a moba though.
>>586154996>play fighting games>troons>play moba>troons>play shooters>troons>play crpg>troons>watch anime>troonswhich hobby is not infested at this point?
>>586154607>Warden Flask nerfed to move in super slow motion because getting hit by it would be unfair :<>Rat King Grenade auto jumps to your position and it's counterplay requires to expose yourself instead of just dodging away What's even the point of powercreep in a game without skins or character unlocks? Or is it just design creep where at some point they decided every character's abilities needed to have fucking everything on them?
>>586155301there's only one constant
how would you describe celeste's role? she's a mobile caster who can clear farm relatively quickly but she doesn't have as much nuke/burst potential as someone like mina or pocket for assassinating, but she's not really a hyperscaling farming carry, she has plenty of healing options especially with radiant regen being core on her but she's not a tanky frontliner or anything, sure it's easy to spam aoe and get value but what would you describe her focus and goal in teamfights as?
>>586155301Bodybuilding, it's just a bunch of gay men
>>586155350her role is to be my wife
is this a mod? Maybe i tunnel vision too much but i never noticed these indicators
>>586155350spirit skirmisher
>>586155301I'd say being a fan of professional sports but if you ever sniff online communities for that shit it's all faggots. P sure hockey is the only sport with athletes that will outright refuse to wear rainbow shit.
>>586154989Answer the question, is it bait or are you retarded? Icefrog has designed numerous supports without a hearing ability. You're pretending to understand his design philosophy yet so boldly putting your ignorance on display.
>>586155409There's trans bodybuilders bro.
>>586152519what the hell
>>586155484>red dotSTALKER'S MARK
>>586155350aoeslop dispenser
>>586155301All of these things are for autistic men but there are a lot of autistic men who want to become women. Pinning bathtub estrogen doesn't make them not autistic men unfortunately.
>>586155554edded to file.png...
every single lane partner I have just goes in for retarded all ins over and over until one side parries the other. I don't understand why we can't just chill and farm minions, especially when we have a weak lane or a strong carry. god I fucking hate duo laning in every single moba but somehow in this one you HAVE to do it
>>586155442big portion of the shut in autistic loser demographic got turned
>>586155524icefrog designed solomon?
HOLY SHIT THEY REMOVED RADIANT REGEN
>>586155651Ok so retard then. Thanks
>>586155350Spirit Tank/Bruiser thanks to RR abuse. You get in people's faces and be an unkillable demigod doing sustained damage with your abilities and torment pulse.. If somehow your HP drops to dangerous levels then you get to abuse having the best movement in the game to fuck off back to New Jersey
there's no way this guy isn't a bot
>>586155350I think of her as a spirit carry, usually only gun gets to do consistent damage
>>586155710oh you
is there a matchup chart that shows me which lanes are strong against other lanesi dont wanna learn this by playing 200 hours
>>586155442Big pharma and cosmetica have been pushing tranny shit to create more customers, trannies are a cash cow
you guys are replying to an attentionwhoring IndianAll he posts are these screenshots or him being chat banned
>>586155798No, there's too many variables in duo lanes
>>586155628i play shooting game to shoot at people not to idle
>>586155484nope, not modded, the buff/debuff indicators have always been there, before CNS update they were grey long bars on the edge of the screen rather than small green ones though
>>586155798hold on let me think about it
>>586155880I assume the guy is replying to himself because it's the same posts and the same replies every day.
Add in 4 lanes so I can solo lane as graves
>>586155442Actual answer? There's a p good substack titled "Inauthentic Selves" that illustrates how it was astroturfed by a certain "Pritzker" family around the mid 10s by some trans billionaire with high level media and political connections. Dude basically funded the media blitz around Bruce Jenner when he trooned out as well as pushed through a billion studies to "legitimize" the pink pill. There is a non zero chance this shit will be looked back on like lobotomies in 25 to 50 years.But my answer here is fuck off with the screenshot posts and /pol/ sperging.
>>586155880no he's unironically replying to himself
>>586155798It's more or less learning how strong each hero is and not specific matchups
>>586155880Because we're retarded and fall for ragebait. Nigger needs to fuck off to twitter where Elon will pay him for this shit.
>>586156054>>586155880but his hands show he is 100% white
>play almost exclusively supports heroes>nurse is out and seems like a wet dream for me>play few games with her>literally can't do nothing by herself and relies on your teammates to actually enable your hero>don't want to play her anymoreFor some reason, I never felt like this in other mobas with similar characters.
>>586156008how do i defeat graves
>>586156235you have a cock, right?
has mikus ult always been this dogshit
>>586156218dynamo is much better at carrying
>>586156235She is a summoner her main duty is to push lanes
>>586156218They should make her gun somewhat better so a gun build is more viable so long as you have high leech stacks after they gut her healing
>>586156265yeah but im rem so it cant really cum yet
>>586156218>this support hero>CAN ONLY SUPPORT? WHAT THE FUCK
>practice movement and aim>everything goes down the drain in real matches cause you simply don't have enough frames to make the game feel fluidpain
>>586155301Sports is the last bastion
>>586156218take the leech+melee pill brother
>>586156430yeah ive got the same issue, my game legitimately freezes for half a second every other time a big happens too
>rift coming>goes to farm a lane with no walkers not even push just farmhow do you win
>>586156430>>586156595saars
>>586156403not a negative
>>586156235Always be ready to defend walkers from a surprise zombie infestation. If you are a carry outfarm her, and if you are a ganker pick her off when she over extends.
>>586156595switch to fullscreen instead of borderless windowed and disable hardware acceleration in discord if you have itfixed it for me
>>586155301>>586155442Autism, excessive internet usage, porn addiction, loneliness, being susceptible to lovebombing and quite a few are victims of grooming or child abuseAlso Deadlock
>>586155798>>586155979here u goas for matchups, squishy heroes should avoid huge burstsmelee should avoid heroes like bebop or fliersweak/passive laners should avoid going against roamers
>after match of dotawow ez clap ok next game / wow fucking dogshit team im stop queuing>after match of deadlock...i just wasted 40 minutes and i feel nothing
>>586156737oh ive already done both of these but thank you anyways tech support cat
>>586156907im a cleaner
>>586155871just like how you are circumcised
When are they adding a speedster character? Dashfernus is close but not quite
>>586156430I would start with just random wall bouncing, not holding w and using your heavy melee as a means to get extra distance. Those few things helped me a lot.
>>586156862check every box except the last one cause i'm asocial and antisocial. Thank fucking god
>>586156907This but the exact oppositeDota is draining and not nearly as fun
>>586156995buy stamina mastery
>>586156871>paradox bad laner>mirage bad laner (????)bricklow detected
>>586148138But she's just... fat?
Why do they make us look at Vyper's asshole every time she uses the zipline?
>>586157143oops found the only mirage player in deadlock
>go into the subway/tunnels>get lost and can't find a way out for like 45s >its not even where I wanted to exist and now I have to spend even more time from where I exited getting somewhere I should beI fucking HATE THISHow long did it take you guys until the map wasn't a cryptic maze of hell
if I see higher than normal ping I'm just afking absolutely nothing good ever came from these subhuman matches
>>586156404That hero is proof that 2024 deadlock is dead. Can't wait for the update that adds mandatory role selection for queue.
Mirage is good you just can't aim
>>586156871nice rage bait, but>venator>baba>victor>vin are not lane bulliesand>sinclair>mirageare
>>586157306You have to punish yourself with an hour or two of running around in the tunnels in practice mode
>paige and kevlin on high prio>keep getting normal chosen victorweird game.
>>586148787>not over powered>ult 100-0s youWhy do you lie?
>People always complaining about Danny being obnoxiousKelvin is unironically 100x worse desu.
>>586157420try buying a green sometime
>>586157357>mirage only requires hitting a bodyshot every now and then>this is too hard for /dlg/grim
>>586157357Good one, anon
>>586157429I haven't seen a Kelvin in my last 100 games probably
>>586157418I also get Victor all the fucking time
>>586156907Tonight.... is Friday night.....
Why can Kelvin just use his ult to full heal and freeze wave ?
The map has enough side objectives icefrogPlease don't add any more
>>586157342it was always just semantics, every hero could still fit the standard 3 roles no matter what retarded new ones you come up with
>>586156404Dota 2 supports can be pretty dangerous and arent just healbots, plenty of them can carry the game if given the opportunity so harrow seems out of place from other valve games
>>586155245I miss the release pose DESU
>>586157749Got it, adding rooflock objectives around mid.
>Load into a game>This nigga starts to already cry about me>Don't even know who this nigga is>Before we head to our lanes he goes "going to throw this game too?">Literally don't even remember who this fag is unironically>Silence for two minutes>My lane partner does a stupid play and dies>Fag who was complaining about me earlier>"Oh is anon throwing your lane!?">Get on my mic and call him a nigger faggot and tell him I'll gladly put a .45 between his eyes if that's what he wants>He stops talking after that and proceeds to just run it downThis game needs avoids, I can't be getting these people who remember me for a possible bad game or misplay or whatever, but I have no fucking clue who they are. If you're so terminally online that you remember someone's name and play this game nearly every waking moment but are still in the same rank as me something is wrong.
>>586157749Maybe a side objective you can use that reveals all the enemies on the map. So you can find and kill violet before she gets to mid
>>586157478You also have to hit scarabs to be fair.
>>586157357He's a lane rapist and his TP hard carries my ass in shitlow where everyone's macro is shit. He feels bad though if you don't get farmed up and get your ricochet with a billion on hit procs to rape teamfights. And as far as I know you don't want to go rico before EE
>>586157749I WISH it hadsince when living in jg is a fucking objetive, it looks like it is BECAUSE I'VE NEVER FOUGHT A 6V6 IN MY LIFE
Doorman. CheckApollo. CheckSolomon. CheckI'm ready for ranked bros. See you out there!
>>586157749i fucking hate what he did to dota
>>586157802They ran out of time to design the heroes so they just made the medic from tf2.
>>586157154ohhhh yes she is >:)
>>586157885New seeker elo terrorist deployed
Violet. CheckCeleste. CheckGraves. CheckMina. CheckI'm ready for ranked bros. See you out there!
do mobas not have different maps or do we just not have any other ones till the game actually comes out
>we lose walker to minions>even with 3 of them dead the 5 of us can't push one for shitI'm gonna have a heart attack ANYTHING BUT DRAFT
>>586157802harrow ult is plenty dangerous and isn't surefour spamming carry harrow?
DEATH TO THE HIDDEN QUEER
>tell a rape joke on enemy team>my own team starts crying and bitchingwhy are amerimutts like this
Warden. CheckMirage. CheckKelvin. CheckViscous. CheckI'm ready for ranked bros. See you out there!
>>586158031idk if replacing the slender kweenz we got with chubby hogs would be an upgrade, anon.
>>586158174how did you switch to the enemy team
>>586156404no other deadlock hero has this level of cuckeryI can play ivy and if my team mate sucks I can just pick up the fucking gun and shoot my enemies and win the game
>>586158078Let me explain it in a food analogy for you. The map is the plate the characters is the food. Every time you can order something but it will always be the same white plate. Sometimes the restaurant will order a new plate with fancy beading but its still the same play. But sometimes some restaurants pull out special plates for stuff like halloween and christmas. But when the season is over its back to that white plate.
>>586158174Why do Indians think that rape is funny?
>>586158174uhmm rape is not funny and nothing to joke about sweetie.
>>586158078Dota never did. League used to but no one played it so they deleted it. Smite had a bunch but no one plays them either.
>>586158078LoL had a second map that was shut down in like 2019. Alt maps do awfully in MOBAs. Best you'll get is ARAM (which deadlock can't even fucking do right)
>>586158230>two giganerfed characters>one powercrept off-meta character>and kelvin who has a better bebop ult as a normal abilityi don't get it
>>586158078mobas generally only have one map, as far as i know heroes of the storm was really the only one to shake it up and try having multiple
>>586157820>yoshi finally adding more rooflock stuffIN HERE I AM KING
>>586158409does league of legends still have dominion
>>586158130Her kit outside of her ult makes sense but her ult just straight up breaks fundamental rules of the game, like not taking dmg during the ult
>>586158401depends on the thing getting rapedi mean rem getting raped is pretty funny
>>586158174Sounds like you weren't funny
>>586158296Yes Ivy is a hybrid, not a support.
>>586157841Rip now you are comms banned because the troon is triggered.
>>586154996>look for gay ass faggots>find gay ass faggotswhat are you hoping to reveal here?
>>586157408>sinclair>lane bullyMaybe in 2025. His laning was powercreeped by other heroes since then and just got nerfed recently. In statlocker he has horrible laning stats. If you don't give him the bridge he literally can't do anything
Now that I've ranked up a division, I will become the elo landmine and play characters I don't normally play
>>586158485Bro that shit died before fucking Treeline did
>>586157841useless comm = instant mutesimple as
>>586158640cute
why does paradox deal 0 damage outside of carbine, like this gun does less damage than warden
>>586158640Valid prio, she's been freelo and boosting shitters for months
>>586158567In dota 2 you can call people niggers all game(no blacks play dota 2) and the worst they will do is have a race to figure out which race you are so they can insult you more specifically
>>586157408vindicta is the queen of mid lane though. and>sinclairanon he's nerfed as fuck, paradox carbine does the same damage as bolt but is 10000x easier to hit
>>586158695but, butits fast....its fun....
>>586158858A few anons here got raped by Sinclair and have Sinclair Derangement Syndrome as a result
>>586158752:3>>586158787me me me
who is the Hitler of deadlock?
>>586158590how do you take bridge from sinclair when he has it? i imagine shove wave and take it when he has no assistant up? there's not really any cover if you're both on the bridge and trading with sinclair while assistant is up is a ticket to pain city
>>586159131Rat Fuhrer of course.
>>586158810As the way it should be.
>>586158779Because she can drop bombs on mid boss
>>586140060based dynabro
>>586159131literally Mina HAAAAAAAAAAA
>>586158301i get it's not like it matters as much as actual shooters where people just memorize the meta peak spots and a new map breaks that up but i feel like it would still get boring they could change up the look of the map at least like having snow in winter
is there any way to communicate to the community to stop using the forums, its just one giant humiliation ritual where people genuinely think posts there get read by the devs
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>>586159305Dota did that for awhile. The look is like the one thing they will play around with but MOBA philosophy generally is to have one map and tune the fuck out of that for better and worse. We just came off the whole broker gimmick where he'd sell busted ass items at 30 min, there will be more shit like that
>>586159340I don't think I've ever seen anyone outside of here mention the forums at all
>>586159282off model garbage
>>586159324It's sad how many retarded faggots Deadlock has that actually think like that, Yoshi included
>>586159324Good idea, but too many words. I rate this slopjak a 2.9/10
>>586159282on model gemerald
>>586159324shan't be reading... danny is an honest hero...
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>>586159324>VeantorHow is the weather in punjab?
I have come to an insight:Mina is better at the ranks where you are low enough that people don't know counterplay (run her down while rake and your lovebites proc is on CD), and high enough that you aren't facing retards who will run you down after you blow your burst on them. She's the midwit counter, she beats those who are too afraid to manfight.
>>586159856this applies to bebop as wellif bebop puts a bomb on you it's over he already got the stack, running won't help just make him regret getting the stack
YOU WILL BE LE JUDGEDDD XDDD LIFTING XDDDXDXD LELELELEELELLE LE 2 NIGGERS OF ONLY VIABLE CARRIES IN EVERY GAME LOOOOOOOOOOOOL
>>586159150>i imagine shove wave and take it when he has no assistant upYeah you're correct. Even if he has assistant up if you can manage to dash under the bridge he can't really do shit. Unless he's in a perfect position to harass you with bolts it's really easy to outtrade and bully Sinclair.
why are haze players so fucking bad
celeste is so fucking easy man, character plays itselfat least she is fun af
>>586161889The movement stuff is hard... I figured how to do most stuff as Shiv but I still don't know how to bhop with her
>>586161889unless you play above pigeon where people shoot you and you die in 0.3 seconds
>>586168343So which shitlow rank are you? She does good in my lobbies (Eternus)
>>586168343RETARD ALERT
