Drifters Weekend of Horror Edition>Latest patch:https://www.playdeadlock.com/cityneversleeps>Latest Balance Patch:https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450/view/680765564125186045>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/https://deadlock-api.com/>Unofficial CompetitiveNewshttps://edl.gg/https://www.deadfrag.com/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>586188681
someone tell me whose good now
dwiftabros, are we back?
'eeded tu bloo....
Harrow milking Rem's cock
Is radiant regen even worth it on anyone? Felt mediocre on geist.
>>586212479It's still good on Shiv I'm pretty sure.
Gonna build Warp Stone on Vyper tomorrow I have a good feeling
>hits two knives in your pathYour response? (if dispelled, has 5 (4+1 from RR) more knives to hit with)
Rat King: Base bullet damage reduced by 5%- Rat King: Bullet damage growth reduced by 20%- Rat King: Scrap Grenade - Damage reduced from 70 to 60- Rat King: Scrap Grenade - T2 damage reduced from +70 to +60- Rat King: Scrap Grenade - T3 damage reduced from 300 to 275- Rat King: Scrap Grenade - Fuse timers increased by 0.1s (first bounce from 0.8s to 0.9s, later bounces from 0.7s to 0.8s, T3 final explosion from 1.5s to 1.6s)- Rat King: Scrap Grenade - Meleeing the grenade now gives it at least 0.4s before it explodes (if less than 0.4s was left on its fuse, the fuse is extended to 0.4s)- Rat King: Rule, Ratannia! - Knockup duration reduced by 50%- Rat King: Rule, Ratannia! - Cooldown increased from 160s to 180s- Rat King: Rule, Ratannia! - Now goes on cooldown when stunned/slept before placing it. In that case, the flag is placed in that position but without any of the initial impact effectsRat king is now an honest hero like Billy
How are we building shiv now bros? Still one-shot or back to knives?
>>586212627Yeah I guess Shiv is pretty crazy if he has four T4 items
I fucked up the captcha, and those 30 odd seconds made a differenceit's so fucking over
Is gun Drifter the way now?
>Abrams is no longer the mid boss monster because he can only slam 2 crystalsLOL
>>586212604yeah but it's shiv, you could build literally anything on him and still contribute to a win.
tips for Vyper?
>>586212758Yea pretty much.
>>586212313Baba is still brokenGT was already good (assuming you can play him competently) and got buffedWarden is playable again, maybe actually good
>>586212630>do ZERO damage>all he can do is tank>ZERO SUSTAIN as a tankis he useless now?
First game as Dynamo, man this is so fun. It feels like a simple support hero with so much potential, specially with that Ult...
IT'S TIME TO CHANGE THE WORLD
>>586212851Baba is just going to be another Shiv or Celeste
>>586212627i hate shiv so much its unreal
>>586212717No matter the patch, I'm always playing melee Shiv.
>>586212748but he's the rape monster now because his gun damage got hella fucking buffed
>>586212728i wouldn't go so far as to say "the way" but it's a respectable bump to gun which makes it more of a choicethat being said hitting a fat rend is my lifeblood so i'm probably still going to be rend-centricmaybe i'll go back to hybrid builds
>>586212873imagine being that paige..
is this aura
WE HAVE YOU NOW
Is billy back?I'm a bit put off by the apollo nerf I need a new hero
>- Juggernaut: Health Regen increased from +8 to +15Excuse me why shouldn't I be building this on every hero?
>>586213194lmao no
Your clip m'lord
>>586213086you didnt open All-chat to start ERPing with them so, no.
>>586213057all the builds I see and follow like a retarded uncreative chimp seem kinda hybrid anyways. what with hunters aura, burst fire, etcI'm just gonna keep doing what I'm doing
>>586213218because by the time you get it everyone has 3k+ hp??r
So gun rat king is dead?So its just tank or meme plague builds?
who keeps inviting these 3rd world retards to the playtest?
>>586213419I played one game and the opponent had a rat king and they lostIt's over
supportbros, are piggy's builds good?t. ivy/paige/rem player
3 losses in a roweach time I got paired with someone who died more than 10 times in 15 minutes
>>586213526Damn it truly is over>>586213520Me, cousin Miguel really wanted to play
>>586213419Played 3 standards and 2 brools and I kept getting Rat King so his pick rate is definitely lower
>doorman buffs>abrams buffs>lash buffsyea I'm thinking this patch is incredibly based
WHY IS EEEEEEEEVERY SINGLE MATCH A STOMP????WHY AM I GETTING MATCHED AGAINST OBVIOUS PREMADES AS A SOLO??????WHAT IS GOING ONNNNNNNTHIS GAME HAS THE SINGLE #1 WORST MATCHMAKING I HAVE EVER SEEN
>>586213528Not bad, just kinda boring since he goes very very support focusedI prefer more damage builds while buying one or two support actives total
>>586213528conditionally. they're good SUPPORT builds, caps for gay emphasis. if you get matched with retards, playing full support is a death sentence.
>>586213026
Guys, street brawl is BACKPlayed 5 gamesNot a single dannyAoe slop is much lessRat king is eating shitI see varied teams againAw yeah
>>586213528Good if duo, bad if you're an insane individual who solo que support builds
Here's your chatgpt draft, bro.
Seven needed more buffs imo
>>586212959Yeh there's no getting around the fact that she steals a shitload of spirit and scales her spirit res with spirit in a game where the majority of the roster deals majority spirit damage.What were they thinking.
>>586213194>apollo nerfhuh?
>>586214043>- Seven: Static Charge - T3 stun duration increased from 0.9s to 1.1slmao i didnt even notice this
Silver is now SSSSSSS+++ Tier, stop complaining
>>586214004>yamato player complainingyou are the single highest liability on the team. everyone offers utility in some fashion if they are getting beat. You're just dead weight. Also Holliday can 1v11 with barrels.
>>586213960im still not playing street brawl but I am impressed that they fixed the new heroes so fastI was expecting them to have the new tag on them until december
Mohammed and Kareem... Please Yoshi, save them...
>>586214004wel CUM to the baroness
>>586214154I mean its nit hard to fix when all the issues was just numbersThough I STILL argue that violet needs her ult reworked
>>586212313you(:
>>586214132S++++++ILVER
>green walker still up>yellow walker still up>i got blue 10 minutes ago>4 teammates still just run down blue over and overyoshi please blacklist anyone with more than 200 hours in overwatch or marvel rivals from playing this game
>Radiant regen is too strong>Lets gut every HP regen item in the gameHang YoSHIT.
>>586214201I thought you guys were exaggerating until I realized I scrolled over it. that shit is brutal, what the fuck yoshi
>>586214336it was incredibly based
>>586214043Lightning scroll was buffed :^)
Is this a joke?And they also BUFFED Infernus?Why are there untouchable heroes in this game?
>>586214132Bola still doesn't work on Mina or Vindicta btw.
>>586214437Bricklo post
>>586213086VVarden bros?? Are we finally back?
>>586214437and buffed geist, only 2 strange decisions imo. best patch since before OGNB by far
>>586214437They can't nerf Celeste cause she's one of the only characters with a meaningfully different playstyle from the rest of the roster
>>586214437seethe
Complaining about Infernus is a huge self report
>>586214579That's not Doorman
>want to unlock danny on my alt>need 5 more wins>literally 3 games in a row he's been banned so I just abandon the third timeyeah they need to fix this shit
>>586213286God DAMN it, Ronnie, stop tweaking on the bed, you're making us look bad!
>>586214579Mashing low CD AoE slop abilities is not as interesting as you think it is.
why do turrets literally do no damage in this game?
lash and pocket still need nerfs
>>586213194No, his max 2 is still worthless.
>>586214695
theory crafting>play Abrams/Billy/some melee hero>go for the usual standard melee items>also pick up Disarming Hex, Suppressor, Phantom Strike, Metal Skin, Trans. Cooldown, Duration, Juggernaut, Rebuttal>chase Silver around the map and force her into a melee-only BROOLfest if she ever wants to use her ult
Honestly feels like the frontliner meta is back to a balanced state now. Abrams/MoKrill/Billy are all around as good as each other again and the RR frontliners got taken down a peg, though Shiv is still brokenNext character archetype that needs a pass like this are the supports.
Damn Silver is a beast late game if feed
I'm surprised by how much they gutted Harrow, she kinda has NOTHING right now? Anti-heal was giga buffed and her heals were nerfed, her ult is kind of a joke now, and she has no damage potential because even her gun was nerfed so...? What does she even do?
>>586214695just play on your main retard
You're now throwing the game if you don't buy healbane on literally every single character btw. Only Venator has an excuse not to buy it.
>Rabbies Ronnie in the hideoutWhen are they adding Valerie?
>>586214978Shitlos still consider her OP because her ult forces them to reposition
>>586214978Rat King and Harrow is throw pick now
>>586214201They should make Krill be able to shoot while you're burrowed so I can go gun Mo
>>586215015My main was calibrated 3-4 ranks below my alt and is inhabited by the dumbest retards imaginable. Like genuinely uncarryable mouth breathers. People in oracle arent good either but mystic/raccoon/ is just true utter dogshit. Gun carries wont do boss until you tell them to and sometimes not even then. It's just waiting for retards to afk farm for 25 minutes, waste of time
>>586214132fuark bros who's going to stop her when she gets too powerful
>>586213086Why do you refuse to aim for headshots when building gun items
>>586214145bricklo speaks
>>586214978Harrow was cancer so I don't care right now, maybe in a couple weeks we can think about buffing her again.
silver before she was introduced to alcohol in high school (official valve art)
>>586214201Molested and killed
>Rat King deals no damage>Zero sustain>Ult giga nerfed>Only has a shieldWhat does he even do now
>>586213086bro...what is this fps LMAO
>>586214437did you not see that they gutted her core item
>>586215327His ult is so busted he'll probably still have a positive winrate. They should cut the size of the aura by half then buff his gun.
>>586214132holy fucking shit 0.5 regen PER SECOND???VALVE?!? HOW IS THIS SHIT OKAY???
>>586215327Tank and ultbot
>Newherofag when they have to suffer playing on the same power level as any other hero
>>586215345RR is still good though
>>586212627my response is I probably wouldn't have 0 items at 45 minutes
>>586215345Bricklos can't understand things like context
How do you think it feels to be a MOBA game developer, knowing the majority of your player base hates the game and is more often than not miserable or angry while playing it but still play it due to the skinner box dopamine shit?
>my honest reaction to this patch as a Violet main
>>586215432They are STILL playing broken pieces of shit AoE slop nigger heros.Harrows ult is still just Rem ult 2.0RK ult is still Kelvin ult 2.0 Don't give them an inch.
>>586215571You don't listen to the players and continue to do whatever you wantIt's already been proven that moba devs can put out completely fake patch notes with imaginary placebo changes and the player base at large will act like things changed when not a single number got altered. You can't trust a word the players say
>No one picked Rat King in 4 gamesIts that bad huh
Rem's ult can still hit you through walls btw
>>586215683The fuck is that Silver build?
>>586215780its a beta
This patch already feels way better than last patch, even if some of the nerfs were bad.
>>58621497830 damage per second in a 35m radius
>>586215327Bomb build is his only calling right now
>>586214825You need to rush EE for that
>>586214201?Am i missing something here?His """nerfs""" mean literally nothing.
>>586215764I don't even have him unlocked now hopefully they remove the retarded win requirement next season
>>586215761It's less about that and I'm commenting more on the fact you make a product that produces a lot of negativity for the average person
>>586215780>rems ult still does the thing it explicitly says it doesyeh dude and victors ult still brings him back from the dead, crazy
>>586215087explain this fucking image
They gotta add a big chunky alt-fire to harrow with a cooldown to make up for her dogshit damage and zero offensive abilities.
>>586215683Realistically what are you supposed to do against Shiv in this situation?
>>586214124They removed the stun on his second ability and replaced it with an immobilize+parry prevention. It's waaay worse now.Technically, if your opponent stands still and does absolutely nothing, it's a side-grade for melee Apollo since he gets two heavy melee hits for 'free' after the second upgrade. However, in most situations, your opponent can just fight back and force a trade. Riposting certain heroes is also now a death sentence if they have certain abilities up.There's more to it, like the interactions with debuff cleanses, pre-parries, etc.The nerf was absolutely warranted but they went a bit too far. It also forces him more into being a melee character, which seems to be less popular of a playstyle than spirit.
>>586213821@claude fix the matchmaking (again)
>>586215780Just look away from him and his ult does nothing
>Danny remains the most balanced new hero since his introductionhow does he do it
>>586215895>>586215805Rem's ult hitting you through walls is a fucking retarded design choice and can only come from someone who has never in their life played a shooter before RetardsDon't fucking reply to me again
How does avoiding heroes work?I've had 4 Russian Viktor subhumans in my games in a row and I never want to see this drooling feeding retard nigger character again
>>586215921I wish I could
>>586216013By being an all in burst hero that's also a slow flyer with Mo and Krill's hitbox
>586216019they're not going to "fix" a deliberate design choice that is probably the single strongest thing about an otherwise very mediocre character
>>586215921Mina and the gang tricked victor into letting the girls "clean" his foreskin for him. Valerie felt left out since it wouldn't fit so Violet being the nice girl she is let her taste some of his "milk"
No Dynamo buffs?
>everyone just has infinite stamina because of candiesThis fucking update.
>>586216053it doesnt
>>586216235party game
>>586216053Whats the re to explain? You basically cast a vote ban. Then then game checks who voted who in the lobby and bans accordingly
>janny every lane myself>get all 3 walkers myself>get all 6 base guardians myself>get both shrines myself>lose because my team has absolutely no macro and just keeps deathballing (and losing)when are the tourists going to drop this game because until then i think it might be unplayable
>>586213218Juggernaut was already a universally great green this seems winmoreish
>>586215878>scaling from 1.1 to 0.6>AND an additionnal -10% dmg to all his abilitieshe's a tickle machine and can't kill anything without help
>>586216053it's a button that does nothing
>>586216235inb4 item update has consumables and the candies is just yosh getting that sweet sweet early data collection
>>586215809NO ITS DOESNT YOU FAGGOT REM HAVE YOU EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT HOW US RAT KING PLAYERS WERE RAPED THIS PATCH FUCK YOU
Astounding how many people make the wrong decision literally 100% of the time in this fucking gameI want hero shooter tourist niggers to leave
>>586216319>scaling from 1.1 to 0.6oh no he lost 12 damage on scorn at max boon
Silver status?
>>586216373RK is still fine, now you aren't just good at most things.
>>586216290Maybe Marvel Rivals will have a good update and draw them all away
>>586216319>The unkillable rape machince that disables carries can't also shit out dmg nowThe horror.
>>586216235When did you stop having fun with things in life?
They're adding a battle pass soon.
>>586216535Regenmaxxing!
>consistently low winrate players want to nerf the consistently high winrate playersstaggering implications
>>586215961>It also forces him more into being a melee characterhow so? they only changed his 2 while fixing some other stuff to make his life easier
>No one talking about how they killed Viscous ball combos for no reason.>All while buffing his most brain dead skill.
Am I hallucinatingDid I just hear Seven say "It's over, Danny." on the win screen? wtf we were against a danny...
How is Deadman Danny so relentlessly honest?
>violet nerfs>look inside>violet buffs (LoS on still life still broken lol)
>>586216860All's Fair!(tm)
>>586216743I have a lot of games on Viscous but being able to heavy melee as you transform was always kind of a retarded knowledge check, and it had so many different timings it was annoying to deal with even if you knew about it. Unfortunately Viscous isn't a hero that's allowed to be good until they make cube even worse because the second his numbers are okay he gets spammed in comp and all the streamers cry about him.
>>586216893This is a Source engine problem btw
>>586216290thats not what deathballing means
>>586216743Splatter is still bad by the way, it got 9 more damage at T1 but the last damage nerf to it cut its base damage by 15 and removed .1 scaling.
MoKrill players are so spoiled that they think doing reasonable damage for a tanky disruptive frontline characted is a back breaking nerf (MoKrill is still one of the strongest pick characters in the game btw)
Thoughts on Graves nerfs?
>>586216514>>586216609m1gger seethe
>>586216743no one cares about this dogshit troll hero lil gup
>>586216535Still has less base HP per boon than *checks notes*Every carry in the game except Haze.
worse eomm than rivals
>>586216942It was a niche technique that enabled a lot of skill expression, I can't imagine a world where that was unfair/unbalanced. I don't care if they take away his numbers, but making the character dumber is beyond retarded.
>>586216982i didnt even describe what theyre doing you fucking chatbot
>>586217341>It was a niche technique that enabled a lot of skill expressionSorry but cube is broken o algo so he can't have that
>>586217237Tankchad that is sickned by the blatant favoritism actually.
>>586217186changes nothing, bad players still gonna get got by the wall, good players still gonna avoid it. bullet damage nerfs are mostly nothingburger because its the functionality of items + the passive that makes her gun do good, not the base damage.
Imagine if billy and abrams had half as much as mokrill
i just had a game where not a single teammate contested a single rift for the entire 50 minutesim so fucking tired of hero shooter tourists
>>586216743btw, Infernus and Paradox can still literally do exactly that.
>>586217607abrams is overbuffed this patch what more do you want
>>586217630this unironicallythey should be gone now, yet all my fucking games are just drooling retards running down broadway and there's a useless nigger viktor on my team every fucking game
>>586217630rivals taking over nigga#swagonem
>high priority Drifter>keep getting other shitGIVE ME MY FUCKING CHARACTER I WANT TO PLAY OR ADD DRAFT YOU FAGGOTS
>>586216726'forces' was too strong of a word, sorry. 'Incentives' would've been more appropriate.Typically, spirit builds are less bulky than melee ones, since it takes more investment to get going. Since this new version of Riposte doesn't prevent your opponent from acting, it's far more risky for a spirit build to jump into the fray with it as they usual lack bulk, comparatively.Of course, builds can be adjusted, hybridized, etc. However, since the ability already reduced melee resist, and now has the perfect timing to allow Apollo to charge two heavy melee hits exactly (if nothing goes wrong), I think it's fair to say they made these choices to further promote melee Apollo. That's not inherently a bad thing, just not as popular of a choice.
>>586217607i wish billy and abrams had half as much of as mokrill has
Amazing Redditors whined about Rat KingWhenever I'm stuck in a lane with this fat shitskin he does FUCKING NOTHING because his retard-proof kit has no fucking agency
>>586217630You say hero shooter tourists but this is just how bad moba players work, there are people who've played dota for thousands of hours that play just like that.
>>586218186The only problem was that he was just too tanky
>>586217668>Gutted HP regen this patch>4 more dmg on Siphon T3 Okay buddy.
>>586214004>>586214145It actually went pretty well teehee
>>586218406>ignoring the GUN BUFF making his lane better and his overall burst betterwhat are we doing buddy
>>586215950BLEED
Radiant regen on Victor yay or nay? I'm gonna play him for the first time.
they fucking killed mo&krilland nobody even caresyou faggots are all gonna say "good" "no&skill"FUCK YOU!
>>586218714good desu senpai
>>586218659Nay. That item was always dogshit on him, idk why newfag victor players got gaslit (by eido lol) to buy radiant regen + tp and start fighting like he's Celeste. Buy torment pulse improved spirit and start ricing.
WE HAVE YOU N-ACK
moron
>>586218574Ah yes, Abrams, the character known for using his gun a lot in lane.>>586218714They should have raped them harder.
>>586215961>>586218063I feel like they would need to bring back the freeform riposte if he can't stun people now so it's at least a good escape tool.
^I'm trans btw
>>586219089how did you know
Valve always nerfs the fun parts of character's kits I would much rather have a weaker ult than a weaker kit on 99% of characters ult bots are fucking boring as shit
>Dany got nerfed I hope low elo shiters finaly shut up
>>586217630They're not tourists when they effectively superseded the original playerbase. They're systemic demographic shifting immigrants.
>>586217339go back to rivals you trash
revy sexo
>>586218186i seriously think the nubuild for him will be spirit instead of gun and just chargemaxx and durationmaxx with rat shreddinghis gun sucks, his grenade is more of a nuisance, you're just there to play distraction man and i guess let Wraith play the game
>>586219291no im going to complain on reddit until yoshi makes the games more like rivals, killing daedlock, THEN go back to rivals because it will have bee nfixed by then haha
>>586215809>Carries hyper scale faster now>Tank players that are suppose to hold carries back from hyperscaling raped in front of a live crowd >Good patchFucking kys Remtard.
>Load into match>Mirage on my team>Light a cigarette and enjoy wasting 30+ minutes for a guaranteed loss"yeah I wanna play the mechanically intesnive turbo dog winrate poo in loo because I like his design" - no sane man ever
>>586216942can't wait for cube range to be nerfed to 3 meters, splatter having bounces removed, punch autoparrying itself and ball autodriving you into the enemy spawnleave my goo thrower alone, fuck, it's been nonstop
Do candies exist in ranked too?
what determines if you get the hidden king mask? is it random?
So what is Holliday's ult good for?
>>586218714The classic rape their normal build so hard they have to work out some janky gunshit build instead
>>586219730Dragging the enemy carry out of my ult range.
>>586219204he's only nerfed against people who counterbuy, sitlo will never be ok so long as he has the ability to fly
>>586219467He can hecking make other heroes invincible though.....
>>586219730pretending your 50 hours of trick jumping with the barrels was worth it
>>586219475yes, this shit is so dumb.i'm not playing until they're out of the game, not like the game is worth playing when all the weekend players are on anyways.i really hope they aren't using this to test reactions for having a similar mechanic in the base game.
>Solomon and Graves ground effects no longer cheatFinally we can tell people to just jump over it.
my powercreeped chudling...
>>586219904>i really hope they aren't using this to test reactions for having a similar mechanic in the base game.They are forcing people to learn the locations. I bet their statistics showed something dismal like only 0.9% of players or something like that ever picked up a healing bug in the average game.
games like these really make me wonder why I even play this game
>>586218946>Ah yes, Abrams, the character known for using his gun a lot in lane.Yes, have you never seen a good abrams in lane?
>>586219925People are really bad at assessing the power of supports if they think Rem is bad right now
can someone fire yoshi i'm fucking tired of dogshit updates
>>586220106Have you seen any Abrams build gun items ever?
>>586220046if they wanted people to use them maybe they shouldn't have done such a good job hiding them.fucking idiots i swear.
>>586220046they're kinda out of the way and heal for jack dick, I dunno what they expected
>>586220202>Have you seen any Abrams build gun items ever?we are just LARPING huh?
>>586220202Have you ever seen Abrams shoot his gun in a game of Deadlock? It is a base damage buff you retard. It's active when you spawn into the game.
deadlock threads are so hostile now ;_;
>>586220458>now
>>586220126not what that post says, retard.
>>586216726A stun is a crazy powerful thing to lose from his kit. All he got in return was turning off enemies' parries. They clearly meant to turn Apollo into the next melee enjoyer.
>>586220802it's a bit of an extreme change but also the stun made laning against him miserable sometimes if you were playing the wrong dude so fuck him
>>586220802riposte was always a melee focused ability, he's not the "next" melee enjoyer he already is one.him being able to frequently cancel a shit ton of ults with it was stupid.
>>586220081can anyone explain to me what im supposed to even do here, do I just turn my brain off and act like the game didnt happen? how the fuck did our team have 10 total kills and theirs had 37
>>586220106>1,365 gun damage instead of 1,300we're reaching Silver levels of 'BREAK GLASS IN CASE OF NERF EMERGENCY'someone stop Abrams stop him STOP HIM WE NEED TO KILL ABRAMS OH LORD THIS IXIAN WON'T STOP SHOOTING ME FOR PEANUTS AUUUUUGHGHHH
>>586221237>life threatening disease......is funny! it just is ok???
what do we think about new midboss
Mischievous
>>586219370more of a roberta guy
>>586215894the best thing you can do for your player is make a fun game
TL:DR for the patch notes?
>>586221304@grok do rats die from rabies
>>586221095As an occasional Apollo player with like 40 games on the dude, I totally agree it was bullshit against Seven and the like. But it's definitely not equal compensation to give him a parry disable and an immobilize. Apollo got nerfed very badly.
>>586221561Violet deadMo&Krill deadYamato deadShiv dead againRat King deadWraith still OP
Okay Icefrog you can give Billy actual buffs now please
>>586221801LIFTING
>>586218569That Warden was changing the World
>>586221830Billy was never bad
CELESTE IF SHE WAS GOOD
fucking baffling to reduce so much of solomon's weapon damage. do they realize how completely fucked this matchup is, early lane, against heroes who stay in the air a lot? try fucking fighting a danny as solomon once he gets jetpack. your entire kit is fucking USELESS and its too early to get knockdown. the only counter before was doing minor gun items early and using solomon's half decent gun. Now its basically throwing to lane AT ALL against a flyer because they nerfed solomon's gun into the fucking ground. retarded bullshit and no amount of buffs to hit spirit, slow, queen, or piece grab/move distance makes up for this. there virtually no matchups in this game that are unwinnable in the way solomon vs a flyer is now
>>586221830billy will always be a meme character having to rely on melee to function with no way to set up a 100% guaranteed meleeparry = death
>>586221687his heavy melees are more consistent now even if they fixed the buffer glitch people were abusing.and now you have to deal with debuff remover just like everyone else in the game, deal with it.
>vortex web immobilize makes doorman kidnapping extremely easy to pull off nowjoechuck won
>>586221887Rare lewd mod that's actually hot
Wardenbros are the buffs good?I need to play a tanky character with my duo Seven and i'm thinking he would fit perfectly.
>Buff Calico who was already overtuned>Another tiny slap on the wrist to WraithIt's so blatantly obvious with every single patch who the dev favorites are.
hotfix?
>>586222089the black characters? every single one in the game is always strong
>>586222007hes still shit but hes not a horribly useless throw-pick anymore
>>586220202lil gup don't know about 2024 gun carry abrams...
>>586222007The Flask is much harder for people to dodge, and with the (minor) increase in speed on his Willpower it means that chasing is more in your favor.Minor buffs but they can be felt
>>586221919yeah not feeling bad for a solomon abusing faggot.
>>586221561Random ass balance changes that are either nothing burger buffs/nerfs, and zero performance fixes or crash fixes
>>586219425you're acting like phantom strike was removed from the game
>>586219204>danny got nerfed>its literally just making counterbuy items work on him the same way they work against everyone elseyou niggas cannot be serious
>>586222153Devs and Streamers sure do love them don't they?
>>586222153Why does every black character have an annoying escape ability?
>>586221561mo & krill got their damaged halvedkidnap doorman given CPRviolet ult destroyedharrow still op but she can actually die nowwarden slightly less uselessradiant regen + healing booster meta dead
>>586221919slowing hex
>They put up the halloween mode>1 day before october ends
>>586222302You're acting as if hyper carries give a shit when they're 30k ahead of you and can also deal spirit damage
I want Skyrunner in the next bunch of characters and I want him to basically be picrel.
>>586222165>>586222191Aight.Should i buy monster rounds on him?
>>586222519how they can spirit burst a phantom striking abrams into shoulder charge. this combo is like a hundred years old. he also just got buffed with the hunter's aura change
>>586222564It helps you keep wave prio in early game, so it's not bad.
>>586222007gun scaling is still really bad, ult scaling is still badright now he's a tempo tank m1 that falls off. if you can stomp a early victory with him he's not F tier bad. he unironically benefits a lot from a pocket healslut that makes him even tankier
>Victor takes the longest to get online as a tank>Fucking nerf himAre the devs high?
Hes not evil anymore
>rat king being on your team went from a guaranteed win to a guaranteed loss
>>586222812where nerfs
As Drifter, should I always gank lanes when I got ult unlocked in laning phase? As well as buying Veil Walker or Shadow Weave?
this game has the potential for some great "Meet the Ritualist" style videos and I hope Valve doesn't drop the ball on them>Meet the Drifter>a group of younger vampires, including Mina, are having an audience with the Viscount of New York>he tells them not to go after the Drifter if they value their lives>cuts to a familiar coat from behind as the vampire wearing it walks into a bar>flashes his fangs at the homeless man next to the door as he walks in>immediately cowers the barkeep into preparing him a 'drink'>gets threatened by two younger vamps but easily shuts them down>homeless guy from earlier comes in and sits next to him>"Say friend.... that's a nice coat."
>>586222497opponent being slower in the air doesnt really solve the problem, especially now that my gun is caca
>>586222949>Radiant Regeneration nerf>Healbane changes
>>586218714goodno&skill
>Buff anti-heal>But also buff all the healing/lifesteal itemsSo...
>first game of the night>0/11 Infernus and 2/17 Silver on my team>unmute voicechat>literal tranny voice coming out of the Silver>mute vc again and practice box runs until the match is over>try to requeue again>oops, download another patch :)yeah I'm done for today, gonna try my luck tomorrow
>Looking at voice lines>Everyone has unique voice lines for Dynamo ult and Yamato ultDoes the character just yell it out or do you have to do a specific ping? Because saying they have ult ready is completely different from saying don't get too close to Dynamo.
>>586223042There's going to be over a 100 hundred ritualists at some some point, doubt they'll ever do it
>>586222874he's just lowkey evil now
>>586223127>radiant regen victor>>577844618>>577845480
>>586222812>Playing tank VictorJust buy Scourge and glue your face to a single lane bro.
>>586223261Why does a game need this many voicelines? Doesn't it just make development take longer?
>>586223390At some point they'll use AI for it. Fortnite and The Finals already use it.
>>586223390Anon it's literally just the voice actor sitting in the recording booth for a few hours. The hardest part is getting them all in time for recording.
bored as shit. any fun meme builds to play different heroes on? (winning optional)
>>586223390They stopped doing ability lines after Viscous
>>586223375Why would I not buy it when I'm using my AoE combined with my 2 to further increase my healing output?
>>586223615apparently the doorman VA is notoriously hard to get into the studio for recording despite him literally just being a dude, some amateur theater actori think one of the devs has said not to get too attached to any of the current VAs because anyone can be replaced for Reasons
>>586223736not gonna argue with you, retard.build your dogshit item and lose your brick games, i genuinely do not give a shit.
Street Brawl is great again! Rejoice gamers! Now I don't have to feel forced to play standard Deadlock anymore. A joyous day!
>>586223804qrd
What's a fun build for McGinnis that isn't turret spam or gun build.
I WANNA PLAY WITH RABIES RONNIE
>>586223850Rat King's grenade does not cover the entire battlefield and guarantee him 40k+ damage every match anymore
>>586223947>that isn't [the only two things that she does]Fucking go echo shard wall and larp as earthshaker I guess
>>586223758unless valve is personally flying him out to their recording studio every single time they want to do something and also doesn't conflict with his schedule, I don't see the issue in a regular guy putting a shitty moba on the backburner
>Mo and Krill raped and gaped >Celeste un-nerfed You brought this upon yourselves, deadtards
>People still want to pretend Deadlock could be esports with balancing like this.Honestly fuck esports, just make the game fun
>>586224096that's still turret spam because the walls are 2x turrets
>>586223615>The hardest part is getting them all in time for recording.That's what I'm talking about
>>586224194then rush healing tempo and max 2what the fuck kind of answer are you looking for here
>>586223850Well they nerfed the entire new cast, and then they nerfed them again for Street Brawl. They all ate double nerfs essentiallyRat King is a pathetic cuck now from what I've seen
>>586224141It's Icefraud at the helm, he has a weird boner for esports
Billy beating bigots bloody
>>586221887I want to visit her "private" circus shows...
>teammate is a massive retard in lane>can't poke>can't last hit>no pressure>still a retard in the mapHow do you even win with this?
>Candies scale with the match timerThis shit is insane
>>586221887that's not horse celeste
>>586224656>teammate can't lanelegitimately just let the enemy take guardian.losing guardian early sucks but spending the next 8 minutes just feeding them while trying to defend is infinitely more detrimental in the long term
>>586224656if that happens i just wait until boxes are up and then leave the lane
So who are avoiding this patch?
how do you build vyper
Shiv feels extremely good right now. None of his changes looked that significant but I am just shitting out damage. I think I might lean hard into purples/greens again
>>586224417Billy's an asshole, but he's not a monster
I'm too stupid to understand the ramifications of these Apollo changes.Is he dead?
>>586225350He's been enhonosted
The egg meta is back btw
>get retarded subhuman that sells items and runs down lane>call him a retarded subhuman >get chat restricted for a weekSo griefing and cheating is fine but calling them out isn't?
>other two lanes feed>now massively behind>enemy team now has big soul advantage>enemy team is always playing together>I am drifterit seriously doesn't pay to queue sometimes
>>586222631LIFTING
Shadow Weave Danny
>>586223947Ult ginnis. You can skip the Rapid Recharge shenanigans and go straight for EE + Unstoppable. The ult does a lot of damage if the enemies don't fly or have a million bullshit dashes (good luck finding enemy comps like that though).
Healing booster changes made Silver completely dogshit, just remove her from the game please
>>586222631>>586225616Sorry, I guess I should elaborate more.So a character like Wraith will take, like what, 1/4th of her HP when she's 20k ahead? Then she says LIFTING, spams her cards, gets all her HP back, disarm wears off/she uses dispel like all Wraiths do and now Abrams is dead
TIME TO LET OUT THE BEAST*tries to runs away**gets stunned off the zip**dies*
>zero holliday nerfstroons run this game
>>586225753It's a complete dogshit change overall
>>586224298the only thing they didn't fuck on RK was his 3 so now he's just a fat sack of shit that sits there and takes longer to kill
>>586225350He is now worse than Billy.
>>586225857They nerfed Healing booster because people used it in combo with Radiant regen. Heroes that don't buy RR but NEED HB hot fucked over as a result
Any Yamato afficionados?Do you think RR and Heal Booster are still worth buying?
Tesla Bullets/Capacitor on Warden, yay or nay? I'm a low rank shitter but my theorycrafting so far is>Capacitor has spirit scaling>You build spirit on Warden anyway>This is a good thing>However Capacitor synergizes with heroes with huge clip sizes or fast as fuck shooting(Wraith, Ivy)>Warden shoots slower>This is a bad thingThoughts? Obligatory nigger word to verify this isn't a leddit copypaste or chatgpt spampost
>>586225990No. The character is ridiculously good without them anyway.
>>586223947>>586225680Yeah, Ult Ginnis is all we have anymore. You "might" get a tiny bit of mileage out of Hybrid gun and Spirit for said ult but you'll never outpace the hyper carries, especially with the farming buffs
candy seems ridiculous on Victor bros
>>586223947Oh and don't forget to add stuff like Heal Booster/Tempo and Greater Range to also have a support role
Best part of the Halloween update? Halloween fanart. The art department at Valve and fanartists carry this game in general.
>>586226038>hey guys do I fitin guys i said the heckin naughty reddit word look at me virtue signal im just like youIt is a shit item on Warden
>>586225350Completely dead? No, but I do think he has lost a lot of his appeal from a competitive standpoint. Riposte being able to cancel certain abilities reliably and quickly was massive, alongside it being a strong laning and survivability tool. That's also why it was, deservedly, nerfed.However, he wasn't really compensated all that well for what he lost and he's now lacking a bit compared to other similar heroes.I'm unsure how things will end up shaking out, but I assume we'll see some sort of hybrid build pop up as his new default and he'll exist somewhere in the below average range until the next patch hits.
>>586226182it's ridiculous in general, anyone snowballing is that much worse to deal with
>-Comeback goldFUCK OFFFFFF ICEFRAUDTELL THE DOTA TEAN TO RELEASE DARK CARNIVAL 2 ALREADY
>>586226272Why? What are good endgame gun items for Warden then? (Excluding the mandatory Spirit Overflow obviously)>greentextI did it because last time I asked a longer gameplay question on here two different posts accused me of being a bot and of being a spammer copypasting off of leddit respectively
Glass cannon Silver is the move desu
>Start a fight as Victor>Kill their Wraith>Ult>Kill Celeste>Die>Start expectating my teammates>They were all poking from far away
>>586225350you play tank melee apollo now
>>586226456from the looks of it the move is not having an inting yamato and punch infernus (or, as i call it, inthrownus) on your team
STOP LEAVING LANE I don't fucking care if you can get 10% more souls by farming boxes don't fucking leave me along on lane
>>586226392maybe instead of mimicking the low quality posting habits of retards you could just ignore them. just get AP or spellslinger
>>586226646why have I been seeing so much punchfernus lately, it's so annoying(when he's on my team)
I'm really fucking sick of these developers
>>586226706Clingy alert
>>586226706shut the fuck up sissy. watch the pos1 daddy carry this game
>First game into rank>Doesn't go through since someone left>Its counted as a defeatWhat the fuck is this system?
>>586226309For interest sake, what are the similar heroes? I like Apollo for being slippery as fuck, who else fits that bill then?
>>586226810i really have zero idea, it's so fucking badi can forgive a cheeky spirit snatch or MAYBE a melee charge to make your ult even deadlier if stunned by it, but i draw the line at crushing fists
>>586226706>Haze leaves lane the moment sinners spawns>Does double sinners then another one somewhere>Comes back 150 hp dies instantly, feeds enemy 500~ soulsKek
>>586226889>>586226865I will feed if you leave me alone I want to play deadlock not hide behind tower and farm wave simulator
>>586227021Play mirage and teleport :)
>>586227021Okay then you're going 0-9. Not my problem.
>buy crushing fists>get parried>diewhy would anyone ever play a melee build unless you're abrams and can set up a guaranteed punch? it's way too feast or famine. if I punch someone as yamato or drifter and get parried I'm literally just dead.
>>586227075It is your problem because you are going to lose the game
>>586227152No I'm good enough to carry you even when you fail to hold down a solo lane and then throw a tantrum and feed. It's your problem.
>>586227192sure you will lane leaver
There's seriously no build variety for Billy other than melee. Is it possible to turn his SMG into a long range mini gun?
>>586227130>unless you're abrams and can set up a guaranteed punch?netcode shanigans will mean you'll get parried even from guaranteed stuns from your T3 charge + superior duration
>>586227294You can't be so bad you're dying in a solo lane on Ivy lmao
CHUDZU BOMB
>>586227350cause I actually try to fight the enemies instead of farming wave like a cuck
>>586227456Your hero is bad at that for most of lane even with another guy there
>>586227518I know that but at least I'm trying unlike you lane leaver
>>586221887I wish there were more lewd mods like this. I'm tired of the "DUDE LOOK AT THIS HYPERINFLATED ASS" *boing boing boing*
Why did they add a cuck chair
>>586227650there are not nearly enough attractive male characters in this game doorman and billy that's it
>>586227704That's for you, my king
>>586227704So your bitch ass could have a seat
>>586227729you are attracted to women bub
>>586227704mina needs somewhere to sit
>>586226917There's not one hero that matches him exactly, but there are a few that share aspects. No one quite moves like him either. Lash would probably be the closest analog in terms of movement, but he plays quite differently. Ivy is also notoriously hard to chase down due to her stone form and flight, but that's more about outlasting your opponents. Calico has the same general gameplan where you dash in, get a kill, dash out, but you just stay grounded for most of it. Also has a melee slant to her abilities.Mina's second ability certainly makes her hard to pin down, but she doesn't come close to playing like Apollo.If I was being literal, I guess there's Vyper.
>>586212316i couldn't help myself, seen this image too many times and the face just looked too off every time. no insults to the original artist. just wanted to adjust certain things that i think are errors. their recent work has shown a lot of improvement
i feel like im doing a lot as mcginnis but her job just doesnt appear on the scoreboard
i like to play graveswhen the enemy gets mad in all chat and calls my character braindead i get a little boner
>>586227787It's called having taste
what keys did you bind your abilities to?i just find 1234 very hard to press on the fly
Im still working for several more hours, did the patch save the game? Are the Hitler heroes dead? Who are the new Hitler heroes? Whats the new thanos item after they deleted Radiant Regen?
>>586228014fruit fly
>>586228130
>>586228060Just copy eskay's keybinds she made a video about it. They're really good ngl
>>586227924I'll give Ivy and Calico a look then.Big reason I like Apollo is because while he is slippery he also doesn't just blink in, nuke you and blink out. His burst is a little spread out which is fun to execute since I also have to be evasive while doing all that shit. Get to be an Assassin and kind of make space by being an annoying fly that buzzes around you.
is there a place where i can view information about specific abilities? i want to find some retard tism way to maximize the damage of danny's flamethrower ability, but the actual flame part
so is victor just omega-fucked now that healbane stacks?literally what can he do?
>>586226706i don't like that it incentivizes you to leave lane in the early gamemaybe it's a consequence of the 2x2x2 forced 'meta' but it's annoying af when someone runs off to hit boxes while you're trying to clear the wave, 1v2, protect your guardian, AND not feed in the process
yoshi was mad that rat king already had more art than his transbian waifus silver and celeste and nerfed him into the ground out of spite
>>586226917MinaCalicoYamsCeleste
>>586228219the fabled support victor
>be me, danny enjoyer>double digit kills every game stomping the early/mid period every time>doesnt matter cause I cant kill walkers/shrines on my own and suck at contesting bossshit game
>>586228254they've watched enough youtube tutorials to know that hitting boxes and sinners is important, but not enough to know that you need lane prio before you leave
>>586214437celeste's aoe spell cd is nuts
which (3) solo carry characters would you fellas recommendim so fucking sick of dealing with actual mouth breathing retards who manage to go 0/7 before laning phase properly ends
>>586226706You tell em support sister!
>>586228412venator if your positioning is good, haze if you want to go for pick offs, wraith if you want a mix of every playstyle for carry
In LoL if someone dies a lot they gradually reward less per killIs there a similar system in Deadlock or does my 0/12 Drifter feed the enemy an equally valuable amount of souls every death
>>586228412WraithWraithWraith
大和(Yamato)に対するQRD(クイック・バランス調整)について。今回の弱体化は実際に大きな影響があるものなのか、それとも取るに足らないものなのか?
>>586228412Take your pick depending on personal playstyle and mmr bracket.
>>586228412sevenparadoxdeadname trannies
>ira domini's new damage doesn't outscale the old damage until level 34people tried to say this wasn't a nerf btw
>>586228551:^)
>>586228582ヤマトは死んだ。ご冥福をお祈りいたします。
>>586228604>venator is good at high ranks youre just bad!
>>586228710Seriously? It's worth the same no matter what?
>>586228412Bebop.I can be 1/7 in lane and still have done the most dmg in the game.Shit is nobrain af.
>>586228604reminder that wraith avoided nerfs btw
>>586228854bebop damage is fake damageit's like rem pillows
Do you guys think that once Deadlock is fully released, custom skins will no longer be allowed?
>>586228219Build gun
>>586228896project mind nerfs are bretty good but yeah she still deals way too much fucking damage if she just spams 1 at you
>Rem downplay out of nowhere
Now that moe is dead, what arcanist should I pick up?
>>586228896She's the only pos1 of this game now. Relax
>>586228929Inb4 "reeee corporate bootlicker" but I cannot fucking wait for Total Mod Obliteration.
>>586228929i hope not because i'll be using mods to make everyone use the default skins. if that's not possible i may unironically drop the game because of it.
>"oh noooo I've been nerfed soooo hard what do I even do now!?">changes nothing in the build>kisses Silver>proceeds to the ritual as usual>wins
>>586226706>>586227294*impregnates you*
>- Victor: Aura of Suffering - T3 increased from +15% Damage to +16%Victor Chads... We are so back.
The real reason why Danny is so loyal to Fairfax is because they are hiding his real cause of death. One day he got really horny and stuck the Chimera up his ass while he jerked off and this unfortunately blew him to bits.
>>586228582はい.We'll probably see more people experimenting with spirit builds, but I assume some sort of hybrid melee thing will still be perform the best generally. The range reduction of her FSlash hurts but is mostly negated with just Mystic Expansion if needed. The Radiant Regen nerf is not great for Yamato either, but it may still be a worthy purchase. Needs more testing.I don't think it's over, but she was certainly negatively impacted. Always have hope.
>>586228929Almost certainly.
>>586228929no? client side mods have been fully supported in valve titles for years. cs2 is stricter, but there's people running around as their fursonas in tf2 lobbies as we speak
>>586229104cuz everyone else was nerfed too
>>586229186expansion is a dead slot on a hero that's starved for slots
>>586229141Why did they do this
>>586229224Dota got rid of my custom killstreak announcer mod once they started adding paid ones.
>>586229260Yeah, true.Not sure if the average Yamato build can really fit other range expanding items in either.
>>586229224There is a difference since CS2 has its own model player skins, not just cosmetics on top of the model, which is most likely what will happen with Deadlock once they start releasing skins. They will crack down on mods.
>Make any attempt at punching>Get parried instantly and deleted since the stun lasts a million years>Go to parry myself>Never counts
>>586229053You know it'll be going from optional ugly lorebreaking skins to official paid lorebreaking skins you cannot disable, right? nothing to celebrate here
>>586229186I look like that
heroes that are always trying 3x as hard as everyone else in the lobby for mediocre results:>paradox>holliday
????????Where is Mo mask?
>>586229493The side effect of cosmetic mods being disabled in favor of official cosmetics is all the ((((quality of life)))) bullshit getting nuked as well.
what the fuck do i even build on violet now someone explain this hero to me
>>586229516just say you can't aim
>>586229551The same things but you don't max your ult 2nd anymore
geist is so bad
>>586229328>how fun is it to play as this hero>the average of the results was 2.9/5
>>586229630faxx bro she's such a BADDIE
>>586225990Fuck no
>>586229691don't reply to my posts ever again
"How Bad Can I Be" from The Lorax(2012) but it's Danny engaged in war crimes as part of live weapon trials
Bros I thought there were no anti shield items?
Yeah...I want to make skin mods for Deadlock, but I'm worried that they will eventually just get nuked and that my time will be wasted.
>>586229473they will absolutely crackdown on mods, im not saying that's the case. i fully expect qollock to get a notice to adjust things or face a ban>>586229493>muh lorerabies ronnie is officially in the game, and you're concerned about a consistent internal universe? come on, man. it's set-dressing for an online competitive shooter.
>>586229745my bad gang
>>586229850i personally do not think a couple of voice lines referencing a rat that has rabies is comparable to cosmetic cancer like this
>>586229473CS was like that long before they added agent skins. The nature of CS just means that changing player models can yield way more of an advantage. If you play something like ESEA, it'll even kick you until you remove the official ones.
>>586229850Rabies ronnie is actually kind of funny though.
>>586229769this + lucky shot on an all in gun carry is very VERY funny, since lucky and APR can proc on same chance and people will say you're cheating in bricklo
>Mid-Boss: Roar now happens at 25% HP instead of 50%What's the fucking point of a roar if there isn't ever enough time to react to it? May as well fucking remove it. Is Yoshi terminally retarded?
>>586229516Paradox, sure. Holliday, no.
Did they just forget that tanks need HP regen or something?I sincerely don't understand the extra regen nerf
>>586229935THIS is what you guys wanted violet to be? i think we got off lucky with her current form
>>586230079It should be at 66% in fact.
>>586230051true>>586229935admittedly, also true. i concede desu. that looks hideous.
>>586230114Yes, we wanted Violet to be a dumb baby
How long will it take for valve to sell a k-pop mina skin from the workshop and kill the game's artstyle?
>>586230110Brother we are eating good
>>586230110which tanks are buying healing booster?other than that extra regen didn't get nerfed.
>>586230079try having some map awareness instead of expecting the game to blow a horn to alert you when its time to run mid for a heckin wholesome aoeslop fight
>>586229935I do wonder how cosmetics are going to work in the future.Valve loves letting you mix and match shit but I also don't see a world where we have TF2 or Dota's system either, but I also don't just want it to be league style skins either.
Nerf Bebop.
>healbane stacks at like 35, 58, 73, 82, 88, -92% reductionay caramba
I just did so poorly in a game that my whole team paused the game to check up on me
LET'S LE NERF EXTRA REGEN SO LE SPIRIT SPAMMERS ARE LE EVEN MORE EPIC IN LE LANE
>>586230268It's not about me, faggot. It's about solo-queue, where communication is either limited or nonexistent. Midboss roaring so late makes solo queue a much worse experience.
>>586230441That's kind of sweet in a way if they didn't just flame you.
>>586212313that's my bf
>>586230114we wanted violet to be a loli wizard
>>586230441*hugs you*
>>586230441just get off the game for tonight bro
>>586230441>"Bro are you okay or just disabled?"
>rem is a huge assholehope he dies
>>586230456>solo-queue, where communication is either limited or nonexistentJust activate your microphone and say they're probably going mid?
Why do they hate my husbands...?
>>586230358>people are upset that antiheal isn't exclusive anymoreim sorry, but my team needing to buy 4 separate items across 1600-6400 just to get to 75% when a celeste/baba was fed was stupid. there was no reason for it to have been so hard to stack antiheal, especially now that harrow is in the game
>>586230441they're baiting you vro don't fall for it
>>586230358Every single hero that isn't Venator needs to be buying healbane now btw, report anyone who skips it.
>>586228784venator's winrate will always make me feel like a schizophrenic, boggles the mind. my personal wr is 60% currently (meaningless anecdote used only to explain why i feel this way)i think it's one of those things where his strengths are very strong but his weaknesses are so particularly environmental (for the most part not the literal map, just the meta and items and per-game inconsistency) that it's hard to give him power without tipping over into straight bullshiti am patiently awaiting the item update to see if it makes more sense that they haven't tweaked his kit at all. if it ends up being a big upheaval it makes more sense
>>586230484They did and then posted youtube videos of guides to giving birth in my steam profile comments
>>586230772Lmao that’s a new one
OUR DEFENSES ARE CRUMBLING
>>586230772I'm not going to lie, that's pretty fucking funny man. Call it a night and try to find some appreciation in that.
Genuinely how do people lose on Abrams? I'm learning this guy and playing like a blubbering retard and STILL winning fights like nobody's business because of phantom shoulder charge
>>586227729>doorman and billy that's itYou forgot Mo, Rat King, and Rem. And Abrams is...fine.
>>586228219Ult-bot. Build for Q tankbuster and be a budget dynamo
>>586230852they try to unga bunga in lane, get parried and evaporate, then rinse and repeat, leading to them ending the game underfarmed and 2-7 with probably one good ult landed
>>586230753toxic bullets + healbane is fine on venator too since toxic bullets spirit scaling is so low it doesn't matter if you buy it on a full orange character
>>586230930Bros... Rem isn't supposed to be attractive...
>uh so this character is a demon, he's a detective and he has a mysterious book>and his abilities will have nothing to do with the fact that he's a demon, a detective nor do they relate to the book
>>586230650Of course I do that, but my last 4 games consisted of retards either playing with comms off, 5 stacking on D*scord, or assholes straight up deflecting/ignoring my midboss calls
>>586231102he has a bull charge (he has bull horns)he uses his book to cast two of his spellswhat more do you want
>>586231102he has infernal resilience bro
So far I'm 0/3 whenever I play with a bronie faggot on my team. How these wastes of life haven't killed themselves yet is beyond me.
>>586231102>>nothing to do with the fact that he's>a demonInfernal Resilience>the bookSiphon Life, Seismic Impact>a detectiveYeah I guess
>>586231079Cant help it, he's bottomless.
>have more than double the next guy's damage>somehow the enemy team can use every ult and active on me and we still lose fights after I kill two people and stun 4Infernus is a hero for the suffering enjoyers past laning phase
>>586230852one parry is all it takes to have your ass on the floor>>586231102his 1 and 4 are directly related to the book thoughhis 3 is supposedly an Ixian thing but it's unclear if it's a feature of just him, blue Ixians, or whatever because it isn't present with Apollo or Infernushis 2 could be related to the book with the blueish aura it gives but he could just be a Big Guy™
Did you hear the one about the tuna and the chef?
>>586231102He doesn't need to do any detective work in the ritual because he'll just wish for the answer from the Patrons.
>>586231378For some reason I read that as "he'll just wish for the answer from his iPhone"
>>586227729you are straight
>>586231374but mina is toreador(and a wannabe ventrue) not malkavian
let's see what this dick can doSent from my iPhone
>>586230930OK I won't lie rem makes me kind of horny if you ignore his voice
The more I think about it, the more I realize this entire game is just one giant homage to Hellboy. How long til Valve hires Mike Mignola for the art team?
heded tu bloo
I got com banned for two weeks. All I said is that I wanted to rape crazy frog to death. Totally heavy handed.
>>586231102>>586231206>Dicktective>Uses a shotgun revolverI guess that's about it?
>>586231447I'm really sick of this barafag agenda
>>586230852I'm just dogshit. I barely get kills but rack up a fuck ton of assists.
>>586231737LET'S INVESTIGATE WHAT THIS DICK CAN DO
>>586230852because idiots try to build damage instead of sustain
I really do hope Talon looks 1:1 like this when he gets his model rework.>walks around in his waistcoat because he didnt bother gearing up properly when his family died, it was straight to businessWould be dope
Celeste sisters... how are we going to jump in 1v4 and get two kills before gracefully escaping now?
Just read the notes. Can't believe all those heroes are dead.Paradox new S-tier I guess with another item to feed her carbine and a buff out of nowhere
thoughts on the candy cauldrons? i think they're ____fun__
>>586232021fuck you
>>586232013>another item to feed her carbineshadow weave? yeah i guess it more than compensates for the express shot nerf
>>586231587I dont super care either way but personally Id prefer it if he had a deeper voice for something closer to shortstack energy.
So do we still build Radiant Regen or no?
>>586232159>shadow weave carbinedoxwelcome home...
>>586232159The express shot nerf doesn't effect Paradox in any way
Yup Venator is still OP
>>586228030Shame about his personality.
https://youtu.be/2yWQ_N81Yp0?si=rtFCAypaRQMEhhw5&t=1023Just look at this goofy shit and tell me it was good game designI'm glad they reworked mid boss
>>586232290>- Express Shot: Secondary Fire Weapon Damage and growth reduced by 5%you know her carbine specifically uses the secondary fire damage of express shot, right?
So why is side dashing better than normal dashing?
>>586232362No because that's retarded it's not her secondary fire
>>586232398https://deadlock.wiki/Paradox#On-shot_Itemsi accept your concession
My team's Haze just died in enemy jg and dropped a 3800 soul bag
>>586232436No you've misunderstood me I was saying No (I did not know her carbine specifically uses the secondary fire damage of express shot) because that's retarded
>>586232396Why is running in a straight line away from bullets worse than running sideways
just killed a haze in our jungle she dropped like a 3800 bag lmfao
>>586232484well it makes sense because if it used the primary damage it would nuke for 3k+ instead of 1.5k, having carbine get +140% from a t3 item would be crazy.
My teammate just stole a 3800 soul bag from the haze i got to 1 hp. Fucking dickhead
i genuinely want danny removed from the game
>>586231594Where's my mad Nazi doctor made of gas trapped in a mechanical suit?
>>586232307That's his best feature
>Check Eido's Violet build>he just threw RR out and called it a day>it's still top 1 buildWhy are """pros""" even making builds for characters they obviously don't play?
>>586231594Isn't Mignola dying
>buff bomb geist
>>586232863wait for GOD metro to drop a new hypercarry build
So why did they literally just kill off Mo? I don’t get it, they literally just deleted the entire character for no reason?
>>586233112first time?
>>586233112Someone had to take Warden's place
https://x.com/GripAshford/status/2116325297209344021
>>586232151honestly this is a major self report but they just feel like healing snacks but actually in places people are goingthey do respawn way too fast though
>>586232021Making them last half a week was a good call. It means they'll remain a novelty without ending up annoying or obnoxious. Some other games have gameplay-altering holiday-related stuff last that entire month and it fucking sucks, overstays its welcome by the second week
>make absolutely insaneo throws and shots>solo a tier 2 at the cost of my own life>lane with a Bebop that was 1/8 for most of the game>Don't get MVP or even top anything so nobody notices or caresTruly I have become Warden...https://youtu.be/9voCBp9MCR0
>>586233112did you not play the game for the past 3+ months?
>>586233513>t. Celeste abuser
>only play shiv, yamato and mo&krill>all 3 dead in a ditch
>>586233112Why is the 8000 HP moleman with Bane ult supposed to deal top damage too? It was silly that he was dealing that much damage in the first place.
>>586233607>She's not playing at least a dozen characters so that you can always dodge nerfs on somebody
what am i even supposed to do about danny? even as the champs that have accurate ranged damage he can just escape the skirmish
warden is BACK
>>586233427everyone is so poor in your game
>>586233630>8000 HPYou ain't seen shit until you've seen colossus Mo (no idea why nobody does this it makes him have 12k+ health)>>586233694>Champs
>Play Seven, Victor and Geist>All dead in a ditch
>>586233694>CC when he lands from the crash (if he misses)I feel like it's impossible to CC as he's flying or trying to hit you since that move is bullshit but I've done it once or twice.>get reactive barrier so that he can't delete you with dive + ult>uhhhh spirit res?He does mixed damage, so I think he's pretty retarded to itemize against. Genuinely have to counterbuy a lot against him, knockdown rarely feels like enough since he'll just recover instantly if your team isn't around to kill him
>>586233804None of them are nerfed, though
>>586233694Play the game more and you'll figure out how to play around flying characters and aim your gun, you'll get it eventually little buddy.
>>586233804Seven is alright. Nothing really happens with this guy.
>>586233695Post build
>>586233804Geist should be pretty good right now even if you can't abuse RR
I am so tired of getting Silver on my team and she does fucking nothing but die.
>>586233881How the fuck are you meant to counter fliers if they can just dispel/counterspell your anvil and your ream refuses to buy more anvils. Yes I know about phantom strike but that often puts you in the middle of the team, which only tanks can survive
So did the patch fix the map being bloated to oblivion with useless detail and all the AoE slop?
>>586233879Healbane stacking is a giga indirect nerf
>>586233545>whataboutism
>>586233953In fact it just made mid boss even more bloated
Point Blank Danny.Think about it.
>>586233630But he barely holds them it's like a 2 second ult lol mo and krill sucks ass
How do you even play Mo&Krill now that spirit changes has made his damage literally 0 and radiant regen is dead? So he has no damage and no sustain
>>586233951>your ream refuses to buy more anvilsBy not having this problem. If you get retards on your team you'll lose to stupid shit. You can also usually out trade flying characters unless they're Talon or Vindicta
>>586234123torment pulse and scourge and just kinda waddle around
>>586234123>no sustain>moAre we playing the same game?
>>586234123The same way you played the hero before March>RR on MoWhat the fuck why were you running this
Why there are no good high tier defensive items against spirit?
>>586233750Because nobody farms jungle or boxes and everyone plays the lane like it's Street Brawl instead of actually killing minions
yeehaw jumpscare
>don't touch brawl for ages>decide to queue up some matches after not doing so hot in standard>the sweatiest try hard cringe lord faggots I've ever seen>consistently every matchWhat in the actual fuck is going on? I remember the stomps being bad before but this shit is downright retarded right now
>>586234309witchmail
>>586234052I don't think. I'm not.
Speaks Japanese
whoever said Kelvin is good right now, you were right
>>586234052Redditors killed danny, nothing to think about anymore
>>586234517I said he was busted af yesterday, but Yoshi went ahead and buffed him so he's even better now
>>586232558Can you actually answer the question or do you not know?
>>586233883his ult is practically worthless and his gun barely functions. he's a 1 bot and nothing beyond that.
Is ult warden good now or is he still spirit maxing m1slop?
>>586233923Why don't you just try getting a Silver on your team who does lots of things and doesn't die?
>>586234691works on my machine goy
>>586234409aoe slop mode
>>586234795His ult got 10 dps and 10s off the cooldown, what do you think.
>grey talon players becoming mathematicians to work out the perfect angles to shoot people from around corners
>>586234709The second one, I don't know
>>586234856No shit sherlock thats not what I'm talking about. I mean the people that are playing brawl play it like it's fucking ranked and sweat their asses off. AOE slop meta isn't exclusive to brawl.
>>586234973Simple geometry..
I still can't believe they didn't nerf Wraith
>>586234973that's not math, stupid cat
>>586235137It's insane how she dodges major nerfs every time. She's literally just a better Haze.
Mina is secretly OP
>>586234709For normal speed airdashes it's just because moving diagonally adds more speed thanks to an engine quirk.For high speed airdashes like zipline dismounts there's a speed cap where if you attempt to dash in the same direction you're travelling you won't gain any speed, dashing diagonally to your movement direction avoids this cap.
>>586233694Slowing hex now makes his jetpack give less lift Curse now disables the jetpackWait for him to dive in then hex him on the ground, you'll have plenty of time to kill him
>>586235137The teleport delay is a pretty big nerf, you can arctic blast her on reaction and cancel the teleport so she can never escapeThe hp gain on cards also got reduced by 30%
>Blatant aimbotting Haze on a throwaway account that went 27/0 is still not banned
>Warden was nerfed for a few weeks>Warden cucks shitted and pissed themselves nonstop crying like little bitches>Meanwhile Silver is dogshit for 8 months straight, still no buffs
>>586235296they're collecting data bwo so that they can wave ban people and stop hackers for three days maxgod i don't even want to know what itll look like as aislop gets better at hacking shit
>>586235308and yet, who gets picked by pros...?
>>586235308She was supposed to get massive buffs, but then a team picked her on Nightshift....
>>586235308The silver players also spent that time shitting and pissing themselves.
>>586235308Good. Furfag characters should remain shit so the degenerates who play them don't have fun
>>586234847Sucks that it's almost impossible to get MVP on Danny cuz his obj damage sucks
>lane partner simply wants to die and goes 0/5 within 5 minutes>blames menigger stop pressing q
>>586235352Game is free to play and Valve(and all devs tbf) relies on banwaves instead of immediate bans so cheat devs have a harder time figuring out what gets them caught and what doesn'tWhich means every new cheater account is guaranteed at least a couple weeks of ruining the game for everyone else in their matches before they're bannedAt which point they simply make a new account for free, and since a banwave only just happened, they have another few weeks of free reignValve can't add a CSGO style premium queue to impose costs on cheatniggers, because Deadlock isn't released yetThis means we are at least another year or two away from cheatniggers suffering from the slightest barrier to entry
>>586235562On an unrelated note can we go back to pre 03/06/26 doorman before they gave him a shitty rework that led to him getting his kneecaps blown off like 10 patches in a row?
deadlocked peaked awhile back and it is unfortunately all downhill from here, visual clutter and aoe slop is the new meta and the last batch of heroes released prove that devs have completely lost the plot. shame, it could have been great but I have lost all faith in the game and no longer enjoy playing. dont get me wrong I'll still wank to deadlock porn but I refuse to play this shit game any longer.
>>586235486But then said furfags will still insist on playing these shit characters and then going 0/12 and spending half the match making jokes and trying to ERP in all chat
The 5080 has been delisted. The world will run out of components and gasoline before Deadlock reaches 1.0 release.
>>586235546I lost that game cause of multiple sub 15k damage npc teammates including a vyper
>>586235725>can we go back to pre 03/06/26 doormanCan we go to pre 03/06/2026 many things?I still miss souls on vinny snipe
>>586235812THE FUTURE IS NOW
>>586235812Maybe this will finally force developers to actually optimize their games now doubt it
>>586235725March 6th update killed the entire game it's only been downhill since
>On losing streak>Think game is going well this time>Faggot teammates leave for no reason >Enemy just split pushes until they can run inWhere is my fucking free win?
>>586235237>secretly
>>586235919The game had questionable decisions prior, but since ognb it's been a string of such terrible changes one after the other that it makes me genuinely wonder what the fuck just happened with the devs.
>>586235812You can play deadlock on the steam machine! Wishlist now!
>>586235897VINDICTAISFOR________________!!!
Lol
>>586236127I hate scrap grenadeRem should be able to cast little helpers on it and they melee it forever and it never explodes
>>586236285throwinginbin
What caused the artistic and game design decline?
>lose 47 minute game>most of team has 1.5k objective damage>enemy team has a hitler sustain comp>uninstallsimple as. i'm not going to waste a single minute more like this.
>>586236317
Lash sex!
>Female vampire>Male vampire>Female werewolf>???
>>586236470Faggot furries already got Rat King you don't need any more representation
>>586236367Good visual character designs:>Mina, Billy, Doorman>Graves, Celeste, Rem>Harrow, Baba, VioletThe rest are dogshitAs you can see, all batches had their hits and misses
>>586236470Male slork
Can all Yamato players please just uninstall the game.
>>586236367don't understand why they insist on doing these massive 6 hero + extras updates when clearly there's a lot of feedback they should be taking into the process.once you drop 6 aoe slop heroes at once and it turns out badly you can't just take it back. grinds my gears when people still claim this is a "closed alpha playtest" when the development ethos is nothing close to that.
>>586236317>>586236410CUTE
>>586236470Male wolf (just a wolf (but hot))
>>586236470Another female werewolf, Silver's sister Goldie (she is like Silver, but simply better)
>succ healed more than radiantGoddamn. Radiant Regen really is dead.
>>586236567>don't understand why they insist on doing these massive 6 hero + extras updatesIt's so they can create engagement and free advertising on social media through the hero voting process (never forget when Silversissies called Graves voters pedos because their super popular on Twitter character wasn't actually getting votes in-game)
>>586235919>March 6th update killed the entire game it's only been downhill sinceI thought we were a minority, but I've been hearing friends who are relatively new to the game (began around a year ago) increasingly report that the game is nowhere as fun as it used to be. "Pro players" and the balancing catering to them might be actually killing the game, without a tinge of irony.
>>586236367Besides obviously Violet CNS is actually better aesthetically than OGNB
>>586236609For comparison, this was literally the last Geist game I played before the patch.
>rough early game, losing badly on objectives because both side lanes are feeding out of control>take macro into my own hands, get farmed, force pushes, take rifts 1v2>we 5v6 burgerbox for 3 minutes straight through their walker/guardians/shrines on green while our wraith chews through everything on yellow>keep everyone healed, and the whole enemy team debuffed they all keep going in 1 at a time with badly staggered respawn timers>8 minute base siege finally endsi love this charactersuch a fucking terrorist mid-late game
>>586236567dropping a ton of new shit in the game and seeing how it all shakes out is exactly what I'd expect from a closed playtest. clearly they don't intend to release any time soon.
>>586230441happened to me once but they weren't all that nice once they found out i was just severely drunk
>>586228673So it's just a straight up nerf because you can't actually reach level 35?
>>586236635>Thinking that godforsaken patch had anything to do with pros It was literally a powercreep almost everyone up to the level of the OBNGs crew. Like I get hating the "pro scene" but let's not act like that wasn't a classic case of Yoshi being fucking retarded. As he continues to show his retardation with every patch preceding it.
>>586236516>Violet>Good character design
>>586237215He's clearly just a madman if he likes violet but not Paige
Jesus fuck the Rat King nerfs are miserable, grenade never fucking kills anymore
>>586237481>cant kill with nade>gun also nerfed>stuns cancel your knockup damage on ultabsolutely murdered that nigga now who the fuck will play him? Snooze hero.
>Deadlock finally gets a sweeping balance patch>Graves nerfed AGAIN-- both her gun AND her actual abilitiesFOR WHAT FUCKING PURPOSE? THIS HERO ALREADY SUCKS, WHY ARE YOU NERFING HER AGAIN?
>Goober stream>title: solving Billy>enter stream>he's died 5 times in 7 minutesThanks for the buff Yoshi
>dude lets nerf everything and make everything shit instead of buffing the underpowered heros XD
>>586237575people found a good build with her (despite everything) and yoshi took that personally
>>586237575Bricklow shitters have a hard time understanding concepts like lane macro and zoning so they get frustrated by her and whine to the devs
how do I play billy, it's quite hard to maintain the booze buff while everyone parries me
>>586237575Had the highest winrate at all elos except top 1% and even there she was commonly banned
>>586237481>>586237575
>>586237735That doesn't count.
>>586237682if you want that kind of balance philosophy, rivals might be more your speed
Solomon buffed solomon saved
>>586237682Do you really want a repeat of what happened in the previous update?
>>586237698Except it's not even a good build, you'll still get ran down like a dog on repeat and can't actually run anyone down either unless you won the 15 death retard coinflip and got handed 5+ kills for free in lane. She was already slow, made of wet paper and had stamina issues.>>586237764She wasn't even 'privileged', she just did well against retarded update tourists that die 20 times by 15 minutes cause they keep trying to play it like a fucking hero shooter instead of a MOBA at all ranks but the absolute highest.
Why'd they have to nerf gun Harrow? Why do they hate gun so much?
>>586237764Look, I know the nerfs aren't "terrible" but my best KD since the Rat King nerf was 1/10 and I missed at least 10 kills where they lived exactly by the amount of damage that was removed from grenade
>>586237920>Can no longer unga bunga on your broken characterlol
>>586237914>an endless stream of 400 damage explosions and rooting people 3 times a fight is actually wholesomeNah fuck off. 57% winrate, higher than all the new characters, proves she was fucked.>b-b-but it was just the buildThat she used to get that winrate.
>>586237914I have literally never played Graves but used the build and won a majority of my games playing her, she was too strong.
Victor bro's, how we diibng? Did that 1% extra damage make up for all the item nerfs?
>>586215496mo doesnt have 6k health with 0 items
What the fuck do I build on Drifter? I keep trying different builds but they take forever to get, or out right just feels like shit.
>>58623791453% winrate in et*rnusShut the fuck up NOW gravesfag, please and thank you
>>586237843Rivals balance philosophy is making the same 6 heroes top dogs for the whole game's lifespan while everyone else is either mid or shit, though
>>586238230Melee
I was really getting into Mo&Krill to fill out my ranked roster but feeling kinda demoralized about it nowHave McGinnis, Lash, and Infernus so far, enjoy frontliners, was thinking about getting Yamato to 15 too, but none of the other frontliners really fascinate me, what do i play bros…
>>586238107>>586238170>57% winrateVersus literal inbred update tourists that go 15+ deaths in most of their games and exist in large numbers in all ranks except for MAYBE upper Eternus. She'd never get away with it in a playerbase that had actual human beings rather than speds that play literal drooler shit like Marvel Rivals.>>586238260Oh noooooooo a character was a LITTLE above average. Meanwhile Baba is still turbo AIDS and needs to get the FULL fucking Rat King treatment. We gonna smash Ivy, Celeste and Wraith's kneecaps for being SLIGHTLY over 50% in Eternus too? No? Especially not Celeste for the 100th time despite her NEEDING to be gutted into the ground for being so fucking mobile and obnoxious??? Like what the actual fuck is this limp-ass slap on the wrist fucking nerf? Turn her ankles to fucking DUST already if being so much as 53% in Eternus is so unacceptable.
>>586220597it literally does retard
>4 enemy in my lane as I get chased>Think team will counter push as punishment>No they are just farming boxes>Enemy takes up to our base>Still has time to defend and kill my team>Now they get rejuv tooWhat annoys me is some will be close by but they rather do nothing.
Slut.
>>586238814Yeah it's called update tourists and Marvel Rivals/Overwatch players bruh. Behead all eceleb niggers that shilled this update to normies and hero shooter players. Game's been unplayable for the entire fucking month.
>>586238732>53% >a LITTLE above averageYou have never played DotaYou have never played anythingGravesfag, PLEASE be silent. It's urgent
>>586238920it's unplayable unless you're on VC
>>586238948>ignores the restConcession accepted.
>>586237215Yes, her character design is great
>>586238957It's still unplayable cause the apes will either sperg at you for telling them to actually help instead of jerk off doing nothing, no matter how nicely you put it or they just straight up ignore you entirely/probably muted you.
>>586239001>ignores the restYeah, because it was founded on retardationI'm not interested in kicking over the rest of your house of cards, it can fall on its ownNow please be quiet you are disabled
>3 healbanes on our team>their victor presses infuser>it literally did nothingI play Victor too, but that was just funny to watch. 6300 item brick.
>Wonder why team is doing no damage or eating shit quick>They built a bunch of misc items that build into nothing>Most don't have anything counter wise or even their core itemsI really don't understand given this game fucking lets you follow guides without any brain power.
>>586239142build browser button to smallHOW DO YOU PLAY BILLY
>undeserved nerfs for graves, mo & krill, nurse and celeste ult>no nerfs at all for wraith and infernus>seven and warden get fucking buffsthis game is dead
>>5862391074800 worth of counterbuy should counter a 6400 item imo
>>586239218>undeservedFinal kek
>>586239074>has no actual argument for all the infinitely-worse cancer in the gameGraves needs to be buffed or these other cancer heroes need to be gutted. There's no reason for Celeste's knees to be remotely intact or for Baba to survive 2 balance patches with narry a mark upon her. But the moment Graves can survive longer than 2 seconds and actually kill 1 (One) person in the average AoEslop teamfight for a single patch and she starts getting nerfed it's somehow a problem? Total troon and Reddit death cannot come soon enough.
Does Billy 2 and 3 increasing MAX HP make him less vulnerable to anti-heal? (Similar to Lady Geist ult being exempt from anti-heal because it's technically a HP swap, not a form of healing)Or does anti-heal still cut down on his max hp increase from those abilities?
>>586239296>Total troon and Reddit death cannot come soon enoughCorrect, then noone will want to play graves and we can stop hearing you whine all the time.
>1,8gb updates since yesterdaynew heroes out?
>>586239218Celeste nerfs will always be warranted
>>586235919>>586236107Cope more
>>586237575>don't nerf her>let the mong-level no-aim character that shits out minions to shove for her actually stay good
>Build antiheal and dot shit to help finish enemy>They always live with a sliver of hp anyway>Entire enemy suddenly show up to save themIt keeps fucking happening. I think I am just gonna play danny to execute any fucker.
>>586212223Does Bullet Lifesteal apply to melee? Answer fast please!
>>586239296Graves is not a hero for you to play in high ranks. Graves is a hero for your 9 year old nephew or your girlfriend to play. You know, people who don't have basic mouse skills so it's not fair to ask them to aim and move at the same time. Some people have disabilities that make it hard to aim, too. Those are the intended Graves players, and she doesn't need a high winrate to serve that function in the game.
what's with the amount of aimbotters lately
>>586239296You have no argument, gravesfagJust because there's worse cancer doesn't mean your cancer didn't deserve nerfingNow PLEASE be quiet, you don't need to keep embarrassing yourself publically
>>586239305Yeh billy has no sources of actual healing in his kit, in a vacuum antiheal doesn't affect him at all.
I want Graves nerfs so I can stop getting this ugly bitch in every single one of my games. No other character has been this much of a blight in games without how often she is picked.
>>586239480>LatelyThey never left
>>586239480>aimbotting on infernus>afterburn still does as much damage as headshot hax gunInfernus fags will defend this. What a fucking busted character
>>586239569it's definitely gotten a lot worse as of late though, this infernus and wraith duo were both aimbotting
>>586239421You have to leave at least ONE style properly intact, you can't just utterly destroy both and leave it with nothing.>>586239460Wrong. Graves is just as deserving of relevance as these other overrated slop heroes like Baba and Celeste.>>586239532Graves was a non-issue that did not need attention in the slightest. Her performance against literal speds that int non-stop because they've only been playing since this most recent major update isn't an actual indicator of her strength.
>Stupid nigger tries to parry me>I have Unstoppble from my ult so I rape him to death>A second stupid nigger tries to parry me>I activate Unstoppable and rape him to death tooFeels good to be an AbramsGAWD
How do I check if the enemy team has an auto parry on?
>>586236516trooncoded
>can't push>can't kill>can't farm>can't supportwhat does she do?
Can you land paradoxical swap on Danny during his ult? I'm desperately trying to land it.
>>586239691her best
>>586239691She heals me just fine though
>>586239691She pushes.She kills.She farms.She supports.Really, whatever she fucking wants to, she does.
>>586239636>Graves was a non-issue that did not need attention in the slightest.53% winrate in the highest bracket gamesPlease, PLEASE stop publically embarrassing yourself, your conduct reflects poorly on all of us
>>586237682Buffing the weak characters comes with higher chance for blowback. If they overshoot and overbuff Pocket or some shit suddenly there's another king on top of the mountain running every game. If they overshoot a nerf on a character one hero fades into obscurity until next patch.
>>586239602i have a feeling that if wraith/haze ever sees meaningful nerfs then infernus pick rate and win rate will mysteriously skyrocket as people realize that he's never been bad and does stupid amounts of damage easily despite getting no buffs or nerfs
>>586239540Damn that's actually really neat. Now if only melee wasn't so awful to play
>>586239675Ask them
>>586239691Feed souls to the enemy by dying and also feeding her turrets to you.
Can someone explain to me the thought process of a retard who fights an enemy, gets healed by Harrow, and then escapes and leaves her to die?She's the shittiest character for Solo Q for this very reason.
>>586239691Someone post the ancient webm of abrams going to fight her in the mid boss and leaves because he enters a den of like 25 turrents
>>586239691She is pretty bad right now, but the idea is that she shits out spirit damage from turrets and ult, and the wall has Earthshaker vibes (including the ability to troll your teammates).
>>586239950most people aren't sentient and don't really wonder why their HPs suddenly gone up, they live in the moment
>>586239971>>586239971>>586239971>>586239971
>>586239782>Celeste has 53% WR in Eternus and goes untouched>Wraith too>Baba is STILL turbo cancerHit ALL the top performers properly or else you're just being an objectively faggot-tier dev, simple as.
How the fuck do you play Rat King after the nerfs, he feels so shit now
>>586239970this is lash but maybe you misremembered
>>586240061Yes, it would be nice if all those things happened!However, none of them have anything to do with Graves being objectively overly strong against skilled players and deserving of a nerf.Goodbye, gravesjeet, looking forward to your continued meltie in the next thread!
>>586239691Idk why they felt the need to take her and turn her into a Down Syndrome child, she looked just fine
>Hey guys, I guess that's it
>>586236367Delete apollo celeste graves and violet and its fixed
