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NEWS
>Persona 6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CL-q0HgfMOY
>Persona 4 Revival
https://p4re.jp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dG5G4WUTvyA
>Persona 30th Anniversary
https://p-ch.jp/p30th/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvziRZn1PgM

GUIDES | ART, MUSIC, ETC. | STAGE PLAYS | PERSONA ISO | PERSONA CONCERTS
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xz0BdycMMVjWNDQ5TT1tbBZX25NqhK9a1mpsNDpq7gA/edit?usp=sharing
>Birthday Calendar
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aJmZvNgBOoA0LQNUWQPVNUnzgZzK0IoII_X-szdkAcc/edit?usp=sharing
>The complete disc media archive
https://disk.yandex.com/d/c1DdZHur2t1QpA

/pg/ OC
>Draw Corner archive
https://mega.nz/folder/9bhhiYRL#NCdz7s5xuXn_jIchU3KdcA

>Anti Spammer Tech
>arch.b4k.dev/vg/464485803#464508465
https://rentry_co/5sbcoavo
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I miss when shuffle time could summon the reaper.
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be real, have you ever completed persona 1? or are you just larping because you read the wiki and watched some youtube videos?

this is 4chan and not reddit so i think there will be more people that played 1 here
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>nothing about the P1 leaks
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>>586378162
Hello.
I have a deep love for the Persona franchise, but compared to probably everybody here I would probably be considered only a surface level fan.
I also almost never use the Internet for shit except looking into video game leaks.
I am just hearing about the "P1 leak" and I'm dismayed because what about Persona 6? I know every single leak about P6 at this point but with this apparent P1 leak does that mean P6' ls estimated release of next year might not be happening?
Please tell me a remake isn't eclipsing the release of a new game.
I prefer physical games and I was happy at the estimated release of P6 next year since that means it likely would have a physical version for PS5, but my dreams will be crushed and I'll be PISSED OFF if a fucking P1 remake is actually what's coming out next year.
Please clarify and elaborate on what is going on - I both come to you in great respect and BEG you to elaborate.
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>>586378326
Only the SEBEC storyline. I haven't finished The Snow Queen story because I didn't really enjoy playing P1.
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>>586378326
I did both routes
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>>586378326
It's my favorite Persona
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>>586378326
i played through it and enjoyed it.
both revelations and psp.
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>>586378326
no
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All that talk about the Persona 1 Remake being real or not, but I haven't seen another important question asked yet.
Whether the leak is real or they end up making one in the future, should the music harken back to the classic Megami Ibunroku Persona OST or the PSP rerelease's soundtrack?

Personally, I find the PSP music fkin' goated. They should just port it straight to a remake. It doesn't even need to be rearranged imo, it's not like a lot of people have heard it in the first place.. Thoughts?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ez_WTLuOuKY
Even as a P4fag Dream of Butterfly is probably my absolute favorite intro song in this entire series.
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>>586378889
best case they have a toggle. worst case they do something new without having aoki's autism for the PSX tracks where characters themes and more are gutted like the PSP version
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>>586378889
>Whether the leak is real or they end up making one in the future, should the music harken back to the classic Megami Ibunroku Persona OST or the PSP rerelease's soundtrack?
If it's real then PS1 since the theme playing there is a remix of Pandora's theme. And Japs really hated the PSP soundtrack
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>>586378353
Mmmm I think we're still pretty confident on P6 releasing next year.
If this leak video is real (honestly it COULD just be AI) then if would be early early phase of alpha since both the P1 and P2 protags are present.
There are models and animations missing and stuff too so it's probably pre-alpha.
This would mean the game is maybe like...2ish years out? Maybe 1.5 range?
I don't think it's in the timeframe of coming out next year. But the footage could be old so...
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>>586378326
i only played SEBEC, embarrassingly
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I believe Tamaki will be the superboss for P1R.
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>>586378889
They'll remix the PS1 soundtrack while adding new songs akin to Reload and Revival.
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>>586379509
tamaki or hazama would be cool, but we all know they're gonna add joker or demifiend.
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Do you have hires art of leaked person 1
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>>586378889
Can't wait for the Joker superboss in P1R to show those young whippersnappers what's what.
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no... the superboss will be tatsuya

>>586379838
360p is the highest atp
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>>586379509
serph
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>>586379837
They already added Joker in the answer so I doubt they'll make him the superboss for P1. Part of me wants Wonder to be the superboss just to see how people react.
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the superboss will be tadashi. he comes back as a plot ghost to try to keep the game the same, but it keeps changing. he gets especially angry after being cucked out of his tamaki gf.
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>>586379509
It'll be Tadashi and Tamaki joins you as a guest party member
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>>586380113
Oh shit! Not the Plot Ghost!
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the superboss will be philemon
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Claiming this unmasked apricot.
Best model.
Most compassionate.
I'm so proud of Ann. I love her.
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I'm curious on when did they start working on P1R. The footage is still an early build but It's also clear some progress was made.
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>>586378326
Did the SEBEC route and liked it, finished the first tower in SQQ but then I lost my save and kinda forgot about it.
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>>586380713
Rumors say that P6 is either ready or really close to getting ready, or it can also be that P4R is done and they moved to P1R
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Daily orbs
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Since Persona UI seems to be a hot discussion atm, here's my ranking of them:
1)P5
2)P1R
3)P3R
4)P4R
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>>586378326
I'm gonna play it after smt if
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>>586381041
holy based
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>>586381015
pretty fair. though i do think p4r's looks more polished than p3r's. p3r probably suffers from being a "training" game though.
p1r, i'd rather not rate until it's done.
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>>586380713
P4R and P6 are pretty much ready. Since the release dates align with the original P6 leak.
They probably started couple of months ago especially since Wada keeps hinting at P1 and 2 remakes every other interview.
Piercy and Tatsuya models are significantly higher quality than Elly's one so she's probably the only one close to being finished as of the recording
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Realistically speaking, P1R sales will start strong but will have worse legs than P3R and P4R. I just hope it eventually hits Its intended target sales.
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The Season of Spooks may be over... but the spooky spirit will live forever...
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It's Sonomura Sunday
Saeko Sunday
Setsuko Sunday
Silverman Sunday
Serizawa Sunday
Shiori Sunday
Shiomi Sunday
Saori Sunday
Shirogane Sunday
Saki Sunday
Sayoko Sunday
Sakura Sunday
Shiho Sunday
Sadayo Sunday
Sae Sunday
Sophia Sunday
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>>586383171
As long as there is candy to be had, Ann will be dressing up.
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>>586378353
Just FYI most people on 4chan do not have the attention span necessary to read all of that.
Please trim it down next time.
Thank you.
Also, Persona 6 is most likely next year.
This looks like Pre-Alpha stuff so you probably have nothing to worry about.
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Brought back here after seeing the persona 1 remake leaks.
Looks like SOME people dislike the p5-isms in it?
I thought it looked cool, but then again I haven't played a persona game since Royal so I havem't got the fatigue of someone who played the 3make
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>>586384601
Anyone not expecting any of the p5-isms in it is pretty delusional to be honest. It's got its own take on it so I think it's a pretty good compromise that's why it's bit less jarring
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>>586384601
people are a bit dumb, just the turn order on the side makes it pretty unique
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>>586384601
It’s fake anon
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>>586384991
>P1 summoning pose
Sovl...
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>>586378353
Game development doesn't work that way. They're not gonna suddenly start a new project that pushes the other one back.
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>>586379296
Based BBWarrior
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>>586383269
So Back Sunday
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>>586385810
True!
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>>586386194
Sharing chicken nuggies with Elly!
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>>586384991
>>586385119
Nooo is it actually fake?
>>586384874
I love the colour purple and the street art/graffiti feeling it has so I'm kind of excited for it
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>>586386194
Does P4 just have the smallest roster in the series or something? I feel like it was robbed a character compared to other Persona games.
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>>586386797
Get it, "persona"
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Hey /pg/, divegrass manager here. With the sudden video yesterday I feel the need to ask. The roster poll just recently ended and then the video from yesterday dropped. Would you want to add Naoya to the team despite that, or keep the team voted for this time around? If you want to add Naoya, then I'll just remove the next most voted to remove player on the team from the roster poll who barely scraped by this time.
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>>586386850
More or less
P1 got 9 counting both routes
P2IS and P2EP got 6 and 7 members
P3 got 10 but well Shinji then its 9
P4 got 8
P5 got 10 if you count Akechi and Sumire
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>>586386825
It's probably real, but the footage looks like a very, very early build that only exists as a sales pitch to higher ups. Even if it gets greenlit, it's probably gonna look completely different(though I hope it doesn't, they actually nailed the style)
>>586387071
Hell yeah, let the original aura king shine.
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>>586386825
We don't have confirmation for either but Elly is using P4R Yukiko's summoning animation, so that little thing is interesting and points to it being closer to the truth
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>>586387071
dew it
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>>586387154
Boy With Earring is so cool
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>>586387163
Ah, so P2 actually has the smallest roster, thanks for answering.
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>>586387071
Do it, our boy deserves it
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>>586387318
Placeholders also helps its case.. we still don't know either way tho.
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>>586387071
Stick with the actual poll please
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>>586378326
Via emulation yes
>>586381041
Be sure to bring Reiko with you
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>>586378326
P1 is literally the most larped Persona game
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>>586387071
how close was the player to being voted out? thatll affect how I feel about it
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Rate the optional party members in each route
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>>586388527
If it helps your decision, the player cut would either be Ace Defective or the Subway Slammer, who were both one vote off from being tied with those cut in the poll.
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>>586389157
then yeah go for it if its the gachashit going away
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>>586388809
I tried to get into the game but I don't like grid-based combat. Same thing with the PQ games.
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>>586389805
PQ combat isn’t grid based
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>>586390064
Well, it's row-based which also filters me.
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>>586387071
>>586389157
Its a worthy sacrifice for the OG king
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>>586389014
Gameplay wise they all function mostly the same since everyone can use (almost) any persona
Personality wise it's mostly preference and I only ever done SEBEC so I'd say
1: Reiji
2: Yuka
3: Eriko
4: Brown
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Is there a tranny joke in literally every Persona except 4 (if we don't count Naoto's whole arc)?
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>Royal's writer (and current P5X's writer) was a detective for six years
Damn, I bet he is writing Persona 6
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>>586390972
It's apart of japanese humor even pokemon has a few tranny jokes.
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>>586391090
P6 is centered around a paranormal police squad so it adds up.
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>>586390972
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>>586389014
If you want to play all characters there is literally only one option, you MUST get Reiji the secret character on the main SEBEC route.

In SQQ you play Earring guy/Ayase/Brown cause he shit pants/Yukino.

Personality wise these characters are kind of one-note desu. I don't know wtf the AI was literally translating here probably something 2 Japanese 4 me.
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>>586390972
>>586391727
How did oldsona fags psyop themselves into thinking that the older games were more progressive than the Hashino games?
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>>586391860
They're retarded
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>>586391741
It's funny how Togami (from Danganronpa) is just Nanjo without character development. I guess even Edgeworth is a better approach to Nanjo's character archetype. And this guy from Nichijou.
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No copyright claim on that video. But at the same time a copyright claim would pretty much confirm that it is real.
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>>586391506
You act like ace ventura and shit doesn't exist. Hell, it was really funny to find out that silence of the lambs goes out of it's way to establish the serial killer guy is in fact not trans as confirmed by professional therapists during the investigation.

Imagine being a writer and going out of your way to establish the dude is just mentally ill and you're not in fact writing any commentary about trans people only for parts of the general public to go... No, we will in fact be transphobic because of your book.
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>>586392352
it's weekend, lawyers are resting
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I will not abbreviate Persona: Be Your True Mind into P1BYTM if that's the name their going for. I'll continue to call it P1R.
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>>586391860
Is this something that only exists in your head?
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>>586392743
No people did say that.
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>>586392396
off topic but the internet ones are definitely mentally ill. It's like they have two paths in life, make a gofundme because you're too unstable to hold a job or make porn

Persona!
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>>586392647
same
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>>586392743
People unironically claimed that the oldsona games where more progressive because of Jun being gay. Please lurk moar, newfag-chan.
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Stop the P1 posting. Noot is about to get her blood sucked out.
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>>586393564
I hope people mod the portraits out or just fix them
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>>586392396
Goodbye horses, I'm flying, flying, flying over you~ OoOoOoOooo

*puts lipstick on and tucks dick in*
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>>586393564
Chie is no longer a bra huh?
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>>586393449
giwtwm
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>The Yu Narukami erasure won't be tolerated!
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>>586393816
P4R models looks incredible with how expressive they are. I'm excited to see how they evolve with P6 and P1R.
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>>586393684
that took me a minute.. lol
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>>586393449
id rather suck the milk out of noot
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>>586393449
This. Start P2 posting
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Will Persona 6 Arena happen or was BBTag the last time Arcsys and Atlus work together?
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>>586394693
Why was Maya a MAP
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>awful post
>rise/futaba/sumire image always attached without failure
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>>586395691
Someone's having a melty...
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is dia the most useful skill type to have irl
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>>586395691
This but with Mitsuru/Chie/Haru.
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>>586396027
that, recarm or traestro depending on what counts as a dungeon in real life
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>>586396027
It's a toss up between that and charm, for obvious reasons, straight up Code Geass hypnotizing girls Visa Mastercard be after me
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>>586391860
That's a fan translation
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>>586394693
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>>586396027
I'd say endure is better, since we don't really know what dia can and can't heal.
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>>586397212
By skill type I assume they meant patra and recarmdra too.
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>>586393032
Sounds like you need to be a secondary to hear that kinda discourse
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>>586397887
Back to /v/ shiteater
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>>586394307
wifekoto
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Man Don't might be the best battle theme in the entire series.
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I would have played Persona even if it was a real-time combat series, the appeal goes beyond it being turn-based.
I don't think it would be too unpopular to have a mix of turn-based and action combat in Persona 6.
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>>586398179
It’s solid but no not really
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Looks like Yu will get traits from the anime.
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>>586392647
we got mib persona, rev persona, smt persona, and persona 1, p5 edition, but to be fair, it's the first good looking persona game since persona 5
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>>586398379
Fuck I didn't add the image.
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>>586394307
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>>586398463
Can't wait to see how they do shadow Teddie
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Wait a minute, if Atlus is doing a remake of P1 does that mean they'll add a rerelease girl?
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>>586378326
i've played it 3 times (4 counting sqq), it's unironically my favorite persona game

>>586394693
ok here's my favorite picture of tatsuya
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>>586398727
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>>586399293
FANTASTIC post
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>>586398680
buttkoto
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>>586398570
I'm more than fine with this decision
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The older I get the more I realize how true the phrase "time is a flat circle" really is because what do you mean I have to start thinking about Christmas presents again
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Loli Margaret and mid-40’s Caroline/Justine
Nothing else about them changes

Imagine
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>>586400387
walmart gift cards for everyone
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>>586398570
Secondaries rejoice.
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>>586399090
>does that mean they'll add a rerelease girl?
anon, did P3R and P4R add a rerelease girl?
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>>586378326
SEBEC route twice via Revelations and most of the SQQ on PSP (got bored).
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>>586378326
Persona 2 EP PSP is the only Persona game I played.
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>>586401105
aika?
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>>586399090
what if they add toriumi to persona 1, but she looks like yukari?
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>>586388430
It's weird to think about. P1 was the best selling game in the franchise before P5 but it has no cultural value. P4 and P3 sold less and it gets referenced a lot more.
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>>586401392
Aika existed before P4G came out.
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>>586398179
i think it's still it's going down now
don't is really good too tho, it really fits the answer
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>>586400387
I make $0, I have no responsibilities or schedule, I barely leave the house, I have no social life, I get zero pussy. I am in contact with practically no family, there's no one I would buy gifts for anyway

I'm not unhappy either, maybe a bit melancholy about what a human lifetime could've been under a different societal system, oh well.
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>>586402123
do you want a gift
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>>586401459
>but it has no cultural value
Because quite literally the game is older than most people currently playing Persona games. Anyone who did like P1 during it's time is probably in their 40s or 50s by now. And the PSP ports came after a time P3 already was the default Persona for most people.
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>When Atlus remakes P2EP and the post credit scene is grandpa Kirijo getting a hold the last remaining kegare.
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>>586393449
>>586393806
Put some clothes on
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So,
Aragaki just fucking died permanently
I take it it had everything to do with the letter choice previously? It's literally my first time playing P3 completely blind so i'm just gonna go with it but i assume i could have prevented it?
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I haven’t been here since P5R released bros
I’m kinda hype for P1R because the style looks cool and I always thought Elly was cute (I played P2-P5 and thought P2 is ass though)
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>>586403412
Bro
Think about the games themes for like 5 fucking seconds
Like the smallest
Tiniest
Itty-bitty moment of reflection about the media you’re consuming

Please
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>>586403173
Futaba literally does this in P5S.
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>>586403621
I wanted to save him and have him join the school and heal his wounds.
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I overlay a Dragon Hustle card on my Chie unit.
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>>586402250
>Because quite literally the game is older than most people currently playing Persona games
It came out a year before FF7. quit talking out of your ass
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They also know that Persona 4 after all is massively overrated so they are pulling the P1 and P2 remake to let actual good persona games to be discussed.
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>>586403764
she won't be so smug after she's hit by my super strong mara
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I can’t remember, were Sega and Atlus striking down footage of Reload a few years ago when that leaked or did they leave it?
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>>586404490
I think they eventually did but they didn't do anything for a while.
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All this P1R and P4R talk makes wonder how would a game made by Hashino and Tadashi look like.
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>>586404490
it took a while
these leaks are controlled marketing for sure
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>>586403764
As did Rise in Golden
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>>586405768
This, I kind of think that the fact this P1R "leak" has stayed up for so long is because they're using it to check out the general opinion on it to figure out if it's even worth doing.
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Doesn’t look like AIslop to me tbdesu
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>>586406476
Nah the game is definitely in full development given how far along the combat animations have gotten. This is just viral marketing.
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Another 10 years of Persona 4.
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>>586389157
Keep my boy junpei at least
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Here's a P1 discourse you're not ready for: Mark being blackwashed in the US PS1 version of P1 and people wanting that for the remake.
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>>586406687
P6 is coming out next year too buddy. 2028 at the latest. They’re aiming for 2027 according to the leaker (not some twittertard I’m talking about the guy who gave us the logo and the character concept art).
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>>586406687
Less then 24 hours later!
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>>586406964
>people are going to demand that Mark doesn't get cucked
kek
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>>586406964
black mark is definitely going to be a mod
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>>586406687
10 more years of jerking off to my husbands (female)
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>>586406964
My HERO black mark
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>>586407085
I mean
That’s accurate
Brent is objectively correct here
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>P6
>P1 and probably P2 remake
Damn is P4R going to get any time in the post-release sun?
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Have actually killed humans
with zero hesitation
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What exactly was the point in Philemon sending their consciousness to another timeline when they'd just merge with the other selves and forget anyway? That's essentially tantamount to death
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>>586407332
We'll absolutely not see P1/P2 remake news until 2028 at most. Atlus will probably be pushed again to address the remakes in some way, but it'll probably be some "Persona - Be your True Mind coming soon" in a purple background and black letters.
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>>586407361
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>>586407448
Philemon: No sense of right or wrong
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>>586407361
These guns reminded me that casuals are going to learn how much P5 was inspired by P1.
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>>586407554
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>>586407565
>P5 was P1-pilled
>according to the leaks P6 is looking P2-pilled
It’s like poetry
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>>586407565
Don't sleep through dreams that can come true...
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>>586406687
>Another 10 years of Persona 4.
Yes please
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>>586407565
Actually, they may just think that P1 was just extremely P5-ified instead.
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>>586407975
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finally done with golden
chie and naoto best girls
that's all
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>>586408160
nice nightlight mode
low screen brightness to keep your eyes healthy too
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>>586408360
Based noot and chee enjoyer
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>>586408160
Why do you have a fucking ghibli piss filter on your screenshots?
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>>586408160
>dour and bizarre
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>>586408160
This is how people talk about vanilla P4 vs. P4G.
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>>586408449
f.lux
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Why didn't Chie tell us she had a twin?
>>586408360
Bad taste
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>>586406687
isn't that what p4d and to a lesser extent arena are
or did they want to make something like the answer
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>>586408665
Handsome
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>>586408160
I've seen some people say P1 had a horror esque style and I genuinely don't see that.
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>>586408486
fun fact: if you hear the song that plays during this fight a second time, you have gotten the bad ending
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>>586408751
Not fully horror so much there's definitely an unusual dream like quality to it. It's not like Silent Hill or anything but it's got a more haunting vibe.
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>>586408751
It was dreamlike and spooky but I don’t suck off Oldsona and act like it had OG Silent Hill-tier atmosphere like some people do.
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>>586408751
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>>586378326
No, i didn't even know Persona existed until Persona 5 royal came out.
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>>586408707
A P4R expansion story set after the events of Persona 5 is an interesting idea and I hope they end up doing it. I'd love to see how much Inaba has changed.
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>>586408707
Probably the latter
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>>586408862
>>586408923
snap!
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>>586408751
it's more of a mild lsd trip game desu (more obvious in the original ps1 version where you can see the world map changing)
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>>586408959
>I'd love to see how much Inaba has changed.

We got a chic-fil-a
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>>586408862
>>586408915
>>586408923
You're all mentally linked.
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>>586378326
I’ve played but never beaten P1 and P2. Haven’t tried EP.
I got filtered by the gameplay, I don’t know how Oldsona is so boring but it is, Mainline was better.
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>>586409096
ware wa nanji...
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>>586408959
With a dungeon or 1 for old times and I am in
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yeah i think we'll be fine p1bros
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I’ve always been more of a Maki guy.
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>>586409320
It begins
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>>586409527
her and ayase for me
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>>586408751
titty penis body horror Maki
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>>586409520
true
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>>586409520
Yukeks are in danger…
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So what I'm getting for YT videos is that people like P1 because of its weird and its atmosphere while everything else about it is shit.
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Another weekend spent gaming, eating and gooning
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>>586409976
it's a really jank game yes (p2 is even worse imo)
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>>586403930
final fantasy 7 came out in 1997, it's 2026 now

>>586403084
i remember playing persona 3 and they mentioned the kirijo group seperated from the nanjo group and i was like hey, i remember kei nanjo

>>586407448
i wonder what happened that philemon just disappeared in the lore, he probably said "bruh i'm too unc to be in newsona"
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>>586409976
It has good music and a decent cast too.
It’s the gameplay that’s shit. It’s slow and braindead.
That’s why a remake of it is so appealing, at least for me.
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>>586409834
naked pandora 3d model...
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>>586408751
>>586408862
"horror" is a wide term. it doesn't necessarily mean "scary".
it encompasses psychological tension/existentialism, unease, eerie atmospheric qualities, etc.
i think p1 deals with psychological unease in the characters as well as having some eerie vibes throughout. it has light body horror as well in chisato and pandora, and some of those grunts like turtlehead, i guess.
the ps1 version had a better horror atmosphere too.
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The day when P5 is the oldest Persona is upon us.
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Been seeing this message for a while. This supposed to mean the SL is calendar locked (despite I can find nothing about it happening before level 5) or means I gotta catch up before the next rank?
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>>586410296
Wow that’s grim to think about.
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>>586410296
Persona started with 5
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>>586410082
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>>586410084
i was so suprised to see how much worse persona 2 is than persona 1, like bruh, i thought playing as maya would be fun, but the battle system is literally fake, the negotiation feature was limited, and it doesn't have cool music like lone prayer
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>>586410371
I’ve only played Vanilla 4 but I’m assuming that yeah, you have to wait.
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>>586410371
just use a guide like a normal person
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>>586410281
Yeah I don't think I'd call any of the SMT games scary by any stretch but a lot of them had a certain weirdness to them. It's more like urban legends and stuff.
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>>586409520
Even the comments on that show 30th aniversary video were mostly about how hot Earring was.
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>>586410371
>>586410585
>>586410798
I am like 99% sure that just means the SL won't rank up within that time block, but you still gain music notes/progress, and if you don't it will never rank up.

You guys do know that SLs don't rank up each time you talk to them, unless maybe you only see them with the right arcana persona AND answer every response perfectly, right...?
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLxqqNocoQk
this is basically p1 summed up in one theme, imagine this playing in a remade world map where you can actually see shit and not just a bird's eye view of the city
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Soon™
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>>586411095
Having more of a city to explore would be great. You could probably scatter a lot of secrets and places to build relationships too.
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i just started playing persona 3 fes after like 3 and a half kotone playthroughs, people say they like the point and click menu because it's faster than walking, it seems like cope, it's faster, but it's not like i'm speedrunning the game, walking around outside of tarturus is obviously more fun than moving a cursor around
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>>586411089
Yes, and even then there’s some SLs that require additional time even if you do everything perfectly.
I answered the post >>586410585 as well as I could have given the info I know about Marie’s SL.
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>>586410371
I think she needs some other IT members to advance so wait you recruit the next member
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>>586410371
Just means you need to hang out more before you can rank up again
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Can’t wait for newfags to learn that Tatsuya is voiced by Takehito Koyasu
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is it time to replay p1 again?
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which persona group has the best chance to beat the moonlord from terraria, and which persona group has the worst chance to beat the moonlord
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There's this ancient piece of fanart (possibly from before we split from /smtg/) where it's the Persona protags and Tatsuya brags because of his Arcana that he's "the almighty Sun that shines down on the foolish Emperor and the naked Fool." Anyone still have that?
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>>586411174
>Innocent Sin Redemption
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>>586411174
>Not revelationS.
It's right there.
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>>586410082
baseddd
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I just want to see persona 6 already.................
Green is my favorite color and I love the X files................
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>>586412229
Persona 1 was so boring I had to stop and jo imagining the guys fucking Elly, they all needed some relief
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so is persona 1 remake getting revealed in the game awards or something?
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>>586398025
Cope faggot
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>>586413060
this but yuka
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there's an absurd amount of tatsuya x pierce art for some reason
not complaining, but still
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>>586413159
Fatlus have done all of the Persona reveals at Geoff’s shows for the past few years so I’m guessing it’ll show up eventually at TGA or SGF.
I don’t think we’re getting an official reveal of it this year to be frank. Next SGF MAYBE.
P6 is possibly being shown at TGA though, and if it isn’t there it’ll be at next year’s SGF if they’re still gonna hit the 2027 release window.
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>>586413584
Hasn't it been Xbox since P3R?
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Why did she do it?
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>>586413159
Nah it would cannibalize p6 and p4r, i think they will wait till really later
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>>586412284
do not redeem
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>>586407361
There is only one girl in person 1? Wow this will flop miserably.
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I look forward to taking Yukino along to SEBEC
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>>586413953
there are four but two of them are optional teammates and the other one you can only recruit in a quest separate from the main story
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>>586413657
Yeah.
The part of SGF where Persona stuff gets revealed is the Xbox Showcase.
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>>586414151
But then who'll solo SQQ?
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>>586413953
There’s four.
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>>586413953
I know I shouldn't expect modern audiences to do things like PAY ATTENTION or READ THE THREADS but you really do take the cake for obliviousness.
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I look forward to kissing Yukino
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>>586414623
I never claimed to know a single thing about persona 1. Only reacted to what I saw which is 4 dudes and 1 girl.
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>>586415456
>I never claimed to know a single thing about persona 1.

Okay. Read the fucking the thread. They've been posted numerous times.
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Persona Won
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>>586415536
True.
I can’t wait to play SMTVI in… uh… 2035, haha… h-ha…
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>>586415697
Switch 3 exclusive
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>>586415528
But I just got here I don't want to read 250 posts.
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>>586415801
Till SMT6 Rising Revengeance
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>>586415801
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>>586414623
>>586414987
I remember making fun of the tales fan when that one game came out and they had a mental breakdown when the girl on the cover fucked off early in the story, but the closest I felt to understanding their feelings is being annoyed when yukino fucks off early in p1 and the only way for her to "come back" is to do the snow queen route.

I know it will annoy purists but I'm hoping the splash screen having all 9 characters + the bond event had a make-up of characters impossible in the original means were getting a full party this time. It'd be nice to actually get to know the other characters since I went with elly in the main route and snow queen was short enough I don't think I really got to know yukino/yuka/hidehiko... and you know... I wasn't playing the whole game again for reiji.
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>>586415801
>he thinks personal hardware will still exist and you won't just pay a subscription service on your palantir pad
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All girls are mine
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>>586415979
i wonder if they'll bring back kandori's voice actor, he's the only one out of the p1 voice cast who isn't a literal who and is still active
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>>586416134
Mogged by Piercy.
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>>586416385
>Piercy.
I forgot how faggoty the fanmade names are.
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>>586416492
Piasuno Shounen
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>>586416134
>City boy draws dead end podunk tail
Yeah that's cute. Now if you'll excuse me Betty and Veronica are waiting.
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>>586416538
BUH BUH BUH BAAAASED
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>>586416492
And yet somehow they're still better than the actual official names. Can you believe there are actual people who, even in a game about self inserting, need the company to tell them what their name should be. Imagine having the option and not being Slab Bulkhead. Or Fridge Largemeat.
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>>586416786
>even in a game about self inserting,
I'm not a faggot like you that gives a shit about self-inserting. I don't wanna name my character something retarded, if i'm playing a japanese guy I wanna give him a japanese name
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>>586417172
Then make up a Jap name retard-kun
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>>586417231
Why would I wanna make up something when he already has an offical name. quit being a faggot and kill yourself
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"Slab Bulkhead" and "Fridge Largemeat" sounds like you're trying too hard to be funny.
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>>586417406
Because show some imagination
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whats your favorite persona from a design view
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>>586417526
Someone just announced how young they are.
>Not putting his faith in Blast Hardcheese
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>>586417549
apollo and nike
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>>586417406
>”I’m a retarded newfag”
We don’t know their canon names from the beginning retard-kun. We get them later on.
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>>586416786
so true jamal-kun
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>>586417798
>We don’t know their canon names from the beginning.
Nobody in this general was around during vanilla P3 and P4's release and there's even fewer that were here during P5's release.
>We get them later on.
That's wrong. The manga comes out the same day as the game.
Calling someone a newfag but not knowing that is kinda crazy.
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>>586417798
Why does that matter? We know their canon names are now.
Why the fuck should anyone care about what some random retard acting elitist over the protags name think?
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>>586418595
I was.
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>>586417549
caesar
basic, but it's just too good
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>>586419501
no you wasn't
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Maki>Elly>Yuka>Yuki
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>>586420806
Maki's not real.
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Nobody will believe my post.
Dullahans design is a fusion of modern and classic takes on the traditional Dullahan and heavily leans on the Headless horseman from sleepy hollow.
Dullahan has a Jack-O-Lanten helmet as a head with the smile being a visor where its eyes peer through. It holds a Cutlass and rides a black older Japanese motorcycle where the headlight has an illuminated eye that looks around.
The MC is calm and collected, but the persona is maniacal and the first time it's summoned it's for a revenge kill against Shadow Mothman a unique Mothman variant that's more akin to what you imagine regular Mothman looking like instead of the usual one.
"The Nav" from persona 5 is responsible again for leading you into 6's dimension, and the plant that made the Will Seeds from P5R is expanded on in Persona 6.
The story eventually becomes a government vs shadow government thing.
The shadow government is made up of mostly aliens and a few demons.
One of the party members starting persona is a Cthulhu that looks chibi.
All of the MC personas are heavily based off of monsters from famous storybooks and novelists with inspiration from various ways rks associated with them.
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>>586420916
Maki is so good there's 4 of her in the game
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>>586420936
I honestly believe jt
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>>586417549
Alice
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>>586421145
I don't think /pg/ is ready for Reiji fujo and Akechi fujo in one thread
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I might be retarded but after 150h and two playthroughs I still don't know what was Adachi's motivation beyond "I was bored"
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>>586421493
i haven't seen an akechi post in a while
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>>586420936
I want to believe
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>>586421649
That is enough, society is bad and he wanted some pussy and later teenager pussy but they didn't want to give him
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>>586421493
I don't think Reiji will get that many fujos, but we'll likely see a Nanjofujo renaissance
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>>586422404
It's gonna be Brown.
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>yfw the leak is real internal footage but corporate didn't greenlight it
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i am both a reijifag and groojo, i guess? though i don't actually care about shipping goro with joker but i'd still be called a groojo here.
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>>586422450
Are fujos into scat?
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>>586422469
Big shrugs either way, I don't think it's real in the first place.
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>>586422469
Could they intentionally leak it to gauge demand?
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>>586422469
Normally I'd make a joke here about how ryan reynolds leaked deadpool footage to drum up support so his decade in the making movie would finally be greelit... but honestly that's happened a bunch of times over the years.
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>>586422485
based
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>>586422450
Wipe your ass Brown
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>>586420916
she's real in my sea of souls
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Who'll be the normie fan favorite waifu?
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>>586423609
it's always been elly in japan, don't know about the west though
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>>586424024
She has a lot of appeal. I can see westerners liking her crazy side. You don't see to many characters in this kind of situation who treat it like they just won the Wonka factory.
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Perusona
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unity>unreal
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P2R OST:
https://youtu.be/9TFrprd130U
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>>586414151
persona 1 is like this if you accidentally recruit brown lol
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gALwHR3eBy0&list=PLKnNtzNfg7jet-fjiHfk-SgmmY2Q0ZRvh&index=99
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>>586425180
my cock>your ass
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>>586421649
i would have cooked for adachi, i thought of making a p4 fangame where that's one of the social links
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>>586422404
both reiji and nanjo have that "off-putting but with a soft side" aspect. they'd both get fans either way.
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I want P1R now it's not fair
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>>586425180
godot is better than both
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>>586425882
I don't feel like waiting
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>>586424024
probably elly. maybe maki?
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Persona 6R is where it's at.
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>P4 remake
>P6
>P1 remake
>P2 remakes
How do we feel about Persona being a "thriving"/milked franchise? Are the remakes better than the spin-off spam from the P5 era?
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>>586425180
renderware >>>
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>>586426103
>trash vs garbage
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>>586426167
it's too bad it's an abandonware engine nobody will ever use, they'd be better off using id engine, it's open source
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>>586425882
Based
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>>586426057
Yukino will probably have fans
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Yeah that leak’s real. I don’t think the specific issues and overall unfinishedness in the footage are something that an AI could do that convincingly.
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This is the only persona community on the internet where I see ZERO positivity toward Atlus or the series. Negative spin, downward trend, incompetent developers, it's always gotta be bad. It's unhealthy to surround yourself in this.
Not a complaint by the way just a funny observation.
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>>586426103
>p3 psp port
>p4 vita port
>p1 psp port
>p2 psp port
Nothing has changed
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>>586426860
That's just 4chan culture, just look at any other general and it's generally negative/filled with complaints.
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Think they'll include the American skins?
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>>586426860
What the fuck are you talking about? That’s blatantly untrue.
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>>586426860
They deserved to be mocked. Total Atlus Death
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>>586426860
What, here on the thread you can see people hyped, p1fags literally resurrected thanks to the leak, also some are hyped for p4r and everyone is salivating for p6 news
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>>586426860
>It's unhealthy to surround yourself in this.
you can leave anytime
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Nanjocoin is gonna soar.
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Nanjo is getting neutered for the remake, mark my fucking words.
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>>586426506
yeah, all the characters will have fans, but the question is who will be most popular?

i could see yukino being a contender though.
i think ayase will be the least popular main girl.
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>>586427394
Fuck…
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>>586426956
Yeah, as $10 DLC
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>>586417549
I'm a little in love with Awilda
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>>586426057
i can see maki's secretly depressive waifu shtick getting motion
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>>586426956
Too based. Would never happen.
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I still can't believe P1 is relevant again.
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>>586427509
I suppose a lot will boil down to if they decide to give you everyone or not.
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>more Maki fanart
>more Elly fanart
YEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSS
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>>586427714
I dunno. Maki's not the same kind of PWEASE PWOTECT ME ONI-CHAN I WANT HEADPATS kind of depressed. She's like the actual kind of really miserable.
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If I had a bat as cute as this....
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>>586427812
best timeline. even if the remake ends up mediocre, it at least brought back p1 discussion, though some of it is cringe. never go to xitter for persona discussion...
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>>586428429
never go anywhere for persona discussion, everyone sucks
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>>586428402
i'd kill that flying rat with a hammer
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>>586428554
it honestly isn't bad here when there's actual news. /smtg/ is usually fine for oldsona too.
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>>586426860
I said this years ago and it's still true.
The fandom is really pessimistic even though the Persona series has no objectively bad games.
>>586426969
>That’s blatantly untrue.
it literally isn't, just lurk moar. Every Persona pre-release always has some sort of bitchfit that gets forgotten by release.

P5R had people complaining about it being a full price re-release, barely having any new content and the entire shit fit over the Shinjuku gays getting "censored"
P3R had Answerfags spawn into existence when it announced that it's not in Reload and the usual FeMCfag whining
P4R had people btiching about "muh censorship" just because of a few dev interviews
people are bitching now about P1R because it has a fancy UI and AoA like P5
I remember when anons in this general collectively hated Royal after watching Faz speedrun the entire game, skipping anything that didn't involve Akechi. all those bitchy anons were suddenly quiet when they were actually able to play game.
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>>586428723
Hey, none of that.
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>>586428754
You said there was zero positivity, turbosperg.
That’s what’s blatantly untrue.
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>>586428883
I'm the not the anon you were responding too
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>>586428754
>collectively hated Royal after watching Faz speedrun the entire game, skipping anything that didn't involve Akechi
That wasn't Faz, that was Cezaria iirc. An akechifujo that was translating things in the game but didn't care about anything else but Akechi.
Then you had Tim who also skipped most of everything to finish the game fast.
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>>586427747
Americans butchering Japanese games will never be based.
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There's gonna be new ERRY-CHAN?!
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>>586428754
>I remember when anons in this general collectively hated Royal after watching Faz speedrun the entire game, skipping anything that didn't involve Akechi. all those bitchy anons were suddenly quiet when they were actually able to play game.
What, people were hyped for Maruki and shit, every third semester reveal had people losing their minds
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It they didn't adapt anything from the manga then there is no reason for the remake to exist
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>>586428754
as much as i hated the answer, there was no reason for it to be paid dlc in p3r besides corporate greed.
also, p3r was just half assed.
i still did enjoy it though.

people bitching about p5r was largely due to misunderstanding the 3rd semester plot.
remember when people thought goro was a tulpa?
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I've replayed P3FES multiple times but I've never touched the answer since my first playthrough.
I just watched Episode Aigis on youtube cause I'm not wasting my money on that shit
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>>586429674
reanswer became a thing only because reload sold really well
atlus simply didn't plan to do it and wada had to scramble and find whatever leftover people he could find to throw it together
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>>586428754
>P3R had Answerfags spawn into existence when it announced
This shit had me realizing that most of the current fandom were fake persona fans who never played the games before P5/P5R.
It was so fucking bizarre to see people actually upset that The Answer was omitted from Reload when any actual fan that grew up playing FES was jumping up and down in happiness from the game basically being FES without answerslop baked into it.
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I want a Persona game. A brand new Persona game.
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>>586430397
Next year bud.
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>>586430397
why are you being a negative pessimistic contrarian anon
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>>586430397
2027 is /ouryear/
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>>586430310
If FESfags were jumping for joy about no The Answer, they're larper fakes. FESfags want The Answer because it's fucking a part of the entire FES experience. P3FES IS The Journey, The Answer.
You got it completely backwards.
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>>586430397
P6 soon
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>>586430798
>because it's fucking a part of the entire FES experience
It's a big part but not the entire experience. FES added more than just the Answer
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>>586430798
Fucking like 5 FES fans in the world have ever liked 'The Answer' nigga.
Odd are you're not one of them so you're probably a fucking fraud.
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the answer has been getting people say it was underrated thtoughout the years though, even before p3r.
see those stupid video essays
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>>586431261
That's just Zoomer shit tho
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>>586430397
>We can do a Persona game
>A brand new Persona game. Not some fancy remake, a real brand new Persona game
>I'll make a really good, traditional Persona game
>I don't think you can
>I'll make you feel like you are playing your very first Persona game. The one that made you feel like you had friends.
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Do you have a favorite line of dialogue from P1?
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>>586431386
it still exists and is part of the community discourse. it became a more common talking point in other places too like xitter/reddit.
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>>586431629
i'd have to think about it. it has lots of memorable dialogue.
but black mark saying he'd go medieval on guido's booty was pretty funny. it's a pulp fiction reference but they can't say "ass" because it would be too vulgar, but it's okay to keep dialogue calling mark a monkey?
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>>586431968
It's weird that they made Nanjo racist but still hate cops.
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I hope he's happy about the news
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>>586431629
NOW I'M SUPER GUIDO
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>>586427509
There's a market for bitchy gyaru these days
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>>586430397
Do you?
Trying to make the fact that you played P5 in 2016 a personality trait is probably more important to you.
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>>586431629
I really need to give the game a proper replay sometime soon. There's a lot of stuff.
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Has someone bothered to translate the dialog in the p1 leak yet?
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>>586432821
Modern fans will love her
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Potential future crossovers are about to get a lot more interesting.
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>>586431629
You posted it
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>>586430310
Daily reminder that The Answer is Personas pleb filter and the only people who didn't like it were people too dumb to beat it
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>>586433021
Someone tossed this one part into lens I think. Don't know AI tl stuff.
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>>586432821
I can't wait to hear Elly's Engrish in JP
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>>586432558
Honestly, I miss theoryfagging here about Persona 5, leaving /pg/ when it released on japan, and then coming back to see nothing but Goroposting
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>>586433646
I wonder how they're going to translate that for the inevitable dub. Make her speak French?
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>>586433675
You never liked Persona and video games in general
You liked socializing about them.
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>>586433512
>mark
>talking about people being black
>black
>mark
>:black mark
Kino
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>>586433743
It's what they did with Mitsuru so probably yeah
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>>586434002
Tres bien
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>>586433808
Oh, I like the games. I enjoyed Persona 4 and Persona 3 FES playing them by myself discovering 4chan and getting into social media.
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>>586433743
Maybe they make her spout Germen
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Ann Babamaki
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>>586434487
Ann got that postpartum stare
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Journalists aren’t even bothering to pretend anymore. Why does Atlus still act as if they’re unaware of this? Even the leaked videos on youtube haven’t been taken down.
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>>586434676
Atlus probably leaked it on purpose.
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>>586434676
If they delete it, it's like admitting it's real. Basically same thing happened with the P6 already, they took down the leaks and it all but confirmed them and people repost it anyway.
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>>586434676
Atlus themselves leaked it to gauge sentiment

If people reacted negatively they could change course, without any consequences of officially announcing it
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>>586431543
Impossible!
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>>586434676
all 3 last persona games have been "leaked"
reload with yukari investor video
revival with dub VAs yapping about it out of nowhere
p1r is no different, it's all controlled marketing
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>>586435652
When you sit on your ass for more than 3 years, you deserve to get leaked.
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I choose to believe it is real because I really want it to be
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>>586435652
Need some P6 gameplay and we're golden
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>>586432558
>remake slopeater entering defensive mode upon seeing the word "new"
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>>586435652
The only real uncoordinated leak was the P6 concept art.
They yanked that shit down quick.
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>>586434676
The P1 remake makes me annoyed because it shows Reload could be a lot more interesting with the art direction than what we got. It's like very early beta and it already looks pretty nice
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The absolute delusion of thinking Atlus is leaking everything themselves.
There are fucking flat earthers here, aren't there?
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>>586436247
Well the problem with Reload is that Tartarus wasn't exactly the most interestingly designed dungeon going in. With 1 they're basically remaking actual dungeons.
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Ren Mamamia
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>>586436247
Unfortunately, I guess one game had to take the brunt of being the first ever remake 'test' and P3 ended up taking that. Now every remake learns or improves from Reload.
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>>586435652
>>586436583
It is pretty weird that they're showing off what is seemingly a moon cycle gimmick and a new battle system but the video itself doesn't have any explanations on how it works
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I will buy P4R
I will watch dsp play P1R
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>>586436752
>a moon cycle gimmick
Doe the people here not play SMT?
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>>586436936
funnily enough P3 had a moon cycle gimmick technically, i think people think it was done just there
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Only thing that matters.
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>>586436936
There is probably some gimmick to the way it works in this remake, Eligor appears on the field as soon as the cycle hits 8/8
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>>586437128
Puke shittle poom
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>>586436102
>"I am a retarded newfag"
People were begging P3 and P1 to get remakes. Only Tourists, grifters and newfags are against it
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>>586430397
>>586430495
>>586431543
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>>586438004
They said brand new game not a censored demake, we already have deload for that
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>>586437779
You love that little Soom probably more than me.
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>>586437905
The only people begging for remakes are secondaries who have never played them before lol
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>>586438256
"demake"
"deload"
Excluding yourself from the conversation using childish language like this.
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>>586438292
Yeah bro look at all these secondaries
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>>586438360
Deload is a demake.
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>>586438360
I'm calling it what it is. Not what you want it to be called. It won't be Persona 4 just like you won't be a woman.
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>>586438397
it's crazy that smt 4 is still stuck in tendie jail
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>>586438004
The P6 leaker told us they're aiming for 2027 with P6.
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>>586438913
They ported fucking etrian odyssey 1,2 and 3 to pc before smtIV, its funny as fuck
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>>586438397
Fujos are fucking crazy to get Raidou that high up
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chihiro cute
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>>586438585
>>586438687
The word "demake" has a definition already, and it's not what you're saying it is. At least you've acknowledged you're throwing a little tantrum by using these words, thank you.
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>>586439308
>When a side girl social link has a more preferable design to the main girls
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>>586438687
>in my opinion
Revival will be the definitive version of P4, you can cope all you want.
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>>586440014
>>586440826
Your shitty fanfic will never be Persona 4
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>>586441216
>
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>>586440359
Persona 5 moment desu
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fucking nidheggrs
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>>586441583
That’s a more accurate translation tb h
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We need a P5 remake
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>>586442042
P5RR
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We need a Strikers remake
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We need a Persona 3 re-remake
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Ann was supposed to free me at the end of Locktober but she's not responding to my texts...
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>>586442748
this but haru
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>>586442869
haru is not that irresponsible
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>>586442748
Well, no-nut is just starting. It’s really just her being kind and helping you out

it’s been a while since I’ve seen an “anne girlfriend …” post huh.
>>586442869
True. But also this but Hifumi
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>>586441583
>new persona
>check inside
>it's from 1987 megami tensei
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whats the most bullshit persona game difficulty wise
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>>586443315
p1
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>>586378326
Finished both the PS1 and PSP version years ago, also did the Snow Queen route in the PSP version.
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>>586441583
do we really need the legion recolor
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>>586443180
Still waiting for Jack Ripper, bro missed all the 3d games
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>>586443315
Ultimax pre-update
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>>586441216
>>586438687
>>586438585
Cope and sneed
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>>586387071
Alright, since the response was moreso in favor than not, Naoya will be replacing the Subway Slammer on the team.
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>Persona 4 Revival
>Isn't a revival that continues the story
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>>586445339
Feels kinda lame desu
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>>586445339
Nice, now we got all mcs
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>>586445339
nice
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>>586445339
leave the gacha for /p5x/ if they ever participate themselves
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>>586445339
It never felt right he was left out
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>>586445470
Admittedly, I feel bad changing stuff right after polling, but it's also my fault for polling early to get a head start on making models. I never could've expected that video to drop out of nowhere and shake things up.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_pUdaUfU0Y
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>>586445389
Fatlus have talked about wanting to do a DLC for it
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>>586446647
isnt this the guy that blew his head away in the middle of that shopping mall in dallas
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>>586445339
can you make his earring comically huge
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>>586447658
Sure
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>>586438397
Correct yes
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>>586447658
Earring with a boy
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>>586446570
Well good thing the video isn’t fake… haha
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>>586448317
Even if it is, if it gets more people to actually play p1 then I'm happy.
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>>586447654
>last upload 4y ago
Timeline checks out, it might be
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>>586445339
could you theoretically rip the p1r one after the game releases in a couple years (probably)?
just replace it then
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Personal opinion: 5 = 3 > 1 > 5 > 2
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>>586450204
Thats the plan, with every new game we're given better models to work with, like when P4R comes out of course I'll switch all p4 models to have their updated models.
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>>586450294
Hmmmmmm
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>>586450294
One of these 5s is an imposter
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>>586450549
>>586450602
Ah shit, i meant it to be 4 = 3 > 1 > 5 > 2
Fat fingered it
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4 > 2=3 > 5 > 1
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>>586450906
Based
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if... > 1 > 2 > 3/4/5
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>>586450906
>>586451270
Based
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>>586430798
>>586431098
the answer is like what if atlus just took the worst parts of persona 3, removed the best parts, and added a few cutscenes, and tried to pass it off as getting two games in one, meanwhile kotone was an actually good addition that improved persona 3, there's a reason they say work smarter, not harder
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What is a Fool to an Emperor?
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>>586456639
this illustration still the tuffest thing in the series
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>>586456639
The difference is ego
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>>586456639
Tell me about the boy with an earring. Why does he wear lipstick?
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>>586456639
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJt7gNi3Nr4
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>>586456639
I wonder if they will say the P1 cast are wildcards or just don't say it, i don't see a reason for then to mention it
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>>586457264
I think you found a 4chan bug otr something this webm is 404
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>>586394951
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>>586458572
Yukiko is too powerful for your 4 chins
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>>586456639
Free
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Literally 10 seconds into the game and it's zoomer-speak
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>he fell for p1 meme
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>>586461348
the zoomer stole it from the boomers!
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>>586461348
very good you discovered words
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>>586462141
Truly, I am a genius!
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>>586462232
OH NO!!
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>>>/gif/31369960

Meanwhile in the dojima residence....
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>>586462232
>>586462378
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>>586462785
I'm sorry but this shit is just funny. I'm not the only one laughing right?
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>>586462785
kek
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>>586463326
s'pretty funny
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>>586463326
we're entering the anime is real era and you're laugh?
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>>586462785
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>>586463771
Oh my god. Chris Chan was right
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>>586462785
man i should really look into making video aislop
i tried making god hates fags a while back and couldn't get it to work probably because of shit source video quality
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>>586461348
wait until the part when he talks about soul
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>>586462785
How Rise got her career
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>>586462785
You gotta be fucking kidding me oh my god that's hot.
As soon as I figure out how to do this Im gonna gen a few.
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I like that the parents for everyone are around in P1. It's kinda refreshing compared to nusona, where most people have their families ignored / are orphans / pseudo-orphans
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It's November. Only a month remains until we see her at Geoff's show.
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>>586466292
I can't wait
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>>586466292
sureeee
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>>586462785
this is why you can't afford ram btw
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>>586466292
>It's November.
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>>586466292
Oh shit, yeah. We might get a teaser with characters. Maybe even a shot of the main persona.
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>>586466292
>It's November
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Hope none of you moaning are engaging in that NNN shit.
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>>586467197
Already whipped one out to Mitsuru.
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>>586467197
I try not to concern myself with scams and propaganda.
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>>586467197
I'll see how long I'll last. The first week is the hardest.
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Base P5's main menu was so sovlful.
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>>586462785
There's a lot of Tifa in that thread.
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>>586467526
She gets around
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>>586467197
I'm out, already ate honey walnut shrimp.
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No one's doing a P3FES recompile and native PC port.... And now the window to do it is closed......
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>>586467745
why would we do that when we got a perfect remake?
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>>586466292
>actual P6 footage
>GTA6 sweeping all the awards
>KH4 revealing Star Wars
>Geoff burning the whole thing down to mourn Bioware
It's going to be one to remember
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>>586467827
You're not wrong but going back to my PS3 and playing FES, it chugs at 30fps and lag is present everywhere. Imagine the smoothness...
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>>586467745
qwen4 comes out this month
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>>586467965
Then I still have hope... I must have hope....
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Looking at the interrupt stuff. Guess it's based on hitting a weakness and turn order, building a chain that you can cash in with a super move.
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>>586467923
... I was joking. Reload is SHIT.

THIS GUY LIKES DELOAD!! GET HIM!!
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>>586468060
>That guy is dying
>Not now. Noodles
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>>586467745
just emulate it
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>>586468247
The P1 cast is kind of full of assholes
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>>586468247
Life and noodles are both fleeting.
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>>586468435
There's a part where you can opt to just merc an innocent scientist
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>>586467526
she's the queen of slop, i was looking for some porn of her on the panda the other day and the front page was all ai-generated galleries
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>>586468060
>Guess it's based on hitting a weakness and turn order, building a chain that you can cash in with a super move.
literally nusona but with P1 skin lol
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Now that I've seen it in both languages here are 2 facts.
It's made as if it's a presentation to either gauge interest among higher ups (directors, investors, who knows). Either that, or it's a proof-of-concept for gameplay of some kind.
The Japanese wording is fluent/native, according to JP people. It's true to how these characters originally are in P1.
So, I dunno. I'm still 80% sure it's still fake. Maybe Atlus will announce something at the VGAs.
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>>586468589
especially for that guy
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>>586468624
It's almost tragic that her legacy is just porn for how popular she is.
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>>586468675
I think it's probably real, but I question how "official" it is. If you get me. Like it probably is just something they put together to pitch to a higher up.
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>>586468610
>don't piercy don't attempt to destroy the entire cause of this disaster because you might kill this one guy!
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I always found it weird how Persona fans hates Hashino with a passion especially if you compare how other JRPG fans feel about who directs their series. Dragon Quest fans loves Horii. Xeno fans likes Takashi. Even Nomura when he gets hates you'll see portion of Kingdom Hearts and even Final Fantasy fans defending him.
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>>586469257
Akihiko growing up with a micropenis is probably true.
Junpei would have an 8 inch flopper WHILE it's soft.
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>>586469257
>Virgin Personas: Girls make mistake with the bath time and blame the boys and punish them
>Chad Devil Survivors: Peep on the girls changing on purpose. Get away with it completely and it raises your affection with all the girls.
>The one girl who notices you did it, a hot medical milf, sends you a flirty email calling you a naughty boy.
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>>586469257
asses bigger than the girls
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About to crawl into bed.
Night Personababs.

>>586467145
Ann wouldn't say that. Her birthday is in November.
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>>586469986
Ren looks like he has downs
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>>586469257
giwtwm
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>>586469704
Don't sexualize the girls, straightoid!
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>>586469257
towels in hot springs look pretty stupid if you really think about it
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>>586472468
it's either that or magical steam
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>>586458572
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>>586474629
true.
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>>586467512
Yeah because it ripped off P4's menu
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>>586438292
>>586447737
There was a literal P3onli in this general that asking for it. Lurk moar Newfag
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>>586438292
technically all of /pg/ (including you) are secondaries since nobody here has played vanilla P3
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>>586469604
Fuck off lunaticsoda
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So will Sega copyright that Persona 1 video, so actually confirming that it is real or they won't act upon it, leaving people wondering if it is real or not.
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>>586486536
It's a controlled leak like the Reload and Revival stuff. Those stayed up for weeks, now look at what happened to the P6 ones, got nukes because it was posted by someone else but their approved proxies.
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>>586486820
DESU, I'm way more excited about the idea of 1 and 2 getting remakes compared to 4 releasing soon.
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>>586486942
>Yukino
She was made before her time. The 2020s will love her (and project her being a lesbian along with Maya and Ulala).
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>>586488598
it probably doesn't help she's restricted to sqq.
probably doesn't help reiji either that's he's obtuse to recruit.
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>>586488598
i already almost never see ship art of ulala with anyone else
maya has way more art with tatsuya though
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>>586491760
morgana did nothing wrong
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>>586491760
why the fuck do people hate ohya
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>>586492053
often considered the worst social link in p5, royal made her confidant ability almost useless to most, beezlebub is mid, also devil social link is just unpopular in general outside of taneka
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>>586491760
Lol, I remember the days when Ken would've been number 1, god I'm old.
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There is 28 different types of damage in Persona 1, in Persona 4 there's only 8

Let me tell you, more is not better, you can't plan around this.

The biggest tip is the 4 "elemental" magic types are often classified in their own type as opposed to the other 4 (electric, nuclear, blast, force)
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>>586494121
Oh my fucking god... Look at all those physical types-what the fuck is that one to the far right.. Claw?? Holy cancer. I used to get annoyed when a Shadow blocked against my one of my THREE physical types in P3. I'd kill myself if a Shadow could naturally resist all those other types I had.
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>>586494121
>Nostalgiafags will look you dead in the eye and tell you all this is necessary because themes and such
kek
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>>586497610
Eh, since it's mostly locked to characters it's not really "types" at this point but "this person's melee/gun"
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>>586498167
All the elementals and ailments however are, especially with the percentages on their effectiveness. The in-game tooltips aren't very helpul or complete on these either.
P1fags will also jerk off about the grid system but 99% of time you'll run the same formation of Maki in the back, Nanjo and Mark in the front and no fights require you to tinker with it.
The only time when it actually comes to play is if your front row gets killed and the party moves up a spot
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>>586494121
I'm absolutely sure Whip/Dagger/Bow will be lumped into one big "ranged" category or just be assigned the typical slash/pierce/blunt. Gun will also just be simple "gun".
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>>586494121
imagine a modernsona game with all these types against an enemy that reflects all but one
kek
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>>586494121
It worked fine, because the game was not designed around hitting weaknesses to effectively quadruple your action economy due to the extra damage plus extra turns to do more damage.
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>>586499761
Then what's the point in even having that many types? If it didn't drastically change how you did damage what good does having all those types have? Genuine quesiton.
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>>586500396
You might not have played a lot of RPGs, so let me give you some context. In most RPGs, the first choice you face in combat isn't "Do I do the exact combo of hitting weaknesses on this group of enemies that allows me to kill them before they even get a turn?" Resistances and weaknesses have a lesser but still relevant impact. If you hit an attack that an enemy nulls in P1, that character wasted their turn, but it doesn't cause everyone else to waste theirs. Damage is much more consistent as a result, even though there are so many types of damage. This is how most RPGs work, though P1 just had way more options to mess around with.
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>>586500396
It was simply a dumb design choice in the first place. I guess the original idea was to make different characters feel more unique and to force player into making more personas and swap between them frequently.
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>>586500758
I'll also add a situation where the game is much more tolerant of hitting resistances. If a character has a strong attack that could deal damage to several enemies, but others resist/nullify/absorb it, it's often good to consider using that attack. Because in a single turn, that one character could kill several enemies, and still have the turn progress to their ally, who could kill the enemies that weren't hurt by the first attack. Again, this doesn't really happen in future Persona games because the action economy works differently. Hitting a null/absorb element ends your combo and cuts all the damage short.
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>>586500758
I've played plenty of RPGs, but I lack a lot of context for oldsona in comparison to modern. I think I get what you're saying: you’re saying having that many types is more manageable because the combat doesn’t revolve around chaining weakness hits, so picking an ineffective attack isn’t as big a setback. My question is more about what having 28 types adds. Does it lead to interesting choices you wouldn't get with fewer types, or is it mostly extra stuff to keep track of? I can see why it's less punishing than I initially thought, though.

>>586501306
I can see that too.
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>>586502620
Honestly? It didn't do much, since as other anon said, a single strong attack would work against most enemies, the other characters simply act as a backup in case that element gets blocked. Doesn't help that the leveling system actually encourages doing so, as your main damage dealer pretty much gets to steal all xp which makes them even stronger and the fights easier.
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>persona 1 looks too much like persona 5
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>>586504056
I see, in a weird way that kinda reminds me on how I dealt with enemies in The Answer back in the day on FES. Remember how people found it really difficult how enemies had hidden evade skills on their weaknesses in Answer? My solution was to just spam Thunder Reign on everything that wasn't weak to Zio. I would go out of my way to find what they "weren't" weak to just so I could guarantee big damage with another type of damage.
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Mark is Afro-Asian
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>>586504853
>This is what some genuine contrarians wish the P1 remake looked like
Want to know an extremely harsh truth? a HSR combat and UI would probably be the most fitting for P1 remakes
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>>586506106
>shared SP pool and personas that have 1, 2 skills at best
Even if it's bait I'm genuinely curious to hear how that would be fitting.
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I liked the physical split in P3
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>>586507202
i think 2 are ok but 3 was a bit too much
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>>586506106
With the kinds of skills that appear in persona games? No way, you'd never have more than 1SP ever.
HSR works because it's a gacha, not a one-and-done adventure. The design is baked in to the gameplay style, not the gameplay.
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i didn't know p4 manga had these flashbacks
i wonder if revival will use anything from manga
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>>586507446
Without context this does look like dykeshit.
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>>586507558
it would take way too many posts to fit the entire thing, but it kind of is
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>>586507202
Same, but to make it work nowadays you'll need to bring back the ability for MC to switch weapon types.
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>>586507446
the mangas used to have their own shit the games will never add, p3's manga is very different from p3 as a whole
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It's Maki Monday
Mayuzumi Monday
Maya Monday
Miyabi Monday
Mami Monday
Miho Monday
Mitsuru Monday
Maiko Monday
Metis Monday
Matsunaga Monday
Margaret Monday
Marie Monday
Makoto Monday
Mifune Monday
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>>586507446
The Kanji flashback is kinda fucked up. I wanted to dropkick those fucking kids..

Also there was some of the Yukiko, Chie stuff in the P4 Anime as well.
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>Igor def compensating for something with that new table
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>>586509681
Well he can't just unfurl it in plain sight anymore, that's lewd. More room under the table, with possibly hidden support slings too.
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>>586509681
The table is being held up by a row of naked ladies on all fours just out of view
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>>586498792
Eh
I think there’s some value in differentiating between the different gun types. Makes the guns themselves more valuable as a mechanic
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Persona 5 needs an E33 style remake
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>>586507202
>>586507332
It's the same as the physical split in D&D
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Why is there a separate gacha thread?
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>>586515151
A lot of kids here really struggle to deal with P5X being a Persona game, despite it being in the name.
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>>586515151
because gacha, same as other generals
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>>586515151
do you want gacha fans in your thread? have you ever visited a gacha thread?
pure cancer.
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>>586491760
People hate Morgana?
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>>586516104
at first it started ironically because muh sleep cat in vanilla p5 but these days people genuinely hate him
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>>586516069
But they are in the thread. There's nothing stopping you from being a user of both threads. You just wouldn't talk about P5X here.
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>>586509681
He's pissed Lavenza's been cucking him out of his spot in the spinoffs.
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>>586516104
>People
larpers
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The only P5 social link I genuinely hate is Mishima for reminding me of the average /pg/ poster.
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>>586426860
That applies to all communities here
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>>586515467
Really? I'm playing it for the first time and apart from gacha mechanics, it feels like P5, I like the designs a lot
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>>586517730
That's a really big thing to apart.
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>>586515151
Isn't the gacha thread several days old? The real question is why there's a thread for it at all.
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>>586517730
simply put, not many people like gacha games, that and gacha fans are their own breed of irritating
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>>586515151
People thought Metaphor and P5X were going to be next big things which warranted containment threads.
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Persona fanart I made.
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>>586517852
Whats wrong with having a slow general? Worst case they can come here
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Chie….
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>>586515151
because gatcha is fucking cancer
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>>586517893
not like the average/pg/ schizo is that much better tbdesu
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Daily orb
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https://youtu.be/ndohGlpWn7I
https://youtu.be/IUjcsNDVCLc?t=99
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I believe an internet wall should be placed between Hashino Persona/Metaphor fans and Oldsona/Megaten slum dwellers. Genuinely no value will be lost if we don't have to hear the opinions of the latter on Persona games after 3 and future Hashino projects.
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>>586523672
the wall is called /smtg/
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>>586523672
Are you some kinda retard
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Does the Hashinolarper know that he’s probably not directing P6
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>>586523432
Holy downgrade.
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>>586524575
It's funny how metatrannies did a 180° on Hashino despite him being responsible for all the "cringe anime" stuff that they hate about Persona
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>>586524575
Hashinolarper doesn't know that he also directed a bunch of SMT games like DDS and Nocturne
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>>586526189
dude was literally the director/game designer of nocturne, smtkeks need to thank him everyday for press turn
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I like how this guy has Goomba fallacy’d himself into thinking that everybody that likes mainline hates Persona 3 4 and 5 and that everybody that loves Persona 3 4 and 5 also loves Metaphor
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>>586526747
The only overlap I usually see is the people who dislike the story of persona 5 seem to also hate metaphor's story.

They both have the tone of "We should change society somewhat... but not at once obviously. Just... slowly change the minds of people and the ones suffering till then should just have to deal with it!"

I haven't played metaphor so you know, I'm just going off what they're saying while agreeing that 4/5 do both kind of have that problem, so I'm willing to believe that problem carried over to metaphor.
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>>586527921
metaphor addresses this directly actually
way too often people who claim that they want radical change in reality only want revenge, a tantrum of societal scale
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>>586378162
i wish we got a spin off that showed us what the persona 3/4 group was going through during the third semester of royal. like for the sees group makoto was definitely alive for a month in marukis reality
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>>586524575
P6 and future games will follow the same standard Hashino has set since P3 no matter who's in charge of P-Studio

>>586526154
Let's not pretend Persona fans didn't hate Hashino when he was in charge and now for some reason feel this weird bitterness about him exiting the series and setting up his own studio within Atlus

>>586526747
Are we seriously going to pretend mainline niggers are fans of Persona post 3?
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>>586526284
They'll never acknowledge that. Whenever Nocturne is brought up It's always Kaneko and Okada getting praised but never Hashino.
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>>586529754
>there is no overlap between people who play mainline and people who play Persona post-1 and 2
You’re a genuine retard, newfag.
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>>586530126
Me when I lie
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>Yumi Animation
I always thought that since they chose Ayane to represent the Sun in the Persona 4 Animation, Yumi wasn't in it at all..
Only now am I finding out that she actually does make an appearance.
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sexona
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In case anyone was wondering how getting new personas in P2 works

There is no fusion system. You negotiate with enemies to get cards of their same arcana, so since Pixie is lovers arcana you need 8 cards from talking with any lovers arcana enemy to make Igor summon Pixie

It summon with a set list of skills but more can be added through skill cards, which they removed in P3 and P4 for some reason until later re-releases.
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>>586516381
Sometimes we talk about P5X here
Before the threads split of course we talked about P5X here a lot more, but it still shows up pretty regularly.
Also yeah, of course - all the schizos in /p5x/ also post in /pg/. It’s not really a surprise.
>>586517730
>it feels like P5
It honestly does. In both style and substance, it really is essentially Persona 5: 2.
The change is making it a “play 15 minutes every day” kind of game instead of a “play 90 hours flat” kind of game, and of course that does give a different experience, but comparatively the mobile-gacha elements are pretty non-intrusive versus essentially every other mobile game out there, and if you really wanted to you could very easily just play the story mode and talk to social links and not worry much about the rest of it.
If someone wants more Persona, it is the best way to just get more Persona Aside from Trails of Cold Steel 1 and I guess Tokyo Xanadu (which I think is getting a sequel?)
>I like the designs a lot
I think they did an excellent job with all the characters’ personas. There are so many really really great ones.
Some of the phantom thief designs are a bit hit or miss (though not the main party, only the occasional side character) but overall pretty solid too

>>586529420
Eh. I don’t really need it. I’d be a bit interesting, but I think leaving the question open and having it be a really good topic for fan-theories is a lot more interesting.
>>586533620
She background cameos a couple times iirc. It’s just that she never gets any actual focus, because of course - Yu chose Ayane instead
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>>586534653
When i played 2 I think I just used the base personas throughout the whole game
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>>586516192
Why? he has more personality than most of the p5 cast
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lady ann butt booty naked
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People hate Morgana because his vocal direction in the english dub is terrible. Cassandra’s performance is too whiny and has zero charisma.
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>>586535619
After I found out, I looked it up.. apparently she only makes that one cameo in P4A. And she makes one in the Golden Animation.
Interestingly, Aika makes an appearance in the Animation as soon as the very first Episode. If there was one character that needed to be added in Revival, they definitely made the right choice with Aika.
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>>586536174
I honestly don't know, i find Morgana, cool and he is quite brotherly with Joker
>>586536561
That i can see
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if the universe ended in persona 2 then how did persona 3 happen?
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>>586536748
P2 Eternal Punishment explains that but in short P2 Innocent Sin was another timeline with P2EP being the canon version that goes into P3 and beyond
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>>586536960
You’re using the word canon wrong because they’re both canon
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>>586537134
That its fair
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>>586522260
bee
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Holy Hell, Yukiko's voice actress sold that scream

Also Shadow Yukiko scene is animated now, pretty cool.

>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/-1ZFDl3syjI
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>>586544840
I don't understand their decision-making with what to animate and what not to. P3R had some strange choices here as well.
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>>586541208
Orbee
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Who wore it better?
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Kissing Maki
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>>586546286
KEK Morgana Incineroar looks funny
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Kissing Aki
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>>586547907
based
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stripping fuukers in public
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>>586545465
Yukiko is the first real boss
it's a big moment
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>>586467197
I've decided to stop jorking it since it plummets your T levels significantly
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>>586545465
I suspect Yukiko's Castle will have the best/one of the best presentations in the game because its the setup for the game. After her, the dungeons will probably become much more routine.
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>>586549436
>>586467197
I've jo'd off at least 7 times since November 1, my T levels are obviously fine or I wouldn't in the first place
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>>586467197
I don't do NNN, but I have noticed that since I started going to the gym a few years back I've felt less horny overall. Idk if that's connected to working out, but...
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>>586467197
I need at least 1 daily fap or i'd die
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>>586467197
I'm not.
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>>586550217
You should talk to your doctor about that.
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>>586550743
I haven't been to a doctor in nearly 15 years, I live in the US with no insurance, I am ironically probably healthier than the vast majority of my peers though.
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What does /pg/ think of the prototype trailer for the p1remake
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>>586551558
we don't think.
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>>586551558
looks nice
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>>586551558
it's cool enough but it is a big departure from p1. i'll likely buy it day 1 anyway.
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>>586551558
id get it day 1
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>>586551558
we think therefore we are
I liked it
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peesona
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>>586551558
Fake
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>>586551558
There was nothing about it that I found unacceptable and if it was properly revealed I could potentially get hype for it.
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>>586551558
It looked fake and gay
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>no new thread
but why
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>>586555979
to piss you off
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>>586555979
i dont know how to do it
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New bread
>>586556441



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