Slowed Edition>INFORMATION & GUIDESWiki: https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Portal:GameNews: https://dota2.com/newsPatches: https://dota2.com/patchesUpdates: https://dota2.com/news/updatesLore: https://liquipedia.net/dota2/LoreFor League players: https://dotabuff.com/learn/lolBug tracker: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Dota2-Gameplay/issuesX: https://x.com/dota2>STATISTICShttps://dota2protracker.com/https://dotabuff.comhttps://opendota.comhttps://stratz.comhttps://stats.spectral.ggPersonal game data: https://steamcommunity.com/my/gcpd/570>ESPORTShttps://liquipedia.net/dota2/Portal:Esportshttps://datdota.comhttps://dota2.com/esportshttps://gosugamers.net/dota2Previous: >>586134747
Like the Wind!
Buff Hoodwink
8.00 will be a movie in 2027
the windrunner poster is becoming the best poster in the general...
Just got DC'd from my game and I can't reconnect now it says I can leave without risk and it won't count?
man it's so weird, it didn't even cost me the token I was supposed to use
>>586405030I tried playing Gyro recently and the flak cannon cd nerf makes it impossible to farm as fast as before
Low key the worst thing Valve has done in the game is making aghanim's a big upgrade for most "support" heroesThe whole point of support ops is that they don't need items to perform well, so they can let their allies farm and buy team assist items with whatever gold they get. You dangle scepter and shard and now the supports have an incentive to farm for themselves. Nothing has ruined pubs as much as this little change
>Ogre magi players always buy Midas for the multicast meme>They never buy Atos, Orchid, Halberd, Sheepstick for the same reason
Two games in a row where there's mass DCs and it becomes safe to leave. Just let me play!
>>586408171Everything stupid player can be traced back to Torte de linifucking nigger redditor did more harm to dota that anything else could.
>>586408171unironically only sheepstick is truly worth it for that and good lucky putting that together in a timely fashion without a midas meme>you now remember blink abyssal ogre multicasts
>>586409040abyssal still casts at range if you multicast it btw
>>586409040Hard disagree. Atos is a fantastic item on supports, and Orchid is better than Sheepstick most of the time, losing only against right clickers and dispels. Halberd is even better than Orchid due to being undispellable, but random multicasts might not be as effective depending on the enemy team's composition
>>586409472>Halberd is even better than Orchid due to being undispellableunc...
>>586409643?I'm pretty sure it's still undispellable
halberd can rot in hell
>>586410065What were they playing against? Lmao
>>586410205this was back when it was actually undispellable a few years ago, i was trollyou can imagine how much i was playing the game
>>586408171Midas is just too good there's no scenario where you're not buying midas in fact you pick ogre to buy midas and that's how it is
I was playing with a friend and couldn't explain to him that im 3k mmr above him for a reason and he needs to do stuff i told him to in order to win. I was thinking about it and figured out that he's actually a retard probably.
ALLOW ME TO BUY 3 AGHANIM SCEPTERS!!!>I WANT TO HAVE CATACLYSM!>I WANT TO HAVE MINI TORNADOES!>I WANT TO HAVE VECTOR ICE WALL!ALLOW TO BUY 3 AGHANIM SHARDS!!!>I WANT TO HAVE SUNSTRIKE FORGE SPIRITS!>I WANT TO HAVE EMP PULL AND BURN!>I WANT TO HAVE RADIANCE GHOST WALK!LET ME BUY NOTHING BUT AGHANIM! LET ME BE THE ARSENAL MAGUS!!!
it's ogre
>>586411986You can't make anyone learn. The best you can do is demonstrate by your playing that there are skills he can learn until he asks you for help by himself
So a dude started accusing someone of being Afghan... I guess that's an Iranian's Iranian.
i like browsing russian dota content
>put dota on the ssd>i can now have something else in the background
Dota works like shit regardless of your setup.
>>586415721You don't like 50GB of hats???
I've switched to carry because offlane sucked. It's way more fun :)
why does this faggot topson think it's ok to grief by picking grim mid lane? you get reported for less in lower mmrs
>>586415721lol no
>>586407326>NOOOO WILLOW YOU CAN'T JUST BECOME A WALKING ARTILLERY CANNON YOU HAVE TO BUY FORCE AND GLIMMER TO SAVE ME WHEN I CHOOSE BAD FIGHTS
>>586417512lol yesit always hovers around 70 to 90 fps on average.
>>586413610This is more like a sermon and a way of acting or carrying yourself now than it is about dota anymore
>current year>still no loli pugna persona
>>586417935Yeah pretty much. You can't put the right ideas in anyone's head. You can't help anyone who doesn't want your help, and you can't force people to introspect no matter how hypocritical they are. I know 60 year old boomers who constantly complain about others doing to them the exact same shit they do to others, and have never in their long lives noticed the irony
>>586417670lol have you tried not being poor?
>>586417670>Average FPS of 157 (median 161), with 99% of measurements at 90 FPS or higher, 93% at 120 or higher, none below 60, and the lowest 5% of measurements at 114.>The CPU averages 78°C, with thermal throttling occurring 14% of the time and a peak temperature of 100°C. >The GPU averages 75°C, with a maximum of 87°C and thermal limiting active 24% of the time.This is what Claude gathered from a HWinfo .csv file i fed to him about one of my last dota games. I have a medium range few years old thinkpad workstation. I think it runs just fine
Event?Act 2??Patch???
>>5864188018.00
I’m playing on a 5060 and Ryzen 5. And I can still do 4K Max settings.I do run out of RAM sometimes though. But that’s more to do with background processes.
>>586418678>>586418785>AIlol retardsPlay the actual game instead.
>>586416801last time i had a grim mid i picked doom and we raped the enemy
>>586407326>The whole point of support ops is that they don't need items to perform wella completely outdated line of thoughtwhy should two players be expected to play without items every game
ALERT THIS POSTER IS A TRANNY REDDITOR SUPPKEKTROON DISREGARD HIS POSTS!!!!>>586424951ALERT THIS POSTER IS A TRANNY REDDITOR SUPPKEKTROON DISREGARD HIS POSTS!!!!
>>586419579And who cares?
supports should be seen and not heard
i'm grim stroking it under the desk rn.
where tf mason
>Yatoro on his way to win his 4th TI with a bunch of no name pubbersHow does he do it?
>there are games where it's okay to take your hand of the keyboard>there are games where it's okay to take your hand of the mouseI don't like having to micro manage my drink while I'm playing vidya.Dota is the only game where I have to keep my drink on the left side.
>>586425978Mason got loss-queued, so he decided to call it quits.
i have like 40 role queue tokens and no hero i like enough to spam them on
spirit won 3-0 huh? were yandex bad?
>>586427069batyuk locked in
>>586427069yes, and they drafted like shit
>>586426040never overcommitsyou deal zero damage while dead
mason is looking fatter every day
Sproink?
>legion duels someone>I put them in tombstone>she just stands around like an idiot until duel endsI fucking love this shard.
>Zeus ult now!
>>586433771cute slark
>26 to 3i'm starting to learn why nobody waits in a half hour queue for ability draft
>>58643468235 minute queue, 18 minute gameprettty epic
>>586434682>playing DOTA for funIf you're not playing to increase number, you shouldn't be playing at all.
>>586435216the 2 games I've had in the "fun" mode have been drafting a bunch of auto attack passives and being left to solo lane by a guy screaming at me to let him last hit, and drafting a bunch of stuns and supporting for a 3-man that was 1 to 13 in 8 minutes vs a 5-man
>>586435216its a video game, if you arent being paid to play then the objective is to have fun
What a nigga gotta do to get MVP in this bitch???
Woof
DEAD THREAD
>>586435740>getting paidJust a different form of increase number.
>pos 5 medusa>rushed meteor hammerNo difference between 1k MMR and 3.
I don't think anyone can explain the dusa pos 5 pick
>If I'd known I'd end up here, I'd have stayed in Dark Reef Prison.
>>586442949sex
SEXO MIRESKA
Crystal Maiden's Rampage voiceline completely shatters the illusion that she's not a hideous old lady behind the microphone
when the fuck is the patch
hahaha
People will go on about valve's godlike sound design and then you have Silencer and Shadow Demon whose spell sounds are just their voicelines with some filters
>>586443408december by dream league if not 2027
my offlane WK ain't doing so hot.,
reincarnation is a strange ability in that it does nothing if you're behind, but if you're too far ahead it also does nothing
>>586445521how would you buff it
>>5864448280/7 as WK that early is his team's fault0/3 as undying that early is your fault
>>586445521>but if you're too far ahead it also does nothingyou are supposed to press R to kill yourself to summon skeletons if you are that far ahead, dumbass
>>586445521what if wraith form proc'd even if you have reincarnate so you wraith form > reincarnate > wraith form if you die twice
>>586445980>0/7 as WK that early is his team's faultLOL
>>586445980Bro he didn't even level his skellies
i can feel itskeleton king event soon
my organs hurt from drinking hard prob gonna die in a few years at this rate. ive deranked from immoratl to archon 3 lmfao
How the fuck am i supposed to win against someone that faced down a volcano?
>>586443612>PeopleRedditors aren't people.
Wow, garbage cores, and my pos 5 was a jeet.Unwinnable even 4 vs 5.
Reddit smoked /d2g/ in multiple scrims back in the day. This place is filled with shitters. Redditors may be redditors, but they're better at the game.
>>586445763>>586446276
November 2ndNo Halloween Update or Event update in sightDota has been forgotten.
Instead of Diretide we got a chest
>>586448067Stop playing support and take the 4th core pill
The trove was halloween themed. Be thankful you got that.
this game is so raped
Why is Wraith King so ludicrously easy to kill anywayHe's a strength carry with a revive and it still feels like he dies as fast as an anti-mage
>>586448603WK actually has the worst overall stat gain of all the Strength heroes (Ignoring Huskar and Ogre).Item builds are another factor. Phase->Radi->Blink->Shard doesn't really give you that much EHP.LS actually has similar stat growth, but he has Rage at least and people usually go Armlet+Manta after Radiance.
>>586448363wasnt dota2 not getting halloween updates 10 years ago? Wasnt that why we got the giff diretide meme
>>586449809Doesn't he also have godawful natural armor
That's what I like to SEE!
>>586451115Pick Slark
>>586451229Slark is DOG SHIT
>>586452296He's secretly op (and cute)
>Get shown on the start screen with a 4 win streak>Team so bad we lose a 5v4They don't even bother to pretend to hide itThey specifically instruct them to go into my game, buy 3 wraith bands, a half hour battlefury into moon shard, and never show up to fightsThe afk shadow shaman they controlled while dead had more k/p than our support
Uhhh, what
>>586455263shut up
love it when the 4/15 shadow shaman is talking shit
>Sven's neutralsLoss-queue game.
Bro just blindly follow torte de lini guides XDDD
>>586456375Why is it always Shadow Shamans that play and type like monkeys mashing a keyboard
>>586427069they locked ammar's ween like a cuck, they lost ws expected. no ammar heroes no win
Dota or mhgu what a tough choice
so what do i do to counter arc warden? whenever i see him picked he solos my team, what items can i built to stop him?
why the fuck is the patch taking so long like seriously
>>586460842scope creep, its too huge for valve
>>586460842Act 28.00Deadlock crossover event
>>586460327guardian greaves to disspell orchid
>>586460842>Being excited for the steaming hot shit coming out of Campo's asshole
>>586417661Not the guy your replying too. I have no problem with supports becoming dangerous later in the game, just make it tied to their level/talents or some shit and not items/farming.
>>586460327just blink into his bubble and punch him to death. He's extremely frail
Since when did they start giving people more MMR on wins than on losses??I was perfectly fine in the 2k trench with my 50% winrate but now I'm having to fight more and more sweaty retards only moving as 5 and with smokes and shit hello??
>>586464978Oh wow, 30 instead of 25. The Immortal lobbies are gonna be ruined now.
>>586465176I just noticed that I'm at 3k and it sucks here
>>586465239think abt it for a sec, all the ppl that used to be in ur 2k lobbies are now in ur 3k lobbies. Why would valve do this? Idk, shifting the median rank from archon to legend I'spose, to give permastuck grinders a sense of accomplishment
>>586460842Dota doesnt make money for Valve. its not popular, its high point has already passed and valve completely fumbled it because they actually were expected to put in some work instead of just autopiloting it to make passive money through hats. People are already addicted to it so there is no point in keeping them around with content updates, whereas other live service games get them every 3-4 months or so, story, hats, gameplay and events.
>>586465519Gabe likes dota though. That's why he won't give up on us. When someone new takes over valve; we're getting shit-canned for sure, though.
>>586465842liking doesnt mean caring.I also like soccer, but I dont go around spending money on tickets to see matches or watching every single match.
>>586466012He's claimed to play dota. Maybe Gabe just likes dota in the current state it's in.
The days are getting better!
>here are your supports bro
>>586472353th... thanks...
>>586472353I wish my midas supports at least built vesselUsually it's midas then Agh's. Or worse, midas then K&S
>he isn't roleplaying as a chinese immigrant over vc to boost moralYou cunts are not on my level
surprised they aren't working diretide into the carnivalmakes sense thematically
Yup, it's rank up day.
>>586478397Happy for you bro
>>586478397Wow that's the next free rank I'm about to get for literally just existing in the current mmr system.
>>586479847https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRE9d0M4VIQSays that the new system is actually correcting some errors and the ranking up is just a faster rearrangement.
>>586478397Any rank lower than immortal means you're functionally retarded and should be on the receiving end of a worldwide eugenics program
>>586480992Rude, I just haven't played enough games yet
>>586465519>Dota doesnt make money for Valvesource?
>>586482575>Dota is primarily played by Russians and SEAsians>The aforementioned are largely poorfags, cheap, and freeloaders>the three most played games on steam, by a very large margin, are D2 CS2 TF2. This implies that a very large amount of steam users ONLY use steam to play F2P gamessource: common sense
>>586480992This you?
>>586482886>common sense>aka dood trust methanks for confirming you're full of shit
>>586482886>u-um.. becaws [headcanon] xDyawn
>>586480508Crazy. You can't trust any teammate below 3k mmr.
shouldn't it be, the money dota makes is a drop in the bucket compared to steam
>it doesnt make money*lol u retard*>w-well s-sure it does but [goalpost]lole
>>586484697yes, monetizing dota to the full extent possible is not part of the planpraise be to gaben
Goodgoy scoring post passing through
it would be kino if devs just deleted the behavior score system and schizos like >>586485815 would play with 12k good boys and all hell would be let loose
>>586485815The implication being that this person plays unranked games for the sole purpose of abusing and griefing new players
>>586485815>>586486080we only want to play with actual humans sorry, try to be a decent human being instead of some keyboard-mashing ape, maybe you could play with us honest people at 12k.
>>586486080that would be a masononium (my way of combining mason and pandemonium)
>>586486551I'm at 12K too but it would be funny to witness
>>586488380I want to break and enter into your household and transfer all your behaviour score to myself.
Apparently the fundamental forces that the fundamentals are based on aren't actually fundamental or forces, and half of them aren't even realso it's pretty cool they also made them light dark order and chaos on the side just in case
>THAT ABILITY IS AN INSTAWIN ABILITY, ITS YOUR FAULT WE LOST FOR NOT DRAFTING THAT ABILITY AND THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ME BEING 3000 MMR
Dude wtf with the scripies and maphack? or are they all bot to inhumane level?>They know all the map and have no wards. >Perfect timing and group coordination. >retarded items but make them work anyways>lose fights but appear with itemsLol, is either bots in retarded, scripies and maphackers or bots in inhumane... dota is no longer for humans.
>>586491998>muh botsthis is some new found cope
tried out deadlocki can safely say that it's still fucking garbage
didnt ask
yeah but im letting you knowthe matchmaking is also dogshit and the game is already infested with cheatersyou can thank me for this information
>>586493007ok tronie, >1m players>40 minute queue>single person dont ready>40 minute queue>get matched with botsEverything is alraight
>>586493746thanks, personally I dont play it because it looks very ugly and also too spastic
>>586493785you play on some dead server at 200 behavior score i mean it's time for some introspection
>>586493923not my fault
>>586494972>200 behavior score>play on some dead south american server when you could queue NA east like every spic out thereget a fucking grip you weird thirdie fuck
>>586491715What ability and what did you pick instead.If someone picks something retarded then I am going to complain because they won't learn otherwise.
>Pudge has been banned.>Pudge was chosen by both teams!Is there any better chat message than this?
our sniper support just threatened to jungle because he didnt like that the off wanted to cut waves to fix his matchup because it would be griefing his game
the radiant situation is crazy
>communication is key in a team based game>the ability to communicate is completly removedExplain this without cope, dotards.
>we were hoping for a BB roster change>The org instead, leaves dota 2 scenejowari da
>>586499804chat wheel exists
>>586499804most people don't even talk anymore they're so traumatized
>>586497284Pudge is the greatest hero in dota 2
>>586499804then do tell why your ability to communicate got removed>Inb4 mental gymnasticsno, i want the actual, valid reason. your chatlogs etc.
>>586499804Blaming your teammates and crying isn't communication
>>586497045I picked vendetta first because vendetta is fucking broken, it's everything good about bounty and tree rolled up into one ability with a pure damage nuke added, and these fucking retards complained because I didn't pick up glaives instead.
>>586500378>The org instead, leaves dota 2 scenethey explicitly stated the opposite tho
PV roster changeGPK in, No[one) out, Dukalis out Save-in.
The Radiant situation is dire
>>586500585Why is dota 2 like this? how can valve get away with it?
>>586502593Nice bait, got me to think for a moment what a subhuman retard you are
>>586502820>Jewish talkIm not even surprised.
>>586502593>>586502593>Visión general creada por IAspics making the stupidest takes possible as always
>>586502593i did say that i didn't want mental gymnastics.
>>586502593>severe isolationonly brought on by behavoir which warrants isolation>heavy penalitiesthe penalty matches the action>unfair matchmakingyou are the only constant in your games>toxic or unsupportive environmentone that the user creates and has control over
Damn man
>>586506740the roster was going no where after getting exposed so heavily at the last tournament
mason will stream today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>586507432fuck me... he's 35...?i thought he was like 32
>>586465519Didn't the new Arcana created the highest number of active players in a few years?
>>586500814that would never happen dukalis is the mastermind that makes them win games
what killed dota
>>586508975nothing, game is alive and well
>EIGHTY FIVE minute game because the cores with a huge lead in min 30 decided to jerk around rather than take any raxfucking kill me
>>586508975same thing killing the west, great replacement
>>586508975rusnigs
is there a waterboarding hero? my domme wants to try
>>586508975Reddit + Valve themselves.Any other company would've made this game a huge generational successs far beyond anyone could comprehend. people would still be talking about like they do league. Characters would've become icons of gaming.
>>586509764Tidehunter.
>>586509768the only niggas who still care about league are esports gossipers (so really same as this thread)the egirls are at valorant
>>586509969everyone and their mom knows league heroes and league itself or played itnobody knows dota.
they need to add more heroes with stuff you can drop on the floor like undying tombstone or pugna nether ward. maybe a hero that only works based on that
>>586510274your average roblox zoomer doesnt give a shit we're all in the same boomer basket
>>586509768>RedditSo a bunch of opinionated jews that dont even play the game made this gem of a game into pure shit.The game highly punish more than it rewards, brokem mmr (it shouldnt even exist).
>>586510513Riot won in the end. Face it cuck, there is nothing you can do about it because you have gabens' cock so far down your throat you can't even form your own thoughts anymore.
dude you're here every day complaining about bots, wintrading, behavior score, every possible conspiracy as to why you don't have fun playing this game. if the whole world is against you and makes you want to hate this game, why don't you just go do something else? literally anything else, not even a video game, just anything
>>586510868Dopamine from getting 4chan social interactions
>>586510761always penis in the brain
>>586507128Ironically enough it's where they started getting their stride. Save found some heroes, especially Invoker.
>>586508837If he were the mastermind, then they sure would need to replace him considering their recent results.
>>586508975I did. I killed Dota. Are you sad that I killed Dota?
>>586511343what are you even saying you goldfish memory having monkey?
>>586508975Techies releasing
>>586510761>anon's agressive posture is thinking about dicksi'm not really too interested on what you're trying to get here so. maybe if you were a cute japanese girl then i would consider your opinion, but you're a balding, skinny fat chud in his mid 30's trying hard to get (You)'s so no
>>586511646They only lucked out in T.I. since Yandex was not in full form, Puppey even said that they copied their playstyle.Pari's never getting near gold again, the team's gonna be fighting for 3rd and below placement
>>586512038Okay so they need to kick half their roster because... they're not winning every tournament. Get a fucking grip weirdo lol
>>586510868 's
I don't know why I can't make Axe work.am I supposed to Blink + Call + run away most of my engagements? because when I stand in I just get fucking annihilated.
>>586512509>Blink + Call + run awayreminds me of when axe was picked as a pseudo batrider
another literally unwinnable game from draft
>>586512509Depends alot on the matchups and your items, enemy items but yeah you have to resort to that stuff sometimes Run away sounds stupid though, you run towards your team
>>586512190relax man, i only ever mentioned Noone and dukalis, we focused on dukalis since you mentioned he's the brains, which i confidently disagree with.. he's nothing like Satanic whose highly valued, that even the org itself, bought his contract from Spirit for some good $$$ therefore Dukalis is still open to be replaced.
>>586512509You are supposed to rape the lane you are in until the entire team decides to gangrape you.
>>586512935>we focused on dukalis since you mentioned he's the brains, which i confidently disagree withhe's the one shot calling in game. satanic is the star player because he's the highly skilled carry but the guy who says who goes where and what the team does during the game is dukalis
I miss GG honestly, they were really good closing out games early. Too bad the org was run by some bastard that also stabbed their players behind their backs at other games
>>586512509depending on the matchup situation, you might need to be the saveyou can initiate when ganking, but in a messy teamfight where your team is not the one initiating you can also stay back and go in as a counter to relieve pressure on your carry at the appropriate time
>>586512509IMO Offlaners need to be super aggressive in their play, and Axe is perhaps THE most aggressive. Run up to people in lane and fish for helix procs. Farm the enemy jungle right in front of their wards. Harass anyone who comes to evict you. Blink right into the enemy backlines under a tower and start smacking the supports. Your job is to be impossible to ignore, so that your allies have room to farm, maneuver and fightNow, if you failed in the early game and can't actually survive a blink+call obviously you can't do that. In that case you should try to counter-initiate. Let your team be the bait and caught out of position, or wait until the enemy gathers up to siege a tower, then blink in just after they commit to a fight. Save whoever got jumped (if you can) and give your team a chance to fire their spellsInitiator is a very hard role to play if you're not on the same wavelength as your team. Don't assume that your team will follow your lead, you must be sure that it's convenient and desirable for them to follow you. Especially when they're slower and don't have blinks. Don't initiate when (you) want to fight, initiate when your team wants to fight
>>586513323lawsuit status?
>>586513323quinn costs them millions in sponsors. the narrative of the org being bad guys is flat out wrong
>>586513134that doesn't really matter, at the end of the results is still what they are after, and let's be clear here, their form is getting sloppy. either Dukalis that you said is the mastermind provides results, or eventually be replaced, it's not like he's buddy buddy of the organization owner that he can't just be removed, and definitely not aswell as super valued in the PRO scene.
>>586513880He was scapegoated lol, you'd think he was sperging on about some super taboo topic, but he was quiet as shit in official matches.What eas the issue again? ah he said gambling bad one time in pub, and you tell me they lost sponsors over that? nah nah
>>586514960no he was making comments about russia or kazakhstan that he had no reason to make except him being an immature tilted autist and turns out some people didn't like it and pulled a lot of money out of the org. The org is right to sue him over that, though I guess he'll get off scot freeyou don't even know the backstory or what you're talking about
>>586512945how the fuck do you win offlane in current year?
>>586515452offlane has never been more easy
its almost 2027 and dota is still a thing
>>586515452Play conservatively, throw spells to harass the carry and get last hits, block the small camp with wards or your body, farm the hard camp
>>586515646I will play this garbage game when I'm 60 and my fingers hurtAlthough it would be cool if they make a dota 3
>>586515452Harass the safe laner until he tilts and realizes his support is just griefing by being AFK in the treeshappens 75% of the time. Suppors are passive cucks that dont do anything unless its high rank or is a functional human being. Alternatively he can be bad too and your own support can be a stupid fucking idiot who walks into the jungle to contest impossible creep pulls and feed. thats how you generally lose the lane, not because the other support is better but because your own is even dumber than a sack of bricks.Tilting the enemy carry is the easiest way to win a lane.
>>586515646you should be used to it by now.
>>586515680wrong reply %*
>>586515684>>586515742idk this shit doesn't work in immortal my pos4 is never around and doesn't help wave management at all and I'm always fighting 1v2 without solo exp.
>>586515452desu in the trench I learned to just focus on getting last hits, I will take kills if they come since I'm supposedly stronger that their carry but going out my way when the support is just an unknown variable usually ends up being counterproductivejust farm
>>586516137Why are you asking 2k mmr players when you're immortal, dumbassWatch high level players if you want to learn then
>>586516242I thought all of us were immortal except the germ*n and aug*r.
>>586515742this happens but i'm the safe laner in this scenario
oh yea im sure its so common that your 5 "thought he queued mid" that it has to happen to me 3 times in a row hahahahhahah SURE DUDE LOSS QUEUE ISNT REAL BTW!!!!!!!!!
>>586516380I have less MMR than aug*r
>>586516137You don't fight 1v2. If your pos 4 is a retard you play conservatively, leech XP and try to get some last hits with spells. You're not going to win a 1v2 lane, obviouslyIf you can't even stay in range to leech then go farm the side camps and/or stack the triangleEventually the pos5 will leave the carry alone because he's useless there
>>586515452play doom and rape your matchup, lvl your E atleast one as litmus test of his intelligence, if hes stupid, all in and max your W, get 2 bracers if you think u want to stay in lane (low threat), chip your matchup with E's and hits, then Walk the nigga down under his tower with your W.
hi /d2g/, what is your most shit hero, the one where no matter how much mmr you gain you never win with because you're just that bad?mine is loss prophet, climbed from legend to immortal and i never got a win
this game would 100% improve if they removed the fucking guides that the stupid fucking NPCs follow blindly.
>>586517791well... this is me
sick of farming tokens gonna queue safe+off and play like a carry no matter what
BB players reported to be parting ways already. save 4 kiyotaka 2 in some stack
>>586517791This fucking guy
Everyone that complains about Augar is lower mmr than Augar and jealous of Augar
I had voice chat for like a day and then immediately lost 2,000 comms score.
>>586519614You cannot say anything in this game if you hope to keep your good goy scores up. This game has extreme levels of censorship yet retards defending this dogshit company will try to convince you otherwise.
Working as intended btw, you crying in ghe void won't convince anyone ;)
i wrote an email to gaben i hope he can fix it
Okay, I have a solution. Allow dota players to opt out of the comms / behavior score system.There, everyone is happy.
that's it, I'm done.I'm hard stuck on 2.9k, I can't carry games anymore, I barely just get by with winning games at this point in time, I'm getting about the same amount of kills as I am getting deaths even in the best scenarios, that's it, I've reached my absolute peak, I'm never going beyond this. It's done, it was fun while it lasted, boys, but I am not getting any higher than this. I just have to accept that I am not good enough to get higher than 2.9k or 3k, I'm not good enough and that's that. I'm going to have to find something else to do with my time.
It's actually really funny how nobody talks anymore out of fear of eating a report
>>586520653Pick undying.
that one core cuck, playing pve here be like:
https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/9070945899/Why won't Augar stop BM pausing on people?
>>586520653Bad mentality, what about your ambition to climb 10k mmr and join PRO to represent us and destroy reddit?
>>586520801>reddit screenshotjust fuck off there you annoying thirdie nobody likes your kind
>>586521046Dota 2 devs actually listen to reddit, what about you? be honest about it, what can you actually do with me being here?
>>586521209yea? then wheres the patch
>>586515193Lol thank you quinn blew that team up really not talked about enough but quinn is protected so to be expected
>>586518342>expecting loyalty from a hired gun
>>586520890What a throw. Holy shit.
>>586521432he's a big guy
>>586521304soon™ worry not lil timmy, daddy will get you patch soon!
>>586520890>>586521561BM pause gives motivation to team.Never Give UpFeelsStrongMan
>>586521561FACTUAL trvthnvke stunless supp duo = lose in pubs
>>586518228I've been queuing safe + off + mid for the past weekgetting about 60% off 40% mid 0% safe. Literally not a single safelane game. I'm actually surprised how unpopular mid is
>>586521827Veno + AA seems like such griefer picks.When I see a veno it's almost always a role abuse report from me.
Literally who??
>>586520676i got niggas writing on the map in 12k/12k games
>>586520676I spam these soundboards constantly at 8k behavior score and its been going up>aiee but you have 8k behavior scoreall from abandons of shitty games that I didnt feel like continuing
>>586508975Neutral items>ButNeutral items
>PA or Ursa on enemy team>losewhat causes this?
>>586523524your team didnt have a omniknight
one thing that sucks about this number patch is the neutral item catalogue most of them are really boring and dogshit we used to have fun ones the only thing now is that your magic damage guy has to get conjurer's catalyst the other neutral items might as well not exist seeing how useless and shitty they are
>>586523698just because the average UNGA BUNGA retard dota player picks MOAR DMG doesnt mean the other neutrals are uselessNot the devs fault that alot of people are just soulless npcs
>>586523914Say that for facets rip you will always be missed
>>586523914>me ooga>team POSSESSED MASK
I get Jidi pollen bag everytime.Its very good and its better than conjurers against healniggers.
>>586523914nah theyre terrible and not fun
>>586521561Augar is just so good
>>586519879I don't understand why they implemented this dogshit retarded goyscore system anyway its the dumbest thing ever
remember when golems had a free passive bkb? unc here remembers
thirdies can only talk about behavior/comm score they're like a broken record no wonder they're poor and smell bad
>>586523698I haven't even read half of them and have no idea what they do
>>586520641Really? No (You)s? I thought this was a perfect solution that makes everyone happy.
>>586525373>ack
I turned 30 years old. I started playing this game when I was 15.Comfort me.
>>586526867You had lots of fun playing it probably
>>586526867You're not alone, if that consoles you.
>>586526867if there was time for mcscrooge to change his life there is time for you too
>>586526867in 5 years you'll finally be good.
>>586526867How does it feel to be a unc now
I like it in here. For the first time, in a long time, I feel like... like I'm right where I'm supposed to be.
>>586528328yo mason is live get on bro
>>586528328Wow this might biggest compliment /d2g/ has gotten almost makes me want to shed a tear
>"support" undying with first item MantaLE ONLY CONSTANT FACE
>>586528328On certain days my twitch has no sounds.pls help
>>586510405>Clockwork>Veno>Shaman
MASON IS JUST DOMINATING AS ANTIMAGE HOLY SHIT HE IS SO FUCKING GOOD
>deadlock mmr>dota mmreternus (top 100 at the start of this year)4104
>>586531871ascendantimmortal
But when I say it months ago yall niggas cook me
>>586406072https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/1xm7jif/l_quit_and_ever_since_life_has_become_beautiful/https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/1xm7jif/l_quit_and_ever_since_life_has_become_beautiful/https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/1xm7jif/l_quit_and_ever_since_life_has_become_beautiful/
>>586531952yea he's right>>586532076yea he's right
>>586532076
>>586526867I've been playing dota for 22 years
Ever since I started queuing offlane I have developed a pure seething hatred for Ogre pickers. These motherfuckers are worse than a melee creep. They blow all their mana in the first minute, then just sit there. No pulls, no contesting pulls, no wards, can't harass for shit. Or worse stealing your last hits and then pinging "need 1200g to finish hand of Midas". The unconstrained contempt I have for these "people" cannot be overstated
>>586531952i had one recently and it sucked
>>586532501play ogre yourself he's a core
>>586532076lmao what a pussy
>>586532559No, I don't think I will. I think if I see an ogre pos 4 at the pick screen I will pick Lycan, Enigma or NP and go get lost in the jungle. He can play 1v2 in the offlane, see how he likes being a core
>>586532530hero doesnt have a stun and cant heal others
>>586532530are you sure you didnt suck
>>586532076>Dropped from Ancient 1 to whatever legend 2-3 it is or was, but came across this screenshot in my library and man, life has become so much better LMAO, super fit, lifting heavy, sleeping well, earning great, XYZ and looking at this screenshot I wonder, what of all the arguments and the STUPID players I queued with, reasoning with them and what not, they must be still stuck losing hair and sleep over this stupid game lmfao.can i achieve all of this if i just stop playing dota2?
>>586533398lol the nigga is larping he just gave up you can achieve all that while playing dota you dont quit the game 4-5 months ago then in that time frame become super fit lifting heavy unless you were doing that before while playing dota
mason is fuming at his support alchemist
lol augar got banned by mason
>>586535242kek bodied that freak
literally all I said was "Troonlock" and got an instant ban by him personally. Lmao
>>586533398you should be able to do it while still playing.
mason crashing out rn
what the fuck is with immortal pos1 players? they just right click the enemy and win or lose the stat check. no attempt to avoid damage or reposition in a fight.
i'm glad mason got immediately bored of deadlock by watching 30 seconds of a deadlock videoif he played that, it would really be over.
wow he really is gonna do Troonlock. It's over, masonbros.
Anyone mod in mason chat here?I've been banned for I dont even know what anymore, it cant have been that badI'm also banned from his donations for spamming something nigger related so I cant even donate to request to get unbanned
soft ass chat
noticed some weird new red marks on mason's collarbone area whats up with that
>>586537435He's clearly on edge. Maybe he started using meth.
>>586536818dumb nigger
oh so mason is allowed to say nigger when he's singing along to his rap songs,but i say it once and i get perma'dwhere's the justice?
>>586538004his mods are snowflakes, I got a week ban for typing "I" after someone typed "N" for the gamer word chain.
>>586536818>>586536884>>586538004>>586482925
so i was looking for a way to buy the latest rust twitch drop and found a dota2 teammate buying service and as a special for 1,5bucks surchage it will be a egirl who plays with me, isnt that amazing?
>>586538236enjoy your roleplaying voicechanger russian bro
>play a 1:18 (1 (one) hour and 18 (eighteen) minutes) game>lose
Well you have to be a massive faggot to moderate the chat of someone making thousands of dollars a month for zero compensation in return
>>586538383Damn sounds like you calling them cucks
>>586538383just like our jannies
I was pos 4 and I trilaned yesterday. No one really asked for it, but our 3 was doing well and our 1 was suffering so it just made sense.
>>5865391394chan isnt making money tho, its just a big fed honeypot
>>586540006I'm proud of you for looking at the other lanes and taking an executive decision that possibly drastically altered the course of the game :)
>>586540087it makes enough profitable or it wouldnt existhiro isnt a philanthropist
>>586540442maybe the projected value it could earn in the future is higher than the loss it generates?
>>586531952she is just bad shadow shaman. retard.
>>586541029in what fucking way is dp similiar to ss? she doesnt have a stun, a ward, yes ok the q is a bit similiar but other than that they share nothing in common
>>586540442The CIA is paying hiro all necessary expenses
mason and ppd are the only real niggas that ever were in the dota worldim sure the russians have some real YNs like larl but as a non russophone I can't form an opinion
>>586540087>what is ad revenue
>>586541278>what is the difference between revenue and profit
>>586540876i highly doubt any bank is lending to hiromoot struggled to simply get payment services from traditional creditors in the first place
>>586541368>xhe doesn't know
>>586540401anti-mage got farmed because of it and we won. He was behind on levels though, but he didn't complain.
>>586541268ppd is a faggot who didn’t manage to keep a single relationship with anyone involved in dota during his time in the scene and only streams dota to sub 100 viewers once every bluemoon. Someone who absolutely has nobody who bothers to keep in touch with him even after all he accomplished in the past cannot be called a real nigga
ppd always seemed unlikable idk if hes a bad guy tho... just kind of a chud or something
>>586542352maybe it was his will to not stay around in the scene and stream once in a while instead of suffering a long winded downfall like arteezy and mason?
>>586541158As a support she is pointless. Shadow shaman does all that and better, only a retard would play DP Support.Think about it. Crypt Swarm? Ether shock is the same. and still pushes the lane. Health funnel? just a bad harass too in the laning phase. Shackles is a better version of it.Silence? Hex is another disable that actually slows unlike and still prevents the enemy from casting spells or attacking. DP ult is meant to push and apply pressure, which is the same shit shaman wards do. Except they have much less lag than the spirits and you can actually control them on demand, unlike the spirits which sure, they switch targets depending on who you auto attack, but thye take forever to deal damage, its more of aura that gets reduced by armor and damage block.
>>586542725Shaman also has a free get out of jail card when losing a trade, giving you room to turn it around if done correctly. and his right click damage is insane. He also has a ton of health and is vastly over buffed because its slacks favorite hero.
>>586542598I really wish they could both break the chains of dota, you can tell they both have no real interest in it anymore... they look so miserable when they play its sad
>>586542598>suffering a long winded downfall like arteezy and mason?how are these two even remotely similar to you? Arteezy still plays at high immortal to 5 digit viewers and hangs around people in the dota scene just as he has always done. Mason by comparison is a shitter with not even a third of the success that arteezy has had during his whole career, a guy that everyone cheered when they saw that clip of his main account getting perma banned since nobody likes that guy outside of his twitch chat
>>586543482rare actual truth nuke.
>>586543482>nobody likes that guy outside of his twitch chatThat's not true, his chat doesn't like him either
>>586543482mason played in the grand final of ti
>>586543482>5 digit viewershe barely breaks 5k these days be for real>hangs around people in the dota scene just as he has always donewhy does this matter so much to you you parasocial thirdie? arteezy looks terribly unhappy and miserable when he plays he complains just as much as mason
Mason kinda became a joke as years passed but watching esports around his time in EG he was actually really good at the time I really don't get why his career never properly took off I mean 3rd place at TI, winning The Summit, 2nd place at ESL Frankfurt he could've gotten a spot in any other western team his problem has always been his attitude
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=026eBNu3_z4
>>586544258> why does this matteruse your head for once and think about it really hardforget about him for a sec. When you look at an individual that has had a presence in a certain medium or industry what do you think are the factors that people look at in order to decide whether they have had a “downfall” or not?
>>586545258>he could've gotten a spot in any other western teamwas he really willing to relocate to eastern eu during his prime?i get he went to sa but that was once he was a meme and they over promised him
would you really want Mason as a teamate... just saying.
>>586545885Why did he get banned? That was his main, no? He had like 17,000 matches.
>>586546440He paid someone to play on his account, and boosted trash should get banned.
Mason got banned because the behavior score system is bullshit and he tried finding a way around it.
>>586545885lmao they delivered the ban with coal in a frostivus gift?
>>586546440mason is a little butch with anger issues, and since he’s a little bitch his behavior score was constantly dropping. Every time his behavior score was dangerously low he would stop playing and pay for a boosting service in which someone takes your account and spam non-ranked games for hours until you get some behavior score back. He got banned aince valve treats it the same way as paying for mmr services
>>586546985Yeah, that was kinda based of Valve even though the motivation behind the ban is reddit soiface shit
>featured and made fun of by asmongoldhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLl0CNSoFIAMan this is actually the worst thing.
>>586547309grown ass balding ass fat ass videogame playing ass man saying all that btw
>>586547446he hasnt changed at all, still acts the same as he did in 2014.. dude is 35 now and still acts like a teenager playing call of duty
THE mason general
the thread bully is literally a cave goblin shitting on his betters on 4chan.org/vg/d2g because he got laughed out of mason chat
masao tatted all over her body drowarmpit
Augar got banned by mason too. I don't know whose side anyone is on anymore.
>>586549487>>586549430>>586549532>>586549538>>586549538all of these posts are augar btw :)
>>586406072Which gives drow more damage first, Butterfly or Daedelus?
mason got mad at his 4 alch for failing to farm a single aghs in 26 minutes a few games ago so now he's laying down the law and just farmed a 14 minute aghs i wonder who he'll give it to
>>586549892I watched that game. He was crashing out so hard, he almost played Deadlock.
>>586546763mason 100% deserved his score with his behavior and had he admitted his mistake and approached rehabilitation honestly then he would have never been banned
Augar is based and I hope he continues posting his games :)
>>586549249Its admirable to ignore social norms and peer pressure and act however you feel like
>>586549842Manta.
>>586551304t. augar
>>586551368>act however you feel likeexcept he doesnt do thatthe man its trapped by dota2 streaming, he earns so much more doing that than traditional work would offer and if he streams any other game viewership falls offwhat you are calling freedom, i would consider a prison
>>586551847Not me, senpai.
>>586552102you would take the time to html edit the board like a freak
anyone wanna vc and surf?
>>586552194I m diagnozing you with ADSAugar Derangement Syndrome
its been long enough, bring back octarine illusion meta
>>586552480stop replying to me augar
hell yea mason naix
Is Mason gonna lose this
>>586554235his offlane huskar is feeding his brains out and ragechatting @ 4 minutes so probably not
>>586554328wcyd (what can you do) can you do
There needs to be a vampire hero.
>>586555825nightstalker
>>586555825mina ha
>>586555825drfiter ;)
>>586555825niggastalker
masonbros we are rising above the feeders
mason has a riki who is not casting his spells and mason called him a bot
>>586555825Dampeer
mason said he's bored bye bye and then turned off stream
mason died and ragequit his stream
>>586542725shes a very stronger laner and she allows you to play with pace with for a certain amount of time before shes just kinda ends up being a creep and i rather have that on a support then core/p3 the margin for error is higher there
>>586557961>shes a very stronger lanerno stuns or slows, relies entirely on a high mana cost spell to deal damagepray she matches up against a double melee lane or its ogre
>>586558226so just draft someone that has a stun so we are going to just forget everything else she brings to the table because she lacks a stun and a slow
>>586558381>we are going to just forget everything else she brings to the table because she lacks a stun and a slowyes, the support pick shouldnt need compensation in the draft
PSG
so whenever my carry picks drow my team seems to lose, is there something i can do about that?
>>586559136add drow to your ban list
HOLY SHIT ITS OUT https://www.dota2.com/patches/8.00
>>586560331wow its real, on a monday night?!?! these changes are insane! Can't wait to try the new hero too.
>>586560320already a step ahead mate
>>586560516well done, now if you lose with her in the game you can blame bad luck
my useless beaner core keeps getting doomed.nice BKB bro.
someone actually pretending to be swindlemelonzz in my game
>mid diff>offlane diff>hc diffHell, even support diff. I hate losing games like this.
>>586561586i dont believe younobody would pretend to be swindle
>>586558795have plenty of stun cores that are meta right now having no stun isnt the issue when she wins you lane and has great team fight presence when she is not forced into the core role plus with all that allows you to play with tempo
whats the point in living past 40 if ur just a dotacel? the thought of booting up this game when ur reflexes start slowing down and you become 100% set in your ways and can't adapt terrifies me.
new patch notes. rogue changes.https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-november-2/2360696/9
>>586566294whoops wrong thread :)
well, i won my lane. I'm just gonna blame everyone else.
>>586406072Unironic question, how can I get rid of Russians when I play this game? I've had it with them. They are so fucking stupid it's unreal.
>>586566294we are so back paladinchads
>>586566294Wow is boring go play ffxiv if you need a mmo to play
if you cant lead the game with early upper hand then it will always be your fault
>>586567750im not trans, sis
Was just looking through my old dota 2 screenshots and man its kinda sad. Used to play with dozens of people and had one friend group where we'd play every evening from 2014-2015... everyone slowly moved on its depressing... there was one last hurrah during covid where people played a bit, but everyone fell off the face of the earth and moved on with life like I said. I wish I could go back.
>>586568945Hit the gym
>>586568945you can never go backmove along with your life
>>5865692923x a week, getting there. boring tho>>586569352yeah its true, going down memory lane once in a while is nice tho...
the ultimate draft and nobody switched lane, bounty hunter had 2 moon shards, butterfly, satanic, bf and deso in the end
lost another game because my carry was a dumb beaner that doesn't speak english.
PLEASE TELL ME HOW DO YOU GET RID OF THOSE BRAIDEAD RUSSIANS I AM SO TIRED OF HOW STUPID THESE ANIMALS ARE!
I'd rather have Russians than spics any day.
an average white isnt any better on US queueits all about chinks/seamonkeys on my team or gg
>>586571634chinks are 99% spiteful faggots tho
Do you think dota will be around in 50 years? I wonder if there will be senior citizen lobbies kek
>>586573142my father is 62 and still plays wc3 and aoe2(he just started playing that tho)
>>586573142Focus on if this society will be here in 5
>>586573307seconds, minutes, hours? WHAT IS GONNA HAPPEN TIME TRAVELER?
>>586573260thats pretty cool, good for him. feels like rts games will be good to play at that age.. idk if id want to do pvp honestly when im that age.
>>586572412if you dont piss them off then they will deliver 9 out of 10 cases. cant say the same about braindead beaners
>>586573307who knows... AI is valued more than human life right now and we will prob get the terminator ending when it takes over. I wonder if people will run AI dota steam accounts where it climbs mmr for you.
>bloodseeker support>muerta hard supportNICE FORCED LOSS
Veno without septic shock feels and plays like total ass.
>>586552004What's this guys problem anyway? I remember watching him stream in what? 2019? He wasn't that much of a retard he was playing and talking normally pretty much
Any guides I should read up on to learn this game.
>>586577168idk purge/bsj i guess
>>586577168there are ingame guides for the build/items orders that are good, especially tortelinis are good for beginners. besides quin made some video guides, havent watched them tho. otherwise you surely have a friend who can teach you right anon?
Bruh, you just play the game and learn as you go. That's how everyone should learn it.
>it's another brood feeds a gorillion spiders to sven episodeit's a good thing i was the sven this time
Are you supposed to bait your teammates as Sven? I did it my last game and it was really great. I always thought Sven should frontline, but that's sucks because I can get chain stunned or my blink disabled.
>>586578383you're supposed to roleplay as riki and go balls out when you actually kill someone
Sven's gotta be the only one in the game right now that can two shot supports.
>completely rape mid go like 15/0 at min 13/>get kills>gank, kill the enemy carry, push towers, build proper items.>check scoreboard>entire team is negative KDA and constantly lose 3v1 because of their lack of skill and shit picks they dont know how to even play. and I lostbecause my team is unironically filled with drooling fucking retards. This game is dogshit, nobody should bother with this stupid fucking waste of time.The matchmaking is clearly rigged because no way in hell these fucking wasted of oxygen can be deemed the same skill level as me, when they cannot even win their shit lane with braindead picks like witch doctor.
>>586579041This, too, will pass.
I lost all my games today.
>>586579041Post the game and we'll see what really happened
>>586583614feels bad man
>finally this dogshit scene is dyingDeserved.
I'm reinstalling Dota 2 after 7 years.
>>586587453dumbass!
can we nerf witchdoctor nowor heyget a patch....
The PVP games scene is so dire right now I'm starting to consider trying Fortnite
>6 hours down the drain>4w 4lplease stop matching me with literal mouth breathers gayben
Notice how this faggot keeps crying but he'll never post his games knowing full well that he is the problem
>>586588692fork knife is a game for passing the time not for sweating
sheepy make new dota video you stupid fucking faggot
What should I do in the rare case that willow is banned and I'm pos 4? No other hero feels so fun and so good to play in this role.
>>586593046i play these 3 exclusively on 4/5techiesnyxphoenix
>>586593401I actually thought of Nyx but the learning curve is intimidating. He has a unique playstyle that I don't even begin to understand. Same with Pheonix actually.
>>586593578Phoenix is easy you just have to put your cursor where you want things to go and then they go there 2 seconds later
>be me>be unc>void on enemy team>I build an mkb>team asks whyWhoopsie
>>586593578both nyx and phoenix are very rewarding to learn. do your homework
>wake up>no patch
any pro offlaner wanna give me some advice? what should I do in these situation?>their pos 1 last pick and counter me hard>my pos 4 leave lane before laning phase is over>my team dont want to come help taking t1 tower when we have a chance>i cant invade their jungle to steal farm and my pos 1/2 already take majority of our jungleI feel like I can only stick around with my team since they want to fight on the other half of the map but it doesnt feel right. Do I cut waves even if I have no wave clear ability?
>>586598079>>their pos 1 last pick and counter me hard>>my pos 4 leave lane before laning phase is overJungle and drag wave
>>586598079Farm your lane's side camps and triangle, even if you have to go back to thr fountain afterwardsFarm the camps close to the gate, if the enemy pos 1 has a good lane he often ignores theseIf the mid has been abandoned go farm midSame with safelane, if your pos 1 is clearing the jungle that early then he might have left the laneIf everyone is jungling because you lost all 3 lanes gg go next
>>586589215you are the only constant
>>586598237>>586598525I did farm side camps but triangle was hard for me to take in early game. Also what should be the game plan/item build for mid game since I cant catch up with their carry farm at that point. Should I be prepared to take fight if the enemies decide to keep brawling? Or should I dodge fight as much as I can?
>>586599114Depends on your hero. But if the game is going to shit and the enemy is roaming your jungle then go take their jungle, cut creepwaves and throw a few hits at towers. Anything to make the enemy abandon your teams jungle (and let your cores farm in peace). If you force 3 TPs and die, so be it, at least the deathball broke up and your team gets a chance to breatheIf they ignore you start aggressively pushing towers and farming. I have ended up more fed on Offlaners than the Pos 1 due to freefarming the enemy jungle while they are chasing kills on my team's side of the map
>>586595029one day i'll pull off a sick phoenix save too...but today's not that day...
>>586599114Get ult and look for teamfights
>>586589215That's an easy (+36x4)+(-25+4) = 44 MMR for you dawg
damn mason hate watchers were going hard as fuck yesterday mustve been the peruvian hours
>>586595029The phoenix aghs is even more grief than the wyvern heal if i see a phoenix on my team buy aghs I disable help immediatly
masao tatted all on her body
>>586605410>The phoenix aghs is even more grief than the wyvern healYou don't like free salves?
>>586605806it's the timing that gets fucked up I'd rather die than get the freeze during my bkb or satanic it's happened too many times
>>586605806salves dont force you to sit still without access to abilities or items while a hit counter is screaming kill two for the price of one!
>>586606067I mean, salve dispels if you get hit. You kinda do need to sit still for 13 seconds, or at least stay away from enemies
>>586606502>You kinda do need to sit still for 13 seconds, or at least stay away from enemiesbeing able to farm or simply reposition yourself on the map is not the same as sitting still lil cope
>>586606710And 4 seconds isn't the same as 13 seconds. Idk man I feel like you're being things way out of proportion. If you get picked off because you were running around at half HP you'll lose way more time
>>586607336>And 4 seconds isn't the same as 13 secondsyou are the one makes this dumb comparison to salve which holds no water
Why do fags always pick rubick
>>586607545ass worms direct fags into picking rubick
lolwut? there's a dota marketing team?>all women
>>586406072>on a 13 game loss streak>genuinely considering paying for a coachIt's so over for me I can't even break into Ancient
>>586609549its all the same womanreeks of bots
>>586609549>women>>586609891>woman
>Game going to absolute shit>Literally single-handedly holding the base by winning teamfights 1v5>Server crashes before we can loseSometimes you're alright GabeShame I won't get to see my final hero damage
>>586614610>get assraped on mid>enemy mid disconnects, server's fault, game will not be recordedit truly does be like that sometimes
Can someone tell me what's the Luna build now, I keep eating shit from enemy Luna players, I lost to fucking radiance Luna
>>586609549Are you fucking retarded?
>>586614610>>586615147interesting because Deadlock servers are shitting the bed too.maybe some pissed of russki used AI to hack Valve.
>>586615450he's clearly ESL.
>>586615687its tuesdayneets really are oblivious
>>586615873it's 8AM, and crashes were occuring ~30 minutes ago. Valve hasn't started working yet.
>>586616060someone get up early
is it safe to queue?
>>586615292manta blink bkb shiva satanic
>>586617582safety is a relative thing
>climb from herald V to to archon 2 in under about a month playing a couple games after work>players aren't really any better>carries still weak minded bitches that would forfeit after their first death if they could>13 game lich win streakIs lich op, or is there really just no difference between 500 and 2200 mmr?
>>586622993people under ancient are all the same.then there's a step up at high divine.then there's another degradation at immortal.
>>586622993Lich is a strong laner and has an OP ult against shitters so it can carry you all the way to the top if you spam it. It's just one of those heroes that always has impact
>>586623813Seems that way. Why i almost always end up going aeon disc late game. The difference between getting instantly deleted by a carry and being about to drop ulti, spire, and sinister gaze is worth it.
I tried Luna and she's kind of busted
my isp is so shit i can't play dota...
>>586624557if you want to switch up there's also crystal maiden and wyvern who are very strong. ice support heroes are all incredibly strong for some odd reason
>>586627067because they fuck up your movement while also nuking.just fucking up movement, like veno, isn't enough.
>>586622993https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H__MQ7nCjlEpretty much sum up what happens between each bracket
why doesn't huskar have mana
>>586631663because you touch yourself at night
>>586631663League of Legends.That's why.
There needs to be a 15 minute period where you CAN"T queue after the last game you played and you have to write a short essay about what went right or wrong in the game. It would have to be 1-2 paragraphs minimum. So many people just immediately smash the find match button the second their game ends and they never reflect or learn about dota, and thus never improve. This might actually get their brains to work for the first time in their lives as well, which would improve the world also.There, game fixed.
>>586632460i unironically didn't notice this image is ai until i looked at the items
>>586632460>>586632596i thought that was LoL screenshot until I looked at the background
>>586632596yeah its getting really good
>>586632460kill yourself
>>586633352You will spend those 15 minutes reflecting on things like hero composition, team fights, itemization, etc. What could you have done better or worse? :)
>>586632460>DEFEAT>DIRE VICTORY
>>586633681that's how it works when you're on radiant
>>586609549>this is the brainpower of your teammate.
>>586632460>MY TEAMMATES ARE RETARDED FUCKING NIGGERS FIX YOUR FUCKING GAME YOU FAT FUCKING KIKE>CTRL-C>CTRL-V >every game
>>586633681its rare but it happens
Suggestions for Offlaners who can quickly jungle without items to recover from a bad lane?I'm kinda starting to consider Sven/Luna
>>586635501damn you're retarded. stop playing pos3, farm your tokens on pos5.
>>586635734If I get a shit pos 4 I simply clock out. Pudge? GG WP. Midas rush ogre? Bye bye. Some useless melee shit like SB or clockwerk or nyx, who doesn't even try to control the camps? Fuck that. I'm not going to try to play my role 1v2
>>586636241>if I feel like I'm being griefed then I'm going to grief even harderyour skin is the color of shit.
>>586635501Axe Centaur Dark Seer Dawn
>>586636538>feel likeit's reality
>>586636538Yes. Do you think I'm a cuck who will cope and accommodate my support doing fucking nothing? No. I'm going to ignore everyone and farm the enemy jungle until I either outcarry the other clowns or lose. And if the pos 4 is feeding or intentionally stealing last hits I'll go jungling at fucking lvl 3 and leave him alone to do whatever the fuck he wants.>>586636842Thanks, all good ideas
>>586633505I'm not a chain queuing moron
>>586626706Luna is basically sven in that once you get the farming patterns down, the hero is pretty straightforward.
>>586635501All 4 >>586636842 mentioned, there's also an agrument for enigma but im not sure how the lvl eidolons are these days if you're jungling at 3.
I wonder what valve does with all of the chat data from games....
>>586638847I like to think gaben just reads it like an old fart used to read the comic section of a newspaper.
>>586638828I've actually considered Enigma, my concern with him is that he doesn't really scale. You jump in, press R, and pray that your team can kill everyone before it ends. You don't really have any room to impact the teamfight beyond thatI've never played Dawnbreaker, what's her gameplay like?
>>586638847train with AI for their next game
magnus players are either 1v9 god gamers or a dude with like 2 seconds reaction time
>>586632460do AI sloppers have souls?
>>586639626no but they have tokens
>>586639031I'm sure they have the ability to use AI to do whatever they want with all of the data... I'd say for it to give me the biggest meltdowns and biggest shittalk fights from yesterday while having my morning coffee and checking emails.
its... its over
>>586640374is deadlock actually remotely fun in any capacity, every time i see gameplay of it it looks like a roblox game crossed with that fingerless glove meter meme
>>586640494no
Wish I could work at valve but it seems impossible to get a role there unless you actually offer something special... they have like 300 employees and rake it in.,..Total staff as of 2021: 336 peopleAdministration: 35 people making an average of 4.5 million a yearGame Developers: 181 people making an average of 1 million a yearSteam Developers: 79 people making an average of 960k a yearHardware Developers: 41 people making average of 430k a yearUnreal
>>586640494zoomers LOVE deadlock, maybe that's why valve abandon dota
>>586640605Unreal is from Epic tho
>>586640709>abandon
>>586641095we've got a comedian over here!
did deadlock win
>>586640605you need to be the top 00.1% talent to work there
>>586641870bigly even
meanwhile blizzard....
>>586642025yeah pretty much, its prob one of the best companies in the entire world you could work for.
>>586642025Varoufakis worked at Valve as TF2 hat economy analyst. Then he left to become prime minister of economics in Greece and fuck everything up (even further)
>>586643294what about the mastermind behind Artifact
>>586640494>fingerless glove meter memewhat does that mean?
>>586643294that guy looks like a comic book villan wow... handsome tho nohomo
>>586640494it's the most fun I've had gaming since the late 1990s, early 2000s.sorry, all I have is old footage.
>>586643708wow this looks incredibly gay
valve has been paying streamers like summit, burntpeanut, and others to play deadlock recently... singsing as well. looks like its working, my normie friends started playing it yesterday... wish valve would try to get streamers to play dota but they would quit after 1 game because it takes hundreds and hundreds of hours to even get the basic hang of it.
>>586643708maybe I'm too much of a boomer shooter kind of guy but I can't understand anything of what happens on screen
>>586643708i could maybe give it a shot if it was a first person shooterlet's be real third person multiplayer only exists to sell skins
>>586641870there are no winners or losers here
>just barely losing prolonged 1v2/3 engagements>team is afk in the jungle the entire time>somehow manage to convince them to actually play the game>start winning effortlessly the second i get even a single modicum of helpwow what a fucking concept
>>586643981that's literally every moba.and it's why valorant is not as popular as cs.
>>586643932>valve has been paying streamers>[citation needed]
>>586643872>sees a robot>immediately thinks of gay sexrent free.
>>586645036troonlocker is big mad
>>586644535honestly we should just remove jungle at this point, it actively prevents our subhuman teammates from playing dota
>>586639117Bkb piercing aoe stun is always relevant when it comes to enigma. Your sole existence means they can't high ground safely without fear if getting bootyblasted by black hole, add the fixed dmg of pulse+aghs.>>586639117>I've never played Dawnbreaker, what's her gameplay like1-3-1-1, phase soul ring echo shard(maybe a bracer depending on matchup), she's pretty similar to underlord in the sense you want to farm while looking for fights on the map to jump to via ult, but instead of dropping circles you throw hammer and spin. After that itemization usually depends on game but harpoon, bkb and ac are usually safe bets.
>>586643708If you play this slop im just going to assume you have low T
>>586643932>wish valve would try to get streamers to play dotawhy would valve pay to have someone play not only an established game but one who is in long term development
>>586645684I really want to try enigma but the thought of fucking up ulti scares meI look at how high rank player plays https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2rPOFOqEOQ and seems like they dont care about getting perfect 5 man BH that much
Reminder to wish GabeN a happy b-day!
>>586645684>enemy buys back>they win next fight 4v5 while bhole is on CDI don't doubt that Enigma is a great hero, I doubt that Enigma is a great hero to carry shitty teammates with
>>586646624>trench players keeping gold for buybackThat ain't happening
>>586646017I wouldn't worry, it's honestly a rite of passage with enigma much like tidehunter you will hit an ult on nothing but shit happens. >seems like they dont care about getting perfect 5 man BH that muchMost cases you don't need to, while the big 5 man ones are sick, alot of times black hole on 2 heroes to kill or lockdown is completly acceptable. I will say one downside to him being a 3 now is it's much harder to do the purple combo with dank seer which saddens me as a dark seer player.>countdown my enigma as i blink vaccuum on high ground>5 man black hole into wipe>"holy shit, I love you"
The "Call of Magic" remixes still get me moving and inspired. After all these years!Maybe it's time to return to the roots. To game like I never even encountered Dota
>>586646624People forget buyback in higher ranks, let alone lower ranks, also you buy refresher late.
>>586647023>>586648018meanwhile i tend to save for BB too much that i have no item progression for 10 minutes after 30+ mins mark, not sure if its the right choice but i do feel losing impact during fight
>>586648524i'm kind of the same sometimes, i guess that choosing to save for buyback is a skill of itselfyou have to think about what you risk losing by dying, a tower, a set of racks, megas or the game itselfthere enemy lineups where they can easily push buildings, lineups that cannot, teammates that can defend well, teammates that cannot
>>586649038if the enemy has no long cd ult like bh or doom then bb gold is better spent on your first life
>>586648524in slow games I make a point to only spend unreliable gold.slow games stopped happening once I reached immortal though.
>>586648524I mean, in most cases a buyback is worth more than getting a 4th+ item unless that item is a BKB or something vital like that. Hell I've won games by buybacking as early as min 15 to make sure we win a crucial fight that turns the tables and gives us the lead
>>586640494I dig it personally it's like TF2 but with Moba elements. And I like the movement too that's one thing I could never get into CS for is the static gameplay based on position holding I like the more dynamic shooters. It's a nice game to play casually, but it definitely doesn't scratch the tryhard itch dota gave me throughout the years. My only criticism would be that there's too many numbers on screens and shit to keep track of with regards to the UI but I'm sure Valve will figure it out
Why do these monkeys talk so much
>>586653873https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/9074014377https://steamcommunity.com/id/patsch_patsch/
I wonder if GabeN has a crew of bodyguards. Prob does and easily spends a few mil on security a year. I wonder if they chill and play dota with him on his yacht.
>>586654281Great job Sherlock
>>586654634>I wonder if GabeN has a crew of bodyguards.he lives in nz to avoid such a thing, he may have a chief of security but i doubt he keeps a crew around at all time
>>586654281For everyone wondering: this is the thread bully. He will obsessively stalk your games and find your profile if you ever post info here.
>>586653873I just enabled chat restrictions in the settings months ago and have been chilling since>but if you don't communicate with your team you're more likely to lose I care more about enjoying the game than winning the game. I'm not interested in anyone's tantrums, boasts or blameshifting. I also manually mute anyone who pings my death timer, hero or items/abilities
>>586657856>but if you don't communicate with your team you're more likely to losewho fed you this line of bullshit?
>>586658008Raging cunts who don't want to be muted
>>586656834He also reports people for calling him out, which is real funny.
>>586656834>>586658538that isnt the thread bully
>>>586235403anon predicted the future, my fucking carry picked bounty hunter when i pick my main support
>top kills>top damage>top building damage>top assists>but i made one imaginary mistake one time>"OMG REPORT NOOB JAJA PENDEJO">quality of subsequent matches goes down because the thirdie hive mind bitched the loudestdogshit system
>>586659036Yeah that certainly happened and isn't grossly exaggerated
>>586659036yea i'm sure that's exactly how it all unfolded inside your own head, yup
>>586659316you must be the luckiest motherfucker in the world to have never been griefed for no reason before
>>586659036>play well all game>dive fountain and feed and throw game and lose>WTF WHY AM I BEING REPORTED I PLAYED SO WELL BEFORE THAT
>>586659427This would have nothing to do with the context of the first post
>>586659608kek, coretrannies really do be like that
>>586659608>"bro you stole my (the supports) farm 17 minutes ago therefore its ok for me to stone form kick you into the rest of the team and then ping your respawn"
>>586660087>reported for griefing>disables helpgit gud.
>>586646017I like playing enigma 4 specifically because there's less pressure to hit any holes at all, you can chill around the edges of the fight smoked waiting for the enemy to clump too much and counter initiate. It's just not that good right now I think because the meta seems pretty pickoff oriented and not team fight or initiation oriented.
I am so tired to play with bots, this game is fucking dead.I hope developers die of terrible cancer, and they will.
The distinction between legend players on the warpath to immortal (or at least ancient) and passive shitters who just ran out of free mmr is like night and day. Woe if you get the latter on your team instead of the former.
i find myself doing game losing decisions to avoid being reported anyone else
>>586666551wut
>>586666139Most just play ranked now because it's the only portion of the game that isn't majority bots.
>>586666551that is called improvement and if you continue to make less game losing decisions than your counterpart on the enemy team, then you will find success
>>586667313Sorry let me try again.I find myself making game losing decisions, because not making them makes my team angry and ping me and report me and go afk.
>>586669261who is botting turbo?
>>586669448so you play like shit and don't carry the game and your team is mad at you for not participating in the game?
>>586669617Sorry let me try again.My team doesn't get angry at me for making game losing decisions, in fact much the opposite, they get mad at me for not making game losing decisions. Hope this helped
>>586669732can you use an example in a sentence?
>>586670084He means his team pressures him into making bad decisions that lose the game and he is compelled to go along with them because otherwise they will report them because they are bad and he is good
Who do I play if I want to full mute both teams so I can farm and rat until I win?
>>586670491sounds like he's bad if he's losing the game though.
>>586670552you need to fire up dota allstars and pick any of the traditional cores, like am or void.
>>586670552lycan
STOP FIGHTING BOUNTY RUNES
>>586670552dark willownatures prohpet
>>586671351no, i must feed its my duty
>>586671351>>586671434Had a game today with a 5v5 before the horn, and 4 and 3 kills to boot.
>>586670764I don't wanna play Dota Allstars.I'm trying to grind turbo to get my behavior score back up because our ISP decided that I was gonna abandon a bunch of games.
>>586672234ok well ratting died when they gave tp scrolls a dedicated slot instead of requiring inventory space, and carrytrannies can't just pop out of the jungle 6 slotted in 40 minutes and win the game by default anymore.
>>586669538Never touched turbo in my life and never will, so have no clue what goes on there.
They ruined the map.
>>586673557luckily they fixed it in 2025
>>586673557both of those maps are outdated.
>>586673557i fucking hate those crystal tumors
>>586673557The trees!
I know you guys are familiar with the classic>[hero] when in enemy team vs [hero] when in my teambut what are some heroes that are consistently the same regardless of where they are
I'll sometimes activate TP and then immediately cancel it, so I have an excuse not to go to teamfights>TOWN PORTAL SCROLL IS ON COOLDOWN (55 SECONDS)
>>586674615most supports, and once you get to high ranks, invoker mids.
play techies do the jump combo sometimes i forget the stasis but enemy fucking hit all 3 mines in my triangle wtf ?
To say forced 50 isn't a feature is false. After 5 days of not playing I went back to check my last team's profiles, I'm at 10k behavior and 54% winrate:Pos1: deranked from Legend IV to Archon II in 5 days.Pos2: 42% winrate and 8 losses in a row.Pos3: His last ranked game was a deadalus Sand King(4 ranked losses in a row btw), after which all his games are single draft losses, so he is a chronic griefer and euthanizer.Pos4: 44% winrate and 5 losses in a row.And people still say "just play better there's no forced 50" , the data is public, it's not a conspiracy or an only constant delusion. 4 arkham asylym supervillains as a 10k behavior 54% winrate player. System is 100% rigged.
>>586676438Post the game so we can verify for ourselves, obviously someone who looks for a reason that he lost the game this hard is of sound mind himself
>>586675116My Tusk: glorified creep who can't even wardEnemy Tusk: tactical genius who singlehandedly sets up fights and saves his coresMy Silencer: griefs the lane and ends with a 20% kill participationEnemy silencer: bane of every fight, forces early bkbs and dispels
yea i'm sure it's your team mates' fault that you are a hard stuck shitter playing in archon/legend for years and not because of your own inability to improve
>>586676826i'm not hardstuck in either of those ranks haha :D
>>586676438you are the only constant between them
>>586676438u r n00b.
>>586673212Can't I play Nature's Prophet at least?
>>586677161sure, you can play anything that's available in the pool.
>>586677443Listen here you little shit.
>>586676826i always end the game with 10+ kills for a support and my mouth breathers will always get ganked alone around 40' into ggi will never be the problem and all i need is an above 60 iq team each game to win dota 2
>>586677724doubt
>>586677724>guys i got 10 kills as a support that means I obviously didn't make a single mistake during this whole game and i'm the pinacle of what a support player is.do you hear yourself?
>>586677858it is the case if you queue 4/5 at those rankst. forced to smurf immortal
>>586676438lol the matchmaking sure isn't fair at all but /d2g/ refuse to admit that
>>586680174yeah, its unfair to expect a player to perform better than someone else
Forced 50 is the biggest cope in the world. Back when I tryharded in 2014-2015 I climbed from 2.3k all the way to around 5kmmr. This is when 5k was pretty much getting to the top, with some pros around 6k. Here's how you do it. Go mid, win your lane, and snowball out of control. You can also pick carry and outfarm your opponents which is easy as hell now with the big map. If you can't consistantly climb with a win rate at around lets say 53% or even 51% then you need to take a hard look at yourself and see how you can improve. You can literally just ask an AI nowaday,s you don't even have to work that hard.
wonder who will pick up gpk if he decides to comeback he is still the best mid player in the world but he seems to really like valorant
mirana at the beach in a bikini imagine
>>586684262the guy may be a great laner but he has the mental fortitude of a limp noodle
>>586685590shanthoodbae on the other hand
anyone got a wow forever friend code
>>586686456huh? it's included in the sub, also go back.>>>/vg/wowfg
>>586406072SPIDER MOMMY
>>586688139so no?
>>586686456sorry I am not a negro
carry is actually the hardest role its insane t. switched to off
>>586690505it's the role I most consistently win with. pubs usually grief on that role.it used to be mid, just taking over a game as storm qop invoker, but I'm way too washed for that now.
You don't know the supreme joy of Australian shitter DOTA on a weekday
how is there an undertale general? When's the last time that game got an update?I swear there are things that have generals that shouldn't, and things that don't have generals that should.
radiant side won today
>>586693875Gacha should not be allowed on /vg/
>>586695643direbros oh no no
>>5866956431st game of the day, can confirm that radiant won bigly
take control of your own life before somebody less qualified does
my significantly lower ranked duo mate is too heavy, should i kick him and buy better ones?
>jug buys back and omnis the solo pugnaSometimes the plays are so bad they actually ascend normal gameplay and become a high form of physical comedy. Tipped and commended.
my whole team was communicating on mic except me, with my 5k comms score. lmaoi'm just the silent support
>>586697075my duo doesn't play with me anymore and has a gf and doesn't play any games really cherish what you have
>>586697387i am lucky all my dota friends are gay
>>586697306blyattt
>>586697306is the runaans item good or nah bros
anyone wants to party or play something
ill join if you can assemble a stack of 4 on US
>>586695643Just won as radiant again too holy shit its true
>>586697306damn augar already dropped back to legend 1
>>586699785It's easy when every game all i get is bot retards on my team.
>>586700656its kinda insane how these monkeys even reached legend in the first placebut then I saw even divine player plays like headless chicken so maybe it's just dota in generalhttps://youtu.be/3Qm3qocg-8Y?t=1805
like i get it, DP was a smurf with only 200 games played, she dunked on Luna. BUT, Luna was also a smurf, but she was absolute fucking dogshit. So, I lost because I got put on the team with the shitty smurf.Also my mid Arc was a fucking beaner so I really had zero chance of winning this game.
got trilaned and my 4 just kinda stood still and watched them kill me
>>586700978he probably thought you deserve it
>>586701058He did deserve it, who picks centaur offlane in this day and age
>>586700978literally me when my retarded 3 refuses to go jungle immediately
>>586701774yea let me level 1 dk jungle
playing vs the exact same draft twice in a row maybe it will go better this time
>>586702337not if you make the exact same decision like last match
>>586702337it wontunless you disrupt the natural flow of it
Reddit is gonna be insufferable after this election. Even the forsen sub has democrap posting now.gonna hide out here.
>>586705130The whole internet has been insufferable since 2016 or earlierBut also go back
>>586705286You don't like laughing at other people's suffering? Women post their sob stories there and you can just reply "aww boo hoo bitch" lmao
>>586705130you lost tranny
>>586695643another 2 back to back games on radiantall stompedgaben is handing out free wins on the good sidego queue now
>>586702474>>586702775i wonalso i got rage mail from the first game haha i keep my steam profile public and its always butthurt comments and they never have their comments open so you know they are just big seethers
>>586705130the one space i dont wanna see that shit and you have to bring it here, i hope you kill yourself
>>586705130lol people still falling for the illusion of choice
>>586705130>>586705421you won, tranny
AA kinda just auto wins you team fights over all the other supports in this meta
>>586433771I always thought Earthshaker was supposed to be like a koala or something
>>586706651don't listen to idiots, Shaker is pretty much a gorilla.
