[ CAUTION ] [ ICING UP ] editionthread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-Bydob_ncUPrevious Mission: >>586336160>AC8 OUT NOWhttps://s.team/a/2288340https://youtu.be/F54vGYxj0ts>404th squadron ID70688023Please don't join if you don't plan to stick around>Online Progression Guidehttps://files.catbox.moe/g0cq7z.png>Aircraft & Part Database (SP Spoilers)https://ac8-database.pages.dev>Aces at War 2029https://pastebin.com/WMkgZKYM>AC7https://s.team/a/502500>Shootout Saturday is back! /aceg/ rooms are open every Sat at 1930 CET/1330 EST, with three rules:Put /aceg/ in your tag before game for IFF purposesNo EML/QAAM/SASMIn Roca Roja, use ONLY air-to-ground special weapons in the tunnel>Official /aceg/ AC7 MP guidehttps://rentry.org/acegMPguide>AC7 Resourceshttps://pastebin.com/Xbb41nvVhttps://rentry.org/ho8mm>AC6 is playable on PC via recomphttps://youtu.be/vr9m2XHpWYY>ACI is playable again!http://youtu.be/Q9wDRE7PszU>/aceg/ Emulation Guidehttps://rentry.org/ybyx6>AC3 Translation Patcheshttps://pastebin.com/ET0rSVc3>/aceg/ livery and emblem packhttps://rentry.org/3tokr>Encyclopedia Strangerealhttp://www.encycstra.net>New /aceg/ MEGAhttps://pastebin.com/aYYx2UKm>PA twitterhttps://x.com/PROJECT_ACES (JP)https://x.com/AceCombatGames (EN)>Kono's twitterhttps://x.com/kazutoki>Misc Stuffhttps://rentry.co/acegmisc>Project Wingmanhttps://s.team/a/895870>SPECIAL MESSAGE TO /aceg/ FROM PIXYhttps://www.cameo.com/v/qSL5bOosg>/aceg/ Permalinkhttp://orph.link/aceg>OP Templatehttps://pastebin.com/P0E8NwWCBECAUSE IT BEARS REPEATING:>Skill and guts are required here>Be a buddy, not a border>All planes are beautiful dreams>DELAY THE FINAL ATTACKFAQ>Has the Project Wingman update dropped yet?Haha...>Has a PS2 trilogy remake been announced yet?No.
Why is there a comically large bomb in the hangar?
Happy one month of AC8 to all of my fellow deluxelets.Now that the dust has settled, what do you think of it overall?While it's not my favorite AC, I do think that it's the best AC to date.I enjoyed the first-person storytelling perspective. It really helped to bond with the great cast of wingmen and supporting characters. Really loved Kate by the end, and DD had probably one of my favorite character arcs in the series.The missions were solid for a first playthrough, but I'm a bit worried that many of them feature lots of unskippable talking that would slow down subsequent runs (14, 27, 30 immediately come to mind). The canyon missions were unfortunately a bit weak, and I was disappointed there wasn't a long tunnel mission. Really surprised they didn't have any missions that featured prominent weather effects too given how hard they were pushed in 7.The three land battleships were cool, but I wish they had called them by name instead of simply one, two, and three - it really would have helped make them feel more threatening. The Ladons were really fun and unique; I don't think we've had a similar high-speed chase before. Unfortunately I didn't get to experience the "all-out mode" people have been talking about so I'll have to play it again and just focus one at a time.Celaeno was a fun twist on the Arsenal Bird formula, but it wasn't built up at all and I wish we had gotten a SOLG-like mission for the Spear, though that would obviously clash with events later in the story.The various Shadow squadrons had a surprising amount of characterization for how generic their planes looked. I wish they were more visually distinct. Shadow 22 I think could have been built up a little bit better if he had showed up somewhere before Comona and chased us off.Soundtrack was amazing as always, definitely stronger than 7's. Shadow 22 and Celaeno are some of my favorite tracks now.But all of those critiques are very minor. Overall5 > 8 > 4 = 0 > 7
>>586450975[STALLING][STALLING][PULL UP]<<No, Rex!>>
Would you buy it?
>Do what it takes to survive. Nothing more.
Thrust vectoring rules the skies
>>586452137maybe they should've done more
>>586452467in fiction*
cha ching
>>586452137>Be me>See termy fingy>Hear the old guy say <<Do what it takes to survive. Nothing more.>>>fuck.jpg>Pretend to have a technical problem with my plane>Return to baseIt's really that easy.
>>586452801why does your game look like aislop?
>>586452904Historically, you can get executed if you try to pull that kind of stunt btw.
>>586453034name 3 historical examples
>>586452118Lol why not just grind the extra five days for the general plans. XP doesn't really cap if you can fly well and once you buy all the planes and performance items, you've spent the majority of what you need to, barring some new drops.
>>586452118Absolutely fucking not and the instant this shit gets added is the instant everyone who isn't a subhuman should stop playing online.
>>586453212https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=Examples+of+people+executed+for+cowardice+during+war
>>586452118No I already don't know what to do with the tickets I do have. They need to add some more attractive planes first.
So why the fuck did they never use this again?
>>586453736>0 examples of pilots
>>586453884Listen nigger i'm not gonna go around youtube to try and find some obscure reportage from the late 90s where japanese pilots were talking about that kind of shit because someone on 4channel doesn't believe me.I cannot say it happened, but i vividly remember a japanese ex-pilot saying it wasn't a good look when you came back alive from a suicide mission. And they would eventually end up executed.
>>586451508I need at least one more playthrough of the campaign and trying every plane before I have a verdict. Might be better than 7 in my opinion so far though.
I don't like it and I don't want to see it in Ace Combat.
>>586453023Trying DLSS5
>>586452467>thrust vector rules th
>>586454991Looks like an F-15 and an F-35 had a baby.
>>586454991From a side view it looks like a twin seater F-22
>>586455558With anemic engines
Maid Kate!
I finally finished the assault records and S ranked everything on ace. Now I can actually enjoy this game. I almost launched my controller through a window trying to shoot down every swarm missile in the last mission. I will say the entire ace trigger suite in this game was 10x better than flying at a very specific altitude along the mass driver like in 7. I swear it was just luck to trigger that ace
>>586456896I started my ace collecting and just got the first three without reading what to do for them, will they continue being that intuitive?
>>586456217haha yeah if I don't find a Kate of my own I might MAID myself haha
Hosting a scramble now>>586456896You only need to kill 3 of those missiles iirc. It launches plenty before surfacing so you have room to miss some
>>586456896You only need to destroy 3. It's very easy.
>>586454310>spoilerReminds me of Minus One because that's the first ten minutes of the movie. Which is funny because Minus Zero starts playing this Thursday, I knew we were getting a new Goji movie but I didn't realize it was ready yet.
How come Oured never gets taken like the other Capitals of other Ace Combat protag countries?
>>586454991This but with anything made by those filthy bugmen
>>586458764Because Osea strong
>>586453884>>586454310pilots are a vastly-smaller group of people than the rest of the military, so anything that happens at a low rate in the military overall is going to be exceedingly rare among pilots to the point that you might not be able to find an example among thembut that doesn't mean that it wouldn't happen -- nor that pilots wouldn't expect it to happen to themplus, planes are tracked (to one degree or another, depending on when & who's doing it) by their military when on missions, so it's a lot harder to hide the fact that your plane is suddenly going off-course than it is for a random infantry man to just walk off into the forest in the middle of the night to desertplus, is a pilot does desert, given the range of planes, it seems a lot less likely that they would land it somewhere where they could be picked up again by the military that they deserted fromthis would preclude us from having examples of those pilots being shot for deserting -- even if their military *would* have shot them, if only they could've gotten their hands on the pilotfor>Pretend to have a technical problem with my plane>Return to base>It's really that easy.not to be a viable strategy, there don't actually have to be past examples of deserting pilots being shot -- pilots just have to *think* that they might / would be shot if they deserted / faked a problem / etc.
>>586453865It's soft implemented in the modern targeting system, target selection prioritizes things nebulously in the center of your screen. I'm doubtful it would work as well as anyone would want it to in 7 or 8. 6 and on have a fuckton of targets so to be useful they'd have to shrink the boresight circle or else you'd accidentally flag a random APC while you're trying to target a stealth plane or something, but the smaller they make it the harder it'll be for people to line up with what they actually want. Also imagine how frustrating misinputs would be if they can't find good time filters, going to pop flares and now you've locked onto some fucking Mig 10k away because you held R3 for too long.
>>586454991good god look at that dumb little F-16 noseif I didn't know better, I'd honestly think that that's photoshopped out of parts of other planes
>>586458764Oured was too far away from the Yukes and Belkans to make a proper assaultz Osea and oceans are fucking huge. Closest we get was Belkan double agents pulling terror attacks, and Torres trying to snipe Oured with a nuke.
>>586459264The proportions are just fucked across the board.
>>586458764It did almost get SOLG'd.
>>586459130>target selection prioritizes things nebulously in the center of your screen.This barely feels true in 8.>center of my "crosshair" directly on what I want to lock on to>need to cycle through four targets that are in screen but not what I'm fucking looking directly at
>get emergency sortie>just kidding it's maintenance timereeeeePost Kates
Topkek and his retards three are just not fun, and it's not even because of the damn flares. The final plane is genuinely harder to shoot down than the rest for some reason, even if it isn't Topkek. SASMs do make it easier but I'm still having trouble getting gun authority on them because they just don't stop turning. I'm just gonna get the Game and turn my console's online off so I can beat him pre-patch, just out of spite for how ass this boss fight is.
>>586461407
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>>586461938>found out this was AI slopughh...
>>586459126Consider that>It never happened in the past>Sotoa needs pilots>The mission you're deserting from wasn't officially approved by high command in the first place>Deputy general of the air force hasnt even promoted you to a position where you can take part in missionsIt's reasonable to think you wouldn't be executed for it. And the future reveals that:>The aircraft were indeed faulty>Tewy wanted you to turn backIt's very unlikely you'll be executed. At worst, you get a dishonorable discharge. Realisticallly, you get demoted from the Lux Lunae special operations air wing and can keep flying in the Ventus pastoral air wing.
>>586461907>this post right after mineYes I do, in fact, suck at this video game anon. I won't pretend otherwise but I'm not going to pretend I respect the Shadow 22 fight enough to really git gud at it.
>>586453212Japanese kamikaze pilots near the end of the war, famously
>>586454991manlook at those nape and scapulaeeven better than f-35's toned tomboy belly
>>586462384We need more Sotoa MEMRI.
>>586462756>Sotoa needs pilotsnot badly enough that they won't shoot down their own guys in the prologue, apparentlySotoa's ability to address their own needs is counterbalanced by their hyper-martial insanitythey're kinda SDF-pilled in that way
>>586463284
>>586462842>I learn my history from redditThere is no first hand account of a kamikaze pilot being executed upon return and the only second hand account mentions a pilot that got executed after returning 9 times.And that's only 1 dubious example. Not 3.
12 GB is fat that's not just tweaking some numbers and enemy AI abilities
>>586463470They're winning in the prologue, they're losing hard by the time you meet Gemma.
I hate that all mods from now on are going to be vibe coded garbage that have a non-zero chance of bricking your game.I was looking forward to AC0 mods.
>>586463727Blame unreal.
If you didn't snag 32GB while it was cheap, I don't know what to tell you.You've needed it since at least 2019, probably earlier.
>>586463631It was a built in expectation of the kamikaze program, so to speak, that sometimes the pilots would return alive. Sometimes they just would not have an opportunity to hit Allied ships or occasionally not see ANY ships. The idea they got regularly executed is just silly.
>>586463768Mobius willing, the AI companies will collapse and nobody will have the oomph to vibe code jack shit.
>>586464115Yeah, people cope with "local models" but local models are really fucking weak. LLMs can't do shit without database levels of compute...
>>586464170Local models are better, whatever their flaws, because you can control the actual AI. With corpo models, they can pull the rug out from under you on a whim and suddenly their 'new' model has completely destroyed any utility it previously had.Like what a lot of the vibecoders are experiencing now. AI's won't let them recreate existing games or programs. So if you were planning on your future career to be "Claude, vibe code me a video game to sell", tough shit. You're now back to square one.Not the case with a local model. It's weak, but it is free.
>giga patchWhat's in it?
>>586464421NothingPlease understand
>>586464421bupkis
>>586464421Topkek nerf.
Reminder the 6 recomp used Claude to untangle the fuckass code of that game. It's different when the code monkey using it has some idea of what he's doing. The shit he did for the recomp was even backported to Xenia to some extent and the 6 recomp itself runs flawlessly. Hell the OEL fan server guys are even starting to use a new Infinity recomp instead of the weird emulator setup they have to use now. I actually asked him about it in the >Discord server before and he thinks local models just can't compete when it comes to complex coding tasks. But I've also seen people say local models are good if they're hyperspecialized. So I dunno lol, I just don't see it as inherently bad in this specific case. The Ace Combat 3 remaster thing that Indian guy is doing is different because it's glorified DLSS 5 upscaling. A lot of other recomps are horrifically lazy and being done for attention.
fucking vibecoded enso software
>>586464421It's probably just the update that was meant to come out ten days ago, so not actually that much. It's just insanely huge because hahaha UE5.
>>586464845At the end of the day AI is just a tool. I'm paying more attention to how the modder uses the thing rather than simply hand-waving all those things off as bad.
>>586464986>significantly less steps than trying to play with a friend in online>probably doesn't have that fucking waste of time fancy effect every time you go to a new menu either
>>586464986This is missing the verification can step, which Mavisimen remembered to bring unlike her dipshit fellow cadets.>>586465078Yeah it's more the people who know as much about coding as I do using it as a crutch that I worry about.
I'M A SHARKI'M A SHARKSUCK MY DICKI'M A SHARK
>>586465512new skins??
<< Well played, Wings. >>
>>586465746They came around yesterday morning, that's the only good one though. There'a also an F/A-18 and an Su-57 skin.
>>586465871let me guess, they're premium currency only?
>You're stroking. You are twisting. You're cumming.
>>586465908Unfuckingfortunately, and I bought the shark Frogfoot with some leftover funbux.
>>586465953Tewy femdom JOI would go crazy if she wasn't a cripple...
>>586466060>if she wasn't a cripple...katawa shoujo general begs to differ
>>586466103>it still existsWhat the fuck how do you talk about that game for, what? 2 decades now?
What kinda fucking name is tewy anyway? Is it something lost in translation from katakana? something turkish?
>>586466182she's from the moon>>586466170it's just waifuposting 24/7, like the ddlc/helltaker general or most gacha ones
>>586466170autism finds a way
>>586466170Hey DDLC can somehow keep a general for almost exactly half as long as Katawa Shoujo has and it's got even less to talk about, anything's possible if it involves mental unstable girls who may or may not have disabilities.Rin best KS girl and Natsuki best DDLC girl btw.
>>586465871It's Su-35, not 57. It's actually good looking except the Su-35 is fucking awful online so there's no point buying any accessories for it.This is a screenshot from 7 but it's this skin, looks the same as it always does.
>>586466182It's not turkish, its probably english adjecent to a japanese ear
>>586466958>fave skin of all the sukas>paypig baitfirebomb japan NYOW
>>586466958>>586466991>bunch of polygonsWhat do you guys like about this skin?
>>586466170It's more of a place where people who at some point liked the VN hang out while attempting and often failing to keep on topic. We used to be like that not too long ago, can't say I miss it.
just got max rank in onlinewhich is better for dogfighting overall, the F-22 or the Su-57?
>>586467080the colors, mostlyI'm sick and tired of the six thousand shades of blue on sukhoisit's like an urban camo, but in the air
>>586459130Yeah, I'm with the other guy. In 8 it feels like they fucked with it somehow and it doesn't work as well.It was legit perfect in 7 too. Don't know why they changed it.
>>586467143The Su-33 ace skin is pretty shades of blue though>>586467116If you've been playing this long you should be able to figure this out yourself
What even is the promised land?
>>586467335>The Su-33 ace skin is pretty shades of blue thoughit's not that bad but it's kind of blandI liked the J-15 white livery it had in ac7>>586467398sotoa (forma preindustrialized pastures green)
>>586467398land with 67 virgins
>>586467398The garden of the tall king
>>586467398Tengri larp
>>586467398Do you guys just fucking get claude to play the game while you doomscroll on your phone or some shit?
>>586467398Apparently the land around Stonehenge according to the LB dude.
>>586467485I don't know latin so I may be completely off base butHigh king (implying God) sounds like it would fit better than tall king
>>586467116F-22 has slightly better acceleration.Su-57 has slightly better responsiveness once you get the level 20 ability for both.Su-57 gets air damage ability which is good. F-22 gets missile upgrade ability which is good.Overall Su-57 is probably better.
>>586467445I guess we have opposite tastes since I thought 7's livery was bland
>>586467679In game its referred to (by Dealer iirc) as the garden of the tall king and I think at one point Tewy mentions tall king too. Might just be a translation quirk though of course.
>>586467972i guess it was bland but i have a soft spot for unicolor liveriessee:AC7 gripen (ac8 mogs it though), rafale and the aforementioned su-33
>>586467335I'm very indecisive + investing in either is really expensive blueprints and cash wise
>>586467728I appreciate the insight btw, forgot to reply
>>586468057They're both good but F22A doesnt get the anti air ability so Su57 deals 20% more damage with its QAAMs.
>Patch is up and downloaded:D>Online still isn't upD:
I oddly feel happy about turkish representation in Strangereal, even if they are portrayed as villanous scum that LARP as nomads and commit warcrimes.Some named aces had names of my friends which was disturbing.
>>586467398>Promised Land is real>but only for pilots>Land Battleship assholes are in hell
>>586467398The Electrosphere.
>>586468498They're used to the heat
>>586468304Missed opportunity to have the Kaan as TopKek's villain plane.
>>586468585>bootleg F-22
>>586468585>KaanHow exactly is that pronounced?
>>586468000I thought dealer said high king. I'm from the universe where the girl in moonraker had braces. But now they're gone.
>>586468828Pretty much exactly like pic related lmao.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz2pFROfsCw
>>586468304It's a cultural well that I think is surprisingly unused in fiction. Plus I think it's very clear is a corrupt nobility taking advantage of the common man's desperation for a power grab type of thing. I really like Sotoa as a faction, there's something very sad about their existence. At least Belka and all the other chucklefuck antagonists have a country at the end of their stories. Sotoa proper is functionally abandoned to extreme desertification and the affluent people live on a megafloat. >>586468498Where they fucking belong desu. Like at least the Tonitrus Spears are a level of horrible on the scale of nukes, the landships are such comically destructive machines and the crews don't give a fuck about collateral damage.>>586468585>the Turks will have a domestically produced operational 5th-gen fighter before anyone in Europe doesReal life is my favorite comedy series.
>see ac8 album on spotify>it's like 10 songsfuck man
I hope that one guys dog got fed :(
https://youtu.be/ZMduo-tuflk
>>586468304>known several people with the last name Toprak>they're not even relatives, its just a common surname>each one is an asshole of a different kindHow did PA get their representation so right?
translating is too hardplease understand
>patch is 13.4 niggabytesmay a guided munition fall on timmy for his blasphemy of an engine
<< Joker 1 crashed! No...! >>
>>586467398Sotoa itself.
They gutted ECM, it lasts for ~10 seconds then has a 45 second reload
>>586470687God I wish
Is Toprak actually tolerable on Elite now?>Don't mind me and my 50,000 flaresFuck off
>>586459130Nevermind boresight, I really want a "target closest player" button for pvp.
>>586461407>Start to pay attention in cutscenes more>Start noticing the way she stares at youHow many kids anons?
What did they do to the Ladons
How the fuck does tweaking some enemy behavior and fixing some bugs need 13 gigabytes of data?
>>586471432who cares about dem flares? You're not hitting him with missiles regardless
>>586472292Applied fox 2 correction.
>>586464421Hidden Kate sex scene
>>586472558the same fucking reason why wuwa will never be my favorite game despite me being invested in it, fuck this engine and everything that spawns from it, who the fuck created this shit?
>>586464421Kate disciplining Tasha cutscene.
>>586464421cope nudes
Did the game reset my key bindings after the update
>>586464986Never let techbros develop your important hardware or software i guess
help, i set shift as accelerate but after the update it's no longer workingIt works fine outside the game
>still can't play onlinefuck it
>>586474883>84 hoursrookie numbers tbqh
>>586474883Online is dead anyway.
The verdict is in, AC8 is the worst game in the series and you're a shill for liking it. https://youtu.be/FI34hSQWc7k
>>586465512The shark face has never looked non-retarded on any plane, ever.
What's the best plane for a gun-only run, buddies?
>>586475787Why do some people think their opinions are worth making documentaries about them?
>>586472284a hockey team's worthall 4 lines _______________
>>586475787wow this literally who with a whopping 1300 subs really thought the best way to start his hour+ long video was to use the first four minutes or so broadcasting how much of an insufferable cunt he is
>>586475787He's right about the bossfights being shit at least
>>586475901Anything with MGP, but none of those aircraft are carrier capable so you'll need a backup plane. I'd lean towards the Fishbed for mobility if class medals aren't a consideration.
Named unit aren't bossfights.
ECM nerf totally kills the Prowler and Growler but the Barricader is still decent.
GOOD MORNING I HATE MIGGERSGOOD MORNING I HATE MIGGERSGOOD MORNING I HATE MIGGERS
>>586476892Really? I thought it would be the other way around. >Barricader pops IEWS>Growler pops ECM at the same time to cancel it>IEWS and ECM expire 10 seconds later>Growler has a 32 second window to pop 10 second ESM while Barricader can't do shit
What do people get out of ragebait.Is attention that gratifying?
>>586477197How funny is it, that on a website where we're all anonymous, and thus hardly distinguishable- *attention*, i.e. distinguishment, is the greatest currency? It's like we secretly yearn to NOT be anonymous, but we're well-aware no other place would tolerate us.
So Kate and Rex definitely got together because they are flying together in the ending right
>>586472284N+1
>Endurance is a Hornet carrying Hornets
>>586477595Yeah. Although I wonder why Rex went back to being a WS- wait a minute.>went back to a WSO the moment Cope's ghost left him>Rex was a barely decent helicopter pilot before he was named the new Wings>suddenly he's a Legendary Ace-tier pilot after Cope possessed himYup, seems like Rex got all his skills from Cope's ghost. Once that was done, so was his career as a fighter pilot, he's a forever-passenger. I guess the real Wings really was Cope after all.I'm being tongue-in-cheek if you couldn't tell, many of your are hopelessly autistic.
Ace "the briefing says bring the A-10 to Farbanti" Combat 7. I hate fagtube so much
The planner website is correct and the ability that disables your ability to lock on to air targets is +60% missile damage vs ships.+60% is a big number but I think overall I'd still prefer generic surface damage so my other weapons could benefit. But this one is still okay.
Incendiary bombs are great, aren't they?
>>586477849Napalm sticks to soats.
>>586476892>>586477183Just checked the data site, apparently ESM duration is 15 seconds, whereas ECM and IEWS are 10. I have only personally tested ECM to confirm its new duration.https://ac8-database.pages.dev/changelog/
>>586478038So useless in other words.Cool. Glad I didn’t get a chance to waste time and zollars on the Growler.
>>586478038ESM felt like it was 15 seconds when I tried it earlier. Not that I think anyone was waiting for me to post to confirm but hey.
So barricader is still king?
if I hear another fucking poker analogy im going to shoot down the awacs
>>586478154It'll still be decent. You can still get a lot of super missiles off in 15 seconds. Actually 16.5 because of the ability. Or longer if you take the range one too, but then you have to drop either missile upgrade or air damage and that's a hard choice.Barricader is screwed because of the lower limit and the ability to activate ESM and ECM separately though. Funny how having them both as one weapon is meant to be an advantage but it's actually bad.
>>586478242LAAM, SASM, HVAA, MSL, TLS & guns are the top dogs now.
>>586478326I appreciate that you can skip this speech at the end of M27 by heading straight for the return line as soon as you blow up the reactor.>>586478438Barricader can PSM I guess, but that's not as useful as it was in 7's MP since pure 1v1s are even less likely.
>>586474883It's dead and abandoned. Even if you managed to get in anyway you'd get error 300002 or something after squadron intros
>>586478543>HVAARor.Rmao.
>>586478326bro got folded
>>586478571Nowadays I unironically get more Scrambles and Emergency Sorties via party search, than I do Assaults and Warfare matches that don't kick us back to the lobby after the intro.
>>586477595She is lusting after the player the whole game so yes it is widely accepted that they are married post game. Kate also wears the pants in the relationship anyway>>586477849>When you let Baxter choose the loadouts
>>586478619>only on a single fighter>it's very low cost so it flies badly and doesn't get air damage anywayYF-23 some day...
>>586478326
Bringing back plane levels was a huge mistake gameplay-wise, and lvl 20 planes feel as floaty as ACI.
>>586462756Sotoa is all about larping as based conquerors with zero regard for human life, so it'd come down to how much of that kool-aid your CO drank. Just ask the crew of the Balios.
>>586479485>Lock your crew inside until they literally cook to death>Just before you die, activate the automated weapon systems that require zero human input and you could've switched on at any moment prior to roasting your crew>This all happens while you try to take over a monument to human cooperation and ingenuity, and use it to spread weapons that will allow you to effectively enslave the entire planetThere isn't a level of hell deep enough for the Land Battleship 2 captain.
I've listened to wings of wax about 203 times
>>586478038>10 secondslol. lmao even"Thankfully" a team of 4 EWs can still take turns if they want 95% uptime
>>586476316No he isn't.
>>586477792I kind of assume its a possibly temporary position because Rex had just spent 4 sorties in a single day from Mission 27 to 30 and seriously needs the rest
>>586478038The Barricader has very strong standard missiles even without IEWS, Growler needs ESM for its missiles to do anything.
>>586478038>wingman SOD nerfsDon't you fucking dare touch their MPBMs, they annihilate Celaeno and blast its wings off and it's hilarious>Ladon nerfs>-1 MSL's worth of HP to some targetsWhy even bother>Topkek?
>>586475787Stop advertising.
>>586477810>This late-game mission takes place in a very large area with significant targets both above and below>Hmmm I should bring the slowest piece of shit in the game to this one
>>586480803Quad EW seems pretty pointless though. You can fuck with someone but you're still going to lose because UGBL doesn't care about jamming so the Fullback is going to get a million points.>>586481241Growler does more damage to air because it gets the air damage ability.Barricader homing/reload from double missile abilities is nice but it's not like you need those. Every other plane only gets one missile ability at most and they still work.
>>586475787Kill yourself ruby you bitter faggot.
>>586477810>I'm a retard and also the game should never throw curveballs
>>586475787AC8 has a few definite weak points, but the game is so good overall that it's simply not possible for it to be the worst in the series.No, I will not click on your video.
>>586481545The homing and the focus targetting boosts work really well for third partying from midrange, which is what you should be doing as support anyway.The anti air mod on the Growler doesn't hit any breakpoints that you don't also hit with the Barricader.
>>586477810>there are gen-a wretches whose brains are so cooked that they can't just sit there for a moment and enjoy the literally-always-good briefing music>they probably don't even review the mission area map to see what they're up againstif the zoomers don't save us, no one willit'll just be oligarchs and debt slaves forever
For someone who absolutely hates and doomposts Online you guys sure act like addicts on withdrawal without it.
>>586482537
>>586465367>>586464986>drink enso verification can to eject
>>586482537I'm pretty sure that's the case for most if not all multiplayer game generalsI played one (1) multiplayer match and decided I wasn't going to touch it again
>>586464845If the coder has an idea of what he's doing, decent documentation & primarily uses the AI to crack open the assembly code there really isn't too much issue.Lego Island took like 2 straight years to manually decomp, if AI can partially do an ok job for modding/porting if done right I don't see much of an issue. It's not really even a skill thing, just a question of wasting time.
>"Rex, this is Lieutenant Commander Kate Evans. Permission to ride you until you're mummified and make you a father of eight.">"And I won't take 'no' for an answer."Do you guys think she was hitting on us?
Aw yiss, Crux's 2$ Tesco microphone.
>>586483345>Do you guys think she was hitting on us?She was doing it all game if you take the time to notice.
Just a thought, why does everyone rally towards and hold up the Wings of Theve as a beacon of hope anyway even if like you did the bare minimum every single time?
>>586484032Cause of the propaganda, why else?
>>586484032Topkek and Tewy don't come back to life just because Rex got a D rank.
>>586484281I suppose even the bare minimum for every mission possible even including like having only 1 escort target left alive for every mission is already considered an amazing feat.
>>586483434The way 'the Puna Plains' is said here is etched into my brain forever.It's been at least a decade since I've played X.
>Match begins>Me in a level 4 SU-34>Teammates are all F-4s with no custom naming or paint>Enemy team has Mig-31, Su-34 with max-level paint, a Rafale, and a fucking Barricader >ERROR: Some players have left the gameYeah I'd fucking bet. What is this shit?
>>586483345><<NO>>
>>586484032Because your bare minimum is still fucking insane.
why does the su-34 feel so floaty?
this ebin mommydommy kate waifu xddd waifufaggotry is getting real tiresome
>>586484815Where the fuck do you think you are?
>>586484798It's a fat flanker
>>586482005Every person I know that couldn't sit still or pay attention during a briefing was older than me.
>>586484815More Kate you say?
>>586484815>>586430412
>>586483434>psprecoWhat's this? A different emulator? Or one of these new fancy recomp thingies?Does it run the game at 60 fps?
>>586484815>NATO reporting name: Fagot
>>586484815I'm not really into it, but it means her trading card is priced way higher than the rest, so when I get those out of the booster packs I make every day I get more wallet funds. And I like that. That's good.
>>586484032because doing the bare minimum still means shooting down hundreds of aircraft and single handedly driving an invading force away from the continent
>>586485354It's a recomp, but you can't rebind buttons there like in PPSSPP so it's meh. ACX has rudder on fucking dpad because psp doesn't have L2R2
Did anyone else get this when launching the game? Were there issues, should I bother?
>>586485562No issues here.
>>586485562I do but with AMD insteadnever crashed so far but its kinda annoying
>>586485562It's fucking retarded new nvidia drivers. They shit up a lot of games to be honestYou should roll back, not only because of ace combat.These niggers are vibecoding the drivers with AI i swear
Dealer's VA just finished the game and he was pissing himself laughing at "Bloody hell" and "Blimey"He totally shitposted them into the game
>>586484720>"Overruled, sorry."
>>586485946His British accent is for the most part okay but I'd have still said no if I'd been the hiring director the second I heard him pronounce ammo as 'ahh-mow'
>>586485946Imagine being a dude and unironically making that your avatar. You just know he gets gangbanged by dudes on the regular.
>>586486118Should've hired some absolute top scotsman with the unintelligible accent.
>>586485562I have had literally no problems
>>586486225Should have made all the Immortals Scottish so all you heard was unintelligible yelling and bagpipe noises when they charged the Sotoans only to end in disappointed moans they survive the battle.
>>586485519>an't rebind buttons there like in PPSSPPI can live with thatBut is it still locked at 30 fps?
>>586474241>HarrierI like how everyone is starting to pick up on that even Jackpot is bullying the Gemma nuggets.
>>586486470It runs internally at 30 but actual render is 60. You can unlock the framerate but that fucks up with the whole game.
>>586486202Yeah that's a let down. I don't usually ever watch streams but some bits of his streams are fun, just because he's the VA tho.Like hearing, during gameplay, Dealer literally saying "Shut the fuck up Toprak you larper" or "I can't pull out Exodia, joker one" tickles a part of my brain
>>586485562I get this about my AMD drivers since day one, I just ignore it. Never had a crash or graphics issues.>>586486118The way they pronounce San Salvacion is 100x more horrible but I guess none of them speak spanish so they don't realize
>>586482005I'm 22 and I'm already brainrotted to a degree in which I have to constantly look at my phone for stimulus or my brain feels like it's going into withdrawal.I use video games to detox. It is that bad.I remember when "video game addiction" was a parental worry.
>>586485946During Mission 30, everyone was acting like they were part of D.D's stream. It's cute
>>586486590>I guess none of them speak spanish so they don't realizeDealer's VA is Chilean.
>>586486401https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGq6i2VGcV0
>>586486669So he should have told whoever was in charge that that's not how you say the word salvación though I don't remember if Dealer ever says San Salvacion at any point
>>586486669Isn't he British diaspora that grew up in Chile?
After playing through the game again I realized that DD is probably my favorite character. He starts off being prime target number one as the corpo either already traitor, or will turn a traitor for money at the drop of a hat. Then at the end it comes out that all he wants is for peace on earth. He wants to create Wings to be a great unifier rather than just saving Usea. And he's the only one who actually believes in the mission the entire time, never seen to lose hope until he stops getting likes. DD is real.
>>586485562i got this and I just cancelled, opened the game just fine though, I'm not fu ked or anything right?
>iews 10s duration, 32s cooldownman I'm glad I didn't dump general blueprints into ea-36
>>586486786Any native english speaker is going to pronounce it Salvation because of english phonotactics
>>586486643To be honest, it basically happens in EVERY vtuber stream, western or JPIt IS cute
>>586486969Do you taste any metal?
>>586486973It's good to see ecm get nerfed, but I think that I would have taken a different approach. I would have kept ecm as a special weapon fucker, but I would have made standard missiles immune to ecm.
>>586486973I dumped the full 60 into mine.Might keep playing it anyway, its standards feel really nice even without IEWS. Not sure. If it's better to replace it with a SASM boat teamcomp wise though.
>>586486689Now all we need is a Yorkshire regiment to appear in AC.
>>586484815
>>586486889>gets slandered by rosie once>changes his entire worldviewI respect it
Is the Assault queue dead again? These fucking gook servers I swear.
When are we getting the Su-37 bros?is it okay to fly the 33 and larp as the 37 in the meantime?
>>586489965Whenever they release the Su-37 -YLW- in a battlepass
>>586490138So probably December
>Play 5 games as assault aircraft in co-op warfare. I have never wanted to reach out through my pc monitor to strangle someone more than doing this.
>>586486118Apparently he was channeling Zero from MGS
>>586488935I think his worldview was the same throughout, but he realized his methods were wrong once Rosie called him out.
>>586486889>revealed to be the son of a Mega-Peter Theil>revealed to be a corporate executive as a hobby >revealed to just want to unite the world through InstagramAbsolute chad
>>586491213I need to make some webms of his numberfagging kek.
>Solo queueing scrambles and emergency sortiesISHYGDDT
Reading the lyrics to Song of Wings. It's almost more about him than it is about Rex.
>>586491213Considering that his reaction on seeing the superfuckyou submarine sent to murder him by his former employer was to livestream it happening, he has balls of steel
>>586478038>Unique plane abilities apparently have levelsSo how exactly are they leveled and applied? And more importantly, why are Jap devs so vague about explaining core mechanics? They get triggered when people tamper and datamine their source code but maybe that wouldn't be so prevalent if they would do their due diligence.
>>586491213Can't believe the most endearing character in this game is a nepo baby tech bro who wears sneakers with a suit and loves AI slop. Masterful play, Katabuchi-san.
>>586492157Most of the abilities have levels. As far as I know though, there’s no actual way to level them so it’s probably not in the game yet, so nobody knows how it’s going to happen.
So if I shoot down 1 bomber at mission 6 will I only have to face 1 in the later mission?
Will pixy ever use UGBL or is it basically me gimping my AI partner? I know PJ is too braindead to target ground opponent but is Pixy's AI the same?
>>586486889Feels like they did a switcheroo with his character halfway through the game. Early on dude definitely had a more sinister vibe to him but by the end of the game he turns into some fuddy duddy wholesome failson who just wants to unite the world in peace.
If Cope survived the prologue, how would the story change? For me, I think Rex would still become Sotoa's boogeyman anyway but I guess Cope would also play decoy and there might have been some time before the Sotoans realize that its not Joker 1 of the Wings of Theve who they should pay attention to>>586491793I feel its about the Wings of Theve as a whole what with the whole being looked down on or called a liar but carrying on the fight to rise above the chaos and carry on hope. But I suppose it would include D.D's propaganda program
>>586492464Back in the day to prevent kill stealing and reduced payouts, people would give Pixy bombs and order SP Weapons and disperse ground targets on missions like Mayhem. Other than that, there's no reason to give your wingman anything by qaams
>>586492680Tasha gets sidelined from flying and we take her spot. Cope takes her role as the one to distract and bring you enemies to shoot down. He shields you instead of Baxter at the end.
>>586492797isn't 4AAM handier in past games? Whenever I see Pixy use that the tracking is demonic
>>586491584what are you supposed to do otherwise
>>586492834Nah. Tasha becomes Cope’s GIB
Switching from the AC8 hornet to the ACZ hornet feels like taking off the weighted clothes. The physics are so insanely reactive, you can turn on a dime and there is zero inertia
>>586492882Invite the boys?
>>586492882You start a party and make it public so three other people can get gold blueprints too.
>>586493256Or I could not do that.
>>586493360and queue up with barely functioning fucks on Chandelier? sure, you can do that. I'd never though.
>>586493504If you’re having trouble with any of the Emergency Sorties, skill issue.
>>586492882Make a party and invite your buddies.>>586493360>B-but it doesnt help METhis is actual nigger thinking anon. Same shit that keeps them in stuck in huts.
What the fizzityuck is AC8 patching? I read the notes and they read like a hot fix, not a 12gb download and patch? I've been stuck staring at the progress bar for an hour. I just want to play cozy skyrim now that it's cold again.
>>586492298A lot of level 3 abilities seem like they'd be insanely broken so I'm not sure they'll ever come. Imagine Growler with level 3 missile and ESM abilities. If you come within 3000m of this plane then it starts spamming impossible to dodge missiles ever second and you automatically die. Or Barricader, now that I think about it. It won't even care about the IEWS nerf since both its missile upgrades at level 3 will mean its missiles are insane all the time.
I'd love to see a CAS plane get the cover next game. It would be a cool way to start the game, too.>AC9 introduces new destruction model, not so much physics as aesthetics, because arcade game>you start out in an A-10C>first mission is providing CAS to entrenched troops>AWACS reports overwhelming air presence incoming>you take a hit to your radio from AA fire>HQ orders your flight to return, they do, you're left behind>you fight multiple waves of enemy fighters, each successive wave taking out another part, wingtip, tail segment, finally an engine>game intends for you to lose and the men on the ground to die, but if you're good enough you can down enough fighters for the enemy to call off the attack>cutscene from the ground perspective where your Warthog circles the rescued men one last time, trailing heavy smoke and visibly beat to shit>long, hard to control flight back to base>hardest landing in the game, again intended to crash land but can be managed with precision>saving the troops against all odds gets you assigned to whatever super squadron takes up the main campaign>beating them back unlocks something, landing unlocks something, and doing both in the same run unlocks a third thing
>>586493926Miracle of UE5
>>586493783buddies?
>>586493926You can thank god it's not overwriting the entire 100GB+ like some games.
>>586493926Probably shoving a bunch of skins and other shit like that for the online in addition to the small balance tweaks.
>>586493926There's a bunch of bugfixing for the campaign too.>>586494264Unfathomably based idea, though I'd probably find the unavoidable damage scripting annoying.
>>586494529There'd need to be hundreds of skins for it to be that big. This is just UE5 being awful again.
>>586481330Apparently Topkek and crew can no longer shit infinity billion flares
>>586494264
For plane class specific playthroughs, does everyone have to have a specific plane class or only me?
>>586495870Just you
>>586495870Just you.
>>586495870just yoU.
>>586495870https://youtu.be/7IhC3oVo-e8
>>586495870.uoy tsuJ
>>586495870Just you but having a squad with different planes is cringe.
>>586496339I give Tasha Russian planes.
>>586496339retard
>>586494264Your post opened with one of the most terrifying things a man can hear yet you somewhat sold me on the idea, let's just skip the shithog and find somethinf better.
I've never seen an official un-endorsement lmao.
>>586495870https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xg-zPrWuxmI
>>586496659Ignore it. I do, because the drivers on my machine just work.
>>586496424As a punishment?
>>586494684You can update UE5 games without having to download 10% of it all again for a minor patch, it's just that the retarded gooks who coded this game don't know what they're doing while jumping from one engine to the next every time they make a new game.
>>586496759She is Yuktobania after all
>>586496659Wouldn't it be funny if somehow the driver was causing the MP disconnects?
My shitbox at work can emulate ACZ just fine but the port runs like shit. whatdatmean
>>586497083Does your work shitbox have integrated graphics that acz.exe might be (for some reason) be defaulting to?
>>586496848That is cruel! She came to Usea to fly fun Osean surplus planes not be stuck with Yukeshit!
>>586497613You vill fly the Su-33, and you vill be happy.
>>586497741She is going to end up crying to Kate you know that right?
>>586498070Oh nooo. Whatever will Kate do~ I hope she doesn’t spank me
>>586498070>Kate cuddling Tasha in her bunk all night.Thanks for the image, anon.
Did they change anything else with the extra time or is it exactly the same update we were going to get last week?
A-and Jackpot 9 can join in, right? She's part of the Wings of Thieve too!
>>586498636Kate is the type to punch you so hard that she would knock you out cold if you were bullying Tasha to be honest anon.>>586498748Kate gives off peak mom energy and even tells off Queen flight at one point for teasing Tasha. She probably does give Tasha cuddles when she is upset.
>>586499196My wife is just an eater egg :(
>>586499875You have to earn her.I wish there were more characters that show up in Mission 28 that you need to earn.
BTW, LAAMs were stealth-nerfed.
>>586499983It would be cool if there were ways to change who's piloting at te end.
Beat PW's DLC today and I gotta say it's arguably the best piece of content for an AC-like game. 7, so far, is the only game to have gotten a story DLC but I liked this one way more.Every mission is a blast, except for the tunnel one because it's relatively short, although the track is a banger, so every mission is a blast.Speaking of which, some couple of weeks ago I did say that I didn't like the main game's OST that much and while I'm definitely not as opposed to it anymore, the music in the DLC is head and shoulders above the main OST. It achieved something that the vanilla OST did not - it made me look it up and listen to it outside of the game. I do like "Coronation" though.I've now completed both main and DLC campaigns on Merc difficulty, using cockpit view only (crazy how this has an FOV slider out of the box, while AC still doesn't)I also spent 2 hours playing Cold War with Glass Cannon, Ace Training, Double Time and Speed Demon modifiers turned on. (It was very fun) (AC needs to include some modifiers like that that you can turn on and just fuck around)
>>586499983Sharks would have been nice if you don't shoot them down. But if you do shoot them they survive but are understandably miffed.Red squadron from the C-130 mission would have been funny too then they die to bomber aa>>586500213The database site already has a change log that doesn't mention anything
>>586483345>Rex and Kate Plus EightWould (You) watch their reality tv series?
>>586501582It’s a really stealthy nerf.
>>586501582Aren't you forced to shoot those two red assholes down? I figured they'd manage to take out the c-130 when with their lack of training.
Also, I have a source at Bamco that tells me they’re going to have a mass banwave next week. The primary targets are going to be people with online names that are cringy references to other AC games, as well as edgy “cool” names.
assault is pure pvp and warfare is pve? Also why is tdm the only mode with point limit? Just give every mode point tiers so I don't have to suffer with sweats
>>586472558because there are only two dev studios that actually know how to use the damn engine. Epic themselves and The Coalition who have basically been making the same game for over 10 years and are also largely former Epic devs. Everyone else is just going "ooh shiny" and are bumbling around with bullshit they barely understand.
>>586501810Honestly? Yeah. Would prefer a slice of life series though involving Rex and Kate and their two adopted kids.
Is this a Mazda?
>>586501096>I did say that I didn't like the main game's OST that much and while I'm definitely not as opposed to it anymore, the music in the DLC is head and shoulders above the main OST.I like base PWs music but I will agree that Frontline 59's is much, much stronger, It really feels like Pavli hit his stride for the DLC. Back to back bangers for every mission. Fullmetal Frontline and World on Fire, as well as Black Eagles+Descendants are all so good. (dropping a track with Fullmetal in the name on the 3rd of October got a laugh out me)I don't have particularly high hopes for Dawn: Aerowar as a story, but I think we'll get some absolute heat for music.
bro why does this exist?
>>586503328No, Mazdas have a big grille >t own a Mazda
>>586503328It's what you get when you mush every crossover together into one ugly forgettable vehicle.
>>586499983Why does it feel like there was even more stuff cut from 8 than 7? You have conversations prompts that don't even do anything, the fully modeled interior of the endurance as shown in the credits, the potential for characters to live or die depending on your performance in mission (but it's only jackpot 9) etc.
Do you think we’ll get black Emergency Sorties again?
>>586503765I don't see color
Why is she called Irritated Bowel?
>>586503328Looks to me like a newer Toyota RAV4 but I am more inclined to go with >>586503746 as an answer.
>>586503746So the average modern market chinese SUV?
>>586503841Irritable Bowels is an acute description after suffering online to finish the battlepass.
>>586503762It seems they intended Rex to be able to freeroam in the Endurance in development but decided against it
>>586504404>but decided against itMore likely it was something they didn't have time to properly implement.
Gripen a cuteHosting e sortie in 5 min
>>586504441I mean as a dev + player I would wonder if it would add anything substantial to the campaign experience and...it might notWonder if Ace Combat Online lobby is a carryover from that idea
>>586491213>salary man gets hit put on him by former employers and is stuck on a boat with crazy motherfuckershey wait a second...
Some people may speak down to youSome people accuse you of being a liarBut if there is nothing we can believeCould it be the wings to fly are my imagination?
How bad is the average ace combat player at the game?
>>586503328It's a dodge hornet
>>586502547Assault is PvP + NPCs, where getting your three stars up by killing NPCs is more important for your score multiplier.
>>586506671Always keep your expectations low for average player skill. Though they often are still better than the likes of some streamers or game journos
>>586506671Extremely bad. Even some people who are "veterans of the series"(played some of the PS2 games as kids then came back for AC7) are still extremely bad and struggle with anything more advanced than just chasing the target arrow.
>>586506671Think of the average person. Think of how dumb they are.Now realize that statistically speaking, half the population is below that.
>>586501582>>586500213Were laams actually nerfed, or was the npc Ai buffed to take some level of evasive action against long range attacks?
>>586506671Extremely dumb, but the ladon fight was still gay as fuck playing red-light green-light with intercept windows. Easily the games most boring snooze fest of a mission.
>>586507596>t. "series veteran"
>>586507596Every time you make variants of this post I see people call you retarded or autistic.
>>586506671>never got to play AC6 so I had no idea what I was doing the first time>second time follow the guys that know what they're doing>naruhodostruggling in AC is 100% self inflicted via not paying attention. The Ladon fight has several points in which they heavily decelerate and you will over shoot them if you're not managing speed.
https://x.com/endoraiii/status/2117254709442678909
Aieeee why is kate taking me away, i wanted to be with tasha help meeee
>>586508370>He wanted to be with a childFCU OPEN UP!
>>586508256So glad to see this.
>>586506671Is he doing a bit he sounds like he knows what he's doing in these games.Then again it must be a special type to get heavy into PVP when escon have the mechanical depth of a puddle.
>>586508157this is in reference to the chandelier if it wasn't clear, I've been staring at inventory spreadsheets for several hours without an energy drink and my brain is fried.
>>586506671>outspeeding the fastest plane in the gameIt's almost like that's the whole pointAre people nowadays just literally retarded?
>>586508453Legal in shilage
>>586508256Heh nice
>>586508256According to the database, ECM and IEWS are 10 up 32 downESM is 15 up 27 down
>>586508501PSM spam won't help against the Ladons
>>586508552Waiting for the game to graciously allow you to shoot the target is gay af desu
>>586509238You can shoot at them at any moment you intercept them. Only thing not allowing you is your own ability.
The Ladon fight is solved very easily by taking 1 engine out on each before you kill one off.
>>586507953It's still red light green light. I don't understand you you can enjoy or take pride in a mission that boils down to simply>do not tail chase planes that are faster than you>wait for your green light intercept window
>>586509356>any moment you intercept themYes, when the game allows you to because lol scripted.
>>586509238Sure, but at least it's still faster and less egregious than Mihaly's monologue invincibility or the Arsenal Bird shields. It's also more interactive because better intercept vectors will give you longer green light times.
>>586492253>love love>hate hateIt's that simple, but difficult at the same time
>>586508501https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNigyBU9-vAHe knows how to endlessly loop in a slow circle and spam PSMs against other retards who know how to endlessly loop in slow circles while spamming PSMs. PVP in Ace Combat is unfathomably fucking retarded.
>>586508157you'll be more efficient if you played AC6 because you know what the radio callouts are actually saying to do, but chandelier's not impossible to figure out
>>586509356Interception is still red light green light dumbass. They quickly accelerate outside of weapons range after the intercept. You window to engage closes and you're back to redlight
To fix pvp all they had to do was introduce tiered MM.
>>586509440>>586509696>a fight has le...phases?!?! NOOOOOOOOOOOO LITERALLY TRASH 0/10 GAME THIS IS BULLSHIT
>>586509815retard
>>586509462You can guarantee intercepts by placing yourself between the ladons and the fleet. But it's still a redlight greenlight waiting game of waiting for them to stop fucking around on the edge of the map and make another pass at the fleet
>>586506957I like chasing the arrow in first personHow do I not do that?
>autistic retards shitting themselves over waiting 30~ seconds in a mission that can be completed in 4 minutes
>>586509462Their path is scripted, where you intercept them on that path isn't. You can intercept them while they're full throttle, get good.
>>586509815You're really stretching the definition of a phase. It's just attack them when they slow down, and don't try to attack them when they're fast.
Do not forget who your queen is.
>you can totally catch them going M4 bro trust me
>>586509601The funny thing is that PvP energy fighting in AC7 actually had a decent amount of depth and strategy to it, while still being accessible. If not, there would have been no need to have a tactics section in the guide.
>>586510224Get real no one does that there's no point when you can loop with infinite energy
>>586510169You don't chase them. You put yourself between the fleet and them so that they need to pass into your weapons range as part of their approach to engage the fleet. It's still redlight greenlight
>>5865102247 is such an abusable fucking mess that you'd need to be mentally unwell to consider playing the multiplayer.
It's like Armored Core 6 when that came out it was just people not shooting hard enough. Ladon fights rewards you for contorting your hand to get guns on spam missiles and every SPW on cooldown it's fun.
>>586509696>any enemy that can avoid getting hit freely bad designTurns out it was contempt for the medium all along
>>586510003Hold triangle and look at the target while you maneuver. It lets you have better awareness of their maneuvers so that you can stay a step ahead of them.It helps if your controller has back paddle buttons to map to triangle so that you can still shoot while tracking.
>>586509718There arent enough players to have any kind of MM.
>>586510382You're such a fucking retard. Should they fly at 200 knots so you can shoot them for free?
>>586509238Yeah it is but that's the whole premise of the mission and will continue to be after the nerf. Yet these people seemed to believe they should still be able to catch it at their convenience if they just upgraded a fast plane.
>>586510324Energy isn't infinite, you expend it while high-Ging and get it back with acceleration. It's obviously not as devastating as War Thunder to be out of energy, but it still means being left at a disadvantage and open to attacks, and you can even use some rudimentary BFM. My favourite combination to use was rolling scissors+airbrakes to get my opponent to overshoot me.I genuinely wish ACO took more from 7.>>586510414The only abusable things were PSMing and the unholy three Sp.Ws. Everything else had a proper counter, the cost-limited rooms were fun, and the flight model itself (plus the less jittery netcode, and closer balancing) allowed for more strategic dogfighting compared to 8.
>>586511183Don't make me pull out the "ultimate psm guide" detailing every shitty broken thing about the flight model.
>>586510804It's just a dogshit turd of a mission because there is nothing to fucking do while waiting for your next green light window. The mission would be better if you also had to deal with additional threats to the fleet between ladon strikes. Throw in some rafales and f2s attacking the fleet or SOMETHING more than literally nothing while you wait for red light to end.At least mission 30 gives you some skaal lagers to fuck around with while waiting for permission to attack the submarine. It's not much but it's a far cry better than the ladon fight.
>>586511287My post literally said>The only abusable things were PSMing and the unholy three Sp.WsI literally mentioned that PSMs were the exception to the rules that made dogfighting fun. 7 including them is a mistake as grave as DFM was for Assault Horizon, and 8 doubling down on buffing them is a bad sign.
>>586511556>M30 is better than M15Good bait
>>586509238>entire premise is extremely fast bombers that need to slow down to attack effectively giving you a window to do damage before they speed up for another pass>when there's one left and it's damaged it uses its full arsenal to attack you instead of speeding off for another pass>this is somehow a problem and bad game design because you can't just spend the entire mission holding rt and spamming missiles at the ladons ass Honestly getting real tired of you fucking idiots.
>>586511556You would complain if you had to deal with additional threats too.
>>586511556The mission is like five minutes long. You have the attention span of a dying goldfish you autistic moron.
so did they Ladons get nerfed or buffed this patch
>>586511730They are both shit, but 30 is less shit. They're both waiting missions. Like you're stuck in a waiting room waiting for your number to be called, but at least mission 30's waiting room has a TV that's playing the Home and Garden channel. Nobody really cares about the shows but it's better than monotonous nothing.
>>586512076>i need jingling keys at all times or i check out>i can't let atmosphere and dialogue play out i NEED something happening at all times
>>586512076You don't have to wait in M15. You can keep intercepting the Ladons every time they turn even while theyre going full speed. I think you're just bad, anon.
>>586511776>it's FULL ARSENAL>a laser that shoots backwards and a funny kulbitProud of beating redlight greenlight
>>586485946Kono reposted & replied to his completion tweet, too. I'm sure FAN is fucking malding.
>>586468498Sailors become the eternal servants of Torres phantom alicorn
>>586512498S-ranked it with ease. It's just redlight greenlight. No depth to it. No challenge beyond "don't tail chase a plane that's faster than you like a gaming journalist". That's the entire mission.
>>586512517Yes retard, that's what full arsenal means. They spam missiles and CIWS at you. I wish your mother had ran that red light while you were in her fetid womb so we weren't forced to suffer your miserable autism.
>>586512787>S ranked with easeBy crying and pissing you mean, after several anons told you how.
why the fuck is there so much hubbub about a gimmick mission
>>586512772>Torres returns as an undead submarine captain commanding the souls of the damnedI kind of want this.
>>586513060Because some autist can't resist spouting his new favorite phrase when it gets brought up.
>>586512772Is it a Wild Hunt type of thing?
>>586510058when I finish my ACE/multi role play though I wanna see how they fare against railguns. Bunch of shit I just wanna test in this game.
>>586513060Because some people are really fucking proud of overcoming the gimmick and don't like being reminded that it's just a gimmick.
>>586513449Has anyone managed to kill them by clipping their wings? Aces at War mentions that they were designed to die if you blow up their wing spar, but the Ladons get stupid high damage resist against guns and I don't recall wing spars being a lock-on target.
>>586513561Retard
>>586513561>Because some people are really fucking proud of overcoming the gimmick and don't like being reminded that it's just a gimmick.???literally no one's proud of overcoming the gimmick. you can't point to a single post where that's the case, it's just a bunch of anons shitting on you for complaining that supersonic bombers built to outspeed everything outspeeds the player
>>586513060knuckle dragging apes are revealing that they are indeed knuckle dragging apes.its Balteus all over again.
>ladon brats kekking @ u>pfft he didn't S rank us on Ace before the nerf>heeeeeh maji?!
I just chased those two things around the map and turned sharper than them and caught them and got the medal. This red light green light shit doesn't make sense and neither does anyone failing the mission. Just have good control over your aircraft. I even dealt with one going fully armed and didn't have a problem.
>>586514668>>pfft he didn't S rank us on Ace before the nerfThis would be the silliest nugget filter, since all it takes to S-Rank is not having to restart. But I do forget how bad modern """gamers""" are, like >>586506671
>>586514668I had a way easier time S ranking them than I did no-hitting them, I swear their bullets have like a 4km range.
>>586511640There's more than PSM shit in that guide lol
>>586506671This is why the game should have PW-style modifiers, I'd love to replay the mission even more if they were even harder to catch. Tracing the trajectory of faster jets with a prop and clowning on them was one of the most fun bits of WT.
https://youtu.be/bC6COYABdeE?si=UR54OtOOeivH6sLs delivery nearly completed...
>>586515579It feels like this dude has made more progress with his game than Pavli's made with his gay-ass audio play or Arby/FAN have made with the fucking artbook.
4 NIGGAS ON A PLANE
>>586515579Looks a tad unrealistic
>>586510093source. i need the bee.
>>586516037bait used to be believable
>>586516280I was just trying to be funny
>>586515690Who makes lunches?
>>586515579I do not care about FANslop.
So long, and thanks for all the fish.
>>586516749FAN isn't involved, only Pavli
>>586516618ME :^)https://pastebin.com/4gW3sM4C
>>586480619Copy!
>>586516836He is. He produces this shit, as well as other bunch of borderline asset flips. Sadly even At Skies' Edge is touched by the hand of this shit-Midas.
>>586516821POV: You're a US F-4 pilot in 1967
I don't care about anything in life anymore. Just give me AC9. I need it more than oxygen.
>>586512661That cute
>>5865174972035 ok?
>>586517497Look after yourself so you can see the day AC9 arrives, anon.
>>586517731No. 2028, take it or leave it.
>>586512661why would this upset fan
F-47 status?
>>586518248I assume because Kono has never acknowledged PW?
I need more plane games. Besides PW are there any other non-AC games worth playing?
>>586518542Nuclear option
>>586518542No>inb4 early access slop>inb4 simslop
>>586516451its okay anon, you got a chuckle out of me
RCL does ridiculous damage against the ladons
>>586518404goodwhy should he
>>586516936>2018I always forget how much of my life I've spent on the 4chinz
>>586518542Airforce Delta, Raiderssphere, Sky Crawlers.
>>586518830>2018lmao you child 2009 for me
>Ask my boy what he thought of AC8>He says he hasn't been able to play past mission 8, game just crashes and he's tried literally everythingthis is a tragedywhat's this 13gb update about?
Restarting from checkpoints reloading all your special weapons makes the game way too easy. If you didn't restart mission only on failure, you didn't beat the game
>>586518385this is an F-47 according to a 2020 article from a vietnamese website I just foundAI image gen has come a long way lol
>>586518385Will look like a boring triangle
This is the FS-12 Revoker.It is a lightweight, inexpensive interceptor/air superiority fighterSay something nice about it!
>>586518190You too King
if this is what 6th gen will look like I hope AC9 will still feature plenty of old planesthis looks so bland and boring
>>586519548>inexpensiveYeah, those panel gaps indicate build quality on the level of a $5000 indian-made shitbox
>>586518830>>586519003Honestly, I cherish the time I've spent here. 4chins made me discover a ton of cool shit, let me enjoy my hobbies, and I've even made plenty of friends hi mr Draken man :^)t. 2014, and discovered /aceg/ in 2017
>>586518589I've played this before and its pretty nice, but I'm looking for a game with a proper campaign>>586518668Maybe on steam but I bet there's bunch of good old console games >>586518976I'll take a gander at these.
hello acegany hidden changes in the patch? or just the IEWS/sp bossfight nerfs?
>>586518248FAN desperately wants to be taken seriously, it's why he's always posting his pseud takes on twitter. Ironically posting dumb shit on twitter is probably why he can't make inroads deeper into the gaming industry, like why the fuck would Project Aces want to work with the dude who had hot takes such as PA's collaboration with plane manufacturers being akin to their original sin.
>>586520209>if I did anything to this genrehe really does think very highly of himself just for having contributed to an indie videogame that no one outside ace combat communities remembers
>>586514668Correction needed!!!!
>>586518404Pretty sure he did, but it was just like "oh wow even the creator of Project Wingman is following AC8" in a tweet, I can't find it though
>>586519260>thrust vectoringJust vector the whole plane lmao
>>586518542Aero Fighters Assault for the N64 isn't a great, or even a good gamebut I think it's worth a shot. Some of the music is nice and the character lines are quotable (in a bad way).
>>586520209Does he think he's the first one to come up with talking WSOs? Dude totally schizo'd out after PW got semi-popular.
I really hate this either or situation with PW. "Either it was a super mega success that completely revived Ace Combat, or it was a failure and nobody cares." Neither of those things are true.There's a lot in AC8 that was influenced by PW, but it's all pretty subtle. Made the game better, but stuff like "Rex and the Five Wings are totally Monarch" is mental.
>>586519003>2018That's not when I started browsing 2012 endless summer eternal newfag here, but more that 2018 was so long ago I barely remember what I was doing in life yet I immediately knew I was lurking somewhere on this site. I really should organize my reaction image folders.
>>586516118I forgor
>>586516118>sourceaislop
6 runs in and i still get a dumb smile in 28 and I still cry at the end of 30
>>586521531I respect Arby for one-manning the whole game and being /ourguy/I respect Pavli for making cool tunesI dunk on the artbook because lol broken kickstarter promiseI dunk on Dawn Aerowar because lol vaporware (?) kickstarter projectI shit on FAN because he's obnoxioussimple as
>>586521971You have soul.
>>586521531>There's a lot in AC8 that was influenced by PW,Yea I don't see it. JA had two special weapons and land battleships are hardly the most original creation. I like PW beyond the schizo writer, but I don't think it had much influence on 8.
>>586515687pavli's audio play's about to release, dude
>>586522318I think the relationship between AC and PW should be seen as a conversation. PW contributed some elements, but not all elements, and AC8 used some ideas while adding some of their own into the mix.This is a pretty standard healthy exchange between Japanese and American cultural spheres, and it happens all the time.
>>586521531pw was goodthis fan guy is an absolute shit eating cuntthats all i'm saying
>>586521531>There's a lot in AC8 that was influenced by PW,AC8 has more AH in it than it does PW. Multiple SPWs were done way earlier in genre (HAWX) and in series itself (Joint Assault(although at cost of replacing standard missiles)).
>>586522238Aerowar is out on the 10th this month, anon
>>586521531monarch? outside of maybe the naming idea his emblem's more like a riff on crimsoneven then it's pretty different
>2 weeks of Warfare challenges.Fuck off PA, start adding content to this shitheap online.
>>586515687>>586522660I'll believe it when it actually releases, trailers be damned. First time they've given a date but it's not the first time in these past five years they've promised it's totally almost done, seriously for real.
>>586522804playing as rex and ending the game flying in king 1 is a pretty obvious nod to PW but it's only as deep as a name
I actually think that Cope going by 'Rex' is meant to be ironic, as he's a fake ace that never shoots anyone down, thus no king.Joker Flight represents how the Joker can be both a high and a low card depending on the context. 'Ray' is called thus because he is both a ray of hope, as well as 'Rey' as in 'King'.
I have never cried playing AC8.
>esm and ecm activation times nerfed pretty hard>Growler and Barricader are basically just shittier multiroles nowHeh. Well I'm never getting those golden blueprints back, but at least they still achieve my goal of buff slutting friendlies during raids. Now if only there was an air to air Sortie worth bringing EW to, because ground Emergency Sorties are owned by F-15E/Su-34/Su-25 and other attackers.
>>586523905I wish we had fully stopped being Rex and embraced RayIt'd also reject Topkek's characterization of us as Rex Raptorum showing he's completely out of touch
>>586524259Agreed. Should have been a live confession by DD that Cope is dead, but that Ray has been winning the war since his death.
>>586524247With the huge downtime now I've swapped ESM/ECM radius for AA damage and MSL upgrade on the Growler. They just don't feel worth it anymore
How were ladons changed
>>586524515Decreased health on relevant weapon/engine parts.
>>586524508I dropped 4AAMs for XSDBs on the Barricader. Doubt I'll bring either into Warfare any more since I figure a decent Fighter will be more consistent, and thought I might as well try to get some extra ground points in Assault instead of chasing more air kills with 4AAMs of all things.
>>586523657Or its just a part of the playing card theme they went with.You're massively overestimating how many people care about PW lol.
>>586524563I dont know how much of an effect this is if you cant gun the engines
>>586525384There were retards IN THIS VERY THREAD who believed the Ladon fight is "red light green light" and weren't just chasing their dumb asses and gunning them every chance they got.So, just goes to show the level of basic mechanical understanding the average player has.
Planes I've taken to 20>MiG-29a (Jetfu)>F-4 (Forma de MGP)>F-2a (Forma el shipfucker)>F/A-18E (best girl hornet)>F15C (Cipher cosplay)Working on SU-33Never touched any of those laam boat whores or ECM faggotry .t someone with crippling contrarianism
>>586525532By can't gun the engines i was suspecting the engines cant be hit by guns for some reason
>>586525768No, the Ladons basically only have invincibility turned on at the very beginning due to the first pass being scripted, but after that they're completely killable.The Ladons don't have invincibility turned on to such an extent that you can kill the Ladon you see in the desert mission.
>>586525573>t. Someone with soul
>>586525573I went straight for the SU-47 because planefu>b-but multirole in online s-Don't care, Bercute
>>586525573Literally me spiritually. I can't play ACO though.
>uwu look at me I'm such a special pretty princess because I don't play with the toys all the other girls do, please give me validation of how heckin' unique I am!nobody cares faggotshut the fuck up and play the game
>>586527229I care. >>586525573Thanks for posting anon and keep up the good work.
If you don't like other people talking about their planefus or plane preferences, fuck off.
i want a low cost bracket where i can motor around in a bronco
>>586525573Plane list, in obtained order:>F-4E (Gunpods go brrrr)>F-14A (preorder)>Pixy (0 miles with the stickers still on)>Mig-21 (Gunpods go brrrr)>F-18C (I didn't know multiroles were mid)>EA-18G (I thought it'd be cool to support the team)>EA-36 (I didn't want to spend 30 more golden blueprints just for ECM and no one had ECM yet so I didn't know how cancer it is)>Su-34 (team failed Alicorn and UGB/MGP wasn't enough for me)>Su-25 (DickTornado shilled it really well)>FA-36 (Cannon Fodder is the best nickname)>F-16C (she cute and I already have too much metashit)I play mostly Assault or farm bots in Warfare because PvP makes me upset. If an enemy player tries to bully my attacker I'll help out, but with dogfighting players is so unengaging to my shitter ass that I'll avoid it so long as they leave my team alone.
>>586527229Uh huh, that's nice dear.>>586526259So anyways, same for me but with the F-4E (and any future variants), Phantom Phlyer 4 lyf>but it's the starter plane>but it's the worst stats in the game>but it's multiroleDon't care, going the distance, and HEAVILY bragging when I reach the 500 sorties title. The sad part is, I'm still usually in the top half of the scoreboard of the combined teams.
>>586525573Giving a (you) cause the other anon was a faggot.I got to the F-4 to level 20 and F-14D to level 20 and nearly got the F-14A and F-18C up to level 20 before I got fed up of online. >>586527229>anon doesn't want to be a special pretty princessWhy are you here?
>>586527924>spoilerNot that surprising, high level plane's maneuverability combined with UGBs will let you outscore most players who have underleveled planes and lack SpW unlocks. I wish excess XP was carried over to other planes or something so playing fully leveled planes didn't waste XP, the memory chip you get is less than what even Warfare gives a non-fully leveled plane.
>>586528485Don't you get x2 chips if you're maxed? That's what I seem to get on the Phantom at least.
>>586528816You get one.
>>586527924I've was routinely getting MVP in the F-4E using UGB even when facing off against SU-34 fags which really made me question how could they be so bad with the meta attacker?
>>586529697It's more about the harassment capabilities of your fighters. You can use whatever for the ground pound role so long as your fighters are killing the enemy ground pounder and keeping you safe.
>>586525573How are you liking the Su-33 so far? Been debating if I want that or the F-16 for my mid-cost TDM QAAMer
>>586529697I think it's partly what the other guy said, but also even in co-op assault I think a lot of bad players get target fixation. For people like us and likely the majority of this general, when you're in a multirole with bombs, you plan out your movements to wipe as much out without loitering, so bombing a couple clusters, firing a couple missiles at aircraft, move on and repeat. But I see a lot of players circling or doing loops on single spots to get every last square, or getting locked in on one plane that managed to jink a missile, when you've only got a few minutes, the 20s you spent following that F-22 could cost you an easy 15k+ in other kills, in Warfare it's an even bigger difference, of course there sometimes you just don't have a choice and have to engage a player until help arrives.
>>586525573Making the multiplayer like this where you have to level up planes was a cancerous decision that only cancerous retards would ever make.
>Player count dived into the dirt>Online has become largely unplayable if you're not in an end game plane 10/10 online design, no notes
>>586531389QAAMs suck. RCLs suck even harder. HVAAs are merely okay.
>>586531653> Online has become largely unplayableSimply an issue of skill.
>>586531816Alright going with the F-16 then since she's cuterThanks anon
>>586511556There's legitimately only one point where you can't catch up and hit them, which is when they're climbing after shooting the ships. Every other point you can easily just go up and shoot at them, it's really not that restrictive. The worst part is waiting for banker to get btfo so you can actually play the game.
Wholesome... :D
>>586531653>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WHY AREN'T PEOPLE REPLAYING A 15 HOUR CAMPAIGN OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER FOR DECADES, DEAD GAME, IT FLOPPED, BOMBED, FAILED, AND THE SERIES IS OVERyawn
>>586525532You're literally describing a redlight green light scenario where you cannot attack the faster planes that you are chasing (red light) until they choose to make a maneuver that lets you make an intercept and get a few hits in (green light). Ultimately your opportunity to attack is gated by the ladons offering you the opportunity, and not because of any skill on your part.
>>586533294Skill issue.
>>586533294You can attack them for the majority of the mission after the first pass. So it's more like green light amber light. You have clear "attack windows" where they're totally free but they're still catchable(and attackable) the rest of the time outside of the very first pass.
I agree the ladons aren't a particularly fun or interesting fight but anyone who somehow didn't beat that mission first try is legitimately braindead
>>586533523The person you're talking to thinks you need to slink around with the fleet, as if you're 'defending them' and waiting for the Ladons to come back around.When in reality the whole mission is a chase, you're meant to catch up but just barely, and gun them when you can.Get the relevant speed and gun parts for your airplane, and that's it. That's the mission.
>>586533760>you're meant to catch upExcept you can't unless they slow down, retard.
>>586533878Skill.Issue.You can catch up right after they blow up the baker squadron or whatever they're called.
>>586532031The only other game I can think of right now thats designed as badly as AC8 online is Wardogs. Who puts starter planes against end game planes and thinks that's fun?
>>586533270>WHY AREN'T PEOPLE REPLAYING A 15 HOUR CAMPAIGNSo its about $45 short on content
>>586534014>Who puts starter planes against end game planes and thinks that's fun?War ThunderWell, not quite that extreme, but you do get to be raped in the ass by mach 2 UFOs in your korean war subsonic shitbox and you do get to fight spitfires in your ww1 biplane
>>586534426you do realize that a majority of AC7's sales were because it was on sale, right? AC8 cleared a million copies at full price, the franchise is fine. It's primarily a campaign based game anyways. AC9 will come out after AC8 campaign DLC and about 20 DLC planes for the whales, same as always.
>>586534447That's a terrible comparison because even War Thunder has tiers
>>586534930>Anon thinks I'm going to take his pseudo analysis seriously >Same guy who thinks having no tiers in online is good game design You're dumb lmao
>>586523164it's literally in 8 days or so, delaying it now would be ridiculous
>>586534952Yeah, War Thunder has tiers and it loves to mix them so many players get hopelessly destroyed by higher tier planes
I have a question for the tech savvy: What is the main culprit behind that small delay/hitching which causes FPS drops when switching from FP to Cockpit view and how would I disable or at least dampen it?
>>586535124You clearly have not played War Thunder is ages, the tiers are solid
>>586535245>the tiers are solidThe BR compression isn't
Also now that the patch is out I can say that my RAM usage stabilizes around ~26.4 GB which is a decrease of about 4 gigs. My page file is still set to 32GB though so maybe I can roll it back now idk.
2 months after AC8 ends the experiment that uploads Dision's mind happens, meaning the enso network is part of the electrosphere
>>586536992The Electrosphere was probably built from the remains of EnsoNet or some shit
I think electrosphere is getting retconned. It's like the one thing that's glaringly stupid and adds nothing but "oooooo~ spooky cyberspace".Nobody is scared of the Internet anymore, not even people who watch Black Mirror.
>>586525573Based and fuck metaslavefaggotry-pilledI largely share the same sentiments except my planefu is the F-16. I put it in park ever since I got it to 15 to round out my roster a bit. I'm also experimenting with the F-18C at high levels because I'm curious about some of its unique abilities like the high altitude spec>>586522507Well said. Japs take inspiration from Western works more often than the average weeb would believe but everyone's so poisoned by culture war politics, they automatically assume that influence is a bad thing, I.e. "woke" etc.>>586518976Air Force Delta Strike maybe one of the most underrated games period. Love that the official character design was helmed by the great Tsukasa Jun.
>>586537568>unique abilities like the high altitude specIt's not unique, several planes have it.Short practical answer is it increases maneuverability gradually between 500 - 1000 km
>Can you take it all away?>Can you take it all away?>Well, you shoved it in my face>This pain you gave to meChopper and Coster would have gotten well toghether.
If anyone cares, I made some progress on my tasha reconstruction.
>>586538654robocop coded post
>>586537560Its just the strangereal version of the internet but better, and AC3 was just a simulation, the only scary part is sentient AIs that can hack into any device.You can retcon most of AC3 as long as there is a corporate war and Nemo kills Dision, would be absolutely hilarious if Nemo is one of your squadmates and he suddenly goes apeshit over an enemy/ally F-22C -Abyssal- that is not even relevant to the mission
>>586538472I was obsessed with this song and video back thenhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDoPfMFlLu4
>>586535228Probably the loading of the plane/cockpit model. Its simply not rendered in the HUD view. Lowering graphics in general would lower the effect.
https://youtu.be/mj2z9d9vOvkWhich relationship in AC is best represented by this song?
>>586539023Official VGMVs, oh how I miss those. Heres my favshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJZFLeYJrn0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2tlwSuKARo
big boi benrir
>>586538695I don't know what that means
>>586539398nagase and war
>>586539398kate and ray
>>586539814>significantly bigger than the already xboxhuge FlankerF A T
>>586538654Nice work. Can't wait to see her being headpatted
Huh really is a case that new artwork is depicting Tasha as younger and younger each time.
>>586539814I love the cockpit design, it reminds me of the nomad vehicles in CP77, but man, the rest of it is just hideous. Just a few minor tweaks would do wonders.
>>586538884That would be so perfect that there's no way it'll happen
I don't see the hype for Hortus Regis Alti
shadow 22 squadron is braindead easy now even on ace, pretty crazy how a pretty tough fight is now just a joke. they should've kept the infinite flares on ace only or some shit idk feels too simple just spamming QAAMs or regulars to beat them
>>586544962should've given them the ACO Scramble flares to compensate
>>586544962Did they extend the time limit of the fight at all or just completely lobotomize the Shadows? The fight isn't hard, it's just bullshit because the pace of combat required for guns-only is so long and reliant on positioning that EVERY time I played the mission, the thing that would hang me up is Dealer randomly deciding that the fight was over and that I lost.Feels incredibly fair to be told that I lost as I'm in the process of getting Toprak into the gunsight. This is the only thing that PA fucked up with in the fight, I believe.
>numberfag theory crafting in the build planner>mig-29a gets cute HCAA and HPAA, which while not meta in 8 were both fun in 7's online>4 Arms slots, so you can double up on MSL homing and SPW homing parts>both HCAAs and HPAAs get homing abilities>with the 10% Fighter Bonus and the 20% from Anti Air Ability, the Fulcrum's HCAAs should be able to doubletap any player plane>HPAAs uninvested will oneshot any player plane>even without low speed/medium speed abilities, a Fulcrum's turn rate is about on par with the F-16's at slow dogfighting speeds (<600)Since I already have and like my Falcon I guess I know what I'm spending my next 30 gold blueprints on. This dumb thing's about to be the most honoraburu dogfighter in warfare, because nobody's getting hit by a MSL/HCAA/HPAA unless they're just outright outplayed.
It's a good thing mission 30 has a nice, big, grandiose banger of a song so there's at least something entertaining happening while you intercept missiles and wait for radio exposition to be over
>>586547364Against players, I think HCAA works best as a pressure weapon; you're not expecting them to hit, but HCAA+MSL will hopefully force your target to burn enough energy that they can eat your other SpW (HPAA/SASM/QAAM). HCAA+4AAM is pretty fun on the F-15C in rare PvE situations where LAAMs haven't sniped everything first, like Scrambles or Emergency Sorties.
what is project aces' obsession with not making the most dramatic mission the last oneAC7 had daredevil and AC8 had mission 28 which were followed up by mediocre missions
>>586548293>Megalith>SOLG>Pixy>Chandelier>obsessionBro is blowing things out of proportion
I like that the Growler is now objectively better at EW'ing than the Barricader WITHOUT spending 60 Generals to get ECM, it's a small but nice consolation for the Growler having the same upgrade costs. IEWS/ESM/ECM are still powerful but no longer as obscenely game changing with such short uptime and such long refractory periods, so for the investment costs you might as well get the better EW plane or a good top tier Fighter/Multirole instead of the quickshot Barricader and its disappointing secondary SPWs.
>>586547364>>586548229No one mentions that HCAA have a really powerful quirk in that they launch from the rack already at speed and tracking, unlike all other specials that drop for a split second then launch forward. It's incredibly good at catching people off guard.
>>586548753>mfw didn't spend anything on EA-36 because I knew it was gonna get slammed by the nerf hammer
should i get the X-40 or EA-36 first
trying to do an F-4 run on AC04, holy shit this plane cant turn
>>586549239X-40 so you can get the armor part
>>586549239EA-36 will help out on your EW only run if you plan on doing that soon. Otherwise get the X-40 solely so you can grab the Armor part afterwards.
>>586452467nuclear option designs look so ugly lol
>>586549239FA-36 > EA-36 > X-40
>>586549418Thats just a chubby gripen
>>586518385
>>586549254I believe in you.
>>586502658speaking of gears and UE>Gears of War wants me to update my drivers>Ace Combat wants me to roll backwhat the fuck is going on with Nvidia and UE5?
>>586549613When two vibe coding regimes come together, nobody wins.
>>586549162>had both the Growler and Barricader at level 15>decided to put 30 goldprints into the Barricader to max it out first>mfw I should've invested in Growlercoin
>>586549882>invested in EW after they already announced EW would be nerfedYou did this to yourself
>>586549996I did this before the announcements and didn't feel like blowing another 30 on the other plen when I could spend it on something else, but the writing was on the wall anyway.
13gig patch and they still can't fix the shitty failure to connect bug without playing campaign first
>>586549561thats what i said, ugly
>>586548229>in rare PvE situations where LAAMs haven't sniped everything firstThis is so rare that you should literally never expect it to happen.
>>586550465Oh yeah, my Eagle is useless in Assault. One time I got MVP at Shilage Castle because everyone else brought a ground pounder, but beyond that I may as well AFK in Assault. Enemies in Scrambles seem to actually dodge LAAMs from max range sometimes, even if via their broken ass flares.
Would you a land battleship?
>>586552021Repeatedly and with much vigor.I bet her insides are like a furnace
>Knight cheevo has like 19% player>Merc cheevo only has 11%I thought everyone would go for Merc first since you'd want to stock up on cash early game, why is everyone doing knight instead?
>>586552106this isn't the air fryer one
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>>586552403Humans are inherently kind and hopepilled
>>586552590It’s a Welsh thing
>>586552403Historcially most gamers go for the "good" routes. I think Bioware's statistics for the Mass Effect trilogy were 70/30 Paragon/Renegade.
>>586546627Far from the first time that they've failed to provide an in-universe reason for the time limit. I think all they did was change the number of flares each of them gets.
God, rocket pods fucking SUCK. Easily the worst ground SpW
>>586552590kill all 8 guntowers
>>586552590Underworld of welsh mythology. Check out The Mabinogion and look into Cŵn Annwn, basically hellhounds.
>>586552670>>586552783I thought you'd go with the canon route first
>>586552851Simply a matter of skill
>>586552675>>586552993it was funnier when I thought someone had had a stroke while typing AWWNB
what to spend my next 20 prints on?>berkut 15 to 20>f16 15 to 20>f15e 10 to 15also post hangars
>>586553283Strike Eagle needs your love
>>586553283where the fuck is your Su34?
>>586553283Strike Eagle, to dunk on Alicorn harder and rely less on randos pulling their weight.
>>586553215Yeah, I think we all cottoned on to your thought, but also all found it funnier to just give you the actual intel instead of pointing it out.
>>586553283Gripen a cuteBut objectively mudhen
If I'm close to getting a Su-34 to 20, is it worthwhile to invest in the Strike Eagle, or just get a Su-25?
>>586553283>have a lv 20 Growler>and a lv 10 BarricaderWhat is the point of this?
>>586553767The only reason to pick F15E over SU34 is for the boss killing, I'd just get SU25 since it's the cheaper F15E and you don't really need maneuverability since Alicorn and Chandelier is slow anyway
>>586553406>>586553530>>586553641Strike eagle it is then>>586553791I got the barricader very early and felt dirty using it. Also I prefer the growler abilities and the way it looks
>>586552021I was thinking about Balios burning the other day, and it got me wondering if it having the potential to become a furnace deathtrap was a feature rather than a design flaw? DD said that Enso didn't know how the battleships' tech worked, but that could have just been the Theve branch of Enso being ignorant. If the battleships were Enso tech alongside the Spears, Game, and X-40, then the end-goal might have been a fully automated battle force.Consider for a moment that Enso was attempting to pull off an Ozymandias to destroy national borders. They back Sotoa as a fall-guy during the opening stages of the conflict when there is still a chance that the plan might fail. They provide the fancy technology and bait Sotoan high command in with visions of grandeur. But ultimately Enso will rugpull Sotoa once Balios checkmates the planet with the constellation of Spears. It would be very easy for Enso to completely remove "Sotoa" form the playing field and replace them with a puppet force of automated weapon systems. The rest of the world would be too busy reeling from spear strikes to notice things like:>Fatsia's reactor going critical on its own and decapitating sotoan high command. Especially if the factories are automated and the radiation just kills the inhabitants.>the battleships locking their hatches and cooking the crew>the fly by wire systems on the Games rejecting pilot input, climbing to altitude, and asphyxiating the pilots.In a matter of minutes Enso could completely eliminate the crown jewels of the Sotoan armed forces and replace them the perfect 100% controlled opposition force. An enemy that will remain an ever present threat for humanity to rally and fight against, but also one that you can be sure will never actually win.
>>586553283You HARLOT
why did she point the laser at the ship instead of at the ocean
>>586555632sacrifices must be madeotherwise she'd just be some larper
>>586555632Big boom looks cooler than big splash
>>586555709I love that even in their final moments Sotoan nobility still manage to be shitheels. Wish the game registered your input in her Solomon hand out scene so that pressing guns gibbed her.
>>586528816You get 1 for sortieing in a level 20 plane,and a chance at 1 for non-scrambles/emergencies,see: https://ac8-database.pages.dev/online/missions/
if u use anything other than f22 endgame you are anti-american
>>586555925I... don't know where the word 'Solomon' came from. I'm fairly certain I didn't type it.
>>586556062And that's a good thing.
>>586556062And if you use anything other than the F-4E, you’re unAmerican and also have bad taste
>>586556062Fuck Osea, other than Nagase where the fuck were they when Sotoa invaded?
>>586556073It made me think you were referencing some scene from Gundam 0083 that I was failing to recall
Now that ECM has been chopped to a third, is Deathmatch actually fun now?
>>586556319No. Deathmatch is never fun.
>>586556237>half of Usea sides with Erusea during their Lighthouse chimpout>their most competent and beloved captain nearly nukes Oured>butthurt Belkan/Erusean scientists help hijack half the Osean satnet which eventually leads to a Kessler scenario>wtf why doesn't Osea help out during the next Usean shitshow??????
just 2 more runs and im done
The real reason why Osea didn't help is because they were in on Enso Order's plans.
>>586556257Sadly outside of the 1995 anime when it aired, the only media I've watched of it has been Build Divers and BD Re:Rise.
>>586556684Only if they let Enso lead the whole restoration plan, if they take control on everything (like they usually do) it should be fine and we won't get corpo'd
>>586556635Do you have to do the no damage/gun only ones all in one go or can you from mission select
>>586475787what is this niggers major malfunction
>>586557023AC4fags, they are always this bitter when you tell them Ace Combat is not about recycled annihilation missions
>>586557019You gotta do a whole campaign. Don't do gun only with attacker, the ladon will filter you.
>>586557023Video essayists are all autistic and self-absorbed enough to think their shit smells good. It's an essential prerequisite to record, edit, and post a fucking hour's long youtube video about a funny plen game.
>>586557375As a general rule, a YouTube video longer than half an hour from a channel with less than 10k subs is going to be giga terrible, largely for the reasons you've outlined. And that was before every dumbass with an AI subscription could AI generate a script, a voiceover, and ill fitting images to go with it.
Is a guns only run reasonably doable without abusing checkpoints or an infinite ammo difficulty? Or should I just wait for PLSL to be DLC? Asking for a friend
>>586557814The only trouble for gun runs are battleships, get close to them and you're just going to be full of holes, and surprisingly Tewy, she's actually a good and fun fight when you don't get to use missiles
What is the drop tank for
>>586558116aura and no, I'm not kidding
https://streamable.com/z9dj3k>>586557814I believe so, but you would need to be really good with guns and it doesn't sound very fun.
what is Dealer's response if you reply 'Yes' when he said his strategy is dogshit in mission 20?
>guns only run>decide to whip out the Mig-21 with MGP to double up the fighter only run>forget that campaign restricts player to carrier-only aircraft on certain missions>oh well F-4E also has MGP>mfw I realize F-4E hasn't been carrier viable sincle PS2 eraWhich aircraft did you guys use in this situation?
>>586557814I did fighter only gun run on ace. Ladons were the only mission where I crutched with checkpoints, mostly because I really didn't want to keep replaying the first three minutes where you have to wait for Banker to die and the fleet to get hit. Use your allies to take out ships since they have innate gun resist, and look for things to chain explode.
>>586558186>infinite GUN and MSLI rationally feel irrationally angry seeing it>>586558301Nobody nose because nobody wood choose Yes
>>586558367There's not a great amount of carrier fighters, your only choices are the Tomcats and the Game. First missions are easy enough since the airships and podarges aren't too tanky, mission 26 you gotta have your wingmen sink the fleet or else you're gonna need to use the return line a lot.
>>586481706That's not the point you bad faith retard. If the game’s just going to ignore the briefing and throw curveballs anyway, then the briefing is pointless. It doesn’t “prepare” you, it just wastes your time with a long speech that doesn’t match what’s about to happen. Who cares about paying attention when the actual mission does whatever it wants. Stage of the Apocalypse in Zero is the worst version of this.
>>586558186>Ray has crippling imposter syndromeI just thought of a fanfic idea.
>>586558367I just used the game and did my best. Get your wingmen good SPWs.
So where does that 12 GBs go?
>>586559227Replacing large files. The game's total size won't grow by 12GB
>>586559227integrated to the game, in reality it's just a few mb patch but well you know, UE5 gotta UE5
>>586559227Topkek quite indulged himself in wings
Patch notes???????
>>586559989lots of nerfing here and there for what I see
Yo, how's the PC version of Zero? Haven't seen much about it and Zero is the only one of the PS2 games i haven't played.
>>586560701It's great, more of a recomp than a port. Just like old times.
>>586560701it's finejust one strange thingit comes with xbox controller key legend
>intruder is the only carrier attacker
>>586560701It's fine, I pirated it.
>>586552106Balios is the toasty one
>>586560892Are ADA-01 and FB-22 carrier planes? maybe we could use that instead later
>>586560701it runs
>>586560892It sucks but it works well enough.>mission 3 is easy because it's early game>mission 10 is also early game, use commands to help allies intercept attackers and dumbfire lasms into airships at point blank range to kill them faster>mission 11 gun the podarge cockpits/cargo racks, then slowly pick off the foxhound shadows that are zooming around>mission 12 shoot helos for collateral kills on lcacs and lasm the ones that don't have them, keep afterburners on to keep up with the palletized cruise missiles>mission 26 lasm the fleet and gun the shit out of Tewy as she makes her dive
>>586562519>lasm the fleetwhy? just use the UGBL
>>586562905Completely forgot it had UGBs. Yeah, just use those.
>>586560792>>586560924>>586561151Nice, thanks.>>586560869I'm play with a gamepad so that's actually good for me.
>>586561053No and no.There is no hope.
>>586564394>gamepadno that's okit displays xbox blips even for dualsenses and what have youthat's my point
>>586564449What's the point of making DLCs if you're not going to sell planes? Battlepass skins will not carry shit, I assure you that.
>>586564582I mean, they might do that. But the Adler and the FB still aren't naval planes.
>>586560892>mfw watching people try to do challenge runs that already struggled with passing normal difficulty missions, let alone S-ranking anythingTruly magical.
>>586564748>But the Adler and the FB still aren't naval planes.oh for fuck sake
>>586565032It's stupidly easy to S rank missions in 8, tho.
>>586556237Retrofitting a carrier into a hospital ship so the FCU could retrofit it back into a carrier without getting the Yukes involved
>>586565302And yet, you would not know that from watching the majority of streamers that CFIT as often as they shack a TGT. It's morbidly fascinating. Like watching a retarded mouse go in circles in a cheese maze. "Surely, this time they'll make it into the tunn- , ah, no, thirsty plane yet again."
>>586565628Give me a good example of these dumb streamers, I need entertainment.
If belka is really hell bent on being prime instigator, why didn't they leak an info about Hrimfaxi being in Estovakian waters so those losers would join in the furball? Hell why not instigate Sotoa into fighting Yukes again? They don't seem to optimize their trolling strat.
Is su37 the only plane in PW that has FOUR standard missiles on standby instead of TWO? How can you even tell which ones have 4 and which ones have 2? At first I thought it's because it only has 2 weapon slots but that wasn't it.Also, why does "f22" exist when "f15" mogs it in every way? Including the armaments. Tomcat is somehow still the most balanced plane, allowing you either take 2xMLAAs or 2xUGBLs and that's on top of having HISMs. Every other plane is either shit or REALLY good for one particular task, except you rarely have to deal with air-to-air or air-to-ground only situations, outside of missions like cold war.
>>586560892This is the only reason I have no interest in doing the attacker only medal. I can't tell whether it's an oversight or intentional. It's only 6 missions but I just hate flying the intruder it feels like complete shit. I guess you could do it on pilot or something but even then.
>>586565754>Iwhy didn't they leak an info about Hrimfaxi being in Estovakian waters so those losers would join in the furball?Stovies too busy killing each other to bother with some ships that aren't looking to start shit, and most factions were probably friendly towards the Yukes anyway.>Hell why not instigate Sotoa into fighting Yukes again?Soats got btfo hard during their war, doubtful they had much of a military left to attack them with.
>>586565979superior mann, pitch part and speed, that should make it more bearable
>>586565979>getting filtered by five missions in a silly planeThe Intruder's really not that had buddy, especially since you can put parts on it unlike in mission 14.
>>586566084>Stovies too busy killing each other to bother with some ships that aren't looking to start shit, and most factions were probably friendly towards the Yukes anyway.There's still Emmeria, they could fearmonger that the burst missiles flying around could hit Gracemeria. Seeing Talisman and his goons teaching Yukes a lesson would be something
>>586566284>EmmeriaThey got North Point'd by Estovakians after those dudes had been killing each other in a never ending civil war and had a basically nonexistent economy. You want them to fight a proper superpower with multiple superweapons?
>>586565687none I saw from scrolling around, been a month now so normalfags have moved on, but there are some preserved clips on youtubehttps://youtube.com/shorts/sGs6iTNIfgU
>>586566571all they need is their power of friendship, honestly for Belka, seeing a country completely crash and burn is the best case scenario, so yes, they want to see that.
>>586566253>filteredEh it's more of an "i don't feel like it because the intruder sucks and it's not fun" than any kind of skill issue. >>586565760I think vanilla it is. I downloaded a rebalance mod so long ago that I've forgotten. The vanilla plane balance is pretty fucking bad.
>>586566761The amount of key jingling in that video was bizarre. Who watches shit like this.
>>5865607015kb jpg roundels on max settings
>>586566640Tally ho
Sundowner livery? RACISM! Ban that mod!https://youtu.be/XDeaJ-jsOqE
>>586565687I'm not him and I don't know what streamers he watches but I remember it took Luna an extremely long time on the Fatsia reactor which isn't even remotely hard.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww3CjqrlhZwFatsia reactor attack starts at 2:25:45.Fatsia attack finishes at 2:38:15.That's over ten minutes of crash crash crash crash on maybe the easiest tunnel in the series. A tunnel that's so easy most people probably wouldn't even include it in a list of Ace Combat tunnels.A lot of people are really really bad at these games.
>>586567048Sorry, but your Nazi Swastika is not "more historical", it's a hate symbol.
>>586566915Not me, I don't watch much livestream stuff at all, but my eagerness to consume Ace Combat 8 content was overwhelming.
>>586567048Sundowner? The guy who likes minors? Good riddance
>>586565687https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0r5RaNbSC3o4 billion subs btw
>HE'S HANDLING ME LIKE A HATCHLING DAM-
>>586567238Red Sun is a good boss fight song though.
>>586567373that I can't deny, if it didn't end like 10 seconds because you parried his whole HP bar just once to oblivion
>>586567238>>586567195>take symbol of enemy>cut it in half>make it a mockery of their rising sun themeCool as hell.
>>586567048Moderators being based for once?
>>586567048As someone whose relatives died fighting Japan, I'm glad this shit isn't tolerated.
>>586567313>nuggets are dying left and right>this dude is like "wow this is kinda hard"fucking kek
>>586567470Frame it however you want, it's like saying the N word but using a retarded excuse like it gives you a pass.
>>586567569well the nuggets aren't the only one on chopping block, you are too, might as well focus on yourself first.
>>586567195>>586567481>>586567550>>586567674Unironic fags
>>586567674what
>>586567674Nigger
>>586567470you have to go back redditking
>>586567742I mean i just love how nonchalant he sounds when the nuggets are yelling bloody murder in the background. The contrast is great, noobs vs veteran.
Ace Combat 04 sucks.
>>586567838I genuinely have no idea what you're talking about.
>>586567195>>586567238>>586567481>>586567550>>586567674Kys snowflakes
>>586568048Going to be so funny when the orange fool gets impeached tomorrow.
<< can't have you joining me just yet >>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXm-sV2KknU
>>586568101>implying i'm american>implying i'd vote for trump if i was americanFucking retard
>>586568048You have to use AI on an inherently left series because you can't create anything on your own worth value.
>>586568281>I was only PRETENDING to be a retarded nazi
Man, am I missing some context about the VF-111 squadron actually being racists, or is this all just shitposting?
I'll say it again. ACE COMBAT OH-FOUR SUCKS MASSIVE COCKS
Man, are you braindead or something? Must hurt pretending to be retarded all the time.
>>586568101>>586568368I'd be willing to bet you're a fucking leaf
I want Kate to recreate this very specific thumbnail
>>586568568Jealous?
>>586568308>>586568368You guys are fucking out of your minds, typical american leftists. Or perhaps leafs like the other anon said.>>586568621Enjoying all those jeets and housing prices, leafbro' ?
>>586568396I think we got a non-native trying to stir some shit up, for whatever ungodly reason. Could be low effort bait, could be some misguided sod trying to virtue signal on the website that gave us pool's closed and other such adventures, regardless it's obviously not a buddy and should get out.Fuck off Pixy, the electrosphere needs borders.
CERTEPER CAEULM VOLAESTO LIBEROH, ESTO LIBER
>>586565979I just wish it wasn't so slow
>>586568731Thank fuck, I thought I was losing my mind. I looked up VF-111 controversies but the only thing that came up was some pilots getting in trouble for shenanigans involving harmlessly tying two officers to poles as a prank in 1992.
>>586568101you've been saying this for 10 years
>be an attacker, give rest of squad fighters>"UM I DON'T THINK THAT WORKS FOR A GROUND ATTACK MISSION">I'll be doing 99% of damage anyway
>>586567048Even if it were the rising sun with rays, that's still the Japanese naval ensign to this day. People just associate it with WW2 because their navy was all the Allies saw of them during the war. So basically Nexus is saying the Japanese navy is banned, even the modern one.
>>586565979I love that little shitbox, thing handles like a bag of milk without any upgrades.You can make it bearable by just loading it with nothing but maneuverability parts, the low speed is tolerable to me at least.
>>586569918I'm just annoyed that they'll let troons keep their mods but pull this shit. Then again I'm more along that line of "anything goes" when it comes to modding.
>>586568308>an inherently left seriesThe series is not "inherently left," nowhere fucking close.You're just a childlike narcissist who projects yourself onto whatever media you enjoy because you couldn't understand the world otherwise.Go away.
>>586567674
>>586567834excellent post
>>586570319Usually the people saying this didn't take the hint when Pixy's response to losing was essentially "My utopia will never be achievable. I guess I have a lot to learn about the importance of borders."
>New mainline game barely even a month old>Thread full of baiting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwhn9iLd2jA
I guess with a few parts this thing isn't 100% intolerable. Also hilarious that they clearly never intended for you to be able to see your co-pilot.
>>586568126I've seen gore that upsets me less than this audio does, Christ alive what an awful way to go.>>586568578Based BionicleChad.
>>586570879Now do the whole game in it in cockpit mode
>>586552808For M28, I think the logic is:>Shadows tie up Joker flight for too long>Joker don't have enough time to refuel+rearm then head to Theve>With no-one else around to intercept Tewy (since so many squadrons went to Cima Island), Land Battleship 1 gets Speared with zero resistanceThat being said, there's a good few hours between M28 and M29, and Joker have enough time to land at Snider's Top (or White Valley, I get them mixed up), get briefed, and potentially redeploy in new aircraft. Meanwhile there's only an hour between Joker stopping Tewy, returning to base, another briefing, and deploying again to save the Endurance.
>>586570879told you so, some movement parts and it's more than flyable, unlike mission 14
>>586570879Too erotic for me.
>parktake in online's worst mode, warfare, to do the daily just for the supply ticket that MIGHT be useful in the future if they ever have a crate that isn't full of energy drink vomit paint schemes.>everybody is hovering fighters>swap to fullback since somebody needs to ground pound>game-nigger swaps to a loadout that runs SOD>proceeds to use SOD to waste soft target killsfifth column nigger. Fuck this gay ass mode. It has the most one-dimensional meta in existence and it's still too hard for randoms to wrap their head around.
>>586571315I mean, I do that anyway so I'll probably do it with the few missions I need to use it. >>586571418I still don't like it, but it's not unflyable.
>>586567834>Nigger
>>586567834
Why does the online F-35 have two anti-air abilities when it carries 2 A2G SPWs?
>>586571462This is why I always lock in last in Warfare. Every time I lock in Attacker straight away, someone else will pick it as well and one of us gets reamed by Fighters because we don't have enough air cover.That being said, to my knowledge the 'ideal' team comp of one Attacker and rest on Fighters/EW isn't well known yet, even if the current player base is already small.
>>586571462I have a dream, one day, that ACEO will be fun, so anons of all timezones will actually -want- to play and team up to use their favorite plens
>>586572036HCAA go brrrr
>>586572036Assuming the two Lv1 abilities stack to give the Lv2 version, the damage multiplier only goes from 1.3 to 1.4; it's a waste of a slot. Different story if Lv1 applies twice to give 1.6 or 1.69.
>>586572098ah, yespump up those A2A stats so you can use a bad missile and miss all your shots
>>586572309Skissue tbqh
>>586572473if someone is retarded enough to get got by HCAAs then you might as well gun kill them because they have the situational awareness of a white NPC target
>>586572719They're not nearly that bad, anon.
>>586572073>Change assault mode>4 players. The same team>The NPC targets are ~30x more challenging than the mission 3 difficulty shit that we currently get.>get bombarded by assorted super weapons
The other day, on Warfare in Waiapolo Mountains, I saw the enemy team had a F-35 as their groundpounder, and they cleared all their ground wavesPretty neato to multirole if Su-34 is overkill on some Warfare maps, since F-35 has mucho stealth too
>>586572036>>586572270If you take it twice you do the same damage to air as a fighter with a single instance of it.It's a good idea because it means you can still be pretty good against ground by spamming LACM/8AGM but are way more useful than a multirole during the mission updates that are almost always air, and if there happen to be a lot of people playing ground so you run out of targets early.I've had too many times when I'm forced to play air as attacker in coop and I don't like it so now I use F-35 as my coop ground plane. I'm not as good at ground as a Su-34 or F-2 spamming boosted UGB but I'm still good enough, and I never get hit with "there are no ground targets right now so I fucking suck" like they do. Also I fly much better and don't have the stupid down pointing attacker gun so those are bonuses. Also F-35 doesn't get any other good abilities aside from the ammo one so there's no reason not to take both anyway.>>586572098Yeah don't do that, be attacker that can also hit air instead.
I hope LAAMs get gutted as hard as ECM was.
So which parts for SFFS and SOD are better? Blast radius or the other one? I know ideally you'd just run them both.
>>586573031You can get map clears as F-35 but it's a struggle. If everyone leaves you alone you can make it, but if the other team pressures you then it's pretty hard. Probably better to use an attacker in warfare since UGB(L) is so good.
one thing i noticed in a game just now, if you get the medal for coming to the rescue of somebody you get blueprints for that plane
>>586573520I think Level 2 for both is standard. F-15E and Su-25 both only have 2 Arms slots, so the diminishing returns of getting 15/17 bomblets instead of 14/16 bomblets is less useful than giving those 14/16 bomblets a bigger blast radius.
>>586573850ew metric
>>586573940Only one country has ever landed a person on the moon, and we used metric to do it. But more importantly it's the default unit setting.
>he believes the moonlanding was realWhat kind of retards am I sharing this general with, Jesus......
>>586574040And what system of measurements does that country's airplanes use?
Bet he loves Ace Combat 4 as well. Thinks it's the best in the series or something.
>>586574127French fries and hamburgers.
>>586574218I'm happy to eat both.
What happened to stuck on mission 5 anon?Did he ever beat it? Is he now stuck on mission 6?
>>586574040>Only one country has ever landed a person on the moonImagine still believing this fairy tale.
I ain't baking. You do it.
Does the dialogue switch to saying knots instead of meters if you use knots? I'm guessing knot
>doubting Nagase's space dreamsObviously we've been to the moon. The first Apollo programs were a cover for a series of battles fought to keep the Galaxians from invading Earth. The new cold war and the race to Mars is just a cover to get funding for and to send an assault team to attack the Galaxian remnant base before they can rebuild their strength.EGSF is not Strangereal history, it's Earth's.
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>>586576012So I really don't get how railgun damage is calculated, sometimes it hits you for 1% damage, and sometimes you get oneshotted or 90% HP, what the fuck are the calcs and mechanics for these things? I don't fucking get it, I fucked up a few runs because I underestimated these things but most of the time they do no damage?
>>586576213direct hits do big damageaftershocks do little damage
>>586576376There's an aftershock? I thought whenever I got hit I got it clean
>>586576376So mysterious
>>586568101He already has been, retard.
>>586574524okay>>586577231>>586577231>>586577231
>>586560892They should've gotten us the F-111.
