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>News, Dev Blogposts & Podcast
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/

>Patch Notes
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-october-26/2360696/8

>Talent Calculator
https://wowforevertalents.com/

>Dates
Name Reservations open now for skyborne pack purchasers.
The journey begins on November 4

>"What ruleset are you going for" wowfg poll
https://poal.me/iqg9uh

>Upcoming /wowfg/ NA Guilds
<Clover Club> RP-PvP Alliance | https://discord.gg/Zn2uWkkpbc
<Remigration> PvP Horde | https://discord.gg/K9QgFCzxf
<Fourchan Guild> PvP Alliance | Discordless

>Upcoming /wowfg/ EU Guilds
<Wrench> PvE Horde | https://discord.gg/mVPNFmXp5
<Fourchan Guild> PvP Alliance | Discordless

previously on >>586418142
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>>586451420
>as long as it arbitrarily isn't in a dungeon, killing creatures in a group of 5 people to level is ok
this thing is cooked, absolutely cooked
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first for streamers are gigantic faggots
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>>586451368
sweats: anybody who has more time to play and anyone who is more skilled than me at the game I claimed to play for 20 years. Anyway I wont be minmaxing and I will probably take half a year to reach 60 because I have 37 swing shifts at the factory where I work did I also mention i have a wife and kids now and I have 30 minutes a week to play also did i mention im rolling on the PVP-RP server? I wont be rolling on the PvP server because I have to take hour long breaks inbetween my 30 minute gaming session (wife approved) and I dont want som sweaty loser nerd killing me while I have to go afk. Thanks guys and hope to see ya'll on the Rp-PvP realms and of course RP realms

I will also be playing paladin most likely ret
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AAAAGGGGGGGGGRRRRREENNNNDDDDD!!!!!!!
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How do we convince the developers to do this
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>rolling on pve
lol scrub
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What is your favorite thing about The Noticer? I think I like how handsome he is the most
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>>586451654
that his actual face or is this shooped?
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>>586451620
I graciously accept your permanent and total dogeza cuckold surrender and will graciously let you be a buyer in my boostgod raid.
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is this an accurate proportion of realms across rulesets?
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>>586451664
what problem do you have? how did your retarded ass even install linux? just launch it through steam like everyone else you fag
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>>586451654
>handsome
Made me laugh
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>>586451654
they're calling it the longest face in history
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>>586451704
he probably has had facial surgery to look this good but no its not shopped
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>>586451654
Young Asmongold
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>>586451756
How do you get this screen? I just select normal rules set and start creating characters.
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OGRES
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>>586451760
The great amerikike rape will begin and it won't stop.
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>go to /wowg/
>it's literally, unironically, entirely, just full of AI porn dumping and forever seething
what's going on over there
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>>586451654
He looks like that bassist youtuber.
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>>586451891
The mother of all furries
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How's shadow priest looking? I thought I was locked in to feral druid but now we're only a few days out I'm getting cold feet
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Why dont all these hordies who need to join a discord to make their PvP character just roll on Normal
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>>586451959
Why are you here? This is an American game.
Are you just mad daddy-America is not feeding you enough cummies through your bummies? Poor little faggot ...
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>>586452031
whitemane whitemane whitemane whitemane whitemane whitemane whitemane whitemane whitemane whitemane whitemane whitemane whitemane whitemane whitemane whitemane whitemane whitemane whitemane whitemane whitemane whitemane whitemane whitemane whitemane
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>>586452168
are people seriously using discord to know when horde pvp gets unlocked?
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>>586452198

she can make my champion arise
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>>586451756
RP-PvE bros... our response??
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>>586452031
Are we that different though?
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>>586452031
>>586452198
we need more slop porn here too
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Class for this feel?
https://litter.catbox.moe/51i5tx4ikt6vtmxg.mp4
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>>586452262
yes
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How do I just stop caring about getting ganked and embrace the PvP ruleset? I want to play with friends rolling there. I just don't care to gank people myself, so all I really stand to get from this is having my time wasted.
I do enjoy PvP and I'm not bad at it, I just don't relish being fucked with while I'm trying to do my thing (whatever that may be).
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>>586452270
Just don't care, it's that simple
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>>586452198
I remember I had this pic someone made of her and a few female scarlet crusaders in lingerie having a threesome, hot shit desu but pretty sure it was lost on one of my old pcs
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>>586452198
At your side m'lady!
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Can my shit run this at 1080p at medium? I wanna see and masturbate in the new light rays.

I just bought this setup off a kid for cheap, first real gaming comp.
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>>586452338
you are such a fucking pussy-bitch it's actually making me angry. just go play a different game entirely you sissy.
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>>586452338
play on RP-PvP and put out a hit on them in the servers newspaper with gold reward
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>pvp orc demolock
Yep, it's gaming time.
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>>586452451
>he cares about graphics
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>>586451639
make your own game
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>>586452508
the world buff thing was actual digital cyanide
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>>586452508
How long did this take you in MS paint, anon?
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>>586452652
That pic has been around since 2019 classic
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>>586452597
You have no idea how close that is.
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>>586452508
this image still makes gups mad
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>>586451368
>filename

Kek, took me a split sec
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Would you want a re-actualized Monk class in Forever if they got rid of the Panda and Oriental design philosophy slop?
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I leveled prot warrior in turtle wow. Aside from being able to tank the occasional dungeon while leveling i noticed that the class was still quite slow while questing. It would take a lot of effort to kill more than a few mobs at a time. Stuff like world buffs and potions were needed to "feel strong" questing. Tell me one thing. Is classic plus prot warrior supposed to be slow in the spirit of classic or should it be a viable quick questing experience like what arms or fury are touted to be?
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>>586452464
Seethe, freak.
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>>586452571
>tauren survival hunter
>plainsrunning works in battlegrounds
>warstomp for disengage
moo bitch get out the way
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>>586452313
warlock
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>>586451654
>>586451880
Apparently he dies some videos in a public conference room/ office space
Imagine having to to do your daily wage cage while listening to this guy talk about blood elves for an hour
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>>586452780
Anon...its still oriental
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>>586452780
holy yes. mistweaver monk is by far the funnest healing class this game has ever had. something similar in classic would go crazy
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>>586452818
you are literally the bitch seething while pretending you are doing mental gymnastics to convince yourself into being even more gay. just play the fucking game and accept it for what it is or fuck off. also: you are a fucking lunatic to be creating all these rules inside your head that no one else cares about, fucking freak.
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Do I play a warrior again like in the past 4 classic re-releases or try something different and play feral druid?
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>>586452919
Not like this it's not
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>>586452919
How
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>>586452780
>monk without oriental design philosophy
So warriors?
The whole idea of fighting bare handed is oriental...
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>>586452846
we would be good friends and I would say good job well said after he finished recording
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>>586453028
>The whole idea of fighting bare handed is oriental...
are you a weeb or just retarded
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>>586453028
yes only chinamen have ever got into fist fights well done anon you fucking retard
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ALEXENSUAL RUNS THIS GENERAL
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>>586452780
christian battle monks were literally knights. they wouldn't have fucked around learning hand to hand combat. they wore armor and fought with weapons. the hand to hand dumbass crap is all asian because they didn't have enough money and industry to protect their slaves with armor.
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>>586452780
no.
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>>586453180
there's literally monks in the scarlet monastery so whatever real world politics bs you're trying to bring up right now just shut up and fuck off lol
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>>586453129
>literal who balding wanna-be streamer who got rolled by a 17 hunter as a 25 druid
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>>586453180
Huh
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>>586453078
this is just not accurate, horde is based
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https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/1xl5nfn/4chan_leaker_talking_about_a_scam_expansion/
guys redditors don't know that 99% of the posts here are schizobabbler
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>>586452780
I would love a Monk class in Forever, it would be interesting to see how they would implement all the mobility shit without making it TOO wildly different from every other class in that regard. Since Warriors have a dash and Druids have a pounce, I don't see how rolls would be too out of the ordinary.
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>>586453260
>whatever real world politics bs you're trying to bring up right now just shut up and fuck off lol
your brown and should commit suicide
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>>586453180
Good thing humans in wow aren’t Christian
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>>586452780
When they say monk, they talking about a shaolin monk not a bald friar.
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>>586453260
Yeah inspired by oriental monks...
Holy shit how stupid can you get.
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>we'll discuss my inevitable and necessary inclusion later when you're less mad goy
how do you respond without sounding mad and also admitting this is going to happen?
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>>586453260
>Oriental design philosophy
l2r retard.
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>>586453180
spears would have been common long before christianity was even invented even in ancient china anon
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>>586453071
>>586452780
Chinese pandas are fake lore and cringe
Friars/monks fit better into european styled wow
Talents can be light, spirit, martial

makes sense to me
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>>586453402
cope
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>>586453408
they should be friars because eastern design has no place in this game
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>>586453380
kys
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>streamers can freely rmt with no consequence
>streamer is going to rmt and kill you in game with his rmted gear and make a video and you'll look bad online
>dungeon exp massively nerfed because aggrend wants you to buy the leveling guide
>no new classes
>bad class balance
>players right beside you mass disappear into another layer
>you will click another player in pvp and he will disappear into another layer immediately
>russian hackers will spawn from another layer right when you attack a mob and kill you instantly
>insane new gear power creep
>all leveling through quests
>zero social aspects
>all hybrids suck because hybrids
>all twitch channels blatantly viewbotted
>massive reddit post a sunset and get 3000 likes psyop
>ugly new elf race
>new elf race breaks lore
>low effort elf race for both factions because it's cheaper
>low effort elf race still costs $30 and no one complained which means all other new races will also cost $30 minimum
>everyone still needs to be an engineer
>endgame is still raidlog
>speedrunning to 60 in 2 weeks and then raidlogging is still how the game is meant to be played
>insane balance changes every single week by the SC2 balance team that make absolutely no sense but disappoint everyone
>dev doesn't play the game and doesn't realize night elf racials are overpowered
>dev doesn't play the game and doesn't think
>main dev literally said in a podcast he is going to make rogue the best class in the game because he wants to
>you can't disable the fog anymore
>biggest streamer is a nazi
>biggest streamer killed his own mother
yep, they gave up on wow fogever
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>>586453402
>>586453435
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>>586453516
happy for you or sorry that happened
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>>586453431
Thats crazy.
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Someone tell the scarlet monk he shouldn't actually exist because Christian knights irl didn't do martial arts
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>>586453516
yes anon you post this same copypasta every thread. we know you're not going to play it (you are anyway)
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>>586452780
we desperately need a (real) 4th tank spec so sure why not
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>>586453402
Uther quote
The light is catholic god
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>>586452950
I think you are confusing my post with the voices in the walls. Who said anything at all about rules? I asked a question and you had a fucking meltdown lmao. Get a grip, schizo.
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>>586453649
DK is coming
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>>586452780
Rather than a class, I'd want it to be a modification/optionial 'enhancement' for the Discipline Priest spec. Give Disc another option, but lean into the Inner Fire, pseudo-cloth tank concept that got tossed around in early development, but didn't go anywhere. Still fits into the Light, still fits with the Scarlets having it rather than trying to bend some Chi/Life energy shit into things, and gives Priests something new to play with.

Note: this is not to REPLACE current Disc Priest, but an unlockable meant to like, add 2-3 new talents to the tree, or modifiy currently existing ones to do something different when the Disc Priest enters "Fisting Stance" or some shit.
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>>586453728
uh... not like that
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>>586453450
>armor
wowfg is probably the dumbest general on this board. try reading something three times before replying.
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Why don't sky elves have their own aquatic form?
If you are giving them new travel form why not aquatic?
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>>586453728
>DK is coming
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>>586453668
If the Light is the Christian god then why are the scarlet crusade able to use the light for like torturing and stuff?
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>>586453618
Anon originally wanted monks without oriental influence.
Scarlet monks are clearly inspired by oriental monks.
Just accept your L and move on.
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>>586452780
Monks in games like this with their physical combat literally refers to and takes inspiration from shaolin East Asian monks. Cope and seethe if you think otherwise
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>>586453502
>>586453564
>>586453668
But the light is depicted as equal in cosmology with shadow void and demons. It’s also depicted as not necessarily morally good. You really want to go down this road?
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>>586453841
brother i think you just answered your question
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>>586453895
Anon wanted Monks that weren't a 1:1 copy aeshetically of a Chinese restaurant you fucking autistic spastic.
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>>586453841
lol

god loves you and forgives you for your wickedness and will use your wickedness to bring about his plan

>>586453907
yeah the "light is a force like shadow" is a retcon
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>>586453668
When you take your trad larp human paladin memes too far and become actually blasphemous to the religion you pretend to have
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>>586453907
this is wow forever. no one gives a shit about your retail lore garbage.
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>>586453895
Why would the scarlet crusade be "oriental" if they are supposed to be Christian
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>>586453834
Skelfies shouldn't have an Aquatic Form, due to at most having lakes in their 3 (now 1) floating islands. Instead, Skelfies should have Flight Form, which should just be a repeat of their glider cooldown, giving Skelfy druids 2 of them.

I also maintain that Skelfies can't swim.
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i want priests/paladins without the christian influence
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>>586454003
What the fuck are you talking about? Speak English you dumb motherfucker.
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>>586453668
stop worshiping false idols and vain mockeries
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>they add so many races over time
>they didnt just add them all in forever and make them canon somehow

seriously can't take this, i need to play my vulpera. they have existed since the beginning.
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>>586454015
oh dont get me wrong im a richard spencer apollonian who thinks the jews invented christ to overthrow spqr
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>>586453907
>and demons.
light actually crosses over with both life (duh) and /fel/ as opposed with shadow which has no connection to fel at all
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>>586454189
all races in fogever will cost $30
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>>586454116
Abrahamic religions are all false, made up and gay and the reason we have problems in the world, yes including jewslop and muslimsop for the christcucks in the audience.
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>>586454064
Because the devs were 90s weebs that were big into samurai and martial arts.
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>>586454252
Never implied this wasn’t the case.
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>>586454273
And deep dark fantasies
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>>586454258
Eh. I’d rather die than live in a world where this stuff isn’t real
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I've been trying every 5 minutes for the last 4 hours but horde is still locked
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>>586454273
who member when that white guy put on the rice patty hat and played the chinese flute and everyone got really mad at him but it turned out he was literally the worlds best chinese flute guy that did a phd in chinese flute
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>>586454258
I worship the light because my wife sally does
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https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/muddy-boots

How much will these vibecoded addons be memory leaking like motherfuckers? I'm scared to install them
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>>586454585
the only addon you need restedxp - Aggrend
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do anons really think that catholic monks train in hand-to-hand combat, and that the classic RPG monk class that use nunchucks and bowstaves isn't using the shaolin monastery and kung fu as a base?
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>>586454638
Is the forever 1-60 one out yet? So I can pirate it.
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>>586454443
>this is offensive to your Asian-American consumers

Lmao these twitterwarrior leftist dipshits will believe anything for outrage bait. What like maybe a handful of asians even gave a shit? If I saw an asian guy playing say the bagpipes like a pro I'd think it was cool as fuck.
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>>586454585
Then don't install them? Seriously how the fuck are you even finding these shitass addons with less than 1k downlaods? With the modern retail UI you barely need any addons anymore.
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>>586454675
Do you have deep and severe autism that exclusively thinks in black and white baby with the bath water style logic
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>>586454675
The Asians invented punching and kicking
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>>586451654
who?
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>>586454745
That addon has nothing to do with UI.
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>>586454585
I always swim out into the ocean to ding 60
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>>586454585
If you need an add-on to fondly remember certain events, you probably don't actually remember them too fondly.
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>>586454675
>everything must heckin match real life you cant just make your own fantasy concept
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>>586454675
>Friar Tuck is the formidable chaplain of the Merry Men, renowned for fighting Robin Hood to a standstill during an hours-long sword duel at their first meeting. A master of the quarterstaff and broadsword, he used his immense strength to crush armored knights and once commanded a pack of lethal attack hounds that held Robin’s entire band at bay.
Combat monks in Christian faith is not a new concept.
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>>586454735
i dont think any guide has access to the new shit yet and they will all scramble on release to get a good enough guide
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>>586454745
i'm constantly getting shilled https://youtube.com/shorts/DpJRzqqOkm4
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I miss when he didn't have an ego
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>>586454869
it's not about fond moments anon. it records your path down on the map if you had just looked at the thing
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>>586454675
dont make friar cuck beat your ass
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>>586451368
clover club’s disc link is expired. Any fresh new ones? I’m rolling a tank
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I really hope they turn PvE rogue into a dot machine with poisons and bleeds.
after years of pressing ss into SnD its getting kinda boring. Only melee classes seem fun to me but the warrior and rogue playstyle are too similar
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>>586455016
that seems like a pretty cool addon
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>>586455008
Wtf he was cracked
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>>586455104
survival hunter, it has free SnD
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>>586454810
youtube channel "the noticer" goes over lore and he posts on vg and is a nazi
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>>586455017
who
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>>586455023
I did but like, why does this matter? What do yo need it for? You're going to look at it once or twice and as the op pointed out, its probably a leaky buggy mess
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>>586455104
Rogue should apply debuffs to the target for other classes to consume
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>>586455008
The whole discussion is that Christian monks used weapons and made them no different than normal soldiers.
Your own description supports this.
Scarlet monks use martial arts which is inspired by oriental monks.
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>>586451654
>>586451880
Hi Noticer, im subbed on Youtube, keep it up you nerd
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How do I click ignore recommendations from this channel on 4chan?
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>Retail cucks think they are still the main game
>Forever gets all new races and classes constantly they will never get
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>>586455235
Monks would grapple or wrestle to steel their bodies. That is a material art.
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>>586455202
I don't want to give him more of an ego iykyk
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christians cast magic spells and perform rituals
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>>586455235
ahh yes because the concept of punching things didnt exist before them
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>>586455360
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>>586451654
>>586451890
Backrooms reconstruction of Asmongold
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>>586455104
This is a cool concept and would immediately play a rogue if they pull it off.
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Forever will get monks and they will be much more like the Diablo monk class if they are smart
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>>586455235
Ancient greks invented karate nice try chinaman

>>586455317
wish i was him i just shill for free
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>>586455104
They should do that and also make most mobs immune to poisons and bleeds
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I'm not going to use any add-ons
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>>586455204
>why does this matter
it exists because other people want it retard
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>>586451756
I don't understand why I'd want to play on the more popular realms / rulesets. With effectively 4 realms per region, even the least popular will have more than enough players for anything you'd want to do - but less layering and fewer players making the AH impossible to profit from.
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>>586455609
not even restedxp??
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>>586454443
claiming that some random white dude is the world's best fue player because he got a doctorate in music is actually cultural appropriation and racism lol.
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>>586455609
i have spoken the text to speech for quests one
also gunna use threat meter
otherwise yeah addons ruin the fun of exploration
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Pet the dark lady anon

https://litter.catbox.moe/5hn1d3uuajxli0gs.png
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>>586455475
they ritually cannibalize their god which is fundamentally based on human sacrifice but don't you dare tell them that in the information age, larping as a medieval serf is clownshit
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>>586455729
put down the tokens and pick up the pencil
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>>586455729
imagine the smell
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many cultures outside of asia have real hand to hand combat sports and arts that became part of their religious mythos
africa has engolo and dambe
greeks had pankration
brazil has capoeira
hawaii has lua
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I'm gonna get my warrior, priest, mage, rogue, warlock, and hunter to level 10 and cycle through them as they build rested XP and cycle greens to each other.
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>>586455729
Do this but with whitemane
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>>586455729
Don't do this with whitemane, do this with Shoni the silent
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>>586455915
enjoy playing the exact same thing every day for a week bro!
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>>586454741
an asian dude playing bagpipes wouldn't wear a kilt and a fake red beard while riding a sheep. they have more sense than that.
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>>586455912
imagine how sick a wrestling spec would be for monk
>Root yourself AND the target for 4 seconds
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>>586455753
jesus said a lot of weird shit, but there's a lot of shit jesus never said in the bible, but the writers just made it look like he did

the last supper was a much later fabrication, same with the resurrection, for the purpose of coping that jesus didn't actually die on the cross (he did and it was over). it was fabricated by early jesus-cult followers so they can have more stories to tell and so they can convince themselves of their own cause (rebellion against roman/jewish order)

tell this to a christian and watch them explode
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>it's retail minus!
Ok what's being removed from retail then? The things that make it shit?
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>>586455920
Sally is on the mega

https://mega.nz/folder/6pglHTIQ#xcyYKYntC_36aemO_DMzZw
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>>586455981
built for big tauren cock

>>586456084
quality of life features
in my opinion removing quality of life features is good because it makes people need to talk to eachother and make friends
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>>586455016
stop being a slave of the shorts algorithm feed
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>>586456116
Ima praise the light
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shaman highest dps is to use rockbiter weapon and wf totem
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I want to play rogue for RP but rogue sucks and is boring in group PvE
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>>586454675
Wrestling and using martial arts is in the bible, as shown when Jacob laid the smackdown on an angel
>not shown in pic, 5 seconds later when Jacob delivers the People's Elbow on him
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>>586455981
>>586456147
he can't do good gnomes, don't bother.
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>>586456068
ive actually heard that too, that his resurrection was added to make him appear divine and in the earliest accounts he just died
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>>586455729
sloptards who save their dime-a-dozen images as 4k PNGs will be the death of the internet
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>>586456330
You always use windfury weapon. It gives 2 extra attacks while the totem only gives 1. You also get a talent that increases its extra damage by 40%.
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>>586455920
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>>586456334
How is it boring? You get to open the chests...
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>>586456334
why do you want to RP a rogue, is your character a sneak? You can just /kneel between backslash slow walks to give impression of stealth.
Gnomish Cloaking Device
Lesser Invisibility Potion
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The fucking daylight savings jews robbed us of an extra hour that we have to wait for wow forever....
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shaman and druid players unironically got raped.
3 specs
1 viable lv60 endgame
And is RESTO for both
>well enhance is g-
What it offer to raids? I can even see elemental shamans having more raid spots than the selfish enhance spec but elemental right now is so bad you are only raiding as Resto
>feral is g-
Nah bro, you lose to warrior and pally for tanking and cat got castrated. Maybe 1 bear gets in for leader of the pack.
Boomkin? Lol, lmao.
Put on the dress and heal
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what's the rogue pvp spec
what's the hunter pvp spec
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>>586456491
in forever it's better to use rockbiter since you can benefit from that and wf totem
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shes cute.
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>>586456345
The Bible is actually really ambiguous on whether Jacob is wrestling an angel, God Himself, or just some dude that for some reason is really strong. Regardless when people said "wrestling" back then they specifically meant Greco-Roman Wrestling which no one today does outside of high school/college and at the olympics
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>>586456547
Poisoner-Alchemist is kino
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>>586456498
get this titcow out of my face this is a flat chest neighborhood
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>>586456334
>sucks
They explicitly said they want rogue to top single target DPS
I know the charts show rogue low but thats beta shit and they might need to patch it to make it happen but that’s where its gonna end up
>boring
Probably but PvE is boring as fuck in general unless you’re healing/tanking
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>>586456345
>1And so it came to pass, that the angel of the Lord took Jacob's hand, and Jacob's wrist was in the hand of the angel of the Lord, 2and the angel of the Lord struck Jacob, using his own hand that he had held, 3and upon striking Jacob with his own hand, that the angel of the Lord had held with his own hand, spoke to him thus, saying, "Stop hitting yourself". 4But Jacob could not, as the angel of the Lord held his arm by the wrist, and he could not loose it, 5and the angel of the Lord continued to hit him, with his own hand.

Real bible verse btw.
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>>586456656
What did he mean by this
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>>586456605
It's not. But have fun pulling threat constantly from your retarded decision.
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>>586456704
wrong
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>>586456068
>and so they can convince themselves of their own cause (rebellion against roman/jewish order)
But Jesus specifically wasn't doing that, people REALLY wanted him to call for rebellion but the whole point of the "render unto Caesar" speech is basically saying, "pay your fucking taxes, you reap the benefits of Roman society and use the coins they mint and then suddenly decide you want out as soon as it's inconvenient?"
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>>586456490
Brother your basic bitch reaction gif of an old man blinking incredulously is twice the filesize and added nothing to your post
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>>586452173
>least faggy amerishart
Figure.
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>>586456635
fact: the hebrew says god injured jacob on his hip socket. There is no such word "hip socket" the word was "loins". So a man came and wrestled a man and his butt hurt afterwards. God sodomized jacob
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>>586456605
Windfury weapon is the best. If you are solo you can just drop your other overpowered wind totem instead. In a raid you'll have 2 shamans dropping both regardless.
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>>586456345
Could yujiro beat him?
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>>586456330
You got any sims to back this up or is this just rp server schizobabble?
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>>586456836
>There is no such word "hip socket"
Well yeah it's called the acetabulum
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>>586456898
every sim uses rockbiter
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>I hate leftists and atheists so much I’m going to be hardline Christian while browsing 4chan
>I hate the trad larders I argue with on discord and twitter so much I’m going to constantly insult and hate everything Abrahamic and get into some esoteric perennial shit while browsing 4chan

Can’t
Can’t you both just shut up
Forever
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>>586456763
no it isn't
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>>586456836
God raped and gaped jacob
KWAB
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Do UD get more skin colors to choose from or is the dressing room for forever just broken and buggy?
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>>586456758
people kind of misunderstand that. jesus hated the romans and he hated the jewish aristocratic priest elite. he was more like a liberal essene than a typical jew (apocalyptic jew, but radical ideas on purity and sabbath laws). he wasn't retarded though and loved The Father and His Temple and knew that if he used force to rebel, the romans would fuck them up, which they did, but way later.

he was just gandhi and tried to kill the romans with kindness (and subtle cues of insubordination, like turning the other cheek trying to get a roman soldier to slap you twice, which was considered excessive for romans and means they couldn't maintain order without civil violence, which is barbarism), but unlike the indians who supported gandhi, the jews wanted jesus dead instead
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>>586453402
>le epic updoot r/atheism winnered again
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>>586456836
Your loins aren’t your butt. You’re the only person I’ve ever seen make that mistake
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Gnome rogue or mage?
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>>586457297
Where did you get this picture of my wife?
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>>586457227
Im christian. That’s why I made that correction.
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>>586456951
>mythicsim uses crowd pummeler with flametongue then when it expires switches to spellpower staff with rockbiter
this is either retarded or insanely gigabrain
I just don't see anyone doing this in real game
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>>586440982
it's going to be a stealth drop so the internet can't talk shit for 2 months and people will buy it like the dino mount
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>>586455707
Wasn't aware bunkertroon browsed vg lol.
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>>586457120
He was mostly seen as a big troublemaker by the Romans. I'm not the biggest fan of the show The Chosen but the scene where Herod and Caiaphas meet is really good as it shows the Roman representative's position vs the Jewish high priest's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvbcZv4qOg8
to be clear Herod Antipas was also jewish but he had completely adopted the Roman way of life and understood being First Precept actually has responsibilities that go above personal whims
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>>586456836
jacob's hip socket burned for his wife, rachel, but had to first take her sister leah, which his hip socket had not burned for
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>>586457297
What is happening with her tits
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>>586457363
Why'd you give your wife the tiddy twister?
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Ret and Prot being OP is the reason Holy is dogshit. Someone had to pay the price.
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>>586457439
Mah I’m against that stuff but he’s right. We’re butting up against 4chans general
>good for me not for thee
Problem
You either correctly call out appeals to authority and credentialism or you have to now put your faith in these things. Can’t do both
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>>586457448
>first precept
First Tetrarch, I meant
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Can someone red pill me on going mutilate instead of adrenaline rush for combat?
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any math nerd wanna see how much rogue dps would increase if pic related (picked up at lvl 10) was increased to 75% off hand damage, and the combat DW specialization talent further increases to 100%?
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The Scarlet Crusade must be good because they serve the light. And the Light is good.
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>>586457448
the chosen tv show is made by mormons lol
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>>586457570
Having Relentless Strikes makes rogue feel like it actually is a build. It's insane how that shit isn't baseline with how vital it is for the class to not feel like shit to play.
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What's going on here?
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>>586457651
I'm aware but I'm going to give credit when credit is due when it happens
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>>586457639
The dark iron use the light too
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>>586457639
Does having exposed thighs bring you closer to the Light?
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What was the design philosophy behind copy and pasting abilities from death knight onto paladin?
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>>586457716
>Meanwhile all Rogue specs on C tier
Bros?
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>>586457639
>Scarlet CRUSADE
>meant to show how the faith in God=Light can be twisted into something bad
If anything, it proves that Church of the Holy Light = Christianity
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>male skyborne
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>>586457716
Blizzard hasn't given a shit about Ele from the very beginning. Like they've received zero attention.
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>>586457857
its called HOMOgenization because blizzard is gay
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>>586457865
Out numbers are really low, we need the damage increased. And thankfully unlike warriors, us doing more damage doesn't give more energy, it regens the same regardless so it's safe to bump the numbers up
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>>586457227
your video game religion is not the word of God
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>>586457818
And the dark iron need their women fucked
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>>586457716
sim based off shit data
just look at every rogue spec being shit-tier
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>>586457962
it doesnt for warriors either with normalization
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>>586457894
I'M GONNA KILL WARCHIEF GARROSH
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>>586457874
>twisted into something bad

That’s debatable. Is the SC really immoral when the forsaken are written so hilariously evil despite having free minds? And the scourge is just evil

Considering what lordaeron went through the surviving SC makes a lot of sense especially since believing in their religion gives literal magic powers
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>>586457894
oof
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>>586457673
Rogue really needs more energy regen. I know they said they dont want to go that route but its the only solution.
1 sinister strike every 4 second or mutilate every 6 isnt good.
My idea is to put it behind slice and dice or rupture so it'll delay the burst potential in pvp. Rogues will have to decide between the kidney or snd / rupture for a prolonged fight.
My only cope is they are planning on putting it on a tier set bonus to see how it goes.
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>>586457894
Hold on, you're just making the skelves sound based
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some random questions from an old fag.
1. battlegrounds are cross server? if so, how, all 4 types together or special combinations?
2. pve alliance is the streamer one? so avoid at all cost
3. on a pve server, can i group up with the other faction to run a dungeon?
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>>586457570
Your combo point builder is 60 energy
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>>586457716
Druids were crying like crazy after friday, but shaman dps is in the most raped state by far.
Especially when you consider that those sims are with full consumes and manual crowd pummeler cheese.
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>>586457570
I cant because blade flurry adrenaline rush is really good
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Only a few more days until Blizzard's final shart.
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>>586457583
this is with current talents so off hand is 62.5% dmg
if you did 100% off hand dmg it would be +66 dps or like 9.5% more total dps
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>>586458119
for 2
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>>586458043
They already said crits will give more rage, just not infinitely scaling rage.

>>586458083
But seriously though, RS needs to be baseline. Make it baseline instead of requiring every rogue build, no matter what that build is, to put 11 points into assassination for their class to remotely work. Omen of Clarity was made baseline for this reason
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>>586454252
lmao these faggots doing everything in their power to avoid using the word chaos
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>>586458119
Yeah but thats 30 energy per combo point rather than 40.
And with relentless strikes that probably averages out to more energy.
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>>586458079
It’s glossed over just how apocalyptic lordaeron is because our main angle to view that is the horde aligned forsaken which mainly seem to just selfishly make it worse the utter hell being a surviving human would be is insane
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>>586458239
yes crits give more rage but not based on the damage they do, a crit at level 1 and level 60 is the same rage you will just crit more often but theres a crit cap in play anyway
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>>586458195
I can't wait to see what our blizzard grannies & trannies shit out for us to enjoy!
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>>586458269
Disorder is the same thing as chaos
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>>586458239
>RS needs to be baseline
Good idea actually
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>>586456436
It's a little more complicated than that. Crucifixion was as much a Roman tool of instilling fear as anything, the roads outside Rome were lined with the crucified dead and dying, and the miracle of resurrection basically defanged all that and encouraged early Christians to practice in spite of Roman persecution.
That said, the contemporary sources mostly only confirm the mass crucifixion of Christians by Nero after the Great Fire and thereabouts, not Jesus or his apostles as tradition holds.
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>>586458083
Just delete snd already
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>>586458239
Oh yeah I was agreeing with you.
Rs effectively just makes the finisher free, and with the new eviscerate talent it is free. But that still defaults you down to 4 second sinister strike or 6 mutilate.
I think rogue should just be balanced now around a higher energy rate rather than later down the road.
Nerf snd by half but give it energy regen. More ability damage via energy while having less white damage.
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>>586458551
tier talent 1 btw
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>>586458465
no shit
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>>586455194
>he posts on vg
>how do you know this
>because he uses wojaks in his thumbnails
Are you serious dude
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>>586457456
Janny approved censorship
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>>586455707
im the worlds best fucker of your mom because i studied her curves and got a doctorate in slamming ham
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>>586458551
we like this
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>>586458964
The X-men were the bad guys in that entire franchise.
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>>586451368
I'm undecided on what races to play. My buddies are bullying me to play horde for once, and I'm wanting to play a paladin, shaman, and survival hunter. Sky elf looks nice for shaman with the haste racial, but idk about the others.
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>>586459071
No they aren't
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>>586459153
Magneto did nothing wrong
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>>586458551
S&D is fine because at the end of the day it gives a massive boost to autoattack damage ever if it isn't necessarily a "fun" button to push. By contrast Venom doesn't even do that, the damage buff is marginal all things considered.
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yep, madseason is right, I'm not going to waste my time in this ticking bomb that is wow fagever, it'll be dead in 2 months
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With the megaserver shit, will I be locked to one faction if I go for PvP?
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>>586458079
The Scarlets go against their own (other humans and members of the Alliance) - kind of like irl crusaders didn't just go against the muslims, but other Christians as well.
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>>586459360
Yes pvp servers are faction locked.
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>>586458196
That sounds like a solid improvement. If they're down 15%, leaving them only down 4.5% should definitely pull them out of C tier and into B while not increasing their burst damage in PvP like an energy boosting ability would. a slight buff to SnD speed could put them into A tier I think

>>586458079
if I recall correctly, the hung bodies you see across tirisfal glades are strung up by the crusade and they weren't forsaken, they were living humans

>>586458551
i'm in the camp of not removing SnD cause attacking fast is cool, but i DO think venom should replace SnD specifically for assassination rogues
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>>586459325
c u in 2 days
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>>586459325
just in time for hardcore
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>3 more sleeps till forever
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>>586459153
Yes they are. You even see the direct evidence in the first 10 minutes of the first real-life adaptation with the first X-men film. You've got Eric, who is a holocaust survivor, listening to yet another politician who wants to put armbands on him and people like him. We all know how that story ends. We've seen and heard it all before - especially Eric. He'd already lived through the scenario. Then you have Xavier trying to convince Eric to be kind and soft with the enemy who wants to kill Eric, Xavier, and all mutant kind

So throughout the entire saga you have Magneto and his allies trying to protect mutants, stand up for mutants worldwide, and to carve out a place in the world for mutants. Meanwhile you've got Xavier and his merry band of faggots constantly interfering, constantly undermining the efforts of those mutants who just want to survive, constantly fighting with the enemy. X-men are traitors to their own kind. Simple as.
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>>586459325
Mad doesn't love classic, he loves the version of classic that exists in his head. You can't simultaneously bitch about catering to minmaxers, and being upset that the human/orc weapon skill racial is gone when it was THE minmaxer racial of choice that made everyone play them. And yet he does it, because in reality he'll never actually be happy with WoW.
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is that expantion leak real or bs?
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>>586459551
its real little gup! they had the same 4chan username.
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>>586459325
Madseason is a faggot who likes the money he gets from his you tube videos. He is butthurt because he didn't get a sponsorship money from the leveling addon.
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>>586458909
SEX!!!
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Scarlet Crusade did nothing wrong. They fight the undead and those who sympathize with the abominations. Arthas knew what needed to be done when waging a war against the dead, and they're following in his example. Their only misstep was letting the demon infiltrate their leadership.
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gnomes have 5 toes
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>>586459529
I think you just fundamentally don’t understand what he was saying there. I hate min maxxers too but damn I miss weapon racials.
The new ones are so uninspired
I just want real flavor that actually says something about the race
You know what yeah orcs should be using axes. It just looks weird to see one with a sword. Sue me
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>>586459527
This isn't true at all lol
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>37 yo
>last time I had a gf was more than 10 years ago
there's still time r-right?
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>>586459760
calm down aggrend, you might have a heart attack getting this mad
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>>586459845
you may not like that it be how it do but it does
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>>586459695
does that matter?
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november 4th will be the day of my revenge
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>another video from a content creator dooming and glooming about the game because everyone knows that negativity is how you cash in views
When you spot the pattern, you learn how to avoid it. I'll be the judge of if the game is good or not, not some negative nancy
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>want to play gnome warlock
>human +1% crit and +10% spirit are too hard to pass up

I thought they wanted to make racials balanced?
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I'm going to make a nice chicken stew on wednesday morning so I can enjoy hearty soup for the next few days.
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>>586459551
Fake wow expansion leaks are part of the trifecta with fake pokemon and smash bros leaks.
A /v/ anon leak post is entirely valueless unless and until some portion of it is confirmed and the rest of it becomes worth anticipating.
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is it too late to find a raiding guild?
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>>586459945
the algo serves you what it knows you like to watch so i don't know why you're here pretending other people don't know this, gramps
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>>586459551
you mean mine? I’m the only one ahead of the curve.
1st: Pandaria exp (targeted at chinese players who will still be using Titan servers next year but eventually opened up)
2nd: Twilight (revamped southern kalimdor - Uldum zone added, updated silithus and AQ will now be a questing zone + end of exp raid)
3rd: Northrend (kelthuzad is final boss)
4th: Dark Portal (we save khadgar and bring him back into our world. medivh final boss.)

As you can see, the themes are a reverse order for the first four expansions.
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You know the game is bad when the general has devolved to spamming pornsick ritual posts and off-topic cringe
What a sad and mentally ill way for this franchise to end
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>>586459891
Man, are you me?
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>>586460039
It's already over, you might as well find a different game.
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>>586460056
It hasn't been recommended to me. People are talking about it in here
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>>586460085
You're aware the game isn't out?
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>>586459827
If you choose to keep objectively superior racial skills then you lose all right to complain about minmaxers because you chose to feed the beast instead of slay it
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>>586460032
I posted mine >>586460082
and literally days later aggrend says “we’re going to pandaria and northrend at some point” on the forever podcast. i know game dev too well.
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>>586459905
Sure...
(*゜д゜*)
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>>586460136
and you really thought that was better, huh? wow
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>>586460085
But enough about retail, this is wowfg after all
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so this is just going to be pvp2 after 30 days, yeah?
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>>586459932
I've been having my revenge since blizzcon. It has felt amazing seeing the cope and seethe from retail andies.
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>>586460208
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>>586460249
what site
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>>586458118
1. Yes, battlegrounds are cross server, excluding hardcore. It will just be all types thrown together (PvP, PvE, RP, RpPvP).
2. PvE Alliance is the big streamer one, up to you if you just try to avoid their ilk or play somewhere else.
3. No.
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>>586460371
https://guildsforever.com
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>>586459107
Pls advise
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>Pandas to appeal to the chinese
I don't get this logic. They're already eating everything up with WoW regardless of the inclusion of the Pandas.
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>>586460257
the only thing retail players have to cope with is the freedom of all the low-iq rabble moving on to the whatever their precious e-celebs told them was the next thing. i sincerely want all the Forever enjoyers to go there and stay there, forever.
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>>586460000
>eureka
>5% more mana
>both have a pvp racial to remove some type of cc
It's really not that different. Gnome locks just get slightly fucked by eureka not working on periodic effects.
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>>586460468
Spoken like a true seether. Thanks for the endorphin boost.
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>>586460000
they are, you're just austistic
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>>586460458
stupid. it’s about closing the titan servers bc chinese players will get fomo if they can’t join the new classic+. titan is being phased out over the next year and a half. Ion was in china last week begging forgiveness and promising that Forever won’t (immediately) replace Titan.
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This shit makes me unreasonably pissed off
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>>586460529
That's good! Enjoy Forever forever and never come back.
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>>586457914
They've received attention, just the wrong kind. The tree had 3% extra spell crit initially but even that was deemed too much.
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>>586460458
It was never true anyway, Pandarians were china-inspired since WC3 right down to having stereotypical accents which is why Chen comes back as one of the main characters of MoP. What did people think Pandaria was going to look like when we finally went there aside from China?
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I'm probably the only one here who is a real High Warlord.
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>>586460405
What's the best play for guild leader? You want a tank healer or dps one?
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>>586460249
Yes that is the main concern with a 2nd pvp server. It's expected that a lot will treat rp-pvp as a way to play on the other faction.
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>>586460405
Why is every wow forever site so obviously vibecoded and how are people literally CREATING accounts there without 2nd thought. Wtf???
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>>586460826
If you want to play GM you have to tank. There is no choice. Anyone else telling you otherwise is a liar and trying to trick you into suboptimality.
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>>586460615
I don't know man, what about when my gear becomes redundant and i have to farm out a full set of heroic gear again and a few hundreds crests to upgrade it and then slowly drip feed replace it all with mythic gear and farm hundreds of more crests to upgrade it all again? Then in month or two there will be like 60 Xstones to grind to further upgrade pieces to the new cap.
I might want to log in to do that...
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>>586454443
>>586455707
well no shit I bet the best Alphorn player is prolly not swiss but some korean kid that was forced to watch Heidi reruns since he was 6 months old.
There are always some foreigners that get weirdly obsessive with other coltures for one reason or another.
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>>586460826
tank or braindead lock. guild leader should be expected to raid lead also.
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>>586460000
racials make up like 1% of damage, with a 0.5% variance between eachother's output
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>>586460687
A part of me wants to say "I was hoping they wouldn't just transplant Imperial China into a fantasy setting basically unchanged" but then again that's exactly what WHF did with Cathay
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>>586460949
It doesn't sound like you'd ever want to do that, to me, so I doubt that's something you'll ever have to worry about.
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For a Rogue name, does Zeth Victus or Zeth Vega sounds better?
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>>586458551
making snd passive and giving warriors gladiator stance were the best things they did in wod.
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>>586459107
Only the Undead can be paladins, so that's settled.
Survival hunter? Orc would be my first choice because of the visuals and racials, followed by Tauren, because I like them.
Unless you meant lone wolf (no pet) survival hunter, and then the best race would be Skelf.
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>>586461060
Maybe you're right.
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>>586461032
Warhammer did it way moreso, Pandaria isn't Imperial China, it's people living in the long-dead ruins of Imperial China. Their heydey was millenia ago and their situation is more like this, where they sit among the greatness of the past and wonder what people had to be like back then to make something like that.
Which imo is way more interesting than just transplanting China. The fact that Lorewalker Cho is one of the few people that knows ANYTHING about their past makes them feel like a drifting lost race.
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>>586460919
everything is like that nowadays. i think that one guy doing vibecoding collab streams with big streamers during beta and streamers playing all these vibecoded wow games on stream are also to blame for the mega popularity of it.
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>>586459527
>a story about a jew leading a group of ppl which are fundamentally different, and their efforts in fighting the gentiles which want to restrain them
I mean...
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>>586460919
You think any dev happens that isn’t vibe coded anymore?
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>>586461346
yeah. and my point was they have every right to grind all the human normies who want to murder them into the dirt.
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>>586461067
Vega

btw anyone have any good troll last names? going for actual rp names. they normally only have a first name, and maybe a title.
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>>586460590
you play a hapsburg tauren, they know you eat shit and will ask for seconds
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>>586461541
just hit random and mash two you like together or make your first name a title. tribe names are blocked as surnames.
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wrath classic when
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>>586460919
that's the internet now everything sucks
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>>586459891
>>586460104
i'm 47 and the last time i had a real girlfriend was in 2007, i go through dating app hell phases here and there but nothing has stuck
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>>586461540
Charles school got the cream of the crop.
Erics band was purely numbers, full of freaks (commies) which he didnt have much compunction about sacrificing.
Hmm...
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>>586461760
we’re going back in 2028. patience.
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>>586461541
If i were to make a troll i would either split the name up like vol'jin would be Vol Jin, or i would maybe use what you consider their respective loa as a last name like Jindo Halazzi, or maybe just troll meme shit like Rokhan Tazdingo
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>>586462031
You able to interact with any fertile women or
Have you been thinking about SEA DLC or
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couple more days bros pretty excited
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>>586461625
If this image was true why did blizzard even need to make wow forever and not just keep telling people to play modern retail?
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>>586461974
the sucking hasn't even begun. binance? that wasn't even episode 1 season 1. that's wasn't even the trailer you see at the start of the movie! that was the non-related prerelease promo you see in a cereal commercial where the bird or the tiger come in and mention the real show tengentially.

shit is gonna be fucking wild soon. if AI can read and decipher raw assembly language that means it can easily decode anything, including passwords .... or launch codes ........ :D
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>>586461898
2030.
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Are Latin names too try hard?
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>>586460919
>>586461974
>>586462181
isn't this like, the plot of cyberpunk?
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>>586462039
The cream of the crop at what? Collaborating with the enemy and killing their own kind. Yeah the Jews had Jewish police in the camps too ... the Nazis loved that ... kinda like we have normie-police nowadays who police all the normies themselves for the 1% ... im sure they love that too. You're also correct. Eric did not discriminate. Eric wanted all mutants to have a place in the world and in the future. He was offering his resources to everyone whereas Charles only ever offered his resources to the humans who were always ungrateful and destroying his own men with collateral or direct damage. And Eric couldn't sacrifice anyone. It's not an army. People can just leave. The people who followed orders did so willingly of their own volition because they believed what Eric and they were doing was good: ensuring survival. Sounds pretty good to me.
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>retardins get to take all of the highest impact talents from every tree without having to make any sacrifice
meanwhile arms warrior has to put like 40 points into arms tree to get all of they baseline functionality then have nothing left for anything else. and you have shamans considering not even taking maelstrom because you have to sacrifice too much other stuff for it
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>haven't played worlo warcar in over four years
>halfassed classic "plus" with HD graphics and some bullshit idk
>horrible urge to come back and ruin my life
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>>586462183
that's just enough time to finish sunwell
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>>586462402
>pally favoritism
Shocker
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>>586462402
same thing with melee hunter. they have obviously designed the tree to make everything line up for certain specs.
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>>586462451
don't waste your time. it's not worth it. it's not like it was "back in the day". it's all fake and gay now plus you have decades of social-media-induced anti-social behavior to deal with. like ... there's a social contract you have to agree to before you play now. they even took /spit out of the game because blizzie could not allow their pay-piggers to be publicly shamed!
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>making a rogue is now a gamble
Warrior looks fun at least
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>>586462624
Make spit PvP only :^)
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These talent trees are dogshit, there's hardly any choices to make
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>>586461248
>lone wolf (no pet) survival hunter,
That's actually a thing? Can I get a qrd on why anyone would do that?
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>>586462676
It's not even a gamble, Rogue is completely pointless existing outside of World PvP.
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>>586462826
big numbers
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>>586462165
because retail got progressively worse and even the staunchest shit eaters choked to death
you literally can't survive on shit...forever
ask russia
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>>586462701
From the perspective of nu-Blizzfart you just described a war crime.
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>>586462826
Raid, dungeon.
Basically what you do on retail with MM Lone Wolf.
Then swap to a pet spec when you're solo.
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>>586462826
pet is 25% of your single target dmg but can die or lose uptime very easily

trading that for 20% guaranteed always makes sense in many situations, both pve and pvp
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reminder that the only true f r e s h was back in 2004, everything else since has been a cheap copy trying to recapture that feeling but failing miserably
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>>586462624
personally a friend gave me a free week and if i hate it as much as i imagine, i delete the account again. the person is not even in the same region as me, so we can't even play together, so thats always fun though
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>>586463039
Your pet is a source of infinite caster pushback in pvp
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>>586462624
I leveled a healer priest in 2019 classic and the anti-social behavior even then was equal parts fascinating and frustrating. Helping people out in the world was a coin flip on whether they'd be genuinely appreciative or an asshole sociopath. I imagine it's even worse now.
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>>586462826
i have always hated that bows and guns in games come with a free dog. an option to not have the pet should have always existed.
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>lets take a cool concept but in every rpg ever, from wow, gw1, lets make absolute sure he has an emotional support animal because we can't think of anywhere better to put it and aren't ballsy enough to have an animal tamer class all by itself
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>>586462826
Maybe something like this.

>summon pet when you need a tank
>put it away when you don't

lone wolf doesn't stop you from summon a pet, it just gives you a bonus when its not active.
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>>586463530
You missed the single strongest melee talent in surv
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>>586463330
well Forever is classic zoom-zoom-edition however the new naming convention with first and last names is giving a lot of people a second chance at life to wipe the slate clean and behave so there might be a tiny sliver of hope in that regard but i am not particularly hopeful. it is humanity and people are who they are, after all. the mask always fractures eventually. the one thing you have to remember is that talking in chat on retail is now basically an adventure itself. you always take a risk. so if that kind of mindset bleeds into Forever then that classic-magic vanishes instantly.
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>>586462826
because the devs are making it the best dps spec.
they're obsessed with making hunters into a no pet melee class.
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is there a druid trainer in SW/IF at all or do you have moonglade teleport in classic? I wanna level in elwynn obviously
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>>586463665
>the one thing you have to remember is that talking in chat on retail is now basically an adventure itself
I got a warning for saying "sup"
wish I were making this up
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>>586463850
what was the justification for that lol
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something like the flagellant from dark dungeon
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>>586462474
Quel Thalas isn’t coming till expansion 4. Medivh and Legion shenanigans will have to wait.
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>>586463837
In the park of SW, and I think they added one to IF just standing around the central forge. There's definitely one in the park.
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>>586463850
i believe it
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Can't wait for some 50 year old boomer to try and say my characters name in discord
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>>586464048
Norizz Blackedops?
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>>586461067
Call yourself something like Slick Jimmy so when you nina loot no one can be mad because you made it obvious that you're a no good sleezebag
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>>586464048
six ate seven chinese maxed frame aware zoomie retard

3 tidepods in and livestreaming their mewing session while also jelking

the only thing i want to pronounce anyone under the age of 30 is dead
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Friendly reminder most zoomers, including a material portion of this general, got trained into thinking reporting someone (=being a snitch) is completely normal and even desirable.
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>>586464263
that's because they were never socialized as children so they never leaned how to be a human being and that snitches get stitches
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>>586464263
get fucked
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>>586463515
Rangers have had animal empathy since AD&D 2E so it's at least a 40 year old archetype
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>>586464263
Bizarre.
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>>586464263
The best form of trolling nowadays is to just bait someone into swearing so theyll automatically get banned if you report them.
The notification that they've been punished is so fucking funny. Just knowing how absolutely pissed they must be.
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>>586464214
How do you plan on ninja looting with these party drop rulesets

and Zeth Victus or Zeth Vega is going to be a strict pvp name. Which one?
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just use discord instead of ingame chat and you can say nigger all you want
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>>586452031
because this place is much better
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>>586464532
that little notification at the top of your screen that you have to acknowledge and clear because it pushes down your entire ui is like daddy using a wand on the sissy-faggots flat cage to completion for people who are into that sort of thing.
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>>586464263
Let me guess, brazil? Or perhaps mexico? You guys are used to getting robbed in the broad daylight and throwing poop.
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>>586464489
yes
it is ancient
it also sucks, at least it was optional in dnd
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>>586464614
Germany.
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>>586464782
hahaha oooooh man. you guys are fucked. you all gonna be saluting another demon again soon. all of europe will. we're all gonna die. :D
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>zoomers complain about lack of normal social environment
>the same zoomers act perplexed when you point out the culture of snitching is a problem
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How many characters can we make again? Is it over 10?
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>>586464934
20
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>>586462839
things will change
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>>586464895
(me on the left)
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>>586463850
>guy starts an M+ group
>I apply
>he invites me
>I say "hey"
>he says "sup" as in "what is up?"
Gee I don't know, I guess I joined because I want to do the dungeon you're advertising?
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>>586464897
you just wait until i prompt grok to rebuff your criticism (being raised by an ipad and youtube algorithm has turned me into a solipsist)
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>Lightning reflexes changed to 2/4/6% instead of 1/2/3/4/5% dodge
>Precision changed to 2/4/6% instead of 1/2/3% hit
>Flawless execution reduced eviscerate cost by 10 and also gives your eviscerate a 20% chance to add a Combo Point to your target.
>Aggression changed to 3/6/9% instead of 2/4/6% bonus damage
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>>586465049
You have autism.
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>>586464246
this anon mad af but that last line a bar lowk
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>>586465031
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do you think this thread is good
i just want to know if you don't mind rolling in the mud or if you actively enjoy it
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>>586463515
>Uses petless talent and outdps's you anyways
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Can someone give me a good Fire/Frost mage build for pvp at 60 please. I never played the class so the talent trees are confusing to me.
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>>586465232
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so im the bad guy for sawing off the heads of gold buyers, is it?
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>>586465203
I don't really waste my time thinking about inane shit like that
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>>586464456
You are angry cause you know its the truth.
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>>586465106
So are you just making shit up?
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>>586464895
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>>586465106
just make precision 5 points at least. right now you need to waste two points on like parry if you don't play backstab/mutilate.
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>>586465320
100% because the first thing the devs must change is the 1000 cuts bullshit talent in Sub
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Do Sky Elves have a lore reason to be racist towards horde species?

I wanna join the rp pvp and roll a racist for my character but it seems like I'll have to roll human for that character trait to make sense
.
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>>586464263
>>586464442
I'm white so I report crime when I see it.
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>>586465334
stop the count
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>>586465381
both sub and ass capstones are fucking stupid

Imagine being Blizzard hearing Rogue's complain so much about how boring and unintuitive Slice and Dice is that they made another copy of it as a new capstone.
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>>586465303
you sound retarded
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>>586465452
we're not talking about crime tho. you'd know that if you were huwyte. we're talking about appropriate behavior in a common space surrounded by like-minded comrades. you'd know that if you weren't brown.
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Would Blizz ban me if I play a tank named Tiananmen Square?
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>>586465573
100% if you offend some Chinaman.
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>>586465494
the poison capstone seems interesting, I just wish Mutilate worked with all weapons.
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>>586465320
yes? These are just changes I wish they'd make.
Also with dual wielding (base) adding 75% off hand damage instead of 50%.
>>586465373
forcing more points into a lesser benefits seems like more of a waste.
like this you're set up for points into dodge, parry, or backstab if you use daggers
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>>586465431
>Sky Elves have a lore reason to be racist towards horde species
just make a skyborne that looks like a high elf and larp that you were one of the alliance elf units in the rts games.
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>>586465049
People like you is why I can't be bothered making smalltalk in 5men groups
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>>586465573
this made me laugh so hard i shamelessly tried to make it
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>>586464782
So what you're saying is Germany so overrun by browns that they had forgotten basic manners? That's rough bud.
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guys guys i thought of THE most hilarious name, my name will be "Nigger Nigger" LOL. it's a bit subtle so i expect most people won't get it, but for those who know *wink wink*
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>>586465806
>People like
What are you implying?
Because I didn't say anything beyond that, it's just you making assumptions. The worst ones ofc.
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>>586465849
i don't get it...
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>>586465849
woah! I can tell you're an Olympus member! probably high ranking
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>>586465654
Well, that's kind of the point...
>>586465819
Lel
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>>586465849
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>go on pvp ruleset
>make a horde character
>declined 4 times for pop imbalance
>5th time it goes through
why is everyone crying about it? took me less than 10 min
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>>586464895
>>586465334
retail tranny homogenization
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guy who writes for icyveins made his own private server on most recent client

Ice lane and fire blast share a cd

mount traniing is 80g, mount is 20g

dual spec is level 30 50g

frost blast is still there

so chances this is real, would he ruin his reputation to lie
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I refuse to believe finding raid/dungeon spots with Priest (healer) is easy when everyone wanting to heal literally plays one
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>>586466068
they dont try again
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>>586465712
I just dont like weapon and dual wield mastery being 5 points.
So you end up with like 2 point in weapon mastery and it just looks weird
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>>586466142
>Ice lane and fire blast share a cd
what the fuck, now it's just a meme
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>>586466142
>Ice lane and fire blast share a cd
there's no way
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>>586463665
>>586463850
I get the impression that the sooner I can excise this mind virus the better off I will be, and if I can do it without resubbing all the better
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they would not have given ice lance the same CD as fire blast if it didnt share CD with it
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>>586466068
that shit is going to screw me as a non blef boughter. if im behind the pack by even one yoctosecond i am blowing my head off
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>>586466142
What's the leveling spec for mages?
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>>586466142
What is that cooldown settings pane?
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>>586466448
default cooldown manager
>>586466380
frost
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>>586466142
where was this posted?
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Horde or alliance?
>inb4 streamer shit flinging
Literally do not care
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>>586466149
No one wants to heal
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>>586466448
New feature from retail.
Lets you pick and choose what spells show up as important cooldowns.
You can see them under the swing timer on his ui.
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>>586466448
theres a builtin cooldown ui that shows you when your abilities are ready to use again or how long theyre active
that is the window to manage the ui for it
pic is an example
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>>586466571
>>586466485
thank
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>>586466521
Are you PVP?
Go Horde.

Are you PVE?
Go Alliance.

Are you RP PVP?
Replay all the old Warcraft games then you'll know which side is right.
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>>586466521
Well if you don't care then just play whatever you want.
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>>586466615
>always visible
why would you ever choose this option?
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>>586466485
Do you AoE level or was that nerfed?
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>>586466284
That's pretty much where we are at broadly as a society with many such things so that is probably smart.
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>>586466725
you can even though it was nerfed
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pfffffft hahahahaha
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>>586466142
they should at the very least rename shit to make more sense.
>Ice lance -> Frost blast
>Frost blast -> Frost lance
so frost blast & fire blast shares CD or else it triggers my 'tism
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>>586466787
Still a cool character concept.
You just don't have any imagination.
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>>586466646
>Replay all the old Warcraft games then you'll know which side is right.
I can't play as the Scarlet Crusade
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>>586466502
teloril on a discord :)
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>>586466912
thats retarded
why would a honorable knight join the horde that rape and pillage innocents?
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>>586466978
yea mage discord I saw it :^)
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>>586466912
you shouldn't need imagination. you're paying blizzie for theirs. and it sucks ass.
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What do we think about madseason's new video?
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>>586457297
Orc baby on board
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>>586466646
>Replay all the old Warcraft games
I miss the summer of 2003, staying up late playing Warcraft 3 custom games

>wintermaul, my beloved
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>>586466553
But everyone that wants to heal plays Priest
>inb4 "but druid and paladins have more players"
Most paladins are going Ret and most druids are going Cat/Balance or tank. Priest has 2 healing specs so it's safe to say that most Priests are healers.
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So with all the megaserver shit, would I be able to group up and do dungeons/raids with friends on different rulesets? Like, if I was playing PvE and my buddy was PvP?
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>>586466984
>horde that rape innocents
??????
Warcraft is one of those rare fantasy universes where the orcs don't actually do raping considering they're all aliens from another world.
Hell I don't even think trolls have raped any elves or humans
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>>586467069
end of his career
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>>586466787
Seems cool. I don't like paladins as a class because they're inherently 'moralfags' but with an undead you could have some fun. Rp walk around the city mumbling to yourself 'the light....must remember the light' and moaning and shit.
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>>586466184
>>586466787
>>586466912
>>586466984


>tatterd robe
>the colors of lordaeron
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>>586467069
I didnt finish it. I dont even think I got to the halfway point.
He was whining too much about irrelevant stuff.
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>>586467069
he is and has continued to be right for as long as he was making videos. i expect this to die some miserable scuffed death in a couple months
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>>586467090
no
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>>586466984

because

>different horde
>abandoned by the humans
>even in death, they defend their homeland
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>>586467104
Maybe not literally, but the horde sure do metaphorically rape Azeroth.
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>>586467082
>But everyone that wants to heal plays Priest
I was hoping you'd get it and I wouldnt have to spell it out for you but you're a retarded anime poster so that explains it.
You dont see a lot of Priests because no one wants to heal to begin with.
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>>586467165
Forsaken will always be the most kino race just because they always try to look out for themselves.
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>>586467104
>>586467115
>paladin casting blessing of protection on an orc so he doesnt catch any STD from raping one of the hordes child sex slaves
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Why is she chained up anon

https://litter.catbox.moe/vweaogr709rcz9m4.png
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>>586467129
Already essentially selling mounts, won't take long for people who paid for those mounts to start bitching about mount training costs next-paving way for a wow token.
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>>586467232
didn’t realize horde was code for kosher
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>>586467069
i thought that was the guy that killed himself but i remembered that was the mittensquad guy
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>>586467261
What is she if not a slave to torment?
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>>586467273
the paid race already is worse for me
total war tier monetization, and its success means all new races will be paid. yeah it is fucked already, i anticipate maybe a month of fun if degenerates somehow manage to not fuck that up
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>>586467069
I don't understand how people can listen to these soft voice soi bois whining.
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>>586467082
Every priest that heals is one less druid or paladin thats forced to.
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if the game is actually good i don't mind buying more of it
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>>586467453
>DE every plate, mail and leather item with +healing on them
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>>586467069
call him a cynical jaded boomer, you'd be right, but that doesn't mean hes wrong.
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When the fuck is Blizzard going to add playable Murlocs? I yearn for the swamps
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>>586467516
Nobody wakes up and is like
>Huh I wanna be a faggot paladin healer or cast some faggot nature spells
When the alternative is using a big sword or turning into a fucking tiger or bear.
Anyone that says otherwise is lying to themselves and others.
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Priest or Mage for utility?

Portals just seem too useful compared to easy invites.
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>>586467203
I'm not talking about the healer player count relative to the total wow playerbase you dumb fucking retard I'm talking about the healer class player distribution, since I want to play one. I don't fucking care about Priest being "unpopular" overall if it's the most popular healing class you troglodyte pig get a hint. There's only 1 healer spot in a dungeon and now 2-3 in raids. You have to compete with other healers for that spot and RLs don't want to stack the same class.
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>>586467561
he is wrong because what he says is incorrect
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>>586467695
that's crazy
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>>586467665
>midriff
Zoomer here. Why was this so prevalent in the early 2000s?
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>>586467580
ye best be likin' the swamp! yer in one!
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>>586467695
can you help me by pointing directly to, or stating the incorrect part
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>>586467752
because its hot, duh.
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>>586467694
>RLs don't want to stack the same class.
No one would object to multiple PoMs flying around. Dont fucking (You) me when you dont even know how this game works.
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What is gonna be the least popular class on release, so I can be a contrarian?
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>>586467880
Warlock
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>>586467880
dwarf shaman
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>>586467880
Apparently it's Mage. Based on the statistics of the beta. But we don't know how accurate it truly is.
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>>586467665
Always go Mage.
I got in game blowjobs on rp servers as long as I provided free portals and food.
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>>586467752
peak slut fashion
every girl did it and it was amazing
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>>586467752
people were less fat back then
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if they just actually banned addons instead of half-assing it people would have substantially less reasons to complain about the game
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>>586467069
Couldn't sit through it. Just him whining about nonissues. He also isn't even a wow player anymore, he just does osrs while only making a wow vid for clicks on new releases.
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>>586467994
how would they do it though?
aren't addons all client side?
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>>586467804
far to many
just listen to him, then go back 10-20 seconds and hear him say the opposite
its base hypocrisy and logical fallacies
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>>586467752
Are we gonna pretend girls these days don't dress sluttier than ever as far as modern history goes?
I don't know where you're from, but as far as I'm concerned, zoomer bitches sport a midriff more than millenials did.
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madseason is one of those dad gamers in denial.
I'll be laughing as everyone outpaces him while he jerks off over osrs
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>>586467880
Nightelf mailbox stripper
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>>586468086
My faith in humanity was lost when I was working and a dad and what was, i assume, around 12 year old daughter who had booty shorts and a crop top on came into my store. Dad didn't even look depressed, probably rapes his own kid.
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>>586468006
>>586468051
>"the thing i said would happen to classic, happened! and, get this, it is likely to happen again, and already partially has!"
>hypejeets say he will be wrong THIS TIME
ok step 1
the cash shop, paid race, paid guide, are all retail features that people don't want but they're there. thoughts?
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>>586468197
yes and?
everyone hates them
he says nothing of value
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the real question is, since dwarf shaman will be the least played class and race. will male or female dwarf shaman be more popular? will the viking larper male dwarves beat out the agp (forced to play dwarf shaman to please their tank daddy) sissies?
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>>586463850
dismal.

if only reporters were at risk(doubly so) of reporting unworthy things.
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>>586468197
stop sucking his dick bro.
he's retarded about game balance and all those things you listed are non-issues. people will just ignore retail features.
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>>586468029
all blizzard would have to do is strip the api from the client and then addons would mostly* be as complex as macros
doing this wouldnt achieve much though as its basically as minimal as what xiv has and people still make plugins, addons and memory readers for that game
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>>586468257
>everyone hates them
>he says nothing of value
a voice of dissent amongst all the hideous sucking noises as you suck blizzard's puckered anus?
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>>586468264
i like femdwarf animations but its really tough to forgo the beard
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>>586468307
no one defends skyborne or the bought mounts and mtx
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You can use doom in pvp as warlock right?
The idea of using doom against a low level and watching them just run around for a minute before exploding sounds really fun.
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>>586467069
made the tryhards mald so it's good
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>>586468292
ok so he was right

well thanks guys, i am glad we cut to the crux of the issue so easily. wow token in 3 months is a bet im making with a friend and i think i'm going to be marginally richer later
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>>586467880
Warlock, Rogue, Priest. https://wowcensus.io/
Census data shows Mage as the 4th least played overall and the least played @ 30, with the other three trailing behind. However, if you look at census data for any other classic release you will see Mage in top 3.
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>wowg doomtroon raid
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>>586468387
Sorry for your loss
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>>586454443
it's funny because someone actually gave this post an answer.. that guy is one of the few people who have mastered that particular instrument. Even if i were twittarded enough to share such a bitchy entitled sentiment about him being white... who the fuck else are they gonna get?
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Are orc warlocks cool? I only ever see undead locks
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is this the best warrior pvp build?
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>>586468434
>wowg's master plan is to bring this down by pointing out unfavourable similarities and patterns in their own game
i didn't know wowg hated their own game AND forever waow
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what do i choose help
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>>586468453
yeah
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>>586468453
do I like mint chocolate ice cream?
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Now that the day draws near I need to decide what the fuck I want my main character to be. Was thinking Horde so I can play a hot shaman bitch but I dunno.
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>>586468453
yeah
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>>586468512
top right then slowly transition into bottom left as you level to 60.
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>>586468453
yea, green gymbro throwing fire and dark spells is cool af
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>>586468264
Literally why the fuck did they not allow sky elves to be shamans on Alliance (or mage on Horde)?
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>>586468190
Yeah that is so common. Also don't forget the choker.
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>>586468512
top right
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>>586468592
lore reasons.

Alliance sky elves are chuds who want to rely on arcane magic.

Horde Sky elves are nature lovers who know its retarded to get addicted to magic since that's what happens to elves in wow
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so they are ditching 40 man raids as the main raid format? that's lame and gay.
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Will he return?
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you will buy the $29:99 gilneas expansion
you will buy the $14.99 next elf reskin
you will buy the $19.99 wow tokens that they're adding on february 10th 2027
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>>586467880
SHADOW. PRIEST.
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>>586468512
SD models first
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>>586468264
Feels like whenever the question of who is rolling what comes up, dwarf shaman comes as the majority question.
Seems to me everyone has been gaslit to think it's unpopular so when it comes down to it, there will be overabundance of shamans on the alliance side.
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>>586468687
They didn't have to make the lore like that
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>>586468696
yeah after he's done running when he realizes whatever was chasing the two of you ate you and reset.
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>>586468716
it’s already confirmed in map data that Gilneas will be a battleground called Battle for Gilneas.
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>>586458551
just make SnD a fucking passive already, why the FUCK do they insist on keeping it a button?
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>>586468716
draenei cross race next, $30 as well, i would also gamble on that. maybe the horde ones are red
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>>586468508
in group pvp yeah youre probably forced to go down arms still for MS, but I'd go 31/20 so you can get 5 points in enrage. Drop parry, bloodthrill and imp hamstring
in 1v1s im thinking fury is the best now, 18/33 probably
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Only 4 more days until WoW Forever bros!
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>>586468687
>lore
you mean some shit aggrend dumped one morning in an exec meeting? >>586468824
never happening. we will see draenei in the dark portal themed expansion however, velen most likely wil
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>>586468716
I would pay $60 to play as a murloc
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>>586468687
they could have just said that living in a literal elemental plane for 10 gorillion years infused elemental magic into them inherently too. that's how all elves got their magic anyways, just absorbing it from their environment
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>>586468820
Retard
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troll rogue actually sounds devilish

>imp gouge incapacitates for 5.5 seconds
>troll regen active is 6 seconds


and hoping in and out of stealth you can bleed someone the fuck out while you're regening
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looks like i'll be sticking to classic if they're already turning this into retoilet 2
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Can't wait to finally get some retail-quality mounts in classic!
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>game is forever
>it's supposed to be horizontal
>but new added raids have to add better gear.

How the fuck is this going to work? in games like runescape there's the wilderness where you can lose your items so its still always worth it to refarm gear.

What's going to stop people from raid logging?
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>>586469021
if what i am reading in this thread is correct, the same paypigs are funding this production too, no matter how abusive the monetization is, so don't get your hopes up even a little bit
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>>586468991
what class are you using this on that has 0 dots or pets on u
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rogues are for cowards
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>>586452508
I love this pic and I'll be going ret this time
I remember being in stormwind on SoD and seeing shit tons of ret pallies with shiny new gear
it's aggrends game I won't be missing out this time
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>>586469146
you don't have to respawn at your corpse lil bro. you can always respawn at the graveyard
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>>586469072
legacy points
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>>586469072
mogsmountscheevos are in
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Wait a minute so like Forever is supposed to have horizontal progression but like... You do stuff in it? Huh? How does that work??????
Oh god my little brain hurty...
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>>586454583
your wife will die million of times in WoW forever.
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it's called horizontal progression because it makes you want to lie down and take a nap
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I'm going Alliance PVP for the first time since they're always outnumbered and I want the underdog experience.

Does this change the pvp experience?
And some anons say Alliance players on pvp are pussies who'll just watch you die, this isn't true right?
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JIZZARD
GIVE ME A FROZEN WRATH SERVER AND MY SUB IS YOURS
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will they ruin forever by making it retail wearing a vanilla skin suit?
not liking what im hearing about with the sharding issues and trying to push 10 mans for raiding tiers
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>>586469425
i nap vertically
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>play wow forever
>start at level 1
>hit level 2
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
I THOUGHT THIS GAME HAD HORIZONTAL PROGRRSSION?????
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>>586469453
>will they ruin forever by making it retail wearing a vanilla skin suit?
yes
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Horizontal was never going to work because the wow devs are not willing to make the grinds long. It works in OSRS because shit like lvling professions and what not takes a really really really long time, so once you get it finished it feels good and you don't have to do it again. But the wow devs are not willing to do it and not only that but have made it easier to both lvl and farm professions in forever. They're kind of betting on 'just make alts' to carry them but I doubt that's what people were really looking for when they said they wanted a permanent evergreen world to play wow in.
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>>586469489
you're not thinking outside the box
you're going
1
2
when you could be going 1 2 (horizontally)
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>wake up
>retarded e-celeb still shilling himself
>wake down
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Ill be on EU PVE tanking for you on horde side.
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>>586468197
>paid race
has been a thing since the very first expansion
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>>586469453
yea it's pretty much the worst parts of vanilla and retail somehow combined to some hojpoj of slop. it will be fun for maybe a month though because it is hyped to shit, but it will just make it all the funnier when blizzard inevitably fucks it up and 90% of pop quits
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>>586469453
As always. As people slowly lose interest. They will add boost to alongside the new races and use that as justification, which will drive away the forever fans and just have it be a playpen for the diaper babies from retail.
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>>586469537
>just make alts
unless they have some super reward for leveling every class to 60. people are gonna run out of alts to make
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>>586469553
Woaaah
True.
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>>586469453
it's not looking good sis i hear they're even doing 5 man raids and they're called dungos or something this is literally just like retail
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>>586469443
everything they say is correct
you will suffer and hate yourself for picking alliance pvp
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>>586468696
He said it looked like retail minus and won't be playing it. So remember whenever you see someone calling forever "retail" they are sharing the some opinion as this massive fuckwit.
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>>586469608
>blizzard inevitably fucks it up and 90% of pop quits
I think it's already a fuck up if everyone just raid logs and forever seems to be heading in that trajectory.
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>>586469443
this will be you in exactly 3 weeks from now
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>>586469489

you had to run forward to get that xp

horizontal
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>>586469537
>reset character to level 1
>gain 1 additional stat point to put wherever, str/int/stam
>every 10 resets gets you a free talent point
Let's find out just how autistic you people really fucking are
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>>586469623
Blizzard 'a balancing in forever is the equivalent of the make-up shotgun. Its effectiveness and spread will scare enough people to cover as many alts/bases as possible so they could always be on top. By making horrible patches, they are forcing people to invest horizontally in their account.
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>>586469602
>wow has always been p2w because you have to pay the sub to play and win
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>>586469443
yes, you have plenty of noshoe niggers to target and kill. it's open season.
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world of warcraft is reclining...
horizontally...
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>>586460032
AI has ruined video game leaks. Everyone disregards every leak as fake AI slop. Someone posted K. Rool from DK Bananza on /v/ and 90% of the replies called it AI.
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>>586469581
Same but Alliance.
Cant wait to lead kindergarten groups to dungeons.
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>>586469443
Horde will always shamelessly attack you in unfair fights. Stack hit chance so you can fuck em up even if they're higher level. Nothing gave me more satisfaction than being a lvl 53 killing lvl 60s with ease.
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Why compels a man to roll on a PvE server? Sure you want to avoid PvP? Fine, I get it. In my opinion that's what hardcore is for but I understand it. But rolling PvE over RP? You have to be the most soulless loser on planet earth. They might as well rename PvE to "Raid Logging". Its gayer than gay sex with eye contact
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>>586469831
This + controller seems pretty good
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>>586469831
are forever-shills really going to grind to collect points to do things like profession tools or to eliminate reagent cost, which is also in retail???
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>>586469928
its fun
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>>586469928
RP server is even gayer and half the thread is rolling there.
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>>586469682
unironically they will most likely try to do those stupid esport 5 man dungeon difficulty slop
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>>586469950
I'm going to grind so I can wpvp until the wpvp is dead and then quit
simple as
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>>586469928
RP is just ERP, and everyone on RP servers is a fucking illiterate mongoloid anyway. How the fuck am I supposed to take any of them seriously when they can barely spell? You're 30, a native English speaker, and you still don't know the difference between lose and loose? Jesus fucking wept.
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>>586469928
RP servers are just PvE servers with less players
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>>586470004
>Role playing servers in a roleplaying game is even gayer than paying $15/month to raid 4 times a month and get angry is you didnt 99 parse
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Tell the truth, how mad are you going to be when you're stuck in a queue of ten thousand losers like yourself on launch day, as streamers get a smooth and seamless launch with no disconnects and even have simps giving them money from the very first minute they log-in
Remember you pay blizzard big bucks for the game to be run like this + tip
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>X is just Y
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>>586470016
Esports slop is all about speed. I want calculated dungeons where CC and all class tools are tested.
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when are they adding sunwalkers
i aint playing a goddamn undead
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>>586469928
>play on RP
>faggots everywhere doing faggy shit
>others get butthurt over some gay ass rules
>play on PvE
>can just do whatever
>is fun
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>>586469928
TRVKE
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>>586470075
people just don't realize there's more events on rp servers.
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>>586470141
literally the opposite is true
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>>586470016
omg so true, unironically that will happen right after they put the token on the store and they sell super awesome adventurer starter set bundle that will give you epics at level 1 and a 1000% exp buff with unlimited duration this is literally just like retail
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>>586470213
they basically already are, with transmog and selling the skins
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a quick reminder that wowpedia doesn't receive any updates anymore (since 2023)
https://warcraft.wiki.gg/
use this instead
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>>586470181
Log in rp server
>dwarf says aye
Log in normal server
>dwarf says hi
Log in private server
>dwarf says NIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGER
I know where ill be logging in come November 4th.
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>>586470230
>he has to play on the tryhard min/max server to beat 25 year old dadgamer console game
>not retarded
pick one
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>>586470278
i meant to say you're retarded if you're NOT playing RP but i guess I'M retarded
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>>586470181
I've seen nothing but distilled cringe and autism on RP servers. I will not read your character's biography
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so is forever DOA after the leaks?
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>>586470364
It's so fucking over
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>>586470138
this but blood elves.
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>>586470261
big true this is totally retail minus hecking yikes can't believe everyone wants to play this slop
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>>586453837
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV-QxeJ9oHo
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>>586470349
every server got freaks doing freaky shit in private
if you ever tried to play on a rp server you would notice its no different from pve server, well other than being more mature and less kids spamming shit in general chat
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>>586470364
>worgen
>purple elves (horde)
Yeah it's dead on arrival
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>>586465334
for a moment i just thought it was a thought bubble for the gnome and i guffawed
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>>586470364
it's so over my neighbor told me he refunded
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>>586470364
it was always DOA. here's how you can always tell: just look at what they say then reverse - that is the reality. if they call it forever, then it is cope, and emotional blackmail because they know it's not forever and that their time has run out. ALWAYS do this whenever any corporation or government speak out.
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>>586470456
Fucking what?!
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Reminder that you STILL won't be able to play when the countdown timer hits zero.

>>586470364
Post leaks pls. I've been banned, haven't been privy to developments the last couple of days.
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>>586470349
>>586470421
you don't even have to go that far in an rp server.

All you have to do is just keep the immersion alive.
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Can't wait to see all the new quests and shit. I have no inclination to grovel before rando guild members for a slot and work my life around raid schedules, nor do I particularly give a shit about tryhard PvP leader boards. I just like my big open world single player game
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>>586470414
Das rite
Also they have a DEI hire running the servers, no wonder they fucked up with the sharding
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>play pve
>raidlog simulator
>play rp
>get mass reported for wanting to exterminate mudhutters
>play pvp
>get corpse camped by NEETs
>play rp pvp
>get mass reported for roleplaying as someone who wants to exterminate mudhutters, also get corpse camped by roleplaying NEETs
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>>586470364
Yes.
Now delete your horde characters on the pvp server so I can make them.
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>>586470349
RP is literally distilled cringe and autism tho .... definitionally so. you have to be willing to suspend your skepticism or else it's not for you.
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I only want to play this to play with my friends, if they announce an expansion AT ALL im quitting immediately and i assume my friends will as well and I will very likely never pay for another blizzard game again
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>>586470525
>>586470543
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Give it to me straight, what discord is raiding us currently?
Or its just retoiletards seething before launch?
In the last 24 hours the amount of "forever will turn to shit, Im going back to X" did a 15x compared to last week.
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>>586470675
What's a darkfallen elf?
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>>586470595
You will NOT disparage la ogrilla de las americana. She is cuter than the sort of women available to 90% of the people posting here, and shall be treated as such.
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>>586470709
See Sylvanus.
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>>586470729
she's a wraith though
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>>586470709
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>>586470597
>get mass reported for wanting to exterminate mudhutters
>get mass reported for roleplaying as someone who wants to exterminate mudhutters, also get corpse camped by roleplaying NEETs

This isn't nearly true as you think it is. There were literal scarlet crusade guilds where you could have this view.
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>>586463324
pet is a source of infinite fof procs and is sitting in a fear or dead

nah i get what you mean, in a 1v1/1v2 setting etc pet can do a lot of legwork
but you can still call your pet at anytime with lonewolf, it doesnt disable it.
in bg's play lonewolf unless you're solo defending a base or similar
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>>586470675
unauthentic and homosexual.
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>>586470729
>adding purple sex elves to horde
Horde just keeps winning.
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>>586468453
>look awesome in cloth
>best casting animations in the game
>the most lore appropriate race for the class
Naturally.
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>>586470719
anyone who works in tech can tell you that the combination of both latinx and foid means they got where they are not due to merit
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>>586470764
>There were literal scarlet crusade guilds where you could have this view
>were
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>>586470749
fuck the alliance. I'm rerolling to horde now
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>>586470675
sounds hype, maybe i should wait for the worgens before making my alliance warlock
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>>586470748
She's a banshee, and she possessed her own corpse.
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>>586470786
it's very likely though. the new legendary quest apparently has you blessing some kind of branch which is believable
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>>586470632
>if they do the thing they'd been doing for twenty years again this time i'll be thhhhhuper mad!
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>>586470597
>implying RP-PvP players give a smidgen of an iota of a fuck about fantasy racism
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>>586470749
Are they a race in retail? Are their animations just retooled elves?
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>>586470482
What's this
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>>586470821
the autism thing about rp servers is true to be fair.
scarlet crusade guilds usually imploded from discord drama.
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>>586470709
Quite literally a forsaken elf. That's it.
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>>586470868
when is the last classic expansion they released?
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>>586470708
Just a couple of seething retail players with a couple of anons replying to them sarcastically to mock them
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>>586470871
No they are a character customization option lmao (I never saw anyone use it)
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I'm going with herbalism + mining on my mage.
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>>586470817
Anyone in tech can also tell you that more than one person works on something as important as server infrastructure.

la ogrilla de las americanas was sent to look cute and repeat talking points while the men who actually run the servers were busy getting the servers ready.

'merica.
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Just got word from the friend group

PvP (Alliance) is the plan. It's been decided. Night Elf Druid it is.
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>>586470850
In your head it's believable.
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>>586470675
>ally gets another town for themselves
>horde gets uhhhh... another color of elf I guess
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>>586470708
It's a small group of legit trannies and they're all going to be playing forever. These people are beyond broken sadly
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>>586470990
Herbalism+Mining in classic/forever is a bit retarded desu because you can't track both things at the same time
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>>586470675
lol sure buddy
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>>586470749
Anya...
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>>586470749
im racechanging my hunter instantly if we get this
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>>586471001
see you in few months when you eat your words, can't wait for the grudgepost
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>>586471041
>you can't track both things at the same time
https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/forever-dual-gathering
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>>586471093
Oh didn't know that was possible, neat
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>>586471086
See you then! Can't wait to make a super hecking awesome worgen bro it's gonna be just like my retail!
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>>586471093
>Automatically switches between Find Herbs and Find Minerals.
They're both on the GCD
If you get jumped while farming you are going to get RAPED brutally
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>>586471151
you're delusional if you think worgen aren't in the plans considering gilneas is not accessible and you get kill on sight there
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>>586471141
>>586471041
You don't even need an addon, just make a castsequence macro and mash it like the autist you arewhen you're running around.
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>>586471093
100% this is gonna get btfoed
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>>586471206
>it doesnt stop in combat
sure buddy
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>>586471219
worgen being planned != the bullshit you posted is accurate
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>>586470597
>don't be a faggot
>game is suddenly fun
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>>586471293
>already backpedaling
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>>586471093
>bootleg gatherer
ok lol
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>>586471219
Nah i bet worgen will happen for sure sis, i know the devs said it won't happen but ummm you know i bet they're just saying that to surprise me :D
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>>586470675
This is obviously complete nonsense, they straight up said no retail races are planned and darkfallen is beyond retarded as I doubt we're going to northrend this early.
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>>586471347
also works in real life
>>586471357
>pointing out logical inconsistency is backpedaling
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Any cool new gadgets for engineering?
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Someone bake a new bread please, I have gnome titties to post.

>>586471471
GOBLIN GLIDER
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>>586471376
>>586471381
yeah we should definitely trust blizzard on their word, they NEVER lied before
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>>586471471
Yeah there's a new toy thing called Retoilet and when you use it a loud audible BRAAAAAAAP plays and it summons some kind of invasion event.
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>>586471381
They better fucking add murlocs.
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>>586471471
Teleporters as an alternative to mage jews
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>>586471567
I'm gonna be a mage AND an engineer and keep teleporting around the world because it's fun
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>>586471381
They also said this is classic + and it's being made in the spirit of vanilla while adding the most blatant retail asset race they could find with skyborne and shoved it into wow forever
neutral both faction race btw
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>>586471524
That's what i'm saying sis. I would never ever EVER trust a developer, definitely not fat donut eating man, because i'm a raped bitch who has PTSD from le jewish lawyer
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>>586471524
Darkfallen is complete fucking meme that we don't even know if even exist in this timeline in this moment and have absolutely fucking zero reason to join anything as they're scourge soldiers, this is bait and you're low IQ.

>>586471558
Another retard, no one wants these joke races that have 0 fucking lore

>>586471679
If you think belvs are 'retail' then there's no point in even discussing anything
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only 10 more cooms until forever bwos
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This is classic +, here's your class homogenization shaman and paladins for both factions
Totally in the spirit of vanilla wow
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>>586471754
it's tomorrow?
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>>586471754
I am 38 and I can only cum once per day
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>>586471795
Seems normal for fossils like you t b h
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>>586471791
Thank you this looks wonderful.
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>>586471743
>>586471682
the grudgepost is gonna feel so good
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>>586470875
China package you will see posted here in following days by doomtroons.
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>>586471795
I can go 3 times at 41
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If people don't like the game, why do they come here to shitpost about it? Don't they have anything better to do?

I haven't been a regular on this shithole in years, so pretend I posted a reaction image of an anime girl with a "?" somewhere in the image.
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>>586471930
unc really larping as a teenager by forcing himself to shoot blanks LMAO, you should have kids you faggot loool
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>>586471635
>teleporter malfunctions
>you end up in a battle you have no chance of winning
>>586471743
>don't even know if they even exist
>Sylvanas
>Anya from the WC3 campaign
>the mercenary Darkfallen Rangers, also from the WC3 campaign, that you can buy an unlimited number of
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>>586471795
i started going down to like once or twice a day by my mid 20s but it picked up again recently because gooning with ai is fun and is super easy compared to like setting up erp with someone
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>Over 30 now
>Only have a SINGLE undead character in my roster
Guess I'm an adult now.
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>>586471970
its a mystery as old as the internet
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>>586472074
G R I M
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>>586469537
Horizontal could work but pointing to OSRS isnt the way to do it. OSRS is a profession skills game, WoW is not. They should really be looking at EVE for game longevity since fighting over resources fits WoW's gameplay way more than OSRS does.
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>>586471854
Don't squirt out of your little clitty cage yet sis, you gotta mark down the date in your diary.
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>>586466725
>>586466380
If like me you're on a PVE server and not the most interested in AOE farming, Arcane takes over Frost as the leveling spec.
It makes sense because compared to a dungeon/raid setting you will have more downtime and get more opportunities to burst on mobs and then regen mana.
Also Improved Wand is the tit at lower levels.
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>Azeroth, beckons US back to home!
Bitch who the FUCK is you
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>>586471794
wtf isn't it like 2.5 or 3 days or so?
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>>586472187
thats my keyholder
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>>586471795
36 and can probably go once 3-4 days in a row but then I need a day or two rest. If I'm having sex, I'm not masturbating or its just going to make the whole thing last an hour with my wife.
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>>586472187
would
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>>586472187
This was so fucking gay. It came off as some poser chick pretending their totally know all those screamo bands you used to listen to in high school.
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>>586472109
>29
>only make femnelves and femhumies
the AGP goes away the minute I turn 30, r-right?
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>>586472137
idk it's nice not having to deal with another person, and the freedom compared to like h vidya is so so nice
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/wowfg/ - old men cumming general.
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>>586472041
You guys don't even know what you're arguing for, random forsaken elves are not darkfallen. The reanimated elf vampires scourge from Northrend are darkfallen.
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>>586469884
2016 called they want their faction autism back
both factions do it because they're the exact same players
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>>586472304
30ish isn't old, fucker.

>>586472290
anon, I...
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>>586472304
>old men
wtf but i'm not even 30, you mean to tell me this place is full of UNCS??
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>>586469928
>PVE player: don't roll PVP, it sucks and everybody knows it
>PVP player: HOW DARE THESE RETARDS ROLL PVE WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THEM
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>>586471381
Why the fuck would the devs say what they are adding next? They are of course gonna lie about any future content. Goblin HD models are already in the game and Tinker was on the survey too.
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>>586472418
learn to read jeet
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>>586472304
Im only 29.5 years old YOU SICK FUCK.
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Yo guys, are there already WoW Forever addons out there? I see WoW Forever addons on Curse Forge, are they for Beta? Or the full game???
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make a new fucking thread
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>>586472475
I look like this and say this
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>>586472485
gnome fucking thread
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>>586472475
I will look like this in 10 years
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>>586472485
EoS, sorry bro.
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>>586472317
they are going to use the nightborne models
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>>586472475
I'm a retard who couldn't into computer science, but my retarded vibeanswer is that they're the retail (or beta) version of mods put up as the full version.

If the full version breaks the game, the mod author (might) fix it soon after release.

Use your head, faggot.
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>>586472568
Which is basically the NELF skeleton
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>>586472475
this is me when i'm living in the back of a van in 30 years thinking about how this site is dead and everyone trooned out
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>>586472602
yeah and animations
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>>586472586
I am 41 years old.
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>>586472568
Skelves would've been based off this model if Blizzard weren't absolute fucking cowards.

Blizz still has a chance to redeem themselves by giving us a Wretched player race using this model instead of Quel'thalas elves, though.
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>>586472647
how are you this old??
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>>586470675
This is true btw
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>>586472317
No, those are San'layn AKA vampire elves. They're technically also Darkfallen, but Darkfallen are the catch all term for undead elves.
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>>586472647
damn ur pp must STINK unc
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i want tbc fresh with Forever additions and I want it now
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>>586472670
timeskip magic
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>>586471970
there are actual 40 year old men who are so lonely and pathetic they use troon level irony to get replies for dopamine and attention
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>>586472726
Nobody wants to play that dogshit as expansion
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>>586472670
My mom and dad had seggs many years ago.
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>>586472689
Darkfallen was first used for the vampire elves
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>>586472668
Skelf are supposed to be Belf+Helf
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>>586472767
i do
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>>586472475
Yeah they are for the release version.
You can check ingame after downloading.
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>>586472683
let them cope it's fake so I can have bigger satisfaction with a grudgepost
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>>586472812
you are nobody
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>>586472796
You are retarded. Stop posting about matters you know nothing about.
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>>586472187
Lmao still can't believe this shit real
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>>586472759
this is me to a point
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>>586472857
>posted shortly before Microsoft acquisition

I wonder if the literal fascists at Microsoft de-trooned Blizzard. It's not like that would be something they wrote articles about.
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>>586472825
Cool thanks frend. Do you also know that if I add game time now, the count down will begin when Forever releases, or does it start today? I haven't had a blizz subscription since 2013.
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>>586472850
I think you misinterpreted my post. I just mean they're supposed to be placeholder models for the other elves for players of either faction that want to play them or RP as. Because Blizzard will never be straightforward about race additions.
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>>586472602
At least they gave them different stance.
As opposed to copypasted sky elfs
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guys I’m worried that wow forever won’t last… forever
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>>586472917
>I wonder if the literal fascists at Microsoft de-trooned Blizzard.
the california rot is way too deep they straight up got extorted through a fake lawsuit man they're probably more woke than a lot of the other woke retard studios like the gears devs or bioware
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New thread?
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how much can i trust that this 30 day sub from the good goy package will activate the very second it's supposed to at launch? i should probably sub now to be sure...
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>>586472928
Oh, yes, indeed.

I think it would've been better to give us Nightborne model skelves and save belfs for the Quel'Thalas patch, personally.
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>>586472776
As of the Sylvanas novel in 2022, Darkfallen is the "proper" catch all term. Considering they reused it for the Forsaken Kingdoms expansion in WC3, it's likely that they'll use "Darkfallen" in the same context.
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>>586473049
Microsoft makes software for the western empire, they don't give a fuck about what California has to say.

source: pulled straight out of my asshole
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>>586472419
>DUDE TINKER
>it was in one of the dozens of retarded bullshit surveys bro one of those ones with like 20 different class concepts that never have been used
>BROOOOO MY TINKER IT'S HAPPENING THIS TIME FOR REAL
You are pathetic.
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>>586473069
The play is to get the free week using the friend code and then top up.
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>>586472923
If you buy sub now it will start ticking immidietly.
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>>586472825
>what's training?
Convenient, stealing this.
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y'all check out the new madseason video?
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>>586473307
Forevershills aren't gonna like this one
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>>586473160
They have never mentioned new classes in past surveys yet put out a Forever survey exclusively for new classes.
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If one of you faggots doesn't make a new thread soon, I'm making a Gnome Is For Hypnotize Edition.

I'll fucking do it.
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>>586473307
Yeah, hes right.
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>>586473042
honestly kind of insulting to call it forever, like they're confident it'll be their aging millennial cashcow for years to come
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>>586473356
OK nobody else make a thread.
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>>586472187
outlander
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>>586473352
You can't lie to me retard i know more than you. Of course they've mentioned new classes in past surveys this has happened a dozen times they have all sorts of retarded concepts like TITANSLAYER and they're all cringe and fuck and none of them are ever happening (thank god).
Definitely not in forever that's for sure. If tinker were to ever happen it's in gay ass retail where it would belong.

You're not getting tinker here and you're not getting another elf. Please keep your cringe RP to yourself.
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>>586473307
he sounds bald
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>>586451654
He's knowledgeable and I like his videos generally but he makes too many for me. I stopped watching him like two weeks ago because I can't keep up.
>>586452846
If that is true I will respect him even more though kek.
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>>586473525
>you're not getting another elf
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gnome thread doko...
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>>586473180
fugg, ill wait until wednesday then
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what class would charlie kirk play
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bake the fking thread already or im gonna
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>>586473678
just buy it now and you can fuck around in era until the 4th
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>>586473648
>>586473392
>>586473356
>>586473723
I'm gonna be honest, I don't have the hypnotized gnome image on my computer.

>>586473698
White human male paladin.
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>>586473698
Human paladin yeah
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>>586474007
>>586474007
>>586474007
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>>586468937
Not an argument faggot, SnD was dated design in 2004
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>>586472857
>views are my own <333333
You can't say this and then also have the company you work for slapped on the front too, you're representing your company now whether you want to or not. Fucking low-IQ apes.



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