>News, Dev Blogposts & Podcasthttps://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/>Patch Noteshttps://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-october-26/2360696/8>Talent Calculatorhttps://wowforevertalents.com/>DatesName Reservations open now for skyborne pack purchasers.The journey begins on November 4>>586451368
OGRES
cowtits edition.
human hunter
female human magepvpsolo
gay
>>586474054it's an okay threadwould have been better with hypnotized gnome, but this will do
only thing good about the horde is fem taurens
>>586474096this + bloog elves
>>586474007>pic"How to kill Forever forever"
>/wowg/ put forever in their edition to trick people into going there
Anon, why are (You) still not using OneForAll, the best addon for Forever?
I bought pic related for a number of equally essential reasons.1. I know for a fact I'll be playing this game for the next year anyways2. I like murlocs3. To flex on poors4. It will piss off you, specifically, when I run by you at 2am in Searing Gorge.
>>586474172I'm not trans (idk what that is)
>>586474172useless bloat
ALEXENSUAL RUNS THIS GENERAL
Why are Gnomes the biggest racetraitors?
Was? Wtf.. why?
Okay real talk, where the fuck do you find a guild to play and raid and have fun with? The ones in the OP don't apply
Taking suggestions for non-ai slop non-pajeet addons written by and for straight white males.
>>586474257china loves p2w
>>586474176I really don't like the tabard and like the backpack from Epic Forever pack more. But what about the 6-month bonus is that just a placeholder or does the silhouette fit what we get?If it's a pet who cares but if it's a little mini-mount that would be cool. I don't want to miss out on that.
>>586474257chinese are bugs
>Darkfallen and worgen badOkay but hear me out
>>586474271>the ones in the opare the guilds with us in the room right now
>>586474271just play the game and join a guild that looks good
>>586474369your mom is
Worgen - AllianceDruid Hunter Mage Priest Rogue Warlock Warrior BloodmageIncrease crit chance + you don't need a knife for skinningGain movespeed when running towards a low health targetActive short distance leap to a target. Range increased vs low hp targetsActive running wild. Get on all fours as a mount, just like retail versionDoes not get a human form racial. They can only go human form from the new legendary.Darkfallen - HordeHunter Mage Paladin Priest Rogue Warlock Warrior Bloodmage20% reduced duration from charm, fear, sleepAutomatic heal when dropped to low healthActive causes your attacks to steal health from target for a short timeActive fires a dark arrow that reduces healing receivedYes you do have to buy the new bundle to play the new class.
>>586474352>worgen are cool!>posts a worgen model that 100% will not be the model available to players
>>586474257>These datamined items aren't for wow forever they're for retail
>>586474440whats crazy is that I look like that
>>586474257Did you miss all the other Choyna exclusive shit they've been getting since the reintroduction of WoW there?
>>586474272Bellular made a good video covering the essentials https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GEmk7Fci2E
>>586474201it's the opposite anon, it allows you to remove the useless bloat of 20 addons doing miniscule things by collecting them all in one place.
>>586474257WTF that's so unfair I want that transmog set as well and the bags would be so useful man
>>586474492I only need 3 out of those 20
>>586474352>horde gets even more elvesfor fucks sake no
>>586474420Neither of those are goblins or ogres.
>>586474272Literally every addon, EVERY one of them, is coded using AI.
so, blizzard roaches in this chat - is the leak true and real? paid races and content soon? seriously?answer me - is that true?just don't lie
>>586474540If they look like that I wouldn't even be mad
>>586474551Correct. Those are things people actually want.
>>586474325>But what about the 6-month bonus is that just a placeholder or does the silhouette fit what we get?>If it's a pet who cares but if it's a little mini-mount that would be cool. I don't want to miss out on that.It's the 2027 chinese new year pet (and mount for retail) that have yet to be revealed. They show it here: https://youtu.be/0ms8RnjdDnA?t=34
>>586474257The Chinese genuinely just fucking love cheating in all its forms, including P2W. It's deeply embedded in their culture for whatever reason. Even after listening to Chinese people explain it to me, I don't entirely understand it, I just know it's true.
>>586474491you should go on a diet
>>586474582My father is Nintendo and I can confirm it's true
Reminder that the Chinese paying Blizzard for the privilege of ruining their shitty servers with P2W bullshit is a good thing for both Blizzard and American players. Fuck Tencent.>>586474491Fatullar is retarded.
>>586474601That's what I just said.
If they eventually bring WoW Forever to consoles, I don't think their current monetization model will work very well. ESO already proved that the combination of an upfront purchase price + subscription + paid expansions (on top of the console's own online subscription) isn't sustainable in the long run, and they eventually had to change their business model.
>>586474257Wow, can't even sell my bags to the fucking chinese in the AH.
>>586474610That's lame why don't we get a cool mount as well?
>>586474257They need to put this on america tooFuck the poorfags gimme dat shit
>>586474702Because you dont paypig enough
How do you do fellow Forever enjoyers. I too will play Forever. I had a pretty cool thought, what if they added a bunch of retail races? It would be so easy to port them over! We could maybe get worgen and maybe pandaren remember that chen guy from WC3??? Maybe then vulpera or something sexy like that?Idk lemme know your thoughts!
>>586474007taurens cant use spears
You'll login day 1 without adds right? All that extra shit could make unstable connection even worse? Or does it not matter?
>>586474782why would that matter
>>586474782kek this fucking boomerwhat year is it
>>586474491>ask google AI for a summary>it spits back a bunch of bullshit, surely its hallucinating>check the video >its all realDo people really play like this? I have like, 3 or 4 addons max. Recount and threat meter are two of them.
>>586474672I'm kind of surprised they didn't go the F2P microtransaction-ridden model other MMO's have gone with in Forever, but i suppose as long as the whales keep spending, why not do both?
i want to roll tank do I go war or pal
>>586474352the heroic ICC mage set was great
>>586474782>You'll login day 1 without adds right? All that extra shit could make unstable connection even worse?retard detected. That's not how your connection to the server works, retard.
>>586474842why not just use leatrix
>>586474257It's always satisfying to see Blizzard literally shitting on western players (you guys) and treating them (you guys) like second class citizens in comparison to Chinese chads.And what is more humiliating for you is that they are openly doing it.Nothing prevents them from sharing the same bundles with you.But they dont. They are swinging penis in front of your face and doing /spit on you.And know what - you have deserved it 120%. Blizzard are based for doing this.Take it up to your ass, goycattle.
>>586474842why is it important to differentiate new quests from old ones
>>586474782What the fuck are you talking about?
>>586474782I'm playing with Spoken.And Platynator to make healthbars super thin as opposed to Blizzard's fat fuck of healthbars.
>>586474760But I would? It's not my fault they don't offer that
lmao im just not gonna use any addons haha
>>586474782>You'll login day 1 without adds rightUhh yes I'm not a boss mob I don't have any adds
>>586474782it wont affect the connection anon.. you might get UI fuckery though
>>586474997This, I'm just logging in and playing asap
>3 DAYS3 DAYS>3 DAYS3 DAYS>3 DAYS
u literally only need restedxp
>>586474939What the fuck are you talking about you retard?No one in the west wants p2w crap which is why they're not selling us that stuff. Chinks want p2w. If there's no p2w, they'll cry.
>>586474997im going to use decursive, otherwise everything else I used in the past is unnecessary since edit mode
>have to suffer through 3 more days of my $80k email wagie job before PTO kicks inKill me
Seeing the things China does on their servers has really helped me to understand why our ancestors used to not allow us to travel there. Shoulda kept it that way. Anywhere east of Czechia or south of the Alps sounds like a massive shithole full of literal monsters.
Is there going to be ElvUI for Forever on launch?
>>586474672>If they eventually bring WoW Forever to consoles
>>586475201Wait till you see what's going on in Canada.
>>586475054LETS FUCKING GOOOOO>>586475073restedxp is a scam. but you already know this.>>586475165I get paid $60k tax free to sit at home with my dick in my hand.Stop flexing your salary or I'll flex my girlfriend next its ur mom
>>586475201
>>586474939I already cancled my fucking blue elf bundle. I'll just pay the monthly goysub, if even ...
>>586475201That's what the people who own you want you to think you massive fucking retard>>586475275Canada is rightful streetshitter clay.
Alright since they'll be back in the office today what meme changes do you think they're gonna add to the PTR client today?
>>586474672It will definitely come to consoles. Xbox would work really well, some xbox gaypass combined with the WoW sub.
>>586474939small bugperson hands typed this postChinese pay-to-win bullshit is just that, bullshit. I'm happy MicroBlizzard finally decided to just let them do whatever and have separate versions of the game for the West.
is madseason correct?
>>586475246There's Ellesmere if you want a total UI replacement
>>586474672They gotta bring it to consoles otherwise all that effort into making the controller scheme would be strange. It feels good already, which is surprising. I doubt it's just so people on Steam Deck can play.
which races are canonically more likely to be futas?so far i've got orcs, undead, tauren, troll, human, night elves, dwarves, gnomes
>>586475435He is, but OSRS is still shit.
>>586475415That would make a lot of sense.
>>586475457They'll bring it to xbox for Microslop.
>>586475457>>586475498It will 100% be billed as an xBoX eXcLuSivE.If Blizz added proximity chat in the same update to make up for xbox retards' inability to type, I wouldn't be that mad. A skilled player on a controller is worth about as much as a drooling retard at a keyboard.
Gnomorrhea
some dude in 2004 spent hours agonizing over the blood elf model. going through multiple iterations of the coolest design for the horde possible. in the end he chose green glowing eyes which gave the elves an unnatural feeling that evoked the evil fel energy that they consumed while under kaelthas' leadership. so what did 2026 nu blizzard do? turn them baby blue with pink colored hair and give them a bipoc storyline. how is this not retail? the new leaks are an onion and ketchup fart.
>>586475584>proximity chatThe game already has that. Type /s to use the Say channel.
>>586474257I'm buying it right this instant
>>586475657>and give them a bipoc storyline.Retard take, Skelves are literally pre-Christianity bri'ish people.
>your dungeon tank and healer are console playersMight as well abandon.
>>586475480hes just glazing OSRS because if WoW flops again he will have no career
>joins party>continues talking in /s and not /pwhy do people do this
>>586475657really?
choose
>>586475791Now show the SD version side by side.
>>586475769low IQ
>>586475739>feathers in the hair>choosing between civilization and nature.>windtalkersyou're honestly retarded if you think an american company of millennials and zoomers knows what the fuck you're talking about even.
>>586475791>making your undead prettyfaggot. option 4, except with the jaw option of 2 or 3. >>586475769>>586475865I do it because I'm not a faggot who's afraid to speak in front of the entire class.
>>586475791>undead troons really choose to look like thislol
>>586474626something something guild culture vs shame culture something face something
>>586475791rest in piece coolio.
>>586475921Johnny Zoomer who works on the rigging and hair feathers and Jenna Womansex who works on the inclusive faggot Incubus quest don't need to understand the meaning behind the narrative.The kikes who run the show do; that's all it takes.
>>586475931as I said - low IQ
>>586476017>typing in party chat makes me smart!okay, Poindexter. Here's your (you).
>>586475791what a travesty
>>586474939They're not the same company over there.
>>586476015you are appealing to an authority that got all of their ideas secondhand from games worshop. wow is not a lotr history lesson.
>>586474672Honestly I can see the basic vanilla wow being the new Minecraft.Like pre-installed on windows computers and freely available on MS Store where you can download it on xbox.It's plastered all over the internet already, you can play these vibecoded variants in browser with no problem.
>Elf druid (main)>Orc rogue (alt, Thistle Tea production for main)>Troll warlock (primary alt, hardstuck on my employed buddy's schedule until 60)>A bank altR8 my choice of troons for launch.
>>586476118nta but you're low iq
>>586476283Just because you don't understand the narrative doesn't mean everyone else can't either, simpleanon.
so cool that melee hunter just does a fuckton more dps than melee classesyes just give them the best dual wield talent by far just give them permanent death wish
>>586476387ironic in every single way.
>>586476328nta but no he isn't
>>586474626Only the Aryan soul values the process of earning something.All other races are soulless materialists who only value the end goal and therefore getting it by any means is acceptable. The easier the better.
>less 4channers>less rumble users>less kids about to break their last straw and shoot up a schoolDamn right, I'm playing on Normal.
>>586476415Hunter has always been a class that shits out damage in return for having nauseating high skill ceiling gameplay.>>586476430no u
>>586476608fewer*fewer*fewer*
>>586476608meanwhile on normal servers
>>586474172This >>586474527, these "all you need" addons are so fucking retarded.
>>586476635not true
>>586476635hahahahahahahahahahahaha
>>586476661that's literally a picture of the beta pvp server
>>586476661Could be pretty cool running into something like this. I play on EU though.
>>586476635>in return for having nauseating high skill ceiling gameplayt. legolas menethil, level 45 hunter
>>586476715its almost like that whole guild is going normal, retard
>>586476635
>>586476752>>586476739>>586476698>>586476693Hunter is the highest skill ceiling class in the game. You are all wrong.You may post anime reaction images in response to this post now.
>>586476635>nauseating high skill ceiling(You)
>>586474257Asian bugmen unironically like, or even demand p2w features in their mmos. GDPK is also a normal thing over there.I literally cant understand this mentality. This is why korean MMOs are so fucking soulles and grindy (with paid options to make it less painful).
>>586476635>no ui just want to say that this proves your stance on my argument was also retarded and i win.
>>586474582Forever is sub and no box price. What do you think?
yea pvp server might be frustrating but it’s all worth it when you’re finally bis pvp gear as an arms warrior and charge into a group with your dick out landing a massive sweeping strike big yellow numbers going off
>>586476971nah
https://poal.me/iqg9uhhttps://poal.me/iqg9uhhttps://poal.me/iqg9uh
>>586474946So you can sóyface on a kill 6 spiders quest.
>>586477056>No oce choices
>>586476832u should try a feral druid
>>586477137NA ate OCE
is this balanced?
>>586477137>fuck off im asianIts there
Rogue or Hunter?Rogue is a class I've literally never played in 20 years of playing this game, but Hunter has the ability to feign death during a raid boss and swap trinkets which is pretty fuckin' rad, unless devs remove it in Forever like they did in TBC era/anniversary.
>>586477169look at meI'm the windfury now
>>586477169>be a bear druid with 10k hp>get stunned and hit for half health>the paladin is now useless>heal self to full with one rejuvYep
God damn, we really do have a lot of Horde trannies in these generals
>>586477287bear armor doesn't protect you against holy damage
>>586477207>PVEHunter>PVPRogue
>>586474272I will use these:EllesmereUI (created with the use of AI)Forever Loot SparklesAuctionatorWhat's TrainingInstance Journal Forever if its maintained, Dungeon Journal otherwise (Im pretty sure Instance Journal is a vibecoded fork)Gathermate2Rare ScannerQuestieAttuneBetter FishingOpenMap (created with the use of AI)Can I Mog It?Speedy Autoloot (apparently this is included with ellesmere)Spoken (lol, lmao)
>>586477310No but the 10k hp sure does
>>586477207>feign death during a raid boss and swap trinketsIs this really a thing? Do people do this in Classic?
>>586477407Go back
>>586477407they did but you'll likely be stuck in combat in forever
>>586477287you want to start a "heal self with one spell cast" contest with a forever paladin?
>>586477301VICTORY OR DEATH(they know they can't win)
>>586476321>main and alt on different factionI thought we weren't getting cross-faction mail
wtf is going on at youtube man
>>586477669>implying its a contest>implying I don't just shift into a retarded roadrunner and walk my happy ass awayI got shit to do, fuck off. Meep meep.
>>586477853game is huge and slop is everywhere so I'm not sure what you expect
There is simply no way Blizzard, our Blizzard who hates money, will put in any paid products with the release of Forever, just simply no way.
I really wish I knew what blizz's intent with this game was. I thought it would be sod lite where you can build your character in ways you usually can't but less extreme. Idk if that's their intent at all and even if it is I sort of expect them to fold the first time no changes andies riot on reddit.
>>586477853I slop for fun but man I fucking hate the AI thumbnail bullshit.
>>586477893Who are you even arguing against, they have already put stuff you can buy in the game, you a bot?
>>586477872the druids highest ambition is running from a fight
>>586477905whatever generator that image is using looks fucking horrible whenever I see it and I don't understand why anyone would use it
>>586477853Where are the boobs? I'm not clicking this.
>>586477853there are like 2 billions jeets who want that youtube moneyif jews weren't currently cucking the west, this sort of indolence wouldn't be allowed.
>>586477853
>>586477853Goylennials love AI
>>586477853>without custom css, the thumbnails now take up 1/3rd of the screenThey really seem to be tailoring the layout towards these stupid overdesigned thumbnails, too.
>>586477901the intent is that there’s an audience for classic, but classic itself has mostly been wrung dry except for turboautists. I’m sure they also saw the success of OSRS
>>586477975>zugbrain paladin unable to comprehend that there are more important things to worry about than zugging*moonfires you at 30 yds**reshifts into travel form and runs away again*heh...nothin' personnel
>>586477853>>586478029small youtubers in charge of using thumbnails that aren't unclickable dogshit
>>586477901I anticipate that wacky new builds will be drip-fed to us through stuff like gear and skill books.Start off slow so that you have something to re-hook addicts in a year when the game is dead again.
>>586478029>Time Remaining: ForeverKINO ALERT
would you guys rather have a Warlock or a Rogue in your party
>>586478029>>586478215>Time Remaining: Forevermade me sensibly chuckle ngl
>>586474778yes they can
>>586477853>ULTIMATE X GUIDE>it's for unreleased and completely untested contentI hate new expansion hype cycles
>>586478249warlock 10 times out of 10rogue is the single least desirable party member
>>586478029kek
>>586478165it'll be through gear, and rare drops in raids. that way you have a reason to still run old raids, for the meme gear to play your meme melee mage.
>>586477287>10k hpuh oh
>>586478249warlock because they're less likely to roll on my shit (I'm leveling prot warrior first)
>>586478215Yea bro, nuBlizz is gonna fix our pathetic lives, the answer to all our problems is 2 days away!
>>586478249the only times i want a rogue over a lock is if there's a door in the way or if i'm gearing a clothie
>>586478324>>586478361warlock it is then, i shall be soooomoning
>>586477975Good luck getting close ebough to Moosain Bolt to stun him, lightcuck
>>586478351oh no bearbros is it over??
>MFW THEY ADD NEW CONTENT TO FOREVER
>>586478417You're not allowed. Only I can play warlock so I can be super special and unique and charge a ton of gold for summons.
>>586478474>absolute dumbass
>>586478474>6.7k hp + 1.5k hp = 10k hpLooks like the Americans are waking up, eurobros.
>>586478351Bear xisters....
Short and stacked
>>586478642Have gnomeposting hours started!? :D
Undead or human warlock ? eu pvpi feel like all the good players will go to horde and alliance will be stuck with casuals who don't wanna wait for the faction balance to create a character then in 6 months alliance will be dead cause they will all quit or just be filled with casual noob raid pugs and getting stomped in bgs. but i want a change of scenery from horde.
>>586476661wow based it's just like when the pool was closed
>>586478682Started?
>>586478723undead can just fuck your fear up if you play human go undead and rape ally sissies
>>586478723play on the pve server then
ITS RETAAAIL
>>586478723>rolling Alliance lock when the most popular opposing race breaks fear and the second-most cleanses curses
>>586478723>imageI wish a Blizzard fucking would
>>586478682
>>586478723>>586478767>>586478828Don't listen to these faggots. Human warlocks have aura, and raids/guilds will fellate you to join their raid instead of having 6 jackoffs named some variation of John Paladin.
>>586478582To be fair I'm not sure what game he has been playing because in naxx gear, wbuffed, flasked, fully raid buffed you went up to like 12k
high elf paladins when?
>>586478474
>>586479000darkfallen elves paladins soon
>>586478968god damn what a clown outfitbis druids really look like this?
>>586478509sorry too late i'm soooomoning and getting tips
>>586478767>>586478828>He chooses his race/class combo based on an imaginary 1v1 scenariosJUST CAST A SECOND FEAR OR USE YOUR SUC CHARM LOL HAHAHAHAHA
>>586479054as long as I can make them blonde
>>586478642>>586478682>>586478846Man I love Gnomes.
>>586474257This is sadly fairly common in china. I don't know why people are surprised when gacha is so huge there.
>>586479046teehee :3
>>586479110doesnt WotF make you immune to fears and charms for like 6 seconds too or something
>>586479110still succ charm and fear share dr so it will be short as fuck and they will just trinket it the second time
>>586479230not anymore
>>586479081You'd actually switch a couple pieces because you go over the armor cap with inspiration with that set. But it's what the default EPs got me. The shoulders probably get switched to the AQ spiky ones for example which go with that hat.
>>586475463nelf, orc, troll, human (small , caged) , tauren, skelf (small , caged), undead (small, caged)
>>586479298wait what is the armor cap
Gnome engineer warriors are actually cool?
why is every hunter build posted here not using imp. concussive shot? seems insanely useful for pvp
Is Blizzard's ultimate plan for Forever to send all cash shop shit to China and let us be pvre for a little while?
>>58647941917265 armor against 63s ie 75% damage reduction.
>>586479232Ok so stick to your bg team then, nobody cares about how unfair your hypothetical world pvp duel is
>>586479437not sure you even pick that in pvp. a chance to stun on 12 second cd.
>>58647952060% classic players are chinese
So what're you playing during the wait?I got back into HS the last half year or so, Battlegrounds mode is probably the only autobattler that I like.
Who are our WoW Forever vtubers?
its gnome priest main for me
>>586479641tbc
>>586479569Shit seemed bugged in beta felt like it stunned me almost every time just like alot of other things like hunter hit table hitting lvl 60s at lvl 1 99% of time
>>586479436LOL!
idk seems like wowf will die in a month and everyone is just gonna be raidlogging lol
>>586479752yes im so concerned... maybe we should all just go play m+ on retail?
>>586479752under 5% will be 60 by a month, but among those yeah kind of
I'm not going to sleep until an anon kisses me goodnight
>>586479850kiss kiss
>>586479725many such cases
>get off night shift>it's raining so hard that the street near my house is literally flooding and cars are stalling and police are everywhere>have to walk through it>water goes nearly waist high in some intersections>now im going to be sick for launchGreat, thanks Florida
has the worgen/darkfallen leak changed your plans for what class/race you're going to play?
>>586479937at least a plane didn't crash on you
>>586479232Do you understand how broken lock is in wpvp or how little 1 fear break matters especially when you have death coil
wifeguys….
What good vidya takes 2 days to finish?
>>586479937dont forget getting hit by a plane
so what are we playin until launch
>>586480037do you think this is a reddit dumping ground or something?
>>586480065Mafia
>>586480065Live A Live, fun little RPG from square around the chrono trigger era that got a remake a couple years back
>>586479896Imagine filling her mouth up with your stinky cum
>>586477349Literally all of those are created with the use of AI, luddite
>>586480106>>586480037yeah only post retards from twitter or the wow forums, not reddit
>>586480065Portal
>3 more sleepswtfffffffffffffffff
>>586479850>bridal carries you to bed>throws you on it playfully>tickles you a bit>throws the blanket over you>straightens the blanket as you settle into place>clears the hair off of your face and tucks you in>caresses your cheek and gives a peck on your forehead and turns the lights off
>>5864802462 actually
>>586474672this month
>>586479896>conveniently placed GnomaholeDon't mind if I do
I am awakeI must post Satyrs
>>586480291>shrek.gif next to fageverforeshadowing
Damn the forsaken WC3 campaign has so much soul.
>>586474272that's my list. I know there's a few AI-slop in there like road to sixty, smooth xp bar, spoken and probably more but i don't really give a shit.
>>586479717sunglitters
>>586479949No? If that's even true I can just make a edgelord elf as an alt later.
can i somehow copy my addons folder from beta to release?
>>586480498I was planning on running skyborne rogue as my main alt, but now that darkfallen is gonna be a thing, I'd definitely rather have a darkfallen rogue. I might still just make a skyborne one for now and just re-level as a darkfallen to replace it if and when it comes, just in case the leak is bullshit.
>>586480065https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgc1klxJxjg
>>586480559>darkfallen???
>>586480541yes
>>586474272All the good and working addons now are made by claude
>>586480453>spokenwhen that mod first started, it was HILARIOUS how bad it sounded. I still watch this video from time to time, never fails to get a chuckle out of me. I CANNOT believe this was legitimately what it sounded like, jesus fucking christ.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEFRlJDakAM
>>586474782>anon your video game gave family computah the virus!
ALEXENSUAL RUNS THIS GAME
>>586480617fake leaks some random youtuber put out
>theorycrafting mage leveling+pvp builds>trying to fuck around with various interesting multi-tree setups>no matter what I try deep frost still seems to give the most damage and pvp valueAm I retarded or
>>586480065don't play video games. grow up. spend your time productively.
>>586480741POTION SELLA
>>586480789*purges you are ice barrier*this alone is reason enough not to go frost anymorethat single talent is doing so much work now
>>586480154>luddite?Me using AI addons is luddite now? Rent free?
>"I made this really cool mod that does X">obviously ai slop>"I" madethis is the thing that pisses me off. I don't give a fuck if it's made by ai, but just fucking say it. I don't mean disclose that you used ai. just outright say, "I had ai make this" instead of "I made this". i don't care how much time, how many prompts you used, how much iterating and testing you did, it is irrelevant if you are essentially just begging claude to fulfill your wishes.
>>586474257Retarded chinamen giving blizzard their jew gold for not even best-in-slot bags lmao
>>586480773Kazumok keep your weird gay lust for ALOX to yourself.
>>586480789Because Frost is literally the only tree that has crowd control and defensives?Fire tree is entirely just "3% damage" "and crit" "and uhh, damage". The only alternative is PoM Arcane Power and killing someone with three instants before dying yourself.
>>586480892No anon, you thinking that there are addons, even just ONE addon, that isn't made with AI, is screaming either ignorance or stubborness in the whole anti-ai agenda.
>>586480291THE SHREK GIF IS CANON
Best warlock horde race pve?
hmm, how do we improve paladins>4% mana regen>173% increased threat>allow them to block spells>6% damage reduction from all sources>refreshes all paladin debuffs on the target>scales with spell power>deals a type of damage that bypasses all armor and resistances>all on a 6-second cooldownBut what about retribution sir?>how about we give them the ability to manually trigger a windfury attack that also bypasses armor and resistances>and lets give them a reduction to every form of cc as wellBut won't that be overpowered in pvp?>just tell them we're only balancing for raids lololol
>>586474272Imagine being so incompetent you code things by hand in 2026.
>>586480741I've watched this 5 times now and I'm almost in tears. holy fucking kek my sides.
>>586476635>Hunter has always been a class that shits out damage in return for having nauseating high skill ceiling gameplay.Nice bait, here's your (you), idiot.
>>586480960>anti-ai agendaStop fighting shadows retard bwo, I simply did not write AI next to addons I know existed 10 years ago too. Nothing much to it. (Okay, I guess the 5 lines of code needed for loot sparkles might be AI too.)
>>586474257Chinamen will buy literally fucking anything in a video game. LoL put out a 500$ Ahri skin and the chinks happily ate it up. Meanwhile all other regions of the world had Ahri banned in ranked for a month just to troll any idiot who bought the skin.
>>586474857>>586475415>>586475457>>586476302>>586480291Yadda, kimoi!
>>586477853>>586478029Shitty AI slop>>586478767>>586478828You have no soul, which is why you horde scum live in mud huts.
>>586481107>wow players aren't autoshunning smurf elves from their parties, raids, and guildsLeague players winning bigly on this one.
waitwhy can i only pre create 3 characters??
>>586481284Name reservation
>>586481321reeeeeee
>"zomfg they STILL haven't made any balance change to rogue!!!!>"hehehehehehe they made changes to rogue but we can't see them because those changes are hiding...just like when rogues stealth!...hehehehehe!!!!>"every other class has had sweeping changes that has almost completely altered how the class operates, but rogue is almost exactly like how it was in vanilla!!!"are these people for real? rogue being largely untouched is such a fucking blessing. It worked great in vanilla, it's gonna work great again in forever.>"rogue is so boring! I'm supposed to just stand there doing white hits and keeping up SND?!?! I NEED this class to have an autistically high APM to satisfy my unmedicated ADHD!!!"yup, retarded
>>586480291holy kino. Unironically this might make it hard to decide between PS6 and XBOX Series Infinity or whatever they'll call it.
>>586481239I'm going to do my partno grouping, trading with, buffing, or healing sky elves for meonly /cringe, /fart and /spit
Is she cute
Schizophrenic here.Elemental shaman will be reworked into a 2 handed spellcaster with the capstone giving them the ability to wield 2 handers at all.Enh will be reworked into a tank except it will have zero bonus DR or HP and be fucking terrible because aggrend doesn't know wow classic math.Resto's chain heal will be severely nerfed and same for riptide.Shaman will be raped, gaped, castrated, prolapsed and genocided.
>>586481369>implying forever would be exclusiveuhh, xbox has like 4% marketshare of consoles. they will make 10x or more the amount of money by releasing it on any platform that will let them vs keeping it exclusive to "sell consoles". Nobody will be buying an xbox for forever.
>>586481402toilet
>>586481016>forever gameplay trailer shows a paladin blocking a lightning boltWe MUST have gotten an older build for the beta because they've clearly had some of these recent reworks planned for a while.
>>586480949I really wanted to come up with something off-the-beaten path but it just doesnt seem to workFire Blast is good enough on its own or you have to dip rather deep into fire for 1.5 sec Pyroblast purely from Fire Blasts and it still likely wont beat deep frost Cone of Cold finishersImpact is balanced around Fireyou have to invest separate talent points for critical strike damage bonus for each school so going Shatter and then branching into the other trees aint as goodsimilar with Arcane Blast and Arcane Wrath, deep frost Cone of Cold beats them considering its instant and also slows
>>586481464Ok but she cute do
Sex with Skelves!
>>586481478what the fuck is that armor??
>>586481459>Nobody will be buying an xbox for foreverNo, but buying games on xbox will also often (or always?) give you the PC version. Since exclusives nowadays are most often shit anyways, the real incentives are other features like these
>>586481161>alliance>mostly just generic tolkienesque slop >horde>unique and interesting
i WILL have fun
>>586474939I don't want jew pay-to-win items in my game. Fuck the Chinese
>>586481602this 1000%alliance is absolute boringslopif im playing a fantasy gamei want to play as a fantasy racenot >human>short human>oh an elf>tiny human>*dlc elf*
Madseason won
>>586481339Yes.Rogue was great in vanilla. We ran 5 rogues in our Naxx guild, one of the best in the world.In TBC you really didn't "need" any rogues at all and some top guilds ran 0.Anyway, they're obviously going to print some really good daggers into the game and make rogue top dps via poisons, daggers, and mutilate/venom specs. It's super obvious.Combat won't be king this time.
Ok?
>>586481652the gay faggot competition? don't feel too bad anon I'm sure you'll do better next year.
>>586481574the tank spec soulforge (upgraded dungeon set that was present in vanilla). SoD added alternate versions for each spec, each with their own color. Holy=purple (original color scheme), Ret=red, Prot(this screenshot)=black.
>>586481546Alliance Skiggers should be forced to copulate with horde males.
>>586481402>retoilet mode
>>586481016Can you not read>giving the stored seal it's normal chance to activate once per stackI.E you are getting SoC's normal 40% chance to proc once per stack.
>>586481753Not sure what Chance did to deserve getting hit by pvp gear, but sure.
>>586481729you mean all should be with me
>>586481746it genuinely feels like a majority of the "people" here use retoilet models
>>586480651how
>>586481693really excited to get the updated sub capstone they talked about, forget what it's called, the one where it builds up an echo of your damage over 15 seconds and then dumps it all at the end of the duration. That + poison spec is definitely gonna go super hard. Might not be great for pvp due to time to kill being generally low, but for raid bosses that take minutes to down? rogues are gonna spike to the top of the charts and stay there.
They should've cold released on Halloween night instead of waiting the four extra days
Still no shaman in our alliance guild fucking hell, I wanted to try pumping for once
>>586481795i meant can they add hit chance to pvp gear
>>586474939based truth god
>copy wtf and addon folder from beta to release>game instantly crashes nowcome on
>>586481898No raid logging in the hallway!
many are saying this
>>586481898we had 4 at the beginning of the beta and now we only have one and he's new to wow in general, poor guy
>>586481898ele looks horrible and resto is still just one button chain heal spam but now you riptide someone firstso unless you like play enhance idk why you would play shaman
>>586481898try not rolling on the carebear realm
>>586482010Nobody cares and that's off-topic
>>586482034>so unless you like play enhance idk why you would play shamanEnh is also terribad.
ret broshow are we failing
>>586482104Yes please keep it up. Keep calling enh terrible. I want to keep 1 shotting people in pvp without ever getting nerfed.
>>586482126Aggrend got our backs, couldn't be better.
>"with dungeon xp nerf, there's no reason to run leveling dungeons more than once"loot, fun, socializing>"blizzard needs to change any dungeon quests that require drops to guarantee all drops will occur in a single run!!!"why?>"because then the 2nd run is a waste of time!!"but you'll be completing that quest from the 2nd run...which will give you a lot of exp...which means multiple runs are actually incentivized just like you wanted>"NUH UH!!!! I JUST WANT TO SIT AFK AT THE ENTRANCE WHILE A 60 CARRIES ME AKDJHNSBADJKASHBFJKSHFBFJKSDBHFDSJSBFJ!!!!!!"they always reveal their bad faith argument if you keep pushing. every. single. time.
>>586482034>>586482104>they dont know the game isnt out yet
>>586482151>without ever getting nerfed.
Now that the dust has settled, why did Blizzard lie about horizontal progression?
>>586481823That's because most of the retoilet general is here now. WoWg has only a limited number of schizos left, Pic related.
>>586482171does he?
>>586482151>I-i'm going to oneshot you!1Oh lil gup... little castrated gupta dung eater...our little retarded fecaloid.
>>586482179The problem with running the dungeon twice is that the exp you gain is halved compared to running it once
>>586482301Always.
>>586482369will he get rid of seal twisting for us
>>586482010>Turtle WoW was better
>>586482349Litl..pieco shito?
>>586480741holy shit
>>586474352I'm quitting this fucking game if horde is getting more fucking elves.
>>586482391oh nonono HAHAHAHA
>>586482389he already didit's a controllable windfury now
>>586482389Trust the plan. Trust the plan...
>>586482104enhance looks like it has some play to it and it's fun getting big WF procs ele has uhhhhh lava burst that barely hits harder than lightning bolt
Had a nice breakfast, had some bacon and eggs in a burger bunswith some spicy pickles. Gonna eat some plums and sweets now. We're all hopefully going to make it to launch.
>>586481693I'm hopeful for the same as far as dagger dps goes. Going rogue for the experience on first character either way, they're fun to explore shit with.
Purple hag love
>"[Region] [Ruleset] [Class] Looking for somebody to level and quest with"do posts like this ever actually work out? who the fuck would reply and agree to dedicate the vast majority of their playtime to partnering with some rando when you can just as easily get by playing by yourself and partnering with any rando you meet out in the world for whatever quest. in fact, you'd probably have a better time because you won't be guilted into holding back your playtime outside of playing with this faggot who demands you remain attached by the hip so that he can quest optimally.
>>586482391How is this any different from >>586474257
For anyone else who didn't paypig, it's finally allowed me to pre-install
>enh vellums in foreverretoiletification keeps happening
>>586481464
>>586482476>"Play to it">Afk and pray and hope for a proc (literally bad ret)
>>586482504Purple feet and toes are pristine and the best
>>586481487Fireblast is lit and they'll be lit. I'm going Blast Wave + Fingers and only cast time spell I'm going to even touch is Pyro when heated up.I think you can't really count on many Winter's Chill stacks being up in one fight. You'll get one let's say every 10-12 seconds when you get to press Ice Lance (You can't press every 8sec because you need to get them frozen or fingers proc). And maybe you hardcast one Frostbolt in your Nova root during that. So you'll have only three stacks up by 20-30seconds. And they'll be more dead from those other spells CoC even gets buffed to be the preferred button.Whereas you can just Fire Blast every 6 seconds, Blast Wave, Cone, Nova, Ice Lance, and then get a 2k damage 1.5sec Pyro guaranteed at 18 seconds or 12s if you crit something once. Just add a bit of Frost CC talents, and Ice Lances between Fire Blasts, on top of that and they'll die to your instants while you spam jump.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5j4jtefbg4thoughts on this? can forever get this?
>>586482391this was fine because the game was Free to Play
>>586482539Retoilet never loses, that is rule 0.Rule 1 is that only white fascist men can enact Classic +.>Inb4 troondleTrannies are white and men.
>>586481574It was first added in TBC along other recolors of Vanilla's dungeon and raid sets.
>>586482391alex sissies... how the fuck do we recover from this
imagine trying to make money off a private server
>>586482539>NO CHANGES, EVER!!!!!>yes, I unironically prefer to incentivize and interact with literal bots running weak auras for this ONE profession>yes, I understand this makes the profession virtually unusable for anybody not willing to either afk in a city botting with weak auras OR subbing a 2nd account to do the exact same thingactual retard
>>586482572I said what I saidit'll have interesting gearing choices because of how good int is on it
>>586482643This is the hottest whitemane animation and I'm incredibly sad he's never done more.
>>586482692by reviewing black dildos
>>586482715It has worked out extremely well for some of them.
>>586482464>>586482474wait what
Haven't decided yet what and where to play?Here's the only thing that matters :)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nx1SYe4zs-c
>>586482767okay? you're still scum and you deserve to get shut down
>>586482539Yeah we should make all other professions have to spam trade chat to sell anything too
>>586482801even slopped up Asmongold looks like shit
>>586482539This so much this, what's next being able to sell potions/flasks and crafted items on the ah? I swear blizzard just doesn't know when to stop.
>>586482782look at the updated talents
>>586482192Not sure they did, I never really interpreted what they said the same way as everyone else it seems. The quote from the Clay Stone guy goes something like "as we add to this horizontally expanding, evergreen, Azeroth". Why would this even be about progression? Here's an example: >Adding Riverglades to the game: Expanding the game horizontally>Adding Outland to the game and increasing the level cap: Expanding the game vertically
>>586482208How is that guy a Schizo?
>>586482852hmmm i dunno bout thatthat's just seal twisting with less steps but at least its better than esfands bullshit
>>586482823explain how that's bad without moralfagging
>>586482391in a game that's pay to play as well as subscription based i'd gladly welcome a real money store for items that are not just horrifically distracting cosmetics of very poor taste
>>586481894we could be leveling right now wtf
>>586482823believing everyone in this thread owns a successful private server is peak schizo
>>586482843>>586482837>>586482716friction is neededif you let slippery slope shit like vellums in this game, it's a matter of time we get dungeon finders and wow tokens
>>586482897it's better since it will always be 2x seals on average per attack and two thirds will be commands
>>586482192Nobody fucking knows what that means, least of all Blizzard themselves, and is only parroted by people trying to sell you Forever as "Different" from retail.An RPG has vertical progression, because you level up. A level up means you get more and better spells. It's inherent to the system that your selection doesn't just go up one level, but also broadens. That's the whole point.There will be people who say "OSRS made it work" but honestly OSRS just has a lot of different exp bars to fill. It's vertical progression across separate, horizontally placed progression options.Whatever the fuck it is WoF tries to do right now, is just taking the one vertical progression that WoW has and throw in more distractions in there, that will be forgotten once the novelty of it all wore off and everyone realizes that the formula is still revolving around BIS in every slot.
>>586482523It isn't different at all. I don't give a fuck about China though, that shit can stay there.
I didn't play SoD beyond the initial level 25 phase. I heard something about rogues eventually getting class quests to solo stealth through dungeons? is that legit? If so, that's fucking awesome. did they ever do anything with ravenholme? I've been hoping that rogue has more interaction or incentive to engage with stealth/pickpocket/distract.
Demonology Bros?
>>586481647but all the fantasy races look like shit
horizontal progression is a meme
>>586482985Yeah so we should go in the opposite direction of making all other professions work like enchanting
>>586482916>explain how something is bad without explaining how something is bad
>>586481772Its written in a retarded way so you are not a retard yourself for reading it like this. If the stacks didnt matter it would just be a singular buff, no stacks required. You have to decide whether the chance is the one that gets multiplied or if it is calculated as a normal chance (40%) 3 times and potentially procc 3 times. I think its the latter.In either case its windfuresque
>>586483042>orcs>trolls>undead>NOOOO FANTASY RACES IN MY FANTASY GAME??? I WANT HUMAN SHORT HUMAN SUPER SHORT HUMAN!!
>warrior tanking is fun but warrior pvp is fucking awful>priest pve healing is both mindnumbingly boring but also stressful while pvp healing is extremely funHelp me bros...
I never played Warlock ever. Is Destruction fun? I like the spec fantasy.
>>586483089>sharpening stones can only be applied by a blacksmith in the trade windowkino...
>>586482801Finally a WoW forever video that is not half an hour long. Always pisses me off when streamers make long ass videos with zero quality information.
>>586482605without Ice Barrier you are squishy as fuck, you can be alphaed by a rogue or druid opening with Ambush/Ravage + one basic attack ability, or a hunter + Mana Shield does not protect against magical damagerank 1 Frostbolt wont even proc FrostbitesIce Barrier now gives you increased frost damage too and Cone of Cold is now a finisher on top of being instant and also slowing
>>586483145>warrior pvp awfullol?lmao??
when is the next datamine supposed to drop? are we at least getting a blue post today to explain why they decided to gut resto druids into being useless again? good luck finding a raid spot unless you're a priest atp
>>586483001The other issue is that WoW Forever cannot have hard content because the pool of "pve mechanics" you can put in the game is really limited unless you actually homogenize utility very heavily or straight up gut a lot of it.But people aren't ready for that talk.
>>586483104you are way overthinking it. The stacks just puts a limit on how often you need to refresh it. with 3 stacks, you have the NORMAL chance of the seal proccing. Once it procs, you lose a stack. once you procs 3 times, all your stacks are gone, and you are no longer seal twisted, and need to refresh a new seal.
I just sharted all over myself while laughing maniacly. Take that Blizzard
>>586483187You're literally a free honor kill npc unless you have a healer.
>>586483153destruction is just mage with a different flavor. barely any survivability, burn all your mana for a few stronk spells, hopefully you kill whatever is coming for you before it reaches you. the end.
>>586483101so you can't, I knew it
Is demonology warlock fun? can you get an army of demons that do shit for you
>>586483254Retoilet chuds in shambles
>>586480789Of course deep frost is the PVP spec
this is the build for pvp
>>586482368but what about loot, fun and socializing?
>>586483374lol no. there is a reason lock is one of the least played classes
>>586483374no warlock is boring dont play it
>wow players when the fire demon boss is immune to fire spells
Here is how to fix the dungeon XP issueReduce quest XP by 70% so that now you can do all the quests in the world, you like questing right anon? Now you can quest more!
Join <FUN HAVERS> we are na pve and will be having fun :)https://discord.gg/XBd4VWnquc
>>586482823They should just host huge servers and make regular patches for free? It's not like you're forced to pay either.
>>586483449>lootWho cares about loot that gets replaced tomorrow?>funI can have fun doing quests too>socializingNobody usually even talks in dungeons
>>586483569imagining fire mages in mc just makes me not even wanna bother
>>586483183One 900 Barrier doesn't make you die or not die to "their opener"Magical damage doesn't stunlock and ambush you so we can call that evenYou didn't read the part where no one was planning to cast cast-time spellsCone of Cold won't finish anything when you're not planning to stack five stacks of debuffs for a minute with poly resetsI'm giving them 6-7 globals of 1k+ damage instant casts and a 1.5sec pyro if they're trying to heal
I played WoW during MOP and stayed around for a few expansionsI'm a FFXIV player, but I've been considering giving Forever a try until our expansion releasesIs there anything I need to know in preparation for Forever? What server to pick, faction, etc?I'm thinking Tauren because running fast sounds both hilarious and useful for questing
>>586482208It's literally and I mean literally only pedos and furfags left in wowg. Those subhumans will never quit retail no matter how bad it gets
>>586482897fucking bizarre design. p server schizo shit.
>>586483001"horizontal progression" is just vertical progression but slower and with more content of the same level.
>>586483698Play on PvE Alliance and join Olympus
>>586482840Kek my thought exactlyBut it's his brand so whatever
>>586483639and as I said, those were obvious bad faith arguments to begin with. dungeon xp whiners only care about boosting/carries/avoiding overworld interaction on PVP servers until they're 60. the devs have outright stated their stance that they this mentality is harmful and antithetical to the game. and they're completely correct. simple as. you want nothing but dungeon spam? go play fucking fellowship
>>586483670devs already confirmed there won't be element immune enemies in raids
>>586483689Have you ever leveled or spent some time as a fresh 60 mage? Barrier literally is the difference between being alphaed vs surviving the initial burst
>>586482985vellums are fine nancy, spamming trade for a wrist enchant is obnoxious
For... The... ALLLLLIIIIIIIIIIIIIAAAAAANNNCEEEEE!!!!!
>>586483254
>>586483772I don't like asmonroach, and I think Horde is cooler
>>586483848Enshittification of Classic by plaguing it with retail mechanics
>>586483698I recommend going on a pvp server since you won't experience that in FFXIV.
>>586483895>group finder is fine nancy, spamming global for dungeon groups is obnoxious
>>586483848did they? I swear I remember them outright referencing molten core as an intended point of friction, making certain specs better due to region/enemy type, incentivizing their situational loot like +25 attack power vs demons or +50 spell damage in forests.
>>586482895Go back to wowg nigga.
Early morning AV in forever looks cozy AF
>>586480291Kek
>>586483959I'd probably pick rogue for that, I remember having lots of fun sapping people in world pvp back in MOPHow bad will it be if I roll druid? Will I get harassed too much? At what level do you get insta flagged for PvP?
>>586483981yes, it is. I accept your concession.
>>586483001>the formula is still revolving around BIS in every slot.But thats entirely the players' fault. The army of 30+ nostalgia gamers, who are impressively bad at actual gameplay and mechanics, but somehow have endless free time to farm numbers.Its a paradox, how retail has been a near perfect field for minmaxing for both cutting edge pvp and pve, but instead they do it in classic where it barely matters.The development cant police players behavior entirely, thats not the point of an mmp
>>586483981yes?
>>586483848>wizard capable of harnessing multiple elements heads into the underground core of a volcanic mountain filled with fire salamanders, fire imps, fire elementals and a fuckhueg lava boss>hmmm.....I think I will cast fireball!absolute retard shit
just got to have a fresh forever server every year with changes like an arpg season
>>586484009>>586484009I'm asking you a specific question: what makes that person a schizo? Or is that your thing? You just go around making up complete lies about people?
>>586484174fuck noif I want to play an ARPG I'll play an ARPG
>>586483848no they didn’t retard
>>586484096>>586484149Im glad you like group finder because its the first of many QoL’s from retail! Retail is actually full of amazing ideas and you shall enjoy them in Forever as well!
>>586483718There's only about 5 of them left. WoWg is probably the slowest general on this board currently.
>>586483848Where?All I know is they laughed how mages cried when everything in Dalaran was immune to Arcane.
>>586484174why every year? it doesn't take that long to hit level 60
>>586484260a fresh server does not mean wow is an arpg
>>586483895lolenjoy the wow token in few months
>>586484174The entire fucking point of Forever is to have a version of WoW that can stay alive without needing freshes or expansions.
>>586484158>druid capable of harnessing the power of nature>turns into a cat and pounces on a lava giantDon't be pedantic.
>>586484340yeah I don't know why random dungeon enemies would be immune but not raid bosses
Forever is already a bit outdated, I think we need fresh servers.
>>586483848At best there should be some sort of glove that allows fire to break immunity
>>586484174>like an arpg seasoni'm going to puke, god i hate season content, just add the shit to the game and leave it there to do, why delete content you have for some bullshit fomo
>>586484364LMAO
>>586484279agreed. glad to see you understand logic and reason and don't behave like a petulant manchild who stubbornly demands things remain bad because they were bad 20 years ago and that apparently means that's how it should always be :)
>try Octowow out of desperation>it just doesn't hit the sameBros I'm legit cooked Forever ruined private servers for me
>>586484554I guarantee you will not even hit 60
STOP IT STOP IT FOREVER HAS TO SUCCEED IT HAS TO I HAVE NOTHING ELSE GOING ON IN MY LIFEEEEEEEE PLEASE STOP DOOMING FOREVER
>>586484364you'll be begging for fresh in 2 months lil gup
>>586484279its just a group finder...
we will be needing a forever fresh next year this time when the 3 tiers of the 4 month cycle (season) finishes
>>586484654>posted a /wowg/ troonI don't get it
>>586484364As of right now you either level up alts or raidlog the latest raid, same as classic.
how will retail ppl handle the new peak forever will have?
>>586484639SameGot to level 8 before tabbing out, this just feels like worse version of forever nglsexo hunter trainer tho
>>586484653I guarantee you won't even play it because it's supposedly just retail minus. Meanwhile, I'll be enjoying the game, playing multiple characters to get legacy points, enjoying all of the thoughtful QOL that they've added to make the game fun and fresh enough whilst retaining enough of the classic experience. as is the intent of the game. if you want no changes, go chase another anniv server and fuck off :)
Chadseason absolutely dismantling and destroying the Blizzcucks really sent them in a tizzy
>>586474271Raid pugs
>>586484364>two new raids>new bg>new factionswe'll be ok
>>586484639>it doesn't hit the sameProbably because octo is ai coded slop.
>>586474007DLSS 5 makes Forever look like THIS? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aos7ZpEMeLs
>>586484775>anni was more hype than midnightgrim
>>586476661I'd have no problem joining olympus if the guild actually has good players and gets shit done.But alas, I am playing on EU PVP and if I see an Olympus guild there, it's probably run by some parasocial slavic mong who wants to suck Asmon's dick.
they can't be just adding tier 4 tier 5 tier 6 every 4 monthsfresh is the only solution
>>586484809....have fun being always behind and doing nothing meaninful?
>>586484775why is this even a competition.. aren't we all on the same team here? get a grip people
>>586484918I will! Thanks! I hope you hit 60 asap so you can start raidlogging and playing as little as possible on this game you supposedly "enjoy" playing!
>>586484969>we
>2 more days of my gay life without wow forever
I had HD models on until I saw a human pull this face while crafting a bandage and I got so repulsed I instantly switched to SD
>586484995>586484809>586484554raped individual
>>586484874>Rape how players play the game>Rape visibility even more>Nuke the spec complexity>Don't add any new interesting gimmick, just a pretty 'meh' set of extra talents that are just "spec but better">Uninspired elfslop mixed with uninspired voidslopidk what they expected to happen.
>>586484802>this just feels like worse version of forever nglThe classes and some of the dungeons, especially the ones they released later on, are better than Forever but a lot of the custom content was released back when they didn't have any idea what they were doing so it's shit.
>>586485029i get enjoyment from others having fun.. im sorry you're so miserable. who hurt you?
>>586485034Realistically it’s closer to 3!
So how are they monetizing Forever? You know they wont stop at the sub or the Skyborne packMore new races behind a paywall?More mounts and pets?
>>586482801disgusting ai slop shitalso fuck streamers
>>586484329It doesn't matter they'll never let it die. Retail is dead as fuck as well. The patch they got this time is shadowlands tier bad. All my friends who still play are all moving over to Forever
look! He's quoting the posts that got his panties in a bunch without giving them a reply! He's REALLY mad now!! GOT EM ;^)
>>586485174>More new races behind a paywall?this
>>586484639Same. Turtle was okay but it suffered from it's own success and the devs being up their own ass in a way that wowdevs simply don't have enough power to do. Octo is just turtle but with vibe code, less content, and more monetization.
>>586485124>i get enjoyment from others having fun.. im sorry you're so miserable. who hurt you?
>>586485174cosmetics and mounts
>>586485048I make that same face when my clitty starts banging on its cage.
>>586484775Where is WotLK Classic and MoP?
This is it bros. This is my build.
>>586485174>races>mounts>pets>transmogAnd expect them to sell race bundles for extra goodies, including random Retoilet shit to "entice you" to spend even more time on WoW.
>>586480656Claude is straight and white so his addons are allowed
>>586485292oof, reddit basedjack #23746. got em
>2 days until launch>still can't decide between warrior, paladin and druid
>>586484009nigga I'm asking because I don't know them. I want you to warn me bruh.
>>586485372you best go pve boy or your bussy is mine to take
imagine spending all of your free time engaging with a product and it's community that brings you nothing but disappointment and grief. what kind of sad, pathetic waste of human excrement would do such a thing, instead of actually playing something they enjoy?
>>586485410We need more druids.
>>586485174They will keep doing bundles for new races and/or classes.
>>586485475No, we need more druids who aren't mentally ill furfags who suck at the game
>>586485370wrath is spike before dragonflight
>>586485410Warrior, obviously. Solo can be rough but everyone wants to group up with warriors.
>>586485410there's going to be critical lack of druids so pls make one
>>586485523if they actually ever do classes it's DOA
>>586485372>two talents use the white man's eye symbol>can't be a white man shamanGay as fuck
When will we get the final launch patch notes with the class changes?
>>586485393Claude is a homosexual French name. He’s not white.
>>586485372Why the fuck would you only put 1 into ghostwolf?Man... why am I even replying to this? I know this is bait. You did this exactly so people would ask why the fuck you put 1 into ghostwolf.
>>586485410druid so i can get aura
>>586485475>>586485563>>586485587I'll be exclusively playing bear tank.
>>586485465I also hate the cynical faggots, but theres nothing wrong with some good old shitposting. Eventually some memes and internal autisms are developed through the shitflinging.I wouldnt ban it if I could. Its one of the few places ans activities that remind me of the old internet
>>586485475>>586485587they were one of the most played classes on the beta though
>>586485413See>>586483718
>>586485475>>586485587I think these posts are jokes. There’s going to be a deluge of druids but raids will only want 1-2 at most and they’ll only be wanted for bear OT and maybe oomkin.
>>586485124t. user on the most hateful website ever created
>>586474007my final form
>>586485437Of course bro pvp sounds like a pain>>586485617>Ghost Wolf may be used indoorsHuge QoL feature. Why would it be bait?
>>586485723Which website is that?
>>586484174>just got to have a fresh forever server every year with changes like an arpg seasonthis
>>586485124>i get enjoyment from others having funThis nigga likes to watch ahaha
>>586485693yeah but that was before the nerfs
>>586485048But how does this affect you personally?
>>586485790You put 2 point so it's instant cast you fucking reatrd
>>586485124Holy based same anon
>>586485048Thats some Pixar slop right there
>>586485587I hope you get people with this one.
>>586484969You niggers ruined the game for me when 3.0 launched, we are not on the same team.
>>586485794I will never understand why plebbitors like you come here.
>>586485884But why? That's one point just to save two seconds, sounds wasted
>>586485465idk lol
>>586485969>capstones entirely removed and replaced with 2 mid-tier talents from earlier in the tree>no fear immunityy-yeah.... sure....
>>586486008Just imagine how much worse druids would be if travel form had a cast time.
>>586485124Me also, but as long as Im not left behind on loot. If others get what they wand and I get none of mine, the internal seething is intense
>>586483421You probably want missile barrage in arcane since it doesn't make you lose much. With 450 sp you're shooting 340 damage bolts every .5 sec for 0 mana to any target attempting to los you or when you can't hardcast something else and have nothing better to do.
>>586486087Damn so casters are going to wand everything?
>was planning on rolling druid>theyre going to be a popular class, apparentlyfuck. what class is the speshul snowflake class going to be?
>>586485973i dont even know what 3.0 is. just here to have fun
>>586486087PUT BLOOD ELVES IN BLIZZARD HELLO
>>586486049You assume these people care about metafaggotry over living out their gay furry fantasies
>>586486137warlock
>>586486078Mhhh alright maybe I will put two points in there.To be quite frank with you, I didn't realize it would make it instacast. I thought it was just that with two points you still have casting time, just that it's like 1 sec less
>>586486000Been here since 2008, just wanted to know which is that evil, most hateful website you were talking about.
>>586485675undead cuties are so underestimated, the only annoying think is the bones but thankfully you can hide them thanks to Xi Jinping
>>586486087that elf has a cock.
>>586486137Warlock.Also I'm betting most of the druid tourists will crash out long before level 60. The normies need to see their precious gear at all times, and if they aren't topping charts then they are useless
>>586486127lock priest and mage will
>restedxp>buying gold>starting political arguments in general chat>being racist in guild chat and accusing people of being brown>being toxic to random group members and kicking them from the group at the slightest mistake >manipulating the AH like a kike and screwing over my own community >spending my dkp on pvp gear and contributing very little to raids>if I meet a verifiable foid tell her I can get her raid gear for nudes>comfy fishing with my pet bear Barry Yep it's time to game
>>586486137do a spriest. i would if i wasnt going shaman
>>586486137Shaman if ur Alliance, Druid if ur horde
Is it true I won’t get invited to raids if I play resto druid? I always liked druid healing the most and I don’t want to play bear or cat or bird.
>>586483250Attacking consumes all stacks, god damn, you can't read either>>586483104stacks do matter, but 4 individual chances to proc SoC in a single attack is not 'windfury on command'You have around a 46% chance to get 0-1 procs and a 54% chance to get 2-4
>>586486212>i am le heckan old fag!!!!
>>5864860082 secs is dying in a fire or not
>>586483001>the formula is still revolving around BIS in every slot.To add to what >>586484104 is saying:If your goal is getting the biggest number, then yes, you'll always reach an optimal point where there's nothing else to do. Even if you complexify the talents/gear, someone will just make a guide and others will follow it.What some people are apparently unable to understand is that you can have other goals than optimizing your DPS.
predict todays patch notes>Sinister strike now deal 0,2% more damage
>>586486313Raids will probably want a resto druid just to slap hots on the tank and to raid heal. And to absorb shitty druid gear drops that nobody else can use
>>586486254you menace
This is your tank tonight, say something nice about they/them
>>586486217bones are sovl
>>586486459>mage gets another round of changes for no real reason>token shaman changes>token rogue changes
>>586486087didnt read. MOAR
>>586486331Looks like you're very well accustomed with how reddit is, and you think 4chan is the most hateful website ever. Says a lot more thank you think
>>586486510why? the minute I make any joke that could intentionally misinterpreted as even slightly right of center, they kick and /ignore me and probably ineffectually report me.Trannies did their own graves.
What do I do for 2 days?
>>586486510>mono bear>mono bear without points in nature's reach/majestyick
>>586486510*Pulls down pants**Lets out a big greasy pepperoni fart then takes a big stinky caca log down their throat*
>>586486598Not if you wont read
>>586486678unhinged obsessed reply
>>586486510>letting a druid tank>when there will be a million op pallys running around
>>586486521I mostly hate the spine, rest is fine ig
>>586484639But private servers are (or at least were) better than Forever? How much of a Blizz cum guzzler are you? (frankly a lot considering you avatarfag as a fucking sky elf)
>>586486708They're already hit capped and play night elf (body type 2).
You have some cool old WoW videos? (pvp/exploration/machinima/...)I remember a Korean warlock soloing Slave Pens heroic in original TBC by exploiting pathing, but I can't seem to find it.
>>586486180>>586486246>>586486296Lock is my primary alt and I'm horde so, fuck yeah. I'll show the furfag droodtroons what a real druid looks like.>>586486264nah, spriest is my duo with my lock when my wagieslavie buddy gets off work.
what professions should i take as a balance/resto druid? herbalism/skinning then drop skinning for alchemy?
>>586484775>streamersAmigo, why would I watch someone else play a game?
>>586486804Just pick less hit gear so you don't have to put points into natural reaction.
>>586486853engineering and either leatherworking or tailoring
what do you think of my build?
>>586486650>esl plebbitor thinks he belongs here
>>586482391Just like in my chinese skinmnerbox games!
>>586486770unhinged obsessed weirdo response
>>586486087Why cant Blood Elves actually look like this in game?
>>586486853Enchanting for the idols
>>586486893https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOMwjw_0VZ0
>>586486893frosty
>>586486776There will be mana burn mechanics in every raid rendering paladin useless.
>>586486853Engineering is hard requirement for raiding and soft requirement for PvP>second professionif you don't raid pick gathering profession but f you raid you need to pick tailoring, smithing or leatherworking.
I'm excited about wowf but I do fear it'll be retoiletificated with all the """"""""""""""QoL"""""""""""""
>>586486650>what is the internet hate machine
>>586486893
>>586487005>RaidDungeon, actually.Mana is a fucking terrible resource for tanks, more so in classic, and as per usual, the blizzard hotfix is to make it meaningless for tanks.
>>586482391>turtle wow: f2p private server with a questionable cash shop>official wow: $15 per month + a questionable cash shopTurtle was better.
>>586487009Leatherworking gives gear when leveling so druids will benefit the most from that
I've never played priest healer before, was threat ever an issue in classic? should I use the top spec on the bottom one?
I will play ForeverI will pretend it's goodI will Blizzard's honor on an anonymous Dragonscale leatherworking image board I will eat Aggrend's greasy ozempic diharrea directly from his ass and compliment him on how thin he looks.
>>586487094>f2p
>>586487012It already is. They added a boat to Stormwind Harbor that lets NE avoid the Wetlands run.
>>586482391this makes turdies seethe
>>586487031You're really going to use a term coined by a local Fox News broadcast to prove your point?
>>586487165If a tank can't generate more threat than you can without the talent you should get a new tank
I aim to be the most annoying cunt possible you can't kill and will rot you down over minutes. Any other suggestions?
Paladin>retritbution aura uncapped targets, scales with spell power, 123% increased threat generation>consecration uncapped targets, scales with spell power, 123% increased threat generationDruid>swipe 75% threat modifier, plus 50% from bear form scales with attack power, no cooldown, 15 rageWarrior>thunderclap, no threat modifier only a tiny 30% from defensive stance, scales with attack power, 6 second cooldownWhy does warrior get basically 0 aoe threat when the other two can pull entire dungeons?
>Alliance pve
>>586487229I'm fine with the darnassus boatI'm talking about "qol" "features" they keep adding
>>586487223Yes? You typically don't have to pay anything to play on private servers?
>>586487165Healer threat is essentially irrelevant. You're missing inspiration which is important.
>>586487386Because they are the only ones who have an actual complete tank kit.
>>586477407some bosses you would feign and drink
>>586487358play a skyborne druid and have the gayest uwu :3 furfag troon name you can think of.Also, you can make macros that will speak in a certain language, such as Darnassian.
>>586487395I don't understand this ritual post.
any locked girlies in thread??
>>586487358This is pretty much my build but I'm not sold on wrath, so I maxed genesis and moonglow instead
>>586487481see>>586481016
QoS or Horde tattoo for my fem gnome?
What addons everyone rolling with?
>>586487474isn't that more the job of the shaman?
msot fun pve spec?
it looks like hardcore is going to be the replayability of forever, an arpg mechanic that is a huge timesinkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gzo6t7xmK0Qhardcore is the only reason to play pve server -it makes senseimagine playing a pve server softcore lolpvp is the normal gamehardcore is for pve
>>586487610Yeah the wrath is more for when they're targeting someone else.
>>586476542to japanese, aryans are stinky subhuman instant gratification monkeys.
>>586487031All Im saying is, I stand accused of being a redditor by a guy who thinks 4chan is the secret society evil hate club for twisted psychopaths.Imagine how insignificantly little of whats really out there those npcs know about if they think 4chan is the pinnacle of bad
>>586487649We finna
How hard will alliance troons riot over UD racial in pvp in coming weeks? I bet its gonna be diabolical
>>586487675Hardcore is like if they took a racing game and made you drive the speed limit. Completely misses the point of the entire genre.Absolutely great way to convince retards to self-segregate, though.
>>586487728finna what?
>>586487312performative newfag outrage. shut the fuck up
>>586487734>implying like 90% of the shitters in pvp will even use itdadgamers don't press any buttons unless it does damage and that is the vast majority of the players
>>586487452I would prefer to double the sub to $30 to keep more brown people out.
>>586487658Can't guarantee that there's always some shaman keeping it up on every relevant target. I mean you got 2 points in wand spec so it's not like you're lacking points.
>>586487839Finna load her up on my jeans
Add flesh skin options for FemsakenAdd Horde Satyr or Man'ari EredarAdd GoblinsThat is all
Anyone want to play on RP-PVP with me and RP as husbands? I’m going to be playing Tauren Warrior and you can play Orc.
>>586487687>um acshually my community college liberal arts teacher told me its all relativeshut the fuck up and get ratioed, chink island degenerate.
Nelf druid or Tauren druid?PvP or PvE?Choices, choices...
>>586487165I would drop the wand damage and take inspiration, maybe drop one point from mental agility or renew to max out inspiration
>>586487924im talking about 5% leech, that shit is insta win in every 1v1
>>586488019not even if you were the hotest femboy in the world
BM Hunter is about to shit on everyone
>>586488074ehhhh kinda if you proc it on a giga hit but still
>>586487929I would literally pay Blizz $100 a month for a premium server (ruleset, whatever) that was nation-locked and had no gay censorship bullshit.
>>586487993None of this shit has to be added to the game for you to goon to it, secondary.
>>586487618putting ideas in greentext doesn't make them better anon, half of them are complete BSBlocking spells for example is fluffy for paladin but ultimately very shit and only mitigates a really small amount of damage. Paladins don't even have any debuffs to refresh other than seal of the crusader, which already refreshes itself without talentsHoly Strike is pretty shit and does like 40% of your weapon damage - vs Revenge which now scales very nicely with attack power and does miles more damage. Holy Strike will scale awfully for prot because you want to stack spellpower for threat.
>>586487734I'm not sure why they think it not having an immunity is a big nerf, yeah it's a nerf but when you get feared by a war or a priest that immunity wasn't doing much anyways.meanwhile everyone is sleeping on TotG but having a +300 -300 for free every 15-20s is really good>>586488063>>586487941Ig I can use it instead for end game healing
>>586487834a racing game - yep, it's this attitude that ruins every gameit's the attitude that humans have that is ruining the world, ruining them selves
More like Bowel Movement Hunter is about to eat everyones shit.
>>586487834>Completely misses the point of the entire genre.sure, if your only reference point is retail.
>>586488154If 1v1 lasts for example 20s, undead will deal 10% of enemys health for free and leech 10% of their hp back. Its just broken and alliance will be seething
is this spec kek or cringe
>>586488178The only one of those I want to goon to is the goblin one. In have draenei aren't muscular enough for that.
humans cannot help themselves in the name of progress and efficiency
>>586488297>didn't take the most overpowered button in the history of the gameretard
>addon highlights veins and herbs even when not trackingWhy is this allowed?
>>586487734>>586488206Also alliance act like UD racial was broken but in WSG being able to pre-cast fear ward on your entire team was kinda broken, and that will no longer be possible
>>586488232ESL brownoid>>586488291>classic was designed so that players should never die>the top guilds in Vanilla were top guilds because they never ever wiped on Molten Corederrrrrr
>>586487865What is this zoomer speak?
>>586488362shieldsworn? i cant have that and holy shock. its not a prot build, supposed to be a tanky pvp healer
>>586488297If theres enough spell power plate with mp5, it could work as a flag carrier and a general annoying pieco shito
>>586488367holy shit thats obnoxious
>>586488367SACRE BLUE! Quelle outragę!
>>586488362She took holy shock albeit
>>586488469>flag carrier without pursuit of justice>when druids exist???
>>586486893unironically better than Improved Counterspell one
>>586488367WoW players try not to cheat for 1 minute challenge difficulty: impossible (FAILED)
You now remember Jahy
>>586474626Mainlanders had to live through multiple generations of scarcity where you had to be the biggest scammer or else someone else would scam you. It was literally a matter of life and death to the point that it became ingrained in their collective conscious. Taiwan Chinese dont act like that.
>>586487386all of those abilities do 40 DMG and are not going to hold threat against someone going full blast on the wrong target regardless of threat multiplier
>>586488445internet hate machine and newfag are ancient terminology lil gup
>>586488023>an example of poor long term thinking and impatience. if you low iq browns hadn't embargoed the japanese you wouldn't be fighting and losing an endless war against china.
>>586486893ive got chills just looking at it
>>586488367Vibecode addons are going crazy. Is it really this easy to just shit out working addons and games without any knowledge or do you at least need to have some coding knowledge?
>>586488446>PvP healer>Doesn't take the most overpowered healer buttonDokko dokko fecal-cuck
>>586488689>losingshow me the Chinese bases within ICBM range of America.>>586488629Its not cheating if the devs allow it.
>>586488768yes
>>586488794im retarded okay.. which button is the op one?
>>586488442yeah that’s exactly what i said
>>586488367What addon is this? I'm going Mining/Herb
>>586488843don't speak on topics you weren't around for lil gup
Is quinn playing?
>>586486254>restedxpu monster
Can I get Claude to make an addon that adds giant floppy leaking cocks to every female model?
>>586488683Performative outrage is not and neither is lil gup. Stop pretending to be an oldfag, you sound like a post-irony streamer addicted zoomer. I 100% have been here longer than you and "internet hate machine" was never used as a real term outside of memeing on Fox News.
>>586488689> wouldn't be fighting and losing an endless war against china.China is America’s biggest trading partner. There is no place in the planet we are even engaging in a proxy warfare with them. WTF are you even talking about?
>>586486893pretty cool
>>586488630She got pregnant and has kids now btw
>>586488297looks annoying. i like it
>>586488293it's 10% of their own hp as shadow damage - for any non warrior or paladin this is the tiniest amount
>>586488367Blizzard really needs to disable all addons.
Excited to watch Asmon on Wednesday.
>>586488986you’re replying to a different person, shit for brains
>>586478828Yes.
>>586489060you know warlocks have more HP than most warriors & paladins?
>>586489117>asmonlol
>>586488994iran?though to be fair iran is more america fighting the whole world including america
>>58648906010% of 4-5k is a lot
>>586489004>Jahy>sheHe still posts on the private server general
>>586488367Some people are visually impaired so these help them.Stop acting like a cringe chud.
>>586489117I’ve been scrimping and saving as much as I can to donate… oh I hope he says my name on stream!
>>586482010>soured on the game before it even launcheddamn that was quick
>>586488648I'm pretty sure that if you pay $133 for extra rested xp you're the one getting scammed
>>586489128You're both equally retarded so I couldnt tell.
>>586484874>midnight>its midwow
>>586488653druid and paladin have no problem holding threat when retarded dps attack different targets.
you can preinstall nowand blizzard is super gay for capping DL speed
So if forever ends up being a flop do we just kuselvesss?????????
>>586488442low iq esl lol
>>586487929I mean I would gladly pay $30 or even $50 a month if blizzard removed the cash shop and token. This would also potentially keep browns out maybe.
>>586489201>america and China are having a proxy war in IranI curse whatever retard who taught you to speak English and walk on two legs. Double the sub fee.
>>586488689The funniest thing about WW2 is that Americans helped the communists they claimed to hate on both fronts and none of the problems they have today would exist if they hadnt gotten involved.
>>586489469>my 30 damage consecrate and ret aura ticks are way better than warriors using cleave and sunder every second
Lfm sm cathedral, i am in booty bay so i need summon. Your response?
>>586478828>break out of one fear>warlock just fears you againOk and? Are we forgetting that WotF no longer makes you immune?
>>586489565>he didn't install the stress test that was the launch client
>>586489724bro alliance warlock will be the least played class for a reason, even though they will be the best dps class
>>586489684Sad but true
>>586489228oh nobody knows who that is then
>>586489565bro complaining about such insane download speed. i have 11mb per sec here. how in the fuck do you have so much?
>>586489789warlock is always the least played class
>>586485034anon aint gay no more after forever release?
>>586489572We pretend we never played because we knew this would happen and say things like "what kind of brainless good goy do you have to be to play WoW in 2026"
>>586489789nah its gonna be rogue cause rogues are optimizerchuds and they've seem the total nonsense sim results. rogues will never recover
>>586489710Not a big deal because horde fags can cross both continents in 5 minutes thanks to their imba travel hubs
>>586489838make sure your shit isn't self capped
>>586489565i just had to download 1.9gb tho?
>>586489948it isnt
>>586485174>monetizingin case you haven't noticed, there's a monthly subscription cost.
>>586490026then don't be australian
>>586489565>he didn't already name reserveoh nononono
REEEEEEE I HIT THE UNINSTALL FOREVER BETA BUTTONWHY IS THIS SHIT NOT GIVING ME A "u sure" PROMPTREEEEEEE
it is true the wow community is trashhardcore is the true wow experience
>>586490073they know their product is subpar. they are doing you a favour
>>586489896maybe on horde but on alliance it will be warlocks
>>586490072>paying money for a name on a game that will die in a month
Dwarf or Skelf hunter?
apparently the 30 days with preorder beta access have counted down DURING the betai thought you got 30 days to play the forever release??
>>586490075>>586490075>>586490075New bread
>>586490072>he had a name so unoriginal, shitty and common he had to pay to reserve it
>>586490126>>586490135You didn't pay money for a name. You paid money for the skelf pack and other goodies as well as the beta + 30 days of playtime
>>586490073skill issue
https://x.com/Barny/status/2117239248629674409https://x.com/Barny/status/2117239248629674409https://x.com/Barny/status/2117239248629674409Can't wait for the chuds to get pwned
>>586490172>private server general
>>586490337>>586490337>>586490337
>>586490363nigger
>>586481585>Xbox players buying gameslmao. they will play the games on goypass like usual
>>586489684Cleave and Thunderclap have no threat modifier. Also cleaving with a fast 1h weapon barely does any damage. Tab targeting sunder armor and revenge doesn't work because the modern WoW player just attacks whatever they want and doesn't follow marked targets at all, so it's too many GCDs to pull off.There are two options to fix warriorOption 1>Make druid and paladin aoe threat just as weak>Increase dungeon mob damage so it 1 shots anyone that isn't a tankOption 2>Make Thunderclap deal significantly more threatYou either have to strongly punish people not following the kill order, or make warrior as strong as the other two tanks so kill order doesn't matter.
>>586483213good thing I'm raiding with a guild of my irl friends and not meta-chasing schizos :)
>>586489838Getting 100 MB/s which is low because I actually have like 800 with fiber optic to my home office.
>>586489838Yeah some people don't know how good they have it. I have 15 mb/s and consider this fast because I grew up with such shitty internet
>>586491509Oooh thats even worse. Make peace with those soon being friends no more.
>>586491503Or just make them generate more rage to be able to tab sunder+hs on every swing
>>586486331>newfag subhuman exposes himself as an argumentpottery
>>586492193That doesn't work because it requires significantly more GCDs than a druid or paladin to capture the same number of targets.
>>586486254Same but barely legal twink dick picks. I'll even get them a permanent raid spot if they send a sharpie butt pic like the submissive little manchild they always are.
