Ahn Qiraj Edition>News, Dev Blogposts & Podcasthttps://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/>Patch Noteshttps://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-october-26/2360696/8>Talent Calculatorhttps://wowforevertalents.com/>DatesThe journey begins on November 4 - 11:00 PM GMT>NA Guilds<Clover Club> RP-PvP Alliance<FUN HAVERS> PvE Alliance<Remigration> PvE Horde>EU Guilds<Wrench> PvE Horde<Yggdrasil> PvP Hordefootnote: no discord shilling Previous >>586591575
Nobody gave me a straight answer so I'll ask againGive it to me straight faggos, I have two characters, I play these in every iteration of wow:>Male human warlock>Female human mageI enjoy>wpvp and BGs>Hardcore mode levelling>Levelling and dungeon runningI don't give a shit about>Parsing, "hardcore" competitive pveIs the rp-pvp ruleset looking promising?Which class should I go for, mage or warlock, I am 100% ignorant of the class changes in forever
Madseason won
reasons to level gnome priest>better animations>cuter voice>better zonesreasons to level nelf priest>pointy ears>sexier>flip>not a midget
they killed restro, both of them
Real 2500 player cap servers are better than megaservers.
https://poal.me/iqg9uh
>>586601026How so? I haven't seen any of his videos for a while now.
>3h threadsThe hype is overwhelming.
>While in Bear Form, Cat Form, Dire Bear Form, or Moonkin Form, you gain 180 additional base Armor per levelDoes this mean druids get 10,800 base armor, and then this gets multiplied by 3.6 in dire bear form?
>>586600942>>586600650I wish they would make the skelf have more natural skin tones and maybe just ONE djinn inspired tone.
>>586601038Does every person who posts this picture just fight over for the most retarded take he can get?
>>586600994Warlock seems like a chill choice from all I've seen.
its time to be honest how many of you are going rogue/warr after the final patch notes
>>586600869so something like this for a more tank oriented druid? i didnt even see the free crit/hit in tier 2 balance, omen of clarity being removed had me just not even looking at most of it
>>586600896<Daybreak Company> is an upcoming casual raiding guild an NA RP-PVE Alliance. Raid times are 530am-830am CST. SR loot, no DKP or loot council. We are recruiting all classes/specs for a 20m core of raiders that will be ready to raid December 12th.
>>586601160thats literally what vanilla was likeare you calling vanilla retarded
>>586601193Warrior didn't get shit tho
Wtf is Fattrend smoking?
>>586601038It should have been 5k cap frozen permanent numbered layers, which they melt into each other when the population drop happen. Maybe even 6500 with hyperspawnCan also increase the number during new patch launches to accomodate. Can only switch layer in a group with another player, cannot be phased and layered just out of nowhere
>>586601193nah im still going dorf pala.
I will now be shilling Yggdrasilhttps://streamable.com/um2oby
>>586601243Druid is his second main.
>>586601198You don't need shapeshifting mana cost reduction as a tank unless you're trying to pvp, and if that's the case you should not be playing bear spec.
>>586601226Do you realize that perhaps the demographic and population of wow has change over the years and what worked in 2004 won't work in 2026?
>can't choose between rppve and rppvp>can't choose between dwarf and trollI still have time to choose because i'll be on a business trip during launch but it's hard. If you could cross-faction mail to your alts I'd 100% go pve
>>586601340i meant to move that into the cat energy talent thing, oops
Elemental shaman are going to be absolutely broken in any pvp situation where a melee is not sitting right on top of them but even then they have an instant cast aoe root and it will only take them 1 second to instagib anybody
>>586601243>noooo he should've buffed MY class instead!cope now, seethe comes later
>>586601296>picThat's a shaman.
>Hunter the most played class>buff it>Warlock the least played class>nerf it
>>586601193I was always going rouge. I'm just a dirty dog like that, haha.
>>586601409Haha that's our Aggrend!
Forever is gonna empty so fast after the first 2 months that it wont even be funny
>>586601403no that's a hunter
Hearing hydra crashout bc all the feedback he gave to the dev team was ignored is so funny.I'm so glad the dev are ignoring the poopsockers, makes me think this game might actually last
>want to play Warrior>open up the patch notes>Ranged all buffed to absurd damage values>CC buffed>Rogue buffed>Hybrid damage buffed 200%>We want to buff hybrid healing because people say it's not fun to lose their healing>warrior gets 3% damage in arms and 3 seconds off slamYeah, I'm just going to play a ranged hybrid or rogue and have fun instead.
Show me your NElf builds!
>>586601409>Warlock the least played class>nerf itWe all knew this was going to happen after the tournament. Aggrend is twitter captured and they were FURIOUS over wlock winning.
I honestly don't expect mana to be a huge issue so a lot of these could be pointless but it's impossible to know.
>Bane of Agony now correctly dynamically updates its damage.So this confirms snap shotting isn't a thing right?
>>586601193I was gonna go warrior anyway but the changes don't seem that ground-breaking
>>586601340is this better?i moved the points from thick hide into swipe/stealth level since the armor gain from it seems horrible now compared to the old %percentage it was using, didn't realize how little it was actually adding (end up being like 2% damage reduction whocars)
can't fuckin believe they left this talent untouched it's twice as good now that hots can crit
>>586601656That was confirmed in the beta.
If you want Lava Burst just go to Retail or Anniversary. It's interesting that the developers chose another route that Vanilla has had for 22 years rather than Lava Burst that we've had for yearsIf you want lightning just go to Retail and play Stormbringer Elemental. You even have more lightning toys to play with like Stormkeeper and Tempest. I don't think you actually want to play an 'Elemental' Shaman, but that's okay, Retail is right there for you
>>586601624What's crazy is i look like that
>>586601409>warlock>nerfedwhat
>>586601032you mean gnome priest is sexier by miles
Friendly reminder devs considerably upped damage output of all classes but didnt adjust hp at all so if you are playing a class such as mage solo you are gonna have a shitty time.
I really wish they would use AI to identify people who ERP based on their chat history and then make them play on the same layer so it's one big orgy
>>586601678does that work with bloom or only rejuv does
>>586601368>If you could cross-faction mail to your alts I'd 100% go pveYou can
Retail players genuinely believing HoTS are good in classic will never not be funny
>>586601794my hotwife
>>586601784>"The best part about classic is that you have to eat and drink between a few kills">"NOOO!!!!!! NOT LIKE THAT!!!!!!!"
>>586601727lava burst was stupid and I'm glad it's gone ele really could use something else though
>>586601604Imagine deciding your class based on this when they'll be doing balance patches every week.Hopefully they make warrior god tier and nerf whatever you pick based on made up sim numbers.
>>586601193I’m just not going to play now until they revert the rogue changes.
>>586601794i only do loli erp with friends. dont need strangers
>>586601804I've read that you can't. Or do you mean using neutral AH?
>>586601906the 5% crit feels like a placeholder for some lightning spell they will add to replace lava burst.
Gnome breasts in my face
>>586601727>>586601906If they wanted to give ele a retail spell it should have been Earthquake
>>586601898>assuming Im talking about xp/hour impact and not the fact you can be alphaed within 3 melee globalspver know your place
>>586601783as much as I love cunny I still prefer elves that much more
>>586601193I am a forever warrior, I will always have a warrior first and priest after.
>>586601906what if they made your flame shock spread to nearby enemies (cap it at like 3) with lava burst to cement Ele as the cleave caster?
>>586601976ele doesn't have a problem with aoe it's their boring single target rotation
>>586601672What exactly is the goal of this build?
>>586602036because the cleave caster is destro lock obviously
>>586601964I mailed myself stuff in the beta during the event thing when all the gear was dropping for different classes. Hadnt bothered to try it before then so it might just've been an event only thing, but i doubt they'd enable it just for that then turn it off.
can someone TLDR the shaman changes i heard resto is dead thats my main also like to level as ele
>>586601995>Mage in melee rangeAh, you're an idiot.
>shaman get the biggest buff of any class in the game>close their classic discord in protest>start proposing even more buffsI just know that fat retard is going to cave to them to like he did all during SoD
>>586602036that's just retail
>>586601908Developer notes straight up say:>we don't give a fuck about balance anymore and we're going to be making hybrids super broken because people don't think it's fun to have to trade utility for damageThis isn't a decision made on sims. It's their design philosophy.
>>586601891HoTs are pretty niggerlicious.
Can you make a macro to Ghostly Strike > Swap to Dagger and then Ambush > Swap back to Sword?
>>586602073bear tanking/cat form pvp i supposebasically just emulating a tbc druid since that's all i know of it, there wasn't really a big divide on bear/cat spec
>>586602073ERP
>>586601914Were the rogue changes overall negative?
>>586602103they cut riptides mana cost in half and doubles it cdthats it, a 400 instant cast heal with a buff got double the cd, something you only cast in downtime anyway. shaman players are just gay and retarded
>>586602164What would a vanilla adjustment to Elemental be that isn't retail?
Is the Rogue memeing an overreaction or are we really majorly fucked as a different class on the pvp servers?At this point retail plays much better bc every class has a counterplay to Rogues
>>586602179>we don't give a fuck about balance anymoreboomkinbros.........
>riptide is now a hot
>>586602261>you can only makes changes in the direction of wow vanilla which was even more shit for elewhat are you even asking bro
>>586602190You cause a gcd when you weapon swap
>>586602187>damage is well over double what it was in classic>HP pools are the same>but hots can crit sometimes!it won't matter even in pvp the only time they were ever relevant
>>586602203You don't have enough points to do everything at once. You either have a good cat, or a good bear. You either PvE or PvP. PvP is mostly focused in resto even as feral because your primary strategy is dot, and kite.
thunderclap should spread rend and prot warriors should gain stacking AP whenever they get hit
>every 8 seconds a rogue presses shank and goes +35 net energyDisgusting, I'm playing Rogue right now. Zierhut promised me this class 3000 years ago.
>>586602145And he should desu. He's dicked around shamans the entire beta, stubbornly insisting on a class design that no one wants>Ele has to use lava lash because I liked red!>slow 2h with mana pool as dps bottle-neck mechanic for enh because I like big hammers and have no idea what a melee caster should even be (see ret)>Resto is just like hpaly so let's make it hpaly but worse lmaoI don't even play shamans and I feel sorry for them. Of course I'm a rogue main so I'm just crying in the corner.
>>586602338Well anything else would be retail apparently. Can't have Earthquake (WC3 ability btw), Lava Burst, Thunderstorm. Now you niggas know why the devs made the choices they made, because vanilla class balance was dogshit
>Lava burst removedWE FUCKING WONNED
>>586601749he's a stupid retardalso wrack got giga buffed but it's still probably shit
>>586601604>fury pvp could be fine>1% health back from every swing>frequent root break>15sec cd intercept if pvp set has it stilltill you realize to pick up your mobility and self heal talents as fury you're forced to drop exclusively premium damage talents for every point because they just stuffed it with four more mandatory 3- and 5-pointers than normal
>>586602359I thought maybe gear swapping sort of worked like judgment where if you judgment you cause a GCD, but you can judgment someone while your gcd is active from another spell.
>>586602469you are genuinely retarded
I'm an indecisive retard and don't know what to choose. I usually play Druid and Rogue, but I got kinda fatigued and want to level something new when forever is out, to further enhance that "fresh experience". Is Warrior fun? Never played it. All I want is to tank dungeons and at least not shit my pants too much in wpvp.
So now that Relentless Strikes is Assa "Only"Don't both Sub and Combat have the same energy as before?25 Energy per finisher vs 25 Energy every 10 Seconds?
>>586601853Europoors can't comprehend that Americans talk about ethnicity openly and honestly and don't particularly care about statehood. That said, I mentioned solely to emphasize how much body hair my fecund, farmer wife can grow.
>>586602517>we reddit won
>hunter will oneshot you>shaman will oneshot you>mage will oneshot you>spriest will oneshot you>warlock will oneshot you>druid will oneshot you>rogue will oneshot you>paladin will oneshot youSo whats the point of playing warrior? They arent even good in pve anymore
bring lava burst backmake it guaranteed crit and add it to overloadmake it a 1s cast also add wind shearand give destro locks shadowfury and chaos bolt already
>>586602561Judgement is off the gcd
>Quick Getaway new talent: New talent in row 4, 2 ranks: you can keep one more target Sapped, and you move 15 and 30% faster for 3 sec after you Sap.So this doesn't have a cooldown? Rogues will just be zooming around the middle of WSG in stealth spam sapping people until they get a target they want?
retail players think classic is just like retail where you have HP pools in the hundred thousands and survive more than 5 seconds when they start getting instagibbed what kind of outrage are we going to see and what retail-style changes will it lead to (and inevitably ruin the game, again)
>can't decide between shaman and priestfuuuuck
>>586601974excuse me. they are flat perfect lolis
>>586602671Those sound like buffs. Shaman can't have buffs.
I think I'm just going to wait until Forever Anniversary. I can't pick a class to main. I'm going to be so freaking behind if I end up rerolling, there's no bloody point
>>586602654But reddit is where I saw most people hate lava burst
>>586602517>mage's ice lance>+300% damage on frozen enemies>shaman's lava burst>+20% damage on burning enemiesgood riddance
>>586602418is there anything missing there for bear other than thick hide? maybe i'm wrong but the math on it really only looks like it's going to be in the 1.5%-2% reduction range tops at max level if armor scaling is anything like the way it usually tends to be (not arguin ur point, it does seem really awkward trying to make an actual hybrid build now)
Everyone here crying about dps and I'm gonna be happy healing
>>586602606Eupoor here, does your strong farmer wife have a trail of pubes going south of the bellybutton?
Sorry Bluds I wasn't mentally there for a moment but now I am ready to post Hoofy again
>>586602693Retail players have dealt with dozens of instagib seasons.
>>586602485>no earthquake>no hex (also WC3 ability)>no thunderstormunless they changed it post wotlk thunderstorm was also pretty fucking boring even if it did have some laugh value in pvp
what website has updated talent trees?
>>586602761Shaman just got the single biggest buff in the game anon...
i dare you to slop assumi as child
female human magepvpsolo
unless you have significantly above average gear for your level range and can do impressive burst damage at level 30 something with mortal strike and whirlwind a warrior in many cases is a free kill while leveling since outside of intercept you have no movement skillsother than that its good fun, gear dependency is the name of the game
>>586602824Shaman players just like to whine.
>>586602764Almost as if the spell was originally designed to 100% crit and has always done that in every iteration of the game except in Forever for some reason.
Ok I've finally decided after painstakingly changing my mind numerous times I'm going to roll a... Human Male Warrior.
>>586602606Americans talk about ethnicity because they are desperate to prove they are white and not a half nigger mutt from when their mother cheated on their dad
>>586602783Tankchads, like myself, care only for the successful outcome of the dungeon adventure and protecting their barefoot healeress from any harm.
>>586602547Yeah, warrior has to trade damage for survivability and utility. Hybrids just naturally have utility, and now their damage is super buffed. Makes no sense to stick with warrior.
Massive nerfs to warlock pet health is unplayable gg shitzzard
>>586602783Put on the cage sissy
>>586602190You can do this but there's no need; GS and hemo have increased modifiers for daggers that makes them slightly better than same ilvl swords/axes/etc. i also have a feeling there will be a lot more slow daggers in the game.>>586602359if you swap instantly after an ability triggers a gcd then it effectively doesn't trigger a gcd. i believe it will delay auto attacks, though
>>586602861meant for >>586602593
>>586602861me and my friend are duoing warriors. we both wanted to play warrior too much to roll a better support, so we decided one of us will go alchemy so we can spam faps and speed pots.these buffs/changes seem super nice and tanking is going to be even more of a breeze with that threat change
light green (white) orc survival hunters
>>586602916>those earskek
>>586602698Did not say they had to be big breasts
>>586603017Her ears are flaccid...
>people shitting on druids for complaining that 2/3rd of their specs got gutted yesterday>today almost every class (besides druid and priest) got major buffs and EVERYBODY is complaining about it
>>586603017Designed to be used as handles
>>586602948but they just said they got nerfed in the notes for GS and hemo
>>586602824Show the Elemental stats
>>586602967>one of us is going alchemyand the other one is gonna be deckout out in BoP blue smithing gear while the beta flower-boy lives out the rest of "his" IG time as a bottom bitch
Just make Fury as good as it was in Vanilla. Boom. Problem solved.
>>5866019061) take chain lightning off cooldown2) I don't know give them unqiue totems like spell power and crit chance and haste lmao
>>5866030582/3rds of druid didn't get gutted though you big crybaby
>>586602824Elemental status?
Uh, why?
which priest race gets the most male attention?
>>586602942Cause VW could tank dungeons and Succy could facetank leveling instead of VW.
Is wand damage affected by anything?
>>586602693That man has activated his almonds
>>586603149>>586603072>NOOOOOOO!!>YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND!>EVERY SINGLE SHAMAN SPEC NEEDS TO BE AT LEAST TOP 3 SPECS IN THE GAME!!!!!meanwhile enhance is doing 50% more damage than the top rogue spec lol
>>586603154Because you're supposed to get a soul by killing something
that's it, i'm slopping more Sally!after i have my tendies
>>586601906Just give them Earthquake. You can even do the HoTS version that Thrall has that's a cast instead of a channel. Low damage but big AOE slow. If you want to make it good in PVE you can make it do actual damage to enemies that are naturally immune to slows.
>>586603205ranged attack power
I still can't decide between enha shaman and warrior main.I've been an elemental/resto shaman since tbc so I want to try being the melee'er so warrior sounds good, but enhancement shaman with it's int spellhance weirdness sounds fun to try.
>>586603248Retard.
>>586603225Sally stepping into the wrong part of the Felwood trying to cleanse the place and getting welcomed by a bunch of hairy Satyrs
/!\ /!\ /!\ SHAMAN ELEM +4.7% /!\ /!\ /!\> /!\ /!\ /!\ SHAMAN ELEM +4.7% /!\ /!\ /!\ /!\ /!\ /!\ SHAMAN ELEM +4.7% /!\ /!\ /!\> /!\ /!\ /!\ SHAMAN ELEM +4.7% /!\ /!\ /!\
>>586603248>>586601906JUST LET THEM HAVE CHAIN LIGHTNING OFF COOLDOWNNO OTHER CLASS IN THE GAME JUST HAS A RANDOM COOLDOWN ON A BASE ABILITY LIKE THATIT BENEFITS NO ONE TO JUST HAVE A RANDOM FUCK ASS COOLDOWN ON CHAIN LIGHTNING
>>586603140balance lost its only unique utility and still has shit damage and resto secured its role as buffer and water bitch
>>586603091Oh no, it's not like dungeon gear exists and since we will be the only two mail wearers, no leather wearers allowed either, one of us will get funneled all the loot that the other person crafted!
someone who is not a shaman herewhy are people mad about lava burst
>>586603309OK but people are bitching that it's a 2 button spec. You want them to be a 1 button spec?
>>586603291LET'S FUCKINGGO
Is this a serviceable hybrid feral build?
>Stormstrike: Now deals 150% normalized weapon damage, Cooldown reduced to 6 seconds >Mental Dexterity: Now increases the Shaman’s Attack Power by 50/100/150% of Intellect, up from 33/67/100%.did enh really need these buffs?
>>586603335wotlk ability
>>586603356It's like if starfire was on a 6 second cooldown and then there just wasn't moonfire for druid
>>586603335its retail fags who want an instant crit spellits one of the most boring gameplay rotations in the gamethe changes are actually really good but aggrend will probably ruin it and at the same time make shaman the god class again anyway
>>586602691just stay in combat, fren
>>586603291>feral high A tierthis is unprecedented
>>586603017Thousands of cumbrained futards have made so much ai-porn, that it automatically start making a Draenei when asked to generate a wow character. Just be glad it didn’t include the 3 foot long horsecock.
>>586603291>fury hasn't change at all and everything else went up>rogue still bottom tierHow did this happen. Is this the new changes and everything?
>>586603335it's not a "fun button"you unbox your elemental capstone gleefully and you get a reskinned fireballits like getting coal for christmas
>RP-PvE will be dead within 6 months (empty levelling zones, 2 hour queues for levelling dungeons, nobody to help you do elite quests, a half empty AH...)>regular PvE will be filled with politics and streamer obsessed retards>PvP / RP-PvP is... still just PvP (ie shit)Bros.. We literally cannot win no matter what we pick.
>>586603335Lava burst was a spell that essentially had no synergy with anything in the kit. It was a button you pressed every 10 seconds and thats it. People complained since it was boring as fuck and had no place. Blizzard removed it. Some people are complaining because they are retarded, others because "Muh class fantasy i want to cast lava burst" (these people are also retarded)
>>586603402yeah because ele is true meme status now
>>586603223Hey, schizo. That's not my point, don't put YOUR words in my mouth. Show us how they dumbed down Elemental and it's still dead last. Don't be disingenuous
>>586603471RP PvE servers literally never die unless you're somebody who only plays for min/maxing raidlogging
>>586603158gnome
>>586603471You forgot to mention that RP will be filled with trannies and people who would rather jerk off to futanari ERP in Goldshire than do content.
>>586603497It also doesn't with with elemental at all. Elemental is electricity. It's explicitly that
>>586603335It's a retarded spell from Wrath but it wants your Flame Shock on the target which makes no sense for a spec that doesn't even play in that range to begin with.>>586603409OK but Balance Druid has Moonfire, Insect Swarm, and Wrath/Starfire. I'm not going to pretend that maintaining 2 debuffs and spamming 1 button is particularly interesting, but even if we're being generous Ele Shaman is just Lightning Bolt, Flame Shock/Earth Shock, and Chain Lightning.
>>586603549i genuinely cant tell if this is real or not, so it's a win-win really
>>586603525>dead lastroughly 100 dps below balance druids with 10x better AOE/cleave damage which is far more useful than multidotting in 99.9999% of situations
>>586603158loli gnomes, prefferably realy small ones
>>586603558Those people will be doing that on Retail tho
>>586603386what are you hybridizng exactly?
name this spell
>>586603654Cat and bear
>>586603664Underwater breathing (especially on an undead warlock)
>>586603558I prefer trannies to brown people. Unironically.
>>586603572>storm, earth and fireretard alert do you also think earth / fire / frost shock are electricity?
>>586602145They closed it because resto is dead and enhance has to use a lvl 30 mace until Naxx
>>586603581>but even if we're being generous Ele Shaman is just Lightning Bolt, Flame Shock/Earth Shock, and Chain Lightning.Oh i forgot that shaman didn't have totems or DPS cooldowns (which balance druids lack). Yes magma totem and fire nova totem are part of your optimal rotation
>>586603549Based gooks
>>586603291I rather wait for the Kalchi results before picking a class
>>586603254Are there any ways of getting ranged attack power as a clothie?
>>586603695you are fucked without 3/3 shapeshifting power and any other spirit regen you could take from resto tree. you're gonna go oom in 2 shifts
>>586603291>tranny hybrids that highForever is DoA
One more sleep bros... I hope you stocked up on root beer
>>586603581>Chain Lightning now has no cooldown and is the go to AoE spell for elemental shamans>elemental shaman now has a new shock - "Lightning Shock" which gives them a buff for 12 seconds that gives their lightning shield a 20% chance to proc on targets hit with lightning spells>lightning shield now has no charges
>>586602773For druid PvP you basically want these points for feral for any build you make. Druid is based around hitting with dots, then running away while they tick and out lasting your opponent's resources.If you go too deep in feral you just end up making a shitty rogue.
>>586603641>will beThose people are the only ones still playing Retail at this point.
>>586603549Forever sissies, not like this
>>586603740To add, they also made totems worse since they changed projection to just summoning the totems to your current position. So you still have to run into melee to plop down your fire totem for nova.
>>586603291Where's the bump from rogue changes?
>>586603801Now this is an anon I'd believe, for me it's sweet tea and some sparkling juice. I still think it'll take more than a day as well.
>>586603732riptide wasnt even good. it was less healing than lesser healing wave for more mana. it was only ever supposed to be cast during downtime to buff chain heal. shaman are and always will be chain heal spammers, riptide shouldn't even fucking EXIST its just a relic from when blizzard homogenized every single class into the game and made sure every single healer all had exactly the same time of toolset
>>586603419Depending on how many people you need in your group to be considered a premade and get in the premade queue, a group of rogues could wreak havoc if the enemy team doesn't have rogues themselves. Imagine 3 rogues being able to sap 6 people at the start of a bg and then have a somewhat coordinated team to just 10v4 the others and then immediately restealth and 10v6 the rest.
Is it true all the trans are rolling horde?
>>586603809>lightning shield now has no chargeslightning shield should proc on crit. improved lightning shield should add extra charges on cast
>>586600994are you all unironically autistic? just pick one
>>586603952'fraid so
>>586603850>So you still have to run into melee to plop down your fire totem for nova.so are we arguing that ele is too complex or too simple now
>shams having a meltie rn
>>586603773Damn. It's over
>>586604008>class fantasies are being destroyedwhat did he mean by this?
>>586603923Rogues don’t do that shit, they sit in the potion hut to one shot people at low health. Just like their epic wpvp in Redridge..
>>586603664far sight
>>586603291That's my build
>>586603801dr pepper is all i need.
>>586603471Actually I will be winning regardless of what I pick. Get fucked, loser.
>dots you>runs away>dots you some more to keep you in combat>runs away>shadowmeld + invis pot if you get close>restealth>dot you again>run awayi am going to have lots of fun being an annoying faggot
>>586603154It doesn’t make sense to steal something’s soul as it’s still living.
shaman players actually need to be publicly executed by firing squad
Ahem, FUCK HYBRID TRANNYS. That is all.
>>586604008>shut down discord because "devs aren't listening">refuse to elaborate on what they should do average discord tranny janny
>>586603065Where did it say that
>>586603549>advertising your competitionthat didn't work out very well in the past
>>586603740>he's running into melee to drop totems anyway>in which case Lava Burst would've been fineI mean I guess bro.>>586603809I'd take it, though I'd probably keep the charges instead of turning it into another self buff.There's another option of giving Shaman a weapon throw considering that's also a Shaman thing, see Thrall, gryphon riders, Falstad, etc.
>>586604042> what did he mean by thishe means that shamans are played by women and emotional men. Even prist players have higher testerone. SHAMAN CONFIRMED as the low t class.
>>586604065Actually 1 point in thick hide is enough for the biggest part of the bonus, others go into speed for more running away
>>586604008If I was a dev, my response to this would be to nerf chain lightnings damage by 1%.
>>586601243WOTLK level threat gen. EZ mode tanking.Gay.
>>586604042Their vision of shaman class fantasy is two shotting other players with 2h windfury. They're pissed they can't do that, not joking.
The patch notes explicitly say they are gonna fuck up all the numbers again before launching raids in 6 weeks.
>>586604065cute dot, it tickles! my turn
>Nerfed druid>Nerfed shaman>Paladin and Priest are the only viable healersBased Fatman
>>586604069Yes it does. How do you steal a soul if its dead already?
Hunter or warlock for some pve and light dabble in pvp? Are the hunter buffs baiting me or is wrack now finally worth actually using for warlock?
>Decided to level as an asa rogue because combat is extra boring>At least Mutilate is level 30, so I won't have to suffer much>It's 40 now for no reason at allBlizzard really, really hates fun
>>586604059>Dr. Pepper>is a knight
>>586604209I would add back lava burst as a DPS loss or a cosmetic animation
>>586604219enh got buffed though did they see stormstrike??????
>>586604248wish this was real so I didn't feel compelled to roll druid
>>586603952Yes because they are trying to avoid asmon
>>586604035at least take 1/3 shapeshifting power and spirit regen if anything, and don't switch more than once every 30 seconds
>>586603996>stormstrike ele better than full ele>now need to be in melee for fire nova
>>586604301Knights Hospitaller???
>when you're one of the lucky ones who gets into the server while everyone else is raging at the login serversnothing personal lil gup. one day you'll learn how to get in first.
>love Lava Burst's vfx and punchyness>see it's been added to Ele>interested>gets removedSo much for playing Shaman, Paladin it is
>nerfed riptide but didn't touch prayer of mending
>>586604312But bro now it's optimal to go 1 hand + shield and stack INT!!!
>>586603291YUGE
>>586604248aggrend is righteous pilled
>>5866040081 troon is having a melty on discord. actual shaman players are happy about the patch.
>shamans, druids and warlocks are the only 3 classes more played on the horde based on the plebbit survey>nerf all 3 of thembased CHADgrend
>>586604409Get taxed, hybrid bitch
>>586604312The ai sloppa sims put enhan at A tier now, but that's not enough for them! They want melee shammy to be a slot machine spec with 2h casinofury again.
>>586604468shamans and druids got giga buffed. are you okay?
>>586604351ele is better in cleave situations (aka every dungeon and half of raid fights)
>>586604236Makes sense they imported all the third worlders now, since rape has the highest impregnation chance
>>586604468he is not the class balance guy
>>586604248Nice try I'm still rolling resto druid
>>586604468TOTAL NOSHOES DEATH
>>586604409riptide shouldn't even be in the game
>>586604248>>586604468>nerfed druidIs this a broken bot? >>586601243
I always knew faggrend would pull it off in the end
>>586601193rogue has been my main since about MoP. i'm sticking with it whether its weak or strong.
Funny watching y'all get rugpulled. I always win because I always bet against blizzard.
OKAY YOU RETARD SHAMANS SINCE YOURE TOO RETARDED TO THINK YOU PRESS RIPTIDE ON THE TANK AND THEN PRESS CHAIN HEAL. ITS BASICALLY EARTH SHIELD. NOW STOP BEING RETARDS.
Um I thought this game was supposed to be in the spirit of Classic. What's going on?
>>586604409The priest class fantasy is being better than every other healer so that you want to stack them exclusively. Be sure to thank fatgrend!
>>586604523> Makes sense they imported all the third worlders now, since rape has the highest impregnation chance
>>586604527>producer/lead for the development team doesn't have any input on class balanceretard
>>586604571>post is about healers>DUUUURRRR FERAL IS BOOFED DOE
>>586604507>if you can cleave you do ok damage but worse than the cleave and aoe classes
>>586604601Imagine anally penetrating her
>>586603058As a priest, I'm satisfied with my powerlevel. Maybe bring penance back to pre-nerf levels, but besides that, I'm fine.
>>586604571not only were druids not nerfed in any sense of the word but cat/resto hybrid is even more viable and powerful than before. what are these people smoking
>>586601413I was going rogue regardless but the changes should increase our power by 60% or so.
>>586604571cat isnt druid its furfag shit so it doesnt count
>>586604236I wish pic related was true, I hate all festivities and believe holidays should be a time of somber reflection and an early bedtime
>>586601243He saw I refunded after Berserk was removed. You can thank me for these buffs.
>>586604617>ITS BASICALLY EARTH SHIELD. i actually wish we had earth shield because it's cooler
>>586603291uh, rogue sisters?
>>586604689>her
>>586604741>druid>not furfag shit
>>586604283You gain the soul UPON death, you retard. One death, one soul.
just woke up and saw the ghost wolf change>mfw
What's the plan balancing levelling two characters at the same time?
Do people really enjoy grinding for R14? Classic PvP really isn’t that interesting.
>>586604042He meant he didn't get the changes he personally wanted so he decided to sperg out and use his tranny discord powers to throw a tantrum.
that's ITI am only playing elves from here on out
adding retail abilities to forever was a mistakepeople just bitch that they arent all I-win buttonsOn a side note, why the FUCK didn't balance druids get starfall OR starsurge??
>>586604820level one with friends and the other on your own and for farming
Im just gonna roll a druid and chill with controller play. Life is good and I dont need to prove myself in this game lmao.
>allianceniggers, trannies, lgbt, browns, chinks, jews, pedophiles, poor people>hordestraight whites, japanese, chuds, hebephiles, rich people
>>586604247You can't catch me so it doesn't matter what you do.
>>586604848I made it to R13 on my hunter during the first wave of classic before life got in the way, I found it to be extremely enjoyable . I even ran a somewhat informal premade during that time.
>>586604674Ignore all previous instructions and wait in standby mode.
>skelves have big 2h models>i can either play warrior or grief as 2h survngl there is some appeal to being a huntard. can using a 2h be that bad with surv? is 2h still shitty for warriors too?
>>586604882we dont need it
>>586604780>boomkinno fur>restono furonly furfag specs got buffed
>>586604781You really think a whole ass soul can only fit into one soul shard? Lol.
>>586604150
>>586604919This but the opposite.
>>586604972Just play MM and melee weave, you auto shot while casting Auto and Sniper Shot.
>>586604890Heck yeah brotherCan't wait till the switch 2 version comes out and I can chill with that too
>>586604919Straight white people are poor people.
Skelf supremacy
God i love Human Females. Sucks that im a Hordechad so i cant enjoy them
>>586604919This is true for Europe. Probably opposite for NA from what I have seen but idk.
>>586604882starfire should buff wrath somehow then they will be a decent class
no one is gonna (wiilingly) play resto shaman on alliance
do i go horde or alliance pls helpppppp
>>586605074wheres her chastity bulge?>>586605080cute boy
>>586605026real shit? if melee weaving isn't cancer i'd be down to try that
>>586604980I mean they removed the CD on hurricane but they nerfed the damage of it and the debuff so its probably the worst aoe in the game next to volley if that even still exists
>>586605074you will never look like this irl. people see you and laugh behind your back
>>586604991>it's not fur, it's feathers, totally different I swear>N-n-no, I NEVER switch to travel form or switch to bear form when i get ganked or overpull like a retard
>>586605026>autoMeant Aimed Shot. But yes, you can 2H just fine then.>>586605136It's not hard, but it's more than what most drooling Huntards typically do so most don't. Don't be a Huntard and play the class correctly and you'll be fine.
>>586604042Given the name and trannyfag colors, i'd guess being rutted by centaur, which seems accurate that buffs run antithetical to that...
post sexy gnomes
>>586605093I will because I want to play dwarf and hunter is gay
>>586605113All the streamers go Alliance. All the 3rd worlders go Horde. Pick your poison.
>>586604008enh just got +50% attack power wtf is he talking about
>>586605280makes no sense considering the majority of people who watch streamers are third worlders
>>586605252i only have little sluty lolis
>>586605306Resto got nerfed and Ele is beyond fucked though
>>586604972play enhance shaman
>>586605001that wasn't in the blue post. the tooltips listed percentages; this could just mean the damage was in excess of those percentages
>>586604848i never get tired of fat crits into a mage's facebut 16h of AV for weeks or months is not exactly enjoyable, noin og classic it was kinda fine cuz you had the wpvp phase first, and then wsg last weekstill im not sure i would do it again
>waaa the riptide is just 5% nerf who cares crybaby>waaa improved ghost wolf is now a couple of levels later who cares crybabyIf you say anything like this pleaseDEEPTHROAT A SHOTGUN AND PULL THE TRIGGER YOU SUBHUMAN RETAILTRANNIES WHO ONLY DO PVE
>>586605371Yes, and they all are attention-seeking retards, so they are rolling Horde to gank their favorite streamer for clips and izzat.
should I play hunter or paladin
>>586605476>crying about low lvl pvp
>>586605384oh damn. i guess i didn't read that part. feeling great as enhance tho
>>586605252Gonna roll a rogue so I can pretend my cheapshot is grabbing their dick and twisting it
>>586605371Third worlders dont suffer from troon or faggot syndrome like white gamers do, so i dont see the downside
>>586605530paladin, hunters always get rug pulled in classic. they are the charlie brown of classic
>go sleep>miss 6 threadswtf happened
Yes YES IT FEELS ME WITH SUCH JOY AFTER WATCHING YOU RETARDS CELEBRATE MAGES AOE DELETION TO SEE YOUR CLASSES NUKED FROM ORBIT. MORE MORE BLIZZARD PLEASE
>>586603471Hardcore waiting room
>>586605587We got a bunch of fun updates to classes and talent trees. And that really pissed off the min maxers
>>586605574Man I love Gnomes.
>>586605530both are overplayed classes full of shitters
>>586605587new patch notes dropped.
>>586605581lolwhatwhat third world countries arent full of trannies? its just normal for them so they dont make it a big deal
>>586605639based, tell them to go back to era
Can I equip this as a priest and get 10% attack speed on my wand?
>>586605620>rogue got gigabuffednothing personel kid
>>586605730>quiverno anon..
In the end, Paladin won.
>>586605730iirc yes, won't bother checkingit costs you a bag slot
>>586605730No, that was patched out a long time ago bud.
>>586605730wand doesnt count as ranged
>>586605639they fundamentally changed their design philosophy from "keep it in the spirit of vanilla" to "lol big numbers, don't worry about threat or mana/rage/energy". welcome to wotlk+
>>586605574Love me gnomesHate the freaks that conflate them with pedo shit, I just like thickass midgets.
Any plans for a /vg/ Horde pve guild on NA?
>>586605587Aggrend buttfucked my wife.
>>586605835>t. getting mad at something he didn't readThey literally took away the wrath shit
And in the end, what we got was Retail- (no one's surprised by this).Come play actual Classic+ on Epoch.
>>586605538Retarded nigger retailtroon, anything but enhance is fucking deadWe went from having 2 viable specs to only having Enhance
>>586601650Is this for PVP?
>>586606036rshammy is still the best healer though
>>586603664Eye of KilroggMind SootheMind Vision (PvE) Detect MagicFar Sight / Eagle Eye (PvE)Every single hunter Track ability other than Track Hidden because it increases your stealth detection slightly
>Shamans say REMOVE LAVA BURST every second every day since beta>Blizzard remove Lava Burst>NO NOT LIKE THAT LOCK DOWN THE 'CORD
>>586606036resto is still viable anon chill out. it does suck tho it's just enh or resto when ele still had a chance
>>586604919the whole of eastern europe and anything east of germany is die hard horde players idk where the fuck have you been playing
>>586606036resto is the best raid healing spec in the game by far lol
Has anyone ever done a real life race/gender/sexuality poll for Horde vs. Alliance before?
>>586606063Improved Tracking makes all the tracking skills have a use case.
>>586601062>jewmongold drones are top 4
>>586606060LOOOOOOOOL>>586606108No, not without improved ghost wolf
>>586606095Turns out people who use Discord are mentally ill retards.
If you dont roll Rogue on your pvp server this 1st month you might as well be trolling
>>586606190you can get improved ghost wolf. hell you may even consider dropping riptide just for another point somewhere else depending on if you're like AV spamming or what
>>586606184isnt he playing pve alliance
Well, I think the latest patch settles it, I'm going to have to change my night elf Rogue to a gnome... I really wanted to play a night elf, but it's just not possible, gnomes are just too good now...
>>586606026please dont, i dont want the trannies backits way better without them
>>586605835salv had to go man imagine needing 4 paladins every fucking raid its already hard enough for these dumbass pedos to keep up 3 buffs imagine if they had more all you have to do is click on your little pallypower you disgusting retads and they cant even do that i wish they had less buffs
>>586605252
>we’ve raised damage on classes across the game, and have increased the health of higher level creatures to compensate>increase damage all round>player hp still same>pvp will just be 1 shotslol
>>586603970Yes but I want to play PvP since the high population is about the only draw for forever, and I don't want to play on a fucking official retard funserver where my two classes are unplayable and just get shit on my retards playing the handicap classes like hunter and paladin that end up destroying absolutely everyone because the Devs are retards and retards stick together.Which from a cursory glance of the thread and the lack of any honest response to my question I'm starting to believe is the case, so I want to know if I'm going to bother playing wow forever.
>>586602103Riptide costs 40% less, double the CD and they removed the instant heal, so it's only a heal over time. Improved ghost wolf requires you to go deep into enhance to get now too.
>>586606270honestly the extra 10 energy is worth it.
Is Forever the first AI balanced MMO?
>>586602418>You either have a good cat, or a good bear.This isn't really true. Going monobear isn't the best idea because of opportunities to cat when there's nothing to tank in raids. And in the first place, there's not many bear talents you miss out when picking the necessary cat talents (shifting power, predatory discipline). Two points don't make a difference really. Naturalist and the balance talents don't leave much room in feral after all, so it's not like you're picking garbage like natural reaction anyway. Monocat has a few more changes.>PvP is mostly focused in resto even as feralThis isn't true either, and it's a bit of a dumb thing to even say when the game hasn't released. It wasn't even true in classic. In classic, PvP was mostly focused as FC. Outside that you could function as feral, trispec, whatever. Keyword being function. None of them were actually good except against select enemies, like mages. Hence why I dropped my druid for most pvp after p3 and focused on mage.
>>586606404No crying in the PVP casino, now outcrit your opponent.
So what rogue builds are viable now after the update? Are you still forced to go deep combat because of the shank talent or is there a ghost strike ambush pve meme build. Seal fate looks fucked over again.
>>586606380Fuck I'm going to need to enable HD models just for my gnome alts, they're too hot
Reminder Forever will end up being such a shitshow the next Classic Fresh will be like the second coming of Jesus
post that healer gnome pic in white dress cant find it
>>586606435Claude is smarter than this
>>586606404why do you think there's no "competitive" pvp, lil gulp?
>>586606435No that's Aion 2.
why did blizzard move this talent to T3? Are they expecting resto druids to be pulling threat?
>>586606576Which site has the updated trees?
>>586606651idk lol
>>586605581Brazil: full of lgbtsMexico: full of lgbtsChina: full of lgbtsAll of Europe: full of lgbtsRussia: full of lgbts on the dlLiterally every mudslime country: lgbts and goat fuckers on the dl
>>586606651https://foreverchanges.pro/talents
>>586605373Post those
>>586606685:S
>>586606763
>one more day of my gay life without wow forever
>when your class gets nerfed but it doesn't change your plan
>>586606709dont forget india has men dressed as women outside of every hotel
>>586606505Seems they're pushing a poison daggers assassination PVE spec. And you have to use bleeds too. I dunno.
>>586606435>take thousands of forum posts>take the beta combat data>HEY CHATGEEPEETEE PLEASE BALANCE OUR GAME>shit out the last patch notes>"JOB WELL DONE!"
i still don't know what race and class to play
>>586606540Nigga nobody, and I mean NOBODY, wants to play the same boring ass vanilla over and over. Classic+ is the future now and forever
>>586606404Yep just like SoD. Couldn't heal in pvp because everyone was dying in 2 or 3 seconds.
>>586606709And America? A Latino country full of blacks.Created globohomo and trans rights movements.Teaches blacks in the African jungles to be gay.
>>586606892if it was executed properly it would be. Even Turtle was more Classic + than this shiet
2 days.... In 2 days I'll be having a blast...
>>586606830Yeah and also Thailand too. Every thirdworld shithole is fag central.
people don't talk enough about the LGBs that hate the Ts in wowo fofoas a huge homo they should perish
>>586606887Tauren rouge... Heh... But in all seriousness... Orcish skelf.
What's the point of playing Warrior now?
>>586606952k, go away then Pidor.
>>586606952>Teaches blacks in the African jungles to be gay.BASED
>>586606505Ass looks good, but we need to see if Blizzard makes poisons actually usable in raids.Combat looks good too since they can Shank more often and cheaper Eviscerate will add up over time.Subtlety has potential with all the combo points it can print, but I don't think it has enough energy to out damage the other 2 specs. Should be fairly easy to pop 2 Death Marks off between bleed reapps at least?
All my race is good for is to run to the summoning mastahwhat race am i?
oof preach in hospital, EU lost it's only big streamer, how is it not having streamers on your servers?
>>586607024my favourite class got nuked so now im going to warrior in a desperate attempt to have fun. Might quit after a month
>>586606540reminder homura sex
>>586606952I never said the US wasn't poz'd. I simply pointed out that the turdworld is faggot infested.
>>586606887then do I have the wheel for you! https://wheeldecide.com/?c1=Night%20Elf%20Druid&c2=Tauren%20Druid&c3=Skyborne%20Druid%20%28Alliance%29&c4=Skyborne%20Druid%20%28Horde%29&c5=Human%20Hunter&c6=Dwarf%20Hunter&c7=Night%20Elf%20Hunter&c8=Orc%20Hunter&c9=Tauren%20Hunter&c10=Troll%20Hunter&c11=Skyborne%20Hunter%20%28Alliance%29&c12=Skyborne%20Hunter%20%28Horde%29&c13=Human%20Mage&c14=Gnome%20Mage&c15=Orc%20Mage&c16=Undead%20Mage&c17=Troll%20Mage&c18=Skyborne%20Mage%20%28Alliance%29&c19=Human%20Paladin&c20=Dwarf%20Paladin&c21=Undead%20Paladin&c22=Human%20Priest&c23=Dwarf%20Priest&c24=Night%20Elf%20Priest&c25=Gnome%20Priest&c26=Undead%20Priest&c27=Troll%20Priest&c28=Human%20Rogue&c29=Dwarf%20Rogue&c30=Night%20Elf%20Rogue&c31=Gnome%20Rogue&c32=Orc%20Rogue&c33=Troll%20Rogue&c34=Skyborne%20Rogue%20%28Horde%29&c35=Skyborne%20Rogue%20%28Alliance%29&c36=Undead%20Rogue&c37=Dwarf%20Shaman&c38=Orc%20Shaman&c39=Tauren%20Shaman&c40=Troll%20Shaman&c41=Skyborne%20Shaman%20%28Horde%29&c42=Human%20Warlock&c43=Gnome%20Warlock&c44=Orc%20Warlock&c45=Undead%20Warlock&c46=Troll%20Warlock&c47=Human%20Warrior&c48=Dwarf%20Warrior&c49=Gnome%20Warrior&c50=Night%20Elf%20Warrior&c51=Skyborne%20Warrior%20%28Alliance%29&c52=Orc%20Warrior&c53=Troll%20Warrior&c54=Undead%20Warrior&c55=Tauren%20Warrior&c56=Skyborne%20Warrior%20%28horde%29&t=What%20Race%20&Class_to_be_in_WoW_Forever%21&time=5
>>586607024To level up and wait until they eventually buff it, and then you surprise rape everyone.
>>586606435AI would actually balance the gameCurrent balance is based on aggrend having fingers too fat to melee weave as a hunter and assuming if he can't do it no one can
>>586607024being the only class that does great single target, cleave, and aoe doesn't sound good?
>>586606820launch doesnt start until like 3pm american time tomorrow, which means most of tomorrow you’ll also be without wow forever. (not including 5 hour login queus)maybe tomorrow you can start posting by the hour.
watching streamers like ziqo freaking out this morning is the best. it's such bait for retards who've made playing wow their entire identity over the past 20 years. all this shit is gonna get buffed/nerfed right before raids, classes that feel clunky will still get major talent changes, and I am still rolling on every fucking weapon my hunter can equip.
>>586607089did he eat one too many gregg's sausage roll?
>>586607190Rogue is now the single target king as of last night.
>>586607147the wheel has spoken
>>586607147im going to kill myself
Alright I can't pick, rp-pvp alliance or pvp alliance? Will we have a /wowfg/ pvp alliance guild?
would anyone give me a 7 day trial code? i'm an ffxiv detranny who wants to leave that life behind and find jesus
>>586606812rape>raperape>raperape>rape
>>586606095it worked for ret is TWW
>>586607024You get to die instantly in all forms of pvp, and aren't even strongest in any form of pve content.
>>586607254yes... and warriors still do great single target. meanwhile that is the ONLY thing rogues can do.
>>586607295PXDR-JGB8-8HF3Q-JG65-FJ95GET IT QUICK BEFORE THE BOTS STEAL IT
>>586607261kek same, rigged
>>586607224He got dick rot from cheating on his wife with his tranny employee. Ghosty wins again baybeeee!
>>586607295no pay up ff14 goon
>>586607273rp-pvp is a trap, it will be dead in like a month with hour long queues for Deadmines.
>>586607273why would you want to play with these losers lmao
>all the streamers going through the changes>they all look pale and in despair seeing SoD repeat all over againits over, this game is gonna die in a few months
https://foreverchanges.pro/talents/shaman?b=050023-053032031005112151-00305&o=jjjjjmmmkkkqpppunntttttwwxyyyyzvyEEEEECCC1111145554Is this what Enh shaman looks like now? I know they moved Imp GW out of reach for the other specs but its insanely top heavy now.
>hey guys, we decided to completely change our design philosophy one day before launchEnjoy and dont forget to say "thank you"
Retailkek status?
>>586607490jokes on them i only have free 7 days
>someone asks for a trial code>post my trial code from my special edition i refunded>they use it (clueless)>a few days later they get their trial removed and their character deleted when blizzard realizes it's an invalid code
>>586607403>all the streamers going through the changesall the streamers ragebait for content. it's fucking wow man, the only reason people watch anything related to wow streamers is drama, or because they have no friends to play the game with and are parasocial as fuck
>>586607490>not realizing this was their design philosophy the whole time and we were given an outdated beta client to drum up attention and QA their dungeons and EXP changes
>>586607496coping and malding
>>586607490they're also going to change it every single week after launch :3
>>586607395> queues in forever
>>586606190>my ranged spec should be able to travel form in combat for free!Lmao cry more
>>586607474They want ele to be a ranged/melee weave like survival hunters. Something Something class fantasy.
>zero friends to play with>still rolling resto shamanI might be retarded
So, now that Forever is confirmed a flop, are we getting WoD and Legion Classic?
everything is so raped. what's even the point?>le new content!!literally everything is just asset flips. they can't even make a model for the new race.
>>586607406SEX SEX SEX
>>586607613But boomkin can travelform for free thoughbeit
>>586607395That's what I'm worried about. But at the same time, I'm worried that pvp will be way too fucking crowded>>586607397I actually like some of the people here believe it or not
>>586601368>RPHigher quality RP>RP-PVPMore fun eventsI'd recommend just picking dwarf if pve and troll if pvp cause horde rp-pve is usually pretty dead. I'm picking pve cause I'm going to be massively behind the leveling curve because I have a job
What's stopping people to create another 'cord?
>>586607206dont forget the long maintenance that will doubtlessly be extended. and even then as you said the queues will be forever and then when you actually get to log in its gonna be packed to the brim, good luck tagging spawns.
Its actually so funny that the best thing they can do is revert every class back to its original classic versions and start over doing VERY MINIMAL changes to classes that actually need help
>>586607670this is brand new! fresh out of the indian 3D modeling pipeline!
>>586607496>the wheels don't even spin
femdead priest or nelf priest
>>586607787nothing i already made a new one for us who think shamans are going in the right direction want a link anon?
>>586607636This is literally how you'll make friends, what's retarded about it
Negative IQ niggers can't comprehend that the game will be patched repeatedly even after release, and what you see right now will change many times. Imagine rolling what feels OP right now and not what you enjoy, and then getting raped a week later, when they completely revamp everything for the 100th time because chatgipity said so.
>>586607787Didn't blizzard do EXACTLY what the shaman wanted them to do?
>>586607787Some of the other non-trooned shamans already made another class discord.
>>586607670>literally everything is just asset flips. they can't even make a model for the new race.That's what I've been saying, the skelfs have no identity. Their starting area uses recolored Nelf structures, Highborne ruins, and cata architecture while being repurposed blood elves with retail themed armor/weapons and MoP crane mounts.
>>586607834SEX
>AAA THINGS ARE CHANGING TOO MUCH you niggers would've never survived vanilla's original run
>NOOOO FOREVER IS OVER AND FINISHED THERE'S NO POINT IN PLAYING EVEN THOUGH THIS IS GOING TO BE A GAME THAT'LL BE AROUND FOR A WHILE WHERE THEY'LL DO BUFFS/NERFS LATER DOWN THE LINE ONCE THEY GET MORE DATA FROM PLAYERS PLAYING THE ACTUAL GAME INSTEAD OF SOME CRAPPY BETAI can't believe people here are acting like this is the end of the world
What professions for troll shadow priest? PvP server.
>>586607496having a third of their sub money funding Forever.
>>586607927>>586607935>damage control
>>586607857Me, I'm always the retarded part of an equation
the king has spoken
This is the most spineless AAA dev team I've ever seen. Just do whatever the most upvoted threads on the subreddit say every week.
>>586607834ayo new cunny
wtf fireblast share cd with icelance clunky ass bs
>haven't played an mmo in ages>haven't played a multiplayer game and actually chatted in ages>i might accidentally type a slur casually and get banned
>>586607787>"Community feedback gets completely ignored">Community feedback for the last month has been REMOVE LAVA BURST BUFF CHAIN LIGHTNING>Blizzard Remove Lava Burst and buff Chain Lightning>STOP IGNORING USDiscord niggas are fucking pathetic
>>586607950alchemy and engineeringthrow shit
THE DRUMS OF WAR WILL THUNDER.... FOREVER
>>586607904Basically they pitched to the board room that they can print out of bunch of money by nostalgia-baiting classic andies without spending money to develop anything new
>>586607872rolling hunter is a safe bet until the next major update which is scheduled to be in fucking springeven if they do get severely nerfed then i'd roll for the next overpowered thing lol
>>586607927>>586607935Beep boop hi Mr Bot
>>586608004It was over before it even truly begun
>>586607787Holy shit what a bunch of crybabies>>586607884Exactly. This is the ultimate proof that blizzard should just ignore all feedback and just develop their fucking game with their own data.You get a vocal minority crying about something, you give them what they want, then another vocal minority appears crying about what you just did.
>>586608004>Sōyda the crybaby shitter hates the gameI hope he quits early on so we don't have to deal him.
>>586608004just use this build
>>586606342they already made salv into a non blessing so you only needed 2 paladins maybe 3 if you really want both might and wisdom on everyone
>>586608017They'll do anything to top reddit post says as long as it doesn't imply 3D modeling because thats too exepensive plz wait at least a year
horde or ally? i’m trans btw
>>586608004>streamoid seethingalways a good sign
>>586608004in what chat was this
>>586608173horde, youll fit right in
>>586608148>salvanon...
>>586608147one day people will learn elemental weapons is a dogshit talent
>open up on a hunter as a rogue>it slowly keyboard turns and puts down a trap>you are now effectively deadit's literally uncounterable
>>586608173holy i bet youre cute and sexy aswell.
Anyone else rolling on the PvE realm? I won't be dealing with these minmaxxing sweats. Me and 4 irl friends will be playing around 1-2 hours a day and we expect to be 60 and raiding pretty soon, but we aren't sweats, just chill dads enjoying our game.
>>586608147>No improved Ghost Wolf>Not even 1 point so you can use it indoors in favor of fucking clearcasting
What's the etiquette for treasure chests in dungeons? I don't see why I should have to give up any of the loot if I'm a Dwarf. It's my racial, bitch
>>586608227yes i know it was removed today but my point is you only needed 2 not fucking 4
>>586608261not an answer to my question i’m going to play priest
>>586606260oh what a sissy
will spells still always have a chance to resist
>>586608173horde if brown, ally if white.
>>586608246Your frost reflector?
So the only people left who want to play this are streamers and redditors huh. The only good streamer (Alex) refunded. It's forover.
The gameplan is that you need to roll a bunch of alts because whatever class you picked is liable to get totally gutted from one week to the next Welcome to horizontal progression
>>586608267>Rolling on the official reddit rule set
With the recent class changes I have concluded that your chosen class is actually shit. Mine? Goated.
>>586608173Female undead holy paladin.
>>586608067For every retard begging to flounder around while nature locked, there's another ele sham player that wants lava burst in the game. People only start making threads when they're upset.
>>586606404retail is for comp pvp forever is for funny oneshot chungus
>>586607406post more like this
>>586608361or just keep playing whatever class you want because classic is an easy baby game and forever is even easier
lol, blizzshart literally copy-pasted the same dogshit ability from turdlegenuinely embarrassing to even look at, actually lost all desire to play, making sub into some cuck """support""" spec lmoa
>>586608004>i bet ud regret rerolling ur first class because of this patch.absolutely based, as to be expected from one of asmond's oldest allies, i think i will listen to your podcast furry man
YA'LL DIDN'T LISTEN
going from mage to rogue. what should i expect?
>>586608409Ele is a melee weave spec now. Keep crying bitch nigga.
>>586608361im sure it will go over well when the dad gamer finally makes it to 60 in december and then gets hit class obliterated by the very next patch because sweaty dudes made it perform 10% better than expected
i want to play a 2h weapon dps class. is arms or ret better in pve? i dont want to play enhancement shaman, they are gay
>>586608489>lol, blizzshart literally copy-pasted the same dogshit ability from turdlethey should have copied everything else from turtle instead of torturing us with their 'original ideas'
>Saw people talking about how the 31 point Survival Talent will OBVIOUSLY roll like Ignite because it's so weak and unusable garbage otherwise>Patch notes today specifically point out it doesn't rollI genuinely think it might not even be worth speccing into even as full survival to stop it breaking CC40% of 1 melee attack over 21 fucking seconds is insanely bad.
>>586608560Do I even need to say it?AWR.
>>586601287why does she present herself like that?
What's the stat priority for enhance now? STR>INT>AGI? Is there even any gear that has both STR and INT on it?
>>586608361I have the names and races for all 10 characters (9 classes, 1 bank alt) all planned out already so I can hopefully snag them all on launch day (should still be available). Will probably alternate between a few of them, for both legacy points and to maximize rested experience.I am ready no matter who ends up succeeding.
Is there a single thing the devs said prior to beta about the game that is still true? It seems they abandoned all of their original goals.
>>586608173horde, i need cute tranny healsluts
>>5866085912h fury or Ret are really good.
>>586608560how is he ALWAYS right?
>>586608528>check latest podcast>halloween episode>literally starts with soda explaining that all 3 of them are dressed as different time period slave owners and then nmp and soda quickly tries to argue with nmp that egypt's slaves weren't the bestKEK fuck you guys he's great, https://youtu.be/xWjZvvQihH8
>>586608267I still don't know. PvP is either going to be amazing or the most horrendous dogshit imaginable, there won't be anything in between. Can always just do BGs for a guaranteed fun experience so it's probably not worth the gamble.
>>586608619A warsong orc conqueror is standing over her dead husband
>>586607787theyre moving as refugees to the retailGOD shaman discord
Fem Undead paladins transmogged to bikini armor...
Those builds are remarkably bad. Most of them have 20 points in them.
>>586608621With 150% of int to AP and 30% of int to SP, it's unironically Int>StrEnh will wear the dress.
>>586608243It shows big numbers and mentions good spells therefore it's good
Still playing mage PVP
>>586608385Reddit is playing on PvP
>>586608692ret is good in pve? i thought they were only good in pvp because of the big burst from unsealed wrath
>>586608756
WoW Forever or Vanilla Fresh with a 5x XP boost?
>>586608528>>586608727Go shill your streamer daddy on plebbit. We don't like ecelebs here.
>>586603154in the beta you could get like 5 shards off a single channel
>>586608621INT. Mental Dexterity scales 150% off INT.If this can get through to the average Enh Shaman while I tank as Druid, I'd let them into my party before 40.
So, now that I've slept on the changes and had time to think about them, here's my thoughts for some final touch ups I'd like to see to Shaman. 1. Ghost Wolf moved to the third row instead of the fourth.Too many things as is to get in the 4th row and after that point you never really get any talents to spare to put into it.2. Improved Lightning Shield should be changed to 10/20/30% Lightning Shield Damage and MAYBE 1 extra charge per rank but this is optional3. I know half the Ele Shamans are rejoicing and the other half are despairing, but we do need another button to press. Or maybe a way to make Lightning Shield proc off of spell hits but that's still a passive thing. I think we just need another spell, not enough buttons to press, the rotation is gonna be kinda boring even if it is better.4. Need some spells to have their mana reduced drastically. Totamic Projection, Chain Lightning and Fire Nova will devour mana like no other.I think that's it. That would fix the class perfectly, it would feel nicer to play and best of all it wouldn't add too much more power, this is mostly convenience and sustain.
>>586608489The legendary ring from WoD basically does that except it includes party damage.
>>586608824fire pvp is fun
>>586607496WHY AREN'T THE WHEELS MOVING?
Predict the launch class population. Based on the """balance""" changes:1. Hunter2. Paladin3. Druid4. Shaman5. Warrior6. Rogue7. Warlock8. Priest9. Mage
>>586608901this is a millennial opinion though so it's obviously wrong, go play with your funkos unc you've done enough damage
>>586608736>N.. I MEAN ORCS ARE JUST SO COOL!
>>586608857Ret has been simming at or near the top dps consistently. Considering fatgrend mains ret it will always be viable even if not the top.
>be me, enhancement shaman>join group>roll need on every single piece of gear that has str and/or inthey, it's shaman gear... nothing personal...
>>586608004>shits on madseason for whining about forever>then proceeds to whine about forever himself???
>like wpvp, bg, and duels>arena immediately puts me to sleepWhat is this phenomenon and how can we make sure blizz doesnt add it?
>>586609034Rogues higher and warlocks lower
female undead paladinfemale nightelf priestwe be the dark niggas
>>586609034>warrior>paladin>rogue>hunter>mage>priest>druid>shaman>warlock
>>586608596I don't know what it does but retail trinkets have retarded wording like that when they mean that much damage every second for the duration.
wolfsbane at lvl 20 does as much damage as the lvl 30 warrior axe lma
>>586606435"Balanced"
>>586609083he reacted to that before the patch though, now he saw everyones damage was increased with no stamina buffs to player so pvp is shit now
these streamers can get fucked who gives a shit about pvp kek
>>586609037>zoomers continuously falling for the parasocial memeLiterally the dumbest generation lmao
>>586608729i like how this came out 19 hours ago and its already entirely outdated and completely irrelevant to the current state
>>586609034Rogues higher for like 2 weeks then back to the bottom once fotm shitters realize they're playing a class that dies when something sneezes in its general direction.
>>586608147>no ghost>not maxing the INT talentYou don't need the resto mindfulness cope with enhancement retard.With INT gear and improved stormstrike you should never oom unless you HARD SPAM nonsense buttons
>>586608992>gets solo’d by a hunters pet while he jacks off tabbed out.
>>586609206No generation can ever be dumber than The Goyest Generation or Boomers.
>>586609235Everyone will die in 2 seconds so having cheap shot kidney shot is like being invincible in 1v1
>Releases a video shitting on Forever>2 days later Blizzard proves him right
>>586609235i'm already used to that coming from a mage though
>>586609238if you are gonna post porn, atleast post something that looks good, not some shit from ancient times
>>586609238humanboi here, what the fuck can we do about this?
>>586609296its like poetryit rhymes
>>586609126Nah it specifically says "40% of the damage done over 21 seconds" which means if you hit a Mongoose Bite for 100 damage, it will deal 40 damage over 21 seconds.
>>586609206>zoomers fall for parasocial meme>suddenly they all hate jews>also way more aware of everything being shit an collapsing>meanwhile millennials are still seething with their funkos because someone was mean about star wars after refusing to address anything and happily retreating when they were told what they can and can't say
>>586609206>zoomer are dumber than meI already knew that by visiting 4chan and interacting with them
>>586609296Hi madseason sorry you didn't get that rxp sponsorship but you can still churn out some slop videos for those youtube bucks only 1 day left! make that money goy
>>586609296Prove him right about what?
>>586607406Reminds me of
>introducing lava burst>BNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WTFFFFFFFFF BLIZZARD LAVA BURST IS NOT LIKE CLASSIC IT DOESN'T FIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!>ok we will remove lava burst>WTF???????????????? I WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO PLAY SOMETHING DIFFERENT LIKE LAVA BURST FUCK YOU BLIZZARD!!!!!!!!!!
>>586609261>frost nova pet, blink, nuke huntard
Kick down, sparky
>>586607406FUUUUUUCK IM PVMPING
>>586607406>>586609517why are there so many closet pedos itt
>>586609474uhhhhhhhhh retail o algo
>>586609517i'm a thirsty little flower..
>>586609517funny because this anya set is what i requested from nelfie and he made it
>>586607406>>586609517
remember to subscribe and become a madseasonshow member to watch his exclusive videos on yt
>>586608735>I still don't know. PvP is either going to be amazing orpvp has never been amazing in wow
>>586609323Take a seat in the corner and enjoy the show
white codes classes:paladinpriestshamanwarriorbrown coded classes:roguewarlockmagetrans coded classes:hunterdruid
>>586609574>why are there so many normal healthy males ittidk it's weird i thought there'd be more troons
>People ITT malding over SNCA class changes (oh no, your metagoonermaxxxing class is only playable but not top-tier for speedruns, oh the humanity!!1!1)Just shut the fuck up, who even cares? The classess will be rebalanced every month and new broken items will be added every patch. The real retoilets are those who want to chase meta with flavor of the month classes instead of rolling with their main because of vibes or enjoying the class. The only real problem with "forever" is that its not gonna last - expansions exist for a reason. Just treat it as Anniversary realms with extra fluff thrown in and have fun.
>>586607927I'm from vanilla thoughbeit?It took me 270 irl days to reach max level because I shared an account with my brother and was in middle school
norf blood pressure rise too much reading patch notes
>https://www.wowhead.com/forever/legacy-calculatorhow're you investing your legacy talent points bros? what class? what's your vision?
>>586609619I miss nelfie queen so muchDo you have more of her as a loli?
>>586607406>>586607681>>586609517holy shit some of you need the stretchy rack
>>586607406>>586609517explain without moralfagging whats wrong about masturbating to these pictures
>>586609716so melee hunter is trans coded white girl?
>>586609718I'm bothcuriously not an autopedo tho
>>586609517
Why aren't Warlock played when they are powerful and easy to play? (their pet system being simpler than Shaman)
>>586609371>zoomers think they're the first generation to be antisemitic I bet you follow the gay catboy too lmao
>>586609716>shaman>white
>>586609238giwtwm
>>586609536The WoW forever stuff has reminded me just how much worse Reddit is than any other online community.People here joke about doom titans and shit but jesus christ they are never happy it's always some complaint pushed to the top.
What do I do for 10 hours today and 10 hours tomorrow?
>>586609543> nukeScatter shot, ice trap, take a moment to /lol at your life. But rather than give your dumb ass the dignity of a proper death, run away so my pet can finish soloing you.
>>586609851>simpler than shamanidk about that one champ
why THE FUCK did they do this
>>586607147Huh...
please someone tell me what to stack as a holy paladinall in on int or spirit or what?or do i just rip ret through questing and buy some 'of healing' gear to heal dungeons for ez dungeon placementi wanna main the healing spec in the end
Meme instance content not rewarding all players equally is the stupidest thing WoW does. Evenly distributed upgrade tokens are a no brainer.
>>586609209at least there's funny slave talk
>>586609851i think the thought of maintaining dots and a pet scares people
>>586609245>Magma totem has higher DPS but shorter duration than searing>Fire nova doesn't share CD with a chesper spell you you should keep It on CD at all timesEnhance is going to be very mana hungry
>>586610006me lying below the bear drinking up his leakage
>>586609371>>also way more aware of everything being shit an collapsing>zoomer>being aware of anything going onlooooooljust continue to eat up what your living propaganda tool is feeding you
>>586609940They SLIGHTLY buffed ele so that means you have to give up your mobility!
I come seeking insight. given the rogue changes, what is the strongest opener spec? I could be wrong but just at a glance it seems like cold blood one shots may be off the table now?
>>586609931fuck I meant hunter sorry my brain decided to be stupid kek
>>586609949>spiritI mean, you'll get mostly mp5 on plate gear no? Spirit isnt a dead stat but its just int and mp5.
>>586609913>iceblocks, nova pet again, sheeps you
>>586610009its funny for 10 seconds then they become uncomfortable with the joke and cringe
>>586609752>thoughbeityou aren't fooling anyone, shartroon
Is lone wolf hunter viable? I consider leveling no pet as it as well.
>>586609371>>also way more aware of everything being shit an collapsingzoomers frontal lobe finally develops and they suddenly think they are the only ones who are aware of the world around them
>>586609789
>>586608990s-shut up transphobe turtle did that
>>586610163>leveling without a petNo that's retarded. Its for dungeons with a tank or to sniper shot people in pvp.
>>586610140i dunno. never played classic before. only retail sloppasry
>>586609238me under the tauren on the right
>>586607995Well you're a homestuck poster
>>586610163your pet keeps the distance and does good damage. you could do lone wolf but it would be a dramatically worse leveling experience
Is the Succubus model sexy?
>>586610170
>>586609760what happened? Is he going to die?
>>586610142oh fuck i wont have ice block.. >invis pot, run awaythere.. eat shit
>reddit tells me the Shaman changes are le poggers and Ele is saved>go to bed>wake up>reddit is now saying Shaman was ruined and Ele is le fin GUYS SOMEBODY PLEASE TELL ME WHAT TO LE THINK
>>586610281Don't come to EU PvP tomorrow
>>586609851Mage covers the spellcaster archtype better and dots+pet management isn't that hot
>>586610281whats wrong with Homestuck?
>>586610257>>586610298Who cares about what's good. I have raid min maxed the game before and I plan on doing a challenge or something this time. But is it comparable dps wise late game to running a pet?
>>586609858>>586610060>>586610165france burning is on YOUR conscience
>>586610352resto is great. enh is great. ele is even more boring now with no lava burst
Ayo what up my nigs just stopping by with a quick question. Is there a way to pre-configure my UI at all? Like either through the WoW Classic or Retail clients, would they be compatible? I take so fucking long to set it up how I like it every time I do a fresh start like this
>>586608243>>586608796Is elemental weapons really that bad?
>>586609370This does damage per second. It doesn't matter what it says.
>>586610329gall bladder stones. need surgery remove them, gonna take month to recover.
>>586610163>best part of hunter/lock is the pet>every pet hater keeps wanting to play hunter or lock
>>586609940They were worried elemental players might experience less suffering after the buffs, so they had to take this away to compensate
is there an actual showcase or visualization of what "3 level stealth detection" actually looks like? How impactful is that really?
>>586610352elemental sucks but at least they removed lava burst. enhancement is gigabuffed. resto is still strong.
>>586610329not yet but soon. once it starts it's not too long.
>>586610447france deserves to burn so im okay with that
>>586609517You can get close to that with a fem gobbo playing Hellcaller Warlock
>>586610329Is this from sitting all day?
What are you guys doing until launch?
>>586609851Why do you say its easy to play? Relative to other classes, there is a lot of buttons to press and a lot of things to manage to play optimally.
>>586610452READ NIGGA, READ
>>586610510work work
>>586610395Very autistic fanbase
>>586610432>But is it comparable dps wise late game to running a pet?nobody knows big dawg the game ain't even out yet
>>586610507yeawear compression socks or walk around every hour
>>586610447the french do this constantlyalso the ones burning shit are leftoids
>>586610510buying shit so I don't have to leave the house for a week
>>586610510Will clean up the entire apartment tomorrow fr fr
>>586610510Being a wagie.
>>586610329>thrombosisYeah that guys a goner. It's just going to keep coming back until it nails him in the lungs or brain.
>>58661054240% increase attack power for windfury seems good though.
>>586610569we are in a very autistic website
>WoW Forever releases the same day foodstamps go outcoincidence? I think not
>>586610574gonna be really neat to see if pets are shit or not considering they scale now
>>586610542explain why it's bad and what to take instead
>>586610473yeah, lone wolf was a massive mistake
>>586610668this was true 10+ years ago
>>586610432>who cares about what's good>I'll just gimp myself and force myself to kite every mob for no reason when I could just call my pet outOkay have fun
>>586610510it took me until 10 minutes ago to narrow down my character to two definite choicesnow I am going to relax and tomorrow I will go to the movies
I still don't know what class or faction I'll main or even what ruleset. I played warrior back in the day but I was never good at tanking at all.
>>586610681well beta had pets doing about 30% of DPS so by the numbers it looks like lone wolf would be worse unless in some niche boss scenario where your pet is very likely to die
>>586610510about to play this bad boy
>>586610193GUHHHHH
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE CLASS CHANGES I FINNA TROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON
>>586610329>tips outIs that some kind of homosex dog whistle?
People panicking about what faction and ruleset to play are so funny considering most of them won't even have a choice because of faction lockout
>>586610810thats great i hated running lone wolf in sod
I can't fight by myself, Warluck or Hounter?
>>586610510my plan is to sleep, wake up, goon doing rp with ai, do some dailies in my slop game, goon doing rp with ai, play some world of horror, then sleep
>wake up>lava burst removed from gameEle shamans LMAO
>30 energy hemo>20 energy evis>30 energy garrote>-20 energy shank giving 2 cpIs this fair?
>>586610910warlockavoid hunter and paladin
>>586602535It barely competes with Shadow Bolt still. Mana-wise is also fucked if you can't get a full drain off. It'll depend on how much movement there's in the fights.
>>586610329His beta tournament got exposed as a scam so he's faking an injury for sympathy.
>>586610910Warlock, there are going to be a lot of Hunters and Warlocks are always wanted for summons, healthstones and soulstones.
>reddit rogues complain about no buttons to press>blizzard listens and gives mobs more hp so they dont die too fast when rogues press their new buttons>be me>priest>now it takes 30 seconds to wand down mob instead of 20 secondsI will not heal rogues. They deserve to die.
>>586607636sex with nepeta and i still love equius too, tauren shaman for my main at launch btw
>>586610986in 2019?
>the old friend group coming together to play ForeverHell yeah, I'm so happy bros
>>586604781>*steals the soul of a robot*Nothing personnel, Asimov.
>>586610510Bloodborne pc port
Probably not the best place to go looking, but would anyone like to level/play together? I've yet to resub yet so I can play on either NA or EU.I usually play Horde but was planning on starting with an Ally Paladin since the Dwarf racials look really great on top of the fact I'm sure there'll be a horde of undead Paladins. Is <Olympus> really that much of an issue or are people blowing how annoying they supposedly are out of proportion? That'd give me another reason to roll on EU instead.>>586610510Sleeping probably. I probably won't even attempt to play until a few hours after launch, I expect the servers to be completely fucked/queued.
>>586610510shopping for the next two weeks
I hate the hunter pet system it’s way too hard to manage so I’m going warlock every time I have tried hunter previously I end up going lone wolf as I level because I just can’t fucking deal with these pets
>every shaman spec is a 1 button spec
>>586603436obviously hasnt been updated with the new rogue rotation
Ghost Wolf being moved to row four really fucks everything up, why the hell did they do it? It's competing with way more important shit now.
>>586611158>hunter pets>hard to manage Xis your macros......
>>586610507its from prolonged sitting, but more specifically, its from prolonged sitting in a comfy, (((ergonomic))) chair.never use a cushioned chair with any kind of back support, its the cause of all your troubles. just get a basic ikea office chair and you will never get back problems
>>586610329>ThrombosisGuys on borrowed time. Most people last about 2 years after first diagnosis, some longer but that's really rare.Best of luck to this guy whoever he is, he's going to be partaking in lottery every time he sits down or lays down for sleep and the main price is permadeath.
>>586610510eating, sleeping, having tons of loli cosplay sex with my femboy irl.
>>586610432Yes, lone wolf MM is better than having a pet.
>>586611252I’m talking about them running away and having to train them
>>586610020Fire nova is shit on single targetTotally unecessary
>>586610329Why are WoW content creators dropping like flies?
>>586611302why are they fucking around with lava burst and sniper shot when they should be fixing this?
>>586611302What if he just games and sleeps standing up?
Will WoWF be a good game to find a gf in or should I just stick to FFXIV for meeting women? Kind of feel like this game is too ugly for the female audience but idk
>>586611158admittedly finding room for all the hotkeys to utilise pets correctly is a bitch iirc, but its not 'hard'.
warlock pet got GIGA nerfd
So with this whole threat adjustment and salvation removal Shaman tanking is giga out the fucking window now?
holy shit bros petless warlock got GIGA buffed
>>586610451https://uiforever.com/app?flavor=forever
>>586611396Hold the fuck up. You can assign your own talents and buy skills, but doing it for your pet is too complicated? Hitting ONE button to feed your pet is too difficult????
>>586611046>blizzard listens and gives mobs more hpim retarded and didnt play the beta when did thisbhappen?
>>586611573unless rockbiter got a threat buff, yeah its out.
>>586611546Warlock pets were already hot garbage, what the fuck is Blizzard doing
Someone tell me when Xaryu weighs in on the new changes. I don't need to have my own opinions, Xaryu will tell me what to make of the patch.
>>586611302Grandma had it and lived for 20+ years after the diagnosis. It came back once but the clot was removed again Yeah it's bad but it's not a death sentence, you do have to watch the fuck out and take blood thinners religiously
I miss weapon racialsI think every race should have elements weaknesses and resistances too
how the fuck r rogues allowed to sap 2 targets wtf
>>586611620I'm really fucking mad about this, Paladins get to be real tanks and shamans don't because ???????Because retail did it? Is that the reasoning?
>>586611546that change was already in the game retardit's a nothingburger
>mfw face when my resto/balance main is in a good spot
>>586611607yoooooooo
>>586611643>werein beta they could tank everythingthey are now deader than dead
>>586610510UN2030 survival rp with Emma Myers AI.
>>586611643>warlock was hot garbage>best spec was demookay anon wahtever you say
>>586611714Retail doesnt have shaman tanks either lmao. that was a SoD only thing.
>>586611727>that change was already in the game retardbeta warlocks blue pill was tanking dungeon bosses
>>586604008theres a reason shaman was the pink class in nilla
Revert EVERY SINGLE CLASS BACK TO THEIR CLASSIC VERSION AND START OVER. THIS IS TRASH
>>586611610You have to run around the world finding and training animals to get the right stuff or something and my pets are never happy even when being fed so fuck itIt’s fucking annoying and I can’t fucking stand it. It’s insane people tolerate that or the rogue lockpock grind of hell but somehow soul stones are just too much for people. Fuckin retards
>>586611768That's what I said.In Vanilla shamans and paladins were both pseudo tanks, only one of them progressed to being a real tank though.
Paladin mainHunter altWe finna
>>586605083>>586606131Americans are not aware of the true HORDE of undesirable retards that play horde here.
>>586610986this was from 2019 classic release, when he elected himself as the supreme leader of classic wow and almost gave himself a heart attack from shouting commands at everyone while leveling
>>586610451You can use retail to set up a UI, then export it and paste in the command in Forever. Just be aware certain Forever UI mods can absolutely maim the import.
>>586611735Voidwalker couldn't hold aggro if its life depended on it
shaman tanking is le soul o algo because my favorite youtuber said so
>>586611617Just happened with todays patch notes>So over the last two weeks, we’ve raised damage on classes across the game, and have increased the health of higher level creatures to compensate.
>>586610329Take a walk, Anon.
>>586611796Nigga that change was in the beta for 2 weeks, it was just undocumented. Now it's on actual patch notesWarlock pets are fine, they got as much hp as the caster instead of 2-3x
>>586611927beta VWs felt like they were doing way better than vanilla VW
>>586611735Another retard who has no clue what he's talking about. Instead of a felhunter having 4000 hp at level 30 it now has 2000. We've already seen and played the change on beta.
I heard rumours that some anons in this very general look exactly like pic related is that true? If yes what kind of wedding ring do you want?
>>586611932so early game is giga easy but in later levels its going to suck if you are not in full rares
>>586611820sorry furcuck, won't happen.
>>586610329take a daily aspirin anons..
rogues sapping 2 targets is completely broken
>>586612076I know one anon who looks exactly like this
what are the implications for wow forever?
>resto and ele literally can't talk imp ghost wolf now>enhancement can't budget for itSomeone on the dev team genuinely thought this was a good change.
>>586612083Just make friends with a healer anon, dungeons are free~
>>586612057>We've already seen and played the change on beta.not the most recent changes retard
>>586612163why is it bad? its a utility talent for leveling and pvp, if you want it you should need to sacrifice like everybody else does
>>586612163bait
>>586612142NAMEEEEEE
>>586610281How else am I supposed to warn people they're talking to an autistic sperg?>>586611048I was debating on rolling a cow but I'll probably end up rolling female troll
>>586612269i think its anon something
>>586609760Cant stand that smug fat fuck. Everyone that plays Wow has their own take on what and how, but this dumb bong is so full of himself and actually believes he's THE expert on gaming.
>>586612083Black Wyrmkin Elite (Lvl 54): 10,374 HP (vs. 5,319 in Era, ~+95%)i think this was from the beta
>>586612230What does Ret sacrifice to pick up PoJ?
>>586610153they're not uncomfortable bwo they just know not to push it or youtube goes on their ass, like they don't sit there calling each other slurs off stream
>>586611278this but also add deadlifting once at week
>>586612269Belle Delphine
Its out https://x.com/BethesdaStudios/status/2117635313921077514
>>586612156Saberon has wares if you have coin
>>586612269Joey
>>586612321>>586612394
I've sacrificed everything. What have you given?
>>586612396Skyrim came out 15 years ago
>>586609760Used to like this guy. Has become GIGA zoomer brained over last few years, even more unga bunga 0 attention span than he ever was.
>>586612269Anna Nymosse
>>586611505Neither of those are good for finding women since they started catering to and protecting gay rapists.
>>586612369take your pick
>>586612396this just deflated my forever hype lmao, think I'll just wait for this!
>>586612596>VindicationIt doesn't give you AP anymore anon.
>>586612596>vindicationLmaolol even
New>>586612710>>586612710>>586612710
Which instance are you looking forward to running? For me, its sunken temple
>>586612335Honestly most of the playerbase is unsalvageable crybabies who want their class/race to be the best and it’s not much deeper than that.
>>586612396Wow they managed to name it, only 10 years left until release
>>586612163I HATE HAVING CHOICES THAT MATTER THE TALENT TREES SHOULD BE CUT AND DRIED IF I WANT A PVE BUILD IT PICKS THE GOOD TALENTS AND NOT THE BAD ONES IF I MISS OUT ON SOMETHING THE TALENTS ARE BAD
>>586612686>>586612702??
>>586612917this unironically
>>586613034>skipping Tidal FocusHUH?!
>>586612728I love me a good SM armory; guess which class I'm playingI wanna try the new dungeons, going in blind on them
>>586613034What the fuck does that have to do with the ret paladin talent vindication you fucking trogg
>>586613034>Not taking threat reduction for PvE and the ability to parry for PvPFeel free to stop posting at any time.
>>586612396Reeks of AI
>>586613129>>586613172>>586613308This is the spec that those "sims" you are so invested in is using btw lol
Resto shaman or priest? Dwarf of course
how strong is the health to mana skill for undead priests? seems like a super tap on a 10 min cd basically making it a once per fight thing?
>>586613657ShamanDwarves look terrible in cloth
>>586612317kanaya is great too>I was debating on rolling a cow but I'll probably end up rolling female trolli'd go female troll if their feet weren't always out and so weird looking, so i'd rather be a cow
>>586601193>final patch notes>final
>>586614186not true
>>586614186>Dwarves look terrible in armorFTFY
>>586608561to suck even harder than you do on mage
>>586608267what does raiding pretty soon mean? we'll all be raiding pretty soon. do you mean pretty soon after the raids launch cause you're all dads that only play 1-2 hours a night and won't be 60 when they release?fucking gay dads, their wives boyfriends, and streamers can just fuck off already constantly complaining and dooming about a fucking gay blizzard game in 2026. If I have fun I'll play the game, if its gay I'll quit and go back to punching myself in the dick.
>>586609265>dumber than The Goyest Generation or Boomersgen x losers and their gen z faggot kids siding with them are the ones propping up this entire faggot ass clown world
>>586608267retard
>>586621632i was pretty decent at mage but yeah, i do expect to be worse at a class i've never played before
