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Upcoming /wowfg/ NA Guilds
<Clover Club> RP-PvP Alliance | https://discord.gg/Zn2uVkkpbc
<Remigration> PvP Horde | https://discord.gg/K9QgDCzxf
<Fourchan Guild> PvP Alliance | Discordless

>Upcoming /wowfg/ EU Guilds
<Wrench> PvE Horde | https://discord.gg/mVP8FmXp5
<Fourchan Guild> PvP Alliance | Discordless
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Dads, NO!
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Reminder
Night Elf Shaman CONFIRMED
Tauren Mage CONFIRMED.
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NEED
SATYR
GF
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just got back from voting goys how we feelin
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will CL be one shotting people now bros or no...
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>>586647470
I wonder if they're just going to sneak them in on launch
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>those retards who level a dorf shaman instead of waiting for night elf
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Whenever OGRE isn't on screen, people should be asking: Where OGRE?
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Shortstacks, bambablam
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I'm gonna be a skelf druid on Alliance who loves Elune and her implied big naturals.
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>>586647395
Not only is it lower damage than vanilla, you don't have ele mastery for the 100% crit
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>>586647441
why are these fathers wasting their time playing video games when they could be sitting on the couch watching a show their wives picked while they scroll their phones?
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My wife's boyfriend is letting me borrow his work pc to play WoW on launch

I'm so hecking excited
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do rogues level as sub now? i feel like combat is still best
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>>586647617
thats sick bro, you going human or nelf?
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>>586644897
you heard it here first folks:
WoW Forever = Retail Minus
enjoy piggies!!!
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female human mage

pvp

solo
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>Get tier piece
>Now have to tardwrangle 20+ other people to help me out just to get one piece of gear despite them most likely not doing so since they get nothing from it
Epic
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HUGE update
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>>586647441
DADDY NO
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>>586647585
What's the problem with dwarves?
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>>586647629
Combat is gay
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>kills you in a global
nothin personnel, kid!
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tfw no hardcore on launch
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>>586647390
I disagree, femdwarves casting is the best and their melee is pretty good as well. If only they didn't run like they had a large metal buttplug in their arse.
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Wrench Discord Link is dead
Here's a new one thats working: https://discord.gg/5STmdAD8Cn
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>>586647723
LIVE IN PEACE NATE HIGGER
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unironically vulpera when?
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>We're getting night elf shaman before night elf paladin
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>>586647752
your moms gay
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>>586647585
I can't wait to execute them, some of the most fun is killing a bunch of dwarves just because of how they die. I do give human a leg up due to their death throes though.
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what consumable r u bringing to forever launch raid?
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>>586647343
>Tauren Mages and Night Elf Shamans randomly announced ONE DAY before launch
>WoW Forever: Console Edition leaked one day before launch
What the fuck is going on? What's going to happen tomorrow?
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><Clover Club> RP-PvP Alliance | https://discord.gg/Zn2uVkkpbc
broken link
><Remigration> PvP Horde | https://discord.gg/K9QgDCzxf
broken link
><Fourchan Guild> PvP Alliance | Discordless
not a real guild
><Wrench> PvE Horde | https://discord.gg/mVP8FmXp5
broken link
><FUN HAVERS> PvE Alliance | https://discord.gg/XBd4VWnquc
missing
>previous thread >>586625094
missing
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this is your feral wpvp build, no need to thank me
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>>586647589
Hell yeah brother
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>>586647737
They aren’t cute elves, ironforge is the best city though
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>>586647629
large brained individuals (so nobody here except me) know that Ambush is unironically the fastest way to level
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profession check
warrior smith mine
paladin ??? mining
hunter lw skin
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>>586647441
>I only have ONE free hour of time each week to play
>The devs need to cater to ME
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>>586647343
hello OP. could you include a new discord link for Remigration? it is
>https://discord.gg/MzDePdFUa9
>easy copy
<Clover Club> RP-PvP Alliance | https://discord.gg/Zn2uVkkpbc
<Remigration> PvP Horde | https://discord.gg/MzDePdFUa9
<Fourchan Guild> PvP Alliance | Discordless

>Upcoming /wowfg/ EU Guilds
<Wrench> PvE Horde | https://discord.gg/mVP8FmXp5
<Fourchan Guild> PvP Alliance | Discordless
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>>586647589
>Where OGRE?

In Latvia
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>>586647629
ambush > ghostly strike > ambush might just delete most mobs
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>Mounts!
>Mogs!
>Cheevos!
Yeah, you're totally not playing retail, anon
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>>586647547
this
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>>586647953
just think it will take you a month to catch what i did in one day kek
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>>586647343
You can remove the fun havers from the op but you cant remove the fun from the fun havers

Join <FUN HAVERS> for launch
NA PVE

>no cliques
>only rule is you must have fun
>will raid with whatever we got, no sweaty raid comps
>ms>os loot
>weekend morning raids, more to come later
>socials always welcome

https://discord.gg/XBd4VWnquc
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>>586647957
>hello OP
make the thread yourself retard
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>>586647930
druid herb alch
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Uhhh, have you got games on your phone?
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>>586647441
I don't get it, do dads not just fuck their wives with their limited amount of time? Why not? Are they gay as fuck or something?
If I had 40 minutes to spare each day because of my lifestyle choices, they wouldn't be getting spent on WoW, they'd be spent on mating pressing the wife and cumming inside of her. If she pops out another kid then so be it, she's getting fucked though every moment of time that I have to spare.
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>>586647992
You scared retail boy?
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>>586647930
>cloth wearer: Tailoring
>leather wearer: Leatherworking
>mail/plate wearer: Blacksmithing
>every class: Engineering as the second profession (because it's the only one that offers something unique)
It's that simple, every class is unfortunately the same.
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every class but rogue is dead
everyone rolling rogue tomorrow cause they killed every other spec in the game
world of roguecraft is back
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>I'm going mining/engineer
>shill alchemy and enchanting to my friends
>after some deliberation my three friends are going mining/engineer, mining/engineer, and mining/engineer
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i have 2 kids and 10 jobs, what class is right for me
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>>586648080
>married
>having sex
Cool fantasy world you got there, bud
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>>586648074
unghh, PLEASE be male
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>torn between Shaman and Pally for raid healing and BG damage/utility
>finally decide to go Pally so I can heal raids and throw out the shocker in PvP
>now Enh Shaman is fucking nutty
WHAT DO I MAIN GOD DAMNIT
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>>586648143
mail is actually leatherworking you fucking nonce
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>>586648080
dead bedrooms are extremely common, especially once you have kids
sex is for the honeymoon phase when everything is new and exciting
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>>586648080
Past a certain age a man stops having sex with his wife, you wouln't get it
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is it racist if I say zug zug to orcs as an undead
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>>586647961
I wonder if they refer to themselves as ogres.
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>>586647910
>WPvP
>level 60
????
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>people so focused on the NE shaman they missed the Tauren priest in the launch video
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Sex with Sex Elves!
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>>586648237
I wouldn't know because I don't play Shaman or Hunter (certified retard classes).
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>alliance pve
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>>586648080
what happens when your wife isn't in the mood and asks you to stay off your pc, wash the dishes, and entertain the kids so she can finally have some time to relax nut to bbc porn while shes in the bathtub.
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>>586648315
Screenshot? I only saw tauren mage
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>>586596387
>even /wowg/ is making fun of the shaman meltdown
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>>586648315
We already knew they were adding Tauren Priest, they literally have a Sunwalker NPC giving you crack dust as a quest.
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>>586648334
but they are not real
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>>586648304
yes
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>>586648080
If only this were true.
It gets boring and then men want a reason to get away from the wife because she won't stop arguing about dumb shit all the time which is why you see guys going out to fish and their smiles returning.
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>>586648315
chances are they slipped those in to test the waters and see how hard people would freak out at them
they'll likely do the same with shop mounts and the like later on
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So why are the shamnies triggered again? Is it because unlike druid they can no longer roll on str/agi and screw war/pld out of gear? I don't even think that's a nerf...
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>>586647897
>every race can do everything!!!
>homogenization, yaaayyy!!! Everything is the same and equal and balanced :D!!!
>n-no it's still Classic
Oh no... Bros it's already starting..
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they should add layer swapping like maplestory channels
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Unfortunately I am going to die prior to release
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>mage
>priest
>rogue
why is gnome the best race for all of these
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ready to terrorize some horde starting tomorrow
do not go to ashenvale rp-pvp
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>>586647710
tranny moment
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>in combat garrote with ghostly strike
>free energy and combo points with shank
>improved rupture and garrote durations
>increased rupture and garrote damage with hemo
>death mark synergizes with both rupture and garrote
>also can maintain improved slice and dice
>also has enough talent points for 3/3 precision

160 IQ giga-Aryan gamer here btw
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>>586648070
>>586648594
BROTHER BLUE BOARD
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tauren mages incoming
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>>586648487
Just a few elemental larpers REALLY pissy over the idea lava burst was the most impressive thing in the game despite the fact its damage was always undertuned because it would always cirt, but didn't have that crit in forever.
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>>586648594
uhh mods?
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>>586648646
Now make combat pve
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>tauren priest and mage
>nelf shaman
So lame…
Guess nothing matters anymore
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>>586648315
Tauren priest is like the most obvious shit imaginable. The only reason they didn't get priest in vanilla is because it isn't nature focused I'm certain.
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>>586648594
what happened, a cat got you?
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Which classes can be a tank?
Can I be a tank as a Warrior or Hunter or Shaman
Not sure which class I'll pick yet
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Alex knows wow forever is retail trash and you can't handle that fact
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You now remember the Night Elf Demon Hunter on the vanilla game case
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Why is everyone so obsessed with "le journey" when Forever makes that less relevant than every other version of wow before it?

Seems to me like a glaring flaw in the design of the game that people are going to realize once they hit 60 and end up sitting in cities after doing their weekly raid / dungeons with no mechanics.
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What exactly is the appeal? Almost exactly the same rotations as Vanilla....almost exactly the same dungeons and zones...
I just don't think I can do it anymore. I don't want to play through Vanilla for the 20th time.
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>>586648636
doubt will you reach that level tomorrow
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>>586648487
Ele is still shit but also now has no identity at all. At this point I'd rather they just restore it to vanilla. At least then it was fun while being bad.

Resto also got a nerf that's being completely overblown. Riptide was insanely overturned.
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>>586648786
Warrior, Paladin, Druid. They might add Shaman tank later but who the fuck knows.
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>>586648594
it already looks infected...
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>>586648774
>obvious
if you say so
The sun is not the light
Stretching class f
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>>586648786
only warrior for anything serious, but hunter pets and enhancement shamans can definitely pull it off with some effort
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Jahy status?
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holy shit
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>>586648826
Oh no my lobster is too buttery my penis too juicy.
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>>586648786
Warrior, druid, paladin.
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>>586648851
ARTHAS NO!
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>>586647441
>Mfw I'm a dad
>Mfw I'm still going to be logging on with the boys tomorrow
Skill issue honestly
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>>586648826
I'm really sorry to hear that. This is deeply saddening, but we wish you well on your retail journey.
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>>586648594
>he didn't boughted first aid training
anon..
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>>586648851
Arthas YES!
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Why didn't they just make classic + like everyone wanted
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Mage, Lock or Rogue for my undead alt?
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>>586648963
>>586648963
I will play as a warrior then, thank you
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>>586648661
>Troll mage in the video using that same armor set up with the same offhand at 9:50
huh.
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>Horde won in guild vote
it's so fucking over
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>>586647846
Nelf shaman makes sense. Sentinals were closer to enh chamans than surv hunters without a pet.
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>>586648930
wat
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Good raid everyone, real good progress.

*shaman has logged off
*rogue has logged off
*warrior has logged off

I know its Monday tomorrow and everyone has work, but who wants to come help those guildys get their tier token gear.

*Everyone but the tier tokens log off
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>>586649105
Warrior's probably the best tank anyway. Can't really go wrong with it.
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>foreverroar addon is archived

COME OOOOOOOON NOOOOO
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yep, i'm blue, whatcha gonna do about it?
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Why did people who were #nochanges 7 years ago roll over and let them force megaservers on us without a fight
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How awful is Prot Paladin gearing gonna be?
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>blizz adds a quest helper
>but it doesn't show available quests so you're still shit out of luck if you wanna know which quests you missed when getting rep at 60
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>>586649146
I think he has an oral fixation, it's a medical condition so be nice.
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Warrior or Paladin Tank?
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>>586649165
>casual guild, casual problems
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ALEXENSUAL RUNS THIS GENERAL
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>>586649129
>Nelf shaman makes sense. Sentinals were closer to enh chamans than surv hunters without a pet.
Huh...
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This is your raid leader's girlfriend. She's raiding as an arcane mage and does less DPS than the spriest. Say something nice about her.
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>>586649245
How come blue elves didn't get the classic models when they're just recolored belves?
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>>586648834
>Resto also got a nerf that's being completely overblown. Riptide was insanely overturned.
Number tuning is objectively irrelevant, problem is that they "nerfed" it into being a 12s CD you cast on nobody but the tank. Not overblown at all, its possibly one of the most retarded things they've done
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>>586649252
cuz pve niggas roll on realms called shit like "ol blanchy" and then wonder why their realm is dead in two weeks
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>>586648080
1hr sex sessions every day gets old just like everything else. there are many days when i would prefer to play vidya instead of nutting inside my wife because i’m still sore and fatigued from yesterday’s session. she’s on bc so it’s up to her when we have kids.

i play healer btw. always thought it was funny when people who get autism bux call me a healsissy
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>>586649293
bear will be better than either
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He had better days
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Is warrior going to be the best AoE farming class now? Seems like it might be the case…cleave, tclap, shouts, stupid tankiness…I feel like warrior might be able to out farm mage late game
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>>586649252
All the dedicated #nochanges fags are playing on classic era right now. They don't give a singular fuck about forever. Anyone else was just saying it to fit in.
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>>586649092
They can’t. They fundamentally absolutely cannot. It would require a level of humility and humbling they aren’t capable of. I thought they could do it. But this is going to be a compromise mix of classic and modern.
Im sure it’ll be fun for at least a month though but I think Forever is going to be a very ironic name. Cursed name. Duke Nukem and then WoW.

God I don’t want classic era either. I just wanted classic but more. Im not talking about individual class balance either. Im not whining about whatever dumb shit.
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hopefully 30-60 has more dungeon quests and quests in general, since dungeon xp is lower gonna be a lot of grinding if not
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>>586649252
mega servers are the least egregious thing theyre submitting you clowns to
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>>586649093
what's your main?
i like to have my first alt be a different style than my main
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>>586649348
dwarf_cloth_breastmog.png
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>>586649129
Why would a race that can be a Druid be a shaman? Aren't Druids just more powerful?
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so one will HAVE To play day 1 because they giga increased mob and quest XP apparently

which they will nerf day 2 after 24h wont they
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>>586649440
Orc Shaman
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>>586649438
you've been mind raped by playing on private servers
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>>586649348
i remember on our server in classic there was a guild with gm's gf playing as a boomie and getting first nef tear, they dissolved two days after kek
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>>586649348
retail janny face
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>>586649245
me2
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>>586649470
Tauren
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>>586649458
My nelf on the right
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>>586648973
how hard is it to just vape or get dip or zyns what have you
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>>586647897
>tauren mage
that is literally an Enhance Shaman in his bis gear
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>>586649293
It's gonna be like TBC where sometimes you want a threat tank to pick up adds and sometimes you need a mitigation tank to tank a brutallus-like boss, so guilds will run one of each

Feral tank is the spec I see losing out to Warr/Pal, but maybe they can just bring leader of the pack and dps most of the time, and just become the third tank when necessary.
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>>586649348
thank god someone’s doing less damage than me
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>>586649546
but they were already shamans before gaining druid powers
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>>586649503
enhance? go mage
ele/healer? go rogue
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>>586649519
What mods
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Friendly reminder devs considerably upped damage output of all classes but didnt adjust hp at all so if you are playing a class such as a mage solo you are gonna be in a world of hurt.
Arcane and Fire mages can be alphaed in about 3 globals from a rogue or hunter or feral druid and there's no end game gear which gives you enough stamina without massively sacrificing your offensive power.
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>>586649570
Fact checkers have already confirmed you are wrong, he clearly casts a frostbolt.
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>>586649245
>yep, i'm blue
Da ba dee, dabba da-ee~
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>>586649519
ugh why can't I make it so everyone sees my character like this
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i dont wanna spend money
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How to proceed from here?
Anticipation or Flurry?
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>>586649657
>but didnt adjust hp at all
you don't know that
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>>586649505
Ive never played on a WoW private server on my life. Good analysis!
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>>586649519
Tits TOO BIG. Hips TOO WIDE
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Has warlock demo been nerf?
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>>586649746
>206 and 207
God. Fucking. Damn it.
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thoughts on this Combat/Assa build for leveling?
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I am looking forward to playing my dwarf shaman tomorrow.
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Give it to me straight, how bad will my experience be leveling as prot warrior on the pvp server?
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>>586649849
id love infinite energy
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>>586649389
As wow withers so do the parasites.
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>>586649657
okay but wouldn't mages be able to blow them up too
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>>586649252
How are mega servers a change?
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>>586649786
not really, pet hp scaling was nerfed
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>>586649428
holy fucking based and true
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>>586648359
you wouldnt know because you are a larping noob
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>>586649165
And this is why morning weekend raids are kino cause these nerds are logging off at noon on a Saturday
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>>586649852
Enjoy playing an inferior race when they introduce nelf shamans two weeks later
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>>586649165
>Progress
Bro just pug, this game is made for lowest common denominator players.
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Is curseforge safe to install or is it malware?
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>>586649909
Meaning soloing stuff as lock will be kinda less good now eh?
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>>586649762
INT
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>>586649657
I hope the Devs learned their lesson from SoD and aren't going to have players doing 20k dps in raid gear, and also only walking around with 6k HP. That shit was fucking retarded.
then agian, >devs learning lessons
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>>586649902
did not exist until like bfa
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>>586649657
>pvp
So it can be ignored by people playing the real game then?
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Im looking forward to the endless kvetching(forever) starting in approximately 24 hours. You animals have had your fun here for the past month and a half, now its time for your fun to end and mine to begin. Every complaint, every problem, everything that goes wrong from here on out will provide sustenance for my soul. Let the game begin!
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>>586649998
>I hope the Devs learned their lesson from SoD
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>>586649950
No I genuinely have never mained a mail user. Regardless I don't know why you're getting hung up on that part of the post
Tailoring/LW/BS + Engineering will be the only profession combo for all classes unless you want to purposefully be kind of retarded, nothing else even competes.
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OPEN THE DISCORD YOU UDDER FAGGOT
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>>586648661
Hot take, if that was a Tauren Mage, that makes more sense than Tauren Priests if we consider Taurens were the ones that harbor the Undead in Kalimdor and could have learned from them, and mages are basically the warrior of casters. This then sets up Tauren Cultist in the future given how Twilight's Hammer has always had Tauren whoring they've always had the potential to go down that path.
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>>586649967
Your pet wouldn't really ever die in normal PvE grinding, because locks now have a talent that heals your demon for 15% of all spell damage you deal. It's definitely a nerf to the PvP Soul Link build, though.
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>>586650017
That's not the question you dumbass. Literally what is the difference or problem with "mega servers"? It's just servers but with more players. Explain how that changes the game.
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>>586649998
i had 4k hp in t2 in 2019, i have ordered a few tubs of vaseline
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I kinda want to do this so I will have something to do during the 5 seconds in-between heals.
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>>586649998
apparently they didnt

>>586649897
you cant blow them up if you are dead

this shit is like start of tbc except there aint any sta/resilience gear
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I won't be able to play until Friday because of work, is it over for me?
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>>586650179
Oh shit! Well lock it is then
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>>586650192
it changes the rate at which you encounter other people

in real vanilla you didn't encounter other people constantly
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>>586649954
I don't want to play a nelf shaman, I want to play a dwarf shaman. So I will enjoy playing it, thank you~!
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>>586650242
wait for next fresh
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>>586649897
no lol
winter's chill takes a year to build up, and you can't shatter with only ice lance now
maybe you could try some pom pyro build, but mage pvp in its current state is DOA
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cool. so we're just going to have night elf shamans and tauren mages now. presumably tauren priests and paladins are on the way as well? i'm guessing the orcs in wc3 landed in kalimdor and thought nothing of there also being paladins on this forgotten continent. why didn't the orcs just say to the night elves, hey we're shamanistic just like you :)
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>>586650242
Can’t play after work at all? I’ve got school shit all week and exams to study for but will still be able to play for a few hours every day. I wish I could save you
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>>586649849
I like improved sprint more than endurance. But it looks like a build almost everyone will run.
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>>586649762
>Anticipation or Flurry?
maybe the dumbest question ive seen asked here
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>>586648825
souless goysumers excited to consume next product
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>>586650228
terrible you need to go mental quickness and imp stormmstrike
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>>586650278
No it doesn't. Players are all spread amongst layers. Encountering other players is RNG. If you're a nelf running through ashenvale in vanilla classic you might see 0 horde or you might see 10 horde. If you're a nelf running through ashenvale in forever you might see 0 horde or you might see 10 horde.
No tangible difference.

Would you like to try again?
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>>586650354
Maybe a night elf and orc hooked up like in all that ai porn you guys generate, and he taught her the ways of shamanism
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Is brewing beer cooking or alchemy?
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>>586650228
My Controversial take I know a lot of people would hate is they should lean into making healers lite-dps. Then add attonement healing to disc.
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>>586650354
this is the tranny wow homogenized diversity the kikes always wanted, enjoy
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lil paypiggies waited so long for this moment
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>>586650512
>No it doesn't.
you could go days without seeing other people if you were in a dead zone like desolace in real vanilla
usually you only saw like 1-2 people per hour in real vanilla

now you're forced to play with 30 people per zone at all times, that's not vanilla

in real vanilla it was 1-4 people per zone at all times
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>>586650354
because tyrande is a bigoted chud and just wanted to attack the outsiders until chadfurion slapped some sense into her little foidbrain
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Help me pick a name for my Frost Mage Gnome
She'll be the designated water slut of my group
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>>586650534
awesome! let's have orc druids too. and don't forget about the skelf paladins and night elf warlocks!
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Barrow Deeps seems cool, I hope we get to kiss Maiev in it.
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>>586650548
I would say cooking
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>>586649762
>int not 5/5
>stupid dodge talent
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Why don't they remove improved ghost wolf and just make it baseline instant cast since every spec wants it?
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rate my build :3
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>>586648080
I still have a passionate sex life with the wife after 13 years but I’m not doing that shit every day bro I have shit to do
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If we're getting Night Elf Shaman (Which we are... there is literally no ambiguity after seeing them in that video) then that to me tells me that sadly we aren't getting Draenei. I had thought that the backlash from people not wanting to play a Dwarf Shaman would actually raise the chance of Draenei being released because they have good looking females and they can be Shamans.
But Blizzard gave Nelfs, another good looking Alliance race the Shaman class.
Let me just preface this. There will be absolutely no issue with 'alliance shaman shortages' when Night Elf Shamans become available. None what so ever, that shortage will disappear over night one they're available.
Guaranteed.

So RIP Dranaei, I'll miss you dearly my sexy goat girls... It just wasn't meant to be.
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>>586649389
What happened?
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i’m going to wait an hour to play because YJK the small indie company is going to have launch issues and huge Qs. maybe worth waiting 3-4 hours to get started even.
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>>586650664
Aisu Kurimu
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Female night elf druid
Restoration/Feral hybrid
RP ruleset
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>>586650650
>oh no they added MMO in my MMORPG
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>>586650721
While they're at it, just give ghost wolf to every other class, why not, they all want it after all
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>>586650745
>no Draenei
So blizz might do one thing right.
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>>586650741
>skipping best cd in the game
why?
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Can we start ranking as soon as we hit 60 or is it withheld until raid releases?
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>>586650664
Ipee Nthpunch
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>>586647441
Anybody need a WoW daddy?
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>>586650837
they made my comfy game uncomfy*

fixed
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>>586650745
kill yourself
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>currently planned race / class combos are: 3 nelves, 2 gnomes, 2 humans, 2 dwarves
>will be able to change a dwarf to a nelf with them getting shaman
>4-2-2-1
Getting too many Nelves... The balance is getting fucked
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>>586650782
>not reserving more names right off the bat
lmaoin @ ur lack of foresight
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>>586647898
there is one too many K's in the Clover Club link
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>>586650908
you can start from lvl10 in wsg
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What do I pick?
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>>586650685
Its ok to be upset Anon but please try not to let it ruin your day.
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>>586650495
Too much of a sacrifice for healing, I took stormstrike out since it will cost 8% each cast which can be saved for oh shit heals.
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>>586649997
at low level having it capped likely not a priority
>>586650418
>>586650715
it's for levelling
2 points in flurry to unlock improved storm -> max it out -> spirit weapons -> max anticipation -> max out maelstrom weapon -> mental quickness -> rage of farseer ->max out Flurry -> max out INT talent

Anticipation being there annoys me more than ghost wolf but i no world missing out 6% dodge chance that can reset stormstrike is good for levelling
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>BM hunter
>Survival hunter
>Lone Wolf hunter
>taming a druid
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How are you prepping?
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>>586650851
You don't have to go full retard. It would be a nice QoL update and it makes sense since druids have instant cast travel form without speccing into it.
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>>586650741
the worst build i have seen unironically kys
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>>586650930
Im sure many of these young men would love for you to be their e-daddy
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>>586650965
i’m going RP so stupid blebbit humor names aren’t accepted
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>>586647616
i’ve used this argument on my sex haver normie friends and they shut up real quick
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forever is such slop
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>>586650721
ghost wolf is a stupid ability and im glad it's relegated to the stupid fucking enhance tree
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>>586650669
Based, can’t wait to snipe some horde retards.
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>>586651028
Can't imagine actually following something like that on launch week, how pathetic.
Will only follow leveling guides on an alt after 60. Maybe.
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>>586650664
Nettle Steampipe
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>>586651028
By blocking all the AI thumbnail and minmax youtubers from my feed and reporting them for child abuse content
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What’s the best questing addon if I want to know where a quest is taking me rather than a guide on how to quest?
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>>586651091
you've been able to play with controller on retail for a while with certain addons
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>>586650745
built for big draenei futa horsecock
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>>586651091
You are mindbroken m8
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>>586647343
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ITS FUCKING RETAAAAAIL
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>been telling people in wow fg to go pvp because i know it’s going to be retarded gankfests
>actually going pve myself
who /devilish/ here?
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>>586651161
questie is really the only addon you need to play the game efficiently
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When do we get tinker bwos?
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>>586651091
>accessibility that doesn't effect me is bad!
>"But there's literally no impact on you, why is it bad?"
>i-it just is!!!
ok

>>586650664
Rhea Rodpolisher
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Good night /wowfg/
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Why did they turbo buff warrior threat generation for prot? 30% -> 80% is insane.
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>>586651201
Has Zack reacted to this on stream?
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>>586651323
becuz they removeded salvation
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>been telling people to play on the live realm
>I roll on the dead one
hehe, my epik plan...

BETTER TO RULE IN HELL THAN SERVE IN HEAVEN
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tfw i have 2 more works before launch(i work night shifts)
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>>586651201
wtf is this real?
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>>586651230
2/2 imp stormstrike is a must thats your biggest cd and having it reset 2x as much is huge
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>>586651292
kill yourselves
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>>586651323
They buffed all tank threat generation because salvation is gone, it's a good buff since it reduces your reliance on p*nks
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>>586651179
>for a while
Yeah, at least 15 years
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>>586651323
bc dps is busted on a retail level
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>>586650650
Like i said, pure RNG. Maybe you played on some dead shit server. Populated servers see people at different rates.
Servers being more populated isn't a change and it most certainly isn't a negative thing. You're retarded.
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>>586651230
>maelstrom weapon
lol
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>>586651343
yes he said yes doood and there it is
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>>586649405
I've been trying to get the autists in my era guild hyped. Tiresome
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>>586651292
It's 1 PM though?
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>>586651091
I love how many of you retards act like this is a dumbing down with the silly shit FF14 players manage to do with controllers, yet you'll just see FF14 and decry that with some ad hominem argument instead of acknowledging controller setups have been refined to an absurd degree.
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>>586651516
>she doesn't know
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they edited the patch notes, quick what changed
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>>586651516
maelstrom is very strong if you have an ounce of wherewithal
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can we get solo dungeons and solo raids
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>>586651486
I played on frostmourne which had nightly queues (except raid reset day) every night for it's existence
>more populated isn't a change
yes it is, the change is they're more populated
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>>586651292
*bites you*
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>>586651410
>work
ngmi
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>>586650745
kys futard
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bros... salvdali is gone...
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Does this make sense? I've only played a little bit of this game during the beta
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>>586651438
>gain
damn i read that wrong, i thought it was retain. nvm,, right got it that is huge
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slice and dice costs 25 energy and 1 happiness
what is this happiness resource? is it just supposed to feel bad to press and they are keeping tabs on it?
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>>586651615
Secret unlockable draenei
Input the Konami code on character creation and they show up
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>>586651602
>>586651620
Yeah listen they can buff that dogshit cuck talent as much as they want, casting lightning bolts as enhance is for gay faggots
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>stay up all night tonight
>wake up around 3pm (est) tomorrow
>have dinner (breakfast) and then camp the charicter selection screen until it goes live
>play until I can't keep my eyes open or my back hurts too bad.

does my plan sound good?
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Does Enhancement wants Mindfulness in Resto to stack with Improved Stormstrike integrated mindfulness or only 1 is enough?
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>>586651785
they misspelled bonus
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i've still not decided on PVP or RP-PVP.
i'm worried that the population on RP-PVP will be shit, and that they won't take shit "seriously".
any ex-grobbers here? what was it like? was it like any other PVP server but with fruity RP shit also?
in the ideal situation, i'd want it to be basically a PVP realm but it's also like a zoo where you can see RPers doing their RP shit. not to say i'm against participating in events or whatever, but I don't know how much I could buy in to it. PVP but fun.

do i just go for it?
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>>586648062
Yuck
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>>586651786
*instant lightning bolts you're retarded post*
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>I don't think this specific change is a good addition to the game
>GO PLAY RETAIL THEN IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT
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>>586647441
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>>586650167
Man but Tauren look awful in robes especially arcane and holy themed ones
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thoughts on this pvp build? how strong will doing something like sheep > AP > arcane wrath > pom > pyro be?
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>>586651292
good night, fellow first world bro
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>>586651782
Vibe coded shit
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>>586651903
>AIEEEEEEE SIMPLE ROTATIONS ARE BAD I NEED 20 ABILITIES TO PRESS OR THE GAME SUXXXX!!!!!!
>go play retail then
ftfy disingenuous-kun
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>>586651786
Actually, you'll be spending it on chain lightning more often than not get your shitposting in order.
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>average palladin gameplay

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RT7ba7avJHc
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>>586650901
tank build for aoe/dungeons
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>>586651731
No, you're probably going to use Aspect of the Beast, not Hawk. I'd guess if you want to be a dedicated melee hunter, it'll look more like this.
Verdict is still out as to whether or not Marksmanship with melee weaving or Surv will be better, though.
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>>586651876
it was basically pvp2 but you would see soulful shit happening in the world to look at, was like immersive NPCs
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>>586649389
He's a retail player(he started in Wotlk) so who cares about this faggot
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>>586651659
I don't know what frostmourne was like in vanilla buddy, all i know is that today it's some shithole australian server full of retarded cunts.
Maybe you're one of them, would explain why you're so stupid.
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>>586652123
You're spending the talent that only affects lightning bolt on chain lightning instead? Impressive, very nice. Definitely worth the 5 points then!
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>>586649762
>imp GW
yep 4channers are more retarded than redditors.
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nelf shaman isn't happening
tauren mage isn't happening
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>>586652145
But the Deadly Aspects talent does provide a benefit when using Aspect of the Beast when using a melee weapon
I'm not entirely sure how it all will go, I have very limited experience with the game, mostly going off vibes here
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>>586647343
here, better. if u dont need hit
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Are you boys having fun? I wasn't really captivated by vanilla at launch so I'm on the fence about whether I want to try it or not.
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>>586651323
Because they need to make it playable for retards on Xbox controllers
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>>586652041
retard u gotta arcane blast 4 times then sheep
no block lmao
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>>586652145
you retarded bro?
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>>586649654
natals
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>>586652385
I'm having a blast waiting for launch
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>>586650989
RP PvP
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>>586652385
Yes ma, go to the kitchen and make us some tendies.
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>>586651876
It's unironically >fun to see RP bullshit like Rogues picking lockboxes in dark alleys and a band of dwarves RP walking into ironforge while in game. Grobbulus was also one of the very last realms to be relatively balanced before Alliance won the war and it became an Alli-dominated realm. They also had fun shit like newsletters where Enchanters and Tailors would advertise their wares, and you could become apprised of fabricated guild drama.
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>>586652385
do what i do get a friend code and try it for 7 days
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>>586651731
pure melee build
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>>586652349
Thats exactly right!
Purchasable NE shaman and Tauren Mage are coming ;)
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>>586651676
in the pony jar it goes
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>>586652408
block is a crutch
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>>586649519
Would've been sexo if the tits were smaller
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>going from retail fury warrior apm to wow forever paladin
is it true this shits an auto attacking class? im going tank
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What is release going to look like? Will there be sharding or will there be a billion people everywhere?
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I wanted to be a hot Nelf but my group told me to play Mage instead of Balance Druid...
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>>586652385
Had fun in the beta.
Not really having fun just waiting for launch especially knowing I probably won't get in tomorrow.
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add archaeology to WoW forever
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>>586651808
no thats a terrible fucking idea
since you're est you have an advantage over the flyovers and caliniggers
you want to be able to play in the morning you moron
ALSO your plan is double shit because there is a non zero chance the realms are up earlier than six, this happens in retail all the time
keep a normal schedule and if you must pull an all nighter do it tommorow but thats still a bad idea, you'll make the most progress in the morning till like 2-3est and then your area competition will only climb for the rest of the day
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>>586652557
deflection points can be survivalist doesnt matter
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>>586652629
>Will there be sharding or will there be a billion people everywhere?
Yes
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>>586652629
there will be sharting
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>tfw no nelf dommy mommy
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>>586652467
Thanks
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>>586652624
It was an auto attacking class. They added more buttons in this iteration, but they also reduced the importance of pressing your buttons at the right time on the swing timer.
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>>586651876
Grob discord has over 10k players going on RP PvP and that's just one group
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>>586652385
I've played the game since vanilla. I unironically like retail, especially since I'm one of the few who can actually compare the game to previous versions.

Vanilla never interested me - I did that. I'm interested in forever, but I wish they would get over themselves and add QoL from retail.

3 second loot times, multiple spell versions, boring rotations, raids with no mechanics, dogshit animations / spell effects, no endgame outside of instanced content, world content is non-existant after leveling. You can keep the game as classic+ all while addressing all of these things - retail did it and is the better game for it.
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What do I do for 25 hours?
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>>586652658
So be a hot skelf mage who exclusively talks in Darnassian
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>>586652624
paladin is indeed mostly an auto attack class, with some occasional abilities weaved in. If you like fury warrior in retail I'm not sure why you wouldn't just roll warrior in Forever, the Warrior Journey (TM) in Classic is one of the best experiences in any MMO.
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>>586652601
he did a more realistic proportioned one too
https://h.uguu.se/MLJBHGdN.png
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>>586650553
Final Fantasy has it figured out
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>>586652787
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>>586648143
Leveling blacksmithing and engineering at the same time without mining would be horribly expensive.
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Trigger warning, this post is going to be referencing a streamer. If that causes you to have panic attacks and hyperventilate, skip it.
>Listening to Xaryu talk about Shaman
>See's that Shamans Ele's rotation is Lightning Bolt and CL
>People tell him shocks aren't included, he says that's a tuning issue and nothing more
>Apparently he's totally fine with Forever Ele Shamans having no new spells in their rotation after he spent weeks crying about mage not having anything new to press.
Why is he such a disingenuous piece of shit? Mage has gotten new spells for basically every spec. Ele has nothing. You know when people said that Lava Burst sucks and should be removed/changed? That implied they would want something instead of it which fits better. I thought that was obvious but apparently not.

Rogues get Shiv, Frot Mages got their Ice Lance Demo Warlock got Demonic Brand and so on and so on.
Ele Shaman needs another button. Minimum.

I propose we do something to make Lightning Shield appealing for ELE. If we do that we can incorporate Lightning Shield into the rotation. Still fits the Lightning theme of the spec too. It's perfect.
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Still worth playing an alliance shaman on the rp server in the wake of this update/ NElf news?
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>>586652903
YAWOO WEE WAWOOOGA AHOOO
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>>586652961
KEEP YER FEET ON THE GROUND
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Roguebros our time to shine is coming once again

https://x.com/vanilla_dad/status/2117416060911841618/video/1?s=61
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>>586652903
Where do I grab it?
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>>586652960
Mage got a new spell because they had a single one to use in their rotation, shaman always had more
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>>586650669
Im a lone wolf melee hunter though
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>>586650989
RP
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>>586652827
I'm not paying $30 just for that...
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>/wowg/ - Created 15 hours ago
>/wowfg/ - Created 55 minutes ago
is retail on its last leg?
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>>586650721
Ghost Wolf is Shaman's gap closer, like how Rogues have stealth and sprint, Warriors have charge, etc. Why would the non-melee versions of Shaman need a gap closer?
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>>586652795
Watch midterms coverage, then watch primettime and resident evil and a history of concrete, masturbate, then sleep
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no
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>>586652960
I get watching streamers because they are good at the game, so you can learn.
I get watching streamers because they are entertaining.
I get watching streamers for tits.
But why is it that the most popular ones are always the biggest fucking mongoloids? Who wants to watch this shit?
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>>586653129
Then be a disgusting gnome I don't care brokie
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>>586653076
on the modder discord but he paywalls it
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>>586652742
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>>586652790
Retail would be fine if the story wasn't such irredeemable DOGSHIT and a lot of the systems they half ass or eventually pretend never exist again after an expansion weren't such blatant Activision and now Microsoft pushed garbage which results in Retail mainly just being good for how mechanically fluid it's been since around WOTLK or Cata. Retail combat is fun (even if that's only the case at late game with how boring leveling is), the rest of the game, not so much.
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Hot take: Human Hunter should have been in since the beginning. It makes zero sense that humans couldn’t be hunters.
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>>586652912
Ten fucking THOUSAND trannies
SHEEEEEEESH
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>>586653034
Ya got my attention
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I hope blizz ignores the shaman discord whining, they fixed elemental, it's great now.
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Do you need to type someones first and last name to whisper?
Feels like a long name would make me just not want to whisper em
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>>586653201
I'll be the very cute gnome you refuse to acknowledge publicly, but that you seek every night to sleeve and then warm your bed, anon
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>>586643750
>WF stuff
Flametongue totem shouldn't stack with windfury weapon and vice versa. Even if some changes made flametongue weapon worse, the enhas would then be complaining about how they want to put down flametongue totem while everyone else in the raid wants wf.
>spell power stuff
This is solved by a small numbers tweak.

>hold back shaman's class design
The design they're talking about is absent. Hopefully they're not talking about tbc or wotlk shaman.
>imp ghost wolf
is perfectly attainable as ele. God forbid you're not given perfect placements for all talents to remove all choice from the game.
>second school
I need my class to be just like other classes please remove the weaknesses. Besides there are shocks. Btw paladins need fire spells in case holy gets locked.
>CL has mana cost considerations
I'm shocked. Are you telling me that what you do in a fight can depend on how long it is and what your mana looks like? That's too much for me.
>flame shock
Age old retail x increases the damage of y which is why you use x
>mana issues
Dunno, remains to be seen.
>ele enha overlap
It's getting worse. These people hate the concept of hybrids, and want to make specs pure. Ele will be a mage and enha a warrior. Good game.
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>>586653142
Retail will eventually be your ark as Fagevertanic sinks into the ocean.
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>>586653157
>Watch midterms coverage
>t.
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>>586653284
WASH YER BACK
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>>586652960
>Frot Mages
heh...
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>>586651587
After playing FF14 on controller, I honestly have no idea how people can manage to play that game on keyboard. There are not enough binds. You really have to rebind everything and play finger twister
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bruh....
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>>586652960
lightning shield is fucking annoying because it runs out of charges
I strongly prefer the water shield build, and just have it not lose charges when you proc it via a spell crit, because this also could conceivably solve the mana issues as well

Then make Flame Shock actually hit hard and make Fire Nova worth casting, and you could conceivably have a rotation of Flame Shock, keep Fire Nova and Chain Lightning on CD, and fill with LB. That's good, imo.
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>>586652960
>I propose we do something to make Lightning Shield appealing for ELE
the MoP ele Lightning shield mechanic would have worked just fine - whenever you lb/chain lightning with lightning shield active, you have a chance to gain stack up to 7 and you can spend these by Earth Shocking which eats the stacks and makes the shock do more damage.
The classic Earth Shock causing shitton of threat is probably not ideal for this but could be worked around, sadly this is vanilla and we hate pressing buttons here so lb spam with occasional chain lightning it is.
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>>586653142
*cough* *cough*
4 more weeks....
everyone will come back in 4 more weeks.... *dies*
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>>586653148
Is travel form a gap closer too?
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>>586653142
>>586653186
ya this
game&general will literally be a ghost town two months from now with only the diehard retail and classic players left behind, this has happened for every iteration of the game ever
this general will die if the yellowfeverfag doesn't keep it alive by himself or revive ceegee(RIP) to do the same thing
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>being forced to play the blue elf with the butt ugly druid form models because my husband won't budge off playing Tauren and I'd rather not play at all than play a Tauren
this is hell
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>>586653207
why does every WoW youtube video have some cunt looking reddit in the thumbnail
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>>586652056
Not him but aren’t you being disingenuous for all you know he’s saying Tauren mage is gay
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you know the game is already dead when they're giving out codes in here begging the subhumans here to play their trash
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>>586653254
>It makes zero sense that humans couldn’t be hunters.
>RTS games had elven archers and dwarf riflemen
>RTS games didn't have human archers or human riflemen
it's not rocket appliances bro
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>>586653283
erm actually the trannies are on the rp-pve one
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>>586653207
show me less of this content
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>>586653336
Speak up, laddie
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>>586653142
this general will be similar pace in 5-6 weeks or so
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>Tauren magus
>But no tauren paladin
fuck this shi cuh
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>>586653407
be me, me bee
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>>586653447
No, because it delays your ability to fight, you need to shift into cat form or bear form to use melee abilities as a druid.
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>>586653334
politics is a learned man's pursuit
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>>586648062
Anon only?
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>>586652878
stance changing just to charge is gay
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>>586651731
For leveling, I'd start as beast master and switch to survival at level 30. Just make sure to go into melee some times before to level weapon skills.
https://talentsforever.com/hunter/60/--350200131051-hjgnomqr-11?b=70753h&d=261103

I'm not starting with hunter, but I'm aiming for something like this. Lone wolf is peak soulless by the way and goes against the class fantasy.
https://talentsforever.com/hunter/60/4-005005-350200231251222151-SV3AVhjgonm1qpruvwtxs1ms-11?b=70753h&d=261103
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>>586653454
play tauren u fuckin fag
tauren is super cozy
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>>586653283
Nah Grobbulus was cool lots of chuds
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>>586653254
Trading human warlock for hunter would make more sense
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>>586653469
Because if the retort is to tell someone to go play retail then it cant be about dumb class combos because retail already has those, my 60 IQ friend
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>>586652960
>>586652742
>>586650745
>>586648334
>>586647547
What does sex feel like?
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>>586653734
i dont know...
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>>586653734
salty coins and bags of milk
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>>586653602
>politics is a learned man's pursuit
Go to bed already, grandpa.
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>>586653734
like bags of sand
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>>586653734
soft and squishy
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>>586653734
It's alright but honestly a good wank is better
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>>586653734
it's like getting the #1 parse but way less impressive cause lots of people have sex but there can only be one number 1
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>>586653589
>No, because it delays your ability to fight
Wow... just like ghost wolf...
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>>586653734
Don't ask those posters they have no clue
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What's your schedule for the last 24 hours until launch?
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>>586653524
INTEREST YA IN A PINT?
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>>586653734
dirty and bad smells
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>>586652624
crusaders > judgement > righteousness > auto-attack down > repeat for the next mob
Later you use seal of command instead of righteousness.
Dungeon crawling is different, or if you have a way to regen mana quickly.
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how do you guys have so much time to just fuck around sleeping and doing nothing all day just to pass the time until launch? is everyone here literally just unemployed?
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>>586653671
no it's not. mulgore itself is obviously fine/cozy/whatever but the prospect of playing a female Tauren is disgusting and literally kills all hype for the game for me. it would ruin transmogging to the point where I'd just turn off mogging altogether (followed by a refund) because I don't want to look at their shitty weird animorphic furry models
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>>586653684
>Most known creator is Barney
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>>586653695
That’s not the point of my post. It doesn’t matter what specific issue it is. My point is you don’t know. You have no actual reason to oppose him because you don’t know what he’s even saying
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So how do DoTs work without snapshotting?

If i apply dots and then pop blood fury they'll start hitting harder even after they were applied ?
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they killed retail with all the mentally ill scalie and furshit faggot fetish races and now they're going to sabotage wow forever with all these stupid lore breaking race and class combos, they literally can't help themselves lol
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>>586653454
You just bitch about everything sheesh
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>>586653852
Nah, using a melee ability in ghost wolf shifts you out of ghost wolf.
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>>586653334
>>586653602
>>586653808
>watch midterm coverage
>live in CA
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>>586653878
shitpost
sleep
shitpost
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>>586653929
No idea who that is sry
>>
Odds are nobody has this, but does anyone have that YT short/webm of someone trying to convince their friend the day before Forever starts to play it and Secunda is playing in the background?
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>>586653958
nobody is forcing you to play a race you don't want to play so shut your bitch ass up. fag
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>>586653989
It would be very funny if it turned red though
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>>586653929
that thing is from grob? uh oh, might have to go regular pvp then
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>>586653553
FR
Give me my Tauren Paladins fucking blizz niggers
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If salvation was a mandatory buff for basic group content to actually function, then it makes way more sense to just remove salv and just buff tank threats by 30%.
Do you really enjoy buffing salv on 4 people constantly
You people are so far gone it's unreal
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pornsick ritual posters can't fuck
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>>586653919
Let me guess you’re using HD models
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>>586653989
I'm not even American but I'm watching it. Unfortunately you US pricks have an impact on my country. The western world is watching you freaks with bated breath.
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>>586653917
Yea? Don't tell me you have a j*b or something unc. Gotta be there at 9 do ya?
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>>586654074
Nobodys forcing you either play an undead paladin or something weirdo ass homosexual nigga
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>>586653989
>t.
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>>586653919
female tauren almost stand fully upright. my male tauren looks like a fucking retard in 90% of helmets.
especially for druid. they literally design the druid armor around how it looks on tauren.
nut up and play the cow. you will learn to love it. blue elf is soulless and low t.
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>>586653902
NTA but how does it work with their new capstone? Do you just immediately go back to Command after swapping seals?
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>>586654031
Content creator who covered Scarab Lord stuff
Trooned out
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Why with private servers that have pve and pvp realms, is the pvp always much smaller pop. It's news to me that pvp is apparently more popular on official, but I haven't played blizzslop in forever.
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>decide to remake my characters for RP PVP instead of regular PVP
>can't make horde because population imbalance
I really don't want to go alliance...NE girls are kinda cute but that's about all I like about it.
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>>586653917
We’re in the worst fuckin job market and economy ever so what do you think
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>>586653936
That was your point and now you're just deflecting. Don't get involved next time faggot
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>>586654160
yes otherwise i will be homeless and starving
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>>586653989
It's gonna be a bloodbath tonight.
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>>586651376
And now threat is only remotely an issue in full raid buff scenarios
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>>586653917
I only work 6h days 5 days a week and I start at 1pm so I get an extra 2h and stay up later than most wagies
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what if they actually do tauren mages

surely they wouldn't do tauren mages

if i roll an undead mage and then they put tauren mages in i'm going to punch a hole in my drywall
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>>586653878
hearthstone
prepare a succulent chinese meal
reclears in retail for bonus rolls x2
have a few drinks while doing mythic plus
sleep
chores in the morning
hearthstone
fagever
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Going to be playing on Alliance NA PVP if there are any girls here who want to level together.
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Unironically I hope they make Guytyrs a bit pudgy and blocky so I can play as the goated Hoofies while still self-inserting as a fat fuck when I plap Nelfies in Goldshire, adn Galtyrs are basically Nelfies but taller and hairier.
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>>586653919
dont listen to the retards, tauren sucks ass
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>>586654291
?? You think my point was about Tauren mages? That’s absurd.
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>>586654149
what valuable information could watching that worthless shit possibly provide you?
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>>586654136
yes. SD models aren't any better in this case thoughbeit
>>586654172
i gotta play the druid or it's joever
>>586654183
i'm not playing the cow. i'm playing the fag elf and at least it will be pretty. why can't i just play night elf fuck my chungus life
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>>586654390
They're not doing tauren mages, it's a visual joke and tauren mages would be OP.
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>>586654304
my condolences, stay strong
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>>586653917
obviously
but i'm going back to work on monday
it was a good run
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>Yeah I play Horde RP PvP
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>>586653808
This is a Whites Only general, I'm going to have to ask you to either leave or pretend to be white.
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>>586654410
sorry anon but I'm going EU RP
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>>586651376
Is it removed period, or did they just change it back to 'Blessing of Salvation'?
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>>586652961
No way nelf is happening, I wanna see any proof for it.
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>>586654183
You are posting Classic models
We do not have Classic models
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any racist horde guilds for rp-pvp?
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>>586650745
brapbrapbrpa
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>>586654527
you just bitch about everything sheesh
>>
is the 4chan website breaking
i have to refresh to get new posts now

:scared:
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is it possible to run to a different starting area with the belves or are you locked like undead?
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>>586654618
That's what I'm waiting for
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>>586654560
>DAMN WHIPPER SNAPPERS GET OF MY LAWN!
>BACK IN MY DAY A WORLD OF WARCRAFT SUBSCRIPTION COST A NICKEL!
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>>586654390
erm sweetie Tauren is dps loss for Mages!
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thoughts on this purely for speed leveling?
I think the potential of Setup is huge.
To put it into perspective, my random 39 rogue has about 16% dodge chance without any dungeon gear, no speccing into dodge and no external buffs.
I feel like you can get a crazy amount of value out of this talent, I just don't know when to fit it in.

Also please critique rest of talents too, preferably with some feedback on why you think I am or am not a retard.
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>>586654527
Yeah wel you get what you deserve with those awful HD models
Imagine using transmog
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>>586654735
same for me, update button is broken
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>>586654390
Maybe youll be allowed to race change to one, for a generously small fee of 30$ ;)
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>>586653042
Faggot we got literally nothing. It's gonna be mediocre damage as combat and two meme specs.
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Autistic spirit quest has revealed to me
>Kalimdor themed bundle
>Alliance Furbolg - Druid, Shaman, Warrior, Hunter, Mage
>Horde Satyr - "Corrupted" Druid, Warrior, Rogue, Warlock, Mage
>New Class/Race combos
>Night Elf Shaman
>Tauren Mage
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>>586653947
Yes, that's also how it worked for eureka before they nerfed it to not work on dots at all, it would buff damage that you didn't even initially cast with the buff active
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>>586654742
i don't want to do it myself.
i could do it myself but i don't want to be the change i want to see in the world.
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>>586654735
it's fine for me now but threads and pics were taking up to 2 mins to load like an hour ago
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>>586653919
I went through the same thing

I considered sky elf but the racials are so shit compared to tauren that it makes you look stupid to play it
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We're almost home bros....
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>>586654727
TRY BEING MARRIED THEN
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>>586654845
>not horde ogre
Don't care.
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>>586654345
On top of this my work is ez so I've been browsing this general for 4 hours now
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has blizzard said when the servers actually open tommorrow?
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>>586654903
plus u can run fas t as tauren : )
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>>586654943
I am
Heterosexually I might add
The best kind of married
And I will be playing night elf and she will be my pocket healer
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I haven't been in these threads because I wanted to go into Forever without preconceived perceptions. I had the Beta but only played a few minutes.

I was planning on playing a Dwarf Shaman because I played vanilla WoW in 2004 and Classic in 2019 and the prospect of doing it all over again doesn't really thrill me. I'm here for the changes. I wanted Skyborne Shaman but for literally no reason I can determine they made this Horde only so I resolved to play Dwarf Shaman since that's new. I have played Shaman since Wrath launch (before that I mained a Rogue and a Hunter) and still main one in Midnight.

The changes yesterday have killed all my desire to play Forever.

>Elemental Mastery renamed Lightning Mastery
>Lava Burst removed
I guess I am playing an Electrician, not a Shaman. The rotation is just DoT maintenance and Lightning Bolt spam now. Also this is another trick from the Midnight playbook - instead of meaningful talents that change the way your class plays or feels, you just get passive effects (in this case, 5% crit).

>Lightning Bolt does 78% of the damage it did in Classic
This is just like in Midnight, where my Lightning Bolt does 20k damage while Lava Burst and Elemental Shock do 250k. Pure filler - except that there is no alternative spell. Random procs (Lightning Overload) are required to do any damage at all, just like Midnight.

>Improved Ghost Wolf moved from 2nd row to 4th row.
This is now an Enhancement only spell. Since I play Elemental and Resto, this means that even at max level, I will have to perform a 3 second cast to use Ghost Wolf, and since it's usable outdoors only it basically has no purpose since you can just mount up. The only use case is if you are stuck in combat which you want to get away from, but isn't sufficiently dangerous that a 3 second do-nothing spell will be a problem. Once you get a few dozen feet away you'll switch to mount anyway.

I would love for someone to sell me on these changes but I just can't see it.
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eu gamers whats the play sleep in the day tomorrow and wake up for midnight release play all night and day then sleep early to wake up early?
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>>586654954
they have a map
it's 6 EST
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>>586654390
If they do tauren mage before dwarf mage I'm gonna be so salty.
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why is /wowfg/ the brownest thread on this website?
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>>586654845
ugly ahh fuck, don't care.
I want CUTE stinky satyr gf
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Female Dwarves are the most disgusting thing in the game
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>>586654945
That's for the Alliance Naga / Horde Ogre pack
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>>586654954
6pm est. Idk europoor times or time zones
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>>586655026
I hope they do neither because both would be OP in different ways but really the same way.
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>>586653917
It helps living next to your workplace
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>>586652041
>arcane pvp
>pvp without frost
>pyro with no heating up
Unless you're some god tier genius I would reconsider
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>>586655021
if you're dead set on ele I don't have much I can say to you because yeah it's going to be the most boring spec in the game
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>>586655021
If it makes you feel better theyre probably going to be patching shit constantly and shaman will probably be changed alongside everything else
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>>586654209
>Your melee attacks store a copy of your active Seal for 15 sec, stacking up to 3 times.
>Landing an attack with a different Seal consumes all stacks, giving the stored Seal its normal chance to activate once per stack.
With Unsealed Wrath you would:
crusaders > judgement > command > judgement > command > judgement >auto-attack down > repeat for the next mob
but it would be a lot more mana hungry.
Crusaders > judgement applies a debuff to the enemy for an additional 23 holy damage until it dies, and then commandx3 gives you 210% additional weapon damage applied as holy damage per swing.
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male human paladin
male human warrior
male gnome mage
female human rogue

are my race/class combos cringe?
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>>586654903
i've convinced myself that the sky falling will actually be useful and good for skips, and the movement speed will also be useful... sometimes...
>>586655019
so you're playing the race you want to play. quit jockstrapping me then
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>>586654390
We already know they're doing more race/class combinations. Maybe tauren mage will be one, maybe not. Either way you should be prepared for more race/class combinations coming.
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>>586655051
That's /wowg/ also most tranny and nigger
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>>586654527
>SD models aren't any better in this case thoughbeit
I hate zoomers to much its unreal
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Do I save my nice gnome name for tinker?
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I haven't been in these threads but what's the deal with lusting after blue elves? I thought you guise didn't want more pornbait in your games?
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>>586655234
nah ur gay and u bitch too much
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>>586655201
I forgot a command
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>>586655024
Wake up early or sleep in and play
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nerf mages...
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>>586655074
Naturally they tweak things to use night elf faces, not whatever that weird WC3 model is.
Right? right?
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>>586655024
Morning game sesh with fixed servers and less people. Tryhards will go to sleep, wagies will go to work
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>>586655306
there's literally 1 guy posting about it.
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>>586647981
You'd need to gouge to ambush a second time
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>>586655306
We love skelves here
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>>586654845
>HordeTyrs
Fuck you, your neighbourhood, and wherever the fuck your parents met to make you.
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>>586655024
>shitpost here while I try to log in at midnight for 3 hours
>go to sleep
>wake up and play the whole day
there's really no other play
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>>586655306
>I thought you guise didn't want more pornbait in your games?
who said that? I didn't say that. stop putting words in my mouth!
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>>586654507
Understanding US electoralism helps understand electoralism in the broader west. A lot of politics is international these days because of shared social media.
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>>586655298
>obviously talking about taurens specifically
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told you rogue buffs were coming
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>>586655478
Which are also bad. I'd show a comparison but I dont care about cows.
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>>586646309
You can buy light feathers from vendors?
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>>586655508
yeah thanks I love pressing SnD instead of pressing SnD. such a buff.
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>>586655186
I didn't mind Lightning Bolt spam back in WotLK when Lava Burst wasn't something you got until later, but with it doing only 3/4s of the damage it should and having to wait for random procs to do any damage it just feels very unclassic. But even then, the real issue is Ghost Wolf. This is a core Shaman spell and I don't want to play the class if I have no choice but to play Enhancement or have a 3 second cast time and make it unusable indoors.
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>>586655024
I'm usually awake to like 5am anyway so I'm going to play for a few hours, go sleep and continue when I wake up
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>>586655441
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>>586655362
fuck you faggot. if you were in my position you'd be bitching too. go play a female dwarf against your will
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at what level should i go and craft a wand as gnome priest?
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>>586655462
Uh ok who gives a fuck what are you gonna do with that?
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>>586655306
everyone loves pale-skinned chudborne
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>>586655462
Is today an election or something? Why are people talking about this
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>>586655675
why would healslut need a wand?
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>>586655675
Lesser Magic Wand is 5, so 5
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>>586655675
i don't answer low iq brown questions.
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>>586655021
I'm not going to "sell" you on it but LB doesn't do 78% of the damage of classic, it has a lower spellpower coefficient. But thats because there's more spellpower in itemisation. Retail has your fillers tickle, CL in Forever is only 145% of a LB.
>>
What unholy abomination of a patch are they going to stealth launch today?
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>>586655609
They should just make instant wolf baseline, and change the 4th row enhancement talent to the retail version where it can't be put under 100% movement speed when slowed.
>>
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should i pick up skinning at launch?
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>>586654802
g-guys pl-please respond, I don't care which kind of elf you want to fuck
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>>586655639
bitching is homo coded
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>>586655891
i would fuck the horde elf but not the alliance elf
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>>586655845
fatty
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You ready to get double backstabbed in a cheapshot?
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>>586655845
Ah they got the hands right. three fingers and one thumb.
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>>586655782
how much money do i need for that?
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>>586655603
i gleaned over that part and assumed it would apply to feathers too

dammit there goes that plan
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>reddit still hasn't realized nelf shamans are confirmed
Kek
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>>586655947
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>>586655608
kek this guy believed snd would become a passive
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>>586656002
i will literally reckbomb you into oblivion
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>>586656076
her girlfriend? a trans woman
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Every profession feels like a gold sink. Herbs never make money and take too much time to level
Thinking of just being skinning
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>>586655931
you're homo coded
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>>586655804
Blizzard needs to eat, wheres the MTX and cosmetic bundle patch for release?
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What the fuck is the deal with tauren mages? why would you do mages instead of priests? priests fit perfectly thematically and horde is lacking priest options. mage fits tauren even less than paladin.

also I haven't been here in weeks, I fully expect that the skelfslopper will post his full collection of slops on release day like he promised or there will be consequences.
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>>586655786
The changes feel like Midnight scaling where each mob is always your level . You get more spell power? Let's reduce spell damage. You get more spell damage? Let's increase mob HP.
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>>586656002
I'm human so yeah I just trinket the cheap shot then freezing trap the rogue, gg ez
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>>586655858
if you plan to level leatherworking sure
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>>586655769
i dont have a duo partner
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>>586655719
Lots of things. Further my own understanding of global politics, see what is and isn't effective politically in a place with similar material and cultural conditions that in turn can be adopted here, broader internationalism between political movements I'm interested in here and US equivalents. and so on and so on

I'm a politicshead I guess.
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>>586656178
But ur the one who bitches and also fucks men
Thusly ur gay and i win
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>>586656208
anon cmon u just need one friend.
you don't have one friend you could convince to play with you?
its wow FOREVER
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>>586655609
Yeah it feels pretty bad that the movement tool is inaccessible but I don't think it's as bad as you make it out to be. In raid fights the one second cast makes it hard to use to dodge mechanics, in PvP you either get slowed under 100% anyway or it gets dispelled
If you're trying to kite things around the new Earthbound talent is much better than Imp GW
>but with it doing only 3/4s of the damage it should
This is just not understanding Forever, all classes lost base damage on spells and there is much more spellpower on gear. This is just putting Shaman on the same track as everyone else when during beta Shaman inexplicably had much less base damage on spells than everyone else. The damage overall will probably be pretty good in single target and very good in AoE (keep in mind CoE works on nature spells now)
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>>586656341
nobody likes me
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It's crazy how different the cn models are...
Those 2 have the exact same options.
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>>586655891
for me it's blood elves and nightborne
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>>586656002
>not doing ghostly into ambush
brooo
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I wanted to go dwarf shaman but now if they give us nelf in a month I would rather have that
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>>586656195
>trinket the cheapshot
Best thing to do for the Rogue. Enjoy the instant Blind.
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>>586656185
I truly don’t understand how anyone could think priests for Tauren or trolls fit thematically
Priest doesn’t mean religious guy or spiritual guy. It’s a specific thing. A Tauren shaman IS their priest .
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Priestbros I don't feel so good...
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>>586656432
wtf i love china
Dear Xi, my country yearns for freedom
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>>586654845
I'd play the hell out of a furbolg shaman.
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>>586656527
how so?
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>>586656496
I PvP trinket break the blind
gg ez
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>>586655858
Absolutely not. The math on skinning is hilariously bad. If you level 1-60 and skin 1000 Light Leathers, 2000 Ruined Leather Scraps, 500 Medium Leathers, and 500 Heavy Leathers, and vendor them all (because they never sell for much better than vendor on the AH), you'll make 122000 copper, or 12 gold and 20 silver. But, you've spent 4000*1.5 = 6000 seconds = 100 minutes to do so. So, you're making like 8 gold an hour and clogging all of your bags for the privilege.
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all these alliance pve copers are hilarious. They didnt get into horde pvp and are going to play as second class citizen.
>pvp is full of gankers anyway, they will kill me once a minute
>alliance has better racials anyway
>horde is full off browns, trannies, whatever
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Why?
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>>586656553
Why do they wear thongs?
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Which content creator are we watching tomorrow?
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>>586656185
>horde lacks priest options
Yeah almost like there’s a reason for that that was intentional
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>>586656269
Yeah thats cringe and the information is useless because you have no pragmatic influence on anything
Your time would unironically be spent better taking a nap
Unless you just enjoy politics as a hobby but that sounds awful
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>>586655845
>>586656076
Gnome milk
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>>586656615
what should i take as a druid
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>>586656417
Why? It's probably deserved but tell us why you're such a pos anon.
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>all these knife ear loving freaks no longer want to play shaman
Thank god make dorf sham even more of a special snowflake
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>>586656369
>Yeah it feels pretty bad that the movement tool is inaccessible but I don't think it's as bad as you make it out to be. In raid fights the one second cast makes it hard to use to dodge mechanics, in PvP you either get slowed under 100% anyway or it gets dispelled
If you're trying to kite things around the new Earthbound talent is much better than Imp GW
Ghost Wolf has a THREE second cast, not one second, and the out of combat and dungeon utility is immense, but now lost because you can't use it indoors.
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>>586656649
Still not rolling PvP. Cope, seethe and dilate.
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>>586656667
Gonna watch some T's
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>>586656649
do you honestly believe population matters when there's two layers of faction balancing, once at character creation and another in the phasing?
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>>586656615
i dont know dude
on beta i made like 10gs by level 20 from skinning and ahing that crap
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>>586656656
you dont wear them?
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>>586656667
asmon's girlfriend Kaise
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ritual posting russian tranny faggots can't fuck
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>>586656687
Well I'm a member of political organizations here so I feel like it helps me be better informed for any input I might have in terms of organization or policy, and yeah I do enjoy it as a 'hobby' I guess.
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>>586656649
>i need pvp so i can force people to notice me without needing social skills
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>>586656208
I'll be your duo partner if you're RP-PvE, but we will both being playing Priest
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>>586656667
Pikaboo
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>>586653407
That's Fulmination, and yeah even it would be preferable to this bullshit. IIRC it also gave you mana whenever you proc'd an additional orb, which is vastly superior to the gay ass iteration of WS they're making us spec into Resto for. As of now I'm just going to play Enhancement. Hopefully people can convoke enough if a shitstorm to make Blizzard actually make the other specs worth playing.
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>>586656907
If you could refrain from fucking kids for any period of time I would appreciate it
I know how you politician types get down
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>>586656615
1. But I get to do it while leveling and questing
2. I have nothing else I’d put in those bags to begin with
Don’t have to go out of my way for nodes. Don’t have to burn money and time crafting. Don’t have to lose money on all green gear that drops.
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>>586656667
Mitch and soda back together
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>Totemic Projection renamed Totemic Call. It now teleports the Shaman’s totems to the Shaman’s own location, and its cooldown is reduced to 30 seconds.
so I can't even fish out stealthed rogues/druids with fire nova or roots anymore they gutted ele shaman pvp so hard its not even funny
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>>586656503
you can easily bullshit priests to support the religious practices of any race, that's even reflected in the gameplay with the race specific priest spells. tauren are not solely shamanisitc, they are constantly running their mouth about the earth mother etc. Troll priests were in WC3 albeit shadow priests, that one is too baked in to change at this point, the error was made in OG vanilla when they gave priests a shadow spec.
>>586656673
was it any less intentional than their limited mage options? if you are going to add more class combos at least make them make some kind of sense, in what universe is a fucking bipedal cow from a primitive culture going to master arcane magic?
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>>586656653
bit cheeky innit
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>>586657073
It's only US politicians that are pedos anon
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i havent seen this asked before anons and my only experience with classic has been the lv30 beta:
if i want to have my main do double gathering until max level to fund 2 or 3 alts with real professions, what levels do those alts need to be at? min level? 20, 30? does it depend on the profession?
i was thinking about alchemy, tailoring, leatherworking and enchanting to begin with, since i mostly play leather and clothies classes
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>>586656791
>>586656835
>>586656927
calm down, copers
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Undead paladin or nelf druid?
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>HD Models
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>>586657019
Horde sissies...
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>>586655021
Lava Burst sucks. Elemental was about big and juicy Chain Lightning crits. If anything the capstone should have been a thing like jabbing magnetic rocks into the enemy to boost the Chain Lightning crits.
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>>586655675
I don't know what the starting area for gnomes is like but you should probably quest until you get to a hub with an enchanting trainer. You can make the basic wand but won't have enough money to buy a lesser essence so you will have to keep questing before you can make the first green wand. You could also just buy a wand from the AH, I'm sure there are a lot of players who are going to list a bunch of them
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>>586655845
moar
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pvp or rppvp? im not gonna rp tho i wont even talk to ppl, maybe that is rp tho
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>>586657019
and?
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>>586657150
nta but a shitload of world leaders are up to that foul shit
idk power and influence makes people do weird vile shit
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>>586657150
>It's only US politicians that are pedos
lmao
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>>586657224
How about Ghost Wolf not taking 3 seconds to cast and being usable indoors? Does that suck?
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>>586657019
dont look at the grobb mob mods
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>>586656653
This was such a bizarre talent. Just...why?
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>>586657259
RP as a mute, just type ... in every social situation
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>>586656774
I'm aware, I was talking about if you had it there.
I might make one as my main alt to see how it is
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>roll lone wolf hunter
>uh hunter where’s your pet
>hey hunter can your pet tank this
>hunter pet???
>why no pet??????
Bruh maybe I won’t play hunter this time around this must be what evokers fee like
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>>586655845
>>586656076
Man I love Gnomes.
>>586657189
Cute Gobbo.
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>>586656653
Rogues need something to fall back on if their damage isn't tremendous.
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>>586656649
I just don't enjoy pvp in any game in general, not sure what cope replies you were expecting
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>>586656649
regular pvp sucks. Its fun in theory but just ends up being unemployed rogues ganking you. RP-PvP is kino tho.
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>>586647343
Can someone fix those discord links?
Launch is tomorrow and they're all broken.
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Fuck me I don't know which one is going to be more fun between prot wowyer or prot pala now that they unfucked paladins.
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DOOOOOOD PORN DOOOOOOD SAMEFAGGING MY SICK FETISH DOOOOOD IM SOOOOOOO INTERESTING XD XD XD
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>>586657119
Im sorry but no. A Wow priest is a priest of the light
>tribal practices
Yeah it’s called Shaman and Warlock
>and mage?
I think that’s stupid too. Orc and Tauren shouldn’t be mages
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I have spent much of the beta trying to decide whether my Horde Rogue would be Troll or Orc but I am now making a last minute pivot to Undead
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>>586657408
you just suck lol
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>>586657190
0-4 ud pal
5-9 ne dude
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Well well well
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>>586657496
I say this
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>>586657019
>osrs profile pic
Runesissies?
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>>586657189
Sloppa with huffslove lora?
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>>586656527
They're the best healer now. No idea on how shadow is though.
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>>586656729
i dont know
ive been in multiple guilds and ppl just don't offer/want to play do keys/dungeons or whatever
ppl from school don't keep up with me
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>>586657505
>A Wow priest is a priest of the light
night elf priests are priests of the light?
>Yeah it’s called Shaman and Warlock
how tf is warlock tribal lmao, warlocks got introduced to the horde by direct demonic manipulation not some organic product of tribal society.
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>>586654802
I think leveling as Combat is boring, and I wouldn't assume it's more efficient than Assassination or Subtlety in this iteration of WoW. I think you don't have a good attack to use with Remorseless Attacks. 40% crit chance on one Sinister Strike is kinda meh, it's much better used on something like a Mutilate or an Ambush. I don't know why you're speccing into better Sprint and Evasion CD, because you're likely not going to be using Sprint on CD once you get your mount, and you can just sap a mob when you have to do a big pull and not worry about Evasion, let alone having a 2 minute Evasion rather than 5. I don't think Setup is worth it. If a mob attacks you, say, 8 times over 16 seconds, and you have a 30% dodge, and you have 45% chance to get a combo point, that's roughly 1.08 combo point every mob. If that takes us from a 3 pt Eviscerate to a 4 pt, at level 60, that's like 170 damage. So, we're paying 3 talent points to get 170/16 = ~10.6 DPS.

I would much rather take Cold Blood than that.
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>>586657408
What's the difference between PvP and RP-PvP?
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>>586657628
>now
they literally always have been in classic
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>>586647717
>20
Anon, be real, the tier token quests are going to be in dungeons and raids, they're not locking raid gear behind world content.
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jainas womb
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>>586657019
justified crashout desu every update to shaman has to just be ragebait at this point. no insta ghost wolf until 26 and ele shaman can basically never get it and gutted riptide our only good pvp ability now was the last straw for me.
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>>586657564
so many people want to play sham and then you will barely see any in-game lmao
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>>586657626
Needs nipple bumps
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>>586656653
This is 100% getting nerfed.
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>>586657692
RP-PvP will be a ghost town 6 months in.
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Sylvanas isnt even like top10 hottest wow foids
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Every normal mob should be an elite.
Every named normal mob should be a 5 man boss.
Every elite should be a 10 man boss.

debate me
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>>586657319
That's just QoL arguments versus abilities that define a class.
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>Check the sim site everyone is losing their minds over and judging specs on
>It's using uber minmax specs and strategies on some specs where you will literally go close to OOM in barely 1 minute without a pot and demonic rune, every consumable imaginable, engineering, and crowd pummeler
Barely any of the player base is actually going to be this try harder. I'll be interested to see how the specs shake out for people who don't want to spend hundreds of gold per raid on consumable.
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>>586657676
Troll warlock is what should have covered for whatever troll priest was supposed to be.
Night elf priests fit way better than Tauren that’s for sure. Tauren shouldn’t even be druids
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>>586657781
cope
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So what's up with there being seasons for PVP with new sets each season? Is PVP gear straight up vertical progression retail style?
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So whats the go to if you dont want to be assed to make a last name? Forever? That sounds kind of lame.
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>>586657728
Boohoo I cant right click people to death by farting totems down and hitting them 6 times per swing
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>>586657781
worst case scenario they just merge it into PVP.
at least you could ride the wave.
best case scenario, it stays alive.
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>>586657798
i think monsters and memories is made for you
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I AM SO SICK GIVE IT TO ME STRAIGHT
how do i get a gnome gf? or skelf gf or tauren gf?
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where do i pirate rxp from?
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>>586657798
go play FF11
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>>586657728
shaman changes were good, instant ghost wolf should be enhance exclusive not effectively baseline. ele should be lightning focused and riptide was overtuned. the only thing they could have done better would have been to remove riptide completely and replace it with some non-hot.
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>Be me
>Tired and depressed from work in the last 2 months
>tons of deadlines
>gym on top of it
>still have huge backlog
>things don't get any better
>only 40k in the bank at 33
>Gf left me
It's time i resub right anons? I have been playing era earlier this year but haven't touched the game since August.
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>>586657697
People were saying resto shamans were the best healers just cause of WF totem alone.
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>>586657080
Skinning mobs still takes time, man, especially when you have to do it thousands and thousands of times. That all adds up, and it's not a huge payoff. It's steady and easy, but it's not super lucrative. You can go to Blasted Lands and get two Elemental Earths to drop and you'll have made 12g on those, easy.
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>>586657936
ngmi lil gup
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>>586657781
Doubt it
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>>586657896
Ask AI to list names that fit your class/race and pick one
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>>586657915
curious about this game, anyone here play it?
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>>586657973
Your situation doesnt sound bad man just keep on keeping on
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>>586655021
>I guess I am playing an Electrician, not a Shaman. The rotation is just DoT maintenance and Lightning Bolt spam now. Also this is another trick from the Midnight playbook - instead of meaningful talents that change the way your class plays or feels, you just get passive effects (in this case, 5% crit).

t. retail brainlet who has never actually played classic element shaman. It's not just dot management and LB spam, it's similar to an arcane mage where mana management and synergistic procs play a big part in the rotation. You can spam chain lightning to top the charts but you will be OOM fast, it's about tactical use of CL on clearcasting. You still keep flame shock on the target, and earth shock for interupts.

LB doesn't do less damage, read the patch notes, it does classic damage now with CL hitting as a single target nuke/cleave.

I don't know what you thought lava burst brought to the party that is ruined now. It wasn't like previous versions, it didn't crit and it didn't proc. It did marginally more damage than LB and it caused a nerf in CL. The rotation is still functionally the same amount of buttons, you just use CL instead except there is more synergy between LB, clearcasting, EM and CL.
Not to mention the fact lava burst was clunky as hell, you had to drop what you were casting to do it on CD, it was awkward as fuck with flame shock timing because of its 10sec cd, and it was fucking ugly aesthetically. It made clearcasting worthless.

Also the pvp arguement i see other people making is retarded, a 10 second cooldown wasn't going to save you if you got nature locked in pvp.


Sick of seeing retards who can't read patch notes or who never played classic/TBC weigh in on shit they don't understand.
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>>586656957
rip im pve alliance
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>>586657917
Give her a firm handshake while maintaining eye contact
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>>586657936
Just buy it, don't be a leech
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>>586657882
>vertical progression
>retail style
Nigga, vanilla was vertical progression.
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>>586647470
how good are fem nelf 2h axe/mace animations?
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How bad will I regret rolling priest? They seem to have gotten little changes compared to the other classes.
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>>586657812
Honestly things like this almost makes me not wanna play this game

people are freaking the fuck out, throwing massive tantrums all over the place about very minor and stupid stuff, crying about something then closing their discord after getting exactly what they were crying about, list goes on

And the funny thing is that the game didn't even fucking launch yet.
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>>586657839
>Troll warlock is what should have covered for whatever troll priest was supposed to be.
No it wouldn't, troll shadow priests were supposed to be voodoo witch doctors i.e. they were supposed to derive their powers from the dark forces of their own spiritual system, not by consorting with demons. Literally the only thing they have in common with warlocks is dealing shadow damage.
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>>586657896
Put like III so your klansman III
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>>586657812
>where you will literally go close to OOM in barely 1 minute
So several times the fight length of every boss?
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>>586657496
You can enjoy porn without becoming a degenerate freak, 99.8% of people do, it's okay bro
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>>586657901
was complaining about ele and resto specifically in that post but ok
>>586657960
it's not enhance exclusive though resto will still go deep enhance for the pvp talents only ele gets fucked because they need water shield to not oom in 5 seconds
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>>586658010
What are you supposed to do then? Herb+mining and flick the trackers constantly?
Like fuck it I might as well do skinning because I’m not going to do that so its either a few gold from skinning or literally nothing
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>>586658151
If you like healing none. PoM alone is a better healer than most healers.
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whats a good fury prot build for leveling
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>>586658156
first time dealing with classictards? Remember, this is the same community that obsessed over world buffs to such an extreme degree it was an embarrassment.
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>>586658101
You're on crack if you think the way vanilla did it is comparable to seasonal treadmills that completely reset every three months.
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>>586650745
>If we're getting Night Elf Shaman (Which we are... there is literally no ambiguity after seeing them in that video) then that to me tells me that sadly we aren't getting Draenei. I had thought that the backlash from people not wanting to play a Dwarf Shaman would actually raise the chance of Draenei being released because they have good looking females and they can be Shamans.
Blizzard would be truly fucking retarded if they let the post-retcon Draenei be shamans again if they added them back in as a playable race.

The decision to let Draenei be shamans was made last minute and it really, REALLY showed. Their whole story and lore is essentially demonstrating how they're culturally obsessed with the Holy Light as a religion and totally loyal to the Naaru as a demonstration of why they CAN'T be shamans since they were originally sticking to the "no shamans on Alliance" rule, but they reversed that rule at the last fucking second and made Alliance shamans/Horde paladins exclusive to the TBC races, the writing team cobbled together some of the hilarious bullshit you've ever seen to justify this last minute change. As you know, with the belves it was that they were sucking off a Naaru in the basement to get holy light powers. With the Draenei, they can become shamans because their prophet suddenly said that since shamanism is good that means its the Holy Light too lmao, and Draenei shamans are basically rebellious teenagers pissing off their conservative parents.
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>>586658186
Eh. Nah. Maybe if you buy into the retarded cosmology that shadow and demons are unrelated
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>>586657896
Second verse same as the first.
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>>586658079
thanks brah, what class are you rolling
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>>586657812
No account for raid buffs is also pretty funny when the main raid sizes are going to be 10/20 man.
Like yeah, ele/resto shammy could be shit but if theyre dropping strength, windfury, agi, mana, etc. they're still going to be brought in.
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>>586658094
Nigger fuck you paying for guides and using guides is cuck thing to do might as well pirate it
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>>586658086
>LB doesn't do less damage, read the patch notes, it does classic damage now
honk honk
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>>586657564
I don't trust any of these where Hunter is not #1
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>>586658238
Boohoo I cant elementally/restoratively right click people to death by farting totems down and hitting them 6 times per swing
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>>586658086
>LB doesn't do less damage, read the patch note
Yes it does. It does 78% the damage of old LB. That's less damage. 22% less damage. In a world where every other class just got buffed far beyond their classic versions.
And that's just base damage, the scaling is still butchered on Shaman spells.
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>>586658156
nothings stopping you from finding a guild with chill ppl who don't care about being in the top 0.0001%
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>>586658416
>base damage of all ranks increased
>base damage of all ranks increased
>base damage of all ranks increased
>base damage of all ranks increased
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>>586658335
>raid comes out
>have to replace dungeon gear with the raid gear
>new raid comes out
>have to replace your old raid gear with new raid gear
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>night elf wears gear using the same model as a shaman dungeon set
>ZOMG WE'RE GETTING NELF SHAMANS POGGIES
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>>586657781
WoW Forever will be a ghost town 6 months in, that's moot
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>>586658010
So what. I shouldn’t have any professions at all? Ok sure why not
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>>586658156
>people are freaking the fuck out, throwing massive tantrums all over the place about very minor and stupid stuff, crying about something then closing their discord after getting exactly what they were crying about, list goes on
that IS the funny part
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>>586658385
Need goblin wife
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>>586658556
>>586658556
>>586658556
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>>586658416
Funserver
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>>586658516
she was wielding a 2 handed mace
hunters can't use maces can they anon sempai
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>>586658376
nelf rogue with a nelf priest alt
maybe a druid too at some point
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>>586657896
Higgers
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>>586658428
that just means its a tuning issue anon, not a rotational one
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>>586657936
https://www.ownedcore.com/forums/wow-classic/wow-classic-guides/974853-r-st-dxp-cust-m-gu-des.html

Click where it says "addon" right under BlueRainsky's name
I recommend checking every once in a while since he uploads new version as soon as he can

You're welcome
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>>586656432
Why is china so much better at everything?
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>>586658243
I'd say if you're going LWing, then feel free to pick up skinning. Don't go without a crafting profession, though, like Herb/Skin or Mining/Skinning, because the new crafting professions give you free BiS gear throughout the leveling process.

I obviously don't know how the leather prices are going to shake out with the new LWing, but on every fresh release I've been on, leather sells for vendor price because so many people pick it up while leveling.
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>>586658416
I like how everyone is freaking out about RETAIL DPS when they crippled Forever's damage initially, and this entire patch was actually bringing things more in line to the original Vanilla values than anything else.
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1 more sleepie until forevie
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>>586658094
Fuck off, RXPjeet
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>>586658385
>big puffies too
Now we're fucking talkin'
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>>586658727
1 sleepie, 2 napies, 4 poopies, 7 snackies
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>>586658494
No one was talking about PvE, tourist.
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>>586658589
druid wearing a new leather set
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>>586658704
>free BiS gear
Those recipes were pretty expensive in beta
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>>586657882
the pvp gear we've been able to see is on par with crafted gear requiring materials from the raid tier
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>>586657807
This is Forever, not retail. My experience in the world, say as a Ghost Wolf, defines the class, not some slight modification to the DPS rotation.
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>>586658990
>thinks he can PvP without doing raids
>thinks he isn't the tourist
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>>586652681
this but make it worthwhile
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>>586658285
go either 8 into prot (imp revenge) or 13 into prot (master of defense + last stand) and then go full fury
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>>586656432
wish we had flesh option
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>people here actually paid real money to play blue elves
LMAO
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>>586647343
The no changes classic purist fags are going to ruin this, I'm pretty sure now.



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