Calico edish>Latest patch:https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450/view/680766308468391944>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/https://deadlock-api.com/>Unofficial CompetitiveNewshttps://edl.gg/https://www.deadfrag.com/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>586810732
8 matches in low priosend help
>>586848418Stop leaving games
i'm pretty sure they stealth fixed the ricochet crackshot interaction a few months agoi noticed when coming back to gun holliday that i never got 10k+ crackshot damage again, when that was very easy to do in june. i'm testing in sandbox range right now with 5 infernuses lined up and it only procs crackshot on 1 of them and does the normal bodyshot dmg on the rest
>>586848441i leave out of embarrassment when i'm doing poorly and i know the team would be better without me
>>586848580They don't do better without you bro
I feel like it's impossible to win on Harrow in low elo. Like I'm healing everyone to full, applying debuffs, setting up kills but my 5 designated apes are just not doing anyhting
>>586848693>Playing hard support solo in bricklow Nigga play Beam Kelvin and get rescue beam if you feel like it
Standard MMR is definitely real.I play with a lot of friends, and we all have pretty varied schedules, so we get a 6 man queue rarely, and from what i feel the average skill level of the match varies pretty wildly depending on whom i play with, so much so that i almost always get MVP when i play with the most chill bros, regardless of whom we play ( We have a wide character pool ).What's more we noticed that it might even be taken into account for lane pairings, i almost always get matched with the same guy ( Who's the closest to my level, he's a bit better ), except in the rare cases when i get my strongest character and he gets his weakest.I might be seeing things on the laning pairing, because our sweatiest bro have a really narrow character pool, so it might play a part.Anyone to corroborate?
>>586848580bro... just believe in yourself bro......
>>586848731ABL buys melee charge and spams a fuck ton of heavies brickbro
>>586848558the reason i didn't realize this until now was that the interaction still applies to minions and jungle, at least in terms of refreshing crackshot cooldown, but i'm pretty sure the damage itself is also applied. so they only fixed it for enemy heroes. when you crackshot a group of players with ricochet, it no longer refreshes crackshot cd by each player hit, and only the enemy you shot at gets hit by crackshot damage. it has been like that since july or august, i'm pretty sure
>>586848580relatable
>>586849004he pairs it with fleetfoot so he can HMC
>>586848832but Harrow is way more fun and also she's hot while Kelvin is fat and ugly and a ginger
Lash sex
>>586848884Standard MMR is just the old ranked system
>>586849141Then if you clock your team as retarded, pivot to an ult+damage build and steal farm instead of full support
Thoughts on Yam?
>>586849141>Harrow is way more fun>Than KelvinYou obviously never crossed the map at Mach 7 on an ice path 200m into the air to rescue beam an ally on the brink of death.Ambulance Kelvin is peak.
Who builds Veilwalker?
>>586849385haze mommy
So when's that next big item patch, Joshi?
>>586848884I play with a fren that made a smurf because he kept complaining I dragged all the streamers and pro's into our lobbies, that was before the recent ranked split. Now, he is recognizing all the n1 ranked players of each hero all the time when we play...
>>586849330Dead after the RR and grapple nerfs
Abuse the cheat death mirage freelo
>>586849385no one since the new map came out
>>586849374myabe I'll try it in standard
>>586849515...You know you can proc it in those little ghost/juke rooms, right?
>>586849480What do you do when you get cursed or stunned out of ult
>>586849330This mod is awesome but I feel like this pose is TOO sexy for the murder queen
>>586849385>item named veilwalker>look at map>no veils
PULL. BACK.
>>586849385invest in the secret chinese ultbot violet build
>>586849385After the map change, nobody.All the useful veils were removed. Take the Weavepill
>>586849598those are too out of the way, always wasting ~3 seconds of your invis
I am once again asking for someone to link me the interview of the guy who quit his paralegal job and left his GF to be a deadlock pro
>>586848241I don't know how they bungled Calico's design so badAnime got the template right in early 2000s
Why does Curse not interrupt Billy ult?
>>586849768>she says to the lab currently tied with her
>>586849613unstop + cheat death makes you literally unkillable. The only counter is to chain curses
>>586849939It's a chain on you, not a buff on him
THE VENATOR FIGHTS WITH FERVOR
>>586848558They must have fixed it recently why does it still work on jungle creeps? Anyway it wasn't even good as crackshot SUCKS
>>586850086>2 slots and 12800 souls to deal no damageok
>>586850086I've run into a couple people running this and it literally does not do anything, if you're winning using it then you're just getting lucky with your team.
>>586850086Do you just hope they waste time on you while you do nothing in return
>>586850238>Anyway it wasn't even good as crackshot SUCKSyeah it sucks ass now, but like i said with ricochet proccing it with every bullet you easily got 10k+ damage per game, 100-200 damage every 20 seconds is dogshit, 100-200 extra damage from EVERY SINGLE HEADSHOT was gamebreaking and i'm surprised it was never abused by any aimer like lefaa in eternus
Now that nightshit has stopped pretending that ventaor isnt the worse m1gger is the game can he get buffs?
>>586850086right on queue the shitlow retards with zero macro sperg at this post
>>586850474No, I don't want retards taking him from me. I've been faithful to the venator for a long time.
>>586850509Furion has a 0 second teleport and he's still not good bro.You're dragging the game out a bit but not doing anything
>>586850474yoshi: i got you bro>consecrating grenade radius increased by 20m, now silences>gun spread/bloom increased by 400% to compensate
Increase infernus's dash speed
>>586850753Dont forget>Move speed reduced by -10m/s because fuck you
>>586850445>5 million headshots>meanwhile paradoxGAWDs just click someone one time with insane histcanning and oneshot everyone
>>586850474What buff do you want for him, Anon?
all i want is for this ability's duration to scale extremely hard with spirit power so i can play techies
Here's a challenge. Open up the game, go to the spectator mode, and watch a random Harrow player in a ranked game. Notice anything in particular?That's right. All the Harrow players fucking suck at the game. Half of them must be playing on controller. They can't hit their healing needles, they can't move around the map, they can't do anything. 90% of Harrow players fucking suck at Deadlock. It's amazing how consistent it is, really. Watch a Harrow player at random, and they just fucking suck.
>>586850086>spend 1/3rd of your total budget to be kinda sorta annoying in exchange for dealing zero damageok
>>586850445They need to lower the cooldown by like 50% or make it so it has independent cooldowns per enemy hero or something. It can be oppressive in the laning phase but holidays don't really build gun and their kit is more support focused. I don't know if you can really ever balance it.
>>586850474you got it!>+10 damage on trap>+1.2 second duration on ultimatethat should bump him into a good A+ tier. we'll keep an eye out if he requires nerfs to compensate for this
>>586850918Give it 0.5x spirit duration scaling Also make it take several shots to break at T3
>>586850857once every 20 seconds?
>>586850857it's a matter of>metal skin/disarm only optionsvs.>spirit resilience + spellbreaker + enchanter's emblem + escalating exposure + 500 other items that give spirit resistcarbine is definitely getting nerfed though
>>586850918Would be cool if they reduced the cooldown for firing off charges. Kind of wish I could fire 3 in a row as a fight starts to minefield things.
Start getting superior cooldown on paradox to carbine spam
I WILL STAND AGAINST MANY
>>586849385Nobody, there are no useful veils anywhere on the map anymore, just get shadow weave since it's actually good now.
>>586851003i miss how 2024lock let you build any character as gun. i'm fully expecting them to remove crackshot and fully turn her into a spirit supportslut character and fully disregard the doc holliday's gun thing
Haze is made for ________ and ______!
>>586850474>Devs nerfed Venator's ult to the point where it does less damage until you are level 34, in a game where levels cap at 35>He still doesn't have a third ability>He still has no reason to buy spirit items at all>His shotgun is still buggy as fuck>He doesn't have a get out of jail free card like Haze/Wraith/Infernus/etc.He really was never good, NigShift just played him in a very specific way that made him do one thing well (hit the gun spike and start raping)
>>586851860dunno where those extra fullies came from
>>586851884impreg and maternity leave
>>586851893pure damage makes up for all those minuseshe's also the most likely to benefit from a stronger, revamped gun shop rework
>>586851860What are you talking about anon, don't you enjoy AoE slop?I genuinely believe that all spirit damage across the board needs to be reduced by like 20-30% so that spirit resilience is no longer a must-buy item.
How much time left on season 1?
How much time should I spend on movement maps?
Winrate fags be like>Messi? Ronaldo? They're good, but they're no Telmo Zarra
>>586852038Pure damage is not good since spirit damage becomes even better than pure damage with escalating exposure and the billion other ways to shred resists.
Apollo stonks up?
>The guy who played Seven in Nightshift built Refresher first while playing ball sevenYou guys told me these guys are really good...
>>586850918It’s already long asf
I feel 'brams will be the character most affected by the power creep this game will inevitably go through. He already fell off pretty hard in the last few patches, and if the item update doesn't provide good melee items it might just be the beggining of the end for blue boy.
>>586852220But it gives you back all your ball charges too, and Seven's ult is stupid good anyway.
>>586852179You can also shred 50% gun res with like 1 bullet so pure damage isn't really anything special outside of the bundled execute
>get lash teammate on the lane with tree>he's afk under tower 24/7bro........what the fuckhow do you even have 15 wins on him
>>586849385Jumpscare Victor, Secret Chinese Tech Doorman
Playing Kelvin means your lane experience is going to be garbage until you start building your Ice Beam
>>586852121like 9 hours or something
>>586852171
>>586852179pure damage is good by 10 mins up to 35 mins, which is the majority of the game. and knowing yoshi's design goals (35 minute games), they are going to make changes so games go faster, not longer.
>>586852275>He thinks Abrams is bad
>>586852171I am white so I do not understand this reference
>>586852275shoulder charge and his ult are already some of the strongest abilities in the game. ivy is also stronger than all the new heroes and we have the win rate stats to prove it
the rank 1 player in EU is a silver main
>>586852171Yes that is accurate, even shrunk winrate shows telmo with better stats
Add gun scaling to pure damage
>>586850159Third best killstreak start line in the game to me only beat by The Doorman has begun his great work... and Victor shares his pain
>>586852220TBF pub matches and (nightshift by extension as a scrim league) are for stress/limit testing and figuring out what does and doesn't work. Anyone taking this shit seriously is a retard, it's all practice when(if) and actual pro scene crops up.This is also why EU is better then NA, EU stress test constantly and NA gets caught up theory crafting instead of playing the fucking game.
Make it so Graves has a chance to have a panic attack when she's at low health
>killstreak linesCool>no multikill linesLame
>>586852367It's really not anywhere near as good as spirit damage + escalating exposure, and never will be, because Venator and Rat King are the only true gun characters in the game and thus will always be bad.
>>586852323>Jumpscare Victorimmediately thought of shadow weave suicide bomber victor>mystic slow + weighted shots + slowing hex + shadow weave + berserker>walk up to enemy invis, instantly apply 100% slows from pain battery + aura + items, and hex them if they have shit like wraith tp>gorillion gun + aura damage at once and you have ult if they still outdps you
WHY GAME WOKE?!?!?
>>586850474They should really just rework his kit into a pos1 late game guy, since he has ass for movement options making him a fair to both sides end game dps nightmare would be a great change for him
>>586850306>>586850987you're doing the same amount of damage as you normally would on Mirage lol
>>586852309I had a Lash player laning with me against Venator and Rem and he just straight up left the lane 3 minutes in to go punch boxes and left me to defend the tower alone against REM and VENATOR.
>>586852701wait for the shop rework
>>586852667Only if it's a A24-produced, genre-redefining, trope-subverting, atmospheric, dark and eerie, emotionally draining, gut wrenching, aesthetically heavy craft by post-horror auteur with an arthouse edge, dread-inducing, suspenseful build up with strong character development and gradual feeling of escalation, bone-chilling slow burn with “say more with less” approach and soul-shaking, blood-curdling, skin-crawling and nerve-wracking exercise in persistently looming dread where tension and anxiety permeates every frame as movie reaches its nail-biting, jaw-clenching and paranoia-inducing final climax, free of any cheap gore, cartoonish CGI or infantile jumpscares panic attack
>>586852792Sorry but that goes to Wraith while also being infinitely easier to play and having zero risks associated with doing anything at all.
>>586852701The Rat King that had to be gutted to not have 65% WR?
>>586852839I just abandon the lane at that point, even sometimes join them so we can share farm :)
>>586851893His traps should go invis after 3 seconds.
So is Blood Tribute + Berserker the potential man of item combinations?Was it ever good?
>>586849697It's definitely way too smug and out of character for her, she's a no-nonsense complete bitch that sounds like she hasn't smiled once in her entire life.
What do we know about the upcoming item update?
>>586852698ULTRA KILL MEGA KILL OWNAGE
>>586851893>He still has no reason to buy spirit items at allIs that necessarily a bad thing? Scaling exclusivity off of gun on everything doesn't seem bad in theory if the item rework gives you more build variety with how your gun functions
>>586853174nothinghopefully broker comes back though
I kinda want to have sex with Holliday
>>586849330Going to be utterly auraless when they change her model to look like it came right from kpop demon hunters, will probably record some lines too that make her go from the bitch who hates everyone into someone """humanized""".Gameplaywise? Fun kit.
>>586853267M M M MONSTER KILL
>>586853174Based on having the broker, and this was one of the big 3 of the end-of-year, I am thinking the neutral items from Dota are coming over
>>586853267HOLY SHIT
>>586853334>t. Clydesdale stallion
>>586852667kek
>>586852327Playing Kelvin means your ally in lane is going to be poor af because they had to lane with a worthless pile of shit that comes online 15 minutes into the game.
>>586853078If you need an item to activate another item, it’s bad
>>586852667They should make it so that any time a female hero's hp drops to Critical, they roll for a fight/flight/freeze/fawn response.>FightPlayer retains control of their hero as normal>FlightHero gets afflicted with the Fear status effect as if from Harrow's ult>FreezeHero gets stunned>FawnHero takes off her clothes and offers herself to the enemy team as a breeder. Her feminine instincts tell her that by submitting to the stronger tribe she can pass on her genes. In fact, thanks to the magical influence of the Ritual, she is able to ovulate on the spot. Kneeling naked in dogeza, she raises her butt up and spreads her legs in an animalistic act of offering access to her reproductive organs (Baba and McGinnis and any other unfuckables Valve might add in the future will die instantly instead from burst blood vessels in their brains)
how do you bait parry? Just stand still doing nothing or you can cancel some animations? Also what's the best damage you can do while they are in cooldown? Another charged melee?
>>586853549bricklow-kun... those are 2 of the best gun items
>it's a 20 minute game becomes a 40 minute game because Mirage does nothing but split push and ults away the moment he's in any remote danger
>>586852745You see the vision my friend
4 wins with nurse harrow...WE ARE GETTING EVER CLOSER
>"be quiet or i will butcher you like you butcher my language">said by the bitch with the thickest, LOVE YOU LONG TIME SUCKY FUCKY, jap nippon accent in history of the world
>>586853549Escalating Exposure bros...Mystic Slow bros...Toxic Bullet Bros...Tesla bros...Inhibitor bros...Ricochet bros...Transcendent Cooldown bros...
>>586852980Feels bad man. If they just made her more a pos2 or something where she ebbs off a bit super late game i wouldn't have an issue with her, but as it stands she's the one carry that annoys the absolute fuck out of me, the only lifting she should be doing is lifting her fat as fuck playerbase off of their bed and outside to touch grass
Deadlock if it was good.
>>586853270I have very little hope for the item shop rework, they're probably just gonna gigabuff all the spirit items even more and then gimp all the gun items more.
thought i could get my last 2 hero wins today before reset but ive genuinely had like 8 losses in a row with the dumbest fucking throws and teams not taking midboss after a wipe then letting them take it uncontested. i'm getting teammates that go 0/11 in 13 minutes it's driving me insane i really can't be fucked with matchmaking cause ranked is probably not much different
>>586853661You can charge it and turn away which is the usual. You can also weave in light melees with your shooting and they might try to parry that
>>586853613It's all girls or none, coward.Get your dick out for Baba and Ava
>>586852995Rat King is fucking awful now, and the only reason he was so good was because of his ult being yet another 'my team automatically wins the fight' ult.
what are the chances Kelvin had sex with one or more of the sled dogs from his expedition
>>586854192Also his retarded grenade gun damage that got nerfed in 5 waysAlso losing 20% of his gun damage
>>586854048what game is this?
insider bro here, the item update introduces a new investment category called Agility, and they move all the movespeed/stamina items there and add new ones. can't spoil what the new items will be though sorry!
>>5868542130, his entire sled dog team was female and Kelvin is gay.
>>586854052I'm a fool that is optimistic that maybe we'll see some cool fun build options like slower more bursty shots, bullet hoses, utility bullets like your silencer stuff, sustain, ect, so you can mix and match. I'm hoping i can just go Dirty Harry with a handcanon huge revolver damage build on Abrams, Doorman or Holiday instead of just having to go bullet hose
>>586854419fugI'll bump it up to 10% atleast tho cuz I've seen plenty of gay dudes give into cookie
Leaker here, next update will add sex with GravesLook forward to it!
>>586854707Yoshi can you give her a loliPugna arcana down the line, I'm open to paying for it
>>586854386The grenade being auto-aim and requiring zero skill to use at all was a big problem, but he also does NO fucking damage without it.Also being a gun character is inherently bad in this game anyway.>>586854465The game kinda has a huge problem already with the only good guns in the game being bullet hoses.
>>586854096hey he didn't mention Ava in the unfuckables so credit where credit is due
>>586853959All of those are good on their own/ activated by the kit of the hero>>586853680BT has been busted forever but berserker is fairly niche
>>586852612>Anyone taking this shit seriously is a retardThat would be the developers then, lol.Quick, we need to nerf egg, it's breaking the game!!!
>>586855014If you're buying TCD without actives to enable please don't appear on my team
>unmuted>play 1 street brawl>3 stack who gets 20 deaths>leave walker to wait for them to respawn>they're seething over mic as we lose>comma banned again Incredible you don't even have to type to get a repeat ban. Just have a bunch of retarded trannys rage report you. Icefag needs to fix his system
>>586855160I do buy tc for actives but it doesnt “enable” them, they work without tcEnabling would be like getting toxic because you dont have a way to proc escalating
>>586854465I said it before, but it'd have been cool if mirage's gun fired retard slow but applied a mark on every single shot and was still exceptionally good at applying On Hit effects.
>>586853078>Was it ever good?it was THE warden item combo somewhere between march 6 and the mid urn patch
>>586855414That's pretty much what the Graves build people were shitting their pants over does because skulls are trash
>>586854415Great more troonment
it's up
The Soul Bag change has to be the most retarded niggery fucking change this game has ever seen.FFS you do one bell tower or other sinners and you cannot ever ever risk any fight or you will lose 2k souls now because it takes 10000000 years to absorb.
>>586856364Baba's gonna remain first ban until they remove all her inbuilt debuff resist I feel.
>>586856374Just do some quick math and buy an item for the exact amount you have in unsecured souls
>>586856374I think the most retarded part is that you invalidate all the risk of holding bags long as you are judicious about spending the moment you have all the souls you need and not a single more.
>>586856374wait theres a small risk to getting infinite souls out of the jungle and boxes?thats crazy
They need to either rework melee or just admit defeat and remove it entirely. Dogshit jank combat subsystem>Buggy hitreg, made worse by the reliance on INTENTIONAL desyncing visual location and actual hitbox location>Parry is a meme, instant buttonpress react against a long windup -> you get stunned and take bonus damage as a reward for not sitting back and spamming spellsThe only thing it's good for has been clipfarming those zero minute 2v2 lane burgerboxing sessions before troopers even spawn
>>586854213All of them and it's why Seven hates him, Kelvin cheated on him for knotted cock
>>586856364silver is so op...
>>586854048>sausage partyWhat is this, Village People, lmao? Just go suck a cock already you fag.
The apollo buffs seem kind of unnecessary I like him better with the stun
>>586856567The math tax is brutal.
>>586856364poor rat
>>586856605Parries should just get nerfed into shit, and you'd have to buy rebuttal (moved to t2, no stat increases, parry cd reduction removed) to have parries stun
>>586856463Her debuff resist isn't the issueHer tankiness isn't the issueHer mobility isn't the issueHer issue is her presence on one team removes an entire damage type for the enemy team. It's ridiculous. If she lands just a single 1 on you you may as well be down a 6400 spirit item. And she rushes Duration Extender so it lasts the whole teamfight even if you don't get hit a second time
>>586852839>venator and rem lanehnng...
>>586856678tf2 did have a very gay male in denial demographic
>>586856768nta but parries stunning is fine i just dont know why getting parried stuns you AND makes you take bonus damage on top. you are already crippled by the stun, the enemy gets two guaranteed heavy melees on you. at every stage of the game getting parried is basically a death sentence unless your team is far ahead enough that you turning into rapemeat for 2 seconds doesnt matter
>>586856768that would be like adding an item that lets you walljump after removing it from everyone. Or dashing, or sliding. What a dogshit take.
>>586856605>>586856768>>586856889no
>>586856819yjk venator sleeves him between waves
>>586854048>SAARRR IM PLAY TROON FURTRESS 2 SAAARR IM REAL WHITE CANADIAN NORTH AMERICAN CODED SAAARRRNobody cares Rajesh, go back to your tranny containment general
>>586856374unsecured souls are kinda dumb and a pointless holdover from DotAthe game is already a broolfest and gankfest, we don't need to make the gap between leads and falling behind even greater
>>586856889they should just make debuff reduction work on it abrams and billy already have it built in
>>586854048>Abrams' tome isn't replaced with funnee sandvich
>>586856940U
>>586856463I'd like to see how it feels if they got rid of the pull, its just an extra cherry on top
>Gun items randomly have downsides like slowing bullets reducing your stamina regen/movespeedSo uhh... why is this the case? They'd still be mediocre even without the downsides
>>586856967I get a massive dopamine spine when I kill them in my jungle and get a fat bag
>>586854048spy should be haze with 2 revolvers. holliday doesn't make any sense besides crackshot
i just know one of the graves i've played with was one of you, are you here kaji
>>586857076>Spirit items randomly have upsides like Escalating Exposure increasing your spirit resistSo uhh... why is this the case? Besides the obvious that spiritGAWDS are a higher caste than gunDHALITS I mean
>>586857058Why is Drifter's critical portrait all sad and mopey anywaysShouldn't he be having a great time?
>>586857027UUUU
>>586857125That's geist
>>586857189he's a fake demon and canonically realizes during the ritual that he doesn't enjoy a fair fight, only slaughtering hapless victims
>>586857380He's just like me fr
>>586856928That would be based though
>>586857189Generally speaking "gigachad murderhobo 9000 who HECKIN LOVES KILLING, bro cutting people open and spilling out their intestines is so epic" guys tend to not like it when they're the one getting beaten up insteadLorewise Drifter is an ancient and powerful as fuck vampire who just acts as a prolific cannibal serial killer. He probably hasn't encountered prey who can properly fight back until he entered the Ritual looking to spice things upIf he's winning it's "oh man this is awesome, why did I spend all those centuries murdering random women on their way home from work and children afterschool?" If he's losing it becomes "fuck I bit off more than I can chew"
>>586857465you might like marvel rivals
>>586857189Rapist not so tough after getting raped
Man I don't even get tilted at games butFuck me>Infernus feeds 0-10 and leaves>Mina feeds 0-7 (just to leave once she hits 0-10)>This is only minute 15Just rape me
The problem with the item system in this game is that there is only 1 items for every problem you might have You can get more build diversity by adding more upgrade paths for example slowing bullets could upgrade to one of multiple items but I think you might need to restrict how many you can have because spirit is only balanced because there are not that many good spirit items
parry mechanic is retardedespecially when these fags buy rebuttalnot fun at all
>play Harrow>everyone on enemy team bought healbane>heal for actually 15hp per shotso this is the massively OP hero that breaks the game by just existing?
>>586857626Hey at least they left instead of feeding and forcing you to play it out for 25-40 minutes
>>586857775True remove melee completely
>>586857754Hot
>>586857901it's bullshit that they made a fun mechanic and then punish you so fucking severely for wanting to use itit needs buffs
>>586856609that makes so much sense..............
>>586857781If 6 people are actively killing your teammate that's when you're supposed to use your rescue beam. Is this your first time being a healslut? Make sure to wipe him off after you're done sucking his cock, like a good slut would do.
how do i use rem 3
why paige on her loading screen summons tentacle out of her book
>>586858168aim it at things in this orderenemy sinners > allied heroes > allied troopersduring laning phase, only use it on allied troopers
>>586858298It used to be a dog but they censored it
>>586857515>He probably hasn't encountered prey who can properly fight back until he entered the Ritual looking to spice things upSIlver managed to go against both him and Shiv at the same time. She's probably the most powerful hero behind Doorman lorewise.
>>586858412i always got the impression it was more like a drunken brawl that she got away from mostly intact and not a formal 2v1 situation
>>586857275geist only has 1 revolver
every single character needs to be nerfed until billy is good
>>586856678No need to project faggot
>>586858168>During laneSpam it on troopers to permapush so you always have lane prio>8:00Sinners boxes spawn. Go to the enemy jg and use your 3 to gorge yourself you debauched glutton. Don't get caught or the enemy team will rape you for your lunch money. DO NOT touch any jg resources on your team's side of the map>MidgameUse your 3 on troopers on sidelanes, so they autopush the lane giving your team constant pressure. If there are no teammates around when a 3-buffed trooper kills enemy troopers the souls get shared with your whole team which is really nice>Midgame (but there's a fight)Spam your 3 across all your teammates to buff them with movespeed and a bit of spirit resist>Midgame (but enemy sinners have respawned since the last time you took them)Go for another harvest, starving the enemy team of income. Don't get caught, and again DO NOT rape your own team's jg like a retard>LategameSpam your 3 across all your teammates to buff them with movespeed and a lot of spirit resist
i realized that this game is really not for me. you need too much aim skill to effectively play almost half the cast and it feels terrible ot lose out on gamechanging kills because your aim is too shit. i just cant do it anymore
>>586858392good morning sir
>>586858891Play one of the dozens of aimlet heroes
>>586858891Take the Kelvin/Dynamo/Graves/Victor/Frontliner/active disables pill.
>>586858891lol literally just pick an AoE goyslop hero who doesn't aim? what are you even talking about
>>586858948name 24 (dozens)
>>586859005dynamos like top 3 items require u to land headshotsvictor is mainly gun buildskelvin needs tracking skills with his laser beamgraves needs movement skill so u can stay on top of people and not get shot instantly
>>586856719He's never going to be fun to play against so long as he has riposte, it's just miserable to deal with. Changing it from a stun to a disarm/immobilize/removing your parry is just stupid and annoying to deal with.
>>586856587Yea maybe they should make you go all the way back to base instead of the secret shop
>>586859267>kelvin needs tracking skills with his laser beamHAHAAHAHAAHHAHAAHHA
I am going to do mid boss but neverrrr push any objectivesI am going farm jungle non-stop and never show up to any teamfightsI am going to push waves to dangerous areas but never with my teamI am going to get killed while jungling and let my team defend base 3 vs 6I am going to make you waste 1 hour of your life
>>586855438Yeah just something that doesn't make every gun feel the same if you build for it would be great. I know i was really disappointed in Grey Talon when I first started and realized his bow was just a fucking gun with no real feeling of impact or slower rate of fire. His 1 feels more like how his primary attack should feel regarding time to shoot and shit. But I get if you did that he'd be omega ass to lane as due to creeps and omega ass to fight if he just could chunk you every shot
This is the 3rd time Baba has gotten a giant block of nerfs and her winrate hasn't changed at all
Nurse ult should be a cone, like Rem ult, but move faster and deal more damage
>>586859391are you the anon from last week who was posting about his m1ggers mindlessly farming at max items?
>>586856364Doorman bros we're actually viable
>>586859534that's because baba's the one that's actually nerfing characters sweetie
>>586859267>victor is mainly gun buildsAnyone telling you spirit victor isn't viable is a lying faggot, maybe MAYBE it falls off at the eternus 6 level but who cares. Its good for anyone outside that>T.high phantom victor player who has regularly 40% aim accuracy
>>586859534I wonder how accurate win rate is, because they don't have access to API. Everyone just uses games people actually submit or play with an addon to auto-add.
>>586859534because the thing that makes her broken (stealing all your spirit and tranny long legs being the most overloaded ability in the game) are never touched in the nerf patch so nothing changes
>>586859534See >>586856778
Even when you're winning people get so mad
>>586859640What's the game plan? Farm all game and push a walker or a fight when ult is up then go back to farming?
>>586859695Watch them reduce her spirit per boon by 0.2 next patch (she still spams 1 into teamfights to neutralize one of the only two possible damage types in the game)
>>586859534That is due to the fact that her entire design is Shiv 3.0, much like Celeste (Shiv 2.0), she just has zero actual ways to counter her, and she counters the entire cast right now due to the fact that spirit damage is the majority of damage in the game, and Baba has literally not a single way to punish her at any point during the game. They even are trying to do the same lame balancing they did with Celeste, going 'oh giving them a tiny bit of negative bullet resistance will surely make her not overpowered'
yoshi if you hear meplease save meplease save me from playing standard to unlock hero for rankedget those people away from me
>>586856778Spirit AOEgger seethe lmao
Please seperate russians again I hate playing with them
>>586859609No, but yes this happened to me besides these other things I listed. Trying to unlock a support for ranked is fucking torture.
>>586859819>>586859695- Baba: Spirit Resistance scaling reduced from 0.7 to 0.5- Baba: Melee damage per boon reduced by 10%- Baba: Baba's Brew - Cooldown increased from 27s to 28s- Baba: Baba's Brew - Burn DPS spirit scaling reduced from 0.15 to 0.13- Baba: Baba's Brew - Cycle time increased from 1.5s to 1.6s- Baba: Granny Long Legs - Melee Resist reduced from 30% to 25%- Baba: Granny Long Legs - Debuff Resist reduced from 30% to 25%I like how they think literally any of these nerfs will do anything to Baba being broken.This is like, 'Adjusted Shiv's knife DPS scaling by .01 spirit scaling' levels of cosmetic 'nerfs'.They are also refusing to remove the pull on Threadsap despite it being incredibly OP.The only reason you don't see Baba in every single game is that despite being incredibly OP and easy to play, she's boring as shit to play.
>>586857189He's a bitch used to killing unarmed civilians and not going up against professional sociopaths like Doorman or gigachad rapists like Abrams, so he doesn't enjoy getting his bell rung
>>586859781Max pain battery then ult (get the one point in aura before you finish battery), you mostly play around your ult yeah either suiciding for walker or rifts.Get mystic slow for your 4.8k spike its super OP and slept on, with it you can actually catch people with giga nigger rape slow stacking
I used to despite Blizzard's method of nerfing which is basically kneecapping characters and letting stay trash for a few months, but Valve's>This cd increased from 30 to 31 secondsStarted to annoy me
>>586860015Boring as shit and looks retarded with a terrible voice and writingUnironically worse than Violet and I do not say that lightly
>>586860015>+0.5 HP Regenourghg
just had my first game where the only times i died were with the reju
>>586860298kill yourself violettroon
If you play the following characters you are likely to be suffering from an undiagnosed case of down syndrome, trisomy 18, and/or trisomy 13. Violet, Victor, Danny, Vendetta, Haze, Mina, Drifter, Celeste, and Pocket. Please seek professional help.
>>586860609>VendettaxD
What do i do if there's a Wraith raping the lobby
>>586860298Violet's voice acting is much worse than Baba's by comparison, but Baba's voice acting sucks for what it is supposed to be (baba yaga)
>>586858484I think it's implied that lots of people died because Silver couldn't kill Drifter because Shiv came in as his backup
>>586860242Blizzard: dmg buffed from 10 to 10000000000Valve: dmg buffed from 10 to 10.0000000000001
>>586860609AI-kun...
>>586860734go nextput wraith on the avoid listhope the game is actually kind enough to ban that faggotnigger hero
>>586860734
>>586860242Valve has kneecapped Dota heroes before, Tinker comes to mind after years of not addressing Rearm being the problem. Its really because Threadsap is Baba's identity, it allows her to b a tanky frontline annoying bitch. So they want to hammer down other shit as much till they need to nerf the real one.
>>586861030Tinker is a horrendously designed character and Dota is much worse off for having him in it. Baba is the same case.Also threadsap is not her 'identity', it's just an extremely overloaded ability like literally every single ability in her kit.
>>586858412Sure but Dynamo's a black hole and Seven existsDoorman>>>>>>>>>>>>Dynamo>Seven>Silver>Drifter>Shiv
>>586861107yes it fucking is she has spirit scaling resist for a reason
>>586861030Tinker is unironically more cancerous now than ever before.
I think Apollo's Riposte is in a good spot now.
>>586861107>ult requires her to go in>2 lets her go in but she isn't tanky>1 enables her to go in and be tanky as fuck
>>586860734A neat part of Deadlock is there are certain universal reactions you can use for any situation no matter what hero you're playing>Enemy team has a giganigger rapistBuy Cursed Relic>But I'm not a support!Buy Cursed Relic>But I need to deal damage!Buy Cursed Relic>But I need this other 6400 item!Buy Cursed RelicIt's not like League of Legends for example where building X support item or Y debuff item on Z hero is automatically griefing because they are outright incompatible. You can buy Cursed Relic on anyone and everyone, and you SHOULD buy Cursed Relic on anyone and everyone
>>586861297The problem with Deadlock is that Curse and Unstop are the two most important items in the game, which is the same problem Dota has.
>>586860734You need to talk to your team to focus the wraith.I will never forget the one game my team just unanimously decided to work together to hunt the wraith from minute 0.
>>586861181...which is... what? Which part of "foul-mouthed crotchety grandma" absolutely MUST have spirit theft? How is that core to her identity? Threadsap can apply a direct -5% damage debuff per stack or something like that and nothing about her identity would change. She would still be running around on her cuck chair spamming stomps forcing (You) to parry, effectively self-stunning by holding still for a second.
>>586848884This happens with my friend group as well, when it is just myself and my 2 friends that have played MOBAs before, we have way more engaging matches. If one of my friends that is bad at the game join us, the matches are usually one-sided or the rest of the team are people that don't know how to jungle so we hard lose. I didn't think there was this much of a drastic difference until that bad friend started playing with us more. Thankfully I at least get to be useful even if my team isn't because I usually get Rem and I love his gameplay loop.
>>586854048But this is how my deadlock looks already???
>>586858412If it's world of darkness/ chronicles of darkness rules, it would probably be Doorman on the level of a 3rd generation vampire/ something you cannot deal with as a player, then like a really experienced mage so maybe Calico(?), then arguably silver because werewolves are nuts, Drifter just slightly above or on the level of a Hunter with True Faith like Venator, then probably either endowment based Hunters like Grey Talon and Mirage, or a Changeling like REM and the rest sort of filling in as you go on a character by character basis (Mina, being a fledgling vampire, isn't really that much stronger than a baseline human and probably would get killed easily by Abrams, for example)
is it just me or is this REAL wip drifter interaction just as bad as the fake one where he tells violet "your art inspires millions you're already enough"
>>586859267Yeah nigga you still have to play and moveThere's no afk to win hero
>>586861242Her ult doesn't require her to go in, it just requires her to maintain LOS.>>586861181Why does she need to have free spirit resistance scaling when she literally will only build green and purple items? It's not like Venator where you are actively discouraged from building purple items because his kit only does gun damage, Baba gets an obscene amount of free spirit resist just from existing.
>>586861642No it's funny
>>586859267Stomp gives you free headshotsNot until Eternus 6It's absurdly easy to track withWall jump towards people and hold m1 it's not hard
>>586861642Those are nothing alike
>>586858412>She's probably the most powerful hero behind Doorman lorewise.that'd be Rem except he thinks like a child if he had the mind of Drifter he'd be worse than The Troubadour and Drifter combined
>>586861642is this aimed towards McGinnis
Hmmm yes lets make another mobile spirit tank but this one nerfs all spirit damage in the game by simply hitting people with her 1, which will itself scale her own spirit resist, making her functionally unkillable and completely kneecapping the damage of 95% of the characters in the game.
>>586858168stealing sinners only works against retardsbasically you want to have them farming different areas simultaneously. Use one on a heal creep, rotate, smash boxes and cast on into a room with boxes to double smash, cast another on the next waves heal creepIt’s called soaking and it’s what you would do on abathur in hots
>>586861297For how important Curse/Unstop are, I find it quite fascinating how the pros don't really seem to be bothering with it. In general I find it funny they seem to ignore team utility shit...I'm sure it's just useless stuff not as good as getting another 5% damage!
>>586861636On world of darkness powerscaling, why the fuck are werewolves so busted even if they just turned? Or is it just they are really good at killing shit but in exchange they don't get the reality bending bullshit
>>586861642I imagine McNiggy just stares at him the whole time as his bit falls apart
>>586862073pros are playing a different game from usthey dont need to use 6400 on curse because they can actually coordinate to focus down the fed enemy carry, in the matches we normies play we have to pay 6400 to do that solo because our teammates are all doing their own shit
Just had a bomb Giest call me useless :/
>>586859267>Kelvin>requires skillThe only reason people don't play him is because he's boring. He's like Baba in that he is broken as shit but boring to play so people don't play him as much.
>>586862221no she got wet thinking he was gonna rape her in a dark alley after the ritual
>>586861642why did they character assassinate drifter in the new conversations
>>586862216Vampires scale stronger but the average vampire (0-100) years gets their shit kicked in hard. But on the kick side elders (300+ year old vampires) will fuck up most woofs like its childplayThink of vampires like carries and werewolfs as tempo heroes if you're too moba brainrotted
Sex King
>>586862409they made him a worthless jobber lol
>>586848884Yes. I always get matched in a lane with our 2nd best player. Our weaker players get paired together in their own lane. If anyone lane swaps the game is over because the lane rapists who were supposed to go against me end up feasting on kittens in the other lane. If I swap to the noob lane we crush them effortlessly. Standard is kinda a clowny
>>586862340>but boring to play so people don't play him as muchhe's boring early when you have no agency but i find him very fun once everything is online and you get to play helicopter gunship simulator raining bullshit down on the enemy carries
he's so tuff
>>586859839is shiv 4.0 the man that fucked your momma?
>>586862371That works tooDrifter couldn't keep up with her
They should make Danny's Charged Shots count as both an ability and a gun attack and make it so Ballistic Enhancement can be imbued to it so it can get the Ability Range and extra damage so that the Gun Build can pull ahead of the Spirit build when they inevitably nerf it for being on Night Shit at all.
>>586862789What they need to do is make it so that his gun doesn't need to charge up to shoot, and the alt fire can be the wimpy little shot for last hitting things.Then, make it so imbuing his 2 or 3 gives you the range boost on the rockets.
>>586862921That would probably require re-coding the gun entirely since Fire Rate bonuses apply to how fast it charges each shot rather than how it works for normal guns. So I doubt that's ever gonna happen. Plus being able to zoom in is useful when throwing rockets down a long range so having the M2 be the wimpy shot would suck. But having Ballistic Enhancement on his 3 also apply to his rockets would definitely be a good idea.
always getting retarded morons in my team
>>586863178anytime I play there are 6 retards on my team
>>586863163The charge-up mechanic to the gun is just really unsatisfying to use and makes it awkward to handle. Just make it so that he has a lower fire rate to start with and doesn't need to charge.
>play da driftah>team does zero damage and there is never anyone suitable to kill>if i try to poke i just get jumped by their group>don't wanna spent the rest of the game farming creeps just to not fall off in economy>going afk and begging the opponent to go to mid bossthis shit is boring af
>>586863178thankfully i am not on your team
Deadman Danny cock mod waiting room
>>586860017doorman is an eldritch being and drifter says he loves to kill strong people when kills abrams
>>586863389You get the low prio you deserve
>>586863215
>>586863462i move a bit every 9 mins, learned from my mistakes
>>586863379Yes, but that would still require re-coding the gun and do you really think Yoshit being the absolute fucking BUM that he is would do that?
>seven isn't a m1gger bc spirit>infernus isn't a m1gger bc spiritthen wraith isn't a m1gger for the same reason. in fact most of the typical m1ggers are not actually m1ggers except for venator. no, m1ggers are m1ggers because their main gameplay loop is holding m1 and little else, not because they've got more orange in their damage output
>>586863421This but Kelvin
>>586859534It's because they keep nerfing everything except what actually makes her strong (threadsnap)
>>586863215same
>>586863569who is unc quoting?
>>586863568Definitely not. Instead he will add another Celeste to the game to prevent one of his devs from killing himself.
>>586857380what are you basing this off of? when he kills abrams he says he likes it when the enemy is strong
>>586863569Only people who complain about m1 is aimlets who main characters with I WIN skills.
this entire game's story is literally just>let's talk about vague thing...afterwards...
>>586863667Exactly, so realistically we could AT MOST hope he makes it so imbuing Ballistic Enhancement to Danny's 3 also makes it so the rockets benefit from Ballistic Enhancement too as a buff for Gun Danny without buffing the actual items and in turn potentially damaging the balance involved in other characters since that wouldn't require re-coding the weapon from the ground up.
Bros im still new but it feels im still not getting the gameI have won games and even unlocked ranked by now but im mostly concerned im not doing what im supposed to doAfter lane phase I just kinda wander over the map clearing mobs and clearing objectives while farming but im concerned that I may be denying my team souls or that im wasting my time or that I may not be pushing lanes enoughIs there a general priority if things to do in a match
vegas started complaining about wraithWraith nerfs coming soon
>>586863937>after lane phase I just kinda wander over the map clearing mobs and clearing objectives while farmingyeah that's what you're supposed to do
>>586863576Both of them and Seven and Venator too. All of the men actually, Mo got one recently at least.
The mid to late game has to be the most boring shit ever>uhhh just dance around breaking boxes and stuff until the one dumbass on your team decides to walk into their base get picked off and then mid boss is open then you lose
>>586862013shoot her in the head bro
>>586863937mobas aren't for everyone, no one will blame you if you quit
>>586863937Start playing a rapist hero and rape people instead of npcs
>>586864104Specific heroes can definitely go invade enemy side and look for kills, its just not something anyone can do without feeding. As long as you keep lanes pushed out, don't have downtime when you go farming/sinners, and pay attention to minimap to help speed boost for team/rift you will be fine.
>>586863937Literally turn on retard brain and keep farming.
>>586852470Ivy is overloaded with bat shit insane spirit ratios with 4 forms of CC, and the best healing ability.>2.2 ratios on ult and stone form>1.1 ratio on her aoe dps field>2 second stun on her stone form>2 second root on her aoe dps field>silence on her ult>damage amp on her and another player she drops in>20% firerate buff with 20% lifesteal, always online>Replicates healing with another player, lol>15% max health healing and 3 second iframe she can echo shardAnd yet, no one complains. Ever. Ivy is a testament to being Deadlock's fertility idol.At some point, players are going to figure out that if Ivy picks up a tank with mediocre damage that shits out CC and builds gun, she can, and will, stat check literally everyone with her chud bastard.
>>586852143movement maps? just go to the empty new york map and jump around with fast stamina for like 10-20 minutes. movement maps are a total meme.
>>586864279I dont want to quit the game is fun. I just want to make sure im not accidentally griefing my team.
>>586864490Why does everyone build her gun when she has good spirit ratios anyways?
>>586852776kinda genuinely impressive you've been mad about this for over a monthbut i bet a nigger faggot like me just doesn't get it. you HAVE to lash out at every single person that sleights you or sucks at the game
>>586863937i'm not good or anything but as i understand it, you generally want to push/fix lanes, and if you can't/there's no point doing that, you do objectives, while farming in between and trying not to get caught with your pants down by the enemy team, while trying to also catch them with their pants down. if you're in the mid game and you manage to kill like 2 of the enemy team, try to push for reju and then try to push into their base. i feel like that's the basic flow of things
>>586863814Hah, let's meet at the bar after the ritual...We'll talk about THAT...
Do you guys have any hope for the next ranked season?Personally I want them to disable duos
what do i do if my slowing hex literally cannot reach danny in the airno im not buying greater expansion on drifter
>>586859781>what's the game plan?
>>586865267Delete ranked. Return to clown fiesta
>>586864883Because everything but her ult is not hard to just get out of unless you're already stunned
>>586865267why does a beta test even have ranked?doesn't everyone defend the awful balancing and such with the game not even being out yet, that's it's an alpha or something?Curious!
whenever warden is good he's genuinely on the same level as shiv/celeste/baba but people aren't ready for that conversation
>>586864490>And yet, no one complains. Ever.I do
>>586865267>>586865396This season's ranked system was awful and all it did was nuke everyone's rank and make people have to climb (as in carry retards who suck at the game) up to higher ranks that they don't belong in. I only did my placement matches so that I could say I was here at the start, even though I was in Ascendant/Phantom before the 'matchmaking update'
>>586865430Its ok because hes le based john deadlock
>>586865449source?
>>586862216They're basically the autistic combat class with a fuck ton of ways to hurt you and survive, trying to take one on in combat even if they're a newer character is a death wish for most splats
https://files.catbox.moe/izdta2.webm
>>586865798Maddie needs to be hung from a tree for this, how the fuck is this (((science)))
>>586865798When are we getting this as a mod
>>586862424Well, depends on your blood Generation too. If you're a vampire with a generation that's greater than the number 5 or 6, you might still get shit stomped by those fucking woofs even if you're 800 years old if they get a proper combat turn in
>>586863453Being an Eldritch being doesn't make him any less of a professional sociopath, though
>>586864241Baba builds tons of anti-gun items because she naturally shits over spirit characters
>>586865798Welcome back Sans Undertale
>get warden>lose>get paige>winThis happened 6 times today, coincidence?
>>586865946The model exists so hopefully soon
mcginnis is the most rapebait hero not named apollo or rem in the game
>>586866452>play braindead hero that's made for literal retards>wini don't know anon, is it?
>>586865368that's why they just use vortex web to spam their combo, which is the broken thing in the game
I think I like Lashhttps://streamable.com/pfzb2o
>>586866830>only killed a single person from thislol
>>586866892Sauce?!
>>586864883Because her gun used to be a point and click laser, and Tesla became her core item. Now no one wants to move on from the Latina with a machine gun.Use her gun builds on any other M1's and see how it's meta defining shit. Tesla radiant regen, Spiritual Overflow Merc mag.All of those were Ivy builds that leaked into actual M1's and broke the meta.Play this game, look into Ivy's builds and just replace healing booster with swift striker while playing an actual carry, then see what happens.
>>586866914i was way behindand apollo was cosmeticbut they felt the AURA
>>586866970yjk
>>586866752Someone's feisty today
>>586865396In theory, because it's a beta they are fucking around in the background with how the ranked shit works + matchmaking algorithm. In practice who fucked knows lol.Game should have separate ranked ques for solo, duo and six stacks but who knows if they have the population to sustain that.
spirit is killing the game, gun and movement are trying to save it
>>586867240I would believe that if the game had normal and functional matchmaking for even a day
>>586867304The gun meta patch was the worst period of Deadlock ever
>>586867304this. buff wraith
>>586866970this is cute but every interaction I see between them in the actual game is Venator shotgunning Rem into a wall and squishing him like a bug
>>586867514https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/voicelines/?voiceline=priest%2Fpriest_kill_familiar_05.mp3
>playing some standard to unlock heroes>leaver every fucking game>always on my team
>>586867195i'm sorry, that was rude of me!
>>586864602I mean things like hyperline or lockify
>>586867631Was the leaver a Billy? Just had a match end where Billy got parried and quit
OUR DEFENSES ARE CRUMBLING!!!
I wish I could play 10 hours a day like MikaelS, i cannot stomach more than 2, at MOST 3 games of deadlock per day
Hero for this feel?
KILL THE ARCHMOTHER AND HER DISCIPLES
>>586868038Holliday
>>586867783it was a harrow, a viscous, and then an apollo. Three in a row. We did eek out a win in the last one though.
>>586867983Yeah of course they are, you made them out of styrofoam and the base guardians can't kill a single trooper
the requirement being wins and not games played is so asinine. winrates are generally around 50% which means on average you have to play a character 30 times to unlock them, which is a long ass time when you're playing shitlow unranked games that last on average 40+ minutes
>>586868146>two divorces>gayHolliday probably gets cracked hourly
>>586868345it's either that or you get absolute subhumans in rankedyou'll still get them but this at least filters a huge number of them
>>586864789yeah? there are tons of murderers in real life who don't do sexual crimes. also he's not a cannibal, vampires feed on humans naturally
How good is each rank in Deadlock?
>>586868536sentinel 2 is middle of the bell curve
>>586868536Not very
>>586868536According to statlocker, just being a frog puts you in the top 50%
>>586854048it's all fun and giggles until scout starts eating mags
>>586854048We have enough fagposting already
so when are they buffing honest man Danny? the flamethrower is ass and cant siege for shit
>>586868773He's canonically retarded so it works
>>586868536Seeker is the chad rank
>>586857275That is not geist
>>586868536>s tieracolyte, phantom, sentinel>a tiermystic, ritualist, eternus>b tierinitiate, ascendant, mystic>c tierseeker, emmisary
patch in 2
>>586868536your rank is always perfectly divided so that all the idiots are on your team, and the people who are competent will be on the other team.
IT'S HAPPENING
>>586868840Hopefully nevermost cancerous lane opponent in the history of the game and that's saying something
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450/view/680766201707627248it's up
>>586869563>Feeling GrimWait this one is real nvm
>lose 30 times to unlock ranked Oh yeah, it's gaming time
>>586869563they changed the dumb requirements at least yippie
When laning with a Harrow, how hard is it to tell that they are using their healing bullets on you? I get in this situation where I'm ducking / weaving to dodge enemy bullets, but then the moment the enemies back up the harrow tries healing me, then gets mad since I'm still ducking and weaving. Do I suck or do most players just instantly tell when the enemy backs up and they should stand still?
Do I grind out standard matches on Venator or do I pump to Venator tonight?
>celeste guttedbased>rat king buffedfuck you this walking haemorrhoid was still shitting out damage and being unkillable this patch
>This means that some players may see their rank actually increase rather than decrease at the start of the new season despite the soft reset.If this happens to you, brag about itBasically the game mmr saying you're pretty gud
>>586869406>s tier>no initiateGo brick or get bricked, bitch
>>586869563>This means that some players may see their rank actually increase rather than decrease at the start of the new season despite the soft reset.Luigi wins by doing nothing
wait wtf the changes didnt go through what was the update for?
>>586869563Oh hey I can play Vindicta in Ranked now with only 2 wins. God I suck at Vindicta, I hope my teammates enjoy my elo terrorism and my enemies enjoy the catharsis of bullying a braindead Vin
>>586869563>Unlocking a hero now requires 35 points, you will gain 2 points for a win and 1 point for a loss.Finally, I can play Silver in ranked
>>586869771>shitting out damageGrenade does nothing His gun is midRat swarms suck
>>586869762>Playing Harrow>Teammate stands still like a retard and gets hit by more shit because I am healing themPretend Im not here actually. Just trust that I will hit my shots.
>>586868536>standard andy obscurucelSSSS+++ilver tier
>No restriction on duo qYOU STUPID FUCKING NIGGERS
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450/view/680766308468391944?l=englishit's up too
>>586869947his gun is all he needsliterally a couple of gun items and he's top-tier, he can just go full tank besides thatand his grenade does work in lane, which is pretty much the only time it needs to
>>586869563>Serial feeders now unlocked for ranked?
>>586870049slowpoke
>>586870049Looks like mokrill is freelo again
they gave baba a jewish voice actress so nerfing her would be tantamount to anudda shoah
>>586870007i was playing dwifta early, dove a backline and fully expected to die as 3 other dudes jumped me straight awayfucking harrow pumped STRAIGHT STEROIDS into my veins and made me tank full combos from all three of them and get awayshit was so crazy it almost made me want to play harrow, but i cannot handle a hero with no 1v1/direct kill potential
God damn, I'm gonna have to lose 35 games on Solomon to unlock him in ranked? That's gonna take forever.
>>586870243Drumpf isn't in charge anymore they don't have to pander to Epsteinians
This changes literally nothing, again.
>>586870313>lose
So what's going to happen once season 2 starts?
>>586870354THAT WAS POSTED YESTERDAY THAT IS NOT NEW
>>586870049>>586870354that was last night
>>586870354>haha we totally nerfed celeste guys she's soooo bad now haha
item rework doko
>>586870313If you go 50/50 average then it will only take ~22 games to unlock a character as opposed to the 30 average matches before. Be grateful.
They should buff Silver next, I think that would be fun.
>>586870293When I play harrow my allies actively avoid my los
When are they going to fix the >if you're zoomed in and slam fire the camera will zoom out and then zoom back inbug for silver? its so annoying
Metro is finished, no more shields
>>586870530pretty sure that's not a silver specific bug, i got it earlier, tooonly dying fixes it
ITT: We pretend the biggest patch of all time just dropped
>>586869762You're not supposed to stop and stand still. I'm more likely to miss if you just abruptly stop.Though maybe limit random spastic jumping unless it's really needed
I am finished, no more shields
metro go play mokrill blyat
Playing against Wraith actually ruins my mental so much. I hate this retarded ass hero like you wouldn't believe
>>586870753LIFTING!!!LIFTING!!!!!!!!LIFTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>minimum 18 games on a hero to unlock it for rankedhonestly this shit just needs to be removed and they need to adopt the same system as dota.
day of the rope for 46% winrate noobs
>>586870753*Jumps like a chimp throwing cards at you*
Now make Brawl games count for a point if you can just feed 35 times your way into ranked anyways
>>586869563>No shields for the top ranksThis was needed, after seeing those 45% winrate Eternus players what the fuck were they thinking
>>586870863Not really since you can still abuse duo q, retarded they didn't kill that for phantom and above.
When will they fix the pings for abilites with charges? I hate pinging I have no grenades on Kelvin but the text says I do so people sperg out at me
>>586870835I genuinely don't get the issue here. Ranked quality will go down if you get matched with people playing on heroes for the first time. If you dislike Standard now you would dislike Ranked a lot more in those conditions.
>>586865267>disable duosso the only way I can play is dogshit standard?no thanks
Is Glass Cannon even still in the game? I don't think I've seen anyone build this in weeks
>>586869563>50% win rateLuckily I just got my Paige to that at 14 wins.
>>586867679i didn't know what these tools were, but this seems like really over the top unless you're eternus already. even dudes in eternus still fail at basic things like rotation timings and macro. I could see using these things but i think the amount of people running preplanned box routes instead of just freestyling and keeping an eye on the minimap is far less than you'd think.
>>586871008>Ranked quality will go down if you get matched with people playing on heroes for the first time.the new hero update literally proved this wrong>but I had people throwing on on VIOLEEEETTyeah at like seeker rank
HAHAHAHAHAH GET FUCKED NIGGERS I CAN PLAY SO MANY HEROES IN RANKED NOW FUCK YOU AND FUCK YOUR 15 WINS
>>586870863>I didnt grind ranked so my hideout is brickedpray for me bros
>>586865267Make only 3 subdivisions and each one be 1000 points. There is ZERO difference in skill between bat soup rank 3 and bat soup rank 4. Rank difference should matter and just be a glorified grind.
>>586871008somebody with 1,000 hours will be able to pilot a hero at an acceptable level for their rank, even with 0 games. it's reddit cope forced 50 meme believers who just blame their team instead of getting good.
is the game down or something?
I'm part of deadlock's history
>>586871045Last time I saw glass cannon it was a gun dynamo and he raped my entire team.
>>586871045i build it on apollo
>>586870835Oh I thought it said you lose 1 point for a loss. It's not that bad, I guess. It's better now, I think.
Finally...I can play my 10% winrate Mirage in ranked!
>>586871269EOS
>>586871008Ranked still has the minimum amount of hours played before you can play so meaning you should be playing with people who knows macro.
>>586871008>game quality will be better because somebody who has a record of 5-25 will know how to play the hero better than somebody who has a record of 0-0
>>586871042Fuck off friendslop duo abuser.
>>586870863>my hideout is gonna be plagued by a frog 6 plaque foreverso fucking embarrassing i should've grinded more
Do other players in your lobby see your plaque or their own?
>>586871317it is worse, well from my own experience i was throwing on a character i was learning and it took me getting those 15 wins to get a decent grasp of their kit but if i had been allowed in without needing the 15 wins i'd still be learning them in ranked. but i'm a new player
>>586869563Meaningful patch when?
>>586871513they see the hideout of the host, i joined my friend earlier and he had the hideout thing u get for the winter event that my hideout doesnt have
>>586871574you were jealous weren't you?
my heart...
For me it's 4v4. No need to think, just fight.
>>586871620i was.... is that bad? to covet the goods of my friends? to wish they were mine?
E6 chads where we at
>>586871638where'd she go?
>>586871710>t.average ARAM playerThat is, a "woman".
>>586869762>>586870007>teammate getting shot at by Abrams' 5dps pickle tickle gun from 30m away>disco serpentine breakdance levels of tomfuarkery trying to dodge the two pellets that MIGHT actually hit him>teammate facing the full brunt of the enemy team, Alamo D-Day Siege of Helm's Deep Mile High Club Veteran Speedrun Edition>will stand there like a goat and just accept their fate at the butcher block, or physically avoid you by running into the wrong alley like it's a game of tag and you have to pull off Celeste levels of schmoovement to try and chase them downnothing like hitting your teammate with vapors, watching them take 1 billion damage, and then run away from you, only to stare back at you through the wall like "ghuuu buh duhhhh herrlp mreee" as their health bar melts like butteri'm BEGGING you, settle down and have faithi picked the healer, i WANT to heal you, i will do everything in my power to keep you alivei would sooner die alongside you than ever betray the confidence that i'm (un)willing to support you because that's how teams lose morale, get mindbroken, and give up
>>586871620I'm malding that I didn't play during 2024 winter to collect the first snowglobe.
>>586870717>I'm more likely to miss if you just abruptly stop.I will now do this to mix up my movement timing.
>Boosted from Rat I to Sentinel II in the reshuffle
wut
>>586871763>i'm BEGGING you, settle down and have faith
^_^
>>586871856Just throw 40 more matches and you're golden, bro
>frog 2>but got bumped to frog 6I guess I take it.
Acolyte Chads? Stand and deliver
>I can select any character for ranked even though I only have 3 unlocked in this new system???????also they said you'd get deranked a bit but I got shot up 5 subranks?
I was Oracle before but then retards took my haze and I ran it down 50 games tanking my mmr then after playing placements I got into brick 6 and had to climb but I just couldn't care. 6 subdivisions is too much and there are too many retards here. Set everyone to 0 or just give me my main.
i was /here/
yoshi messed something up and you can play every character in ranked even if you don't have enough points
>all these shitter plaqueswtf is all of /dlg/ n00b?
>>586871763Why does the last bit of your post read like what Nurse Harrow would actually say?
>had Wraith unlocked for ranked before>she's actually LOCKED with the new systemtfw literally punished for having an above 50% wr
I got 500 free points from the rank adjustment. Thank you, Yoshi, I always knew I was better than the other mystic faggots
>>586872082sentinel 2 is top 50% chill
>>586872040post em
>>586871081hmm that makes senseI'll probably do the box routes and heal bats and figure it out from there
>was an emissary before beta season>finished first with bricklow six
>>586872053I just started but I can see the mistake. When I got to ranked since I have not unlocked it yet it says "3/3 heroes with 0 or more Points" So the requirement is 0 points at the moment.
>went from seeker to sentinelI want everyone who made fun of me to fucking apologise
>>586869563>Unlocking a hero now requires 35 pointsI love lying on the internet.
>>586872140>1 less wraith shitting up the matchmakingholy based
>35 points needed to unlock hero, says in patch notes>it's actually 40 in game
>>586872140yoshi knows you learn more from failure than success
Obscurus bros ww@
>>586872223>went from stone to bronzeThat's still the dumpster bro
it's not over yet, buckle up
>>586872301I still haven't unlocked ranked
who else
i don't know who needs to hear it but you can dispel apollo's anti-parry debuff. meaning if he's auto-piloting you can parry him for freemy two braincells finally generated that idea 20 minutes later after buying dispel for other shit>>586871856huh, blog says 35
>>586872301Here. I hadn't played since Street Brawl came out, no standard, and before that was May 2024.
HANK DON'T PLAY COMP HANK YOU CAN PLAY EVERY SINGLE HERO HANK
Huh? I can queue every hero now. I thought you needed 35 points? I have 0 games played on the highlighted heroes.
>>586872106>bricked hideoutits over
>>586872160I just had to double check on statlocker. grim.
>>586867514It's pretty funny since if they're on the same team he's basically a grandpa to him but if they're on the other side he will send that little stealing fucking shit straight to hell with no hesitation or apology
from seeker 3 to acolyte 6 :DD
>>586872428Time to try out Sinclair for the first time in comp
>tfw complete boomer gamer now>just mute chat and have fun playing in ranked lobbies
>>586872106what was the first vote? did i miss it?t. playing since june 2024
>be pigeon rank>now in Raccoon rank for season 2
>>586872472it's not grim, you just have a negative connotation with bronze because it's the lowest rank in every other game
>>586872547The one with The Doorman.
>announcement says 35 points>ingame says 40 pointsThis is gay as fuck. I have like 3 heroes suddenly not unlocked.
i placed like rit 3 with a 3-5 W/L ratio how are people in ranks lower than that
>>586872542zoomer trannies are not worth talking to, not a single funny thing in chat these days>>586872594Hmm, I thought that was just a release, don't remember votingt. Doorman main
>>586872587I don't know what other games you've played but my ranks have always been some retarded bullshit ever since they stopped using mmr as the main display.
>>586872587It is grim and you should feel ashamed of being lower rank than the average streaming foid.
I just didn't play enough ranked games I don't even think I played 30 bros..
>>586872082We don't play the game
>>586872729BEAT THIS MAN UP
>>586870354Literal 1% adjustments to Celeste and Baba lmao
>>586872406>I am content to remain anonymous
>>586872082Daily reminder this creature was in my phantom games.
>>586872729>oh my God, this Ixian won't cum!
>>586872693with rank shields people were climbing to eternus with a negative winrate if they just played enough. streamers have more time to grind than real people
I dont want to do placements because I'll just get placed brick 6 again
>>586872934Am I supposed to guess who the creature isDrifter? Bebop? Harrow?
>>586873052you dont need to anon click the thing that says join ranked to see your rank
>>586873063Are you blind? Look at the 5.1k spiritual overflow 0-4 Mo and Krill.
>>586872729show us his cock
>5 patches in 30 minutesi hate valve so much its ubreal these niggas get paid 1 million a year each
>>586854392overwatch
>>586873052I'm coping by telling myself I'm trying to unlock every character in standard before I start grinding ranked. Knowing full well I'm gonna place brick
>>586873130I don't want to get banned and it's pretty small because the erect version of the mod won't work..
600 hours grinding and finally i'm out of rat rank!!
>>586873143If you actually spend that kinda time learning each hero you ain't a brick. You would be top 10% based on game knowledge alone.
>>586873052You don't have to do placements if you already had rank last season you automatically get a new rank>>586873123Spiritual Overflow aside 0/4 isn't that bad of a statline on Mo & ShitThe deadbeats with 8+ deaths were a bigger factor in the loss because they're the reason most the enemy team is at 30k+ souls for being loot pinatas
The tf2 tubers are making fun of us again....
>>586873289who axed?
New RoyaltyIsHere video dropped, is he spitting? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnBpieBy2GY
Ranked points are still broken
>>586873213>too retarded to make abrams erectlel
I wish I kept my lower rank because I enjoy climbing, it's the only sort of metaprogression this game has right now.
>>586873289Who cares what a laughingstock says?
>>586873271I hope you're right. Right now I only have 5 heroes unlocked, I don't plan on touching ranked until I have like 15.
>>586873282Bro he did 5.1k, got poked out not even a minute into the game and just did boxes the whole game. He was non-existent.
remove every free unstoppable on all ults
>>586869563>not the item updateI sleep
>trying to grind out heroes for ranked>every single game is me playing coach an begging my team to not hardcore feed the whole match>half of the times they are shitters with 15+ deaths so its uncarriable no matter how much i try>finish game with 2x damage, souls, obj damage compared to the rest of my teami am so fucking tired. i want to say im just being salty or exaggerating but this is literally the formula of every single fucking standard match i had. Ranked is slightly better but only because they actually communicate at least.
>>586873631Doornigga randomly getting unstoppable makes no thematic sense. I think the rest of the free unstops are fine.
I dont want to add extra buttons I just want to make my pointy shooty thing passively stronger why must they complicate this shit
How hard is it to change a variable
>>586873667>every single game is me playing coachquit yappin. muted
Any #brickchads here?
>>586873667I instantly mute backseat gamers, and you get a report if you're whiny about it too.
>>586873484Shut up!!
>they took away 4 of my heroes for ranked due to the changeswtf, they should've at least made it so if you already unlocked someone you won't need to do it again
>rank resetwhy the fuck was i ranked up by 2 (TWO!!!!!) ENTIRE ranks despite having 9 losses in a row??
>>586872171postan
>>586873812Same, if you're good at a hero and got 15 wins with a high winrate, you get cucked. Some heroes I'm worse at took priority because I lost enough games on them to push me past the threshold.
>>586872171>only made placements>mystic IIWish I grinded more but the only 3 picks I had were pretty bad, didn't have enough time to unlock more characters.
>>586873667If you want to be a good "coach" then actually direct people towards objectives instead of being captain hindsight complaining about things that already happened, this is just horrible comms even in organized play.
>>586873749do you not remember when they broke Victor's ult after adding a single chair to the dining room, the code behind the game must be really bad
>>586873767sexo with el rem o algo
>>586872106>>586872040You think in like a decade accounts with these and the Christmas events globes would be considered rare and fantastical?
>>586873812you had 4 heros with exactly 15 wins and 4 loses? lol
>>586874110Probably, not in a monetary sense thoughJust "whoa, cool oldfag shit"
>>586874110I cant believe I ever let myself become obsessed with video game cosmetics
>people posting their season 1 ranks that aren't eternus 6do you all have a humiliation fetish?
>>586872040French IRL. French in-game.
>>586874110Valve cosmetics are not a retirement account
>>586870354>Spirit Danny nerfs in said patchNow buff Gun Danny with this, Yoshi; >>586862789 >>586863854
>>586874273they are for some 3rd worlders
>>586874263It's the opposite. If you're not Eternus, you're an employed and functioning member of society. Season 1 ranked is a joke, it's based on how much you can play.
>>586874263These are the people that call you bricklow. Im at least Oraclelow though
Post (you)'re roster with the new rules...
>>586873812>you will gain 2 points for a win and 1 point for a loss>There's clearly something wrong here...
Why the fuck does this shitty game keep wanting me to update nonstop
>>586874226>saying this in a semi-closed beta with 0 monetization
>>586872729How do I unlock this skin?
>>586874398t. pigeon pro
>>586874441Im speaking in general you fucking micro-transaction fomo obsessed asshat.
>>586874435Because valve has a direct channel update style instead of going through weeks-long QA shittery, which is based and makes me feel special.
>>586874110I have an account from when the game had 4 lanes but I didnt participate in christmas (was away for holiday related shit) and I 1 trick shiv and work a shitload of hours so I straight up had 2 heroes unlocked for ranked and couldnt get 15 wins in, is there anything I can cope with besides memories?
>>586874263>These are the people that call you bricklow. Im at least bricklow though
>>586874425I'm slowly unlocking everyone... I had Ivy unlocked before but the new rules undid that since I'm too good at her.
>>586869563>leaderboards fixedFucking finally
>>586872082yes, this is actually true of nearly every general on this site. the average poster is a mental retard and is dogshit at the game they're fervently posting about. the more confident someone is in their opinion, the lower you should assume their ELO is
>>586874569no offense, bro. i'm also a cheapskate. so i know the feeling well
>>586874612I got a direct project8 invite and played for a few dozen hours during the 4 lane shit, missed out on all the stuff until the latest big update. FOMO during a closed beta is the gayest shit ever.
>>586874263>He isn't obscurus Wrong move lil gup
>>586874425the last non-brawl game of deadlock I played was about a year ago, I am proudly non-calibrated for ranked
>>586874738>moneyNo you dumbfuck im talking how everyone is obsessed with grinding every little fucking event in every game because they cant miss out on limited time cosmetics. Also my money goes towards beer.
>>586874826Just let brawl count for ranked too
Its crazy how bullet/spirit lifesteal let you win lane for free.
>>586874826how long have you been on hrt
>>586870863>>586871162Genuinely there is no point to ever play again, I can never unfuck my account
>>586874951I dont believe you
I haven't unlocked rank yet
>>586874951Close quarters is far better value and basically statchecks people out of the lane.
Finished Oracle 1 New placement is Emissary 5 @ 675 points.
If I like teamfighting and big flashy skills, who should I play?
>>586874756yeah FOMO in general is gay as fuck but in an invite only beta is crazy. I got an invite for the marvel rivals playtest and they had a (free) battlepass you had to grind for an exclusive reward which was a nameplate and a blue venom skin like why fucking perma lock that behind a closed beta that needs an invite that was hard to get and also require people to play like 15 hours of it? God forbid someone wants a blue recolor.I just hope this doesnt turn into fortnite/cod/gears level of FOMO
>>586875159>shines in teamfights>has big flashy skillsCeleste
>>586874425I need to get wraith and graves.
>>586874459By unbinding your parry button.
I will never play ranked. I am 30 years old.
;_;
Slowing Hex and its counterparts should stop movement abilities already in progress e.g Infernus' sprint and Wraith's teleport
I will play ranked I am 30 years old.
how do i play miragei wish to build a future home for the djinn
>>586875361This final round of nerfs was actually quite bad for celeste. Don't believe people who said it's a nothingburger. She got hit hard.
>>586874959fuckin so long you don't even know
>>586875361On your way to ranked, no problem
So did everyone just get bumped up a division or 2?
Where is he
>>586875397arctic blast already does this
>>586875425Max ult first. Get unstop and later cheat death. Harass people and perma-limit test then TP away when you get pressured. It's impossible to kill you unless they stack multiple curses.
>>586875429>She got hit hard.ryona sex
>>586875425He's useless right now so just build utility and debuffs and be an item character
baba is still OP
>>586875505The lower ranks should have due to the influx of new (bad) players.Higher ranks should have generally gone down.The floor dropped lower.
>>586875505most people deranked
>>586875442No idea why it still groups standard and brool together in statsLeads to very bizarre displays
>>586875425Until they rework him? You don't. Any other answer is incorrect.
my rank didnt change (obscurus)
>started playing in august 2024>don't have the snowglobes because I took a break then>don't have the ranked plaque because I never calibratedfeels bad man...
>>586872082I don't play ranked but I'd fold your ass over the table and take you to town
You will regret staying obscurus during the beta S1 down the years
i play a match. it ends. there's an update. i restart. i play a match. it ends. there's an update. i restart. i play a match
>>586875879No, I don't think I will.
>>586875879Why would I regret that?
Im gonna play ranked this season
what does my top 5 say about me?
>>586875429She used to be doable for people with shit movement, but now you actually need to be mobile and hard to catch.
>>586875879Only Obscurusgods are getting the mysterious Ivy bikini skin when beta endsEternus guys get the platinum Abrams thong
>>586874263Season 1 Eternus was basically a testament to how much you play the game more than anything elseSeason 2 Eternus will be more legit
Chief Strikeswithagun is seriously an affront to the sensesI'm like 15 games in and i don't think i'll ever not be repulsed by his face being on my HUD the whole game
genuinely 0.1% chance we get next content update before late January at least but god it would be so peak to get the shop rework in the Christmas update.
>>586876013>harder to rank up in season 2>therefore requires more games>this is less grindy and more legit??????
>>586876013>Season 2 Eternus will be more legitwhy
>>586876083shields saved shitters
>>586875982HRT, somehow
>>586875982fag
>>586874425
>>586872174heal bats are the important one anyway. those have won me a few lanes i should have lost. i can't believe they buffed them, good bat routes already grabbed 3-4 at a time
>>586876084It's easier to rank down in the higher ranksIn season 1 you could stay in Eternus as long as you got the shield to protect your ass
my PERMANENT mark of shame... from only doing my placements and like 2 more games after....
baba is still op
games should be instantly terminated when a player disconnects and its safe to leave
>>586876278>>586875982Why are there so many mcginners? Fuck off there's no way you find that character fun.
>>586876285>yellow lane has like 4 easy apples for each side>green has like 2 for each side and they're annoying as fuck to grab>blue has nothing Yorkgods stay winning
why do people keep buying torment pulse? it's a meme item
>>586876397she is
>>586876397I barely qualify with her because I barely play her bro..
>>586876464Spirit has good on-hit effect items and torm pulse is an easy way to proc them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgFxeAq126g
>>586872678Nah he was a vote because I remember he beat that stupid cunt Paige by not even one percent when he released
wa tha mean
>>586875425the theory is he's a "brawl"-centric carry, who wants to use beetles and tornado to keep him alive in fights while he builds up his 3 for a massive burst of damage, and his ult to ensure he can show up to any fight (or escape, or to split efficiently, or gank, or to make crucial rotates, etc. etc.. it's a fast global freely-targeted hard-to-interrupt teleport in a moba, it's really good)dispel and debuff resist neuter the character though
>>586873289They're not even close to the same game and you can enjoy both>t. 7k tf2 enjoyer
a certain number of required wins should still be part of the system solely because you don't want people running it down just to get into ranked faster but this is generally finereally wish they'd add draft though if they're gonna insist on "you have to play this character specifically and get points on them to open ranked" only for the priority system to ignore that and give you some character you threw in just to queue
>>586872542Same but I dont mute, I just stir the pot by encouraging the obvious troll/retard and say "y'know, he kinda has a point..."
>>586876464I like Radiance
>>586876672The points system is an improvement but it still sucks. They should really just lower the requirement the more heroes you have unlocked. If I have 10 heroes unlocked I should be able to unlock an 11th with only 3 wins or something. It's not that hard to learn new characters in this game.
every carry hero in this game is hilariously overtuned. they are ALL good early game. Yes, even Seven is good. just because Wraith is superior dropping 1k damage bursts in lane doesn't mean Seven is bad. If they weren't so amazing early game it'd be a lot harder to complain about them. But for some reason yoshi has decided that these heroes cannot be allowed to be weak ever at any point in the game. they start strong and end stronger.
>>586876626you've been hacked. wipe your entire computer and dump it in the river.
>>586873693Even doorman mains like myself were confused by it since it's not like it really is all that useful at higher play, it had way better design when the channel was unstoppable to be sure your target fucked off for a bit rather than when it was occupiedThat said I've always wondered, with the wording of it, if a Sinclair took your ult and sent somebody on your team there, would you still be unstoppable while that was going on?
>>586873643item update is like 3+ months away minimum
>>586876672I hated dealing with people competing for the same roles in dota so I hope they never add draft.
Just had the most kino beginning of ranked>We get turbo stomped early/mid game>They take shrines + patron>Tell my team to HOLD around patron and play around my ult (victor ult)>We somehow managed to win with a massive soul gap + 3 rejuvs>Manage to reverse everything bit by bit>The end of the game has us suiciding into last stage patron in a desperate chaos to end the game before they respawn and rape usSomehow we won with a 31 - 45 kill line god bless retarded shiv and seven players
>>586874434are those all ranked/standard, or did you play some brool?
>>586876959>team with victor wins after a drawn out gamein other news water is wet
baba needs more nerfs
>>586875868>homoerotic fanficweird cope.
>>586877142...said the raped
>>586877010I've never played Brawl before, all these are standards (2 losses are from ranked placements)
>ranked is still win/loss and not performance basedkind of worthless then isn't it? if I go 0-14-3 with 0 damage or healing in all fields and win I get the same points as the guy who went 20-0-13 with top stats in all fields. same thing if we lose, that guy would lose as much as I did. According to the game we've at the exact same skill level.
>>586877446winners win, losers lose im afraid
>Still no item updateEOS soon.
New lystic dropped, is he spitting?https://youtu.be/LY1BB0g8p9w
>>586877446Performance based is a retarded metric sorry since it encourages kda whore sissy behaviourPlay the game faggot no one cares about your score
>>586877446>>586877489and yet if you play enough matches you can hit eternus even with a negative win rate
>>586875361>>586875429The problem with Celeste is that she has a 1, a 2, a 3, and a 4. And they can all do damage, so she needs another nerf.
>>586877615then why are you complaining? youre coping because you think you are better than your rank, but if both were true then you would be at "your correct rank" or better
>>586877603>Says the healslut who needs people to play the game for ximYou afraid you will be exposed for a boosted monkey?
>>586877603could you not factor in objective damage or other macro related things into your calculations? I agree strictly kda based would be pointless but that's not what I'm arguing for
>>586877615but if you're good you would just have a positive winrate and climb therewhich you did, right?
>>586877489But someone who loses 35 games (0 wins) can now unlock the character for ranked, so how is that better than before?
>>586877603Trvke, some games are wone because of the guy who's forced to lane janny and dies for walkers
>apollo 60% winrate in top 1% after the buffsi thought good players understood to just dispel/counterspell the riposte then parry him?
>>5868777802 weeks
>>586877730Eternus being nothing but carryfags forced to build an actual team would be pretty funny, true
Mysticbros, how we feelin'?
>no new patch for 4 months>4 months>4>monthsLMAOOOOOOOOOO HOLY FUCK DEAD GAME
What the fuck is going on in this match? This haze spent most of the game sitting outside our base in yellow lane, shooting people on zipline and then running away. She did nothing else
>>586877712>then why are you complaining? youre coping because you think you are better than your rank, but if both were true then you would be at "your correct rank" or betterI'm simply confused as to the merit of this ranked system I never said anything about any of that I'm sensing some projection here...>>586877761I did my placements season 1 and then never touched ranked again. Maybe I'll try it this season since standard is such a mess
>>586877795>counterspell the ripostelearn2read nigga
>>586877907>4 monthsyou don't know thatit could be much longer
>>586877446valve tried performance based before but it doesn't really workin dota 2 people would make a smurf account, pick Zeus which has a global "damage everyone for 600" ult, then just spam that shit off cooldown. According to the performance they were excellent players, having top 0.01% damage in a losing game.The ranked system would basically go "Send this man straight to eternus."Performance based systems basically open you up to having the smurfers try their damn hardest to game the system to get as much MMR as possible and it's usually not a good experience for the other people in the match since it leads to shit like spawnkilling for more stats.
>>586877921Proxy shit if she was shooting troopers downBad strat but it can work if the enemy team doesn't understand it
>>586877907we had multiple patches throughout last season you fake doomer
>>586877907Thats not how this works.
statlocker app is completely ruined, who shipped it with this CSS? AI sloppa?
>>586877760Not really since it over-values heroes like Wraith or Vyper who shit out damage numbers/obj damageThink of garbage like bomb geist where you can get 100k+ player damage and still lose gamesThere's a lot of heroes that have padded stats as well that don't reflect actual in-game impact, pocket is a good example since even a retarded down kid can get good damage on him by pressing 4.
>>586877789are you complaining about unlocking ranked or the points system in ranked? make up your mind
yoshi has once again increased mo into dangerously cheesy territory and I am making it everyone's problem
>>586877869>This is when you remember Crayon the first eternus abused tanks like billy to get to Eternus.
>>586877603>Performance based points encourage you to try hard the entire match.>w/l based points encourage retards to throw harder to end the game faster.
>>586877446did you ever consider why your dogshit idea wouldn't work?also if you are better than the lobby you will perform better and win more. stop coping and git gud.
>>586878198>>586878179
>>586876364>mark of shame>being top 15% of the playerbasewhat's with the larp
>>586878179I'm NTA.But I think "X wins to Plat this character in ranked" is better than the points system. Because someone who goes 0 wins 35 losses on a character doesn't deserve to play that character in ranked just because they spent 35 games in standard losing.
>>586877615Ok so go ahead and do itNot a single person who posts this shit is Eternus"ermm I COULD hit eternus POTENTIALLY with my 45% winrate... okay???" go and do it then
>>586878446yeah well I think it should be 35 wins
You have a baba victor paige on a streak on the enemy team, what do you buy
>>586877446>BROOOOOOOOOLERS get more rank points because they have more kills despite them barely contributing to the win>lane janny who keeps your walkers alive and denies the enemy item slots, who is only present for important rift/mid fights gets less points even tho he's the major reason you wonit would only take 20 seconds of thinking to realize why your suggestion sucks
>>586878446im currently 3-9 on an unspecified hero which would be 15-45 by the time i've unlocked the herois it ok for me to queue ranked with my 25% winrate? :)
who else /didn't give a fuck about season 1/ here
>>586878634Anti healSilencer if m1Curse if I'm util hero
>>586878634glass cannon
>>586878634>there's an enemy X going berserkcurse
>>586878634Healbane Decay if i'm a supportCrippling and/or inhibitor and/or toxic if i'm a gun hero
hey why is vindicta getting assassinate every 2 fucking seconds or is that just her regular shots
>>586878847>>586878847
>>586878840babied character, gets charges on her ult which is just better bird
>>586878634Antiheal, rebuttal, dispel magic, curse if Victor is getting too cockyMaybe spellbreaker too
>>586878818>Curse Baba>It gets reduced by 45% from her long legs
>>586878634Silencer.
Whenever there's a Violet on the enemy team I always hard focus themYes I did just dive at you through your base guardians to ult you 15 minutes in, play a real character next time
>>586876871this game doesn't really have roles though
>>586878953Doesn't curse remove active effects barring unstop
>>586879038it does but the debuff resist still applies to curse so cursing baba in long legs only has like a 1.8 second duration
>>586878953It removes the legs bro
Bros when do I ult as Ivy?
>>586876959>victorto be honest if they couldn't manage to win that before you inevitably came online they deserved the loss
>>586879153When the enemy team rotates on you split pushing.
>>586879150>picturing baba getting her legs cursed right the fuck off and skidding to a halt in front of bebop
>>586878973I exclusively play bullyable characters, thank you for indulging my interests
>>586879153don't fall into the noob trap of only using it to save teammates, it's an overpowered engage tool, dropping a burst hero or frontliner into enemies is a free killof course you still want to use it that way sometimes but it should be secondary most games
abrams doesn't do ANYTHING bro what do you even do on this character
>>586879798You gotta see what that book can do
in case you missed the bus:>>586878847>>586878847>>586878847
>>586878187Will he make grief builds for this game too?
>>586876464The hp is good
>>586876152Adding on, an influx of new people playing ranked for the first time skewed matchmaking to be far lower than it should (you cant always carry shitters). That and shields meant they did not always fall to where they should be. This might explain other findings, like why acolyte and seeker had disproportionate amounts of reports.
>>586877878about the samewas hoping for a full ranked reset but whatever
>>586869563I'm at work right now, do past losses contribute to unlocking heroes? I was at 12/15 wins to unlock Seven from back when the game had 4 lanes, haven't played him since, meaning that I'm probably gonna have him and more heroes unlocked when I get home.
>>586878941>ultra precise los vs aoe drone strikeretard
