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The online mode sucks and you shouldn't play it.
>>586952494I don't.Played one match and that was enough.
should I play 7 before 8? I only played 4 and zero so far. Ive read a lot of anons shitting on 7 but apparently there were issues on the dev cycle so it was a miracle it even sold as much.
>>5869527527 is fun, especially the dlc, but it's piss ez compared to previous titles and 8the story is all over the place but the game is very charming anywayprobably the most quotable game of the series
>>5869527527 is good but 8 is better in pretty much every aspect, if you play 8 first then 7 will feel underwhelmingAlso play 5
«Lead to all Units»«Authorizing Contract #503»«Destroy All Sotoan Aircrafts»
>>5869527527 is a good game but 8 touches the peaks of the PS2 trilogyAlso play 5. You are missing out big
>spawn in>get immediately dogpiled by 75% of the enemy team>accomplish literally nothing because, again, 75% of the enemy team>still lose because because my team cannot kill the ONE SINGULAR ATTACKER that’s cleaning up pointsJesus fucking Christ warfare is fucking awful. Two nukes wasn’t enough
>>586952752I would play 7 before 8 because you'd enjoy it more and also there's some recalls in 8 about it.But at the same time, there are a lot of recalls from 5 both in 7 and 8I would play 5 - 7 - 8
Controller battery ran out in a middle of a dogfight and I just crashed in to a mountain. I don't think there are many more embarrassing ways to go.
>>5869527528 has characters and narrative points in it from both 7 and 5 and they'll lose impact if you're not aware of their history. As anon said: 5, 7, and then 8
>just farming scrambles and emergency sorties>Averaging ~12 games per hour>LoadsamoneFeels good bros
BAMCOOOOOO
>picrel talking about the huge M28 battleI hate these fucking PW larpers man. When we come down to it, the huge aerial battle is what PA envisioned with Area B7R on the PS2 but didn't have the technology. >BUT NO. IT'S PW THAT SAVED ACE COMBATfuck off
>>586954080M28 isn't even a very good furball
>>586954080M28 isn't even a good giant furball mission. Half the mission is chasing down slow moving bombers.
>>586954128>>586954197It's 10 mins of bombers and 8 minutes of pure furball, then topkekwhat do you mean
>>586954363>It's [not furball] and 8 minutes of pure furballs, then [not furball]Gee golly wilikers
>>586952752If you play 8 before 7 you'll never want to play 7. It's good but it doesn't reach the heights of 8 until the very end (and DLC missions)
>>586954594>If you play 8 before 7 you'll never want to play 7This is retarded. Even with 7s narrative issues it's still good and worth playing.
>>586954080it was a throwaway joke, i think you might just be autistic anon
Hortus Regis Alti might be the best song of the seriesI love Moon 11Nuke Toronto
>>586954594>>586953604>>586953173>>586952839>>586952837Understood. Looks like a good time to actually replay the whole franchise (the ones i can of course), and end up in 8
You have to be really bad at the game to have 8 minutes of furball. By the time the score attack portion starts it skips instantly anyway because I have enough points from bomber farming. >>586954363
>>586954707The story is very fragmented and schizophrenic because of it being through dev hell. 8 is much better in that standard and it will disappoint if you experience it first.
Do you get the yellow currency only from supply drop dupes?
>>586954970yes
>>586955002It's going to take forever to buy even one thing :-/
>>586954948I think you might be retarded. I killed all the bombers before Kate shows up, being at already 100k points when she pops out, and then you get the 8 minutes of furball before the second savian group shows upI bet you never cleared the score requirements before the mission update if you spew bullshit like that
Sotoa made one good thing and it's the F-16 paint job.
why did bamco not translate patchnotes, did they think it was fine because they used a loanword
>2 hours to patch the gameI love ue5
>>586955267A lot of the Sotoan skins are good.
>>586955136Did you actually play the mission anon? Or do you not comprehend that B-1s are also bombers?
>>586955592i uninstall and reinstall UE5 games on patch dayIt's faster (i have 2.5gbps)
>>586955592you need additional 150gb (or whatever the game's size is) free on the drive that hosts the gameotherwise it'll attempt repacking on the next suitable driveif it's taking that long your secondary drive is a HDD I take it
>>586955592>UE5does that mean we will get a VR injector soon?
>>586955626What? I killed the B-1 BEFORE kate shows up.You have no idea of what you are talking about. There's no "score attack" skip. You get 8 minutes of pure furball, and it gets even more hectic when Magnolia shows up.Your are calling out your bullshitting yourself
>MVP from scramble and esort don't count toward the 3 you need for the eventTHEN WHY THE FUCK DID YOU MAKE THIS EVENT ENTIRELY FOCUSED ON THOSE TWO MODES YOU FUCKS
>>586955857>it gets more hectic when magnolia shows up>pressing missle to win is so hectic amirite guys?This mission is a shit furball, keep coping. Even ac7 had better furballs.
did the server die
>>586955874Stop caring that much about the online mode. It's never going to be good.
>>586955789Went to 20mins now, but i still hate ue5
>>586956253lmao you are trying so hard
>>586956373>duuuude just like... stop caring... brooo...
>>586956450>cant come up with a response>think of trans peopleWhat leads to this? Obsession?
Feel bad now?
m28 is good from a vibes perspective but it's not even close to the best furball in the series, weapons of mass destruction
>>586956763Not at all.
I never touch russian planes in campaign, but they're so fun in multiplayer.
>>586951997As always if you plan to join please add something in your player comment to identify you as a thread guy
>>586956763only in the sense that if she dies she doesn't get to suffer furtherit builds character, you know
>>586956763I feel better
The event challenge for getting ground kills in an attacker, is that warfare only?It’d be retarded if it was
>>586954080Quite the odd comment considering that Showdown mogs M28 so fucking hard that it's retarded to even compare them.
>>586956763>hasn't even finished flight academy>commander crashed on takeoff>presumably got told by some Enso slimeball "you should enter the active combat zone, it'll be fun">actually does so and gets her entire squadron of nuggets killed and her two senpais shot downMavisimen was either incredibly naive or incredibly stupid.
>>586956763raped by several angry FCU marines award
>>586956717You are the one moving the goalpost.>its bad because of bumbers>uuuh actually there's no furball if you kill bombers>uuuh actually yeah its still not fun because ESMYou already outed yourself either as a retard that doesn't know what he's talking about,or as a raging contrarian in bad faith, engaging with what you would say is just wasted time
>>586954080God I just know it's the one autist in this thread who keeps seething at the merest mention of PW.
>>586954080I don't know why people even compare the two. M28 isn't trying to do the same thing as Showdown was. I'd say M21 is closer.
>>586957226>and her two senpais shot downThey were dead as soon as they took off, there was nothing that could've prevented their fate.
>>586955789That's fucking retarded.
>>586957226>commander crashed on takeoff"""crashed""" you mean remote controlled into ground by enso
>>586957439The wonders of technology
>>586957316Multiple things can be true anon.Mission is more bombers than furball.Furball is also diminished by ESM.Therefore it's a bad furball mission. No amount of seethe is going to change that.
>>586957482Sure, but she didn't know that. Which arguably makes it worse that she took a whole squadron of potentially flawed planes into an active combat zone with no training.And while Enso probably would've remote-ejected her if she refused, it's pretty clear from her dialog she didn't even consider doing so.
I NEEEED the Sundowners paintjob. It's just way too cool.
Reminder that if you got MVP>in a party>with EW on your team>using Su-34, Su-57, Mig-31, Typhoon or other meta planesYou didn't get MVP.
>>586958163Nah, I got MVP, you're just mad.
>>586958504I am mad, but your mvp is still worthless. Post real MVPs.
>>586958163You'll just claim that whatever plane that we were flying was meta.
>>586958610You speak like a migger. Nobody is going to claim F-4 is meta.
>>586958737>Implying you wouldn't have said that we didn't get MvP because of +range HVAA
>>586958737>fast>UGBs>HVAAs>MGPs>looks cool>Phantoms PhoreverYeah, it’s meta
Is 2AAM useful for anything other than shotgunning AI planes?
>>586958925+range HVAA on a multirole is clearly off-meta when the meta is LAAM on fighter
>Finally decided to raise Pakfa since I keep getting mogged in warfare>suddenly no Arsenal Bird emergencies despite haunting me for WEEKSokay, how the hell am I supposed to farm XP now?
>>586958968No.Well, maybe helicopters
>>586958968The better question is if 2AAM is useful at all
>>586959110desu I have never touched it, I just imagined it might have had extra range or damage in compensation to having just 2 missiles.
Which Sotoa squadron would've been more likely to switch sides and actually help on mission 28?
>>586959057Just take it to Chandelier and Alicorn. Don't listen to anons that get upset when you don't take Su-25 to them.
I like SAAMS
I wish scrambles/emergencies counted for MVP,my MVPs per sorties on my stats page look pathetic since I learned about party search
>>586959057Take your shitty metafag plane. I literally do not need you to clear alicorn or chandelier.
>>586959209Ventus. You have to be too brainwashed to get accepted into any of the Lux Lunae squadrons.
>>586959234actually i still need to farm my 34 and 25 so it's fine, finally got a chance to do that, but now my T50 is stuck lv1
>>586959205It gets better reload and slightly better homing, like a MSL, but with worse range and damage compared to 4AAM and 6AAM, and these are already pretty bad AA SPW too. I really don't know what PA was even on when doing these.
>>586959057your game has been bricked due to skill issue
>>586954080Why does PW inspire such autism? It was a decent attempt at an Ace Combat game with a few stand out aspects, nothing more.
>take attacker to warfare>bomb for a bit>entire enemy team descends upon me>start circling steadily at around 1000km/h>literally cannot be killed, each missle flies past even with focused targeting bonus>3 mins later>my teammates finally decide to help>they come by, get killed immidiately>we lose>I'm still circling, untouched
>>586958968Humiliating shitters.
>>586959624They wouldn't be so bad if they didn't have lower range than the other XMAAs for seemingly no reason.
>>586959797I see more autism from niggas bitching about PWfags than I do from actual PWfags.
>>586959057Use USB sticks to raise it up to level 10, then just use it in Warfare.
>>586959378Yeah they'd probably probably like you if they see that you at least try to spare the chicks.
>>586959983Do I need to lv 20 it or is it fine with 15? I'm running low on zollars currently
>>586959209If anything the question should be which of the squadrons that help us in M28 would be fighting on the side of Sotoa if things played out differently? That was clearly what was intended with those seperatist/independent squadrons but they didn't have the time to make it work so they just made them all choose us by default.
>>586959314Anon do you think SAAMS would be good to counter the Su-25 and other aircraft with tons of flares?
>>586960440QAAMs are pretty parts reliant so you really want all 4 arms slots. But you can scrape by with 3.
>>586960830What parts do you even want beyond guidance? Lifetime is a meme, Speed is counterproductive.
>>586960956You want both guidance parts, the lockon range/speed part, and either the lifetime or the payload part.
>>586960792Not really. Flares override SAAM guidance like everything else. I guess maybe there might be some edge cases were the flares expire and then your SAAM starts chasing the important target again.Personally I think that you need to be a fool to enjoy trying to PvP with direct pursuit missiles in a game where aircraft have 30:1 thrust to weight ratios and can actually fucking pull higher G turns than the missiles. I think focus on PvP modes should be abandoned in pursuit of more entertaining collaborative PvE modes, and that anyone who insists on trying to PvP with this combination of flight model and netcode should just use the laser.
>>586961453got it, what about maneuver parts?
>>586961594BROS(mandatory on everything) and then either FAPD II or SM II. I personally prefer FAPD but it's up to you.
It's so fucking peakhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN7hji04crkIs 3D rumble worth playing?
>>586961673right thanks
My favorite moment in Scramble is when the plane I am pursuing drops flares, which have an area of effect so big that it fucks with your missiles even when they are behind you, for the 3rd consecutive time, only to die to something you can't see moments later.
>>586961749Only for HERE COMES THE BOOM.
>>586962468HERE COMES THE BOOM
>>586955267That skin is usually the enemy faction F-16 skin in every numbered entry.
>coster doesnt play "comona" on the radio during M21Missed opportunity, that guitar riff is right up his alley
Jackpot 9 is cute! Cute!
>>586963863Jackpot 9 I know it's you, stop forcing this.
>>586963863I love itMore
>>586963863>>586964030You ain't slick Betty
>>586963863Rex only has eyes for tasha
Got 2 emergency sorties today and they were both Chandelier...what's with that forlorn choir song anyway?
>>586963863Jackpot 9 deserves more love. I never really liked Kate, she's a little too stern for me, but 9 is the princess you get to save.
the leaked planes included an F-5 right?
Bros wtf is going onThe JASDF uploaded a video using Everflow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjmGL7xzsOIAnd the official Bandai Namco channel put out a music video for Zerohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ohl-ZN2yBSE
>>586965121check the thread buddy
why don'T they just drop a bot in the lobby when someone leaves during mm
>>586965349Didn't see it linked anywhere
Have you guys gotten any cool pilot outfits yet, my guy still looks like discount Leon Kennedy
>>586965004lollmaoYou will get a renamed F-22 and you'll be happy.
>>586966214i like my edgy guy
>half the players end up with 4k points in alicorn and chandelierIts based and LAAMpilled...
>>586966659I haven't gotten any good pants yet so I'm sticking to the flight suits for now
>>586961749It's fun yeah, you can just turn off the DFM toggle and play it normally
Why do none of the alternate flight suits have their sleeves rolled up? Only the nugget suit has them rolled up.
Is there a database for all the different clothing items?
>>586966751>ea36 does nothing but except being an ESMslut for our miggerIts too LAAMpilled...
>>586967195You can look through them if you check the drop rate menu on the tickets.
>warfare>die to better plane with QAAMs / HVAA / SASMboring
There have been 3 world wars in Ace Combat lore and we didn't see even one of themLet that sink in
>>586964547Tasha is for Coster. Kate is for Rex.
>>586957226She was both.>>586957257Shame she wasn't captured by the Immortals and turned into a mascot. Forced to endure all their crazy death defying stunts and be left as a ptsd riddle mess by the end.>>586963863and later that night Kate made sure to remember that Rex belonged to her by crushing his pelvis.
>>586964547Tasha is his adopted daughter. He makes model planes with her in his spare time.
>>586966751you can even be a LAAMer spammer and drop decent pointage on emergency sorties. it's purely mental retardation
I wish they gave the song name at the start of the online matches.I didn't play 1/2 and the non-mainline games so I'm just left wondering which ones they're from.
>>586968001>HVAAHonestly amazing how the netcode straight up can't deal with these.
>>586968074irl the powerful nations use proxy states to do war for them and only fight each other when they have tomakes sense that as mercs we generally only get sent to do the subversive naughty stuff (or fight against it)
>>586968074Those wars also had ace of aces, but they died, so their game never came out.
>>586969276yeah that's another thing that PA should take into account. all the high scoring aces irl eventually just died themselves. there were like, a french guy and maybe a british dude that became aces and lived, 99% of them died. we need an AC where we die at the end
>>586968197I'm pretty sure Coster likes them with a little bit more moustache.
>>586964598lamentation for the emmerian pilots that have to endlessly shoot down cruise missiles until it's defeated
>>586969557Coster would be too autistic to notice if Tasha hit on him.
>>586968074osea vs yuktobania might as well be a world war
>>586969557Stop projecting, anon.
>>586966659You are that one gif! Big Fan!
>>586969161It's japcode. It assumes that all participants are practically in one big LAN party.
>>586969980whuhwhat gif
I see a lot of fanart of the team. So we finally have non-cookie cutter annoying tropes and actual characters instead?
We didn't fight 66th, 88th, 110th, 130th and 170th shadows.The DLC will be about those
>>586970039
>>58697022866th devil shadows would make a good boss fight
>>586970170go back
>>586970170pretty sure that was the entire point of them integrating the stupid in-game cutscenes and what not. seems pretty successful too, normies love em. personally i prefer the autistic, maladjusted manchildren we usually get, but at least the game is still good and the more money PA gets the more ace combat we get
>>586970231>>586969980>that one gifIT'S EVOLUTION, BABY
>>586970228If they don't have a name, they're all useless, hopefully we'll meet toprak's younger brother or something.
>>586970535Yeah I'm not complaining. The same Pixy pic used everywhere and the forced AC7 waifu was getting sad.>>586970401never
>3/3 MVPsMan, finally. I got two a couple hours in and then I spend 20 sorties just barely missing MVP for 2nd overall. Brutal. I guess everyone's really trying at the moment.
>>586970552>tfw you get MVP with the F-4E
>>586970231>>586971415> Lets make the bad guy and the one you are supposed to hate cool as fuckNice
>>586971530>make the bad guy look cool as fuck>no, you won't be able to play as them>make the "good guys" look and act like dorks.why.
>>586971664There were several /pol/ screenshots that explained that quite in detail. But I lost them and cant remember enough to write a proper explanation
>>586971664military forces intentionally design their uniforms to look cool because the average person is a moron attracted to shininess. some of them just have better designers than others
lost 7 warfares in a rowcant hit a fucking thing and always get swarmedpay to win bullshit everyone with SASMs with infinite lockFUCK THIS
>>586972165Yeah, I know that's how goes irl, but when it comes to media, I find being boring is a greater crime than being evil.
>>586972754they could make good guys look cooler for sure, but most game designs tend to draw from real settings. so like in Killzone, they're obviously going for an allies vs axis look there and the nazis are well-known for being fashionistasgood guys tend to have cool looking spec ops in video games, but the rank and file are typically kinda boring i agree, because nato rank and file are historically kind of drabi think the things that make bad guys look cool, like trench coats, masks, glowing goggles, etc are just "evil-coded" now thanks to the authoritarian regimes they're associated with irl
trying to get a friend to play AC3, what's are y'alls favorite order of routes to take?
>guy named Dorito>flying an F-15If you're in here, I want you to know I'm very disappointed in you.
>>586973538I finished my first playthrough last week and just went full UPEO. I'm taking recommendations for my next playthrough.
>>586973538You playing this? https://ac3uplink.com/
>>586973538i went full dision my first playthrough. he seemed like a real one
>Oh, this? They call it the Arm of Hope in Belka.
>>586973602According to anons here every plane is a delta wing, so.
>>586974489Well its wings are technically a triangle shape?
>>586959797for me it lacked airplane and special weapon variety which they never added upon post release even with the DLC. Horrible 2 seater variety which is odd because they made the WSO an actual character.
>>586973602maybe he's a fat guy with broad shoulders and a thin waist irl so that's his real nickname
now what?
>>586975081Now you rest.
>>586975081Now the event for 100k zollars.
So what's the deal with Comona? This place has showed up in just about every AC game I've played and has been under the control of Osea, Usea, Yuktobania, Sotoa, Erusea, and probably several others. Who actually owns this place? How the fuck does it manage to continue functioning when it changes hands several times per war? I just bombed the shit out of the place in AC2 and I don't even know who's controlling it in this game or why.
>>586973621>>586973868telling him to do UPEO is my first thought but it unfortunately doesn't have the same effect with the Dision reveal in the GR routes imo. but on the other hand the endings for the GR routes are too much of a mindfuck for a first playthrough>>586973656I tried that and it was okay but nah. the fact that I can't change the bumper and trigger binds is an issue so I'll just get my buddy to get Duckstation
Air fryer status?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvXkjVqUEgg
>>586975801i just winged it on the first playthrough in AC3, getting specific endings is for after you figure out what's really going on
>>586975863when I played that mission I was honestly more worried about the space elevator to even concern myself with the lives of some soats, so I didn't even realize they were being boiled to death
>>586976238I was kind of hoping to find a way to neutralize the ship but let the rest of the crew boil alive.
>>586975327i'd imagine it's like how half of Kazahks irl technically live in China, even though they have Kazahkstan. the people that live there don't really give a fuck what the global powers call it on a map and they don't care how those powers divide the borders. they live on that land regardless
>>586976238same, i heard them choking and figured it was just chatter from being attacked or on fire or something
I didn't realize we actually meet the GOAT during the belkan war. This is my 15th playthrough...
>>586965004According to Anon, these are the planes present in the files.
>>586973538GR -> Ouroboros has one of the most brutal endings
Hi
>>586978714>every team is some variation of the same 4 planesNuke online from orbit. Make the tonitrus spears look like a firecracker.
>>586978676my belovedthe starfighter is cool too
i keep having unworkable ideas like "ace combat style visual novel"even if the concept is workable, i can't write for shit
>>586979517oh so like 3?
>>586979517?
>>586975327Comona is kind of interesting the TLDR is its Strangereal Cape Canaveral, but what makes it interesting is rocket based space launches in Strangereal is kind of old fashioned in the 2000s, and by the time of the modern setting even mass driver like on Tyler island are being phased out in favor of the ISEV. What keeps Comona still relevant is its proximity to the FCU and its allies and as we've seen in these games its been very easy for hostile forces to take over or at the very least besiege the elevator so it makes sense to keep Comona as a back up means of space launches thats closer to the FCU than Erusea.
>>586978714I like putting the Big red circle over the tiny green Hexagon
>>586975327Its just a very good spot to launch rockets from.Its controlled by the FCU, occupied by sotoa and the coup detat, and in the future it was bought by Neucom
>>586978676I'd like to point out that PA likes to substantially alter the look of the PAKFA vs. the Su-57, so it's not just a reskin.
>>586981131
remember to take the fishbedpill
Finished everything except the 50 sorties 11 to go, will wait until daily rollover. Got my Su-57 to 20, finally got the "play dead" emote, got the Fishbed to around 15, and finally bought the Frogfoot and got it up to 7 or 8, needing final tier for MGPs is so cruel, but I've had a lv20 F-4E since the first week, so no big deal to use it for Chandelier for now. A very productive day.
>>586982727>mid-tier upgrade costno, kono
>>586982727We love our MiG-21s here
Is ther a way to play mp of acx via ppsspp with anons here somehow?
>>586983030>with anons heresilly anon, no one here plays together
>>586969440Hartmann lived
Post maneuvers
I just got my ass blasted so hard in Warfare I finished with 0 points. Picked apart by a SU-57/FA-36 duo so thoroughly I felt like a legitimate NPC.
>>586982963>>586982727I've got to touch it irl :-D
>>586985984Two of them actually :-D
>>586985149Look at my moves, your fancy raptors and felons can't do this
>>586985984>>586986230They look like they were put together by drunk farmers with hammers and homemade gluePure sovl
>>586985984what did they mean by this?
>>586986591kek>>586985149
>>586986230Can't believe people actually flew in these things, damn
>>586987496Everything in that museum was in pretty rough condition, but it's pure sovl that you can just go up and actually touch those planes. There were no staff and the opening hours were just "when the flying club felt like it." You just had to write your name down in a quest book and leave a tip if you felt like it.
>>586988450Reminder some WW2 planes were literally made of wood and cloth
>>586988863Wood and cloth somehow feels less dangerous than shoddy metal
>>586988485Is that wing with the white and blue roundel a Hunter?
rocky island part 2 kinda got hands
>>586989324It's something called Folland Gnathttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folland_Gnat
>>586954128it was alright but it for sure should have had MUCH more fighters. I don't know why they didn't but it should have been way more fighters on both sides. Hell it should have had like 5 named enemy aces in 1 mission.
>>586990109leave it to britain to name their jet airplane after a pathetic fucking tiny fly
>>586990349Brits either have the best names or the worst names.
>>586990589That is true.
crashing should give you a 2 minute respawn time. all the people crashing to deny you points is so fucking lame.
>>586991334In my defense I'm just a shit pilot trying to fly low to dodge missiles
>>586991334You've killed me 4 times already, the sight of you even approaching is enough to make me plummet into the earth to try and stop the humiliation
>>586991972>>586991512nah people with massive score counts will do this so their team doesn't lose. its happened many times and you can tell when its deliberate and not someone making a mistake.
>>586991334You're supposed to receive indirect kills when they crash, but the points are still less than an actual kill so players are still doing it. PA can't balance for shit.>>586953170Yeah, Warfare really comes down to your team. It's not like TDM in 7 where you could carry if your team was shit and the enemy team weren't that great themselves. Even then, 'your team not being shit' usually boils down to 'your LAAM teammate third parties the opponent you're dogfighting instead of focusing on NPCs'.
>>586993034Step 1 of any non shit team is not having 2 fucking attackers, which is somehow something people have decided is worth doing now(probably the stupid MVP event challenge).
>>586993186Literally first Warfare match I had after the event started, the opposing team had THREE Attackers. Got 5 player kills in that match and even then I think I underperformed, those Su-34s can dodge once they're aware of you.I got 6 kills in another match where the opposing team had two Attackers, but both refused to dodge and just relied on flares.
>>586978714Damn the duck looks nice. And people still dislike the design
>warfare genuinely unplayable unless you have a LAAMboat of r maxed out SuperplaneGuess this is where i quit.
>>586994227There should've been cost brackets on launch. Even then, parts aren't as powerful as in 7, so a high cost aircraft with no parts can still go into cost restricted TDM/DM and wreck everyone. It also doesn't help that aircraft level doesn't factor into cost.
>>586963863Jackpot 9 wins the Rex bowl by just being confident enough to ask Rex out while Kate seethes in the Cuck Rafale.
>>586994478Even a game as fucked as Gbo2 understood cost limits.
>>586994649I've never played that, but apparently ACO's lobby and menus borrows a lot from GBO2 anyway.
>>586994602Give it a rest Jackpot 9. Kate doesn't even need to ask Rex out. She tells him she is going to be riding him and he's got no say in it!
«COME ON!» x2
There aren't enough of a playerbase to split game modes even more with cost cap.
what's the strategy for avoiding LAAMspam anywayi'd like to play decoy sometimes
>>586995093I know it's almost heresy but I'd love an AC to end with you dueling the big bad in your own bullshit superjet cooked up by your country
>>586995374Play in the clouds as it breaks missile lock. Legit once held off an entire team of LAAM spamming Miggers in an F-18C without firing a shot or getting shot down an entire match allowing my team to win by a huge score difference.
>>586995426probably not for AC, but a play on that idea: you're always considered an inferior pilot to the bad guy, so they give you a bullshit superplane with a ZOE style AI assistant to even the odds. after you shoot him down somebody on the ground radios and tells you that you forgot to turn the AI assistant on before the battle.
>>586995246They need to do something though cause the only way to fix online would be for there to be cost caps especially in warfare.
>>586994759Gbo2s lobby and menu system was actually better, somehow
>>586993595Solo warfare is legit unplayable. It's just down to which team gets double/triple attackers.
>PC did the thing again where after too many hibernate cycles it thinks it's using 38GB of VRAM causing games to shit the bedSorry for the extra couple of "aborted because someone left" errors.
>multiplayer maps load in like three seconds>loading a free flight mission takes like five minutesfix your game so i don't have to play a single player mission before multiplayer reeeeee
https://x.com/amanetate10945/status/2118775572814024884
>>586997356Lmao the details>Jackpot 9 looking confused>Baxter trying not to get caught writing his manifesto>Coster physically awake but mentally gone
>>586997154that's usually fragmentation and stuff like your browser can cause it if you let it run too long
>>586963863She'd get to fly with him once...
>>586997154>hibernatenever ever
>>586997356cute
>>586990859So strange to name a ship after a part of a ship, in this case a gaff sail. It's like if Ford introduced a new car called the Ford Carburator.
>>586997356I'm disappointed you didn't see more people during briefings. Usually it's just Joker flight, Kate, and maybe Cruz (Queen 2).
>>586997828>fragmentationNigga that hasn't been an issue in ages unless you're a literal prehistoric caveman and your pc has only hard drives
>>586998005Those bodies could've taken up the resources for entire crew area being loaded at all times during those cut scenes. I'm still baffled at the complete disregard for resource management for those scenes.
I wish we got basic instruments in cockpit mode.Obviously not the full cockpit, but just implementing the usual HUD into the cockpit instruments, then turning off the first person HUD to make it more immersive
>>586998215>Nigga that hasn't been an issue in ages unless you're a literal prehistoric caveman and your pc has only hard drivesyou werent around when the initial hardware reqs dropped and people were chimping over it not being scalable to switch 1 specs?
>>586997961You say that as though there aren't a million cars named turbo out there.
>>586995426ACX might've originally intended to be that, with Apalis supposedly being an Aurelian design that starts out as an early-midgame plane and then gets nursed to near-superplane status with upgrades. Still nowhere near Fenrir but that one's more bullshit than ADFX-02 Morgan desu.
I finally played through 7 and holy fuck that campaign was retardedly short. I was expecting SALVATION but I just googled that and apparently it's DLC but what the fuck.
>clear 6 and 7 with the CFA-44>go back to 8 and have nothing better than the F-22I need it. I need it back.
>>586999123It's s shame the playable Fenrir doesn't get the microwave death balls spw
5 games and no e sortie, did they turn it back down already?
>>586999123I think that was the intention, but if you pick the right missions in X you can unlock the XFA-27 very early and do pretty much the same thing. Base XFA-27 is decent, but with the right parts it goes back to superplane status, at least on par with the X-02.>>586999214IMO, of all the superplanes in 7, only the CFA-44 and Darkstar deserve that title. Everything else got nerfed hard and/or is less powerful than a Su-57 with Pulse Lasers.
>>586999430
>>586999430People are probably just retarded when I was playing in the middle of the night in Japan hours party search was returning sorties back to back
>>586999858japanese people are no less retarded than the rest of the planet, so that's not it
>>586990589Warspite just might be the greatest name a vessel has ever had.
>>586999535The XFA-27 feels like the best plane in X, being able to launch 4 standard missiles is just too strong.
>>586999543>>586999858It has to be lobby activity dependent. I was getting e sorties every other match earlier. Or they fucked it up and the boosted rate isn't working anymore.
>>587000642>lobby activity dependentI think so too. I always move to the most crowded lobby and get a Scramble or ES every two or three assault/warfare matches, and that's not counting all the additional ones I get from party search.
«It's a joust!»
>letting the enemy fighter kill our bomber before I blow him up so I can get mvpI'm devious like that
>>586997356>look at picture >hear Cope's toughts in my head
>>587001509This being a thing is bad game design
I just finished leveling up the pass, should I upgrade to the goy pass?
>>587001509The same happened to me but I was too incompetent at stopping the fighter in time instead of just letting him
>>586985149
>>587002247Do you want the Morgan and some extra piss prints? If so then yes.
>>587002196Yeah, a lot of bad design in ACO unfortunately
Just bought my first LAAMboat in the F-14D and holy shit LAAMs are the most fire and forget weapon in the history of this franchise
>everything is less powerful than one of the best planes with the best spw by a county mileNo shit dude. PLSLs are so amazingly overpowered that even just the f15 with them is one of the best planes in the game.
>>587003823Most NPC enemies literally don't react to LAAM since you can fire it outside of their engagement range. It's really starting to piss me off when I spend time getting into position behind an enemy that keeps dodging and flaring, then two LAAMs pop it like it's a stationary ground target. In a game built around dogfighting, you get punished for dogfighting.
>>587004218Meant for >>586999535
anyone else notice the FA-36 doesn't have any animation explaining how it yaws? unless im not seeing anything
>>587004389no you're right, it doesn'tstupid plane
>>587004389asymmetric thrust
it kind of sucks how planes feel like shit until you get them to 15 but I have been enjoying the falcon a bunchit's so zippy
>>587005841Its the roll rates, they only get about equal to their campaign counterpart by level 15
>>587004293Yep that's my biggest gripe as well. Kill stealing is par the course with LAAMs especially on Scrambles.
>>587005841Mid tier fighters and up feel really good to fly. The Eagle feels so much more agile than it did in 7, and I tried a Lv1 Game yesterday and even that felt great.>>587006143Really, they need a longer reload time or less ammo. Maybe a homing or speed nerf too, but you can't reduce the range without defeating the purpose of the weapon.
Fellas, should I install world of warships?
>>587006112yeah I noticed early, I've been using maneuverability and roll stability parts to compensate. High-Gs are just a lot worse too but manageable. In my heart I should save for when I can uncap a raptor or lightning or whatever AC6 stuff they've been cooking up but I also kinda want to get the 18E, 18C's been a workhorse for when everyone wants to be special and go all fighter.>>587006503I guess I'm tainted by trying the strike eagle first, it feels like a boat for now.
why is this game so fucking good
>>587004389the X36 used split ailerons and thrust vectoring to yaw so they just forgor to scale that up
>>587007474theres a couple planes that dont even have modelled vulcan barrels, so hopefully they'll release a patch soon to update some of these errors
Megafloat needs to be harder
>>587006503>longer reload time and less ammo Exactly I've been thinking the best compromise for nerfing any weapon is to keep it stats (albeit begrudgingly) but lengthen reload times. I swear I've seen Typhoons load LAAMs faster than my plane loads Standard missiles. Also, maybe reduce it's tracking angle in short to medium range engagements
>>587007769Base reload time for LAAM is 6.5 seconds. For reference, SAAM (which has less range unless you use the fire early trick) and HPAA (which has flat out worse range and homing ability) have 8.5 seconds. HCAA, which is built around rapid fire, is still 5 seconds.
>>587007637checking more, the FA36 also doesn't have an airbrake, it just lowers flaps & slats and makes its wingtips parallel to the rest of the wing for landingmeanwhile the X40 does have split flaps for yaw and has an airbrake
also why did they put the droptanks there
>>587007637The F-14As glove vanes also don't pop out despite having the bones modelled in to animate it.
>>587008746Because the entire deisgn philosophy when they were mkaing that plane was "just make it as dumb and eccentric as possible"
That F-16 main here who brags about dabbing on superior fighters, are you callsign FOXTWO?
Is there any point to standard MSL parts in a PvP build? Feels like standard missiles are only good for pressure, but not actually scoring hits outside of jousts. I'm thinking of double stacking SpW homing and SASM radius instead. Are the missile speed parts any good?
>>587008746so that they wouldnt have to sacrifice combat load
>>587008159HPAA is a joke weapon online so it's probably not good to compare other weapons to it.
>>587008514Also you can see Rex gripping the side stick because he doesnt have the set-up for the BCI control
>>587009176True, but the point is that LAAM has ridiculously good reload time, to the point that it reloads faster than a weapon that's worse than it in 95% of situations. Fucking 2AAM has a 7 second reload time and that weapon has NOTHING going for it against any other A2A SpW.
>>587009127That's what you should do if you're using SASM anyway. For other special weapons, it's more of a question since no other part is really any good.
>>587002383>Hey, someone broke your mobius strip man.
>>587009127MSLs start getting a bit nutty whenever they start getting focus effects. To the point that whenever you start getting into 1v3s or even 1v2s it will only be a matter of time until you get netcode'd to death
>>587009451>Flight speed can sometimes catch players off guard, but can also cause missiles to overshoot and miss>Lock range is percentage based and so does jack shit on short range weapons, but is really good on weapons that already have long range like HVAA/SAAM/LAAM>Ammo boost is miniscule unless you're using multilocks (lol) or a low cost aircraft that doesn't carry much ammo to begin with>Flight time may be useful on QAAMs, but is useless for everything elseSeems like double stacking homing is the bare minimum, then double stacking something else depending on the SpW. Maybe gun range is an option, many players are complacent at avoiding those.
>>587008514lot of planes don't have an airbrake. f35 doesn't either
So how do I use the TLS better in ACO? I noticed people are now flying wildly and approaching me at the same time. And is the TLS + ECM combo still the best for pvp? Or I can finally opt for the Pixy combination of TLS and MPBM!
>>587011030Apparently TLS sniping works best with mouse plus novice controls. ECM got nerfed hard so yeah go TLS+MPBM. Use MPBM as a super obnoxious SASM that blinds everyone and makes them regret starting up ACO to begin with.
Rootbreaker is such a cool theme during the Megafloat Tunnel Walk, it really should have had an actual Tunnel Run attached to it.
>>587011030Mouse aim with novice controls is gay. I still use expert with gamepad. Consider running at least the level 2 +yaw boost part.
>another patch>online got worse againwhat are these fucking retarded japs doingnow I'm getting matching errors and issues I've never had before
>>586999535>Everything else got nerfed hard and/or is less powerful than a Su-57 with Pulse Lasers.>Raven
>>587011205>a super obnoxious SASM that blinds everyonelow quality explosion png is my favourite thing to deal with when hitting the joints on Arsenal Bird because of how finnicky it gets for regular missiles sometimescan't wait for the next superplane to flood sorties. At least the CFA or X-02 have railguns and are normal.
>play Warfare>entire team goes SASMboats for some fucking reason so I'm forced to ground pound>only plane I have set up for A2G at the time is a lvl7 A-10>still topscore on my team by a 2x margin (we lost big time)Some of these players, man.On a more positive note, I've finally got a max level SU-47 and am slowly getting better at getting player- and A2G kills with SAAMs. Very funny weapon.
>>587013045groundpounding is literally the only way to MVP in this godforsaken mode what are you talking about?
>>587013164Not when you're bad at it like me and flying a hilariously underleveled plane. I did ass, but somehow my team was even more ass.
>>587013045There's a challenge to get ten human kills so they're presumably trying to do that.Also >>587013164 is right, the attacker always gets top score. 150k+ if things go well.
>>587013164you can MVP with fighters just fine but it requires some serious paste-eating from the other playersdoes MVP actually do anything? I'm sure the only real money and xp gains are from sorties anyways
>>587006692I take your silence as a no.Should I install baldurs gate 3 instead?
>>587013045To be fair, three A2A and one ground pounder is the optimum set-up for Warfare, outside of Fort Grays. If the Attacker ISN'T the highest scorer on each team then something has gone horribly wrong.>>587013164>>587013307I did get MVP at Artiglio in an Eagle once, but that was a weird match>both teams had two Attackers>no-one was flying an Su-34>for some reason the enemy EA-6B was also trying to ground pound and barely used their ECM>Sole enemy fighter was tied up elsewhere most of the match while I picked off three players that didn't try to dodge
>>587012983>next superplaneXFA-33and a new sortie: Gleipnir, it fires multiple SWBM until you destroy the launchers, then it fires the shock cannon, and for the final phase it flips upside down and fires the shock cannon in rapid fire
>>587013307Gets you a little extra zoll/experience, nothing too impressive.
>>587013619Plus whatever extra you earn from tryharding in regular matches is miniscule versus getting Scrambles and Emergencies via party search, even without contracts.
>>587013494Fun RPG if that's your thing
>>587013774I'm so glad more people seem to be hosting esortie/scramble parties now. Last time I looked I couldn't find anything for the life of me.
>>587013558I would be beyond the moon with a real modern Gelipnir fight, that sounds awesome. >>587013619figured it was mostly nothing. I was wondering if it might influence the USB drops but honestly I just play warfare since it's faster than assault as a waiting room for sorties/scrambles.
>>587012983>>587011205>Use MPBM as a super obnoxious SASM that blinds everyone and makes them regret starting up ACO to begin with.
>>587013494World of warship is kinda bad to be honest.Baldur's Gate 3 is a truly GREAT game but you need to be in the right mindset to play it. You need to read and to think about what you're doing.I don't know if it's your cup of tea, but if you want something that hit me like a truck in the last days check out "Probably Stolen"
>>587013307you need to do it three times for gold mats
>>587013909The boss would be too easy otherwise
>>587013558>the variant of gleipnir fight is random and it can start invisible
>>587013558>and for the final phase it flips upside down and fires the shock cannon in rapid fireI do hope it moves like Orgoi or he's catching no body, rapid fire or not
Today I will play 3
For the Online Frogfoot enjoyers, what parts are you putting on to make it not complete ball torture to fly?
>>587013809I played it before when it came out but it's been long enough that I've forgotten enough of it to play again I reckon. I played coop also and playing alone would be different too.>>587013952I like WoWs for how chill it is. I can play it while listning to some videos and don't have to sweat too much even for pvp. It does feel like a bit of a waste to play when you don't have premium but I have like a month of "Pls return to the game we love you" gift premium stacked up. I just need it to tide me over until PoE2 is out and then it can serve the same purpose I reckon. I'll check out Probably Stolen also, thanks.
>>587014370Good.Today i cheevo'd Zero
>>587014680how do you the difficulty medals? I can't seem to get any of them despite S ranking the entire Ace difficulty
>>587014389The handling will be complete shit at any speed beyond 1000 kph. You can deal big damage against the Alicorn with SFFS, but I think it's too slow for the MGP to be worthwhile versus a MGP Phantom against Chandelier.
>>587014939NTA but I can deal with that, what I can't deal with is the handling being complete shit, I can't even make it back to the final barrel pound after destroying the basement generators, damagewise I'm cooking
>>587014823The medals are not "retroactive". If you do a medal in expert, you don't unlock the Hard and the NormalAlso ACE has no medal for completition.You must play all the three routes (even in free missions) for Expert, Hard, and Normal.Basically, you need to finish the game 9 times only for the difficulty medals
>>587015102>Also ACE has no medal for completition.Oh, for fuck sake, wasted all this time and I got nothing to show for it
Is it even a good idea to bring any plane thats not level 10 to Warfare?
>>587014389It remains a boat at lvl 20 whatever parts you put on it. Just enjoy the damage output and try only travel in a straight line.
>>587015205Not really, a lot of the ace planes do spawn only in ACE difficulty, so if you want to complete the assault record is a must. Also if you play the last mission (gauntlet) in Ace difficulty and do well, you can have a 1v1 vs Mobius1 and also unlock a skin IIRC. I didn't do it yet
>>587015231Not really but what's the worst that's going to happen? You spend 5 minutes leisurely flying around and get pretty much the same rewards.
I don't know how people play in third person, I am physically unable to do well in these games unless I'm in first person
>>587015385You unlock F22 - Mobius when you finish the soldier route, both F14 - RGZ and Mobius are Soldier skins. Mobius 1 is entirely optional, you don't even need to fight him for S rank, Wizard is fine, which makes me wish they at least give you an achievement for fighting him.
>>587015608with the FOV from cockpit view being as cramped as it is, its the opposite for me people who use HUD view for le meta are soulless bug drones
>>587015608plens are cool. i wanna see the plen
>>587015608most of the time I'm flying by radar if it's warfare, since that's the easiest way to dodge missiles. Third person just gives me more peripheral vision to see if I'm going to get jumped
>>587015751I use HUD view and I also use bumper view in racing games. It just gives a better sense of speed and movement.
Increased sortie rate my fucking ass
>>587015975I got nothing in like 7 games kek
>>587015613Gauntlet ranks are time based. In theory you could S rank against Sorcerer if you struggle against Espada but blitz everyone else. That being said, Mobius alone is worth more points than any of the other squads, plus if you're REALLY quick you can snipe the four Wizard YF-23s before Mobius does, but this is all for bragging rights via maximised score rather than tangible rewards.
>>587015975Works on my machine, but even if it doesn't just do the good ol party search, you get 1-3 per search this time around
>>587016324>Gauntlet ranks are time based. Yeah I know, that said it's very lenient to give us 14 minutes for S rank, I don't see anyone not getting S rank honestly>if you're REALLY quick you can snipe the four Wizard YF-23s before Mobius doesyou can do what? Never seen this happen
>>587015608thirdies are soulless
>>587016554>you can do what? Never seen this happenI think you need the TLS to pull it off, but yes you can snipe Wizard first. Maybe XLAA as well.
>>587016836>TLSoh yeah, that makes sense, never used anything other than F-15 for this mode since I like larping with the canon plane when fighting bosses and this is a boss gauntlet
Welp I've had enough of online for one evening. Btw, has anyone installed that latest Nvidia driver update a couple days ago? I really don't want to be a guinea pig on this.
>>586999543>The daily limit will remain at 10 even after the event has endedHoly crackers, this is wonderful.
>>587017240Yeah, now instead of wasting 2 fucking hours to hunt down a sortie lobby once the emergency rates return to normal, we need 4 hours in this fucking game mode, fuck.
>>587017240You're not going to feel so wonderful when it takes playing like 50 games to get the daily limit after the event ends.On the plus side, you will probably have more than enough gold tickets not to care to farm more by then.
>>587017240But the increased sortie rates won't, lmao. Now get grinding.
>>587017240how are you not dreading the implication of this?
Patiently awaiting the Linux-compatible multiplayer build
Patiently awaiting the good multiplayer build
>>586995426What is AC 2
>>587017240>>587017379>>587017474Yeah, just wait until they increase the level cap and you need 20 gold blueprints to take even a Phantom from 20 to 25, then 30 blueprints from 25 to 30. High cost aircraft will need 40 then 50.
>>587019208I'd accept your bullshit if it made more planes viable but unfortunately from what we can see, most planes get shitty abilities while meta planes get even more meta.
>>587006503Reminder that LAAMS have a turn rate of 150 compared to the QAAM's 75.
>>587019208stop
So in one week I've played 4, 5, 0 and now just finished 6. A friend of mine is telling me to go through Assault Horizon first and then 7. But isn't that non-canon?
I hate how japan's netcode is like 40 years behind the rest of the world.
hapa maker
>>587008746Ask the British
>>587019607Assault Horizon LEGACY is AC2 Remake, so no, that's canon
>>587019985https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ace_Combat:_Assault_Horizon I think he means this one
>>587017750Once I have enough GBPs for another high tier plane, maybe two, I will stop playing online entirely until they make sweeping changes to it.
>>587019607Assault Horizon is it's own thing. Assault Horizon Legacy has nothing to do with Assault Horizon, despite the name, and like >>587019985 said, is a remake of 2.
>>587020171I was giving his friend a benefit of the doubt, recommending AH is evil
>>587015247I just have speed parts on mine
>>587020292>>587020263I bought 7 and 8. With 8 I even got a preorder key somehow and I got AC0 as well. Well I'll play this Assault Horizon first and go through 7 aftter. I hope its not a long game and its a short one like 6.Loved them all, they are all incredible games in their own way. Prob 6 is the weakest one, but still a good game.
>>587020459>I'll play this Assault Horizon firstAnon, step away from the ledge.
For me it's the ultra hornet
>>587019471I swear they swapped the turn rates of LAAMs and HVAAs, which have a top speed of 8000 and a turn rate of only 55 for some reason. No wonder they're kinda crap in 8, they had the highest turn rate of everything in 7.SAAMs actually have the tightest turning circle with a top speed of 4000 and a turn rate of 150.
>>587020459>I'll play this Assault Horizon firstAnd anon never touched an AC game again in his entire life.Just don't
>>587020459>play Ass Horror firstBro, fucking RUN
>>587020723A lot of the stats seem weirdly swapped in 8. Like why is the Gripen fast and sluggish while the MiG-31 is slow but turns on a dime?
>>587020723I'm ok with SAAMs having good paper stats since the player has to commit a lot more to keeping the things on target.
>>587014389I use BROS, ECU update 2, FAPD 2, Super Maneuverability 2, and low speed turning upgrade ability.
How do we make multiroles great?Some of the coolest planes are multiroles, like F-35, Rafale, Su-33, F/A-18 and so on, but they all suck because of their lack of specialisation. They basically have to act as a discount fighter or a discount attacker.
>>587021005Same. Giving the fire-and-forget LAAM almost the same homing performance as arguably the most high-commitment weapon and almost double its lock-on range is just silly.
>>587021623Literally just buff their damage, Rafale is a top tier plane if not for the dogshit damage
>>587021005>>587021670Plus of the four aircraft that carry SAAM, two of them get LAAM anyway.>>587021673Even then, Rafale shits all over the Su-35S that you unlock at the same rank.
>>587015608Because if I play in cockpit/first person mode, then I can't see my airspeed indicator when I make the camera track the opponent.
>>587021670If you're a knower, SAAMS can attack targets at out to ~13km. They're unguided until you get to 6km, but they can be in the air and zooming on target until then. I've taken advantage of that to beat a few LAAMS to the punch when it comes to engaging bomber-tier TGTS in assault mode.
I never make my camera track my opponent. What is the tactical advantage of doing so?
>>587021623you can't unless you're reworking the entire online balance and mission designrole multipliers are just broken and there is no reason to bring a multirole because the missions are too specialized as it isthe only way I could possibly go about doing an easy balance pass would be giving multiroles a bigger SPW selection (so each plane has a selection of like 5-6 instead of 3) and a bigger payload to take advantage of it
>>587022238>what advantage do you get from seeing what your opponent is doingDo we really need to spell it out for you?
>>587021623The only fundamental problem with multiroles is the nature of warfare mode means that you don't want anyone stepping on your dedicated attacker's toes when it comes to farming the ground kills. In assault mode multiroles are perfectly fine. In most assault maps the overwhelming majority of ground targets are soft ones, so any multirole with some bombs or sods is just fine. They're just worse at popping naval ships or heavy howitzers.If anything the bigger problem is LAAMS being busted, and at this point they should just slap that brainless weapon with an ECM tier nerf and make them worthless against non-bombers. Leaning hard on the LAAM crutch is basically the only way that fighter has any hope of stealing MVP in assault mode from some of the better multiroles like Su-47.
>>587022342They're trying to kill you. Do you need to see to know it?
>>587022841yes
>>587022662>Nerf LAAMs>Allow clouds to block lasers againThat covers the main balance issues right now, outside of fundamental issues with modes themselves.
>>587022238it's good to know when they kill their speed or take a bad angle so you can punish it
Damage aside I also think that multiroles just have really lackluster flight performance. A tier 3 multirole like the F-35 or Su-35 will still get mogged by a MiG-21.
>>587022841It's him. The breakfast guy.
Question? Anyone know the score minimum for getting an S on 28?
>>587023020It doesn't happen as much now that players are more skilled and have better aircraft, but there's something really satisfying about watching an opponent accidentally burn all their energy, pointing your nose at them, and unloading a triple volley.
>>587023162154K
>>587023089Su-35 is just plagued by shit special weapons since they obviously saved the good special weapon pairings for the fancy Yellow and Sol flankers.
>>587022227I've been using that strat. Got 50k+ in Assault, only behind a LAAMslinger (because what else) today with a UGB+SAAM Berkut.More niche but even funnier is making your SAAMs hit ground targets.
>why do I need to look at the opponent/>I just pull back hard on the stick.>If that doesn't work, I just keep pulling back harder.
>>587020723HVAAs also have almost the same launch stat penalties as the LAAM, on a missile that is vastly faster and has a shorter lock-on max range, so it literally gets punished much harder for what is supposed to be its strengthit's so fucking retarded
The arrow tells me where the enemy is. If the arrow moves contrary to my expectations it means the enemy is doing something fucky and I should be careful. If the arrow moves according to my expectations I get the kill.
>>587023305I like dumb-firing SAAMs to the sides behind targets that are notching me and then locking a few seconds later so that the SAAMs attack from a rear aspect angle instead of one of those side aspect ones where the missile just shits itself because of the retarded direct pursuit tracking.
>>587023410If anything looking at the opponent leads more to pulling on the stick.
>>587023210the amount of very high tier planes I see around that still don't have any clue about stuff like that is a bit funny. Swear the ECM makes barricader pilots dumber.>>587023089kinda wish the 35 had an AA weapon other than HCAAs, I'd like to invest when I reach that rank but just not a fan of that spw
>>587010342>Lock range is percentage based and so does jack shit on short range weapons, but is really good on weapons that already have long range like HVAA/SAAM/LAAM>equip it and test it in test flight>SAAM lockon range goes from 6km to 6.2km
>>587023529I've pulled off the one-man pincer maneuver on a few players now and it always feels great.
i like ace combat
How do you feel about the value of the battle pass?
>>587023676It's more likely that they just don't have the plane leveled enough. You simply can't do the same moves you do on a maxed out plane when you have half the turn rate and acceleration.
>>586954080>PA envisioned B7R on the PS2Imagine the B7R furball and the sacrificial plens during Avalon Dam if they did it with current tech....
>>587023594I understand that the flight models are giga-arkaden tier, but looking at the opponent lets you gauge the necessary maneuvers and throttle input to stay on someone's six instead of just looping in a circle forever like a retard.
>>587023836If there's no planes or missions, it's worthless.
>>587023958Well there is a plane, the Morgan
>>587023836The battle pass itself is fine. The problem is that the online mode is trash, so putting money in it doesn't present a good value proposition.
>>587010342Lock range also gives you faster lock speed, which is a bigger benefit imo than the tiny bit of extra range it gives on most missiles.
>>587023836it's bad value, the premium one is even worse and just a waste of moneybut it also depends on how they plan on selling the featured plane after the season ends since we still don't know how that's going to work
>>587023841I am going to just assume that they suck BRAVO's Heroic Ace PilotsALPHA's Clueless NuggetsTHEIR embarrassing bailoutOUR tactical diversionMY SQUADRON's exceptional BVR killsTHE ENEMY's cowardly LAAMboat crutch
>>587023836only worth it for the plane skins, since those are limited time exclusivesif you want the chrome tile IR defeating Raptor or Ukrainian air show Fulcrum, this is it
>>587023836It only contains enough currency for half a pass in the premium tier and a quarter of a pass in the free tier, that alone is predatory as shit.
>>587023223>Got like 125K last timeThanks still gotta step my game up
>>587024106Aren't most missles locking pretty much instantly anyway? When is lock speed ever relevant?
>>587023676I wish HCAAs were good like in 7. I wanna be able to dogfight in a demo-livery Typhoon, not take potshots from outside visual range.
>>587024285you can just kill everyone if Topkek is giving you trouble, you don't have to rely on time bonus
>>587024302It can help if you're flying in circles like a retard (like me most of the time)
>>587023676>Swear the ECM makes barricader pilots dumber.I've seen too many Barricader pilots fly in a straight line and die to MSL+GUN because they haven't realised their ECM is off.>>587024106>>587024302Maybe on QAAM, perhaps HCAA. But really if you're landing hits on another player with HCAA outside of an ambush or a joust, they were doomed anyway.>>587024426Probably for the best in terms of balance, but 8 nerfed all the weapons I was good with in 7.
What are those earphones Coster uses?
LAAMs are:>2nd best damage>2nd best reload>1st best range>2nd best homing angleWhy is this allowed? When any other missle gets to be best at something, it's usually shit at everything else.
>>587024590Flying in circles like a retard missles (QAAM and SASM) usually lock onto the target well before you're at an acceptable angle to shoot them anyway. That's to say I think in any situation where you are able to shoot sooner, you're going to miss anyway. Or maybe I just don't understand this method of flight.
>>587024426did HCAA inherit missile upgrades in 7? I remember there being some funky spwsI'll probably go for the 35 first anyways and just figure out how to make them work.
>>587024743I don't think HCAAs were particularly busted in 7. Sure they were just outright better MSL, but they didn't do anything special either.>>587024915Don't forget shared 1st for turn rate, which gives them the 2nd smallest turning circle due to their higher speed.Giving them a few seconds of reduced homing in 7 was the right idea, they were deadly ~7k out but useless at close range.
>>587025119HCAAs only scaled with SPW upgrades, but you got so many that you could get away with only stacking SPW upgrades and ignoring your regular MSL.In 8 they have some interesting homing/launch quirks, like an inverse HVAA.
>>587025119HCAA and the XFA-27's MSTM only benefited from SpW upgrades, but they were both solid weapons in a game where MP was PvP only.>>587025184To be fair, I think the strength of HCAA in 7 was really what aircraft carried it.>Rafale had insane low speed mobility>Typhoon and J Eagle were great energy fighters with strong engines>Fullback was surprisingly agile for an Attacker>Maverick Super Hornet and 5th Gen Fighter were two of the most agile aircraft in the game
Who would win? 2AAMs or HCAAs?
bit the bullet, bought the foxhoundthis thing is fucking ridiculous, stupid fast and maneuvers like a tier 3 at literally level 1, nevermind the SPW selection, and all on a fighter you unlock for 7 fucking thousand MRP on your 3rd rankpicrel is the first match i played with it right now
>>587025438forgot the picwhat were they thinking
>>587025597It honestly makes putting resources into just a slightly better fighter a bit pointless desu. It gets best high g turns too btw. Only reason I don't use it is because I'm not a migger.
>>587025409>HCAA and the XFA-27's MSTM only benefited from SpW upgradeswild, MSTMs were probably what I was thinking of but crazy that they didn't take MSL upgrades>>587025346>In 8 they have some interesting homing/launch quirks, like an inverse HVAA.I haven't experimented much so I'll look forward to that. Maybe they'll click like how I enjoy the HVAAs
>>587025438Isn't the mig 31 a really fast brick irl cuz it was based on the mig 25? Why is it agile as fuck in this game?
>>587026057Aircraft and weapon performance is arbitrary in Ace Combat. If aircraft performed realistically, the starter Hornet would be more agile than the Super Hornets; the Super Hornets would just have better weapons.
>>587025409I had builds for the Typhoon, Rafale and Super Hornet back in 7, that'a how much I enjoyed spamming them at people. They felt like the ol' reliable SPW, nothing fancy, just a ton of missiles to throw at everyone.>>587025941They don't get a base launch velocity but start tracking immediately once released, so you could potentially get some funky angles with them. I think HPAAs do the same thing but their homing is kinda ass.Fwiw I enjoyed HVAAs a lot more in 7 in spite (or because) of how janky they were.
I really enjoy cucking Coster out of his heroic moment on mission 6.
>>586955267Why is this called Sotoa livery when it's clearly the livery of the Republic of Southern Waipolo Air Force 1st Squadron?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unFAJ6bMcYk
>>587026189It used to be at least consistent within a "tier"- F-16 was always one of the more agile planes in its bracket, while F-4 and big migger were always speed demons with shitty handling, with F-4 consistently having the speed of mid-endgame planes as an early game plane and MiG always being uncontested top 1 like it should be (and sometimes also having extra durability because stainless bro).
>>587027165Speaking of F-16, was AC5 the only instance of normal variant actually having CFT?
>>587026057Foxhound is a Mach 3 interceptor designed to intercept things like the SR-71 and cruise missiles, but ingame its slow but turns on a dime. No idea what PA were thinking
Parties need to be put in separate matches against other parties. People aren't going to play Warfare if they get 4v1'd on spawn.
>F-14A has duplicate abilitiesOh, Scamco. It's not like you fucks were touting the A-model Tomcat as a preorder bonus for fucking months and had plenty of time to error check this shit.
>>587017750>how are you not dreading the implication of this?>>587019208>Yeah, just wait until they increase the level cap and you need 20 gold blueprints to take even a Phantom from 20 to 25, then 30 blueprints from 25 to 30. High cost aircraft will need 40 then 50.They were already planning on doing that shit anyway, given that each plane has data for two more abilities that are currently unobtainable. The General Blueprint cap being raised was almost definitely not in the cards until live feedback bitched about it.
>>587030076A couple of planes have dupe abilities, seems like an intentional quirk.
Is it me or do the Gemma nuggets look like when faggots play on standard controls?
>>587030850That'd be the funniest joke PA has ever made if it's true.
>>587030076>>587030579According to the stat database, each ability has three levels. I'm assuming you can stack the two A2A damage reduction abilities for the Lv2 version (not that it's super useful to begin with).
>>587031421It doesn't give you level 2, it give you two level 1s.F-35 with double air damage does the same damage as a fighter with single air damage so that's nice. No good air special but at least gun/standards work well.
>>5870318941+1=?
>>587031421While online is a mess, I think that it is obvious that they vaguely have some plans for expansion. The inaccessible abilities, and abilities having multiples levels both point towards future expansion.Also there is this useless set of displays in the corner. They must have something planned for them in the future.
>>587032130Its probably some compslop modeBut i want to dream its for an 8 man squadron mode with fuckhuge operations or some sort of conquest mode where you bring your buddies and take over usea both in flight and using a strategic map as if you were playing risk
>>587032130unless they come out swinging right away on season 2 with some big changes, it's not going to matterthere are 20 days left on S1 and it's not gonna survive another 60 days of nothing but another battle pass and one new plane
>>587032431I agree. Online is going to crash and burn real fast in its current state. I might be one of the retards that buys the 2nd battlepass if it is a plane that I give a fuck about, but I can very quickly see myself stop logging in for dailies. I don't care about supply tickets that much. There is NOTHING in the current supply box that I want, and online is too shit for me to start banking them on the hopes that there will be something good in them someday.
>>587026057Who fucking knows? It's actually obscene for its cost and I guarantee it'll dominate low cost if cost limit lobbies are introduced.
>>587032130pretty sure they'll retread infinity and do higher difficulty regular missions and sorties which I'm down for, though it'd be nice to get a few more levels in rotation
>>587031894lmaoFucking Bamco.
>>587033958Your mistake was expecting anything from scamco
Why not just give the planes in MP the same slots they have in the campaign? Extra Body or Arms slots are nice for some plane but others get gimped by have like half the slots. It doesn't even balance them all that well.
>>587034913>Seven arms slots>Double stack SpW homing>Double stack SpW lock range>Double stack SpW missile speed>Add an ammo part for shits and giggles >Sprinkle on some classic Bamcode>LAAMs turn into Kono-san's Point And Click Adventure
Thus, the long journey begins.
>>587032067Now that I check you are correct. It still displays as two separate level 1s but it's doing +40% damage, which is what the builder says level 2 does.Also now that I check I was wrong and it's still a little weaker than a fighter with one air damage. But not by much. And since the fighter damage bonus is smaller vs humans it might actually be stronger than a fighter in pvp. Not that that matters since it has no good air special and a lot of fighters get missile upgrade which will put their missiles at least ahead again, but hey.I am now wishing that F-35 got air damage and missile upgrade instead of two air damages.
>>587035514wait there's a second tier of titles, what the heck>phoenix is on the Dis this how they get me to abuse LAAMs
>>587032130Don't forget energy drinks, oil and... Sattelite imaging?
>>587020706For me the MiG-21bis isn't a bad enough shitbox, I want to fly a MiG-19.
>>587032431The fact they are refusing to acknowledge any issues makes me think they fully intend to let it crash and burn.
Wait apparently they shadow nerfed payouts on scrambles and emergency sorties in AC8?
I like online...Though I do not play warfare more than I absolutely have to
I think this is new with the update.I don't like it because now I permanently have a C rank in my stats and it looks like shit.
>>587042886I got that once, it seemed like it was due to 2 players in the enemy team quitting.
>>587042886>missonHIGH QUALITY GAME
>>587042797>Tasha calls her mommy, tooare Tasha and I related?
If only all Gemma nuggets were this smart.
In this house, we only use full flight suit and a helmet. Anything else is too unprofessional
>>587041526That's just Japanese devs being Japanese devs.
>>587043616I will wear my hat and have my nugget on it and you will not stop me.
>>587043769I have sent your location to the MP
>>587043874Good luck, I'm behind 7 ECM planes
>>587043616sorry, but these leopard pants are too funny to give up
>>587043443She still has to fight though? Their economy depends on mercenaries like them
>>587015608I hold triangle a lot and move the plane relative to the target, and it's easier to track where the plane is in third person. Yeah, sure, first person has a little triangle, but generally I avoid it.The exception is during some low level flying and tunnel runs, but in 7 and 8 that screws me more than it helps me. The best way I can explain it is that it feels like in the PS2 games your plane doesn't have a collision model unless you fly the HUD directly into something, while in 7/8 it feels like they still use your plane's collision model as in third person so if you're flying a large jet it's very easy to clip a wing on an obstacle. I've been playing for years, never crash in the PS2 games, so it's not as simple as being a skill issue. Something's changed.(Not that I'm complaining, I just hope some anon knows what it is.)
>>587015751I've been using HUD view in flight games since 1998. And it's not even >le meta in Ace Combat.
>>587025438>stupid fast It's actually kinda slow.
>>587044703I did learn that if you focus on target by holding the Y button in a dogfight, your plane would oriented itself directly to the target. A bit helpful
>>587015608I'm so used to playing in first person that I do get a bit disoriented whenever I switch to third person, it takes me a bit of time to get adjusted to it.
>>587043616my brother in razgriz we're a mercenary corporationi saw a guy get into his A-6E with a full pumpkin costume earlier
>>586998915There's at least one known as the Kompressor, which my nan despises as a name for a car despite being informed that it's just the German equivalent of Turbo.
man i wish rockets weren't completely hot garbage
If you didn't pre-nerf Balteus and pre-nerf Ladons: hand in your gaymer card.
>>587045327That is not an excuse to let go of the grooming standards
>party 6/4The party search feature really isn't designed to handle players all rushing into specific parties, is it?
>>587046087I beat pre-nerf Ladon but I was on Veteran....I did also beat pre-nerf Balteus
warfare is the worst game mode ever conceived
>>587036046The thing is, while one slot to add 30% damage is worthwhile, a second slot to only add another 10% isn't, unless you're trying to make a max DPS build for the Arsenal Bird. And even then, a regular Fighter with HCAA plus another A2A SpW would be better.
>>587046776I kind of like it as an occasional bit of spice.
>>587046776>>587047060It's basically teammate lottery. Get decent players that know how to use the ping commands and you win. Get paste eaters on your team or an opposing team full of clanfags coordinating via voice chat and you lose. And of course, the LAAM spammers on your team keep trying to close in for dogfights, whereas the enemy LAAM spammers know to play keep away and third party you.
I'm glad the multiplayer in this game is shitMultiplayerfags must sufferAce Combat should never have gone online
>>587047482The really sad thing? After 20 years, this is legitimately their 'best' attempt at balanced online gameplay and it's still garbage most of the time.
>>587047312>LAAM spammers on your team keep trying to close in for dogfightswhat's the point of my QAAM if I'm not going to use it, also I'd rather keep close with my team since I know no one is going to bother helping me when i do get jumped
>>587046874It's worth it because there's nothing better for F-35 to take. You take one air damage and ammo because it means you can spam 8AGM even harder, but then what goes in the third slot? LACM range is so great that the reload is usually the limiting factor, which means increasing range for worse reload is a bad deal. Low speed and medium speed turning aren't important because you're a base 1950 cost multirole so you already turn very well.The tiny bit of extra air damage is pretty weak but it's more useful than the turning ones and it doesn't come with a drawback so it manages to be the best of the bad choices.
dlc news when?
>>587048126autumn next year
>>587047902Personally I'd be tempted to take one of the turning abilities over a second A2A damage boost, but yeah not exactly flush for good choices there. >>587047684It's not as bad with Foxhounds since they can defend themselves with QAAM (also Gripen with SASM and maybe Rafale with HCAA), but too often I see allied Tomcats and Typhoons try to close in and not really accomplish much, while enemy Tomcats and Typhoons know to play keep away. Plus if I want to be super autistic about it, LAAM reload is about the same as QAAM reload even if you take the range ability.
>>587047583ACI had more fun coop because you could make it 4p so it wasn't guaranteed to end in S rank with several minutes left. It's insane that they think 8p is appropriate for these maps.
>>587048581ACI also had fuel, so you could not burn yourself out after couple of day
>>587048581>>587049389I never played ACI. How long would it take to, say, unlock the F-22A and get it to Lv10, versus getting one to Lv20 in AC8?
I see so many people write "Tropak" instead of Toprak it's driving me insane
>>587049505Hard to say because the limit in AC8 is just how much you're willing to play, but I'll say ACI was longer. It's been an incredibly long time but I'm pretty sure it would have taken took months to get there if you weren't buying a lot of extra fuel.It's also complex because the amount of grind changed over time. ACI's version of plane experience was randomly distributed instead of going to what you were flying, so it was possible it'd put it into parts/planes you didn't care about. And over time as they added more content that meant a lot more of those potential wastes. Except they also lowered the price on a lot of early planes so that helped progress faster. And technically if you played at the right time then you could get a special one as a random drop and get it after your first game.But overall I'll say significantly longer, yes.I'll post the aircraft trees so you can see how insanely huge it got. At release it looked like this which wasn't too bad.
>>587050163By the end it looked like this. And the game researched two or three things each game you finished (two if your team lost and three if you won, ACI actually had a bonus for the winning team like AC8 lies about). You didn't have to buy things so you could limit your progress in the wrong directions a little, but still, holy shit.Yeah ACI had the best plane list in the series by far if you weren't aware.
>>587048126I don't know why but I don't like her face. Maybe it's the makeup
>>587050163>ACI's version of plane experience was randomly distributed instead of going to what you were flying, so it was possible it'd put it into parts/planes you didn't care aboutYou just made me have horrible flashbacks. Never do that again.
>>587051003Uncanny valley man face
>>587050163>>587050286why the fuck are japs like this
>>587051076>SORTIE ORDER>[Special Raid Mission Has Occurred]>[MISSION NAME]>MOBY DICK PURSUIT III>You have been removed from this room
>>587051509Now that's just mean.
>>587044109It's going to be extra awkward when they pick up Kate>Kate << Wait are you that nugget that decided to shoot me in the back when we deliberately choose to ignore you? >>>Yuldasheva << Erm... >>>Kate << Come with me young lady, we're going to have a very long talk! >>
testing
>>587043420I don't know are you an autistic little girl?>>587043616Fuck you we're the Landsknechte of the skies!>>587046679Only Elite and above counts. >>587046776Fundamentally it could be if it was restricted only to shitbox planes. Of course what happens is you get a squadron of shitboxes vs the nofunallowed wing and it becomes a 5 minute long dry assfuck.>>587047482Its impressive to watch the devs pour so many resources into it and fuck it up so spectacularly.
i usually have a good time in warfare flying around in my mirage dunking on ground targets and occasionally coming to my allies aid by surprising whoever is chasing them with a missile that usually doesn't connect but every so often doesi get MVP regularlyam i good or just lucky? if someone takes an attacker i try to stay away from them to give them room to work, but sometimes they're just not that good
I'm gonna say it. In engine cutscenes suck. I'd rather have live action ones or sliding card ones.
>>587053929Why
>>587053929I'd say the problem is direction. They didn't do anything interesting with the cutscenes. Changing them to live action or storyboards wouldn't fix anything.
5 emergency sorties off the rip in party search. 0 when I tried last night this game is dead as fuck in American prime time or burgers don’t host parties
>>587054158Characters in unreal looks kind of weird for one. They have a bit of an uncanny valley going on. They're also expensive while adding nothing to the gameplay, or even storytelling.What advantage is there in being able to look around and press x to handshake?
>>587054697Oh, they're beyond the uncanny valley for me so I don't have that problem, but I understand that everyone's uncanny valley is a bit different. Unfortunate.
>>587054697>What advantage is there in being able to look around and press x to handshake?Many people were hoping for press x to bang wife.
>>587054889I'm glad they kept romance vague. Romances in videogames don't really work anyway.
>>587055253The best psx game disagrees (it's tokimeki memorial 2 and Yae is best girl)
Goddamn this is insufferable a guy wasn’t getting ready in the party so I stop the queue to see if I can kick him. NOPE but in the meantime he woke up and left the party on his own holy
I had a different video playing behind the nugget maybe for the first time.
>currently on mission 29 of 3rd campaign playthrough and the 16 million MRP achievement hasn't popped yet.I love this game but goddamn bro.
>>587055253>I'm glad they kept romance vague. I think it's only vague if you are not paying attention?
>>587054694Playing during Japanese prime time, players are more willing to use radio commands and pings to communicate with the team. Outside of those hours I get 3v1 by Felons and the enemy Fullback runs amok uncontested while my teammates lick the wallpaper or something.
>>587055694I do not understand why the party leader can't kick people. If someone is bugged and causes the sortie to fail to start then you have to remake the party from scratch, lest they hold you all hostage.
>>587055694He might have been doing the thing I did the first time I used party finder... failing to figure out how to ready up.
>>587055874Yeah this is nuts. When I open a party at this hour it fills in seconds.
post MiG-21s
>>587055871See this is what I mean with uncanny valley. The lighting on her is so weird, it's like she's synthetic.
>>587056403are these 21s?
>>587056856they're fitters
>5 assault with attacker>5 assault with ewFuck off bamco your game mode is shit and your game mode is shit. Death to laamspam.
>>587056975Ok, but you'll QAAM-22s from 7 back in exchange
Back during Infinity days I remember trying to to use the PSN store. Most of my time was on Xbox. The online store on PAN had the laggiest bloated UI ever I was shocked people plugged their credit cards into this. That’s what using these menus feels like in Ace Combat Online they’re made slow on purpose. Go to the party search right now. Try to join a party. 6/4 players, 5/4 players. Join one with a single player, Error party is full.
>>587056403Wish I saved the clips from Safed Sagar
>>587056975Assault with Attacker isn't too bad depending on the map. I got my three MVPs challenge with a Fullback, but that's not saying much given it is the best Attacker outside of speedrunning Emergencies with SFFS.EW is just useless now. ESM should last longer in non PvP modes. Hell, even in PvP modes I think it would be fair to increase the active time by a little bit (maybe 3 to 5 extra seconds, but no more).
Come join me, Rex.
>>587057187The interface is clearly not designed for players who can think faster than one input per second, which is incredible considering this is an arcade flight game.
>>587057187PSN store in 3 was famously breached and leaked too. It had to be taken down for a while, like a month and I remember getting some free games out of it.So yeah, people would've been justified in not putting their cards into it.
>>587057221I'm not buying your metaslave plane, bamco. Your balance is shit. Fix it. Death to laamspam.
think i'm gonan play some ACE COMAT ZEROhope tats ok with u /aceg/
Imagine how bad it'll be when they add the inevitable FB-22 for stealth LAAMSPAAM
>>587057187I was typing this shitpost in the middle of a game you will in fact get kicked for inactivity haha. They can do some things right but 90% of this is retardation.
>>587057654I don't have to imagine because I won't be playing this shit by then.
>>587057654It's fine LAAMs will be irrelevant when they start upping the difficulty by shoving jammers everywhere so firing missiles from longer than 1000 meters is a lie
>>587057654Attacker damage penalty should tone down its effectiveness, but watch it get a 'Anti-Air Attack Modification (Attacker)' ability that has a 1.5 multiplier.
>>587057863This ability is shit when it's the other way around. 1.5 damage F16 still cant oneshot basic SAMs because 1.5 times shit damage is still shit damage. The same will apply to attackers I reckon.
>>587056403I posted some Fishbeds I got to see irl earlier in to this thread.
Are Fullback, Viper Zero and Strike Eagle the only worthwhile Attackers in general due to not being slow as molasses and handling better than usual?
Seems like the Miggers have graduated to Typhoons.
>>587058151Frogfoot is extremely good in e-sorties.
>>587057985Yeah, it will suck in PvE. 0.5 base times 1.5 from the ability only gives 0.75; still worse than a Multirole with no abilities.But the Attacker damage multiplier against PLAYERS is 0.85 base. The theoretical ability turns that into 1.275, nearly on par with Fighters and Multiroles with their equivalent ability.
>>587058242I guess i need to raise it to at least level 5 first because SFFS vs 4AGM...
>>587058357Yeah, it's pretty bad in early levels. Also you need level 15 for the gunpods. But once you get everything sorted, it will solo the chandelier.
>>587058242>>587058357MGP Frogfoot is good for Chandelier, and you may as well pack SFFS since you won't need all those bullets. However I'd argue a Lv10 Strike Eagle is better for SFFS only than a Lv20 Frogfoot.
>>587058479I for one am anticipating gold chandelier with extra lasers.
Actually, can SFFS hit the chandelier core from outside the barrel?
>>587058135what if fishbed but eurocanard
Imagine gold arsenal bird with laser/barrier/ecm drones out the ass
>>587058687That's just a Viggen :-D
>>587058783viggen doesn't have funny nose
>>587058847oh yeah thats right, is there any jet with that weird nose air intake with delta wing?
>>587058357I just limit broke it to the max cap and then dumped all my remaining USB sticks into it just to not have to slog through the first 8 levels of it flying like a brick.
>>587058943It's fairly agile at low speeds. The problem is, the mobility tanks as soon as you exceed 1000 kph. And your top speed is already limited to 1800 kph or so.
How does stealth work in PVP can I slap on the stealth coating for one level and not appear on other players radars if they aren’t looking so I ground pound in peace
>>587060048Nah it's only useful if your plane already has high stealth. Could work maybe if you're ground pounding in an F-35 or EA-36. Also people can know where you are since they know where targets are.
It’s hell on earth one game is a stack of fighters jamming up my enemy team and their Su-34 gets 180K. The very next the enemy stack is glued to our attackersIt’s made me spiteful so I wait out the full 60 seconds instead of picking a plane
Mission 04 and 07 are really good early game missionsperfect destruction style missions
Same anon from hours ago, where do I find a good pc download for Assault Horizon?
>Just begin a match>Earthquake starts shaking my setup apart.I'm a retard and kept playing anyway.
>>587065106Herro Anon.
Started leveling up shitter planes just for fun. Ran out of MG ammo not even half way in to a mission. Forgot thats a feature in level 1 planes.
Anyone reason why I never see FA-36s online. It's a more maneuverable SASM boat compared to say the F-15C?
>Leveling FA-36>Take it to chandelier for quick exp>Dump guns and missles at the coolers and the core>Still has hp leftStill finished it fine thanks to others but it was silly.
>>587066002It gets the delta wing debuff of being less maneuverable at low speeds compared to F-15C. It's still really good though, you probably don't see it because people aren't as aware of how strong it is and also it's expensive to level.
>>587066226How good is it actually?
>>587066317Imo it's the best dogfighter. Only problem is that best dogfighter is only marginally better than Mig-31B at the end of the day and Migger gets LAAMs.
>>587066565Would have thought that F-22 or Su-57 would be better due to QAAMs or is QAAM not as good as SASM?
>>587066658SASMs are harder to avoid than QAAMs, especially with the radius upgrade you can get on them.
How the fuck do I top score on my team with a level 1 Mig-21. These guys need to be executed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frVFiriQOhcOne of Purple Magic's more aggressive songs.
>>587047583Honestly they should just let co-op campaign be a thing.
>>587067376>Get AC8 DLC>It's a mini co-op campaign where you all play as Queen flight on their missions
Am I slow if I realized yesterday that you don't gave to wait for planes to get to level 5/10/15 before you can lift the level cap?
>>587053431Warfare sucks if the opposing team decides to chase you right out the gate. It would behoove both teams to actually focus on as many NPC targets as possible before engaging in the obligatory incessant furballing.
>>587068540YesThe Growler meta was always to save up 60 to unlock ECM immediatelyF-15C also wants SASMs immediately but feels less bad if you don't save up
MY SCORE POINTS! (°□°)︵ ━Seriously, what the hell.
>>587064895Don't play that piece of shit
>>587068690I have won games by getting very few points, but making 2-3 people end up in retard spirals fighting me.
>>587068690Yep, I can't evade for long in slower multi roles like the F-18C or F-4E, but in my F-16 I love baiting Felons, Games, Growlers and Raptors into chasing me. Hell, I ran into the middle of a trio of the enemy fighters just to divert their attention from my teammate onto me and wound up wrecking them one by one. That other guy here who mains the Viper is an absolute ball-knower and I'm glad I'm not the only one who pushes back against the meta.
>>587070010Meant to reply to you, not myself lol.
If only emergency sorties counted for MVP, MGP Su-25 is just that good
>>587068758Holy shit. I thought you got the extra spw and so on only once you levelled the planeI'll just go and sit in a corned
>>587070010>I have won games by getting very few points, but making 2-3 people end up in retard spirals fighting me.Is it just me or is always people who are have Sotoan emblems who keep trying to get into retard spirals and throwing the match?
>>587065106hey japan bro can you tell kono to fix mp
Best kind of plane if I am a cowardly dishonorable opportunist?
>>587070864become a migger
>>587070864MiG-31
>>587070864mig 31
>>587070962>>587070939>>587070937But why though? Isnt it slow in online so you cant exacty run away like a coward once people inevitably notice
I wanna play more online but the maps they picked from 7 are so god damn boring
>>587043616The Nugget stays on.
>>587070685I hope you didn't do any scrambles or emergencies while capped under 20.All that xp wasted and you didn't even get a pity usb
Why so many MiG-31s and not F-14D’s aren’t they cheaper
>>587071558QAAMs
>>587071120LAAM+QAAM's that's why.
>>587055871Isn't she smirking at Jenkins ranting and storming off in this cutscene? There's better ones where she pays attention to Ray.
Four players in a scramble party and it’s not launching instantly what
>>587071694I think mission 4 she is sneaking glances at you as well.
>>587071735Probably someone in the party is stuck at some point in the matchmaking.
I got 3-4 times of emergency lobbies host trolling(?) by quitting, what's up with that?
>>587071972Quitting at what point?In the lobby there's a bug where you can't queue up for emergencies but normal Warfare/Assault pops just fine. Fix is to relog.if they're quitting mid mission, then they're sending you into the mission while retaining the emergency pop to do it again for 3 others
bros not enough people played the game... we won't get nominated for TGA's GOTY will we?There'll be no Hortus Regis Alti performed live...
>>587072380This was meant to be the biggest online ever in the series. Is this really the peak of our power?
Crying I went too hard yesterday taking advantage of e sorties and already ran out of contracts. Still money grinding too fug
>>587072380GTA 6 is winning it and literally nothing will change that other than it actually being a cyberpunk 2077 tier launch.
>>587072196right when 4 people readied up, then je quits
japan air self defense force posted an official video to the hortus regis alti track on their youtube channel yesterday. idk if anyone posted it in the thread yet. the vid is mid but still cool conceptually
>>587056403PA needs a 5th gen fishbed as a meme superplane
>>587072380you literally don't know what planet you live on if you think any game has even the thinnest chance of winning goty besides gta 6 no matter how shit gta 6 might turn out to beeither way why would you give a shit about gay industry awards. i know ac8 is my goty and other people's opinions don't matter
>>587058913>weird nose air intakethey call it a shock cone>is there any jet with that weird nose air intake with delta wingthe fishbed :)
>>587073176>the fishbed :)I might be retarded.
>>587073134>>587072570maybe I misspoke but I meant nomination, as in up there with the other 5. That's how you get the orchestra to play music from the game, no?
I just now found out about being able to buy level 2 parts. My retardation knows no bounds.
>>587073482>boughteded premium currencyyeah no shit
>>587073516I got all that from challenges/battlepass
>>587073482Son't worry anon, we can be retarded together >>587070685
>>587073689>boughteded battlepassyikes yikes yikes
>>587066002Sweats bought the Su-57, casuals bought the F-22/F-35, cancerfags bought the Barricader (then it got nerfed).
>>587073690this games UI is pretty confusing
>>587073806who bought FAG36 Gay?
>>587074109SASM knowers (also gay)
>>587073806>F-35I pity the fools who bought this brick
>>587072570there's something annoying about GTA6 getting best music when it's just a compilation of real world music. fuck off. buy another award or just cut out the middleman and give sabrina carpenter best soundtrack
F-35A when PA??
>>587072570>being a cyberpunk 2077 tier launch.I'm glad gaymers have forgotten the clusterfuck that is a Bethesda release. Launch 2077 was playable on non-legacy consoles, and even on those it didn't have game-destroying or progression-blocking bugs like Todd's greatest hits did. New Vegas also had a cancer release thanks to Creation Engine jank + crunch chaos.
>>587075158For fuck sake please stop promoting samecrafts with different roles, we got enough F15 already, no need for F35 to join this bullshit
F-20 or bust
>>587075206Obsidian having jank ass shit isn't comparable to CP77's launch bro. One team had literally 18 months to cobble whatever together. The other was arguably the second best funded studio on the planet.
Osea should have committed the warcrimes in Inferno. It would have made Pixy's motivations more clear.
>>587075715isn't the bomber squadron you're escorting Osean?
>>587075347All F15s are actually good. None of the F35s are.
>>587071558Migger can turnfight for some fucking reason
>>587075456Nigger NV has an infamously long patchlist for fixing its disastrous launch day shit, launch 2077 was no where near that level of fucked. I'm not debating whether or not it made sense, I'm just stating that there have been far worse launches than polish jank.
>>587075823Yeah but they seem to only hit valid targets unless I missed it. The Belkans are the ones that set the big fires as they retreat. I think it would have hit harder if the allied forces had gone too far or had a few officers go off the rails.
>>587076030I played both day 1, NV was more playable. It just crashed, a lot. It didn't suck me out of it in the same way.
>>587072570Gta 6 could be launch worse than cyberpunk and it will still sweep the awards because it's fucking rigged
>>587076175I forget what they actually hit in-engine, but their dialogue + PJ and Pixy's response makes it pretty clear they're trying to burn the whole city down and don't care about hitting civilians. Stuff likeAllied Forces Bomber>To all bombers, remove Belka’s ability to counterattack. Priority is placed on destruction over accuracy.>Initiate bombing sequence. Drop ‘em all.>Turn it to ashes! That’s not enough! Drop more bombs!Pixy>I thought they were on a precision bombing mission…PJ>They’re just tossin’ bombs all over the place.PJ>You expect me to believe that arson and indiscriminate bombing is war?Allied Forces Bomber>The flames are spreading. Belka’s city is gonna burn to the ground.>[aircraft alarms] Release all bombs before you get shot down!
>every player under 4k points in emergency sortie except me and a some other guypull the trigger, piglet
>>587076185Holy shit buddy, again I'm not arguing about your subjective experience or whether one game was better than another. I also played both on launch and didn't have the same level of bullshit other players experienced. I'm stating that release day Bethesda games had far more and far worse bugs than release day 2077, and not even the legacy darling NV was spared from that curse. As evidenced by Obsidian pushing a patch to fix over TWO FUCKING HUNDRED bugs (over 300 for xbox), the day after it released.
>>587076175it's a in-universe parody of Dresden which was bombed for shit and giggles (i.e. psychological effect)
>>587077139We are definitely in sementic retard spirals at this point. I don't agree with your premise and never will, you won't agree with mine. Let us not screech at each other like MSL's doomed to miss.
>>587076761i just played that mission last night, they also have a line that's pretty much like "fuck the civilians, we need to get the army out of here" kek
>>587076761so why are we suddenly being paired with assholes for this mission and nowhere else?
>>587077089>top score in scramble with a Phantom against Su57slike brother just get close and pop them, their flares aren't gonna hurt you
planes
>>587078598>their flares aren't gonna hurt youSure but they will attract my missles even while 1km away from the plane I'm targeting while my allies' missle somehow completely ignores the flares.
>>587078723I need to step my game up, I only got one level 20 and one level 19 and rest are under 10.
>>587077317>semanticsBuddy, from the beginning I was talking about objective game releases and not subjective experiences. You immediately misconstrued my post and got defensive over Obsidian and NV, and doubled down with 'well akahually'ing about launch NV being more engaging than launch 2077 which was never my argument. All I mentioned was>New Vegas also had a cancer release thanks to Creation Engine jank + crunch chaos.This is an objective and documented assertion.
>>587078723How bad is the A-10 in online? I rarely see anyone flying those any more.
>>587079078Not great I did it for the meme and I can't bring myself to pay up and get it to 20. Only good in Chandelier/Alicorn or Warfare if you're lucky and people leave you alone.Slow attackers are pain.
>>587078850I just pop one HVAA and give it a few seconds before dumping the other and my two standards on it. Either way, at least LAAM faggots have to suffer being bottom of the scoreboard every time, silver lining.
>>587079078It's su-25 but worse, a lot worse, right now.
>>587078723
>>587079359Are you waiting for the quali to start too, buddy?
>>587079359New Ridge Racer looking pretty good? did you intend to post that here F1 bro?
>>587079359What is the world champion hotline of planes?
Is it me or is the F-22 just dogshit to use in Zero? What's up with the weird missile fire angle? Why is my MGP so delayed?
>>587080036Sounds like bay delay.
>>587078723based gripen enjoyer
is the SU-35 worth it when i already have a Typhoon on 10+?
>>587080036the stealth doors have to open first
>>587081269>i already have a Typhoon on 10+why would anyone admit to this?
>>587081269For what? The Typhoon is a fighter and the best LAAMslinger while the Su-35 is just a multirole with mediocre flight performance and special weapons. They are not really comparable.
Mihaly was a multiroleGOD and he tore up Oseans like nothing Trigger only stopped him when he stepped into a fighter
Buddies my Youtube feed is getting a bit too specific
>>587081954Damage multipliers per plane type wasn't in the style at that time
>>587082016I got>Boss nigger themeand>Shadow 22 themeright next to each other on my jewtube feed. I think they know
each match just gives 100 pilot exp rank?that means like 70 matches away from unlocking the growleri really don't want to use the prowler in coop warfare to finish that challenge
>>587082137I don't know about Shadow 22 but boss nigga is a banger theme
>>587082137Topkek wishes he could be as cool as Boss Nigger
>>587082296Weeklies don't expire you have plenty of time
>>587082707only 24 days left in the ace pass season though, i missed a lot of the early season because my tin can and string internet took like two weeks to download the game
>>587080036But you can double tap circle to launch both missiles at the exact same time which is peak aura, and it has a mobius skin, so the F-22 ends up being peak
I still don't know how to use gold blueprints
>>587083143Upgrade plen
>>58708292970 matches to go +5 to actually do the weekly is 3 matches a day. You can do it
Multiple campaigns and free missions and I still never got the Lux Lunae Su-57 skin for shooting down Shadow 24 in 18 either that's wrong or bugged
>>587083732You have to do a full story mode run.
>>587077285which is funny considering even Hitler knew bombing for moral effect didn't do anything
>>587084094Assault records already filled third time's the charm I guess
>>587079970red bull does air races. obviously not as grand as f1 but still pretty cool shit. little japanese dudes pulling 10Gs flying around barriers n shit
>>587083346Just hit okay even if it says it will take me to negative blueprints, and then it will use gold ones instead?
>>587084538"general" blue prints aren't actually general, they're just a third currency of their own that are required for every plane
>>587084604How convoluted!
>>587083128I honestly hate the delay. Im sure the gameplay effect is miniscule but it just feels bad to not launch immediately.
>>587084664yeah it's pretty contrived for no reason.i'd prefer if they would've just not had plane specific blueprints at all considering they're effectively just zoll spends with an extra step
Did you get your ten blueprints today anonHow else are you going to upgrade Su-37 -Y13- and Su-30SM -MHY-
>>587085291The battle pass that they come in will give me 60 blueprints
>>587079078Ass
>>587085291I'm keeping 60 prints warm for the Su-47 -GLT-.
>>587085414>>587086075>they think special planes upgrades are going to be that cheapACI says lol lmaoyou're gonna be paying 60 for the level 10 uncap
>>587086287The Pixy Morgan costs 60 anon...
>>587083459thanks anon
>>587082117The multipliers aren't so much of a problem. The problem is that su35 has poor atg spw
Bake the bread....
>>587086490I'm surprised that I don't see more TLS Morgans. It's almost always a burst missile nugget.
>>587079242>>587079370>>587085978Is there anything that could save it, or is it stuck in the permanently unusable tier like the Intruder (which may be arguably better than the A-10)? I don't really like the Warthog but I feel bad for people who put gold blueprints into it, especially before the daily cap got raised.
>>587088071Maybe giving it a better gun? It already has a "better gun", but it shares it with the frog foot that goes even further and beyond for gun things since frogfoot has gunpods.The a10 was always a congressional jobs program disguised as a war plane.
>>587088071being slow is a cardinal sin in multiplayerif you can't get to stuff before someone else kills it you're not going to have fun
>>587088505Frogfoot manages to stay relevant thanks to godly SPWs, SFFS are unique to it and the Strike Eagle (shame there's no Tier 2 option for those) and MGPs synergize well with its super gun. Giving the A-10 UGBLs or FAEBs could help it find a niche, although only if they drop down its upgrade costs too. 30 generals are better spent on literally anything else, a Tier 1 A-10 wouldn't invalidate the A-6 since that thing gets LAGM/LASMs to specialize with.>>587088465A-10 has always been a meme, but Retaking of Theve 2 and a number of online maps have a bunch of enemies in columns perfect for a straight gun pass.
>>587088505We've seen already that strong guns have potential to be meta in super weapon fights for chewing through bloated TGT hp values. Alicorn sidesteps that because ships are resistant to guns. Arsenal bird is resistant to a10 because it's an aircraft, but the f4 and mig guns tear it apart.The su25 is the king of soloing chandelier. The A10's ability to compete with the su25 for gun attacks is undermined by the absence of gunpods. If they were to further buff the A10's gun to make it comparable to su25 with pods, then it would have a niche vs surface super weapons.
>>587089539And that niche would only exist vs superweapons, even a Fullback with its normal attacker guns can gun down a diff 3 heavy howitzer pretty easily. It has enough HP to survive a UGBL hit but not enough to survive a UGBL hit + 1 short gun burst.
>>587087989TLS requires mouse control and there aren't that many people playing this game that are so soulless.
>>587089213The a10 was simply designed for a specific niche that doesn't exist anymore and should have been retired decades ago. It was designed to fuck over masses of cold war Russian tanks supported by cold war era air defenses. Today it has no place whatsoever on a modern battlefield vs near peer opponents. If you are in a low intensity fight where you are curb stomping goat herders, then you are better off with drones or a turbo prop like a super tucano.
>playing ace combat for over two decades>have not progressed in aerial tactics beyond "lmao i turn towards the arrow that shows where the enemy is"why am i such a smoothbrain
>>587089762It doesn't require it. I shoot a good number of opponents down with game pad and expert controls.
>>587088071fuck a10 enjoyers. shitty plane only good for killing poorly armed sand nigs anyways
>>587090292For what it's worth, most air combat maneuvers center around ways to overcome the maneuvering limitations of of your plane or ways to help optimize usage of your kinetic energy. On the far extreme of zero-g 6 degrees of freedom space combat, everything devolves to "lmao just point your nose at him and shoot". Ace combat's silly flight model with insane thrust to weight ratios with planes that can pull more g's than missiles isn't quite space combat levels of brain dead, but it's pretty fucking far down on the scale.If you get a game pad with back paddle buttons and can map one of the paddles to triangle, then it's easy to track opponent's movements while keeping your thumb on the trigger.
>>587090181>The a10 was simply designed for a specific niche that doesn't exist anymore The niche of a radarless gun attacker didn't exist even back when the A-10 first flew. It was outdated from day 1.
>>587090181>>587090806The worst part is that even from its birth the A-10 was bad at its job. Even during trials where the A-10 was given the best possible conditions and multiple gun passes, it managed just north of a 50% hit rate on stationary target tanks in calm weather conditions. Of the tanks it did knock out none were damaged beyond a day's repair, and all were old model M47s that didn't adequately represent modern Warsaw armor.I'll always shill that the F-16s were better and more successful at wild weaseling than the Warthogs. Truly the original Ace Combat memeplane.
>>587091119i actually wonder how much real air combat maneuvers work with the ace combat flight modeli feel like have the disengagement maneuvers wouldn't work because you'll just get a laam up the ass instead of doing circles ad infinitum
>>587091730obviously energy management goes out the window, so tactics based on energy traps are worthless but bfm still works in the sense of out-positioning your opponent. you can still do a high scissor on a turning opp and it'll work because it's just pursuit tactics
>>587091730Its the other way around, disengaging actually works in ace combat because you have a chance to kinematically dodge a missile, that would get you killed in real life if somehow you get to merge with someone.
>>587092714also you can just high-g turn to instantly notch every missile in the game, even upgraded QAAMs will miss as long as you don't continue to turn into their flight path
>>587092714>>587092917>>587092963thank you sirsi will try to apply myself to git gud
>>587093291This >>587002383 legitimately works in order to break the death spirals
>>587092963Unless you get fucked by the netcode and the game decides you die anyway.
>matching cancelledOnline really is the gift that keeps on giving
>>587093505Lol no it's bullshit. What works is rolling in literally any direction other than towards the arrow. No planes in game have such wide turn circles as depicted in the image.
>>587094676you can do a high yoyo just fine, just do a high-g turn instead of a regular turn if they've got a tight radius
>get an emergency sortie>make a public party to share>everyone readies up>try to sortie but immediately get an error>know I have to log out and log in again to fix it>say "Sorry" before doing soMan, fucking Bamcode. I hate feeling like a dick.
How much copium do I need for the YF-23 to be playable next season
>>587094785You can do a high yoyo just fine, it's just not going to help you in any way. Missles can't track well enough to hit a target when you shoot it from within their turn circle.>But you can gun them downNot for long enough to kill any plane
>>587095128ideally you'd end up on their tail and can shotgun them with it. it's just an attempt to pincer the opp, better than high-g turning around each other until you end up in a joust or on the ground. it'll work sometimes, sometimes it won't
>>587095772turning up and over in general, not just a yoyos, is a good way to force kills in a dogfight. idk why but people get disoriented when you fly over them
>>587096485>miggerpostingFuck off, there's nothing impressive about killing a multirole with a fighter and eating two regular missles while at it.
>>587096667cry about it
>>587096667this one reminds me of you
>>587096786>>587097002sad
the worst part about warfare is red teamers pounding my ass while I just try to enjoy the best pve online has to offer. it's astounding how they fumbled assault.
>>587097931brings me joy actually
>bamco nerfs Jammers which are mainly a problem in warfare>does nothing about LAAMboats which suck the fun out of every game modeWhen are Kono and friends doing another Online playthrough? I'll immediately spend 30 gold blueprints and all my XP items into a MIGger just for the chance to shit on them.
>>587095051You need 1000 paypigcoins and a dream
Single pass XMAA never gets old
>there are miggers in this very thread>they are proud of it>they even go so far as to give advice to other playersembarassing tbqhwyf
Can the next thread be MIGger edition? I don't own one but it'd be funny to openly acknowledge the overpowered faggotry.
Yes I did use the Migger to grind for my plenfu
SOME PEOPLE DECEIVE US WITH LIES!
>>587101503It's honestly not even that strong, the Typhoon is better in almost every way.
F-5 needs to be in game already so we can have the true nugget flight experience!
>>587102228The migger's more memeable just because of how early everyone gets access to it and how cheap it is. It's also overtuned in online because it turns better than it should/how it could in previous games.
>>587102228Mig has better high g turns, QAAMs and better low speed maneuverability over Typhoon.
>>587102451It turns better than it should and it's surprisingly slow in online. But overall It's not that strong.>>587102593Yeah but the Typhoon has fuckoff acceleration that makes it win any ratefight which is honestly more important. You don't want to be slow in Warfare because you'll get picked off by LAAMs.
>>587102751All laamboats are stink, but mig stinks the most of them all.
What plane should I use for my Attacker run? I'm thinking Su-25
>>587103908A-6
I went all-in on the Migger day 1 expecting it to be the fastest plen like AC7,why does PA spout lies and vague bars/descriptions,why must we rely on ac8-database
