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Previous: >>586743292

>What... is this?
Put simply, a simulation of Pro Evolution Soccer being competed between teams which are embodiments of boards of the 4chan imageboard. The players represent facets of each board's culture. All of the matches are AI versus AI. However, humans "manage" each team, creating their tactics and giving input during games as they happen to make substitutions and tactical changes as they see fit.
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/FAQ

>Where can I watch the cup?
http://isthisliv.com/4cc/stream.html (4CC)
http://cytube.implying.fun/c/vgleague (VGL)
http://vtleague.420699.xyz/ (VTL)

>Ongoing Cups
http://implyingrigged.info/wiki/2026_4chan_Autumn_Babby_Cup

>Ongoing Invitationals
None

>Upcoming Cups
http://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vg/_League_27_Qualifiers
http://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vg/_League_27
http://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vt/_League_12

>Upcoming Invitationals
http://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Akko_League_VII:_/fluff/_Bottomed_Girls
http://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Gaping_Open
http://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Divegrass_Before_Christmas_7:_Melty_Under_The_Christmas_Tree
http://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Tag_Team_Cup_7
http://implyingrigged.info/wiki/LAN_Party_the_4th:_Ultimate_Kartin_Tourney

>Wiki:
http://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Main_Page

>Sekkrit Code
37pebis

>DLC Password
divegrass

>stats
http://isthisliv.com (4CC)
http://sql.implying.fun (VGL)

>Booru
http://isthisliv.com/booru

>VOD Archive
http://implying.fun

>Other videos
http://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Videos

>PES Info
http://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Pro_Evolution_Soccer_2017
http://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Pro_Evolution_Soccer_2019
http://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Pro_Evolution_Soccer_2021

>roster quiz (VGL)
http://vglquizsloppa.pages.dev

>Previously
Autumn Day 4 - the rape of ses
the split is over. VGL once again makes majority of the discussion
VGL27 teams confirmed. /mori/ debut delayed
Mobabowl 2027 basically confirmed
Anon installs PES14 again
shitposting
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>average 4CC team aesthetics
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I am raped!
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>>586966483
For all VGL related discussion, please refer to >>586157768
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>>586966756
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>>586966687
we know >>586966756
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So who do you think is gonna make it out of their group for sure in VGL27?
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when was the last time /s4s/ saw an elite cup?
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>>586966672
Putting the Chad in ChadderP
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>>586966940
the team you hate the most
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>>586966940
The 19 merchants and the tryhards
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>>586966991
They were in summer
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>>586966672
Reminds me of that one team featuring the blue hedgehog
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>>586967064
me on the left
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>>586966672
Isn’t he from Pokemon
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>>586967116
fuck, I meant, an elite knockout.
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>>586966672
you wouldn't get it zoomie.
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>>586967242
winter 23
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>>586966940
I can point you towards who won't; autos are notoriously bad in 19, so you can discard all those teams, maybe the God auto will manage to sneak in if it lands in a weak group.
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I wanna fuck horses
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>>586967337
You say that, but isn't 19 regarded as one of the most arbitrary ones where you can only make a meta export but livemanaging impact is minuscule compared to let's say 17? So who's to say you can't just get a decent 442 auto, roll decent seeds and advance?
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You're gay, Pete.
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>/mlp/ drawing to chadderp
fraudpow
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>>586967638
we love pete around these parts
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Who here /igg/
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>VGL
commentators talk about raping dead kids
>4CC
commentators talk about jacking off horses
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>>586967952
I was the only one present in the previous /igg/ thread
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>>586967992
>raping dead kids
How can you even do that? They can't resist
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abysmaldogshit.jpg
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>>586967638
When is that stupid cat going to kill me?
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>>586966672
I sent him an updated model for this player yesterday based on his wiki request so I don't know why it wasn't used.
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>>586967543
Because the 'co, just like /admin/, never makes meta formations for the autos, they are just funny gimmicky stuff that BoB dreamed about or that Streakie hallucinated while he watched the Jets lose again.
The /cm/ auto is an oddity, not the rule.
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>>586968096
Sad. At least short form incremental games are taking off on Steam.
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ChadderPbros...
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>hmm, today I'll throw the game at 90
This is your guys' goat?
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>goes +2
>scored on immediately
the actual STATE of faggerP fans
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>go +2
>rape with the 90'+
OOO KWABBERP
another timeless classic, I KNEEL
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>>586968293
the /sthg/ special
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>>586968434
The GOAT of fucking up
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how do they do it?
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>>586968546
And the best vtl has to offer
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>no goals all match
>rape 90+ for a win
These reruns are getting stale.
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Another masterclass from ChadderP
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>>586968351
If that's the case then definitely. Strange if they would keep at it even for 19, if they just made a bunch of diamond 442/433s autos would definitely be competitive I think
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Who booked this crap?
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no bros you don't get it
now /mlp/ can die more spectacularly thanks to all the hope on sunday
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>>586968819
>Tonight... you.
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>>586969630
I was going to re-open the stream when the /mlp/fags left but that's just a double whammy I don't have the mental fortitude to tolerate today.
Kill all horsefaggots and gas all Poles.
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>>586969723
KWAB
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>>586968819
>deleted
they don't want us to know
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A Polish man and a German man walk into a bar
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>Nagisa out of position
>possession long wide with a narrow diamond formation
>conservative pressing but with gegenpress AI
>subs a medal
>+2 at the end in a drawn game
How does he do it?
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>>586969897
It was working for awhile for some reason, then the last two things happened.
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who dis?
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sentenced to 100 hours of polish noise before the match starts
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>>586970306
jane mobage
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>>586970037
It really was a classic pink betrayal that did them in
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>>586775392
what are their teams?
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>>586971356
so you don't know?
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>>586971356
Reso manages /vg/ and Bird manages /vp/
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>>586971420
I do now
>>586971471
thanks
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cloud
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>>586971945
>raped vgl
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>>586971945
>many watch rance
>yes rape
>another free porn
>/mlp/ wins cup
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>>586971945
>gacha talk
Yeah...
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>>586971945
>raped vgl
>/vg/ last
>board current split
>/mlp/ wins
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>>586971945
>/zzz/ league
>chadderp approved
>discuss penguin
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how do you lose with this
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>>586972506
You tell me
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>>586966756
great discussion going on in that thread
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>>586972506
Huh?
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>>586971945
>4chan commentate rapes things
>aesthetics represent kwabooty
>namefags straight australian
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>>586971356
both manage /vp/
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>>586972506
CANTI
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>>586972547
Compared to the RIVETING discussion in this thread
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>>586972753
>literal 7 month old screenshot
this isn't the own you think it is
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>>586972753
>offseason discussion is shit
woah brainiac you really figured this out
clearly we need more splits so both leagues can have more offseason discussion
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>>586972826
7 months ago was the middle of the VGL
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>>586972547
>>586972753
raped, both of you
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GRACIAS UNDERTAKER
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>>586972506
huh what you mean
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>>586972905
In April?
either way it's just a US/Euro date/month being switched meme
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>>586966756
Still not using your thread, thread splitter
>>586968293
It's crazy how lazy this guy is
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>>586972753
Ok Euro
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>>586972826
Don't know if Amerifat or joking about Amerifat
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>>586972970
so you don't know
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utuh teapot
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>>586972970
yeah
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>>586972970
huh?
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>KWAB of the day?
/pw/
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>3-4-3 /pw/
What did PES mean by this?
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>>586973453
this guy slaps your girl's ass. wyd?
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>>586971945
>free porn
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>>586973453
can't wait to see him rape Nash
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>>586972970
Yeah
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>streamer says dimes
I don't like him
no, you are the raped one actually
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Time for the best match of the day
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>>586974041
But are you a victim?
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can we get cipher back, what is this streamer
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>>586974041
you dislike him because he mentioned a /pw/ player?
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>>586974041
It's the /pw/ match and they literally have a player named Dimes
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>>586974089
For /yu/
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>>586974148
german
And I'd rather have a bored german than a vtuber tryhard attentionfag
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CuriousAnon sounds like a variation of TMA
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>>586848645
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>german guy sounds like he's raped 24/7
>austrian guy is livid but would rather discuss raping little girls
what's wrong with them
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>>586974498
blame picrel
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>>586974490
this is just love & deepspace
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Beaches, pedos, trans, slums and CBD.
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>>586974498
he sounds fine to me
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>>586974812
teams for this feel?
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Here's how to cum so hard you die:
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>>586974121
>>586974157
>>586974228
if /pw/ had a player called "i like taking dicks up the ass" I'd also dislike the streamer saying the name
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I have vgltards so much
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>>586974812
good thing im only one of those
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VGL gave us Cipher, RHS, Reso and TheBird as commentators and steamers.
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this is boys vs girls match
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:gays:
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>>586974940
/trv/
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>>586975104
Will gladly take Sou, QD, Blinky and even Boris over them, thanks.
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time for the drawfag to pick the pen back up
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>>586975104
>VGL only gave us shit commentators and streamers
kekypow
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>being down to /y/
>on a -1 5-2-3
Sugoi...
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>>586975263
>even Boris
>even
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>>586974850
His baseline excitement level is pretty low and he lets other commentators talk all over him. Sad, because if his demeanor weren't so german he'd be one of the best.
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this shit is so ass
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>>586975263
The order you put them in tells me everything I need to know about your shitskin self
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>>586975263
>>586975104
Good streamers/commentators: QD, Crimson, Toki, DF, Boris, Reso, rhs, Limbab, Bird, Mossy
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>>586975697
>Toki
>rhs
>Bird
>Mossy
lol
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just came back from wageslaving
how's the day so far?
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>>586975807
gay
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>>586975697
>Limbab
lol
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>>586975697
>half of that list
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>>586975263
Boris clears both lists you newfag retard.
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>>586975807
jaypee is back
chadderp lost
Kevin is getting Gunted tonight
the gayby is tied
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>>586975697
Oh, and BoB
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>>586975697
Don't forget Denko!
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>>586975697
Good bait
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>>586975974
Boris ain't got it no more grandpa. He can't even see the ball.
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All commentators suck.
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>>586975910
>>586976189
Is the bait good because I genuinely believe in what I said?
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>>586976251
this but unironically
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Will we have any good commentary today?
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we NEED the clanker commentators
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>>586975974
I like Boris, but he is kind of turning into a grumpy old man who doesn't get excited for stuff anymore.
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>>586976410
only 'kento can save us.
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>>586976410
We will when you BEE
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>>586976264
Yes
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>>586976503
I AM 'bee', statement doesn't change though
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>>586976457
His enthusiasm wanes with his hairline.
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In lieu of namefagging, here instead are some objective criteria for what makes a good streamer:
>broad board/meme knowledge, specific knowledge not required
>divegrass knowledge to understand what is good play and what is not
>good command of the commentary box, carries most of the talking while remaining neutral and excited
>a few "oops i rigged it" or "controller no" moments without killing a team too badly (no mistakes is very boring)

For commentators:
>some specific meme knowledge
>divegrass knowledge to understand what is good play and what is not
>lets the pbp carry the talking in the first half, then pipes up more in the 2nd half to provide blanket analysis of what happened
>either brings excitement in this analysis, or is loud and makes jokes
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>>586976264
The co was right about RHS commentary.
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>>586976748
What did they say?
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>>586976410
The color guy on right now is good though?
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>>586976735
>>>>>>>>
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>>586976410
I'm looking at the list and it may or may not be possible
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>>586976410
first game wasn't that bad. SDA tried his best in the second. then the day went off a cliff
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>>586976457
No, he keeps saying he's grumpy and old, which is what is detracting from him being a good streamer. The worst thing he does as a streamer is do color commentary.
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>>586976806
Objectively bad but funny
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>>586976735
>>586975697
Oh yeah I also remembered Beebs. BoB does good tactical commentary, Toki's a decent jokester sometimes, DF is just competent talker and pleasant to listen to, as is Crimson, QD's a good all-round guy, Boris is a trove of knowledge, Limbab's loud, his enthusiasm is infectious and some tactical commentary, Reso and Bird may not be as memorable but decent talkers, not very loud and have plenty of topics on hand, comfy to listen to, rhs unhinged jokes and plenty of topics, Mossy good talker, supports the conversation so generally works well with streamers.
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PES is showing /u/ a massive middle finger again.
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I would be the best commy but I'm too shy to share my voice >w<
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Days 3 and 4 are normally the death slot for the commentary. It's not the first matches, it's not grip weekend, Day 3 is a Sunday so people can't sign up, and historically signups are at the lowest for any given cup on Friday on the second week.

Also it's a babby, so more new commentators and (heaven forbid) newer streamers. I see no real problems with whats going on.
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>>586977552
'gen...
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>>586977583
>new commentators
Where?
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>>586977552
*rapes u*
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>>586977406
You know, that's fair
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>>586972753
sex with denkos oc
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>>586977535
Good
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>>586977691
Okay, new might be a stretch, but less common commentators that aren't part of the usual rotation during elites. There's a few of them later today.
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Assalamu alaikum, it's time to genocide Whites.
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>CT on defenders
Isn't that against the rules?
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>/co/ ragequit
ok
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>>586978427
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>>586978684
So it is illegal
>Got Crimson to intervene
Thanks Crimson
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>>586978684
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I JUST GOT CAUGHT CHEATING LOLE
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>nearly an hour late btw
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>>586978427
>>586978684
What does this even do?
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>>586979443
CT makes it so the player highlighted won't defend at all
Meaning defenders with that instruction on won't bother defending and will let attackers through with no effort whatsoever
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>>586979443
Counter target on a player means they don't do anything on defense so putting it on a defender is a throw tactic
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>>586979443
makes the defenders giga retarded, it's literally a tactic so meme that /pol/ and /w/ got it banned from garbage day because it's so effective at losing games.

/w/ and /wsg/ also had a historical match that didn't* matter* so they used it to great* outcry*.
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>>586979443
Making a player the target man for the counterattack, so he wanders up the pitch and stops defending almost completely, ignoring opposing players and the ball unless it literally rolls over to him out of possession.

Needless to say, used on a defender, especially CB, it usually leads to disastrous consequences.
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>>586979658
>>586979618
>>586979579
>>586979564
so /co/ was trying to throw the game?
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>>586979779
Seems that way, which is a big question mark when they already can't afford to lose this game
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>>586979779
they were likely trying to keep their fullbacks up as pseudo-wingers since they already have 3 CBs in the middle
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>>586979779
Apparently, I don't know why would anyone use this in a competitive tournament. It's disastrous with no gain whatsoever.
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>>586979779
Probably not intentionally but it's a weird tactic. They could do a fluid with those players up as wingers out of possession.
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>>586979957
>>586979779
>>586979904
To be fair they were running a 5ATB and it was only on their fullbacks, they were just trying to do some experimental psuedo 3-5-2 shit rather than throw the game.
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>>586980305
I would have to ask if they've ever heard of "attacking fullbacks"
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>>586980834
My son!
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Last digit is /w/'s card count today
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>>586981127
attacking fullbacks pull the midfield back which is something you might not want in the attack
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>>586981316
you BETTER fucking deliver
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>>586981316
>6 cards
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>>586980305
>>586981127
I would say the mistake wouldn't be that they intended to do it, just that they literally pushed some wrong buttons. There is no way any manager, even a new one, would willingly put CT on fullbacks and it doesn't make sense for /co/ to throw at this point.
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>>586975276
I didn't really know what to draw here, so have some jiggle physics paizuri.
https://files.catbox.moe/a2wtyj.png
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>>586981816
KWAB
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>>586981816
>jiggle physics paizuri
holy based
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>>586981816
I JUST came you can't do this to me
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>>586981816
WEW
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The failed 40 Cakes header.

https://files.catbox.moe/a9ognk.mp4
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>>586981816
God I wish I was Kevin...I'd trade all of the gay rape for a chance to get tittyfucked by jiggle physics every single day.
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>>586975552
made for kissing
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>>586982541
And benuldy for /jp/ earlier.

https://files.catbox.moe/4xfglq.mp4
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>>586982568
time to bend over, then
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go /an/!
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>>586981957
bro your NNN?
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>>586983027
I beat it on the first day, don't worry
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>>586983027
nonstop nut november?
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>>586979443
It gets you this.
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>>586983223
I'm going to fuck this squirrel
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>>586983307
me too thanks
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Nice Nature November!
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[WAIT HOLD ON in german]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GW6sLrK40k
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reddit november
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1:02 new fastest goal record after 9 years
/an/ >outdoor cat
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he said the line
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>>586983784
>he
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>>586983854
>has
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cards???
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>>586983913
>no
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total feline domination
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>>586984108
penis
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>>586984108
goals
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turns out 4-5-1 with all destroyer is bad who woulda thunk
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>>586984146
>>586983854
redditmaster is a tranny?
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>>586982767
New fastest goal!

https://files.catbox.moe/4buvwf.mp4
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>>586981816
Gunt is a forced meme
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toxoGODS...
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>>586984124
based
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>>586984356
forced right down your throat
*rapes you*
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Good job so far, /an/
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>>586984303
It could have at least been funny if it was a card-fest, but it's just boring.
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>>586984401
fat bitch
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>>586977535
God needs to finish the job on Sunday.
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Did Streak make this auto?
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>>586984496
Who is that chap, RHS or Potato?
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langball really circumvents this sort of hard pressing
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>135 minutes, all-destroyers, ONE(1) card
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>>586984518
4-5-1's aren't good at high press is the thing. a 4-3-3 might have been what they were looking for.
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>we could've had /c/ instead of /w/ in this cup
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>>586984921
Would DDL be a hard counter to lang on 17 or would it still be OP?
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Why was /w/ forced to come back
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>>586985383
all-night sex with ume while saki is forced to watch
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>>586985259
>we could've had [generic anime team] instead of [generic anime team]
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>>586985523
The superior sister.
>>586985576
/w/ is way more boring desu which is something
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>>586985576
/c/ is better than /w/, yes.
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>>586985576
>generic anime team
/w/ is just glorified cardheads. At least /c/ has some actual aesthetics.
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>>586985383
Its manager really wanted the team to play again, please understand
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>no cards
>no dimes
>no points
Fire Crimson for promising exodia with this shit auto
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I saw wallabys at a zoo once, and it was absurd to me how they can hop around without hurting themselves when their nuts are so massive they drag on the ground.
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>>586984329
So the freekick strat was the trick to bringing down those times. I wonder what they'll invent next.
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So what does Destroyer actually do? It doesn't seem to make players tackle
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Update the scores on the wiki, please and thank you.
No, I will not BEE.
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>>586986107
At least for DMFs on 17 it should
There's been countless suspensions for 17 Destroyer DMFs
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My tinfoil theory is that even with the whack patch, PES doesn't recognize the player style, and it's treating them as blank players.
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>>586985383
Fat bitch
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>>586986394
Isn't that normally how it works?
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>>586986432
KYS
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>the broken monitor of /w/
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>>586985523
>>586985669
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>>586986536
That's how it should be, but the whack patch (allegedly) allows for the playstyle to translate to all players on the field.
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>>586986682
>Chinese special forces abducting Mbappe for his trial in Beijing
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>>586986107
Basically win the ball in deep/defensive part of midfield, then pass it to literally anyone else
>>586986394
This is a great take, though it's likely wrong. Hoping someone from the programming side of admin joins this convo to explain how it "works."
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>>586986394
i've seen players acting more retarded because of that shitty patch
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>KWAB of the day?
Crimson for hyping up this auto
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>>586986394
or 17 is just dogshit
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>>586987068
He's not alone. Slander them all, or charge him rent.
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>outdoor cat hattrick
time for the other cat to do the same
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>>586987186
Discordant...
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>>586987186
i am saying this
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>>586987228
>put a cat in your team
>win
it's that simple
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>not even a single red
I want my money back
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>>586985669
>>586985679
>>586985708
/c/ might be the least interesting team in the cup. At least /w/ is novel.
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>>586987186
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>>586987583
no one says this
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>>586986920
>allegedly
big emphasis because the only proof we have of it doing anything is some SEAfag trans using claude
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>>586987414
lynx?
>>586987583
>countless cardheads and just being a worse /wg/ is novel
the absolute state of 4cc
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>>586987583
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>>586987414
How many teams have cat. from the memory:
>/mu/
>/an/
>/wsg/
>/bant/
>/b/
>/gd/ (rip)
>/vmg/
>/vr/
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>>586987583
if only /w/ could put what they were supossed to
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>>586987971
Why does [s4s] not have Rupert?
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>/c/ vs /w/
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>>586987971
vm has "LET ME WIN"
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>>586988185
is that a k*monomimi? I was only counting true cats
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>set up an auto which just SCREAMS "bro please play short vs me the export literally doesn't make sense if you play lang"
>everyone plays lang and kills you
what was the plan?
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>>586988390
literally this cat
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>>586988486
Plan?
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>>586988640
ok, he can join the club
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>>586988486
the what?
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/h/ is getting raped...
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>>586990352
(they like that)
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>>586990352
bet they like it
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>>586986394
I strongly doubt that, because of how wingmid Offensive Fullbacks play
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I prefer to watch and assist
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/h/ is choking!
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another //h/anny/ masterclass choke
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>>586991123
WTF they can't do that don't they know it's banned in the UK?
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>>586991375
what isn't banned in the UK at this point?
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>no Sandstorm joint anthem
You had one job.
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>Have cat on team, get goals
Its just that simple
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>>586992281
Being muslim and stabbing and raping kids
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We need a. gif of floating Ride
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reso's pc has toxoplasmosis
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/wsr/ FIRST EVER GOAL

TOOK A WHILE, BUT THANKS
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>>586987971
/qst/ has Huanliuxue
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so why isn't Sou streaming again?
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>>586993305
jeets got him
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love live just scored
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>>586993305
He's busy testing for /4ccg/
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>>586993505
today too?
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holy shit, /wsr/ got the hit or miss girl
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>>586993634
troon screenshot
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>>586994678
your screenshot?
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/mu/ would've won with kpop on the team
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Standings after Day 4
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time to put gusic to sleep.....
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>>586995016
vm is through
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robbed
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>>586975049
I of course could never admit I forgot about that /pw/ player lest I be laughed at for my mistake
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>>586993305
Hyp mines
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>>586995016
And by pots

>>586995173
Well, my apologies. Still a bit bummed by what happened that I forgot that.
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>>586995449
I haven't seen a single drop of hyp this cup tho
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>>586995506
Take it easy on him, he's making it all on his phone to stay in theme
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>Match of the day? (there's a skeleton in your room edition)
>/jp/ /s4s/
>/mlp/ /cm/
>/3/ /pw/
>/u/ /y/
>/co/ /tv/
>/an/ /w/
>/h/ /vm/
>/mu/ /wsr/
>Goal of the Day?
>KWAB Team of the Day?
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>>586995449
get some help
(no seriously get some people to help you so you can stream thanks)
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>>586995927
/3/ - /pw/
the penalty against /s4s/
/admin/ for hyping up /w/
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There is no garbage day because uhhhh because because ummmmmmm because
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>>586995993
fat bitch
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he said the line
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>>586996017
How do you suggest he gets them? Potato's been begging for help in the hyp mines for years and achieved nothing.
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>>586996491
meanwhile VGL gets new hyp guys every other season
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>>586995449
Please, get some help. I miss wrasslin. No, I will not BEE, I'm already BEEing for other things I don't have the time
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>>586995927
u - y
Rigged Polls goal against /h/
cm
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FB, Autumn 26 Day 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PeudhncSbI
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>>586996642
Only if a team that has their own aes slaves wins
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>>586996897
actually no, the previous VGL had at least 3 new guys.
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>>586997158
Not making hyp though
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>>586997260
the 3 new guys were accepted exactly because Aquantis pulled out with hyp and no wanted to help.
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>>586995449
Sou you haven't answered the question
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>>586975345
sorry you didn't like it. I kept reading the thread and tried to sound a bit more hyped as time passed. If you have any more criticism please let me know so I can improve on it for the future.
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>>586997903
You were fine
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>>586995506
Its called Five Dolla Hyp for a reason, and that reason is that it's better than nothing!

>>586996017
Instructions unclear

>>586996491
>>586996657
I AM THE HELP Different people have different degrees of availability. Which is why im the one shitting out hyp this season instead of Potato. I just have a bad habit of not reaching out to niggas for voice over stuff but thats mostly because I'm mainly focused on gathering clips when I do the hyp.It does not help that most of the time when im making hyp that the biggest time consumption isn't usually within sony vegas but the fact that I have to catch myself and realize that I'm just watching matches instead of shaving clips.
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>>586998421
Serious question, is potato ok?
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>/jp/ resting all 5 medals
Would a team seriously do this? Crimson punish CT in defense but wouldn't punish FIVE medal rest?
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>>586998830
Potato's fine but he needs some time off because of IRL stuff.

>>586997890
Which question? I thought it was rhetorical.
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>/u/ was known as the keeperbab team in their prime
>now teams are keeperbabbying them
my how the turntables, is this karmic retribution coming for them?
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>>586999161
from >>586935401
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>>586998861
>Would a team seriously do this?
Not the first time this happened
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/2018_4chan_Summer_Cup_Group_H#/int/_v_/tv/
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>>586998861
one is legal, the other is not, and there's a very good strategic reason to do that.
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>>586984329
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQX7Zub0ZdI

For over 15 years the 4cc has been running. By creating two Elite and two Babby Cups, as well as implementing the Fetus functioning as a qualifier you get 5 cups a year. With so many cups having gone by, a lot of records have been set. Most goals, most red cards, most viewers, but one record stands above the rest: the fastest goal. Every game a team has mere seconds to score, or else their shot at the record will vanish. In these very precious seconds everything has to go right. The passing, the dribbling, the shot on goal. Everything has to be perfect. Let's take a look at the plays that made it onto the leaderboards. The leaderboards of the fastest goal in 4cc history.
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>>586999507
/tv/ was already dead on that match though, so it didn't matter for them.
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/w/ is probably the biggest failure of an auto I've ever seen. Spam destroyer to get suspensions but get 0 suspensions and only 2 cards in 2 games. Why was getting suspended even an objective for a team? Be set up exclusively to counter lang ball but get raped to death by lang ball. Be a 4-5-1 because apparently /w/ is the 4-5-1 team so they have to be a 4-5-1 but give them none of the benefits of 4-5-1s because you want to spam destroyer.
I know /admin/ never tests autos and just throws them together based on what they think is funny but can they please make some basic 4-4-2 diamonds like the VGL does. Just a couple. Stop giving teams meme shit. It doesn't even encourage caretakers to become managers, they keep caretaking and just want to kill themselves.
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sentenced to suule rambling on first bait
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>>586999507
Suule just mentionned that game and said it sucked because it felt like a false record.
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>>587000638
Manage faggot
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>>587000638
Does the 4cc not allow caretakers to submit their own autos?
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>>587000638
manual > auto
always
you don't wanna bee then don't complain
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>>587000970
no, anon, there's only one serious league which is effectively full-auto.
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>>587000871
I do. Another team. But I watch the games because I like watching divegrass. It's not enjoyable watching meme autos get raped to death. If /admin/ hates autos so much they set them up to get raped then just ban caretaking. If they don't actually hate autos then they should actually try to make real ones.
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Kwabmin still ignoring the commentary quality
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>>587001127
Grim
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>>587000785
reminds me when we had to put asterisks in records pages to denote games that were memed from the get go
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>>586996642
Weren't you niggers bitching about the /1992/ themed hyp anyways?
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>>587000785
>>587000167
>>586999507
It still sucks and I wish we could just put in /tv/ vs /sp/ as our biggest win because that was earned and entertaining. This was just /int/ bailing /tv/ out from being a wooden spoon, providing one of the worst matches to watch.
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>>587001595
yes because it sucked
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>>587001595
more soulful than whatever David Cuck a.k.a. aKWABtis ever made
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>>587001949
>soulful
ok, but was it good?
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>>587002053
For a hyp made in less than a week, yes
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>>587002053
Soul trumps good/bad
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>>587002161
>for a hyp made in less than a week
so it wasn't good.
>>587002171
"soul" in this context is just cope for shortcomings.
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>>586999668
Usually managers do that when they have carded medals that are at risk of getting suspended. It's very unusual to rest the whole medal lineup, especially since /jp/ didn't pick up a single card since the cup began, and especially when what's at stake is babby knockouts which are inherently less important than elite ones.
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>>587002373
let it go dave
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>>587001949
soulful is just "low quality"
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/llsifg/ manager please add her to the team
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>>587002505
not her
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/1992/ raped Aquantis exponentially harder than Mornya, despite the latter being the manager of the team that came up second during VGL25
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>>587003110
how so?
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>>587003110
elaborate
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>>587003262
Killed hypes, killed /alg/
All for horse pussy
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>>587003110
ok, how you know?
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>>587003470
>preferring the new toy over the old one
a tale as old as time. Besides maybe he actually is busy. Fucker posted from damn business/first class like every week back on gookshit. It's not hard to believe he is actually a busy guy
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>>587000638
I just consider stepping-up as a manager after that cup - even if /w/ have to start an uphill battle from the fetus, which is less than ideal. And to be frank, it was the scenario I knew that would happened upon dissecting that export and I'll stop at that.
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>>586999412
>/u/ getting keeperbabied
never forget who started the trend
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4cc commentary is leagues better than VGL and VTL
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>>587003892
Your friendlies export was pretty good, I'm surprised you didn't try to steop up and submit for this cup
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>>587004451
:snaathumbsup:
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>>587004451
i'm taking Cipher and Limbab over Suule and L'av every single time
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>>587004451
:snaacockup:
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>>587003816
I wish he would hire me
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>>587004451
:snaacardup:
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4cc memes are simply better, they have story behind them, they don't feel dated at all
vgl and vtl are just models of girls that will be forgotten in a few months for a new girl, and copyrighted music.
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>>587004451
:snaarapingsnaa:
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>>587005254
YAHOO
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>>587005254
like that one story from the haboo raids, do you also remember that?
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>>587005309
/vmg/'s anthem has people posting YAHOOO despite the team being new, that's flexibility.
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>>587005254
This but unironically
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you did roll for her, right?
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>>587004904
L'av is pretty good, he understand the ebb and flow of the game, and for an ESL he does well picking his spots so he doesn't run over his words.
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>>587005551
I'm saving my carats
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say the line
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>>587005254
Some of the older vgl teams are also like that, yeah
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>>587005254
I miss the good ol' VGL memes like nigger lol and shiddy
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>>587002696
Nico was part of the team's starting roster, a long time ago.
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>>587005589
L'av is high quality. Too good for VGL.
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>>587005551
is that what you call fapping?
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>>587005254
>I just want to jack myself off memes from 10 years ago that their own boards doesn't even use anymore
lol cope
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>>587005551
I need a "de-zoomifying mod" if there is one.
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>>587006103
I think it's called rape. She doesn't seem to be enjoying it.
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>>587006131
zoomers are hot though
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KWABoTY should go to /uma/ for that dogshit localisation alone
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reddit hours
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>>587006121
You know you could visit those boards anytime and bring something new right?
You have no history at all, most of the "history" and flair of vgl and vtl teams is manager drama that happens behind the screens.
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>>587006131
If Aoba can put CJ into the game I assume he can do some dialogue swaps.
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>>587005589
He understands ebb and flow but he tries to backseat manage too much. That's a very fixable issue though.
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>>587006265
girls do prefer bigger dicks after all
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>>587006131
>green light
/pw/bros....
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>>587006418
>You know you could visit those boards anytime and bring something new right?
oh I see so the 4cc doesn't have memes because you're supposed to find memes that aren't in the 4cc yourself. very esoteric.
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>>587006469
gays prefer to go bigger too.
Not a single living creature of a size similar to a human or bigger would be like "oh yeah I need that 2 inch DEVASTATOR for 2 minutes of pure ecstasy".
If you were born too small you can try bottoming I guess.
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>>587006721
I meant participating in those boards, using them, contribuiting.
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>>587006461
Good point. I generally think commentators backseat manage accidentally when they're attempting to analyze the tactics that HAVE happened and COULD happen next.
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>>587006323
>>587005612
>>
Commentary Ranking
>King Peter
SDA, Sou
>Peter
Boris, Kregg, Crimson, QD, Paval
>Stewie
Jenseits, Equinox, Groudon , CuriousAnon, Shadowborg, Prozach, Legendairyman, Yutz
>Chris
Blinky, Tenko, Resolink, Lav, Kinsey, TheBird, TheDeek, Yuyukow, Fapoleon, Pilky, Mortis, UpdateGuy
>Brian
Alfeiser, Zilyana, KWG, Titan,Cipher, rhs, Transcivic
>Meg
Suule
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>>587006418
>You know you could visit those boards anytime and bring something new right?
Funny you say that considering that it's the 4CC teams themselves that refuse to put anything new and would rather delude themselves in whatever state their boards were in the past. At least the niggas in VGL put on what they have, both good and bad. I can't speak for VTL as I don't watch nor know anything about their virtual whores other than some of them are hot.
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>>587007024
I like 3 people from brian tier
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>>587007031
Most 4cc teams have regular updates
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>>587007024
>Suule anywhere but Hidden Dragon Peter
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>>587007024
Sou is too high, and it's fine, since he's one of the best
Crimson actively shits on anyone and anything he can which knocks him down at least one tier. PES knowledge and witty dry humor can only carry one so far.
jenseits could go up a tier, though he does pbp unnecessarily sometimes
Prozach and Legendairy as well, they are great.
Blinky is way too low. Tenko is immune to such a ranking, as his loudness and hot opinions are features that are excellent just 1-3 times per cup. Kinsey is an excellent commentator with a bad mic and quiet voice. UGoy should be higher, too.
RHS gets too much hate, though he shouldn't be much higher.
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>>587007031
Do you have any proof of managers refusing to add players the board voted for or do you just want them to manager f.c. based on what the fastest threads are
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>>587007031
>I can't speak for vtl
Depends on the thread, some prefer legacy rosters with very little change.
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>>587005551
1 ticket
1 wei
It's that easy
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>>587008728
wahey*
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>>587007031
If someone came to /u/ and started spamming het porn and dicks for months, would you add that to the team?
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>>587008996
no, because that's against the rules of the board.
now, kpop is music and it is legal and it is /mu/'s overwhelming majority of activity.
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See you in winter, fags.
Go play NFSU2 Online btw, it's mad fun
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>>587009206
/mu/ is about music as art, like /lit/, it's not like say /tv/ where its about film as entertainment so you get total appeal to the lowest common denominator
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>>587008996
If it ends up not being removed by jannies/admins and sticks, unironically yes because by then it's become a part of the board regardless of how retarded it is. Teams are supposed to be a representation of the board as it is and not a representation of some ideal image it's supposed to have.
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>>587009578
>yeah bro if hetporn gets spammed on the not-het board it NEEDS to be on the team now, who cares about what the board is called?
this is why people make fun of you. atleast with kpop and /mu/ you can make an excuse.
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>>587009426
holy cope
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>>587009578
I really can't understand vgl's kids, we can't have a converstation
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>/mu/ gets a k-pop fan manager
>/4ccg/ cares more about k-pop than him
kekypow?
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>>587009206
>kpop is music
eeehhh
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>>587009917
VGL is a strange world where Blue Archive characters are on /tf2g/ because it's their culture.
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>>587009426
>/mu/ is about music as art
Is that what they tell themselves?
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>>587009752
It's still the board's choice to put it in is it not? If /u/ fags are dumb enough to vote it in then that's their problem.
>>587009917
I understand that having your team be a representation of a board's good and bad parts is too hard for you so you'd rather revel in pretention of being good by simply not acknowledging the bad.
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>>587010481
It's not about representing the good and bad, it's representing something that makes sense
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>>587010481
Do you have any proof of a player that the board voted for and didn't get included in their roster? Or is manager f.c. allowed if it's a fast thread?
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HYE PENIS FAGGOT
Fuck fuck FUCK A GUY
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I think boycotting a hetspamming player on /u/ makes sense. I also think refusing to engage with a large section of the board like kpop is poor.
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>>587010481
It's in a manager's interest to make the team look good.
You wouldn't put bad shit onto the team either. You think you would, but you wouldn't.
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>>587009578
>jannies/admins
Who?
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>>587010481
>it's still the board's choice
But we told you that before every time and you got mad about it.
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/mu/ should have a korean cat breed medal called kusic that should represent the kpop generals
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>>587010786
Just take that K-Pop Demon fella and make him a rep. Better yet, make both keepers the K-Pop reps.

Win? K-Pop saved the day. Lose? K-Pops fault
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>>587011374
Arr rook same
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>>587009764
>>587010216
you guys probably have really shitty taste not just in music but in every facet of your life tbf
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>>587011514
sex with a certain breed
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>>587002696
>>587005765
Isn't she in the team already as >alone on a friday night?
>>587005551
>zoomer dogshit trannylation
>pushed for more yurislop
I can only wish EOS for this version of the game.
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>>587011209
Yes, anons of a board not putting in something that's intrinsically against their own board's concept is the same as purposefully not letting something through just because you think it's not good enough despite it comprising the majority of your board's activity. Any more disingenuous angles you want to present?
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>>587011514
why is the vgl commissioner in this picture
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>>587011669
and yet that's the board's choice still like you said! Or are you saying Manager FC is ok actually?
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I-It's almost like I'm w-working on... /e-/egg/...
*shits pants and cries silently*
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>>587011540
Don't browse /mu/ but their music export is just not that good aside from Holland 1945 maybe. Neither is k-pop, but riding a high horse is amusing given all this.
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>teams should represent what their board is about not what the general wants
>/END/ isn't adding gugugaga despite her being their most popular meme? wow based manager
Huh?
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>>587011975
>wow based manager
Nobody is saying this
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/4ccg/ - the goomba fallacy general
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>>587011885
Woman is the nigger of the world is a banger
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>>587011540
The joke is that /mu/'s taste is bad and pretendious, kpop is just brand
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>>587012093
Oh yeah you got a point
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>>587012015
>goomba fallacy
*Outgroup homogeneity fallacy
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>>587011620
Yeah true, but her first name as a player was just Nico Nico Nii.
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>>587011620
Mornya...
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>>587012934
not her
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HELLO, DAY 4 VOD?
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>>587015043
no /vt/ no vods
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>>587015123
Understandable kill yourself
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>>587012934
Not her unironically.
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Always "not her", never "I'm her", curious
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I'm with her (my co)
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>>587015223
i miss this meme
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Why has /pw/ been so bad since Winter? Punishment from the divegrass gods for their style of play? Giving up after the entire cup rooted against them? Everyone simultaneously having less time? A run of bad fortune that was bound to happen?
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>>587016415
The same reason /u/ have been bad since Summer 24
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>>587011514
why is the korean cat cannibal?
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>>587016640
/pw/ has an ESL council?
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>>587017227
so you didn't knowing?
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>>587017638
/pw/ is such a burger-oriented board that it had never crossed my mind.
I'd understand spics but nothing more.
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>>587015043
When the stream ends the vod needs to re-encode before it can be posted. This usually takes several hours. It will be posted when it is ready.
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>>587016415
It coincides with Mundo being AWOL.
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>>587018428
so he fucked off from /pw/ too? lol
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Is there any convenient way to see a list of teams by number of managers?
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>>587018967
best I can think of is isthisliv/managers/board, filter by active, which doesn't actually sort but gives you the full list
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>>587019178
Follow-up question: how many managers for it to count as a council? 2 or more? 3 or more?
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>>587020491
I would say 2+testers.
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>>587020491
3 minimum and that includes testers.
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>>587020583
>>587020836
But there's no telling how many testers a team has, how would you know if it's a council or no?
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>>587021217
so you don't know?
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Does the 2huminati count as a council or a cabal?
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>>587021217
They'll either admit it or there will be signs.
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>a huge number of commentators have signed up
/4ccg/ has spoken and people have listened
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>>587021890
Both.
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>>587005551
No thanks, I like her as a gyaru and not as a black zoomer.
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>>587018075
Cheers
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>>587026091
>gyaru
>zoomer
What's the difference, both are pretending to be black.
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>>587017227
They have/had 2 Texans. Thats pretty ESL
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>>587022015
>28 signups across 8 matches
Whew
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>>587027916
VGL bows to 4CC for commentators
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4CC-sama, would you lend us some commentators?
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>>587031574
no
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>>587031574
Sure thing, you are getting the best of the best
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>>587031574
You can have 'kento.
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>>587031574
Bring back 'bellum
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>>587032565
He's busy.
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>>587033870
Smooch
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>>587000638
Thinking about this post again, not just the fact that an export can be a failure on such a fundamental level but the way someone from an outside perspective can pick apart exactly what makes it a failure so cleanly makes me fearful of my own exports. I'm not autistic enough for this shit
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>>587007104
Brian is better thus higher then Chris
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>>587043570
If you weren't autistic you wouldn't care
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>>587044992
t.
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>schizo general
>filled wiki team page
meanwhile
>normal general
>empty wiki team page
Why is that
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https://x.com/zenkicuck/status/2118735475691204802
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>>587043570
>but the way someone from an outside perspective can pick apart exactly what makes it a failure so cleanly makes me fearful of my own exports. I'm not autistic enough for this shit
You're thinking about this way too deeply.

/w/'s export had LITERALLY every single player have only one playstyle - destroyer.

No one is going to pick apart your export and make fun of you unless you're doing the most ridiculously stupid obvious blinking red neon sign "I'M RETARDED" tactics like giving all 23 of your players the same playstyle.
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>>587043570
This is why you just copy a team that looks good and tweak it a bit.
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>>587048950
You answered to your own question
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>>587048950
Examples?
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>>587050005
I didn't mean that in a public shaming sort of way, I meant like knowing what an export is trying/failing to do, like talking about 4-5-1s and lang ball and how the destroyer spam impacted them, stuff like that. Like some people just have a mind for it.
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l@rp l@rp l@rp sahur
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>>587051694
there was a picture with momoka saying that but i forgot to save it
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>>587051418
I think it's a part of just doing it long enough that you get a feeling for what things do and how they interact, combined with a smug superiority that you claim you know things, while it's actually bullshit. Just look at how the 23 destroyers were hyped up, and what it actually ended up doing.
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>>587051694
How much rent are you paying the copper thief
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>>587051418
>like talking about 4-5-1s and lang ball

that one isn't too difficult to realize once you think about it.

only 1 striker in a 4-5-1
if they long ball it, there's only one guy ever up there to try and attempt to collect the longball.
and let's say he does collect the longball
well... then what? where's his support? is he just supposed to 1v4 the defense?

a lot of it is experience, some of it though you just need to thonk and ponder a little.
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@weedman as a compensate for the failure of /w/'s export, set everyone on garbage day to short
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>>587051965
>Just look at how the 23 destroyers were hyped up, and what it actually ended up doing.
Yeah, I remember how /w/ was supposedly going to be a nightmare for their opponents to test against, it can't have been too bad for them since /w/ has conceded 8 so far.

>>587052247
It was talking about how /w/ was apparently meant to counter lang itself though, in reality it didn't seem like /w/ could counter anything.
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>>587052808
>It was talking about how /w/ was apparently meant to counter lang itself though
i have no idea what the anon was on about there, maybe he can elaborate.
destroyer just encourages heavy pressing and tackling (which is why everyone was expecting /w/ to get a bunch of cards and suspensions).

but that doesn't really have much to do with countering longball.
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>>587043570
/w/'s export is just an abject failure. Destroyers that chase the ball + gegen but only with 1 striker but also ddl and swarm the box so there's tons of open space. Nobody is going to say anything to you except maybe lol /yourteam/ when you lose.
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>>587052247
>>587053637

Not only was the attack doomed from the start—limited to the bare minimum, relying solely on COM cards and individual skill cards—but the defense was an absolute disaster. The defensive sliders looked standard, yet the team had four "advanced instructions" active. FOUR!
One thing I’ve learned about PES is that you should only ever use one or two (if any at all)—never more. Let’s take a look:
- Gegen from the very start. It’s no wonder the starting eleven—especially those who weren't substituted—were already gassed by the 65th minute, as we saw during the /tv/ game.
- "Defensive Line" and "Swarm" tactics enabled simultaneously. Combining these two approaches is fundamentally contradictory; that’s likely where the gaps opened up.
- "Tight Marking" on the "Gold" player—fine, but that doesn't excuse the other three advanced instructions.
This setup never stood a chance. If Crimson wanted to keep the original VGL25 /smbg/ export - an export destined for failure which finished with only 4 points and a single goal scored - then he should have stuck with it instead of tacking on a bunch of nonsense. Or, he could have taken a step back to consider whether any of this actually made sense, rather than just adding bullshit for the sake of it.
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>>587053751
Thank you ChatGPT.
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is this unironic
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>>587018075
How/with what software do you actually record the VOD to keep the cytube chat with timestamps?
And when you do BEE, how do you even contact the guy maintaining the archive?
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[sad news] /aco/ is getting 5-5-5-0'd today
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>>587056091
kekypow
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The streamer that justifies pedophilia, domestic violence, rape and murder.
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but pedophilia is good though
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>>587056248
my GOAT Cipher
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>>587056318
until you're the kid who was raped
or your kid gets raped
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>>587057643
I didn't say anything about rape
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>>587057643
If someone fucks your wife or daughter, just rape him to restore the balance.
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>>587057725
Kids can't consent
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He said the line
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>>587058179
What if someone rapes me or my son?
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>>587058210
That's ageist. Kids can do ANYTHING
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>>587058639
Why are you asking when you already know the answer?
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2 hours until /your team/ dies
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>>587059735
myteam is on Winter already
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>tripping balls
/o/ 0-3 /m/
/qst/ 3-2 /aco/
/r9k/ 1-1 /i/
/cgl/ 1-3 /b/
/fit/ 2-0 /wg/
/lit/ 2-1 /vmg/
/g/ 1-2 /vrpg/
/xs/ 2-1 /vr/
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Regarding /w/:
1. Didn't the caretaker at least approve the attempt-murder tactics?
2. /w/ were clearly not here to win games traditionally (or at all), but rather to have fun/ How then can they be judged the same as other teams trying to win?
Calling /w/'s export a disappointment is very reasonable, as a lot of people, whether mislead or not, had expectations that differed immensely from the outcome. Calling it the biggest autopilot failure (especially considering current /o/ is in the same cup!!) is missing the point entirely.
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>>587065226
>1. Didn't the caretaker at least approve the attempt-murder tactics?
I have no say about this as the caretaker. A caretaker from my understanding does not provide feedbacks nor should interfere with tactics whatsoever.
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>>587065226
It's a disappointment because it was hyped up as an Exodia machine and instead it was just very boring.
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>>587065226
>/w/ were clearly not here to win games traditionally (or at all), but rather to have fun
kekypow dude
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Rentry for FB Day 4 for those who care: https://rentry.co/62xm8ffe
Didn't do day 3 because I procrastinated too much on it, also might've rushed a bit on their predictions for today.
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>>587065523
There was that one time when Shakes caretook /jp/ and asked Admin to run basically the previous cup's export so Boris recreated their P1 unaware they'd spend the last cup running P2
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>>587053178
Crimson said that the auto was supposed to be anti-lang but during FB he gave up and just said lang doesn't care and the only way to counter it on 17 is with more lang.
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>>587053751
Long post. If we're comparing it with VGL25 /smbg/ we can see where it went wrong. Even if it only scored once, it only conceded in one game. So that was an auto with a defensive plan that succeeded, but died because of a lack of offense (and ultimately because of GD largely due to /akg/ spotting /aceg/ 4 goals then suffocating /smbg/). I will note that the VGL at that time had a much more defensive ruleset than the 4cc does presently, which would favor that setup, so add that as a difference in this exercise.
/w/ and /smbg/ had the exact same formation and sliders but differed in AIs. /w/'s AIs are Gegenpress, DDL, StB. /smbg/'s were Tiki-Taka, Wing Rotation, DDL, StB. I disagree with your take that DDL and StB are contradictory. They are entirely compatible, they just tell the entire defense to stay in the box the entire time. This is a good idea to stop lang ball. What isn't compatible is gegenpress. Now you have 2 AIs telling you to pack the box, but 1 AI telling you to press forward as hard as possible. This is a good idea to attempt to get cards (even if it failed), but completely ruins the pack the box anti-lang defense. It's no wonder this seemingly defensive team has allowed langs and througballs when they're being told to press this hard. /smbg/'s TT and WR actually also contribute to defense, as they force the offense to drag everything slowly to the wing which makes it harder to get caught out and counter attacked.
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>>587066605
Now looking at the playstyles is obvious. /smbg/ was pretty traditional with a GP CF, Blank, DR, Hole AMFs, and a C10 CMF. Pretty one note but the plan is clearly to try to find the CF with the Blank and C10 creating while the DR and Hole function as pseudo wingers. /w/ is literally all destroyers. This is le based but it would unironically work better without the whack patch. Without it, it'd just mean the CF and AMFs are blank. Not ideal but perfectly acceptable, and in theory they could all create for each other. With the whack patch, now all of them only want to press. No creativity, no dynamic runs, no midfield control that 4-5-1s should have.
tl;dr /smbg/ was a very defensive 4-5-1 that was intelligently put together, /w/ took that base and threw out all the good parts trying to get cards
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>tipping
/m/ wins 3-1
/qst/ wins 2-1
/r9k/ wins 2-1
/cgl/ wins 3-2
/wg/ wins 3-1
/vmg/ wins 2-1
/vrpg/ wins 3-1
/xs/ wins 2-1
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>>587066108
To Shakes's defense, that was an accident if I recall correctly or something strange happened when that autopilot was set. But to be fair, I largely accept the fact we're heading to a fetus in Spring because of a bad export, with the spoon at stake too. Group H is a really tough group, regardless of the export.

What mattered to me, was to experiment with the kits and whatnot the 4ccms worked or not. That was the part where I wanted /w/ to look as fun as it could be.

The tactical side of affair is whatever, if I managed during that cup that would've probably be as equally catastrophic as it is now since I'm prone to rushed decisions. Like I said to the people I'm communicating with, things can only improve from there and I don't intend to let that team die after a single run.
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/o/ 1-1 /m/
/qst/ 2-2 /aco/
/r9k/ 4-4 /i/
/cgl/ 2-1 /b/
/fit/ 1-2 /wg/
/lit/ 1-2 /vmg/
/g/ 4-2 /vrpg/
/xs/ 1-3 /vr/
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>>587038946
yawn, they need to take their stockings off, we have no room for them here!
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>mass shooting in P*land
>Suule missing from cytube chat
I gave that lad shit but I'll miss him.

Press F to pay respects.
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Tipping
/m/ wins 2-1
/qst/ wins 2-1
/r9k/ wins 2-1
/cgl/ wins 3-2
/fit/ wins 3-1
/vmg/ wins 3-1
/vrpg/ wins 3-2
/vr/ wins 2-1
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>tipping
/m/ wins 3-1
/aco/ wins 2-0
/r9k/ wins 3-1
Draw 3-3
/fit/ wins 2-0
/lit/ wins 1-0
Draw 1-1
Draw 2-2
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>Suule got shot
Grim
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streamer got DST'd
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>Boris and Sou are ded
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>Crimson can't access the nightlies
>Sou and Bors who can are dead
I guess it's time to play with baseline exports
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>>587066605
>the VGL at that time had a much more defensive ruleset than the 4cc does presently
In what way? In this ruleset, the medals are worse, everyone has less cards, there are manlet buffs like vgl had, and the CBs even on red heights are 189 while green has 194. If you run red heights, you have the same backline as vgl25 except -1cm on CBs and one less card (which hurts offense).
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Maybe relying on a drug addict with no sense of time and a retired old man living somewhere in Kansas ain't the best idea when organizing a tournament.
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>>587069581
But it's funny
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>>587069343
Seems like an oversight to not let the streamer access the things he needs to stream.
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>>587069742
Do you want /mlp/ to be able to access the nightlies again?
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>>587069742
Crimson has said multiple times he does not like having access to Nightlies, I forgot his reasoning
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What did /h/ mean by this?
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>>587069792
>again
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This wouldn't happen in the good old VGL
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>>587069805
He tests for /v/
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admin questions gon' be FUN tonight
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>>587069524
Eh I suppose it's more offsetting than much worse then. Worse medals also means they won't be as present in the defensive midfield which is important for a defensive setup. Regardless that just means the changes made between the two exports are worse since there's less justification for needing to adjust the defense in response to a different ruleset.
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>>587070070
I atleast remember him saying that isn't the reason but it is reasonable to assume that's why he doesn't like having nightly access
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>>587070067
Its happened before
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>>587070216
Yeah in VGL8 (you weren't there)
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>>587070070
I've never been a tester before but isn't this something where you're told by the actual manager what to test?
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>>587069854
Kekypow
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>>587070302
Depends on the team. For some, testers are halfway tactical managers, giving input and opinions on what works and doesn't. For others they are just test monkeys doing what they're told
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Remember the cup?
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>>587070270
I was there actually. I do not have happy memories of VGL8 but we got our first win in the last game
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>>587070302
I am a solo manager who tests for himself, and even I don't know what I'm testing
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>>587070270
Nobody was, only QD and Nomo remember that.
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>>587069854
Rance wearing his "I <3 PES17" shirt as he kills /h/ once again
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Here's /wsr/'s first ever goal.

https://files.catbox.moe/1yv5o6.mp4
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>>587069854
I feel like there's been some teams in this cup where their ability to score goals was more accidental than anything else
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>>587070710
And the denied goal over a small foul.

https://u.pone.rs/hsyguqtt.mp4
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/h/ is deliberately bad because the managers are into NTR.
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>>587070871
And a missed diving header.

https://files.catbox.moe/xqga2o.mp4
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2026 4chan Autumn Babby Cup Group Stage - Day 5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC2hGXvRgi8
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>>587069343
is that why the stream is half an hour late?
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>>587068465
sentenced to laventale commentary instead
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>>587071724
Unironically the meme should be reserved for him, because only his accent is bad. Suule could have perfect english diction and he'd still be terrible.
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>>587056091
/m/ needs to score 4 goals at least to not be the team getting 5-5-5-0'd. If /m/ does win we could end up with /qst/ or /aco/ dying on positive GD which is more realistic and also funnier
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>>587072000
that's not true and you know it
also hard to be funny when you're barely intelligible
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/m/ is currently losing to a Target Man/DR front 2 export with 2 purple medals
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>>587072048 (me)
Since /m/ are currently being losers, make that 5 goals
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7 draws or losing to the spoon, what's worse?
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>>587072254
at some point, not understanding ESLs is a skill issue
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>>587068465
>mass shooting in P*land
qrd?
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>>587072429
How is this a question? 7 draws is funny, and the team didn't not take a point in 7 straight games. Even if the latter implies that the winning team is no longer the spoon.
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>>586997903
you were a bit low energy at the start but it's understandable after a 4 year break and you didn't drag the stream on like *cough* some *cough* streamers
(you) did well
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>>587072560
>guy in military gear
>5 dead
>10 injured
>>>/pol/
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>>587072560
we don't know, tons of misinfo from bible thumper rusophiles. guy in military gear (unknown if ex-mil or a rich larper) with an AR-15 shot around a dozen people, at least 5 confirmed dead, a solo cop got shot but took him down with 7 shots to the chest, shooter somehow alive after that and in the hospital rn.
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what does this mean for the spoon race?
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>>587072560
5 dead, 10 wounded from a rifle in kraków's main square
started out with a drive by, which is why the cops were there quick
based cop tried to finish off the shooter when he was laying down on the ground but got hit and layed down too
>>587072721
>tons of misinfo from bible thumper rusophiles.
why are you using american buzzwords
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>>587072803
See
>>586995016
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>>587072803
Congratulations /w/, you are now the spoon.
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>>587068465
alive and in chat
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>>587072812
People are complaining about ESLs, clearly there are Americans here
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>>587072615
my liege...
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If /o/ lost by three goals they would have set a new record for lowest goal differential. Luckily for them they faced /m/, who did not have that (scope)dog in them
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/m/issed
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LGTSS
>/m/
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This is a message to the /m/ council:
Dear /m/,

YOU'RE FUCKING SHIT. HOW DARE YOU. SUDDENLY BEING SO SHITTY, SO FUCKING SHITTY. HOW DARE YOU, YOU MOTHERFUCKING CUNTS. HOW DARE YOU, YOU SHITS. I KNEW IT, I SO FUCKING KNEW IT. I KNEW IT IN SUMMER, THAT AFTER YOU ADVANCE, YOU GO TO WINTER AND BE SHIT. YOU'LL BE ABSOLUTELY SHIT. YOU'RE GONNA BE THE WORST. I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING THIS BAD BEFORE. OH, IS THIS WHAT YOU RELEGATED /jp/ FOR? OH, SO GREAT, YOU FUCKING SHITS. OH AND LOOK WHO YOU LOST AGAINST? A TEAM THAT WASN'T EVEN SUPPOSED TO BE THERE AND FUCKING PONIES. CAN YOU BE ANYTHING MORE USELESS, YOU FUCKING SHITS. HOW CAN YOU HAVE SO FEW RESPONSIBILITIES, AND NOT FUCKING KILL YOURSELF. YOUR FLAVOR ISN'T ARROGANCE, IT'S DISAPPOINTMENT. OH YOU DROPPED IN QUALITY SO HARD, YOU WENT BACK IN TIME AND KILLED THE DINOSAURS.

I don't even know if I should be angry, OR FUCKING DISGUSTED BY YOUR PERFORMANCE. [Angry German Noises] OH YOU WANNA KNOW WHAT TEAM ARE BETTER THAN /m/? EVERYONE. EVEN /gd/ WAS BETTER. THEY HAD A GOAL. EVEN FUCKING /mu/ WAS BETTER, AND HE WAS OBVIOUSLY THROWING IT. YOU FUCKING SHIT. YOU ARE SO BAD, THAT IT MIGHT ACTUALLY BE A TALENT. IF YOU WANT TO IMPROVE: KILL YOURSELF. EVEN SHINJI WAS A BETTER GOALKEEPER, AND HE'S NEARLY WIPING OUT HUMANITY ON A REGULAR BASIS. "You cannot advance", MORE LIKE YOU CANNOT EVEN FUCKING SCORE, YOU FUCKING SHITS. YOU FUCKING CUNTS. YOU'RE SO BAD. FUCKING UPDATE GUY, KILL YOURSELF YOU SHITTY ROBOT SOCKPUPPET. You wanna know how bad you are in numbers? MINUS SIX GOALS. YOU PROBABLY WOULDN'T EVEN DO WORSE IF YOU WEREN'T ON THE FUCKING FIELD. YOU DROP COLONIES MORE OFTEN THAN THE FUCKING BRITISH EMPIRE. I BET YOU COULDN'T EVEN ADVANCE IN A GROUP CONSISTING ONLY OF /m/. YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A CHEAP WHORE WHO OFFERS EVERYONE HER HOLES FOR FREE, EASY PENETRATIONS FOR FREE. I COULD MAKE A BETTER TEAM OF ROBOTS USING JUST TWO STICKS AND CUM STAINED TOILET PAPER.
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/m/bros... it crashed again...
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>>587073489
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congrats on breaking your drawstreak, /m/
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Time once again to get those /u/ scarves out, /m/
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>5(0) against this /o/
Beyond humiliation
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Well, PES experts? Why did /m/ suck so much ass at shooting (on target)?
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>>587073598
The PES gods thought it was funny.
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Proposal: Give /m/ the wooden spoon, I don't care if /w/ gets raped tomorrow.
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>>587073598
>/aco/ and /b/ rape /o/ running counter lang
>/m/ runs poss short
You tell me
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>>587073750
>/b/
qst and they run short
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/aco/ IS PROMOTED!!!! YAAY!!!!
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>>587073921
I am saying this
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>>587073971
Boris would say it at least if he's feeling in a particular 'fuck anime' mood
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/aco/ is the vgl of the 4cc
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I was joking about /qst/ being autiesbait but I'm no longer joking.
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>>587074743
Autiesbait is really funny but it kinda just shows they don't really have any culture in regards to music
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>>587074743
>auties has 50 categories
>/4ccg/ only cares about the goalhorn one
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>>587074970
Should replace Justice with Lucifer
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This match has made me question why I'm still watching when there are no teams I care for
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Cuties...
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Now THIS is autiesbait
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i hate this /aco/ music export so much
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>>587075285
what was the last team you cared for
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>>587075142
SEX with Lucy
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>>587075142
>>587075365
based
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>>587075342
/int/ & /ck/
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/aco/ is the boomers and women of the 4cc
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>>587075342
/sp/ and /vg/ but they are elite
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>>587075491
but 4cc ARE boomers
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/aco/ is exposing how this /qst/ export or management isn't that good, they just got lucky by being in a group with the 2 biggest retards this cup.
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>>587075628
/qst/ is a pastebin today so it's probably more on the export.
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>new pet team gets raped but it doesn't matter
you hate to see it
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>>587075285
WHAT AM I FIGHTING FOOOOOOOORRR
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>>587075738
If /m/ managed to not be a complete retard and beat /o/, /qst/ would be dead now
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So does /4ccg/ like Haruhi or Yuki ?
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>>587076108
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>>587076276
Why does she have a sword through her chest like Dante?
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>>587074286
Well, /htg/ lives on /aco/...
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KWABST
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what do I think about this?
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okay someone QRD me on how /m/ lost to /o/, the group punching bag?
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/qst/isters.... our undefeated record....
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>>587076407
got stabbed in the comics
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>>587077530
/m/ always manages to lose whenever it would be most funny. This is a permanent constant feature of the team.
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>>587077530
the group punching bag was /m/ all along
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>>587077530
>how did /m/ do /m/ things
Big think.
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>>587077496
the yellow cards were worse than actually losing
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>>587077842
not that it matters either way, it's a babby
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>>587077537
https://vocaroo.com/1eKAUUjorTFS
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Muted
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>>587077928
you gotta win *something*
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Suule is alive btw
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sentenced to suule commentary
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>>587078083
Worst news I heard today
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This is a grooming tactic called Hugboxing btw
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>double yellow

https://u.pone.rs/qtddrnvv.mp4
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>>587078326
?
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>>587076407
Stabbed in the chest by Tower, the unbreakable demon.
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anyone got the pregame /i/ doodle?
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>>587079121
you rewind this stream
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>>587079121
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>>587079286
>>587079349
I can get that match myself, I thought it was posted somewhere?
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>popular 2000s techno
VGH... PURE AVTIESL0P!
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>>587073494
Happy birthday, /m/
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>>587079483
ask in the /i/ thread or wait for the booru to come back idk
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>>587079483
>match
*much
holy shit, how distracted was I to mistype it that bad
>>587079562
okay, I mean it's not a matter of life and death
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>>587080153
fucking slut
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>>587079349
Who is this supposed to be?
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>>587080401
you tell me
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>>587080153
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>>587080401
ideal GF (male)
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the legendary sou auto strikes again
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>>587080518
Not the cosplay, the character
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Souauto: throws a bunch of shit together without testing (it works)
Crimsonauto: I have a funny idea and I won't test it (it doesn't work)
Borisauto: here's the most mediocre 3-5-2 of all time
Kekkelsauto: here's a cock
Blinkyauto: here's an awful team what did you expect
Streakauto: here's a real team I copied
QDauto: here's a 4-4-2 diamond
BoBauto: here's a 4-4-2 diamond
Resoauto: here's a 4-4-2 diamond
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>Newcastle United defender Amar Dedic was at the centre of a major police operation after he and a friend were seen carrying a bow and arrows in the Northumberland countryside.
>According to the Daily Mail, Dedic, a Bosnia and Herzegovina international, was the target of a dramatic hunt involving at least six patrol cars – including armed response units – on Wednesday afternoon.
Stay safe out there bongs, this man was without loicense
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>>587081762
>plush on the left
Anon...
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>>587082210
Can't believe Sou is a horsefucker
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>>587082210
fug :DDDDDD
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>>587081689
>Souauto: throws a bunch of shit together without testing (it works)
Explain /o/, or that one /w/ auto that was so bad that it killed the team for a few years, or the /t/ auto that gave those cheating fucks at /i/ their win.
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>>587082378
(it sometimes works)
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>>587082378
I remember that /t/ auto. It was also all destroyers and also all shit.
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VGH.... 2009... home...
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>caramelldansen
now THAT's autiesbait music
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how do i get a cosplayer gf?
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ELITE and STYLISH /cgl/
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>trannies winning in 4cc
>trannies winning in vgl
grim
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>>587084532
/b/ let them pass, so you should be asking for a bf or maybe even a tf instead
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>>587084730
>trannies winning in vgl
/4ccg/ won?
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>>587084730
>trannies posting in 4ccg
grim
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>>587084916
>mfw /feg/ is back in the vgl
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WE'RE SO BACK!
Over 9000 hours of testing worked out.
The UOOH gull was the model for the player "Age Player", that got replaced. But I thought it was fitting to bring them out for this match.
This was the other choice for the pre-match picture. But I thought the other one was funnier.
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>>587086502
>>587086502
>>587086502



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