First Mate Nema November's Traveler's Log: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/news/flaming-cookbooks-lollipop-maces-trading-post-november-2026/Useful Linkshttps://www.wowhead.com/https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/https://warcraft.wiki.gg/https://murlok.io/https://housing.wowdb.com/>/wowg/ guilds (cross-realm and cross-faction)>NA<TUBBOFOMO>>EU<Nerub Silkweaving Forum>Thread Question: What's his story?Previous >>586779943
Finally got the Cursebreaker title! Now I can stop checking the clock for Curse Surges.
I still love Draenei women
draenei women
Troll Shadowhunter
BIKE HAS BEEN FIXEDI SAY AGAIN THE BIKE HAS BEEN FIXED
>>586969589
forever is dead in 2 weeks anyway. gta is going to steal all the ecelebs
Fox Friday!
tbc retcon actually worked out in the end, you get delicious goat gfwives
>>586969997kek
>>586970136stop saying this retarded shit, even in vanilla and wc3 it was said the current draenai we saw were mutated and not how they really looked before the portal radiation fucked them
>>586969302Is it weird that the main thing keeping me from buying the Fungal Strider is that I don't want to talk to Haranir NPC's because I still enjoy hearing the Torts on my Bruto?
>>586969302>>586779943>44 hours ago
>>586971126DEAD GAME
>>586971126too busy playing gtnh to spam my usual posts sorry
>>586971126Shadowlands threads were 33 - 36 hours long, Midnight breaks records with 39 - 44 hour threads
>>586942335don't worry they don't bleed anymore
When do we go back to fighting the TRUE threat to Azeroth?
>>586971126>>586774347>Still necrobumping the other thread
one last candid piece for todaynow I'm off to bed
>>586972537>barely halfway through the thread
>>586969490Hear, hear
>>586972614Wish I had a Draenei housewife like this to come home to.
what's with the fag obsessed with thread time to fill?
>>586973206He seems to think pointing out how long threads take to fill on this 20+ year old game is a revelation to all of us that the game is dying and will be demotivated to not continue playing and making threads.
>>586970489Even Metzen himself says it was a completely unintentional retcon. But it was a genuinely good retcon, it only improved the world.TBC's lore overall was kind of bad, but it created an aesthetic that's never been matched since and I wish WoW would have stayed in that art direction instead of how things turned out.
>>586973418>but it created an aesthetic that's never been matched since and I wish WoW would have stayed in that art directionI really just wish we'd go back to Outland, find another floating chunk of Draenor somewhere with the Area 52 rocket.
>>586971126grim
>>586973206>>586973363The previous gw2g thread lasted 18 days AND they had an expansion pack announcement that only got about 4 posts about it.We're doing good.
Sorry for not posting guys. I'm doing things such as playing the game.
haha how does it feel when your game is dying?I will enjoy pressing the button 1 19 times then waiting for mana for 5 minutes for the next 200 hours and there is nothing you can do about it
>>586973418>it created an aesthetic that's never been matched since
>>586974948The pants, boots, gloves and helm is from vanilla.
change my mind: people shill forever not because classic is good but because retail sucks. the chuds in particular hate how gay it has become
>>586975420Was that not obvious?
>>586975420People shill forever because they are hopelessly addicted to falling for Blizzard's rugpulls. They went beyond "Blizzard fans eat anything blizzard shits out", they now actively enjoy being scammed and lying to themselves.Forever isn't a big WoW 2 project, it's a low effort cash grab. It is fucking hilarious how the biggest difference between Classic and Forever is that they copied FXIV's tacky surname system. That's all there is to it, it's wow but you get a surname.
hate metzensimple as
Social interactions in forever do not feel legit, everyone is being performative, bunch of 30+ years old dudes trying to relive something that just isn't there anymore
>>586975838>B-but its an alternate timeline, the story is differentUnder the modern writers, who the fuck thinks thats a good thing?They fucking hate WoW's legacy, they do everything they can to steer away from it and make sure we don't pay attention to the previous pinkskins vs greenskins. They don't want us to value Arthas, because he's literally Hitler. They don't actually want to put the 'War' back in Warcraft like they said, they'd rather just say all the community buzzwords at the fucking announcement, and then proceed to go back on those values they mentioned in the very same goddamn announcement.Yeah, here's your war put back in Warcraft. Classic again, because we know you faggots eat that shit up for it being at a time period you like more, but here's a random fucking NEUTRAL race thrown into the mix for 30 bucks! Thanks for being dumbfucks.
>>586975838>they copied FXIV's tacky surname systemFunny how WoW becomes more and more like FFXIV especially after Shadowlands
playable tortollan when?
>>586976528>make a campfire>"fake socializing">it's just purely for the buffs and not for interactions with other human beings
>>586975838>>586976530>>586976652the ip is going to die soon without a proper sequel or without modernizing retail. people don't want to play garbage from 2+ decades ago
if wow dies, i'll rub one out to a hot draenei in its honor.actually, i'll do that even if wow does not die.
>>586969490>>586969589good good good great>>586969997LITERALLY ME
So Classic to - Early BFA = Metzen Mid BFA - Shadowlands = Afrasiai Dragon flight to TWW= DANUSER midnight= Council of Grannys.
I'm soon exalted with aqirama
Sex with giant troll women!
>>586976856Captain Tokka will usher them in
>>586975838>>586976652>>586977194Think about this: What kind of king follows others instead of leading them?As they keep copying FFXIV, they will forever be behind since they need to copy things from other MMOs that are moving forward.WoW is not ahead; it's not even equal. It's just following behind. How long can it do that before it falls too far behind? Only time will tell.
>>586977654the grannys are effing HOT
>>586977762>No king rules foreverCan't remember who said that but it's true.
>>586977696I can get on board with that
mfw battle.net will come with the Windows 12 installation it will include xbox gamesWoW will live on
>>586978426body type 2
>>586978426New member of Council of grannies
They should make Vulpera camps give buffs for everyone.
I don't know which worlo to play
love this lil feller
>>586979138lol nelf women
>>586979054you have to play the game so the universe can grow
so.. where the fuck do we get the green and purple sets?
Post legion it seems like the entire game is being held together by one boomer dev who knows how to add in professions new stuff etc while the WoW grannys add rocks and quest text lol.
>>586978142World of Vorecraft
>>586977415Curse the anon who said that artists avoid drawing draenei hoovesNO THEY DON'T HOW COULD HE BE SO WRONG
I know how people say flying ruined wow but jesus, skyriding feels so good after crawling like a snail in foreverit's like gooning after a month of abstinenceI can't stop spamming whirling surge
>>586980226It ruined nothing, people are just being faggots and complaining about having the freedom of choice.Ground mounts still exist, some even still being made that are only ground mounts in modern day. Fucking ride them if you hate flying so much.
>Retail has earthen >Forever has skelves Should it be fire or water next?
Why is the game so dead?
>>586980562of all the dumb complaints classic andies have, the one about flying holds most merit
>asmongold quit forever already and looking forward to PoE2
>>586981148aww man I had that he would last five-ten days in my polymarket i'm gonna be out $5k
>>586981125No it doesn't, flying didn't become an absolute necessity for navigation until DF where it gave it to you right off the bat, and even then only loosely needed for specific areas.Every expansion prior regardless of having flying was an endgame gain. You had to level through it on the ground. 77 at the earliest in WotLK for Storm Peaks and Icecrown.WoD to SL it came in patches.You had all the time in the world to 'experience' the world in a grounded style, and you still do.
Redridge is bumpin
how long till we get 12.2 news?
omg someone just uploaded a bunch of new stuff.
>>58698157412.2 came out like 10 years ago bud
>>586980226the voice of the entire playerbase of Forever after coming out of their nostalgia coma and the feeling of 'bro... dude..... BRO there's like... so many people logged in! woah!'
>>586980654Frost Dwarfs already exist and are well overdue for their Alliance placement.Not weird at all that they gain a King in a random amnesia Dwarf who then remembers he's Muradin and fucks off immediately without them questioning it.
>>586981750the weather effects bro!
How do you think the midterms effected the launch of Forever?
>>586981947kekon a serious note though it is appreciated they beta tested those for us because I'm looking forward to enjoying them in real WoW
>>586981947Dude weather lmao
>>586982094the chuds are deflated. they know democrats are coming for them and soon they will be forced to put pronouns in their profiles
>>586982346Comfy
what's the point of aqir invasions again?why do they make us kill ze bugs when they themselves won't bother to do the same?
>>586983067They needed yet another catchup system because people are too shit to do delves or low keys or raid finder.
PoE2 looks good
>>586983067they go squish squish
>>586983268>they got brothels now
>>586983268D4 still mogs
>early morning oce silvermoon full of way more players than expectedReeeeee go back to Forever! I want to enjoy a smoother hub for a while longer!
>>586983268thanks for reminding me to put that on for the drops while I'm WoWing. I don't like watching that stuff like, like chilling and skimming it later on
the GILF council
>>586984286D5 cancelled already
>>586984526wood berry
>>586984526A beast in bed, without a doubt
>>586984526wanna see the carpet matching the drapes
Does the Fang set still give Druids a serpent form? I don't see it listed on the sets as a bonus anymore. I'm at 3/5 pieces.
i think after some weeks/months forever will end up making some people appreciate retail more and even migrate to it
Game feels like SoD-, no classic+.
>>586985314that's actually how i got back here after the original announcement. got sucked in by the nostalgia bait and immediately recovered from it after like 3 days, realized I don't want to play old WoW i just want to play WoW again. then bought Midnight and have been loving the game again ever since
>Total War: Path of Exilewtf
>>586984565>D4 mogs so hard a D5 is not needed anymoreholy based diablo team
>Olympus moving to PoE2
>>586985231Doesn't look like it.
Goblin gameGoblin general
>>586973206>>586973363I’m the anon who records each thread tim, I don’t post ____ hours ago thoughI think that’s just a shitposting thing that happens organically when the thread takes awhile
>>586987851SPICY GREEN NUGGETS
>>586974290>compared to a dead game we’re doing fine!
>>586985487ya sod p1 was a banger, i'm enjoying myself rn but i think sod was a little better, you could just solo farm all your p1 bis that wasn't in bfd
>>586980226I had the opposite effect, it made feel like everything was pointless and more gamey/less rpg
>turn on Exilecon stream>WoW ad
>>586988924>Foreveronly poo1ers are gonna get baited by Forever
UHHH
>>586990335shid...
>>586990335>this is after poe2 news when they started with poe1 news when few players dropped off btw
>>586969820it was fixed days ago bro
>shivarra can give 6 handjobs simultaneouslyillidan had the right idea...
>>586993203Lightsaber-arms Shivarras would have saved midnight
Get your shit together B.net, you're making me think my friends are occasionally returning.
>>586993203A Lightforged wife could save me
Absolute kino
>>586995328looks like an AI-generated youtube thumbnail
https://classicarmory.gg/forever/censusUndead supremacy, I wonder why they didn’t release forsaken paladins on retail at the same time? They did that for warlock in Diablo it was great
>>586995494exactly what I was about to post
>take inky black potion while questingWow, its just like questing in Duskwood in Forever. I can't see shit.
>>586997315Where's the soulgas?
>>586985487I've been saying the game was just another SoD for like a month straight but apparently that was "retoilet cope" so now I hope the shills enjoy the cup of diarrhea they ordered.
>leveling a tank doing old outdoors questing>hit 60>mobs suddenly beating the shit out of me while taking forever to kill>hit 61>everything goes back to normalWhat the fuck was that? Some weird hiccup in scaling?
Classic gameplay genuinely puts me to sleep. I spent like an hour autoattacking boars in Westfall for 8 boar livers and I just feel like that was a gigantic waste of time.
>>586998112it's even worse if you play a warrior (like me). i'm still only lvl 10
>>586997857It jumps radically from the last level/stat squish, so yeah, Dragonflight will initially kick your ass, TWW will do the same and Midnight will slap the shit out of you. Especially if you decided to wear Heirlooms until 61 / 71 / 81 because they'll have the stats at the max level (quest rewards) of the previous expansion, not the entry level quest rewards of the expansion you just walked into.
>>586998414Can't be worse than priest where I'm just shooting things with a wand for hours on end. There's not even any tension because I can't die unless I fall asleep at the wheel or accidentally overpull and also my psychic scream keybind breaks.
I'm doing the Sepulcher raid and man Zereth Mortis was such a cool concept... what happened to the First ones? Did Metzen just memory hole'd them?
>>586999426the first one are unrelated to metzen
>>586999485that's why I asked if Metzen glory holed them you dumb nigga
>>586999641oh ok but metzen is not doing anything at allat this point I don't even think he suggested the whole worldfag saga and stretching 1 expansion into 3
>>586999426Most likely you will never see anything related to the shadowlands ever again.
>>587000078That sucks because what people didn't like about shadowlands was the lack of content and the fagass becoming the new arbiter the rest was fine
>>587000439I fucking hated having to go through a long ass flightmaster and loading screen inbetween zones.Everything related to the maw was garbage. The Korthia patch was horrible including SoD.I did enjoy Torghast however.
>>586999426There is literally nothing remotely cool or interesting about zereth mortis or the first ones. Not sure what you could possibly be on about.
>doooood... we all be like machiiiiiiines n shit... how cool is that
>>587000439>the rest was fineI wouldn't say that, I pretty much only liked the first stage of it that released. Everything took an immediate turn for the worse with Korthia and only picked up again to be somewhat tolerable with Zereth Mortis.But they still didn't actually finish anything from the game version, its like all the writers got fired or quit during the Blizz drama and the new ones just made shit up as they went in a completely different direction.
>>586997748>another SoDI fucking wish. Whether or not they admit it that's what everyone wished they got
>>587002610This whole plot thread makes a lot more sense when a former dev says that the team is full of militant atheists and he likely got fired for daring to suggest that the church shouldn't be a force of evil in Hallowfall
>>586998112>>586998414Im so close to quitting forever already and coming back to retail. I hate hate hate slow leveling and playing forever just makes me appreciate retail more
>>587002382There are very few games that attempt to create the whole fabric of creation theme, let alone MMOs, just for that it deserves to be remembered. I also enjoyed the music and geometric theme
>>587002762>its like all the writers got fired or quit during the Blizz drama and the new ones just made shit up as they went in a completely different direction.Danuser made both sneedolands and df tho and most of the world saga
>>587002840Don't worry 99% of players won't even reach 20 before they notice pressing the same button 10 times and then waiting 5 minutes for health and mana to come back is not fun
>>587002762let's be fair and remember that patches got delayed and content removed because of the whole breast milk drama that actually didn't even fucking happen
>>587003090>then waiting 5 minutes for health and mana to come backI'm lvl 10 but the natural reg of hp and mana is faster than retail.
>>587003536>I'm lvl 10
>>587002840I appreciate how dangerous the world is and I wish retail was like that, but the absurdly boring class gameplay combined with classic tagging and abysmal drop rates on quest items is just fucking miserable.
>>587000439Dealing with the heavy subject of the cosmology of a fictional universe requires great care. Blizzard made a bull-in-a-china-shop mess of it.
>>587003668They tried to bring it back by taking flight away but people demanded it to be back.We also had great open endzones like timeless island, tanaan jungle, Antorus, etc... but they seem to have got ridden of them.
>>587002935Okay? He's also not the sole exclusive person writing things.I find it very difficult to believe that he, from the get go of Shadowlands, had planned the entire time:-Drust plot in Ardenweald being handwaved away despite all the permadeath happening-Baine sitting in the corner-Kel'Thuzad having two Covenants on his case, and then immediately being diverted to a throwaway penultimate boss-Bolvar and the Ebon Blade having next to no impact on anything-Uther serving to just be the voice saying "Sylvanas is cool now."-Ysera brought up to do fucking nothing besides be convenient to help Tyrande (why do they keep bringing this poor dragon back to do nothing with her, fuck)-Denathrius captured and held under a Naaru's light to end the raid, only to be jailbroken out the very next patch to... never show up again and also ignore that there's a Naaru hanging out in Revendreth-ARTHAS - "We know how much Arthas means to the fans, and we don't want to pull him out until we're sure we can give him the respect he and the fans deserve."Among several other loose threads built up in each campaign, but those bother me the most.
>>587003597Yes.
After Forever's launch, it's beyond clear how retail must improve: they need to badly copy FFXIV more.
>>587003891Oh, the Sigils and the Runecarver/Primus. How could I forget such a grand plot swing that comes right the fuck out of nowhere with 9.1
>>587003858Man imagine how many players quit forever because muh flying bad lmao it's hard to believe they fell for the meme
>>587003891as I said Shadowlands got cut short due to the scandals and they abandoned it just like WoD.
>>587003090that and the amount of back and forth questing is. >go to this cave and kill 15 spiders>okay next quest in the followup>go back to the same cave and collect 10 ink sacs>that was a lot hope Im done soon>go back to the same cave and kill the boss and 3 of the mega spiders who are all elite>finally kill a boss after struggling to put a group together for an hour>get a new quest chain that sends you back and forth to stormwind and 4 different zones just talking to people for a green you cant use now that forever is out and classic players can stay over there in their echo chambers blizzard should make retail focus more on its strengths. faster leveling, classes being more fun, quest items dropping right away
>>587004041Yes more Zinal Zantasy Troonteen that's exactly what WoW needs
>>587004041FFXIV? Havent heard of that game since shadowlands. Do people actually still play that trash? trials are babymode compared to mythics but final fantasy troons will have you convinced otherwise. ill only start believing what they say or what asmon and his flock say when they post their CE achievements of the latest raid tier
>>587004568That's one of the dumb issues with Classic that bugged everyone and wasn't really made a quality of life fix until WotLK.Vanilla/BC just had quests scattered regardless of whether they led to the same place. Which is fine on paper, but it makes it very annoying when they tell you they need 15 somethings, bear testicles or something, from the other side of the map, you go get it, and their response is "Oh good, now I need you to go BACK there because there's a particularly nasty bigger bear with an even better set of balls I need you to collect!". And that's being generous, sometimes they scale you up mob type before the biggest alpha among them. Mix that with one random quest giver off in woop woop of some stupid corner of the map having a similar quest in the same area...WotLK fixed it enough that NPC's have the courtesy to hand out tasks in an area at the same time, in clusters or not, before more quests pop up to take you to a different area. Almost like this group of NPC's sharing similar problems were trying to talk up a collective solution for themselves before you came along. What an idea.
>>587005007>expansion delayed>0 content on release>9 month patch cycleIt's completely dead now
>>587004568Faster leveling is not necessarily a good thing. Why can't we have both challenging and interesting leveling/questing with the better class design?
>>587002762it's always like that>half of wod got cut just like that>legion was solid, broken shore and argus might have felt just a tiny bit rushed>the ending of bfa was the worst delivery ever, n'zoth was entirely squandered, everything after nazjatar was shit>sneedolands was surprisinly solid expansion again, korthia feeling like it was the only part that was slapped together by just a couple of guys>drannyflight seemed solid, I didn't really play it>tww started strongly, undermine was gobbo kino but clearly they rushed karesh because the last minute swap with harandar which was moved to midnightwhat they really need to do is to commit to the fucking expansion at hand and stop rushing in new shit midway through
>>587005191The endgame it gets especially worse because it then makes you travel the world. Which I like, until its for such trivial shit.Outland Loremaster was memorable to get when one of Nagrands lines mostly took place in Netherstorm.>"You discovered plans to summon big demon man?">"We need to stop big demon man before he's summoned and creates problems. Go to the other side of the continent to collect a bunch of demonstuff.">"Good, take this demon stuff to this guy in other triangular direction of other side of continent to confirm its the right demonstuff.">"This is indeed the right demonstuff. Go tell him its the right demonstuff.">"Great. We can summon big demon and put him down before he becomes a problem. We just need big item from {dungeons}>"Excellent. We have everything we need. Tell boss lady in Shattrath that we're ready to summon big demon.">"Good to know. Tell him to proceed with summoning big demon.">"Alright, we're ready. We'll meet you over at the sight to summon big demon.">"Alright, summon big demon.">"Great, you killed big demon. We'll meet you back in town.">"You did well. Go report to boss lady that big demon is dead.">"Good job killing big demon. Here's 5 gold."
>>587005534Dragonflight might be the only actually finished expansion.2 big patches 2 different new zones integrated in the dragonflight story and 2 new raids
>>587005243WoW players were going insane over 24 month expansions, DT is going to be a 32 month one
>>587005272after playing forever I prefer retail leveling than I do classic leveling because of how fast it is but still the most fun part of wow is the endgame for me. one thing ive suggested that retail adds is a prestige like in call of duty where you can reset your level back down to 1 and level over again on the same character
>>587005534>what they really need to do is to commit to the fucking expansion at hand and stop rushing in new shit midway throughWoD irrevocably broke them with "orc fatigue" fear kicking in before they even launched the expansion leading to them spending months redesigning zonesevery expansion they do now it's like they have fear of people being tired of it before it even comes out so they just rush into pivots and hyping up the next thing. they're perpetually lacking in confidence in every thing they put out
>>587006440>"orc fatigue" fear kicking inFuck I wish they'd have similar thoughts with Elf fatigue.
>>587006292Just add a hard mode leveling mode that you can do at max level anywhere in the world
>>587006440That's bullshit they knew blizzcon was a lie so they dumped wod and focused on legion.
>>587006636not a chance
>>587006718it's not the only reason WoD was a trainwreck but it's why there's so many dropped story threads in the launch patch alone and definitely led to patch content getting cut because they had to redo launch zones. gorgrond got massively redone and they cut almost all of the ogrim doomhammer and yrel/maraad story that was going to lead into their big cutscene in talador
>>587007001I have "no elf wife" fatigue
>>587007001If they were designing just around statistics you'd think they'd do more for that 14% of the playerbase set in their race's homeland rather than almost entirely centering the 4.8% race
>>587007112many say this
>>587007306need this badly
draenei butt
>>587007093They had to delete most of gorgrond because they decided doomhammer was going to die in a random quest kek and they did nothing to fill the gap just a bunch of bonus zones
>>587005534>n’zoth was squandered We really doin this shi again you nzother?
>>587007375they retooled gorgrond from being an iron horde zone into being 75% plants and nature, that's when they cut doomhammer's whole story but kept his abrupt ending in talador. i forget if you even see him before that kek
>>587005243>>587006214What's up with this gogogog next need more content mentality?You people are like smartphonekids when they can't get a new video in next five seconds
>>587007554we could've had n'zoth AND sschnottz
>>587007757>umm akshually releasing a new expansion with no content is... le good!Trying too hard tranny
>>587007364need to bury my face in itI know I already do at the auction house whenever I'm playing a Dwarf since they're eye level with it
>>587007898>need more content>no contentOkay
>>587007364
>>587008520I normally like personal ami's draenei but that face is fuckin weird man
>>587002897I've seen concepts such as 'the edge of reality' plenty of times in games. Usually it's done way cooler and looks cosmic or empty white/dark space or fractured reality.Not generic stone and grass land with a sandy area and blue sky and everyone is a retarded robot.
Haven't seen any Jimothy posts in a while...
im doing my first (trial) raid with my new guild tomorrowand im scarrarred what if i perform badly and they will kick me in the middle of the raid?
for me, it's azshara
>>587011606most guilds care more about you not fucking up mechanics constantly than doing bad dmg. a constantly dead dps means zero damage which is worse than low dmg. just go over the mechanics and try your best to memorize them
>>586985487Volumes...
Love femperas!
>>587011629>playing during Legion when it was new>had every class at 110 so did a lot of questing>every time I got to the end of the main story of the zone when she told me to kneel I'd /kneel
I wonder what blizzard's strategy is with this radio silence/back burner treatment for retailI get that they want people to at least try Forever, but they also know not everyone is going to jump at the opportunityObviously as we're seen million times before, their hype train will make a sudden stop, and then it's the next Big Thing they'll hypeFeel like it's gonna rub some people the wrong way in both crowds
>>587013458Blizz is playing with the new toy for now, we know the final raid and area for midnight, we know at least ulduar becomes a giant robot, theyre saving spoilers for after the raid, troll post defused ;)
>>586976530Forever is yet another thing to push out with minimal effort to tide people over, and they've given themselves an avenue to push their gay ass story they want to tell with its alternate timeline. They'll keep acting like it's where warcraft is at its best and then miss the plot entirely when they run out of the old wow to milk and have to actually add more new stuff.
>>587013792ulduar or the originator engine i guess*
>>587013127yeah.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>587014641i'm drooling for my dinnert. Thrall
>>587014631dog bless the shareholders
>>587014631>"We conned so many of you into thinking it'd be different and we're ignoring how many have dropped off already! Thanks idiots!"
>>587014641Need a Jaina Proudraenei version of this sloppa
>>587014631Literally not true, btw.I just made a character an hour ago. Elwynn Forest is completely abandoned. There's barely 12 players in the entire zone. Most of them are ERPing in Goldshire, and Northshire Abbey has about four identical human warriors all named shit like "Splooch Oya" and "BUss Oya" who keep spawn-campiong Shinyfinder Narf.Forever is a complete flop.
Everyone is coming back to Midnight.Midnight will win.Midnight will be the biggest expansion in the game's history.Midnight will be victorious.Midnightwill be redeemed.It has to be
>>587014631>Zero numbers releasedYeah that's what I thought
>>587014971Truer words have never been spoken
Tim Pool just said he heard retail numbers are stable
>>587014432cute fox!
>>587014631>The same team that said SL had the biggest launch of any expac btw
>>587013458I honestly don't think there's much of a strategy. They didn't expect Forever to be as big as it ended up being and they didn't expect Midnight to have such negative reaction. Some of the problems are easily fixable if they stop trying to prop up bonus rolls and heroic raiding so hard at the expense of M+, other problems are systemic and ideological for them and they won't be fixed until the employees are gone
>>587015403>until the employees are gone
I want this fucking brazier in housing
>>587015403Forever launch is not even genuinely big, 70+% of the the players bandwagoning it will be perma-nologins within a month's time, as is the disturbing yet perpetual cycle of the entire gaming industry nowadays. Every new game which comes out and manages to advertise itself enough to get the attention of the young generation hivemind cycles through this exercise. consume product and wait for next product has become not the satirical meme but the expected norm, reality has become a parody of itself. i said the other night that the next big bandwagon jump is PoE2 1.0 on Dec 11 and that's a fact. then in the first month of January there will be some new big bandwagon jump and the cycle doth spin on, endlessly
>>587014631How can this be happening to us? Save us Ion-sama...
>>587016119what does ion even do at blizz at this point?he has secured his place in the company purely relying on his mid celebrity statuslucky bastard
>>587016036PoE 2 is a great game despite all the memes and 1.0 looks amazing
draenei sideboob
I'm gonna be honest, i can't stand the aesthetics of vanilla/forever gear. There is nothing warcraft about it except for some class sets. Like imagine coming out of warcraft 3 and wanting the clothes and armor that the units wear, oh wait you can't. It's insane that it took until wod for blizzard to start adding warcraft cosmetics to world of warcraft
>>587016442Had performance issues trying to play that, so was no go for me.
>>587016502
Taliesin confirmed Forever is a huge flop. Their numbers are inflated by huge amounts of fraudulent bots. Once they stop the steal, retail is going to end up having more active players this week.
>>587016765they fixed the shader issues months ago
>>587016757I can't stand that the forsaken don't have the fleshy option and all gear looks like shit on themmakes transmog pointless
>>587016813How can Alliance men even get anything done with these women around them
what do wowo retoilet do now?
>>587017842idk, really
>>587016916>taliesin saidQrd?
Just do it LMAO.
>>587014631>all the retoilets hoping people will quit and comeback for 12.1.7
The biggest takeaway from Forevers launch being so big is that WoW as an IP is actually still huge and retail is just dropping the ball that muchImagine how successful the Worldsoul saga could be with good writers and dev team. Imagine how successful a WoW 2 could be. People want to like Warcraft, retail just makes it so hard
>the retard spam starts here when everyone ignores him in the wowfg threadconsider hanging thyself
>>587018782what even was the point of shelving the game to work on classic, without porting a single feature over
>>587018583Difficult wording because they don’t have a product people can purchase but that’s still huge, 3.2 million people purchased Shadowlands so if all those people played on launch day. Forever is pumping
>>587019025We get forsaken paladins eventuallyAnd uh a promise to bring the graphical update over eventually?
>>587018782>thinking people wont checkout the updated northrendyoure delusional if you dont think TLT wont be massive on launch
>>587019312Blizzard huff their own farts on every launch. They did it with Shadowlands, they did it Classic Hardcore, they did it with Midnight, they're doing it with Forever.Why wouldn't they do it with TLT.
>>587018938It's been a largely mismanaged IP after WoW launched. The movie came far too late and the behind the scenes for it paint an insane picture that literally nobody but Metzen gave a single shit about Warcraft as an IP at Blizzard. Retail has become this completely self-incestuous product where most of the writers are former fanbloggers and friends of the devs with no writing experience and they don't read any books so they just regurgitate their Windrunner fanfics and assume every player is just there for Windrunner slop like them. 2 decades after WoW's release and the only other games they made were a lighthearted silly card game and a lighthearted silly Clash of Clans clone that died in a year
wet goat
>>587019408>they did it with MidnightThe grim part is that they didn't huff any farts with Midnight's launch. Even in the leaked internal email about their successes this year, the CEO named Overwatch's relaunch and the D4 expansion but no mention of Midnight.
>>587019532wife goat
>>587019532GUHH i dream of gote
i think they planned around millions of sims and stardew valley girls that adore microtransactions all flocking to midnight for housing and drowning out everyone else and that didn't happen
Is this a bug or intended?
>>587021046You've always been able to walk straight in
>>587021152oh
dorfs
>>587021426lately been thinking a fair bit about ample dark thick dorf muff
STOP CALLING IT RETOILETSTOP CALLING IT RETOILETSTOP CALLING IT RETOILET
Foreskin
>hardly any replies>ramps up the retard gimmicks
>>587014641This cured my gayness but it would be cool to see more ingame screenshots in these threads.
>>587018583Wow forever has a thousand players? neat. RS3 still has more.
>>587023006there would be a bunch but someone who will remain nameless decided to fork the general so here we are
HOLY SEXO
>>587023006Provide screenshots of the correct version then.
>>587014631>>587018583>>587015235>>587019038They can say these things because this is completely new game and not retail or classic - it's Forever!
>>587014631>>587018583>>587015235>>587019038>>587024630>retails biggest launch was shadowlands>classics biggest launch was 2019>forevers biggest launch was now
https://www.wowhead.com/npc=11718/sar-browneye>brown eye - noun; what the asshole looks like when it's not producing solid human body waste; the asshole at restSAR? holy lmao
>>587025621I'd eat out her browneye.
Retoilet is dead...
Foreskin is dead...
>>587024349need to produce a non gay friend for Arator
https://x.com/Warcraft/status/2118893768984162668DEAD GAMERETOILET END OF SERVICE SOON
>retoilet is dead>classhit is dead>Forever is forever
>>587005243>Only "arguments" he can muster are dishonest as is tradition
>>587005007We didn't forget Halondrus. WoW players were shitting and pissing themselves over its mechanics as if they were some esoteric unfair addition when they were literally FF's baby mode raid tier.
>>587026648OOF
Do you think they named WoW Forever after the "no king rules forever" speech knowing that it will collapse after a few months
Forever is so good that its players spend their time shitposting the World of Warcraft general
>>587027434Well there's plenty of time to shitpost because their gameplay is pressing one button every 20 seconds.
Forever is the biggest failure in WoW history. They have to make up numbers and fake players for it to be considered a success
>>587026280I'm still here, just woke up from a nap, memescrolled and had cozy talks on discord before getting on PC. Whats up? :3 Dunno if i should continue playing on my undead rogue on foreskner or housing on retail. Pic is how im dressed IRL
Players are dropping and they're heading into banic mode.
Listen carefully. I’ve been warning for weeks that Forever would have a huge launch, but let’s keep our expectations realistic. The game mostly offers poor PvP, tedious alt leveling, and repetitive raid logging. It isn’t built to last, and most players—around 90%—will quit on their own or follow the lead of the bald one.
>>587027670rp pvp has like 1/10th the pvp server population, just drop it and fag house rp
>>587027929I've had second thoughts about it but i'm not sure still. I still have my tauren on RP-PVE for tauren yaoi with my friend though :3My shy tauren has had some, special moments together...https://files.catbox.moe/adn9wx.png
>>587014631Honestly, what's the point of playing retail anymore? With these numbers, it's clear that Forever will be the main game, and the classic team is gonna permanently keep the devs they borrowed from retail. Moving forward, I think something similar to Midnight will be as good as it gets in terms of expansions.
>>587029562because if you have an iq higher than 75 you're going to be severely understimulated when the "fresh" phenomenon wears offits a melanin check, sorry you had to find out this wayggs ig and all that jazz
>>587030203lmao, bodied that freak
>apparently i'm an adhd riddled zoomer because i can't stand classic "gameplay"Is it because I don't have any childhood connection to wow?
forever is just classic for the 400th time but with the disney character models. many are realizing this.
>>587030650how's those m+ numbers looking?
have fun farming orbs in strath for the millionth time i guess lmao
>>587030480no its completely normal, it's oki think its boring as shit myself but every few years YEARN to grind the shit out of a fresh>>587030650we were saying that @ blizzcon btw
>>587030750average Foreverzoomie
yeah time to go do the same recycled m+ dungeons againreminder the blizzcon audience literally groaned at that part of the panel LMAO
guess what time it is
>>587030914classhits getting bodied by real people for the nth time
Forever is fun, but I'm still here for you anons.
>>587030480I'm a day 1 player who played all through original + TBC and some of LK before taking a break to come back for WoD (yes I'm a TBC lover). And no, that's not it. Forever is for those who've got the nostalgia goggles strapped on at maximum opacity with blinders on the sides, and evidently did not participate in any of the dozens of arenas they could have already gotten that "old feeling" over the past 20 years (pvp videos, private servers, listening to OSTs, reading the books etc. whatever). It is for people who think logging into a video game is not only a time machine but a brain wiper too, who think they can BE young again by playing Forever. At least that's my interpretation of it. Oh and it's for an entirely different audience of people presumably your age (young) who want to feel all those sensations for the first time with a modern heavily-advertised "hype" audience, the kids can't get enough of being part of "the next big thing" nowadays.
>>586969997fat musky draenei balls
*casts frostbolt on generic fire elemental boss for 3 hours*heh... don't make em like they used to
>>587030203Blizzard won't let the tourists quit that easily. Forever won't retain the launch numbers, but will probably settle to a number of subs higher than retail has.
>>586978721>They should make Vulpera campsThat's a good idea. But the only buffs they should give is reducing the vulpera population.
>>587030480I'm also fucking bored and kinda pissed off at Blizzard for giving in to 40 years old dads and their craving to relive their youth, instead of making retail good or actually working on a proper sequel.
>>587031121/salute to a veteran older than myselfwe love you here old timer>>587031174>but will probably settle to a number of subs higher than retail has.you will literally never in this life be privy to that information so it is so easily handwaved its not worth mentioning, ya the patch is shitretail has had so many SHIT patches its not funnyits still hereno one cares except retarded twitch kiddiesif you need fagmannigger and faggotpoppin to carry your game it sucksend of
>>587031174>tfw you remember it's the same sub
>>587031136
>>587031321>proper sequelthey're never do that because the company is entirely different from what it was then. not just entirely different, RADICALLY different, vastly different to a measure which can't be quantified just by taking a tally of personnel and realizing they're barely anyone of the originals left, it's far deeper than that from both a mission standpoint and business standpoint and just the worldview of the company in general. it'll never happen nor do they feasibly have any plan for it to happen and they'll likely just use Forever as a beta test for content to add to retail and/or vice versa
>>587031110that fucking cat...
>>587031110didn't know you were a trannyf for your folks
>>587030480Gaming has moved past what vanilla offers when it comes to gameplay. The only thing that'll keep you there is if you've got childhood nostalgia that'll look past the terrible pacing or friends who'll keep you engaged.The other anon is right, the game needs a proper sequel. Neither retail or classic are up to the standards of modern gaming and they'll never reach the standards because Warcraft needs to be the corpse that trudged along so the other Blizz IPs can spend years in development hell.Unfortunately all that's doing at the same time is killing Warcraft as a brand for anyone under 25 at least.
>the forever unc closed the tab and retreated to reddit after shaking with embarrassmentmany are doing this
>>587031958Oh so it turns out that hunter that ran out of ammo 5 minutes into the dungeon wasn't a retard, but had dementia instead.
>>587031958jesus
>>587030480no classic gameplay is objectively bad if you can be at 95% efficiency while looking at a youtube video on your 2nd monitor the gameplay is too braindead and since classic is all about the muh journey leveling is the content
>>587031958lol it's actually pretty charming seeing posts like this because this is the correct target audience for it, so it's at least nice to know it reached them
>>587031884I'm a gameplay > everything else kind of person and I feel "homeless" when it comes to WoW.>my class was basically untouched from the midnight pruning so my gameplay is still good, but everything else is fucking shit in s2>everything EXCEPT the gameplay is appealing to me in foreverI'm not deluded enough to think Midnight S3 will be good. TLT I'd be shocked if they suddenly decide to break the formula.
>Make Forever a retirement home that'll last forever>Main audience will completely die out next time something like covid hits.What did Holly mean by this?
>https://www.windowscentral.com/gaming/blizzard/blizzard-confirms-world-of-warcraft-forever-is-the-biggest-launch-in-wow-history-beating-wrath-of-the-lich-king-is-wow-retail-cookedjez is shitting on us again
>omega nerf Ula'tek after everyone drops the season for Forever what Ion they intend by this
>>587031141Lets add each other on facebook!
>>587031958>>587031141Well that explains why every pro Classic argument sounds like a boomers political take.
sex with troll women
>>587032621Puzzling isn't it? Like literally what the fuck is he thinking here? What is his goal?This faggot retard really unironically held back all the significant altar and ultalek nerfs until forever dropped? Huh????????
>>587033383>Like literally what the fuck is he thinking here? What is his goal?"You will WORK to EARN your gear!" Probably something like that.
>expensive mount for whales>shitty patches to push people to pay $30 for something 'different'I wonder how many people actually fell for it.
I think it's incredible at how badly they've dropped the ball in every aspect of retail. They had a free win with the casuals that just want to play barbie but they even managed to fucked up housing.
>>587033815It's because half the devs aren't casuals. They're roleplayers. So they're not making shit that casuals wanna engage with but instead shit roleplayers want to. Then the other half are still trying to keep the gear maze going
I WAS RIGHT (TOWELLIE)
Seeing tauren men is such a tease x_x but i'm just a zombie with a cock that doesn't work, not a cute bratty vulpera male rogue...
>Wooo! Another statistic is filling our hearts -- we are seeing the most NEW players for a WoW launch in 15 YEARS!From Holly's twitter
>>587034223>New players.As if. The truth is it's just people who deleted their accounts previously coming back on new accounts since all you need is a sub
In life i was the gayest twink in Loarderon. In death i am phantom edged by the sight of tauren men.And the insult to injury? worgenization is only applicable to living humans...
>>587034452How can you be gay when in death your butthole will feel nothing? Should've just rolled one of the fag male races like Night Elf or Gnome
>>587034512Because i like playing horde.No biggie, still got a tauren shaman whose had all kinds of fun >:3 https://files.catbox.moe/pbcgyd.png
>>587034297I've seen a fair number of "I haven't played WoW in 15 years, and my original account got hacked and banned and I can't be assed to recover it so I just made a new one for Forever" stories
>>587034861Which is likely the story for the majority of these "new" accounts.But that doesn't work for the Forever PR game
woud ofwaacaft
>>587035086fougotten tweams
>wait on a queue>WoW starts to log off every 10minsthis is getting old fast, are there anything to disable this counter? WoW is open on my second monitor.
>>587036197i thought the logout timer was 30 minutes
>>587031958>retail writers are Facebook posting again
i literally just poopsocked anniversary classic and nostalrius a few years ago why would i do it again
>Entire guild begrudgingly raiding and chomping at the bit to play forever>Decide to play Forever because sure whatever everyone on my friends list is playing it>It's complete dogshitIs this some kind of psyop? I can at least understand that some people are fine with one button class gameplay, but playing in Westfall was more miserable than the worst garbage retoilet has ever made me do, including choreghast, turbo boost, and island expeditions, and the other zones are not much betterthe only thing positive to say about it is weather effects and lighting
>>587038036>Is this some kind of psyop?yes>weather effects and lightingand those will be here next month
Im looking for a new tank and my choices are a druid and pally. reviewing each of their specs which would be more enjoyable to play as in raids and m+?
>dh eyes still bugged until today since patch release because nublizzard trannies have no resources to fix shit because everyone is fixing Fogever bugs
>Blizzard is reportedly preparing to move World of Warcraft’s retail version into maintenance mode by 2029, winding down major content development as Forever’s runaway success reshapes the studio’s long-term priorities. The shift would mark the end of an era for the game’s modern expansion cycle, with resources increasingly consolidated around the version players have flocked to in record numbers.
Oh to have the time to make up 'reports' every few minutes to spam.
>>587040108>source? my aunt is a janitor at blizzard so just trust me broalso in a month forever going to have the same amount of players as retail
>>587030480it's just boring as fuck man
>retailjeets will continue to fund forever servers>in exchange they get claudeslopped patchesOH NO NO NO NO
Had a friend talk about him trying classic wow today because he's never played wow and got a free code to play it for a week.Took him 5 minutes to complain about the terrible combat and how slow everything felt.I don't think Forever's gonna actually be pulling in new players like you want Holly...
>>587016036>70+% of the the players bandwagoning it will be perma-nologins within a month's timeThat's a very generous assessment. I'd wager 95% won't even make it to level 30 before uninstalling.
>>587040551I said this weeks ago, trying to get fresh blood into the game through classic gameplay is like trying to catch flies with chopsticks.
>>587040108It's unironically over for retail now that they're actively trying to kill it...
>>587040108>Source: My ass
>>587040551Have you tried the leveling/new player experience for retail recently? Both games actively hate you
having a bunch of limited servers still allocated to retail is a waste, we need more servers for forever. chop chop blizzard.
>>587040551I know someone that had this experience when classic released in what, 2019?>they talked about it like "well i was never allowed to buy the game as a kid because my parents through it was a scam that i had to pay each month so im trying it now">they lasted a day and called it shitI only started playing WoW at MoP (well after graduation) because in my school being outed as a WoW player made you the biggest fucking nerd loser so I have no emotional connection to classic which makes it fucking unplayable for me too.
god i wish i were my dracthyr
Alright /wowg/ this is the lore of my forever male undead rogue! He was the son of wealthy nobles in Loarderon and was very rebellious, autistic and gay :3 he used the wealth to construct a costume made fox fursuit.His boyfriend was a poor guy he madly fell in love with and loved to spoil to the dismay of his noble parents more so for his homosexuality. Despite being human he never felt like one and wished his body were different, he felt like a fox.In undeath is shy and rebellious nature on top of the trauma of being killed and his boyfriend, translated into him being a serial killer. But echoes of his old life lingers when he sees tauren men, almost feeling jealousy but not 'feeling' it...
Why does Jez hate us? Isn't he supposed to be a microsoft drone?
>games """"journalism""""The toilet paper I wiped my ass on has more worth than whoever writes about games.
Forever just needs dracthyr and it will be over for retail. I miss being able to glide and have that pseudo double jump. Its barely useful, but I am just so used to to having it.
>>587044569troonthyr and the rest of the furry races will remain on retail, the ghetto of your kind.
I'm going to laugh so hard when they add tokens and character boosts to Forever.
as a retail dadgamer i enjoy forever slop
>>587045138you aren't allowed to do that. get back on retail, there are keys to deplete
>general so dead you can't even shitpost anymoreowari da
what is the most aesthetically pseudo-thematically pleasing race for Monk apart from Panda?
>>587034223Oh yeah? Did you play WoW FOREVER 15 years ago? No? So it's a new record then!
>>587043158>Forever is the BIGGEST LAUNCH in WoW history, defeating even Wrath of the Lich King
>>587045048I'm going to be entirely unsurprised and wonder what took so longokay yeah and have a chuckle too, more of a brisk noise exhale, perhaps an eye roll when it's players find a way to defend it and lap it up
>and then we rebranded and resold them the 22 year old product>for the 4th time!>and they bought it!>and then we patted them on the back for having bought it>like headpats on a baby>they liked it!
Well after 2 days of Forever im back. It was just classic with minor chances. Was boring as hell.
>>587047230human of course, though orcs work surprisingly well too
Players already dropping Forever after few days... This is like WoD release kek
>>587048221They didn't go far enough with the changes
The cartels dont want you to know this but the goblins in the Undermine are free, you can take them home, i have 438 goblins
>>587047896Posts like this will be very familiar over these coming days and couple of weeks
>>587048576I've been considering your gnome
>>587048715Considering her for what?I need to work out arctium some day
>>587047896if rush hour is starting to calm down a bit I might go get my single-evening nostalgia fix playing nelfie rogue soon, just check out the talents soak up the feeling Darn being crowded etc. Can confirm having made a nelf a few weeks ago here that Teldrassil always has at least a handful of new toons in it, even had a little brief pleasant chat with somebody at Dolanaar. But Darn being empty broke the immersion so yeah, I do admittedly have a minor itch to scratch
>>587049239considering... privately.... alone with my thoughts
>>587049841WoW : Whitemane is what the world truly demands, truly needs
I've been forcing myself to play forever but it's genuinely so fucking boring.
>>587049916But it's the biggest launch ever, even beating retails peak which was Wrath of the Lich King!We truly lost against them...
>>587049916if Forever acts as nothing more than a glorified reminder to the playerbase about the things they take for granted yet love about modern WoW, then it will have been a big success for Blizz
>>587049916Just come back. Be free
FOREVER WON>FOREVER WONFOREVER WON>FOREVER WONFOREVER WON>FOREVER WONFOREVER WON>FOREVER WONFOREVER WON>FOREVER WON
retoilet will never ever come back from thiswotlk was and will always be their peak moment from 17 years ago and it got crushed
>>587034223Why don't they give actual numbers anymore? They say this shit about every launch they have and never provide numbers or when they do sorta come out they are nowhere near the levels they make people think.
>>587050372>wrath>peaklmfao wrath is dogshit
Well too bad.
>>587049456Well I got it working but that might be a little too much skin for me personally
>NE Wifey cuckposter went to /wowfg/At least we still have the granny council...
>>587050372Indeed, it had highest numbers back then. I just hope retail team isn't going to make retarded chances now, trying to emulate Forever.
>>587050518>>587050631Wotlk will always be retails peak no matter what it got utterly and completely crushed.
>>587047230I killed a Don Gately the other day in Forever, I wonder if it was the anon that posted his name here
>>587047230To answer your question, it’s dwarf or dark spear without question
>wotlk - highest subscriber numbers>shadowlands - biggest launch everAnd Forever mogged both of them
:)
>>587050072It’s laughable that you think people are going to get into retail if they don’t enjoy Forever.They’re either returning players who have to slug through Midnight and that’ll turn them off completely or they’re new players and the leveling journey for them is terrible.
>>587050640nevermind, it's broken with human woman
>>587050631Crazy to me that 5 million people were still playing during the end of WoDs run. Even during shadowlands when 3.7 million people purchased it. Retail was still pulling huge numbersBut now they dont mention numbers and the videos don’t do well and nobody streams our game. World Soul Saga was the biggest mistake.
>Forever confirmed to have more players than Wrath of the Lich King>Wotlk had 12,5mil players>Shadowlands is retails biggest launch with 3,7mil playersYou could've launched Shadowlands three and half times before you even reach Forever numbers - that's crazyOh wait>Shadowlands -> Dragonflight -> TWW -> MidnightThat's three Shadowlands... LMAO
>>587050991365 hours in paint
>>587051714Forever didn't surpass them. The real numbers got exposed yesterday and it's nowhere near Wrath.The fact that they only have 4 "servers" and two of them are fucking dead is very telling.
Forever is boring as fuck, agonizing game. Fuck that man im going back to vulpera housing boy love
https://x.com/JezCorden/status/2118952577983270935DEAD GAMEEND OF SERVICE SOON
Is retail still active following Forever's release? I'm off work until next year and have the WoW itch, but would have to buy Midnight. I'm in the EU if that matters at all and mostly focused on pvp
a toast to wowowawa!
https://www.windowscentral.com/gaming/blizzard/blizzard-confirms-world-of-warcraft-forever-is-the-biggest-launch-in-wow-history-beating-wrath-of-the-lich-king-is-wow-retail-cookedThe retail version of World of Warcraft has strayed intensely from the game's original vision in recent years, leading to players leaving the game and potentially even the genre en masse.ACK
>>587009728The sand and the trees are there to show that it's been long abandoned you retarded nigga
Bots are on fire today
>>587052732you're the 12th person to post this you dumb nigger bitch
END OF SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT
psot mogs
https://x.com/BellularGamingEven Mick has abandoned you, wowo wawa
*yawn*
>>587052732>retail hating shitposter is a writer for a site that pops up in google feedkinda based
>>587053683Jez is a retail shill, retard
Now that it's clear that who's in charge, we can safely abandon retail and move to more alive and active game which gets all of blizzard attention and love.This might be the end of retail but like they say, when one journey ends another begins
Was hoping the spammer would be playing snoozever but I guess he's already bored of it too kek
This all seems like bullshit hype trying to combat against GTA VI's release in an attempt to be different from it. I've seen a lot of my old friends come back and a lot of them are still playing Forgotten, but a lot of them have already come back to retail. I have like 20-25 active friends so this isn't some small pool. Retail is winning, you just can't see it yet.
>>587053778I will remain loyal to the Granny Council. They have cookies.
>>587053901If retail is winning, where is Blizzard's offical announcement?Oh yeah, they haven't said nothing since Shadowlands and Dragonflight other than "yea it sold less than shadowlands..."
>>587053406the 10m gold skibidi toilet mount is going to revive retail
>>587053995It's called marketing. See >>587033550
name my band
Retail IS winning, here is the proof you need>>587052450
>>587054602Dan & The Baby
>>587054602the cosby cobblers
>>587054602Grandma's Boys
the xbox jeeta is 100% going to hear about forever's success and axe off retailit's over
The funny part is that while the shitposter wastes his life copypasting the same posts all day long the forever general is pretty much 24/7 dooming.
>>587054953Everyone comes home and we all know that. It's not funny, it's sad.
>>587054953Proofs?
No one is still playing retail except the dirt parsing lfr furtroon retards. Sunk cost fallacy and all of that.
>>587055218Open the thread and read you retarded brown.
>>587055443>can't prove itSo you are making shit up
danuser...kino...
>>587055621The Fractals...The Geometry...
>>587056123>>587055621This but unironically
>>587055621I'd unironically take his nonsense over the current crap.
>World of Warcraft's Ion Hazzikostas promises Retail won't get abandoned
rumors are Bethesda income is 5% - 9% what Blizzard has, they are going to fire more people
What is he thinking RIGHT NOW?
>>587058254>promises
>>587058367They haven't released an actual fucking videogame in like a decade I'm surprised they have an income stream at all.
>>587058254>It's a promise I swear
>>587053778I'll just play something else entirely actually. Forever plays like absolute dogshit.
>>587058501Starfield?It was a banger
>>587058501Fallout 76 and ESO are unironically money printers for them.
>>587058392probably unalived himself
New paladin Weapons have a Magic School called Holy Storm Magic? was that ever in retail?
lmao what the fuck
I we did it reddit!!!!!!
>>587060228>elves unite>"drive those elves off from our borders"
https://raider.io/stats/mythic-plus-runs?season=season-mn-2&groupBy=periodIt's looking grim ....
>>587061363But /wowg/ told me maze runners don't care about Forever?
>>587047230Blood/Void Elf male have kino animations for Monk. Do does Orc Male.
>>587061363>complete crashdownJesus christ
>>587061490M+ died because Blizzard put bonus rolls in the vault and stacked all the good gear in the raid. There's no reason to do keys for vault anymore, and nobody wants to play alts because raiding on alts is cringe. If you are following the optimal gearing path you are only doing keys to get crests, everything else will come from sending bonus rolls in the raid. Are you new?
So like 90% of the retail player base just stopped playing?
30,000 ACTIVE PLAYERS
BRAAAAAAP
jelly?
It's not fucking real Retail is still the king It's not fucking real Retail is still the king It's not fucking real Retail is still the king It's not fucking real Retail is still the king It's not fucking real Retail is still the king It's not fucking real Retail is still the king
>>587063396nah got me pango
>>587062759>>587064152Uh oh
Crazy what autism does to people
It's alright
>>587064580...It looks shit anon
you guys think eredar lactate green
>>587064710no but gobbos do
i haven't done a single key all week and it's not because of forever
My tauren really is going through it right now...!! https://files.catbox.moe/7gp417.png
>>587041304>your options are either rapidfire levelling that spews buttons and pop ups at you while not letting you complete even a single zone story before being shunted to endgame savior of the world, or 100 hours of auto-attacking and drinking for mana and having no hope if you pull a second boar>there's no in between. pick one or fuck off, fencesitter
>>587066841>there is no cohesive story in either
why is forever such a big deal? is it still just 'chasing the dragon'? would people be this hype if the game weren't called world of warcraft?im totally in the dark but id like an excuse to get back into it...
>>587067052it's rose tinted goggles
>>587067052Because ever since classic 2019 blizzard has figured out the secret formula: reheat legacy expansions in the microwave and get streamers to shill, and people clap like seals. Does it matter the game dies after a month because classic is just a dogshit game? Not really.Unfortunately they got to WoD and had to stop because no one in their right mind was going to play fucking WoD classic so the next logical step was to start over from vanilla yet again.
elf wife in murloc onesie
>>587067753shame wod is the big roadblock before legioni liked legion
>>587068040That's why they did lemix. It was the only expansion worth going back to in the sea of diarrhea that is WoD, BfA and Sneedolands.
felussy
>>587067052Just like Star Wars and other products which millenials are attached onIt's because it's World of Warcraft, you remember that game from 2004?That one.No matter how bad it gets, there will be disney adults defending and buying every single piece related to it even if it's a literal shit.
>>587063396Peanut Butter?
OINK.
Gosh,I wish fem elves were real
>>587062759Retoilet WoW has barely 100k active subs meanwhile Forever broke 10 million active playersLiterally 100x the playerbaseIt's fucking OVERThey are sunsetting this shit after TLT wraps up.
>>586969302is it possible to trade my retail gold for a Forever subscription somehow?
>>587070718It's the same subscription
>>587070718
>>587070718are you unsubbed?if so you're going to need to install retail and log into your account you will have a button you can click to resub with gold, granting you access to foreverwhether or not you have enough gold is on you, the prices are listed in the header on wowhead
>>587071918>your accountthe game rather
>>587064619Nah, it looks really cool.But I would not buy DnD garbage to get it.
>gets no replies here>tries to post the same shit on wowfg>gets ignored there too
who was phone?
wow forever comparison isnt even fair. the game just came out. lets see where forever is 6 months from now compared to retail to see actual numbers
>>587072289what's the tactical advantage of lipstick for a death knight
>Forever: 10million+ players>retail: 30k - 50k players (alts included)
sup /wowg/ I stopped playing WoW after getting 3400 mount on the first patch and the Gaywell cinematicis it worth it to come back or wait until the final patch of Midnight?I always have an itch to play WoW during Christmas time, but I just saw that Liadrin died for some reason and it seems Midnight is going to shit rather fast
>>587072414fake numbers and that's on launch. lets see how many actually stick around 6 months from now. how many streamers like asmon will have moved onto other games by that point? hes already watching videos of poe2 and calling wow dead and that game comes out in a month
>>587072353it is pleasing to me that is all
>>587072567There's no reason to play midnight right now, it's a middle of the season lull and everyone is playing forever while it's fresh. Wait for season 3 unless you want to grind some solo stuff in preparation.
>>587072632Don't give (you)s out to disingenuous retards, fren
>>587072632He and his 100k+ Olympus guild is moving there since Blizzard does everything in their power to stop them in WoW.
>Blizzard confirms
If there can be a random cavern of nerubians on the other side of the world, surely there's a chance we can find another underground city of Sethrak, right? I wanna see my OG Snakemen again
>>587068663felpenussy
>>587073365Futa urethral penetration, a very based taste
>>586969302https://x.com/Warcraft/status/2118893768984162668We fucking won wowgods... top 1 and top 2 mmo at the same time, how do we keep fucking WINNINGCome TLT we will be well beyond WOTLK peak if we aren't already
>>587067052Because its basically OSRS: The WoW version. A time capsule of the game from 2004, that will be added onto over the coming years with new content that is supposed to be aligned with the core values of Classic. IE what is there never was any expansions? What if updates were released a la carte like Runescape does?
>>587072414Retail has been 7 million+ since the depths of end-of-dragonflight thougheverDilate uncsissy forever is for retailchads
>>587073872>fake numbersnobody believes you man
>>587069926snakes are real tho
>>587074075
Why aren't you grinding M+ for that sweet .1% mountie recolor? Are you a sthitter?
https://files.catbox.moe/bzq7us.mp4
My father hanged himself without a reason
>>587073857>Because its basically OSRS: The WoW versionIt might look like that at quick glance, but the reason why OSRS is so successful is because of the communication between developers and players through the polling system.The players themselves shaped that game throughout the years and that will not be the case with Forever, Blizzard will decide what you want because they know better than you, which is why although the game will most likely maintain a healthy playerbase it will never reach the level OSRS in terms of player retention and player satisfaction. They will fuck it up at some point.
>>587074707woah
>>587075106the polling system has been a disaster for shitscape and made sailing happen (the most useless addition in an mmo that took half a decade for no reason"
>>587075106You know perfectly well that this isn’t true. And, not content with that, you come here, to 4chan, to stir up tension, just so you can revel in the responses you get ; responses that, quite obviously, contradict your own position, which you know to be wrong.No, this isn’t funny. Your lack of sensitivity regarding this topic causes real distress to many people. Granted, this is 4chan, but some things can transcend the computer screen and wound the pride of those who read them. You’ve crossed a line you shouldn’t have, and for that, I find you nothing short of repulsive.I will continue to treat you with personal respect, as I know that, ultimately, you’re just trying to amuse yourself at others' expense, albeit in questionable taste. That said, I would appreciate it if you stopped considering yourself a friend of mine. Best regards; I hope you reflect on this and don’t do it again.
>>587073872why so few enhancement
Page 10.... /wowg/.... has fallen....
>>587074707Amazing
my bnet is bugged and is not showing the icon of anyone in the friend list
Am i gay if i make a skyborne druid?
>>587080719Same happened to me, it fixed itself somehow.
>>587080353Not yet! I believe in TLT saving the game.
>>587080869only if its male
>>587074707kek
>>587081104fuck
remember when you had to pay money to change your character's appearance
> Try Overwatch> Everyone is garbage, constantly quitting, DPS can't kill, Tanks can't tank, healers won't heal> Try Hearthstone> Pay to win rng garbage with shit balance and just one deck having 70% winrate> Try Heroes of the Storm> Toxic constant afk troll community that waits in queue 20 minutes for a match in this dead game only to die 20 times or rage quit and go afk at minute 1Is WoW the only good blizzard game?
>Azeroth comes out and she is a giant troll woman and she just starts eating peopleWhat do we do about this turn of events?
AWOOGA
>>587084647>Is WoW the only good blizzard game?not anymore. but why do you think they keep milking retail so hard?
>every time someone dares to not suck forever's dick this happenswhy are they so protective of their reskinned vanilla wow?
>>587084647i have lots of fun in overwatch and hots but yeah hs is their greediest game
>>587086209>i have lots of fun in overwatch and hotsNo you don't.
>/b/ tier fetish posts>ai>rampant avatarfagging>60% of the thread is off-topicClean up this shithole janny
>>587086045The more i play Forever the more i realise just how shit Retail is
>>587086045Gaming is super dead and gamers are the most performative insecure and fragile group there is. Since there's no games coming out this year basically because of GTA 6 all they can latch onto is 2019 wow classic with unreal engine 5 water.
>>587086674>avatarfaggingYou dont even know what that means
>>587087717Basically people posting game characters in game thread about game all about custom characters is bad and that guy really can't stand images on an image board.
>>587087717>>587087956How come every time you guys post picturs of your characters it's always your female self inserts?you troons are very weird.
>>587088307Feel free to post your character any time you want anon, you dont need to feel bad about it
>>587088368Can you answer the question?
Would you follow her on gobsta-gram?
>>587088453People play characters, it's the RP part of the mmorpg
>>587088453Because I like shitposting on that character specifically.Now why are you so autistic about it?
>>587088453Because i like my hot characterNow, post yours
>>587084936>>587088457
>>587088457You missed Undermineyet you say you like goblins....
>>587089003I stopped playing during tww season 1 okayIm catching up on the gobs
>>587088545Why do you roleplay you're a woman?
> Hey son, i got this game for you, in it you can be whatever you want! you can be a powerful warlock, an old elf magician! a badass werewolf. What will you be?>> A WOMAN DADDY I WANT TO BE A WOMAN!!!Not tr4nny behavior at all huh.
>>587089291Post your character before we continue.
>>587089443>censoring yourselflmao
>>587089460Now can you tell me why you roleplay you're a woman?
>>587089907Wrong thread anon
>>587090014So you're not gonna answer the question tr00n?
>>587090109Anon, you are allowed to say slurs here.I know you only just started posting here so it's okay you don't know.
>>587090232Why won't you answer the question? Are you ok?
>classictard>level 1>troon obsession>self censoring>doesn't even know how to hide uitourism season I see
>>587090309You still have not posted your world of warcraft character, so no.Try again later, forevertranny
>>587090382I'm sorry you were born a man, but you shouldn't use World of Warcraft to be the woman you wish you were. Instead, you should end your life.
Why are you indulging the person who's clearly upset he decided to ask his goldshire date what she was behind the keyboard?
>>587090470Still not seeing a character, forevertranny
>>587090883> not only a tranny but a pedophileshocker.
>>587058798like tears in the rain
>>587091073aww he finally learned how to say the word
Retoilet status?
>>587091073>never seen a gnome boreYou really are new then
Retail is dead and only trannies who use it to play as women like it.
>>587043158Didn't Blizz say Shadowlands was the biggest launch? :) They lie every time they announce these things and don't give numbers for a reason.
>>587091201Flushing classhits.
>>587091661>Didn't Blizz say Shadowlands was the biggest launch?It was?It happened during Covid so all MMOs got a huge boost of players
>>587091661no sl was the biggest launch of a modern expansion, meaning the game had 10m+ subs like wod
>>587062759By this metric, forever has 0 players because no one is running M+ over there. :3 Good play metric, forever dead!
>>587043158I don't believe Internet numbers where the only source is the company>trust me bro 50 millions players day 1>trust me bro 596 millions views on that tweet>trust me bro 7 billions views on that video>trust me bro 15 billions like on that pics
>Buy sub to jump on the wowf train>Try out a few classes and watch some videos>Wait you press 1212 and MAYBE 123 if the spec is "super complicated" >Unironically thinking of buying midnight since I already have the sub because I miss the crisp gameplayAm I in the wrong here? Havent played since DFA and the dual talents look dope (lightning fury warrior was something I dreamed of back then). When I was searching for class recommendations I kept getting reddit threads full of dads who have 1 hour play and want something like paladin which is literally just auto attacker with one spell every 6 seconds, like what the fuck. If I wanted to press one button while watching movie on other monitor I would just play an ARPG
>>587091661They said Shadowlands was the "fastest selling game ever"Whatever the fuck THAT means
>>586971126Brvtal
>>587095590I got priest to level 20 and yeah most of the time you just click shadow word pain and afk while autoattacking with a wand.I just unlocked some dots but they're basically unclickable unless you want to sit down and drink after every fight for a small gain in kill time.
forever is so fucking tedious. i'm going back to enshrouded
I will buy the chef outfits
>>587050775lol it had to be, surely you'll see his Peemster too at some point. that anon inspired me to start a reread of IJ and even MAYBE play a bit of ForeverI haven't done eitherdownloaded IJ.epub but have not downloaded Forever
Toxic hasn't posted since Halloweensad!needs a break after daily Gobbotober it seems
>>587099923chef outfit has extreme alpha dog energy
>>587101375ikrjust saw a human warrior with the black chef outfit tearing through some mobs while dual wielding cleaversshits kino af
>>587095590midnight is in a bit of a stale spot atm because we're midseason but its still fun to hop in and check out. Ive been doing coiled altar dailies even though no one seems to be doing them anymore
>>586969302>29 hours ago
every time i read Zereth Mortis my mind instantly goes to that interview where they go "soo we had to make this place really alien and mysterious thats why there's floating trees and shit"lmao
>>587102654yeah they'll pick up again a bit after exiting their Forever honeymoon coma, last night was pretty dead in there though. granted I was in there at like 2 AM server time
>>587103820You can walk on water for some reason...
>>587104126never seen anything like this before...
>>587104275ever-evolving melodic code, which sounds like an intricate series of chimes and rhythmic runes completely incomprehensible to normal mortal ears...
>>587104126Shamans must be agents of death
clothie tri-spec class when?mail tri-spec class when?
>>587105956draenei wife when?
Tell me why you quit Forever? Can't handle slow questing?
>>587106207No vulpera.
>>587105956you already got troonvoker. some furry dev's chicken legged OC. that was your new class for the decade. if you want a new class you'll have to play forever, so you can play another troonfur OC class made by the exact same dev.
>>587106014many wish to know
>>587106341All I want in life is a cute draewife
>>587106207I haven't quit yet but it's just not fun to play. It's fucking boring.I'll try powering through to at least 40 to see if it gets better but I have low hopes.
>>587106207its tranilla with minor changes sprinkled on topultimately its the same dogshit game
bloodmyst isle... home...
>>587107139eternal alien autumn.... bliss
>>587087956Okay, so you don't know what "avatarfagging" is.Got it.I'll let you in on a little hint: Avatarfagging is a form of signature use by attaching very similar images to every single one of your posts to easily ID yourself to the thread.The only person I've ever seen get banned for avatarfagging was a tripfag named "Christfag" over on /r9k/, 16 years ago. He used a script to attach a very slightly edited (we're talking singular pixels) catface to every single one of his posts. Posting a picture of your World of Warcraft character to the general thread dedicated to World of Warcraft doing various things in-game is in no way shape or form avatarfagging.Yet stupid apes such as yourself seem to get it twisted. Don't get it twisted, nigger.
>>587109447Gomennasai, was meant for >>587086674
Clique
>>587100167The audiobook is great for a reread, it’s the closest we’re ever going to get to a movie and you can listen to it while killing alliance in forever
>>587110101cowforever...
>>587110101>no trollsYou need to remedy that mon
https://files.catbox.moe/2nitkl.pngMy tauren got, sticky...
>>587061801
Did you know that Retail is now called WoW: Era?>WoW: Era>WoW: Classic>WoW: ForeverThese are the official denominations
>my beloved Tauren have been co-opted by sick sexual freaks
>I can pay for my wow sub with 20 bucks worth of maccas now a monthKino
>>587106207Can't quit what I never started.It doesn't interest me.
>>587112614Fuck that, if Forever wants to call itself an alternate timeline, then we're clearly 'WoW: Prime'.
>>587110101may you all get cologne cancer and die painfuly
I don't understand people saying Forever is boring as shitWhat did you expect Early wow leveling isn't the most fun thing either
>>587113962but the updated water graphics and lighting. blizz spent 20 fucking minutes at their presentation talking about it instead of other things in forever
>>587113738I like that. Calling it prime from now on.
>>587113962I actually enjoy the slow leveling; it makes me feel myself growing stronger and wiser over time. It's genuinely fun.
>>587113738>'WoW: Prime'I like that. But I guess Classic and Forever players won't
>>587112676You still clicked that shit nigga and male tauren are extremely gay in case you didn't realize it. Furry men with strong empathy & soft personalities are always gay.
>>587114731Ask me if I care what they don't like.
>>587113962They changed too much instead of expanding on what classic or even sod has.
>>587114862>furry fags ruin everything they touchThanks for the insight anon
>>587115681Ruin everything they touch? holy LARP. male tauren where never yours to begin with, they were always in our touch.
https://youtu.be/1-VkSJCMVmcPretend I'm holding a mug
Every single criticism of retail people have is in Forever (but worse). Every single thing people praise about Forever is in retail (but better).What has mind broken people so hard that they can't see this?
>>58711732899% of Forever's budget went to paying streamers and content creators to shill the game.
be honest...thoughts on a shaman named: Chud andThunder?
>>587117328name some then?
>>587117328fagmanbald and ratpoppin' are the shrek gif personified and they perpetuate retail bad schtick as much as possible oh and they have huge audiences unfortunately
>>587118226No opinion because we only have single names here.Ask the other thread.
>>587119009oh really?thats very interesting...because by my count i don't see a particular version in the opvery curious isn't itbackseat janny
retoilet has been dead since the forever announce but you fags want to see the formal EoS letter first. what future does this game have except more cash shop items?>>587117328incredibly accurate. retoilet troonfur devs immediately abandoned the audience who actually supported their shit writing and tranny dragon OCs to do the exact same garbage to forev. they are never working in retail again. I'd be surprised if TLT even gets finished.the retoilet devs want to LARP as the party rockers who came before them - only, they have never and could never create anything good, so they have to use the goodwill earned by the 2004-2010 client. this is why they will never return to work on retail.happened in 2019 when they stopped creating .3 patches to work on classic, happening again now but worse.
>>587118320>retail is a raid logging game only for sweats>yet max level the only thing to do in forever is raids / dungeons>forever puts an emphasis on the world>yet it has no actual content outside of quests and farming elites. Meanwhile retail has millions of quests, tons of outdoor systems that are unique per zone, rares, treasures, achievements, cosmetics, secrets, etc.
>>587120879trvke they should have plagiarized some of what runescape does but blizzard devs are too mazed to realize that
Does Pathalerix have a higher drop rate set by blizz? He seems to get too lucky with the drops...
The story/creative is so bad I just pretend the game is pre shadowlands for fapping ERP
>>587119546Look harder then, there's no f.Blind fuck.
>>587116228every time i'm in a delve with her she ends up making me touch my weenieI delve many times daily
christ why did they give amani these gay african accents instead of some south american injun babble or even spanish
>>587120519your sister comes back from her date and brings this guy home what are you gonna do
ultimately, was he right?
>>587125290goes without saying, really
>>587125290I don't get itWHY does he need car to survive?
>>587119576Retail has been dying since Midnight launched and we all realised this is it for the entire Worldsoul saga
>>587125942with a car you can go anywhere you want
>>587106207waiting for the streamerslop to die down before i jump in for comfy levelling at my own pace
>>587106298
>>587126814never ever
>>587126814on one hand i want to play one so im sadon the other hand the furniggers spamming the general also want it so im glad we cant have it
prot war or brewmaster monk for my first tank? i want something fun to play but also a class with a fun dps spec
Some people are literally still playing this shi...
>>587125290who was car?
>>587129092Warrior, prot is comfy and fury will hold you over if you ever want to dpsWW is the forgotten younger child of two good specs. Also Brew seems to be very buggy this season but that might be just me
>>587120879>>587117328it's amazing how little retoilets get the appeal of Forever/Classic/VanillaYou just will never get it. I'm so glad your chosen version of the game is completely dead. You more than deserve it.
>>587086045>w*man prefers retail wowchecks out, retail is literally for women and faggots now, the actual intended audience
>>587135426See you in a year when your meme game is dead.
go back to your twitch chat general
>>587126814the one thing I want...
>>587135426And here you are, checking to make sure the people on their chosen 'dead' version aren't insulting your version #4 of the failed re-release, less than a week after it launches when it hasn't set in that you have absolutely fuck all to work with. Not insecure about what you're playing in the slightest.Yeaaah, we sure don't get it. 4th time in, we still don't get it. Completely lost on the playerbase. How dumb are we.
>>587136420>How dumb are we.Judging by your post? Very.
>>587136420Not a forever player but why are you trying to sound like a cartoon villain lol you sound mega gay
>>587135426>it's amazing how little retoilets get the appeal of Forever/Classic/Vanillawe love itwe just know you're a jeet and you need to be bullied relentlessly
the dragonflights better get an entire patch of being awesome in TLT or i will quit retail forever
>>587136508And I bet you can elaborate on why beyond "It's just better, okay?!"
>>587135426The appeal of "I played it during an impressionable stage of my life"?
>>587136698they keep showing up here to complain we're not playing what they're playing like children so why not
>>587137396this is the ultimate truth that many are afraid to admit, classic and forever aren't even close to hitting the same way as playing vanilla or even tbc back when it was the current retail expansion
>>587136947I've elaborated on why multiple times before what's the point when you fags don't even care to try to understand. You just want to be a pig and live in your pig pen.Yeah it is better. It has slower combat instead of spammy combat with infinite resources. It has no flying. It has no arena. It has no m+. It has no multiple raid difficulties. It has no multiple tiered gearing system with multiple tiered currency upgrade system. It doesn't have a million instanced 'zones' with teleports and portals. It doesn't have cringe xal'atath/j'lor villain baiting and umm ackshually light bad and void good storytelling.It is better.
>>587137853Holy fucking cope.
>>587138259>cope by posting factsHOLY FUCKING COPE AHAHAHAHA
>>587137853there is no storytelling at all, it's all just worldbuilding
>>587137853You act like that's so groundbreaking that retail doesn't even compare and we're just too stubborn to move.Nigger, We've done it. A bunch of us did it in vanilla when it actually was fresh and interesting, a bunch more of us did it when Classic released to re-experience it, whether it had the same impact or not, it served as a decent break and alternative.And yet here we are again. FOR THE FOURTH TIME. Do you seriously think we "just don't get it"?It's fine if you hate retail my guy,we all do. When the fuck was the last time you saw a cluster of posts here talking positively about Midnight? But you're coping so hilariously hard about your fourth iteration of the shit we've already done a fuckton.We actually wanted a proper Classic Plus, Nimrod. Instead we got Classic again with a paid recolour neutral race and some extra class combos. Big fucking woop!
You're playing World of Warcraft: Spinoff 4 and posting about it here, instead of the gener- oh wait. You don't even play this game. You've from /v/ or FFXIV trying to sow discourse. Are Foreverfrens trying to convince retail players or themselves?
The only thing worse than classic fags are the niggas in the thread who fight them by defending retailForever can be not for you but it doesn’t mean we can lower our expectations for Retail
>>587138767>A bunch of us did it in vanilla when it actually was fresh and interesting, a bunch more of us did it when Classic released to re-experience itSo did i.>And yet here we are again. FOR THE FOURTH TIME. Do you seriously think we "just don't get it"?Yes considering you're posting against it instead of playing it.>It's fine if you hate retail my guy,we all doDo you? Cause you're shilling for it right.>We actually wanted a proper Classic PlusAnd that's what we got.Anyway i'm done necro bumping your dead thread. Back to 1 hour between posts for you. I send you back to the shadow realm.
>>587138774Themselves that they aren't being abandoned for the 4th time
>>587139010That's funny, because to me the whole thing has looked like an all out assault from various groups against retail and retail players are just doing what we've always done. This is nothing new.
>finally open Forever>create character (Orc Mage)>load up>intro cinematic glitches out>Esc : skip cinematic>realize I need to set all my keybinds from scatch>bind essentials only and move out>relentless zoomzoom slang in /1>Valley of Trials completely packed not a single mob in sight>Esc : Exit Gamedone getting my first Forever Fix fellas, feels good to be back here at home
>>587139194>Do you? Cause you're shilling for it right.You feel free to point out where I've done that dude, cause all I'm doing is laughing at your ass come to the WoW: Prime thread and bitch we're not playing your game.Your worries about Forevers playerbase dropping as fast as the other Classics are very transparent.
Does anyone have that one image that keeps floating around here every now and again of that fem satyr?I should have saved it but I didn't. I need it
>>587139430You're always welcome home. I knew you wouldn't be gone for long.
the extreme primal need to impregnate nelf wife
>>587138767truke
>retail dies>retail team transfer to forever>forever gets the same problems as retail>they release forever classic>they release forever classic sod>they release forever forever and the cycle continues
>>587141821I'm holding out for Forever & Ever when we get Ice Elves.
>>587141943blizzard is prop by the belf model
vulpera furever
>>587142009Yeah, but this time they'll reuse the Night Elf model, and tie them in heavily with the Frost Nymphs in Northrend.We'll just have a subdivision that were living in part of the world that connected Winterspring to Northrend, and then these ones adapted their Druidic magic for much colder climates as we get a proper icy forest as their start zone.And some can turn to Shamanism thanks to contact with Frost Lord Ahune, because why the fuck not.
ah, the great outdoors
>>587139405>all out assault>a couple of losers over the course of a 2 day long thread shitpost about the state of retailCome on man
>>587141821That's not the cycle, tourist. I'll help you learn.>retail is retail and it is WoW as we all know it>every couple of years they make something different from retail>'retail is dead' posting ensues from your favorite youtubers and twitter circlejerksThe only reason Forever has all this hype is because none of the no-life players (except me apparently) likes Midnight. The core issues of the game are not fixed by a new coat of paint without bothering to roll primer. Everyone knows this. Have fun and enjoy it if you want buy shut the fuck up about it here already, it's not 'WoW 2' and it never will be. Call everyone and make a huge deal about it if they announce duplicate character transfers over to whichever new version they land on. Until that happens, retail will always be king. Because, whether anyone likes it or not, at it's core World of Warcraft. They can do a lot but they will never abandon that title. It was just World of Warcraft until you retards had to call it 'retail'.
can I actually play affliction or unholy in the 17/18+ key range or is it considered trolling?
>>587142719I call it retoilet
>>587142468The Forever general has been there since the beta. That's over a month at least of posting about Forever and coming to this general just to shit on retail for absolutely no reason other than tourist spite. I'd call that an assault, yeah. It's just like FFXIV players, and it is them too because they'll play any version of WoW that isn't retail. Go back and look through the threads if you want.
>>587143041Now its WoW:Prime.
>>587139194signs you're down bad and got beat down like the jeet you are:>Anyway i'm done necro bumping your dead thread>So did i.no you didn't lol>And that's what we got.fagever isn't even close to vanilla, its much closer to wrathyou're a fucking moronstay small nigger
Seeing the amount of classic players crying about the dungeon xp nerf is so nice. Only 3 days passed since launch and their game is already hedging players. Its because deep down they know retail players are right and slow leveling is not as fun as streamers made it out to be. I can't stand slow leveling like a normal person which is why I already came back to retail. Thats the game you wanted and begged for classic players. You will need to spend at least 2 more weeks questing consistently to get to 60 btw so enjoy it lmao
>>587144796For me it's not even the slow leveling, it's the absolute braindead gameplay while leveling that is so obnoxious
As I've said before this is essentially 2026's remix and they fucked up by naming it 'Forever' because it baited some idiots into thinking this is the end of retail and other idiots into thinking 'classic+' was a real thing. Their marketing team is pretty bad and relies on twitter/youtube/twitch and such. Footfags are out of fashion now so not even Xa'atath can help.The worst part is it's a shitty 'remix' and we can't even collect mogs and bullshit or be stupid powerful for fun. It's just classic and a lot of you fell for it. I haven't even played it by the way, I just know.
>>587143000You can play literally anything at that key level.
>>587144964Also it's like 2 months until Season 3 and every player and person is tired of the nonstop whining from everybody about everything. We're all tired. Keep perpetuating the shit though, keep going.
>>587143053You sound like a massive faggot, it’s just shitposting since blizzard are acting like they gave up on retail. It’s half Forever players and half retail players angry at the state of the gameHalf the shit I see here when talking about Forever is just retail players lamenting that the devs don’t give the same attention that forever is getting to retail.
hmm i think i will make my thorny horny Haranir shammy wife
>thread lasts the entirety of my weekendoof
>guy i know that wouldn't shut up about forever for the last 3 weeks and how "fuck retail that shit is dead bro" has been doing m+ all day for vault
>>587149509Sounds like he’s retarded either way
> 8 WoW generalsIs it really necessary?
>>587151006This is what happens when you re-release the game for the fourth time thinking it'll be different.
>>587149509It'd be wild to see Blizzards internal stats. I wonder how massive the drop off in players is at certain level ranges.I'd be amazed if more than 50% of all these new and returning players even get to level 20.
>>587151006Only one of those is this specific general, go bitch at the others.
>>587149509>still doing M+>still caring about your fucking vaultSome people are just brain damaged beyond repair
>>586969302>40 hours ago
>>587151006just like how many wow versions released by blizzard
Adventure done...
>>587151735well yea how many people end up progging heroics or even mythic raids, or pushing KSM since its piss easy apparently
>>587151735>It'd be wild to see Blizzards internal stats.I'd love to see them someday. I genuinely cannot comprehend the type of player that doesn't do raids, dungeons, ect.Like, what does their gameplay look like? What do they do when they log into WoW?
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