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>>587045174
wtf
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>>587045216
1 second again
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>>587045174
is this a troll bake?
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>hag thread
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No.
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You wish, Beakek.
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We love evil women here
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>>587045174
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Sex with Beatrice
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Thoughts?
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>>587045305
But we don't love Junko
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Can we have a different thread I don't like this one
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>>587045356
none
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>>587045356
Paizuri
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>>587045256
>I said I'm baking Beatrice bread as a joke
>Shit no one bakes fr
>Bake said Beatrice bread
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>>587045275
>cute ao love
>momoi better
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IT'S A GOOKAKOBAKE ABANDON SHIP
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>>587045356
Picked The Worst Design As Usual award.
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sKisaki meta.
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Op picture makes me feel more violated than when a student did it
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>>587045174
BASED
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>>587045356
I like the one we got but the open mid section one is hot.
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>>587045174
Why is there a non-student kissing Sensei in the OP?
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>>587045449
That's not Kei
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>>587045460
Is the AI even remotely smart enough to use uNeru or did you get ridiculously lucky?
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>>587045158
What? The gamers fully understood the weight of it, Momoi made a hypothetical question to Midori and then jokingly laughed it off before admitting to herself she would do the same as the deca cunnies if it came down to it, she out of everyone would know Malkuth's pain
They couldn't really mourn in the moment since their lives were in danger.
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I am in danger...
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>beatrix bread
me and all my homie hates beatrix
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>>587045538
retard
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>>587045570
Shiroko raped me.
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>>587045356
>Last one has a different expression
Stop! Eimi is overheating!

One must understand the character before designing outfits for them.
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why?
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>>587045445
problem?
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>>587045529
I'm not sure about that match, but there are uNeru counters. AI just spams skills from left to right, but if you have a lot of low cost skills uNeru kills yellow tanks just fine. She also 1v1s bNeru comfortably.
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>>587045256
Yea
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>>587045615
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>Nagusa loves Sensei
>Nagusa is Yandere for Ayame
How does it work?
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>>587045615
>dot on the random rock
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>>587045374
Omg traitorbro hi!
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>>587045275
>Chewy literally finished without gook
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あの連邦生徒会長はニセモノ
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>>587045538
This post kills the doomcucks
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remember to hold your pee
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>>587045356
We got the best design imo
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>>587045529
As with any stance change students you need to rotate back to them for them to use their skill but sKisaki helps with that. Though I use uNeru against yellow armor often even without sKisaki.
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>>587045650
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>>587045538
>Momoi made a hypothetical question to Midori and then jokingly laughed it off before admitting to herself she would do the same as the deca cunnies if it came down to it, she out of everyone would know Malkuth's pain
literally one of my fav parts from the story
that part specifically hits extra hard if you have siblings
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Honestly, how should Ayame deal with Nagusa without hurting her feelings before she crashed out? Like:
>Hey, I feel so pressured already and I don't want you to be all over me.
That would make it so awkward for Nagusa to work with Ayame or even stay in the club.
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>>587045659
Like this
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It's honestly really funny I spent so much time posting short haired Kei for years, to think they actually acknowledged that as a possible design makes me happy
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>>587045502
Sensei is starting to understand just how limited his options are.
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>>587045851
damn so those leaked concept artworks really were real
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Kill all gookako posters
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>>587045785
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any vegan student?
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beatrice is only hot in her monster form
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Go to sleep
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>>587045812
She just had to be honest
>Hey Nagusa the pressure is getting to me and I want to leave the club and I also need some time alone
Instead she had a woman moment
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It sucks that Kei doesn't use Momoi's uniform like how Aris use Midori's.
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>>587045804
It's one of the worst parts because it shits on the message of volume 2 entirely
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>>587045816
I'm erect at the thought of being a part of Nagusa's Harem. When is Yukari joining in?
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>>587045993
based
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>>587045898
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>>587045928
She tried that
>I'm going off to find kuzunoha
Nagusa was a bitch and followed her while telling her "kuzunoha isn't real" the entire time trying to kill the last piece of hope she had whe she was already at her limit
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>>587045972
>shits all over the most boring volume of the main story
wtf I like Vol. Ex now?!
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>>587045972
retardo
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have you forgive them, bag?
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>>587045804
It was one of my favorite bits too
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>>587045538
And then /bag/ comes in and said that it's Momoi's death foreshadowing... I'm into that idea.
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I liked vol ex I hope they kill off more students
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>>587045862
uuuuuhhh sauce?
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>>587046168
[Kazumiya (Arisu Kazumi)] Hifumi to Himitsu no Kankei ni Natteshimatta Hanashi - A story about getting into a secret relationship with Hifumi. (Blue Archive) [English] [Loli Boob Scans] [Digital]
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I believe in the Villain Midori arc and the rise of Ao at the death of Momoi.
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>>587046135
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Jumby my beloved...
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>>587046047
Don't worry they are all in
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>>587046124
Yes
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>>587046275
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>they wanted Himari's wheelchair to have a seat in the back for bEimi like Iroha and Ibuki
Why can't we have cool things.
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You know, Ayame haven't apologized to Yukari because she went through a beatdown physically and mentally due to Ayame's lack of communication skills.
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>>587046124
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>>587046450
Based
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>>587045972
>Rio:sacrifices are okay sometimes so I'll sacrifice this small child and then sacrifice myself, the ends justify the means, pragmatism for the win
>Blue Archive: actually no we wish to be a game that stands for the opposite of pragmatism, in fact sacrifices are never alright and you need to find another way instead of thinking that sacrificing yourself is alright, you ALWAYS need to find another way, as long as you believe it's alright sometimes you will end up relying on that option and you'll never try to find the happy ending for everyone where everyone needs to survive
>Every single chapter of BA is about "fuck pragmatism, we CAN save everyone and find the happy ending. Do not worry small child, I shall save you"
>Up until volume EX
>Despite the fact Momoi got off on Rio in chapter 2 about still being a pragmatic retard and telling her she needs to get rid of that idealogy
>The story ultimately ends with the moral "pragmatism is always good, sometimes we should sacrifice ourselves or others for the greater good, kiritsugu was right, the smallest number of victims is ultimately the better solution, Rio should have killed Alice"
Momoi was the representation of the "fuck pragmatism" idealogy in volume 2 so having her deliver the "pragmatism is good actually I would sacrifice myself for others in a heartbeat" was the ultimate betrayal of volume 2
>Yeah but she only said sacrificing ehrself is good in some situations
Just like Rio then retard, they can't criticize rios retarded idealogy if they end up agreeing with it
This game was all about the opposite of this idealogy originally, it stops as a game that was all about not being about this exact same thing, which is what made it a happy ending story, only to end up falling into the same trap as literally every other series in the end and ultimately it compromised
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>>587046135
>>587046275
>>587046390
K-kino, That additional dialogue with Sensei actually sells it.
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how long until the Trinity bounty gets updated? Odyssey’s release?
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>>587046408
That explains the combined victory screen animation
Iroha dev bias
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>>587046059
No retard. Ayame left without any explanations to look for a ghost and then when too much time passed Nagusa naturally got worried and went to look for her. Ayame would had died in the snowfield if no one had come to pick her up (like some other Abydos idiot).
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>>587046135
>>587046390
>>587046275
kino
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Do you guys think Momoi and Midori... you know...
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>>587046498
Nta, but I don't recall the deca trio's sacrifice being a willing one.
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>>587045615
Chewy has unironically one of the most, if not the most, beautiful face in the entire game imo
Her hair and skin look so soft, she has such a warm and kind expression, and her ear showing is fucking hot
Also, I prefer Arona, I wouldn't want to lose her for Bigrona to come back
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>>587046616
you might have dementia
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I bet Chewy smells good
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>>587046662
I need to re-read, I keep thinking that it was Aris that sacrificed her past identity.
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>>587046626
Many are saying this
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>>587045615
>competent president who gave us FOX
>not-arona who literally destroyed the world
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>>587046626
I say this
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It's funny that some of the "clearly leader material" isn't the leader of the club. Momoi, Yukari, Ayane and etc.
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>>587046498
>Momoi was the representation of the "fuck pragmatism" idealogy in volume 2 so having her deliver the "pragmatism is good actually I would sacrifice myself for others in a heartbeat" was the ultimate betrayal of volume 2
It really isn't.
This is as retarded a take as claiming that VF was a betrayal of V2 because Sensei would always tell his students that sacrificing yourself is never the solution but instantly sacrifices himself at any opportunity to save another student, even one from another timeline.

Momoi being willing to fold on her ideals for her sister is absolutely zero tonal clash and it is beyond certified autism to think otherwise.
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>>587046905
Yukari isn't leader yet because she's a first year
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>>587046905
Ayane should have never stepped down as president.
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>>587046905
Have you seen Gehenna and RW?
Momoi is school leader material.
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>>587046498
You wrote all this wall only for me to simply tell you the Deca Cunnies were already going to die and chose to go against their god in their final moments for their new founded friends.
All the pragmatism in the world can't save a child with stage 4 cancer.
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It's funny that Momoi isn't the leader of Millennium when she is highly capable of using people's interest to her advantage. Even more so manga Momoi.
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Live.
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Shut up, nigga
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>>587047056
>>587047083
president no
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Yesod won
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Reminder that the future of Millennium will be under the hands of a failed gambler, who will likely go through fx trading.
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Address me.
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>>587047087
Why does the prime minister dress like a whore?
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>>587047087
GUHHHHHHHH
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>>587047056
>>587047083
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i've had this fantasy for a while of sensei being forced/coerced into cucking his students with beatrice, this is the closest thing i've seen so far
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>>587046983
This, Ayane is hauling everyone's ass. And that's way beyond a treasurer's job scope.
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>>587047246(me)
Oh wait, she's a secretary .
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>>587047219
why do you niggas need to make everything so weird, just fuck her like a normal human bean
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>>587047382
>human bean
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Since we're on the topic of student council head. Was the reason that Millennium did well after Rio left because Yuuka was steering the wheels or was it because Rio committed to the role of being batman?
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>>587047417
retard
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>>587047129
faker(cute)
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>>587047417
retard
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>>587047486
The former
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>>587047521
how they are gonna explain it other than what was in the forums sticky, anyway? if people didn't learn maths in their school years, they won't teach them in half an hour either
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>>587047486
its because millenium is full of nerds, and the troublemakers already got kicked out
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>>587046498
You didn't understand Volume F.
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>>587046960
No, it's because everyone is stronger than her. Plus no one wants to hand the weapon to the girl who worked hard with sensei to unite a bunch of retarded assholes.
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>>587045174
please say sike...
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>>587047486
Yuuka is just that good
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>>587047417
genius!
smart!
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Fuck monsters
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I think it's perfectly human to be a hypocrite and that's why i like the idea of Sensei being against Rio sacrificing herself all the while he was willing to sacrifice himself or Momoi willing to throw her life for Midori if it comes to it
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>>587047486
Rio ran Millennium just that well. She was presumably the one presiding over its rise as one of the great new academies of Kivotos and that's with all the embezzlement. Without that crisis averted, all that extra funding that used to go into trying to prevent the doom that Rio predicted is going back into Millennium, giving the school even more funds to work with.
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>>587045668
Rocky is real...
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I think
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I don't understand how the "pre-registration" thing works. The e-mail I got says "don't forget to claim your pre-registration gift" but how the fuck do I do that?

t. New Sensei
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>>587045174
Collection of stuff from the stream? I was busy through the whole Dev talk part
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>>587047809
rewards are sent later, and supposedly to everyone either way
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>>587047809
everyone always gets the pre-registration gifts. you only pre-register if you want to volunarily give nexon your data
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>>587047775
WITH the crisis averted, it's getting late and my brain is skipping beats more than usual...
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>>587047809
you got scammed bwo...
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Since we're on the topic of student council head. Was the reason that Millennium did well after Rio left because Yuuka was steering the wheels or was it because Rio committed to the role of being batman?
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>>587047809
You get the rewards at a later date. And you don't actually have to pre-register to get the rewards, everyone gets them. That sounds like a troll but it's true. The pre-register is just there to get people on a mailing list.
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is latest comiket numbers out yet? i need to see how many my snotwife got
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Chewy and Kasumi were BUILT for Irrumatio tbqh
>why?
just cause
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>>587047857
just scroll through last thread
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She's a hot topic right now.
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corpo bootlicker or based?
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>>587045538
>>587045158
>only allowed ourselves to break down once we were alone with Yuuka
English only iirc. A mistranslation, Sensei never ever "breaks down" but Yuuka does cry from Sensei's retellings
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>>587046905
>1st year
>1st year
>1st year
I mean
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>>587047909
I'm sorry, fellow commiedork lover.
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>>587048020
Oh it's a pet care website
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And I'll add because I've taken enough screenshots of this game to surpass the amount of fanart I have saved up, Decagrammaton is Rio in this scenario. It had already sacrificed the deca cunnies for his own cause. The moment she emerged their deaths were sealed.
>>587048064
Sensei does cry when he's with Arona and Plana.
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Konoka honeypotted me
It was worth it
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>>587048092
makoto must be anti-sex
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>>587048050
Sometimes a joke is just a joke
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>>587048050
>corpo bootlicker
holy reddit
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>>587048092
>Hina that high
How does she do it?
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>>587048092
>Hina that high
>despite barely getting any screentime this year
whats going on here
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>>587048173
>Sensei does cry when he's with Arona and Plana.
He doesn't, and Arona and Plana specifically point out that he doesn't
I remember, because I thought it was cringe and bad writing. "Boys don't cry" bullshit. "The adult has to put on a strong face". Adults do actually cry, if they are wise and old
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What's the must have from the shupogaki event shop? I don't know any of these things
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>>587048275
Gifts. Then books and CDs of you have any shuppos. If not then get the other artifacts, you'll need all of them eventually.
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>>587046905
I can't believe Yuuka isn't the head of Millenium.
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>>587046275
>>587046390
>>587046524
kino, momoi going back on her words from earlier in the story and reversing the lesson from volume 2 chapter 2 is so kino
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>>587048273
He asked Arona and Plana not to cry for his sake. He was putting up a tough face.
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>>587048092
>Nozomi, the objectively hotter twin, twice as popular as Hikari

Nature is healing
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Globalbros, what are your ligma plans for fes?
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>>587048250
Mostly SFW though.
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>>587048497
Simply not spending any. I just roll students for the momotalks.
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>>587048357
Wouldn't half of her ass stick out with a skirt this short?
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>>587048497
400 pulls regardless of if I get the banner girls, sparking both for extra ligma.
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>>587048583
I often wonder the same of Wakamo.
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>>587048497
UE40 sIroha, uNeru, UE30 sMakoto, sIbuki, rHifumi
I don't know how much that means if they all start at 4*, but it's looking bad
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>>587048408
I like this cute Reisa, can we have cute Reisa?
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>>587048632
>I don't know how much that means if they all start at 4*, but it's looking bad
buy ligma pakeji
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>>587048142
Watch out! She's invincible!
Don't watch V gundam.
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>>587048583
you say that like it's a bad thing
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>>587048673
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>>587048743
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>>587048583
oh no
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>>587045972
yeah
>>587045804
I have siblings. A better written story taught me that killing yourself to save somebody else when there's any possibility at all that you won't necessarily die, is better. It's called Blue Archive--oh, shit

Well that aside World Trigger also had that lesson. One of the characters has survivor's guilt because she may have caused the death of a friend and a group of people to do something extremely dire. Her mentor sits down with her and tells her the story of his dad, who was a rescue worker who worked so hard that he died saving others. She remarks that he was a great man. Her mentor remarks that he was a fool. That a person playing hero and dying just means they fucking die. That you dying to rescue another person is not profound. Not only do you leave those who live in mourning, you also prevent yourself from ever saving anyone again. Basically, "if you can, you should maximize the amount of people you can rescue into perpetuity". In fact, this is also generally how rescue practices are taught, because risking oneself for another can often simply result in two graves. In many cases we have another course.

\Well the issue with BA is mostly that it does not sufficiently explain whether or not there is recourse for the brats. Because it's all stuff nobody understands that has not at all been properly detailed, they can just write whatever. They just HAVE to die, they just MUST stay dead, because. It even ignores how death in our world, or machines being broken, is not necessarily "true death" because we have various practices to revive the dead and broken. The writing ignores that completely.

If you want something like PSensei or Sensei's sacrifices, it's not even the same as "one rescue pod is left".
PSensei was a literal walking corpse.
Sensei on the other hand had one "charge" of a teleporting device left.
Momoi's proposal is one "pod". How big is the pod? It can only save 1 person? Where's everyone else? Etc

tl;dr it's cheesy/bad
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The most disgusting Torment clear imaginable but I don't care.
Plat is plat and I still have my hair
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>>587048470
Yes I just said that, and I'm saying it was cringe
post the next part where they tell him "but you aren't crying"
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mucho texto
qrd por favor
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It's honestly annoying that this faggot keeps recycling his arguments with a volume he clearly didn't read.
Kill yourself already.
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>>587047909
It was never going to get that much attention for Comiket considering she was released rather too late into the year.

>>587048195
Blame Pikachuman and whoever wrote the last two events involving her for that.
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>>587048064
L10N's mtl failed on me but the subject wasn't specified in KR
JP interpreted it as Yuuka and EN interpreted it as Sensei
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>>587045174
beat rice?
I hardly know rice!
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>>587046905
>Momoi
More or less the leader, not like the GDD really needs one. But she's still too impulsive and immature to lead.

>Yukari
Still too naive and inexperienced, but has been improving from how she was at the start of Volume 6. Could be one after Nagusa leaves.

>Ayane
Level-headed and bureaucratic enough for the role, but she didn't really like the expectations or attention placed on her when she was President.
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>>587048876
>better written story taught me that killing yourself to save somebody else when there's any possibility at all that you won't necessarily die, is better. It's called Blue Archive--oh, shit
NOT* killing yourself
obviously
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>>587048931
>give the can't be saved students super cancer so it's ok
bad writing desu
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I kinda want Beatrice to come back
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>>587048986
It doesn't really make sense if it's Sensei given the idea was Yuuka's reaction
Well, that's my opinion at least and also remains consistent with the cheesy "boys don't cry" angle the story is sticking with for Sensei here
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Chise is book smart.
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>>587049072
She was easily the worst villain. Why would you possibly want that?
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>>587049050
I guess children dying of cancer irl is also considered bad writing
>Why didn't Sensei call Goku to fight the cancer away
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>>587048251
Hina was always popular and has a die-hard fanbase, and you should know by know a character can be popularity with little involvement in the story. (NiyaNiya)
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>>587046498
>>587046498
>in fact sacrifices are never alright and you need to find another way instead of thinking that sacrificing yourself is alright, you ALWAYS need to find another way, as long as you believe it's alright sometimes you will end up relying on that option and you'll never try to find the happy ending for everyone where everyone needs to survive
This is literally not true and proves you don't understand BA. The story very, VERY specifically draws a distinction between sacrificing the few for the many from a collective or external perspective and making your own choice to sacrifice yourself for others.
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>>587048050
We love Kim here
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I passed out for 12 hours after work because my life is miserable how was the stream fellas
any part in particular i should toss on over breakfast? i probably don't have time to watch everything today
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>>587049292
We got some neat concept art. Pretty much the only thing of importance.
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>>587049242
It also makes a very clear distinction that self-sacrifice should only be done by adults.
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>>587049242
nta you are being argumentative for argument's sake

No, he is correct, and they double down on this.
1. Sensei says that the trolley problem, sacrificing few for the many, is bad because it is a nonsense setup. We should look for help.
2. Momoi in volume ex adds to this, saying you should never kill yourself to rescue others.
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>>587049182
>SENSEI GETS OUT HIS ADULT CARD TO POWER UP AND FIX EVERYTHING INSTANTLY
i fucking hate these fags
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>>587049249
This but Jong un
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>>587049178
bro your steaks?
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>>587049292
you could have the band/dj stuff as background noise
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>>587049426
I like my steaks like I like my cortisol. Low.
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>>587049110
Once again, it's up to interpretation as the subject wasn't specified. You only say Yuuka fits because that's how it was in JP
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>>587048878
You literally have the units to 1-team TOR, Anon. What are you doing?
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>>587049572
well that and it makes more sense but sure if we want we can ignore Sensei explicitly choosing to not cry even in a private moment
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>>587049473
Omg traitor hi!
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>>587049658
nincompoop
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>>587049532
so fucking fat.
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Omg royalist hi!
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>>587049348
Yeah it SHOULD be that way, vol EX is not a rejection of that claim and in fact supports it. Hence why it's portrayed as a tragedy when it happens to the Deca triplets and not when it happens to Phrenaptes. The very difference in the framing of those 2 events is literally what proves your entire dumb criticism objectively wrong.

>>587049378
You're a retard and completely don't understand what I just said.
>1. Sensei says that the trolley problem, sacrificing few for the many, is bad because it is a nonsense setup. We should look for help.
>2. Momoi in volume ex adds to this, saying you should never kill yourself to rescue others.
The trolley problem is bad because it's nonsense from a pragmatic sense because it only considers 2 potential outcomes. That is not the case in vol EX as it was not a pragmatic choice to sacrifice them when no other options considered. It as a rational outcome. The deca triplets sacrificing themselves wasn't a pragmatic decision. It was an emotional decision made out of love when very clearly there literally isn't any other possible outcome. You can't just say sacrifice is bad because there's always a way to save everyone in the moment because that's literally objectively untrue.
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>>587049753
Marina, take this guy to the "reeducation" camp
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>>587048079
Wasn't there at least 1 or 2 first years that are the head of their club?
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>>587049842
I don't see any point in immediately resorting to insults in a discussion but I did say "you're being argumentative for argument's sake" and that seems to remain true to you ignoring game details being pointed out and reinterpreting them to your argument despite the text contradicting you.
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>>587049930
are those bite marks
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>>587047775
I forgot about the lack of high income embezzlement probably bringing about the rise of Millennium.
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>>587048931
If it's not clear, the skipreader doomxissy also didn't read or understand Volume 2.
>Rio was only criticized by other characters for being self-righteous and forcing her decisions without consulting others
>Sensei never even attacked Rio's utilitarian perspective of choosing the least amount of sacrifice in a trolley problem
>he only claimed that the question itself is flawed because the lever puller could simply have missed looking for others who could've helped
Imagine repeatedly claiming that a story contradicts established themes for months when you are a retard who never understood the themes in the first place.
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>>587049964
>trying to play the calm unbiased free thinker when you literally aren't even providing a single argument and intentionally misunderstand what other people are say
King of the midwits.
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>>587049968
Yes.
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>>587049842
>>587049964
All of this is ignoring how extraordinarily contrived Volume Ex is, also.

Let's not forget that Sensei using powers that genuinely warp reality loses to Decagrammaton between episodes because the writers want to emphasize DECA IS JUST THAT POWERFUL NOW which opens the floor to loads of questions, given Ohr earlier in the story points out Sensei is able to replace the texture of the world if he wants to, but now these extraordinary powers are no longer viable and the children feel death is the only option
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>>587049627
I think the writers made it vague on purpose but idk
People do get sleepy after crying their hearts out and Yuuka asked Sensei if he was sleepy at the end though
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>>587050112
Retard now you've definitely proven that you don't understand BA. Sensei literally never uses his adult card as an asspull. Literally never once happens.
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>>587049594
Mika is UE30 and I can't kill pillars fast enough.
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>>587050107
>bite mark on thighs
holy sexo
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Anyone know a counter for this defense Yuuka/Tsubaki/Eimi/sHina/Iroha/Utaha?
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Retards, he's trolling you. He isn't trying to win an argument, he just wants you to keep replying so he can derail the thread.
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>>587050159
I didn't say "asspull" and why are you calling me a retard exactly? Deca literally says "bring on everything you have, shittim chest, credit card, whatever"
Sensei them immediately loses with tools that used to be able to turn the tide of battle completely
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>>587050019
>you should always aim to try and save everyone in any situation
>everyone would be willing to sacrifice themselves if it was the only way to save someone they love
I don't get why these retards don't understand that these 2 statements do not contradict each other.
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>>587050216
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>>587049968
she fell down the stairs
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>>587050201
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>>587045174
Bad thread
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>>587050061
I pointed out text, what's the text you've pointed out where Momoi is not against Rio's earlier philosophy of "if I need to, I'll kill myself to save others"?

Here
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but sure call me a midwit or retard, that's a lot more cool.
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>>587050320
>posting an image that doesn't even support his own argument because it doesn't talk about self sacrifice and is instead talking about pragmatic collective sacrifice
Literally proving my point.
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And I don't understand this idea that Sensei has to be the Mcguffin all the time, Sensei's powers are within his authority, when he became without defenses he got shot. When Hoshino turned Terror he had a panic attack. When Decagrammaton neutered all of his authorities he begged for the lives of his students.
The credit card doesn't power up Sensei, just his students. The credit card is not the solution to all problems, neither is the Shitim chest. Situations like this aren't common things Sensei could fix. In fact Sensei was wishing for power himself so he wouldn't have to call the gamers to the Arctic and put their lives in danger by bringing them there, because he was helpless.
>>587049842
Someone who can actually read.
>>587050112
This isn't the first time it happened retard. Volume F Sensei also had lost control of the Kivotos tower all the while a bunch of sanctums dropped into Kivotos and neutered his plot armor.
The difference is, Deca HAD the authority in the Steel Continent because of the established sanctum there. This wasn't a matter of strength, Deca was the one with access to those reality warp powers there. No part of this is contrived.
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>>587050310
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>>587050303
Already tried those a few days ago, neither worked
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Mika. What.
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https://x.com/OTZ_sensei/status/2118683794152861977
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Mika wonned
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>>587050404
Are you for real?
Do you want me to also point out how Sensei says he was literally being hypocritical and that he sees sacrifice as worthwhile should it come to it, and Ein/Sof/Ohr tell him that's probably why he never explicitily denounced Rio?
Basically setting up Momoi also being hypocritical to her earlier views.

Honestly whatever you just seem to want to insist that your view on things is the only correct one, even if I point to where the text is disagreeing with you you'll just say "No this black means white"
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People will acknowledge that the schizo has been repeating the same thing for months, and then proceed to argue with him for hours anyway.
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Weh.
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I think Iroha should sacrifice herself for the betterment of the thread.
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>>587050517
>Do you want me to also point out how Sensei says he was literally being hypocritical and that he sees sacrifice as worthwhile should it come to it, and Ein/Sof/Ohr tell him that's probably why he never explicitily denounced Rio?
>now he's posting evidence that proves MY argument right
I've never seen someone arguing in such a blatantly self defeating manor.
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>>587050540
To be fair, most normal people are just sitting in the background. I do wish we didn't have such blatant repeats, with the same images even.
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>>587050413
>This isn't the first time it happened retard. Volume F Sensei also had lost control of the Kivotos tower all the while a bunch of sanctums dropped into Kivotos and neutered his plot armor.
No, actually, it is the first time it's ever happened and it was done basically to establish just how fucked this particular situation is.

In volume F, you actually do "win" after using your credit card. Thing is, PSensei is effectively unable to be destroyed and puts things into a position where shooting guns won't solve the problem of the ship being in self destruct mode.

Stop calling people retarded, you keep just making shit up and getting angry on your own.
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pyroxene is stored in the balls
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Mika wombed.

But I don't have a picture of pregnant Miga to post.
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We should summon Irohascizo, it's the only to way to save the thread
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To be unfair
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>>587050413
>>587050517
>>587050589
>>587050623
monkeys
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>>587048491
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>>587050589
Was your argument how all of the writing is contrived and steps over its own past established ideas, such as those in volume 1 chapter 3 where Hoshino is determined to sacrifice herself to rescue everyone else when given an ultimatum?
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Things would be different if meg schizo was here
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>587050686
You've proven yourself objectively wrong and that you're a retard so you don't get anymore (you)s.
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it's MegGOD to you, punk
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Ugh. Megu.
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>>587050652
I’d gladly eat it. She went to so much effort to make a rollcake log chocolate for me
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Chihiro alt when?
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I wonder if they're gonna retcon Nozomi the same way they did Kei after the way jp players imposed their views on her thanks to her pajama promo material
>inb4 Kei had no personality to begin with
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>>587050287
>>everyone would be willing to sacrifice themselves if it was the only way to save someone they love
this is essentially writing only
in reality, it's extremely rare that a situation will be such that it is you or your loved one. Sure there are plenty where you can risk yourself for a loved one, but like
Rescue boats basically never support only one passenger
In a mass shooting event, running out to stop the shooter does not necessarily mean you WILL die
In many crisis situations you won't be alone
In a house on fire you will have plenty of options to get out together
Even in fiction, a lot of the big sacrifices are basically contrived to force matters through almost, or actual, magical circumstances to ensure that the realistic approach (we as a community help one another overcome the ordeal) can't take place
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>>587050753
>no argument
I knew it.
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Does Beatrice really have big boobs, or does Beatrice have really big boobs?
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OMG Volume 3 is so contrivedly written. How did the Shittim Chest (that could retexture the world) run out of power after one explosion and protecting Sensei from mere debris?
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>>587050901
I thought they did a decent job of a retcon for Kei. For one thing she WAS actually occassionally snippy (See: her reaction to Momoi, deleting her save data) and for the other they actually presented a pretty realistic response to being forcibly revived.

They overdo it a bit with the tsundere stuff, but I let it slide like "before volume ex, she was determined to not 'be', to exist as a non-entity in support of Aris but not a person herself"
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>>587050623
>it is the first time it's ever happened
It's not. Francis straight up tells you your plot armor as the main character ceased to be. And the Sanctum Tower was held hostage by Kaiser so you couldn't operate the Shitim chest which is why Kana had to save you and got injured. The sanctums are the reason Deca won the first confrontation.
>In volume F, you actually do "win" after using your credit card.
You won because the students were stalling Phrenapates as Rin blasted the entire area with the ship and the ark started to fall. You didn't have to kill Phrenapates as long as the ark was destroyed.
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>>587051072
idk if you're trying to pull a gotcha, but indeed that is inconsistent writing. Arona can tank multiple explosions later by herself in volume F
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>>587050941
malkuth, it's time to give you a womb
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If Global gets the extra 100 pulls for Fes, for a total of 200, will you pull for anyone running right now? (Makoto, D.Ako, etc)
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>>587050902
This is true. Just like how them coming back to life will be just as contrived and a product of writing.
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>>587051218
>If Global gets the extra 100 pulls for Fes
what?
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>>587051218
By the time we get the free pulls their banner would be over.
And no fucking way am I pulling for Makoto. I'd rather build up pity.
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>>587051183
No I mean it's the first time there's a "battle to be won using Sensei's bullshit tools" and the bullshit tools do not pull out a win. The game's tagline, I'll remind you, is "the place where miracles begin" not "miracles don't always happen"
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>>587050630
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stop it
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megu, but as a baby
she's back, and boy is she hungry
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>>587051218
neither see much use
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>>587051072
>One explosion
This one explosion contain 1000-1500kg of TNT. You underestimate its power
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>>587051414
4 is peak
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>>587051257
There's a rumor we'll be getting Yostar compensation this Fes.
>>587051270
>By the time we get the free pulls their banner would be over.
That's irrelevant, you'll be saving pyros from the 100 pulls which you can use now.
>>587051370
Makoto is perfect for Train P2. She hits all bombs + healing drone.
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>>587051445
What the fuck are you even talking about? If we get the compensation why would they put it on the D.Ako/Makoto banner?
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>>587051445
retard
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>>587051414
/bag/ (we) always wanted short hair Kei
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>>587051414
High T short hair lovers lost...
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How much money would you need to shoot Sensei?
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>>587051445
That globalcuck coping.
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>>587051570
where's the zorn at
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>>587051570
I'm Sensei
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>>587051274
>Vol F
The miracle began with the efforts of everyone coming together.
>Vol 1
The miracle began with a lack of closure.
>Vol EX
The miracle began with children revolting against their programming.

Sensei didn't pull off a miracle, merely capitalized upon them.
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>>587051532
You can't be this dense.

>Save pyros for fes
>Suddenly fes gets a huge discount
>Pyro that was going to get used then can get used now
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>>587051650
Yeah, and that discount would be on the S.Makoto/S.Satsuki, or S.Iroha/S.Ibuki, not Makoto/D.Ako.
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>>587051570
where's zoo
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>>587051695
Haven't you already saved for those? Technically you'd just be saving the pyros then to use them further ahead.
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>>587051638
w/e
I still maintain volume ex doesn't set up properly why the sacrifice is absolutely necessary
And as for the battle being too overwhelming to overcome, I can accept it since stories are allowed to have "first" moments, it's just awkward to me because that same story (I mean volume ex) points out how Sensei's potential to change the world is basically infinite, but he bows his head instead.
Not complaining about that btw, I don't care about him being "shamed" or anything.
It's just feeling kind of have cake eat too.
- the character can do anything
- he does not
- other characters do something with no real explanation as to why it's necessary, then die
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>>587051638
It's literally one of sensei's most defining character traits that he's mostly hands off becuase he values student's agency. He's a teacher, not a hero.
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>>587051842
this nigga is still around? i thought he quit the game o algo
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>>587051941
why did you think that?
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>>587051445
>There's a rumor we'll be getting Yostar compensation this Fes.
if we were to get it at all it would be on the next one (same one JP will get the compensation for), not the upcoming one. there's no way we're getting that compensation months before JP gets it, don't be stupid
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what does algorithms have to do with anything?
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>>587051842
What's with the sudden Rio's new trend of outfit?
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>>587051960
zucking zoos' zussy
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staring at Neru's chest every time she's around me
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>>587051968
ah shit guess i mistook him with some other riofag
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>>587051941
He's still making Rio's animation to sell on fanbox or whatever.
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>>587052003
the thai collab gave her a new outfit
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what chest bro
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ender chest
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>>587052040
>that little bump
GUH
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>>587052003
Omg traitor faggot hi!
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coom in Nozoom.
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remember that time I saved kivotos?
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>>587052003
Kys Yuuka tranny.
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coom in doom
rope in hope
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>>587052325
This is your best one yet.
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A shut-in with no connection to anyone sacrificing other people for the "greater good" is not the same thing as Momoi valuing her sisters life more than her own
There are no messages being contradicted, singlechild-kun
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>samefagging
Why is pagpag so pathetic
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>>587052325
The problem is that the Raita tits ruins them all.
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>>587051941
>o algo
why did all mexicans suddenly start saying this
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are you guys fighting again
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I have four siblings.
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>>587052410
you seem to have caught the big gay
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o algo
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>>587051990
game desperately needed some ZR to be honest
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yo quiero tacos y burritos senor
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>>587052196
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I'm a bit autistic so I can't quite understand expressions of emotions, what is this facial expression supposed to convey
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>>587051206
It's meant to poke fun at the midwit. The shittim chest and its power to "rewrite reality" has established limits in older volumes so it's not actually contrived for it to lose to something that supposedly reached Godhood. It had limits on how long it could prevent Sensei from being crushed by rubble in Volume 3 and Volume F established that Arona alone can't protect him from dying during his freefall.
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>>587052518
this
ZR is very overdone but people does it for a good reason.
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>>587052457
all the best memes come from /int/
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>>587052381
You do know that Rio tried to sacrifice HERSELF, right? And that that was Momoi's issue at the start of volume ex

Also I assume you're talking about me/others, and I have two siblings.
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>>587052553
kek
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>>587051426
The bomb was literally created by Golconde, why would its power be limited to the nature of the world?
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The summaryfag is autistic.
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>>587052553
Why are their phones not snatched yet
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>>587052681
>
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Do your Hod runs right now.
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>>587052681
Bro...
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>>587052580
Nah bro Sensei needs to aura farm and destroy entire armies with his epic card powers because i'm- i mean he's so cool and adult
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>>587052580
?
The limits were quite literally released by Plana plus although you want to call people midwits, it's not exactly intelligent behavior to ignore parts of a story that don't suit your points. Like for example, "Ohr literally points out that the potential is enough to re-texture the world". Like, what value do you gain from ignoring this?
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>>587052726
Nigga that's still a cock.
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>>587052727
That's it, I'm rolling
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>>587052726
This is not safe
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>>587052681
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>>587052681
thank God I live in an actual first world country
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>>587052676
I mean he has to be. It's part and parcel of doing so.
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>>587052726
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>>587051303
>still refers to her husband as sensei
>refers to her child as "little misono", implying she never took sensei's last name
this is inadvertently very cuck coded even though I think that was the last thing the artist intended
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>>587052726
This is safe
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>>587052681
lack of diversity
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>>587052406
Cope harder Otogi tranny
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>>587052860
taking your partner's last name has nothing to do with "cuck" stuff
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>>587052726
dude if you want to get banned at least post cunny and not a dick
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Ka ka ka ka kachi daze
Gun gun gun gun gun wo muki
Jan jan byan byan kyuukyoku no batoru
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>still going
KWAB
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It's November.
(You) should start being thankful..
NOW
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Why are you so upset lil monkey
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>>587052985
Kys faggot
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>>587045862
bro your shun?
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>>587053019
because Blue Archive exists
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test
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>>587052634
Herself for the sake of some retarded greater good she's barely a part of and a sense of guilt after vol 2
What Midori means to Momoi and what she's willing to give up for her is up to her and her alone. Familial bonds almost don't exist in the setting, and are far more important than the personal philosophy of some fat autistic retard
They are not the same
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test
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icles :D
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>>587053108
Omg traitor hi!
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Uh oh pagpag melty. Go back to eating trash will you
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>>587052858
Where is Dio's halo?
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>>587053019
This raid and the filter have done irreversible damage to his psyche, please understand
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>>587053136
goalpost successfully shifted
>>587052381
>A shut-in with no connection to anyone sacrificing other people for the "greater good"
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>>587053164
got one
check the full filename, faggot
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>>587048876
>Momoi's proposal is one "pod". How big is the pod? It can only save 1 person? Where's everyone else? Etc
Again, this is not different to VF. If you have a problem with this you should have been getting in a tantrum over VF and whining about "What if Sensei stood REALLY close to Kuroko?" "Is there a way to get more teleporter charges" "Why can't the eagles fly Sensei back to Kivotos?".

Momoi floated a hypothetical. Trying to apply wordplay to it when she is the one answering it, ergo has complete knowledge of what the question entails and can answer your hypotheticals in a way that will preserve it if Midori was retarded enough to act like you are, is either crippling autism or even worse, pointless pedantry to try and reframe something in a way that disingenuously allows you to frame it as anything different from VF just so you can argue over it.

All this over a few lines of dialogue showing Momoi as a responsible older sister if she's ever actually pushed to her limit.
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>>587052756
Because potential doesn't mean a whole lot when the story didn't establish how Sensei could reach that potential. Likewise, you have the potential to not be a retard but you keep acting like one. Gottem.
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>>587053167
Try harder lilttle faggot
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>>587053234
that's entrapment!
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Is there a demand for Karen fes?
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Omg Shuro hi!
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yes you guys are definitely fighting
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Lil pagpag is trying way too hard
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>>587053251
Exactly? How are you able to recognize that there's an issue of them not actually establishing shit, but then bringing it up to justify other shit? You can't be this obtuse.
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>>587053390
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>>587053412
say the erp traitor
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>>587053384
My dick demands it.
And fes = strong kit, so double demand.
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>>587053235
>you have a problem with this you should have been getting in a tantrum over VF and whining about "What if Sensei stood REALLY close to Kuroko?" "Is there a way to get more teleporter charges" "Why can't the eagles fly Sensei back to Kivotos?".
No????
It's made explicitly clear it's one teleportation per person and shown as well. We don't need to further examine this, but if you look to other media or theories of spacial transfer you should be able to figure out why teleporting multiple people with one teleportation can be a problem.
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You retards deserve the picklenuke
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>>587053224
Nothing was moved retard
Rio was trying to sacrifice Arisu, and then shifted that to herself, all for the "greater good"
A sibling bond built up over the course of their entire lives, is the sort of thing actually worth that sort of drastic action
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Is this all you got, erp traitor?
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I have the potential to become the best esports gamer ever in the world. I totally wouldn't lose to professional gamers in a game I never bothered to learn.
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he'll never recover after that incident lmao
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Sensei can be a woman!
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Let's turn this thread into a Hot Spring.
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>>587053538
>Nothing was moved retard
>>587053224
>>A shut-in with no connection to anyone sacrificing other people for the "greater good"
>>587053136
>Herself for the sake of some retarded greater good she's barely a part of and a sense of guilt after vol 2
You tried to say Rio never tried to sacrifice herself, and then when this is pointed out as wrong you change to she did try but it wasn't as deep, as if someone willing to die to save another person (not family) is lesser than someone willing to die to save another person (family), retard.
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uoh melty
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>>587053435
her hand is bigger than her face
you know what that means
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>>587053556
One of the "discussion" autists once argued that Noa should be able to perform pro-athlete feats because she can remember what the movements look like after watching highlight clips
Some people are genuinely stupid
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>>587053610
Player Killing?
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>>587053594
Many are supporting this
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@Chise stop them
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is gelbooru always slow to update new stuffs? danbooru is much faster i think
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>>587053619
>>587053628
Hello little traitors! I thought you fags claim to hate this shithole so why come here and bitching about me?
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>>587053693
gelbooru just takes from danbooru doesn’t it?
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>>587053693
Yes gelbooru is always slower
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>>587053631
my school used to do that joke too but none of us knew you were supposed to hit the face of the person you're pranking so we'd just tell people to put their hand on their faces for no reason
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assdevs won
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>>587053619
>>587053628
Now kiss!
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>thought the world involve around him
Schizophrenia as well, you really should eat less trash
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>>587053415
Projection much? I'm the one who didn't use something not established in my argument. I am basing my story expectations on the actual established limits of the Shittim Chest instead of a vague statement about a potential that Sensei never learned how to utilize.
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> Convert file name to sha-256
> Free (YOU)
Is it that easy?
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>>587053693
I don't like their filenames
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>>587053832
>world involve around
MIDORI, GET THIS NIGGA
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>>587053832
Say the ass muncher.
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>>587053813
FUCK I got robbed
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@OtherBakers
Remember to bake Iori Birthday thread after this
Good night /bag/
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> Convert file name to sha
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you niggas just need to get laid fr
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>>587053605
You're trying to tell me what the crux of my argument was for me, that's not how this works
The issue is that Rio is doing all her sacrificing for shitty reasons. She was functionally an outlier that isn't a part of polite society, and nothing changed when she left
Momoi is considering doing so for a massively-important, personal bond whose value she is uniquely positioned to have the final say on
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>>587053839
And my point has always been that they decided to bring up that as a possibility, shut it down without explaining why it wasn't possible, brought up a heretofore completely not mentioned extra possibility, followed through on it, did not question it whatsoever, etc. Shit we could also bring up "Aris is able to reform matter to supposedly no limits" and how they try to both say "The 3 brats are just machines, not living" but also "you can't fix machines, because machines don't have mystic".

It's sloppy, and they could have done better in theory, but that year they had a buch of extreme changes so I can't say I'm surprised just disappointed that there are so many questions you can ask that the characters conveniently never bother to. They don't even recover the bodies, let alone perform any checks on them after the battle is over.
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>>587054032
himo pantsu doko?
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What a beautiful Duwang.
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>>587054012
If you think Rio sacrificing herself for someone she doesn't necessarily have a connection to, and you're basically shitting on it, would you also shit on Sensei's character? Sensei who has said he would always try to sacrifice himself for any child in front of him, even if he doesn't actually know them and the child hates him (Shuro)
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>>587054089
>*chew*
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Sha isn't real
Big Rena isn't real
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the schools need to go to war with each other diplomacy failed
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give me your rarest gookako
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>>587053908
All you have to do is repost an image and retards will conspiracy corkboard that you're the same person who has posted it ever single time for the past 5 years
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>>587053908
omg Junko hi!
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>>587053661
If Taskmaster can do it, so can she, Spiderman...oh wait Shimiko already did the gimmick of watching tapes to learn superfast
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>>587053908
They're just that mindbroken, lol
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>>587054176
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>>587053908
posting bad takes are easier
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>>587054274
no it's not
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>>587054271
>Sloppako
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>>587053496
>It's made explicitly clear it's one teleportation per person and shown as well.
Momoi makes it explicitly clear she's talking about a scenario that can only save one person too.
I don't know what level of braindamage you need to think that's open for interpretation.

Sensei also attempts to sacrifice himself in scenarios outside of that one, often ones that are life threatening to himself but absolutely inconsequential to students.
Collapsing buildings won't do Mika any harm but he throws his body over his students in Tea Party Summer. Ghosts probably aren't going to do Shuro much harm but he attempts to save her from them.
This isn't an inconsistency with BA's message or tone.
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>>587053886
Sauce?
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>>587054176
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Going through Ichika's momos, just the first few so far
Is this girl actually depressed? She doesn't seem to enjoy anything at all and just hides behind a smile and a laugh. She has all these activities and none of them excite her.
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>>587054343
>Momoi makes it explicitly clear she's talking about a scenario that can only save one person too.
>I don't know what level of braindamage you need to think that's open for interpretation.
You...
Are you fucking for real?

>Rio: here's the trolley problem, it's a hypothetical, but you have only 2 choices
>Sensei: this is stupid, why would you only have 2 choices?
>Momoi: here's my hypothetical sacrificial situation, where you only have 2 choices

It's absolutely inconsistent. Are you joking? Momoi even points out how it's a problematic way of thinking, but you're going to reply to me telling me that it's actually different. This hypothetical argument is about 1 versus many, not 1 versus 1, so Sensei's argument that it doesn't inherently make sense no longer applies
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>>587054101
>bootleg peroro merch
@Valkyrie @GSC @Schale DO SOMETHING!!
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>>587054392
yes

it's why Kasumi directly identifies with her
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I don't know why you're all expecting consistency from the writers when every event and event story are written by different people.
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>>587054392
its your job to do something about it
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>>587054113
It's almost as though context changes things
Society functions because the older generation looks out for the younger one. Back in glorious nippon (or korea?) i doubt he was patrolling the neighborhoods around elementary schools with a baseball bat looking for predators, because things were functioning well enough
Then he gets isekai'd to a world where unsupervised young'uns are spiraling towards actual doom and/or just generally being shit towards each other, and he's the only adult around with any sense. And hey look at that, he leverages his connections for help when things are dicey instead of just going at it alone like a retard
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>>587054570
Because they actually ARE rather consistent on theme and they even directly reference earlier stories to support points, mostly to success. The stumbles (as I see them, and I do confidently believe they're stumbles) make it feel painful. I also just really hate stories that FORCE a bad ending, without earning it, which I really feel volume ex did not earn it.

Shit they only needed 1 or 2 sentences to justify everything but they seemed committed to this kinda idea of how there are some things you can't change, perplexingly referring to v1c3 which is about the PAST (a literally unchangeable thing) not the unformed and (as Sensei puts it) infinite possibilities future.
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Thank you for your interest in the position of Associate /bag/ shitposter. Unfortunately,
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are >we lucky Nexon didn't become the well known stingy corpo whose management make videogames look like EA tier
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>>587054817
I love Anime Hina thick thighs
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>>587054485
>i just saw some siblings die for each other
>i don't intend to ever get in a situation like that, i've proven repeatedly i'm not stupid enough to not ask for help or consider other options
>but if it came down to it, Midori is important enough to me that i'd do the same
What exactly is the problem here?
It's an expression of love
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>>587054872
>EA tier
Chat, does he know?
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FUCK YOU SEIALETTUCE
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>>587054872
They will keep betraying and letting me down. If it's not Nexon next time, it will be Chobrah.
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>>587054872
he said, moments before the thing in question happened
we're frogs
the boiling has slowly begun to cook us
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https://x.com/SCHALESTORE/status/2118253014566015333/en

Anyone here ever ordered stuff from SCHALESTORE? This jacket is fucking sick but idk how annoying it is to order in burgerland.
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>>587055030
Who's Chobrah?
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We do not purchase subtle anime clothes here
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>>587055104
You will need to find a middleman to handle gook stuff for that since they probably don't do overseas shipping.
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chat, I think we might be cooked
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>>587055140
not really subtle plus it would piss off the ev*ngelical filth that permeates the US
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We lost another artfag...
https://x.com/studioflagro/status/2118663292315156504
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>>587045174
I do this.
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>>587054958
The problem is still that the question and premise are stupid and no matter how much sappy bullshit layers a writer wants to put on top of it, I can see past all of them to the core that "this is dumb". Momoi saying "I'd do the same" is to justify the 3 brats killing themselves, but the 3 brats killing themselves was never actually established as an ultimatum.
I don't want to keep the discussion going on and on, I'll just allude to 3 issues: 1 the ritual is out of nowhere and reversing it isn't actually set up or explained in depth enough to be something I can personally accept as valid as a reader, the story uses incorrect lessons from previous stories to try to say that some things can't change when the point of the previous stories was not "you can't do anything" it was "you can't do anything about past events" (and also, really clumsily steps over Malkuth's mourning using that idea as justification which really fucking reeks), and finally "the characters repeatedly insist on being non-living beings, different from everyone else, but in the final hour they are said to be the same as Sensei, a living being, because both Sensei and they lack mystic, but they conveniently suddenly ignore the 'They are not organic and we genuinely do not know if you can repair them and recover their data' part".
Thing is there's actually even more, there's loads of issues and them trying to justify it because Momoi would do it too, while not explaining anything, while having a foundational plot point TO this story be "if you don't know for sure, don't commit to actions. Try to find help" it's all so fucking messy
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>>587055305
Prove it
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chat are we cooked or just french fried?
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>>587055235
What the fuck is the point of having the gooks as an american vassal state if we can't get their merch easily

>>587055140
I already own and regularly wear a sugar rush t because it's a sick design. Cool is cool.

>>587055263
The catholic implications are part of why I want it, although I'd prefer if it didn't say Trinity on the back and rather just on the front; the logo stands on its own really.
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>>587055236
Hard to believe it's the same artist
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>>587054485
>>587055354
nta but i always saw v-ex as the final maturation of v2's story, there's a throughline here that makes both logical and emotional sense for a narrative. in your scenario it would be
>here's the trolley problem
>that's stupid
>here's a similar situation but you are pushed past the breaking point
>yeah ok i've matured as a person and realize you have a point
i think it's fine to dislike it as it kinda pulls a "haha not really" on some of the themes of blue archive, but i don't think it's tonally inconsistent or an asspull. all it's doing is taking a moral problem and seeing how far you have to go before you break. fwiw i'm not the biggest fan of it either but i wouldn't call it bad or stupid, just different.
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>>587055445
this Reisa is not organic
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>>587055295
>nemoga is gone
Alright maybe it is time to leave buruaka...
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>>587055295
we knew about nemoga leaving for like 2 years at this point.
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I'd grind my cock on Reisa's abs.
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nemoga quit like a year ago, retard.
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>>587055295
>>587055530
This is the same retard.
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who
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>>587046946
It's ultimately not Momoi folding on her ideals, she's a mouthpiece for the game itself folding on its ideals
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all me
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>>587055354
It's not a justification for killing the decabrats though. The story even frames them dying as a bad thing, preventable the whole way if not for stubbornness and stupidity
It's Momoi reflecting on her bond with her sister after seeing something fucked up
I can guarantee you Nozomi or Shun would absolutely think the same thing if someone floated the hypothetical. Though they'd probably be irritated at whoever brought that up over lunch
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where's the summary?
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Nemoga is in C109 doing BA fanart though.
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>>587055263
>the ev*ngelical filth that permeates the US
I highly doubt they would get pissed off, those types wear the trashiest Christian clothing anyways. They probably think it’s quite nice and holy.
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This entire conversation will be irrelevant as soon as they bring the decas. You're retarded if you think they won't. Kim has even hinted at it.
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>>587055523
What does that mean
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>>587055104
I bought the Natsu jacket from it and it arrived without issue, shipping was expensive through
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Except for Yume, Yume should stay dead.
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>>587055690
>bring the decas
bring the decas back*
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>>587055295
Thanks for giving birth to Aoba and S.Fubuki...
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Bruh i'd fucking kill for my sister, ideals and jailtime be damned
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>>587055729
Gay steroids made her look like a baki character
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>>587055729
it insists upon itself
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>>587055737
They had a natsu jacket? Shit, tough luck that I missed that. I have a jacket collecting problem. But if it just went straight to your house without any trouble I don't mind the shipping cost, I buy stuff from the far east often enough that I'm used to it.
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Did I miss anything interesting from the stream
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>stabbing Malkuth with the swords of sacrifice let Decagrammaton take over her body(Malkuth is the sacrifice)
>taking out the swords of sacrifice separated Decagrammaton from Malkuth's body
>3 brats keel over after this action
Noooo don't leave me with just context clues. I need everything spelled out directly for me. The name swords of sacrifice surely doesn't mean something related to the ritual.
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>>587055895
they announced there will be game
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>>587055980
Nozomi's milkers... I need them...
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>>587055637
I just think it's bad, and very "fiction", shit to even bring up or anything.

I said it before but I still think World Trigger (and Blue Archive, v1c3) brought up the better lesson. That you can't think about sacrificing yourself because you care that much, you should think about how absolutely fucked up it will be if you kill yourself saving somebody else. Reminds me of Big Hero 6, an abysmal movie premised on the protagonist's completely retarded brother going into a fire before the fire department has arrived, no training, to try to save someone. And he dies. OHH BUT HE WAS SO HEROIC, ugh, it's actually an actively detrimental dogma to give any amount of attention.

You die, and you leave everyone who loved you hurting from your death, and you are now unable to ever help them again.
Hoshino vowing to not kill herself in a sacrifice, and instead push herself to save her friends and rely on them too, is an infinitely more powerful and worthwhile message (and it's the same as World Trigger: small fuckin moment and not even concerning the protagonist, but it really sorta just peeled back years and years of self sacrifice in media to the cold reality that a father dying to save someone else leaves a family without a father, and untold numbers of other people never ever able to be helped. There's a reason rescue workers class certain situations as "don't even try", because they are valuable and dying won't actually help)
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https://x.com/_mh2en/status/2119055974560563492
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you guys told me kei was fotm?
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sacrifice THIS *unzips dick*
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https://x.com/kyua_kushikatsu/status/2119022050899607940
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>>587055915
>I need everything spelled out directly for me.
Kind reminder that 56% of sixth graders in the US have a hard time with basic reading.
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>>587055690
I think they will, but also am annoyed that nothing in game actually hints at it, and I'm still salty about it. They had better do something fucking incredible if they're actually going to bring them back
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>>587055915
Why are clankers always so fucking stupid?
Stop killing yourselves you morons, we can coexist or you can just secretly perfect space travel and leave us to die on our rock
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>>587055692
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>>587056061
thought this guy was dead
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>>587055915
>>587056112
OK now explain why a robotic body cannot be repaired
I'll even allow you to ignore that earlier in your story, a machine was repaired using one of the character's abilities (Abi Eshuh, but Aris). Yes, Abi Eshuh and the decas are functionally equivalent. The narrative never says the brats are "special" (the exact opposite: they're programmed, not-living, robots)
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Post an image that makes you think "holy shit, that's nuts"
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>>587056087
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>>587055741
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>>587056238
Go read what Sof has to say after we destroy the original Tiphareth you fucking retard.
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>>587056341
We literally saw her ghost, telling Hoshino to let go.
What, you want the dev to rip her soul back to Kivotos or something?
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>>587055937
Iori... gomen...
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>>587056453
Calm the fuck down.

>We can repair it but it won't be the same Tiphareth
OK, where in this does it say we can't repair it at all? Sure, they "die", but you do remember that they'd only been "alive" for a few days, right? Are you saying that the potentially endless amount of days they could experience repaired and alive again is worth nothing to the <3 days they experienced while preparing for Malkuth's birth and confronting the protagonists?
I'm asking you, don't fucking flip out out of nowhere. Please actually read that and tell me what you think.
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I like to scroll down pictures of students so you can't see their full faces, only the smile, it's more erotic that way
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>>587056453
To add onto this, their data is lost. You literally see their data cores crack.
Toki's suit is made with the nameless gods tech unlike the decabrats.
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>>587056051
You are doing what Rio did and taking the trolly problem as literal and absolute instead of a thought experiment. A very bad hypothetical is making someone mull over what they truly value or believe in
It's is not advocating you do the dumb thing in question, and the triplets dying was straight up a bad thing in story
Malkuth is even grieving, the story is explicitly agreeing with your examples and painting it as a shitty thing that only hurt their loved one
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>>587056504
i watched godzilla minus zero yesterday
shit was peak
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>Nyoooo why are we hecking dying
Lol.
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>>587056453
>>587056595
they also do, in fact, repair tiphareth
I've seen this argument before and it always ignores that they did actually fix tiphareth. Sof was mad but they still did it
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>>587054392
Possibly. She's too perfect so nothing challenges her, it's like thing they say about depressed rich people, money doesn't buy happiness or that episode of SpongeBob where Squidward joins the perfect closed community
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>>587056609
this Sensei knows what's good
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>>587056621
You would be essentially creating new decabrats by recycling their bodies.
The originals would remain dead since their data is gone.
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>>587056621
What

it's the complete fucking opposite?
I am literally saying "never see this as X amount must die to save Y amount, see it instead as nobody has to die"

Anyway my point is Momoi bringing up her story does actually advocate it, and also the ED song trying to make you think back on things similar to PSensei's sacrifice (an EXTREMELY different case). Yeah, they say "this is a bad thing", but also they try to justify it.
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>>587055971
Zamn...............
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>>587056738
Things come strangely easier to her but it doesn't feel like that's the locus of her depression really. You can tell the difference from her default momos and her swimsuit momos - in the swimsuit momos it's not just her own activities, but even the joy most people have with visiting the beach is just meaningless to her, it's just another day. So I think it'd be a mistake to say that her depression arises from feeling unchallenged, principally.
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>>587056780
meant for
>>587056595
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Hina touhouina
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>>587056595
>>587056780
worth mentioning that Tiphareth was fucking ancient, which was particularly what made Sof angry. It had many memories that were all lost

also it never actually states that the brats are "the same" as tiphareth, btw. Data recovery uhh...is a thing. Tiphareth is a being imbued with mystic. We are never clearly explained how the brats actually work. Their cores are NEVER mentioned in the text, and saying "the illustration showed it" isn't true. We don't know their anatomy, we have no idea what we're seeing, all we know is that the big robots have mystic, the brats don't, and that the brats were created and programmed (not imbued with "souls")
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>>587056780
I got into an argument with someone who claimed that since senseis are identical across dimensions, it wasn't actually NTR to have a different you come in and fuck all your students while you sit in the chair
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>>587045174
ultra rare thread
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>>587057013
Plana and Kuroko are ours anyway, p sensei is already died
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requesting lana del rey bread
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>>587056851
The base momos are about her being unchallenged but I haven't read the swimsuit version yet. She wants the struggle of learning a skill which always comes naturally but im not sure how it is expanded with visiting the beach. I'll do that later today actually I feel inspired
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>>587057196
They are still technically "used goods"
A gookakoChad told me so
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>>587056238
The story didn't specify that their bodies cannot be repaired. It did mention that the original Tiphy died because its data could not be fully recovered. The same story that showed the 3 crying because they thought that they completely destroyed Malkuth's data, history, records, and memories by performing the ritual. Surely you can connect the dots right? Can you please tell the class on what is the price paid with the sacrifice? Repairing the body with the same programming makes it not them anymore based on the presented logic of the story by the way(see Tiphy).
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Skimming this thread has first and foremost reminded me that I would absolutely stick it inside of Decagrammaton (forma de Malkuth).
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>>587056780
>we have cloned the man who killed your mother and given him all the same memories of doing so, now HATE him
>he didn't kill my mom though, you executed that guy
>yes but he's functionally the same
>no he's a separate blob of meat who never laid a finger on my mom or me
>but it's the same thing!
I had this back and forth in a v thread a few years back. Some folks are just very literal minded about these things. Very practical in a sense, all about the immediate result and not big on the details and nuance
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You're a newfag if you don't remember how much this impacted /bag/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZCBPxk36QE
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I thought we're all skipchads here?
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ouch owie stop punching me
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another irohafes could be it
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I admit it, I'm a newfag
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>>587057412
Students that would be crushed?
Students that would crush others?
Students that would scale building facades to escape?
Students that would arrive on scene to defuse the situation?
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>>587057308
>if a person has amnesia after you revive them, you should not attempt to revive them
No character tries to revive them other than Aris (specifically with magic, which is strangely explained as impossible? If you can change matter however you wish, and their memories are attributed purely to programming and physical existence (not mystic), where is the logic that you can't repair their bodies and physically recover the missing data which is 100% tied to nothing magical--not a soul, not mystic, just data? Why is data recovery impossible? Does the story actually explain it?)
No character checks the bodies
No character brings the bodies with them
No character *thinks* about trying to do anything for them (again other than Aris)

So basically we have this situation where we have 3 computers. Computers, need I remind you, are not magic. A computer's data is not left on something called "mystic". You can recover data on a machine. If it's broken beyond repair, you can't. But, in this story, you have a character who actually CAN fix (and has been shown to fix) machines.

You are saying:
- they are ONLY machines, no magic involved
- they have no souls
- they have no mystic
- they run on physical hardware with nothing "special" about them
- you can repair and rearrange all matter
- you can't fix them with the previous ability (???)

You say "See Tiphy"
Tiphy is mystic.
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>>587056990
Prophet Cores are portrayed as complete black box processing units that contain the logic, programming, and identity of the entity.
The orange gems on the decacunnies and Malkuth behave in the same way afaik.
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>>587057412
this incident made me install nikke for a day or two
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I'm scared
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>>587055895
>>587055971
>>587056847
debu
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>>587057361
Killing the clone of a bad guy with memories of the bad guy is practical because even though he's not literally the same person, he is the exact same kind of person. Bringing back the exact same kind of person as the one that died that you liked on the other hand is not practical, it's creepy.
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>>587056784
is cute foxgirl spit sanitary?
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>>587057653
yeah and the decabrats are not prophets
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>>587057689
its a delicacy
look up civet coffee
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>>587057412
>faggy avatar
Holy shit dude I'm not watching this
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>>587056051
It's more than that, when you're a person who accepts the thought process of "kill the few to save the many" you get lazy and you stop seeking ways to save everyone. Rio's every choice was "x needs to die to save y". Eventually you end up just like kiritsugu, you end up killing and killing when you never needed to do it 99% of the time.

The moral of volume 2 is that the trolley problem is a stupid forced binary so you could arrogantly delude yourself that there are only two choices so you can call yourself a good person for choosing the lesser option. On reality there were never two choices but you blinded yourself to the reality of it because you wanted to be pragmatic, you ultimately wanted an easy answer that allowed you to sacrifice something because you saw it as easier. But reality isn't like that, there is no forced binary, and there's a thousand solutions you didn't want to consider because they either involved you losing a bit of ego or it involved reaching out for help. You only saw two choices but if you had other people helping you, they could easily see a hundred more choices you never saw. You saw yourself as a god who thought that you knew the future and were making the smartest choice to help others but in reality everyone else could see plenty of choices that don't require self sacrifice or death.

Blue archives biggest message is why thinking like this is bad, and why trying to find another way and not being held down by a false binary where they tell you how to think is good, you have to find another way where you can save everyone. This was meant to be a happy end story where you can save everyone and the second you contradict that message it opens the story up to everyone dying. Ever since volume 1 Ch3 weve had six other characters die so far all because Issakusan opened the gate. You either save everyone, or you become just another generic story where everyone and anyone can die.
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>>587057762
i don't like breasts
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>>587057849
said no one ever
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i don't like cocks
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>>587057787
Inb4 "but isn't death good? It's more realistic"
Blue archive was never meant to be realistic, it was meant to be quite unrealistic. It was a story where miracles and magic at the end of the day can always save anyone. Old dev interviews always said no one would die on this game, Kim was adamant death had no place in this game.
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>>587057686
It was more about the personal wrongings that are only attributable to actually doing them
I don't know how anyone who values their cherished memories would be alright with a "functionally identical" copy who wasn't actually there to experience it all with you. They weren't a part of those memories
Clone fiction explores this all the time from the other side usually. A head full of memories that don't belong to you but at the same time are guiding how you operate. Angst and then the eventual payoff where they start to find themselves and achieve peace
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>>587057952
You lost
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>>587057786
Government negligence caused a fatal Halloween crowd crush in Seoul. They ordered all the activities to stop for a week including Gachas. BA was beginning their acceleration then gets stopped to a halt because of this incident and never attempted again
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>trinity students get GEHENNA'ED
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>>587057952
Kim is still here though?
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>>587057849
same
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>>587057905
/bag/ is full of lolicons
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I like breasts
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I like breasts (flat)
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>>587058130
Big Chise...
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>>587058090
Artist source on this Muchiki?
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>>587057634
Lots of headcanon there, bub. Memory data is treated as their equivalent of a human soul if it's not obvious enough. It applies to all the clankers in the story whether they have mystic ot not based on Sof's statement. Reconstructing completely wiped data(as implied by the sacrifice) is the same as just making copies which the story reiterates several times as not them anymore.
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>>587058569
Bottom right, anon.
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please nexon do another wildhunt event, i need more art hoes
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Who won?
Who lost?
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>>587058657
Black tape alts
Do it nexon
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>>587058049
I'm aware of what happened, I just thought the youtuber has horrible presentation. Looks like an unholy cross between funko pops and Binding of Isaac.
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>>587058698
Iroha
Iroha
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yeah I'm thinking Miyako won
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>>587058698
YOU DECIDE
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very cute
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>>587058569
this is why people make fun of gamers who play gacha
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>>587058624
No, fuck off, "headcanon"
my friend you CANNOT USE TIPHARETH as a point of comparison.
You can't!! They are fundamentally different and they REPEATEDLY emphasize this!!

And if data is as they, THEY explain it, again THEY tell you this: all programmed, physical, and this is NOT headcanon fuck dude they genuinely bring up "well they're not mystic so you can't" but if they aren't mystic why do the rules of basic physics and computer technology suddenly not apply?
Forget "headcanon", where's your explanation that the data is fully not recoverable in a way that makes fucking sense? The way THEY explain it is "no mystic so you can't", but since when the fuck did you need magical essence to fix a machine? And to recover its data. I repeat, WHAT HEADCANON Aris literally is shown and told to be capable of rearranging matter as she wishes, and able to effectively do anything

You just ignored everything I said and went
"well, they can't reconstruct it because it wipes the data"
but the data is not tied to magic. If you can fix it, and all of their "being" is literal code, you can reconstruct everything including their memories. That's not headcanon, dude, that's genuinely how things work in reality (and in the game, that they fucking show! it's insane)
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Ayane should have stayed president on the simple basis that she farmed the most aura
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>>587058839
Winners look like that?
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I hate breasts
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bake iori bread
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>bruh don't throw a fit
>throws a fit himself
As yes, the pseud special
Also not that guy so don't throw a fit at the wrong person
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>>587059043
I like black bread
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Just go to the teleporter goy. It will reconstruct everything about you, from your body, personality, and memories but in another location. You are just a collection of particles in a specific arrangement anyway. Don't worry about silly things about your current consciousness shutting down forever. Another one that is functionally the same as you will exist and that is all that matters.
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>>587058624
>headcanon

No souls/mystic is mentioned quite a lot, like nearly every time the 3 brats appear, and "it's all programming" is said during some of their last moments. So, at least in that post, it's all based on what was said in the game. They point out themselves that they lack mystic, and are not alive, but then they say later that because of a lack of mystic they can't be revived, but machines and computers do not require "magic" to function or be recovered--including data ("memories")
Tiphareth is different. A living being which has ascended beyond its programming, blessed with mystic. Being unable to recover THAT data thus actually can logically make sense, as magic has entered the equation.
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>>587059076
thighs too fat
literally yuuka tier
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>>587058843
how to get a nozomi wife?
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>>587059136
Mystic is not the soul. Mystic is just a quality of something linked to divinity. Sensei just like the engineers can't be affected by Aris' special powers because it can only affect those with mystic. The story only equates their programming to human genes(chapter 3 episode 14). Their memory data is treated as something separate and the term life essence is why I equated them to human souls. "Magic" is involved in the destruction of their data because its from the reversal of the ritual. Writing and placing specific bits into a blank memory storage that was magically wiped is still functionally the same as making a copy that is not them anymore.
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>>587061362
>Sensei just like the engineers can't be affected by Aris' special powers because it can only affect those with mystic
nah, Aris fixes a machine with that power, and because that machine is also (like Sensei isn't, but the deca brats are) not a living thing, there is nothing that logically remains sound as to why her powers can't work on them.

>Their memory data is treated as something separate and the term life essence is why I equated them to human souls.
And it shouldn't be, because that doesn't make sense. You can't say "it's all programming" and then say "actually, it's the same as living things" after *insisting* that it is not the same as living things, and not soul or mystic.

>Writing and placing specific bits into a blank memory storage that was magically wiped is still functionally the same as making a copy that is not them anymore.
Actually no, and do note the game never makes this argument.
Sof's issue with the loss of Tiphareth was the loss of data. They never say "if Tiphareth revived with the data, it would not be Tiphareth" if anything Sof's argument indicates "if we could recover the data, we would have"
But again, Tiphareth is a different sort of being, so should genuinely not enter the conversation. We legitimately do not know how it or the other big robots work, but we are explicitly told that the brats are NOT special.

Therefore, we have the pieces in place to take the data, recover it via the ability to rearrange and repair matter, and be given the exact same brats with the same memories. Their memories are only programming after all. Sensei equates them, but since when was Sensei an expert on machines? He's genuinely wrong. We humans don't understand the stuff of life, we don't actually really understand how "data" is stored in our brains, only knowing that "it's in there somewhere" which is how you get the concept of a soul. Machines are not the same. Contrary to humans, everything about them is understood in hard schematics
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>>587061928
I was talking about the power that was talked about the soft voice which is different from Material Reconstruction. Aris fixing and reconstructing Abi-Eshuh does not imply that she can recover memory data as that machine wasn't specified to contain memory data. If we are bringing real life computer concepts, there is a concept called volatile memory which is unrecoverable once a machine is turned off. Aris can reconstruct their physical DRAM but the specific electrical states holding their memory are completely gone since they got turned off. Programming is a different thing from memory by the way.
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