Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!/sthg/ #9719 - Transparency Edition==NEWS==>Discord server launched 5 October 2026discord.gg/SonicOfficial>SONIC PICO PARK on 12 November 2026https://picoparkgame.com/spp/>Sonic the Hedgehog: Memories and Beyond on 12 November 2026https://youtu.be/gg33XSAtdZM>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversaryhttps://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 on 19 March 2027https://x.com/SonicMovie>Netflix animated series for preschoolers with attitude in productionhttps://variety.com/2026/film/news/crazy-taxi-movie-netflix-sega-sonic-stranger-than-heaven-1236861148/==COMICS==Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #4 - 11 November 2026Sonic and the Blade of Courage #18 - November 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #92 - 9 December 2026==OTHER==>Linkshttps://rentry.org/sthglinks>SAGEhttps://sagexpo.org/>SHChttps://shc.zone/>#10000 Projecthttps://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ruPrevious Zone: >>587054241
tomorrow
cnc!!
classic goodadventure goodboost bad
amy should be chunky!
>>587096726trvke
Bat and boy.
>>587096726what's the appeal of shadamy if amy never has a crush on sonic anymore? we all know shadamy only exists for cuckold ntr fantasy
Ok enoughTell us something you're proud about from the franchise
>>587096762We have enough fat chicks on Earth, we don't need fat chicks on Mobius.>>587096920Bad boy + girl next door is a tale as old as time, idiot.
>>587096737
Wait a minute....if Rumble is just Eggman playing with toys, where did the Mephiles figure come from? He was erased from the timeline!
>>587096961The character design.
>>587097051
>>587096961Sonic taught me to trust my feelings and to live and learn.
>>587096961It continues to reinvent itself so oldfags can do nothing but cry about new fans and sonic team ruining what they had
>>587096961the musicthe pussiesthe saiyan hogs
>>587096961Music + Visuals + Waifus
>>587096881Is THIS more IC...
>>587097234
>Sonic travels to an alternate dimension >He somehow finds all his friends and enemies are in this dimension, but have different identities because they lived lives without him>they also have problems they are struggling to work through>This doesn't stop Sonic from still seeing them as his main universe friends so he reconnects with them by helping them with their problems>Adventure ends with Sonic basically destroying their universe, but it's okay because there is a lesson about moving on.
>AI slop
>>587097342
>>587097358...or THIS?
>>587097427
>>587097546
>>587097342So that's where this came from
I knew I was autistic when I would get a warm and comfy feeling in my face and chest when I looked at cute pics of Amy Rose
>>587097641cute! canon, even!!
The Sonic Adventure series hasn't ended, Sonic Heroes is its own, new franchise
>>587096754Sonic Team doesn't see the difference between Adventure and Boost.
>>587097427>>587097641
>>587097851And they're clearly wrong.
>>587097947shut up
Sally, Espio, and Tails do this to Sonic in Archie.
>>587097847It's been twenty years. If they haven't done it by now, they won't do it ever unless they need money really bad
>>587098067Amy would never do or say that. It's just some shadow fangirl projecting herself onto Amy instead.
>>587097947>>587098358yes she would lol
>>587098358shut up
>>587097847Genuine question, why do you think ST put Heroes in the Dreamcast Era, and 06 in the Modern era for Generations?
>>587098587Iizuka was sick when they ruled on that decision, clearly.
>>587098587Because the game's director needed to split the stages into groups of 3 separated by bosses for game design reasons. When Kishimoto explained the way he groups generations, which is what Iizuka has repeated in recent interviews, people on Twitter asked him why he didn't use the "eras" seen in Sonic Generations trailers and he responded that he didn't know about it and that other directors may have had different views in the past. Generations is the only Sonic game by that director and I don't think he's even at SEGA anymore, and there is no indication in-game that those 3 groups are meant to be eras, only some trailers say that.
Firepower
>>587098786>Sonic Expo is filled with alphabet crowd types>A lot of people who go to Sonic Expo are also Archie glazers>Archie glazers hate the in-game characterizations and want to replace them with the Archie characterizationsI'm beginning to notice a pattern here
any cisgender Amybros that DON'T want to fuck her?
>>587099169Is making her gag on my fat dick considered fucking her?
>>587099058>Sonic Expo is filled with alphabet crowd typesYou say that like the last IDW Whisper/Tangle arc didnt have literal rainbow fag shit in the background
>>587098331https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4Rkjyqq5XI5:21 Someday the Sonic Adventure series will continue!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsGkteHE3jA6:36 Iizuka wants to continue the Sonic Adventure series!...so, if he wants to, why doesn't he? Either he's lying or he doesn't have unlimited power like some anons want to claim when they want to blame him for certain things that are clearly SoA's fault
tails is a fellow shadamychad
>>587099456Iizuka is subjected to the same Sega mandates that Flynn is.
>>587099445I'm aware of the last arc
Got a rough sketch done, look forward to it being completed on white board tomorrow.
>>587098587>>587098851Also, I don't know why this needs to be said, but Heroes isn't and was never going to be a Dreamcast game. Iizuka specifically said it's designed the way it is to be welcoming to owners of other consoles
>>587099610I don't believe that for 1 second. Iizuka is the lead creative officer of Sonic Team and a vice president of Sega. Fi anything, he has to impose the mandates, not SOA
>>587099713holy BIG
>>587067150>>587067538Amy always had Tarot Cards. That is not a change. That was never a change in itself, at all. What changed is the context of Amy's personality around how the cards are used. The entire point is that she is the type of girl who believes in fairy tales and fated love. The fortune telling expresses that concept. Amy uses fortune telling to track Sonic's presence and predict where he will be, because she believes fate draws them together. The Tarot Cards are one medium of that, alongside Amy's intuition that can allow her to literally sense Sonic's presence and track him down like a radar. Amy is mystical, that's her actual special skill, with the hammer just being another subset of that. What changed is that Ian, for example, wants to bring the fortune telling back in focus as a part of her character... but divorced from Amy's LOVE FOR SONIC as the primary context that fuels it. THAT is the problem. The use of Tarot Cards without the context behind its application. Just wanting to highlight all of Amy's other character traits but divorced from the one thing that defines all of it. You cannot have Amy without her love for Sonic. You cannot have Amy without her passion. All of Amy's interests are fueled by passion, and her passion is fueled by Sonic. Her fortune telling and mysticism is intrinsically linked to her passionate love.
>>587098851How does Kishimoto (and Iizuka) group the games?
>>587099058>>587099445
>>587100046Did you really have to use reddit spacing to make sure this took up as much room as possible?
Sonamy is shit
>>587099456He knows the fans want it, so he keeps repeating that. But he will never do it, since continuing something means getting compared to the previous instances. Iizuka knows he, as a producer, can't make something as memorable as the Adventures under Naka. That's why he will never do it, because the last thing he wants is people comparing him to the Naka era, especially because he worked under it and will be under specific criticism.
>>587100295These are actually some pretty good costumes not like those lazy one note ones
No fucking way
>>58710004610/10 you get it.
>>587099880So then how do you explain Sonic Team celebrating their work on Forces for being allowed to write the script in Japan first and having vocal tracks? They specifically complained that SoA didn't allow them to make new vocal tracks in the Generations/Lost World era. SoA has clearly been in charge post-2006 and SoJ has been trying to gain power back>>587100574Maybe there's some truth to this, but Iizuka was the director, which to me seems a more important and influential role for actual game development. Is Iizuka not allowed to direct games? Wouldn't be unprecedented, see Junichi Masuda at Game Freak, everyone blamed him for later games being lacking and accused him of not being able to make games like he used to in the 2000s, but recent leaks revealed he got into arguments with other staff and they eventually banned him from directing, "promoting" him to "higher" marketing positions
>>587099121How much does he know that we don’t…
>>587100139First generation: 2D Classic Sonic (1991 to 1997, continued with Mania, Superstars and will continue to receive games)Second generation: 3D Modern Sonic (literally everything from 1998 to 2017 that isn't marketed as Classic Sonic, continued with Shadow Generations and will continue to receive games)Third generation: Open Zone (confusingly, they also still call this 3D Modern Sonic, so far it only includes Frontiers, but they also said it started in 2020 thanks to the movies, will continue to get games alongside the other two generations)
The more I find out how cursed Sega of America, Sega of Japan, Sonic Team, and Hasbro are, the less of a fuck I give about people shouting at me what's canon and what's not.
>>587102034>HasbroWhat does Hasbro have to do with Sonic?
>>587102330I don't know who owns IDW, gomenasorry...
>>587102545IDW is owned by IDW
>>587096881bat and BoyS!
>>587102636That makes no sense, shut your goofy ass up
>>587100574>But he will never do it, since continuing something means getting compared to the previous instances. Iizuka knows he, as a producer, can't make something as memorable as the Adventures under Naka.Idk feels like fanboy projections.
>>587102781Yeah, I'm not convinced either. This situation is a mystery.
So then, will SA3 be Open Zone?
>>587103278We're going back to Station Square hub worlds baybee!!
>>587102717Hasbro doesn't own IDW, IDW Publishing, the place that makes the comics, is a division Idea and Design Works(IDW), LLC which is an independent comic company.
>>587103478NOTHAT CAN'T BE TRUE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yT9V6toG5bk>>587101125https://x.com/raxoriend/status/2119173464318005528
*headpats your OC*
>>587103278I can't help but wonder what kind of game SA2 would have been if Sega had not been falling apart while it was being made. They had like 1/3 of the team they had for adventure 1, an accelerated production schdule, and reduced funding, all the while being told this was probably their last sonic game. I know they had plans for a third installment and some very early pre-production outlines, but it really doesn't sound like anyone was too optimistic.Anyways, I don't know if SA2's lack of a central hub and linear approach to missions/stages was due to the pressure they were under or if they had originally planned for that. I know about some cut level stuff like the submarine, or how Sonic X included cut dialogue and cutscenes in the show, but I don't recall anything about a station square style hub, unless that's what the chao garden was supposed to serve as.
>>587104354my oc has a very large penis and girls like it alot
>>587100295Leave Silver out of this. His in game character isn't a reflection of the people who use him in order to push their politics
>>587104565Maybe he should've have been such fujobait? You ever think of that, bitch??
>>587104757You mean, shouldn't?
>>587101564>SoA has clearly been in charge post-2006 and SoJ has been trying to gain power backHow does that even happen? I simply feel like Iizuka is weak and doesn't push back against SOA as much as he ought to
Cute n canon!
>>587105132trvke
Sonic needs vore
>>587104354
How often do you play your favorite Sonic game?I play through Adventure and 3&k at least once a year
cute! canon!!
>>587104472he’s very fortunate to be well-endowed and be popular with the ladies>>587105338what kind of horned creature is she?
>>587104471>I know about some cut level stuff like the submarineHuh???
>>587101125>>587104030I almost believed this.Twice
>>587105515>Sonic inherited Amy’s clothes after she died just for him to fulfill his deepest sexual desires with Surge
>>587105046Fixed
>>587104354thank you
>>587105432Not all that often, honestly, but I've played it three times this year for some reason (SA2).
Sonic holding hands with March 7th from hit mobile game Honkai: Star Rail
I am happy Shadow loves Maria, and Maria loves Shadow. It's a bond strong enough that even being separated forever will never break it. Stories need more of this. Not tropey found family stuff, or shallow harem stuff. Just two people who are totally different but still irreversibly and permanently connected at the soul. Even if Shadow were ugly, or Maria were ugly, they would still love each other. It tells you that beauty isn't just on the outside. It tells you that usefulness isn't just about being physically strong. It tells you that a heart capable of love deserves to be loved in return. It tells you that not every story has a happy ending, and sometimes the world is cruel, but that doesn't mean you can't keep standing anyway.
>>587106080Mad cuz bad
For me? It's Shadow learning to love again and Amy learning to love someone who is capable of loving her back.
>This isn’t even the craziest thing Adam drew this weekend.
>>587106418This machine throws moms
>>587106468that's neat you should just like it instead of trying to force it as canon then people would like shadamybros more
Fuck off dogfucker, Shadamy is superior than the dogfucking ship that is Shitria
>>587106494Do tell us more
>>587106289that's neatyou should just like it instead of trying to force it as canonthen people would like shadriabros more
I am happy Master Zik loves Ella, and Ella loves Master Zik. It's a bond strong enough that even being separated forever will never break it. Stories need more of this. Not tropey found family stuff, or shallow harem stuff. Just two people who are totally different but still irreversibly and permanently connected at the soul. Even if Master Zik were ugly, or Ella were ugly, they would still love each other. It tells you that beauty isn't just on the outside. It tells you that usefulness isn't just about being physically strong. It tells you that a heart capable of love deserves to be loved in return. It tells you that not every story has a happy ending, and sometimes the world is cruel, but that doesn't mean you can't keep standing anyway.
>>587106593we don't care about being liked. as long as we are not harassing others like how some other certain shipfags do, we can do however we want
>>587106468Shadow doesn't need to relearn how to love when he already loves. Sonic loves Amy too, he's just not interested in a relationship when adventure exists. Both characters are satisfied with these paths.
She did the same shit last night and will continue policing other ships the rest of the night
>shadow already knows how to love>thats why he should obsess over this dead white girl and never love anyone else
the anon that said shipping is football was right
>>587099058A professional Archie artist literally trooned out. They're all faggots (literal).
>You don't understand, you HAVE to like shadamy. Oh, you don't? But I've been spamming it nonstop for months how is that possible
>>587104956But if there was no pushback then Forces wouldn't have been able to do those things to some extent. It's still clear they had to compromise, Infinite's theme only plays for a few seconds.
>>587107073Kys dogfucker
>be ordered to draw Sonic x Godzilla>push and draw Sonadow anywayAdmitedly it wasn't probably someone from the IDW staff, but still
>>587104471>had like 1/3 of the team they had for adventure 1SA1fags keep using this as a narrative framing device to paint SA2 as a product of limitation and downsizing buy everything Iizuka and thr dev team have said was that working on SA2 was QAY better and smoother than on SA1 and that SA1 was way more a case of too many cooks In the kitchen by comparison.The simple reality is I do not think SA2 was meaningfully harmed by the state of the DC, and the fact SA2B was being made before the DC version even released is evidence of this fact.SA2 is the way it is intentionally not because they "lacked resources to make it more like SA1".
>>587107073I accept your concession.
I like seeing more of Shadow and Maria's life together. Anon was right that they need to be careful about what they add, but I don't mind any of the additions so far. The blanket in the Halloween image reminds me of the one Shadow imagines Maria covering him with in Dark Beginnings.
Zikella... Tanabatakino...
>>587105792Popular myth that still prevades in the fandom.
>>587106768>cries about being attacked>>587106989>proceeds to attackshadamyfags every1
Dogfucking spam hours
>>587107054>a(i-)rtists are faggots (literal)We know
>>587107339you call that attacking? I'll show you how attacking looks likeHNNNNNNG CHAAAOOOOOOS.........
Lord X
>>587104354>>587105338>>587106085What does "OC" stand for? "Original Character." What's something all of these "characters" lack? Originality.Needing to base your work off an already existing IP is literally the antithesis of being "original." If anything, it's less creative, having to follow the rules.There's no way to make it work. If it's too disconnected from the world, there's no reason it needs to be set in the world. If it's too connected to the world, you're taking pre-existing media and changing it to fit your tastes. If you have to do that, then there's no reason it needs to be set in the world.For example, Woefag admitted to stealing the idea for his "character" right from the comics. Doesn't sound creative or fun.Even then, it's all the same shit all over again. Hedgehog, cat, wolf. Hedgehog, cat, wolf. You may eventually find one that's different, but you're wading through piles of shit just to find more shit. It's a drag and drop of elements and colors that would be better suited for a goddamn coloring book or a flash game for preschoolers.There's plenty of places to talk about this shit if you want to. There's (for some reason) even on OC board over on /trash. Just because you base your creation off the franchise, that doesn't mean people will want to see your parade around your "characters."And the biggest reason they suck? They're boring. I have not seen a single reason why I should care for any of them. These are uncreative, derivative, off-topic cancers that only exist than to suck off the egos of the low-IQ troglodytes who are sad enough to make them. Congrats, you're Chris-Chan tier.
Who's ever blasting guns and roses, SHUT THE FUCK UP
>>587107542Trvth nuke
>>587107505Incel-y as fuck
>>587107146Iizuka is really going to let this franchise die being gay and lame. I hope when it happens, he feels shame and regret. And I hope all the homos he supported turn on him like they do with everyone else. Iizuka needs to be reminded that he helped ruin the series that gave him a career, but I doubt that brainless boomer knows any humility.
>>587107170Sa2 was a product of limitation and downsizing though. Not for nothing but it's usually lauded for being great in spite of those conditions rather than using them to plead for mercy as was the case with 06
>>587107146Is is thoShadow doesnt have such quills, on the left it's clearly Godzilla
>>587107542glad to see you, are you having a good day?
Sonic died with the Dreamcast
>>587107247i like them too though i hope they don't add too much more movie stuff lol i want to see where shadow and maria lived on the ark. like if they had rooms. i wonder if maria ever pulled him into bed and cuddled him, he would prob just lay there stiffly trying not to move while she drools on his head. then he would eventually relax and fall asleep too.
>>587107131>doesn’t understand point of greentextgtfo newfag
Tails
>>587107884Least obvious self reply
>>587107812I don't know, it's what Expo said was being drawnSo maybe their brains are just rotten with Sonadow, whatever
>>587104354More
>>587107112Then Iizuka needs to push back more and more. Amy's Sonic Channel bio was changed, people got angry, they found out Chris was involved in it, and then he desperately tried to shift blame to SOA in order to save his own skin and to throw people off because he couldn't handle the scrutiny
>>587107473It's like she's biting his snout.
>>587104354Yay!
>>587108170>Surge and Kit haveHave what nigga
Never fall asleepYou won't wake upDestroy the guillotineI walk with ShadowsI walk with ShadowsHiding from the gallows
>>587107884Cute! I love that, I can imagine that real well. Sometimes I feel like Shadow is the physical protector and Maria is the emotional protector. He guards her body but she guards his heart. Also yeah kinda disappointed we don't ever see where Shadow slept. Maria was always in the hospital bay but I think we see her room in JBH.
>>587108425>I have AIDS
i have severe nicoliosis
>>587107691>Sa2 was a product of limitation and downsizing thoughIt wasn't. Its just a narrative SA1fags spin.SA2 was the product of efficiency and ease of communication due to less bloat.It was a game made in the late 90s not a multi billion dollars modern day project.Games like HalfLife were made by like 10 people, dude.The reality is a lot of the budget in modern day game dev just goes to having people act as middlemen and ask for permission to do things.
>>587108703Stachedow
>>587109247Why can't they do big games with small teams in a couple years or so like they used to? Why do they need "middlemen and ask for permission to do things"? Why does Iizuka say games take 5 years to make now when the output is Forces and Frontiers?
Douge
>>587109381>m.jpg
>>587109381CnC!
>>587107638Iizuka has always been a detriment to the franchise ever since he became the leader of Sonic Team in 2010. As soon as he became the leader of Sonic Team, the games immediately shifted from having a serious and cool tone to having a childish and self-deprecating one. Sonic Colors was the first example and although the tone is back to being serious and cool now, the problem of the English scripts being out of character and very different from the Japanese ones still persists. It's been that way ever since Sonic Colors and it hasn't gotten better.
I filtered "cnc"
>>5871095812010?
but cnc did nothing wrong....
>>587109584me too
Back when he was still a trust-fund child and only had a few million dollars
>>587109637Yes. Sonic Colors came out in 2010
>>587104354And?
momentum is a meme and you fell for it
>>587109381Cute N Canon!
Must have been the wind
>>587109725its only used by copers
>>587109652>>587109816Ocshit is off topic
>>587109898but so far all of its posters have been based and all the haters have been the copers
>>587109365https://youtu.be/oVrf1mhIJ0A
>>587109381Douge.
>>587109995cope
>>587109686>later that same day
>>587110086no u
>>587109995>that creepy smilefucking kek
https://soahcity.com/sonic-news/sonic-the-hedgehog-annual-2027-preview/See, these two pages are actually nice. No split or internal competition, just a selection of Sonic games being represented equally and described accurately with neutral language. The only place where the idea of two Sonics comes up is the time travel story with no implication that those are the only two "Sonics" that exist. Sonic Superstars is described as a sidescroller with a retro style and a modern twist, not as a game in the separate Classic Sonic series. Unfortunately, I know this positive presentation of Sonic games will be exclusive to these two pages.
>>587109686CnAC
>>587104354*OCs
>>587108703wait where do we see her room? i read it but dont remember
>>587109813*Coloursalso Iizuka has been de facto the mvp since sa2
>>587110104why are shadougefags such aggressive assholes.
>>587110382Iizuka directed Sonic Adventure, Sonic Adventure 2, Sonic Heroes, and Shadow the Hedgehog. He became the head of Sonic Team in 2010. I don't think it's right to blame him for everything you don't like since 2010 though.
>>587110463Inferiority complex at being deconfirmed by Sega themselves. It's usually just one guy though.
>>587107247>>587107884I still find it funny that Gerald's diary canonicized Abe being a literal accident because some researchers couldn't keep it in their pants
I just want you guys to know that the reason these threads have been so awesome is that I've been deathly sick the past five days, but I'm getting better. That means I won't have time to funpost here anymore since I'll be going back to being a productive member of society. I just wanna say that it's been a lot of fun! See you on the flip side!
>>587110457Post more knouge
>>587110659Cute cute cute cute
Dikal
>>587110608get well soon and go gettem, shadamybro
>>587110663
>>587110463>m-mommy shadougechads are bullying me again!suck it up lol
>>587110659>>587110801I love this artist
>>587110761>competing over who gets to protect whogee i wonder how many y chromosomes were involved in making this
>>587110463It's called banter pussy. Welcome to 4chin
>>587110382Colors (no "u") is canon because that's what the Japanese use.
>>587110801Kek poor knux
>>587107247is she about to jump into that black doom infested water
>>587110608Thank god no more troonsite 3dtracespam
Double n tsun
shadougebros...knougebros...
>>587111295>tsunIt's only tsun if they use hostility to hide their true feelings. The hostility is their true feelings. They do not like each other
>>587110659>Rouge is a fruit batThat.....makes so much sense actually
>>587111409They don't like each other. They love each orher.
>>587109807"You know, I never had much as a kid. Just loving parents, stability and a mansion, and a collection of maids and servants for me to inherit. Useless crap like that.”
>>587111342
>>587111409I'm a Shadouge fan and even I don't believe this.>>587111615I don't believe this either though.
>>587110910CUUUUUUUTE!!!
>>587110031Thank you, finally a good answer to this question, I've been asking for years
aaaaaaaiiiiiiiiieeeeeeee STOP POSTING TINY IMAGES THAT I CAN'T SEE!!!!!!!
>>587111934
https://x.com/HyperBitHero/status/2118733781779746907
>>587109807>>587111651How did the Blackwoods live before Mr. Benefactor showed up? The story makes it seem like the castle never had any servants before he started brainwashing people
>>587112010sloppy mspaint job, mossad
>>587111864TLDW?
>>587112010Really short legs
>"I am not interested in a relationship."How do you respond?
>>587112071what's this drawfags' name and why his work isn't being archived on booru
>>587111807AwwKnux deserves love too
>>587112309>why his work isn't being archived on booruThis place is gay and is an exclusive depository of whiteboards in the current state
>>587112071How about you shut the fuck up?
>>587112252Lol
>>587111990NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>587112252Would you ask someone what size legs they wear when buying pants?
>>587112209Suicide
>>587112071The Blackwood family was probably old money that was in decline and losing relevance. Also, the castle is apparently a pretty recent building that wasn't built by a Blackwood.
>>587112751Why does Roog bully Knuckles bros...
>>587112751But...he's the one who broke it...and Rouge was the one upset over him doing it...
>shipspam is okay when we do itTotally makes people like the ship more. You guys are just as bad as shadamyfag
>>587112874HE DESERVES IT
>>587112995kek
>>587112191as mobians should
>>587112097Im the anon that posted the link.Devs take too much time figuring out what thr fuck they are even doing because of scope creep, lack of a clear vision or idea and overthinking about what is or isn't a good thing to have in the game.For comparison, the Team Gameplay in Heroes was more or less something the devs cooked up by experimenting, fucking around, getting everyone else to try it and see if they liked it, and then everyone saying "might, guess this is the game we are making".Nowadays there is all this time spent on assessing what the correct thing to make even is, going over market trends and feedback, etc on top of hierarchy of approval.Then there is the fact that devs, on larger teams, tend to not be a closer nit group of people with a solid relationship and group culture as a dev studio.Sonic Team back in the day was the product of devs who worked and grew together as a studio under eachothers cooperation and management. This doesnt exist anymore due to brain drain. The studio is scattered and fractured and trying to rebuild itself.Then you have higher ups being more picky about needing things to be cookie cutter and paint by numbers to fit certain parameters to get approval.
Inhuman Rampaging Silver
>>587111591cnc
I need more Blackwood pics
>>587113295I fuckin' WISH Silver was overly-passionate like this.
>>587112426
>>587112995AAAAAIIIEEE *jobs*
>>587113295Holy fucking shit this is too good. This is exactly what this franchise needs.
>>587112874She is literally his girl bully and irs how she gets his attention.
>>587113373Just saw this, thought it was neat.
>>587113615You already posted that one! >>587111295
>>587113295Tbh, Blackwood reads as a deconstruction of Blazefags that sperg about Silver for no reason for statusfag reasons.
>>587113373
>>587113919
Rouge is a greedy girl who deserves everything.
>>587112914Dougecel...
>>587114051That’s a pretty unique view on the character. Nice.
I'm still shocked someone unironically said "get a grip" here the other day.
>>587114484Why’s that?
>>587114404Did you reply to the wrong person?
>>587114051What do you mean by "statusfag reasons"?
Rouge should have a faint Louisiana drawl.
>>587114582It's like saying "far out!" or "that was tight!" It's like someone time travelled 20 years into the future.
>>587114693what is wrong with sonic fans
>>587112071Either quit or worked to death if their current retinue is any indication. I wouldn't be surprised if the bottomless pit under Sylvania Castle was a mass grave for the hired help.
So far this series has been some of the most unimpressive and unimaginative ship art I've ever seen. It really is just Tom n Jerry antics
>>587114413>shit's on Silver for being a lowstatus commonor >devalues all her relationships outside of shipping her with Sonic because its "higher billing">reduces her to a powerfag trophy I noticed that since the arc, Blazefags have had something of a reality check and a lot more Blazefans are trying to highlight her strengths outside of shipfaggotry in general. Not all of them, those still exist anf havent gone anywhere, but a lot of them had something of a reality check when they saw all thr fuss people had over the Blazewood stuff getting popular.
>>587114970this series isn't for shipping.
>>587114970copen seethen
>>587114742Nobody cares, faggot.
>>587115140Found the bully magnet.
>>587114693GARFIELD NOOOO
>>587114687A lot of the Sonazefags that bitch and moan about her being paired with Silver do so because they see it as her being made to settle for "lesser stock".Blackwood shits on Silver for being a comoner and mocks their relationship, claiming since she is a princess, there is no way she sees him as anything more than "the help".
how did gng write Tbh without it being translated into seachink?
>>587114693>LouisianaWhy are you trying to turn her into Bunnie?You'd have a better time arguing she should sound slightly Latina.>>587114970This isn't a shipping series to begin with. It's mickey mouse characters with anime and edge.
>>587115220I remember when I was a kid I lied about being bullied to get out of trouble for throwing a stick in front of an oncoming car.
>>587115159Shitpissversisters....
>>587115220Bitchmade gen z faggot.
>>587113295Silver is talking about stuff that ranges from an erased past he doesn't remember to outright bullshit that never happened. Silverfags have to make up shit to give their boy "aura" and to a milquetoast IDW OC at that. Pathetic.
>>587115503I remember when I was a teen I kicked some kid's ass for throwing a stick at my car.
I don't think i can change my perspective on Silver and his fans at all, i tried TWICE already, i tried to ignore and to understand and to compare, but none of it clicks.
>>587115596Don't pop a blood vessel now.
>>587115680kek found the bed wetter
>>587115659>>587115686Get a grip.
>>587114742Not really? "Get a grip" is a rather evergreen expression that is much older than those."Get a grip" is closer to "tough luck" or "that's rough".
>>587114051>>587115039You Silvaze shippers are schizos.
>>587115659What’s Silver doing in the past if the future is good, then? You’re the one making shit up because you hate Silver, Blazefag.
>>587115823>>587115865that's unc
>>587115897Not a Silvazefag. I just hate Blazeshitters
>>587114742NTA. I don't like modern slang because it isn't as mondo radical. But metal AF sounds sort of cool. Lock in sounds cool. I can't think of other Gen Z slang that's awesome, but hype moments and aura sounds good. It sounds too internet native and lacking real grit like older slang to me.
>>587115994What would a contemporary equivalent be then, Alphie-kun?
>>587115897What was schizo about any of that? Even if it wasn't the writers' intentions, the effect is still the same.
>>587115997We know. Typical Blazefag hates Silver.
>>587115943Silver's literally babbling that he grew up in some apocalyptic future when that only happened in his 06 backstory that he doesn't remember. His current future is peaceful unless something disrupts it. Do you even know shit about your own favorite character, bub?
>>587116254He may not have much, but he has his bro.
>>587116210Right, so the future is bad. You do realize you’re proving me right, right?
>>587116139>Even if it wasn't the writers' intentions, the effect is still the same.That's called headcanon or fanfiction.
>>587116323No it isn't. The effect on the FANDOM is still the same. That's real life. Sonazefags can't use their same old tired spiels anymore.
Silver is supposed to be this serious character but he always sounds a bit nerdy in every English dub for 20 years now. It's cute.
>>587113295original DBZ dub levels of edge
>>587116323In that case everyone who has ever consumed art is headcanonfags. Interpreting art n shieeet.
"get a grip" is a universal phrase. What is this wannabe-zoomer talking about? Those faggots use it too and so will Gen Alpha.
Silver does have the problem of him and his fans having his future be good now but they still wanna have their cake and eat it too by acting like his past still informs the character even though it shouldn't anymore.That's worth sorting out.
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>>587116389You're a brainrotted shipper.
>>587116323No, headcanon and fanfiction is when you make things up about the reality of the fiction.What i did was use framing to inspect how the story can be viewed from an analytical perspective and its impact on the readers and wider fandom.Whether Evan did it on purpose, I cant say and dont claim to. But the impact is very observable.
>>587116314You're deliberately not understanding the discourse and I'm not gonna waste my time arguing with someone who is clearly speaking in bad faith.
post goth amu
>>587116893This isn't goth. This is alt-punk
>>587116753You just described headcanon/fanfiction. When it's not the writer's intent, it becomes that by default.
>>587116969She looks more like Lemmy from Motorhead. That hat looks sort of evil, and bad to me.
>>587116254
>gothmy posting
>>587117390tigerfog is so goatedi was sad when the focus went exclusively on tmnt
>>587117000Are you being stupid on purpose? Headcanon and fanfiction would have to be about something diagetic about the story.Saying Amy likes Hersey's Kisses is a headcanon.Saying Amy uses heart magic is fanfiction.Stuff in the story/universe.This isn't that. This is saying "Hey, look [pattern] existing and [has effect] on readers.What i did is no different than pointing out how a lot of Shadowfags are fangirls that like the edgy anime rival who gave his life for the wish of a girl he cared about to give him purpose, and how that reflects tendencies in adolescent girls wanting yo tame and control bad boys.
Sonic skateboard
I CAN FIGHT THE FEELING TO RESIST IT OVER TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>587117620I miss when Sonic was characterized as a cool skater boy instead of a goody-two shoes, comic book superhero
goth/punk/emo/altmy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYpg8bqKbW0
>>587116859I barely cared enough to begin with, let alone “debate” you. You’re just a seething Blazefag that hates Silver.
Powerscalingbros I have a question.Do you take Sonic beating Perfect Chaos without the Chaos Emeralds seriously?Do you take Shadow beating Metal Overlord and Super Devil Doom without the Chaos Emeralds seriously?How much stronger are these two getting?
>>587117534Unless Evan states it as such. It's headcanon. End of discussion. Plus, I'm pretty sure you were just trying to make up a narrative to attack Blaze fans like you always do.
>>587117845She's lonely anon just debate her.
EVERYTHING Evan writes is just her SHITTY GOTF HEADCANON. She never cared about Sonic characters and should be fired already. It's frustrating reading a single sentence written by her because she can't control herself. She will put ACTUAL fanfiction directly in the comic
>>587117950I personally don't, but I know why they did what they did. It's one of the problems the Japanese have where they're obsessed with power levels / scaling rather than measuring feats.
>>587117626BUT WHEN ITS JUST 2 MUCH 2 TAKE YOU SNEAK UP FROM BEHIND
>>587117845Where was Blaze mentioned in that post besides in your head?
have they established WHY silver is currently in the present beyond him not being able to go home?
>>587118432In IDW? Lol, nope. Not at all.
>>587117950My real hot take is that Sonic never needed the Emeralds to beat Perfect Chaos to begin with. He needed them to pacify him.Not even a powerscaler. I find the powershitters that insist Sonic is "irrelevant speed tier" because of Gens to be dishonest, cringe and fucking retarded.
>>587118465
>>587117974Not sure who your boogeyman is but im not them, but thanks for making it clear your just an agendafag, lol
>>587118465Get him away from the paint!
>>587117950Significantly stronger. Super Sonic probably didn't need full power to stop Perfect Chaos, but the implication is probably Multiplicative over the original power level instead of additive.
>>587118089>she
What should I emulate 06 on? Xenia canary?
>>587118525>>587118792Was there ever a time where Sonic NEEDED the Chaos Emeralds to win? Like, he couldn't win otherwise? Aside from, like, the Biolizard, because they needed that to breathe in space and fly and all that.
>>587118667>Uh, Blackwood was an allegory used to show how bad Blazefags!>Uh, I doubt Evan intended that, though!Headcanon. Discussion over. Just say you hate Blazefags and move on with your life, buddy.
>>587119192Every boss fight since then is either in space or something where flight is an absolute necessity
>>587118831>SonazefagShe. It's the IchiRuki of Sonic.
>>587119347Good point. I guess I'm asking if there's ever enemies stronger than Sonic or Shadow that can only be beaten with the Emeralds because of that, not just because they needed some extra ability like flight. Actually now that I think about it it's pretty clear the Titans from Frontiers were the perfect example of this.
>>587119192Frontiers makes it pretty clear Sonic needs them to fight the Titans.Eggman says they need them explicitly to beat Metal Overlord. Same with Solaris. Time Eater beat both Sonics prior to them going Super.Same with Dark Gaia.
>>587119306I said he reads as one. Reads.Something you clearly arent capable of doing. You're literally just mad because you feel called out.
>>587119653>Eggman says they need them explicitly to beat Metal Overlord.But then Shadow beats him with no Emeralds AND no backup. Shadow = OP.
>>587119306>Just say you hate BlazefagsThey literally did. Right here.>>587115997Learn to read, schizo.
>>587118432Silver is going to become the next Knuckles
>>587119912Only if they kill off knuckles, which is becoming more and more likely
>>587119856Yeah, that settles it. They def got stronger over time. Sonic even beats Shadow in their fight right after.Unless you wanna argue Doom Powers are stronger than Team Super. Not comfortable making that claim
Why has there never been a Sonic animated seriers without some kind of twist? It's always a "new spin". AOSTH and SatAM have the excuse that there was literally no information shared from SOJ but we know at this point. Don't give me Sonic X. Sonic X is utter dogshit. I want a Sonic show that is just a fucking Sonic show.
Show me your power or I will not obey.I represent all things and shall become Gizoid, conqueror of all.
>>587120149Sonic Boom.
>>587119772No, you're just a headcanon retard seething over Blazefags. Nothing more.
>>587120149>from SOJ but we know at this point. Don't give me Sonic X. Sonic X is utter dogshit. I want a Sonic show that is just a fucking Sonic show.The only problem with X is the characterizations which they completely butchered. Those characterizations continue to contaminate the series today.
>>587120008Sonic really didn't beat Shadow in that exchange. Shadow chose to let him go, the story makes it clear. Is Shadow with no Emeralds stronger than Team Super? I don't see why he wouldn't be. That is, Heroes Era Team Super. Current Era Team Super I wouldn't know. Speaking of which wow Tails has reeeeeally been downgraded since the 2010s.
>>587119887>I don't hate Blazefags but *makes post slandering them*Mmhm.
Wish I may, wish I mightBe someone else tonightSometimes I wish I was never born at allAnd I'll try to save the world'Cause in the end I knowI'm the chosen one
>>587119912>"Future is important" fags vs "Fuck the future let him hang out" fagsWhat a mess that would be>>587119980Not gonna happen
>>587120374Couldn't walk away from somethingB r o k e nTry and find a way to make itG o o d a g a i nOnly you can make a differenceD a r l i n 'B r o k e nroken
>>587120149Sonic Prime doesn't have a twist. It's game canon>but it was written bad the characterizations and lore don't--Still not a conscious twist. Those guys legitimately thought they were making canon Sonic and Sega didn't bother to corral them
Gothmy!
>>587104030I could see Kit coming first actually, Japanese fans seem to like Kit
>>587120413It 100% will happen. Franchises kill off major characters all the time to generate buzz. Knuckles would be easy to kill off, his role on team sonic has slowly been replaced by amy and shadow can fill any rivalry role. He serves basically zero purpose and is only there for nostalgia
>>587120324>Sonic really didn't beat Shadow in that exchangeYes he did.>Shadow chose to let him go, the story makes it clearNo, what happened is he could have won with doom powers but didnt wanna win that way.The fight is clearly framed as them being matches for eachother. As per usual.
>>587120149>I want a Sonic show that is just a fucking Sonic show.You can't get a Sonic show for the same reasons that you can't get a Sonic movie
>>587120352No retard. They are saying I already admitted to hating them. There is no hidden agenda, lmao.Fuck yall. G
Tell me something about your favorite character that should be represented more
>>587120692>Yes he did.I mean he won because Shadow threw the fight. I'm not scaling a fight where someone forfeits.>The fight is clearly framed as them being matches for eachother. As per usual.Not really, by your own logic it's framed as Sonic > Shadow.
>>587120821You're angry that a contradiction was found lol.
>>587120621If he got added I would buy it, also Trip or Marine.
>>587120643When do they do that the character usually comes back. Also Alfred existed for like 70 years before he was permanently killed off
>>587120643Anon please stop being ridiculous. They're no more likely to kill Knuckles than they are any other currently used game character
>>587120643Sonic isn't an american superhero comic series, west-kun.It's a mascot platformer videogame series.
>>587120840This is the part where I derail the thread by saying Shadow's moved on life from Maria should be represented more
>>587120840Sonic cares about animals.
>>587120854Are you just...reading my post selectively on purpose?
>>587120621One of them REALLY likes him.
>>587120876What's the contradiction?
>>587121148Amen.
>>587120961As one of the people who didn't believe fully he moved on, the idea that I actually gaslit myself into a headcanon that was later affirmed due to movie synergy is kind of funny.
>>587120840Amy going shopping and being into fashion. I liked how BoC gave us more of that.
>>587119903She should wear a necktie
>>587120840Metal Sonic. If SEGA is intent on keeping him mute the least they could do is make him more visually expressive. That said, I would have him go back to imitating Sonic's body language like he did in CD.
>>587121510I think people overexaggerate the body language imitation thing when its just this one finger wag
>>587120840Him.
>>587119368Not like other girls girls are a special breed.
>>587121186>I don't hate Blazefags even though I clearly have beef with them!...
>>587121623I am essentially not like the other girls girl but gender bent male
killing myself tonight
>>587119368Imagine hating a ship this much.
>>587121598Yeah, and he doesnt even do it the same way either.
>>587121737It's a shit ship. Like NaruHina.
>>587121148Some of these have to be mistranslations lmao.
tsundere x mc and worshipping girl x mc are both bad and the anime community isn't ready for this discussion
>>587121846NaruHina's problem is that is basically didnt happen proper in the series itself.Ichihime doesnt have that issue. Its literally just a conflating of NotLikeOtherGirls girls, main-girl fags and coolgirl waifufags etc being unhinged for no reason.
>>587122003>big testiclesfinally, some recognition
>>587122090IN THIS HOUSE RUKIA IS THE MAIN GIRLEND OF STORY
>>587122003What is it about Kit that draws in the most mentally unhinged fans. regardless of were they are from.
>>587122061It seems to me more that /co/fags only tolerate like 1 type of female character and sperg at anything deviating from that ever.
Second Hedgehog Trio game when?
>>587122134One of these is my favorite.
>>587122260Kit is kind of a psychopath I don't know if you noticed that
>>587121724thought this was a pic of xenogears for a sec
>>587121724Shadow the Hedgehog really is the best Sonic game ever
>>587122481It's like stealing candy from a baby, which is fine by me!
>>587122003>>587122342Now you know why I put "average tomiipepe tweet" in the filename.
>>587121071I'm sorry what point are you trying to convey to me that I am ignoring?
>>587117950>Do you take Sonic beating Perfect Chaos without the Chaos Emeralds seriously?Yes, if he could do it without the Emeralds in SA1, then he just would've. I recognize that is not the point of the story, but this is the just nature of scaling in a series that cares more about the hype moments than they do a narrator explaining how things workIt's not just Perfect Chaos. Sonic needed Tails and Knuckles to beat the Egg Emperor in Heroes, but can solo him in 3DS.>Do you take Shadow beating Metal Overlord and Super Devil Doom without the Chaos Emeralds seriously?A little bit, but I guess it becomes spotty when you try to imagine if "2011" Doom Shadow has more power (be it destructive or durability) than the combined might of three Super forms?>How much stronger are these two getting?Strong and not strong enough. Super Sonic cannot solo The End. With Super Shadow, they probably could've defeated it.Consider this fuckery equationSupreme = 0.9x Super Sonic (he can still beat SupremeThe End is 1.9x Super Sonic (Super + Supreme)1.9 (the end) + 0.9 (supreme) = Supreme controlled by The End is 2.8x Super SonicSuper Sonic 2 is agreeably roughly around this so full Cyber Super is, at weakest 2.9x Super
>>587122237>Gothmy with massive 2000s edgelord deviantart energyI approve
>>587122212We know, Blazefag.
>>587122543Yeah, my chest hurts a little from giggling.
>>587122310I assume in 2030 when Silver's movie comes out
Honest thoughts on Shadamy?
>>587122558Shadow does not intentionally lose. He gets beat because he chose not to win by using DoomPowers. Up to that point, the fight was even, and the characters are consistently stated to be and treated as equals.
>>587122838Choosing not to win is intentionally losing
>>587122816Cute, also canon.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcL7whEc_dk
>>587122838I wasn't ignoring that, I was contradicting it. Shadow clearly hesitates, giving Sonic an opening, and more importantly it can be argued Shadow even "won" that exchange because he basically pickpocketed Sonic without Sonic noticing.
>>587123013>Self-insert slop by Toonsite
Shadow the Hedgehog promo images make me feel happy
>>587122816Fake N Forced
>>587123226Back when Sonic games had testosterone and were actually cool
>>587123308FnF!
>>587123226Shadow's game is pnk (peak and kino)
Lets complete this together /sthg/Send suggestions for the first name on the write-in!
>>587123226Really? They make me depressed. All I can think about is the fear that my favorite game series will be cancelled over trash decisions.
cnc
>>587123528Dexter
>>587123584I like them
>>587123528kys
>>587123682To each his own.
>>587123682It's crazy that the sonic model made to promote this fuckng game has kept us prisoner for 21 years and counting
don't open this
>>587123924Sonic the Hedgehog is a human being.
>>587123528>>587123642Next? What food for Amy?
>Modern Sonic model created for Shadow the Hedgehog intro>Jeff Fowler was the lead animator on that intro something creepy about this
>>587124128Shit
>>587124128Kibble
there's no fucking way someone's doing a participation project in the middle of a 4chan forum
>>587124321hey technically he's playing a sonic game for once
>>587124321we've done this before years ago. It's nothing new>>587124441KEK
>>587124128Amy went on to meet Sonic and told them all about her adventure. They had a wonderful time!
>>587124128Ostrich eggs
>>587124128>>587124201>>587124239I liked both, what's Dexter's food?
>>587124697>>587124789
>dexterhaha sonic chronicles
>>587124789Snot
>>587121598In a game with a limited visual palette one sprite says a lot about a character: Their abilities, personality, motivations, etc. In this case Metal Sonic was designed to copy Sonic and that's precisely what the gesture is attempting to convey. (As I side note, while making this post I realized his death animation is identical to Sonic's.)>>587121748Because Metal himself is a flawed imitation. If anything it's more unnerving to see such mannerisms coming from a heartless killing machine. There's no sincerity behind it, no soul.
Why are Sonic fans so stupid?
>>587125023*a side note
>>587124789Popcorn
I like the gunshot menu sounds
>>587125527Me too. I want Shadow to be able to use guns again but in a way that actually makes him look cool and not cheesy
>>587125631I'm fine with Shadow being the weapon personally, but I like how much that game committed to the bit while also not
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIwI4PB2aRk
>>587125735At least Shadow got to be cool again in Shadow Generations but he really needs a better and younger voice actor
>>587126206How about Ian Hanlin?
those racing games should have been about bosozokus
>>587126296He's really good but I think Sega would prefer to hire an American voice actor
if sonic games tried to be performatively edgy again...
Surge and Kit general
>>587126449Shadow 05 was performatively edgy but SA1, SA2, and 06 were not
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ftPPjbaaxw
>>587126593Shadow was the best part of Prime.
>>587126593>finally get a VA that sounds like dreamcast Shadow>it's a fucking canuck who can't be hired into the games
Edge is like a shot of adrenaline to the heart
Never cut it as a wise hedgehogThis is how you remind meI've been wrong I've been down, to the bottom of every bottle
>>587126854I don't want to talk badly about people I don't know but who the fuck is directing the dude who was Shadow in Boom to sound the exact same while voicing Yuujiro? (I don't watch Baki dubbed I was just flashbanged by it at some point.)
>>587122873He didnt choose not to win. He chose not to win that specific way.
>>587123064He didn't pickpocket. Sonic left with the wrong emerald.Rouge is the one that swaps them later.The point stands.
>>587127443I think Kirk has talent but he has a terrible voice for the job
>>587127689The problem with the current Sonic voice actors is that they're good but are a miscast for the characters. Roger, Cindy, and Kirk are all miscasts and need to be replaced with people who don't make Sonic, Amy, and Shadow sound like adults
>>587127920Do NOT speak poorly of Cindy I WILL fight you for the honor of the lady.
>>587127920Agreed
>>587128168>boomyshitter
>>587128168YOU RUINED EVERYTHING
Prime Sonic is such a loser. Wtf were they thinking with his writing?
>>587128903Prime was one of the last things written when Sonic's canon age was 15 and a lot of westerners don't know to separate his personality from his age
>>587128698>>587128714*unzips dick* SWORDFIGHT ME YOU FAGGOTS THOU SHALT NOT BESMIRCH CINDY NOR BOOM AMY
>>587129013That doesnt explain it because its uniquely a Sonic issue. Also plenty of shows write teens and 15 year olds without making they goober losers.The age thing is an excusatory explanation. Not an explanatory one.
Boom Amy makes me irrationally angry
>>587129097You're the "PinkHag"fag, arent you....
>>587124980>>587124887>>587125298>>587124789How did Amy feel?
>>587129296Incorrigible
>>587128903The show was written and produced by Erik Wiese who is known for spongebob
>>587125023CD was famously NOT limited by their sprites. If they wanted to give Metal more animations like the foot tapping they could've
>>587128903When Prime came out I went out of my way to look for people who actually liked it to see who this appeals to. I found that this characterization for Sonic mainly appeals to fans of the older western cartoons and Archie, like Game Apologist. For fans of the games or Sonic X it was pretty universally panned.
Say what you will about Sega's Sonic the Hedgehog timeline, it's nowhere near as fucked as Crash Bandicoot.
>>587129296Inconsolably miffed.
>>587129296horny
>>587127452Then he could've kept fighting without that power until a result naturally found itself. He tactically decided not to do that though.
>>587129486Yeah, it was kinda melodramatic and dragged on just to fill out the runtime.
>>587129335>>587129560>>587129563>>587129296What did she take out?
"THIS ISN'T YOU NINE" for 4 hours
>>587129895strap on
>>587129895her iconic TAROT CARDS
>>587129535Finding out Tawna was FUCKING DEAD in It's About Time was such a cockslap>>587129895Yaoi paddle
>>587129895Tarot Cards
>>587129632>tacticallyNice choice word doing a lot of heavily lifting
>>587129895Sonic tulpa
>>587130168>>587129940>>587129939>>587129925>>587129895Who did she meet? It doesn't necessarily have to be the same as before
>>587129535Can someone break this down for me including canonicity
>>587130748Coldsteel
>>587130998god imagine sally dropkicking you in your stupid fucking face...
>>587130998Why are you posting this shit
>>587131251do you want more
>>587131251he's exercising his freedom, like Sonic would want
>>587131297Windbros???
>>587130748>>587130663>>587130858I actually liked this more and thought it was fitting. Last one, what kind of time did they have?
Would making up a Dexter be ooc for amy or no? Would Sonic actually be upset or no?
>>587132026"Gay old"
>>587132086He wouldn't give a damn but it's OOC anyways because then Amy would be acknowledging that she isn't Sonic's gf
>>587132230lmao I was thinking the exact same thing
>>587132371every time i see surge i gomani miss rough and tumble
>>587132429they'll be back soon!
>>587132510>loli surgeoh no>shota kitOH NO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBZ82yvHrKYToday was a good day.Good Night.
Acabo de borrar por accidente mi carpeta de porno. Quizás haya sido mejor así. Debería empezar de cero. Y las cosas tienen que estar... dentro de lo normal.
>>587132026Windy
>>587132429Why
>>587132648G’night
>>587132825Motherfucker you need to stop posting "Why" as a response to everything I post you've hit me three (3) fucking times in the past five minutes with this shit and you're not within bitch-choking range for me to do anything about it so I'm gonna ask you nicely cut that shit out.
>>587132969NTA, Why?
Shitver is such a happy cuck!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lC39lPVYUE
>>587132969you're such a cute tsundre
>>587132969>you're not within bitch-choking rangeI'm weak lmao
>>587132969lmao??
>>587132969
>>587132969This is my first time asking why in this whole thread. Youre a schizo who clearly has issues communicating
>>587130831Naughty Dog didn't want to get rid of Tawna.Universal/Sony wanted to get rid of Tawna.Toys for Bob made a game that implied Tawna was murderedAnd Charles Zembillas (Original Designer of Crash and Tawna) drew Father's day art showing Crash and Tawna with their kids.
>>587133339way too ruin the vibe
>>587132969Why?
>>587132705mfw when things are Brappening in town.
>>587118432A portal appeared in the future but when he came back there was no immediate dangee. He can go home but the portal would persist and if he ignores it the future will be ruined
>>587133375Can you explain more
Surge isn't remotely on par with Sonic
>>587132026>>587132230>>587132705And with that, the adventure concludes! Thanks for playing!
>>587133708Surge is a massive jobber but what's funny is that she doesn't know it and everyone else is humoring her.
>>587133708I like to believe she's a statistical equal to him>>587132371 like Shadow
>>587133762This should be the next OP
>>587133829Sonic and Shadow can lift up extremely heavy objects and Surge is never seen doing anything like that
>>587133996Yeah but this isnt used as a point of contention for a weakness difference. It doesn't seem like she can't do that, in fighting her physical strength is comparable to Sonic's
>powerscaling hourThread IQ just dropped a bit.
>>587132252>He wouldn't give a damnBut what about the whole "sonic likes her back too" thing>but it's OOC anyways because then Amy would be acknowledging that she isn't Sonic's gfBut there've been varying accounts on her even seeing herself that way
>>587134275Yeah it totally going so good before that with... *scrolls up*... lame art being posted occasionally
As far as strength goes, it's>shadow>sonic>silver>omega>amy>knuckles, rouge>blaze>tails
but can sonicman beet megaman
>>587134349Can you even imagine JPnic being jealous
aahhh deathbattle... one of my favorite recreational pastimes... did you know that sonic is actually stronger then knuckles because force is equal to mass times acceleration...? hmm... always thought that was a funny little nugget heheh...
>>587134427It wasn't, and (You)'re making it worse. Do better.
eat foodget fat
>>587134461Are you talking about physical muscle or powerset? Both would be wrong anyway
>>587134523If Charmy was bigger he could be the best Sonic proportional to his girth
Shadow moved on from Maria and so should you
>>587134618Both, but physical strength and powerset are usually fairly closely linked. I know for a fact all the hedgehogs are in another league just in terms of raw strength
11/7 is belly day in JP, what a glorious holiday
shadriagods... how the FUCK do we recover from this...??
>>587134714This is incorrect. Knuckles is the physical strongest/strongest thing alive
PENIS
>>587134705Shadow will move on from Maria again in 15 years.
eat foodget strong
>>587134829>Knuckles is the physical strongest/strongest thing aliveThat is laughably untrue. Shadow is shown boasting incredible feats of strength, and we knows sonic is roughly on his level. Even at the most generous knuckles is only third strongest. Still, we know Omega was made to stop shadow, so he's likely way stronger than knuckles
Mario wil never leave Sahdow's hrart
surge with tongue out
>>587133762Tarot cards makes me laugh far more than anything else.
>>587134971Omega is a buster unit. He specifically counters Shadow but is B-tier at most against everyone else.
>>587134992
>>587135031Okay, so it's>Shadow>Sonic>Silver>Amy>Knuckles/Rouge>Tails>Omega
>>587134520
>>587135151Alright I'm going to bed, I'd rather shitpost with white people than whatever this mystery meat is.
>>587135031>Omega is a buster unit. He specifically counters Shadow but is B-tier at most against everyone else.Based on what? You don't really have any fights to support this notion. Being able to beat Shadow means he has to be pretty strong objectively. He doesn't have some magical Shadow kryptonite, he just has the ability to fight forever which is objectively useful and strong
>>587135236It's not mystery meat, it's pajeet
Shadow and Maria are very cute
>>587135003
omega confirmed stronger than the triple shithogs
>>587134829Shadow is the strongest things alive. He's the ultimate lifeform. Knuckles is never shown doing anything too physically impressive unless you count genocide
>>587135502He has never fought Sonic or Silver
>>587135506>Shadow is the strongest things alive.No.>He's the ultimate lifeform.A title that is related to chaos power application and his immortal body, not his muscles.>Knuckles is never shown doing anything too physically impressive unless you count genocideKnuckles is stated to be as strong as Sonic is fast.
>>587135236>i want to talk to archiefags who didn't play sonic games
>>587135516sonic is the only one of the three that would win through sheer main character power
>>587135667>Knuckles is stated to be as strong as Sonic is fast.And shadow is as fast and stronger than sonic. If knuckles actually were that strong he would have beat sonic but no, he's lost to sonic every time they've fought. Shadow would mop the floor with knuckles, chaos powers or not
>>587135894>And shadow is as fast Yes>and stronger than sonic. No. Their stats are completely equal.>If knuckles actually were that strong he would have beat sonic but noBeing physically the strongest doesn't mean being the most powerful>he's lost to sonic every time they've fought.They literally tie in SA1 (and Rivals games), but if Sonic were to win, it is because of speed, not raw muscle strength>Shadow would mop the floor with knuckles, chaos powers or notIf he did, which hasn't happened yet, it would be because of his speed.
>>587134971>>587135506This is incorrect, Knuckles is physically stronger than Sonic and Shadow. Shadow's game had a flash site that gave all of the characters bios. It's no longer up, but I grabbed it from Internet Archive.JP:天空の島エンジェルアイランドで生まれ育ったマスターエメラルドの守護者。マーシャルアーツの使い手でもあり、腕力だけならソニックやシャドウにも勝る。単純で感情的な性格であるため、いつも周囲のトラブルに巻き添えになる。本作でも、ブラックアームズによって奪われたカオスエメラルドを追っていくうちに本来の目的を忘れ、次第に深みにはまっていくこととなる…。ヒーローサイドのミッションキャラクターとして、シャドウをサポートする。EN:Guardian of the Master Emerald, born and raised on Angel Island, the island in the sky. He is also a martial artist, and in sheer physical strength alone he beats even Sonic and Shadow. He is simple and emotional, so he always gets dragged into the trouble around him. In this game too, while chasing the Chaos Emeralds stolen by the Black Arms, he forgets what he set out to do and gets in deeper and deeper... As a Hero-side mission character, he supports Shadow.>in sheer physical strength alone he beats even Sonic and Shadow
>>587135863Bringing up plot armor is never really useful in these discussions. If Omega got a game then Omega might win that encounter but we don't get Omega games. All we can do is analyze surrounding factors. Maybe Omega is worse at dealing with wind-based techniques than Chaos powers
>>587136185It is so funny how you clutch up for once for something that isn't about Shadow and it's only because it was part of Shadow's game. You should link the flash site or the would-be archive link with screenshots next time you do so though
>>587136350It just happens to be from that game mate. Here you go.
>>587136185>power scaling retards just outright wrong never surprising
Shadow is the strongest character in the franchise.
Knuckles vs Shadow is absolute cinema
>>587136520One (1) retard was wrong in a back and forth argument
>>587136185>Shadow's game had a flash site that gave all of the characters bios. It's no longer up, but I grabbed it from Internet Archive.If that's the case then it can hardly be considered canon anymore. And conveniently nobody can fact-check you. Bravo!
>powerscaler retards btfo by the shipfoid
>>587136637I'd say Archie Reboot's fight was pretty close to how it should go
>>587136724One (1) retard singular
>>587136704https://web.archive.org/web/20130227020258/http://sonic.sega.jp/shadow/ch_knuckles.swfIt's a Flash file, not a page. The bio is drawn inside the file, so the link may download it or show nothing instead of displaying the text. You'd have to extract it yourself like I did.
>>587136731>archie>close to anything from the gameslollmao
Theoretically if Sega is inspired by the OOT remake like they were with BOTW and TP will we get a SA1 Remake?
>>587137016Is SA1 the OOT of Sonic
>>587134523Why is Elise covered in liverspots?
>>587137016I want an SA1, SA2, and Heroes collection for the PS4/PS5. It's long overdue. Time to put the old games into Hedgehog Engine 2 and upgrade their graphics, lighting, frame rate, and character models. The OOT remake is humiliating Sonic Team right now
>>587137171Anything but the hedgehog engine, I’d rather have unreal since hedgehog engine can’t produce attractive visuals
>>587137171I wasnt aware Sonic Team's direct competition was Zelda Team
can you just stop arguing by making shit up that isn't in the games
This page is good because it shows how Shadow would try to fight different from Sonic while letting Knuckles' skill and Chaos energy sense sniff Shadow out
>>587137413>Archieshit
>>587137324Sonic Team has been chasing Zelda for a while.Maybe since they realized they can’t catch Mario they’d go for Zelda
However this page is bad. Shadow's arm should be broken, he simply wouldn't be as strong as Knuckles to match the punch like this, cool visual or not
>>587137306Shadow Generations had good visuals but Unreal Engine 5 is still good
>>587137413I don't see Shadow the Hedgehog in that picture. I see his shitty Archie skinwalker.
>>587136185Don't let Ian Flynn find this. He'll become even more insufferable with his Knucklesfaggotry.
>>587137459You can spam this meme but they literally keep telling you they dont wanna put out or go back to that era of games again
Knuckles vs Shadow (no emerald): Nearly evenly matched. Shadow narrowly takes the win. If Shadow is weakened in any way, Knuckles takes itKnuckles vs Shadow (emerald): Knuckles holds his own for a bit but ultimately gets stomped, and Shadow takes it
>>587137598Frontiers definitive is something they are smart to admit was a failure on all accounts
>>587137631This is correct. You can replace Shadow with Sonic and it would still be correctNow... heh... what about Silver
>>587137509Shadow Gens looks like most Hedgehog Engine games, terrible lighting across the board and really really bad PBR when it is used. Terrible post processing effects too.
>>587137631Regardless, shadow is going to beat knuckles. It makes no sense for knuckles to be allowed to win. It just makes shadow look like a jobber otherwise
Yesterday proved that Archiedowfags are annoying faggots
>>587137794Unless Knuckles is able to punch the Super out of an offguard Super Shadow
who knew a walking talking gun was strong enough to kill an adventurer with maxed out stats, the 8th son of space satan born in a test tube, and a psychic with more power than social skills and self control
>>587137856Archiedowfags hate Shadow
Archie Shadow is literally 06 Shadow
>>587138257Fake N Forced!
>>587138257Cringe n Cope!
>>587138257And there it is
>>587138257Cute, post more Shadamy
>>587138257Shadow initiating affection is ooc
>>587132969Saved.
>>587138353It's shipping fanart. Why do you care so much if it's OOC? All of the Shadria stuff I see here is OOC too but no one complains.
is this canon?
Yesterday proved that shitposters aren't clever anymore
wtf happened yesterday that got u all shook
>>587138510
>>587138549The shadria stuff that gets posted is significantly more ic even if they slip up sometimes. it's like 20% ooc where you post 90% ooc.
>>587138664Archiefags and their "Shadow"
>>587138680KEK
>Open /sthg/>It’s all ships
>>587138549Shadamyfags going after Maria now.Tell me you are glad Amy's bio got changed to remove Sonic.
Can someone point to me the cutscene where Shadow acts like this in 06?
>>587138760We love Maria. I'm tired of Shadria fans acting like they are above everything.
>>587138830This is actually how Shadow acts in 05 when he begs the doctor to tell him who he is
>>587138830This is what archiefags think is good characterization
dows
>>587138853Even if it's not in a shipping context, Shadow's love for Maria is a huge part of the character, however you see that love. You can ship Shadamy without trying to claim it's on that level, and without trying to push that Shadow should replace her with Amy on an official level.
>>587138853if you love maria why do you want shadow to stop valuing her
Where does Kit get his sense of planning from? Starline hypnosis, like Surge's personality and his Surge devotion? It feels like it was left on the table to make Kit a supergenius like Tails is even though Starline had the means to do so
>>587139169>always with the bad framing
Why are Shadria shippers our worst posters.
>>587139178Starline gave Kit a bigger IQ
>>587139250you dislike sonic team
>>587139250They hate other ships even though Sega literally called them silbings
>>587139402Stop coopting, shitposter
>>587139259Bigger than what, 80?
Why are shitamyfags and shitougefags our worst posters
>>587139506Not Woefag?
Sonic Colors DSMission 3-3: Rouge and KnucklesRouge:JP: あら ナックルズ まだこんなところにいたの?Translation: Oh, Knuckles, you're still around here?Knuckles:JP: む コウモリ女か…まさか またマスターエメラルドを うばいにきたんじゃないだろうな?Translation: Hm, the bat girl... Don't tell me you've come to steal the Master Emerald again?Rouge:JP: さぁ どうかしらねTranslation: Well, who knows?Knuckles:JP: マスターエメラルドはわたさねぇぞ!Translation: I won't hand over the Master Emerald!Knuckles:JP: ソニック じゃまするな こいつのことだ どうせくだらない ことをたくらんでるにきまってる!Translation: Sonic, don't get in the way. This is her we're talking about. She's got to be scheming something stupid!Rouge:JP: くだらない とは ごアイサツねTranslation: "Stupid"? What a lovely thing to say.Rouge:JP: エッグマンにだまされて こーんな ところまで来たハリモグラなんかに 言われたいセリフじゃないわTranslation: That's not a line I want to hear from some echidna who got tricked by Eggman into coming all the way out here.Knuckles:JP: だ だまされてなんかねー!オレは 自分のいしで来たんだ!Translation: I-I didn't get tricked! I came of my own free will!Rouge:JP: ふふっ あら ほんとうにそうかしらね…?Translation: Heh heh. Oh, is that really so...?Knuckles:JP: !!な なんか もんくあるのかよ!Translation: !! Y-you got some complaint!?Rouge:JP: だって アンタ エッグマンの手紙をよんだから ここに来たんでしょ?Translation: Well, you came here because you read Eggman's letter, didn't you?Knuckles:JP: !!Translation: !!Rouge:JP: あれ じつはアタシがかいたの アンタを からかうためにね!楽しんでもらえたかしら?Translation: That was actually me who wrote it. To tease you! Did you enjoy it?Rouge:JP: じゃあね~Translation: Bye now~Knuckles:JP: …Translation: ...Why did she do it?
>>587137789Shadow Gens looked so much better than Frontiers. Frontiers looked stiff, plasticy, and terrible
Shadria will never be this popular
>>587132648ah! I gotta click this, Kiturge anon always has good music drops.This town needs guns was a good album to work to.
Sonic said きょうから ボクがおもしろい>From today, I'm AWESOME.
>>587140109That's real cool anon. Post it to Twitter next time
>>587140109Eh I've e seen art tagged shadria get over 10k before
>>587140109If you got so much feedback, why not just stay on Twitter?Or post the images independently?We don't need a Twitwar screen cap.
>>587132969i keked
>>587114051>>587115039Maybe but i think Evan's not really that deep cut>>587115897>Silvaze out of nowhere
>>587140109shadria haters are self screenshotting twitter niggers?
>>587113486I think he's supposed to come off as that way but westerners don't get him
>>587140109Nice bots
>>587118089>>587119368Aren't most sonazefags waifufag males or troons
Sonurge should be banned to post
>>587141008Bestie...
>Sonic characters and SoJ-approved IDW characters missing in Crossworlds:Neo Metal SonicInfiniteMephilesChaosTikalGammaMarine to complete Silver's teamThe Koala guard name I forgot, but he keeps being featured in Sonic Channel art with BlazeZeena to complete Zavok's teamRest of the Deadly SixAriemMaria RobotnikGerald RobotnikBlack DoomShahraMerlinaLanolinJewelBelleSurgeKitClutch
I hate sonaze because I'm a fat cocksucking retard
>>587139879To tease him. Something she enjoys doing
>>587141103Sonelise and Sonadow are unironically better
>>587141175said no one ever
>>587137996SEXSEX WITH OCs!
>>587141008Amy...
sonelise has always been kino
>>587141052>>587141586No i just dislike (You)
every other show or movie i have seen, if someone is called "bestie" it's offensive if they have a crush, but amy was okay with it?
Ladies, ladies, there is enough room in the ocean for every ship
Fun Sonic the Hedgehog facts:You can like ships that don't have much basis while >1. Accepting that it doesn't need to be canon>2. Attempting to keep the personalities intact
>>587142338En dubs wording just don't make it clear that sonic shuts down her automatically(without her even needing to say it) so sonazefags are under the impression that people at sega actually like the ship and be annoying about it, that's the issue. JP fanbase doesn't take this ship seriously because it is abundantly made clear sonic will never romantically like her
*tap*>and now for our beloved turkish soap opera... Sonaze: Flames Of Passion*tap*>...shadamy*tap*>...sonadow*tap*>*moanings of sex*ANOOOOOOON, is there anything on this TV that is not shipping? Go fix the antenna dish you lazy bum, i wanna watch the rat wrestling...
>>587142528westfags had decades of archie to trick them into thinking sonic would fuck every girl they do
>>587141064Gardon has literally never been playable. Why would that mean he's "missing"
>>587142598I mean it's not even about the wind, a lot of the japanese fanbase thinks sonic does like amy romantically like it's just a fact of series rather than it being a shipfag thing, part of why they don't have sonaze there.it's not just archiefagging, eng dubs word choice is weird compared to how japanese portrays their relationship.
>>587141631Why does he act like this in that 06 scene? If this came out today people would scream from hilltops about how ooc it is
The amount of blatant samefagging that happens on here nowadays is so bad that im starting to have trouble figuring out who is who. It doesn't help that some of you try to act like other anons.
>>587142753Good. Youll have to work harder
>>587142710Gardon is not a character but worldbuilding, literally same design as all sameface koala NPC
>>587142753>implying you knew whos who before
>>587142753I keep trying to tell you faggots that someone is running gayops on here and for some fucking reason a few of the anons are playing cover for him. I have no idea why they are encouraging this behavior.
People that obsess over namefags and accuse others of being them are the worst posters
tails and blaze should be bullied
I miss Korean Infinite poster
We need Marine for Team Silver!We need Zeena for Team Zavok!
>>587142528English dubs, and the headcanons that come from those English dubs, are a big part of why these characterization arguments and ship arguments are so vicious. If you look at what the JP fanbase ships, you'll notice differences pretty quickly. Sonaze is close to nonexistent over there, because the JP dialogue of Rush doesn't give them as much to latch onto. Shadamy has some JP fanart, but it's noticeably much less popular than it is in the West. Shadouge fanart is also less noticeable in Japan compared to the West, but it still has more of a Japanese following than Shadamy does. Japs are always going for the same few pairs for a reason. Sonamy, Silvaze, Shadria, Knuxouge to an extent. The exceptions would be fujo ships like Sonadow and Sonknux and Mephilver, those exist because fujos in both the West and the East just want hot boys to kiss.
>>587142856That doesnt mean hes missing or you can literally put Unleashed npcs on this list
>>587143238Marine sure most people agree on that enoughZeena why her? Just cause girl? Zavok is power sure but what is Zazz? What would Zeena be? Zik would be a better speed type than both of them. Also, SRC doesnt care about the three-man teams anymore, so we could just have all 6.
>>587142572You can not change the channel of life.
>>587143371But i can turn the tv off.
>>587143489Aint no other king in this rap thing like siblings, nothing but my children one shot they disappearing
>>587143243Crossworlds had dialogue in english that's kinda flirty for rouge and blaze from sonic that isn't in japanese, that's too recent, i am not sure how would the damage be fixed.
>>587143519Stop talking in nigger i don't understand anything.
>>587142752no idea, it caught me offguard when i first played the game too
>>587143238I don't think they ever had the intention of making marine relevant even if silver team stayed but i think due to recent complaints and silver/blaze stuff being started to be removed slowly from marketing i think team dimensions might go away too. it's technically just the ai racers so it's not past no-return
>>587142752Are you all babies? People SCREECHED that Sonic having romance in 06 was ooc when it came out.
>>587143752People screeched about a lot of things in 06 including fucking humans and the kiss scene. It has been impossible to parse valid criticism from the shitty youtuber-tier criticism
I remember watching Great Clement's review and he legitimately started arguing that romance was a mario thing and it goes against Sonic's character. 2000s gamefags had a whole different mindset than today.
>>587143527- Write the games in Japanese first- Find a localizer who is not involved in the Sonic fandom, has a basic grasp on/interest in JP culture, and is not obsessed with social politics.
>>587143606Dead in the middle of Little Italy little did we know that riddle two middle men that didn’t do diddley.
>Getting a job at sega to shill my personal headcanon and canonize everything OOC.
>>587143873Yeah but that's not going to happen and the crossowrld instances are unfortunately too recent to handwave.
>>587143873>Find a localizer who . . . is not obsessed with social politics.They don't exist.
>>587143957The only thing stopping Evan from doing this is she doesn't like being bullied by Silverfags
>>587144105She's probably a masochist then, because she keeps doing it anyway.
The scene with Sonic actively trying to hold onto Blaze when they were being split and Blaze reaching back at him would be enough to ship them, even if they no homo’d each other at every point beforehand.
>>587143957katie...
>>587144225Yet the eastern fanbase doesn't care about that scene, and it's less shipping that's the issue but western sonazefags thinking they have validity then act agressive to other characters or ships for no reason.
>>587143957Fowler has been doing this for seven fucking years and got away with it just because he used live and learn
I AM ALL OF ME
Sonic and elise is not really ooc since he fucks off at the end and isn't even really flirting with her
bake the bread
>>587144358Fowler doesn't push Archie headcanons into the movies, is glad to work with SoJ and listens to their suggestions without complaint, doesn't make every single character an alphabet soup flag-waving faggot, doesn't push his personal politics online, never ran a podcast where he complained about the canon characterizations, and remains respectful and professional.
>>587143310>Zeena why?Was cut and unused for the Olympic games, got added to mobile slop and a Sonic Channel artwork featured her as the main focus.
>>587143310Zeena would be my dick type.
sniff sniff sniff lanolin's armpit pussy
I could bake if no one wants to…
>>587145768>>587145768>>587145768
>>587145386bake a sonadow thread
>>587121659The boost is openly saying that they hate you, stupid
