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>News, Dev Blogposts & Podcast
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/

>Patch Notes
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-november-2/2360696/10

>Talent Calculator
https://wowforevertalents.com/


Previous >>587127074
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>I'm being left behind
It's so over bros
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>tfw you rolled alliance on rppvp
>its only got 16k alliance
>40% of the pop
>nobody in the dungeon finder launch week
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>finally got into horde on the NA Pvp ruleset
>make a tauren shaman
>get a bag on my second bird kill
Yup, it's a sign. Comfy Alchemist shaman.
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I'm going to play a prot warrior on pve. Not very familiar with WoW but I've played MMOs so I know how tanking works. Anything I should know specifically for dungeons, any guides I can look up for routes? Since I'll be using group finder
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>>587144721
>wanted to play on pvp
>Retarded friends go NOOOO WE CANT ASMONGOLDS THERE (he's on the fucking pve server)
>they go to the rotting ass dead rp pvp server
>I don't want to RP
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>>587144817
It's not that hard. Just read what your abilities do and test them out.
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is it cringe to name all my characters with the same first name and different last names
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>>587144817
just say you are new to the game. you hold all the power as the tank.
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playing protection warrior, but playing tank feels very exhausting, I didn't expect it to be this bad. Fishing or leveling other professions is more fun
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Why would you use the SD models instead of the HD models? That's dumb
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>>587144917
It's cringe to name your characters.
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I love collecting a bunch of raw mats and undercutting the price gougers on AH. I don't even care about the money.
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Isn't prot warrior like really good for leveling?
How is it exhausting? Is it because of the low IQ parties?
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https://x.com/YangEndGame/status/2119276609597542678
this chink has 2500 gold already
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>>587145037
dont really care about it. never zoomed in far enough for it to be noticable.
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>>587145078
very simple: That anon is an idiot
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Well Rested and Talented or Thrill of the Adventure?
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NEED
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>>587145163
the only that gives you health/mana per kill
extra rested exp is useless
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>>587145120
literally how did he do it so it can be patched
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>>587145242
Well Rested leads into Talented though
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>>587145120
This is what's possible when you're born to a race without souls.
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>>587145285
you wont have that until youre multiple alts deep where it doesnt matter
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does blizzard really allow the restedxp guys to sell an addon?

feels very not-tos
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>>587144881
just ERP, you have all the qualifications for it
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For me, it's Alexstrasza.
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>>587145361
what i fail to understand is why people buy it in the first place.
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>>587145361
ye people have been seething for like 5 years now and it's not banned
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>>587145443
It's extremely effective
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Is Plainsrunning kind of really bonkers, or am I just a retard?
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WHY THE FUCK ARE THERE SO MANY HORDE IN LOCH MODAN
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>>587145604
enjoy the pvp server experience sir
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>>587145361
apparently the work around is they're not selling an addon. the addon is free. they're selling a guide.
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>>587145443
see:
>>587144636
>>587144792
>>587144979
>>587145523
It's popular
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>>587142801
>Priest second lowest in group play
>Priest lowest for solo play
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>>587145548
yes
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Can someone please help me, I'm going crazy over this shit. If I use an emote, like /wave, it'll emote at the nearest NPC if I have nothing targeted.
If I try and cast a spell, like Power Word: Shield or Fortitude, it'll try and and target an NPC if I have nothing targeted. So if I try and cast Shield, it'll be trying to cast it on some cunt rather than myself (even though I'm not targeting anything), meaning I have to alt-cast everything. And I look like a retard waving at random NPCs instead of just doing the emote.

Been searching for a solution but can't find whatever is causing this shit.
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>>587145645
loch modan isn't contested so alliance should be fine?
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>>587145645
anon loch modan is an alliance zone
even on a pvp server you cant get ganked there

>>587145690
they heal fine but dont help their group kill any faster so all other healers are preferred, and solo theyre depressing pathetic wandbots until 40

so yeah, priest is pretty shit
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>>587145078
I'll be honest, I'm probably just lazy. The constant fight to keep the aggro on me, leading the group through the dungeon, especially if its' a long one always makes me want to do something else instead.
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give me elf paladinnnnnnns
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>no Northrend and therefore no Grizzly Hills
No thanks.
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>>587145875
granted
new race: elf
they look like ogres
can only play paladin
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It's Sunday, no wowf until you get back from church.
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Ewwww anon, you rolled on the PVE server? Cuh-riiiinge!!!
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>>587145784
>they heal fine but dont help their group kill any faster so all other healers are preferred
The hell are you talking about? Priests are the only healer that can wand during healing downtime. Or is this some high degree of parse niggerdom that I cannot even comprehend?
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>>587145875
monkey paw: It's the p2w donut steel elf
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>>587145875
Elves shouldn't be allowed to be paladins. Too slutty, too impure.
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>>587145707
ok never mind, I may have found a solution. Apparently the addon that keeps sparkles on quest items for some fucking reason messes with a cvar related to targeting. A recent solution is to download another addon so you can manually disable that option.
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Why is no one on horde side grouping up for kill X quests? First I thought it was just the PvP autism but even on PvE everyone prefers just fighting over tags and wasting everyone's time despite me trying to invite them?
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>>587145667
Jeef has been doing it for years with HS Deck Builder and Blizz never says anything.
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I'm spending more time worrying I rolled in a dead ruleset on RP PvP than actually playing, the LFG tool is absolutely empty
I don't want to roll on a soulless non RP ruleset though
Is RP PvE any better?
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Rate classes from hard mode to easy mode
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>£26 for Skyborne
Blizzkike!
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priest leveling is so much fun bros no other class feels this good
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>>587146293
>wand
>wand
>wand
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>>587146164
Blizzard only cares what happens in Hearthstone if you make the claim that HK should be politically independent
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when you're fucking around at level 35
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>>587146293
Stockholm syndrome is a hell of a drug...
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>>587145989
I have already made my peace with the likely fact that all new races will be paywalled
this is a lightweight monkey paw!
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>>587146209
rppve is smaller but the balance favors alliance
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>>587146209
Well there's about 15 people listed in the LFG thing for Deadmines + Wailing Caverns (though nobody wants to do WC because it's shit (also I'm Alliance)).

So about a dozen people actively wanting to do Deadmines right now. Not too bad for 8am I guess, especially considering dad-gamers are probably averaging level 15 or so.
t. RP-PvE EU
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What's the appropriate response if your friend invites his gf to the guild and they spend all their time just leveling duo? Sickens me watching them come online and never join a party to meet or help.
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>>587146293
I'm trying to power through I'm losing steam and thinking of trolling at level 30
It's not even the slow kill times, it's the complete lack of any sort of movement speed making it such a demoralizing slog while everyone just outruns me and saves so much time
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>>587146023
I've been watching this video on repeat
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/iKJxwsDTFqE
the salute is magnificent and the music+water+footsteps soothe me immensely
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>>587145212
Satyr women owe me sex
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any warriorbros here?

How's forever feel for the protagonist class?
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>>587146338
>>587146382
there’s just a rhythm to priest that no other class hits for me. it helps that i’m a nelf so i have starsharts to obliterate a mob every 30s. i just really like priest.
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>roll ally and hit 30
>run the ashenvale -> tanaris gauntlet for fps with track humanoid on to dodge the zerg
>feels like 10/90 """balance""" already
>delete level 30 and get past horde faction lock in 10 minutes of trying (thought reddit was crying about this being impossible?)
>just hit 14 on my windshaper
god i hate mudhutters i fucking hate mudhutters so much i'm staying in tb forever
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>warrior
>protag class
>IQs can actually go that low
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this is the worst priest leveling experience in any classic-era/classic-style server ever
because you cannot actually healbot for randoms and level up from healing, which is the only thing the class does in pve, including its stupid fucking shadow spec which is still just a meme in 5 man content
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>>587146209
BUT MUH GROBBULUS!! REDDIT TOLD IT WILL BE KINO

you know why devs didn't want to make it lmao
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>>587146448
yeah i don’t really have an answer to that desu
i don’t mind the walking i just put on autorun and chill
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>>587146520
>things that didn't happen
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is priest really so shit to level up?
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I ran to the skyborne starting area as a paladin at level 1, not realizing there isn't a trainer here
am I fucked?
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>>587146683
Always was until WOTLK
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>>587146683
>Cast shield
>Cast shadow word pain
>Wand until enemy dies
Good if you have an audiobook
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>>587146683
priest is one of the best levelers
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>>587146683
no it’s very cozy. i’m constantly juggling 2-3 mobs with dots and mind blast/starshards. there’s a lot of wanding, but wand progression is super easy so you’re really strong most of the time. then at 20 you get DP for even more dots, and at 32 you’ll have swp. then 40 respec to shadow and chill.
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Any priestbros? what's the play for leveling
Still spirit tap + wand spec then throw points wherever until 40 then respec shadowform?

I haven't really looked at the forever changes and exclusive stuff. If there's something that lets me be really strong in dungeon groups as a healer that doesn't cuck my solo/questing speed I'd love to do that
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>>587146683
>1-5 is fine
>pain
>pain
>get my first wand at level 14 (blue quest reward from Hall of Thanes)
>also get a bunch of upgrades from Tailoring
>everything is great
>reach level 20, gear is no longer carrying me, dungeons are a one-time deal
>PAIN
I don't know, it's just slow and rather boring. Mostly looking forward to 40, for dual spec and Shadowform. And mounts. What a level.
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>roll RPPVP server
>get mongoloids who chat with drivel like "grp plz plz plz wat u doing"
>see retarded non-RP names and need to keep reporting them
FUCK OFF TO REGULAR SERVERS YOU MOUTHBREATHERS
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>>587146683
priest is good, warrior is worse
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>finish tanking the dungeon
>the healslut tries to get on my nuts unsolicited (I have a TRP but it's not erp worthy or provocative at all)
>report them and leave without a word

Listen man I know you're just a thirsty ugly tranny or fag. It might have worked 10 years ago, but now you made everyone in the world hate you by being annoying as fuck since then, so I'm not going to let you suck my digital dick anymore.
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>>587146860
I told you fuckers this would happen, Reddit wanted to force another "Grob" meme and normies just want another PvP realm
RP-PvP was a mistake
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oh so that's why tanks don't like to invite other mail/plate wearers to their runs. what a humiliation ritual that was
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>>587145152
You are an idiot
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>>587146948
yeah lol, I only bring my friends if they are also plate
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>>587146928
Yeah I clearly made a huge mistake. Which is interesting because in 2019 classic the RP-PVP was great, dont remember this many idiots.
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>>587146842
for talents i would go
>wand spec
>spirit tap -> imp swp
>twin disciplines down to meditation and imp pws, then just make sure you get penance and fill the rest as disc however you want
>respec at 40
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>>587146842
yes
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where do you level at 35
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>>587146683
It's easy to level, it's just excruciatingly boring and straightforward. You used to be able to break that up with bouts of dungeon healing and earn a bit of exp/socialize/make friends who would need you to heal for them in the future.

But now dungeons dont give exp, so its just wanding forever and maybe once every 5 levels you do a dungeon for quests.
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>Playing with a friend and some of his friends.
>I have a job 20 hours a week, which apparently is too much time wasted for some of them
>Keep telling them they can play without me I'm fine with it
>They keep refusing and fucking complaining that I'm not on 24/7 and I'm holding them back
Why wont these retards take the fucking hint and just play without me? I couldn't have been more clear, I'm sick of being chained to them anyway
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Are there any based chuddish gamer bro guilds on EU PVE Alliance?
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Bring these mats with you to Riverglades for more XP
Outdoor quests -
10 x Chunk of Boar Meat
10 x Heavy Weightstone

Dungeon quest from Krol'dok -
12 x Iron Bars
4 x Thick Leather
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Is tanking less miserable in Forever versus Classic? I hated it in the latter so I stopped playing.
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Anyone on RP PvE on EU?
Is it good or should I just go NA instead? I remember moonguard NA being much more populated than argent dawn EU
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>>587147145
yeah it's way easier/better in forever
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>>587147028
>>587147029
How hard do you get fucked if you just keep going into disc or disc>holy instead of respeccing?
bad enough that I'd want to kms outside of dungeons from 40>60?
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>>587147146
RP EU is dead because too many different languages and not enough population to support decent community size of all of them. If you want that rp server vibe just play on NA.
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>>587147146
I'm liking it so far on EU, very nice people and very well populated it seems. I do wish RP-PvP wasn't a thing, I fear some zones might get a bit dead half a year from now with the current population split and eventual decline, but for now it's good.
First time on an RP realm, feels so much friendlier.
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What if every class got one or two special race-specific abilities like priest does. Would that be fucked up or what.
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>>587147262
you need wand spec and imp life tap
if you are going to be leveling in a party of any type, then going all the way down to vamp embrace is a good idea, because you can use it to keep life tap up without having to get the killing blow yourself
perma uptime on life tap is probably the best quality of life for a healer you can get anywhere on any tree
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>>587147273
Stop talking about things you know nothing of.
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just made a horde on the pvp server that i will NEVER play
it's just gonna take up a slot and help towards a faction lock
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>>587147262
i don’t know. i don’t think it would be that bad if you got the smite damage talents, but it would be significantly slower than shadow for sure. shadow with shadow form pops off.
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>>587147378
I know exactly what I'm talking about you shit eating peasant. RP pve EU server size is fucking tiny in every iteration of the game that has had it.
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>>587147343
As a Priest I was wondering the same thing earlier actually. Race is so important, there's so much agency to it. For other classes it's just a +1% DPS vs +1.5% DPS, or purely personal preference.

But that'd be a nightmare to balance I'm sure, and we'd end up with another "every Priest goes Dwarf because of Fear Ward being so good" but for like 5 classes.

>>587147432
You haven't even played RP on EU you nigger, so stop talking about things you have no experience with.
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>>587147392
This is based. If you need to AFK be sure to log on and just loiter at level 1 in orgrimasristan
>>587147397
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>>587147392
based
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Any other gooners multi tasking while levelling?
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Is there a way to disable other players' fishing sounds in Forever? I looked into it and apparently it was disabled in Retail years ago.
I keep fucking reeling in too early because some assholes are fishing next to me
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why all taurens black?
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>>587147484
see
>>587147432

you retarded shitgibbon
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is this blocked off path by cragpool lake new?
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>>587147542
I draw my nelf in spare time
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>>587145962
this child needs correction badly
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>>587147589
>see the exact post I just responded to
You're not a smart one, are you. You haven't even played Forever's RP realm so stop talking as an authoritative figure on it
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>>587147576
Because they're BVLLS.
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Any femboy guild on EU PVP Alliance?
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>>587147661
She's a 40 year-old woman you weirdo. Smarter than you too I bet, so stop talking down to her. Know your place.
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>>587147484
It could be small utility gimmicks just to give a little bit of identity. Night Elf hunters could summon spirit owl scout like in WC3 for example, or... That's the only idea I had turns out.
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>>587147761
No gays allowed.
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>>587144881
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>>587147792
Brats like her need to choke on cock and beg for forgiveness
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I got ganked till I had a 5 minute res timer on my warrior in stv. Then I spirit res intending to leave the zone. Then I got 1 shot at the spirit res with rez sickness because of course a hordie is camping it also, to catch the people giving up on getting their bodies back.

I ask in zone chat to group up with other people and everyone says the same thing that they are getting camped at the spirit rez also.

So...gg I guess. Can't even go do dungeons to level up.
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>>587147896
>even gets bullied in videogames
Kek!
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>>587144995
An ele shaman rolled need on healing item in my last group. As the healer, I told the group to kick him, or I was leaving. He immediately gave me the item. Also I’m trans if that matters.
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Yep, that's why PvP in WoW (and any MMO really) is complete aids.
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>>587147712
see
>>587147432

you're an autistic ESL sperg faggot, which is one of the reason why eu rp sucks ass, because autism + non native english speakers trying to RP winds up sounding incredibly fucking shitty and lacking in personality
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dude is that from pandaria
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where the fuck do i go lvl after duskwood? i will hit lvl 31 now when i finish it and i know stv i can maybe do 3 quests at most. arathi highlands is too high. wetlands can suck cock.
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PvP or RP-PvP?
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>>587147976
Good for you. I hope life will treat you well and you'll find joy
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>>587140101
it's great huh
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>>587147896
lmao
are u on horde or alliance?
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>>587148004
deepest lore... early foreshadow.... turtles all the way down...
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>>587148004
It's from warcraft 2
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>ask someone if I should play pvp or rp-pvp
>rpvp
>why?
>uhmm grob 2 grob 2 imagine missing grob 2

yeah see you on pvp
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>>587148056
Alliance? Either
Horde? lol, rppvp is 80% alliance 20% horde. And you cant make a horde on the non rp pvp server.
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>>587147995
>you're an autistic ESL sperg faggot
Getting desperate...

>rambles about autism and foreign people, can't back up original arguments, can't refute having not even played it
I accept your concession.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Bl6gav2Ofg
now that wow forever is dead, what is next for blizzar?
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>>587148251
>autistic sperg esl faggot thinks we are having a heckin debate
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>>587148324
You're casting a very wide net
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Play Rogue they said
It's been buffed they said
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Is having severe emotional and mental problems a prerequisite for playing MMOs?
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>>587148426
its dogshit we wait for next fresh brother
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Every warlock spells needs to have its damage doubled.
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>>587148324
Sounds fun anon
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>>587147542
Not going to lie, I've been thinking about it constantly... What is the best class for gooning on the side while leveling?
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Investment bros, what's good to stock up on now that'll make a profit
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>>587148458
It's not required but it's helps connecting with others. Speaking with utmost confidence about topics you know nothing about should be enough, although you should also consider some crippling fear of commitment.
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>>587148480
No anon, it's NORMAL CLASSIC WOW to spend 30 seconds killing 1 mob! You didn't effortlessly fear-juggle 2 or 3 mobs at a time in vanilla while managing your life and mana. You were just imagining that! So you better heckin get to wanding! That's NORMAL CLASSIC WOW WARLOCK STUFF! 1 mob at a time, and dont you fucking forget to health funnel to your poor voidwalker! Everyone who played classic wow knows how fragile they are!
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>>587148480
the class fantasy is so strong for warlocks, but I am always surprised by how few people play it. Do raids want them for anything except damage at 60?
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>>587148597
black mageweave leggings
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>>587148619
>you should also consider some crippling fear of commitment.
Finally, that flaw becomes a virtue.
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>>587148629
warlocks are a necessity in raids for soul stone, banish, summons, curse of elements

thing is, you only need 1 or 2
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>>587148629
A class may strongly embody a particular fantasy but that doesn't mean it's a fantasy that lots of people have
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>"De biggest launch ever"(yeah even bigger than WotLK with its 10 millions)
>megaserver
>no queues few days after release
>general chat is barely moving
>LFG search barely fills up
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>World of Warcraft: Stillborn
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>paladin
>better tank than warrior
>better dps than warrior
>can heal
>far stronger leveler
>has like 4 life bars in pvp IN ADDITION to more damage
literally what is the fucking point of warrior in forever? not being facetious.
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reddit crying NON STOP about dungeon xp nerfs for 2 days.

will blizzard cave in?
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the new area in tirisfal is pretty neat
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>>587148823
General chats are layered
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>>587148823
had no problem instant finding group for dungeons. even did 2 runs of stockade for all to loot bandanas since drop chance is shit
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>>587148920
hopefully. the change is dogshit
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>>587148931
so is trade, but it actually shows you which layer it is for some reason and inviting people to your group doesnt get them into your trade shard
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>>587148778
It may be counterintuitive since you need to commit to play an MMO long term, but the crippling fear of commitment will aid you on your journey. Thanks to it you will make ten alts, giving yourself plenty of content to play, leave groups as soon as possible, avoid speaking to other players, and of course fear of commitment will be your safeguard against any interesting hobbies, relationships or interests outside of game which could distract you from leveling your 11th alt.
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If you're still on RP-PvP you're missing out on Forever. It's that simple. Nothing more, nothing less.
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DKs are my favourite class in the game. I really hope they come back in some form in the future of Forever.
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we are ALL playing Alliance RP-PVP!
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Fuck all the retards who convinced me mage would be better than hunter.
Just saw ONE hunter. Solo a defias mine in westfall while I'm over here drinking water after every mob fight like a fucking KEK.

I'm rerolling as a hunter. Fuck everyone who went.
>but muh portals bro. muh portals.
>the sustain is real maan. you just conjure your own food and water.
>AOE farming bro. you gotta level until you unlock.

I knew mage was fucked as a class as soon as I bought a wand and realized wanding a mob 3 times is more dps efficient then waiting for the channel cost on a bolt spell.

Again,

Fuck all of you retard idiots. As soon as I hit a good level. I'm rolling with other horde gank parties to fuck over every mage I see.
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>>587147576
Taurenplayers yearn for the Grimtotem to take over and kick out the Green Niggers
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>>587149086
Is that a-???
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>>587148920
yeah blizzard will cave, the dungeon exp nerf was too heavy handed and hurts the wrong people while trying to combat the issue of boosting/living in dungeons
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>>587148920
some actual toddler shit from some of these complaints.

>i want to heal my friends in dungeon spam
>now that dungeons have exp massively reduced blizzard is literally forcing me to grind mobs in the open world in heal spec
>no i am not gonna spec out of the healing spec
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>>587149103
Okay? Nice blogpost anon truly contributed here.
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Any addon that fishes for me automatically

I don’t wanna press a button for 150+ times
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Alliance warrior level 19 and redridge is too hard for me :(

Where else should I go to level?
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no seriously...where the fuck do i go level as alliance at level 30
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>>587148885
>>has like 4 life bars in pvp IN ADDITION to more damage
Warrior is a far more oppressive class to have attached to your ass than a ret paladin what with all the hamstrings, constant pummels and a healing received debuff that is undispellable.
A warrior is a huge stop-sign to any shammy or feral that's running roughshod over your team's casters and a ret can't fulfill that role.
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>>587149103
judging classes by their performance at low level is extreme midwit shit

I also don't know how low level you had to be, but I saw mages as soon as they had arcane explosion, solo farming gnoll camps in westfall to aoe level.
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>>587148920
Yes once they will see the number of times people run the same dungeon.
Imagine making new dungeons only for people to run them once and never touch them again.
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>>587149247
all are legit complaints, are you retarded or something? people would just run dungeons for fun ever without quests since the exp was ok. now no one runs them after the first run. some people cba getting quests and skip them entirely
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>>587149313
i think Forever Fishing is the comfiest option we've got, you press the addon button and it auto equips your fishing gear and then all you have to do is press space button to cast the rod and space again to reel it in when you hear the sound
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Ahmpy just did a quest where a broken draenei opens a portal to outlands to send people back and mobs from outlands come through it

Who knew it was that easy, guldan wasnt necessary
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its weird to me that the proud-to-be-retarded zoomer
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>>587149086
It's true.
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>>587149425
I got that already but I still have to press a button.
It’s tedious af
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>>587146209
PvE is smaller but very alive past few days. Looks like lots of new players because pvp lockdowns?
Horde needs more healers and tanks. Every dungeons, my hunter got groups together under 10 min.
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>>587149313
>I don’t wanna press a button for 150+ times
You sure picked the wrong hobby.
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>>587149247
These "healer mains" are not serious people. They are mad they cant AFK to 60 while the tank and dps do the heavy lifting.
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>>587149486
fully automated options will get you banned unfortunately, i doubt there's anything better
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>>587149428
>streamer did a thing and...
kill yourself
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>>587148885
>>587149349
Don’t forget overpower raping rogues. Or just disarming them for maximum confusion lol.
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IM SO FUCKING BROKE ON GOD

people are selling sub lvl 15 gear for almost a gold what the hell
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i love getting stuck on the same quest for 30 minutes because the drop rate is so abysmally fucking low
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>>587149572
its a perfectly valid complaint for a mmo that features a trifecta of archetypes

blizzard will cave

pve dungeon running fans are core audience
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>>587148823
>over 1 million twitch viewers
>over 1 million CONCURRENT players
>over 15 million monthly subs

forlo won. cope.
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I'm having fun as Alliance on the NA RP-PVP server. The visible pop issue appears pretty much solved now after whatever they tweaked with layering. There were big wpvp raids in redridge today on both sides.
Still seeing ppl fade away into nothing when a zone boundary is crossed tho.
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>>587149314
Loch Modan is a bit easier in my opinion sis
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why there are three threads
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>>587149695
>blizzard will cave

Yeah probably. I much prefer questing in any case, so I don't really have a stake in this discussion, but the complaints specifically from "healer mains" is so silly. By far the easiest role of the three and these motherfuckers are clearly just mad they cant AFK anymore.
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>>587149825
so we can have three times as much gender and race politics discussion
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Aggnerd

Why are there still 2 stable pets?

I thought you promised more slots
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>>587149865
>By far the easiest role
it doesn't matter if its easy you retarded nigger, its all easy, its a video game
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thiunking about getting a naga for wow
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>>587149915
Cat is the only one you need
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>>587149670
Skinning and minining/herb as you level your first character is always the play untill you have some starting cash.
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AI addon is kino
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ALEXENSUAL RUNS THIS GENERAL + ALEXENSUAL OWNS THIS GAME
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>can use all 3 of the start potions you can make with alchemy at the same time
JESSIE, WE HAVE TO COOK MAN!
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I can't do Ruins of Lordaeron at lvl 25 can I?
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>>587150091
but everything is prices at vendor prices there’s zero incentive to farm and sell on ah
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>>587150230
sure but it wont exactly be worth it, in regards to quest exp or dungeon loot.

it's a fun dungeon though
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People leaving dungeons when their quests are done is an epidemic.

Three dungeons today. One of the group members started the dungeon with their quest almost done like 9/10 of their quest item or whatever. Got their drop and bailed, screwing over the rest of the group. Three times this happened. This is infuriating!!!!

But I can't really blame them. This was their second or, heaven forbid, third run. They are over it I'm sure. The experience is terrible and it makes the rest of dungeon a complete and utter waste of time.

I'm furious at the devs for not seeing the domino effect of their philosophy change when it comes to dungeon experience. I am not saying that dungeons need exp back. I am saying that they need to make it so that EVERY DUNGEON QUEST IS COMPLETE IN ONE FULL RUN.

Not to mention how stupidly immersion breaking it is for a quest giver to give us a quest to go to a place and collect or kill more things than the place contains. Like they know it's instanced and we can go out and reset the instance.

If you want to herd us out of the dungeons, fine. Just finish the job. Make it so that we don't have to go back in for a couple quest drops or this is going to be par for the course.
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>>587149967
Nah cat can’t dash. Boar is great. But I want more slots
They literally said they’re gonna increase slots yet they didn’t
How am I to catch my Pokémon pets if I got two fucking slots at the stable
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>>587150254
it's free silver. you just gather it and vendor it. mining is a bit more profitable since you can sell raw ore or bars
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anything I can start farming while I quest/level in the 30+ range to maximize the chance I'll be able to have my mount by 40?
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>>587150254
Worse case scenario you vendor it, but at least on Eu PvE you get something like 60 copper for a copper ore right now, compared to like 5 copper for selling it to a vendor. The hyper spawns also mean there are plenty of dead beasties to skin.
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I can't think of a good name for my hunter. Thoughts on this? Wonder if they chinese will get it or if all of them are bots now.
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>>587150335
JAVELS GYM BRAPPER!
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How do I get Honored with the Skyborne faction so my mount is 10% off? They don't have any zones or quests after level 12.
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I've been out of the wow RP loop for awhile. The new hot tag for degens I haven't seen before now is "MDNI" or "Minors Do Not Interact", which seems to be the new way to virtue signal to other gay retarded ERPers that you are more gay and retarded than others without the tag.

I wonder if they think that warning on their ERP addon will save them from the unlubed cock of consequences if somebody reports them after the fact?
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do ppl buy low level greens on the AH at a decent price or should I just vendor them
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>>587150550
Usually just vendor them. Maybe if they have good stats but right now theres too much stuff on there for it to really matter.
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>>587150492
I think you are extremely autistic, and whatever you name yourself won't matter since you are not going to interact with other people anyways.
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>>587144506
Seems like the OP mysteriously forgot to mention the guilds so let me correct him
It happens

>NA guilds
<Clover Club> RP-PvP Alliance
<FUN HAVERS> PvE Alliance
<You Have To Go Back> PvP Horde
<Daybreak Company> RP-PvE Alliance

>EU Guilds
<Wrench> PvE Horde
<FRESH> PvP Alliance

>How to join a guild
Type /who g-"Guild Name" to see who is online and whisper anyone.
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>>587150313
this issue is also downstream from the megaservers having no community problem. There are so many players you may never see this dude again, so he feels no hesitation in just dipping when he has what he came for. He does not need to worry about getting into a group in the future because of his behavior now.
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>>587150528
mdni has been a thing for a long time just not in rp spaces
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>>587150596
heavy projection
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whats wrong with the sharting on ashenvale it's rampacked to fuck, do i just skip this zone.
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>>587149812
You a gem babe
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>bitches about there being too many layers and the game feeling dead
>bitches about how there aren’t enough layers and there are too many players around
Lmfao you niggas are so pathetic, did you want the classic mmorpg experience or not
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can my boar learn claw and bite?
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>>587150841
Birds summon sucks
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So what's the most FUN class and spec in Forever?

No, not BEST class and spec, most FUN you fucking NIGGER
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Why did they remove the LocalDefense message popups so you know where shits happening?
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>>587150841
BIRDS IS ASS CUZ U CANT USE ARCANME SHOT
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I really miss running dungeons. It was by far the most enjoyable way to level. Fucking sucks you get zero XP from just running them now. Also have no idea how healers are supposed to level, especially without dual spec. I hate Activision Blizzard so much its unreal
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>>587151087

Activision doesn't own Blizzard anymore.
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>>587151135
I suppose technically, because Activision never owned Blizzard. They merged
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>>587151263
Activision merged with Vivendi Universal, forming Activision-Blizzard, which owns Blizzard Entertainment.
Microsoft acquired Activision-blizzard, which still owns Blizzard Entertainment. It's just that ActiBlizz is now owned by somebody else where it was its own corporte Overlord first.

You two are stupid niggers.
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>>587151039
Enh shaman for windfury casino
Spriest (pvp) for blackout casino
No I don't have a gambling problem
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>>587151135
>>587151263
>>587151357

So what I'm getting from this is that Microsoft needs to be broken up uunder antitrust laws as a monopoly.
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Rolling RP-PVP was the best idea ever
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>>587150879
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I have both addons pirated but which is better, zygors or rested?

I've been using zygors and while it seems effective there's a lot of jump between continents for 1 level.
Bonus points if one doesn't do the lolgrindmobs for a level meme halfway through.
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hunter bros

cat with growl claw bite dash for leveling bad or good
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just give us nightmare incursions or something this is trash
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>>587151418
no, thats communism
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>>587151418
That is why the acquisition of ActiBlizz took so long and why it went through so many international courts.
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>>587150278
I want to do it for the legacy point but I don't think any group will have me if I'm lvl 26 because I'll ruin their exp
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For the first time since the mid 2000's, I am logging off of wow because I got camped too hard. I legit cannot find an area to do quests in that wasn't a total fucking zerg steamroll.

Even if alliance band together, it will just mean a denser cloud of targets for the horde zerg. This shit is straight up malicious.
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>>587151598
legacy cheevos are account wide you can make a horde alt to get completion for that dungeon
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>>587151087
>Also have no idea how healers are supposed to level, especially without dual spec

a healer in lvling dungeons is someone playing a class with healing spells, but who is also specced into dps for questing. lvling as "healer spec" is some insane shit to do and the content does not call for it at all.
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>>587151470
staring at this empty lfg and I have to disagree sis
maybe it's an EU thing
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>>587151671
there is nothing insane about trying to level up as a healer, by healing dungeons, in world of warcraft

what is insane is that blizzard bricked their own game for a huge faction of people who enjoy dungeon healing as their primary leveling activity
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Did you burn out yet?
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>>587151862
i'm starting to. I was having fun when I was able to quest. now it's constant fighting for spawns even at level 40+
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>>587151823
whats mad is thinking you need to be in a healer spec to do it and then acting like you are physically incapaple of putting points into your dps tree
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>>587151862
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>>587151707
>maybe it's an EU thing
EU is just dead in general
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what is this bullshit?
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bored
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>>587151915
If you are 40+ now you have played A LOT over the last few days. Maybe that is what causes burn out.
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>riverglades is a level 35-40 zone
>go there at 35
>no quests
erm...
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>>587147053
even if you go out of your way to do dungeons people just don't talk and leave instantly like in retail lol
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I miss draenei
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>>587152019
Level alt
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>>587152026
yea I did, but as I said the problem is that i can't play because of the megaserver shit and spend 1 hour on a single quest. can't run dungeons either because they are shit . the only option is grinding mobs like a chink bot
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Arcane shot seems insane
Feel like re-speccing so i can go MM and get the talents for it
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blast
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfliCNJ8nJI&t=900s
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>>587152048
work in progress, please understand
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>>587151915
This is why i was really annoyed that fags were crying about how "dead the game feels" the first day. Yeah it's nice seeing people around but them going really aggressive on layering was so nice cause minimal competition for mobs or node spawns. Really should have stayed aggressive on layering and slowly tapered out over the first two weeks.
But fags had to cry and now they eased up waaaay too much and now there's too many people around and you can't get shit done.
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Uhm blizzard?
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human male gnome female
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>theres tank and healer shortage!!!!
lol no there isn’t, we’re just making our own groups with no other mail/plate/healer gear people in it so we get all the loot fucking retards
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>random gay nigger complains on leddit the game is dead because there's no one in his shard
>le ebin wholesome chungus Aggrend reduces layers by 90%
>fat fuck also removes hyperspawn
>now the people who didn't aoe grind till 40+ are stuck in zones with vanilla spawn rates but with a population bigger than original classic
>you can't dungeon grind as well

I love how this is playing out. If you aren't level 45+ by now you're absolutely fucked.
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>>587152262
>t. level 15
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>>587152206
did you respec?
there's some bug that you don't lose abilities when you respec or dual spec.
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All the RestedXP guys are 40+ already. I should have listened...
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I get that the devs want to jerk themselves off to articles of how busy wow is but for the love of God can we reduce layer caps already?
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>>587152335
im at 35 and dont use addons.
Just dont be retarded.
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>>587151404
>plague having a cooldown
it's trash
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>>587152363
All the slaves will be back to work on Monday, bubba. Aggrend does not want you to dungeon grind
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>>587152282
i still have hyper spawn on my dead layer
getting my ass kicked
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>>587151934
>mmo famously features trifecta (healer/dps/tank) for its entire history
>healer part of the trifecta is suddenly no longer viable because of an exp balance decision in a new release
>healer autists decide its not worth dealing with and leave, perceiving it as severe mistreatment
>lack of healers becomes issue the higher level you go, and then especially at 60

it will happen, and when it begins to effect you personally, think back to this conversation where you were warned
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Is m still level 13

I am fucking around so so so much

I have 6 silver to my name and my weapon is a level 4 weapon
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>>587152302
>im a retarded shitter so this person must be low level
im level 34 retard, dungeon quests shit out xp
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How is WoW Forever different to Classic, different to that private classic server thing, and different to normal WoW?
Also also, how is WoW versus FF XIV? I'm an MMO newfag, but I tried XIV and while I enjoyed the interesting world, I despised how the groups you were matched with required you to have prerequisite knowledge before doing dungeons. See I play games for the exploration, failure and growth aspects, so for them to say that I need to ruin the best part really killed the game for me.
Is WoW Forever different?
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>>587152425
Doesn't want me to quest either apparently.
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>>587152478
I dont care chink.
Stop selling boosts and gold.
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No one talks about how every campfire is being ruined by the purple dust.
>just turn my comfy orange fire into some weird chemical fire with toxic fumes
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>>587152478
Healer autists are silly people, but I agree with you. Fortunately, my class can fill all 3 roles as needed in lvling dungeons
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>>587152586
Because there are way bigger issues being ignored?
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If you complain about dung nerf XP youre a legit friendless NPC, back in 2019 classic i boosted my low lvl friends at maxcap for hours at a time without any gain, its all about the fun bros
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i don't feel like doing dungeons, i turned into dadgamer and just slowly leveling doing quests
i'm still level 12
holy fuck
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>Blizzard patched out minimap symbols
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>>587152576
>no response so just go full schizo
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>>587152673
lol shitter
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Dude...
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*yawn* This will save the MMO-genre? Heh, more like WoW Forever Questing
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>>587152740
dude right
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>>587152659
>the most challenging content in the game while you are leveling up should not provide character progression, because...

???
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>>587152673
Same just tried to get bite rank 2 from a snapper only to realize it’s 2 levels above me and I put my pet into the stable

So I’m walking all the way back to get it
Then walking the long way to tb from barrens
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there's already (at least) 23 level 60s

you're so far behind
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>>587152075

Draenei are furries.
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>>587152676
ForeverQuestPins on curseforge, you're welcome

>>587152767
Where did i say that? Just because i boosted my friends doesnt mean i said "yeah dungeons should actually net you negative xp and kill your family"
0 reading comprehension skills and brain turned to mush from twitter drama
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>>587152828
who gives a fuck
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>>587152828
raids won't be available for a month. whats the point
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>>587152828
and? You do not get gold anymore at level 60 from quests
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>>587152884
we whine to make them release early or we quit
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>>587152920
scrub
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if youre not already farming your bis youre not getting a raidspot btw.
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>>587144506
Are they doing another maintenance today?
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>>587152828
I'm level 25 and I logged out in a cave full of spiders to make dinner and then fuck my shortstack gook gf. I probably won't log back in till tomorrow. I don't care that I'm not getting rested exp, or that I'm 'behind' a handful of retarded unhealthy autistic faggots.

I played wow on and off for like 20 years. At this point its just a nostalgic activity, and one I am going to take at a slow and meandering pace.
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>>587152884
i get to do it fast and uuuuh fucking complain the game is DOGSHIT on social media and THERES NOTHING to DOO and that WOTLK IS THE BEST XPAC EVURRR
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>>587152828
wait, is this a race?
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>>587150492
Harvey Epstein
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Any add one to protect my poor oled screen from wows ui?
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cant wait for sloppers to wake up
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LEVEL 18 AND PROUD
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I just found out that writ recipes craft BoP items, I'm gonna say based as fuck because now I can actually buy what I need rather than saving for a hypothetical best-to-sell item.
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>>587148426
>>587148472
Rogue is great. I didn't even die until level 17. Sometimes I'd see a druid or priest or even mage in the wild and I was shocked by how long it took them to kill enemies I'd chew thru in seconds one after the next.
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>>587152849
>acktually, nobody ever cared about dungeons for the exp, you are (thing) if you care about getting an experience reward for your effort

shut up nigger, nobody believes that you believe a word you are fucking typing
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Did the patch yesterday kill enh shamans?
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>Want to be a healing officer main since vanilla
>Do first dungeon in forever
>IMMEDIATELY feel worthless because i'm not healing so others may enjoy dpsing instead
Someone gag and cage me til i HEAL
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>>587152847
That's like saying Satan is a furry, or a winged angel.
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>>587153041
this is a lie
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>>587153076
it's coming monday or tuesday
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>>587153108
Join FRESH
Everyone is a healing officer
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>>587153063
>ad hominem in the first seconds
Post your iphone screen time lmao, my point still stands, brain turned to mash from browsing social media ad nauseam
>acktually, nobody ever cared about dungeons for the exp,
where did i say this again lol
> you are (thing) if you care about getting an experience reward for your effort
>effort
>effort in vanilla wow
??? Do you believe vanilla dungeons are challenging? Damn i did not know i get to respond to a tiktok larper! Are you gonna tell me the ICC was the best raid in the game too?
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>>587153193
>everyone on the pvp realm is a caged sissy
yeah i figured
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The new lighting gives me a headache.
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>>587153156
Oh, I thought they were doing it alongside the pet buff yesterday
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so uh.... this ain't surviving wrath anniversary
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i thought classic didnt have button bloat but i have nearly 3 full action bars of stuff and i am not even 40 yet
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how much is dual spec?
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>you have too many pets already

HOKY SHITTTT CAN THEY STREAMLINE TAMING ALREADY
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>>587153305
Classic has tons of buttons but your pve rotation is laughably simple. You won't use 90% of your buttons if you aren't doing pvp.
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>>587152543
bros?
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Do I need to be ERPing genius to play on RP servers?
Always wanted to try RP servers but felt intimidated because I never RPed before
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>you called me a nigger, that means what I said wasn't actually stupid

mm no sweetie, what you said is still retarded, and you are still a retarded nigger
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I will climb there someday...
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I NEED to be in healing spec to heal Ragefire Chasm
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>>587153441
>not a direct you
>still doesn't retort what i said
>passive agressive ad hominem again
Damn, at least pre-covid times i could get good arguements, nowadays zoomies say "nigger" and run to a corner lmfao, twitter tricks dont work here bud you can't press the block button here and claim you won
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Is NA PvP ruleset dead on alliance side?
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Should I make a skelf hunter? Even when Human hunter exists?
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With 12hrs play-time, i'm level 14, i rolled nelf and i'm currently questing in dark shore

Yesterday I didn't even log on.

I think forever is over for me... If I don't log on today and play a lot then the rot will start to set in, the cycle will be hard to break then... I'm just waiting for midnight s3 because I hope the raid will be good, but forever isn't really attracting me in the meantime, leveling is fun, but that's all there is. It's a whole month until the first raid is out, and i can do what, press 2 buttons and wait for the boss do eventually die? Thats it. That is it.
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>>587151523
Cats are the best in the game at least from classic. I would skip on spending energy on growl and just have auto bite on. Assign claw to a key and right after the bite spam claw as much as you want and then let your pet regen energy for the next auto bite. Dash should always be on.

Not sure how it is on forever but basically in classic trying to have your pet hold threat is pointless so using growl is just a waste. The only surefire way to keep mobs on your pet is to not attack at all lmao.
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>>587153535
na pvp alli is alive
dont roll rp-pvp this shit mega dead any side
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ngl this game is trash, you niggas actually like this shit?
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With 1200hrs play-time, i'm level 25, i rolled Femra and i'm currently questing in stormwind

Tommorow I didn't even log on.

I think nwn1 is over for me... If I don't log on today and play a lot then the rot will start to set in, the cycle will be hard to break then... I'm just waiting for dawntrail because I hope the raid will be good, but nwn1 isn't really attracting me in the meantime, leveling is fun, but that's all there is. It's a whole month until the first raid is out, and i can do what, press 2 buttons and wait for the boss do eventually die? Thats it. That is it.
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>>587153430
wow rp servers are very welcoming places, just dont talk about politics or real world contentious shit in the channels, and use a lore appropriate name
nobody will try to force you to rp, and in fact most people on the server are just there for a the vibe and dont actually emote beyond a little bit of 1 liner greetings
if you are a friendly person and try to be IC, you will find some IC friends pretty quick
be wary of guilds deliberately promoting themselves as "LGBT+", usually that just means its a bunch of tranny gooners forming ERP cliques
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FUCK, the water in this game is so pretty. From the lakes to the ocean.
But once you actually jump into the ocean, that immersion kind of disappears when you sort of hover where the waves displace water.
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>>587153719
go back to toilet where you belong
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>>587153773
im already playing classic era which is retoilet lite thanks
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>>587145069
lol only brainlets do this.
iykyk my fellow auction house goblins
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How are bears with swipe? The damage just seems so crazy low that it might be pointless. How are tallstriders with the reduce armor ability?
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What are the cheapest professions to get to 150 for the legacy points?
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>>587153580
It's good you are having this existential crisis at level 14, instead of 1000 hours deep and realizing you actually have nothing to show for it, and barely enjoyed any of it.

>>587153619
we can't help it, we played it during formative years and now its stuck in our brains like a worm, playing wow activates our neurons in a way that few others things do, and we keep returning to it time and again no matter how shitty it is, hoping to recapture that feeling we had when we played it in our youth
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i'm trying to resist the urge to go casual mode hunter but the two classes i've played around with so far have not been fun. though perhaps classic wow is no longer for me.
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what’s with retard droolers not understanding people don’t want to share loot when killing shitter quest mobs hence why they decline group invites
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Pally is the most played class? Did they make it OP or is there major class changes people are trying out?
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>>587153758
Also, they added new ambience sounds throughout the world.
Does anyone know what the fuck that weird ARRRGHH noise is that sometimes plays near or in the sea? I think it's supposed to be a walrus or seal or something but because there's no animals it's just weird
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>>587153838
>AH crime lords when they can not buy out an entire megaservers worth of listings of an item and control the price with a bot
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>WoW Forver goes live
>Log in
>Hmmm what class to play?
>Leaning toward Pally because I always go Pally
>Decide Warrior
>Struggle so hard to do anything
>Manage to get to level 15
>Give up because tedious and boring
>Go back to Pally
>Literally a breeze compared to Warrior
>Doing high damage
>Healing spell
>Fighting 3 mobs at once
>Warrior couldn't even fight two without dying
>Even on defensive stance/prot
>Still take shit tons of damage while dealing none

Good god. Warrior is absolutely fucking worthless to even play. I should have trusted my heart and played Pally. I knew it would slap everyone around with their fat cocks.
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>camp tent outside of goldshire
>it's full of naked elf whores
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10 forever players can destroy 10 million retail players
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>>587154103
Just remember to not lower your guard around elves and you'll be fine.
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>All these OLYMPUS faggots
>OLYMPUS variations

What the fuck is Olmypus? I've heard it's some asmongold incel chud guild, but I'm seeing like different variations. Olmypus, Olympus II, Olympus power, etc.
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>>587154014
>noooo not my 2c average mob loot! what if something worth 2s drops that we gotta roll on?! its MY loot!!
you are an autistic and retarded subhuman faggot, just accept the invite so we can all get the quest done easily
>>587154017
They made it very OP, and also undead paladin is a huge draw.
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>>587154017
It also helps that it's easy as fuck to play and seal twisting is and has always been OP
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>>587153878
Enjoy dying in pvp without a pvp pet
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>>587154148
Yeah just a chud guild / streamer fan club.

The beta had 75,000+ Olympus members, so expect to see a LOT of them in the actual release.
Any NA PvE-ers able to say how the situation is? I was wondering just how bad it would be. Is there a half million of them as expected yet?
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Does everybody just playing horde?
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>>587154148
they have an addon that merges all guild chats together because the main guild instantly caps
they have a guy who just spam recruits people to fill a guild, then makes a new one to do the same
by spamming I mean literally the moment you log in on a new character you'll get an invite
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doomchads won
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>>587154148
>doesn't like asmon
why are you here?
this is world of warcraft general
everyone here likes asmon
everyone here is right wing
i suggest you make a liberal shithole thread if you want to talk about wow and asmon hate
you are free to do it there
you have freedom of speech
but not here
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>>587154148
You know how criminals in Murrica are color coded so you can easily tell who's a criminal and who's not just by their skin color?

Morons on Murrica servers are "guild coded". You can easily spot one just by reading Olympus under their name.
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>>587154072
for warrior you really need to be on top of keeping your gear up to date as you level, even at low lvl
weapon upgrades are top prio
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>>587154072
You unironically gave up 1 level before warrior made sense. Or you didn't give protection a try (understandable)

>go prot
>shield spec for tons of rage
>revenge at 14
>shield block at 16

If you feel like trying it out again, spec into prot with improved revenge, hit 16 for shield block, and then see how it feels. Remember to slap demo shout on everything, the debuff sounds small, but its actually big.
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prot is good leveling now?
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so if asmongold has a, lets take a rough estimate 5k player guild that essentially follows him in the games he plays
so lets also take the current faction balance of 42:57 A:H ratio on PvP US in consideration

When he eventually quits to go back to reacting to political stuff, wouldn't that instantly collapse PvP US both so that horde will never be able to create another character ever again and alliance just dies out?
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>>587154151
but i do get the quest done easily faggot i just pull 4 at a time and dps down because im not a retarded shitter like you
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>>587153041
Ramblings of the deranged
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Am I missing something, or is the alliance skyborne regen racial dogshit?
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>>587154350
war prot? yeah its much (much) stronger than arms or fury, it just has way more rage gen and survival built into the early tree, and revenge is a very strong damage button
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>>587154302
>least obvious troon liberal falseflag
you have a 50% chance of killing yourself btw, flip a coin
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>>587154376
>to go back to reacting to political stuff
>implying he can't do both
Anyways isn't the Roach King on PvE?
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Is the kodo hide bag quest worth it
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>>587154379
>t. autistic retarded subhuman faggot crying about other people being present in an mmo, because those are HIS mobs!

You're such a dumb little bitch xD
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>>587154376
Asmon is on PVE
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>>587152330
Yea it stayed on even when I tamed a new pet but in my character sheet it doesn't show the 1.2x multiplier on weapon damage so I guess it's just a visual bug
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>>587153892
I hope that you guys find a way to recapture that feeling again one day.
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>>587154514
>>587154529
My bad, I automatically assumed he was on PvP for content
Ignore my post in that case
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im all in on robes of arcanacoin time to screw my fellow locks
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holy shit i'm so glad i picked hunter, it feels so much fucking better than warrior, paladin and mage
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how do I start the riverglades blood tournament quest line?
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>playing classic wowo
>listening to pvp music playlist
>gooning to goths with big veiny tiddies
We are so back.
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>2026 and hordies are still falling for the 'random alliance lost in the barrens' bait to get themselves flagged and then camped.

kekkk no shoes niggers
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I love dwarves
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Early game gold farms? Level 20 shaman, mining and engineering
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>>587154580
We can't, but blizzard knew that this style of release would make us think we could by offering a 'fresh but familiar' style of classic wow.

Now we cope with our inability to feel, by engaging in ever more insane and destructive activities in game. Like power leveling to 60 on a 'slow' game mode, or doing extreme pvp bullshit that sometimes pays off with huge spectacle fights, but more often just means other faction getting wiped out and camped for hours.
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WHEN ARE THEY GONNA FIX THE AH


IM GETRING INTERNAL AUCTION ERRORS EVERY TIME I WANT TO SELL STUFF


AHHHH
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>decide to roll on eu rp-pvp horde for comfy vibes and no spergs
>level 33
>lfg is dead, at most 3 groups are looking to form groups for dungeons

d-did i do a mistake and have to reroll on pvp?
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>>587154996
I get that message when buying, but I still get the item.
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>>587154971
There is nothing dude. It's too populated. Just keep leveling and get to higher value mobs.

If you INSIST, then you can try same level elites and duo them with a dps class. The drops and exp are pretty good in a duo. Just sell everything.
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>>587152543
>How is WoW Forever different to Classic, different to that private classic server thing, and different to normal WoW?
Forever is a improved upgrade of the original 2004 World of Wacraft, with thousands of new quests, new zones, dungeons, visual upgrades and various modern QoL like optional modern graphics
>Normal WoW: the game with 20+ years worthy of expansions. Basically a complete different game
>Vanila WoW: any versione of the game that keeps the "original" WoW client from 2004 to 2007 with no changes
>Turtle WoW: a private server of Vanilla that expanded the original vanilla with new quests, zones, dungeons and features while keeping all "vanilla like". Also know as vanilla+
>WoW Forever: the official Blizzard take on Vanilla+ After the managed to force Turtle to close off their servers
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>>587154653
He is on PVE for content. He wants to be able to run around the open world with his army of goons and do whatever he wants to make clickbait about for the day. Asmon KNOWS that on live servers after most people hit 60 he is NOT gonna be able to leave Alliance territory without an army of Horde ripping his asshole in half if he went PVP.
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>>587155049
I can buy but I can not sell anything. Error after error I hate it
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>another wow general put forever into their OP to trick people into going there
LMAOOOOO
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horde won de facto by virtue of asmongold and his legion of americucks and eurocucks being on alliance on every server
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>>587155104
Not all errors are created equal...
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>>587155038
Apparently(?) LFG is based on layer, and your layer is also based on your language/region settings.

Try switching to a larger/diffferent language/region pool.

It's this window.
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I paypigged...
Now, do I go Horde or Alliance? I'm on EU PvE.
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>>587155038
rp-pvp is dead because they announced it so late. Everyone already made plans to join pve, pvp, or rp. rp-pvp was also bugged at name reservation so most people didn't even SEE the option when making their characters.
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>>587155068
Thought so. I hate megaservers.
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What's the strong rogue leveling spec at the moment? My guild has none and I need an alt so I don't outpace all my friends.
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How the fffffffuuuuukkkkk do I stop buffing eye tone in front of me


How do I self cast automatically and yes that setting is on auto but if I press say might it auto targets someone in front of me instead of my character
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>>587154919
I love em but holy shito they really fucked up the legs and running animations. Once you see it you can't unsee it. Dwarves are not supposed to be wearing skinny jeans.

Also they fixed the helmet but not the shoulders or anything else from this photo.
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Goon to Dwarves
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>>587154294
Asmongold isn't right-wing, dipshit.
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>>587155274
Do you have the sparkle mod on?
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>>587155343
I do yeah
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Is blizz planning to change the leyline skyborne racial? It seems so underpowered compared to everything else.
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>>587155038
I thought I read somewhere that using lfg tools is frowned upon in the rp community. You're supposed to gather a party in character.
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>>587154294
>everyone here likes asmon
>everyone here is right wing
You don't speak for all of us, chud.
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>>587155326
He was literally in tears of sadness reacting to the midterms
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>>587155373
May I interest you in my Troll's bandage on a 3 min cooldown?
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>>587152543
>See I play games for the exploration, failure and growth aspect
Its the absolute best moment to join WoW because Forever is filled with new players that never played WoW, so nobody should whined they you dont know how to play or how to minmax. There are gonna be dozens of new dungeons and raids that nobody every saw
Also unlike Retail all Vanilla and Vanilla+ forms of the games like Forever are focused on exploration and adventure, rather than minmaxxing for endgame cooperative content. The Endgame raid themselves will be also 2004-like so pitfill easy compared to modern Retail raids that needs Excels to keep tracks of all the mechanics of a single boss
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>>587155326
Yeah, but only lefties hate him enough to give a shit about what server he's playing on
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>>587155316
>no beard
into the trash
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Man this game is beautiful
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>>587144917
Yes, but not nearly as cringe as giving your character the last name "Forever"
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The fuck is this? Is this new?
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>>587155362
Well there's your problem
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>>587155520
where from retail is that
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>>587155409
Yeah, cause it was fucking cringe to watch.
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>>587155520
Smurf Elves totally vanilla-like flying ship that goes in and out their totally vanilla-like high fantasy flying island
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>>587155520
thats a skigger rig
it takes skiggers to and from skigger island
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>DUDE HORDE IS THE PVP FACTION WE ARE DOMINATING THE ALLIANCE!

>also horde the moment they step foot into any zone that isn't the barrens or ashenvale
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>>587155527
How is sparkle addon inflicting my targeting if this works I’m gonna kiss you anon
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I'm level 20 but have fishing already at 150 soon. Is it worth it to go down to booty bay for the book?
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>dwarf zones
>full of dwarves and gnomes with lore friendly names even tho it's not an RP ruleset
>campfires everywhere
>everyone is chill
>human zones
>faggots and sperglords
>elf zones
>whores and femboys
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>>587155461
Braided anal hairs.
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Just respec'd to Ele since Enh is getting raped
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>>587155419
One second, let me increase my passive regeneration on a 2min CD. Oh, and it barely functions in combat when it matters due to health regen not occurring in combat and spellcasting fucking mana regen.
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I haven't seen a single blue skelf on the RP server. Everyone is just using them as stand ins for high elves, or using human skin tones.
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>>587155696
I'll take elf whores over hippy midgets.
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>>587155696
I noticed everyone is pretty chill on any Horde PvP EU starting zones. There is basically a giant campfire 24/7 right at the entrance of Undercity
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>>587155731
? trolls regen 20% in combat
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>>587155461

Troon.
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why didn't he just do first name asmon second name gold? he had ea, he could have reserved it
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>>587155092
PvE is single player raidlog simulator anyway because there is no contest or tension between actions so I don't think anything he does is relevant
Hot take I guess
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Femdwarf or gnome
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>>587149186
>the dungeon exp nerf was too heavy handed and hurts the wrong people
it hurts the right people its supposed to hurt, the people who were using dungeons as a primary way of leveling, detracting from the original intention and spirit of classic wow.

i think there is some argument for increasing mob exp, but not by a significant amount. just so that you don't feel disincentivized to run a dungeon every now and then where you don't have quests or major upgrades available, but for the latter case (which is an argument the dungeon spammers are using) there could be some specific kind of mechanic. i think the most common suggestion is having a lockout for reduced xp from dungeon mobs. i think this would take care of most of the "my guildie needs help, and i feel like running a dungeon for the hell of it, why not?" without enabling primarily dungeon leveling.

maybe people would just have multiple alts and rotate them, but i dont see that as a realistic concern, because you ought to be targeting the players the aren't megasweats, but specifically want to do nothing but level with dungeons.

>>587149247
yeah it's just excuses. i have healed, tanked and dps'd all on the same druid lvling spec. just collect a tank/heal gear and store it in your bank and you don't need a "build" to tank leveling dungeons. on era hc there are people that solo the dungeons while still being in exp range for the dungeons. absolutely ridiculous whining for most of it, that is mainly just people wanting excuses to sit in a dungeon spam group, zoned out, mouseovering peoples portraits like they do at max lvl.
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>>587155781
obsessed
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>>587155801
Mistyped due to cockroaches
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>>587155735
Elvenfags wanted their bland fair skinned humans with long hairs, not looksmaxxed smurfs
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I'm excited for all the free codes to stop playing, that should make the pvp server comfier desu...
tfw can't play today because gotta go donate blood.

>>587141618
I had a lot of social experiences questing yesterday on PvP, but the issue for me is that you can't add people without adding them to battle.net and them accepting you, it's awkward. Need the OG friendlist.
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Why can't any of you make a thread properly?
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It's so cool that there is no loading screen when sailing from menethil to hillsbrad. Surprised me tbdesu
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>>587155824
try gnome for the busted ass eureka racial, and you'll never go back
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>>587155731
How come niggers constantly healed to full with it in the pvp tourney then
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>>587154072
That's because Paladin already had a god tier utility kit
>plate
>high hp
>high str
>blessings (now lasting for 1 hour just because)
>immunities
>self heal
>cleanse (cannot be overstated how incredibly useful this is throughout the whole leveling journey)
>free mount
>best mobility talent in the game
>LoH with a now reduced CD for another life bar
All it was missing was steady damage. It killed stuff slow but if you had even a single braincell you never die. It's incredibly safe. Now, they just get an instant attack and more damage added on top of their kit. For free. Literally no drawbacks. Warrior on the other hand is still playing in Vanilla EXCEPT it now has nerfed rage generation. Because Aggrend is a niggerfaggot who mains paladin
>bro you just need gear bro warrior is gear dependent bro just get gear and it will be playable bro
so you need blues to even reach the baseline level that paladin is at. LEL
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my based retail+classic enjoyer, pilav
here is a picture of him playing the game yesterday
as you can see his ui is very minimal, it preserves the spirit of vanilla wow
i like this a lot for him
and me
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>>587155183
Nobody likes Skyborne here? ;;
Also, anyone want the free code?
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>>587155183
Either way it sucks unless you want to play druid and hate vanilla forms. Crazy they didn't allow them to be priests.
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>>587155583
Getting to the wetlands dungeon as horde is what hell must be like.
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>>587155845
>it hurts the right people its supposed to hurt
the people who dungeon exp nerf hurt turned right around, formed parties in the open world, and farmed hyper spawns or hyper spawning elites, and accomplished the exact same or better pace of mindless boosting grind
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Any madman who made a horde skelf rogue can confirm if the speed boost racial works while in stealth?
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I almost shit fucking blood when I saw this thinking they were doing it for yet another day in a row.
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>all other classes ask for help/beg for help in chat to kill elites for quests
>as a hunter i can just solo them
LMAO
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>>587155778
I'm referring to the skelf racial.
>gain 50% increase health and mana regen for 15 sec
>also regen only really works outside of combat unless you're a troll or have spellcaster talents to retain a portion of the mana regen while casting
>>587155927
I heard it stacks with food, but again that only helps if you can get out of combat
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>>587155939
my not based retail rwf echo raider m+ "im going to play with my dad in forever" [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJxI8aD9vq0&pp=0gcJCUEMAYcqIYzv] interview liar, swedish basedboy, meeres
as you can see his ui is very retail-coded, extremely cringe and giga un-based, it does not preserve the spirit of wow, this guy doesn't even play wow, he plays add-ons: the game.
i hate this a lot for him
and me
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>>587155939
I wish I was a manlet like Pilav. It's so easy to be ripped when you're a manlet.
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>>587155881
Wonder if the trial characters count towards faction cap on PvP. Wouldn't put it past blizzard allowing hordes of accounts no-one touches anymore lockup a faction lmao
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Do I want agi as enhancement?
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>>587156073
same lol
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>>587149807
Those "epic redridge raids" are literally r*dditors on D*scord from Grob. It's not some amazing emerging gameplay...

>>587156108
Uh... that'd be bad
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>>587156090
fucking kek it genuinely looks like a retail screenshot
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>>587156090
this ui is so faggy its unreal, these people have no shame
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bros I'm bored already, I want the hardcore servers
I though it would be no big deal and I could just do it with the plugin until then, but I severely underestimated how annoying it is to do when no one else is under the same ruleset
I did see some cool items at least, like an axe that can mine ore without being a miner and a bunch of regen things
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>buy a wand
>mage becomes 10x easier
Why does this class start with a staff?
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I miss layering...
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>>587156254
This version of vanilla feels too broken for Hardcore. So you can't do caves and hyper spawns can rape you?
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So dualspec is 50 gold lol at level 40
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>>587156090
>modern wow UI is near perfect, some additions you can make with addons but it's nowhere like the old days where you had to have certain addons for it to be functional
>poopsockers like this turn it into some mobile game cluttered with shit
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>>587156090
Why are you posting image of a m+ run on the forever general?
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>>587156127
It gives you crit and some defensive stats. It's better at higher levels when you have crit related talents like flurry. Gives no AP which sucks.
Focus on strength and intellect at lower levels.
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Any tanking guide on youtube you can recommend that is actually useful for someone who NEVER tanked?
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Why are WoW mods always so dogshit?
>always giga huge proportions
looks stupid and it causes massive clipping issues, like arms going through their thighs while idling, at least when you get giga huge in XIV you the mods adjust the arm positioning
>no texturing
futa mods suffer with fake plastic looking dildos and mcdonalds ballpit balls whereas XIV would have skin textures and veins and wrinkles and shit to make it look real

I don't care about the paint on clothing textures, I know that comes with the territory of WoW, but it feels like they don't even try at all when it comes to actually making the character look appealing. You get XBOX HUGE tits that look like airbrushed plastic with stapled on fake nipples and that's literally all you get. It's the most tasteless disgusting shit I've ever seen. I want modest proportions like a simple DD. I want a slender DFC sexelf. I want my characters' arms to be visible and not balls deep inside their thighs.
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>>587156254
I got something hard for you
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>>587155892
Okay I will, priest or rogue? Not the biggest fan of mages
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>>587156426
Your arteries?
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>>587156229
the names are fucking garbage too
meeres "voice" ??????
gingi "beastmode" ?????
these incredulous NIGGERS couldn't for ONCE in their miserable "WoW career"s think of an actual character name for once?
NO DOOD!!!! NO DOOOOOOOOOOD! I NEEEEEEEEEEED EVERYONE TO KNOW IM THE 6X CHAMPION RWF RAIDER "MEERES" AND I NEEEEEEED EVERYONE TO KNOW I SHOULD HAVE RETIRED 3 TIERS AGO "GINGI" GOING TOTALLY BEAST MODE BRO! DOOOOOD!!!

I hate them.
I hate them SO much.

Forever bros if you see these faggots out in the wild, be sure to say something as you run past them on stream. We must not make these people feel welcome. ALWAYS gouge them on prices if you trade with them aswell. They WILL be doing shady rmt transactions that blizzard will overlook or never find out about.
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token is coming bigly
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>>587156475
Told you so btw
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>>587156374
>trying to say this with a straight face when FXIV modbeasts are the most deranged shit in existence
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>>587156335
I just got 40 on my shaman and only have 50g haha guess ill just get dual spec how the fuck do people have gold? Nothing sells on ah for more than vender price
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>>587156374
Coming from shit like Fallout and Skyrim, most modders seem to go for super ridiculous proportions. XIV might be one of the exceptions to that
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I'm glad I didn't end up rolling on the fomo bait RP-PVP, how did they expect the dynamic they had on le grobbulus to work on a mega server? it's too nebulous for that
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>>587156307
It's not like they can't tune the spawns which they probably will after the launch rush is over.
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>>587155892
>busted ass eureka racial
ALL gnome racials are busted
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>>587156538
of course and they will fix layering for real now
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>>587156553
Maybe I'm retarded but Eureka doesn't seem THAT good as a Priest, because so many abilities are periodic. Doesn't do shit for wanding either
I guess it's good to pop it before PW:S, or if you're healing.
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Re release a 20 year old game with new character graphics and 4 “new” zones which are just copy pasted assets from already existing xpansions.

Create some new lighting effects and weather effects.

Turn off dungeon farming XP.

Have streamers hype up the game let asmongold drove publicity via political talking points and comparisons to the game during beta.

Boom a “new” wow. Very impressive from a business perspective. Blizzard leadership deserves all the bonuses they are gonna get. The shareholders better be in Irvine on their knees right now.

But we as gamers are happy with this.

Man things are never getting better . We are all sheep.
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>>587155801
how do u get the elite frame on your character plate?
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>>587156514
Wait till you find out that aggrend fucked with most sources of gold income.
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>>587156650
Eureka is truly busted on the non-mana classes (rogue/warrior)
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where are birds keeping the copper they drop
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>>587156506
There is disgusting modbeasts for sure, but there is also a shitload of options. I've seen it all on XIV. But WoW only has modbeast proportions which are pig disgusting and they put in 0 effort into how the skin actually looks.

Like why can't I make a Sexelf that has these exact proportions???
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>>587156353
just practice on a dummy..
>cast a taunt
>aoe
>maintain buffs, debuffs
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>>587156335
What's dual spec?
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>>587156749
In their wallets.
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>>587156307
its pretty broken, I even died to invisible monsters once and I regularly see people fighting ghosts. its going to be a bloodbath, I can't wait
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>>587156786
Ok come here dummy
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>>587156553
I'm playing dwarf shaman but I fucking WISH I could have been a gnome. Escape artist on enh would be sooooo fucking busted.
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>need tanning rack to make leatherwork shit
>tanning rack description says 'can be placed over a tent at a camp'
>assume i have to place it over a tent
>place tent
>cannot put down tanning rack for an hour
>cannot craft my shit
my retardation aside this has to be the worst fucking feature anybody has ever thought to put into a game lmao wtf is this
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>invite someone to dungeon group
>they are on a different continent
>"any summon?"
>we have no warlock
i am no longer inviting learning or relaxed players
they take the absolute piss
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i've leveled druid to lvl 11 and i'm already fatigued
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>>587156830
id take stoneform over eureka any day for leveling
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>>587156760
>Like why can't I make a Sexelf that has these exact proportions???

It's probably a huge hassle to get it working with the wow engine. There are several private servers based around adult moding and despite the severe autism of the individuals there, they can still only get rudimentary stuff working.
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Here is one other such retard. He is also a rwf raider in retail. He has raided at rwf levels in both eu and na.
This tweet is 100% serious.
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Why does ignore list reset on logout
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>>587155712
nice bulge
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>>587156894
fool
it means it has the same buff as the tent so if a tent is down at a campfire you can still drop the rack and it will replace the tent
also just go outside stormwind gate. theres always a rack up because many people need to use them
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>>587156941
he's right
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>>587156945
Just wait until you get dual spec and your bars reset every loading screen
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>>587156914
shaman already has both poison and disease cleanses though so its a little lame
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>>587156941
>200k views
there is no hope for humanity
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>>587156786
I'm watching some video right now he says to not join a group but make your own and inspect everyone and shit.
That sounds really tedious...
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>>587156760
blizzard bans model editing anon
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>spec into riptide
>respec
>still have riptide

This slop should've never left beta >>587157012
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>>587156941
Why the fuck do MAGES complain about having to drink when they can generate infinite water?
>OMG I HAVE TO PRESS A BUTTON TO TAKE A QUICK SIPPY BETWEEN PULLS THIS IS THE WORST THING EVER
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>They got psyopped into rolling pvp and rp pvp
Fucking gottem
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Why is this release version so broken
Why was the fucking beta better and more stable


???
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>>587157076
What is more tedious? inviting random shitters and fucking up in the dungeons and wiping? or spending slightly more effort to find correctly geared possibly competent people, and getting the dungeon done easily?
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>>587156740
Yeah that sounds true, must be crazy good when it effects EVERYTHING
still, I love Gnome Priest's racial abilities, Contingency Plan feels busted for solo play (free renew + PW:S which also stacks with actual renew + PW:S), and Confounding Flash is a great get-out-of-jail card.

So still liking being a gnome.
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>>587157151
no the beta was even worst
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>>587156914
stoneform is still a great racial to fuck over rogue blind and make feral druids useless. but man escape artist is just SO FUCKING GOOD for any melee.
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holy fuck warrior tanking is so good in this
but coming from hunter my apm has more than tripled in fights
but dungeons are very fun. i never lose threat, dont need to mark skulls or ever use cc and my priest never goes oom
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>>587157110
If you said the beta is too short for how close the launch is people just called you a doomer :(
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>>587157151

They started listening to random streamers and changing major engine mechanics like layering on a whim.
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>>587156760
they really are all awful...
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guys how is this not kino
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>>587157151
>have beta
>make a bunch of huge changes the day before actual release
>??????????????
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>>587156514
Theyre already selling gold
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>doing the same quest as these people obviously
>invite them because it'll make it faster
>declined
>even invite a guild member into a group
>declined
why though...
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Do you have mount for quick fishing win in STV?
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no one is saying they are having a blast anymore
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>>587157283
i was thinking it
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>doing teldrassil quests at level 23
it's not my fault, you sent me here with that fossil quest, now i have to do everything before i leave
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First week isn't even over and xivggers and retailtroons are busy looking for the best porn mods
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>>587157235
it is very kino, the weather and lighting effects are by far my favorite part of this whole thing

everything else can suck it imo, but seeing the zones like this has been a treat
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>>587157283
Most people realized this is literally just vanilla leveling again but with nerfed dungeons and fucked layering.
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>>587157283
We’re all going back to OG, I think.
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>>587157076
you dont have to do all that but if you do make the group you can invite people who set their status to learning so no one will give you a hard time
you also dont invite other mail wearers so you get all the loot
you also get to invite people who are higher than the average level needed which drastically reduces chances of wipes and makes the dungeon way easier
if for whatever reason they think you are SO shit they wanna kick you, they cannot because its your group
and everybody understands that as a tank they need you. you can get a group instantly, they cannot
any way anon all the pulls in low level dungeons are easy so you can take it slow and never worry about juggling threat on too many mobs
just mark a skull and tell people to attack that
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As a restoration druid should I be walking up to enemies in a dungeon to smack them with my weapon a bit? It's always some damage and Omen of Clarity proc can give me a free spell cast. My healer instinct tells me to stay far away but I feel weird just standing there and not doing anything even for 5 seconds.
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>>587157250
If you have a stupid name I usually ignore the request
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thank god we have classic fresh coming this summer
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>>587157460
Use Wrath
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>>587157283
I literally just blasted the gay out of you with Fire Blast.
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It is your duty to /lick the loli when you start a Skyborne character.
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>>587157160
>>587157454
How bad are you? I haven't seen a single dungeon wipe after launch, in beta plenty tho.
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>>587157334
>vanilla leveling again
It feels slower than vanilla, by at least 20%
maybe its because I didn't get exp from dungeons, it just feels incredibly slow as fuck more slow than even the most boring vanilla shit I ever played
like vanilla I will just grind a level here and there in some good spots, but here in forever those same spots feel agonizingly slow progress

idk maybe I'm just old and seeing it for the waste of time it is, but it feels SLOOOOOOOOw
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>>587157235
THIS NIGGA KOREAN
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>>587157494
Spending mana on damage while in healing role seems unwise. I don't want to run out in case of an emergency. Even slapping some fairy fire on non-boss enemies feels like a waste of mana.
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>>587157454
Alright anon thank you. I can do it.... maybe
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Warlock lvling seems pretty chill and easy but I'm getting to a point where i have to apply dots twice to a target to get them down, watching shammies/pala going around two shoting everything is kind of a blow to my ego.
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>>587157623
The current meta leveling is collect all the dungeons quests, they give insane exp (a single RoL quest filled over 1/4 of my level bar)
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>>587157612
you don't need to reply to every single post you see with a contrary opinion
there is absolutely nothing(nothing) contentious about suggesting it is a good idea to think about party composition while making the party, instead of just taking completely random picks
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This is just classic. Are people really going to spend a month getting to 60 again for the 3rd time in like 5 years? I’m done once poe new season starts, this game is boring as fuck and just filled with 40yo dads and autistic porn freaks.
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>alternating between 2 characters for solo and playing with bro
>haven't reached level20 yet
I can't make it..see you next fresh guys..
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>>587157674

Forever trannies abandoned THIS for shitty layering and fog.
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>>587157764
same im leveling a lvl 9 paladin and lvl 13 hunter at the same time
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>>587157717
keep your wand up to date
lock is a wand dependent class while leveling
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>>587157758
yes!!!
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i spent thousands of hours on wow when i were teen especially in wotlk and cata still i fail to see appeal of this, it is literally just a fun 255 server but 10+ years late, like, did not blizzniggs use to hate changes and stuff and call private servers trash for that exact cause? what happen now, what makes this so great? the fact that 65% will drop it in 2 weeks when streamers start playing gta 6?
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do i need an addon to make the boxes/unused buttons on my action bar invisible or can this be changed in the settings now?
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Been alright so far but looking for a group to do DM with has been the most schizophrenic shit I've experienced so far
>get a full group together
>tank and dps go ahead and into instance
>me, other dps and healer follow
>healer asks if we wanna do the UD quest in front of the dungeon, sure
>after a few minutes the tank asks "guys????" after which we explain to him once more we're doing the UD shit real quick.
>after a few more minutes he leaves the instance and comes towards us
>almost reaches us, leaves the group
>Okay. 3rd dps disconnects at some point while we finish the UDs with our healer
>while looking for another tank, leave the UD area. Healer goes the wrong way, back out of DM. He leaves a few seconds after
>3rd dps comes back from his DC, leaves group

What the fuck is wrong with these people? Can they read? Can they talk? Can they do fucking anything that's not written down in an AI voiced guide?
The group we got right after was the complete opposite again and it was a good time, even stayed in group a while and talked after we finished the dungeon. I don't get it.
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>>587157758
I only did it in 2019, I'm not doing it again. This version is the worst iteration so far
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Reminder to everyone if you want to be a stripper and have a stripper mog that you must roll a cloth class because the best boots in the game are starting gear which count as cloth (Human Warrior level 1 boots). Other classes can equip these boots or cloth boots transmogged, but they cant run around in them all the time.

Hope this helps
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>>587157874
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>>587157739
How often do you wipe? Be honest.
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>>587157076
first dungeon thats somewhat difficult is drowned city, you want +40 group there
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>>587157884
You alliance PvP? I'll tank for you, but only if you don't take my 1handers and I will only be inviting classes that can't roll on them.
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>>587158000
I'm on EU though and play rogue so I will be taking your 1handers. I'll manage, it's part of the experience.
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>>587157884
Nigger I wanted to do the instance obsessed of your shitty quests outside I've already done.
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why does Questie keep lying about quests on the minimap, should i just use a different addon?
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Fellas whats the level to tank BFD?
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>>587157764
>one main
>only level 21
Shouldn't have wasted so much time doing inefficient dungeons, chatting, or professions... it's over
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>>587158067
Noo you don't get it, I've done the same quests 50 times already, following the restedxp arrow and I still want to do it and you have to also!!!
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any good quality of life addons to install?
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>>587157871
same
its just a boring classic fresh

I think what happened is that streamers hyped it massively, and once you view anything on a mobile app these days, you get sucked into the matrix of that content very hard. Like even if you just wanted to see what it was about a little bit, your feed will be absolutely full of that shit after that and it just drags you in.

it's not great, more than 65% will drop it

it will be 'around forever' for those who want permanency for their characters and communities, which is the real selling point
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So as a hunter I just got a prairie wolf alpha with bite 2 and fast attacks 4

It feels like it’s stronger than my boar
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>>587157609
No, I'm not a pedophile
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>>587157941
yesss thank you
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can someone redpill me on the fishing event?
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>>587157943
There is nothing wrong with taking party composition into account when forming a party, no matter how many of your gay little contrarian shitposts you make.

It will never be wrong, or strange, to carefully construct a successful party. Ever.
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>what if we released classic for the 10th time in 7 years
>but we nerf the things people actually enjoy
>and we remove gold gain from quests at level cap
>and we need with professions past 225 so its harder to hit 300
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>>587158089
26. Easy rule of thumb for any dungeon is checking the last boss level and subtracting 2. If boss has level 3 higher than yours they'll be orange and you'll miss a lot more, and missing an important threat ability or taunt sucks bad. Aku'Mai on BFD is 28 lvl.
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>>587157758
I'm excited to try out the new talents and spells
Mage has an actual rotation now and warrior tanking are more interesting than tabsundering adnauseum
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>>587158252
Why are you dodging the question?
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I'VE FINALLY BEEN ABLE TO ROLL A HORDE CHARACTER ON PVP
However I already started Warlock for the first time on PVE and now I don't feel like fucking jumping on a new character yet.
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I was joking about it before but damn being a dwarf sucks let me be a draenei
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>>587158154
>Questie, disable everything besides world map tracking
>DungeonJournal, to easily see what quests a dungeon has and where to get them (seriously useful)
>Forever Fishing, to make fishing incredibly easy (one button to bait, fish, and catch.) Also offers a catch log, and re-equips regular gear once you're done fishing
>Forever Quest Tint: Gives new quests a blue tint. If you're like me you care about reading the new stuff but want to ignore the quests you've done 30 times before, it's very handy.
That's all I use really. Downloaded others but disabled them, unlike Classic you really don't need 20 addons at once it feels.
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Somebody make an ally na pvp guild, I know it looks grim and scary but we most hold sisters! Dont fall for the doomer psy ops
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>>587158354
Furfag
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Female Human Hunter
Young Black Ravager
You do the math
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What kind of a toaster can run this?
Asking for a friend with a RX580 who wants to play but doesn't believe he can run it.

I've had a lot of fun myself so far, even tho I'm only lvl15.
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bros is anyone doing the fishing event?
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>>587158284
i see thank you
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>>587158163
All the streamers were made, that fps streamer that gave 50k to the streamer tourney was also paid by Blizzard
I saw on X they even tried to pay Ninja to stream it but he's retired
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>>587157609
where do i find this loli skelf
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>>587158289
>warrior tanking are more interesting than tabsundering adnauseum
unfortunately its still a lot of tabsundering, but you might have enough rage from shield block for the occasional cleave
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oh no no no
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>>587158437
she's now in my basement, sorry
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>>587157201
Unironically perfect description of your avg person playing wow
trash porn taste, plays a trash 335a wotlk blizlike pserver, pserver advert generated by AI, vibecoded with AI too, and on top of that, probably an unironic third worlder
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>>587157884
Classic chain reaction, niggas can't deal with minor inconveniences. Had a hunter quit halls of thanes after the fire boss on our second wipe twice to fags aggroing patrols. Nigga low level dungeons have always been a shitshow, you have zero tools and are wearing half greys
But the worst are cowards that DC'd instead of leaving the group
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>>587158437
I ate her
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Can I make a dwarf and immediately run over to the human starting area to do all their quests instead? I already leveled in the dwarf area.
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>>587158201
tank pets are a meme, always go for high dps pets. More damage = more threat
I think screech still has its threat bonus and the AP debuff is crazy good in pve. You'll have to deal with the constant wing flapping sound + screechs if you close in to melee though
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>>587158330
>nooo you gotta respond seriously to my low effort shitty trolling
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>>587158586
screech blows now
too long cd
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>>587158565
Nothing is stopping you, but if you want a dwarf mount not getting reputation will bite you.
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>>587158492

Average Forever tranny
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>>587156760
I literally look like this (mtf)
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>>587155982
the lowlife sweatlords were never the main target for the dungeon nerf
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So I did RFC twice and I just noticed I was only getting 30 XP per trogg kill?
Is this a bug that seems really low for an Elite Mob?
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>>587158565
You can run over to Darn if you really wanted to. There’s nothing preventing you from leveling wherever you want.
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>>587158654
obsessed
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>>587158670
Good for you! I hope life treats you well!
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why are there 3 wowfg threads?
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>ores respawning faster than mobs
the fuck is this funserver shit
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>>587158586
Yeah but the boar has charge and more armor and hp
The wolf has faster attack bite growl and claws
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>>587158636
You could have said just simply said "never" or "almost never" instead of starting to seethe.
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>>587158445
Good enough if you mark skull, thunder clap will keep threat from cleave and heals.
I hope once casters get their threat reduction talents TC + cleave ends up being good enough and tanking doesn't require 100apm
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>>587158492
why are brownoids so obsessed with eating poop?
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>>587158735
Economy is fucked
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>Blizzard deletes all furries from Forever
>Forever crashes and burns
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>>587157235
I like it but some parts are a pain to play at night. The harpies canyon south of Orgrimmar gave me a migraine.
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>>587158690
It's a great game design decision to make people play more open world, you just don't have 500 years of game developer experience to truly appreciate this change
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>>587158780

Many species of animals rim other members of their species to pick up pheromone and other scent markers.

Since you're a human being and not an animal it seems odd to you.
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>>587158690
Aggrend and jaded millennials want you to do each dungeon only once so all the exp is in quest rewards.
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>>587155939
>>587156090
ill never understand what causes people to wanna watch other people play videogames
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>>587158471
>no gold from quests at lvl 60

How do you get gold then?
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>>587158871
ask your viewers for gold donos? are you dumb?
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Holy shit, the dung xp nerf is a literal apocalypse
what was the last time a change was so bad both reddit and 4chan cried about it 24/7 ?
I bet it was the selfie camera + twitter update back in WoD
picrel 2015 anon complaining legion prunes too much shit
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>>587158857
>>587158831
What? why? dungeons were a fun way to level if zones were overcrowded and I liked doing them for loot and XP but this is just so painfully low.
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>>587158871
You don't. Aggrend knows what's best for you.
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>>587158758
now you're crying because somebody didn't take your bait xD
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>>587156894
the cooldown shit is fucking retardation ill give you that

JUST LET ME USE MY FUCKING BUFFS THAT I MADE???????????

why teh fuck would you ever do this shit, muh social pillars shit? im not going to run around for 10min to get to SW gates or whever thres a guaranteed tent if i cant find one in the first 10sec i spend looking when its time to use my tent
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>>587158871
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>>587158943
You are supposed to enjoy the journey, aka do quests in overworld aka follow the restedexp arrow.
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>>587158713
No shaman trainers outside of IF tho
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Is 25 gold good for level 24? I don't know how much I need for mount
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i wish some night elf babe would caress my cock in ashenvale
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>>587158492
giwtwm
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I erped too much as a gnome. I dreamt about more elf and human cocks poking and prodding my little self.
Fun times...
Might be too much fun being had...
Today should be a strict leveling day
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So once this game crashes and burns, we're all going to blame Worgen players, right?


Right?
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>>587158994
>xD
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>>587158871
By going out in the wold and farming in-demand items or high value greys, or using your professions to generate gold. It's not that complicated. Right now all the gathering trade goods are oversaturated, but anything that you have to actively farm from specific enemies (spider silk, etc.) is fetching a good price. That's going to become more true for things that are used a lot in raids, dungeons, and PvP.
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>oot is bad
what do i play then?
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>>587158871
Vendoring dungeon loot because you're getting less than 1s per elite in 60 dungeons after it's been split 5 ways.
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Should I spam RFC for this healing mace? +33 low level seems crazy good???
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>>587158690
>>587158943
they offloaded the dungeon mob exp to quests to combat boosting and dungeon spam. pick up quests and you get the equivalent of exp from the dungeon as you would normally.
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>>WoW
>>no pretty Belf amputees to play as
what kind of lobotomite browns play this shit lol
I bet You as soon as GTA6 releases, playerbase will be cut in half
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>>587159175

Cyberpunk 2077
Star Trek Online
Kingdome Come Deliverance I & II
No Man's Home
Breeders of the Nephelym
Carnal Instinct
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>>587158925
What's ironic about it was reddit was celebrating it during the beta when they were already level capped.
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>>587159206
no because unlike +spelldmg you won't even need +healing to be able to heal properly until a lot later
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>>587144632
Why is that thing that color?
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>>587159210
>pick up quests and you get the equivalent of exp from the dungeon as you would normally.
especially important since you can do the quests as many times as you want
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>>587148920
No.
Streamers adore the change, the change stays.
That is how the game works, and boy, we are finally on the right side of history (Streamer's side).
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>>587159292
oh.
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I am planning to do Thousands Needles after i finish Camp Taurajo and genocide some pig in Razorfen
After Thousands Needles shall my Bull follow the trail of Kodo in Desolace or go Badlands to later enter Riverglades?
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>>587144881

>There are people that think Asmongold still plays Forever.
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why did they release this game when they're actively still removing or adding critical class abilities
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Evercold waiting room
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free horse
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>>587159419
>free
just buy gold
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>>587159352
WHY THE FUCK YOU WOULD EVER WANT TO DO THOUSAND NEEDLES DESOLACE AND BADLANDS
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>>587159334
Based streamers saving this game from the unwashed reddit masses
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>>587158925
>what was the last time a change was so bad both reddit and 4chan cried about it 24/7 ?
Covenants
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>be me human male playing a human male
>people add me as a friend after questing
>it’s a bnet add not just a wow friends list
>my bnet name is a girls name because I used my dogs name
>have guys being extra nice to me and giving me shit
>got called a she today
bruh
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>>587159503
It's Us+Streamers vs Reddit, Players, WoWhead, MMO-Champ and forums.

And we are finally fuarking winning.
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Switch layer settings back to launch day settings.

People camping quest mob spawns. People camping ore veins and herb spawns (the amount of insults I got for taking one tap from people sitting at a copper ore vein, jesus christ).

The devs... they play the game, right? Surely they must see the issues after inflating the layers with people. It was so smooth on day one... why fold. Before weekend even, it's gonna be even worse today (sunday).

This might have been the smoothest, most based launch week of any WoW version up to date, but as is the tradition, they shot themselves in the foot.
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>>587159398
That's modern game dev for you. Release game in half baked form at full price and rely on feedback to finish it.
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Classic was built on RMT dads, people wanted to play so little of classic they actively tried to raid as fast as possible
Now aggrend wants them out in the world farming for gold every night?
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>Level 24 human warrior in wetlands.
>Die like a useless dog to any nigger horde.
That's it, I'm rerolling ret because fatso faggot aggrend made sure to gimp warrior while making ret s-tier.
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>>587159330
Wrong, unlesss you delete your character.
>>587159547
You forgot Aggrend.

Literally forces of good vs. forces of evil.
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>>587159536
>>it’s a bnet add

People aren't supposed to be able to just look up your Battle.net profile and add you. That's a MAJOR breach of privacy.
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>half my inventory is useless quest shit
Why does vanilla do this
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>>587155179
does west or east have more people?
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>>587159593
How the fuck are you dying to Horde in Wetlands? That shit is like D-day for them. We have the bridge camped 24/7
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>kill some horde faggot with a stupid name
>he switches layers to avoid being camped
>will more than likely never see me again due to size of the megaserver
this isn't WoW
it's a WoWlike experience
like how when you used to buy a chocolate bar you got chocolate, now you have some sort of weird chocolate-flavor rubber thing that vaguely reminds you of what you had before, but your body knows its a foul imitation, and you feel bad after eating it because you know it was fake slop
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>>587159648
Really? You can just right click people in-game and block them to see their tag
I've been doing it to fish out ERPer tags to see if they're GAM/Biofem/Tranny
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I AM SI FUCKING BROKE

7 silver at level 14 bro
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>>587159595
Axis vs (((Allies))) and we are winning this time around.
Us= Nazi Germany
Aggrend=Italy
Streamers=Japan
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>>587159761
Human female POV
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>>587159761
Wow smut before the TBC reveal trailer showing the sexy belves was something else.
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>rp-pve
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Wow I I feel totally fucking useless for 90% of every dungeon as a rogue unless we fight a boss and I feel like I spend a lot of time auto attacking and pressing buttons that don’t feel good
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>>587159761
im losing my shit realizing some weird fucker actually drew this and was proud enough of it to put it out there on the internet
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>>587159562
it's an MMO, not a singleplayer game
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>>587159881
That’s a roleplay thing to say.
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>>587159562
im coping that the layers are just overfilled cause its weekend, and once the normies will go to work and it will be back to normal

ill just lvl an alt and stop when i get to westfall if redridge is just as bad as westfall was yesterday (or play another game)
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>>587159419
horse machine ranch
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>>587159761
same desu
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>>587159885
>I feel like I spend a lot of time auto attacking
Autos are 80% of a rogue damage
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>>587159562
I vastly prefer the current situation over the absolute dead worlds from launch
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Are you niggers saying our bnet tags are fully exposed on Forever if people try to friend us or block us?
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>merchant smithing recipes
>Guard's mail armor
>everything has Strength, Stamina and Defense
>except for the helm
>has Agility and Stamina
WHY??? These new crafted sets seem to be mixed up for their headpieces. The Veteran's set as well had Agility and Stamina but now on the headpiece it's Strength and Stamina.
Is this some balancing thing so you don't only focus on one stat? Not sure if I should get the Veteran one now because it feels weird to have the head from a different set...
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Im gonna have to start begging people to quest with me straight up, no friends and no 4chan guild on ally pvpiss..
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>>587159818
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>>587159761
What's crazy is that I look like this
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>>587159982
Should have rolled with me...
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last night, my EU tradechat layer analposted for 2-3 hours straight

i literally left to do 3 druid quest chains and came back 1-2 hr later and they were still at it

some of you lads are alright
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Un-fucking believable. Amateur hour at blizzard.
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It’s crazy how completely disconnected from the core wow experience retail guys are. If they don’t like running dungeons and they don’t like questing what do they play any version of wow for
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gonna be fun looking back at the doomposters in a month and seeing that they were completely right
oh well, my 7 day trial will be up soon.
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>>587160043
In a few weeks even the normal megaservers are gonna be dead, not risking it on RP soz
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>>587160084
Yeah on eu everything on English yet there’s spam from Nordic countries italos and russians
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finally back home in loch modan from that depressing darkshore environment
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>>587159725
Because warrior is a hunter pet in wpvp without having a healslut on your dick 24/7.
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>>587160097
Any diehard Retail player is only doing Forever right now because Retail is on one of its worst patches ever. Forever is not the type of WoW they like, but they have no other choice right now.
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>>587160135
Normal is the most popular server tho and no-one is rolling on PvP as latelet and get farmed by bored lvl 60s
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>>587160181
they will start doing stat squishes like they do on retail
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DANSK GILDE???
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>>587157764
I have five level 10 on alliance PvP and one level 13 on horde RP PvP (dead serv)
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>>587159748
>food analogy
do amerifats really?
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>>587160181
this guy has to be some of the most performative pseuds i have seen around recently in the video essay sphere

literally using the word "interfacing" and "onboarding" incorrectly because they are scientific sounding cool words he heard, or he just has a clanker write his script because the clanker always loves to use retarded words that make no sense in the context.
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>got a new piece of loot in deadmines
>some cloth legs that give strength
>everyone stops the run and asks aloud who the fuck this is even for
>everyone passed on it thinking it was for someone else
Is this the soul?
>>587160120
I’ve been shitting on doomers and avatarfagging and enjoying the game but yeah I’m never playing it again after this is up fuck giving this company money
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>>587157764
>still level 6
I should just wait for tbc forever
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>Saw a Gnome with rez sickness and his PvP flag up.
>Killed him with my Tauren.
>He made a Horde character just to tell me he was walking to his kid.
>I moo him.
>He calls me a coward.
>I moo him.
>writes that he would crush your head irl
>report him

Was also my first pvp kill in Forever, lmao.
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>>587160120
According to the census site some servers already dropped like 30%
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>>587127248
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>>587160378
wooow first time feeling that adrenaline dopamine rush huh??? Retard
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In 2005 Vanilla Wow helped me get through my parents divorce. Now, 21 years later, Forever is there for me while i go through my own divorce.
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>>587160429
Moo.
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What professions should I go on my hunter? Not sure if I want to go skin/lw or something like herb/alch
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>>587160417
why are you trying so hard to shill your general?
>>587160436
wow epic updoot
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>>587160476
too many is huntard and sk/lw the market is flooded if u do herb alch u can tap the market n make bank
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>>587160436
Do people really fall for the marriage meme in the big 2000's?
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>>587159761
he... he looks like me.. he's built like me... I... thank you
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>>587160436
KEK
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>>587159982
>.< P-PVP..? NA?>
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>>587159982
im on na pve rp and i keep getting invited to groups at tough quests by randoms, then i just help and give a /ty and fuck off
but i do also just watch random players health bars as i walk by to throw out heals so maybe that's why
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Yeha, fuck PVP. Its going to be a shitstorm at level 40+ when you are cramping 100 000 people into the same 4 zones. I am switching to PVE
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>>587145707
it's the `enable interact with key` in your normal in-game settings, uncheck the box to fix it



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