Previous: >>587186197>What... is this?Put simply, a simulation of Pro Evolution Soccer being competed between teams which are embodiments of boards of the 4chan imageboard. The players represent facets of each board's culture. All of the matches are AI versus AI. However, humans "manage" each team, creating their tactics and giving input during games as they happen to make substitutions and tactical changes as they see fit.https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/FAQ>Where can I watch the cup?http://isthisliv.com/4cc/stream.html (4CC)http://cytube.implying.fun/c/vgleague (VGL)http://vtleague.420699.xyz/ (VTL)>Ongoing Cupshttp://implyingrigged.info/wiki/2026_4chan_Autumn_Babby_Cup>Ongoing InvitationalsNone>Upcoming Cupshttp://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vg/_League_27_Qualifiershttp://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vg/_League_27http://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vt/_League_12>Upcoming Invitationalshttp://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Akko_League_VII:_/fluff/_Bottomed_Girlshttp://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Gaping_Openhttp://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Divegrass_Before_Christmas_7:_Melty_Under_The_Christmas_Treehttp://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Tag_Team_Cup_7http://implyingrigged.info/wiki/LAN_Party_the_4th:_Ultimate_Kartin_Tourney>Wiki:http://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Main_Page>Sekkrit Code37pebis>DLC Passworddivegrass>statshttp://isthisliv.com (4CC)http://sql.implying.fun (VGL)>Booruhttp://isthisliv.com/booru>VOD Archivehttp://implying.fun>Other videoshttp://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Videos>PES Infohttp://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Pro_Evolution_Soccer_2017http://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Pro_Evolution_Soccer_2019http://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Pro_Evolution_Soccer_2021>roster quiz (VGL)http://vglquizsloppa.pages.dev>Previously/mlp/ 90+4'd/3/ threw to promote /y//u/ lifelongs big rapedsoubiden yet to make a ruling'd 'o
if /u/ wanted to promote they should had won more
>>587223384Forced meme
>but what if it happened to another teamit didn't>but what ifidk what if I was the president? what then huh?
Soon
>>587223384You can now resume your VGL discussion until Friday.
If /3/ didn't want to get banned they shouldn't have thrown
FREE MY NIGGA GUNT HE DINDU NUFFIN
your team promoted on less than 5 points? doesn't count according to /4ccg/
a win is a win, you can't blame another team for your loses
So if /3/ did what they apparently did against a team like /a/, /sp/, /v/ or /pw/, would you all be defending /3/ too?
>>587223632this reads like a ramen post
Quick, every act normal and not like their asshole is flaming raw
>>587223636qdr?
>>587223638
>>587223860whore
>>587223384My hero
>>587223776>>587223632
>>587223638but ro16 isn't happening until saturday
>>587223860fridge body
Why are we acting like "haha, I want this nonmedal to score in a meaningless game" has never been done before?
>>587223976Garbage Day is the most important day of the cup.You get to see /u/ and /mlp/ again.
Why are we acting disingenuous?
>>587223920Shiho isn't that fat
So much rape in this thread
>>587224102I accept your concession
>>587223920finally some good posts here
Throwing should be legal if it's funny.
>>587223920terrible post>>587223860good post
>>587224049>>587224102raped
>>587224037disingenuous faggot
>>587224037Wouldn't you at least want to be able to get the ball to that nonmedal for that?
Considering getting meaningless non medals to score is very funny and based I know that my heel team managing ass is going to bench all 5 medals on game 3 now. Thanks for showing me the way, /3/
>>587224296I say this
>>587224371can't believe it's about to be the 5th VGL without them
>>587224371sex with the one on the left
This is the only reason i think /3/ threw and everyone is ignoring it
>>587224486if you already qualified, why not?
>>587224371does "you just know" apply here?
>>587224648their management, despite being to a final, is still newcould be possible they just shat themselves trying to force a gunt goal, their livemanagement was atrocious in summer which is why they're here in the first place
i'm not saying first bait should be thrown into a volcano, but i'm not not saying it either
>>587224462want to cry more that a team with no obligation to try didn't bail /u/ out?
>>587224804didnt the /3/ manager run that invitational trying to recreate the first cup and amke /sp/ win?
>>587224804They knew what they were doing and they are just playing the clueless retard card just to save face.
>>587224663I thought I would have to practice good sportsmanship like the rules state. Good to know it's just a suggestion
>>587224804Come on do you really think they're that stupid?
>>587224806I'm saying this.Throw all of first bitch into a volcano
I can't take any post that says "disingenuous" seriously
>>587224804it's not their first cup.
Nigga how is getting fucked over by other teams throwing real? Like just win 7 games in a row bro just like don't lose nigga
>>587224907Yeah. And then Benjamin Netanyahu personally intervened to make sure /u/ got knocked out. It's all a conspiracy.
>>587224889that didn't involve any livemanagement, that was just watching PES do its thing (and /sp/ didn't even win)t. was there for both 2011 and 2012
>>587224970This post is disingenuous.
>>587224998I'm saying this
Who are the heels and faces still left in this thing? The big markets are pretty much all dead.
>>587224990>their
>>587224672Yes, but not for her
>>587225072no /pol/ is stuck in fetus
disegigidus
>>587225193their.
>>587224907>>587224961>>587224990Guys. Let's be real, they lost to a /trv/ manager that wasn't even there in a do or die game back in Summer, these are not geniuses of the game.
>>587224990what's wrong with this? the sliders look normal
>>587224804if /3/ management is genuinely dumb enough to think what bird is describing is good management they should not be wasting weekends managing fake divegrass anyway
>>587225234Slut
>>587225234what a slut
>>587224990>possession wide to give the ball to the medals that they have on the field who are in wide areasliterally fine>high defensive line press with gegenpressliterally fine
>>58722538175% of the cup wouldn't be here in that case
>>587225321>>587225492Now stop retending.
>>587225179>Faces/lit/, /an/, /wg/, [s4s]>Heels/aco/, /jp/, /vm/, /cgl/>simultaneous Heel & Face/qst/ (NUEVO ELITE but also accusation of being a troonboard)/3/ & /y/ (the last two threads)
>>587225314It's less about being good at virtual footy and more about being clueless enough to not understand what their tictacs is trying to do and how it would look like to everyone else.
>>587225672>counter target on the strikersand the problem is?
>>587225672wanting the strikers to be up is bad now?
>>587224804Even /s4s/ and /xs/ would struggle to defend this. /3/ have proven to be competent as managers. They knew exactly what they were doing.
>>587224990>high DL with gegen>but all the forwards are counter targeted so they don't contribute at all to the high press>literally telling the entire team to press as high as possible without any of the actually high players pressing>poss short when the entire frontline is counter targeted
You are all conveniently forgetting that /y/ literally opened their ass wide for /3/ to score with guntDid they also throw despite the stakes being against them?
>>587225672>the thinks the no counter-target defense rule applies to strikersretarded newfag
>>587225853holy retard
>>587225810I mean different situation, /y/ here is not to blame at all. They were up 3-0 when they did that at 80 mins.
>>587225810Yes, we should KILL /y/[r9k] will take their place in Winter.Everyone is happy.I have SOLVED this dilemma, and will be disposing of a mexican soon.
>>587225726How are jp, vm and cgl heels
>>587225726You could probably move /cgl/ to heel and face
>>587225726And the other teams?
>>587225934so you don't know...
>>587225908Isn't that throwing according to le rules?
>>587225810they were up by 3 at 80. if /3/ wasn't throwing and still ended up down 3 at 80, and then made all these changes, nobody would care.
>>587225934Namefags I don't like are involved with them
avoiding the 9 point curse is just that important
>>587226016you tell me>>587226031>letting random fags live in your headseems like a (You) problem to me
i bet sou is here shitposting without trip instead of actually watching the replays to make a ruling
>>587226040the curse isn't real, the elite champion just had 9 points. anyone that copes with a group stage loss by saying they were avoiding 9 points is just a pussy. win all 7 of your games like a man.
>>587225321they rested three medals when they really didn't need to, actively made their problems worse during the match, and their response to those problems hurting them was "please stop, actually no please continue"completely unjustifiable behavior
>>587226164He's shitting his pants.Trust me, I have a source.
>>587226245t. his pants
>>587224648The export is bad but this is just blatant.
>>587226031is that the VGL spirit invading 4CC or has it been 4CC behind the 'farming all along?
#/u/4KWABoTY
we need actual words from the /3/ manager
>>587226338Both, it's a cycle
>>587226405still 'bellum
>>587226410>>>/3/1034461this is all we have so far, in his place i'd also keep my mouth shut and handle stuff with /admin/, /4ccg/ is not the place to be for this kind of stuff
>>587226410No we don't, the game's over, move on
>>587226731I'm not racist when I'm horny
>>587226731>draw a white girl>paint her black
>>587226731fat nigger
>>587226731my cock is more progressive and woke than i am
I AM NOT CRAZY! I know he threw the match. I knew it was 3 benched medals. One CMF after 2 forwards. As if I could ever make such a mistake. Never. Never! I just – I just couldn’t prove it. He covered his tracks, he got that idiot from Australia to lie for him. You think this is something? You think this is bad? This? This chicanery? He’s done worse. That Spring match! Are you telling me that a team just happens to recover from 2-1 like that? No! He orchestrated it! /3/! He put Gunt in attacking! And I saved him! And I shouldn’t have. I challenged him as an equal opponent! What was I thinking? He’ll never change. He’ll never change! Ever since Winter 2019, always the same! Couldn’t keep his hands out of the goal net! But not our /3/! Couldn’t be precious /3/! Stealing them blind! And HE gets to be underdog? What a sick joke! I should’ve stopped him when I had the chance! …And you, you have to stop him! You—
>>587227289KEK
>>587227064but enough about you
>>587227289
>>587227289unironically their argument
>>587227289kekypow
>>587227289Lol
>>587227289/u/sisters... our response?
>>587227289To think that they could've just beaten /y/ and we wouldn't be here discussing this.
>>587228147shitty team gotta cope
>>587228147The entire matter has never been about /u/ but you fags are so raped by trannies and yuriniggers that you think can't think beyond it.
Disgrace of /3/jon
>>587228582would've been the Disgrace of Gi/y/ón as /y/ were the home team
>>587228720but /u/ will never admit that
>>587228720but /admin/ will never admit that
>>587228147This. I really wonder why /u/ didn't just beat /y/.
>>587229019why /3/ cant beat /y/?
>>587229019I think /u/ genuinely just got unlucky with PES the entire group, the first time they had a game go their way it didn't matter in the grand scheme of things. They were Keeperbabbed twice in a row.
>>587227759idgiwhy undertale
>>587229130didn't have to, either that or /y/ are just that good
>>587229184skeleton
>>587229327luca isn't a skelly
The real question is, WHY IS SOU TAKING SO MUCH TO CHECK THE TAPES?
>>587228147You know, I think I remember /jp/ benching all 5 medals on day 3 not too many tournaments ago and nobody saying a word.
>>587229412Me. I'm his pants. I can't keep holding all of his shit. He keeps changing me.
>>587229451this has happened several times too but only NOW it's a problem somehow, wonder why?
>>587229451Tell me when jay did this with 3 CT strikers while also keeping themselves on +2 as they're getting fucked. It's easy to say that no match is rigged when you pick one specific thing to shitpost about.
Autumn 26, whateva happened there?
Is the top half of the bracket the most fraudulent half bracket ever?
>>587229451which match so I can check if it is true?
>>587229412Wait 3 business days as he's probably busy posting here with the trip off.
>>587229451According to isthisliv the last time a team benched all of its medals was /int/ in Winter 21 against /biz/, with both teams having confirmed advancement. Prior to that, /sci/ and /sp/ both benched all 5 medals in Summer 18, both teams again having advanced by that point. /int/ again benched all 5 medals in that same Summer 18 when they played /tv/, with /int/ already having advanced and /tv/ already being dead at that point. /int/'s aggregate in those two matches is 1 goal for, 11 goals against which I think is neat.So if /jp/'s was more recent than that tell isthisliv to fix it.
>/3/: I'm already through and want to see gunt score (:>/4ccg/: @SOU @FBI @POTUS @NINTENDO DO SOMETHING
I wrote up entire paragraphs trying to paint my opinion on the situation, realized it was tainted with my personal biases and shortcomings, AND that nobody would've given a shit anyways, so why should I bother.You'll get this AMAZING idea from me instead: Let's become a cytube cup.>people on the cytube are nise>people in the thread arent nise>cup will become niser and dimeser (important)Infallible logic. Come at me bro
>>587230484you forgot @realdonaldtrump
>>587223384>file deletedit wasn't even NSFW you whore of a janitor. checking to see if i'm b&
>>587224049didnt he say hed be too busy to do garbage or wrestling this timehell hes dipped 2 stream days he was going to aswell/u/ wont get to see the salty runback
Now that the group stage is over, post'em:>best game>best goal>best model>best kits>best new music>biggest upset>biggest kwab>biggest spaghetti>pulitzer>thoughts on the new teams
>>587231760>gamemlp - s4s>goalRigged Polls against h>modelCube Blender>kitseh>new musicI liked wsr's rave music and vm's sick goalhorn>upsetses winning over mlp, easily>kwabstill /u/>spaghettidouble beep boop from Rance and Ugly Bastard>new teamsthey'll get better with time
>>587231440Are u banned now?
>>587230265>int/'s aggregate in those two matches is 1 goal for, 11 goals against which I think is neat.So mass medal benching is throwing, got it.Also, which game was the last big throw, the one where for the last like 20 min they just completely colluded with matching formations and shit?
Let's be real: even if /3/ did throw the match, we know Sou doesn't have the balls to punish them
>>587234739this is the unfortunate truth
>>587234739He'll give them a slap on the wrist to appear to be doing something.
>>587234739We know sou doesn't have balls, or else he would have actually raped by now.
>>587234739And Sou will see this and not argue he'll just act raped and cope.
>>587224037Because third worlder yurifags will be raped about this until spring, then fail to beat two dogshit teams again
>>587234739What punishment do you want? /3/ won their two games and were safe to do whatever they want for the last one even if it was a shitpost to get gunt to score or fuck over /u/>>587229625Unironically newfag /u/ testers and raped managers (the shadow manager threw once too )
>>587236916>>587237195Raped third worlder crying about other raped third worlders
But when /gbfg/ did it, /4ccg/ was silent.
I just wanted to score
>>587237541VGL throwing: /gbfg/ putting GKs on corners. Have it not affect the match at all. Have such little effect that the team it "impacted" won the VGL anyways. Still cause an entire referendum in the VGL about what constitutes throwing and at what point should managers be punished. 4cc throwing: A team blatantly trying to lose by as much as possible. So obvious even chat could tell. Affects the outcome of a group. Causes FB and /4ccg/ to jump throw every hoop possible to justify throwing and let managers do whatever they want.
>>587238195a team blatantly trying to get their funny meme player to score a goal in a match that was meaningless to said team*
>>587238880No, he had it right the first time, illiterate-kun.
>>587238951People are just being really dense about this for bait.
>>587239083I know, it's just hilarious trying to use that excuse when there wasn't a single part of the team that was set up to score at all, much less gunt. You'd think if they wanted an alibi they'd be able to stick to it.
>>587228417no one would give a shit if those throw killed /lit/ or /g/
>>587239309I still would've given a shit
>>587239309Nah, if it's allowable for it happening to /u/ or /g/ or fucking /r9k/ even, then it's liable to happen to /myteam/ at some point. Why would I not want to cut that off at the pass?
>>587238195No one cries if a heel team gets fucked or fucked over. Such is the price of being a heel team. If /mlp/, /u/, /sp/, /pol/, /vt/, get fucked over in favor of a face team like, say, /s4s/ or /y/, people will mock the heel for being defeated.Such is the price of being a heel, and the sooner heels learn to accept their status as heels, the sooner they can grow into those roles to be more fun. Maybe someday those heels can even outgrow their heel status to become faces. Hell, look at /lgbt/.
>>587239587Just win your matches bwo
>>587239587The easy solution is to win your games
>>587239670>>587239678I accept your concession
>>587238195What was the referendum result, did it impact anything?
>>587239678>>587239670Nah, getting through on the minimum and saving your actual effort for the KOs is the smarter play. Why do you think 9pointers rarely win cups?
>>587239774>did it impact anything?lollmao even
>>587239875What's the stats on this? Do 9 pointers win less cups than their % of appearances in knockouts suggest?
>>587239774No they just said not to do that. Like I said what would it even impact, the team it "fucked over" won the cup anyways lol. Just one of those things they softbanned like official +2 bowls.
>>587239875I think 9 pointers rarely win cups because there are very few 9 pointers per cup so statistically it's more likely the fourteen 4, 5, 6, and 7 pointers will win than the two 9 pointers.
>>587239670>>587239678They won the same number of matches.
>>587240080Sounds like it was a big waste of time for the vgl deliberating over all that
>>587240224So what, 6-6-6-0 groups happen too
>>587240361Then winning your matches doesn't change shit, apparently. All the more reason to have tighter tiebreaker and anti-collusion rules.
>>587240428It does change shit, the bottom 6 pointer didn't win all their matches
>>587240261Yes it was especially considering the manager is FroggerP tier and didn't really know what he was doing. In retrospect it was funny because /vrg/ were the ones who threw a big stink over that, and then post-cup there was the big stink over /vrg/ using different auto-mentalities for a couple matches. Equal and opposite melties.
>>587240494Won as many as the ones that moved on. Wins don't matter.
>>587239628If they were legitimately fucked over then yes it's funny but not when it feels cheap, Let's review.Autumn 25? It was funny when legbutt upset them to send /a/ over them, Nobody was trying to throw.Spring 26? They forgot to turn on fluid for 70 minutes like retards, Nobody was trying to throw.This is just /u/ legitimately making an escape and a team fucking them over by benching 2 medals they didn't need to bench and not making a better setup to get a funny meme player to score with, they literally noticed /y/ struggling to score and turned on +2 and kept telling Bird to keep it on. I don't even like /u/ so I hate that some of you fags are legitimately making me have to defend them here.
>>587240504>the manager is FroggerP tierOne of two guys who 7-0-0'd the prestigious VGL btw
>>587239628>a face team like, say, /y/You can't be a face team when you have no identity outside of your manager. They don't even crash the game anymore, there's nothing I can do to tell them apart from any other weeb team. Even their music is more-focused /jp/ shit.
the main page says that day 5 is live btw
>>587240579But would they have advanced if they won more matches?
>>587240969Read it as "But who would have advanced if they won more games?", so rewording it properly for what was actually written:All three would have.
>>587240812One of four guys ackshually. I'll never shit on him for VGL22 though. He really did stumble onto the best non-meta tactic. I just hope he doesn't try to force it again with all the meta back next VGL.
>>587240184also winning seven basically coinflip matches in a row is really really hard
>>587241276Equinox made PES15 his bitch so the coinflip would always go his way.
>>587241232He also caused /bag/ to win the kwaboty
pay the rent
>Larp Archive>Larptubers>L@rpmaster>Larp Musume>Larp MoonWhen did the nips lose the way?
>>587243108>Games - Analogfvark...
>>587243326Larpnonymous...
>>587243108I am once again asking for Token Ranbu to get a team.
>>587246275
It’s guaranteed if you only bet on pures. You can’t loseYou take advantage of the different odds between bookmakers. You lose one bet and win the other, but the winning bet nets you more than you wagered in total, so you always make money
>>587249927uoh genius cunny
>>587243108I still don't think Comiket is a good con.However, Tokyo Big Sight is my plan for the new /cgl/ stadium for Winter, though.
https://fixvx.com/PitViperPatriot/status/2119206674607260122
sluttiest mare
/uma/ hours
More like reddit hours
holy shit, this might be the most dimeless knockouts everthank god its a babby
I love reddt hours
>>587255485You sound raped
Thug hours
vgl hours
>>587243108So what happens when vtubers inevitably end up outpacing BA?
>>587258990NothingNo empire lasts foreverLife moves on
/vm/ v /jp/ will be the real final
>/m/>/u/>/mlp/So many KWAB's this tournament
>>587261006Name a team who failed to promote but put in a gallant effort.
>>587261381NTA, but /xs/.
How to decide game of the tournament1. Did /mlp/ play [s4s]? If yes, go to 2. Otherwise go to 3.2. /mlp/ vs [s4s]3. A high scoring memefest
>>587261381/i/
>>587240504>In retrospect it was funny because /vrg/ were the ones who threw a big stink over that, and then post-cup there was the big stink over /vrg/ using different auto-mentalities for a couple matches. Equal and opposite melties.It's always the pot throwing the biggest melites about kettles
>>587261451I remember seeing the mulp guy(s) saying PES didn't want them to win that /s4s/ match but the goal they scored was a gift if I ever saw one
>>587223384Why did the pic got deleted?
>>587261451Game of the tournament will be a knockout game like every cup these past few years
>>587261381/xs/, /r9k/ was a good auto that could have advanced in many other scenario>>587261521lmao
>>587262017/xs/ genuinely got screwed over by the sinistar penalty, if they had avoided it and got that 90+er from the 7 skaters forward they would've likely advanced.
>>587261381I don’t think anyone is unlucky
>>587262017The /i/ manager just can't get anything to work on 17, but he did try his best.
>>587240613>This is just /u/ legitimately making an escape andThis is just /u/ crawling back to 4 points and having to wait for the last game's result. In this cup alone we had 3 other teams die on 4 points, /fit/, /xs/ and /r9k/. This also happens to be the second "cup" in a row that /xs/ dies on 4 points, which is pretty fucking tragic.There's a reason why we say that your fate is not in your hands if you go to grip weekend on 1 point, other teams have their own agency.>did /3/ have an agency to throwThat should be the question, but instead you're all acting like /y/ had 99:1 betting odds and /u/ somehow was owed to promote before the match even started
>>587262383I said it before but /i/ feel genuinely cursed when the pes is 17. everything that could go wrong, always goes wrong for them.
>>587262598You are just friends with /i/ management. Bad teams consistently do bad and need everything to go right to promote.
>>587262715I don't think I've ever seen them promote out of a 17 cup and I don't think what they had was that bad.
What is the effective life span for a manager? You can see from /cgl/ and /his/ that new managers with plenty of energy can improve quickly and do well. You also have a “walking dead” group of managers with no energy left that just keep on going - /an/, /c/, /fit/, /h/, /i/, /lit/, /m/, /tv/, /wg/
>>587262848Every bad team has someone complaining that they were just unlucky or got PESed. In a single match or a single cup that can be true, over multiple the problem is the team.
>>587223384>>>/soc/35539987Weedman?! What the fuck?!
>>587264307thefalseflagking.jpg
>>587263830/jp/ and /sp/ success also driven by new management.
>>587264647And a backroom full of gay people
>>587263830no such thing. You just can't effectively calculate that. not even per average because margin data fucks it uo too much.VGL has 2 cases of the exact same manager since the team's iteration (12 years and 0 stars) and then a team which cycled through 3 managers in the span of a single year (star on debut).
>>5872638303 years
>>587262561It's very simple, if you make it so obvious that everyone starts questioning what happened, there's a problem. It's not a hard concept to grasp. Everyone noticed what was going on, the malice was clear, and trying to play clueless now that it has blown over is just pathetic. The fact is, they forced a result that would have eliminated the other team no matter what. For example, even with a draw, /y/ wouldn't have advanced.
>>587265131This is probably true
>>587265213>Everyone noticed what was going on, the malice was clearwas it really? their nightly was sent in with their medals benched, /pw/ could've won and /3/ would've played the tactics as they were anywayjust seems to me like they tried to meme a little too hard and it blew up in their face, it's only suspected of matchfixing because /u/ happened to be the ones on the outside looking in
>>587262561>>587265415Bodied that freak
>>587265415It’s suspected of match fixing because of what they ran.
>>587265415Dude. But aside from that, the malice was there no matter what. This means that /3/ decided on their own that the /pw/ - /u/ match result was never going to matter to either team, because they chose to ruin both teams' chances of surviving no matter what. How hard is that to understand?
>>587265526>>587265623god forbid someone have fun and try and make a meme player score, that has never happened before
>>587263830isthisliv lists 388 managers with a total of 423812days managed, leading to an average of 1092.299 days and a median of 703 days per manager.
>>587265415/pw/ was on 4 points too, but it was very clearly either aimed at /u/ dying or /y/ promoting, probaly both.You don't have to pretend. Look at the CTs, look at the +2 calls after getting scored on.>but they were already through and guaranteed to top the group so it didn't matter to them!/an/ and /jp/ played it like every other match. They could've fucked around too but they didn't. It was not a giant skull type of match, it was do or die for /y/, and instead of /y/ fighting for it, you had /3/ just giving the win to them. And then you had the goatse formation. It really felt like a backroom deal.
>>587265415Because 90% of cup fans thought /y/ promoting over /pw/ and /u/ were funny. /3/ management decided to be epic toplads.
>>587265660>surely the best way to make this player score is to swap out the players assigned to funnel the ball to him for ones with lower stats!
>>587265660The problem is that they wanted to disguise all of it with that intention of muh meme player, but they played it so bad that everyone noticed that there was something wrong with it.
>>587265714but why does that mean malice? genuinely, /3/ management has shown nothing but a jovial attitude towards the cup, why are they suddenly mega hitler?
>>587265660There's making a meme player score and then there's blatant throwing.It's not their first run as managers. They know what they did. I don't get why you're running damage control for them.
>>587265895Because they threw
>>587265737>>587265763>>587265898>one guy criticises the /u/ narrative>three, always three, come down on himThis is so clearly a blatant /u/ psyop, it's almost as if /u/ has three managers. No one else either cares or thinks it was malicious. Get over yourselves.
>>587265895>but why does that mean malice?Because it ruins sportsmanship, they lost intentionally to fuck over or favor a different team.There were multiple ways to make it look natural, but they chose the most obvious method to throw.
>>587265898Some cup circlejerk obviously encouraged /3/ to do the funny thing
>>587265714>/pw/ was on 4 points too, but it was very clearly either aimed at /u/ dyingUh-huh
>>587265895Because they decided all of a sudden that the previous match was never going to matter. They went in with the full intention of gifting /y/ the promotion, nullifying any result from that match. How hard is to understand that also /pw/ would've suffered the same fate?
>>587266042let's not get ahead of ourselves, none of /u/'s managers can write english that well
>>587266042schizophrenia
>>587266146Oh so now we're bringing /pw/ back into this again instead of>this is clearly meant to spite this particular team that I like
>>587266146>How hard is to understand that also /pw/ would've suffered the same fate?and that is malicious why? does /3/ management hate /pw/ too?
>>587266212>nowlol
The /3/ /u/ situation has more talk than the entire vgl season
>>587266291>and that is malicious why?because they intentionally lost against /y/ to let them promote over either of the remaining 2 teams.This is malice.
>>587266212>>587266291No one is talking about "hate." How hard is it to understand the concept that you, entirely on your own, decided two teams never had a chance to promote because you were going to throw no matter what, screwing them both over? How hard is that concept to understand?
If /3/ actually thought that the cup is all memes then they wouldn’t have benched their carded medal.
I hope I get to see a team the lolcows here are raped by like /vg/ pull this off in winter to see everyone here seething instead
>>587266158Its very clearly /3/ 's management and their buddies trying to dismiss themselves of any wrongdoing. For all their complaints of this being the /u/ cabal's doing, the actual /u/ managers said fuck it, nothing will be done anyway so there no point complaining
People enjoyed Tottenham almost getting relegated last season because big team getting relegated is funny. It’s not even about hate.
>>587266549>For all their complaints of this being the /u/ cabal's doing, the actual /u/ managers said fuck it, nothing will be done anyway so there no point complainingdo you seriously believe this? like genuinely, anyone can post here anonymously, it's not that hard to say one thing publicly and then seethe here
>>587266628None of the /u/ managers are literate.
>>587266628>there are no genuine anonymous opinions here it's all namefags posting without their name attached'cord lolcow moment
>>587266549If /3/ are let off it will be open season on /sp/
>>587266679then why is it always three guys that come in like "nuh uh" whenever someone calls /u/ out? it's suspicious
>>587266404/y/ intentionally let /3/ try to score a goals by spreading their players, why are they off the hook as well?>inb4 they were up 3 goals already
>>587266821because they were up 3 goals already and the setup was on /3/. they wouldn't have done that if they were losing.
>>587266628I've been enjoying reading all of this since yesterday, but yeah my sentiment is that I am fully aware that they'll get at best a slap on the wrist and nothing would happen over it. I've been here for too long to think otherwise.
>>587266805Why do you do the same for /3/?
>>587266391To be honest, /u/ and the VGL both are brown third worlders. So this shitfest or the signups shitfest are basically the same, just endless back and forth yelling that will lead to no change anyway.
>>587266876Doesn't matter, they broke off the rules as well, they could have lost the match in the last 10 mins due to that change
how it feels being a /u/ fan rn
>>587267152Instead they scored a 4th one LMAO, at least try
>>587266557Yeah, coming off the anni hyp Autumn is the one cup I want to see /mlp/ do well.I'm still laughing my ass off that it was fucking bury ebil that killed them with 90'+4.
4cc finally gets some discussion and it's because of /u/.the real protagonists of both cups.
>>587266628True but that doesn't prove everyone who disagrees with you is your boogeyman boyfriend
>>587267281And? By the book they literally gaped themselves open, they also committed a sin even if it didn't work, but the people complaining conveniently ignore that fact and focus on just /3/s actions
>>587267572I jacked off to that glasses bitch so much like a decade ago
>>587267612my boogeyman boyfriend is flesia though
>>587267493Anni into PCH into Autumn is always such a blast. I remember watching the cup on Friday during the PCH room party, and then the infamous /gd/ match at the charity auction.
>>587266427Maybe you should argue your position better then
>>587267670buckets of cum were wasted on this one.>tfw don't have my old lewd folder
When are we getting high quality commentating like this?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lx_9bdspvh8
Consider this: If /pw/ has won, /3/ would have run the same tactic regardless. Yuriniggers just have big victim complex because they're secretly trans or worse - brown.
the whole crux of this throwing argument relies on /3/ management being a bunch of criminal masterminds who hate /u/ and specifically /u/ with a conspiracy that involves several teams when they're just retards trying to make a forced meme score
I find it sad that /3/ management so desperately wanted to be the popular meme managers.
>>587268426Could just be overcorrection after /3/ used to be /u/ sockpuppets, they are trying so hard to prove they are independent that they might've lost the room here.
>>587268302>he wants D*tch commentators
>>587268360The whole crux of the argument is that they are fucking retards who thought everyone joking about /jp/ throwing to kill /mlp/ was serious.
>>587268426I find it rather impressive really. In the process of doing so, they actually managed to become of the biggest heels in the cup, surpassing /u/ itself.
>>587268561>surpassing /u/ itself.Let's not get ahead of ourselves here, nobody surpasses them and /mlp/.
>>587268316You're just proving the point, retard/3/ threw to promote /y/ but you're too focused on /u/>>587268561nah they're safe, Gunt and their audio export and 103's drawings are making them a face no matter what
>>587268626/mlp/ is the single undisputed heel because their fanbase fundamentally enjoys spreading their bullshit and being obnoxious as fuck and ignore everyone's complaints. they're also the most numerous. like you fucking wish /yourteam/ had as many flairs as they do. you fucking wish you could drown the chat in spam from your people./u/ and /vt/ are not even close.
>>587268504>you know I think that D*tch commentators are alright.
>>587268561/mlp/, /sp/, /u/, /pw/ and /vg/ are still the teams people love to hate
>>587268561Ok buddy
>>587268561This is easily one of the most retarded things I've read in a while
>>587268651If active, unapologetic match fixing doesn't make someone a heel I don't know what does
>>587269063>If active, unapologetic match fixing doesn't make someone a heel I don't know what doesreputation. /u/'s reputation is far worse than /3/'s. People enjoy the result because they hate u/ more than /3/.There would be an argument to be made if any of the popular teams were on the receiving end but not /u/ and not /pw/ either.Everyone's gonna forget about it soon and go back to posting fortnite-dancing Gunt.
This is conspiracy, and everyone is on it
>>587268498>the noted /sp/ plants, down to the inherited plumber mentality>/u/ sockpuppetsI know you guys are used to making it all about yourselves, but I think this is a step too far
>>587268504I mean, als je dat echt wil, then I'm right here.
>>587268302That's just danteeeeeeh danteh with the header
>>587269340>he doesn't remember MS's /3/
Aren't the /3/ managers /sp sockpuppets anyway?Was this a JB mandate?
>>587266628I seriously do. /u/'s management are old and jaded. They know they aren't popular, and because of that nothing will be done with this. /3/'s management is new and enthusiastic, they want to try to sweep this under the rug so they can continue managing
>>587268316Projecting hours
Lets be honest here, it's not a problem /3/ threw to kill /u/. It's a problem this is their third cup and they still haven't fixed Utah Teapot having twosided toggled off.
Show me the exact rule listed here https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Appendix:Rules that /3/ brokeMaybe next time, don't suck ass in your first two games, then you don't have to rely on outside help to advanceBut either way /3/ are little bitches by throwing like that and don't reserve any respect with their reddit gunt meme
>>587270004this one >>587222476
>>587270004
>>587270004>Not be a dick.Spiting a team outside of the matches is being a dick>Practice good sportsmanship.Matchfixing is not good sportsmanship>Act in the best interest of their team and the team's fans.Playing to lose is not in the best interest of the team
>>587268956That is until >>587270004
>>587270095>>587270139>>587270198that implies that /3/ were acting maliciously when they were just trying to make a forced meme score, which the board wanted to see
>>587270095>Practice good sportsmanship.extremely subjective rule that holds no ground anyway, so many other managers break that rule much harder than /3/ ever did>Act in the best interest of their team and the team's fans.You can argue that making gunt score was more important than winning
Let's be real: if this was not /u/ being affected, let's say /vr/ people would act differently and would call out /3/ more for the fact that it is the "Victim" is why some people don't care.
>>587270248>>587270249disingenuousyou know why
>>587270249so /jp/ playing a 0-0-10 with no medals so there gay buddies /cm/ could go through would have been fine sportsmanship?
>>587270457>everyone who disagrees with me is disingenuous
>>587270248>>587270249>we were trying to get one player to score by making it as difficult as possible to get him the ball
>>587270542No, it'd have been on the same level of bad. Why are you moving the post tho? It doesn't matter the team affected, it's bad regardless.
>>587270416This is true and everone knows that. But what they're also forgetting is that it was in /3/'s nightly, so more than spiting /u/ it was about promoting /y/. And everyone forgets that /u/ could've easily lost anyway and then it would've affected /pw/.People are overfocusing on /u/ because they just dislike /u/ more.
>>587270416PES is an evil witch, so I am fully expecting this exact scenario to happen for /3/ somewhere in the future.
me who would also definitely throw if it means killing a team I dislike: what /3/ did was really bad and they should get punished
>>587270570But you are disingenuous. And you know that.
The real question WHERE THE FUCK IS SOU?
>>587270753It's not the exact same scenario until a team sends a nightly meant specifically to promote someone over them.
>>587270919 STUCK IN CALIFORNIA HAHAHAHHAHAHA
The forced meme forced goal narrative kind of falls apart when you consider his ingame instructions to bird
If you were honest and just said "/3/ throwing is cool because they fucked /u/ over" instead of going through mental gymnastics to explain /y/ winning wasn't the intended result you'd look less desperate.
>>587270416TrvkeThat's why people are happy that /u/ is rotting in the fetus while /y/ is in the elites
>>587270919still reviewing the tapes. nothing ever happens
>>587270982if your only goal was to get one player to score regardless of the result why not go +2? i don't see any problem with that
>>587270969It's stuck in the hyp mines now (formerly stuck in the egg aisle)
This must be how all those vglel newfags /u/ groomed earn their keep now. Not like they'll be useful again for another 5 months anyway
>>587270982that's why the entire /3/ defense is disingenuous as fuck.They WERE throwing.>>587271097+2 is not "score more goals" on 17, I learned that after a single day of testing.
>>587269628>well this team 6 years ago was managed by a guy who was from a different board, so I'll assume going forward that it's going to be a sockpuppet still all those years laterThis is levels of reasoning that make Boris see DF in half of the teams to this day
>>587270938Of course not same exact scenario, but what I mean is that they'll be in a position just like /pw/ or /u/ where they need another team to win or draw and then PES gives them the middle finger.
>>587271097Of course when conveniently ignoring how it actually went down >>587265623
>>587271249this thread is full of 'cord lolcows who think the teams = their managers
>>587271227There are 3 other teams that went +2 this tournament.
>>587271352And one advanced to the knockouts because of it (s4s)
>>587271216You sound more mentally ill than yurifags
>>587268831It was strangely refreshing seeing /mlp/ pull themselves out of a slump for a season and dickslap every single wannabe #1 heel team back into submission for years to come. Pre-hack /vt/ was talking such a big game, they really were trying to take that spot from them only to fall way short
>>587271314why is that screenshot always used as a gotcha? the guy could've hesitated and then stuck to his guns, this is not uncommon in management for managers to second-guess themselves
>>587271301>they need another team to win or draw and then PES gives them the middle finger.That would've been normal. Literally no one would complain. It's not the first time for /u/ anyway.If /3/ ran their normal tactics (even with benching the medal and putting Gunt up) there would be no complaints.But they didn't. It's all about the setup.
>>587271570I know, because I am guessing that what after happened yesterday none will try to throw like that anyway. Or if they do they will be at least smart about it.
>>587271549Holy mental gymnastics
>>587271543Feeling called out?
>>587271660>second-guessing is mental gymnastics
>>587271314Ah yes, cytube comments
Hot take - I don't care if it's rigged, because a team I like went through, and a team I don't like died.
>>587271901the /3/ IDF would look less retarded if they actually said that instead of embarrassing themselves
>>587271853>the words of the streamer don't count because they just don't okay
If all that matters is that teams you like win, and teams you dislike die, why even both having matches at all? Just call the cup here, and declare /yourteam/ the winner. None of the matches actually matter
man the /3/ fans must be furious about their own team throwing*checks /3/ thread*huh? but they didn't act in their best interest according to /4ccg/
>>587271853This one is actual KWAB material and it coming from the real head honcho explains the ongoing campaign here
>>587272079I mean it's basically the exact same sentiment of "anonymous" posters like >>587271972
19 is alright but there sure are a lot of 442sWhat if we did a formation ban?
>>587271853actual manager doesn't care>>587272079some random namefag not involved with the team cries about it
>>587272079>explains the ongoing campaign hereUnironic farmer
>>587271901I don't care either way as well, I'm just enjoying the shitshow.I have my own team to care about.
Don't want to get eliminated?Just win 2 games at the very least, broIt's that easy
What does FK Taker 2 even do? Never see that person doing anything.
>>587272203>some random namefag not involved with the team
>>587271972There is no /3/ IDF, just namefag obsessed schizos pretending to care about /3/
>>587272427Yeah, just win 2 games, right /nikg/?
>>587272272same lol
>>587272437not listed on the manager listif you used to be manager and are not manager anymore you are a random namefagor are you saying that myuerio is responsible for /u/ not advancing from 3 babby groups in a row?
>>587272427>Just win 2 games at the very least, bro>mfw mai team couldn't win 2 games in a row to advance
If /3/ doesn’t get the point we have reached the point where Lear was better than Admin
>>587272761You sound raped.
>>587272761>Lear /admin/: culled some shitter teams nobody cares about, forcing them to get their shit together and gather actual interest>Sou /admin/: allows in dead teams no one cares about, forced PES15He already is
>>587272835We're far past them just sounding raped
>>587272761You don't need this incident to reach that point lmao
>>587272014Because there's no challenge that way. A heel still needs to be a credible threat in order for it to be a convincing heel to boo, otherwise it becomes pitiful. There is a reason people cheered for /s4s/ when they killed /mlp/ with a 90+4, because /mlp/ is a heel and a legitimate threat, every single cup they play. The 3 stars on their logo prove that. By contrast, look at /vt/ and all the times they've slipped important leads. And of course, no cup wins. Even if you don't pity them, they're not as feared/hated as /mlp/ is. That's why we play the matches.
>>587272436Extremely rarely, there will be a second free kick taker and the first free kick taker will either fake a FK and let the other one take it, or just stand there as the FK2 takes the shot. It happens way more often on 15.
>>587272943Who is they?
>>587273053/vt/ is fun to see lose because of their annoying fans and attitude
>>587273053a "heel" in nu/4ccg/ context just means a team the people here are raped by (see the newcomers from last VGL for instance)
The Bird message is more exonerating than damning in my eyes. People just assign whatever meaning they want to everything when they want to see something a certain way. And teams have proudly dicked around in matches where they are already through for as long as the cup has existed.
I guess its all being investigated and /admin/ is taking their time to make it official, but I believe that stuff is better known if it is in the open.*I was given 19$ USD to throw against /mlp/ back in 2025 4chan Winter Cup when we were leading at half time. In return, their managed would also help keep /w/ alive for another 3 years, /u/ discovered this and demanded the same deal but would only pay in CAD, so it fell through.*Boris took a job traveling around the country so there would be more interest for /4ccg/ to be in the VGL.*Suule actually speaks perfect English, he just puts on the silly accent as a joke, All of us think its really funny.>>587264307Weedman's dick is actually bigger, but he keeps insisting putting nacho cheese on it every time he takes a picture and calling it his "enchilada"
>>587273106The ones who've been crying about the outcome of group G for the past 20 or so hours
I fucking love heels
>>587273271I disagree, /vt/ isn't fun to see lose, because that means I have to see /vt/. That also means I have to hear /vt/ and that is worse than listening to Suule. It's best when they're just absent for 3 cups, like right now.
>>587273480fake trip btw
>>587273480>*Suule actually speaks perfect English, he just puts on the silly accent as a joke, All of us think its really funny.My god...
>>587273672His accent is the least of the problems with his commentary tbdesu
>>587273672suffer like G did
>>587273032>Harry I shit you not, there are secret namefags, tripfags, everywhere
>>587273672So he's not obnoxiously Mexican, and wears a giant sombrero hat?Bros...
>>587273480>/u/ discovered this and demanded the same deal but would only pay in CAD, so it fell through.Rubbish, /u/ would never be able to get their hands on a first world currency
What's this cup's least likely final?
>>587274639s4s - qst
>>587274639Which teams were the autos again?
>/aco/ have a free run to a final
>>587274639[s4s] vs /qst/
>>587274639/lit/ - /cgl/>>587274753/vrpg/ is the only auto
>>587274957lit export and management is more competent than half of the teams on that side of the bracket, easily semi-final contenders against who comes up from the other side.
>>587274957The lolitabowl would be absolute kino though.
>>587275047Ehh, I think /lit/ is a team that often gets overrated. They're not like /trv/
>>587274957>There's a possibility of /aco/ vs /h/
>>587275174well trv are elite mainstays while lit are the primordial yo-yo team, I'm just talking about the top side of the bracket, in which lit is a clear contender to get to the semi-finals>>587275278>getting hyped about piss vs shit
>>587275278/h/ beating /lit/ and /g/ or [s4s] is likely, but /aco/ beating /b/ or /y/ - I don't think so
>>587274639/y/ vs /vrpg/
>>587274957>/wg/'s Comfy is suspended for this match>/qst/'s The /qst/ Archive is suspended for this match>/cgl/'s Cospobre is suspended for this match2 bronze CMFs and 1 DMF downHow does that affect their chances?
I'm white and I don't care about this drama
>>587275636/wg/ will play better, apparentlythe other two will play worse
>>587275420>/aco/ beating /b/ or /y/ - I don't think soI want to beelieve.
>>587275636There have already been two times this cup where a team played with a medal suspended (/wg/ vs. /lit/ and /an/ vs. /tv/) and both those games were won by the team with the suspension, so they clearly have a chance.
Does anyone have a link to FB Day 5? Seems a link didn't get posted on Saturday.
>>587275978>>587100360Pardon the Autism 11/7/26https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFApg3jDmGIIt wasn't FB, It was PtA
>>587276148why did they rebrand now
>>587276280For whatever reason, Crimson couldn't host and Boris did, and every host has a different brand
>>587275047/lit/ have a danger game (for them) first up though
>>587275047lit and h are about the same level of competence.
>>587276865Not wrong, but lit is completely capable of making a deep run with this bracket, with a slight chance to make it into the finals
>>587277036Whoever wins that first match is a legitimate chance to make the final.
>>587270753I just know that if the miniscule chance happens that /3/ needs us to get a result I am hard throwing the game since that's the precedent now
>>587273631SDA updated his trip on the wiki because he forgot what it was before.
>>587274957>Thinking Man’s Bowl at the start
Is the extra card on manlets even worth it for their height reduction?
>>587279257Depends on position. Run a 175cm CB and see how far it gets you in the garbage day, but run a 175cm SS and see how far it gets you in the elite cup
>>587279257For medal cmfs the stat increase is worth it
Where the fuck is the save Weedman, I need to test
>>587279257Yes since some 2 COM combinations are genuinely goated on a few positions and it lets you take cards that otherwise be too hard bring in without losing something more valuable (ex. not having to sacrifice passing or defensive cards for setup shit like LBE or Pinpoint Cross for mid, wingmids, and FBs). Also the height loss only hits the hardest on headers which depending on the position isn't the end of the world.
>>587279942The vgl bracket doesn't have a stat increase for manlets
>>587280727thankfully this is /4ccg/ not /vglg/
>>587280802Thankfully I will never be as raped as you are
>>587280317>he doesn't get all the preset settings from the VODsSkill issue
>>587281371I already do that, but I want the official save to verify them
>>587279257I like /lit/‘s 6 medal setup, but I don’t know if it’s actually more effective
It's looking grim for /3/>t. knower
It's looking grimm for /hgg2d/>t. knower
i impregnated my zoer wife again
It's looking grim for my hairline>t. knower
Jamal...
It's looking grim for the cuckposter>t. knower
>>587282217Boris...
>>587282217Entirety of 4CC uncs...
>>587282217Woody...
hmofa wonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3SSYI2nd7w
racism but dimes
Winter 2027 is likely to feature only 4 autos or less and I wish it was 0.
>>587283101Dimeshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjefYsbtwTI
>>587282708anon... that's hmoma...
>>587283101>144km/hthe fastest horse ever recorded had only reached half of that.
>>587283827Those teams are all micro markets that will likely never have a manager again
>>587284123
>>587283827Someone's bound to turn off autobattle for /vrpg/, right?
>>587284454
>>587284387>/n/sou necromancy>/toy/probably gonna be left to die>/tg/not a huge market but big enough to stay>/vrpg/Crimson lobbying>/r9k/ if they're gonna take a vacant spotses-tier
>>587209317Looks like Jeff Gord, BDSM artist.
cloud
>>587287350raped (you)Yep, sums up this place
>>587287350>gunt win>sda yeah raped /u/>throwing cup funny>/admin/ happened>sex calle /m/ sucks
>>587287350Yeah, that pretty much sums up the last thread
>>587287350>/cgl/ finalThe cloud has spoken.
>>587287350Lmao bad team
>>587287350>lmao bad team>mad despite big group wins>weedman kwaboty apparently
Nothing can be done about it at this point but "You cannot make decisions with the explicit goal to lose matches" to the rules so that the next time this happens, people don't use "erm I don't see anything in the rules about it" as an excuse
>>587287350>weedman kwabotyThe people have spoken
>>587287350>ban /h/ throwing Does playing Rance at CF count as throwing?
>>587287691there are multiple things that can be done about it but kwabmin are just cowards
>>587287350>gay sda
>>587287705The /h/ manager would probably say yes
>>587266098I like the fifth one. Where is it from? Or is it not in the spirit of it to ask?
>>587287691/admin/ can and absolutely will do deliver punishment, but it will be nothing more than "managers are suspended for a season, team will play as auto" or "team will get no timeouts of any kind for an entire reason (aka Winter and Spring if the team does get demoted)".If such thing is done again they'll definitely get banned.It will most likely be announced during final FB
>>587288163>/admin/ can and absolutely will do deliver punishment
>>587288163>/admin/ can and absolutely will do deliver punishmentMy liege...
yuritards still raped after a day?
>>587287946It was revealed to me in a dream.Idk I saved the whole image
Stats from qualifiers are in isthisliv, only the match winners, medals, and starting 11s are in so far for the babby. In addition to /m/'s 6 game draw streak, /g/ broke a 6 game loss streak against /vr/, /c/ broke an 11 game winless streak in the fetus, /tv/ lost their 34 game scoring streak against /an/, EoS Soon lost his scoring in matches streak at 11 (tied for 3rd longest).
>>587288971'fraid so
managers for this feel?
>>587288163>/admin/ can and absolutely will do deliver punishmentChadderP sends his regards
>>587289045>/co/ still holds the scoring streak What in tarnation
>>587283101>>587284120>>587284279anon, an AI tool was used to generate this video
>>587289104/3/ managers
>>587290269Shut the FUCK up
>>587290530if it does not rig you must acquit
>>587289045>beat autopilot /int/>lose to 6 managed teams in a row>beat two autopilots to be elite againhaha, that's our /g/!
>>587287946Tractatus Logico Philosophicus
>>587289045>EoS SoonNevermind, /vmg/ was shutout in their last game in summer so he was only at a streak of 9
>>587289045will you do ff next time or should we BEE
>>587292123Not the guy who runs isthisliv but hopefully the site is done shitting its pants whenever you try to edit it so it will be back in winter hopefully. FF will be up for VGL more than 3 hours before the first match at least this time around.
>>587290905Autopilot /int/ AND the ChadderP masterclass, put some respect on the name
>>587290905/g/ could be a semi final this weekend
Futachan
>>587288163The more raped yo/u/ behave, the less people will sympathize with yo/u/, and that includes /admin/.
redditroon hours
when will /uma/, /wtg/, and /zzz/ do the blacked bowl?
>>587294604'gen...'pher...
>>587293940How do i obtain this level of schizophrenia?
/aco/'s gold looks like THIS?
>>587294757The /alg/ memorial bowl
So, if both teams throw for a giant skull match, are they both acting against the best interest of their board?
>>587296175the match has literally no stakes maybe except for avoiding qualies.you need a better angle for your bullshit.
>>587287691>"You cannot make decisions with the explicit goal to lose matches"This is worded poorly, particularly with the inclusion of the word "explicit". For something to be explicit it must be definitive, exact, and leave no room for confusion or doubt in intent. The wording makes it extremely easy to subvert the rule as long as there is a goal other than losing matches (e.g. trying to get a particular player to score a goal).
>>587296689you're right but I thought of it in 5 seconds, my point is that they need to add a rule
remove managerseverything is autoAI won't intentionally throwproblem solved
>>587296550Chuddha doesn't say that, he says "Nothing ever happens".
/u/ is still raped? move on already
>>587296325Avoiding a fetus is more stakes than /3/ had in that game, as /3/ topped the group no matter the results.>but other teams!not my problem
Arguably ensuring /y/ advances over /u/ is acting in the best interests of your team winning the cup
>>587296963>AI won't intentionally throwOkay how so you know
>>587297513this is the only genuine argument in favor of what /3/ did that anybody has made so far
>>587297513Posts that will look silly when /y/ wins the whole thing
>>587297513So is it really a case of "Is it okay to break the rules to fuck teams everyone hates?"
>>587297770Yes
>>587297770No? He’s saying /u/ is a stronger team than /y/ so eliminating them improves your odds. Nothing to do with hate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UySQNrQ3hj8
>>587268561No, when the face screws a heel they are still face. /3/ did something Austin would do to McMahon
>>587297770my team is a team everyone hates and I'm gonna start throwing now too once we are safely promoted. Maybe that will shift the tone a bit
>>587287350>lmao bad team>Raped /u/kek
>>587298687Showing solidarity with /u/ is a good way to be hated
>>587299189being hated by the most raped general on /vg/ sounds like a compliment
>>587272436I always thought that was like a designated back-up kick taker, if something happened to your first one like he was injured at the time.
>>587299189I mean if people hate you already you might as well double down.
I'm gonna send in an export with all 40 players at minimum height that's all set to be completely out of the way of the middle of the pitch and tactics that keep the maway from any opposing player with the ball, but i'm not throwing i'm meming so it's okay.
>>587299864Absolutely fucking boiling, even 24 hours later
>>587299346>xhe thinks it's just /4ccg/There's a reason nobody feels sorry for /u/ getting fucked
>>587299953Well yeah, fuckin' cocksuckers at /3/ wasted an hour of my time, not just because their team is a boring shell of it's former self, but because they decided to nullify the results of the match I had to sit through beforehand for the purpose of circlejerking some random oldfag.
>yurinegros still fuming >Autumn 25, 3 points >Spring 26, 3 points>Autumn 26, 4 pointsLMAO more testers than cup wins, their best chance to promote in half a year was begging /3/ to play a game like their life depended on it.
>>587297770Then I'm just gonna do it when I can fuck over teams everyone likes until it's banned as a practice. Not because of MUH JUSTICE, I just enjoy being a shitstirrer.
>>587300324You team is rarely in the position to choose. I know who you are.
>4CCHyp references ancient shit from before you were born.Low energyTalk show hates everythingCommentators are all ESL, gay or gay ESLManagers throw matches with no consequences >VGLLow effort hypeTeams get approved and culled at any momentCommentators, if you have any, talk about raping dead childrenTeams cheat and win stars >VTLHyp for every matchHigh quality presentationGood streamers and commentatorsCaretakers not allowed to sub medals at all
>>587300158at least the mask is finally off now, we knew all along
>>587297483They're acting to fuck over the other board, as going to a fetus means you get more games and thus is the more desirable outcome. As such, it's incredibly poor sportsmanship designed to fuck over fans more than anyone else.In fact, in that situation playing for anything other than a draw is lacking in the spirit of the gamer, as it ensures both sides more game to play and thus more bang for the fans' buck.
>>587299189we are already hated so nothing changes
>>587300508
>>587300443When did I specify that I'd only do it when /myteam/ was safe?
>>587297691Australia once considered doing something similar in a cricket tournament to ensure England got knocked out.
>>587300915Typical australian banter
>>587300025>xheIs this the same faggot who's always schizoing out over the /llsifg/ manager?
>>587300915Germany and Austria also did that in the Disgrace of Gijón in 1982, where both teams played against each other and forced a draw because it meant advancement for both teams. This game is the reason why these days the final two games in a group of 4 are now played at the same time
>>587301409xhe is a pretty common way to refer to people who are confused about what gender they are (e.g. transbians), it's not something that guy owns the rights to
>>587301657>Germany and AustriaThat's a strange way to spell /int/ and /gd/
>>587298687>implying (you) will ever be safely promoted
>>587301657>multi track streaming for grip weekend Fvark...
>>587301738Nobody else seems to have trannies on their mind 24/7 like you though
>>587298687/po/....
>>587301779they were through after two games in Summer
>>587301891You're the only one feeling called out enough to reply though
What I learned from /y/ vs /3/ is: Rapedy rapedy raped
>>587302051So you're one of /a/, /d/, /his/, /sci/, /v/ or /vg/. Probably one of the latter two, given you claim to be hated.
>>587300605>going to a fetus means you get more games and thus is the more desirable outcome.terrible bait, should I also try to get knocked out of Winter to get more games in Spring?
>>587302158>no uRaped
>>587302676unironically yes
>>587302725We don't sign our own posts here, brother
>>587302676The original scenario implied both teams were already eliminated from promotion in a babby, this isn't something happening in a vaccum or random game. If you're not able to move on you should try to maximize your number of games in any other way you can.
>>587302889Or I could maximize my chances of winning the next elite by avoiding fetus. That’s what’s actually in the best interest of my team.
>>587303039The absolute best interest of your team is winning the Elite from the fetus, as it gives you the most possible games and thus serves your fans the best, while also giving the best outcomes. If you're not angling for that, you're a shit-tier manager.
>>587302549/vg/ yeah
>>587303219Okay but what do you do after you win/stay elite, drop down to the babby again because it'll get your team more matches?
>>587303219“You should attempt to demote so you can promote again” is the complete opposite of fair play and sportsmanship you claim to be advocating for.
>mfw trying to explain to my waifu about how /4ccg/ works
I'm so arrogant, I'm going to test for the quarter finals instead
>>587303731Test?
>>587303881YOUR MIC
>>587303881YOUR MIGHT
>>587296550Wise words from BUDDHABellum the ENLIGHTENED
It's going to be a weird winter VGL without SantabellumIt's just like finding out Santa doesn't exist IRL :(
>>587299038raping this bee
Raping is wrong
rape isn't real, just consent lol
Homura should be raped again
>>587305731But it feels SO GOOD
>>587306183she wanted it
>>587304970This was fun; let's do this again next VGL.haha...
Please 4CC-sama give us some commentators
>>587306997Proofs?
@Cipher @Triangle Please ask VTL to give VGL some commentators
>>587308185nah
>>587308185no
>>587308351>>587308440please I'll do anything I'll eat your shit I'll suck your cock
I will commentate our league
>>587308537How much do they charge for their services?
>>587307979okay*waves fingers*Suule, TransCivic, Yuyukow, you're needed in the VGL!You're welcome :)
>>587308351>>587308440>responding within a minute of each otheras if we didn't need more proof of who's whining and shitposting around these parts respectively
>>587308785yeah he DM'd me "please respond to this post its gonna be super funny"
>>587308767what's wrong with yuyukow
>>587308785
>>587308767Yuyukow is a good commentator though.
>>587308895>>587308961i'd honestly agree if he didn't have a plastic earrape mic and didnt stumble over every other sentence
>>587308713too much for you
>>587308767Beats the non VGLco commentators
>>587309287It's not even the mic (not entirely), he just has such aggressive mic gating that half of what he says just gets cut out altogether
>>587309483fuck you
>>587310308*kisses you*
>>587309336I am a fat old man, which means I am entitled to premium treatment and discounts on their services.
>>587298584aw sonofabitch
Divegrass is a big deal to me, ok. I've invested too many years of my life into this for it to not matter.
>>587311146you threw a fake soccer match so me and my three unemployed friends are going to lobby for you to be permabanned
Less than two weeks before deadlineDon't procrastinate
>>587311679Aw fuck, I'm not mentally prepared to go back into the grinder
>>587311679But Winter deadline is in January
Which one has the best melties, 4ccg or vgl?
>>587314090compare the thread after an /mlp/ star and after the /1999/ star
>>587314421Link them
>>587315261nah, you can do it yourself
>>587315347I'm lazy
>>587308767yuyukow is fine and transcivic can probably commentate /hbr/ and /1999/ or something, it's not that hard to grasp "the joke is yuri" teams
>>587310387*kisses you back*
>>587315512no melties for you then
Let's imagine a world where Sou actually punishes /3/ managers. What punishment would be fair in your opinion?
>>587315606>"the joke is yuri" teamsare they really just that? i would have thought they have a bit more personality
>>587315851what personality do gacha teams have that isn't "the joke is SEX"
>>587315851You're talking to someone who likely doesn't know anything about the teams either.
>>587315802Advancement was earned on the pitch so there would be no disqualification. I would probably punish them with watching their team in the caretaker chair for one cup or losing all timeouts for two games.
>>587315802null the match vs /y/, period. No rematches, that's the punishment. The intent was to promote /y/. Letting them get away with that is a signal to everyone that abusing the system is okay.>but Crimson said the results stayand Crimson is a faggot.
>>587315670Damn, now I'm hungry
>>587316041>>587315851>sex on the name>yuri___>more sex jokes>haha they are lesbians did you get it??>more sex
>>587315802Minimum of a one year ban, because the manager unilaterally decided that /u/'s fans don't deserve to watch their team play in winter, do the same to /3/ fans by disqualifying them from winter. Let the 17th place team go in their place.
>>587316523now reduce /1992/ to that
>>587315802Run a mini group stage with /3/ /u/ and /y/. Top 2 advances
>>587316207so you'd punish /y/ for what /3/ did, god tier logic
>It's been 25 hours and these delusional yuriniggers are still at it with the headcanon punishments
>>587315802nothing because yuritards should had won instead of depending on someone else to promote them
>>587316670>/3/ and /y/ win anyway
>>587316670Imagine if they lose again
>>5873158026 months of forced autopilot with their day 6 nightly
>>587316691And even trying to reverse what /3/ did
>>587315802The only punishment they could realistically get is removing their voluntary timeouts for the final weekend. Any other punishment would be too severe for a situation that does not warrant it.
>>587315802I disagree with the premise because I don't think they did anything wrong.
>>587316691This, everyone assumes /y/ is a meme and they can't win a game despite the cup giving upsets over and over. By the logic of these yuritards /y/ doesn't even deserve a chance to have a match if the opponent does something.
>>587316691Yes because getting a free game should not be allowed.The ass-spread maneuver looked like trying to play into /3/'s shit. It was a quiet nod that they're okay with the throw. Sure, they kinda didn't have a reason not to take that, but they were the ultimate beneficiary of the shitshow.Punishing dragonfagged teams was okay so this is okay too.
>>587316708can't imagine letting yuritards control my life this hard
>>587316796>>587316814Would be funny.
>>587316940Literally no one suggests that. /y/ might have won, but we'll never know because /3/ threw. /3/ deserve to be punished, /y/ does not
>>587316648I had to take a second to remember what team was that and what was their team icon. Other than the blatant >gay one the rest seem ok some are just implied HAHA the joke is yuri she fucks your wife happy cuck stuff.
>>587315802the result stays, but during garbage day, repeat the match with the exact same tactics, if gunt scores, then nothing happens, if gunt isn't able to score again, then it's a season ban
>>587316923Correct. Punishment here implies they threw to spite /u/, which they did not.
>>587317194Yeah and /3/ won two of their games so the punishment has to be manager related if there is one, and not something like removing them from winter or /y/ that is also not really guilty of collusion
>>587317194How do you punish /3/ for throwing (they threw to promote /y/ over /u/ or /pw/) without basically approving the throw?or is that what you're suggesting?
>>587317094>a team accepting the shitshow at 80 minutes and playing into the meme when it no longer matters either way?>oy vey, it's another DFoahListen to yourself man
>>587315802The funniest option is making them run the same nightly
>>587317397>Nooo /y/ should have asked them to stop the match and to promote /u/ at half timeYou are still trembling.
>>587316207That would be unfair to /y/ as they had nothing to do with it unless of course some new evidence comes out. Just do another /y/ and /u/ match with /u/ on auto. For /u/ it would just be another coinflip (like it should've been) while /y/ would have to prove that they could actually pull off a win.>>587316670You can't bring in /3/ again since they already have a known preference on who they want to let advance and differentiating between which changes were genuinely bad or what were attempts at another throw would be an even bigger shitshow.
Just ban them from managing in Winter.
>>587315606The problem VGL has is that people buy too much into the idea that you have to know something about of the team.
/4ccg/ would've been more anti-/3/ if the teams in question weren't /u/ or /pw/ but let's say /a/ or /int/you know that but you don't wanna say it out loudthe bad actors are pretending to be blind because a team they dislike got fucked and they're okay with it
Ban /u/ from managing in Winter instead for shitting up the thread. Oh wait...
/3/ should be removed from winter and /u/ should be put in their placei'm trans btw
>>587317308It doesn't matter if they wanted to spite /u/.If they don't get punished for blatant throwing it encourages everyone to do it now. There is now no reason teams should not collude to actively kill /3/ or another team if they aren't going to be punished for ii
>>587317786It's like one schizo who really is obsessed with trannies for some reason.
Teams have always done stupid shit when they are already through. I do not care.
>>587317380That is exactly what I'm suggesting, /y/ is an innocent party in this and they earned their promotion even if /3/ threw. That shouldn't be taken away from them, only /3/ deserves to be punished
>>587317102Ironic considering how yuritards are demanding /admin/ bends over to suit them
>>587318214so throwing is okay because you can't punish the beneficiary. you said that. fine.
>>587315802Management ban for one year. Easy one
>>587315802Ban the managers for 6 months and force the team to run the exact same tactics for the entire duration. Would it be fair? Nope, but they dont' seem to care so why should I?That being said, no team is removed from Winter, as rematches are a terrible idea and given POI was accepted the premise of "not punishing the fans for the manager's moves" stil holds.
>>587318298are they in the room with you right now?
Throwing requires two parties to collude; if /y/ played in earnest, then it can't be considered throwing.
/u/tards are only mad about this because Homu gets fucked when the drawfag does her
>>587318553If the room is this thread, yeah
>>587318368Yes? Because if you include the beneficiaries in the punishments, what's stopping from other teams intentionally throwing to guarantee that their absolutely clueless opposing team goes down with them? Beneficiaries should only be touched if there's actual collusion between the two teams and there was premeditation for the throw.
In fact everyone who disagrees with me is my /u/tard boogeyman
>>587316207Ok, but nulling the match doesn't mean the knockouts change
>>587318887that's something a /u/tard boogeyman would say!
/4ccg/ is another /u/ colony then
>>587317857Good point, I'll fix my statement then.Punishment here implies they threw, which they did not.
>>587317786
Just wanted to say that every post in this conversation is actually me samefagging
>>587317857please, 95% of managers would be too chicken shit to throw blatantly because it'd make them look bad to their internet friends
>>587318717Which is based, because she needs it badly
>>587319152Then why shouldn't I throw to spite /sp/ should I be in position to get rid of them? It's obviously not behavior that's punishable, and even if they wanted to, how could they justify more than a 6 month vacation?
Jesus, how long will the yuriniggers still sound raped? What's the odds for the over/under 48h?Not that I mind seeing dykes getting dicked over and over again, though.
>>587319481post hands
>>587319385No team should intentionally throw matches. /3/ did not throw against /y/.
>>587319385Because you're a coward
>>587318831>what's stopping from other teams intentionally throwing to guarantee that their absolutely clueless opposing team goes down with them?Not playing into that.A simple "hey, these tactics are weird, it's like they wanna lose, I don't think it would be a fair match" from the opposing manager would imply them not being okay with the throw.>inb4 but they have no reason not to accept free 3 points"All people wishing to be involved with the Cup ought to:Practice good sportsmanship."This was a blatant case of matchfixing. Corruption doesn't happen because of suggesting bribes, it's because of accepting them. And in most cases even the suggestion is punishable.
>>587319605/3/ threw against /y/, so I'm free to throw where I please. Until /3/ is punished, this much is true.
>>587319380/3/ did it and people are celebrating them, so why shouldn't /myteam/?
Consider the following: the nightly was approved. Therefore, using the tactics was legal.
/3/ paved the way for match fixing (as long as it hurts heels)nice cup 4ccbabs
https://youtu.be/rJDHySpCxc8?si=TwY_j40DRftX5CZx
Getter Rays are a rising!
>>587319834>don't be a heel>win your matchesSimple as
>>587319724Do it then.
>>587319667It shouldn't be the responsibility of the opposing manager to call out bad tactics, their responsibility is to their team first and foremost and that includes taking advantage of any bad tictacs the enemy puts out. Calling out obviously questionable tictacs should be the streamers responsibility which obviously didn't happen and was even encouraged.
>>587319834Thanks
>>587319815/admin/ and 'co going toe to toe in the "completely avoidable shitshows" in the KWABOTY race
>>587319815Do you think anyone even looks at these past a 3s glance and weren't basically auto-approved.
I'd like every team that has played in groups where my team has died on 4 points investigated for throwing please. It worked for /u/ why not us? No, I won't accept responsibility for dropping points twice.
>>587320361that's now their problem not mine.
*continues reviewing the tapes*
Shouldn't all discussion start and end with the fact that the /3/ nightly was accepted? /admin/ clearly greenlit it.
/3/ defense force makes me want more of a punishment
>>587320371Yeah, even better. Let's make a rule that if you don't win 2 matches in your group you don't deserve to promote. Eliminate grip weekends all together.
>>587320371if you can provide subtle clues like very questionable nightlies and live-managing then sure, but I know you can't.It's not about it being /u/. It's about what /3/ did to ensure /y/'s promotion.
>>587320529All of 4ccg is against you sister
>>587320529All of 4ccg is with you brother
Consider the time you're putting in to try to win an argument here.
>>587320529all of /u/cord is with you xister
>>587320249In this case, avoiding the 'shitshow' would be telling the yuricucks to kick rocks
I'm just waiting for the inevitable weedman post that will stir the /u/tards whenever it's benefical or harmful
when im in a disingenuous posting competition and my opponent is /4ccg/ posters
>>587320823Consider this*rapes u*
>>587320529Allah be with you, brother
>>587320964I mean it's not like we don't already know the outcome to this. >everything still stands>minimal punishment>Sou just keks on stream about the raped /u/fags and we move on
>>587320823>win>argumentTwo bold assumptions
>>587320545>if you don't win 2 matches in your group you don't deserve to promoteThis is true though. If you want to be sure to promote, play better. If you get lucky and get through on 4, then you got lucky and it happens, but you can't complain if the group comes up so that 4 isn't enough. Hell, there have been groups that have came up where 6 wasn't enough, and nobody says those teams "deserved" to promote and calls for the advancing teams to be sanctioned.
Why does Sou need so long to review footage? At this point if he can't decide, leave it up to a manager poll. At least then there'd be a definitive answer instead of silence
>>587321197fat bitch but for real
>>587321197trve
The people who spend 24/7 crying about /u/tards are more annoying than /u/tards themselves and I'm tired of pretending otherwise
all /3/ had to do was to make it less blatant. No one would've noticed or complained. /u/ is already used to eating shit. But even the average viewer could notice that something was off and yet /4ccg/ still plays dumb.
>>587321570so true xister
>>587321570>t. raped /u/tard
>>587307979Please 4CC give us some actual logos
>>587321570Replace /u/tard with lolcow and you have the typical 4ccg farmer
>>587321570You sound raped
>>587321570it's the yuriniggers that keep this conversation afloat, notice that whenever they shut up about it the conversation stops and goes elsewhere
>>587321570You lost the game
I wish I was /4ccg/ because somehow despite being so hapless lesbians rape it 24/7.
>>587321771literally the same people
>>587315802Management ban for the next two cups that /3/ participates in simple and easy
You are loved.
>>587321771>t. raped lolcow
>>587321601>But even the average viewer could notice that something was offThe average viewer wanted Gunt goal
>>587321975>>587322117
You are raped. :)
>>587322108that's a lie.
>>587322247heh
>>587322281Gunt yearns for love
>>587323103i don't consent
I need a picture of WIP-chan's pussy
>>587323161We must consent.
>>587323340fuck you i laughed
>>587323236has to reach the final first
is >fun slow for anyone else?
>>587323236ask the drawfag
>>587323583Sou's eating the bandwidth reviewing all the footage
nu>>587323853>>587323853>>587323853
After further review /3/ will not be punished, just don't do it again o algo
>>587316602>/u/fans dont deserve to watch their team's matches Hello, based department?
