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/sthg/ #9722 - Long-term Bestie Edition

==NEWS==
>Discord server launched 5 October 2026
discord.gg/SonicOfficial
>SONIC PICO PARK on 12 November 2026
https://picoparkgame.com/spp/
>Sonic the Hedgehog: Memories and Beyond on 12 November 2026
https://youtu.be/gg33XSAtdZM
>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversary
https://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary
>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 on 19 March 2027
https://x.com/SonicMovie
>Netflix animated series for preschoolers with attitude in production
https://variety.com/2026/film/news/crazy-taxi-movie-netflix-sega-sonic-stranger-than-heaven-1236861148/

==COMICS==
Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #4 - 11 November 2026
Sonic and the Blade of Courage #18 - November 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #92 - 9 December 2026

==OTHER==
>Links
https://rentry.org/sthglinks
>SAGE
https://sagexpo.org/
>SHC
https://shc.zone/
>#10000 Project
https://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru

Previous Zone: >>587206384
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Wish I may, wish I might
Be someone else tonight
Sometimes I wish I was never born at all
And I'll try to save the world
'Cause in the end I know
I'm the chosen one
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*headpats your OC*
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>>587240162
>besties force their way into the OP
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vM6I9Mexbqs
Night.
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Miles "Tails" Prower!
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Sonurge wonned
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>>587240269
Gonna be real with you, the only thing in IDW worth my time reading was Surge and Kit. I didn’t care much for anything else.
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>>587240269
Are you talking about fucking Mr Tinker or Mr Needlemouse
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>>587240281
Goodnight, & hbd again! :)
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>>587240281
Gudnight!
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>>587240313
This caused a full bestiemelty on twitter
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If anyone ever guesses my favorite IDW character, I'll let you know. The only thing I'll let slip is that the IDW writers think this character died not too long ago.
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Boys!
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>>587240618
There's no prize so nah.
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SO WHAT IF YOU CAN SEE THE DARKEST SIDE OF ME
NO ONE WILL EVER CHANGE THIS ANIMAL I HAVE BECOME
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>>587240618
So the anons who guessed it was one of Whisper's old friends were wrong?
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>>587240725
Mr tinker!
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>>587240827
They consider him a separate character?
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>>587240618
Yeah it being Joe NPC isn't exactly nailing anything down. It's not Ian Jr. it can't be Knick Hernandez, Crystal the Cat, Jade the Cat, Emerald the Iguana, Ruby Ringtail, or Sapphire Flutterby. It can't be E-106 “η” Eta or E-107 “θ” Theta. It can't be Haji.
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who the hell robs a sonic fan?
https://x.com/TitoTheOG/status/2119631833151209537
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>>587240921
if you are a pedantic asshole, then yes! (so a lot of anons yes)
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>>587240971
...Another Sonic fan envious of his lifesize Sonic dildo collection.
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I imagine sonic would make a pretty bad dildo actually. he's much too spiky
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>>587240971
Osha the Wott
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>>587240971
Sega, apparently.
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I'm terribly disappointed in you anon, you didn't draw in the whiteboard
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Its not Ron. Its not Gala the Hound. Its not Harriet, Charley Parkhearse, or Sequoia Loganberry. Its not Blate the Cat or Rachel
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>>587241247
fuck off
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>>587241247
I did! :D
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>>587241260
So still no correct guess?
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>>587240934
>Ian Jr.
Who the fuck is "Ian Jr."?
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>>587241379
Good job anon
*Kisses you*
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>>587241529
Ian Mutchler's Forces Avatar
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What are some characters you'd like to see interact and how?
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Its not the Adrien and Marinette expies. Nor the Spirou and Fantasio ones. Its not Scorch the Cat. Its not Hilda the Hyena. Its not cyber singer mika
>>587241529
Hes orange with the gamer hat
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>>587241694
More Silver and Knuckles being cute dummies
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It cant be Sicily the Hedgehog, Venice the Hedgehog, Ampere the Jerboa, Gigi the Buffalo, Pickle Barrel, Stiletto the Fox, Lightningstar the Tabby, Piccola the Cat, or Ring the Raccoon
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I give up. Whatever answer it would be is likely stupid
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Plap plap plap Surge
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Hello, it’s me, Blackwood. Ask me anything.
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No
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>>587241694
I wish Mimic teamed up with Surge and Kit at least once. Considering he’s an octopus he would synchronize with Kit’s water powers. He also doesn’t have any baggage with them so interactions could’ve been fun and funny.
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>>587242261
How is Silver's tight bumhole?
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>>587242261
how loud do silver's moans get as you pound him and cum in his ass?
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>>587242346
>considering he's an octopus he would [headcanon]
??
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The writer of Sonic Adventure 2 liked this specific piece of fanart.
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>>587242471
>>587242346
>considering he's an octopus
>he would do a hentai and be like
>OOOOH FEEL MY TENTACLES
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>>587242352
>>587242359
Fellas, fellas. You’re mistaken. I don’t swing that way.

Now Princess Blaze on the other hand…
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>>587242584
Edgy
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>>587242471
Are you too autistic to imagine the sea creature character swimming in water well?
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>>587242261
Did you murder your parents?
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>>587242709
I'm bored of you, then.
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>>587241260
Who the fuck is "Ron"?
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>>587242295
Why do you like a random background character that does nothing and no one remembers so much that you can call it your favorite? It sounds like there's nothing remarkable about him/her.
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>>587242759
I think you're not autistic enough. Not sure if you realized it, but birds in this series don't traditionally "fly" with "wings" and that's on purpose. They use Extreme Gear as a stand-in for that idea. One day we may get an aquatic-based character who uses a submarine or something. But the SegaSonic vision of characters isn't for them to random have every ability their real-life counterpart does. Mimic can shapeshift and he looks like a swimming octupus when he flies. Until I see him swim, I'm not going to assume he's some master swimmer any better than Tails/Knuckles/Rouge already are
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>>587242840
He is the chili dog vendor Tangle gets some chili dogs from
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Douge
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>>587242261
Why do you look so much like sephiroth?
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>>587242346
>>587242759
>>587242947 (me)
I should also mention Kit doesn't have "water powers". He has hydrocoils that he controls. That's it, he doesn't control the ocean and he wouldn't be able to control it just by putting his coils in there. That's not how his 'kit' works
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>>587243000
Cute and canon!
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Who is your favorite Sonic? Tails? Knuckles? Amy? Shadow? Who is your favorite Sonic?
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>>587243073
but does Kit WAKE UP DP?
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>>587243073
You care waaaay to much about this nigga
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>>587242762
Me? Of course not! What a preposterous statement.

>>587242780
Not my loss.

>>587243067
May not a man take fashion inspiration from another?
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>>587243586
ah. allow me to take an uneducated guess. you didnt murder your parents, the poison did. you just killed them.
Fair enough on the sephiroth part tho. I can't deny you your fashion sense.
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>>587242903
Well, for one, this character did not do "nothing". And yes, I like the design but that wasn't the selling point for me. I asked myself who my favorite IDW character was and that was the character who popped up.

Surely your pick for favorite character wasn't complicated right?
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Are you prepared Evan Stanley's ugly human women to ruin the franchise?
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Why do you give a shit about the idw crap and not the better designed better written more compelling more cute canon game characters that aren't created and written by faggot degenerates?
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>>587243845
Fuck that is bad
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>>587240162
Ian had no idea how much he'd irreversibly fuck over /opg/
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>>587243845
She has already brought her ugly humans to official art.
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Why are they so cute together? It's more or less canon now that they would have gotten married and made love. It's beautiful.
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>>587243808
I just find it awkward that literally no one remembers
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I say fuck authority
The silent majority
Feel the rage of a new generation
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>>587243307
What?
>>587243380
I just care about truth. People should know
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>>587243808
Are you gonna say some dumb shit like Gyoro and then claim that hes idw because idw publishes the localization?
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>>587243845
why do they look fat?
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>>587244303
Because Evan is a genuine sub 2 and also fat
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>>587244263
Who the fuck is "Gyoro"?

>>587244185
Neither did the IDW writers who thought this character died.
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>>587243778
First off, why are you so adamant that I have done something to my mother and father?

Secondly, thank you. I take care in my appearance, so it’s marvelous others can appreciate the work.
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>>587240162
Amy should wear less!
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Sparky and Evan are really similar.
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>>587244518
alright, for the moment let's belive you and way that your hands are clean.

Whats with the gigantic feathered cowl? i mean i know you know your fashion, but it seems rather... large?
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>>587243371
Amy should wear less here, too!
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>>587244791
How
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Which Sonic girl needs her pussy licked...?
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>>587245564
all of them?!???
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>>587245564
surge, by me, specifically.
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>>587241247
Blaze and Amy should wear less!

I rerolled because Amy's chin kept getting fucked up, but I like all the Blazes so...

https://files.catbox.moe/r0dhwm.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/3iq7ng.jpg
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>>587245790
Kys AIfag
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>>587245790
Neat
Do you spend anything to do this or can you just spam it out
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>>587245741
sonic...
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>>587245443
Both have original projects heavily influenced by sonic that have spent several years in conceptual stage with seemingly no chance of ever getting past that point.

Both have an immediate fall off in character design quality the moment they move away from Sonic.

Both insist they fully understand sonic and get very frustrated if people challenge any of their conceptions.
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>>587245928
Everyone thinks they fully understand Sonic. How many people do you meet that roll over and go "oh guess i had that wrong"
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I love when Sonic is an insatiable slut
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>>587245967
I don't fully understand Sonic...Nor do I want to. He's a blue hedgehog that runs really fast and fights a giant talking. I'm certain there's more than that but I don't care.
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Realizing my interest in Sonic media fades when there are no humans in it, or when there are too many blobians. It feels much more compelling when people like Sonic are rare. It makes each individual blobian stand out, and it feels almost magical in some sort of way, as if they could be real in our world, kind of like a spirit or a fairy. It's also really cute since they're like half the height of humans and it makes you realize you could just pull one of them into your lap or lift them if they allowed it.
By contrast, the media that's populated only by the furries (or predominantly by the furries) seems kind of... I don't know how to describe it. There's no contrast there. People like Sonic or Shadow aren't treated like they're special or rare anymore, just some furry guys who happen to have crazy powers. Not really any different than a generic stylized furry franchise. It loses a lot of the appeal to me in a way that's difficult to articulate.

I thought it was just "I only like the JP media", but it's more that JP media is usually the only media that does the "a few blobians in a predominantly human world" thing. I thought my interest in the movies was just an exception, but it’s actually because it's scratching that specific itch. I hope they continue to include humans. IDW really bores me...
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>>587246124
"when everybody's super no one will be"
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>>587243000
Cute N Canon!
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>>587246124
I completely agree. It makes it easier for the Sonic characters to stand out. Current sonic media feels bizarre because either it is way too distracting because everyone is designed like a main Sonic character or it is distracting because they are deliberately designed to look like Sonic but intentionally be ugly to be uninteresting.

But given that one of the current artists cannot draw humans, this is a monkey paw waiting to happen.
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>>587217064
Modern Knuckles knows ancient texts and can translate ruins.
Classic Knuckles famously can barely understand the legend of the mural of his own people.
Hop off my GOAT, fuckwit

>>587218674
But enough about Triple Trouble
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>>587245967
I do this a lot. There are some anons that I think understand Sonic really well and I will concede to them.
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>>587246124
Well I agree and disagree
Yes, the human npcs were better because presentation wise it made the anthros stand out
That said, even within that world, Sonic himself stands out way more than the Chaotix or Rouge. This is true even in a world of anthros, it goes Sonic > Chaotix and Rouge > Ian Jr, its just inferior presentation
Since ive accepted that anthro npcs are just human stand-ins i stopped caring. Sonic teaches Soliel to spin, he teaches Elise to run.
The only thing "no humans" really loses are select characters like President GUN Commander and the usage of GUN itself which is a pretty big piece that feels missing
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>>587246314
>I do this a lot. There are some anons that I think understand Sonic really well and I will concede to them.
Like who
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>>587242584
Fiona should wear less!
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>>587246343
I like Sonics world being a place I can imagine myself being in rather than an alien planet.
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>>587246363
How am I supposed to identify anons here? Maybe the smug cream poster?
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>>587246124
Godhood doesnt mean much without a mortal to compare it to.
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Your honest thoughts on this character?
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>>587246124
>. I hope they continue to include humans. IDW really bores me...
Anon you need a new team of artists...
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>>587245097
No comment…

OP here. I think it’s actually supposed to be an ermine fur coat. Pretty fucked up implications.
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>>587246407
Yeah they made a game for that
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>>587246518
No because the species selection does not include human.
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>>587246124
Maria should wear less!
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Anyway i dont care for the whole "i like that i could lift shadow cuz hes my half my height" its just uwushit and isnt really a good factor for anything
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>>587246552
Youre supposed to imagine yourself as a wolf without powers
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>>587246507
Anon who keeps interacting with here. you sure? ir really just looks like feathers to me. hell i wouldnt be suprised if blackwood had a bird amongst his maids that exists specifically to supply the feathers for him
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>>587246124
Tell that to furfag gooners like ABT.
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>>587246637
If Gadget does not have powers that means that characters like Maria can run at high speeds and smash robots with a single kick
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>>587244407
Can you just tell us who it is?
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>>587246124
>>587243845
>>587244113
You should be part of the anti Evan alliance then
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>>587244146
Maria should wear less here, too!
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>>587246683
yes, we all can anon. you just need to have faith. (and not be super out of shape like the average american)
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>>587246689
Fine, if only to prove I wasn't shitposting. If he ends up getting ruined after this, I'm blaming you.
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>>587246791
oh the engineer orangutan
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Why didn't any humans join the Resistance?
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>>587246843
Same reason you don't see mobians in GUN.
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>>587246683
Gadget can smash badniks by sliding into them. Pretty sure you can jump into them too
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>>587246791
Wow lol
Well I doubt this post will get the wrong people's attention
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>>587246880
Rouge? I think
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>>587246841
Yes who someone at IDW though died at the end of the Clean Sweepstakes arc.
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>>587246843
so that anon's can insert themself into the story with that.
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>>587246773
Sally should wear less! She isn't meant to wear clothes!
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>>587246928
>someone at IDW
Who? Or do we have to guess?
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>>587246659
You could be right, I just posted what came to my mind first
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>>587246791
Is this a joke? Grease Monkey isn't even official named. He's on the same tier as Ashe's father. But whatever, who even said he was dead? He isn't
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>>587060596
Here's the full whiteboard. Thank you to everyone who showed up!
Full-res image is in the booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=19708
PSD archive (includes uncensored boards):
https://mega.nz/folder/DKBSlDYb#GdR4FN7QFEOFtS_30ZT4_A
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>>587246913
PLEASE don't start that again. But no, it's because they don't want any meaningful overlap between the two species. They don't want the optics of an integrated world.
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>>587246972
I'm not saying so don't bother.
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What if human was among the races for the Forces Avatar
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>>587247051
he'd be sleeping with lanolin
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>>587246843
If they ever touched on Forces stories again they might say humans were in the Resistance and we just didn't see them
>>587246880
>>587247024
Yeah, ignoring that m*bians slur drop I don't think there's any deep reason about no anthros in GUN. It's presented as an analog to real world human military. Even today Sega isn't that interested in a combined world, that's not some worldbuilding priority
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>>587247051
The only problem with a human is that they'd be too tall. Blobians are like midgets compared to the average human. That would complicate the gameplay.
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>>587247051
I would defend it harder.
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>>587247213
Make them abnormally small toddlers.
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>>587247213
Just have them all be children.
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White Chaos Emerald
White Sol Emerald
Orange Time Stone
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>>587247014
Awesome as always
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What if the forces character creator only let you make humans but it was way more robust?
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>>587247304
What about the Black Chaos emerald?
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>>587247242
>>587247271
Do you know how fucked it would look having the Resistance give a human child a Wispon and tell them to go to war against Eggman?
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>>587247418
Charmy is 6.
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>>587247213
Vector is 5'11, Big 6'7, and Vanilla's likely around 5'0. We've seen adult blobians reach normal human heights, but the majority are kept around Sonic's height because it's easier to have their stature related to most of the cast. They could easily introduce more taller blobians.
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>>587247418
Please watch the cutscene when the Avatar first shows up. Charmy is literally there, and they compare the Avatar to him. You're already playing as a kid.
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>>587247448
I don't think Vector and Vanilla even reach the height of a human adult.
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Sonic is for 6 year olds
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>>587246124
I agree with this!

>That said, even within that world, Sonic himself stands out way more than the Chaotix or Rouge. This is true even in a world of anthros, it goes Sonic > Chaotix and Rouge > Ian Jr, its just inferior presentation

I dont see it.
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>>587247438
>>587247457
A human child is different from a cartoon bee.
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>>587247602
A cartoon human child.
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>>587247378
Erroneously replaces cyan. All Chaos Emeralds turn black when drained
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>>587247312
What if they made Infinite a human too instead of a blobian jackal to rival this avatar?
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>>587246254
Yeah, what you said is a big issue for me. It's kind of jarring how the blobians either look intentionally boring or like they're designed to be a main character. Humans avoid that issue for the most part.
>But given that one of the current artists cannot draw humans, this is a monkey paw waiting to happen.
I think that this is partially just a western issue. I've noticed that almost all JP artists have some basic grasp on how human faces and anatomy work. It also makes their Sonic art look different and generally more elegant, since they're applying the knowledge they learned from drawing anime to Sonic instead of applying the knowledge they learned from drawing Sonic to anime.

I've been drawing Sonics for around 10 years now and only kind of recently tried studying how JP artists draw humans. It was really revealing to me in a way no Sonic artist has ever mentioned in any tutorial, especially for the head. When JP artists familiar with humans draw Sonics, there's a basically invisible application of the neck, chin, and cheek bones during construction. But when it's the other way around, when the artist has only learned how to draw the cartoon ball head, the artist hasn't learned how the neck, chin, or cheek bone construction works at all. They end up flying blind when drawing a human. That's why Evan's humans look like they do.
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>>587247593
What is there not to see?
Sonic/Zavok > Chaotix/Rouge > Human/Ian Jr > Flicky/Wisp/Chao
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>>587246890
I'm just waiting at this point.
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>>587247772
Really insightful anon. Thank you.
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>>587247772
ah, so me talking about blobians having a neck fetish wasnt completely pulled out of my ass!
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>>587247784
>Sonic/Zavok > Chaotix/Rouge
I dont see the logic with this
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Forces and IDW completely soured the idea of blobian populace to me.
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>>587247772
Reminds me of this
https://youtu.be/eGkCKroPKcc
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Discuss
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>>587248254
Why not? Even before anthro npcs became mainstream, characters like Sonic were still considered a cut above characters like Amy.
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>>587248569
What do you want by "cut above"?
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>>587248475
>Espeon and Sephi
cute, saving this for later
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>>587248698
Within the world of the 2000s games, characters Amy and Rouge despite being anthros are not treated differently. They're still considered on the same relative level as humans. Nobody in either realm of the world as it is presented, be it human or anthro, can stand up to Sonic or Eggman, the most powerful of their respective species-styles
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>>587248805
Sure, but that isn't tied into their species in universe.
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Maekawa might commit a crime if the Lore Team makes Shadow get over Maria and gets low-key shipped with Amy.
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>>587248896
Im just saying that Sonic is still a fairy whether hes around humans or other anthros
Meanwhile, in neither world is Amy a fairy, but one world (2000s human world) just gives better presentation to her billing as a main character than the other (Forces IDW anthro world) does
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>>587248981
Maekawa is the one who started it by making Amy be the Maria catalyst in SA2. SA2 is literally where Shadamy started and what people consider its strongest evidence
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>>587249038
Hmmm, I mean Amy is still a 12 year old city gal who lives by herself with her oen appartment.
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>>587249170
You bringing up that shes 12 as an argument is why they removed ages
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>>587249081
Maekawa replied to a Shadamyfag who was asking if Maria and Amy were a similar soul. Maekawa replied that if Amy had Maria's soul, Shadow would instantly sense it. That's how strong Shadow and Maria's bond is. If Maria were reincarnated in a different body, Shadow would immediately be drawn back to her like a plant is drawn to sunlight.

Shadow is not drawn to Amy.
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>another night talking about Shadow and Maria
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>>587249387
Better than talking about IDW and Archie
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>>587249345
>Shadow is not drawn to Amy
Don't worry. The Lore Team will make sure he is. And when SA2 is remade, they'll add a scene where Shadow senses Maria's soul within her.
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>>587249345
All that means is you need one story/game to suddenly establish that reincarnation in Sonic not only exists but happened to Maria and Amy
Then in that story they'd say Amy chasing Sonic all this time was her trying to get to the closest thing she had to a Shadow until now with her soul's memories she and Shadow can find each other again
You just gave Shadamyfags everything they need
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>>587247014
Needs more yaoi
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>>587249289
But we are talking about during the 2000s. I feel like the animal characters, while treated like people, are still different.
The problem is we keep trying to force hard line categorical distinctions with the assumption of implicit rules.
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>>587249458
>Shadria is horrible because Maria is Shadow's literal sister but also my ship is valid because she's Maria's reincarnation, Shadow will fuck Amy because Amy is Maria but don't ship Shadow and Maria
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>>587249609
This is always funny lol
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>>587249387
>Go to Sonic general
>People talk about Sonic
>Get mad
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>>587249665
But they aren't talking about Sonic, they're talking about Shadow. Which is worse.
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>Shadow is not drawn to Amy
lol
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>>587249609
>NuAmy is better than 2000Amy, but also Amy never changed, she just stopped being a schizo stalker, but also look she still calls him her darling and glomps her like the 2000s so why are tou complaining?

Same phenomenon
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>>587249787
Amy was the closest one to Shadow when he walked up to the group
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>>587249787
Good, Rouge deserves someone better like Knuckles
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>>587249568
In 1998, Amy being 12 was set dressing for her character. It was not something that "made it odd" that she lived in an apartment amongst humans.
>I feel like the animal characters, while treated like people, are still different.
Which is, no. No they aren't really different. They're different in that they are main marketed characters and you play as them, but their place in the world is that they aren't different. When these games bring up "humanity", whether to give them a chance or destroy them, that includes the Sonic cast. It's just that "bring hope to Earthlings" doesn't sound as good so they can't be lumped in
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>>587249890
Omega, you mean.
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>>587249872
So was Knuckles. but I guess Shadow ain't gae :^)
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What if I grope Shadow's fluffy chest without permission? Is it rape?
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>>587249898
>In 1998, Amy being 12 was set dressing for her character. It was not something that "made it odd" that she lived in an apartment amongst humans
I agree. And that is interesting because we see human children who do look for their parents and talk about whether or not their parents trust them to be out late at night etc. But for Amy, no one asks questions or treats it as weird or abnormal or draws any attention to it.
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IDW didn't start "to kill or not to kill Eggman", Shadow the Hedgehog (2005) did.
>"Saraba da, doctor."
The fact that he could do this in multiple timelines begins to beg the question of why our current Shadow does not kill Eggman during any time he threatens Earth
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>>587250146
We see that for Cream too. And now no one is questioning Yuta. Cartoon kids go on adventures arbitrarily.
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>>587250146
>But for Amy, no one asks questions or treats it as weird or abnormal or draws any attention to it.
Because then dialogue/writing would have to explain about Amy's parents or if she has any, which is obviously not something they are interested in doing. Amy is a character both a little boy and a grown man can feel comfortable hitting on/asking out, enough for her to think Vector, an adult, is doing the same in Heroes.
When they want you to think about a characters' parents, they will bring it up as they do for Cream. When they don't, they won't, as they don't do for Charmy. That isn't really an in-universe indication of "a furry 12 being different than a human 12"
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>>587250236
This isn't about them going on adventures. Also Vanilla actually is averse to Cream doing so.
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>>587250321
>Also Vanilla actually is averse to Cream doing so.
I know. That's why I said what I said. Cream is treated like the human kids because she's the "daughter" character. Tails and Charmy are around the same age as Cream but are treated the same way as Amy, who also used to be around that age before being retconned to be older. What cartoon children are or aren't allowed to do is arbitrarily decided to fit a narrative.
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>>587250312
>Because then dialogue/writing would have to explain about Amy's parents or if she has any, which is obviously not something they are interested in doing. Amy is a character both a little boy and a grown man can feel comfortable hitting on/asking out, enough for her to think Vector, an adult, is doing the same in Heroes.
Yes, I agree.
>When they want you to think about a characters' parents, they will bring it up as they do for Cream. When they don't, they won't, as they don't do for Charmy. That isn't really an in-universe indication of "a furry 12 being different than a human 12"
Im not saying that there is some in universe thought out middle earth tier distinction. What I am saying is there is still a meta distinction. Animal characters like Amy are not judged the same way as humans even if it isn't acknowledged in a complex in-universe lore justified way. The distinction exists even if it isn't diagetic.
Tails for example is still treated as a child, but can have a mickey mouse club house home and a lab and a workshop.
Its not because of some kind if in universe different cultureal standard or anything autistic like that, but there is still this meta notion that the rules of regular people dont apply the same for the animal characters. Even the ones rhat are more normie or civilian tier.
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>>587250409
>Tails and Charmy are around the same age as Cream but are treated the same way as Amy
I wouldn't go that far. Amy is still treated closer to Sonic, Knuckles or Rouge.
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What do you call it when the story looks better just because i cant read what theyre saying
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>>587250579
You wouldn't go "that far" because you're delusional and want to convince yourself of your hypocritical Amy age headcanon. No, Amy living on her own doesn't mean she's not 12. It means she's a cartoon character in a cartoon world.
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>>587250513
The meta distinction was that you played as the marketable colorful animal characters
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>>587247014
>2 bigs
Get this ugly cat out of my whiteboard
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>>587250696
Idk what youre schizoing about. I'm just making naked observations. I supposed for Amy, the fact qe have her classic and modern versions as point of contrast does a lot to emphasize the distinction?
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>>587250828
Your observation isn't based on anything factual.

>the fact qe have her classic and modern versions as point of contrast
We don't. Classic Sonic was created in 2011. What happened in 1998 is simply retconning her age to have always been 12. They were not saying "in CD she was different because she was significantly younger", they were saying "Amy was always 12 in CD". This was reflected in 2010s Classic Sonic style guides, which said Classic Amy was 12. Now that they rereretconned Classic Sonic to be "the past", they might intend every character to be significantly younger, but that wasn't the case until recently.
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>>587249081
I think that scene was actually supposed to be a sonamy hint, because they purposefulyl draw parallels to the events sonic/amy shadow/maria go through(eggman even points a gun to amy's head in front of sonic and he gets ejected from a capsule)
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>>587240162
every mega link I checked was dead
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>>587249890
>someone better
>knuckles
Momthrower, physical abuse is NOT affection.
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>>587251193
Yeah it's been like that for a long time lol
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>>587251223
Kino
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I wish writers and executives completely ignored any arguments about misogyny/misandry/left/right and did what they wanted but we cant have that
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>>587247014
brutal titmogging
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>>587250945
>Classic Sonic was created in 2011
Youre clearly gassed up on your weird agendas, but I daid Classic Amy vs Modern Amy.
Unlike Classic Sonic, you can't claim there wasnt a distinct and stark shift with the character from Classic to Modern.
Or preAdventure to post adventure if it satisfies your autism.

>What happened in 1998 is simply retconning her age
None of this is relevant though. If anything it supports my point. They actively made a change to bump her up an age rating. She went from a little girl to a city gal.
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>>587251161
And in both scenes a Robotnik says goodbye to a hedgehog
I wonder why they didnt have Eggman say Adios
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>>587251808
Ok. Ian and Evan now ignore all arguments and write their left wing Sonic comic. Now what
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>>587252353
I referred to Classic Sonic as a timeline/universe/series, not as a character.

>Unlike Classic Sonic, you can't claim there wasnt a distinct and stark shift with the character from Classic to Modern.
That's not what happened. They redesigned Amy for Sonic Adventure, and proceeded as if Amy was always like that. As far as Sonic Team was concerned, Amy's design in CD was fitting of a 12 year old character in that art style. Previously, they considered it fitting of an 8 year old character, but changed their minds. When they made Classic Amy into a separate character in the 2010s, they kept her age as 12.

>She went from a little girl to a city gal.
According to 2010s Classic Sonic material, she was always 12. Same way Sonic was always 15, despite early material saying he was 16. 16 years old Sonic wasn't Classic Sonic, he was Sonic before his age was retconned to be 15.
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>>587252518
>That's not what happened. They redesigned Amy for Sonic Adventure, and proceeded as if Amy was always like that.
Yes. None of that is relevant because we are speaking about the meta perception of the character in relation to the verse.
The fact the change happened shows the devs themselves saw it as different. Otherwise they wouldnt have made the change.
Stupid
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>>587252432
I'd get the Shadow logo on my ass
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>>587252432
Ew a femboy. What are you doing here?
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>>587252518
I think his japanese age was 15-16 in the japanese jam manual, not straight up 16
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>>587252689
Lanolin...
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>>587253072
>femboy
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>"I'd get the Shadow logo on my womb!"
Maria...
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Any sonic drawfags wanna draw vanilla giving a clothed titfuck with a cumshot through her blue tie?
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>>587252432
Krack if she was hot and based
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>>587253879
No
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>>587252601
You're assuming that the change in age and the change in eyes+hair style+clothes are related. Sonic Team disagrees with your assumption because they later said Classic Amy is 12. They just retconned the age.
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>>587254454
>You're assuming that the change in age and the change in eyes+hair style+clothes are related.
Other wayvaround. You're assuming yhey aren't. And only doing so tactically. There is literally no logistical or rational reason to assume that they arent related, or that if they are that the age change happened before the design change.
It makes no sense to unless you have an agenda to push, and your argument is reliant on you enaging in tons of double think to do so.
By your own argument and statement, Classic Amy did not exist until 2011. Amy was simply changed/retconned going into Adventure.
So Classic Amy being 12 cannot be used as a reflection of how she was seen internally because that entire conception of the character DID NOT EXIST.

NuClassic Amy is 12 because Modern Amy is 12, and she retains the age for consistency. But this was not the case when she was updated from PreAdvebtuee to Post Adventure.

You are literally comiiting the logical error you are accusing me of doing, dummy.
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It's so absurd that Soleil got 0 (zero) coverage and fanart, but with Blackwood entire AUs and porn comics are being made
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>>587254843
Blackwood just had a lot more to work with
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>>587254843
Because the shitty gender discussion ruined him instead of advertising this guy as a wild and silly shota
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>>587254843
Blackwood's premise and design is interesting to the crowd that draws him even if he's wasted
now i kinda want to draw mephaze
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>>587254932
>>587254960
>>587255083
Just admit its because of shipping.
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>>587255248
yeah but people wouldn't ship him if his design or concept didn't fit into shipfag tastes
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>>587254098
post art.
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>>587254960
>him
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>>587255248
well, yeah, he wasn't introduced in a vacuum
but his mind-control, his operatic demeanor, and his design are all points of interest in their own right
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*binds & gags your OC shibari-style*
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>>587254960
True
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>>587255415
for what purpose...?
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you can have my OC
i'm disowning him
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>>587255509
*smacks lips*
For uhhh... you know, that uh... thing from like last week uh... the medical... f-fitness eval...uation? Yeah...
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>>587255784
the FitnessGram pacer test?! you monster!
...wait, how will they take it tied up like that?

>>587255564
that wasn't part of the custody agreement
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..And PRESTO!! Whaddaya think??
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What if Fowler pulled it?
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>>587256187
You both need to be naked!
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>>587256390
I think Spainfag Honeyanon? is crazy to see this as anything other than a "Shadow likes latinas" gag. Is Europe just not into soaps like the rest of the world?
And if there is a Shadamy hint, it'll be a brief love triangle with amnesiac Shadow.
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>>587255564
>him
Eeeeewwww no thanks
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>>587256390
>>587256783
I think there are too many coincidences for the analysis to just be "thinking too deep about a gag"
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>>587256783
I think Iizuka is too protective of shadow for there to be an unambigous shadamy tease
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>>587256187
I think id prefer canon Honey over archie
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>>587256390
FOWLER'S SHADAMY MOVIE SERIES
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>muh Iizuka
he fucking kneels to SoJ over and over for their retarded decisions. he can't do shit.
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>>587257067
He will retire soon and someone worse will fill his shoes.
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>>587257067
What is the alternative? Naka, the man with a spine 10x stronger than his, eventually just left when there was nothing left he could do/fight.
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>>587253879
Hot, someone do this
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why doesnt idw just try to be cool
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>>587257187
by doing what?
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>>587256989
Do we even have some kind of trace that fowler is a shadamyfag or any kind of shipfag or is this just shadamyfag/anti-sonamyfag spam
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>>587257216
Silver turns Super Silver 2 and Blaze sucks his dick like the shipping accessory she is, kek
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>>587257292
Sonic's not that kind of franchise
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>>587257264
>pic anon posted
>Movienic is completely different than Game Sonic and is too childish for Amy
>westoids hate stalker Amy and wants her to be a girlboss
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>>587257187
The people who work on it the most did not get into Sonic because they thought it was cool
Ian got into Sonic from SatAM and Archie and clearly liked its political structure of how the heroes face the villain
Evan got into Sonic through self-insertion and it bleeds into every OC she creates
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>>587257421
None of those point to fowler wanting shadamy. at most it points that amy or sonamy will be more palatable for the current climate.
it still sucks but this sounds more like anti-sonamyfag wishful thinking.
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>>587257562
>or sonamy
Sonamy won't exist anymore. Now Amy can date Shadow, Knuckles, Espio and Human Man.
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>>587257693
As recent as memories beyond they are shipbaiting it. it's just more palatable because ''we want amy to be more than her crush''
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>>587257783
As recent as [an animation that hasn't come out yet] they are [having Sonic catch Amy for one second]
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>>587257812
He is princess carrying amy while she's holding onto him and blushing, it's lame but you guys make stories about shadamy with literal nothing but shirt color schizo'ing.
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>the Sonamybestie gatekeeper blowing his fucking brains out when Fowler rules over the Sonic franchise now
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There is literally nothing indicating shadamy, sonadow has more evidence than it.
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You are getting Shadamy, Knuxamy, Tailsamy. Surgamy, Eggamy, Zavamy and other degenerate shit, Sonamybestie.
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>>587257451
What did SEGA see in these people?
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Starting to think most of the spammers aren't even shadamyfags but probably have another ship with sonic they want besdies sonamy.
most likely its the resident sonurgefag samefagging.
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>>587258462
A means to an end.
>what end
wouldn't you like to know
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>>587258964
if it lives rent free in your head you are as mentally ill as your booegymen
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>>587258462
Ian and archie at the time was seen as better than either meta era jokes or 06's ''sonic with a human woman'' thing. i think people regret it now but social media whining dictates what sonic team does.
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It's not a good thing either but i assume movie-isms will replace ianisms in 2030s, just like how Meta era replaced JPnic in late 00s 2010s(unleashed is borderline/inbetween), and how ianissms replaced pontaff/meta in 2020s, gotta use up everything possible before returning to JPnic
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>>587258462
Well, when in the process are you talking about? Let's consider—SEGA has a process/test before artists are approved, but no such thing exists for the writers, that's up to the publisher and Sega will just approve/notate the script
Archie hired Ian from his soliciting as we all know.
I don't know how Evan got hired by Archie, so someone can help fill in the blank here.
Ian started winning so hard here he was hired to write Sonic Forces prequel before IDW actually launched, but there was probably an overlap in that timeline.
When IDW happened, it took Archie's scraps, primarily its lauded writer, visionary, and "savior" of the previous Sonic comic, Ian. Evan was also brought on to draw.
Then, Sega finally sees in 2018-19 how well-received Ian has been for quite some time, as well as his ability to easily work with them, and decides to get him to start writing their games.
David Mariotte sees this and decides to "give Evan a chance" and writing the comic becomes hers.
Evan, now drawing and writing this long for Sonic, applies to work with SoA on the lore team and their various related needs, and is hired because why wouldn't she be? She moves to California. Ian would've probably definitely also been hired had he moved to California.
That is where we are today. SoA likes them and SoJ doesn't dislike them. So they can keep their jobs.
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>>587258964
You mean Shadamyfags
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>>587258964
Riveting information but I dont know Duo to have a Shadamy agenda
>>587259397
What is a movie-ism in this case?
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>>587258964
>Sonurge
Yeah, and the based Sonaze and Sonally fags laugh their asses off at the Sonamybestie lmao
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>>587259494
He could be samefagging.
>>587259431
actual shadamyfags are usually women who like shoujoe-y tropes or self inserters, this general is %90 male with most males only caring about shadamy as a way to remove sonamy for their preferred ship with sonic (usually sonally/sonaze but anything else goes too)
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>>587259947
Proving my point, no one outside of women care about shadamy besides using it as a proxy for their other non-sonamy ship with sonic.
Blaze is canoncically a bestie btw
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>>587259494
Scenes, writing style and tone, setting, characterization imported from movies.
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>Sonamybestie seething and attacking Blaze
keep fighting everyone, anon
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>>587260039
>Blaze is canoncically a bestie btw
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I hope Movie 4 is fucking bad and they retire Amy from the games!
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>>587260176
I like blaze, her being a girlfailure and ''one of the guys'' is funny.
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>>587259494
Shadamy is hotter than shadouge and sonamy. dude btw
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>>587260269
>her being a girlfailure and ''one of the guys'
she's literally me
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>>587260181
Sonic sees her as somewhat like tails, a trusty good friend but no tension like it is with actual women, Silver doesn't know what romance or sexual matters is, and will never know. good for her since these matters make you dumb and get in the way of duties.
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>>587260283
Do you ship sonic with someone else?
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IDW fans fighting for their lives that Sonic should be doubtful and vulnerable
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>>587260624
>Silver doesn't know what romance or sexual matters is
This is a crazy headcanon. It's just never come up. He's never been asked. Rouge doesn't even flirt with him. For all we know the next Tailstube could be Valentine's Day focused
>"So, Silver, what do you think of love and romance?"
>"I have a girlfriend in my time. She's a tenrec. Her name is Gold and she's psychic, like me."
>"Wow, Gold and Silver? How compatible!"
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>>587260746
IDW fans hating and defending Redeemnic, because it gives Surge a purpose to hate Sonic lmao
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>>587260312
I’ll make you a success, baby.
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>>587260724
I don't give a crap about shipping in any fandom, but I made shadamy the only exception. it's some old autism from 20 years ago
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¡Buenos Días! Vamos a comer,
>>587256783
>Spainfag (Honeyanon?)
No onions de España, pero algunos de mis mejores clientes son de ahí. Me gustaría viajar algún día a la tierra de mis antepasados. He oído que te hace sentir como si estuvieras en los confines del mundo occidental de Europa. ¡Qué romántica!
Of course, I can't speak for the other one or few... I'm not the first, so maybe there was a Honeyprima from Spain at some point!
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>>587260810
Sonic channel, Amy asks him what he thinks of Blaze's maid dress and he says he prefers the princess outfit because it's easier to fight in that.
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Sonally is a flynnism
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>>587260869
Cool then
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>>587260885
Yeah but when they say "oh Silver you really don't know anything!" it's not an inherently romantic suggestion. It could be about fashion or just wanting him to say she looked pretty. Though I like the idea of Amy shipping them, as Amy also sent Blaze to help Silver in Victory Garden
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>>587260885
Makes sense. Silver is into tomboys after all.
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>>587260930
how when it predates him?
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>>587260998
I feel like amy and elise laughing at him and he also not understanding his own attractiveness in the maid outfit makes me think that
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>>587261009
Whisper isn't a tomboy?
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>>587260869
You are retarded this is why i hate oldfags
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>>587261059
*waiter not maid
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>the future of Sonic content
Shadamy
Sonaze
Silver and his comic harem until SoJ decides he needs a game wife
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>>587261073
I didn’t say she wasn’t.
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>>587261117
No, I am cnc (cool and canon)
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>>587261026
A mystery since the other head writers were actively trying to destroy it
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>>587261137
Is there anything actually concrete for shadamy
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>>587261026
It does, but the idea of Sonic happily settling down doesn't predate Ian.
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>>587261174
I am asserting she isn't. How is she a tomboy?
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>>587261137
The actual future:
Sonamy but sanitized to be corporate and boring
Blaze gets vaulted because her own fans hate her
Silver becomes more associated with the main cast after she gets vaulted and shiptease never comes up for him.
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>>587261314
Well she’s certainly no girly-girl, unless you count the constant crying.
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The actual future:.Sonic and Amy kiss in the movies and it becomes canon in the games in 2027
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>>587261225
Fowler and westoids jack off to this ship and they also prefer Sonaze.
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>>587261309
it does. picrel is from 1995, but it was an alt universe. ken said he asked sega how to write sonic and all they said was "sonic is cool"
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>>587261523
Do you remember what happened a few pages later
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>>587261486
What is there any evidence of Fowler liking Shadamy or any ship for that matter?
The last time westoids did sonaze was 4 years ago and it was boycotted, there is no future for blaze.
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>>587261551
it was the alt dimension of robo-robotnik where they thought they beat robotnik but he was sealed in a computer on a space station
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>>587261612
Exactly. Ken Penders never envisioned a happy romantic endgame for Sonic even without JP influence. Ian did.
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>>587261561
>4 years ago
IDW comic with Sonic praising Silver and Blaze together and Silvazefags feeling validated? At least the Sonazefags laugh their asses off at the Silvaze arc and the doe girl getting more attention than Blaze kek.
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>>587261646
I don't think that's how this works but fine
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It's 2026 and Penders is supposedly wind pilled while Ian is stuck on 90s westnic?
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>>587261742
How does it work? Under Ken Penders every path involving Sonic's love life ends in destruction. Under Ian it doesn't unless he's forced to by Sega.
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>>587261731
Yeah the silvazebait was probably written in the next issue due to how much boycotted the sonaze issue was. but i am not saying silvaze will get pushed either, blaze will probably just get vaulted because both of those duos are controversial.
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>>587261848
>EXPECTING A SONALLYSHITTER TO THINK
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>>587254098
Please?
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>>587261994
Use ai
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>>587253879
Vanilla is small breasted.
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>>587261848
That panel has sonic married with kids and a robotnik who is both imprisoned and disabled (he got turned into nicole lmao). it still kinda counts even if it was an alt universe
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>>587262043
Agree to disagree on account of imminent death. I would say the original light Mobius counts more than that since Penders was never given the opportunity to do his bs.
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>>587261390
Besides Amy, Cream, and Rouge, nobody really leans into their feminity. Whisper isn't girly but she's not actively tomboyish say, Tangle
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>>587262019
Ai is the devil
>>587262041
naizuri then
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>>587262437
>AI is the devil
and lust isn’t?
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>>587262437
Not only you're a useless retard with no skills but you don't want to use AI either. Fucking leech.
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>>587262123
was thinking about the original light mobius. what if they never made Shadow. or what if Penders didn't get infected with the Shadow autism like Fowler and Iizuka?
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Archie is so retardedly bleak when you get done reading it.

The core romance accidentally breaks every core tenant of the main character, so it got picked apart and eliminated once the (incredibly fucking lazy) parent company was forced to oversee the comic

Sega was shit at giving notes to the point the writers had to import copies of the games to tell the fucking story Sega asked for
Bunnie either gets raped or at a very bare minimum sexually assaulted.
Tails gets reunited with his family only for Sonic of all people to have the most uncomfortable interactions with them and then they die because of mandates.
Shadow gets to inspire a lonely girl. She dies crying about how she has no friends or family.
Knuckles gets to meet other echidnas and they're all ripped away from him. Julie Su dies alone in a cold empty void waiting for Knuckles to save her.

I keep saying die, but it's worse than dying. They don't even get an afterlife. They're completely erased. Worse than Thanos snapped. Sonic remembers it too. He remembers having parents and knowing other people but he just lets the memories fade because if he didn't that would go against the mandates.
Everything they do to Charmy is just misery porn. Imagine spending 24 years on will they won't they romance only for the answer to be "They don't. They forgot they ever did. We had to import the official personality from a different canon"

I gave it a try and this stuff just makes me mad. I don't care about accuracy to the games either.
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>>587262537
t. metal sonic
>>587262461
I wanna fuck her tits out of love
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The super genesis wave is what Archiefags deserves
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>>587262720
The super shittyness wave and its consequences
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>>587262826
Get an actual job and commission people who would gladly do it maybe
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>>587262720
>name is hope
>dies hopeless
You're wrong. Archie is hilarious.
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>>587262872
Archie unfortunately won because IDW got to canonize itself.
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>>587262720
I want Hope for myself
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>>587262720
Archie is just like 06 where people get attached to a version they imagine it being instead of what it actually did
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>>587262883
I've spent maybe 2-3k on this fetish
https://files.catbox.moe/wg26yd.png
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>>587262873
Reminder that the wave was NOT Sega's idea, and in fact, seems to be Ian's, as a petty reflection of how he felt about the legalities/mandates and a form of propaganda against the main canon invading his licensed fanfiction. But he regrets it, guys! He thought it was too meanspirited in retrospect! Don't go hard on him. :^)
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>>587262720
I’ve never cared to read the comics yet this is exactly how I imagined it would be like.

Pooriona.
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Tango
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>>587263126
I find value in what 06 ended up being, though it is much more about character relationships or themes than logistically written.
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>>587263138
You have serious issues.
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>>587263225
This is obvious when you read it. It's obvious Sonic Team just wanted the stuff that blatantly clashes with the games to be gone. They didn't specifically say "Kill all the characters. Retcon all the ships. Reset the timeline". It's just a reference to DC comics. That's why the reboot happens on issue 252. They didn't for a fucking reference.
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>>587263138
Subway~ Beat Fresh!
>2-3k
What the fuck, anon?
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>>587263341
perhaps. Will you indulge my addiction?
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There's an Arabic fan translation of Sonic Advance now
https://x.com/Abbas_console/status/2119678834383466837
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>>587263225
Sonic Team said stop making Sonic settle down and act like a romance guy. They didn't say turn all the women into lesbians and kill their families.
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>>587263515
>lust
>gluttony
>greed(?)
No.
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OPPAI
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>>587263772
cute!
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>>587263772
>Dies
>Was a clone all along
>Gets cucked and fails at her only job
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>>587263579
>nuoooo, we have to make a conlang of 2nd-language speakers to beat French!
Modern-Standard Arabic is a bigger lolcow of a language than Esperanto and will never reach the global power of the Big Four.
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>>587264081
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if you didn't want a super genesis wave why didn't you just keep sonic incharacter in the first place?
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>>587263506
it's really more like 1k, 2k is the other fetish
>>587263639
what if I learn to draw?
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Requesting Surge force feeding Sonic his weight in cheese. Not a sex thing.
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>>587264187
Archie fans keep saying there was no information on how Sonic was supposed to act, but all the mentions that Sonic isn't interested in romance exist long before Archie started shoving him in romance shit. You know even the fans knew this since they were shitting on 06 for even trying this shit.
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https://youtu.be/L5MVjmu9iCk

>Sega Console Swan Song: Live and Learn
>2000s era sincerity swan song: Live Life
What will be the next Sonic swan song?
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>>587264389
I think sega just compromised because it's literally Archie, it feeds on Betty/Veronica shit to sell.
Sonic team did talk about how off brand american stuff was multiple times but i imagine they were still under SEGA in authority
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>>587264081
seething frogophone escargoblasted that his dying language was ousted from 5th place
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>>587263772
I want to lift her up and make her pregnant
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>>587263235
I found (You), clone!
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>>587265029
Nope! It’s just the Fonz.
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>>587264187
The Super Genesis Wave's legal causes were the problem. Sega would've never gone so far as to let the Archie license expire and renegotiate if they hadn't dropped the ball on the WFH contracts
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>>587264389
At what point was Archie supposed to flip a switch? Sega never sent them material. Even as late as SA1 and 2, Sega was not being helpful, so all they could go off of was essentially what we as customers would have picking up an American game with its manual and watching the American cartoons.
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>>587265284
that anon know, he's just baiting. what they don't know however is that sonamy is ooc crackship. that shit was so fucking bad both segas joined hands in order to eliminate it
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this is where fiona belongs
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>>587265121
aww...
>>587262720
Wow, in its whole it does read like a massive shitposting. Apparently the super genesis bullshit raped everyone to the ground.

>Bunnie either gets raped or at a very bare minimum sexually assaulted.
Big question becuase i know this is about scourge, but how do you even rape a cyborg without a pelvis like bunnie?
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She spent the whole night crying about Shadamy again
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Sega did compromise with archie on sonally partly because sally was an OC not ever going to come to games or any of the ''on-brand'' sonic team material. it's also probably why Tailsmo got further than most sonic team made ships because cosmo also was never going to have lasting effects. they learned later that just letting side material do everything they can isn't a good move but unfortunately they didn't correct characterizations besides removing dating drama.
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>>587265464
Scourge didn't rape her via force, he 'raped' her via deception because she thought it was the real sugar-hog
It is presumable she has a cyborg pussy or something. In XYL she was able to have kids
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>>587265647
You say "got further" but I see Cosmo as no different to say, Shadria
SoJ never cared about Archie for a long time so it was SoA who was actively fighting for Sally and wanted to save her from Penders killing her
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>>587265384
Cute!
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>>587265649
>Scourge didn't rape her via force, he 'raped' her via deception
Well it's still rape, he just drugs and rape like a snake.
>It is presumable she has a cyborg pussy or something. In XYL she was able to have kids
This is so fucking stupid...
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>>587265647
It's a double-edged sword. Creatives tend to go too far when given cheque blanc, but if they're overly-restricted then their creativity withers and dies. The older I get, the more I believe that writers need an on-site 'tard-wrangler, like with, fuckin', Naruto, or whatever.
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Reminder Penders was unironically the good guy in the Chronicles lawsuit and Sega was plagiarizing his stuff
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>>587265852
Manga has editors. Editors is why Dragonball's Android Saga pivots from 19 & 20 to 17 & 18 to Cell. I don't know what's up with Naruto but it would've had an editor reigning it in too
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You guys make it sound like Penders just hated Sally
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>>587265904
It's not plagiarizing if you own the material, which they thought they did
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>>587265748
Eh they have more scenes than shadria like the amy's romantic charm thing or i think tails telling cosmo they are pretty, cosmo giving tails a ghost kiss or whatever. shadria is pretty ambigous unless you go out of your way to find staff comments or side material.
Yeah i would expect SOA to pull off this but SOJ still let them exist.
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>>587265649
>>587265464
I don't know who needs to hear this but rape by deception was a crime for about as long as rape in general was it's not like some new wave feminist thing. Tricking someone into sex or even just making out has been legally punishable since before you were born
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>>587266126
So when I tell a girl Im rich and she has sex with me for that i should be arrested and charged as a guy who brutally pinned her in an alleyway and took her by force
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>>587265948
Torishima was a retard and it shows just how talented Toriyama was at being able to deal with that bullshit to still create an engaging weekly arc. Naruto's editing is famous because Kishimoto wanted there to be animal people teaching the protagonist ninja stuff and be more of a gag/tournament manga, and his editor, Yahagi Kosuke, said "that's fucking retarded" and basically redesigned the entire setting for Kishimoto, including creating Sasuke and creating the basic outline of the Hidden Mist arc.

There's good editors and bad editors, of course, but any editor is better than none.
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>>587265948
It's not just editors; Manga are deey shaped by their business model, it's the weekly releases with ongoing stories where the author while full of creative freedom also has to answer to their publisher, the audience's reception shapes the stories in real time with popularity contests, changing plots to feature a popular character more often in the spotlight, coordinating with anime adaptation staff to decide what the animation team can expand upon, etc.
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>>587266203
There is no way to charge you for heresay but if you were to impersonate your twin and do the same thing she would have a case on you
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>>587265852
>The older I get, the more I believe that writers need an on-site 'tard-wrangler
Something like a Stan lee for marvel? Someone who's flexible but not too much, this remind me of disney when he died the company imploded because they had no ideas despite the best animators in the world.
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still thinking about the confirmation maekawa approves of them fucking
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>>587266239
Torishima was not a retard he saved the Cell saga with that call and him not being around for Buu is why the Buu is the worst arc of the original manga
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>>587263579
what the fuck was there to translate?
>menu text
SERIOUSLY? Bitch plz, the japs have put up with english since the begnning of gaming. friggin' CRYBABIES
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Rouge and Blaze are the actual ''besties'' not amy when you think about it
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>>587266296
I guess? I don't know much about Lee beyond /co/ shitpostan. I wish that someone had been in the office during the Metal Virus Arc to go, "Okay, no, you can't have Shadow act like a retard to get him out of the story," or, "Okay, no, you can't have Eggman lose control of the Virus," or, "Okay, no, you can't spend an issue where Sonic has amnesia in the Sol Dimension."
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>>587266660
>I wish that someone had been in the office during the Metal Virus Arc to go, "Okay, no, you can't have Shadow act like a retard to get him out of the story," or, "Okay, no, you can't have Eggman lose control of the Virus," or, "Okay, no, you can't spend an issue where Sonic has amnesia in the Sol Dimension."
I know I'm talking to a Fionafag so there's an entry-level of retardation here but, again, how do you think the process works? The pitch and script go through an editor and the licensor. There are multiple stopping points where things can and DID get toggled. Shadow acting like a retard was approved by Sega because Shadow losing with his Inhibitor Rings off was rejected by Sega. Nobody in the virtual room, editor or Sega, thought it was bad for Eggman to lose control of the virus or for Sonic's amnesia to bookend the Metal Virus
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You can't make me read Archie but I'll fuck the mess out of that fox
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>>587266660
This has been bothering me for a while so I fixed it.
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>>587267221
Fiona wasnt multicolored?
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>>587267160
Then everyone working on the comic is retarded and basically I'm fucking stupid for expecting more.
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>>587267426
Her tan belly disappears whenever she's wearing clothes
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>>587267426
It just looks terrible with the midriff.
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>>587267483
Hot is hot
>>587267475
Thats weird
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>>587267221
imagine the pussy smell...
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>>587236921
>>587267221
I don't care WHAT (You) say: these were different foxes, and the fur pattern was a subtle hint! Preboot just didn't get to that reveal.
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Hero - Tails
Heroine - Cream
Best Friend - Charmy
Tomboy - Marine
Rival - Kit
Antagonist - Sage
True Final Boss - Nine
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>>587267556
Proper color theory is sexy.
>>587267571
Always stinky.
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I want to have a brand new Shadow. Wide eyed, downy, damp from creation fluids, a clumsy blank slate still learning how its limbs work. Completely without the knowledge that it is a failed experiment. I would put him in a warm blanket in front of a heater until he's not cold or overwhelmed from the newness of reality, and then give him a good start to life instead of scientists who poke him.
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>>587267431
You will always be disappointed because the people working in this franchse don't hold it to the same standards as you. No one in Sega gives too much of a fuck if Shadow seems a little retarded in the hello kitty for boys (and girls) promotional comic book for dumb gaijin children.
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>>587267160
>I know I'm talking to a Fionafag so there's an entry-level of retardation here
Meanie!
>The pitch and script go through an editor and the licensor. There are multiple stopping points where things can and DID get toggled. Shadow acting like a retard was approved by Sega because Shadow losing with his Inhibitor Rings off was rejected by Sega.
Then sega is incompetent, like how me and others said for years they're just incompetent at handling this IP. According to penders if i remember right they used to not care about archie as well and even insert their own stupidity while everyone keeps blaming the writers.
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>sonic expo
VADE RETRO SATANA!
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>>587268859
Wade Retro Satam
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>>587267708
Classicfags would love this
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>>587253879
Nice
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>>587268245
You're right.
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>>587269036
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>>587263341
Got the reference
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One day i will converge with the other fionfags and form a super vixen.
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>>587269280
>"ARISE... TITAN FIONAFAG!!"
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>>587265384
>not only braking a yuri couple
>but pairing Tangle up with the skunk that's super power if farting
pure evil
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>>587267685
>"Classic Fiona" - Dr. Robotnik's "prototype" Auto Automaton
>Real Fiona appeared later then at some unknown point got replaced again
>the impostor is either the original Auto-Fiona with the recoloring due to parts of her body being rusted over, or a SECOND, NON-Proto auto-Fiona
>The real Fiona may be captured or worse by the time the wave hit, her legacy tarnished and forgotten
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>>587269251
You got the reference.
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>>587269330
*lapdances on the empire state building*
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Superior Amy Rose
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>>587269634
Yup.
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Supreme Sonic
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>>587269770
>large breasts
fucking retard
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>punk vs emo incident of 2008 , Mexico
Do Shadow and Kit beat the crap out of Scourge and Surge?
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>>587270121
Gay baby.
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>>587270237
Is that swole Knuckles in the corner
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>>587270204
No because emos are spineless and always job.
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>>587247014
Phones makes it back on the board baby!
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cnc
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>>587247014
The whiteboard becomes more and more empty with each passing month.
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>>587248475
That art on the left looks like SRB2 art, and now when I think about it, he really does look like an SRB2 OC
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>>587270614
>no new games
>just comicslop and movieslop
>no sonic characters for Crossworlds
Bleak.
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>>587270752
They will probably have to announce something after Pico park releases
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>>587270614
We thought we conquered the blues, off-whites, and doodlemutts, but they are outbreeding the pure-whites....
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What was Moviedow doing in Reno in 1974?
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>>587270752
>>587270614
People didnt fuck with the whiteboard politics and we have less artists coming here anyway. Seriously think about the fact that the average poster is a phoneposting zoomer. How and why would they bother to care about the whiteboard?
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>>587270614
Because the whiteboard is shit
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>>587270614
Admittedly, I'm sort of over Sonic at this point, so it's hard to find motivation. The universe is so obliterated at this point I struggle to care about the characters anymore, anything I find fun to draw is just shit from the 2000s and earlier, while that's all been retconned anyway to make way for the new interpretations.
Also Amy doesn't love Sonic anymore and has no upskirts, I'm untethered.
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>>587270237
if that's tiny
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File deleted.
slowest i've ever been
full res: https://files.catbox.moe/hbsovl.png
see you some other time
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>>587271236
Now this is the real whiteboard, Hotshelter can go fuck herself
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>>587271236
BLUEBOARDANON YOU FORGOT TO CENSOR THE PIC
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>>587271076
>whiteboard politics
Uhh, I open it and doodle on it. The hell are you talking about?
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>>587271134
This is so relatable
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>>587271134
Then just draw 2000s stuff
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>>587271236
Nice tits
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>>587271076
Zoomers are wrong. One day, we'll see it.
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>>587271325
Idk anon how about
>who runs it?
>thus, who gets to control what goes on it?
>who decides what is and isnt valid for it
Etc. the whiteboard died for a reason
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>>587271236
BLUEBOARD!! NIP-SLIP!! Delete that NOW or YOU'LL DIEEEEE!!!
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>>587271134
It’s remarkable how you guys were actively looking for upskirt shots in that ADHD-ridden short from a few months back just to freak the fuck out over spats that would easily be confused for shading by anyone else.
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>>587271494
This attachment to sitting at the computer is so stupid
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>>587271236
>>587271313
thar u go
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>>587271496
What was removed? I don't think anything's ever been removed from the WB as long as it can be posted on a blue board
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>>587271496
Also, registration for the booru has been closed for months, so there's really no incentive for new artists to do shit here.
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>>587271534
*exhales cigarette smoke*
... You just don't get it...
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>>587270614
damn, wish this was my request
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>>587271534
>anon doesn't understand soul
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>>587271614
Why cant we just make a second booru or something
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What if Amy wore bloomers instead of spats?
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>>587271586
>butt this is ok
never change, chan
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>>587271805
haha silly anon, bark's hand is just behind bean's back
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>>587271805
300 bucks well spent
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>>587271739
If someone suggests a decent solution (open source, other website, whatever) I could scrape the whole thing and create the new booru. Hell, I would pay the hosting myself.
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>>587271902
What's wrong with the current Booru, exactly?
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>>587271902
I can look for one.
https://booru.github.io/
I just found this. You can take a look at it
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>>587271784
>bulma
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>>587271949
There's a fatfuck over there who closes registration whenever he pleases, doesn't bother reopening it, and deletes content whenever his ego gets bruised.
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>>587271784
That's already what it's supposed to be. Her panties weren't sexy triangles. They were fat and circular bloomers
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>>587271236
>>587271586
Nice.
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https://files.catbox.moe/appiyp.png
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https://litter.catbox.moe/sdmagv.jpg
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>>587272224
why does she torment silver
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>>587272334
>>587272224
can you draw this ?
>>587253879
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>>587272224
The resolution on this sucks do better
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>>587272364
He doesn't know how to masturbate so he's just full of pent up cum
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>>587272364
Tomboys can’t resist him
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>/sthg/ complains about Evan and Uwuver all the time
>/sthg/ requests and draws Uwuver all the time
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>>587272482
Uwuver getting sexually harassed by a bad bitch is hot. I don't know what to tell you.
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>>587272456
>>587272364
fiona is trying to bring the gay cum out of silver
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Ha зaлитых кpoвью лyгaх
Bнoвь poждaютcя цвeты
Hoвыe дeти cтapoй Зeмли
Oни бyдyт тaк чиcты

И пpaвильный миp, чиcтeнький миp
Boзвeдyт нe впoпыхaх
Oни видят cны, их яcныe cны
И бeз кpoви нa pyкaх

Bcё бyдeт тaк? Coн, ты нe вpёшь?
Toгдa зaчeм жe эти cны?
Hy a пoкa здecь тoлькo нoж
У гopлa paнeнoй вecны
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>>587271686
What are you talking about?
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>>587272482
>MKuwu
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>fiona x silver
godspeed with your ship, anon
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>>587272482
It's a well know fact that /sthg/ is one person
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>>587272482
Canon is different from what you can enjoy in fanon
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>>587272674
my vanilla req.
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>>587272482
I like Uwuver more than Canonver
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Suck on my shaft.
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>>587272618
but canon silver is >>587266812
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Do chicks ship silviona?
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Everyone wants the Silverdick
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Shadally
Fiover

and soon... Clovnic
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ADAM DREW SALETA
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>>587273120
sthg escaped
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>>587273120
jesus fucking christ why does he look 55
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>>587272854
I like their chronicles design
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>>587273194
anon doesnt look like that
anon isnt a woman
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>>587267168
Blackblur...
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>>587273120
Where is Saleta in Scribbo Chronicles
I know she's going to be in it. I want to fucking see.
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>>587273019
No, silviona is exclusively 4chan shitpost
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>>587273280
Years of carrying the Sonic comics
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Adam drew that too
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I just saw Fiona and Silver kissing each other...
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>>587273554
cnc
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>>587273294
yeah they look really good, god i miss the swatbots so much
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>>587273554
Adam drew a lot of things
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This is the only thing Fiona is remembered for outside of Archie fans
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does that mean silver is immune to rouge
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>>587273302
>anon doesnt look like that
>anon isnt a woman
keep telling yourself that bud
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>>587273554
uwooauoAOUUUUUUGHHHHHAAAUHHHHHH
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>>587273720
even with messy lines his stuff still looks good
damn
maybe one day
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>>587273690
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>Egg Bosses
Cool concept or meh?
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>>587273120
Whos the hot babe on the left
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>>587273983
Completely OOC for game Eggman. He likes to govern his robots himself and he can't get along with organics for a long period of time.
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https://litter.catbox.moe/d8wud3.jpg
https://litter.catbox.moe/ogmyoo.jpg
https://litter.catbox.moe/1gv6vs.jpg
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>>587273906
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>>587274071
no pubes??
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>>587273983
We had this argument like 2 weeks ago but bottom line, no, it's ooc for game eggman for a myriad of reasons. The games have already done thisconcept"
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Xtreme
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>>587274206
"concept" in superior ways*, i was cutoff from finishing
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>>587273983
JP Eggman doesn't have the charisma to get people to work for him on purpose. They need to be allies of convenience like Team Dark or tense pawns like Infinite
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>>587274071
Very interested on why he did Hilda futa of all things. What even causes these to come about
And whats the insistence on the furry aspect like giving rouge those footclaws
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>>587272482
Don't know what to tell you
Fanon is just funnies and shit
Canon is just retarded and painful
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>>587274071
taking requests?
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>>587274546
that's abt's art you fat retard
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Eggman is so cheap he couldn't even pay the Chaotix
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>>587273120
We are behind this but i can't prove it
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>>587274029
That's a dude
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>>587274958
Sallybros...
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>>587274925
I said what i said im 2026 straight
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>>587273726
only men are posting on /sthg/
at most some boys are here too
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is it true mobian women have that grippy pussy
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>>587274071
>>587274612
I need an ABT art archive, stat
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>>587272854
>>587273294
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>>587273983
I personally like them but can understand why some don't. That said, I say no to more non-robots working for the Eggman Empire. They don't have to be important, just middle-management goons to keep the factories going and the trains running on time (tasks that would be too much for the average bot)
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>>587275870
*I wouldn't say no
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>>587275771
It's not what you think it is, I swear!
It's called RARE Humour - look it up!
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eggboss shit was just turning eggman into lex luthor. ian clearly learned his lesson since the dc comic shows exactly why eggman is a poor fit to lead a group of villains
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>>587275870
>>587276095
Again it's ooc for the same reason. Eggman very rarely hires outside help—he would prefer to directly build, create, or conquer/enslave. There is no salaried employee working for the Eggman Empire and there never will nor should be. The most he does is hire someone like Fang or the Chaotix when the circumstance sensibly calls for it.
This management idea in particular would be bad because Sage, Orbot, and Cubot already all handle logistics. You don't need middle-management goons to run some Badnik factory
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>>587275870
>>587276095
Eggman shouldn't have biological underlings, but that shouldn't exclude another villain from having a criminal hierarchy. Clutch would've been great having multiple shell companies if the team knew how to write better. Rough and Tumble being the comedic enforcers while someone like Mimic being an actual threat once per season would've been interesting. I just don't think the writing team is working on a bible to help establish different criminals' goals, motivations, and structures properly, so that a different villain could suit a different story highlighting different secondary characters while Sonic's running the narrative.

For example, Eggman being declared autocrat and utilizing massive bases that are difficult for the Resistance to assault; Clutch having multiple fronts that are difficult to shut down because they are, technically, useful to everyone, but operate criminally; and a villain like Starline, using multiple different, disconnected cells that don't interact with each other, meaning it's impossible to really shut down his plans because none of the groups know what the other groups are planning.
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Shadow's penis zone

My human pussy
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>>587276242
he froze one of the eggbosses and left him in a storage room. he was using them the same way he is using clutch nowadays. through black mail
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Silver's penis zone

My fox pussy
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>>587263138
>>587263515
...You know what? I can respect it.
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Evan Stanley cannot draw human women.
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We need to go back to the classic ways where every boss fight was an Eggman machine
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>>587277324
and that's ok!
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who is the bigger whore? sally or fiona...?
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>>587277685
look at how fiona dresses in jail
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>>587273095
*Bussy
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Why are people so obsessed with needing "a rogues gallery"?

Sonic isn't spider-man. Im not even against introducing new villains, but this idea that Sonic "has a rogues gallery problem that needs to be addressed" never made sense to me.
It'd be like saying Mario, Zelda, Kirby or Metal Gear lacks a "rogue's gallery".
It's insisting upon a thing and then pretending its a solution to a made up problem. It's snake oil.
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>>587278237
Archie
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>>587276691
The Eggbosses are more than just "well he blackmailed them so its fine". The Egg Bosses are portrayed as a way Eggman obtains and maintains control over a region. That is plainly bad for a proper IC eggman. He doesn't need people to run different sectors of the empire or whatever. He can send out Badniks/his upper creations or he can lead a charge himself.
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>>587278237
ArchieSHIT. Bully archiefags.
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>>587278237
It's not that Sonic needs a rogues gallery, it's that not every plot that the IDW team is coming up with fits with what Eggman would do as a villain. Other villains should exist to facilitate reasonable plot lines. The problem is that the writers don't know how to make these other villains appear competent without making Eggman feel less than villain, though Eggman is already a victim of narrative dissonance because some writers want IDW Eggman to be Archie Eggman, others want him to be Boom Eggman, and others still want him to be le wholesome chungus Father Eggman.
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>>587278318
>>587278461
So it's another "mobians" thing? Seriously. The entire thing is like those old commercials where they show you some fancy banana peeler and insist everyone who is anyone has one and you will look weird if you don't.
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A problem I have with Forces and IDW is that it never clearly communicates how a population fares under the Eggman occupation. How do they live? What is their role as subjects of Eggman? Who/what is responsible for administrating these conquered territories? Why conquer a people if you have no use for them? You can't claim empire when it barely functions like one at all.
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>>587278237
It's a western idea, but it's not one I'm so ready to immediately dismiss. His Japanese peers may not need rogues galleries, but his American peers (or betters) can be a helpful inspiration to aspire to. Spider-Man and Batman have the best ones and this is great because those are solid characters with great fights, dynamics, and contrast/foil against the hero in their own right.
In this regard, Sonic has more of a rivals gallery. Aside from Eggman, his rivals(including friendly ones) of Knuckles, Shadow, Metal, Blaze, Silver, and Surge all (theoretically) serve to show off something about Sonic while (hypothetically) being great strong characters in their own right.
So I never believe it's about "well Sonic just needs 10 villains", it's about "well I want Sonic to not just have a Joker but also have a Riddler, Clayface, Hugo Strange, Mr Freeze, Penguin etc"
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>>587278679
Why lump IDW when that's exclusively on Forces?
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No, Spider-mans rogue's gallery sucks. None of them were written with repeated battles in mind. You only like them due to their adaptations. How many times is the same fucking guy going to turn himself into a giant lizard, get defeated, and realize the error of his ways? Rogues galleries are a shitty way to work around characters not aging.
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>>587278679
The Eggman Empire is supposed to be a mechanized autonomous zone that glorifies Eggman's ego. There aren't supposed to be living things in his Empire. It's an industrialized, continuous, permanent, self-functioning entity that's "perfect" and a testament to Eggman's genius that functions in perpetuity, indefinitely. The more his Empire expands, the more others should be relocated out, creating a refugee crisis.

S1-S3&K Robotnik made more sense because abducting creatures to run his machines made more sense, because the ultimate end of the current Eggman Empire is mass extermination for all living things.
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>>587278949
They are iconic even if they can't all be Green Goblin and Doc Ock level. That iconicism can be strived towards
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>>587263126
It's troubling the fact that the Ian Flynn Pre Genesis run is finite. Once you know the story of 160-250, it feels incomplete. The individual arcs are good, but it's a couple dozen issues with a super unsatisfying ending.
If Archie was like Ian's preboot style for longer, and Penders groundwork was still there, it'd be way better.
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>>587271805
Downright peculiar…
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>>587279120
How many green goblin stories written after his tenth encounter with Spider-man are iconic?
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why does maekawa say he likes yuri
was that pixiv acc really him?
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>>587278998
This is Robohitler thinking. Eggman wants to take over the world. That's why the Adventure games didn't just limit him to "well everyone and everything has to be a robot", and why modern games let him play with the idea of even just mind control without the robot part
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Oh yeah, I just remembered that there is a small horse x Fallout 1.6 million word long fanfiction, that scratches the Archie itch when it comes to "over the top" and "fighting action" and "worldbuilding and lore" pretty well. At least that exists.
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>>587278237
>>587278674
Having a different/twist final enemy every once in a while is healthy, but putting a rogue's gallery in a longrunning videogame franchise is how you end up with shit like K. Rool vanishing for over a decade.
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>>587279418
Define "take over the world".
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>>587279281
Do you just not like Spider-Man or something
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>>587279290
Yes, check the birthday on the profile then Google maekawa's birthday
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There is a reason the games, when introducing a new villain, always introduce them as either someone working with or for Eggman or somrthing that gets unleashed by him, because if not you undermine him as a villain.

Eggman as a villain in the games works because he is able to make machines and contraptions for Sonic to fight.

Characters like Knuckles, Infinite, Fang, Shadow, etc work with him temporarily so its fine. They become just a convenient asset.

Characters like Chaos, Mephiles, Dark Gaia are evil in a can that gets unsealed and then delt with.

Erazor, Void and Merlina exist in storybooks or other realms so its not an issue.

GUN was made mainly to satisfy the function of Eggman while still letting Eggman have something to fight as well. They are like the reverse Knuckles in that respect.

Black Doom Dark Gaia and Mephiles also accomplish this by being able to create minions for the heroes to fight.

IDWs problem is they keep thinking just having a singular strong character is enough but it isn't.

The DC crossover had Darkseid and his parademons so that worked.

The Godzilla Crossover has the Kaiju which are comparable to things like Perfect Chaos or the Biolizard and there is enough of em and they are imposing enough to act as an ongoing issue.
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>>587279290
He might like yuri
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>>587279559
I fucking HATE Spider-man comics
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>>587276235
Eggman was perfectly fine working with the Legion of Doom. He loved them. It was more them who couldn't stand him. The Metal Legion was a contingency plan.

>>587278998
>the ultimate end of the current Eggman Empire is mass extermination for all living things
picrel
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>>587279534
He wants to rule it and he wants the adoration and recognition that comes with that. To assume anything further is headcanon.
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>>587271805
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>>587278679
>>587278998

The Eggman Empire isn't an actual territory.
Its closer to a company than a geopolitical body.
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>>587279696
>if not you undermine him as a villain.
How
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>>587279776
NTA I've never been able to get into superhero comics. But Ultimate Spider-Man 1610 seemed pretty great, even if I didn't get deep into it.
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>>587278949
Tbh, that's spiderman sucking in general more than anything. It just resets and tells the same story over and over but slightly different like TMNT.
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>>587278998
>"Those idiots! They're destroying everything! How can I take over the city and build the Eggman Empire is there is no city?!"
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>>587279983
ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN ONLY WORKS BECAUSE IT FUCKING ENDED
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>>587279805
>contingency
He did this from the start. i'd say that's beyond contingency, it's planning. Even so, the Legion are from the DC world, a new world he is entering. If they entered his world, he'd simply subjugate them as if they were the Deadly Six
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>>587280280
>Luthor fell victim to superior Mobian sloppy
A case as old as time...
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>>587279918
If there are just like 5 or 6 other guys just floating around that can generate mass armies that can take over at a moment's notice other than Eggman, he becomes decentered.
That's why they are always temporary. GUN has a militia but they are still portrayed as not really a good answer to Eggy and are also kinda grey.
They are more the kid Eggman bullies and gives swirlies.
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>>587280118
Always go with Japanese.
That said, Eggman was gonna raze down Station Square to build Eggmanland over it. The Black Arms were simply a competing army in the way (and grabbing Chaos Emeralds), which is why his next line is "I can't stand their tyranny! Eggman armada, move out!"
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>>587280469
>decentered
So this just felt like another buzzword after "undermine". I see the point but what does that mean exactly
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>>587280469
One idea I do like is that GUN is on the mainland that is predominantly humans. They can't get to where Sonic and his friends are because Eggman stops part of their advances, and the Resistance doesn't want them around. So, GUN has to rely on freelancers like Rouge to gain intelligence on what Eggman is up to.

And then Lanolin joins GUN and sells out the Resistance.
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>>587280578
Damn Shadow is a failure
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RoboHitlerfag, stop trying to turn Sonic into HoI4 or Age of Empire, you fucking proto-tranny.
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>>587280578
This was always odd to me. Introduce the disease to his body, his body should generate the antibodies, you can use that to make a cure, no?
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>>587280752
>being retarded on purpose.
Eggman stops being the main villain and becomes "just another villain".
The setting is Sonic is supposed to be that thongs are pretty chill and peaceful until Eggman starts shit.
This isn't a world at constant war.
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>>587280784
>the Resistance doesn't want them around
The Resistance isnt a thing.
You dont even read the comic. Larper.
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>>587280784
This vastly overrates GUN. Eggman can do what he wants on the mainland, nobody from GUN got in his way during Unleashed (and they've had more than enough time since the GUN resurgence to establish what they were doing at that time if they were doing anything of note)
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Can we talk about how Surge is the perfect love interest for JP Sonic?
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>>587280784
What if GUN was secretly bankrolling the Resistance to dislodge Eggman?
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GUN never mattered after Shad05. You get splashes of them existing, but not anything that leads to something of value
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It's so fucking gay that this series decided to become continuity heavy after Forces. Shadow the Hedgehog also featured a disaster that affected the entire planet but none of following media treats it the way Forces is. Forces is almost 10 years old and we still have to deal with the retarded decisions from that game.
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>>587280880
Maria's illness wasn't a normal disease. It's not actually supposed to be contracted, Ian put fanfiction in there. Maria had a congenital immune disorder present from birth. It's genetic and causes the immune system to fail to function. There is no disease to cure, Maria's body is literally defective.
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>>587281249
Tailstube establishes Eggman stomped GUN during Forces so if you mean that Resistance, definitely not.
If you mean the Restoration, this is always a possibility they could try down the line (likely in non-IDW media such as Casefiles), but that feels like it would defeat the purpose of the Restoration and has to be contained to Lanolin and her efforts/the new Diamond Cutters. It's only Lanolin who wanted to be proactive and spearhand finding Eggman before he does stuff.
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>>587281334
NOTHING has mattered after Shad05, that's why we're having these discussions in the first place.
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I wish Tangle would chase Sonic than being held down by her friends who are all couch potatoes.
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>>587281334
>>587281432
It's weird that the adventure saga goes up to Shad05 and just stops. 06 undoes itself and all of the following games are scared of being serial until Frontiers.
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>>587281358
Sonic Frontiers did not linger on the global impact of Forces, it treated Forces the same nonexistant way Colors treated Unleashed or Lost World treated Gens.
This is specifically a comic/multimedia matter
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Just make a better villain than Eggman but they die afterwards
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>>587281334
Probably because they are seen as something just mostly related to Shadow's character rather than another active force in the world. Of course the human gag order didn't help
>>587281367
Where do you get all that info?
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>>587281659
His name is Starline and he's not staying
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>>587280596
>Always go with Japanese.
OK
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>>587281659
You got that in SA2
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>>587281549
What's even worse is that I think IDW treats everything in SA1, 2, Heroes, ShtH, parts of '06, Forces, and Frontiers as happening within the span of a single year.
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>>587270908
He was in outer space, not on earth
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>>587281784
>I think
You think wrong because IDW doesn't bring up timelines. It only brings up the fact that Forces had a 6 month timeskip. Ian has separately stated how its possible that everything in the Modern series happened in under a year but this was not only his conjecture, but is likely not sticking due to ages being removed since that's half of the reason it was ever contentious
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>>587281767
>>587281772
Unrelated to Eggman
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>>587281659
Gerald? Black Doom?
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>>587281921
>but is likely not sticking due to ages being removed since that's half of the reason it was ever contentious
That's what (You) think.
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>>587282087
Cool guess we'll see
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>>587281767
>Starline
>Better than Eggman
Lul
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>>587282180
Starline was incredibly popular with the female audience.
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>>587282276
>female
Coming from IDW, I have my doubts about such (((females))).
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Geez Maria's VA sounds old did she get old? Its only been 20 years since your last time doing this what happened?
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>>587261469
This is what most people are expecting to happen
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuLf5C0Q8xc
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>>587282405
20 years is a long time and in your 50s and 60s, your voice begins to change and doesn't sound young anymore
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THE ONLY REASON THEY'RE MAKING THAT ANIMATED SHORT IS BECAUSE OF THE FUCKING MOVIE
THE ONLY REASON SHADOW GENERATIONS EXISTED WAS BECAUSE OF THE FUCKING MOVIE
THE ONLY REASON WE GOT THE KNUCKLES ANIMATED SHORT WAS BECAUSE OF THE FUCKING MOVIE
THE ELECTRICITY SHIT IN THE GAMES IS JUST BECAUSE OF THE FUCKING MOVIE
SONIC PRIME IS WRITTEN LIKE ASS BECAUSE OF THE FUCKING MOVIE
TAILS ACT LIKE THAT IN THE MANGA BECAUSE OF THE FUCKING MOVIE
EVERYONE IN THE SHITTY GODZILLA COMIC IS JUST WRITTEN LIKE THE FUCKING MOVIE
THE ONLY REASON HUMANS ARE BACK IS BECAUSE OF THE FUCKING MOVIE
WE AREN'T BACK TO ADVENTURE KINO WE'RE IN MOVIE HELL
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>>587283670
Can you remove Shadow from there thank you
>>587283654
True, Money is the leader.
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The best Silver ship is with...
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>>587283654
Movie-isms will fully replace ian flynnisms and maybe evanisms in future.
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>>587281659
They can't, every antagonist outside Eggman sucks.
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>>587283670
The Argies are alright.
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>>587283861
Shadow stays with his wife
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>>587283834
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>turning Clutch into Eggman's slave
why? Ian telling Evan that he wants to revive the stupid egg boss concept?
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>>587283514
p much all sonic vas are in 60s now
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>>587284096
We gotta wait and see
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Artist habit vs Rumble
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>>587284207
Artist habit is dogshit do they even like sonic
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>>587283654
>SONIC PRIME IS WRITTEN LIKE ASS BECAUSE OF THE FUCKING MOVIE
>TAILS ACT LIKE THAT IN THE MANGA BECAUSE OF THE FUCKING MOVIE

These parts are untrue
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>>587283964
Shadow is a forever lonely fag, his biggest ship is with Sonic.
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>>587283887
lesser evil
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>>587284207
the people yearn for a defined torso
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>>587284096
It was a good concept and you are a nigger.
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>>587283871
White chocolate
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>>587283918
They still lost the world cup and their so called top player
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>>587283871
Shadilver
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>>587281769
What, NO, I can't read that! When I say "Japanese" I mean the BLPDemon's refilter, GOSH everyone knows that! Get with the TIMES unc.
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>my rubberhose cartoons should look more realistic
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>>587283964
I don't see Maria anywhere in that pic
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>>587284796
I can tell how pissed he is to be surrounded by this incompetent zoo
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>>587284412
I predict in 2030
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>>587284662
Yeah, but when they won the World Cup in 2022, I got to see Argentinian titties.
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>>587284891
I wish Sonic had realistic fur and a gritty appearance and grunge like Brawl Sonic
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>>587284341
DON'T FUCKING LIE TO ME SHILL
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>>587283871
>Blaze with Silver
>takes a billion years to confirm their feelings for each other

>Fiona with Silver
>already stole his virginity
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>>587284796
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>>587283871
Nothing, but Blaze is the only one i see ''potential''
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>>587285423
Why is most Fiona pr0n I see so unappealing? She’s too pretty for this fate.
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>>587284796
out of character
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>>587285559
Easy
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>>587281432
When will sonic matter again
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>>587285795
cnc
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>>587285808
Never, Sonic has overstayed his welcome in the gaming space.
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>>587285795
cnc
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Average Sonic fan
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>>587286051
Ic Shadow
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>>587284450
>furries and fangirls yearn for a defined torso.
Fixed.
Also pants. Fangirls like pants.
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how did shadow knock amy up if he's infertile
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>>587285424
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>>587283871
Sonic
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>>587286303
Where did the Shadow is infertile headcanon come from? He's the ultimate life form.
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I hope sonic games getting more languages means they will listen to more non americans because i trust almost anyone not american more for sonic atp
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>>587286479
>Thunderbolt imagining herself as Sage's mother
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>>587286303
He made that up because he has no chance with her but wanted to look cool
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>>587286579
That's exactly why. Since he is, he doesnt have a reason to reproduce. We developed reproduction as a cope for the fact we eventually wither and die. So he wouldnt need it.
Whatsmore is being a genetic mutant mutt, it would also hamper his ability to do so.
Also he is Black Arms who also cant do that since they are a hivemind.
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>>587286479
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>>587287408
I understood that reference.
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>>587287127
The games never said he's a hybrid. Maria was surprised he came out as a hedgehog.
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>>587286859
>sneakers
>rocket shoes
Fuck westfags man...
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>>587288084
Calling it now, Future Sonic is fucking dead because he gave up his life to save Amy. The Amy we see at the end of Sonic 3 is actually Future Amy who says nothing ever happened between them because the Sonic she knew never admitted his feelings before dying. Present Sonic meets Present Amy at the end of the movie and puts in an effort to be more romantic.
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>>587287959
I didnt say he was, schizo.
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>>587288213
What happened to her chocolate scoops?
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>>587286747
>Thunderbolt breastfeeding Sage
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>>587288084
>Time Travel
Eww. That means SHITver will be the post-credit scene.
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>>587286859
>usually happy excluding times he has to save the world
Which version of Sonic are they talking about? That is OOC for every version except maybe Movienic when he's pissed
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>>587288394
That would be lame if the Amy we spend time with during the movie isn't the one we stay with going forward.
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>>587288532
SHITver and his accessory Blaze*

fuck... fowler really wants to force shadamy and sonaze...
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>>587288084
>team sonic
This is unironically worse than making Team Dark canon
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>>587288730
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>>587288532
Rapes you*
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>>587288702
because we are sonic heroes!
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>>587288647
It's a live-action Sonic movie, it's already lame. Amy also isn't going to be voiced by Lisa Ortiz / Cindy Robinson so I don't even know why we care about it.
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>>587288767
source
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>>587288774
>Amy also isn't going to be voiced by . . . Cindy Robinson
Damn, an upgrade.
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abesdrawings
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>>587289007
thanks
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>>587271586
Love your work, sorry if i missed the post hopefully you're doing alright.
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Shiro Maekawa is a Baytriot
https://x.com/mizuhano/status/498318748948770817
https://x.com/mizuhano/status/105635320028069888
If Maekawa stayed at SEGA, we would've gotten Bayformers inspired Sonic.

He also likes Transformers Go, and favorably compared it to the Brave series https://x.com/mizuhano/status/1827620187849556336

Maekawa really likes transforming robot toys.

Anyways, does anyone have a link to Maekawa's Pixiv? I'd like to see it.
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>>587296864
https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/1402983
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>>587296864
What an odd post to make unprompted and not be related to anything else at all.



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