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Maidlock Edition

>Latest patch:
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450/view/680766201707627248

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki/
>Collection of useful character builds
https://deadlockmeta.com/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
https://deadlock-api.com/
>Unofficial Competitive News
https://edl.gg/
https://www.deadfrag.com/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

Threadlocked: >>587211231
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Butt Silver
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we need a bee hero
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She's in
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Shiv is the troubadour
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You guys ever use the steamvents like this?
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>>587248518
Yes, on drifter
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>drifter webm
Attentionwhore time
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wraith and vindicta if the game weretn woke
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Kinda got carried in this one but at least the enemy team got punished for mindlessly brooling down blue lane non-stop like a bunch of fucking Marvel Rivals playing retard monkeys
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Why do people just flat out refuse to give up Rift? Had a dude complain because I didn't help him fight a 1v5 (it was just me and him nearby) because "bro we could've contested". Like yeah bro we could've contested for 10 seconds before both becoming SA victims
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>>587248645
>nooo DONT POST GAMEPLAY POST STUFF LIKE THIS!!!!!!!
>>587248738
>>587248335
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>>587248738
>esl porn addict seething
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>>587248738
Vindicta has those proportions already, it's just hidden to the untrained eye by the dress
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Sex with Venator
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now that I got your attention, how do we buff Harrow?
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literally none of the new heroes are fun to play against, it's a complete net negative
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Guy that revived Graves is making Capacitor Haze build
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>>587248948
get rid of her heal and instead make it a damage on hit ability
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>>587248645
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Lash sex
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>>587248335
I'm in her.
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>>587248948
Remove the shoot to heal hero shooter ability and remove the "grief your frontliner" shield
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>>587248965
Rat King, just because you can light melee his granade into your teammate
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>>587249157
>Remove the shoot to heal hero shooter ability
learn how to aim!
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Remove parries, they are cheats
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>>587248948
We don't, release Harrow was a good example as to why the game shouldn't have a dedicated healer character. It's not fun to play against someone who can get a teammate from 1hp to full in 2 seconds
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I'm going to spam billy ONLY for the next 3 days. see you in ranked VERY soon :D
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why does nobody know how to use midboss in my shitlo
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>>587249325
just tell them to go mid and they will
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>>587248948

I'm not convinces she is bad. From what I've seen, people build her like full retards and overcommit to gimmicks instead of making solid support builds on her

All the builds I see seem to focus on getting way too much ammo without considering the need for firerate and potency per shot. Or they make gummick builds with bloodtribute, toxic bullets, etc.

Basically, any build that doesn't just go
>tit.mag, qsm, heroic aura
As their first three items is literally throwing.
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>>587249325
using midboss to farm is lowkey a strat. shitlow players will hide in their base if your team has rejuvs because they're expecting a siege. so you just take every resource on the map and fatten up while they do nothing
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>>587249349
I mean we take mid and they just go back to farming instead of going for objectives
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Just had a retard wannabe m1gger Harrow grief my ranked game by never healing anybody and going 1/13
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>>587249325
I think the correct way to say this is "why don't we know how to use midboss in shitlo"
You are a part of them so you also don't know how to use it. Pretty simple.
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I wish I could retract all my votes for Danny
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>/dlg/ with Paige and Rem: .........
>/dlg/ with Harrow: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE NERF HER NOW AAAAAIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEE
???
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How much % of your overall damage should 1600/3200/6400 damage oriented item do for it to be considered Valueable
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>>587248189
what position is celeste supposed to be. i can't figure out how much i need to farm with her.
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So what heroe do diddy ahh blud play?
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>>587249616
I don't understand this question. You know that if you buy a 1600 item you get 1600 worth of investment, right? You're buying items for their effects. If damage is just what you want then buy anything it doesn't matter.
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>>587248518
IDF tier strategy
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>>587249687

Celeste is a caster (Mina, Pocket are other examples of Casters), which is an offcarry role.

Basically, you want a shitton of farm.
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>>587249532
retard
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>>587249782
so like 2?
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Paige-Violet lane is really strong
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>>587249687
pos2, you need some investment to reach your peak. tp + radiant + 4.8k green and you become the server admin for a while.
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>>587249687
You're like a midlaner in Dota.
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>>587249687
2-3
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why are mina's thighs bigger than her head
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>>587249868
Paige-anyone lane is strong
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https://www.reddit.com/r/DeadlockTheGame/comments/1xrgfw1/cloud9_are_set_to_enter_deadlock_with_the_signing/
furion can you tp top
furion can you tp top
furion can you tp top
furion can you tp top
furion can you tp top
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>>587249782

Speaking of roles, in my head I've kinda settled on there beng roughly six niches for hero kits/direction

Dps
>Carry, Caster/Nuker
Frontline
>Tank, Brawler
Enablers
>Support, Pick

Carry scales hard on m1, caster scales hard on ability damage. Tanks has methods of starting the fight and survives in the middle of it, Brawlers are survivable close quarters fighters, Supports are your typical support fare, Pick are heroes who can get to people that aren't necessarily out of position.

Though I think the internal Valve categories rate heroes on a scale for 1-5 on the following metrics
>How good is this hero on non-CC support and allied healing?
>How good is this hero at frontline
>I forget what the question for dps was. I don't think I get that one very frequently.
Then hero comps probably is that you need a certain score in the big three categories.
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>>587249831

Yeah, she's a 2. But there is so much farm in Deadlock that you should just get as much as possible. She is decent at stealing camps too.
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>>587250046
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Eido absolutely seething right now.
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>>587249804
post rank
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>>587250094
I basically have the same framework, if the api is anything to go by(it probably isn’t) then valve internally has a 4 role system, mystic/marksman/brawler/assasin
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When Silver buffs
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>>587250164
It’s ok, the rest of them will be kicked soon enough
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>>587250210
silver will never be buffed unless they adjust how her ult functions. I know typical /dlg/ and just in general deadlock players are fucking retarded but try to understand the volatility of a character that gets steroids on everything when their ult pops.
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>>587250172
I'm a quickplay merchant and you're still a retard
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>>587249604
Paige and Rem can't full heal an entire team 4 times with literally no cooldown while also not being invincible like release harrow was.
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I haven't played McGinnis in 2 years, and coming back its weird I've not seen her in any game in the past 20-30 hours genuinely. The fuck happened?

Her 2 doesn't even have fire rate anymore
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sadness/vegas duo when
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>>587250184

Yeah I've seen those labels, but I think it is some lingering thing that doesn't relate to the actual matchmaker (because when I looked at the labels they didn't correlate to what I actually get in matches and like 10 heroes were unlabeled).

Probabaly it is some sort of Beginner Tutorilization thing that isn't implemented yet.
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>>587250370
Got nerfed many times, she's still pretty decent but not good enough to attract fotm meta-chasers so only dedicated droolers play her.
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heavy melees are pretty cool
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>>587250210
She buffed
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>people still just walk down blue after dropping patron and get raped by the respawning enemy team instead of just going through their jungle (and taking a camp or two)
fucking retard teammates
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>>587250094
For me it's
>DPS
>Burst
>Frontline/Tank
>Utility
>Support
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>>587249709
It's more or less "how much damage should item such as intensified magazine or tesla bullets should contribute to be considered usable"
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>>587250543
I look like this
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>>587250534
This is the hitbox that lets you heavy melee the stage 2 patron from the ground
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>>587250315
Her ult turns her into a melee creep
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>>587250605
>Her ult turns her into a Cloud9
ftfy
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>>587246459
>>587246521
ah got it thanks, and here i was thinking of giving LOL another chance,lol
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>wraith not banned 2 times in a row
just fucking euthanize me man
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Here's your team's m1gger bro
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>>587250649
the EE ult...
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is spirit apollo shit now?
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>>587250821
Always was
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Hero for this feel?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWnaWpBCAC0
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>>587250878
sinclair
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>>587250821
Not really there's just no reason to run it over melee.
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>>587250993
melee is boring
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Drifter should have Bloodseekers' ult
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>>587251061
only if he gets thirst too
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>Mirage ults directly onto me while I'm farming jungle three times in a row
>Get suspicious and stand in a steam vent not moving for 50~ seconds
>He ults right onto me again
>Check his Steam account after
>Multiple VAC and gamebans
So does Valve just not give a fuck about cheaters in this game or what? Why do they even let VACbanned accounts continue to play more Valve games? "Yeah this nigger cheated in TF2 and got banned and in DOTA2 and got banned and in CSGO and got banned but I'm sure he'll be a good little gamer in Deadlock" Absolutely mental
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>>587248948
I think she's in a pretty good spot all things considered
The only change I'd like to see are her leeches either dealing bonus damage to or having an extended duration on haunts/creeps so she doesn't just have to heavy melee spam to clear things
>>587249414
Toxic bullets is pretty good only but only if you're against other low damage heroes like tanks or supports
It gives her some surprising bite that has taken many a player by surprise coupled with the leech damage
>tit.mag, qsm, heroic aura
Titanic Mag is the second built item for me, but I've never felt the need for QSM, and Heroic Aura feels more circumstantial
Titanic + Kinetic Dash solves most of your ammo problems if you're careful, and you can be far less careful once you get the other horses
The only downside is that you can get slot locked very easily, but Titanic + Kinetic is a must in my experience
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>50% chance of getting raped for 40 minutes
why do you guys play this
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>>587250780
Venator, the potencial Man
5p granade does nothing, not a real power spike
5p Shotgun is a meme
Trap is a meme, can be shot down
Ult is the best for cleanup, but every hero is good for cleanup
Give me 6v6
Give me Disruptors
Give me distracted enemies that I can flank with no flank abilities
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>>587251310
I prefer similar, titanic kinetic and swift striker for the 4.8k
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>>587250821
>1600 soul item deletes you from the game
always was
gunpollo is the new thing
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>>587251356
I come from cs/dota where the rape was even longer
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>>587251356
i have a humiliation fetish so even if i lose i get something
>40 minutes
honestly, i have come to like the 40 min matches as long as its not mindless grinding
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>>587249687
>position
Doesn't exist in Deadlock
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>>587250210
Never because that finngolian snownigger MikaelS1 decided to play her for about 5 days in ranked and has an above 50% winrate with her
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Woww I wish I learned Calico sooner. You get to sprint around the whole map vacuuming boxes and ganking people and just fly away if they try to fight back.
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>>587251416
built for brutal ryonasnuff sex
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>>587251718
She's really fun when you have teammates and are allowed to get fat, but the bad games feel REALLY fucking bad, like not even tickles tier bad.
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>>587251310

Heroic Aura is her best item hands down, it is super synergetic with her kit
>Attack speed makes her heal faster and gives her team increased dps to compensate for the fact that you can't attack
>Armor aura buffs the effective potency of your heals (as heals goes "beneath" the armor)
>Movement speed stops your fat chungus from getting caught.

Tit.mag might be replaceable with kinetic dash, but I think k-dash might low key be a trap item on her since having to spend stamina for ammo (and jumping towards the fight) makes you liable to get gone on. QSM is also maybe more exchangeable, but it's a good 1600 spirit item that solves ammo issues and gives you attack speed (so faster healing), so what other item in the spirit category is giving you more value?

Toxic bullet is actually just a trap item on her though. You have two abilitied that actively interfere with proccing on hit effects. You can go an entire fight without shooting an enemy a single time. You'd get more value out of Hunter's Aura unironically.
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>>587251435
You made me realize how I never play towards getting spikes
>Grit and resto for lane sustain
>Extended and charge for lane partner sustain
>Then build a core of trophy collector, extended mag, kinetic dash, and arcane surge
>After that I buy based on how the match is going
I also tend to get superior duration early enough because a ~10 second harrow ult can be devastating
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Who would you add to deadlock?
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>>587251905
Arguably it doesn’t matter on harrow because her base dps is shit but I’m autistic about breakpoints
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>>587252029
a wheelchair character who cannot go up stairs would be funny
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>>587252029
Him
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>>587252137
Its a shame that they are so against reusing characters. because adding Saxton Hale as the first true melee only hero would be peak and fit right in too.
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>team underperforming like hell and getting insanely behind in souls
>deviate from my build to buy some counter actives so my team doesn't get destroyed instantly every teamfight
>the 1/8/2 Billy starts seething at me with "you're trolling because you didn't even hit your vit 4.8k yet"
Yes you fucking retard, I didn't because I have to keep buying shit for you to not die, god this game frustrates me so fucking much.
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>>587251272
gaben has figured out that most players in every game are cattle who cant distinguish between cheaters, smurfs, matchmaking lottery winners, etc
theres no point devoting tons of devtime to the cat and mouse contest against cheat makers when most of the playerbase wont even notice the benefits
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>>587251880
>Heroic Aura is her best item hands down
I'll give it a shot but that's a really tough sell
Kinetic on its own is pretty good on her, but combined with Arcane Surge and Stamina Mastery, while being a bit slot prohibitive, gives you immense amounts of utility and survivability
>7 stamina
>42% increased stamina recovery
>Double air jumps and dashes
>Effectively infinite healing ammo, 25% fire rate, and 20 spirit power for your healing
Harrow simply explodes if directly engaged, and the best way to not be engaged is to not be where the danger is in the first place
Any fight you don't like you simply run away and reposition from
>Toxic bullet is actually just a trap item on her though
Gotta disagree there. I won't say it's a must get every match, but certain matches having that extra damage and healing reduction allows you to keep certain heroes in check
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>>587251718
Imo, she was a blast to play a while ago before deathballs became meta in mid-high MMR and before they made early matter even less.
Now she's more reliant on her team than she used to be, initiating fights more than assassinating people, and she gets scaled out really really bad, by minute 30 your only job is pushing waves and in teamfights, distracting the enemy team by pretending you can do a damn thing about their backline.
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>>587252475
>42% increased stamina recovery
there is no way the stamina items scale additively like that wtf is that true?
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>>587251356
Because you can also be the rapist and that part is fun
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>>587252617
>there is no way the stamina items scale additively like that wtf is that true?
I have zero idea how it actually stacks in game so I'm just assuming but wouldn't be surprised if it scales multiplicatively instead
However what I do know is that the buffs from Kinetic Dash and Arcane Surges' last for about the same amount of time as it takes for the 2 stamina you used to come back so with some care you can maintain them for as long as you need
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>>587248306
Silver's so ass
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>>587253049
Say that again!
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>>587251718
Drifter can do that too and he looks and sounds cool
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How often do you get MVP?
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>587252029
>587252086
>587252137
>587252330
>SAAARRR IM PLAY TF2 SAARR
What causes this?
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>>587252475

I mean, one immidiate thing you can get instead of Toxic is Decay. Same effect but always active irregardless of what you are doing. Only issue is slot effectiveness since you want so many active items on her.

>slot prohibitive
Yeah, though I agree you don't want to get caught, all of those stamina items are extremely slot prohibitive and you are building a bunch of situational stuff instead of building to deathball the enemy. You are spending 6400 souls on collectibg horses instead of building into game winning items.

I am a big hater of the dash items though. I'm not a fan of having to exchange my stamina for getting any effect, and I think they are only saved by the fact that they can make extra stamina a bit more slot effective.
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>>587251416
>>587251862
No joke the female heroes' critical damage portraits in this game are turning me into a ryonafag. Very much so for Mina and Silver but Holliday in particular makes my dick diamonds. The sideways glance, chin tucked in, the scratch on her cheek, the pleading look in her bruised eye. It screams of domestic abuse victim. Just fucking look at picrel
>Bad night where both of you argued and it devolved into a screaming match until she started putting on her cowgirl cosplay and saying she was leaving. And that pushed you over the edge so you grabbed her by her stupid scarf and smacked her over the head with a closed fist until she started crying and begged you to "stop, stop, you're hurting me" so you let her go. And now she's standing in the foyer (but her hand is no longer on the doorknob) and looking at you like picrel. And you feel blood flowing to your cock because you know she's wet now
I get similar vibes with Graves and Vindicta too, the mussed up hair and pleading "stop, stop, I'll stop arguing, just please don't hurt me anymore, okay?" looks on their faces. It's just incredible
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DON'T YOU GET IT? I CAN DIE
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>>587253313
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>>587253313
>DON'T YOU GET IT? I CAN'T BREATHE
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>dunning-krueger retard Drifter calling anyone else useless while doing among the lowest damage on the team, does nothing but bait the team and refuses to do anything but insist on trying to just dive the enemy supports just to die to said supports because unlike in literally every other game, supports are not economically starved walking gold bags just waiting to be ripped in half at a moment's notice
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>enemy has rejuvs
>lets go randomly fight 6v6 in the jungle!
Why can't people wait for them to commit to a push, wave clear and force them to engage/use rejuvs? That fight is happening regardless just do it when we have some mild advantage
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>pocket on the enemy team 3x in a row when im playing victor
wew lad
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>>587253213
His abilities don't seem nearly as fun or creative.
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has anyone here disabled voice chat by default, or do you just mute the really loud angry people when they come up
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>>587253564
>really loud angry people
is that an american thing
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>>587253564
I dont even know who's talking in VC their chat bubbles never appear below them
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>>587253681
>bringing up America unprompted
i wonder what continent this guy is from
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How the fuck does viktor reload his gun? He just flings it like someone trying flick water off their hands
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>>587253564
By default it’s on but i mute a lot of people based off the first few things they say into mic
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>>587253775
the most angry guy i saw on yuro servers was a guy demanding i call him a nigger in voice chat and not just typing it
maybe all the estrogen in the water makes people emotional over there?
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>>587253838
several reload animations are just banging the thing and unjamming it
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>>587253880
the estrogen is in the big macs, flouride is in the water you eurotrash retard
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>>587253304
Toxic is % max health whereas Decay is % current health and the whole point of taking it is to give you some combat presence, so the higher damage and more accessible application is preferred
>You are spending 6400 souls on collectibg horses instead of building into game winning items.
I'm of two minds about this
You can stop at just KD and AS and then focus on harder hitting items like Curse if you so desire. I know I sometimes don't take SM until later in the game, or sometimes not at all depending on what the match requires, but having 2 horses already does wonders for survivability, utility, and maneuverability
The other thing is that Harrow's core abilities are incredibly impactful already, so having the means to be where you're most effective is invaluable, and having multiple horses allows you to be where you need to be when you need to be there on top of all the other benefits they provide
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>>587253959
sorry, im not up to par with my american lore it seems!
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>apollo if on my team
>1-17-6
>apollo if on other team
>27-5-3
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Word on the street has it Nurse Harrow's decrepit hag womb is weak to energetic youthful shota sperm. Guaranteed !CRITICAL HIT!s and strips both her bullet and spirit resistances at once.
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>>587254040
and yet you're talking shit like you know anything about anything, shut the fuck up hans
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Mina, Rem, Silver and Drifter are hands down the character that brought the most new players, everyone else has been a dud.
Valve have to lock in for the next batch.
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troubadour
lenny
maggie
hank
mildred
ms. shelly
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>>587254108
Maggie is McGinnis' first name you moron
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>>587254097

>rat king
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NA will never win any esports again EU because EU is a nanny state and has millions of men who play video games 16 hours a day and don't need to get jobs
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Why are Russians so shit at the game? I thought jobless retards were supposed to be good
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>>587254097
You forgot Ivy
>>587254108
What did he mean by this
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>>587254196
...is a dud
>>587254441
I don't see her as much in fanart as the other four, but yeah she's up there, might even be the most popular base roster character with Haze.
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I finally unlocked ranked, except I don't even feel like playing these characters anymore
I think I'll unlock a few more, then when I'm bored with those come back to these ones, by which time I will have forgotten all about how to play them
Great system for ensuring character mastery
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>>587254665
join a loss discord group u can unlock new char in 3 hrs
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>>587248189
>>587211664
I am synthesizing connections within my mind palace
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>>587254665
maybe you shouldn't have picked some of the most boring characters in the game to play then retard
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>>587254097
started playing for venator and want to chokefuck mina
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>>587254665

I stick to the principle that I only play unlocked characters in ranked. When I wanna grind those characters I play ranked, otherwise I play standard.

Both modes have mmr, so if I wanna improve at the game I can play either of the modes and accomplish the same thing. Grinding ranked won't matter in 6 months since the ladder just resets anyhow.
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>>587254665
The first 200 hours don't matter. Go nuts man ranked isnt that big a deal.
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what's even drifter's wish in the ritual? true immortality?
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>>587254665
>by which time I will have forgotten all about how to play them
Ranked, especially at anything below Phantom (and sometimes even that) feels pretty much the same as standard, people just flame a lot more. As long as you don't die 10 times during lane just bee youself.
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>>587254970
for fun :)
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>>587254970
>what's even drifter's wish in the ritual?
"that was fun, let's do it again"
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>>587254970
he's evil so he's going to wish for a netflix deadlock anime
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I'm gonna rat
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I'm going to Rat!
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I'm gooning to Rat (King)!
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should heal and bane be put into two separate items?
or make it a 3200?
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>>587253997

I still think Toxic is a trap item. It's lower duration makes you even less likely to get value from it. 3200 for an item you maybe use is really suspect, that's souls that could have gone into an active item in the spirit category. As for more gun items, you got blood sacrifice that will give you a bit of survivability and stay relevant while you are healing. Harrow has so many options before Toxic Bullets, not to mention that in good toxic bullet games, someone else is probably already buying it anyhow.
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>>587255190
>netflix adapation
>archmother is just straight up debra wilson, not just her voice
>abrams is a black dude and bangs every female character that didn't get raceswapped
Drifter you scoundrel
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>>587254970
He's just there for a good time.
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Do you think Drifter cums blood? or Mina lactates blood?
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>>587254665
everything in this game matters. i was in low prio 14 years ago in dota 2, quit, and now i have horrible behavior score and am banned from ranked. valve will never lift punishments on your account
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Insect themed hero who has 4 stamina, can fly, can use vents but is bad in every other way
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This game desperately needs a forfeit feature. I'm stuck in a 35 minute game where one faggot is constantly running across the map and dying to the tower intentionally while two other guys flirt with a guy that is barely putting any effort into his girlvoice and talking about how he writes yaoi fanfiction and that's why he picked Paige. I am the only person positive on the team. There's literally no reason I should have to sit through the rest of this game.
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They buffed Divine Barrier but I still think it's very useless
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>>587255452
>"erhmmm what the frick? so you are like a giant rat or something??"
>"Seven is dangerous but does anyone else think he is sorta hot"
man i cant even make myself write Marvel netflix dialogue i dont know how these motherfuckers do that
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>>587255452
you reactionaries cannot help but fantasize about beebeesees unprompted, huh? I was referring to the boring dota anime, not whatever schizo shit you're mentally fapping to. holy idpol derangement
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>>587255630
We can't make a Kafka joke because the transforming hero trope is already taken by Silver
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>>587255710
I mean Diviner's Kevlar...
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>AOE nuke
>AOE nuke
>AOE nuke
This is balanced
>AOE nuke
>AOE nuke
>Lich Ult
>AOE nuke
>Dashes 6 times and leaves 3 more AOE nukes
nerf celeste
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>>587255729
DOTA anime was kino though. It's boring to you most likely because it didn't have nigger rap in it. Maybe Arcane is more your thing.
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>>587255758
>transforms into a melee creep
>still expected to have impact
silveresque...
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>>587255710

It's good if your hero likes to open with their ult since it gives a lot of spirit. Cosmetical's Mina build is a good use case for it. I also bet Infernus would be really good with it actually.
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>mina and rem on team
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>>587255758
>Gregor Samsa themed bug character
>can be the fan awaited wagie normal dude
>add a bit of The Fly homage there as well
>voicelines with other characters being confused because they see him as a normal guy unlike how he sees himself
>wish is to turn back into human
this shit writes itself
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>>587255729
That's literally what Netflix does with adaptions though retard
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>lose half hp to random aoe trash thrown around that wasn't even aimed at me
I hate this shit so much, and it's always a paige too.
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>>587256064
Paige is the random bullshit go character
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>>587256064
The idea that an AoE does less damage the further from the center is lost technology.
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>bebop hyperbeam, but it auto aims for you and you place it anywhere you want (6 charges)
lol
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>>587256064
Buy spirit shielding or spellbreaker
If there's a Paradox doing carbine bullshit, I WILL be rushing spellbreaker
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I think Spirit Burn is secretly the strongest, must build item in the game.
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>>587254139
Literally all fan headcanon, there's no evidence Maggie isn't a separate character
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>>587255854
>ohhh you don't worship Dota you can only be a stinky League baby
christ why are all dotards like this? i gave both shows a few episodes and they were both crap. please get standards
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>>587255787

It’s decent on rat king, silver, mirage
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>>587256325
DON'T look at McGinnis official backstory.
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>>587256246
>dies to a stiff breeze and is completely irrelevant
Just stop ignoring the turrets retard.
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>>587255758
Have it be some guy who rents his body as an apartment complex to various species of insects and parasites so that he can pay his own rent.
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>>587248794
I usually go for a walker whenever a rift spawns, because I know the enemy team will mindlessly go as 6 to take the rift.

Sometimes I get 2 walkers
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>>587256471
>Just go read her Fairfax employee records bro
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>>587255758
Like Mo or Vyper, just make him a big cockroach who is sentient for some reason and has a gun
For fun, the rest of the roster completely ignores this and treats him like a normal dude, it's like a fanmade mod reskin or something, everyone just goes "oh hey Kafka" "let's lane together" "Kafka has ult" and never ever make any references to him being a literal cockroach
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Do you think a character in a completely different artstyle could work or would that be too quirky?
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>>587256524
Maggie McGinnis is a genius and anyone who can spare the time to read her official Fairfax biography would be doing themselves a favor! She's a genius, plain and simple, but not the stuffy kind who writes books or ruminates on theories. No no! She hands her inventions right to you, happy to see them used, all at a reasonable price.
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>>587256246
The things you read on this general.
At this point Turret McGinnis is the weakest she's ever been, she cannot get any kills, only assisted suicides.
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When the fuck are they nerfing big boxes? People leaving lane to spend 3 minutes doing box routes while abandoning their lanes is getting too much for my taste
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>>587256693
Imo boxes should be deleted
There I said it
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>>587256670
redditnigger larp
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>>587256683
She is basically just a wall bot and pushing objectives with ult. The turrets at most keep a wave held because the trooper/obj damage, and exist for suppressor/slow. The heal kinda sucks, and maybe with all the new shit in the game we get the fire rate or scaling AOE back. The wall behind good is basically because it spawns 2 turrets free
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>>587256764
HOW DARE YOU
THEY ADD SOOOO MUCH DEPTH TO THE GAME
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>>587255758
>>587255934
>looks like a completely normal wagie
>transforms for a couple of seconds whenever he uses his abilities before his body fixes itself/readjusts
A bodyhorror hero would be pretty cool
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>>587256693
Who the hell is trading 3m of lane farm for 3m of boxes, the waves will be more. If anything just push boxes back 2 minutes but as-is it hardly matters.

Its like saying the apples should go because people get free heals for knowledge/movement gaps
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>>587248518
yes but even when people arent camping vents the secret shops are a death sentence especially if they're using """"mods"""" (cheats) that immediately tell them when someone has bought an item so they know to check there

haze sees you buy an item and sprints at 20m/s in invisibility to the shop to catch you before you leave, fucking retarded game
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>>587249430
I just got calibrated for the first time. I was playing a year ago before the season stuff and took a long break. I was Ritualist 1 before the reset I think.

I calibrated to frog/sentinel/bronze 2 yesterday. Which is weird, because I did not have even 1 game in those 10 calibration games where a single person in the lobby was above iron. Most games were a mix of brick and stone. And I lost 8/10 games.

It just seems so strange. Either I'm placed way too high now, or those 10 games were forced into shitter ranks for no reason.
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>>587248965
rat king is fine

violet is fine now too

it's true the other 4 are basically game terrorist though. At least danny is fun to play so he can be excused
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>>587256912
Big boxes have shifted the dynamic to more box favored, you can nearly match lane souls with certain rotations
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>>587256805
Uh oh. Is someone on a loss streak? Have you considered appropriately counterbuying your enemies? For example, if they're beating you on the ground, you could take to the air with the Chimera Mk1!
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>>587249604
>>587250368
My problem with harrow is how she heals OUTSIDE of combat. It's counterable when youre actually in 6v6 because it's hectic she can miss shots and the target can be antihealed. But in the "neutral" part of the game they can take 95% of their hp bar and run to a cuck corner for harrow to full heal even more efficiently as they stand still due to headshot multiplication. It's giving their entire team a 5x better fortitude that's instant. How does the enemy team beat that unless they're already winning? You cant. So if harrow's team ends up with a decent lead the game is immediately over cause they will never die.
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>>587256764
>>587256847
Boxes are fun when theyre in dangerous areas like clock tower or under neath mid. They're not fun when you have to do movement troon routes to get optimal money 3 minutes into the game.
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>>587249430
There is nothing lowkey about it. You should always be using rejuv to farm enemy jungle and widen the soul gap
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>>587249604
>/dlg/ with Paige: .........
We're clearly not lurking the same general
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>>587257220
>>587249430
You should farm for half the duration then try to force a fight. Ending the game before retards fuck it up by feeding with a 90s timer is optimal
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>>587255023
People are way more likely to use microphones and try for actual teamplay in ranked, which makes it much more fun for me, because I'm shit at the mechanics but good at herding cats
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NEVER SHOW WINRATE, NO MATTER THE ODDS
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>>587257121

So Harrow gives everyone else a free fortitude (3200x5=16000). That's not such a big deal, Holliday gives everyone a free Majestic Leap (3200x6=19200)
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>>587253564
Having it off by default is basically griefing, but obviously mute anyone who is annoying to prevent tilting.

So many russians will just make animal noises the second the game starts, so it's easy to know who to mute.
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>>587257442
Including the enemies so it's 0 value added actually
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>>587256832
Do you get the money from troopers if you leave a lane with turrets to handle things?
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>Wraith says she wants to wish for "money" to keep it simple so theres no loopholes
>The Patron gives her 50 million 2008 Zimbabwe dollars
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Does anyone buy mystic slow without the intent to get lightning scroll? It seems like maybe the worst ingredient item aside from Improved Spirit
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>>587257014
>violet is fine now too
No, that's a reddit lie. That's the same lying shit that caused Silver to be unplayable for months. She is overnerfed and can't compete now. She needs buffs. She has the lowest win rate and the lowest pick rate pick rate not only among all new heroes, but overall. She's D tier second only Mirage. Even Sinclair has higher win rate. She is not fine.
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How would you make Venator fun again, hard mode: make an 6400 core item that would work for him
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>>587256683
>the weakest it's ever been
>90% of the game's lifespan each turret has had the willpower of mecha godzilla
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>>587257535
completely rework his shitty ass placeholder trap ability that does nothing
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>>587257694
Remove Warden's cage and give it to Him
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>>587257527
85% winrate with me, she's fine sorry anon
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>>587257671
Only in braindead bricklo
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>laning vs apollo + mina
just blow my shit smoothe off man fuck this
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>>587257694
Not every ability needs to be giga busted man. All they really need to do is make it less visible, like make the purple circle black instead
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>>587257825
bricks own you
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>>587257853
In actual human elos her turrets don't do shit till 60k souls and die instantly to literally anything, you're just ass at this game.
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>entire 30 minute game is decided by how braindead my lane partner is
nah im not playing this any more until i feel like finding a duo or they fix how you have zero agency as a solo
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>>587257525
i buy it together with Stalker and Weighted Shots to slowmax
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>>587257525
Any character with spammable spirit damage gets a lot of use from Mystic Slow's stats and effects. I think lightning scroll is more of a gimmick item then Mystic Slow, you're paying 4800 extra for an awkward stun and some damage that is tied to the CD of an ult. Scroll also doesn't upgrade any of Mystic Slow's stats, which kind of sucks for a 4800 addon.
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>>587257535
infinite ammo for 6.4k
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>>587257527
You're a total smoothbrain if you're unable to look past winrates.
She was insanely overtuned and a bunch of shitters used her to get an easy +6 ranks over the course of a couple weeks.
Now she's more reasonable and all the shitters coasting off her are losing all their games because they are shit and she's not an autowin anymore.

This is blindingly obvious by the fact that you only ever see two versions of her in ranked - people who use her entire kit, including slide and painting obstacles, and go 17/3 - and people who only know how to snipe with living ink and run after you with still life and go 0/12.

As soon as the latter players go back to playing their normal heroes instead of trying to abuse le broken new hero, her winrate will stabilize to above 50.
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>>587257525
mystic slow is good on Victor and McGinnis, and they can both benefit from Lightning Scroll
It is a weird as fuck ingredient, I agree. The two items have nothing to do with each other, and I would like 6400 version of mystic slow instead that disables dashing or something.
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>>587258198
Midwit coded post
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>>587258336
Nice argument retard
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>>587257525
I buy it on wivy and only turn it into lightning scroll if game goes late
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>>587257803
Got any way to prove it? Post your match history
>>587258198
>She was insanely overtuned and a bunch of shitters used her to get an easy +6 ranks over the course of a couple weeks.
Sorry anon, you probably didn't notice but I was talking about Violet and not Baba.
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>>587258198
Well, at least you've moved on from saying this about Silver instead
You haven't fixed the thought process, but at least you've found a new target
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>>587258498
There's more than 1 person in this general anon. I've never complained about Silver anon, I wasn't playing during the time when she was apparently good.

>>587258470
Well it's also true for Baba, arguably moreso.
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>>587251416
That's kinda hot...
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>>587258628
>the time when she was apparently good
She was good for like one week
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>>587258628
>Well it's also true for Baba, arguably moreso.
Baba was barely touched by the nerfs, the change list looks like she was gutted when in fact she barely felt it and still the best hero in the game. And basically a guaranteed win because she also scales better into the late game.
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Yoshi… the item update… ligthning scroll… spirit slopperino… help
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my new rule of thumb is to never pick heroes below 50% winrate
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>>587258146
Please no
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>>587258320
>victor
>lightning scroll
lil nigga in big green 3 rank
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>>587257535
Gutshot now has charges
Ira Domini now has charges
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>>587258846
Can we see win rates filtered by rank anywhere?

>>587258903
It's in the public build I've been using this patch, but I guess it's very niche. Idc, it makes his ult into even more of a teamfight autowin.

Again, mystic slow is great on him for running people down and lightning scroll is a weird, awkward upgrade to that.
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Couldn't sleep properly because I kept dreaming of Silver or some other shit.
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>>587259207
Yeh, all the stat websites have rank filtering,
statlocker will even draw you a pretty graph.
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>>587259207
Yes you can see them on statlocker
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Start buying mystic reverb and putting it on Ivy's 1
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How do people even enjoy playing Calico? Her voice lines and general tone of voice are just obnoxious to listen to.
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>>587259358
did you cream her cookie in your dream
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I bought this!
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>>587259604
Check out what Rem bought!
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>>587258903
>big green 3 rank
No idea what the fuck this is supposed to mean
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>get a sick 1v2 outplay
>we lose
>get a sick 1v2 outplay
>game is cancelled because of a leaver
>get a sick enemy team wipe
>we lose anyway
AWOOOOOOOOOO
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>>587259358
>this is a bad thing for some reason
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>>587258846
Not only is this scrubby you are also miserable for doing it. You will never improve.
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>>587259457
neat, thanks dude
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>>587259646
i fucking love buff women but i hate how a lot of artists just draw them with 0.001% body fat (tits not included)
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>>587259874
you are a homosexual
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>>587254759
One of the few good things we could meme into the game is Maid Silver
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Why do most solomon builds not have you build duration early? Imbuning duration on rooks let you rootlock people a lot easier in a lot more locations on the map
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>>587257476

Actually, when enemies use it, it's a free vortex web so then it is (6400x6) value
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>>587259954
Duration has been terminally underrated for most of the games life
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How have your ranked games been with the new season
I'm in phantom and its almost comical at how every game is decided by who has the wraith/baba/celeste on their team (mostly just wraith since she's giga popular)
For once I unironically think silver is in a decent state, she's way more consistent for me than Billy. Sure your human form is the tickle monster but at least you can shit out damage in wolf or be big enough threat to make space for your team
With billy, you're just a bullet sponge, only thing going for you is the HP. Shit just sucks to play coming from a guy who has 250+ games on him.
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>>587259874
Being attracted to a woman with washboard abs as a hetero guy is so fucking weird to me.

>I love women, but only when they look like men!
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>>587260015
look anon I know you don't critically examine the world around you, but try to understand that most men don't have washboard abs, and that muscle definition is not a gendered thing no matter how warped your pop-culture addled brain may think that.
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>>587259923
*Caveman
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>>587260184
Apollo is so lucky
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>>587259358
The other day I dreamt that I was on a date with Holliday
I love those country accent american girls I wish I would snag one in reality...
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Emotionless nursing handjob from Harrow.
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>>587260328
okay https://x.com/matty_vd/status/2112650068516036652
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>>587248189
They should give her short hair.
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>>587260012
I'm a shitter, but I think it'll always be hard to balance characters across different levels of play.
I que with different friends who are both high above and way below me in ranks so I get to play in very varied skill levels and it's pure whiplash.

>que with bricklow friend
>I can just pick Yamato or Abrams and go full melee build because nobody ever fucking parries except in total panic. The entire game is just me running at anyone who doesn't have easy escape abilities and I never get punished.

>que with Ritualist friend
>the Billy on our team get's parried literally every single time he melees and is reduced to being a momentary distraction for the rest of us to capitalize on.

I guess Ritualist is kind of that magic middle ground where players are good enough to fuck over Billy, but Billy still hasn't figured out how to deal with it, or stop playing Billy.
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Venator sitting his sweaty hairy ass on my face.
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Is there any reason to buy Extra Regen now that it doesn't upgrade into Healing Booster? Just grab some bats for healing
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>>587260464
What is it about good looking women somehow looking even better with short hair.
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>>587258018
The latter will never happen considering the direction Dota went with the numerous BKB nerfs so that people can just counterbuy you into the fucking ground. It's already happening in this game too. Unstoppable lasts 5.5 seconds and has a 60 second cooldown and if you have to spend 3 slots for Unstoppable, Dispel Magic AND Indomitable you're gonna fucking lose anyway.
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>>587243459
Dispel magic keeps Mirage honest.
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>>587260015
I like fit girls that don't have steroids tier abs but just a toned midsection
I know for sure that these 2 have the best tummies in the game, followed by Silver, any of the canonically physically fit female characters really
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>>587260541
nope, extra regen overtook tankbuster as the worst item in the game
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>>587260760
I'm confident that it's just her jacket being puffy but that Paradox is fucking built
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>>587256985
post this on forums
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>>587260849
this anon thinks devs read the forums outside of day 1 bug reports when a new patch drops
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>>587260792
>tankbuster is bad
qrd?
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>>587255876
>Victor (me) and Rem on the team
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If I play super aoe hero like dynamo or Abrams, should I unironically deathball since I don't need farm as much
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>>587260950
I'm sure they do but they only monitor a select few topics
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>>587257353
>People are way more likely to use microphones and try for actual teamplay in ranked, which makes it much more fun for me, because I'm shit at the mechanics but good at herding cats
Try doorman
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official /dlg/ hero honesty tier list:

honest:
Silver
Venator
Baba
Billy
Harrow
Haze
Paradox
Abrams
Lash
Ivy
Warden

dishonest:
everyone else
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RUN FOR YOUR YICKADEE LIVES
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>>587261228
Ivy lost honesty privelege when capacitor dropped
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>>587260397
>>587260328
How old is nurse harrow? like 40s milf or full on early 60s gilf?
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>>587261636
On the brink of Menopause
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>>587258845
Lightning Scroll isn't even good outside of dedicated ultimate heroes. It just exists as Spirit spike for everyone else as they proc it with Tesla or their built in Spirit on-hit effects.
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>>587260849
What forums?
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Anyone else only have FPS issues when McGinnis has a million turrets on the map?
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>>587260687
being spammed with CC is the least problematic part of agency imo, the real problem is how every objective requires you to have multiple teammates playing correctly at all places on the map you need someone to stop the ratting or do the ratting, you need your tank to not be a pussy and initiate, you need your carry to not feed 2k soul bags from jungling all game

so much shit has to go right and one retard can ruin the game
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>>587261228
i liked it when the black guy stole his hat
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>>587261031
I'm scared to. He seems really finicky.

Holiday is right around where my comfort level is at. I build her long range so I can contribute to fights despite my bad movement, and her ultimate is a good playmaker.

>enemy wraith pushing tier 3's alone
>2 brainless retards are sitting in our base watching her do it because she outranges them and they don't know what to do.
>I jump in from the side, lasso her and run towards base while screaming "KILL THIS NIGGER KILL THIS NIGGER KILL THIS NIGGER"
>they actually kill this nigger
>we get to take midboss without Wraith destroying our base because we looked away for 10 seconds.
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>>587261824
No issues with McGinnis. I play her a lot and never saw a correlation. The main sinners are Celeste (maybe not in the current patch) and Violet. Rat king was a huge problem until this patch too.

Generally I'm not seeing nearly as many performance issues since halloween ended
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>>587261824
My FPS gets cut in half only when I walk through doorman doors for some reason
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>teammate that's feeding the enemy won't stop taking all of our sinners
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who else practice movement here
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>>587262073

>my mechanics are bad
>picks one of the most mechanically intensive heroed in the game

Brother, if you are genuinly worried about your mechanical skill, Abrams and Rat King are right there.
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>>587262474
it's too boring to tryhard that much. I remember being in my 20's doing aimlabs and trying to get gud at apex legends or whatever stupid shit I was playing then. Now I'm 34 and I just can't be arsed. I mosly play with friends who are even worse at the game than I am and I'm just going to focus on having fun. I already did the super sweaty thing back when I was 5k in dota 2 in like 2013, but I played 4 hours or more daily back then
(5k wasn't even that impressive, it was like top 1% maybe)
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>>587262661
I like Abrams too, but I think you're overestimating Holidays' skill floor. Barrel is a braindead skill, zoom in and do headshots is an absolutely braindead playstyle. I'll freely admit I probably don't get the most use out of her bouncepads though, I just use them mindlessly anytime I need to chase or escape.
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Been spamming ranked games and every single loss is because wraith is on the enemy team
How the fuck has this shit not been hotfixed into ground, is one of the devs a wraith main or something and just wants his pet hero to be game warping OP
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>>587263154
LIFTING!
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>>587249604
Don't know what the problem with Rem is, but I agree fuck Paige. Playing against her is so annoying
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>>587262474
>learning quirks and bugs of Valve's physics engine
Seems like a waste of time desu
On Silver too, she can't slide for shit anyway.
>>587262874
>Now I'm 34 and I just can't be arsed.
Based, that's how it goes. Over time I stopped caring about winning or losing even, just playing to have fun, not worth getting angry over something I play on and off anyway.
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i wont lie it completely destroys any motivation to play the game when every single loss is because i got a retard going 0/9 on my team making it so we are practically playing 5vs7.
just that moment of having a good lane phase with a few kills, pressing Tab and seeing your teammates feeding 7 kills to the enemy wraith on the other side of the map before bridge buffs even spawned. and that happening for most of the games.
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>>587263154
Her winrate is 50-52 across all ranks.
I dislike playing against her too, admittedly, but I lose way more games to Graves
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>>587256653
If it's a toon come to life or some shit like that it's ass. If it were like a virtruvian man made to resemble sketch work then that's ok.
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>>587263474
>just playing to have fun, not worth getting angry over something I play on and off anyway.
exactly. I've always had pretty good mental game, not prone to tilting and in dota I was always the guy just trying to talk down the ragers, but it feels even more pronounced now.

What gets me is the people who have a microphone, but decide not to use it unless they're flaming their teammates. They'll dive with no pings or communication and get themselves killed because their lane partner is in shop and only then will they turn voice on so they can CYKA BLYAT into everyone's ears
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>>587248518
>up 10k on the poor fire nigga
I'd like to see this actually work while you're even
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>>587248980
>capacitor
Isn't that a normal item given Haze is an on-hit merchant?
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>>587264098
yeah it is, it fell out of favour for a while.
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So many uncs in here
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Greater Expansion is almost never a not good buy right? I'm noticing it's ubiquitously useful for both fighting and farming/clearing.
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>>587263474
>On Silver too, she can't slide for shit anyway.
what's wrong with silvers slide
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>>587263995
>Oh yeah? I b-bet you couldn't gank a squishy if you were equally strong!
You understand that some assassins are supposed to hunt easy targets right anon? Why did you feel the need to protect Infernus' honor here?
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>>587248518
Shadow Weave builds up now, so you can't activate it and ambush straight away if you want all the bonuses. You need to activate it beforehand
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>>587263472
If you drew this, good on you anon
Top effort
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>Eat shit and feed all match
>Rush Refresher
>Hit one(1) five man ult
>Follow up with one(1) four man ult
>Win teamfight win rejuv win game
Who was I?

Answer: L a s h
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>>587264362
I probably wouldn't get it on Venator
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Rework Geist into health scaler
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>were pushing hero remodels constantly every 2-3 months while still doing regular updates
>suddenly stop
>"oh actually we are keeping the remodels for last its not a priority"
what happened
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>>587264536
Your Ballistic Expansion?
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>>587264364
She's too slow to get good range on it and she doesn't build anything to extend her sliding like Haze, for example.
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>>587264362
I find it to be a bit overkill in a lot of situations
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>>587264598
People like the models a bit too much so it's not a big deal if they're unfinished
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>>587257527
i don't want her to be good :3
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>>587264536
you will buy it on venator once yoshit enables a spirit venator trap-only build
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>90% of all nurse harrow art is lesbian shit
maaaaaaan...
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>>587264443
why the fuck did they change shadow weave like that anyways? item was mid and barely anyone ever used it already
they also raped its melee usefulness for no reason
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>>587264598
They realized it's more important for new heroes to have finished art after the 4 hero update flopped and the 6 hero update won bigly.
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>>587264778
it does the same melee damage when fully charged
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>>587264602
So you build Greater Expansion AND Ballistic Expansion? That seems like kind of a big investment

>whiff grenade
>6400 souls wasted

I'm not good at Venator so I might not be seeing the big picture here, but I'd rather just get gun items for those souls.
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>>587264514
No, unfortunately I suck at drawing. Reposting from another anon because I really like it.
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>>587264819
Vyper and Sinclair are fan favorites tho
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>>587264598
Character models and menu art are low level stuff. They're working on the big stuff like bosses and map objectives.
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>>587264778
anon, +50% bonus weapon damage is the same thing as +25% bonus melee damage
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>>587264910
Glad you did then, cause I didn't see it when it was first posted
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>>587264729
Sinclair and Gary Talon especially
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>>587264845
>>587264971
huh i swear it gave 35% melee not 25%
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>>587248518
>30 minutes in
>almost 30k souls lead
>lanes aren't pushed
>not even a single lane done
>some faggot skin mod
>this skyrim-ass stealth play works

holy self report, not sure if that's Brick or Stone but you're an absolute shitter
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fuck gunslop and fuck this game
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>>587251356
Could be because I'm bricklow but most of my games are pretty close.
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>>587264645
She has pretty average movespeed, and even if she was particularly slow it would only make sliding better because more time sliding is less time walking around with slow MS.
Point 2 is meaningless, most of the cast doesn't build for slide distance, that doesn't make sliding bad.
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>>587264819
>>587264598
>Silver is "le new hero"
>reuses animations of Seven and Driftuh
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>>587265272
useless fat stupid MUTT
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>>587265236
>most of the cast doesn't build for slide distance, that doesn't make sliding bad.
Does, actually, hence no one below Eternus bothers learning it and only uses for vaulting and ramps.
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>>587265191
>camping the secret shop while you see the plaza being cleared
>skyrim-ass stealth play
this works all the way up to phantom
stone players wouldn't even go to the secret shop to clear their haunted souls
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Flopping tranny deadcock.
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>>587265191
>retard who would never in a million years contribute gameplay or anything else to the thread has an irrelevant opinion
Great post faggot
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>>587265272
Please understand our animator only wants to work on zesty niggas, silver was a marketing mandate.
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>>587265432
heh like your mom's
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>>587255023
>As long as you don't die 10 times during lane
This is better than dying 10 times after lane
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>>587251356
This game is the most throwy, elastic bullshit Moba I've ever seen. Half the games the clearly winning team fuck up a midboss fight or do a deathball push into base without rejuve and throw their entire advantage away. Almost any game is winnable
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it's official
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>>587265987
Go back eceleb shilling troon
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>>587265472
take that rank of yours and tie it around your ankles, then you jump into a lake ;)
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>>587265987
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>>587264442
Retardbro, the point is that there's no reason to showcase a webm of you killing a nigga you're 10k up on
Posting webms should be for cool plays aka beating someone whos above you or something, not beating up kids
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What is the point of this item?
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what is the point of mystic reverb now that Leech also gives +30% spirit lifesteal?
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>>587265272
>her one new animation was given to driftah
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>>587266193
they wanted to add daedalus from dota 2 but forgot to make the weapons items in this game not suck
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Why do I get hit by riptose if I didn't do any damage to Apollo instead it was a team mate??? Man that ability fucking sucks, just push it in bro
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>>587266043
Mikaels is /our guy/ tho
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>>587266193
To turn Holliday from ass fucker to the ass and mouth fucker
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after watching for 30 seconds this mikaelS guy is clearly hacking. even when he misses every shot his mouse movements are insanely inorganic. this can't be a real player. i've never seen a player move their mouse like this in any game, not a random player, not a single streamer, youtuber, not a single pro in any shooter game. his mouse movements are weird.
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>want to play
>just woke up so I'd be going full autopilot
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>>587266193
it's like the best weapon dmg item in the entire game
and it's also a plated counter
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>>587266191
Your post is still up, so I can see that wasn't your point. You could have said something to the tune of "why did you bother uploading a bricklo clip" if you just wanted to be a miserable cunt and spend your time gatekeeping /dlg/ of all things
Amazing use of your time btw
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>>587265987
We knew this already, Yoshi designated her a marksman in the api
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am I trippin or Harrow has a potential to be a M1gger? shooting with her is weirdly fun and if you shoot a guy who has a leech on they will just melt
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>>587266312
just dispel it and parry him?
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>>587266240
geist bomb, graves ult, power slash, vexing bolt, talon arrow, carbine, pain battery, rend, consecrating grenade
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Unbind your parry key
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>>587266312
dispel magic is a must buy every game
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>>587266537
>and it's also a plated counter
How do they interact?
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Do you think valve will BLEACH gt like the leaks have shown or will we get an indian to match our cowboy?
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>>587266809
>game losing
>game losing
>outclassed by melee build
>ok
>ok
>ok
>game losing
>game losing
>game losing
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>>587266930
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>>587266193
i always felt like it was supposed to be a boost to flat weapon damage increases (like lash's 2 buff or fixation) because i remember reading somewhere that the lucky shot buff applies after every other buff but i don't remember if that's still true
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>>587266240
it's always been a mediocre item and I refuse to build it even on builds where it's supposedly "good"
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>enemy team always 3-4 man deathballing for me
>somehow my team can't do anything
Some games aren't meant to be won
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Silver is a joke character for 99% of the playerbase
buff her
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>>587266591
nta but I'm just saying clips like that are less impressive when you're effectively max level versus a level 11 feeder. Not saying you can't post, but I'd like to see an even clip
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I'm starting to like Venator's traps...
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>>587267030
Huh. They should put that in the item description.
So that lowers the effectiveness of Plated Armor by 25%. Not bad.
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>>587267359
they feel good the one time per 60 minute match that you catch someone
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>>587267510
yeah but i mean why lower it by 25% when you can lower it by 60% with APR
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>>587266682
You need a fuck ton of stacks but it’s theoretically possible
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>>587267632
because APR is a throw pick unless you have 4 gun heroes and the enemy is hitting 50% bullet resist with 3 plated armors
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>>587266682
theoretically yes but every time I see someone try it they do no damage and also do no healing because they were trying to do damage. if you're a top 1% aim god you can make it work but if you're not you're going to be useless and your team will hate you
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>>587267631
They should probably just be invisible. They're pretty nice to help escape or block off chokes but they're probably too easy to play around past my brick games.
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>>587266882
Literally what was the apollo's plan
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i have been actually enjoying street brawl more than regular play recently
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>>587267793
Plan?
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imagine Silver taking your whole length in her muzzle and working that wonderful dog tongue all over your cock
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>>587267793
kill
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What's the point of calling them placement matches if they just place you based on what your hidden standard MMR is and aren't based on performance?
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>>587267778
guaranteed rejuv/victor counter at every rank
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>>587267793
>good ol' riposte, wins every time
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>Rem on our team steals all our sinners, goes pillow build and dies on repeat in the late game with a single active item
This new season wrecked my mental to high hell, everytime its something like
>Rem pillow or spirit geist player on your team
>Wraith/Celeste duo on the enemy team
Being a trve solo que warrior is hell on earth in phantom
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>>587268054
Sounds fair to me. Most M1 dudes get to do something illegal.
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>>587264731
Well that's to bad, her buffs are inevitable
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>>587267963
It's all weird psychological player retention bullshit anon.
The rank resets at the end of seasons are also completely fake (and fucking annoying), and just exist to trick retarded kids who believe in elo hell into the "this time I'll be placed in the rank I deserve" mindset.

Look at Warcraft 3 on battlenet for a game where the elo resets are actually real, because Blizzard is staffed by idiots. It's a total shitshow at the start of every season, where every good player has to play 15 boring autowin games before they can get back to real matches, and all bad players have to suffer through a bunch of stomps.
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>>587267827
Street Brawl is ARAM of Deadlock. Made specifically for Americans, women, and other people who lack mental capacity for macro.
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>>587267963
They're only meaningful for outliers, if you have a suspected smurf stomp their placements they'll get kicked up much higher while some 30% WR shield ghoul will fall further.
If you already have fairly normal performance metrics they're basically cosmetic.
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>>587268481
That's just normal Rem activity
7 out of 10 times when you see a Rem it's an elo terrorist
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>>587266809
>>587267027
i like it on danny dive but it's probably way more of a funny item than a legitimately good item in that regard
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>>587267157
It is calculated separately so when you already have +150% weapon damage its basically +75%
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>>587266934
Keep the haircut and make his features more maculine (he looks way too soft and pudgy). Completely change his outfit, arm, bow and animations.
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Today, I face against the mighty
And make them kneel.
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>remove the hot women
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>>587269709
>he looks way too soft and pudgy
he's old, his face is masculine just haggard.
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>>587270090
I never want to meet the kind of man who thinks graves and vindicta are attractive
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>>587269931
>Fine as is
>Throwpick Silver
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>>587270275
a straight one?
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>>587266934
come to think of it there is literally nothing in GTs lore about him being an alcoholic or owning a casino
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>>587269931
Violet's ult does nothing after the nerfs
She basically has no ult.
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>>587269931
What makes Venetor and Infernus broken?
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>>587245743
>>587247440
Oops I posted in the old thread but I installed last week and there's one of you bitching in every match, and honestly even with my limited knowledge I can tell that most of you were retarded.

>Abrahms on our team was pretty fed went down the middle of blue lane where three people were >Graves was following behind
>me Ivy was following behind
>They started focusing graves from a range before she was even close to the Abrahms
>She's almost dead
>I ult to bring her back to base real quick
>Abrahms died
>Graves thanks me
>Abrahms crashes out
>"WUH WHY DIDN'T WE PUSH THATT!! I'M SO OP WE CAN KILL THEM! THIS TEAM SUCKS!! YOU'RE UNCARRYABLE."
I think he believes everyone has a "not die" button like him.
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>>587270513
That's problematic
She needs a new non-aoeslop ult
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>>587270275
You're gay
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>>587270639
too strong
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>>587266591
blud really thought he was hot shit killing a dude 10k souls below him
prolly all giddy going OMG CLIP THAT CLIP THAT when he did it too
starts broiling when made fun of
passive aggressive sissy with his "a-a-a-amazing use of your time btw..." can't even call someone a nigger like a real person
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Are we still pretending character winrates means anything outside of extreme deviation?
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>>587270660
Realistically what could they do?
If they make it so she can draw the path for the ult people will complain.
If they keep tweaking numbers people will complain
If they come up with something new and cool people will complain and the new ult will be nerfed and will be useless again
The real problem here is reactionary nerfs based on nothing but people that don't even play the character complaining
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>>587270957
"Are we still pretending we can use this thing for evidence against characters other than the ones I don't like?"
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>>587269931
>problematic
faggot
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Should they just scrap the shop entirely at this point and start over
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>>587270991
You're right
let's just leave her ult weak
not every character needs a strong ult
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>>587270957
Win rate alone doesn't mean much. Win rate + pick rate + ban rate? Now that's a tangible telemetry
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>enemy Wraith and Haze do nothing but run non-stop any time they're remotely in danger
>their stats are padded and they are absolutely worthless because they actively refuse to commit to anything
>me, Rat King and Ivy just run them down every single fight-- with the occasionally good ult from Lash-- and once they bail (because we know they absolutely will not pop their head out at all without their free escape off cooldown because they are the absolute biggest pussies on the planet) we just turn back around and kill the rest of their team and rape their base for a clean sweep into a win
People who play like this need to be castrated IRL. I don't care what team they're on. Biggest fucking rat-nigger cowards to ever fucking exist just so they can piss and whine about 'no team' while playing with the most cowardly builds I have ever fucking seen like Dispel Magic AND Cheat Death in the same build on Wraith while doing nothing but spamming cards and otherwise tickling people with her bullets. 78k souls and 54k damage for what? Your team didn't even outright feed, you played like a bitch that didn't have the capacity to actually carry the game and lost for it.

What drives people to fucking play like this?
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>>587270957
Wraith should have a 60%+ winrate but yeah its generally a non-factor. For example if a hero has a high playrate then its less relevant since you have every boosted retard and their dog playing them
At least with a 10-20% pickrate you can assume its mostly one tricks or specialists. If a specialist can't perform well then something has gone wrong
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>>587270275
>conventionally attractive girl
>EWW GROSS
what do you like then?
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Did you know Violet can draw solid blocks of paint? What's the point? Idk
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>>587268847
>while some 30% WR shield ghoul will fall further
explain me then >>587256985
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>>587271192
Actual hot chicks like silver or geist
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>Hey, playing Deadlock?
>Yeah, this match is almost over.
>Cool, put a stream up.
>Uh, oops, my game crashed.

Is this you?
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>>587269475
wait what?
It's double damage calculated AFTER all your gun damage buffs?
Okay it's actually decent then. I was going to ask if it wasn't just flat out worse than glass cannon, but it's actually good when you're already stacked.

Man I wish they would fix the item descriptions so people didn't have to read wikis for this bullshit
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>>587271119
That's quite a projection on your part.
I'm just saying that if a character has 40-60% winrate idc, it doesn't mean shit.
But if one day a character comes in with 90%, i'd say the numbers are unusual enough to infer there's also something unusual about that character.
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>>587271192
conventionally attractive canine girls (not anthro) are better
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>>587256985
you are the person throwing my games
thanks
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>>587260328
10 hours Nurse Harrow ASMR with dirty talk and blowjob sounds.
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Can't make a team more cancerous than this.
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>>587271640
they could have a wraith and baba
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>>587271213
>What's the point? Idk
the easiest means of freezing trooper waves
blocking small doorways mid-escape to slow down anyone chasing you
blocking LoS abilities
you can chain wall jumps off it if you're autistic
drawing dicks in the sky after dropping patron
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How do they balance baba without making her weak? Is it really just to do with spirit damage nerfing? What if she got a bullet+damage resist buff so she could get in there with the melee and not melt, but not nerf everyone's damage? I really like the feel of her kit.
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If we were to remove the retarded Rem players (team sinner stealer, bag thrower etc) would his winrate be better or is he simply an useless character?
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>>587269931
What's wrong with Haze and Ratking ult? At least you can dodge them.

Lash is pretty fucking annoying. Counterspell really is the mandatory bkb tax of deadlock because of shit like that
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>>587271640
Replace Mina with Baba. Replace Bebop with Wraith. Instantly twice as cancerous. Bebop is a non-factor.
>goes bomb
>just buy Dispel Magic
>specs into beam
>just buy Knockdown
And Baba is just more AIDS than Mina will ever be.
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Deadlock should not have been a shooterslop game.
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>>587271150
She basically already has only one ability which is solid.
Her build variety also sucks ass.
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>>587269931
upside down list kill yourself nigga
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>>587271774
You wouldn't say "a useless" because the word useless starts with a Y sound. It's pronounced you-sless.
The usage of the word an is determined by the vowel sound, not the spelling of the word.
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>>587271640
I definitely can, not enough AoE slop or retarded characters.
Replace Mina and Paige, by Wraith/Seven/Harrow/Lash/Baba, characters that autowins brool.
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>>587270894
I'm not the guy who posted the clip you fucking retard.
Do you have 0 reading comprehension?
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>>587271221
I'm talking about pre-placement performance, if someone was significantly over or underperforming their rank BEFORE their placements then they'd be moved further.
My best guess for your problem is the algo struggles to handle returning, rank-decayed players and it spazzed out and put you out of your depth.
Sucks but doesn't have much to do with >>587267963
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>>587271921
*You wouldn't say "an useless"
See, it even autocorrected for me
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>>587271640
Needs one more new character
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>>587271610
Just one voiceline of Nurse Harrow saying "good boy" in any context would fix me.
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>>587271921
Ok but answer the question
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>>587271774
As a Rem who only takes enemy sinners and avoids moving above ground whenever I am on the enemy side of the map (meaning no bag throws) I can tell you with certainty it would only go up a few percent. You'd still get retards going pillow build just to feed even if they don't ever have a bag to give away and people who just play like shit in general on him because he's not braindead like Paige with dragons of infinite waveclear, 500+ health shields that can be applied to multiple teammates per cooldown AND having fat gun steroids with said shield and retard proof CC swords. Any support that isn't as retard proof as Paige will always have sub par winrates because 90% of support players are incompetent retards.
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>>587271479
>90% winrate is his threshold for when something is imba
Bro if something's above 53% it's sus, if it's above 55% it's disgusting, if it's above 56% it's cancer
Yes this includes the obvious stratification of accounting for only reasonably high ranked play
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has the reverse bunny suit Graves mod been fixed yet
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>>587271559
I'm apparently being forced into games with people 12 ranks below me, how the fuck am I the one throwing?
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so when are they fixing this screen wide aoe spell spam?
game unironically needs mana
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>>587270513
That's the definition of problematic
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>>587272307
because you fucking suck
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>>587272350
But Graves is jewish
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>>587272491
Is she circumcised?
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How is Danny not nerfed yet
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>>587270957
>these replies

Holy shit the mental gymnastics in these replies WINNING IS THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS THAT IS THE POINT OF THE GAME

You guys are seriously over complicating this simple fact
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Infernus SUCKS but I like how his flame aura makes it look like he has claws
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complety forgot that buyback is a thing in dota, imagine if that was in deadlock
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>>587272536
Her pussy is backwards.
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I think it's funny watching people once again run in to the old AD vs AP balance split with gun vs spirit and just not understand how miserable it would be if gun was as good as spirit
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>>587272842
Like anyone in this general would even notice
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>>587272851
>just not understand how miserable it would be if gun was as good as spirit
This.
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>>587272851
but gun is more overpowered than spirit and has been that way for months
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Melee Infernus is viable with Napalm damage amp
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>>587271640
Most upsetting team comp I've fought
>Rat King
>Harrow
>Paige
>Danny
>Victor
>Apollo
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>>587273108
I love that you have the total confidence to just say shit like this
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Remove
>wraith
>haze
>seven
>infernus
>warden
>venator
>vyper
>grey talon
>vindicta
>mirage
Nerf
>holliday
>paradox
>shiv
>giest
>victor
>pocket
>danny
Buff
>mo & krill
>paige
>kelvin
>dyanmo
>harrow
>rem
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>>587272614
Lmfao, brainlets like you are the reason why they bother putting shit like "9/10 doctors recommend this product" in commercials.
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can we remove the mo burrow tier resistances kelvin gets when he presses 2
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Emissaries keep banning Violet for some reason, and subsequently bringing this on themselves
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>>587273785
>can we nerf one of the weakest characters in the game
/dlg/
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we really need that item overhaul
I think half the problems with the game right now come from items being fucked up. half the characters in the game have identical builds.
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i feel like Baba was made for a shop rework that's months away where you get more options for a gun pivot
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>>587270639
girth
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This game's itemization is confusing. A lot of items do very similar things, like Metal Skin & Disarming Hex. They both cost the same and are meant to counter gun characters, so when should I buy one over the other? item investment spikes?
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>>587273686
Is it difficult to breath up there on mount midwit
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>>587274026
>enemy haze bought curse
disarming
>enemy haze bought unstop
metal skin
>enemy haze bought both
gg
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>>587272350
What actual Graves would think about this: Who? Hiltler? He LOST? Ew, get away from me, loser. Yuk.
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>our team somehow won
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FUCKING WRAITH
EVERY SINGLE GAME
CAN'T DO SHIT AGAINST HER TILL 6 AND THEN IF SHE'S NOT A RETARD SHE JUST ULTS AND RUNS AWAY
FIVE MINUTES LATER SHE SPIKES AND CAN LITERALLY PISS ON HER KEYBOARD TO KILL YOU AND WILL NOT FALL OFF FOR THE REST OF THE GAME
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>>587273959
>Zero deaths
Probably thanks to Harrow but still, such an honest character
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I know this game is well balanced because people will call every single character an unfair dishonest nigger character. If everyone is busted then it's a fair game.
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I've been begging for team fortress 3 all these years....little did i know...it was right here all along...
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>19800 souls worth of items in a single ability
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>>587274447
LIFTING!!!
I've played like 20 games of the new season and every single loss besides one had a wraith on the enemy team
She's been game breaking OP since the march patch
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>RAPE RAPE RAPE
>I LOVE TO RAPE
I just returned from a long deadlock vacation. Is Celeste's still like this? I feel they haven't overtuned her enough.
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>>587275072
her best items got nerfed and she directly got nerfed in the last patch
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Isn't it fun how Danny gets Abrams ult as a fun side mechanic? I love that
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are these three the god tier whores of deadlock?
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>>587275184
Fucking finally
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https://x.com/SouljahAsh/status/2112738811474227509
yeah when even geist's eternus player builds (oses and crayon) went to pure bomb builds that's the sign that something is fucked with gun in this game right now and not just the items
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>>587275386
None matches the notoriety of Baba.
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>twitter link
>ecelebslop
Shant be opening
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>>587275386
I don't see abrams in that picture
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why m1ggers are like this? KEKARO
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>>587275328
Brick post holy shit lmao
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today i learned that paradox carbine does in fact not pierce through units
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So tired of eternal gun meta.
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>wraith on enemy team
>melts anyone on her path in milisseconds
>can't leave her alone for 1 second otherwise all our walker are gone
>have to sacrifice two slots for slow and disarm (despite the fact this utterly ruins my tempo and build)
>no one else buys actives
>she can just wait the effect out and rape everyone anyways
Just counterbuy bro
Just counterbuy
It's your job to baby sit the entire enemy team
Just counterbuy bro
Your team is free to follow their L-R guide with zero regards to the game state
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So tired of eternal CCslop meta
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>every single game is a fucking stomp
BRAVO ICEFRAUD
didn't this get fixed in dota fucking ages ago
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>>587275427
its funny that even mouth breathing fathers of downies can understand the concept of leading shots in battlefield. Now a bunch of they/them queers on twitter and 4chan can't even grasp this concept. You can't make this shit up
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I DON'T MISS
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>>587276123
>Bebop
>leading shots
https://deadlock.wiki/Bebop#Weapon
>Fires a continuous beam with no bullet travel
>no bullet travel
Your response?
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>>587276331
I accept your concession saar.
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>>587275386
I don't see Ava there
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>>587276331
he doesn't have infinite fire rate, the beam can not hit something if its between firing ticks
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what character (other than doorman he's already my main) should i play if i enjoy being an annoying splitpusher + farm stealer + general nuisance
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>>587276331
RETARD ALERT RETARD ALERT RETARD ALERT
RETARD ALERT
RETARD ALERT
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If you buy gun on danny you are a moron
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>>587275427
the problem with bomb geist is that other characters like Paige do the "ground based AoE slop spam" role better
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>>587276530
Apollo seems to make people very upset
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>>587275427
>>587276331
Holy shit can you just fuck off already?
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>>587276530
How have you not picked up /ourguy/ yet?
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These are the characters I have played so far (in actual standard matches) and my thoughts on them. Point out my delusions and also recommend who I should try next.
>Ivy
Really good lane, gets much better late game if you follow teammates like a puppy dog. Pretty fun but most of her gameplay feels like playing super safe and pussy.
>Baba
Terrible early game, really fun late game. It does feel like by the time you get to the point where you are dangerous the game is pretty much over. I do randomly daydream about using her 1 ability because it's such a unique and satisfying attack.
>Mo
I played two matches and he feels meh. He's supposed to be a brawler but the heals he gets from his self heal ability is really not sufficient so he can only accomplish anything with multiple teammates, or with a carry that could kill the enemy alone anyway.
>Rat
Just chuck stuff while standing at objective and sometimes plant the flag while standing at objective. He seems pretty effective at what he does but kinda boring.
>Warden
Seems like a teamfighter. I don't see how his three helps him alone at all. He's nice to have in a teamfight but playing the rest of the game as him is just boring.
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Thoughts on giving heavy melee and parry a stamina cost per use? Make heavy melee do more damage and parry stun longer, make light melee unparriable and leave damage the same, make a succesful parry refund stamina.
Maybe add a dash heavy punch something like dash jump, where if you time it right, you only consume the 1 stam and the punch animation is faster?

Idk, just think melee could be more complex if we are going to have items and characters designed around it.
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>>587276530
Billy. Seen his ass backdoor and solo patrons because he just tanks it even and eats attention.
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>>587277060
never post this again
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>587276331
And the most retarded post ITT award goes to...
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>>587277060
>make light melee unparriable
Do you have ANY idea how much this buffs Billy
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>>587277443
Billy is unplayable booty butt ass right now so
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>people complain non-stop about Pillow Rem players being shit and just stealing the ally's sinners just to feed the bag away to the enemies
>decide to play Pillow Rem ti see if the build is just bad or if the players are just retarded
>it is in fact just retarded players evidently
>I get to nuke people, neuter their fire rate, slow them to a crawl AND I still heal over half my ally's HP bar with just Healing Tempo despite going full damage
Shit this is way more useful than my usual full support build, god damn.
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>>587275386
Baba was definitely whore #1 in her youth
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>>587277528
NTA but that's a good thing.
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You should build full spirit drifter, you're gonna be doing big gun damage lategame anyway
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>>587277564
>everyone got 10k+ over enemy team
>even Silver
Just got lucky with the team.
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>>587275072
Yep Little boys in particular.
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New to the game and just discovered how OP boxes are after a few games. ngl, game feels super fun except for box farming crap now that I discovered how boring being efficient is. Do the devs have any plans to remove this garbage? Like everything is so great but apparently if you run circles in the street doing fucking nothing, not even farming camps, you outscale everyone and trivialize the game. Least is there any character I can pick up who never cares to do this shit?
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Would the spirit meta be solved if we killed escalating exposure?
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>>587277716
The damage was still good though. And the healing was still stronger than the support build by virtue of healing over half my teammate's HP bars with each use of it. So I was still supporting anyway. Probably would have replaced Healbane with Knockdown or something if I needed to.
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>>587277867
bait
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>>587277942
a few characters would be heavily nerfed (infernus first 10% winrate hero?) but it won't outright solve anything
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>>587277942
You solve it by reworking Gun.

https://www.reddit.com/r/DeadlockTheGame/comments/1xrr3da/its_about_time_we_got_a_gun_rework_so_i_came_up/
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>>587277528
Billy is one of the best frontliners in the game lil bricklo
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Abrams is the only viable melee character right now because he ignores the parry mechanic entirely by stunning people for free heavies. Billy sucks because he doesn't have a stun to stop people from spamming their parry key
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>>587277942
No. Escalating Exposure is a powerful item but just a symptom. It's much more fundamental like how spirit items affect all items and abilities while gun is just a linear increase. Gun items need to have a thorough effect on attacking overall.
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My damage was very solid on this one with only two damaging items, is that how it goes on Silver?
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>>587278215
Fuck no. No reworks. Remove gunslop from the game.
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>>587278279
My simple solution is to play bot matches on Billy
It's what I've been doing
... I still get parried
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>they remove mid-game commends because it was ''toxic''
>they add pinging your own dead teammates and pinging their items all with voicelines
lol?
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>>587276931
You're cute. You should play Rem.
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>>587277981
Not even bait, genuine post because I find it very very hard to believe people actually like that part of the game.
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>>587278263
lol
lmao
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>>587254604
>I don't see her as much in fanart as the other four
hoyl newfag
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>>587278215
This completely misses the actual "problem" with gun. Guns are more easily available than abilities. Abilities have cooldowns and generally take more time to activate, while a gun is as simple as clicking the left mouse button. Of half the characters in the game were building gun, half the cast would just be deleting your health with minimal interaction and minimal mechanical knowledge. Guns being more niche than spirit is just a necessity, like how AD characters are more rare than AP characters. Trying to make gun items more "fun" and "unique" just means the guy clicking your head is doing it more quirkily and doesn't answer the fundamental problem of gun damage being the easiest thing in the game to access
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>>587278435
Check out what Drifter bought!
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>>587279137
>it's easier to click than to press 1
>guns don't have a cooldown (reload doesn't count)
This is your argument? Really?
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>>587279137
>mobatard mindbroken by basic shooter concepts once again
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>>587279137
post your headshot rate
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>>587279137
Anon abilities overwhelmingly play themselves with little to no aiming or timing
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>>587279237
>it's easier to click than to press 1
Fundamentally yes
>guns don't have a cooldown (reload doesn't count)
You have an entire clip of ammo and reloading is always much quicker than the average ability cool down
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>>587279237
>>587279340
m1ggers be like
shiet bruh fr fr i be styling on these fools
*press 3*
*hold m1*
*spam 1*
damn imma fucking spirit nuker up in this bitch
they better finna be reworking gun tho caus this shit aint got the sauce nahmean?
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>>587278435
I'm still mad they did that, it was fun.
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Gunslop and m1gger players are going to kill this game.
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just pull the plug doc
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>>587279479
IMO the game would be more fun and engaging if the guns randomly jammed for 10-15 seconds so that spirit players don't get gunned down by Haze so much.
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>>587278435
>>587279650
>tfw can't spam wp in chat anymore
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>I bought this!
is objectively the funniest voiceline in the game though
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>>587279769
That's not your real opinion, that's some retardation you made up
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i had a game where i actually did well by some miracle
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>>587279884
mogged by every single one of these
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/voicelines/?quick=has%20toys
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>>587276931
You sound like you would really like Bebop if you tried him.
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>>587275761
You know I'm right.
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>>587279884
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/voicelines/?voiceline=lash%2Fping%2Flash_ping_bebop_check_items.mp3
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STONE FORM
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This game takes place in NYC where is the landshark?
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>>587279137
the guys replying to you are probably the same guys who think hitscan characters are the pinnacle of skill in hero shooters
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extremely honest and ethical character
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street brawl is a serious game mode
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guys look my game has a lot of mods give me some attention
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>>587280952
Loan Shark an anthro shark wearing a scumbag business suit would be a soulful character.
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>>587281070
Funniest thing is they can't nerf her because they'll have to either nerf the items or completely rework her gun
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Arcane Surge works really well hitting breakpoints for Tankbuster on Silver
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>>587280402
I will try him
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>>587281070
nigga you're up on souls like more than 15k
Of course it's a stomp
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>>587281121
one of my friends is trying this gimmick with me currently
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>victor can just walk at objective and die three times till he kills it
but why
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>>587281107
This is more about Danny than it is about Street Ball.
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post them roster's
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>>587281791
danny is a fair and balanced character
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>>587281070
>up an extreme amount of souls
>is surprised his character just rapes people
Retard? Also shit taste in mods.
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>>587281593
He is a pos3 split pusher.
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>>587279728
>it's a stack that always walk together
why is standard like this
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>>587281070
Your skins are cringe and you should be ashamed.
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How do you repair account standings?
Im at the point where im being put into low priority because I had the audacity to take a piss while waiting for respawn.
Is it really solely tied to commendations?
I cant even be told to "play nice" because all it takes is 2 guys playing together to report me for literally anything to shove me into low prio.
You would think with how rich valve is that they'd put more thought into moderating.
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>Lady Geist's Life Drain now roots people for the duration of the drain
thoughts /dlg/? with this at least bomb geist build now makes sense
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>>587282462
you don't get punished for a single match and party reports count as one
just stop being an annoying shitter!
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can someone explain to me what to do with assassins like mina and drifter if no one is ever alone or low health? I roam and roam and i can never find a suitable prey. Shit is boring af
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>>587281887
Does this count?
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>>587282596
>extremely wrong opinion
discarded and hidden
NEXT!
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Does cumming in the shower clog your drain?
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>>587282683
yep, you deserve the low prio
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>>587282768
it should rot away on it's own if you don't do it multiple times a day ever day
and even then drain cleaners exist
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>>587279728
>queue again
>get the same people
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>>587283043
So it's not my fault?
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How does Israel of Deadlock universe look like? Does Fairfax Industries supply them with arms?
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>game takes place in the 40s
>no Average Joe hero
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>>587283215
i'd sooner blame it on your pubes/hair or if you're living with a woman it's 100% her fault
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>>587281070
Your skins are cool and you should feel good about yourself.
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>>587281593
He's based.
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>>587283367
Well No sex until she cleans it up!
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>>587283353
Dynamo is the closest
Guess he's also a dying star/black hole
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>>587283439
you tell her
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>>587283353
Trapper in the next 6 hero drop trust
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>>587283574
What the fuck do you mean
>next 6
Feels like we have a big enough roster for now, no?
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Does one Rem helper take all three sinner's in bell tower, or just the two that are next to each other?
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>>587211664
>>587212389
Is it this mod? The hair looks different
https://gamebanana.com/mods/696039
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>>587283278
Israel didn't even exist until the late 40s.
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>>587283501
It's so good having an transgender asian tradwife
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>>587283680
No, there's room for at least 6 more and some kit reworks
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>>587275386
didn't the guy who made this get bullied out of xitter?
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>>587283278
There are no jews in deadlock
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>>587283820
you can't marry yourself
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they need to add a surrender to this, i know Valve are hyperniggers when it comes to this shit but unironically what are you supposed to do when both other lanes go 0/10 in the 1st 10 min, i cant go afk for 1 min to go have a shit without risking Yoshi screaming "NO SHITS ALLOWED" and banning my ass but im expected to be locked in and doing something for 30 min whilst my team feed their brains out non stop and avoid every objective like its radioactive, cant they just put a big glowing sign over street brawl saying "if you just want to fight play this".
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>>587282646
Surprisingly adequate for most of them. Except Graves I suppose.
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>>587271809
>haze gets a free kill with her ult and no counterplay under the right setup of slowing hex + some attack speed items
>what's wrong with her ult
It's kind of retarded that she only scales off of attack speed. Without actually needing to build any on hit. It's like Old Omni-Slash, which was widely considered some unfair bullshit BUT because everyone knew it was bullshit few people let you meme on them with it
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why can you still pause when rejuv crystals are dropping
you just instantly pause when a lash ults and then warn your team to use their unstops/counterspells
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>>587284231
Before the Nov 4 patch I would say no because I've had so many losing games that me and my team managed to turn around and come back.
But after that patch it all snowballs one way or the other so now I'm not sure, I'd probably welcome it in a current meta
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>>587281070
ywnbaw
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>>587283795
Balfour Declaration was made in 1917 and Israel was established proper in 1948. Deadlock takes place in 1949, so Israel has just become an internationally recognized country and would be wrangling the surrounding arab nation into armistice agreements.
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Is this the hardest an anon has been BTFO'd in /dlg/ history? >587276331
KWABOTY
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>>587285064
>>>/pw/
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>>587281070
>respawn
>Abrams and Mina each gets one melee in
>the entire team then proceeds to whiff every single shot against a character that has no mobility options besides stamina
>Mina just shoots you instead of flying away, dies
>Abrams catches you against a wall and has you dead to rights
>Venator does NOTHING
>Abrams charges right into the wall that was erected behind him several seconds earlier, dies
>Venator finally starts to actually shoot you but at this point it's a 1v1 against a player with over twice his net worth
>whiffs a guaranteed gutshot melee somehow
Was this against fucking bots? Every single enemy player in this webm is a colossal retard.
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>>587285124
Learn to lead your shots saar.
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100h in the game and i still cannot win a single lane as mina or drifter and still cannot dive under tower to execute 1 hp people without dying. Why am i so trash?
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>>587285321
you already posted this
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>>587284678
had a game earlier today with a Paradox that went 0/19 over half a hour and when the game ended the opposing lane literally thanked him.
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>>587285396
and i don't get answers
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>>587284231
>they need to add a surrender to this
No, fuck off
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>>587284678
she should take it out on me instead...
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Genuinely cogitating uninstalling the game. Why isn't there a solo queue?
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>>587263995
I mean, I don't think I'd be so eager for it if I was behind. Isn't a strategy like this optimal to capitalise on a lead?

That's me told
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>>587277978
>The damage was still good though
Damage padding sorry nigger
You win more games consistently by actually buying active items and not being a worthless nigger who insta dies after throwing his pillow
Rem with curse + filled out active slots > feeding retard who steals all your farm to die on repeat to late game oneshots so he can boast about his epic damage number
Its the geist bomb shit of support
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>>587284231
The game just goes too long after it's already lost. You know it's lost, the enemy knows they won, and you have to sit there for 30+ minutes anyway.

I'm all for trying to come back but there are so many games where it's just never ever ever ever going to happen. Waste my fucking life sitting and waiting for shit games to end.
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Any violet combos i should know?
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i need to find a funny way to unstick hero myself irl
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Is dynamo like a duo character or something. The start sucks until you get level 5 slime wave thing then you can do stuff with your ult at the end of the game but in alot of teams everyone is afraid to take advantage of it
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Consume the Viscous chalice
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>>587286321
he is not a carry yes
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>>587277564
I still think curse and divine barrier would be better than spirit burn and reverb. But I know how it is in solo queue if you expect your team to deal the damage for you.
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>play abrams
>pick one person to dive for no matter what
>play doorman
>pick one person to ult for the entire game no matter what
Who else is a good character to play if I want to go for 1 person for the entire game? It's fun because I know they're getting tilted as fuck.
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they should add the Grifter
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>>587285741
>dying on repeat to late game one shots
That happens if the Rem player is bad even if they go full actives and won't ever make good use of them, so your rebuttal isn't a particularly valid one
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>>587286321
he is a support-type character
early game you can have a lot of impact with stomp and gun but after a bit your damage starts to become cosmetic and your utility becomes the dominant feature (note: quantum entanglement can grab allies with its alt-cast, and this includes through floors/walls)
his ult is one of the strongest in the game, if you make a comm or telegraph it with pings hard enough or show up to fights your team is already taking, you can easily get multiple kills out of it
in soloq the latter is the easiest. lash wants to do the same mostly, which is look to surprise enemies who are grouped and distracted. dynamo's is unreactable if done right though
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>>587286321
wtf is the slime wave?
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>>587277595
You think she is more the elegant seductive type like Geist or a rampant tramp like Celeste?
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Overwatch and Marvel Rivals did irreversable damage to the competitive shooting community
These teammates are actually the dumbest niggers I have ever seen. And I just won a game. It's just the constant feeling of seeing these self-centered dopamine driven chimpanzees run off to watch number-go-up when a Walker or Mid-Boss is open. It's the constant reoccuring moments. The mind-breaking subtleties of watching some retard make 5 mistakes a minute, and knowing you're stuck with him for FORTY MINUTES.
The feeling of hearing some retarded Haze blame his team because his KDR is high, on the character designed to get kills. Zero sense of positional awareness, no idea what "macro" even means
The feeling of watching a Rem walk around and hit 3 on every single Sinners, putting his own team behind, as he smugly complains about his teammates doing nothing

It's
The feeling

This game is
My fucking nightmare
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>mystic reverb
talon, bebop
>crushing fists
abrams, billy
>spirit rend
mina, infernus
>express shot
shiv, paradox
>lightning scroll
seven, graves
>fury trance
haze, drifter
>majestic leap
pocket, viscous, lash
>lifestrike
abrams, billy
>diviners kevlar
sinclair, mirage, dynamo

I hope the item rework update addresses certain items only being non-grief buys on 2-3 heroes max, these are just a couple examples
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Yoshi should give me more active slots
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>>587288019
Diviners is good on ivy
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>>587288087
im sure it is buddy
*reports you for griefing*
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Thank you for inventing matchmaking algorithms
You are a spiritual terrorist
I get rewarded for doing good by having these people on my team
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>>587288248
Oh no, it's retarded...
*ivy ults you under walker*
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>>587251373
>gutshot is not a flank ability

???
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>>587287985
>IT'S OVERWATCH AND RIVALS' FAULT!
>IT'S TOTALLY NOT VALVE'S FAULT FOR MAKING A HERO SHOOTER MOBA!
Battleborn failed for a reason.
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>>587288019
>reverb
yamato, lash, paradox, talon, bebop, sinclair, geist, rem, kelvin
>crushing fists
drifter, viscous, venator, abrams, billy
not replying to the rest just know you're retarded
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what's going on here /dlg/?
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>>587288019
majestic leap is still taking balance reparations from 4 lane and is never allowed to be powerful
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>>587289042
except it only got nerfed after 3 lanes
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>>587254097
>broke 300k and managed to keep 200k daily

CNS was successful, the community is just full of meta fags who drop heroes over nerfs
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>>587288985
she's pegging your buss
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>>587288739
Because it attracted the speds that belong in the special needs games like Rivals and Overwatch instead of actual MOBA players. So it's still Rivals and OW's fault for conditioning people to play this way and frying their brains like Tiktok does.
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>>587288070
This, healing right is fucking great and I hate ditching it just because I run out of active slots.
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>>587289354
>actual MOBA players
ARAM existed for a reason.
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>>587257694
power budget, he doesn't need a strong 3rd ability
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Until the retards at Valve can figure out how to stop deathballers from winning every single game, they need to just ban these retards to cut their egos in half.
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>>587287985
Very true but is there really another option? Dota and League are dead in NA cause all the NA players are brown speds like the ones you mentioned that only wanna play brainless slop like Rivals and OW.
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>>587289407
>he still buys lane healing items
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>>587287559
he means the stomp
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another match where i'm bottom scorer as mina
i really don't understand this game
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>>587288765
>my venator/drifter buys crushing fists
>my geist/rem/kelvin buys reverb
i sell my items and afk
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>counterspell danny ult on reaction
>see the bubble around my character as it goes off anyways
cool hero
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>>587289580
yeah? It gives movespeed.
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going afk, there is no point if i'm already 5 levels behind at 15 minutes
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>>587289426
Just for retarded trannies and autists to seethe harder about it than people in Ranked do cause they're all braindead retards who want a competitive game but not having to actually LEARN the game.
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Nova should be a 4800 item that suppresses antiheal over it's duration.
As it stands it's an "only buy this on ivy or you're throwing" item because if your team takes damage in a fight they're going to be under 3 different antiheal effects. Rescue beam outclasses it for everyone, and ignoring antiheal for a few seconds still wouldn't be as strong as being lifted out of danger from a mile away.
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>>587266193
give passive bonus damage to heroes without a passive bonus damage ability
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da baxtuh society has yo numbuh
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>>587290085
Everyone hates you, Shiv
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>>587288019
Yamato and Viscous can both buy Crushing Fists. Yamato also buys Lifestrike. Paradox can buy Mystic Reverb.
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Why is there an echo shard viscous in every single one of my normal games? Did some streamer play it or something?
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>>587254743

link? have an alt acc I want ranked for
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>try to confirm lasthit
>my bullets fly straight through it
>Denied!
holy fuck can they use a netcode that isn't from fucking 1980
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Can I play Rat King like a Tanky Support? Not doing damage but soaking up damage instead?
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It's crazy that Mirage hasn't been fun to play for a single day since his introduction but he's kept as is because he's viable in some gay esportsfag tournament. If it's not fun why bother?
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>>587289773
i swear someone shot the servers because last night my games were awful
parries going through when they shouldn't, abilities not going off after i clearly used them, it was so bad and happening a couple times every game
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This is like my 10th game, is this baba character the strongest in the game or something?
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>>587290592
thats the whole point?
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>>587290596
There's a tiny population of mobafags who love him because of "muh macro" (ignoring the fact that Ivy and Doorman can do the same thing but better and more fun)
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>>587290709
oh
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>>587290683
Yes actually
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>>587290596
using tornado aggressively with a teammate to capitalize on it is fun
watching someone shit their pants and explode from getting full djinns mark on them is fun
global teleport can be fun but I wish they leaned in more on the bodyguard angle

beetles suck
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>>587290746
Can people in ranked deal with stomping spam?
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>>587289773
>>587290471
>>587290647
Try upgrading your connection, Rajesh.
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Harrow is stupid. It's not even her ult at this point, just the healing and 2.
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>>587290864
You can parry the stomp, it's actually the weakest part of her kit
No, you're not expected to figure that out without someone telling you
The reason she's broken is because she's the anti spirit character in a game where 90% of the roster builds spirit
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I know the stun thing on bebop does no damage but it causes me emotional damage
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>>587289354
Because it's not just a fucking moba you retard
Why would Valve make a competitor to their own game by just making the same thing??
Deadlock is one other evolution of the moba genre just like hero shooters have, but more directly and like it or not it heavily borrows from both the moba and hero shooter genres
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>spellslinger still bugged
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>>587291152
how?
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>>587271737
remove or retool one of her long leg resists, making threadsap a bit harder to hit (it has a massive hitbox), that's about it. her winrate will be inflated because everyone just mashes on spirit heroes
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>>587291152
By being fucking overpowered, like every other m1gger item in the game?
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>>587291280
Half the abilities in the game just don't proc it for one reason or another. The one I'm currently upset about being haze's smokebomb
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>>587291076
Bebop has no stun
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>>587291413
>>587291413
>>587291413
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why do they sell rifts as comeback mechanics? it feels like they have 0 effect on the game
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>>587291395
works on my machine
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>>587291774
it doesn't in an actual match
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>>587291941
sounds like cope
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>>587257535
upgrade to express shot that builds up a powerful charged shot depending on how long you waited to shoot. it works on his ult
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>>587290738
to be fair, he's clearly meant more to played like a carry, it's just ivy is overtuned and does everything he wants to do but better
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>>587288458
thats an actual bug you fucking troglodyte
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>>587252029
Fu Manchu Spy
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>>587280402
He's fun
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>>587295426
Knew he was what you were looking for. Nice.
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>>587276530
Sinclair. If you know what you are doing he is one of the most annoying characters that the enemy will be dealing with. Too bad he really is hard and they nerfed the shit out of bolts 3 shotting the walker.
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>>587285683
No you're completely right, but it's just a lot less cool to kill a defenseless puppy even if it's optimal



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