Maidlock Edition>Latest patch:https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450/view/680766201707627248>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/https://deadlock-api.com/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/https://www.deadfrag.com/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>587211231
Butt Silver
we need a bee hero
She's in
Shiv is the troubadour
You guys ever use the steamvents like this?
>>587248518Yes, on drifter
>drifter webmAttentionwhore time
wraith and vindicta if the game weretn woke
Kinda got carried in this one but at least the enemy team got punished for mindlessly brooling down blue lane non-stop like a bunch of fucking Marvel Rivals playing retard monkeys
Why do people just flat out refuse to give up Rift? Had a dude complain because I didn't help him fight a 1v5 (it was just me and him nearby) because "bro we could've contested". Like yeah bro we could've contested for 10 seconds before both becoming SA victims
>>587248645>nooo DONT POST GAMEPLAY POST STUFF LIKE THIS!!!!!!!>>587248738>>587248335
>>587248738>esl porn addict seething
>>587248738Vindicta has those proportions already, it's just hidden to the untrained eye by the dress
Sex with Venator
now that I got your attention, how do we buff Harrow?
literally none of the new heroes are fun to play against, it's a complete net negative
Guy that revived Graves is making Capacitor Haze build
>>587248948get rid of her heal and instead make it a damage on hit ability
>>587248645
Lash sex
>>587248335I'm in her.
>>587248948Remove the shoot to heal hero shooter ability and remove the "grief your frontliner" shield
>>587248965Rat King, just because you can light melee his granade into your teammate
>>587249157>Remove the shoot to heal hero shooter abilitylearn how to aim!
Remove parries, they are cheats
>>587248948We don't, release Harrow was a good example as to why the game shouldn't have a dedicated healer character. It's not fun to play against someone who can get a teammate from 1hp to full in 2 seconds
I'm going to spam billy ONLY for the next 3 days. see you in ranked VERY soon :D
why does nobody know how to use midboss in my shitlo
>>587249325just tell them to go mid and they will
>>587248948I'm not convinces she is bad. From what I've seen, people build her like full retards and overcommit to gimmicks instead of making solid support builds on herAll the builds I see seem to focus on getting way too much ammo without considering the need for firerate and potency per shot. Or they make gummick builds with bloodtribute, toxic bullets, etc.Basically, any build that doesn't just go >tit.mag, qsm, heroic auraAs their first three items is literally throwing.
>>587249325using midboss to farm is lowkey a strat. shitlow players will hide in their base if your team has rejuvs because they're expecting a siege. so you just take every resource on the map and fatten up while they do nothing
>>587249349I mean we take mid and they just go back to farming instead of going for objectives
Just had a retard wannabe m1gger Harrow grief my ranked game by never healing anybody and going 1/13
>>587249325I think the correct way to say this is "why don't we know how to use midboss in shitlo"You are a part of them so you also don't know how to use it. Pretty simple.
I wish I could retract all my votes for Danny
>/dlg/ with Paige and Rem: .........>/dlg/ with Harrow: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE NERF HER NOW AAAAAIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEE???
How much % of your overall damage should 1600/3200/6400 damage oriented item do for it to be considered Valueable
>>587248189what position is celeste supposed to be. i can't figure out how much i need to farm with her.
So what heroe do diddy ahh blud play?
>>587249616I don't understand this question. You know that if you buy a 1600 item you get 1600 worth of investment, right? You're buying items for their effects. If damage is just what you want then buy anything it doesn't matter.
>>587248518IDF tier strategy
>>587249687Celeste is a caster (Mina, Pocket are other examples of Casters), which is an offcarry role.Basically, you want a shitton of farm.
>>587249532retard
>>587249782so like 2?
Paige-Violet lane is really strong
>>587249687pos2, you need some investment to reach your peak. tp + radiant + 4.8k green and you become the server admin for a while.
>>587249687You're like a midlaner in Dota.
>>5872496872-3
why are mina's thighs bigger than her head
>>587249868Paige-anyone lane is strong
https://www.reddit.com/r/DeadlockTheGame/comments/1xrgfw1/cloud9_are_set_to_enter_deadlock_with_the_signing/furion can you tp topfurion can you tp topfurion can you tp topfurion can you tp topfurion can you tp top
>>587249782Speaking of roles, in my head I've kinda settled on there beng roughly six niches for hero kits/directionDps>Carry, Caster/NukerFrontline>Tank, BrawlerEnablers>Support, PickCarry scales hard on m1, caster scales hard on ability damage. Tanks has methods of starting the fight and survives in the middle of it, Brawlers are survivable close quarters fighters, Supports are your typical support fare, Pick are heroes who can get to people that aren't necessarily out of position.Though I think the internal Valve categories rate heroes on a scale for 1-5 on the following metrics>How good is this hero on non-CC support and allied healing?>How good is this hero at frontline>I forget what the question for dps was. I don't think I get that one very frequently.Then hero comps probably is that you need a certain score in the big three categories.
>>587249831Yeah, she's a 2. But there is so much farm in Deadlock that you should just get as much as possible. She is decent at stealing camps too.
>>587250046LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Eido absolutely seething right now.
>>587249804post rank
>>587250094I basically have the same framework, if the api is anything to go by(it probably isn’t) then valve internally has a 4 role system, mystic/marksman/brawler/assasin
When Silver buffs
>>587250164It’s ok, the rest of them will be kicked soon enough
>>587250210silver will never be buffed unless they adjust how her ult functions. I know typical /dlg/ and just in general deadlock players are fucking retarded but try to understand the volatility of a character that gets steroids on everything when their ult pops.
>>587250172I'm a quickplay merchant and you're still a retard
>>587249604Paige and Rem can't full heal an entire team 4 times with literally no cooldown while also not being invincible like release harrow was.
I haven't played McGinnis in 2 years, and coming back its weird I've not seen her in any game in the past 20-30 hours genuinely. The fuck happened?Her 2 doesn't even have fire rate anymore
sadness/vegas duo when
>>587250184Yeah I've seen those labels, but I think it is some lingering thing that doesn't relate to the actual matchmaker (because when I looked at the labels they didn't correlate to what I actually get in matches and like 10 heroes were unlabeled).Probabaly it is some sort of Beginner Tutorilization thing that isn't implemented yet.
>>587250370Got nerfed many times, she's still pretty decent but not good enough to attract fotm meta-chasers so only dedicated droolers play her.
heavy melees are pretty cool
>>587250210She buffed
>people still just walk down blue after dropping patron and get raped by the respawning enemy team instead of just going through their jungle (and taking a camp or two)fucking retard teammates
>>587250094For me it's>DPS>Burst>Frontline/Tank>Utility>Support
>>587249709It's more or less "how much damage should item such as intensified magazine or tesla bullets should contribute to be considered usable"
>>587250543I look like this
>>587250534This is the hitbox that lets you heavy melee the stage 2 patron from the ground
>>587250315Her ult turns her into a melee creep
>>587250605>Her ult turns her into a Cloud9ftfy
>>587246459>>587246521ah got it thanks, and here i was thinking of giving LOL another chance,lol
>wraith not banned 2 times in a rowjust fucking euthanize me man
Here's your team's m1gger bro
>>587250649the EE ult...
is spirit apollo shit now?
>>587250821Always was
Hero for this feel?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWnaWpBCAC0
>>587250878sinclair
>>587250821Not really there's just no reason to run it over melee.
>>587250993melee is boring
Drifter should have Bloodseekers' ult
>>587251061only if he gets thirst too
>Mirage ults directly onto me while I'm farming jungle three times in a row>Get suspicious and stand in a steam vent not moving for 50~ seconds>He ults right onto me again>Check his Steam account after>Multiple VAC and gamebansSo does Valve just not give a fuck about cheaters in this game or what? Why do they even let VACbanned accounts continue to play more Valve games? "Yeah this nigger cheated in TF2 and got banned and in DOTA2 and got banned and in CSGO and got banned but I'm sure he'll be a good little gamer in Deadlock" Absolutely mental
>>587248948I think she's in a pretty good spot all things consideredThe only change I'd like to see are her leeches either dealing bonus damage to or having an extended duration on haunts/creeps so she doesn't just have to heavy melee spam to clear things>>587249414Toxic bullets is pretty good only but only if you're against other low damage heroes like tanks or supportsIt gives her some surprising bite that has taken many a player by surprise coupled with the leech damage>tit.mag, qsm, heroic auraTitanic Mag is the second built item for me, but I've never felt the need for QSM, and Heroic Aura feels more circumstantialTitanic + Kinetic Dash solves most of your ammo problems if you're careful, and you can be far less careful once you get the other horsesThe only downside is that you can get slot locked very easily, but Titanic + Kinetic is a must in my experience
>50% chance of getting raped for 40 minuteswhy do you guys play this
>>587250780Venator, the potencial Man5p granade does nothing, not a real power spike5p Shotgun is a memeTrap is a meme, can be shot downUlt is the best for cleanup, but every hero is good for cleanupGive me 6v6Give me DisruptorsGive me distracted enemies that I can flank with no flank abilities
>>587251310I prefer similar, titanic kinetic and swift striker for the 4.8k
>>587250821>1600 soul item deletes you from the gamealways wasgunpollo is the new thing
>>587251356I come from cs/dota where the rape was even longer
>>587251356i have a humiliation fetish so even if i lose i get something>40 minuteshonestly, i have come to like the 40 min matches as long as its not mindless grinding
>>587249687>positionDoesn't exist in Deadlock
>>587250210Never because that finngolian snownigger MikaelS1 decided to play her for about 5 days in ranked and has an above 50% winrate with her
Woww I wish I learned Calico sooner. You get to sprint around the whole map vacuuming boxes and ganking people and just fly away if they try to fight back.
>>587251416built for brutal ryonasnuff sex
>>587251718She's really fun when you have teammates and are allowed to get fat, but the bad games feel REALLY fucking bad, like not even tickles tier bad.
>>587251310Heroic Aura is her best item hands down, it is super synergetic with her kit>Attack speed makes her heal faster and gives her team increased dps to compensate for the fact that you can't attack>Armor aura buffs the effective potency of your heals (as heals goes "beneath" the armor)>Movement speed stops your fat chungus from getting caught.Tit.mag might be replaceable with kinetic dash, but I think k-dash might low key be a trap item on her since having to spend stamina for ammo (and jumping towards the fight) makes you liable to get gone on. QSM is also maybe more exchangeable, but it's a good 1600 spirit item that solves ammo issues and gives you attack speed (so faster healing), so what other item in the spirit category is giving you more value?Toxic bullet is actually just a trap item on her though. You have two abilitied that actively interfere with proccing on hit effects. You can go an entire fight without shooting an enemy a single time. You'd get more value out of Hunter's Aura unironically.
>>587251435You made me realize how I never play towards getting spikes>Grit and resto for lane sustain>Extended and charge for lane partner sustain>Then build a core of trophy collector, extended mag, kinetic dash, and arcane surge>After that I buy based on how the match is goingI also tend to get superior duration early enough because a ~10 second harrow ult can be devastating
Who would you add to deadlock?
>>587251905Arguably it doesn’t matter on harrow because her base dps is shit but I’m autistic about breakpoints
>>587252029a wheelchair character who cannot go up stairs would be funny
>>587252029Him
>>587252137Its a shame that they are so against reusing characters. because adding Saxton Hale as the first true melee only hero would be peak and fit right in too.
>team underperforming like hell and getting insanely behind in souls>deviate from my build to buy some counter actives so my team doesn't get destroyed instantly every teamfight>the 1/8/2 Billy starts seething at me with "you're trolling because you didn't even hit your vit 4.8k yet"Yes you fucking retard, I didn't because I have to keep buying shit for you to not die, god this game frustrates me so fucking much.
>>587251272gaben has figured out that most players in every game are cattle who cant distinguish between cheaters, smurfs, matchmaking lottery winners, etctheres no point devoting tons of devtime to the cat and mouse contest against cheat makers when most of the playerbase wont even notice the benefits
>>587251880>Heroic Aura is her best item hands downI'll give it a shot but that's a really tough sellKinetic on its own is pretty good on her, but combined with Arcane Surge and Stamina Mastery, while being a bit slot prohibitive, gives you immense amounts of utility and survivability>7 stamina>42% increased stamina recovery>Double air jumps and dashes>Effectively infinite healing ammo, 25% fire rate, and 20 spirit power for your healingHarrow simply explodes if directly engaged, and the best way to not be engaged is to not be where the danger is in the first placeAny fight you don't like you simply run away and reposition from>Toxic bullet is actually just a trap item on her thoughGotta disagree there. I won't say it's a must get every match, but certain matches having that extra damage and healing reduction allows you to keep certain heroes in check
>>587251718Imo, she was a blast to play a while ago before deathballs became meta in mid-high MMR and before they made early matter even less.Now she's more reliant on her team than she used to be, initiating fights more than assassinating people, and she gets scaled out really really bad, by minute 30 your only job is pushing waves and in teamfights, distracting the enemy team by pretending you can do a damn thing about their backline.
>>587252475>42% increased stamina recoverythere is no way the stamina items scale additively like that wtf is that true?
>>587251356Because you can also be the rapist and that part is fun
>>587252617>there is no way the stamina items scale additively like that wtf is that true?I have zero idea how it actually stacks in game so I'm just assuming but wouldn't be surprised if it scales multiplicatively instead However what I do know is that the buffs from Kinetic Dash and Arcane Surges' last for about the same amount of time as it takes for the 2 stamina you used to come back so with some care you can maintain them for as long as you need
>>587248306Silver's so ass
>>587253049Say that again!
>>587251718Drifter can do that too and he looks and sounds cool
How often do you get MVP?
>587252029>587252086>587252137>587252330>SAAARRR IM PLAY TF2 SAARRWhat causes this?
>>587252475I mean, one immidiate thing you can get instead of Toxic is Decay. Same effect but always active irregardless of what you are doing. Only issue is slot effectiveness since you want so many active items on her.>slot prohibitiveYeah, though I agree you don't want to get caught, all of those stamina items are extremely slot prohibitive and you are building a bunch of situational stuff instead of building to deathball the enemy. You are spending 6400 souls on collectibg horses instead of building into game winning items.I am a big hater of the dash items though. I'm not a fan of having to exchange my stamina for getting any effect, and I think they are only saved by the fact that they can make extra stamina a bit more slot effective.
>>587251416>>587251862No joke the female heroes' critical damage portraits in this game are turning me into a ryonafag. Very much so for Mina and Silver but Holliday in particular makes my dick diamonds. The sideways glance, chin tucked in, the scratch on her cheek, the pleading look in her bruised eye. It screams of domestic abuse victim. Just fucking look at picrel>Bad night where both of you argued and it devolved into a screaming match until she started putting on her cowgirl cosplay and saying she was leaving. And that pushed you over the edge so you grabbed her by her stupid scarf and smacked her over the head with a closed fist until she started crying and begged you to "stop, stop, you're hurting me" so you let her go. And now she's standing in the foyer (but her hand is no longer on the doorknob) and looking at you like picrel. And you feel blood flowing to your cock because you know she's wet nowI get similar vibes with Graves and Vindicta too, the mussed up hair and pleading "stop, stop, I'll stop arguing, just please don't hurt me anymore, okay?" looks on their faces. It's just incredible
DON'T YOU GET IT? I CAN DIE
>>587253313
>>587253313>DON'T YOU GET IT? I CAN'T BREATHE
>dunning-krueger retard Drifter calling anyone else useless while doing among the lowest damage on the team, does nothing but bait the team and refuses to do anything but insist on trying to just dive the enemy supports just to die to said supports because unlike in literally every other game, supports are not economically starved walking gold bags just waiting to be ripped in half at a moment's notice
>enemy has rejuvs>lets go randomly fight 6v6 in the jungle!Why can't people wait for them to commit to a push, wave clear and force them to engage/use rejuvs? That fight is happening regardless just do it when we have some mild advantage
>pocket on the enemy team 3x in a row when im playing victorwew lad
>>587253213His abilities don't seem nearly as fun or creative.
has anyone here disabled voice chat by default, or do you just mute the really loud angry people when they come up
>>587253564>really loud angry peopleis that an american thing
>>587253564I dont even know who's talking in VC their chat bubbles never appear below them
>>587253681>bringing up America unprompted i wonder what continent this guy is from
How the fuck does viktor reload his gun? He just flings it like someone trying flick water off their hands
>>587253564By default it’s on but i mute a lot of people based off the first few things they say into mic
>>587253775the most angry guy i saw on yuro servers was a guy demanding i call him a nigger in voice chat and not just typing itmaybe all the estrogen in the water makes people emotional over there?
>>587253838several reload animations are just banging the thing and unjamming it
>>587253880the estrogen is in the big macs, flouride is in the water you eurotrash retard
>>587253304Toxic is % max health whereas Decay is % current health and the whole point of taking it is to give you some combat presence, so the higher damage and more accessible application is preferred >You are spending 6400 souls on collectibg horses instead of building into game winning items.I'm of two minds about thisYou can stop at just KD and AS and then focus on harder hitting items like Curse if you so desire. I know I sometimes don't take SM until later in the game, or sometimes not at all depending on what the match requires, but having 2 horses already does wonders for survivability, utility, and maneuverability The other thing is that Harrow's core abilities are incredibly impactful already, so having the means to be where you're most effective is invaluable, and having multiple horses allows you to be where you need to be when you need to be there on top of all the other benefits they provide
>>587253959sorry, im not up to par with my american lore it seems!
>apollo if on my team>1-17-6>apollo if on other team>27-5-3
Word on the street has it Nurse Harrow's decrepit hag womb is weak to energetic youthful shota sperm. Guaranteed !CRITICAL HIT!s and strips both her bullet and spirit resistances at once.
>>587254040and yet you're talking shit like you know anything about anything, shut the fuck up hans
Mina, Rem, Silver and Drifter are hands down the character that brought the most new players, everyone else has been a dud.Valve have to lock in for the next batch.
troubadourlennymaggiehankmildredms. shelly
>>587254108Maggie is McGinnis' first name you moron
>>587254097>rat king
NA will never win any esports again EU because EU is a nanny state and has millions of men who play video games 16 hours a day and don't need to get jobs
Why are Russians so shit at the game? I thought jobless retards were supposed to be good
>>587254097You forgot Ivy>>587254108What did he mean by this
>>587254196...is a dud>>587254441I don't see her as much in fanart as the other four, but yeah she's up there, might even be the most popular base roster character with Haze.
I finally unlocked ranked, except I don't even feel like playing these characters anymoreI think I'll unlock a few more, then when I'm bored with those come back to these ones, by which time I will have forgotten all about how to play themGreat system for ensuring character mastery
>>587254665join a loss discord group u can unlock new char in 3 hrs
>>587248189>>587211664I am synthesizing connections within my mind palace
>>587254665maybe you shouldn't have picked some of the most boring characters in the game to play then retard
>>587254097started playing for venator and want to chokefuck mina
>>587254665I stick to the principle that I only play unlocked characters in ranked. When I wanna grind those characters I play ranked, otherwise I play standard.Both modes have mmr, so if I wanna improve at the game I can play either of the modes and accomplish the same thing. Grinding ranked won't matter in 6 months since the ladder just resets anyhow.
>>587254665The first 200 hours don't matter. Go nuts man ranked isnt that big a deal.
what's even drifter's wish in the ritual? true immortality?
>>587254665>by which time I will have forgotten all about how to play themRanked, especially at anything below Phantom (and sometimes even that) feels pretty much the same as standard, people just flame a lot more. As long as you don't die 10 times during lane just bee youself.
>>587254970for fun :)
>>587254970>what's even drifter's wish in the ritual?"that was fun, let's do it again"
>>587254970he's evil so he's going to wish for a netflix deadlock anime
I'm gonna rat
I'm going to Rat!
I'm gooning to Rat (King)!
should heal and bane be put into two separate items?or make it a 3200?
>>587253997I still think Toxic is a trap item. It's lower duration makes you even less likely to get value from it. 3200 for an item you maybe use is really suspect, that's souls that could have gone into an active item in the spirit category. As for more gun items, you got blood sacrifice that will give you a bit of survivability and stay relevant while you are healing. Harrow has so many options before Toxic Bullets, not to mention that in good toxic bullet games, someone else is probably already buying it anyhow.
>>587255190>netflix adapation>archmother is just straight up debra wilson, not just her voice>abrams is a black dude and bangs every female character that didn't get raceswappedDrifter you scoundrel
>>587254970He's just there for a good time.
Do you think Drifter cums blood? or Mina lactates blood?
>>587254665everything in this game matters. i was in low prio 14 years ago in dota 2, quit, and now i have horrible behavior score and am banned from ranked. valve will never lift punishments on your account
Insect themed hero who has 4 stamina, can fly, can use vents but is bad in every other way
This game desperately needs a forfeit feature. I'm stuck in a 35 minute game where one faggot is constantly running across the map and dying to the tower intentionally while two other guys flirt with a guy that is barely putting any effort into his girlvoice and talking about how he writes yaoi fanfiction and that's why he picked Paige. I am the only person positive on the team. There's literally no reason I should have to sit through the rest of this game.
They buffed Divine Barrier but I still think it's very useless
>>587255452>"erhmmm what the frick? so you are like a giant rat or something??">"Seven is dangerous but does anyone else think he is sorta hot"man i cant even make myself write Marvel netflix dialogue i dont know how these motherfuckers do that
>>587255452you reactionaries cannot help but fantasize about beebeesees unprompted, huh? I was referring to the boring dota anime, not whatever schizo shit you're mentally fapping to. holy idpol derangement
>>587255630We can't make a Kafka joke because the transforming hero trope is already taken by Silver
>>587255710I mean Diviner's Kevlar...
>AOE nuke>AOE nuke>AOE nukeThis is balanced>AOE nuke>AOE nuke>Lich Ult>AOE nuke>Dashes 6 times and leaves 3 more AOE nukesnerf celeste
>>587255729DOTA anime was kino though. It's boring to you most likely because it didn't have nigger rap in it. Maybe Arcane is more your thing.
>>587255758>transforms into a melee creep>still expected to have impactsilveresque...
>>587255710It's good if your hero likes to open with their ult since it gives a lot of spirit. Cosmetical's Mina build is a good use case for it. I also bet Infernus would be really good with it actually.
>mina and rem on team
>>587255758>Gregor Samsa themed bug character>can be the fan awaited wagie normal dude>add a bit of The Fly homage there as well>voicelines with other characters being confused because they see him as a normal guy unlike how he sees himself>wish is to turn back into humanthis shit writes itself
>>587255729That's literally what Netflix does with adaptions though retard
>lose half hp to random aoe trash thrown around that wasn't even aimed at meI hate this shit so much, and it's always a paige too.
>>587256064Paige is the random bullshit go character
>>587256064The idea that an AoE does less damage the further from the center is lost technology.
>bebop hyperbeam, but it auto aims for you and you place it anywhere you want (6 charges)lol
>>587256064Buy spirit shielding or spellbreakerIf there's a Paradox doing carbine bullshit, I WILL be rushing spellbreaker
I think Spirit Burn is secretly the strongest, must build item in the game.
>>587254139Literally all fan headcanon, there's no evidence Maggie isn't a separate character
>>587255854>ohhh you don't worship Dota you can only be a stinky League babychrist why are all dotards like this? i gave both shows a few episodes and they were both crap. please get standards
>>587255787It’s decent on rat king, silver, mirage
>>587256325DON'T look at McGinnis official backstory.
>>587256246>dies to a stiff breeze and is completely irrelevantJust stop ignoring the turrets retard.
>>587255758Have it be some guy who rents his body as an apartment complex to various species of insects and parasites so that he can pay his own rent.
>>587248794I usually go for a walker whenever a rift spawns, because I know the enemy team will mindlessly go as 6 to take the rift.Sometimes I get 2 walkers
>>587256471>Just go read her Fairfax employee records bro
>>587255758Like Mo or Vyper, just make him a big cockroach who is sentient for some reason and has a gunFor fun, the rest of the roster completely ignores this and treats him like a normal dude, it's like a fanmade mod reskin or something, everyone just goes "oh hey Kafka" "let's lane together" "Kafka has ult" and never ever make any references to him being a literal cockroach
Do you think a character in a completely different artstyle could work or would that be too quirky?
>>587256524Maggie McGinnis is a genius and anyone who can spare the time to read her official Fairfax biography would be doing themselves a favor! She's a genius, plain and simple, but not the stuffy kind who writes books or ruminates on theories. No no! She hands her inventions right to you, happy to see them used, all at a reasonable price.
>>587256246The things you read on this general.At this point Turret McGinnis is the weakest she's ever been, she cannot get any kills, only assisted suicides.
When the fuck are they nerfing big boxes? People leaving lane to spend 3 minutes doing box routes while abandoning their lanes is getting too much for my taste
>>587256693Imo boxes should be deleted There I said it
>>587256670redditnigger larp
>>587256683She is basically just a wall bot and pushing objectives with ult. The turrets at most keep a wave held because the trooper/obj damage, and exist for suppressor/slow. The heal kinda sucks, and maybe with all the new shit in the game we get the fire rate or scaling AOE back. The wall behind good is basically because it spawns 2 turrets free
>>587256764HOW DARE YOUTHEY ADD SOOOO MUCH DEPTH TO THE GAME
>>587255758>>587255934>looks like a completely normal wagie>transforms for a couple of seconds whenever he uses his abilities before his body fixes itself/readjustsA bodyhorror hero would be pretty cool
>>587256693Who the hell is trading 3m of lane farm for 3m of boxes, the waves will be more. If anything just push boxes back 2 minutes but as-is it hardly matters.Its like saying the apples should go because people get free heals for knowledge/movement gaps
>>587248518yes but even when people arent camping vents the secret shops are a death sentence especially if they're using """"mods"""" (cheats) that immediately tell them when someone has bought an item so they know to check there haze sees you buy an item and sprints at 20m/s in invisibility to the shop to catch you before you leave, fucking retarded game
>>587249430I just got calibrated for the first time. I was playing a year ago before the season stuff and took a long break. I was Ritualist 1 before the reset I think.I calibrated to frog/sentinel/bronze 2 yesterday. Which is weird, because I did not have even 1 game in those 10 calibration games where a single person in the lobby was above iron. Most games were a mix of brick and stone. And I lost 8/10 games.It just seems so strange. Either I'm placed way too high now, or those 10 games were forced into shitter ranks for no reason.
>>587248965rat king is fineviolet is fine now tooit's true the other 4 are basically game terrorist though. At least danny is fun to play so he can be excused
>>587256912Big boxes have shifted the dynamic to more box favored, you can nearly match lane souls with certain rotations
>>587256805Uh oh. Is someone on a loss streak? Have you considered appropriately counterbuying your enemies? For example, if they're beating you on the ground, you could take to the air with the Chimera Mk1!
>>587249604>>587250368My problem with harrow is how she heals OUTSIDE of combat. It's counterable when youre actually in 6v6 because it's hectic she can miss shots and the target can be antihealed. But in the "neutral" part of the game they can take 95% of their hp bar and run to a cuck corner for harrow to full heal even more efficiently as they stand still due to headshot multiplication. It's giving their entire team a 5x better fortitude that's instant. How does the enemy team beat that unless they're already winning? You cant. So if harrow's team ends up with a decent lead the game is immediately over cause they will never die.
>>587256764>>587256847Boxes are fun when theyre in dangerous areas like clock tower or under neath mid. They're not fun when you have to do movement troon routes to get optimal money 3 minutes into the game.
>>587249430There is nothing lowkey about it. You should always be using rejuv to farm enemy jungle and widen the soul gap
>>587249604>/dlg/ with Paige: .........We're clearly not lurking the same general
>>587257220>>587249430You should farm for half the duration then try to force a fight. Ending the game before retards fuck it up by feeding with a 90s timer is optimal
>>587255023People are way more likely to use microphones and try for actual teamplay in ranked, which makes it much more fun for me, because I'm shit at the mechanics but good at herding cats
NEVER SHOW WINRATE, NO MATTER THE ODDS
>>587257121So Harrow gives everyone else a free fortitude (3200x5=16000). That's not such a big deal, Holliday gives everyone a free Majestic Leap (3200x6=19200)
>>587253564Having it off by default is basically griefing, but obviously mute anyone who is annoying to prevent tilting.So many russians will just make animal noises the second the game starts, so it's easy to know who to mute.
>>587257442Including the enemies so it's 0 value added actually
>>587256832Do you get the money from troopers if you leave a lane with turrets to handle things?
>Wraith says she wants to wish for "money" to keep it simple so theres no loopholes>The Patron gives her 50 million 2008 Zimbabwe dollars
Does anyone buy mystic slow without the intent to get lightning scroll? It seems like maybe the worst ingredient item aside from Improved Spirit
>>587257014>violet is fine now tooNo, that's a reddit lie. That's the same lying shit that caused Silver to be unplayable for months. She is overnerfed and can't compete now. She needs buffs. She has the lowest win rate and the lowest pick rate pick rate not only among all new heroes, but overall. She's D tier second only Mirage. Even Sinclair has higher win rate. She is not fine.
How would you make Venator fun again, hard mode: make an 6400 core item that would work for him
>>587256683>the weakest it's ever been>90% of the game's lifespan each turret has had the willpower of mecha godzilla
>>587257535completely rework his shitty ass placeholder trap ability that does nothing
>>587257694Remove Warden's cage and give it to Him
>>58725752785% winrate with me, she's fine sorry anon
>>587257671Only in braindead bricklo
>laning vs apollo + minajust blow my shit smoothe off man fuck this
>>587257694Not every ability needs to be giga busted man. All they really need to do is make it less visible, like make the purple circle black instead
>>587257825bricks own you
>>587257853In actual human elos her turrets don't do shit till 60k souls and die instantly to literally anything, you're just ass at this game.
>entire 30 minute game is decided by how braindead my lane partner isnah im not playing this any more until i feel like finding a duo or they fix how you have zero agency as a solo
>>587257525i buy it together with Stalker and Weighted Shots to slowmax
>>587257525Any character with spammable spirit damage gets a lot of use from Mystic Slow's stats and effects. I think lightning scroll is more of a gimmick item then Mystic Slow, you're paying 4800 extra for an awkward stun and some damage that is tied to the CD of an ult. Scroll also doesn't upgrade any of Mystic Slow's stats, which kind of sucks for a 4800 addon.
>>587257535infinite ammo for 6.4k
>>587257527You're a total smoothbrain if you're unable to look past winrates.She was insanely overtuned and a bunch of shitters used her to get an easy +6 ranks over the course of a couple weeks.Now she's more reasonable and all the shitters coasting off her are losing all their games because they are shit and she's not an autowin anymore.This is blindingly obvious by the fact that you only ever see two versions of her in ranked - people who use her entire kit, including slide and painting obstacles, and go 17/3 - and people who only know how to snipe with living ink and run after you with still life and go 0/12.As soon as the latter players go back to playing their normal heroes instead of trying to abuse le broken new hero, her winrate will stabilize to above 50.
>>587257525mystic slow is good on Victor and McGinnis, and they can both benefit from Lightning ScrollIt is a weird as fuck ingredient, I agree. The two items have nothing to do with each other, and I would like 6400 version of mystic slow instead that disables dashing or something.
>>587258198Midwit coded post
>>587258336Nice argument retard
>>587257525I buy it on wivy and only turn it into lightning scroll if game goes late
>>587257803Got any way to prove it? Post your match history>>587258198>She was insanely overtuned and a bunch of shitters used her to get an easy +6 ranks over the course of a couple weeks.Sorry anon, you probably didn't notice but I was talking about Violet and not Baba.
>>587258198Well, at least you've moved on from saying this about Silver insteadYou haven't fixed the thought process, but at least you've found a new target
>>587258498There's more than 1 person in this general anon. I've never complained about Silver anon, I wasn't playing during the time when she was apparently good.>>587258470Well it's also true for Baba, arguably moreso.
>>587251416That's kinda hot...
>>587258628>the time when she was apparently goodShe was good for like one week
>>587258628>Well it's also true for Baba, arguably moreso.Baba was barely touched by the nerfs, the change list looks like she was gutted when in fact she barely felt it and still the best hero in the game. And basically a guaranteed win because she also scales better into the late game.
Yoshi… the item update… ligthning scroll… spirit slopperino… help
my new rule of thumb is to never pick heroes below 50% winrate
>>587258146Please no
>>587258320>victor>lightning scrolllil nigga in big green 3 rank
>>587257535Gutshot now has chargesIra Domini now has charges
>>587258846Can we see win rates filtered by rank anywhere?>>587258903It's in the public build I've been using this patch, but I guess it's very niche. Idc, it makes his ult into even more of a teamfight autowin.Again, mystic slow is great on him for running people down and lightning scroll is a weird, awkward upgrade to that.
Couldn't sleep properly because I kept dreaming of Silver or some other shit.
>>587259207Yeh, all the stat websites have rank filtering,statlocker will even draw you a pretty graph.
>>587259207Yes you can see them on statlocker
Start buying mystic reverb and putting it on Ivy's 1
How do people even enjoy playing Calico? Her voice lines and general tone of voice are just obnoxious to listen to.
>>587259358did you cream her cookie in your dream
I bought this!
>>587259604Check out what Rem bought!
>>587258903>big green 3 rankNo idea what the fuck this is supposed to mean
>get a sick 1v2 outplay>we lose>get a sick 1v2 outplay>game is cancelled because of a leaver>get a sick enemy team wipe>we lose anywayAWOOOOOOOOOO
>>587259358>this is a bad thing for some reason
>>587258846Not only is this scrubby you are also miserable for doing it. You will never improve.
>>587259457neat, thanks dude
>>587259646i fucking love buff women but i hate how a lot of artists just draw them with 0.001% body fat (tits not included)
>>587259874you are a homosexual
>>587254759One of the few good things we could meme into the game is Maid Silver
Why do most solomon builds not have you build duration early? Imbuning duration on rooks let you rootlock people a lot easier in a lot more locations on the map
>>587257476Actually, when enemies use it, it's a free vortex web so then it is (6400x6) value
>>587259954Duration has been terminally underrated for most of the games life
How have your ranked games been with the new seasonI'm in phantom and its almost comical at how every game is decided by who has the wraith/baba/celeste on their team (mostly just wraith since she's giga popular)For once I unironically think silver is in a decent state, she's way more consistent for me than Billy. Sure your human form is the tickle monster but at least you can shit out damage in wolf or be big enough threat to make space for your teamWith billy, you're just a bullet sponge, only thing going for you is the HP. Shit just sucks to play coming from a guy who has 250+ games on him.
>>587259874Being attracted to a woman with washboard abs as a hetero guy is so fucking weird to me.>I love women, but only when they look like men!
>>587260015look anon I know you don't critically examine the world around you, but try to understand that most men don't have washboard abs, and that muscle definition is not a gendered thing no matter how warped your pop-culture addled brain may think that.
>>587259923*Caveman
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>>587260184Apollo is so lucky
>>587259358The other day I dreamt that I was on a date with HollidayI love those country accent american girls I wish I would snag one in reality...
Emotionless nursing handjob from Harrow.
>>587260328okay https://x.com/matty_vd/status/2112650068516036652
>>587248189They should give her short hair.
>>587260012I'm a shitter, but I think it'll always be hard to balance characters across different levels of play.I que with different friends who are both high above and way below me in ranks so I get to play in very varied skill levels and it's pure whiplash.>que with bricklow friend>I can just pick Yamato or Abrams and go full melee build because nobody ever fucking parries except in total panic. The entire game is just me running at anyone who doesn't have easy escape abilities and I never get punished.>que with Ritualist friend>the Billy on our team get's parried literally every single time he melees and is reduced to being a momentary distraction for the rest of us to capitalize on.I guess Ritualist is kind of that magic middle ground where players are good enough to fuck over Billy, but Billy still hasn't figured out how to deal with it, or stop playing Billy.
Venator sitting his sweaty hairy ass on my face.
Is there any reason to buy Extra Regen now that it doesn't upgrade into Healing Booster? Just grab some bats for healing
>>587260464What is it about good looking women somehow looking even better with short hair.
>>587258018The latter will never happen considering the direction Dota went with the numerous BKB nerfs so that people can just counterbuy you into the fucking ground. It's already happening in this game too. Unstoppable lasts 5.5 seconds and has a 60 second cooldown and if you have to spend 3 slots for Unstoppable, Dispel Magic AND Indomitable you're gonna fucking lose anyway.
>>587243459Dispel magic keeps Mirage honest.
>>587260015I like fit girls that don't have steroids tier abs but just a toned midsectionI know for sure that these 2 have the best tummies in the game, followed by Silver, any of the canonically physically fit female characters really
>>587260541nope, extra regen overtook tankbuster as the worst item in the game
>>587260760I'm confident that it's just her jacket being puffy but that Paradox is fucking built
>>587256985post this on forums
>>587260849this anon thinks devs read the forums outside of day 1 bug reports when a new patch drops
>>587260792>tankbuster is badqrd?
>>587255876>Victor (me) and Rem on the team
If I play super aoe hero like dynamo or Abrams, should I unironically deathball since I don't need farm as much
>>587260950I'm sure they do but they only monitor a select few topics
>>587257353>People are way more likely to use microphones and try for actual teamplay in ranked, which makes it much more fun for me, because I'm shit at the mechanics but good at herding catsTry doorman
official /dlg/ hero honesty tier list: honest:SilverVenatorBabaBillyHarrowHazeParadoxAbramsLashIvyWardendishonest:everyone else
RUN FOR YOUR YICKADEE LIVES
>>587261228Ivy lost honesty privelege when capacitor dropped
>>587260397>>587260328How old is nurse harrow? like 40s milf or full on early 60s gilf?
>>587261636On the brink of Menopause
>>587258845Lightning Scroll isn't even good outside of dedicated ultimate heroes. It just exists as Spirit spike for everyone else as they proc it with Tesla or their built in Spirit on-hit effects.
>>587260849What forums?
Anyone else only have FPS issues when McGinnis has a million turrets on the map?
>>587260687being spammed with CC is the least problematic part of agency imo, the real problem is how every objective requires you to have multiple teammates playing correctly at all places on the map you need someone to stop the ratting or do the ratting, you need your tank to not be a pussy and initiate, you need your carry to not feed 2k soul bags from jungling all gameso much shit has to go right and one retard can ruin the game
>>587261228i liked it when the black guy stole his hat
>>587261031I'm scared to. He seems really finicky.Holiday is right around where my comfort level is at. I build her long range so I can contribute to fights despite my bad movement, and her ultimate is a good playmaker.>enemy wraith pushing tier 3's alone>2 brainless retards are sitting in our base watching her do it because she outranges them and they don't know what to do.>I jump in from the side, lasso her and run towards base while screaming "KILL THIS NIGGER KILL THIS NIGGER KILL THIS NIGGER">they actually kill this nigger>we get to take midboss without Wraith destroying our base because we looked away for 10 seconds.
>>587261824No issues with McGinnis. I play her a lot and never saw a correlation. The main sinners are Celeste (maybe not in the current patch) and Violet. Rat king was a huge problem until this patch too.Generally I'm not seeing nearly as many performance issues since halloween ended
>>587261824My FPS gets cut in half only when I walk through doorman doors for some reason
>teammate that's feeding the enemy won't stop taking all of our sinners
who else practice movement here
>>587262073>my mechanics are bad>picks one of the most mechanically intensive heroed in the gameBrother, if you are genuinly worried about your mechanical skill, Abrams and Rat King are right there.
>>587262474it's too boring to tryhard that much. I remember being in my 20's doing aimlabs and trying to get gud at apex legends or whatever stupid shit I was playing then. Now I'm 34 and I just can't be arsed. I mosly play with friends who are even worse at the game than I am and I'm just going to focus on having fun. I already did the super sweaty thing back when I was 5k in dota 2 in like 2013, but I played 4 hours or more daily back then(5k wasn't even that impressive, it was like top 1% maybe)
>>587262661I like Abrams too, but I think you're overestimating Holidays' skill floor. Barrel is a braindead skill, zoom in and do headshots is an absolutely braindead playstyle. I'll freely admit I probably don't get the most use out of her bouncepads though, I just use them mindlessly anytime I need to chase or escape.
Been spamming ranked games and every single loss is because wraith is on the enemy teamHow the fuck has this shit not been hotfixed into ground, is one of the devs a wraith main or something and just wants his pet hero to be game warping OP
>>587263154LIFTING!
>>587249604Don't know what the problem with Rem is, but I agree fuck Paige. Playing against her is so annoying
>>587262474>learning quirks and bugs of Valve's physics engineSeems like a waste of time desuOn Silver too, she can't slide for shit anyway.>>587262874>Now I'm 34 and I just can't be arsed.Based, that's how it goes. Over time I stopped caring about winning or losing even, just playing to have fun, not worth getting angry over something I play on and off anyway.
i wont lie it completely destroys any motivation to play the game when every single loss is because i got a retard going 0/9 on my team making it so we are practically playing 5vs7.just that moment of having a good lane phase with a few kills, pressing Tab and seeing your teammates feeding 7 kills to the enemy wraith on the other side of the map before bridge buffs even spawned. and that happening for most of the games.
>>587263154Her winrate is 50-52 across all ranks.I dislike playing against her too, admittedly, but I lose way more games to Graves
>>587256653If it's a toon come to life or some shit like that it's ass. If it were like a virtruvian man made to resemble sketch work then that's ok.
>>587263474>just playing to have fun, not worth getting angry over something I play on and off anyway.exactly. I've always had pretty good mental game, not prone to tilting and in dota I was always the guy just trying to talk down the ragers, but it feels even more pronounced now.What gets me is the people who have a microphone, but decide not to use it unless they're flaming their teammates. They'll dive with no pings or communication and get themselves killed because their lane partner is in shop and only then will they turn voice on so they can CYKA BLYAT into everyone's ears
>>587248518>up 10k on the poor fire niggaI'd like to see this actually work while you're even
>>587248980>capacitorIsn't that a normal item given Haze is an on-hit merchant?
>>587264098yeah it is, it fell out of favour for a while.
So many uncs in here
Greater Expansion is almost never a not good buy right? I'm noticing it's ubiquitously useful for both fighting and farming/clearing.
>>587263474>On Silver too, she can't slide for shit anyway.what's wrong with silvers slide
>>587263995>Oh yeah? I b-bet you couldn't gank a squishy if you were equally strong!You understand that some assassins are supposed to hunt easy targets right anon? Why did you feel the need to protect Infernus' honor here?
>>587248518Shadow Weave builds up now, so you can't activate it and ambush straight away if you want all the bonuses. You need to activate it beforehand
>>587263472If you drew this, good on you anonTop effort
>Eat shit and feed all match>Rush Refresher>Hit one(1) five man ult>Follow up with one(1) four man ult>Win teamfight win rejuv win gameWho was I?Answer: L a s h
>>587264362I probably wouldn't get it on Venator
Rework Geist into health scaler
>were pushing hero remodels constantly every 2-3 months while still doing regular updates>suddenly stop>"oh actually we are keeping the remodels for last its not a priority"what happened
>>587264536Your Ballistic Expansion?
>>587264364She's too slow to get good range on it and she doesn't build anything to extend her sliding like Haze, for example.
>>587264362I find it to be a bit overkill in a lot of situations
>>587264598People like the models a bit too much so it's not a big deal if they're unfinished
>>587257527i don't want her to be good :3
>>587264536you will buy it on venator once yoshit enables a spirit venator trap-only build
>90% of all nurse harrow art is lesbian shitmaaaaaaan...
>>587264443why the fuck did they change shadow weave like that anyways? item was mid and barely anyone ever used it alreadythey also raped its melee usefulness for no reason
>>587264598They realized it's more important for new heroes to have finished art after the 4 hero update flopped and the 6 hero update won bigly.
>>587264778it does the same melee damage when fully charged
>>587264602So you build Greater Expansion AND Ballistic Expansion? That seems like kind of a big investment>whiff grenade>6400 souls wastedI'm not good at Venator so I might not be seeing the big picture here, but I'd rather just get gun items for those souls.
>>587264514No, unfortunately I suck at drawing. Reposting from another anon because I really like it.
>>587264819Vyper and Sinclair are fan favorites tho
>>587264598Character models and menu art are low level stuff. They're working on the big stuff like bosses and map objectives.
>>587264778anon, +50% bonus weapon damage is the same thing as +25% bonus melee damage
>>587264910Glad you did then, cause I didn't see it when it was first posted
>>587264729Sinclair and Gary Talon especially
>>587264845>>587264971huh i swear it gave 35% melee not 25%
>>587248518>30 minutes in>almost 30k souls lead>lanes aren't pushed>not even a single lane done>some faggot skin mod>this skyrim-ass stealth play worksholy self report, not sure if that's Brick or Stone but you're an absolute shitter
fuck gunslop and fuck this game
>>587251356Could be because I'm bricklow but most of my games are pretty close.
>>587264645She has pretty average movespeed, and even if she was particularly slow it would only make sliding better because more time sliding is less time walking around with slow MS.Point 2 is meaningless, most of the cast doesn't build for slide distance, that doesn't make sliding bad.
>>587264819>>587264598>Silver is "le new hero">reuses animations of Seven and Driftuh
>>587265272useless fat stupid MUTT
>>587265236>most of the cast doesn't build for slide distance, that doesn't make sliding bad.Does, actually, hence no one below Eternus bothers learning it and only uses for vaulting and ramps.
>>587265191>camping the secret shop while you see the plaza being cleared>skyrim-ass stealth playthis works all the way up to phantomstone players wouldn't even go to the secret shop to clear their haunted souls
Flopping tranny deadcock.
>>587265191>retard who would never in a million years contribute gameplay or anything else to the thread has an irrelevant opinionGreat post faggot
>>587265272Please understand our animator only wants to work on zesty niggas, silver was a marketing mandate.
>>587265432heh like your mom's
>>587255023>As long as you don't die 10 times during laneThis is better than dying 10 times after lane
>>587251356This game is the most throwy, elastic bullshit Moba I've ever seen. Half the games the clearly winning team fuck up a midboss fight or do a deathball push into base without rejuve and throw their entire advantage away. Almost any game is winnable
it's official
>>587265987Go back eceleb shilling troon
>>587265472take that rank of yours and tie it around your ankles, then you jump into a lake ;)
>>587265987
>>587264442Retardbro, the point is that there's no reason to showcase a webm of you killing a nigga you're 10k up onPosting webms should be for cool plays aka beating someone whos above you or something, not beating up kids
What is the point of this item?
what is the point of mystic reverb now that Leech also gives +30% spirit lifesteal?
>>587265272>her one new animation was given to driftah
>>587266193they wanted to add daedalus from dota 2 but forgot to make the weapons items in this game not suck
Why do I get hit by riptose if I didn't do any damage to Apollo instead it was a team mate??? Man that ability fucking sucks, just push it in bro
>>587266043Mikaels is /our guy/ tho
>>587266193To turn Holliday from ass fucker to the ass and mouth fucker
after watching for 30 seconds this mikaelS guy is clearly hacking. even when he misses every shot his mouse movements are insanely inorganic. this can't be a real player. i've never seen a player move their mouse like this in any game, not a random player, not a single streamer, youtuber, not a single pro in any shooter game. his mouse movements are weird.
>want to play>just woke up so I'd be going full autopilot
>>587266193it's like the best weapon dmg item in the entire gameand it's also a plated counter
>>587266191Your post is still up, so I can see that wasn't your point. You could have said something to the tune of "why did you bother uploading a bricklo clip" if you just wanted to be a miserable cunt and spend your time gatekeeping /dlg/ of all thingsAmazing use of your time btw
>>587265987We knew this already, Yoshi designated her a marksman in the api
am I trippin or Harrow has a potential to be a M1gger? shooting with her is weirdly fun and if you shoot a guy who has a leech on they will just melt
>>587266312just dispel it and parry him?
>>587266240geist bomb, graves ult, power slash, vexing bolt, talon arrow, carbine, pain battery, rend, consecrating grenade
Unbind your parry key
>>587266312dispel magic is a must buy every game
>>587266537>and it's also a plated counterHow do they interact?
Do you think valve will BLEACH gt like the leaks have shown or will we get an indian to match our cowboy?
>>587266809>game losing>game losing>outclassed by melee build>ok>ok>ok>game losing>game losing>game losing
>>587266930
>>587266193i always felt like it was supposed to be a boost to flat weapon damage increases (like lash's 2 buff or fixation) because i remember reading somewhere that the lucky shot buff applies after every other buff but i don't remember if that's still true
>>587266240it's always been a mediocre item and I refuse to build it even on builds where it's supposedly "good"
>enemy team always 3-4 man deathballing for me>somehow my team can't do anythingSome games aren't meant to be won
Silver is a joke character for 99% of the playerbase buff her
>>587266591nta but I'm just saying clips like that are less impressive when you're effectively max level versus a level 11 feeder. Not saying you can't post, but I'd like to see an even clip
I'm starting to like Venator's traps...
>>587267030Huh. They should put that in the item description.So that lowers the effectiveness of Plated Armor by 25%. Not bad.
>>587267359they feel good the one time per 60 minute match that you catch someone
>>587267510yeah but i mean why lower it by 25% when you can lower it by 60% with APR
>>587266682You need a fuck ton of stacks but it’s theoretically possible
>>587267632because APR is a throw pick unless you have 4 gun heroes and the enemy is hitting 50% bullet resist with 3 plated armors
>>587266682theoretically yes but every time I see someone try it they do no damage and also do no healing because they were trying to do damage. if you're a top 1% aim god you can make it work but if you're not you're going to be useless and your team will hate you
>>587267631They should probably just be invisible. They're pretty nice to help escape or block off chokes but they're probably too easy to play around past my brick games.
>>587266882Literally what was the apollo's plan
i have been actually enjoying street brawl more than regular play recently
>>587267793Plan?
imagine Silver taking your whole length in her muzzle and working that wonderful dog tongue all over your cock
>>587267793kill
What's the point of calling them placement matches if they just place you based on what your hidden standard MMR is and aren't based on performance?
>>587267778guaranteed rejuv/victor counter at every rank
>>587267793>good ol' riposte, wins every time
>Rem on our team steals all our sinners, goes pillow build and dies on repeat in the late game with a single active itemThis new season wrecked my mental to high hell, everytime its something like>Rem pillow or spirit geist player on your team>Wraith/Celeste duo on the enemy teamBeing a trve solo que warrior is hell on earth in phantom
>>587268054Sounds fair to me. Most M1 dudes get to do something illegal.
>>587264731Well that's to bad, her buffs are inevitable
>>587267963It's all weird psychological player retention bullshit anon.The rank resets at the end of seasons are also completely fake (and fucking annoying), and just exist to trick retarded kids who believe in elo hell into the "this time I'll be placed in the rank I deserve" mindset.Look at Warcraft 3 on battlenet for a game where the elo resets are actually real, because Blizzard is staffed by idiots. It's a total shitshow at the start of every season, where every good player has to play 15 boring autowin games before they can get back to real matches, and all bad players have to suffer through a bunch of stomps.
>>587267827Street Brawl is ARAM of Deadlock. Made specifically for Americans, women, and other people who lack mental capacity for macro.
>>587267963They're only meaningful for outliers, if you have a suspected smurf stomp their placements they'll get kicked up much higher while some 30% WR shield ghoul will fall further.If you already have fairly normal performance metrics they're basically cosmetic.
>>587268481That's just normal Rem activity7 out of 10 times when you see a Rem it's an elo terrorist
>>587266809>>587267027i like it on danny dive but it's probably way more of a funny item than a legitimately good item in that regard
>>587267157It is calculated separately so when you already have +150% weapon damage its basically +75%
>>587266934Keep the haircut and make his features more maculine (he looks way too soft and pudgy). Completely change his outfit, arm, bow and animations.
Today, I face against the mightyAnd make them kneel.
>remove the hot women
>>587269709>he looks way too soft and pudgyhe's old, his face is masculine just haggard.
>>587270090I never want to meet the kind of man who thinks graves and vindicta are attractive
>>587269931>Fine as is>Throwpick Silver
>>587270275a straight one?
>>587266934come to think of it there is literally nothing in GTs lore about him being an alcoholic or owning a casino
>>587269931Violet's ult does nothing after the nerfsShe basically has no ult.
>>587269931What makes Venetor and Infernus broken?
>>587245743>>587247440Oops I posted in the old thread but I installed last week and there's one of you bitching in every match, and honestly even with my limited knowledge I can tell that most of you were retarded.>Abrahms on our team was pretty fed went down the middle of blue lane where three people were >Graves was following behind>me Ivy was following behind >They started focusing graves from a range before she was even close to the Abrahms>She's almost dead>I ult to bring her back to base real quick>Abrahms died >Graves thanks me>Abrahms crashes out>"WUH WHY DIDN'T WE PUSH THATT!! I'M SO OP WE CAN KILL THEM! THIS TEAM SUCKS!! YOU'RE UNCARRYABLE."I think he believes everyone has a "not die" button like him.
>>587270513That's problematic She needs a new non-aoeslop ult
>>587270275You're gay
>>587270639too strong
>>587266591blud really thought he was hot shit killing a dude 10k souls below himprolly all giddy going OMG CLIP THAT CLIP THAT when he did it toostarts broiling when made fun of passive aggressive sissy with his "a-a-a-amazing use of your time btw..." can't even call someone a nigger like a real person
Are we still pretending character winrates means anything outside of extreme deviation?
>>587270660Realistically what could they do?If they make it so she can draw the path for the ult people will complain.If they keep tweaking numbers people will complainIf they come up with something new and cool people will complain and the new ult will be nerfed and will be useless againThe real problem here is reactionary nerfs based on nothing but people that don't even play the character complaining
>>587270957"Are we still pretending we can use this thing for evidence against characters other than the ones I don't like?"
>>587269931>problematicfaggot
Should they just scrap the shop entirely at this point and start over
>>587270991You're right let's just leave her ult weak not every character needs a strong ult
>>587270957Win rate alone doesn't mean much. Win rate + pick rate + ban rate? Now that's a tangible telemetry
>enemy Wraith and Haze do nothing but run non-stop any time they're remotely in danger>their stats are padded and they are absolutely worthless because they actively refuse to commit to anything>me, Rat King and Ivy just run them down every single fight-- with the occasionally good ult from Lash-- and once they bail (because we know they absolutely will not pop their head out at all without their free escape off cooldown because they are the absolute biggest pussies on the planet) we just turn back around and kill the rest of their team and rape their base for a clean sweep into a winPeople who play like this need to be castrated IRL. I don't care what team they're on. Biggest fucking rat-nigger cowards to ever fucking exist just so they can piss and whine about 'no team' while playing with the most cowardly builds I have ever fucking seen like Dispel Magic AND Cheat Death in the same build on Wraith while doing nothing but spamming cards and otherwise tickling people with her bullets. 78k souls and 54k damage for what? Your team didn't even outright feed, you played like a bitch that didn't have the capacity to actually carry the game and lost for it. What drives people to fucking play like this?
>>587270957Wraith should have a 60%+ winrate but yeah its generally a non-factor. For example if a hero has a high playrate then its less relevant since you have every boosted retard and their dog playing themAt least with a 10-20% pickrate you can assume its mostly one tricks or specialists. If a specialist can't perform well then something has gone wrong
>>587270275>conventionally attractive girl>EWW GROSSwhat do you like then?
Did you know Violet can draw solid blocks of paint? What's the point? Idk
>>587268847>while some 30% WR shield ghoul will fall furtherexplain me then >>587256985
>>587271192Actual hot chicks like silver or geist
>Hey, playing Deadlock?>Yeah, this match is almost over.>Cool, put a stream up.>Uh, oops, my game crashed.Is this you?
>>587269475wait what?It's double damage calculated AFTER all your gun damage buffs? Okay it's actually decent then. I was going to ask if it wasn't just flat out worse than glass cannon, but it's actually good when you're already stacked.Man I wish they would fix the item descriptions so people didn't have to read wikis for this bullshit
>>587271119That's quite a projection on your part.I'm just saying that if a character has 40-60% winrate idc, it doesn't mean shit.But if one day a character comes in with 90%, i'd say the numbers are unusual enough to infer there's also something unusual about that character.
>>587271192conventionally attractive canine girls (not anthro) are better
>>587256985you are the person throwing my games thanks
>>58726032810 hours Nurse Harrow ASMR with dirty talk and blowjob sounds.
Can't make a team more cancerous than this.
>>587271640they could have a wraith and baba
>>587271213>What's the point? Idkthe easiest means of freezing trooper wavesblocking small doorways mid-escape to slow down anyone chasing youblocking LoS abilitiesyou can chain wall jumps off it if you're autisticdrawing dicks in the sky after dropping patron
How do they balance baba without making her weak? Is it really just to do with spirit damage nerfing? What if she got a bullet+damage resist buff so she could get in there with the melee and not melt, but not nerf everyone's damage? I really like the feel of her kit.
If we were to remove the retarded Rem players (team sinner stealer, bag thrower etc) would his winrate be better or is he simply an useless character?
>>587269931What's wrong with Haze and Ratking ult? At least you can dodge them.Lash is pretty fucking annoying. Counterspell really is the mandatory bkb tax of deadlock because of shit like that
>>587271640Replace Mina with Baba. Replace Bebop with Wraith. Instantly twice as cancerous. Bebop is a non-factor.>goes bomb>just buy Dispel Magic>specs into beam>just buy KnockdownAnd Baba is just more AIDS than Mina will ever be.
Deadlock should not have been a shooterslop game.
>>587271150She basically already has only one ability which is solid.Her build variety also sucks ass.
>>587269931upside down list kill yourself nigga
>>587271774You wouldn't say "a useless" because the word useless starts with a Y sound. It's pronounced you-sless.The usage of the word an is determined by the vowel sound, not the spelling of the word.
>>587271640I definitely can, not enough AoE slop or retarded characters.Replace Mina and Paige, by Wraith/Seven/Harrow/Lash/Baba, characters that autowins brool.
>>587270894I'm not the guy who posted the clip you fucking retard. Do you have 0 reading comprehension?
>>587271221I'm talking about pre-placement performance, if someone was significantly over or underperforming their rank BEFORE their placements then they'd be moved further.My best guess for your problem is the algo struggles to handle returning, rank-decayed players and it spazzed out and put you out of your depth.Sucks but doesn't have much to do with >>587267963
>>587271921*You wouldn't say "an useless"See, it even autocorrected for me
>>587271640Needs one more new character
>>587271610Just one voiceline of Nurse Harrow saying "good boy" in any context would fix me.
>>587271921Ok but answer the question
>>587271774As a Rem who only takes enemy sinners and avoids moving above ground whenever I am on the enemy side of the map (meaning no bag throws) I can tell you with certainty it would only go up a few percent. You'd still get retards going pillow build just to feed even if they don't ever have a bag to give away and people who just play like shit in general on him because he's not braindead like Paige with dragons of infinite waveclear, 500+ health shields that can be applied to multiple teammates per cooldown AND having fat gun steroids with said shield and retard proof CC swords. Any support that isn't as retard proof as Paige will always have sub par winrates because 90% of support players are incompetent retards.
>>587271479>90% winrate is his threshold for when something is imbaBro if something's above 53% it's sus, if it's above 55% it's disgusting, if it's above 56% it's cancerYes this includes the obvious stratification of accounting for only reasonably high ranked play
has the reverse bunny suit Graves mod been fixed yet
>>587271559I'm apparently being forced into games with people 12 ranks below me, how the fuck am I the one throwing?
so when are they fixing this screen wide aoe spell spam?game unironically needs mana
>>587270513That's the definition of problematic
YEAH I PLAY GRAVES
>>587272307because you fucking suck
>>587272350But Graves is jewish
>>587272491Is she circumcised?
How is Danny not nerfed yet
>>587270957>these repliesHoly shit the mental gymnastics in these replies WINNING IS THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS THAT IS THE POINT OF THE GAMEYou guys are seriously over complicating this simple fact
Infernus SUCKS but I like how his flame aura makes it look like he has claws
complety forgot that buyback is a thing in dota, imagine if that was in deadlock
>>587272536Her pussy is backwards.
I think it's funny watching people once again run in to the old AD vs AP balance split with gun vs spirit and just not understand how miserable it would be if gun was as good as spirit
>>587272842Like anyone in this general would even notice
>>587272851>just not understand how miserable it would be if gun was as good as spiritThis.
>>587272851but gun is more overpowered than spirit and has been that way for months
Melee Infernus is viable with Napalm damage amp
>>587271640Most upsetting team comp I've fought>Rat King>Harrow>Paige>Danny>Victor>Apollo
>>587273108I love that you have the total confidence to just say shit like this
Remove>wraith>haze>seven>infernus>warden>venator>vyper>grey talon>vindicta>mirageNerf>holliday>paradox>shiv>giest>victor>pocket>dannyBuff>mo & krill>paige>kelvin>dyanmo>harrow>rem
>>587272614Lmfao, brainlets like you are the reason why they bother putting shit like "9/10 doctors recommend this product" in commercials.
can we remove the mo burrow tier resistances kelvin gets when he presses 2
Emissaries keep banning Violet for some reason, and subsequently bringing this on themselves
>>587273785>can we nerf one of the weakest characters in the game/dlg/
we really need that item overhaulI think half the problems with the game right now come from items being fucked up. half the characters in the game have identical builds.
i feel like Baba was made for a shop rework that's months away where you get more options for a gun pivot
>>587270639girth
This game's itemization is confusing. A lot of items do very similar things, like Metal Skin & Disarming Hex. They both cost the same and are meant to counter gun characters, so when should I buy one over the other? item investment spikes?
>>587273686Is it difficult to breath up there on mount midwit
>>587274026>enemy haze bought cursedisarming>enemy haze bought unstopmetal skin>enemy haze bought bothgg
>>587272350What actual Graves would think about this: Who? Hiltler? He LOST? Ew, get away from me, loser. Yuk.
>our team somehow won
FUCKING WRAITHEVERY SINGLE GAMECAN'T DO SHIT AGAINST HER TILL 6 AND THEN IF SHE'S NOT A RETARD SHE JUST ULTS AND RUNS AWAYFIVE MINUTES LATER SHE SPIKES AND CAN LITERALLY PISS ON HER KEYBOARD TO KILL YOU AND WILL NOT FALL OFF FOR THE REST OF THE GAME
>>587273959>Zero deathsProbably thanks to Harrow but still, such an honest character
I know this game is well balanced because people will call every single character an unfair dishonest nigger character. If everyone is busted then it's a fair game.
I've been begging for team fortress 3 all these years....little did i know...it was right here all along...
>19800 souls worth of items in a single ability
>>587274447LIFTING!!!I've played like 20 games of the new season and every single loss besides one had a wraith on the enemy teamShe's been game breaking OP since the march patch
>RAPE RAPE RAPE>I LOVE TO RAPEI just returned from a long deadlock vacation. Is Celeste's still like this? I feel they haven't overtuned her enough.
>>587275072her best items got nerfed and she directly got nerfed in the last patch
Isn't it fun how Danny gets Abrams ult as a fun side mechanic? I love that
are these three the god tier whores of deadlock?
>>587275184Fucking finally
https://x.com/SouljahAsh/status/2112738811474227509yeah when even geist's eternus player builds (oses and crayon) went to pure bomb builds that's the sign that something is fucked with gun in this game right now and not just the items
>>587275386None matches the notoriety of Baba.
>twitter link>ecelebslopShant be opening
>>587275386I don't see abrams in that picture
why m1ggers are like this? KEKARO
>>587275328Brick post holy shit lmao
today i learned that paradox carbine does in fact not pierce through units
So tired of eternal gun meta.
>wraith on enemy team>melts anyone on her path in milisseconds>can't leave her alone for 1 second otherwise all our walker are gone>have to sacrifice two slots for slow and disarm (despite the fact this utterly ruins my tempo and build)>no one else buys actives>she can just wait the effect out and rape everyone anywaysJust counterbuy broJust counterbuyIt's your job to baby sit the entire enemy teamJust counterbuy broYour team is free to follow their L-R guide with zero regards to the game state
So tired of eternal CCslop meta
>every single game is a fucking stompBRAVO ICEFRAUDdidn't this get fixed in dota fucking ages ago
>>587275427its funny that even mouth breathing fathers of downies can understand the concept of leading shots in battlefield. Now a bunch of they/them queers on twitter and 4chan can't even grasp this concept. You can't make this shit up
I DON'T MISS
>>587276123>Bebop>leading shotshttps://deadlock.wiki/Bebop#Weapon>Fires a continuous beam with no bullet travel>no bullet travelYour response?
>>587276331I accept your concession saar.
>>587275386I don't see Ava there
>>587276331he doesn't have infinite fire rate, the beam can not hit something if its between firing ticks
what character (other than doorman he's already my main) should i play if i enjoy being an annoying splitpusher + farm stealer + general nuisance
>>587276331RETARD ALERT RETARD ALERT RETARD ALERTRETARD ALERTRETARD ALERT
If you buy gun on danny you are a moron
>>587275427the problem with bomb geist is that other characters like Paige do the "ground based AoE slop spam" role better
>>587276530Apollo seems to make people very upset
>>587275427>>587276331Holy shit can you just fuck off already?
>>587276530How have you not picked up /ourguy/ yet?
These are the characters I have played so far (in actual standard matches) and my thoughts on them. Point out my delusions and also recommend who I should try next.>IvyReally good lane, gets much better late game if you follow teammates like a puppy dog. Pretty fun but most of her gameplay feels like playing super safe and pussy.>BabaTerrible early game, really fun late game. It does feel like by the time you get to the point where you are dangerous the game is pretty much over. I do randomly daydream about using her 1 ability because it's such a unique and satisfying attack.>MoI played two matches and he feels meh. He's supposed to be a brawler but the heals he gets from his self heal ability is really not sufficient so he can only accomplish anything with multiple teammates, or with a carry that could kill the enemy alone anyway.>RatJust chuck stuff while standing at objective and sometimes plant the flag while standing at objective. He seems pretty effective at what he does but kinda boring.>WardenSeems like a teamfighter. I don't see how his three helps him alone at all. He's nice to have in a teamfight but playing the rest of the game as him is just boring.
Thoughts on giving heavy melee and parry a stamina cost per use? Make heavy melee do more damage and parry stun longer, make light melee unparriable and leave damage the same, make a succesful parry refund stamina. Maybe add a dash heavy punch something like dash jump, where if you time it right, you only consume the 1 stam and the punch animation is faster?Idk, just think melee could be more complex if we are going to have items and characters designed around it.
>>587276530Billy. Seen his ass backdoor and solo patrons because he just tanks it even and eats attention.
>>587277060never post this again
>587276331And the most retarded post ITT award goes to...
>>587277060>make light melee unparriableDo you have ANY idea how much this buffs Billy
>>587277443Billy is unplayable booty butt ass right now so
>people complain non-stop about Pillow Rem players being shit and just stealing the ally's sinners just to feed the bag away to the enemies>decide to play Pillow Rem ti see if the build is just bad or if the players are just retarded>it is in fact just retarded players evidently>I get to nuke people, neuter their fire rate, slow them to a crawl AND I still heal over half my ally's HP bar with just Healing Tempo despite going full damageShit this is way more useful than my usual full support build, god damn.
>>587275386Baba was definitely whore #1 in her youth
>>587277528NTA but that's a good thing.
You should build full spirit drifter, you're gonna be doing big gun damage lategame anyway
>>587277564>everyone got 10k+ over enemy team>even SilverJust got lucky with the team.
>>587275072Yep Little boys in particular.
New to the game and just discovered how OP boxes are after a few games. ngl, game feels super fun except for box farming crap now that I discovered how boring being efficient is. Do the devs have any plans to remove this garbage? Like everything is so great but apparently if you run circles in the street doing fucking nothing, not even farming camps, you outscale everyone and trivialize the game. Least is there any character I can pick up who never cares to do this shit?
Would the spirit meta be solved if we killed escalating exposure?
>>587277716The damage was still good though. And the healing was still stronger than the support build by virtue of healing over half my teammate's HP bars with each use of it. So I was still supporting anyway. Probably would have replaced Healbane with Knockdown or something if I needed to.
>>587277867bait
>>587277942a few characters would be heavily nerfed (infernus first 10% winrate hero?) but it won't outright solve anything
>>587277942You solve it by reworking Gun.https://www.reddit.com/r/DeadlockTheGame/comments/1xrr3da/its_about_time_we_got_a_gun_rework_so_i_came_up/
>>587277528Billy is one of the best frontliners in the game lil bricklo
Abrams is the only viable melee character right now because he ignores the parry mechanic entirely by stunning people for free heavies. Billy sucks because he doesn't have a stun to stop people from spamming their parry key
>>587277942No. Escalating Exposure is a powerful item but just a symptom. It's much more fundamental like how spirit items affect all items and abilities while gun is just a linear increase. Gun items need to have a thorough effect on attacking overall.
My damage was very solid on this one with only two damaging items, is that how it goes on Silver?
>>587278215Fuck no. No reworks. Remove gunslop from the game.
>>587278279My simple solution is to play bot matches on BillyIt's what I've been doing... I still get parried
>they remove mid-game commends because it was ''toxic''>they add pinging your own dead teammates and pinging their items all with voicelineslol?
>>587276931You're cute. You should play Rem.
>>587277981Not even bait, genuine post because I find it very very hard to believe people actually like that part of the game.
>>587278263lollmao
>>587254604>I don't see her as much in fanart as the other fourhoyl newfag
>>587278215This completely misses the actual "problem" with gun. Guns are more easily available than abilities. Abilities have cooldowns and generally take more time to activate, while a gun is as simple as clicking the left mouse button. Of half the characters in the game were building gun, half the cast would just be deleting your health with minimal interaction and minimal mechanical knowledge. Guns being more niche than spirit is just a necessity, like how AD characters are more rare than AP characters. Trying to make gun items more "fun" and "unique" just means the guy clicking your head is doing it more quirkily and doesn't answer the fundamental problem of gun damage being the easiest thing in the game to access
>>587278435Check out what Drifter bought!
>>587279137>it's easier to click than to press 1>guns don't have a cooldown (reload doesn't count)This is your argument? Really?
>>587279137>mobatard mindbroken by basic shooter concepts once again
>>587279137post your headshot rate
>>587279137Anon abilities overwhelmingly play themselves with little to no aiming or timing
>>587279237>it's easier to click than to press 1Fundamentally yes>guns don't have a cooldown (reload doesn't count)You have an entire clip of ammo and reloading is always much quicker than the average ability cool down
>>587279237>>587279340m1ggers be likeshiet bruh fr fr i be styling on these fools*press 3**hold m1**spam 1*damn imma fucking spirit nuker up in this bitchthey better finna be reworking gun tho caus this shit aint got the sauce nahmean?
>>587278435I'm still mad they did that, it was fun.
Gunslop and m1gger players are going to kill this game.
just pull the plug doc
>>587279479IMO the game would be more fun and engaging if the guns randomly jammed for 10-15 seconds so that spirit players don't get gunned down by Haze so much.
>>587278435>>587279650>tfw can't spam wp in chat anymore
>I bought this! is objectively the funniest voiceline in the game though
>>587279769That's not your real opinion, that's some retardation you made up
i had a game where i actually did well by some miracle
>>587279884mogged by every single one of thesehttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/voicelines/?quick=has%20toys
>>587276931You sound like you would really like Bebop if you tried him.
>>587275761You know I'm right.
>>587279884https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/voicelines/?voiceline=lash%2Fping%2Flash_ping_bebop_check_items.mp3
STONE FORM
This game takes place in NYC where is the landshark?
>>587279137the guys replying to you are probably the same guys who think hitscan characters are the pinnacle of skill in hero shooters
extremely honest and ethical character
street brawl is a serious game mode
guys look my game has a lot of mods give me some attention
>>587280952Loan Shark an anthro shark wearing a scumbag business suit would be a soulful character.
>>587281070Funniest thing is they can't nerf her because they'll have to either nerf the items or completely rework her gun
Arcane Surge works really well hitting breakpoints for Tankbuster on Silver
>>587280402I will try him
>>587281070nigga you're up on souls like more than 15kOf course it's a stomp
>>587281121one of my friends is trying this gimmick with me currently
>victor can just walk at objective and die three times till he kills itbut why
>>587281107This is more about Danny than it is about Street Ball.
post them roster's
>>587281791danny is a fair and balanced character
>>587281070>up an extreme amount of souls>is surprised his character just rapes peopleRetard? Also shit taste in mods.
>>587281593He is a pos3 split pusher.
>>587279728>it's a stack that always walk togetherwhy is standard like this
>>587281070Your skins are cringe and you should be ashamed.
How do you repair account standings?Im at the point where im being put into low priority because I had the audacity to take a piss while waiting for respawn.Is it really solely tied to commendations?I cant even be told to "play nice" because all it takes is 2 guys playing together to report me for literally anything to shove me into low prio.You would think with how rich valve is that they'd put more thought into moderating.
>Lady Geist's Life Drain now roots people for the duration of the drainthoughts /dlg/? with this at least bomb geist build now makes sense
>>587282462you don't get punished for a single match and party reports count as onejust stop being an annoying shitter!
can someone explain to me what to do with assassins like mina and drifter if no one is ever alone or low health? I roam and roam and i can never find a suitable prey. Shit is boring af
>>587281887Does this count?
>>587282596>extremely wrong opiniondiscarded and hiddenNEXT!
Does cumming in the shower clog your drain?
>>587282683yep, you deserve the low prio
>>587282768it should rot away on it's own if you don't do it multiple times a day ever dayand even then drain cleaners exist
>>587279728>queue again>get the same people
>>587283043So it's not my fault?
How does Israel of Deadlock universe look like? Does Fairfax Industries supply them with arms?
>game takes place in the 40s>no Average Joe hero
>>587283215i'd sooner blame it on your pubes/hair or if you're living with a woman it's 100% her fault
>>587281070Your skins are cool and you should feel good about yourself.
>>587281593He's based.
>>587283367Well No sex until she cleans it up!
>>587283353Dynamo is the closestGuess he's also a dying star/black hole
>>587283439you tell her
>>587283353Trapper in the next 6 hero drop trust
>>587283574What the fuck do you mean>next 6Feels like we have a big enough roster for now, no?
Does one Rem helper take all three sinner's in bell tower, or just the two that are next to each other?
>>587211664>>587212389Is it this mod? The hair looks differenthttps://gamebanana.com/mods/696039
>>587283278Israel didn't even exist until the late 40s.
>>587283501It's so good having an transgender asian tradwife
>>587283680No, there's room for at least 6 more and some kit reworks
>>587275386didn't the guy who made this get bullied out of xitter?
>>587283278There are no jews in deadlock
>>587283820you can't marry yourself
they need to add a surrender to this, i know Valve are hyperniggers when it comes to this shit but unironically what are you supposed to do when both other lanes go 0/10 in the 1st 10 min, i cant go afk for 1 min to go have a shit without risking Yoshi screaming "NO SHITS ALLOWED" and banning my ass but im expected to be locked in and doing something for 30 min whilst my team feed their brains out non stop and avoid every objective like its radioactive, cant they just put a big glowing sign over street brawl saying "if you just want to fight play this".
>>587282646Surprisingly adequate for most of them. Except Graves I suppose.
>>587271809>haze gets a free kill with her ult and no counterplay under the right setup of slowing hex + some attack speed items>what's wrong with her ultIt's kind of retarded that she only scales off of attack speed. Without actually needing to build any on hit. It's like Old Omni-Slash, which was widely considered some unfair bullshit BUT because everyone knew it was bullshit few people let you meme on them with it
why can you still pause when rejuv crystals are droppingyou just instantly pause when a lash ults and then warn your team to use their unstops/counterspells
>>587284231Before the Nov 4 patch I would say no because I've had so many losing games that me and my team managed to turn around and come back.But after that patch it all snowballs one way or the other so now I'm not sure, I'd probably welcome it in a current meta
>>587281070ywnbaw
>>587283795Balfour Declaration was made in 1917 and Israel was established proper in 1948. Deadlock takes place in 1949, so Israel has just become an internationally recognized country and would be wrangling the surrounding arab nation into armistice agreements.
Is this the hardest an anon has been BTFO'd in /dlg/ history? >587276331KWABOTY
>>587285064>>>/pw/
>>587281070>respawn>Abrams and Mina each gets one melee in>the entire team then proceeds to whiff every single shot against a character that has no mobility options besides stamina>Mina just shoots you instead of flying away, dies>Abrams catches you against a wall and has you dead to rights>Venator does NOTHING>Abrams charges right into the wall that was erected behind him several seconds earlier, dies>Venator finally starts to actually shoot you but at this point it's a 1v1 against a player with over twice his net worth>whiffs a guaranteed gutshot melee somehowWas this against fucking bots? Every single enemy player in this webm is a colossal retard.
>>587285124Learn to lead your shots saar.
100h in the game and i still cannot win a single lane as mina or drifter and still cannot dive under tower to execute 1 hp people without dying. Why am i so trash?
>>587285321you already posted this
>>587284678had a game earlier today with a Paradox that went 0/19 over half a hour and when the game ended the opposing lane literally thanked him.
>>587285396and i don't get answers
>>587284231>they need to add a surrender to thisNo, fuck off
>>587284678she should take it out on me instead...
Genuinely cogitating uninstalling the game. Why isn't there a solo queue?
>>587263995I mean, I don't think I'd be so eager for it if I was behind. Isn't a strategy like this optimal to capitalise on a lead? That's me told
>>587277978>The damage was still good thoughDamage padding sorry niggerYou win more games consistently by actually buying active items and not being a worthless nigger who insta dies after throwing his pillowRem with curse + filled out active slots > feeding retard who steals all your farm to die on repeat to late game oneshots so he can boast about his epic damage numberIts the geist bomb shit of support
>>587284231The game just goes too long after it's already lost. You know it's lost, the enemy knows they won, and you have to sit there for 30+ minutes anyway.I'm all for trying to come back but there are so many games where it's just never ever ever ever going to happen. Waste my fucking life sitting and waiting for shit games to end.
Any violet combos i should know?
i need to find a funny way to unstick hero myself irl
Is dynamo like a duo character or something. The start sucks until you get level 5 slime wave thing then you can do stuff with your ult at the end of the game but in alot of teams everyone is afraid to take advantage of it
Consume the Viscous chalice
>>587286321he is not a carry yes
>>587277564I still think curse and divine barrier would be better than spirit burn and reverb. But I know how it is in solo queue if you expect your team to deal the damage for you.
>play abrams>pick one person to dive for no matter what>play doorman>pick one person to ult for the entire game no matter whatWho else is a good character to play if I want to go for 1 person for the entire game? It's fun because I know they're getting tilted as fuck.
they should add the Grifter
>>587285741>dying on repeat to late game one shotsThat happens if the Rem player is bad even if they go full actives and won't ever make good use of them, so your rebuttal isn't a particularly valid one
>>587286321he is a support-type characterearly game you can have a lot of impact with stomp and gun but after a bit your damage starts to become cosmetic and your utility becomes the dominant feature (note: quantum entanglement can grab allies with its alt-cast, and this includes through floors/walls)his ult is one of the strongest in the game, if you make a comm or telegraph it with pings hard enough or show up to fights your team is already taking, you can easily get multiple kills out of itin soloq the latter is the easiest. lash wants to do the same mostly, which is look to surprise enemies who are grouped and distracted. dynamo's is unreactable if done right though
>>587286321wtf is the slime wave?
>>587277595You think she is more the elegant seductive type like Geist or a rampant tramp like Celeste?
Overwatch and Marvel Rivals did irreversable damage to the competitive shooting communityThese teammates are actually the dumbest niggers I have ever seen. And I just won a game. It's just the constant feeling of seeing these self-centered dopamine driven chimpanzees run off to watch number-go-up when a Walker or Mid-Boss is open. It's the constant reoccuring moments. The mind-breaking subtleties of watching some retard make 5 mistakes a minute, and knowing you're stuck with him for FORTY MINUTES.The feeling of hearing some retarded Haze blame his team because his KDR is high, on the character designed to get kills. Zero sense of positional awareness, no idea what "macro" even meansThe feeling of watching a Rem walk around and hit 3 on every single Sinners, putting his own team behind, as he smugly complains about his teammates doing nothingIt'sThe feelingThis game isMy fucking nightmare
>mystic reverbtalon, bebop>crushing fistsabrams, billy>spirit rendmina, infernus>express shotshiv, paradox>lightning scrollseven, graves>fury trancehaze, drifter>majestic leappocket, viscous, lash>lifestrikeabrams, billy>diviners kevlarsinclair, mirage, dynamoI hope the item rework update addresses certain items only being non-grief buys on 2-3 heroes max, these are just a couple examples
Yoshi should give me more active slots
>>587288019Diviners is good on ivy
>>587288087im sure it is buddy*reports you for griefing*
Thank you for inventing matchmaking algorithmsYou are a spiritual terroristI get rewarded for doing good by having these people on my team
>>587288248Oh no, it's retarded... *ivy ults you under walker*
>>587251373>gutshot is not a flank ability ???
>>587287985>IT'S OVERWATCH AND RIVALS' FAULT!>IT'S TOTALLY NOT VALVE'S FAULT FOR MAKING A HERO SHOOTER MOBA!Battleborn failed for a reason.
>>587288019>reverbyamato, lash, paradox, talon, bebop, sinclair, geist, rem, kelvin>crushing fistsdrifter, viscous, venator, abrams, billynot replying to the rest just know you're retarded
what's going on here /dlg/?
>>587288019majestic leap is still taking balance reparations from 4 lane and is never allowed to be powerful
>>587289042except it only got nerfed after 3 lanes
>>587254097>broke 300k and managed to keep 200k dailyCNS was successful, the community is just full of meta fags who drop heroes over nerfs
>>587288985she's pegging your buss
>>587288739Because it attracted the speds that belong in the special needs games like Rivals and Overwatch instead of actual MOBA players. So it's still Rivals and OW's fault for conditioning people to play this way and frying their brains like Tiktok does.
>>587288070This, healing right is fucking great and I hate ditching it just because I run out of active slots.
>>587289354>actual MOBA playersARAM existed for a reason.
>>587257694power budget, he doesn't need a strong 3rd ability
Until the retards at Valve can figure out how to stop deathballers from winning every single game, they need to just ban these retards to cut their egos in half.
>>587287985Very true but is there really another option? Dota and League are dead in NA cause all the NA players are brown speds like the ones you mentioned that only wanna play brainless slop like Rivals and OW.
>>587289407>he still buys lane healing items
>>587287559he means the stomp
another match where i'm bottom scorer as minai really don't understand this game
>>587288765>my venator/drifter buys crushing fists>my geist/rem/kelvin buys reverbi sell my items and afk
>counterspell danny ult on reaction>see the bubble around my character as it goes off anywayscool hero
>>587289580yeah? It gives movespeed.
going afk, there is no point if i'm already 5 levels behind at 15 minutes
>>587289426Just for retarded trannies and autists to seethe harder about it than people in Ranked do cause they're all braindead retards who want a competitive game but not having to actually LEARN the game.
Nova should be a 4800 item that suppresses antiheal over it's duration.As it stands it's an "only buy this on ivy or you're throwing" item because if your team takes damage in a fight they're going to be under 3 different antiheal effects. Rescue beam outclasses it for everyone, and ignoring antiheal for a few seconds still wouldn't be as strong as being lifted out of danger from a mile away.
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>>587266193give passive bonus damage to heroes without a passive bonus damage ability
da baxtuh society has yo numbuh
>>587290085Everyone hates you, Shiv
>>587288019Yamato and Viscous can both buy Crushing Fists. Yamato also buys Lifestrike. Paradox can buy Mystic Reverb.
Why is there an echo shard viscous in every single one of my normal games? Did some streamer play it or something?
>>587254743link? have an alt acc I want ranked for
>try to confirm lasthit>my bullets fly straight through it>Denied!holy fuck can they use a netcode that isn't from fucking 1980
Can I play Rat King like a Tanky Support? Not doing damage but soaking up damage instead?
It's crazy that Mirage hasn't been fun to play for a single day since his introduction but he's kept as is because he's viable in some gay esportsfag tournament. If it's not fun why bother?
>>587289773i swear someone shot the servers because last night my games were awfulparries going through when they shouldn't, abilities not going off after i clearly used them, it was so bad and happening a couple times every game
This is like my 10th game, is this baba character the strongest in the game or something?
>>587290592thats the whole point?
>>587290596There's a tiny population of mobafags who love him because of "muh macro" (ignoring the fact that Ivy and Doorman can do the same thing but better and more fun)
>>587290709oh
>>587290683Yes actually
>>587290596using tornado aggressively with a teammate to capitalize on it is funwatching someone shit their pants and explode from getting full djinns mark on them is funglobal teleport can be fun but I wish they leaned in more on the bodyguard anglebeetles suck
>>587290746Can people in ranked deal with stomping spam?
>>587289773>>587290471>>587290647Try upgrading your connection, Rajesh.
Harrow is stupid. It's not even her ult at this point, just the healing and 2.
>>587290864You can parry the stomp, it's actually the weakest part of her kit No, you're not expected to figure that out without someone telling you The reason she's broken is because she's the anti spirit character in a game where 90% of the roster builds spirit
I know the stun thing on bebop does no damage but it causes me emotional damage
>>587289354Because it's not just a fucking moba you retardWhy would Valve make a competitor to their own game by just making the same thing??Deadlock is one other evolution of the moba genre just like hero shooters have, but more directly and like it or not it heavily borrows from both the moba and hero shooter genres
>spellslinger still bugged
>>587291152how?
>>587271737remove or retool one of her long leg resists, making threadsap a bit harder to hit (it has a massive hitbox), that's about it. her winrate will be inflated because everyone just mashes on spirit heroes
>>587291152By being fucking overpowered, like every other m1gger item in the game?
>>587291280Half the abilities in the game just don't proc it for one reason or another. The one I'm currently upset about being haze's smokebomb
>>587291076Bebop has no stun
>>587291413>>587291413>>587291413
why do they sell rifts as comeback mechanics? it feels like they have 0 effect on the game
>>587291395works on my machine
>>587291774it doesn't in an actual match
>>587291941sounds like cope
>>587257535upgrade to express shot that builds up a powerful charged shot depending on how long you waited to shoot. it works on his ult
>>587290738to be fair, he's clearly meant more to played like a carry, it's just ivy is overtuned and does everything he wants to do but better
>>587288458thats an actual bug you fucking troglodyte
>>587252029Fu Manchu Spy
>>587280402He's fun
>>587295426Knew he was what you were looking for. Nice.
>>587276530Sinclair. If you know what you are doing he is one of the most annoying characters that the enemy will be dealing with. Too bad he really is hard and they nerfed the shit out of bolts 3 shotting the walker.
>>587285683No you're completely right, but it's just a lot less cool to kill a defenseless puppy even if it's optimal