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FUCK ELECTROSPHERE ALL MY NIGGAS HATE ELECTROSPHERE
>>587254928You seem upset
>>587254945>t.
Remember Baxter!
>>587254971I mean, it's so bad! If they only gave F-16 two specials that'd still be an improvement because at least you'd start with QAAM instead of a joke weapon. 2AAM is worse than nothing.
>>587255017GOOD KILL
I've never touched MP since the game came out.Am I missing out?
Kate is made for tying up and being tickled ruthlessly
Give me Forneus or give me death.
>>587255454Not really. Its in a pretty awful state right now and unless you started week 1 you're just going to get farmed by people who did and theres currently a well known cheating turdworlder who's making every lobby unplayable.
>>587255454There are some flaws, but kicking alicorn/arsenal bird in the nuts with the lads is fun time
>>587255495This but with a normal glass canopy
>>587255662those're some fightin' words, padre
>>587255662>COFFIN-less shitter in the big 2040No
>>587255469After all the bullshit she's been through she does deserve to smile.
>>587256048Why is this depressed 30-something woman more popular than the pink-haired genki girl?
>>587255953>breakfast of championswhat would strangereal kurt vonnegut write about
>>587256383Because she fights and kills like a fighter pilot should, and has little patience for bullshit.
>>587238750The avarice fueled machinations of corporate powers can't be ignored either anon, enso was just one head of the hydra. Gotta get rid of them all.
>>587256383Because she is a woman not a little girl. >>587256701Covers it beautifully.
>>587256778>mfw ac9 continues the "nigga-inside-your-head" plot device>it's johnny
>>587256914I would take Baxter in my head asking me to solve the mathematical problem that is Sotoa.
>>587256914I want a cute girl voice.
>>587256383muh ebin mommy dommy boomer zoomer coomer goth gf
>>587257081>girlNigga that's petroleum bacteria
>>587256914>game gives you benign or semi-benign schizophrenia>its peakwhy is having voices in your head the key to kino video games
>>587257198>all cope wanted was this with tewy
>>587257198Because IRL schizophrenia is kino, just not for anyone who has to interact with the schizophrenic. It literally makes life more interesting.
Burn Coral to the ground
>>587257198>you'll never hold hands with your wife side by side in a disarmed fullback
>>587257491Remove Corporat>Cyberpunk x Ace Combat x Armored Core crossover
>>587257491Turn Ibirsh into a coral sea? I can get behind that!
>>587257595Who said anything about disarmed?
>>587257597I'm in
>>587257597no space on earth/strangereal big enough to make a mass grave for all of the brain fried vegetables such a timeline would create.
>>587257471I knew a guy who got developed schizophrenia and it was pretty bad for him I think actually. It got him in a lot of trouble and then he got involuntarily committed.
>>587257672>"HOLD THE LINE! WE ARE SOTOAN WARRIAaaAAaHhhH...."
>>587257597>You get the delayed genocide, immediate genocide, or extreme genocide endingsI'm in as long as there is yurt removal!
>>587256383Because she's cute, kinda musty, and has been around for the whole game. Tasha's kinda bratty in an endearing way but Kate has a wifely feel to her.
>>587258013I liked that Baxter typically lets Coster and Tasha have their way and spoils them and then you have Kate who tard wrangles them.
>>587257471This buddy has never seen a schizophrenic with his own two eyes.
>>587258013>Kate has a wifely feel to her.She was basically a single mom till Rex showed up as Cope certainly wasn't helping carry the load, keep in mind she is the squadron leader as both Queen and Joker flights are part of the same squadron. >>587258136Kate does support Coster and Tasha having fun within reason but will lay down the law if they are messing about. That's why they are both afraid of pushing her buttons.
>>587257081>it's the unmanned PCA craft, BalteusAyre's voice triggers my PTSD, no thanks
The down-angled cannon on Attackers is so fucking retarded holy shit, nobody asked for this.
>>587258881OK so I wasn't crazy- I almost never pick Attackers (they suck), but yesterday I ran the Fullback with just UGBLs for Land Battleship 1 on Ace and boy did trying to shoot shit with guns feel fucking yucky, like my reticle was out of place and I couldn't eyeball my bullets anymore.
>>587255662>>587255724>>587255953Time to settle this!https://poal.me/5cakhthttps://poal.me/5cakhthttps://poal.me/5cakht
I hate that it keeps resetting my position because I'd just chill by the big one.
>>587258881Attacker guns pointing down and the delay on shooting as the gun port opens on stealth planes are two of my most hated things about AC8. There are a bunch of other things that are annoying but a lot of them are probably unintentional or something the devs would also like to fix. Those two gun problems aren't accidents, the devs deliberately implemented them. They actually think they're good. And they're fucking not.At least the gun port stays open for a while after you shoot instead of closing instantly like in the older games, fuck that's bad. AC8 gun delay is already bad but PS2 gun delay is even worse.
>>587259113Coffin looks great on something like the Falken because it's clear it was made for coffin from the start, but something that looks like a regular canopy shape but grey and opaque looks shitty imo
>>587259338>Hey, I see you're trying to perform low-angle approaches. Would you like your guns to be several hundred metres off target?
>>587260217Funny thing is I can't tell if you're for or against off-nose guns
>>587259318i didn't realise you were censoring you name for a few seconds and was wondering why you censored the ass of those two F-16 and not the other one
>>587257089>this miserable faggot is still hereGet over yourself.
Why choose between Kate and Tasha? I'd be happy to have both. It would be fun and cute.
>>587260741sAESA onboard, don't want it to leak to the publicENSO requirement for publishing the photos
>>587261489Marry Kate. Adopt Tasha as your daughter.
>>587255614>well known>cheatingGood to see EAC doing its job.
>Aircraft specific blueprints do jack shit once you've unlocked the level cap three times>ZOLL barely does anything beyond midgame because level cap unlocks are gated by gold blueprints, and there's only so many parts/aircraft/slots you can buy>Gold blueprints are limited to 10 per dayI know the online mode was rushed and is designed to be predatory, but it would be cool if aircraft specific blueprints converted to gold blueprints, even if at a ridiculous rate like 100 to 1. Also why the fuck can't I buy clothing and have to rely on the goodwill store tickets?
>>587262832And then do oyakodon with them? Deal.
found thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CpKx2LBXxQ
Is the F/A-18E good at all in multiplayer? It carried me on my first singleplayer playthrough and now it has a special place in my heart.
>>587264196>torres in japaneseholy unremarkablesounds like every anime villain evertaylor mogs
playin AC8 for the first time and all the LCAC missions get me insanely anxious, I can only imagine what it's like to do this crap for real. (apart from the obvious 'it's not a video game, dipshit')
>200 IQ pedophile ruins the world with AIThis is how you know it's Strangereal and not real life, otherwise you'd lose the "200 IQ" part.
>>587250005>AC7>set a decade before AC8>age of drones>game has so much dronespam>AC8>barely any drones except the cargo ship terrorists, Tewy’s plane and the Triumphant>Did they somehow lose the technology or something?For a more meta answer I think it's because Drone Warfare had a massive significant doctrinal change between the games and their dev time. AC7 was being made when the idea of drone warfare on the news was Predator and Reaper drones blowing up weddings in Afghanistan and the worry that being so far away from the shit makes war a game or takes the consequences away from one side of fighters.By the time AC8 is getting made Ukraine has popped off and the nature of Drone Warfare has changed, now it's commercial drones supplementing infantry with harassing suicide attacks or poor man's airstrikes instead of actually replacing boots on the ground kind of stuff that was being thought up during the GWoT.TLDR the reasons drones and their role changed in the game is because drones and their role on the battlefield changed IRLI'm sure someone more versed in this stuff could articulate it better
>>587264273https://youtu.be/NQi3Ed1Jc34
>>587264093Make model airplanes with Tasha during the day. Make love to Kate at night.>>587264273Its situational is the best way to describe it and all down to loadout. If you like SOD and QAAM spam you'll like it. If you don't then there's much better choices.
>>587264395I never failed any of those, unless you're going for S rank where I think keeping all of them alive matters, you really don't need to stress over them
>>587264585secondingI've only failed it once and that was overspeeding out of the clouds straight into water<< What's that, Rex? Vertigo got you? >>
>>587264585It's more that I autistically don't want anyone in the landers to die, rather than trying for style points, but I don't go crazy with it and let it happen if it happens.
>>587264273In terms of damage output and abilities, it's a Fighter posing as a Multirole. However it still has the okay mobility of a Multirole instead of the great mobility of a real Fighter. Overall a very capable and cost effective machine if you understand its limitations.
Is the F22 the god plane that the military youtuber guy I watch keeps hyping it up to be?
>>587264727>set teammates to disperse + SPW>pack long range AAM/AGMit's piss easy unless you're some kind of defeatslut and intentionally go out of your way to let them die
you have to like actively try to fail any escort mission in 8, it's a game that really does not want to give you a mission failed screen everthat plus ace difficulty lettig you tank like 4 or 5 missiles, i understand ace combat is made for a broader and newer audience now but maybe they're going a little too far in how easy they're making it
>>587264853I should have thought of the long range thing but it seems like even on pilot difficulty I can't just slam a missile up their ass from 8000 meters away and expect it to work, I have to get in close and do the L2 R2 thing to get any kills.
>>587264968(once I do the L2 R2 thing, I can't lose, but I can't just fire and expect it to work, in my experience)
>>587264797The F22 is the definition of "Potential Man". Is it possibly the greatest 4evar? Maybe. But it has barely any real field action under its belt. You know what does tho? The F15.>picrel is F35
>>587264797None of these 5th gen and on planes can be hyped up to be anything because they will never see real air combatThere will never be an F-22 vs Su-57 encounter. Or an F-35 going anywhere near J-20 airspace. We will never know which would prevail in a real head to head combat scenario, there's only speculationAll there is left to do is circlejerk over which one has the most impressive tech, looks cooler, or pulls the wackiest maneuvers at air shows
>>587264727Just wait until you get some good parts and the Felon/F35. The sheer speed of the planes combined with the cruise missiles will let you wipe out clusters of ground enemies and catch up with fliers really easy
>>587264949I do agree that they went overboard, but I'm also a series veteran who's pretty good at Acing & Combating, so I doubt I'd be a good judge of difficulty from the perspective of nuggets. I think most of us are, we're too good at these games to reliably say if they got it right or not.
>>587265124>costedThis is how I know this image was made by some seething retard from a foreign shithole.
>>587265175But if they did actually fight it wouldn't be AC, it's be getting deleted from over the horizon or whatever that's called, right?
>>587264273It's good at everything, but not the best at anything; the definition of multirole. SOD makes it a decent ground pounder, and you can defend yourself with QAAMs while being more agile than a full Attacker. Unfortunately the meta Attackers are more than agile enough to delay enemies long enough to get teammates to help out, so self sufficiency in a ground pounder isn't too important.Good AA abilities and access to QAAMs makes it a good pseudo Fighter, but it'll never be as agile as an actual Fighter like the F-16.But the most important part: maxing out your planefu is mandatory. Have fun
>>587265392YesReally all that would matter then is who has the best radar and the best stealthWe can be fairly certain the Su-57 would lose there, but again, we'll never really know.
>>587265339They may be brown, but they're not wrong, it's a carrier princess that's already becoming irrelevant with Lockheed and China running around like headless chickens to ship the first 6th gens out.
>>587265562Aren't the "gens" something the U.S came up with and the U.S decides what qualitfies for each gen?
>>587265406It's definitely the best Hornet in the game now, especially after the EW nerf.
>>587265562Utter delusion
>over 1400 F-35s>operated around the globe>irrelevantAmusing take there, anon.
>>587265392Yup. Real-life air-combat is incredibly gay. Dogfighting isn't an actual thing anymore, it's all about slinging BVR (beyond-visual range) missiles from a 100 miles away at a dot on your radar and then hoping your gay little flying cuckmobile doesn't catch a charge to the bussy.
>>587265175There would not be a head to head, it would just be a race to see who slips up first and gets a BVR missile up the exhaust
>>587265562Fighter generations are a marketing gimmick anon. These "6th gens" are not substantially different from the "5th gen", they're mostly just successive iterations. We still don't have a solid definition of what makes a "6th gen". Adaptive Cycle Engines and Loyal wingman? That's all systems shit that can easily be retrofitted onto the existing 5th gens. Tailless design, maybe? But that's literally one thing, does that really define a generation?
I just want cool new real planes for them to put into my plane games.Rip Tempest
What even are the characteristics of a 6th gen? 5th gens already have stealth, supermaneuverability, sensor fusion, massive data management and networking, supercruise, advanced radarAt this point the only way to really improve would be to take the human pilot and its limitations out of the equation
>>587266317companion drones
>>587266317>At this point the only way to really improve would be to take the human pilot and its limitations out of the equationLAAA LAAA LAAA LAAAAAA LAAAAAA
>>587266389That's something you could add to an existing plane with a few updates
>>587266561you need 6th gen for catgirl avatar drones that can talk
>>587266317Lazorz
>>587264526>>587264545>>587264743>>587265406>>587265636Thank you all for your comments, I'll give it a try.
>>587266846star wars did a great job making people think lasers are beams of instant annihilation that will explode anything they touch
>>587267096Just use more power
>>587267679>Asplodes your megafloat
>>587267679you can't put a 900 niggawatt fusion reactor in a jet fighter
I need help, what is the weapon parts setup for SASM FA-36?
>>587267826Watch this, gay boyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0kvEBFnZ94
AC8 should have had a space mission
>>587267960Radius and homing, surely. Double-stack where you can.Or maybe add the lock-on boost for that tiny extra bit of lock-on speed in a close-quarters knife fight.
>>587267826Sounds like a skill issue to me
>>587268020As much as I liked the Celaeno mission and soundtrack, it definitely should have been a SOLG-like anti-sat mission instead
>>587268161Okay, guess I'll take double homing + radius, what about missile speed and ammo count?
>>587268304I feel like ammo parts are not worth it in online as matches are only 5 minutesYou should have more than enough spw ammo after leveling a bit
Where we get to drop a tonitrus spear on Ibirsh? I like the way you think!
>>587268427speed it is then
>>587268213Maybe a mission where you have to carry a fuckoff big asat-missile, no ammo as you need the full weight capacity to just carry 1 or 2 of the extra spicy missilesJust a full gauntlet of canyon run combined with charging through sam infested area with fuckload of enemy fighters while trying to reach the launch pointThrow in maneuver limitations for extra asshole mission design
>>587268304Missile speed is a trap in PvP most of the time. The extra speed can cause missiles to overshoot enemies that they would've tracked properly with normal speed. It's useful in PvE to avoid having your kills stolen.
>>587266112To my knowledge, 5th gen in particular is defined by advanced thrust vectoring alongside stealth no?Meanwhile 6th gen seems to be integrating drone warfare and control kind of like those V-9 Ghosts in Macross or perhaps like funnel weaponry...but I think we may be far too off for that
>>587268304I'd take lock-on over speed and ammo desu, or sink some upgrades into your standard MSL instead so you're not fully reliant on your SPW.
>>587256383Because most Ace Combatters are depressed 30-something men now.
damn the netcode in this game is cookedthese screenshots were apparently taken at the same time from two different players that play together.they're doing a scramble together, but the planes are completely desynced from each other's clients. they're seeing completely different things. that would explain why sometimes planes just explode randomly, it's not always a LAAM, it's just gigadesync
>>587265175we sell these planes to other countries. an american plane won't be shooting a chinese plane or vice versa any time soon, but we will be doing it via proxy states like we've always done.
>>587268729>>587268975Is lock on speed really that much of a gamechanger? I might change my Felon setup then
>>587268851two seater J20s have been seen flying formations with unmanned craft integrated. the second seat in the J20 is a drone operator. the drone functions as a wingman in a way. the operator in the J20 can tell the drone what to do, he's not controlling it with a stick or anything, he's literally giving it commands like "screen heading 223 at X speed and return to formation"pretty cool stuff
>>587269467It can give you a tiny advantage in situations where every millisecond count, plus it also boosts your lock-on range. If you've got nothing else to put in the slot I think it's the most useful option after the obvious homing double-stack and SASM radius.It also makes LAAMs ever more busted.
>>587269817Counts*Even*Don't phonepost, kids.
>>587269697Wish there was more fun things to do in that online hub and that male characters didn't all run like girls
>>587269817what about missile lifetime part for QAAM? making it spin a few times during dogfight could be useful, right?
>>587270832Yeah, that one's also solid. Back in 7 it was borderline cancerous.
>>587271061Watching your missile loop around 4 times was fun though
https://x.com/TTI_JAZZ/status/2119772623286800847/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLwmErtExrYWasnt expecting to see a clip of a random unceremoniously dying like Kakizaki...
>>587271061>back in 7is it not as good now?
>>587271608It's less cancer now because you're not getting targeted by up to 7 Raptors that all have nothing to fire at besides other players.
>>587257198I think because it's a really elegant way to have a narrator that's actually tied to the story.
>minnesotoans
>>587255135My standard F-16 preset which regularly dominates Warfare uses both 2AAM and QAAM but not for the reasons you think. If you understand missile management and baiting opponents into exhausting their countermeasures by staggering your shots, you'll understand what I'm getting atBelieve it or not, tactics actually go a long way in this game, metaslave faggotry notwithstanding.>B-but you could just go with QAAM only for the extra 8 or so missiles.Nope. My setup works exactly as intended and those few extra QAAMs aren't actually worth it.
>>587256778>Wake the fuck up nugget, we have a GPU to burn.
>>587255454It's extremely poorly designed, but the other anon is wrong. You'd be "fine" starting now. Most players are shit, there is no skill based matchmaker, and you can probably club retarded su57s with your stock f4. But everything is designed like some skinnerbox f2p gacha game for no good reason. Even gaining access to queuing for the super weapon fights is gated behind rng.
>>587257597Imagine a Raven with ace combat air support
>>587256383Because she's more unique.
>>587259338I think that there should, at the very least, be a green part that swaps attackers back to boresight angles instead of pointed down.
>>587263762>Aircraft specific blueprints do jack shit once you've unlocked the level cap three timesNot true. There is a menu where you can sell them for zollars. Good luck finding it since it's at least six layers down in the menu abyss. Also each one is only worth about tree fiddy.
>>587264517The battleships were big ass drones that larped as manned warships. I think that was part of enso's plan. Let sotoa manually pilot the battleships in the early stages of the conflict when they could still lose, and then lock the doors and cook the crew to convert the battleships into perfect controlled opposition to unify the world against once the spear constellation was in place. Their whole Ozymandias plan to delete borders
>>587275343Fucking 100 zollars
>get error: player left the match>after getting stuck at 59% for a second, instead of returning to the menu>opening cutscene of alicorn plays>black screen + music playinglol namco
>>587275943Their plan isn't exactly quick given we (broadly) know when GR and Neucom succeed.
>>587265392>But if they did actually fight it wouldn't be AC, it's be getting deleted from over the horizon or whatever that's called, right?Worse. The 5th gens are probably all good enough that they can't kill each other with long range bvr shit. They'll pussyfoot around at maximum range where their safety is guaranteed, but at such safe distances the opponent has time to react and defend. Getting closer is mutually suicidal. So it's just going to be each party spamming missiles at each other to force the others to respect the missiles and evade. The side with the most missiles and birds will eventually force the other to give up enough ground that their airbases start getting pounded. Then they lose because they have no place to resupply anymore.Hollywood hypes up fancy wonder weapons and charismatic aces, but wars are won by boring logistics and industrial output.
>>587276243this has happened 3 times now + the game has crashed more since the updatevery funny
>>587268729Missile speed can let your client report a kill before the shitty netcode let the opponent know that they were locked. I get a lot of kills with +speed SAAMS by combining dumb fire launches in their general direction from standoff ranges, letting the missiles accelerate to Mach-damn, and then turning on the radar once the target is ~1km away from the missile.
>my old DS4 was getting long in the tooth>go for a duel senseHoly shit the haptic feedback is actually sick as fuck in this game even on pc.
>>587268851F35s don't have thrust vectoring. Unless you count the vtol one, but that's not what people mean by thrust vectoring.
Holy fuck the Game flies like a brick compared to Felon who is quite agile even at low levels
>>587277842I lost?
How does online mission difficulty work?
>>587279591Right now now much.
PA decides to add planes from the ACX roster to spice things up (and because x02 and falken are boring), what weapons should they get?>XFA-24>YR-99>JA-37>MiG-21-93>Tornado F3>YR-302>F-16XL>XR-45>YF-23>FB-22>MiG-1.44
>>587277842At level 20 and counting their abilities, the 57 outmatches the FA-36 at any speed below 1700 kph. If you also give the Felon the medium-speed turning upgrade instead of AA damage, the difference under 1500 kph becomes even more pronounced.>>587279591It's just different HP values for NPCs, from what I've seen.>>587277421Making non-focus targeting missiles so slow in a game with insanely fast planes was a terrible choice.
>>587279827>Falken>BoringHow dare you. I will punish you with guided munitions.
>>587279827>hating on the Wyvern
>>587265124No F-35 has ever been shot down in combat and they've completed plenty of successful ground attack sorties.>but F-15The F-15 was only undefeated in "air to air" combat, some of them were lost to ground fire.The F-35 is by all metrics a very successful project that has seen real success in real combat. The F-22 on the other hand really is le potential plane and I doubt it will ever see real combat.
>>587280728The F-22 has seen combat and has been used to bomb ground targets you big dumb idiot.
>>587281061And it was kinda mid at it. The F-35 was designed as a multirole from day 1, the F-22 was supposed to be the ultimate air superiority fighter and it will never be used in its intended role.
>Start raising an Intruder from level 8>MVP Chandelier 3 times in a rowThis brick ain't half bad. Flies better than the Frogfoot, even.
>>587279827YF-23, we fight them in online and campaign and at high altitude the black widow would reign.
>>587281217Not the point you dumbass, you said it didn't at all. Pick a fucking lane
>>587281775Hell yeah
>>587279827>YRX-53635282835X#_@-$- Schoomabamolofoo Bruh get these tranny UFO planes tf outta here. Tired of seeing this shit in a game that still features 3rd Gen planes. If you can't dominate in an F-4 Phantom or any plane without Post-stall meme maneuvers, you suck.
>>587281217the "f22 is a meme plane" people are mental midgets. do you understand what air superiority is? it's in the name. the F-22 not having to kill anything means it's doing its job. the raptor kills fucking everything in training exercises, and they do those exercises explicitly to advertise to the world that we have air superiority. the f-22 doesn't kill anything because nobody is retarded enough to get near it
>>587255017perfect for plowing in doggy
>>587279827XFA-27 with QAAM and SOD so I can retire the F-36 and the 18E
Nobody actually uses SOD
>>587284778Not anymore. There's no point because in Warfare attacking ground targets is stupid because you're taking them away from your attacker. In Assault you won't get the chance to destroy more than a handful of targets because some boring metanigger in an Su-34 or some retard in a Morgan will fly by and nuke your targets before your SOD even reaches them.
>>587256048Thats not how Kate looks
>my 5th generation wonder weapon was battle tested>fighting those third world goat herders proved the value of its advanced avionics suite and stealth geometry
I love how mechanically complex the F-15 nozzle is
>>587284921None of the artwork honestly look like her. Hell even the Tasha stuff can't get her eye color right.
>>587285008B-B-B-But n-no one was le brave enough to fight it!!!!
>Decide to try Project Nimbus since it's cheap and I want a cool mecha game>AC briefings><<Today's my birthday, a victory would be nice>> is one of the first lines uttered by an NPC>We will create a world without boundariesI think I accidentally joined Belka's cyber Newtype corps
>>587285662I still want belkan roundels for 8. WHERE ARE THEY!?!?
>>587264273It's just a worse F-16 that can one shot basic ground targets. It's bad in Assault and just about usable in Warfare. I don't get why Bamco hates multiroles.
>>587269273Could it be called desync if there was no attempt to sync in the first place?
why do the refueling drones blow up on rex and bax?
>>587286182well, they all initially start out in the same positions so they're technically synced at some point
>>587286206FCU bought the cheap knockoffs, please understand.
>>587286206Enso tried to kill wings with haxor bullshit.
>>587286206Enso Order backdoor.
>sneak up to an enemy>just before you firing 2 QAAMs deep in to his asshole he just crashes in to the ground>0 points for me and he loses nothing, he would have died to me anywayle sigh
>>587285662Oh shit I’d completely forgotten about this game, there're just too many I want to play at the moment. Thanks for reminding me
>>587285662Is it worthy? It's currently 80 cents instead of 15 bucks on steam
>>587287671I don't normally do this, but I accidentally (read: wasn't paying attention) picked an attacker on the warfare map with no ground targets, so you best believe I spent all my time wasting other people's time and crashing into the floor if I got stars.
>apparently Coster being homosexual is something people think is actually trueWhere did this shit even start? I assume it's just projection.
>>587287671war thunder type shit
>>587288845Comp multiplayer games that allow it general I'm a dota player and denying my enemy shit feels natural.
>>587289004Yea but moba players are of a lower class than even gun and ball gamers.
when does sacrificing 1 million become reasonable? maybe if it saved 100 million lives it would be worth it right?
>>587288708Probably the whole quiet sad boy thing combined with the usual "cute girl around his age is nearby and he's not a constant SARC complaint"
>>587289131How dare you.
>>587273834>minisotoans
>>587282740The encounters where it pulls up next to an inferior plane and the inferior plane immediately turns around and goes home should count as successful A2A kills
>>587289216Search your feelings Anon, you know it to be true.
>>587289445Yes but if you get mad, I win.
>Take an unoptimal plane to e-sortie just for once cuz getting bored of the Brick>Whole team is glue sniffing console players that cant even break 10k score>fully run out of SPW and cannon ammoI didn't see anyone other than me even attempt flying in to the Chandelier cannon barrel.
>>587289216
>>587289404Don't forget it's always wearing radar reflectors when anyone is allowed to see it because we can't have people compiling records of what it looks like on radar. But it's like ant on radar my guys. Trust me bro. Would I ever lie to you?
>>587290214This man is Chinese.
Ace Combat Online will never be good because UE5 cannot handle the target density to make it good.
This is the best mission of all time
>>587290624>night missionI will now play your game
>ground pounder lawndarts the ground any time I line them up and lock for what looks to be a killbrainlet or turbo faggot denying points? I have no idea what the penalty for pancaking is in pvp in 8 if any.
>>587291325It's faggot behavior. You lose nothing and deny the enemy the points.
>>587290624Two seater for this mission is a must
>>587291407That's fucking degenerate, some people are truly spiritually brown or chinese
>>587290624I really need to try and get all my mods working with the update so I can actually play these missions.
>>587291407>>587291325>blaming people instead of bad game designThis is why you will never have a good ACO.
>>587288708Shinji syndrome cause he is a quiet autist not actively lusting after girls. That said now I am mentally picturing Kate having "the talk" with Coster and stuff she gets up to when banging Rex.
>>587292214>implying it's not both faggot behavior and bad game designIt's the players choice to be a fucking loser and nose dive into the nearest mountain to deny enemy points.
>>587292214>giving ways for players to deny the other team points is bad designLeaguebabby thought process. The issue is there should be a penalty to make it a decision rather than just default "the best choice" like crashing takes twice as long to respawn.
>>587291147There are many night missions in Project Wingman and all of them are great.
>really want to grind out missions to get my planefus nicknames. >takes at least 5 attempts for a mission to start cause of Jap matchmakingThis is gonna take a while :-/
>>587292214>defending faggoty win at all costs behavior hello saar
>>587292734There are three kind of matchmaking results and they can all result in failure.
>>587292478>it's not bad design>it should just be designed differently to be good
>>587292991And he, he was a true connection dropper
>>587292765>t. seething loser
>>587290214Well, if it's so easy to see on a radar, where are the exploded Raptors at?
>>587291407>>587291958>Nooooo just let me win!!!! I DESERVE TO SHOOT YOUwhat you sound like rn
>>587293803>*changes team right at the end*sorry, I won!
>>587294021Fuck off retard
>>587294027>literally making up things to seethe atschizo
>>587294236>I'M ENTITLED TO THIS KILL REEEEEEEEEEEElmfao
izzat defended
Just make crashing while someone is spiking you count as their kill
>>587294816I was spiking someone who pancaked and the announcer went "Bravo 2 shot down a bandit." But I got no points lmfao
>>587294942Probably actually a bug then and not designed
>>587293867The same place as all of the Su-57s that have been shot down.
>>587294816doesn't it give you points for a partial kill? i wonder if they're afraid of giving full kill credit because multiple people could have someone locked when they crash and they don't want to give everyone full pointsbut then it should just split the kill between everyone locked on, which is only marginally more difficult to program
Picrel is a detail I picked up while currently replaying on Ace. Tewy remarks how the Rio Bajo sheep are smaller than the ones back in Sotoa, but just as nonchalant, and Toprak can only reply with "yes, I suppose so". This is the earliest LARPing hint I could catch. Tewy, even as a noble, seems to be closer to the nomads than the rest of the LARPers, who are so detached from the common folk they don't even know what their own country's sheep are like.
>>587293719<< Yo buddy, still lagging? >>
You guys unlocked the secret plane, right?
>>587295223>Cope immidiately comments about sheep sizes upon seeing a sheep.>Tewy proceeds to do the same.You just know these two had some shared memories involving big sheep. People don't casually go "Uh actually the ones back home are bigger." when they see an animal in a foreign country.
>>587293509I didn't say it wasn't badly designed, I said the thought process of "you shouldn't be able to deny enemies things" is bad.
>>587295031?who needs to shoot an Su57 down, just wait for the engine to catch on fire
I don’t care about points because I don’t care about winning or losing.I CFIT purely to deny the enemy the dopamine rush of seeing TARGET DESTROYED appear on screen.
>>587295528You should tag the post that says>you shouldn't be able to deny enemies thingsif that's what you're responding to
>>587295223I like the cinematography of that scene, the anemones are there but not as the main focus hinting at the relationship between Tewy and Cope both of them talking about the sheep, but Cope actually speaks that all life on earth feels precious regardless of its different sizes and shapes in contrast with Tewy promising death upon everything. Absolute cinema
>>587292447It was the devs choice for there to be no drawback for doing so.It's optimal, I'm gonna do it. Nothing personnel, bro.
>>587292447the saying goes don't hate the player, hate the game
>>587296009
>>587295476Probably the one Tewy watched getting salughtered and fainted at. She was oh so close to having a true nomad's spirit, but that silver spoon kept the taste of a harsh life away.
You shouldn't feel proud of yourself for splashing a Su-25 or an A-10 anyway, it's like beating a child in boxing
My Ace Combat? Online.My Sortie? Emergent.My Bird? Arsenal.My Blueprints? General.
>>587296858As if anyone is flying any attacker but an Su-34 or F-15E. Not as if it matters. They don't have the maneuverability to stay away from meta fighters for long.
>>587295476the place i'm from is known for world-class dairy cows and you can bet i judge other people's cows when i travel
>>587294942>>587295005kek I just had this happen as well, spiked a guy and he went fishing, got the announcement, no points change. So maybe they thought about it or it cant differentiate?
>>587296858Damn funny, though
It's surprising how spiritually brown this general is.
I never knew aceg was full of so many jeets, but this discussion has revealed them.
>>587296858it's ironic in a way. frogfoot and warthog are sealclubbers irl, they get the goat herder experience in aco
>>587297340A mad man sees what a mad man sees
>>587297096I saw an A-10C get MVP a few sorties ago. Think it was the first time I'd ever seen that.
>>587297416>I must use every dishonest tactic and loopholethis is more of a Russian or Chink way of thinking, not jeett. pro racist.
>>587297340>>587297416you're not going to gaslight anyone. winning at all costs is literally how white people dominated the western world, do you honestly believe it's not the white man's modus operandi to win at all costs? how do you think america took over the hegemony? meanwhile jeets are literally shitting on each other for ideological reasons, usually religious ones at that, they don't care about winning at all or else they wouldn't have 99 out of 100 of the most polluted cities on earth
Serious question, what the fuck is up with the Ronald McDonald paint scheme? Why, out of all the hundreds of color options, did PA think every single plane needed to have that livery option? Did a McDonald's sponsorship fall through or something?
Uh oh izzatless melty
>>587297731We are playing a video game you animal
>>587297805yes and you go into the pvp mode and cry when people play to win
>>587297613Oh very much so, but jeet as insult is much worse so I went with that. Spiritually chinese/russian, physically a jeet.
>>587297805Ace Combat game where big strong Revy type drags us to our quarters after every sortie when?
>>587297741I thought the same thing, until my two braincells woke up and realized that its supposed to be a Pacman livery
>>587290624Not Ace Combat.
>>587297731I mean it was around 80% "holy shit these fuckers will just let gunfire and artillery hit them and stay in formation" which is why when that stopped being so powerful Lawrence and is Bedouin and other arab followers managed to redefine warfare.
>>587298015Elaborate
>>587295381Dragons Dogma 2?
>>587297613what's dishonest about Russian tactics? they're pretty blatant with their disregard for human life, they don't try to hide it at all
>"whitey dominated through winning at any means mentality">conveniently leaving out the concepts of honour and chivalry heavily present in those eras of domination actual brownoid detected
>>587297937>anon has literally never heard of the word sportsmanshipForgot it's a white concept, sorry.
>>587298015Oh god, now I see it. That's just as awful.>>587298086Body is yellow, wingtips/boots are red.
>>587298140>honour and chivalry heavily present in those eras of dominationliterally non-existent.
>>587298167you think acting entitled to kills in a pvp mode is sporting? lmao
cool planes
>>587298140>concepts of honour and chivalryDo you actually think chevaliers or knights were in any way honorable or chivalrious?
>>587298113Insane amount of cheating happens there. They were banned from the Olympics even before the Ukraine war cause of systematic doping.
>>587298262counterpoint: spooky planes
>>587298140you've never read a book before? british were so bloodthirsty they literally bombed themselves into poverty throughout WW1 and WW2, which is where America stepped in and became the premiere banking country of the western world. to put it into perspective, Hitler was less interested in bombing civilians than Churchill
Lock onto me and I WILL crash. It's shrimple.
>>587298262>instead of cool stuff like this we get dumb colored lines and mcdonalds skinsI hate that any actually good skins will be for real money only.
>>587298198What the fuck. More love for pacman went into this cursed gamemode than love for Ace Combat.
>>587298253Retard
>>587298595concession accepted, buddy
>>587298595You may not like it, but unless the way the game works disincentivises it, fucking your opponent as long as it hurts you less is optimal player vs player strategy.
>>587298454Imagine
>>587295223>Tewy, even as a noble, seems to be closer to the nomads than the rest of the LARPersI think you're giving her too much credit because from where I sit it sounds more like she's talking out of her ass about the size of Sotoan sheep and Toprak is just like "sure whatever you say ma'am"
>>587298240>>587298297>>587298435>Jam boys and changs out themselves immediately
>>587298829No, right before this, Cope says the exact same thing. Picrel is him talking.
>>587298737This is why multiplayer games are shit nowadays.>i need to optimize the game down to the last detail i NEED to win Whatever, enjoy every game being full of retards slamming into the ground because it's """optimal"""
>>587298882I'm literally from norf fc country. I just read fucking books.
>>587299080>norf>reading booksa pint isnt a book
Mirage 2000 feels like flying a boat with an anchor out
>>587298882>brown brown brownwhen completely stripped of logic and backed into an intellectual corner, the Quintessential Loser deploys its ultimate evolutionary defense mechanism: calling them brown
>>587273834>megafloat meganapolis
It appears my superiority has led to some controversy...
>>587299047it just doesn't bother me. i actually think it's funny. if you're playing just for fun, you should get entertainment from the idea of some guy blowing himself up at the mere thought of your presence. you're so worried about your imaginary points that dorks exploding themselves out of fear frustrates you instead of makes you laugh
>>587299080So what Birmingham? If so well he remains correct.
>>587299047I do. I want devs to make it not that way however, because as much as I like making the best plays I would like devs to make the best plays less fucking silly.>>587299164I'm currently reading the book of the new sun and (I wish I hadn't been coaxed into it by a good anime) worldend. And I have 8 empty cans of perla next to me.>>587299365>burmingham>northwhere the fuck are you measuring from, fucking France?
>>587299183>T.Brown Smellyman
>>587299435>where the fuck are you measuring from, fucking France?Perhaps mon ami.
>>587299047>Ace Combat Online isn't shit actually.>It's the players that are the problem.
>>587298825What we could have had
>>587299336It's just the same energy as that faggot kid your parents made you play with going "nuh uh nuh uh I have a forcefield so you can't hit me" which is extremely gay and lame. Anyone defending it is a fucking retard.
>>587299546sorry to disappoint but i am indeed white
>>587299725people getting mad about it just makes it even funnier man. does that one attacker kill really matter so much to you
>>587299645You could at least have called me Rosbif.
>>587299691>implying both can't be true>>587299734Your soul isn't
>>587299080read David Edgerton's "England and the Aeroplane"it's short and interesting.
>>587299734light skin brahmin is still brown, but I wont shatter your dreams, I'm not that cruel.
>>587299875I dunno man, I'd rather just not play with the faggot kid in the first place. Games are more fun when people are just playing them instead of obsessing over optimal play and winning. Multiplayer games are just full of joyless fucks insisting that the best way to have fun is to make sure nobody else is.
>>587300046Seems neat, will consider putting it on the backlog.
>>587299982You should always blame the devs. Nobody starts playing ACO with the plan to paste themselves to deny enemy points. They do so because they're encouraged by the devs to do so.
>>587300163well you don't have that luxury so you're pretty much just bitching. when games aren't fun to me i just stop playing them
>you dont get it, I'm FORCED to play the meta, the devs held me at gunpoint what causes this
>>587300392nobody's forcing anyone, they just don't give a fuck about whiney bitches. nobody cares about your experience
>>587300392Bad game design
>>587300392This is the teammate who brought ecm or a laamboat to chandelier.
>>587300392>Whaaa people are playing the meta T_T brown brown brown thirdie thirdie thirdie!!!!What causes this?
metafags aren't human
>call "people" brown>instant seething repliesaceg is hebben een serieus probleem with its borders, this is pixy was wrong
>>587301507this is why*
>>587301507>I'm not seething!>You're seething!
>>587301507I could bring out the hue artwork and unite everyone in hatred?
>LACM on the su57>its not the funny FAB-3000 glide bomb
>>587301769>hue artwork to unite us all in hatredI'm horrified yet intrigued, do it.
>>587301893Here comes the manjaws!
I'm logging on you can start posting E.sorties now
I actually can't bare to post more. How much do you have to hate characters to draw them like this?
>>587302394This one isn't that bad
>>587302012>>587302210>>587302387Huezillians must be stopped, this is worse than crashfags and izzat clutching browns combined.>kate absolutely mogging everyone's jawline
>>587297528Son of the mask looking ass
Better than these renditions of Kate.
>>587302594What can I say?
>>587301853The su57 doesn't carry the funny fab3000. The su34 does. The felon carries the kh-69
>>587302594Are they better than AI though?
>>587302876I wouldn't even qualify this as Kate art.
Something cute and cool about those early "literally a tube with wings" jets
>>587265175>None of these 5th gen and on planes can be hyped up to be anything because they will never see real air combatlollmao>There will never be an F-22 vs Su-57 encounter.Yeah, because Su-57s barely exist.>Or an F-35 going anywhere near J-20 airspace.F-35s and J-20s were fucking around together in the south china sea literally as early as two years ago.>We will never know which would prevail in a real head to head combat scenario, there's only speculationEveryone knows bestplen is your plenfu>All there is left to do is circlejerk over which one has the most impressive tech, looks cooler, or pulls the wackiest maneuvers at air showsThe Eurofighter Typhoon is one of the leading combat aircraft in the world.
Oh fuck off already
>>587303706
>>587303676This makes me wonder, have I shot down any /aceg/ niggas yet. It's more than likely I'm the one getting shot down
>>587303676Warfare will always be shit(tier) as long as random teams are forced to play against parties over and over
>>587301507Heeft een serieus probleem*
>>587303706>>587303909Kate strikes me more the type to put a stop to that and instead put Tasha to bed.
Address me
>>587304106it really doesnt help that the game incentivizes people to play warzone even when they dont want to with challenges, so you end up having guys in your lobby who dont play warzone and get massacred by the enemy team basically throwing the game before it even starts.
>>587304073I've only ran into one squadron buddy on an opposing team so far and got stomped
Guess we needed a reminder of our humiliating loss.
>this game is too easy, I should die in 1 hit!>no I'm not doing the no damage medal on ace are you crazy!?
>>587303481toob
I have played 20 matches straight just to unlock f-15e
>>587303706Cropped into a fun reaction image for your collection
>>587305229based, thank you and saved.
>>587303676I like to imagine that it's the same poster getting bullied by Dick every time. This is a pain I'll never know, because I stay away from Warfare and Deathmatch and my hidden MMR is probably too trash to ever see any of you high tier buddies
>>587300163>mommy said it's my turn to win now, stop trying to so hard!I'm sorry but you're acting like a post-colonial third worlder.
>>587303976I hope we get another crossover for Online, except this time we're helping Godzilla fight Ghidora because Ghidora's a FUCKING SOAT
>>587305229Beat me to it.
>>587304538No
>>587300392Nigger the meta is trivial to figure out. To not play "the meta" you'd have to intentionally pick shit you know is bad. There's not even an advantage to picking worse planes, it's not like they get some cool unique ability that changes their playstyle, it's the exact same shit as the meta planes only slightly worse.
two seater flanker is sex
>>587298140True. DEI has always been a core value for white people, you're not supposed to try your hardest and you should let the browns win occasionally or they'd feel bad.
>>587298454There have been a couple cool ZOLL skins, the Sotoa F-15E's dark dull blue is very pretty.
>anons calling for the bombing of mainland sotoa>no one realizes the true poorfag nomads like cope live there, while all the larp nobility live on megafloats
>>587306576I'm a big fan of the Sotoa F-16. I got it instantly when I saw it in the shop.
>>587305536>if you don't want to play with the faggots who flip over the board so you don't beat them you're a third worlderHow fucking dumb are you?
>>587306694I hate how most of the F-16 skins leave the nose a blank white gray. Any skin that differentiates from that looks great on F-16.
>>587306720Flipping over the board is not a legitimate move in almost any board game. Crashing to deny points is an intentional mechanic in ACO, you even get indirect kill credit for it.
su-37 skin 2 my beloved..does the 33 get any rotating store skins? I saw today the 35 got a splinter one but I dont fly it.
>>587306843>intentional mechanicOkay so you're dumb as fuck, got it.
>>587306687The good Sotoans can move to the FCU, like the good Belkans became North Oses. But many of them will turn out to be secretly evil, just like Grunder.
>>587306687s*ats a s*at
Had a co-op assualt match where 1 person dc'd on each team. I'm now convinced 6 player lobbies should've been the default
>>587306929I like the 33's ace skin>rotating store skinsThe FCU and Sotoa skins that you unlock in singleplayer by completing the campaign are the ones that rotate in and out of the store every week for Zoll
>>587306843>you even get indirect kill credit for it.You don't get any points for it. There is literally 0 chance it's intended for crashing to deny all points. You may have brain damage.
>>587307148>>587306959The game is clearly able to track who gets indirect kill credit, not awarding any points is then an intentional game design decision, not an oversight or a limitation of the engine.
>>587306959Maneuver kills are still kills :^)This is why they give points now instead of absolutely nothing like in 7
Which bombers should be added as enemies in future games?Tu-22M would be coolAs would the Tu-16/ Xian H-6Maybe a Ladon type aircraft based on the Avro Vulcan
>>587307301You are unfathomably retarded if you think it wasn't an oversight that they don't provide points for it.>>587307309They literally do not
>>587307649You get kill credit + points if you dealt damage. You get kill credit and no points if you only targetted the player but dealt zero damage.That is clearly an intentional design decision.
>get home from work>catch up on thread>mfwHow is this there much discourse on whether or not you're a total fag for crashing into the ground intentionally?
Didnt 7 give points for pancakes to the player with the last hit/closest player? I could swear I got points a few times for people intentionally pancaking, and videos of people memeing at the map edge to force boundary kills and raking in points.At the very least it took points off you in free for all
>>587307896People care about winning and losing even though there's no reward difference. Which is why one side is raging enough to deny poonts and the other side raging anout being denied.
Online difficulty levels: what is this and what determines them?
>>5873079317 didn't give points to anyone else if you crashed, but it took points away from your own score and increased your respawn timer compared to getting shot down normally. The score deduction and respawn time birth increased the more times you did it in one match.>>587307754That's why I try to tag people with a gun in case they crash or get caught by the Helios missiles at Fort Grays, but even then I think there's a threshold before indirect kill credit kicks in. I haven't seen enough crashers yet to get a handle on how the mechanic works, especially around points. An Attacker crashing on purpose is screwing themselves out of their three star bonus, which triples their points earned.
>>587305619What is that acronym at the endI saw the movie it was good. Shin Godzilla is still my favorite>3 second Anno cameo on a train
>>587307565T-4 seems like a good candidate for the Ladon treatment.
>>587308668I'm just shitposting about Ghidorah killiing a bailed out pilot, just like the inhuman Sotoans. Escorting a kaiju or superweapon would be fun though, the F-35s escorting Goji in KotM was a cool shot in a movie filled with cool shots.
>>587306687>like copeAlright you bastard, you convinced me. Let's get em.
>>587306687Time to plan the Megayurt removal operation.
>>587308181I mean, yea, if you care about the lost points in ACO of all things (one of the worst online modes in any game I can think of) you're a total dork. Yet on the other hand if you're crashing into the ground on purpose in the dogfighting arcade game you are undeniably a total fag and there's not a whole lot to argue about. Then again, it's 4chan and if you don't have a bunch of retards arguing over stupid shit is it really 4chan?
>>587307023North Osea was formed via deception
>>587309707South Belkans gave up because the norf cared more about using them as a buffer than supporting them as people. North Oseans speak Osean, btw.
>>587307121>that rotate in and out of the store every week for ZollThe way that the ZOLL skins rotate every like five days or something tells me all I need to know about who was in charge of the online systems. I hate jewish player retention and FOMO cancer so much it's unreal.
Belka will be made whole again!
>>587306694Good taste. Love anything with the old BDU looking camouflage on it. >>587306827Same same for any plane I fly, I immediately snap up any skins that have a black nose, or any color nose than the i3 defaults.
Just found this emblem: Western Operational Command of the Belarussian ArmyLook familiar? :)
>>587309617It's faggotry that makes people seethe, which makes it fun to read about. Like the one anon malding about having never seen the indirect kill pity points, shit's dumb but it's funny to see someone get so triggered that they startrd sperging oit about it. Besides if the ace killing ace bonus is what really makes the difference between your number being bigger or being smaller then your attacker wasn't doing its job well enough.>t. assault player
>>587309987Osea made them give it up by an unequal treaty
Fun games but I'm getting a little tired of Chandelier since it always turns into this now that everyone knows what they're doing, can't see shit
>>587310701>unequal>treatyMaybe Belkans should win wars then if they want favorable treaties.
>Have a PC well over the recommended specs>Tried disabling async, changing the driver, increasing page file, and downgrading graphics>HWInfo64, Event Viewer, and Performance Monitor all report that everything is nominal>The game still crashes without an error message within an hour from starting a sessionSomebody strap me in an Ohka and point me at Bamco offices
>>58730669404 is the correct tail number since it corresponds with the best game in the series.
>>587310787Imagine multiple Morgan players firing the MPBM in the Megalith tunnels.>>587309617How many points do you get for shooting down players anyway? The values seem lower versus 7, and I'm normally looking at stars and role when picking targets in Warfare.
>>587311294It's dependent on your plane's (base I think?) cost plus your threat level.
>>587311315Maybe eventually we'll get Ratbat planes
>>587311315>black armbandwho is she mourning?
How do I get better at PvP and Warfare?
>>587311595The West
>>587311650'tis over
>>587311617level up your planes
What IRL country is Rio Bajo supposed to be?
>>587311617Which role do you want help with?
>>587311617Focus targeting plsJust had an asshole on my team go evasive but instead of stacking locks to get the easy buddy kill he keeps farming NPC's
>>587311617Always sortie in a full party of skilled players with max level meta planes and defined roles, also pray that the other guy gets bamcoded first.
>>587255495EXCEPTIONAL post
>>587311872mexicolombia
I still want a COFFIN F-4.
>>587269464Only one in this thread who actually gets it >>587308181 Normally, I wouldn't do that cowardly shit but every now and then you'll get a match where your lowly lvl 15 Phantom is being hounded by a Migger, EuroDorito Typhus Fever, and a FartcloudEmitter 3000 and your teammates refuse your blurbs for backup. In that case fuck it I'm not giving any metafags any extra points. If I'm flying my Viper, however, I go full Trigger and show them how I get wet, wild and do nasty things™.
>beat 7 at S ranked Ace difficulty>have to wait until the next sale to get the 3 DLC missions because fuck paying a significant fraction of the game's price for 10% of its contentAs a side question, has anyone on Linux gotten 6 working and if so, what emulator/recompile did you use?
>>587312362I'd sooner not play the game at all
>>587313295You can get them for free
Emergency sorties are the ones who give the most zogdollars, even over Scrambles, right? I am running low on contracts and want to use them more efficiently.
>>587256383because I like tall women with tall faces (for lack of a better way to describe it)not short women with round, neotenous faces that look like they're still vague and unformed, like dough that hasn't been cooked yetalso, in addition to being likeable herself, Kate genuinely seems to like the player, which is a rarity that few men ever experience in their lives
>>587290624PW is so fucking ugly its unrealinstead of the artbook they should spend time learning some basic colour grading to avoid eye rape
new Kates dropped
>>587314316They're both around 7000/14,000 with the booster iirc but I don't know how much it varies with your score in scramble
>>587309114Wasn't that Rodan?
>>587287757>>587288052It's less than a dollar, so I'd say it's worth it. I've only played the first two levels so far though
>>587316313
>>587307565But only if they actually use their supersonic speed, unlike all the Tu-160s we see.
Getting to the tail end of my attacker only run and I'm not really sure which jet I like better with regards to F-15E vs Su-34. Eagle probably wins out on performance mostly because I can't stand the low stability floaty controls you get with every Flanker.But while SFFS are powerful the UGBL is pure simplicity and consistency.
>>587314316They award the same, I think scramble's reward bumps might be more affected by difficulty and your ranking, since there's 4 pilots instead of 8.
>>587316975>thicc sexy and stable girl with stupid powerful single target and aoe damage>or ugly unstable duck with boring braindead bombNot even a contest baby F-15E is best girl of the year every year
>>587316893The Hustler is unbelievably ugly.
>>587317464Convair didn't build them pretty, but I still like their aura.
>>587316893>tu-160s: slow as shit>those su-25s approaching the lcacs on retaking of theve 1: NYOOOOOOOMAm I the only one who noticed those su25s fucking zooming?
>>587317627I do like the DD.
>>587317464It's the long skinny tube engines hanging so low and ahead off the wings
>>587317919Planes do that in MP too, whenever the second half of the mission starts, if you're already nearby their spawn in location they'll blast away at mach 5 to get to their standard encounter zone. Most blatantly seen on the space elevator map, where they'll blast out of the clouds to up against the tower in like 3 seconds. Kinda funny to watch.
>>587316975The true answer is both. Eagle for A2A and Fullback for A2G.
What is the most jewish plane in the game so I can run with it using the <<Merchant>> tag?
Hot take: unique meta Special Weapons should keep their base stats but they should not be affected by upgrade parts. The double stacking bomb radius multiplier on UGBLs and double guidance for QAAMs is just ridiculous.
>>587319330Whatever the current darling meta plane is.
>>587319330Morgan
>>587319405Nah. Give the Adler some extreme bullshit, call it SFFS-L that spreads 17 bomblets each with max spec UGBL blast radius, and enough parts slots and abilitiy slots to double stack blast radius, and bomblet number parts.
>>587319405>ummm we shouldn't have fun things in the game because of muh competitive integrityneed to fucking behead all PVPfaggots
>>587304538shouldve been topkek's plane in m28
>>587319330Flankers, look at that huge schnoz
>>587319405Counter-Take: There should not be unique meta weapons. We should be able to put whatever special weapon we want on whatever plane we want. At worst they should be class locked, not plane locked. Lock UGBL to bombers, LAAM to multiroles and such.
>>587320671the apalis was a starter tier plane in x, why would an endgame boss fly that?
>>587318131>black anti-reflective paint in front of the canopysex
>>587320881This is almost a dumber take. Fixed SPW promotes trying out different planes (because it carries a SPW you like) and different SPWs (because a plane you like carries it). How many people do you think would be playing the fucking Frogfoot if it didn't carry SFFS or MGPs? How many people do you think would be learning SAAM tricks if it weren't for the Berkut or Tomcat A?
>>587321231>how many people would do xPopularity is an irrelevant metric. I don't want different planes or weapons "promoted" to me. Fuck off, General Resource.
>>587320881now every ground mission is 8x F-15s and every air mission is 8x Felonsgood job retard
>>587320912It was Wyvern tier if you customized it, which Toprak very much would.
>>587321231they would also need to make unique models for each SPW for each plane to match the IRL loadout equivalentgranted you could recycle some models across aircraft that can carry the same stores IRL, but it would still drastically inflate the amount of modelling and texturing work needed, and there are certain planes that simply never carried certain SPW types IRL
>>587321545See this would force PA to actually balance the planes.
>>587321431Neukeks will stick to the fucking Delphinus and claim it's the greatest plane in the world. Meanwhile UPEO CHADS will fly every single rustbucket they can get their hands on because they love plens, whether it's a shitbed Typhoon or Fulcrum, hand-me-down Neucuck/GRetard flying trashcan, or lore accurate Berkut.
>>587321823>balance the planes>now every plane plays the same>or any niche it's better at synergizes with a specific spw more than others, so giving it access to the entire roster is redundantyou doubling down on a dumb idea doesn't make it any less retarded. install a mod if you want to put tls on the intruder
>>587319330Probably the f35
God I just Harling'd the V22 at the end of Rocky Island so hard. >eats a missile right off the coast>wreck 180's right back inland and slams into fuel silos setting off a chain explosion
pitch me your million dollar dlc missions/expansion ideas
>>587322130Rather have all planes be equally capable than some of them being straight downgrades.
>>587322673A mission that happens entirely underground
>>587322673you get hit by a belkan shrink ray and have to fight off flies and bees
>>587322752>Rather have all planes be equally capable than some of them being straight downgrades.impossiburusome planes are just worse than others. like the a-10, the a-10 was always trash in both real life and in every ace combat game. and the fishbed is funny but it's no felon.
>decide to try to get the machine gun only medal>sounds really tedious so check online for any tips>see I can do it with the machine gun pods as well>try them out after never having tried them>have a blast tapping the machine gun and special weapon button and blowing up everything in a fraction of a secondIt's like the good old days before they invented the guided missile. It's like when they switched from the M2 .50 cal to the M3 .50 cal.
>>587322752You do not like or care for planes if you want an A-6 to fly just like an F-15E.
>>587323210Try shooting the Podarge in its shiny cargo rack ass. Or in its cockpit.
>>587321231>Really, really like the X-40 because it looks cool>Never use the X-40 because it only has QAAMs and the EMLWow either I play with a plane I don't like because it has good weapons or a plane I do like that sucks because the devs are assholes. Clearly I'm in the wrong here.
>>587323392No, I want A-6 to have some reason to use in online. It doesn't have to fly like an F-15, it can have some other advantage.
>>587321545You mean 8x Su-34s, they still have better flight performance than the F-15E
>>587323514The most obvious solution would be to actually use the fucking points system that's already in the game to cap lobbies.So in an <1500 lobby you might take the A-6 while in an unlimited one you'd take an F-15E or an Su-34.
>>587323501you say this as if qaams are bad. literally a single good spw could make a plane worthwhile in every other AC, and there's not much downside to taking a single spw in 8. granted, eml-b and uavts are trash.
>>587316313this is like a month old>>587316507this is kino
>>587322673watch it be about the miniseries
Having to go into the aircraft set menu just to put some decals on a plane is such fucking obtuse and moronic UI design holy shit
issue with the nightmare isnt even the weaksauce SPWs, its that its way too ass-draggy to be controllable
>>587323852The menu layouts are pants-on-head fucktarded in general. Why the FUCK is my pilot rank in the "Hangar" section?
>use plane of 1500 cost of more challenge>use a plane that costs 1600>doesn't countretard here, what am I missing
>>587323645That, or they could also use the upgrade cost tiers as another balancing metric. Intruder is the only low cost plane that gets UGBs and LASM/LAGMs, would be very helpful for mapclearing Fort Grays if everyone was stuck in low cost planes but ships had Difficulty Level 3 tiers of health. Mechanics fucking exist already to make the game more fun, the online devs just aren't using them.
>>587324068Those are looking for base plane cost before any parts/abilities are applied.
>>587324068base cost, not final costyes it's stupid
>>587323786>You say this as if qaams are badI know they aren't, but I hate using them because it feels simultaneously brainless, but also isn't as satisfying as using SASMs to pop Shadow 22 like a grape.But actually my biggest issue with the X-40? That fucking standard missile damage what on earth were they thinking. Especially since it's supposed to be after the F-22, Su57 and FA-36, which are OHK on most orange and white targets.
>>587324174Yes, that would be another decent solution. Only problem I see with it is that the Su-34 should not be mid-tier for how insanely good it is and it would crowd out a lot of potentially interesting mid-tier attackers and multiroles like the F2 or the Mirage-2000. Maybe they could just slot it into high tier for matchmaking but keep the mid-tier upgrade costs.
>>587322673you are a mercenary pilot (Cipher, who gambled away his Zillions) hired by up and coming Neucom to even the field against GR, striking targets all over the worldthis is done in complete secrecy so to the world you are just a random terrorist, this is reflected by various mission gimmicks like satellite SAMs, airburst railguns, lasers, and at the end a faceoff with famous squadrons and acesfinal and 7th SP mission involves V2 in some way i have yet to imagine (V2 defensive??), and a fight with Trigger inside GRs under construction geofront
>>587324207Well, it's a purple plane so it doesn't get the anti-air bonus that blue planes get.
>>587323952It decelerates *extremely* quickly but for me at least, knowing that I just punch the throttle forward every time I bring it back to avoid the stall. It's really fun to fly once you get that it will simply stop dead in the air if you fully close out the throttle.>>587324532..Oh yeah.. it's a """multirole""" for some reason...
>>587324391In the same vein the A-10 should really be a low upgrade cost plane. It gets ONE good SPW (UGB) but it's such a trash platform that it's not worthwhile to use it. 4AGMs are fine and RKTS are a meme weapon, but being such slow pig makes it nearly worthless. Give it UGBLs to set it apart from the Intruder, which still has ranged air to ground options over the Warthog.
>>587324185>>587324183Man, they really want players grinding their asses
>>587324486i forgot ACZ is in 1995 and cipher would be mihaly tier by the time AC8 takes place
>a few skyscrapers in downtown and then 150 miles of suburbiaTheve sounds like hell
>>587324876Yeah, the A-10 gets brutally mogged by the Su-25 in every way. Even in points capped lobbies it's just worse and the Su-25 is the big dick emergency sortie solo plane. And the Su-25 is low upgrade cost because lmao. Even giving it UGBLs would not really help that much because it doesn't have the UGB power spec ability.
meta this, meta that, don't care still flying the mirage
While Project Wingman used to be quite an orange game and that was toned down with the patch, I really enjoy how pink it is in certain missions.
A-10 should have gotten APKWS rocket pods for a multi use antiground/anti air spw
>>587324985Wasn't there some 'defect to Erusea' mod for 7 where Cipher is the old enemy ace as a stand in for Mihaly?
You ever win a game by 5 points?
>>587325380this, but the F-16
>>587326265I like boring grey
>>587322673Massive dogfights with no mission updates, no escort objectives, no bombers. Throw in a bitching soundtrack and it's all good.As much as Project Aces wanted to outdo PW's Cold War, Mission 28 in AC8 was brought down a peg by the inclusion of bombers and the underlying protect the base objective. Shattered Skies, Journey Home, Mayhem, Alect Squadron and Weapons of Mass Destruction still remain the peak of Ace Combat furballs.
>>587322673The endirance is isekaid for 48 hours, we kill a giant monster and a robot and a crazy guy that wants to become god, we return to strangereal, nobody remembers what happened, except Rex and Cope.
>>587326381I think grey is overused on modern military aircraft.
>>587326381ew
>>587326245>72k in a Frogfoot>In WarfareGoddamn.
>>587326387Star bound bird is pretty cool and has some of the best music in the series
i wish to experience the game again for the first time...
The prologue for AC8 still gives me chills. I love the track for it. https://youtu.be/Ou3t7lYqr2M
>>587327108Anon, there are many amazing games where people want to experience them for the first time they can't. Don't dwell on what you can't, and go out and find those games you haven't played.
why is coster such an emo idiot in retaking theve 1 and why is he allowed to go back to action immediately after displaying such emotional instability
>>587327108There are so many games I want to experience for the first time again. Can't do that without getting serious brain damage sadly. I only have mild brain damage
>>587326387>As much as Project Aces wanted to outdo PW's Cold Warbut cold war doesn't hold a candle to weapons of mass destruction, 6's big furball mission mogs project wingman's.comparing thousand points of light and cold war is retarded, they're narratively and mechanically very different missions. their only similarity is "zomg a fuckton of planes!!!!" and I hate that's all it takes for midwits to piss themselves. mechanically m28 is more like sp1 in 7 where it's all about playing keep away with enemy fighters being a side dish from eliminating the bombers/attackers that are worth more points (in 8) or will cause a failure state (in 7). meanwhile cold war is more like an ac04 comona air superiority mission, just a fighter furball for fun times. narratively cold war is about gaining air superiority and being THE turning point in the cascade-fed war, while narratively thousand points of light is like a megalith or the unsung war or chandelier, where the war's already won but the goal now is to prevent a mass death clusterfuck from vengeful lostcauser assholestl;dr play ac6
>>587327214>why is he allowed to go backBecause FCU needs pilots, especially the type that's not a pacifist.
>>587327214>emohe has autism
>>587327214because they only have two flights left on the endurance>>587326387pw fan seeing another arcade fighter jet game for the first time: "getting a real pw feeling from this"
Fort Grays facelift is so nice it would be a perfect Sand Island #2 without the Q-Anon Tunnel peopleWhat's the MF tail code stand for anyways?
>>587326937Still has the attacker wave mid mission. AC8 is crying out for an annihilation mission focused on pure air to air with no restraints.I know Shattered Skies has the B-2s show up halfway through, but you needed to reach the score limit before the first time limit was up to get to mission update. It was also usually timed well enough that you would be off to the return line before they arrived anyway. AC8 constantly pulls out the "uh oh, enemy attackers inbound" card and turns a cool dogfight into a babysitting mission.
>>587327214The FCU's air force is like 12 pilots at that point in the story, they're not gonna ground a guy just because he's flipping out over his buddies dying. Plus there's a week between Theve 1 and Drinwich, so he's had time to collect himself and bust a nut in Tasha to calm down.
bomb
>>587327398>has a deftones tattoo He's getting there tho he also listens to Crowbar
>TFW it's the fourth fucking sortie of 1/4/2030 and you're several thousand kilometres away from where you started the day
>>587327826Rex would be a TIE Interceptor pilot tbdesu.
>>587328074Oh Rex, you're no Soontir Fel
>>587328176Of course not, Fel got himself disabled and captured by a fucking Y-wing rear gunner lmao.
>>587328176Facts. Rex isn't a jobber.
>>587327693ZOVOV
>>587328176Rex is no defecting separatist bitch, true.
>>587327317Yeah, and? My argument is AC8 is missing a big furball mission without updates or gimmicks, and that Mission 28 being a bomber interception is lame. That's usually mission 1 or 2 stuff, not 28. I'm not overly fussed how 28 fits into the narrative because gameplay should come first. Yeah it makes sense Sotoa would retaliate militarily with bombers, but I wish they didn't because it's boring and not a challenge at that point in the game. Hold right trigger and zip around the huuuuuge map shooting bombers that don't evade. Thrilling.>>587327459>pw fanBeen playing AC since 1999, but here's your (You) anyway you unoriginal faggot.
>>587328347You gotta love how russian design just embraces the box
>>587328074Oh please he wouldn't fly that piece of shit. Have you ever tried VR in Squadrons? TIEs are impossible to see out of.
What's your preferred version of useless or marginal partdesu should have let you take drop tanks online
i dont think they can top torres
>>587328661No but I played a lot of Tie Fighter and also the fan remaster (Tie fighter total conversion for XWA) and you can just disable the cockpit in that game so it's not a problem.And I'd rather have shit visibility than fly a brick. You have your front and rear radar and target computer for a reason.
>>587328689Take the missile smoke.
>>587328689I use the cloud one. Don't really know why.
>>587328714torres was about as generic "lol mad guy with unhinged psycho laughter so insane" as a villain can possibly get
>>587328434>Yeah, and? my argument is that comparing m28 to cold war is retarded and I'm tired of seeing retards do so.a big furball would be cool but seems unlikely, even in dlc. we know cope never fired in anger and by the time rex gets involved there's only two good timeframes where they could slot in a massive furball before sotoa's running on fumes, in the 17 days between newfield and theve 1 or the 12 days between the celaeno and expo city. would be sick since they finally have the guts to do large enemy count missions again, without everything just being a trillion drones.
I raped a Migger 3 times in a row without getting hit or using flares while he was actively hounding me. All in fair 1v1s as well. This match was so worth the wait of 6 failed matchmakings in a row.
>>587328689Reduced cloud lock-on penalty on knife fighters or anti-stealth on the migger
SU-34 is cuteCute!
queen
>>587328689>>587329065Cloud one's pretty much the only useful one, anti-stealth a theoretical distant second just to mitigate enemy stealth in PVP. icing's a nonfactor and the ground will fuck you up even if you survive. Autogun is a meme.Smoke definitely has the most cool points, though. >>587328982
I remember in 7 the Su-57 and ADF-11F were really vulnerable up close because they were so big and presented the broadside of a barn for guns. But in 8 I don't think that plane size matters as much, the fights are a lot less close in for whatever reason and separate and break apart to greater average distance in knife fights.
>>587329513Wouldn't it be better to just skip the misc part for slightly faster respawn times and a slightly better points multiplier in PvP?
>>587329643the planes are a lot less nimble in 8 so you don't get the literal knife fighting of 7
>>587329471I wish she were flat
Number go up
>>587329816>zoll multiplier: x 0.02>reduces zoll income by 98%AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>587329643I never played 7mp but 8's missile tracking is shit so I like getting a bit of separation before reengaging.Usually the enemy is turning towards me so jousting ends up being a really common strat
>>587329816>0.02 to 0.06So my 2k-3k per match turns into 2040-3180 per match? What a bonus.
>>587330202The multiplier is x 0.02. Your 2k-3k match becomes 40-60 zollars.
>>587329083>A Thousand Points of Light is the biggest air to air only mission of its game.>Cold War is the biggest air to air only mission of its game.>"Why do people keep comparing Cold War and ATPoL?"
>>587330202Meanwhile you can just run the Fullback and rake in 4k every match lol.
>>587330376Imagine bringing that to an Emergency Sortie where others have Zoll Contracts turned on.
>>587330419>their only similarity is "zomg a fuckton of planes!!!!"please stop being fucking retarded for once in your life, you nigger.
>>587327214>why is coster such an emo idiot in retaking theve 1His heroes are getting killed and theres nothing he can do about it>why is he allowed to go back to action immediately after displaying such emotional instabilityThe amount of viable fighter pilots on hand that the FCU can field can be counted on two hands,
fucking WHEN you slanty eyed cunts
>>587330767>"muh plot makes them different, it's not possible for them to be compared!"You first, dork.
>>587330861Sorry, new management says Berkut is the only protoshit allowed, please understand.
>>587327214>why does my melodramatic anime game have melodramaSick of you autists
>>587330664they acknowledge the bug, but we need to wait 3 weeks for the patch because another vibecode vulnerability has hit the servers. Nuggets keep buying the battlepass and spamming their "pay to win" plane everywhere. The nuggets equip the bonus to generate more money, but they don't notice the decrease in income because their low attention spans demand that they SKIP everything instead of reviewing the results screen.
>>587330419because they're retards>>587330862the initial claim in this argument chain is that PA wanted to "upstage PW" with this mission (an impossible to verify point based on nothing but superficial similiarities like "having lots of planes")
>>587327465Vtubers are not /aceg/ and I want /vt/fags to stay on their containment board, but getting real news of AC8 thanks to a random stream tour of the Hornet will never not be funny.
>>587330419They should be comparing Cold War to Star-bound Bird that's the ACTUAL similar mission
>>587330862No, because again the comparison is superficial at best. M28 is not the same sort of mission as Cold War, it's basically a Bomber Intercepr mission except on steroids. Escort Orbiter and Star-Bound Bird were more fulfilling furballs than Cold War, anyway.
>>587330990Just imagine how funny it would be to see 7 nuggets all equipped with 0.02x zoll multipliers.
>>587331578Zoll reward goes so low it causes a bit flip and gives you the maximum amount possible
>>587327465mother fucker
>>587331305True, it was not copying Cold war from PW, it was copying Defend the Republic from AC:SW.
I jusr wanna play AC8 today and all I got this>the application was unable to start correctly 0xc00007b click ok to close the applicationHow the fuck am I supposed to fix it?
>AC5>GT4 >GTA:SA>MGS3all in the same year,btw
>>587332690i think you need to update your winblows
>>587332851>GT4Shout out to Moon over the Castle, one of the greatest tracks in vidya history.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdNWJd9AiJE
>>587332908Mine is currently up to date. Anything else? I just wanna to play it so badly, I swear it never happened to me in the last few days.
>>587331305>>escort orbiter>slowly farm F/A-18s until you get to a 3 minute boss fight>>Star-Bound Bird>babysit the rocket because there are a billion waves of attackersWe can admit that Project Wingman did something better because PA hasn't bothered to even do it once again since Mayhem in Zero, it's not a crime.
>>587332647Huh, apparently it got a Switch port.
>>587332851Jesus what a goddamn stacked year
>>587332851GTA6 next week and Physint sometime in the next two years.
muh cold warmuh project wingmanwhere the fuck is my artbook RB you cuntI'm rooting for the emus when the next war starts
>>587332851>MGS3that was last year...
>>587333890Wasn't the art book a pre order bonus?
>>587334039A kickstarter bonus they've never released.
>>587334113JFC
>>587333890Soon™ (for real this time, pinky promise)t. FAN
if they bring back the Raven i wonder how they're gonna balance that
>>587334302The same way they balanced the rest of the game, not very well all things considered.
GAMENEEDSMOREFLANKERS
>>587334039it was a kickstarter tier reward>>587333890please understando, FAN is too busy writing utter dogshit like project red sun>>587334446china not playing ball sucks so much when they have cool shit like EW flankers
>>587334513>EW flankersSounds rad as fuck, we could've gotten 25% more EW planes
>>587334780ah well, at least we're getting the su24mp in a future season pass
>>587334443yeah but having Pulse Lasers,QAAMs and TLS at the same time sounds horrific
>>587334446not having a boring 27 is an odd omission when they keep dragging the F4 back
>>587332690Verify the integrity of your files.
>>587335202it's not in the game?
>>587334446They're saving the 30 and 37 for DLC
>>587335336not as a player plane, the only flanker without canards is the 35
Do you think we're going to get SU-67 someday?
>>587335336It's basically been replaced by the 33 as the "entry level Flanker"
>>587335336Only the 33, 34 and 35; which is sad because old models like the F-15A or base Su-27 would be a neat way to add some loadout variety and expand the list of SAAM planes.
>>587335262I did, and it still doesn't work on my end.
so much for begging for less samey aircraft
Is there a way to fake pressure sensitive buttons in PCSX2?Having radar be either minimum zoom or maximum zoom is annoying
>>587335860i want more variantslopneed an f-15ex and s/tmd at minimum
>>587335860I'm no friend of any nigger who wants less plane variety in the game for literally no reason at all.
they should bring the Fenrir
The game doesn't really need more Flankers.The Su-35 in multiplayer does need to be changed entirely to not FUCKING SUCK though.
what's the difference between Su-32 and Su-34? The one I see in Zero is pretty much just rounder Fullback, right?
>>587336362Apparently it's the export name for the 34.
>>587332690>>587333206>>587335774I finally play AC8, all i have to do is uninstall the game and delete the whole file in Steam and then install it.
>>587336229The game doesn't really need any plane that isn't the F/A-18E but it certainly benefits from having more that one.
>>587336561so it's literally the same guy? well that's boring
>>587336776https://www.oxfordonlineenglish.com/free-english-lessons-mobile
>>587328661>tfw A-Wing cockpitfuck a coffin, all my homies hate the coffin system
>F-4S>F-5>F-14B>F-15EX>F-15S/MTD>F-16V>F-16XL>F-20>FB-22>YF-23>X-29>X-32>F-35A>F-47>Su-27>Su-30>Su-37>Su-75>MiG-1.44>KF-21Gimme more planes
>>587327465i think MF might be megafloat, not for any particular reason but because it's the only named city that starts with M that's anywhere near the FCU
>>587337115I really hope all planes aren't gonna be tied to the gay ass pass, I don't plan on engaging with MP until significant strides have been made. I just blow up soats
>>587337341they've said all the pass planes go onto the regular shop once their season ends. they'll probably also have themed DLC packs like 7 had.
The F-15 ACTIVE looks better than the S/MTD, and it would look even better without stolen Hornet stabilators and that ugly dual seat canopy.
>>587337521It's literally the same...?
>>587337115F/A-18 HARVF-16 VISTA2DTV F-15S/MTDF-4XF-15SEF-117A-4NA-7EAV-8B and CF-18AMiG-29KMirage-2000DF-35BYF-4E
>>587336918It was also apparently the design designation, so maybe the one in Zero is a prototype. Kinda like T-50/PAK-FA to SU-57.
>>587337001The A-Wing is funny for a number of reasons. It's ridiculously small, essentially the size of a sedan, it's the only fighter with gimbal-mounted lasers despite having the best ability to get fixed weapons on target, and its model is basically the mid-section of an F-14 kit with the wings, nose, and engines cut off.
>>587338608I wish they at least made it lore accurate by making only Yuke Su-34 being categorized as Su-34 and Su-32 everywhere else
>>587337307thinking about it more, it makes sense that the actual AC3 megafloat was the original home of joker flight but it was cut for time like the other sotoan megafloat. it's been under construction for 30 years so it should be partially inhabited by now. it's also next to rocky island, which was invaded early in the war so they'd have to evacuate almost immediately. it's also a good premise for a set of DLC missions squished between expo city and rocky island where you retake it. otherwise it's kind of a plot hole that there's a gigantic sea base and massive AC3 callback right along your path that's never addressed.
>>587338845Eh, everybody flies both export and domestic Flankers and Eagles in Strangereal, I don't see why Fullbacks would be a different story.
>>587334905>Raven comes with double lasers>PA remembers that clouds block lasers and patch that in>All the maps on rotation are Yinshi variants
>>587338819here for a good time not a long one.
>Battle of rocky island day 2>Shadows make everyone split up>Tasha, Coster, and Kate tell you to not worry about them, support the ground troops>Only the shadows targeting you and the ground troops are marked as TGT>After clearing them, the new types come in to target the ground troops instead of Kate>Next objective is clearing them out, then save your wingmen>If you take too long at this point Kate gets shot down by the shadows>If you still take too long Coster gets shot down too>Finally Tasha gets shot down if you're really slow>Missions proceeds normally after the shadows are taken out with 0-3 surviving wingmenAnd this is how I would get the JP playerbase to kill themselves.
We need an ACE+ with every boss un-nerfed and missiles that do 50% damage, and no checkpoints.I want to feel like the wings of theve
>>587339887>no checkpoints.I'm pretty sure that's a given if you want S rank anyway
>>587339887Literally just restart if you get hit
>>587340103Doesnt feel the same, and yes i do that, i can cope railgun hits with being near misses but taking a missile shot is such a massive aura loss i feel more like the wingsofredemption
When your using the Su34 in warfare are you bringing just bombs or AGMs too
>>587341917Both.It's good to fill in the downtime when bombs are on cooldown.Fire and forget is useful when under pressure and you can't line up a bomb.It's also very good for ships since bombs suffer a damage penalty against naval targets.Drop a bomb to clear the extra targets and pump 2 MSL and 4AGM into them to fuck them up
>>587342145>It's also very good for ships since bombs suffer a damage penalty against naval targets.Is this why bringing anything that isn't SFFS is useless for Alicorn?
>>587342145do bombs get a hard debuff against ships or is it just that if they hit water they don't do a lot
>>587320542I meant strictly for PvP. I don't care what you use in the campaign.
>>587342215Alicorn is just uniquely tanky>>587342370https://ac8-database.pages.dev/damage/#online
>>587336229They are saving the good permutations of special weapons for Su-37-YLW- and Su-30-SOL-
>>587342542>A2A SPW doing more dmg than A2G on Alicornwhat...? So I should just bring Fighters and blindfire my SPW on it?
>>587342813The nuggets can't be allowed to know about this
>>587342813
>>587342813Do the funny lock trickery thing where you dumbfire two SAAMs and then lock onto a ground/naval target with your normal missiles
>>587342813Fighters still have the natural damage penalty vs surface from being fighters so no.It probably would be a good idea to take air specials on attackers and dumbfire, except that's really fucking stupid. And probably hard to actually hit with. But more importantly that's so stupid.
>>587342962you could use SAAM on ground targets now?
>>587343024https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=its6u8KW1Sc
>>587343101I can think I can cook up something with this, any attackers with SAAM?
>>587326381Non-Grey colors are usually reserved for Aggressor squadrons designated to mimic adversary tactics and aircraft during mock up exercises and war games.
>>587343203think about what you're asking for exactly
>>58733809435C is cooler than 35B. we're not getting a STOVL/VTOL before the harrier though i'd imagine. or maybe we'd get both at the same time because it wouldn't be too hard and they'd have spent the time adding vtol flight so may as well
>>587343203Nope, F-2 has HVAA, Su-34 and F-15E have HCAA, and that's it. F-14B could get it maybe if that ever happens.
>>587343024SAAMs are really fucking funny missiles in 8.>>587343203SU-47 is a multirole with SAAMs. That's the closest thing you'll get.
>>587343203Berkut has them, the eternal ace combat online game berkut bias continues.
>>587343365I kinda wish they brought back ACZ F15E SPW set now
>>587343475Hey, they made it drop QAAMs (the 2nd best dogfighting missiles in ACO) for HPAAs (the slowest missiles with the worst homing in ACO). It's nowhere near a top tier plane.
>>587343704I'm sure that future content will make it the best plane. Or maybe I have infinity PTSD.
>>587343475bro got demoted into early game plane, bias my ass
>>587343263thanks for the wikipedia grok summary of shit we all knew already
>>587342542So if I can't into SFFS, it's better to take bombs+HCAA on my Fullback for Alicorn versus the traditional bombs+4AGM? 4AGMs don't hit the core due to their flight pattern making them hit the railgun instead.
>>587343750Its locked abilities aren't particularly great (low speed turn boost and HPAA boost), but maybe they'll do a special version with stupid overtuned stats, a more powerful special weapon selection and busted abilities.
>>587343796>4AGMs don't hit the core due to their flight pattern making them hit the railgun instead.It's not reliable but I can still hit it clean by flying low and in front of the core, like 1k distance or so
>>587344029Which named character even uses Berkut? Tewy's is just a skin so she's out. Grabacr and Ofnir uses S-32. there's ACZ Grabacr I guess?
>>587343796It's probably technically marginally better, sure.Is it worth your extra effort in flying to dumbfire missiles?Is it worth using up one of your maximum 20 hangar slots?Do you even need that tiny bit of extra performance when you could just fly a Frog?
>>587344159general resources bat twins
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>>587344298>>587344293oh yeah, fair enough
>>587344298So IEWS is a given based on their gimmick, right?
>>587344159>S-32i NEED it
>>587344159Aside from the already mentioned Grabacr from 5 and Mimic from 7 there's also Gault from 0.
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>>587344061Oh yeah, that's worked against the Chandelier core so I should try that against the Alicorn core.>>587344190I have a Lv20 Frogfoot, but the handling makes it annoying to line up SFFS. I gave up and bought a Strike Eagle yesterday, but I haven't flown it yet; I feel like I'm wasting good EXP reusing Lv20 aircraft on Emergency Sorties.
>>587344513they also have their unique stealth missiles which oughtta be pretty fun
>>587344159COFFIN SU-43 with massively boosted stats
All this Berkut posting is making me want to raise one now
>>587344729Wonder how they'll going to implement that one
>>587342813>what...? So I should just bring Fighters and blindfire my SPW on it?Fuck no.Berkut with funny SAAMs>MSL: 35 damage * 2 missiles = 70 damage>SAAM : 80 damage * 2 missiles *0.625 alicorn defenses = 100 damagetotal: 170 damageF-15E>MSL: 35 damage * 1.2 anti-surface attack ability = 84>XDSB: 60 damage* 4 bombs * 1.1 from xsdb power spec * *1.2 anti-surface attack ability * 0.25 alicorn defenses = 79.2 damage>SFFS: 40 damage * 2 bombs * 16 child bombs (Submunition casing level 2+SFFS explosion radius spec ability. Note, japs can't name SHIT) *1.2 anti-surface attack ability * 0.25 alicorn defenses = 384 damagetotal: 537.2 damageThat's assuming that we're just DPSing the core. F-15 pulls further ahead if you splash multiple targets like if you dump the SFFS bombs so that they simultaneously strike both of the bow ballast tanks. The XDSB isn't even that particularly good, but you don't have enough time to drop all of your SFFS so you might as well dip into some lesser bombs to drop while your SFFS are on cooldown.
>>587344880If you forced me to use only one aircraft for the entirety of ACO, it would be a Berkut.>Multirole with A2A damage ability>Earliest aircraft with access to Kulbits>Good low speed mobility even without PSM>Versatile weapon selection>Buffed high G turnsOnly other competitor is the Morgan.
>>587344963shouldn't you account UGB into SU-47 calcs too? Not going to be much but still something
>>587343796I wouldn't bother taking HCAA just for the core. It's going to be worse for the entire rest of the fight and it's going to be hard to hit with too, especially since you'll have to fuck around with targetting to make sure it doesn't lock on to one of the drones flying around since that'll ruin it. And even if it does hit, HCAA is a low damage missile and it still gets a damage penalty even if that penalty is smaller, so it's not like it's going to do much.
>>587344963You forgot UGBs and MSL Upgrade ability on the BerkutNot that that invalidates your point, but I like math
>>587344963You also forgot the biggest contributor - 50% extra damage to surface targets from being an attacker
>>587343203>>587343271The IRL Su-34 can carry R-27ERs, which in ace combat terms are SAAMs (HVAA also use the missile model, but it's weird for them to to be fox3). It can also carry R-77s, whose missile model are HCAA or 6AAM depending on the plane.
forward wings look retarded
>>587345584Nah, you look retarded
>>587345716looks like someone gave your plane an enema
Man I just finished my first PW replay in quite a while and it's odd to recognize so many /aceg/ names in the credits.
>>587345105>>587345164You're right. I forgot the bombs.>75 damage * 2 bombs * 0.25 alicorn defenses =37.5The berkut does not get a + bomb damage ability. You're thinking of the mirage. The berkut's missile ability grants a 10% damage boost on the missiles. The berkut's air attack modification doesn't boost the air to air missile damage. It boosts damage vs air targets. So:>MSL: 77 damage>SAAM: 100 dmg>bombs: 37.5 dmgtotal: 214.5 damage>You also forgot the biggest contributor - 50% extra damage to surface targets from being an attackerAttackers get +50% bonus damage vs ground vehicles, buildings, and static defenses. Both multirole and attackers inflict 100% damage to naval targets.
>>587322673Three part DLC starring a Savian mercenary.>DLC 1Takes place during the evacuation of Theve, your mercenary band works for the FCU and is involved in a mission that will be repurposed by DD to manufacture the "Cope is an Ace" story."Operation Phantom Savior">DLC 2Skipping ahead, the Mercenaries are hired by San Salvacion and ordered to drive the Land Battleship away from Stonehenge. Unfortunately, the Sotoans have repurposed Stonehenge against you, meaning you'll have to put it down for good by destroying its power plant and the guns and what not - all while also fighting a Landship."Operation Roundup">DLC 3Now working for the Sotoans, the Savian mercenaries fight a massive furball against a resurgent FCU air force and navy. And although the legendary 'Wings' is not there, the FCU's reignited hope will have you fighting for your life."Operation Clipped Eagle"In the end, the mercenaries turn away - to fight against an attack on Rocky Island...
>>587344880It's my first and only lvl20 plane right now. It makes a decent hunter in Warfare and solid air/ground cleanup in Assault.
>>587345860>Both multirole and attackers inflict 100% damage to naval targets.Shit, I need to pay more attention. I've looked at the damage page like a hundred times and I still managed to skip over that.
>>587345584they're just kind of pointless. we have better engineering solutions for everything a forward swept wing does, without any of the cons
>>587345789what did he mean by this
>>587345584You need to leave this thread. I'm not joking.
>>587345584Retardation is our specialty.
>>587345584lollmao
>>587346272It's almost like the damage model is retarded. Seriously, why the fuck are cluster bombs the single-target fucker 9000? Logically they should be one of our least effective air to ground weapons vs hard targets. To the point of being near worthless vs heavy armor.
>>587346827>what if we designed a plane with all the retarded parts on it, as a jokeI hate the Shinden with all my being
>>587346912It just needs 2 or 3 more intakes.
>>587346827they really just said fuck it with this one
anyone else getting absolutely fucked up in the su-57? i try to dodge missiles with high g turns, but you have such strong maneuverability that you basically stop on a dime to turn, which means you're a sitting duck for the missile on your tail
>>587347037Just... high G for a shorter time?
>>587347037PVP is all about managing your speed, never go too low or you're QAAM and LAAM fodder, never joust a Game.
>>587346869Meanwhile GPBs are still fucking useless outside of one mission where they utterly fuck up one specific target (the underground depots in Lifeline)They're worse than regular bombs against boats for fuck's sake, but better against the Alicorn for some reason?
>>587344880The Berkut is VERY strong in assault. The LAAMboats are the only thing that can consistently outscore it, but LAAM's days have to be fucking numbered.
>>587347516The issue is LAAMs are probably just useless for everything other than generic game modes, they're going to be trash at everything with difficulty if we follow what Infinity tells us: they'll stick fucking jammers everywhere so you're not shooting shit at range.
>>587347037>>587347354Even in a dogfighter like the F-15C, my K/d ratio in Warfare has improved greatly since I've stopped getting tangled in dogfights and focused on dumping missiles (triple salvo of SASM/HCAA/MSL) on slow speed enemies distracted by something else before going full throttle to the next victim.
>>587347739The kicker is that you really need teammates to fucking look at their map
>>587347797The map is useless because it's so small it barely shows anything except what is immediately around you.
>>587347739the good ol' erich hartmann strategy. according to the highest scoring ace of all time, dogfights are the result of a tactical blunder
>>587347797and the lock on to cooperate with you, I fucking miss the target pick circle from ACZ man
>>587347739Sometimes I find it worth it to be the guy that gets 2 (occasionally 3) people entangled in retard spirals so your team can just win for free while you zone out to the sounds of WARNING WARNING>>587347856You do realise you can make it zoom out, right?
>>587347516This, it can deal decent damage to both air and ground if you spec SAAM+UGB with homing, blast radius, and MSL upgrades. Pick off aerial targets, a couple SAAMs first then swap to MSL once you're properly in the furball, and sweep what remains on the ground with your bombs.It's a multirole in the truest sense. I don't think I've ever gotten MVP with it, but I'm always close to the LAAMboat that does.
>>587347898>You do realise you can make it zoom out, right?The game never explains this.
>>587347354It precludes you being a monster, but you can joust a Game if you immediately break the head on after firing your QAAMs. Like practically simultaneous input of nose-on->fire+swing 90° and hammer the throttle. It's milliseconds, but I've managed to avoid trading a good few times. I tried to PSM into or out of it, but it's a guaranteed death with SASMs, at least for me.
>>587347961It's literally an unskippable tutorial popup in mission 1 every single playthrough even on Ace
>>587347961There's an unskippable tutorial that explains this in the first mission.
>>587348068What button is it then?
>>587348159The touchpad on my duelsense controller.
>>587348159Select/Menu/whatever is opposite Start/pause. There's 3 zoom levels and you cycle through them with a button press.
>>587347856It's not useless. You can clearly see when enemy players are nearby, and that's a clue to STOP CHASING AI PLANES AND DOGPILE THE PLAYER.Fucking hell why are you of all people my teammate tonight?
>>587348243Sorry bro I'm flying a level 11 Frogfoot I can't do SHIT about a kitted out Felon that's headed for my position RIGHT NOW HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP
>>587347916IMO you want both bomb radius bonuses. It lets you seriously splash groups of soft targets. It does depend on the map a bit though. Farbanti is probably best for it. Lots of soft targets for it to mop up. Shilage castle is ok too, but it does attract more ground attackers that can do your ground attack job better and attackers are better vs the heavy howitzers.I'm a bit undecided for my third ARM part. I sort of feel like stock SAAMs are strong enough vs AI targets. I like how you can dumbfire them to reposition them into better attack angles. The level 20 anti-air boost ability is pretty significant for getting MVPs because it turns red planes (but not TGTS) into OHKO's for a SAAM instead of them inflicting 99% damage.
>>587347797>>587347856>>587347898The zoom on the map is really weird in AC8. First level is understandably focused on your immediate surroundings, but the second level is already so zoomed out that you may as well go directly to the third level that shows the entire map. And yeah, competent teammates really help. Just pinging for help or key targets puts you above 75% of the playerbase in my eyes.>>587347864I'm legit getting scores close to Attackers, if not outright MVP, since I've started doing this in Warfare. Of course it's possible the Attackers on my team are getting picked off if they're not pinging for help, hence why our scores are similar. Also I personally suspect my MMR is so low from earlier matches that I'm getting paired with bottom tier players, but I'm happy to eat some free lunches for now.
>>587348583I'm still not even convinced that there is any kind of MMR.
What's a good Fighter if I want to kill players with standard missiles?I want to run both MSL Guidance parts and Gun 2, then I guess SPW Guidance 2 can go on the last slot
>>587348439>Bringing a flying brick to PvPSon, that thing is a boss killer, not a fast bomber, be a good boy and take your SU-34 or F-15E already
>>587348482Yeah the anti-air boost is huge. I run MSL boost, High-G boost and Anti-Air boost on mine.For Arms parts my usual is MSL homing, SPW homing, UGB radius (or SPW Lifetime or Range if I'm playing hunter). MSL homing and SPW homing are probably not necessary in Assault but I'm usually too lazy to reconfigure between modes unless I go all-in on SAAM for Warfare.
>>587347898>Sometimes I find it worth it to be the guy that gets 2 (occasionally 3) people entangled in retard spirals so your team can just win for free while you zone out to the sounds of WARNING WARNINGIt's a valid and very important 'role' in Warfare, but unfortunately isn't reflected on the score board. Not that it matters, since being on the winning team matters far more for payout than your personal score. There was a guy in an EA-36 post nerf that did that to my team a few days ago, and we lost HARD as a result.
>>587348838I wanted to save for the Streagle but wasn't at the right level yet so I bought the Frog and fully limit broke it for the MGPs because it's cheap, I needed one in my arsenal eventually, and I already rolled the Monster Energy skin from the gacha so I figured I'd take it to a few matches for the weeklies and the XPIt turned out to not be a great idea but the opposing team's Felon and Raptors sure enjoyed it
>>587348649I'm convinced there's some sort of matchmaking just because it takes me fucking forever to find games now and the game can't be that dead. It's pretty dead but it can't be that dead.I also regularly see people who say they don't get games above difficulty 1 often (or sometimes they've never gotten them) while I get difficulty 3 all the time. There must be something going on.
I hope everyone who brings burst missiles to emergency sorties has a perpetually warm pillow.
>>587349202Going insane doing high g turns while maintaining enough speed for 3 minutes is truly an ace combat experience.
>>587348838>sell a premium skin for a dogshit irredeemable plane in pvp aside from bosses which are a complete snoozefest >don't even give it a crazy good ability or two to make it somewhat viable as a niche pick for a number of reasons, i am baffled by bamco's decisions for this "live service multiplayer" aspect of the game
>>587348731F-14D/F-15C/FA-36 are the only fighters that get both missile upgrade and air damage abilities so one of them.EA-18 or EA-36 would also work even if they're not fighters since they obviously have the best missiles around when ESM is up.
>>587326245Closest I got.
>>587349272I have a system, if the team is (almost) certainly going to clear with the picks I bring whatever I want, if they aren't I bring my carry planes. Shrimple.
>>587349450>this "live service multiplayer"unfortunately the retardation runs much deeper than ACevery single bamco online game is a fucking dumpster fire even compared to other out of touch jap online games
>>587328689Where do you get the smoke? Premium pass?
>>587349450The Su-25 is the king of killing chandelier, and probably every ground based super weapon in the future.
>>587349757It's either a premium pass thing or a preorder thing, can't remember.
>>587349774It's also the best at killing navies, nothing can survive a slow MGP strafe. Only downside to the damn thing is it's helpless against someone who really wants to kill it.
>>587349714I've been seeing some clusterfucks on chandelier man. I've been getting matches where I have 60-80k score by the end, and usually there are 3+ fifth column morgans flashbanging the screen and fucking with everyone's stall speeds. Or at least it feels like it fucks with everyone's stability. Burst missile should have been the level 20 unlock.
>>587349861Naval targets have a 90% damage resistance modifier vs guns. IMO the F-2 and F-15E are better picks vs naval targets.
>>587349774It's only gonna get better when it gets the unobtainable mg upgrade and close range damage upgrade.But also I'm sure the fucking F-16 talisman or some shit will have even more retarded shit. But that's what we're here for.
>>587349774I thought my MGP Phantom was hot shit against the Chandelier, but I finally tried MGP Frogfoot the other day. Stovies didn't stand a fucking chance.>>587349449Especially with focus targeting. I'm used to dodging multiple players from 7's MP, but it's way harder to do it in 8 because of the changes to the flight model and the focus targeting buffs.
>>587349202I gotta get back to my AC7 multiplayer levels of "can't touch this" so I can be the guy pulling everyone around in circles as free target practice for my team's LAAMboats.
>>587350043take the houndpill and you can be both
>>587326245lost a match by 12 points once
>>587349534Tomcat it is then, thanks anon.I already have a probably retarded hp atacking plan for the F-15C and the rest are too expensive
>>587349974Just try it once. You'll see.
>>587350204My Migger is at lvl10 or so and I haven't raised the cap beyond that yet.
>>587350223>hp stacking for F-15Morgan gets the 2nd highest hp, damage reduction ability, hp increase ability and gets 3 slots so you can still run bypass optimisation and both hp pieces.
>>587350409Also add ECM and that it maneuvers like a UFO and can flashbang people and it's by far the most defensive plane
>>587350331>>587350331>>587350331<</aceg/, you're cleared for take-off>>Sorry for the "early" thread, needed to make a slight adjustment to the OP
I dont play much warfare and ive had mixed experiences at best where I did well maybe one game with the F15c, I basically just get stuck in turn fights with player pilots where we circle endlessly until a third party flies in and kills one of us, if I try to break the circle I usually eat a missile, but I cant get good hits on them either. trying attacker usually isnt much better because the enemy players usually rush the attackers since they build ace pretty quickly.So I was wondering if its viable to take some cheap shit aircraft and rush the enemy attackers in hope for some lucky kills with specials but ultimately waste their time dog fighting with me. im thinking like an F4 or Mig21 but I dont know if the points an aircraft is worth translates to respawn time and points they earn killing it.
>>587322990Will we be able to fly into Kate's cleavage for cover?
