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Heterosexuality is not Transsexuality Edition

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Thread Question: What MMO are you playing after Retail & Forever both die?

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>baked bread early
>no new TQ
>actual indian thread pic
>talking about trannies
>didn't fix GLOBO
>bad dragon link

Worst bread in a long time.
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first for Haranir hotties
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>>587355206
don't forget it's the tripfaggot too
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>we get a new thread every 2 days now and this is the quality we have to deal with
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This is why you should shun the non-fur AI genners, they're super low quality.
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>>587355274
Who?
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>>587355361
>non fur

uh no, furfags shouldn't get away with it either
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>>586774347
>>586774347
>>586774347
>>586774347

Real thread.
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the retail playerbase shan't be forgiven
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>>587355041
I would play wow if it had hot mods like this
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>>587355450
what dragon dildo was up your ass at the time to think making such a retarded thread in the first place was a good idea
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>>587355575
You are addicted to porn and need mental help.
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>>587355450
>6 days of Nochesty necrobumping their own thread with a futa OP
>After nochesty threw fits about furries making threads that were on topic
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>>587355716
troves arrested for levelling too fast. restedXP traffic was down 98% people just following troves.
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Imagine choosing to fuck a toddler over this thing.
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>>587355880
think I'll just fuck an adult woman thanks
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>>587355952
We all need to start somewhere.
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>>587355880
Baldo was a weird one
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Dude turned off his trip when they realized everyone filtered them
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>>587356547
Who?
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>>587355880
Ok but what about a sexy human body except the head and feet is of a <insert another animal>
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Kill snakes. Execute snakes. Rising Sun Kick a snake into the concrete. Slam a snake into the trashcan. Shackle filthy snakes. /spit in a snake's food. Launch snakes into the Sunwell. Stir fry snakes in a campfire. Toss snakes into Blackrock Mountain. Urinate into a snake's venom tank. Knockback snakes into a wood chipper. Eviscerate snake's heads off. Report snakes to the Scarlet Crusade. Slicing Wind snakes in half. Thunder Clap snakes. Trap snakes in tar traps. Crush snakes in the Shred-Master mk1. Liquefy snakes in a vat of plague blight. Cannibalise snakes. Skin snakes. Exterminate snakes in the plagueworks. Stomp snake skulls with [Iron Ballast Sabatons]. Cremate snakes in the Flame Strike. Mind Blast snakes. Mandatory retcons for snakes. Type DELETE to destroy snakes. Drown snakes in Oil of Immolation. Disintegrate snakes with an Evoker. Kick old snakes to interrupt their casts Feed snakes to crocolisks. Slice snake's heads off with an axe transmogrified to a katana.
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>>587357032
Y?
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>>587356398
nice one
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>>587357032
kek
honestly snake killin isle is so damn comfy
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https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-hotfixes-november-9-2026/2403040/1

>only fixes for fogever, retoilet dead
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>>587357027

Why the feet?
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Where is Mr. Uwutek? Bitch has like 100,000 kids and that snigga is no where to be seen. It's no wonder they immediately became violent. No father figure around
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>>587357597
Every anthropomorphic race is just that, replacing the head and feet of a human body.
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>>587357824
why do you think she turned zuljanny into a snek?
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>>587358373
I thought he turned himself into a snek with the dagger.
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>>587355880
steak...
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god i wish i were my dracthyr
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>Forever/Classicfags keep prattling on about slow paced leveling
>are thankful as fuck when an item like cozy sleeping bag exists to increase xp gain
>guides on how to get it aplenty, large demands it be a collection item to keep it permanent
Any time I look at their thread or any chat talking heavily about the game, I receive a little more brain damage.
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are the servers down, I can't seem to grab my character list
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Sex with troll women!
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>>587360674
The way some people talk about Forever just reminds me of that meme about *place* and *place, Japan*.
Saw some dude got a weapon with a proc and he was shitting on retail because "gear like this doesn't exist in retail lmao".
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>>587361391
>and he was shitting on retail because
Rightly so retail is dogshit
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>>587361470
How can you say that when they made such a big deal about adding the one button rotation for you people that oh so love that Classic 'gameplay' fun.
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>>587361470
I'm all for shitting on retail (I do it too) but fucking hell shit on it for things it's actively doing not whatever you imagined up. I'm expecting to see posts like
>heh raids in forever actually matter unlike retoilet where you can get bis from dungeons
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>>587361852
>raids in forever actually matter
Eh fuck that, I wouldn't consider raid mattering in either of them.
Raids in Classic are just a once a week grind with minimal loot for the amount of people that attend, in the small chance you get the thing you want, hooray, you can use it in the fucking nothing else to do until the next week your raid does it again where you once again have that low chance getting a thing.

Fuckin' thrill ride, might as well be like a mobile game waiting for the timer to finish to do the same thing again.
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Why did you quit Forever this time?
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>PvE
LOL, LMAO even
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>>587360674
>insist they refuse to play regular WoW because it's too fast
>go to Forever
>bitch about it being too slow
>>587361391
jesus that is a fucking perfect way to put it. just switch out Thing: Japan with Thing: Forever
yet they sit in there bitching about it
i have to wonder if a lot of them ever even played this game at all despite claiming to not like retail, just trying to fit in or whatever it is they're doing
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>>587355041
Uhh, i can see them?
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>>587362119
Can't quit what I don't start!
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>>587362296
they're dead so it doesn't count
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We haven't shit on retail hard enough. I really do want retail to win in the end. I have put a lot of time into it and grown fond of my characters, but it's a disgusting abomination that barely resembles its former glory. It truly is a completely different game.

Nu wow over time has cultivated a nu breed of wow players that don't really like wow, they like nu wow. I don't know how you fix that problem. You can't fix retail without angering the nu players. They unironically enjoy mythic +, there is no reasoning with them.

All we can hope for is forever continuing to thrive and receive updates. One day maybe it can become what retail should have been and we won't need a retail redemption arc.
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>>587355041
Is there bimbodorei dk like this? Asking for a friend
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>>587363205
>You can't fix retail without angering the nu players.
Yes this is true I-
>They unironically enjoy mythic +, there is no reasoning with them.
Oh I see. M+ derangement. Thought you were about to be correct and target the types that get mad if the world isn't a piss poor joke of a collect-a-thon game, and those that shit themselves in a rage if their BIS isn't from raid.
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>>587363379

You are brown.
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>>587363379
>actually defending maze+

Go and farm your crests for the 45th time and enjoy VA, it's especially made for your kind.
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>>587363419
Only brown thing about me is I'm a prot warrior main.
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>shitting on M+ like people aren't going to be relentlessly running Dire Maul and Stratholme religiously to get their best shit
Same practice, different 'reward'. One just has a shitty e-sport around it.
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>>587363379
I don't really give a damn about where bis gear comes from. It just needs to be fun to attain and preferably lasts you for more then one expansion. I am interested to see if forever will really have horizontal progression. How bis gear only lasts one season I just don't like. I won't even bother getting it. By the time you have it you don't even need it.
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>>587363972
>horizontal progression
It doesn't. They walked back on that ages ago and went "w-w-what we actually meant was horizontal world progession!" aka add zones/dungeons that aren't level 60 stuff.
WoW players are gear brained anyway so it wouldn't have lasted.
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>>587355041
need blue gatorade dk wifey
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>>587363972
All that shit means is the same as vanilla, its not done in seasons, you just end up having to do the raids progressively in order to actually do the later ones because the only 'catch up' gear afforded to anyone was 20man raids in Zul'Gurub and Ahn'Qiraj, and even those were still kind of demanding in their own right.
Your BiS is likely not even your BiS for as long as a season here, it's probably just BiS until you get to the next raid.
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>>587363758
one doesnt fuck you in the ass for failing a tranny timer
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>>587355041
>Heterosexuality is not Transsexuality Edition
What the fuck was going on in the thread to inspire this?
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>>587355041
dk humie x dh nelfie
finna coombust
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>>587361391
To defend that loser for just a sec. It’s because Forevers combat is so simple, a good weapon with a proc is actively noticeable compared to retail.

It’s actually something I think retail could take a lesson from, I can’t stand having 100 buffs and procs going off during combat.
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>>587364538
Yeah and the other isn't the same fucking terrible dungeon over and over again.
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>>587364171
We will see. As long as it isn't the season formula. I don't want a total reset where suddenly new blue gear is better then the previous bis. If the new raid purples have like 10 more strength it won't be a big deal.
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>>587361756
Wasn’t the one button rotation added due to mostly women playing the game now. It’s why housing was done and why the shop is filled with agp clothing
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Best race to roll from Alliance on retail if I want to lure in lots of sluts?
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>>587364704
Pretty sure the baseline reason was because shitters of either gender can't rub brain cells together to handle rotations.
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>>587364727
Dranny female (non futa) if you want male characters
Worgen male if you want bitches
Gnome if you are based
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>>587364704
The average wow player is amazingly fucking terrible. When they started testing the one button thing I started to think "well at least the DPS for groups will go up".
I didn't expect them to not use it at all so nothing changed.
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>>587360674
Grabbing an in universe buff or a leveling guide while you level for 150 hours is not the same as retail’s getting to max level in 10 hours and completely skipping over gear progression in another 5 hours

The streamer add on thing is retarded though

I don’t know why people have to argue so disingenuously here, you guys act like Forever is the devil
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>>587365103
I know, it’s part of why I’m put off by raids and m+ now that my guilds all quit. Everyone is so retarded that it’s painful to do group content and then I get penalised for it

Part of why Forever slightly appeals to me is that it’s so easy that almost nobody can fuck it up (although they still do).
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>>587365349
It's an item that didn't exist in vanilla added to throw on whenever undoubtedly because people complained leveling was slow. I'm not making the comparison of versions, I'm saying the large bulk of people praising the addition are hypocritical as fuck.
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>>587365716
It’s not hypocritical, I welcome a small buff to leveling speed in classic but I also hate how fast it is in retail.

There can be a middle ground nigga
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>>587366000
Nice trips, but when the primary argument of the spergs for that version and classic is constantly about slower paced leveling to really experience the game, it is hypocritical to praise the idea that something comes around to make it faster.
It's not quite WoW token territory of speeding things up, but its still artificially thrown in regardless of what 'in universe' means they threw at it.
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I never realized how insulated I was from the "average" WoW player until the remixes started happening. It was a "oh, I see. This is the quality of player that bitched about silver proving grounds being impossible for WoD heroic dungeons." eye opening experience.
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>>587366272
In universe as in, you do a quest to get an item that gives you an xp boost. Camping buffs are in the same tier and they work really well. Both feel like rpg mechanics.

The buffs also don’t drastically speed up leveling and it’s nothing like retails speeds. I just don’t really see the complaint? Or I’m not bothered by it I guess. Theres plenty of retarded shit forever players do
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The fact satchel are worth 1k while leveling alts through Dragonflight dungeons and then at Midnight 90 they're worth 500 is fundamentally fucked and needs to be addressed in TLT by making satchels worth 2k
And I never see raid finder satchels anymore because megaservers I guess. Boy back in WoD used to love pumping my healing seed for satchels all night in both queue types, felt like a pornstar
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>>587364625
This, so much this.
Seriously though, it is nice to press a button and know what happened and exactly why it happened. It's also nice that while simming is helpful, it isn't a baseline requirement to upgrade your gear. It's just a high level autism optimization
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The group finder tool in forever is abysmally awful
Like it is so much worse than the retail version it’s unconscionable
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>>587364580
There's a handful of schizoid retards that think if you're a biological male who is sexually attracted to women, then it somehow means you wish you were a woman and have autogynephilia.

They regularly shit up both /wowg/ and /wowfg/.
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I placed some furniture and its gone missing but its says its placed,
how the hell do i remove it if its stuck in a wall or something?
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All my friends stopped playing forever already.

Guess I'm leveling an alt while waiting for season 3 (and this awful expansion to end).
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Where's the best place for Oily Blackmouths?
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>>587371745
There is a way to look through placed decor in a list but I’m on the way to work so I can’t look currently.
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Reminder: you WILL be remembered if you betrayed retail and even installed Forever
Traitors will not be forgiven
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>>586453787
>26 hours ago
>>586579535
>40 hours ago
>>586779943
>44 hours ago
>>586969302
>41 hours ago
>>587155493
>44 hours ago

>>586774347
>135 hours ago
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>>587372618
Brutal
Dead game
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What do you think of me?
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>>587373168
You'd look a lot better getting plapped aggressively by a dog.
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when the FUCK do the transmog restrictions go away?
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>>587373548
HUNS FK SOGS
AHAHAHAHAHA
Huns FK whit sog
when its a soggy... u can pet it... feed it whit kibble... or be em Huns and fk whit it
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>>587373760
With the next big update, 12.2!
Coming in early 2027
Need gnome girl badly...
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>>587373168
You're starting to annoy me
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>I want BiS gear to last multiple expansions
What do you even play the game for then? You clear the raids every week, see items drop and pass on all of them for multiple years? No progression at all?
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shut the fk offf noobs
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thought's?
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>>587355041
love wowg anons!!!
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the key (heh) to fix retail wow is deleting m+
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why does everyone treat retail like a failed game? doesn't it have millions of players?
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>>587375143
>why do people shitpost on 4chan
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AIeQelCe-c

UH OH
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>>587375206
I was expecting at least a month before all the grifter started shitting out "what went wrong" videos but I guess assmong is always ahead of the curve
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Where is Ion? What the fuck is he doing? i mean 12.2 is done and 13.1/2 are done too. Is he working on 14.0?
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>retail: made for two top guilds and 1%
>forever: made for streamers and 1%
It begins
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>>587375485
retoilet is made for the 41%
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the true journey is one of overcoming the yetzer hara. those who cannot will be the first to reach 60, the first to raid, the first to hoard as much gold as possible. they will think these are great marks of achievement instead of the marks of shame that they truly are.
be strong re'im.
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>>587375682
That is... true.
I can't deny it.
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>>587375485
blizzard literally doesn't care about the players. They just want Internet presence.
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>alliance plays retail
>horde plays forever
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Its dying...
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>>587376324
>want war
>play on a pvp server
?
why not queue for a bg then?
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>>587376461
World PvP
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>>587376503
>getting ganked by some nigger 20 levels above you is war
?
if you want war you join a battleground and wage war
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>>587376324
oh well, better luck in wow eternal lmao
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>>587375206
He controls WoW's fate...
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Time to announce Forever & Ever.
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>>587376324
>nobody wants an empty WAR
Except literally every pvp server that became monofaction
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The only way to fix PvP servers is to introduce logistics. Hunger mechanics, supply lines, morale, training, pregnancy, education, etc.
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>>587375206
asmon read a Annie Fuchsia being a retail grifter dog comment

instantly closed the video.
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>>587376324
>people complaining
>something needs to be done or else other side dies
Blizzard is ready to ruin the game
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remember how good Ralph was?
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>>587376930
They tried fixing them in BFA by scaling your stats up so you can fight back. You had underleveled death squads ganking max level retards instead
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>>587375206
>>587376324
>blizzard sacrificed retail for forever
>according to Blizzard it was the biggest launch ever surpassing wrath of the lich king concurrent player numbers
>not even one week in and it's already dying
>players will definitely not go back to retail either
>classic is dead
All of this feels so fake and it's bad for WoW overall
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>>587377535
stop taking whatever bullshit blizzard says at face value, forever was blatantly put together in like 3 months to cash in after the shot down a bunch of private servers

it's an insanely lazy reharsh compared to even SoD, let alone the pservers they killed
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So there you have it.

Irrefutable proof that Forever is dead on arrival and everyone will come back to Midnight.

The real question is how the traitors should be punished.

What is a suitable humiliation for the faithless masses that amassed such arrogance as to stray from the flock?
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>>587375206
>>587376324
https://youtu.be/7AIeQelCe-c?si=moFaZ90Ls9toLhlA&t=1442
>You know what I'm thinking about doing?You know what I think we should do today?
>I think we should deliver the killing blow.
>I think that what we should do in like the next
>I'm thinking like maybe we'll give it like four or five days
>Is that we have the the Olympus execution where all Olympus players make characters on alliance PvP and then we don't play them.
>We all run around and hwe have ufn and everybody's goofing around and then we all log off. That way all of the horde can overpop populate again and then it just creates such a massive imbalance that the server literally dies.
>Is that what I should do?
The most powerful man in World of Warcraft.
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>>587377535
i already gave up. got a warrior to level 21 and holy shit its balls. throwing in dungeons here and there broke up the monotony even if the xp wasn't ridiculous
i rolled a warlock in normal classic and leveling was much much easier, warrior is kinda shit
my first ever wow character in tbc was a warrior and it took me an eternity to hit 70, but that was bearable (fun even) because it was the first mmo i'd played
i'm a retoilet
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>>587378182
>asmon dabbing on the pvp server
based
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>>587378182
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>>587378263
Same, I uninstalled at 22 in Redridge. Shit's so fucking boring it's unreal.
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>>587378087
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Hopefully they let you make progress on the monthly battlepass via Forever soon because that was the only reason I had to log in to Retail and I really don't want to right now...
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>>587378182
>>587378367
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Y0CXwyKxp4
You only have yourselves to blame. You forced him to do this.
America failed Asmongold, and so he will end WoW.. Forever
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helo i'm human paladin
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I think the funniest part for me were all those people going "it's not classic bro, it's something different"

then it comes out and it's 99.5% classic with better lighting
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What do I play in 2027?
Retoilet, Retoilet Minus or Evercuckold?
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>>587378587
everflop is completely barren of content until like 3-4 patches in like every ziv expansion

SoD minus is like 2 hours of content a week assuming you've hit level cap

retoilet is retoilet

pick your poison
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>>587378585
I'd play that shit out of it if it everything was the same except the classes were wrath-ish.
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>>587375206
tired of seeing this ratgoblin's face everywhere
forevertards really can't even play a videogame without the guidance of some washed up e-celeb
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WoW: Prime.
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>>587378808
that’s already too much change for the target audience of 45 year old dads who played vanilla in highschool, we WANT to press the wand button and afk
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>>587378263
>>587378445
I would have quit before 20 if I was alone. having friends playing makes it 100x better.
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I know how to fix WoW

Just make a new WoW version like WoW: Different and repeat it until there's no paypigs left
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>>587379360
>/wowg/ different
>40+ hour threads
T-thanks..
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>>587378537
>literally the only good thing he can name is renaming things
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>>587379473
/comfy/
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>>587379078
I have friends, enough to do dungeons with, and we did. Even those were putting me to sleep.
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>>587378182
>even if Olympus is just 1% of Alliance, it's enough to change things forever
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Do retoilet sissies really think the Forever playerbase will migrate to the troon, furshit, girlboss infected cesspool with wrecked worldbuilding that is retail?
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>>587380595
No more like they'll leave WoW entirely
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>>587380384
Other version
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>>587380646
That's indeed the more likely outcome. People left WoW because the setting, the developers and the playerbase have become dogshit, but Forever is showing there's a lot of interest for the IP. If it doesn't work players will just leave
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>>587380595
Remind me again what sex was the very first raid boss in tranilla?
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yes Classic Players want to play the Tranny Patch that recently came out and fix Black and White race relations because Night elfs came from trolls therefore you are stupid ! big stupd if you racist to black people.
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People want to like and want to play Warcraft
Blizzard's mistake is attempting to use the terminally ill feminist homunculus that is retail to redefine what Warcraft is
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Just admit that wow forever it's good
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After playing forever for a bit i want to respec my paladin to holy and heal elven sluts
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>>587381453
Personally my whole attitude to classic has always been 'been there done that, don't feel like doing it again'
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I just wanna go home and level Tauren warrior
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>>587380595
If they feel like playing WoW in general, then yes. It's the one that actually has shit to do in the endgame, regardless of how repetitive.

Otherwise no, they'll just quit entirely, which is fair.
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>>587381449
So naturally, the same people that ruined retail like that working on Forever is totally a good and better thing.
Paid Neutral Race right off the bat! Ability to rewrite events and make main characters worse earlier! This is definitely what everyone asked for!
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Paladins listing themselves as DPS only
the new Hunter?
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>forevertranny delusions
lol
lmao, even
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>>587383041
it’s all part of the neverending cycle of life

>wow killer comes out
>this time for sure
>retards show up in droves to gloat and shitpost
>game dies after a year
>rinse and repeat
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i wish i went with RP instead of PVE, im getting a bit sick of seeing unfunny sex names every 30 seconds like
>goonius quickshot
>guy who named his pet bussy eater

RP seems like it'll die fast as fuck though because it has a tiny fraction of PVE/PVP players (granted the layering garbage makes PVE feel dead a lot of the time as well)
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>>587384542
if you think RO servers will spare you shitpost names you got another thing coming
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>>587384706
yeah i was kind of wondering if RP would have a lot of shit names as well tbf, but i also read you could get banned for them potentially so i figured people would be less likely to do that
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>>587384542
>>587384898
just realized this wasnt the forever general sorry lol
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rogue feels like shit for me after legion, can't play warlock after melee anymore and i want class that combines warrior/rogue/paladin and warlock
i also wish you could switch between some classes on one char
maybe i'm just schizophrenic
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Is there any sort of super hyper legendary fishing achievement or something of the sort in the game? I really like fishing.
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>>587385497
there’s fishing achievements of all kinds and they’re all inherently rare because no one likes fishing
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>>587385497
There is a fishing mount you can get from wotlk zones. You can also get your fishing up in every xpac zones to get fishing achievement i think. I like fishing too and wish they would turn fishing into a main profession
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>>587385382
try monk if you like rogue but different
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New player here, any tips for a Paladin Tank build or do you just click gear that has the highest item level.
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>>587386374
highest ilevel until level cap which is when you can start worrying about secondary stats
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Turns out completely ignoring leveling and treating it as a net negative on your game, relegating your playerbase to a tiny portion of the game (the latest 1-2 patches of content) means most people find your game boring as fuck after 1-2 weeks and drop it.

Retoilets completely fail at game design 101. Your game being dead as a result was the most predictable thing ever the moment an actually appealing alternative appeared.

Get fucked.
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>>587386374
but we have a new player right here? how is retail dying?
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>>587386374
>weekly "new player here" poster
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>>587386645
what exactly do you think you’re gonna be doing once you hit 60 in fagever?
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Weird. Why has the vault seemingly downgraded a 'heroic' tier piece to be inferior to even a normal piece?
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>>587385497
There's fishing+ score.
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>>587387278
because you did a heroic dungeon during the week which results in veteran track items in the vault
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>>587371000
Doesn’t even make you a tranny is very normal tier fetish.
People who live on the internet seem to think trannies are lurking behind every corner but they are in fact very rare. I have encountered 2 ever and heard of two more in my locale.
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>>587371000
These faggots are shitting up the whole site, not just /wowg/.
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>>587387242
gear up my fresh 60
raid
do dungeons
do battlegrounds
world pvp
farm for epic mount
max out professions and get better recipes
keep questing and enjoying vanilla writing
level alts

>b-but you can do all that in reta-
your moment-to-moment gameplay is absolute dogshit and your difficulty curve is atrociously designed where 99% of the content is easy braindead and the remaining 1% is so complex you need special add-ons

YOUR GAME FUCKING SUCKS NIGGA
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>SFK
>Alliance
>Warlock questline
>quest item doesn't drop
Roping immediately.
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>>587388570
so the exact same things you do in retail except without shitting your adult diaper because you’re too handicapped for a game with apm requirements above 10 KWAB

>enjoying vanilla writing
I guarantee you havent read a single line of quest fluff LMAOOO
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>>587389159
>muh apm
retail classes have like 60 apm I've gotten diamond in sc2 before lil gup which requires 250-300 apm your pathetic display of pretend superiority does not impress me in the least
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>>587389279
yet you’re here soiling your diaper over retail content being “too complex” LMAO
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>>587362119
Not enough RPers on the RP server, community not being a community but instead just a bunch of asshats running around stealing stuff and not grouping.
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>>587386645
>>587386645
good thing Leveling is less relevant in Forever than retail once you hit max level. You will be 60 forever, meanwhile I'll be level 90 soon.
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>>587386137
>>587386187
>>587387320
Fantastic
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>>587392061
https://www.wowhead.com/guide/the-war-within/professions/the-hallowfall-fishing-derby
https://www.wowhead.com/item=223286/kah-legend-of-the-deep
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is <nerub> active or is everyone still fucking around in forever?
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>>587376324
Turns out Horde players are the only people who want the War back in Warcraft and Alliance sissies have been larping as always.
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>thinking thinks wow forever will last forever
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https://www.wowhead.com/forever/news/secret-hunt-in-wow-forever-with-the-night-watchmans-torch-383145
https://www.wowhead.com/forever/news/new-dawn-waker-secret-found-in-wow-forever-383813
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>>587373760
gib woman
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>Anniversary next week
>Blizzards gift to retail to celebrate 22 years is abandoning it for a new fad before Xmas.
When will we take the axe to Ion and Holly's necks?
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>>587395675
>you played 22 years this shit? you know what, here's a gift for you - FUCK YOU
>*shuts down servers*
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>>587395675
We aren't even getting season 3 until February next year at this rate. We won't be seeing Last Titan until late 2027 at the earliest
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>>587395375
I mean yeah, if we're being literal, its logically inevitable that the official Forever servers will one day be shut down and everyone will get the chance to make obvious jokes about the irony
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>>587395675
>>587396012
>22 year celebration
>abandoning retail
>TLT comes out, it lasts like 2-3 years
>25 year celebration
>"Well, it's been 25 years, time to announce end of service - holy shit what a shitshow"
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>>587396352
you are fking AI bot
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>>587395675
>endgame gear locked behind $30 cash shop purchase
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>>587396874
meant for >>587395429
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Sex with troll women!
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Sex doesn't happen in the world of Warcraft, babies are brought by stalks
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>>587399057
spooning with dracthyr men!
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midnight!
kino!
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hugging and kissing with troll women
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>>587399651
is she even in midnight?
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What are some crazy mythical creatures we haven't yet seen in WoW?
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>>587399860
You're dad
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>>587399802
unfortunately
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>>587399942
Kul'Tirans are already in the game.
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>>587355539
This, stopped catering to LGBTQ, and brought back the level of T the game had in its early days. Shan't.
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>shadowlands hurt wow forever
>dragonflight made wow gay forever
>worldsoul saga killed storytelling forever
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Shit. It’s Tuesday. Now I have to decide between doing bonus rolls or playing forever for my wage cuck’s state mandated rest period. How do hormones do this??? It’s all too much…
I wonder if I can install wow on my work pc and pretend like I’m doing work. Or maybe I can bring the spare pc and hide it under my desk. Any of you wage cattle have any advice?
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>>587399651
Xally made me a footfag. I will never forgive blizzard for this.
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>>587400572
swap to part time and enjoy more freetime
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that new isle, its dead, lol it was me and some human pala doing some events
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any frost dk niggas?
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>>587401210
Ya what up
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>>587399860
Kludde!
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>>587401287
how much haste do you need to play frost? I see people gemming haste
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>>587401368
Honestly no idea I just acquired the bis stuff on the list
I’m using grit mas gems I have like half 90+ and half 95+ logs
I have 14% haste
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>>587401667
ok thanks I have like 19% but I feel like I have 0 runes and 0 rp sometimes and I'm just auto attacking
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what went wrong?
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>>587402416
the troll story was lame, looked like retards not badasses, but like bitches
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>>587402416
they crave human dick but there is not enough human men to go around and i can only be in 1 place at a time.
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>>587402416
The crones of 4 make men no more.
The girls will lead, the whites shall bleed.
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>>587388570
You dont need any addons, you just suck nigger. Players like you dont want to learn rotations you just want to press shit and win, well not how retail works. Classic you can fall asleep at your keyboard and still beat all the raids
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>250 posts
>no draenei butts
???
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>>587401350
Here's your disneyfied version
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>>587403842
he cute
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if you w̷̧̧̧̡̘̰̤̬̣̺̰̖͉̭͖͔͍̗̪͔̤̫̳̯̥̪̳͙͈̳͋͗̒́̋̊̇̈́͛̏̃͌̈́̿̈́̀͗̋̐̃̾̃͆͌̇̈́̿͗͊́̆̓̈̎̌͆͛̏͘̕͜͝͝͝ơ̶͕̫̠͎̝̹̖͖̬̗͔̫̠̈́̔̽̏̊͌͒̈̀̊͒͘̚͝͝ṛ̴̡̧̡̡̡͔̯̦͉̬̬͙̜̖̘̩̪̺̼͇͉̩̹̬̥̜̮̗̫̳͔͇͉̙͔̽̏́̇̆̀̃̂̇̎̾͌͐̐̂̂̾̏͑̏͊̆͌̿̓̇́̄͛̎̌̏͊̌́̿̄̑̇̉͋͑̋̽͒͛̿̉̕ͅḱ̸̡̡̡͎͚̰̬̰̩̪̗͕̩̦̭̮̠̙̙̝̤̘̥̝̹͇̟̭̗̘͚̝̪̝̠̤̩͖̻̦͛̽͐͛͋̌̔̾̇̂͒̆̽̌̊̊̈́̂̏͗̂͑̾͛̕̕̕͘͜͜͜͠͝ͅ hard
then you p̸̢̨̡̨̛̣̻̬͉͈̮̦̪̦̖̪̜̈͛͊̔̓̈́̾̈́̈̒̂͊̽̓̓̎̈́̑͋̀̚͠ļ̸̡̢̡̡̡̧̛̠̫̻̳͍͇̪͇̹̜̥̩͍̺̩̞̳͕̯͕̪̠̤̖̙͇̦̱̥͎̩̯̺̼̭̖͗̀̏͒̀͛͑͋̾̊͊̓̈̿͌̇̀̿̈̆̈́̽̌̍̑̚͜͜͝ͅà̷͕͈̱̠͓̘͊͒͌̓̽͆̀͘͝y̵̢̧͕̟͔̖̺͕̥̬͔̗̟̺̻͖͍̤̮̗̞̤̖͔͙̥͋̊̑͊͐͂̄͆͆͑̀̔̀̒̄͌͋̎̀̉̽̾̀̍̀̋̆͒͗͂̕̚̚͝͝͝͝ͅ ̵̢̢̧̢̛̥̩̼̘̝̗̯̺̥̙͍̖̰̻̝͕͈͕̙͖̥̞̣̪̮̹̳͈̞̟̩͇̯̥̯̣̺̼̥͉̩̜̝̟͈͊́̌͑̂̌̋͊̓͆͂́̾̆̽͑̍̋̈͊̌̇̓́̓͘͘͠͠͝hard
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>>587403696
I tried to post some once twice and got banned as a result
so...
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>>587404239
*rips ur dumb fckin eyebrows off*
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god troll women are so hot
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>>587404434
*dodges*
Your time has come
to die
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if you hard
then you hard
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Punished by troll women
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>>587404394
You're probably good as long as it is as tame as or tamer than
>>587345878
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>>587405686
in my opinion, it was
>https://we.tl/t-Nnz399mg9a29j4gs
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/wowfg/ moves faster because they need something to do during the 5 minutes it takes for mana to regenerate. We retail players are actually playing the fucking game.
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>>587408129
Yet you post here
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Butt licking slave to troll women
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>>587405642
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>>587406610
Makes me mad the final boss of the new raid wasn't a giant snake.
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>>587408795
This but grimtotem femtaurs
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I just did all shadowlands and DF raids for mog.
Shadowlands have no doubt the best raids theme-wise of all expansions.
DF on the other hand look terrible and aberrus looks too much like the first raid.
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>>587405642
Do Sally Trollmane
Jaina Proudtroll
Vanessa VanTroll
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>its another get drunk and watch my old kill vods night
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new player here, do I play retail or forever?

additional info: I REALLY like being a tranny and gay. when I was 8 my uncle raped me which made me have faggot thoughts, so I asked my mom and she said im a tranny and need to transition. now I am a 48 year old balding agp troon
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>>587411051
Try Evercold
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>>587410965
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>>587411051
neither
>>587411104
don't make him waste money on dead games
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why no guild want me
i am good healer
i have good logs
i have a good app
but im getting no responses
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>Moon Guard's population is actually down even more today than it was a day after Forever release
...
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this game needs more elves
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>>587410907
Shadowlands raids were hard too which is why they all left to play ffxiv. None of them could even finish Castle Nathria on normal
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bro why as i started playing retail and having fun retail fucking dies and goes eos
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>>587412372
Everyone is just waiting on 12.2.
>>
Hear me out

4 zones
8 dungeons
10 delves
8 raid bosses
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>>587412510
let's be honest, no one is coming back for patch 12.2.
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>>587413002
Let's not be facetious. Everyone is on the edge of their seats waiting for Ringing Deeps 2 with more nepobaby Arator and vagueposting Xal'atath content.
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>>587412918
that sounds awesome
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>>587412319
>yessir, Mr. Bogdanelf sirs, we are happy to report we have achieved what we feel is maximum possible sales and player count on WoW: Recycled Forever!

>Good. Dump eet.

>Sirs?????

>Dump eet immediately

>But.... but sirs! We invested so much in a modern generationally aware blanket. advertisement campaign.... daily stimulation for this low attention gacha-addicted generation sirs!

>Dump eet. Instruct the internet celebrity overlords to begin spreading negativity bout thee game.

>But sirs!!! We've invested so much! We've staked the company's future on thi-

>Dump eet. Dump eet now.
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>>587413002
People are going to start quitting forever in waves after reaching 60 and raidlogging. People will definitely be back for 12.2
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>>587413510
People will start quitting forever in waves before that. Let's be real, the majority of people are never reaching 60.
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>>587412319
Agreed
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>>587413510
no one is coming back till tlt. those who quit forever will likely go play other games
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>>587413510
>People will definitely be back
People hate retail and Forever gave them hope.
It was last chance for Blizzard before real WoW 2.0 which they will never do.
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>>587413470
kek
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mN8N5O5ru0

OG WINNING BIGLY
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Playing WoW for the first time. Picked Draenei Shaman. Hybrid melee/spellcasting is a really cool class fantasy to me, so I'm going Enhancement. Paladin and Death Knight are on the list for alts too because of that.
Decided to use the timewalking campaign thing from Chromie to level in Outland first, having a good time in Zangarmarsh. Retail's design seems like it really wants to funnel you into the newest stuff right away, but I want to go through all the old expacs in order at least once to experience all the game that I missed. Though apparently there's a weird restriction with this Chromie thing that disables the level scaling once you hit 80, I kinda hate that; I want to play through all the expacs on-level, not get told "you're too big for these maps, go to newest one now". It's a shame really, all these maps, all these quests are still here, but the game doesn't want you to play any of them.
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>>587413470
>Meester Kotick... Since when were you under the impression that were in control of thees company?
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>>587415492
there's an npc that locks your exp gain so you can stay in chromie time as long as you want
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nelf pussy...
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>>587416038
this but troll pussy
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i regret playing alliance when i came back a month and a half ago and i should have just played horde right away. i fell for the nelf honeytrap again just like i did in 2004. well good thing i've got buku horde characters to dust off ready to roll and gear up for pvp
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>>587416038
the nussy..
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>>587415742
Yeah, but the game doesn't tell you about them directly from what I've seen. So if you don't consult the wiki first you'll get forced out without knowing. Does it give you a prompt to talk to them when you get close to the threshold?
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>>587415695
he's so happy about this
>>
seriously though, how did they manage to get so many kids to fall for Forever? like yes they really nailed it with the advertising but honestly it's baffling to see it in action. like you go to the Forever thread and you see kids posting modern anime and gacha characters, no adult is gonna be posting shit like that in a World of Warcraft thread, we're talking 20 or below kids. and they got roped into playing a game designed for a generation of players so vastly different from their own and what they're accustomed to nowadays. it's just wild to see, it's impressive more than anything. Blizzard's deployment of Forever is no doubt being studied and replicated as we speak.
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>>587417550
the answer is simply modern WoW is shit and people are desperate for it to be good again.
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>>587415695
>HavenStudios
OH NO NO NO NO NO
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>>587417550
Why no one ever copies Blizzard? Is there a catch or something?
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Confess
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>>587417995
Gosh, I wish bimbodoreis were real
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>>587417984
lol what, people have been copying blizzard for over 20 years to the point where it literally spawned the "wow clone" genre

retail is simply the only one that has had staying power because as much as the doomer boomers hate to admit, it's fun
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>>587418183
How many games there are with WoW combat then?
Please list them all.
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>>587418389
off the top of my head?

ff14
champions online
wildstar
4story
rift
swtor

but there's like dozens of other deceased semi-obscure dead wow clones I wouldn't be able to name without googling lol
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>>587418389
if you have to ask then you were either too young or just not paying attention during the heights of the WoW close generation
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Hey /losing to forever furfag concentration camp/ a NEW video from our FAVORITE YouTuber just dropped!
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>>587419443
You've made this exact same video like 3 times in a row, mick.
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>>587419443
buy an ad
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>>587419567
he's been making 80,000$ per WoW Forever video compared to the measly couple hundred he made from his well researched retail WoW stuff.
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>>587415492
>first time
>using chromie time

Sure bud
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>>587420814
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFpK_r-jEXg

reminds me of this video kek
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>nochesty made his own thread where he spams dozens of his screenshots
>>586774347
no different than when furries made their own threads lol
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they really love shittalking retail on forever lol
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>>587420913
I looked up stuff about playing old content becuase I specifically wanted to got through old expacs first. Honestly, it should be better signposted to new players, it's just kinda sitting there if you aren't looking for it.
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>>587424439
You can't use chromie time as a new player. You are forced to go through Dragonflight
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the main flaw in retail compared to forever is the ability to fly right away, wod and legion were right in locking it behind an achievement
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>>587424593
that was removed during TWW I think but they still funnel you into the newer expansions.

>>587415492
Enjoy your shaman anon, try the cata leveling zones, they're the closest thing we have to vanilla zones.
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>>587424593
Not anymore, wiki page says the unlock requirements were removed in 2023.
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>>587419443
I hate this faggots face so much
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>>587424698
Only if it was built for it, DF, TWW and Midnight all suuuuuuuuuuck to level without a flying mount. I did it with ground mounts exclusively for my first character and the levels are clearly not meant for it.
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is maye really supposed to be one of /wowg/'s best rpers? i had a threesome with him and someone else, and let's just say his writing was not that great
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>>587425674
maye's admitted to not even rolling on an RP server until DF and within months started talking like he was some longtime veteran and not a tourist
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>>587425674
What was it like?
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>>587355230
Haranir foot gf where?
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forever wonnered biggerly
the massive success never seen before by blizzard
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why are bm hunters suddenly the best dps for keys?
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>>587429265
they scale really well with big pulls
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>>587429612
and no one knew before? or they are only good now with super high ilvl
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>>587429662
they were good before too
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>>587429749
I believe you but I guess I never saw one when I was pooshin
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>>587403516
Your argument is made completely invalid by the fact that not a single Mythic raiding guild plays without extensive add-on use.

Idiot.
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>>587430612
>every player in the NBA uses custom shoes therefore you need custom shoes to score in basketball
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THEY HONEYMOON PERIOD IS OVER Y'ALL
RETAIL FINNA COME BACK FOR REAL
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>>587402416
A list of things, but the one that irks me the most was how they unnecessarily just completely emasculated the Amani and took away any credibility they had.
The main draw of the split Troll empires was most of them split off to continue hunting Old God forces when they were put on the backfoot and started running. As far as we knew, the Amani were the only ones to hunt down Kith'ix and his forces by themselves without some extra assistance like Titan Keeper intervention.

But naaaaaah, instead now it was just a few of them went crazy and decided to summon something comparable to how they view Gods, but also not really a God, but also is a Loa while also not really being a Loa in the sense they know... Straight out of the secondary adjacent to Hell that we know of, which doesn't contradict stuff like Xavius hanging out there at all!
THIS thing was the thing that actually won that fight for them, Trolls were sacrificed in the thousands just to make sure they could get the win, and its absolutely the whole reason things were quiet on the Eastern Kingdoms all this time.
We can't just have Trolls having a win, that's stupid. Why would we ever imply they were a considerable force to reckon with that gave the Elves trouble for generations.

It's really boggling with all that shit with Zul'jarra, you'd think putting a woman forefront they'd try to make them look even better than before. Even on the terrible Peacecraft angle, have her step up as a big strong competent leader... But no. She's sidelined in all her stories.
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>>587431892
>She's sidelined in all her stories.
Liadrin is the mc
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Retail doesn't want to tell stories about groups, nations, and cultures. It wants to tell melodramatic soap operas about a handful of elves that also can't express most human emotions and can't suffer too much because it would make the writers cry.
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>>587433445
They really like to point out that Elves came from Trolls. Like how some insane liberals push that out of africa theory when its already been debunked.
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>>587433687
take your meds, schizo
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Post your top 3 npcs for dating and possibly marriage purposes.
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my pink color glasses nostalgia took the best of me
I'm back on wow, ilvl 289 demolock, can I still get 3000 rio?
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>>587433687
Okay, but its not an adjacent fabrication in this fantasy setting, they actually did. The Elves even acknowledged as such.

Or even if you want to lean into the recent 'retcon' with the Haranir bullshit logic that Blizz went on immediate damage control with, that's an even worse variant of 'where they came from' since it nonsensically split into two despite the immense contradictions of other worldly assets saying one is older than the other.
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>>587435515
finding tanks might be even harder than usual with s2 being what it is and forever going on but yes easily

this season is a joke
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>>587435731
Troll to Elf origin story is a retcon introduced in Cataclysm
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>>587436104
That's not a retcon, that's just added onto.
Pretty much everything we knew about Elves just kept on talking about these things 10 to 15 thousand plus years ago, then someone else decided to expand the Old God stuff a bit more saying "So anyway, even further back than that, this Titan ripped a motherfucker out of the ground which made a well of power, Trolls were near it and deformed into Elves."
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>>587436674
The Troll stuff was added later on.
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>>587431892
femworg spotted
don't tell her this, but she kinda looks fucking stupid with the lurid green getup and the mspaint blue weapon
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>>587438060
Someone forced that dog out of bed to raid and this is all she had.
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>/wowg/ vs /wowgf/

They are trying to make /wowg/ obsolete and make it move to /vm/
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dead general, dead game.
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>>587439794
Yea 90:10 pvp server and rerolling over and over when you get to 25-30 is alot better.
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>>587439714
I should add wowgf to this
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>>587437269
Yeah no shit, thats what I said idiot.
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>>587440151
>people hate the nochesty thread more than the furry thread.
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>>587440507
turns out people that stick around wowg after Forever launched really really hate Forever
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>>587440714
Or would rather not talk both to save confusion.
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wowg is obsolete its gonna be moved to /vm/
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>>587440714
i don't
i'm playing the shit out of it
but wowfg is
1. full of faggots
2. too fast to use
and this is MY TURF that i refuse to abandon the ceegee fags just accepted some retard rebranding their thread, i really liked those guys and now id have to read through so much fucking tripe to see their posts
that's not happening here
kinda bummed the thread is so slow tho
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>>587441712
imagine what she's doing to him with her tongue
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>>587440714
I don't hate Forever. I just don't care to be in threads to talk about a game I'm not playing.
Not to mention we didn't combine with Classic, why do it with Forever. If anything, Classic and Forever at the two that should combine, their differences aren't nearly as major.
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>>587440714
I hate blizzard for making forever
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>>587440714
I love Forever but im trying not to play it when my friends are offline so i don't out level them and the only way to do that is just avoid talking about it so im not tempted to play.
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>>587440507
Everyone hates furtroon threads
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I got bamboozled.
I fell for the Forever hype.
But it's already returned to being shit.
The quests are slow, cumbersome, tedious, awkwardly placed and awkwardly paced.
Constant backtracking.
Constant competition for mobs and nodes.
People sniping things left and right.
Everything's super expensive but also mostly useless.
Gear options suck.
Half the specs in the game are horrific nightmares to level with, so running dungeons is a pain in the ass due to shortages of tanks and healers.
Playing a Hybrid is an exercise in masochism because the hybrid tax is still in effect.
They didn't bring enough good changes from future patches back to Forever. And the stuff they did bring back only serves to highlight the things they didn't bring but should have.
I'm more likely to run out my sub playing Retail than Forever, because at least I can clear content and fully level a character and maybe even afford a token on Retail.
Forever is just an exercise in punching myself in the groin.
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>>587434616
Top 1 for sure
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Every damn leatherworking guide is telling me something different. I just want to get from 110 to 150.
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>>587444302
it's acceptable to fall for the WoW: Recycle scam once in your life. I fell for Classic back in 2019, had the same reaction as you're having right now after roughly the same amount of time.
I did however return to playing proper WoW after that and played for a few years before taking another break and just returning again recently
there's no shame in falling for it once, just don't fall for it again the next time they do it
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>>587444302
I quit after day 2 when I realized how much I hate that slow leveling. I experienced it back in the day I dont feel the need to again
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>>587445595
You are the reason WoW is so shit these days
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>>587447543
I prefer retail
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>>587449751
Same but also because it has Draenei women
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>>587431892
Eh, I thought it was pretty normal for the theme and general apocalyptic power of the old gods that you needed some kind of divine edge of your own to overcome them and no mortal empire on their own could hope to defeat them with pure martial might
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they really killed retail for forever
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>>587450567
Well yeah, but it wasn't the Old Gods themselves, they were already imprisoned. It was just the remnants of the black empire after they were made leaderless. And while some like the Drakkari got some aid when they hunted theirs up North from the various Titan created beings (Earthen, Mechagnomes, Vrykul) at the same time, there was no such help out East where the Amani went. Part of what separated them as a rather substantial force compared to the other Trolls, and probably emphasized by why they're so much more buff.
Not even much of a Loa aid factor to them either, they discovered Loas in the area after they dealt with the threat and settled in.
Thats partly what made them
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>>587444302
Blizzard would print Valve levels of money if Forever had all quests retouched to remove the annoying aids shit while keeping the total lack of gameplay depth, but they didn't have the balls to deal with fat beer sipping retards who would cry that things changed.
Is it really core to the Classic+ experience that Hemet Nesingwary quests in STV require 10 kills but have 5 mobs on the map with 4 minute respawns each? Who the fuck wants to do that?
Not to mention Blizzard were so lazy they fucked up on avoiding one thing Classic actually does have going for it, which is actual faction diversity, by launching Forever with pretty elves as a neutral race. Retail didn't even slop up the game with neutral races until fucking MISTS and even then their cross-faction status was a big deal in the story.
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>>587451785
are you really still in the grief phases? it was over weeks ago, all that time you spent in retail is in the bin now nigga, it's time to move on
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>>587453131
You obviously haven't been playing because areas are so fucked right now that I can just sit in one area and farm mobs that respawn within 20 seconds of each other. Even the dreaded Hidden Enemies skull rock quest was done in 2 minutes just farming mobs at the front of the cave.

>launching Forever with pretty elves as a neutral race.
This shit was retarded though, I'll give you that
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So, can Horde players explain why they went to the evil edgy "noble savages" faction... only to end up playing light worshiping HUMANS like they have in the Alliance?

Instead of being a cool shamanistic or warlocky orc, instead of being a hippie or badass tauren, instead of being a stabby or voodoo troll... they choose to be light worshiping humans.

At that point... why go horde? You clearly want to be human and have human culture and human classes lmao
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I kinda love the stupid amount of housing items you just acquire by playing. But we've probably reached the point where ppl aren't buying crafted housing items anymore cuz there's just so much shit avail. Easy fix here is for crafted items to be truly 1of1 unique. A look people who want will level an alt or shop for. They can't just be rando accents nobody cares about. It's just a waste to use a crafted slot for something like that.
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>>587454070
because forsaken are unique and new, retard

we just got a whole wc3 campaign selling us on it. I don't even like forsaken and I want to make one based on that
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>>587454404
>we just got a whole wc3 campaign selling us on it.

You mean the campaign following more humans doing human things and humans sacrificing themselves to save the world like Jesus because of Human Potential?

Even when joining the Horde, Hordies still wanna be human lmao.
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YOU are NO VILEBRANCH!
You FIGHT like MY AMANI!
Take of de spoils of my chamber...
And may de Loa bless you.
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>>587454694
no, I mean the campaign that focuses on the forsaken and their culture/city that ends with them joining the Horde because of how they've been persecuted.
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>>587454404
>released as one of the core 8 races in 2004
>new
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>>587455017
>I mean the campaign that focuses on the forsaken and their culture/city

The one in which half of it you play as human with huma units and a human warrior protagonist? And then turns into a human undead protagonist? And ends up saving the world?

>because of how they've been persecuted.

Nothing screams persecuted more than Sylvanas sitting in the throne like a girl boss while a Tauren man comes to kneel to the queen of the undead humans.
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>>587355716
Here's a guuuuy...
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>>587455203
I obviously meant forsaken paladins

>>587455647
The FORSAKEN character saves the world. He's human for like 2 missions and it's to showcase what he's lost when he dies. The entire identity of the forsaken is that they are FORMER humans (and elves) that were shunned by their society.

BTW it doesn't really matter, people chose Forsaken in Forever because they want to be pallys, their unique to Forever (for now) and nobody likes the blue elves.
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>>587456183
>The FORSAKEN character

The dead human who still looks human but with more rotten skin?

It's funny to see Horde players spend decades saying High Elves shouldn't be added to the Alliance because "THEY ARE JUST BLOOD ELVES WITH BLUE EYES REEE" but here you are claiming humans with a broken ugly jaw are suddenly not human anymore lmao.
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the forsaken player model is and always has been fucking trash
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>>587456995
I just don't want to wear shorts everywhere
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>>587454070
Them racials
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What races is forever getting next if it can't be existing playable ones from retail? Ogres and outland naga? I feel those two make the most sense as many of the other non playable races are barely sentient. Both are tied to outland. Ogres are already in the horde and alternate history allows the possibility of Illidan being forced to retreat back to Azeroth. It's a huge stretch, but he could be allowed into the alliance with his naggas if he approaches stormwind instead of the night elves. EK alliance races would be more diplomatic and reasonable.

Draconid and dragonkin are chill, but they have always been their own factions aligned with their flight. Gnolls and murlocs are barely above animals. Centaur could work. Quillboar.. no? Idk what their deal is but they seem a bit fucked up. Satyr are demons and we aren't at the love and tolerance stage of wow yet. High elfs never ever forever. It's clearly a funny blizzard gag at this point to keep denying them playability and I don't see that changing.

It's slim pickings without retail races being allowed
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>>587453402
>Areas are so fucked right now
I'm playing it, retard, it's incredibly inconsistent.
Redridge was a fucking nightmare because spawns were so fast it was impossible to not get gangfucked by shit spawning right underneath you. Alternatively, zones like Arathi or Hillsbrad for example have some quests with puke dogshit drop rates and spawn rates that make the game pulling teeth
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>>587458189
Ogre is an obvious lock in for Horde. I could see Tuskarr for Alliance over something like Naga, Gnolls or Furbolg.

I'd kill for some freaky little dudes though. Give me Murloc or Kobolds.

I could see them updating current races with allied race customization and a new class (Dark Iron with Mage, Zandalari with Pally type thing)
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>>587459043
could be that I'm on OCE RP PVP server but I've never experienced any of this
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>>587458189
>Ogres and outland naga?
You fuckin' think they actually will cave in and give people want they want when it requires effort?
They'll reskin something else popular and nonsensical to make a neutral race and guarantee purchases. Arctic Vulpera or something dumb like that.
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>>587459172
Forgot kobolds and Furbolg. Was mostly thinking of races from EK or Kalimdor. Furbolgs could work on alliance. Probably have a decent relationship with nelfs and I doubt they like the orc forest raping. Kobolds are little shits and exist solely to inconvenience miners it seems. Purely a force of chaos I can't imagine being on either faction.

>>587459562
I doubt it, but I want to believe. Probably get leper gnomes, dark irons, or another elf reskin.
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https://n.uguu.se/JyecPWsh.png
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>>587459756
Why would you doubt it, they didn't even release they game before breaking their no retail races rule and adding reskinned blood elves.
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>>587401350
Dreamrift boss Chimerus is literally just this though
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Man this stupid spat takes on a whole new light knowing the snakes would have stayed locked up if Arator hadn't taken the blow for jamboy
Whole raid tier is partially your fault halfbreed, same for Orwhena but she's actually in the storyline expressing guilt and helping whereas mr. daddy-issues doesn't exist this patch (which I'm not complaining about)

She tells him off for not being able to keep the dangerous energy HE relies on in check but ah I can look in my dungeon journal and see who the final boss of this raid is, Alleria
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>>587461775
>hmm should i cast any number of paladin abilities like blessing of protection or divine shield? no i will simply stand in front of him mid swing
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>>587461775
Why did blizzard think we would view Turalyon as a toxic male chud after this scene? Total incompetence. Made him more sympathetic. Feel bad for the guy having a retard wife and son.
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>>587462660
He just casts Intervene like a Warrior
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>>587463285
anon any questions you have about how stupid the story is, is explained by the granny council
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>>587361137
Love slop.
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>>587461775
Arator caused thousands of trolls and Liadrin to die pointlessly considering both Zuljan and Turalyon were down to fight each other
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>>587464167
that fuckin photo of arator, it kills me dude
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>>587464167
Arator knew letting Zuljan live would result in more troll deaths. More souls for the maw...
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>>587464634
>arator...he's..collected all the sigils..
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My character routinely brushes off smacks from gods, fucken half-elf pussy traumatized over one sword swing
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>>587458189
Leaks say Worgen + Gilneas for Alliance and Darkfallen elves with maybe Ghostlands and Quel'thalas for Horde.

The idea would be the High Elves never fall to demonic corruption so they never become Blood Elves. Instead, Quel'thalas becomes an elven version of the Undercity, filled with Undead Elves.
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>>587465209
That would make them cash. Furries all rollin horde for tauren, then all faction changing to alliance for Worgen. Blizzard you fucking geniuses. Charge em for the race pack and the faction change. That's millions of dollars for nearly zero effort.
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Hello promoters? blizz employees?
Do you wanna get fired or lose your job?

Why is this general so empty?
You don't want to get paid? because that is how you will stop being paid.

You'll get paid 20% extra if you keep this general active and organic.
What the fuck are you doing?
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>>587434616
All the good ones have been ruined by blizzard
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god i wish i were my dracthyr
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>>587468260
I looked up Hohentauern, looks like a great place to fly first
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>>587468461
i meant the hohe(n) tauern mountain range not the town of the same pronunciation at the eastern end of the alps
the pictures don't do it justice
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Being a Dracthyr irl would have potential. Flight would be sweet, but visage form with no gameplay restrictions would be better. Visage form as some billionaire and just steal his identity. Get caught and then you can just turn into essentially a cryptid to fly away and everyone would think it was made up. Probably immune or incredibly resistant to most civilian weapons as magic doesn't exist. You would have magic though so not much could threaten you. I tell you I would never wage slave again.
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what if the retail writing team didn't have a single californian?
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>gee mr undead quest giver, whatever could you want me to do
>oh poisoning something like the last 20 times? that guys dog? oh ok. oh now make this guy drink something made out of bear eyes as an "experiment" but it just kills them like literally all of the previous ones did?
im actually a bit annoyed by now
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>abloobloo story bad bloobloo
who gives a shit jesus christ, get a new script
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>>587471798
>get a new script
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>>587472041
kek
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>>587470082
I think we need to ban californians from the game industry altogether.
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Easily the most depressing near end of a season yet. Fuck Forever and the sheep that play it.
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>>587473105
>"end"
we're still 3 months away from patch 12.2
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>make half-assed retail lite version of old wowie
>this kills retail
Imagine if Forever was actually good, retail would stop getting any sort of dev time, retail is lucky that their population eats up any skin Blizz puts on sale because otherwise that shit would be a waste of time lol
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>>587473405
Yeah 'end of season' is the last month. I said newar that. It's also early January, that isn't 3 months away.
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>2 worlos
>both under the same subscription
>worlo is deeeeeeeaaaaad!!!!11

I find these statements contradictory
or are wowowawa players, perchance, retarded?
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>>587474573
>are wowowawa players, perchance, retarded?
Yes, look at this one
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>>587403696
>>587357757
>>587355041
welp anons I might lose
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>>587362119
As usual with classic, game just starts to feel tiresome in that 25-30 range.

I suppose if you’re playing in a group every session it’s more enjoyable, but playing solo and low drop rates just gets old after awhile.
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>>587363205
Thinking retail players enjoy it because of Mythic+ is a huge misconception.
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>>587362119
Because classic is boring as shit lol. The only enjoyment I get out of classic reharshes is seeing all the "RETAIL IS OVER EVERYONE IS PLAYING CLASSIC" slowly quiet down as people quit.
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>>587363205
more people do lfr than m+ btw and the absolute vast majority of people do m+ because it gives you literal free loot
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>>587475865
I do m+ because I enjoy small party content
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>>587475865
>more people
I'd wager it's a vast understatement to say "more people". I'd wager it's more like a typical 90%/10% split of active subbers who don't do M+ and maybe have never even touched M at all much less M+
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>>587475967
noodled that fudgepacker
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i see people complaining on both wowfg and xitter about things retail QoL solved years ago yet they won’t touch the game. god i hate slow in the brain boomer unc faggots so much
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szUVAEczVvU

Level 60, riveting gameplay
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>>587476581
The most vocal complaints are about changes to vanilla not things it lacks thoughevers
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>>587476581
Just mentally filter out the complaints from boomertards who haven't played the game in like 20 years and their parrots. Retail could be perfect in every way and they'd still find a way to complain that it's not like the game they played 25 years ago.

It's the equivalent of caring what indian and nigerian blue checkmarks on xitter post.
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if retail did sub only like runescape 4 it would survive. my fucking normgroid friends randomly picked up wow forever and i think it being sub obly to was the incentive.
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Is there a way in the Blizz UI to get alerts when the enemy is casting something kickable or has a buff that's dispellable?
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>>587476581
yeah I had to stop going to wowfg because of this, it stopped being fun and entertaining the moment they got ahold of the game. judging by a lot of the comments and the opinions in there you have a lot of kids looking for exactly the game retail is, but refuse to play it because it's not "the current thing" or whatever. We'll maybe not EXACTLY the game retail is, but this game is certainly a whole heel of a lot closer to what they're looking for than Forever will ever be
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WE ARE SO BACK
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>>587477020
there are audio cues you can turn on for enemy casting
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idk why im even getting to 60 on Forever when i know raids are going to be fucking abysmal and a huge waste of time without personal loot
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>>587478298
This is ultimately why I uninstalled. Leveling is boring as shit, my character looks retarded and for what? Raidlogging 1 hour a week?
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man you niggas just seething at forever daily and thread also might fucking die if you stop
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>>587477096
>gallbladder gets blocked, dies and starts rotting
Scary.
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>>587478298
Sure they won’t be challenging but it should be fun to see once or twice, ultimately raids in classic are supposed to be a social experience and they will be less enjoyable without that element
>>587478424
Leveling is fun once in a blue moon but it’s kind of hellishly boring after a while so much so that you just want to be done
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>>587472690
Smart girl
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>>587475012
The game is meant to be played with others, especially back then. Even just one friend makes the game so much easier (and more fun)
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>>587472690
Stupid girl
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>>587482991
>not even classic+ can make this retard happy
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sex with chromie
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>>587485942
Chrommie is trans
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>>587486017
ok and
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>>587486017
She's a shapeshifter, every fucking dragon is trans.
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>>587486140
I want dragon gf
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the real sign of WoW's death is that rule34 is increasingly rare
it's all aislop now
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>streamers, would anyone think of the streamers!
thank god they've all fucked off from retail
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Got banned again for calling someone a retard in trade chat. I hate these power tripping normalfaggots
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>>587486843
i got kicked from a guild for saying faggot. a guild i had spent 6 years in.
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dead general smells like doodoo
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>dailies
>weeklies
>currency
so much busy work, now I remember why I quit retail
I just want to hop back on M+
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>>587485141
He hasn't wanted to play WoW or much of video games in years, he wants to be a political commentator
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>>587487947
It's just that WoW and other woke games are bad
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new chris metzen just dropped
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>>587487774
what's stopping you?
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>>587487774
I will never understand why the retarded redditors bitch so much about currencies
must be low iq
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>>587488349
Heh
Fucking boomers man
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Atleast Blizzard is not taking down old machinimas compared to nintendo

be happy
DO YOU HEAR ME

BE HAPPY
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>>587487774
Which dailies and weeklies do you need to do for M+?
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>>587491307
clicking on the bonus roll npc once a week o algo
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>>587491498
delete this shit now
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>>587491307
omnion curio
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are you fucking snibbing me?
cyberpunk
ad
in battle.net
FUCK OFF BLIZZZARD
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>>587492837
what, you only do that once and it’s like 5 quests total
pretty sure alts dont even need to do the quests they just start with it maxed
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>>587491082
mwah
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the wagon is only interesting event in the vaults
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>>587461775
>>587464167
>Letting Zul'jan live allows him to summon Ula'tek
>Killing Ula'tek frees Kith'ix
>Fighting Kith'ix gives Orweyna a vision of Xal'atath attacking the worldcore, giving us the exact knowledge of where to go
>Protecting Zul'jan is the only reason we have a chance of saving Azeroth
Arator is owed an apology, and his detractors are to be detained and questioned under suspicion of being agents of the Void.
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>>587497809
>Fighting Kith'ix gives Orweyna a vision of Xal'atath attacking the worldcore, giving us the exact knowledge of where to go
this shit is so comical to me, it's the most arbitrary rationale possible because their writing just assumes literally no character speaks to each other or even exists offscreen so the characters are over 2 years behind the audience in knowing the basic motivation of the villain
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The Last Titan is coming soon.
This general will be 900 posts per hour then.

What do you think?
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>>587498458
The Wolvar will save WoW
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let me hug ye!
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>>587498458
I think I can’t wait for this retarded trilogy to end
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A world revamp makes no sense for retail when only 20k or so people are still playing it.

Forever will get the world revamp.
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women
hahahah
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>>587502058
erm… googoo gaga baby hungry lol
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Hissss...
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>>587502058
ass too big
proportions are the most important
just making everything bigger doesn't make a woman more attractive
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Who's the Xi Jinping of the Warcraft universe
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>>587498940
is that a pouch of veteran dawncrests in your ...pocket?
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>>587502169
I cant believe alliance got diaper gnomes instead of these guys
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Load up Tanaris Classic Ambience music

Accidently click the retail version and its a hundred times worse
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>>587472690
I see why Maye simps for her.
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https://x.com/Grummz/status/2120360374423924945

NEW NUBLIZZARD SCANDAL
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rate my warband
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>>587502350
that's my purse!
I DON'T KNOW YOU!
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>>587503241
Cute foxes!
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>>587503241
imagine the smell
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>>587503241
Dog water/10
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>>587503241
Midnight killed this general
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>>587503549
uh?
I remember in S1 there were a few anons still doing M+ at season launch and then when bonus rolls came out
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>>587503050
kern still LARPing as an insider that every employee in the studio including simultaneously worships and leaks to and needed him to tell them how to make classic but also they all hate him and will stop at nothing to destroy him and the chuds
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>>587503702
there’s no point responding to doomniggers
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I seriously hate this company.
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Go look at esfand's new 30 minute video on "this is what paladins are meant to be like" blah blah wow forever w/e the title is

I want to talk about this... When is the last time esfand even played retail? I know he is some giga-loser private server player that made his name from there for whatever reason, but i honestly don't care about any of that, and neither should anyone else.

RE: his video, has he ever done anything like this on retail in m+???? No? Who cares. This is embarrassing.
Soap is a really good healer in m+ too, she must be thinking how cute it is that he's sat here explaining all the item choices and buffs behind pulling 8 npcs lol it's just horrible how badly classic players think they're good and that this gameplay is deep.

Why are classic players so assured in their position that what they do in the game, what the achieve, accomplish, is some kind of technical skilled gamer feat? It's pathetic!!!

>>587503802
Yes and reading this post gave me a negative outlook towards TLT if thats the kind of devs they have working over there and the first-world-problems they put up with, Holly is definitely not stern enough with these 'people'
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>>587503783
how this general survived Shadowlands I'll never know
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>>587503050
Grummz will be 80 on his death bed and still claiming he has current sources at a company he's been gone from for 40 years and an industry he was blacklisted from for 30 years at that point lmao
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>>587504045
>how this general survived
Mazed players
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>>587503802
my question is did everyone clap after?
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>>587504045
SL had the OG raids and lawsuit that made it easy to shitpost and pump post counts up. MN's retardation is so severe it's actively painful trying to mock it, it's just a sad sight now.
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>>587504045
even if not a single person was subbed zivvies single handedly kept it alive raiding it 24/7

the point is that this game has had more shit expansions and patches than you can count, it doesn’t matter when it’s all seasonal
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If there is male surplus in China how come I can pay 60€ to cum inside a chinese whore no condom needed and make them lick my ass clean? I don't even live in a big or touristy city. Wouldn't it make more sense for them to go back to china and get married?
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>>587503802
You know who his source is? Albert Einstein.
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>>587505141
Source is blizzard employs leaking to other blizzard employes.
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>>587503802
lmfao you guys love fanfiction huh? blizzard is a company, it's not the government, and so the first amendment is not relevant to their operations, they can ban anyone for any reason just as any other company can. i wish people had iq
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more like queer ass
lmoa
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>>587505681
markie is making shit up as usual but a company banning a huge figure for no reason is just really bad optics and they’d have to explain the following drama to daddy activision
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>>587505843
>named curry
>steaming toilet bowl in the background
how am i supposed to interpret this
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>>587506008
It's smarter to just wait him out, he's already bored because he's too depressed to do anything but react to videos put in front of him now and ragebait Israel First politics
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>>587505843
the colors of your mog don't match retard
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>>587505843
prettiest drachtyr i’ve ever seen no joke
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>>587506143
lame
>>587506476
they do
>>587506496
thank you so much!
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>>587506008
I'm pretty sure they know banning him is giving him exactly what he wants too. Just wait the fucker out, he'll leave on his own and have no "content" about it.
Don't feed the troll and all that.
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>>587506695
wym lame I put a lot of effort into my post
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wowg supports blizzrael
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>>587508390
no I just like their game
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current patch daily questing zones are dead
no people
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>>587509585
you are a lying nigger
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>>587506773
>she thinks trillion dollar microsoft gives a fuck about asmonroach
lol
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>>587510395
go check the vaults
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So dual spec is only available at level 40 and costs 50 fucking gold?
I'm pretty bummed. I am enjoying Fury Warrior but want to try Prot out and was hoping to level Fury while running dungeons with my friends as Prot but now i'm just demoralized. Should I just main Prot?
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>>587511805
you don't need dual spec to reset your talents dumbass
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>>587511897
It costs 1g to respec and I was told this price increases every subsequent respec making it not viable after a couple of times doing it.
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>>587511805
You can tank to cap as whatever spec so long as you’re not a bleeding vagina
Literally didn’t see any of the sweats on anni fresh even bother with a shield
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>>587511325
you lying nigger
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Which of my characters should I be gearing right now, Fury Warrior or Subtlety Rogue?
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I think forever is trash and I’d rather play literally anything else instead
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>>587512416
More people than in Zinal Zantasy Troonteen
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>>587511964
>increases
1g then 5g then 10g capped i believe. you don't need to be full prot to tank although it obviously helps. just slap on a shield and defensive stance you should be good to go
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SHIT
I DIDNT DO MY VAULT LAST WEEK
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>>587512416
he’s obviously talking about vaults of ulatek you dumb fuck
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>>587512547
ok bye
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there is even people on Valdrakken

On fucking Valdrakken
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>>587512741
>feign being other poster when you're obviously the OP
>Moving goalposts
>Take screenshot of ulathek with people there
>Uh I was talking agbout the great vault akshually
Die
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>>587512860
eu draenor sissyboy
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i want futa nelf gf
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>>587513007
retard
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Worg Wednesday..
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>>587514969
wife wednesday
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>>587514969
i love cuddle demons
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>>587515645
imagine the warmth
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which warlock spec is the most comfy and fun right now
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>retoilet end of service
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>>587516483
MY NAME IS JOHN NINTENDO AND ANTI-ALIASING KILLED MY FAMILY
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>>587516483
2 more weeks bro just 2 more weeks this time for sure bro
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wow live & forever
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>>587505843
kek retoilet baldo
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Max said that retail is dead and that liquid will pivot to other games. Probably more rwf guilds will stop playing retail.
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It's starting to come together.
I need some nice lights and wall accents though
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>>587515774
Destro
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>>587518048
wish I could be bothered to do something with my house
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can we add naked dracthyrs in our house and place them on the bed yet?
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>>587518160
NTA
I've redone the architecture of my draenei home so many times that I got bored
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>>587518508
Just invite a friend over
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Xhe... is still...pla-
*dies*
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>>587519756
Why foxes?

just play Tauren?
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>>587518004
Post link
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>>587502350
do goatwives like their buttholes tongued
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>>587519756
I love vulpera so much. I could play WoW forever with them in the game.
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>>587518048
She's making nukes, we need to kill her
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>>587355041
>37 hours ago
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>>587522692
good, needs to be longer so you forget the thread exists and fuck off
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Will Blizzard ever pay attention to retail again?
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>>587523080
>something something TLT super hype, the biggest launch ever, the most new players ever, beating forever, something streamers PTR discovering something, FFXIV references
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>this general is almost 3 days old
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>>587526226
how long does it need to be before you never come back?
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Bellular has decreed that AI will save retail
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>>587526226
>latest retail news on wowhead: 4 days ago
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>kill rustfeather hundreds of times
>still no mount
fuck it all
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>>587503549
We only got to January this year before we stopped doing this, Midnight really did kill everyone’s enthusiasm
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>>587526546
DEAD GAME
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hows ww, frost, and unholy dps wise?
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>stretch one expansion's worth of story into 3
>an entire 18 months of the boring filler .1 patch
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>>587527092
they all suck balls
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>>587504045
I used to come here just to read the XIV discussion because it was better than /xivg/
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>>587512860
Isn’t that the zone that new players start in
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>>587527647
no it's the corner where you mother sucks balls for 10 bucks
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>>587514969
interesting proposition
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>>587514969
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unironically, what's happening to retail right now is orders of magnitude worse than what happened in 2021. there was a lot of buzz around Shadowlands being bad, whereas now it feels more like everyone has silently quit the game. this time, blizzard doesn't really need to do anything to fix it because people are playing their "new" version of the game.
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I have doomjeet fatigue
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>>587529723
Notice how this all happens after Legion, the true end of WoW.
>BfA was leftovers from Legion which couldn't fit in properly and which they've been working on over the years in case it becomes part of the story
>release new game classic with Shadowlands
>release new versions of classic (hardcore, season of mastery/discovery etc) with Dragonflight
>release a new version of the game with Midnight which is called Forever
All they can do now is just keep releasing new versions of the game, whatever expansions retail gets doesn't matter since it's just shit
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>>587529723
are there numbers to back that up or are you just a lying nigger making shit up?
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>>587530113
I'm perpetually torn between ignoring them entirely and mercilessly berating them. The latter feels like falling to their shit-gutter level so I attempt to avoid it.
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>>587530437
WotLK was the true end of WoW, you useless retard
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>>587530537
there's literally nothing to gain from debating since it's always the same script every time anyway
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>>587530609
>Sargeras just hanging around doing nothing after seeing Lich King die
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>>587530437
Nu-Blizz can only sell the game which previous devs created, all the new stuff nu-blizz has done is disney bloat



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