>News, Dev Blogposts & Podcasthttps://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/>Upcoming Patch Noteshttps://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/pvp-faction-balance-updates-november-10/2408781/173https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/class-tuning-incoming-november-10/2404092>Talent Calculatorhttps://wowforevertalents.com/>NA Guilds<Clover Club> RP-PvP Alliance<FUN HAVERS> PvE Alliance<You Have To Go Back> PvP Horde<Daybreak Company> RP-PvE Alliance<GLOBOFOMO> RP-PvE Horde<Mulgore Dairy Farmers> PvE Horde>EU Guilds<Breeland Watch> PvP Horde<Wrench> PvE Horde<FRESH> PvP Alliance>How to join a guildType /who g-"Guild Name" to see who is online and whisper anyone.Previously on /wowfg/: >>587354720
How hard will retardins get dumpstered since apparently they went from absolutely meme joke if a class to top dps in both pvp and pve now?
Horde owns this general!
First for massive femnelf horse dongs
>>587364591it's enhance that will get dumpstered
>>587364490>6 na guilds>3 eu guilds>the european guilds are all schizo trannies from ffxivgrim
HelloI don't have anyone to play WoW Forever with.My friends on retail aren't playing Forever, or they are fooling themselves thinking they will, but I know it won't last.My other friends already played back in 2004 etc, then came back for classic/era/sod/annivesary so are not rushing to join back on forever or just not playing it.What should I do? It's hard to make friends and people that talk in /1 in the zones are kind of annoying and bad at the game
I play on PvE server as Ally and enjoy the game!
Forever is comfyShaman is funI will not apologise
>>587364557>need to swap seals every 3 attacks at leastYou shouldn't and you don't need to with the overworked seal thing>>587364660Freedom 100% 0 use case besides pvp
>10th December 2026>minigame ruleset is 90% green tyrone>Blizzard announces PvP ruleset is shutting down and merging with PvE, with warmode being added in early 2027>for the last few days of its existence, the PvP ruleset Orgrimmar music is changed into this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbQv9P-Vmi8
>>587364671Best zone in the whole god damn game.
repost :)The new graphics are amazing and I was seriously immersed in Duskwood especially when it started raining, but every ounce of goodwill I had evaporated when 90% of my playtime became corpserunning. I'm almost 5 hours played on level 34 and I'm not even 50% to 35, because so much of my time has been as a ghost.I actually fully expected to play this long term but the pvp server is irrevocably fucked and I'm not going to waste even more of my time by rerolling to pve. Once my 7 days is up I'm out, there's actually other worthwhile games to play for once and I can't help but feel that dumping time into this is a complete waste of my life.
We NEED worgen
>>587364707yes you need to swap seal. read the talent.
>>587364707Why wouldnt you need to use twist?
>>587364631It'll be fine PVE right... just weaker lightning bolts..
>>587364736Seriously. I can't stop playing dwarf.
The focal point of WoW was always that you entered a world engulfed in a hot race war. If you play the game with the caveat that you can opt out of this conflict at your convenience you're not playing the real game but rather a version made for children.
>get to wetlands>instantly see at least 20 red names roaming in the distance>ask in 1 if back up is coming>no one replies>see Horde groups just picking low level Alliance players on the roads>someone is just sitting there above corpses, waiting>i keep stealthingBro who in their right mind thinks this is fun? The romanticized WPvP is not happening when you are bound to lose when it's literally 20 vs 3 at any given time. Literal gank squads above your level are roaming the roads looking to kill you.
>>587364765>>587364762
>>587364740>copypasta concern trolling>Duskwood>ghostingPvE is that dead?
>>587364793make sure you keep repeating this line a month from now when PVP is 98% horde.
>>587364814fuck off retard. don't post more.
>>587364789Aren't you bothered by the fact that the character model shrinks when you run?
HOW DO I GET 15 LEGACY POINTS FASTt. lvl 19
>>587364184Nothing, even on retail with 30/60s cds you just press auto attack and occasional proc and can't do shit, every time i want to play paladin i just play dk and there's no dk in forever
>>587364897Cute!
after playing forever for 3 days i can safely say turtle wow was better.
Any recommendations for very minimal threat addon? I would like to keep my UI as vanilla as possible but I need something keep track of the threat.
>>587364810>who in their right mind thinks this is funHorde players.
>>587364869Thats not twisting is it
>hmmm i want to enjoy all of the PvE content in this game, but occasional do some PvP in a fair, balanced environment. Like a “battleground”, if you will. >rolls on PvP
>>587364671this literally looks like retail with the obnoxious purple flame and stupid glamping tent.
>>587364957use the threat indicator that’s built in the game retard
>>587364889Level every class to 25, while also leveling a crafting profession.
>>587364814>doubles your seal damage >yeah we dont need to use that Are you by chance... retarded?
>>587365017HOW? HOW?
listen to all of you fags arguing all day, i bet you arent even lvl 40 yet
>>587364939I played turtle to 60 and I thought it sucked ass especially the shitty 1.12 client, but at the same time I would still rather play that at this point since I could at least play the game instead of a corpserunning simulator.I think I'm just done with wow in general.
>>587364841I'll be among the 2% Alliance holding the line.
Bots could save Alliance
>>587365025>>yeah we dont need to use thatExactly point the post where i said those words
>>587364793Oh look an actual gamer.The normies will never understand what you are trying to say.
With what dps class could I get into raids the easiest?Mage?
>>587365025holy shock???
>>587364789Dwarf definitely has the best starting zone and early quest progression of the lot. I also love how Dwarves look in armor. Just absolute units.
>have a whole campfire system worked out and features are also required for crafting>make recipes to unlock them be 1% drops from dungeons bosses that people realistically only run once or twice>people make the simple decision to skip them until they can come back to solofarm it (which is still miserable and can take hours)gee I wonder why there is barely any campfires being setup later as nobody has reagents to craft their starter camp items due to having outleveled them days agodoesn't help that it feels like its a 50/50 chance you get the buff at all
Some anon mentioned possibly making a PvE EU Alliance guild. Just letting you know that I will gladly join if the name is funny
>>587365017not him what are legacy points?
>>587365017do multiple of the same count
I'm level 42 and still can't afford a mount...
>>587365075what line? You will be so overwhelmed that even stormwind will be occupied, exactly like what happened on classic.
>>587364957It looks just like the DPS meter, except its tracking threat on the target. What do you mean by minimal? What’s your vision for the perfect GUI. You can make it. It’s not hard at all to learn lua, or to threaten chatGPT until he produces a working lua script.
what's up with that?
is there a way to change trade chat
>>587365131Sorry, playing PVP EU Alliance with my friends.
>>587364897gnomes dont look like this
>>587365096
>>587365127I say, it really is a retarded decision to make a recipe droppable in dungeons where people will not run them more than once. Outside end game ones.
I’m lvl 22 and I haven’t logged in since the day after launch.
>>587365050IDK use a leveling guide and profession guide to show you the fastest way to do it?>>587365136They're account wide talent points you get for reaching certain milestones. they unlock at level 25.>>587365151No, they are account wide
...i quit... i literally... just... can't anymore...rolling on a pvp server does not mean that you want to pvp! some of us just wants to have a good time leveling... but you guys... i literally can't....goodbye pvp server, hello pve
Uninstalled this craftgatherslop retardin simulator, get fucked mazed hamsters.
>>587365127There are barely any campfires on alliance pvp because you lose the buff on death, which will take on average about 20 seconds upon setting foot into a contested zone. Taking the time to set up a fire and buff items is just willingly wasting time at that point.
>>587364810>who in their right mind thinks this is fun?niggers and browns
>>587365186Bm/Wf is a clear sign that a jew is orchestrating something.
>>587364490><Wrench> PvE Horde
>>587365143Shortstacks look better pear shaped
>>587364671>the overpowered class is funwoooooooow stunning and brave
THEY'RE GONNA NERF SHAMAN INTELLECT>FUCK BLIZZARDTHEY'RE GONNA NERF SHAMAN INTELLECT>FUCK BLIZZARDTHEY'RE GONNA NERF SHAMAN INTELLECT>FUCK BLIZZARDTHEY'RE GONNA NERF SHAMAN INTELLECT>FUCK BLIZZARD
the fuck is this
>>587365314>people were farming Bis >shamans are scaling with STR in a couple hoursLMAOOOOO
>>587364810>>587365243I've never seen such low effort concern trolling in my entire life. PvE must be dead in the water for this level of pilpul to be vomited on 4chan.
>>587365314blizzard HATE shamans they are racist
>>587365297Can't believe those faggots are still trying to force that long dead guildAt least make a new name
>>587365314>>587365358>Stormstrike one shots you nuthing personal
How do i alleviate Tankxiety
What exactly makes shamans op right now?
>>587364810It's the same people who fly around on Oppressors in GTA Online. It's the same people who make twink invaders in Souls games. It's the unskilled pathetic wannabe-PvPers who are too afraid to go to the dedicated consensual PvP game modes and instead try to just create circumstances where they can't lose the so-called 'PvP fight'. And then they are very tribal about being a part of the cool kids club, completely oblivious to how the actual PvP players see them.
>>587365186WE WUZ MAGES N SHIETCASTING SPELLS WITH MUH DICK
>>587364810alliance just doesn't want to put any effort into pvp. anyone that wants to pvp on a pvp server went horde. alliance will just jump ship. i already did. anyone telling you that pvp is fine is probably playing horde ximself on pvp and wants to keep you there so xhe and xis 4 tranny friends can just corpsecamp you
>>587365414all of the content in the game has been cleared billions of times there is literally 0 reason to take any of this seriously or to even play optimally/to a meta. its overdone, you arent doing anytihng new, and anybody who cares is likely on the verge of suicide.
>>587364873No, because beards. >>587365116Yeah visually they look great, especially in mail/plate.
>>587365414A second chat channel for your healgnomette to tell you what a good job you are doing and how she is so proud of you.
>7 days trial ends up tomorrow>still cant decide if i wanna commiton one hand, im having a <BLAST> playing this, getting the nostalgia hit especially with how alive the world isOn the other, Im starting to remember how much of a slog vanilla actually was, how fucking DOGSHIT the endgame is and the fact that im not 12 anymore so I dont wanna grind profs or flasks for 16 hours every day just to raidlog in the most basic ass raid.That, and the fact that I just know that this will start dying in a month or two, like every single time blizz releases something in the last decade and a half and knowing its run by modern blizz im really not optimistic. What do, boys...
*stout girlish voice*Ohhhhh youuu-hooo! oh gosh i wish there was a strong single alliance player who could help me uwu.... im all cold and alone in the wetlands...
Are other crafting professions also all pretty much money sinks, or is blacksmithing just particularely bad? Seems like most stuff sells for less than the raw materials at first glance. The extra gear for myself has been nice so far, but I'm wondering how well that'll keep up later.
>>587365427Fuck all desu but the clown show demands nerf/buff circles because it triggers their dopamine
>>587365437>>587365445The pilpul just deepens with every post. While people keep rolling on PVP and having fun.
>>587365449Fair>>587365480That would help i guess
>>587364810we warned you about the green tyrone ruleset bro
Am I fucked out of affording a mount if I actually level my professions?
>>587365495fucking retard lmaoread that in a mans voice trying to imitate a high pitched womans voice lmao
is engineering useless in pve? im looking through the recipes and it doesnt look good
>>587365587Profs dont really cost much if you actually gather stuff.
I thought I was ready. I thought I understood what I was signing up for.But apparently on a PVP server, people are allowed to attack you? WHILE YOU'RE QUESTING? WITHOUT EVEN ASKING?I was just trying to collect 12 boar livers and now I'm apparently part of some medieval blood feud.I miss the safety of knowing that the biggest threat to my evening was accidentally pulling two mobs.Anyway, transferring to PVE. I didn't come here to participate in other people's hobbies.
>>587364810>>get to wetlands>>instantly see at least 20 red names roaming in the distanceIt's funny how much this was my experience. With all the talk of Faggrend about PvP and how it has magical moments all I've seen is getting ganked by multiple Hordes and I don't have stealth. Getting to any mid-level dungeons is pain. I cannot even imagine how to get to SM without some Warlock teleporting. But how the fuck is anyone from Alliance getting there? Strip naked and just take it? I really expected there to be some form of fix to keep PvP servers from falling into the same traps but I guess I was the idiot.
>>587365634>t. horde tauren furry thinking he's funny
Week 2, the pack is ready for wpvp. We're gonna get some kino reactions.
so as a druid i SHOULD do every dungeon as a bear feral tank and i should make my own groups, right? which classes should i deny to maximize my gear drops? hunters and rogues?
Why do so many French people play WoW?
I have reached level 37 and it has slowed down a lot...
people just dont like nonconsensual pvp. its obvious.
>>587365314INT-stacking was going to be stupid and Shamans would be a menace if they let it slide, plus the intended enhancement gear favors STR already so it was never meant to be ... like elemental dps
Figured out why all the new rogue stuff is dogshit. Ideas like the new Ghostly Strike and setups which require multiple actions like gouge>backstab are all well and good in Retail where abilities are reliable, but melee in vanilla has about a 30% chance to successfully hit anything unless you're 3 levels above it and the usable vanilla melee specs all work on the assumption that missing isn't a big deal because you're compensated in some way. Sinister Strike spamming combat rogue doesn't care if Sinister Strike fails, they just keep mashing the button and turn their brain off. This is what a viable vanilla melee class looks like. The moment you start trying to do retail shit where ability A enables ability B and ability C can only be used within 7 seconds of ability D everything falls apart, because your shit is just going to missSubtlety goes up to a mob and presses Ambush. If it misses you exit stealth and you don't get to press it again, so now you're in front of the mob with daggers. You Gouge to try and set up backstab, but the gouge fails so now you can't attempt the backstab and you can't press gouge again because it's on cd. You try to Ghostly Strike to setup frontal Garotte but if the Ghostly Strike fails then you don't get the buff that would allow you to Garotte. If you DO get the buff that allows you to Garotte that still gets consumed on a failed attempt so your Garotte can fail anyway and now that is on a 20s cd for GS. You can try to kidney strike to enable backstabs or do your in combat ambush, but that's also on a cd so you only get one attempt and if it fails you can't access any of the followup damageIf your damage is locked behind a 3 stage sequence of abilities, all of which can fail and none of which allow you to attempt them a second time, then your damage requires 3 consecutive successful melee rolls before it can happen and it becomes impossible to fight anything that's +1 level
>>587364897>what the fuck is this? I just wanted to suck some dicks
>>587365698Your preferred language setting is set to French by default. And for some reason you can’t change it
>>587365735Nobody cares. Rogue is the most universally despised class in the game because it is exclusively played by third world browns who roll horde.
arcane mage bros, is there a good weakauras that just shows the arcane blast stacks and nothing else?
>>587365698wait till you see them in CS.. they are worse than russians, turks and peruvians put together
>>587365812>weakauraslol!
>>587365798someones mad
>pvp chuds think its a diss to talk about pve players enjoying solo contenti have severe social anxiety and aspergers. i literally get tremors when someone whispers me, nevermind playing in a party. so no, i dont want to play your "group experience" or whatever else you consider "peak WoW". i want to log in, quietly farm and so some quests and be in peace.
>>587365735Isn't this a non issue at level cap? You'll have more hit.
>>587365695I wouldn’t sweat it bro, the most important item you want is a weapon, that will either be a staff (that no one else wants) or a 2hd blunt (that warriors / paladins / shamans) will want. I’d discriminate against warriors / paladins because those giant pussies should be tanking themselves.
>>587365798Sorry that your nelf twink boyfriend left you for an orc
So has everyone rerolled to PvE yet
>>587365859foreverauras or whatever is used now, it's just really annoying having to constantly check stacks in the debuff frame
>>587365987I rolled pve to begin with
>>587365987Yes
>>587365490There's a free trial where do you get it?
>>587365926what the fuck is a level cap
>>587365987eu pvp ally chat is so fucking toxic and racist i swapped to horde pve immedatiely.
>>587365735you aint wrong, im playing on a legion private server in recent time and returning to the classic rogue reminded me how differnt the gameplay is, despite more or less having the same spells(we even get mutilate now). theres no such thing as miss a hit/get parried/blocked/resisted/etc in wow past wotlk, the gameplay in legion feels more like palying a rhytm game, just timing all your buttons while playing rogue in forever is like throwing a dice you are completely right, both design philosophies clash very hard
>>58736603960
>>587365926the only reason you'd ever log in at level cap is to raidlog
man this game is boring as hell after playing Azeroth Survivors
>>587364810kek why is nobody here talking about how its for horde?>be cute taurenwife>get to edge of next contested zone>already see some bros and sisters waiting for random players>get a party invite>accept>"zug zug we go and fuck shit up kill on sight">spend the next hour just making alliance miserable>they all leave the zone>i say thank you i will go quest now>quest without any fear of enemy factionif you dont have this on alliance side you are fucked kek
>>587365987come join fun havers :)
I want a cozy anon guild on PvE EU Alliance bros
>>587365735All that shit is cool but with the hit talent in combat you'd be retarded to run anything else while leveling
hornyhypnofemgnomefucksleeve DEMANDS big hung Ogres as the next playable race!
surely none of the vg incel guilds have more than a couple of members?
>>587365987nope. EU pvp is fine>being a muttyikes, couldnt be me
Why are you like this?yes YOUdon't hide, you know you act like this on a mongolian websitexddd so funneh xd
>>587365437>It's the same people who make twink invaders in Souls games>It's the unskilled pathetic wannabe-PvPers who are too afraid to go to the dedicated consensual PvP game modesTrvkeI have never seen these niggers playing actual pvp or pvp games, because they don't like pvp, they just want to griefYou simply ignore what these browns say and roll on PvE and enjoy yourself, do actual pvp in bgs
>>587366170Clover is full of normies and troons
Did something happen today? Why are pve troons shilling so hard? Kinda funny that the day after we BTFO horde in ashenvale so hard they called an admin suddenly 4chan is shilling...
I wish it was 2005 again. I’d roll on NA and find a cute Latina to marry like Alinity. t. yuropoor
>>587365987i am basically checked out from the game period. if you can't trust one thing they say then you cant trust anything they say. fuck blizzard.
>>587365926This is like saying who cares if your car cant start if you can park it at the end of your journey. why would people even hit level cap if the experience to level cap is awful as described?
feels like i lucked out being eu playing on na>get to avoid all the third-world eu jeets>get to avoid all the xiv refugees>get maps for myself in the morning and population is booming at night
>>587365792Relatable.
I see a lot of players that take the retail attitude that they are supposed to identify with their spec rather than their class. Nigger, you are not a holy priest, you are level 12. You can freely distribute your talents and even make a hybrid.
my gnomette actually thinks dwarf x gnome is the cutest interracial pairing for lore reasons. Two distinct races, traditional versus progress forced to live together after the gnomergon incident.
>Look up guide video>Start always has them shilling a mod or plugin for 1-2 minutesIs that normal for wow vids, it's practically every one I check
>>587365987I'm not retarded so I went PvE day 1
>>587365987>he actually fell for the memes and rolled pvpanon...
>>587366340it's all a joke. the fact SM is especially silly is because content creators aren't making any money through YT so they have to shill. it's the only way the machine can keep running because times are tough and there is less money for that sort of content.
What’s the guild of choice for /pol/ chads
What’s the conversion between spirit , int, and mp5?
>Horde lost so bad yesterday that even after calling a GM they're trying to get ppl to quit and play the cuckmode (pve) Nope, we're gonna keep you farming you orc niggers on zoram strand today just like yesterday. call blizz early niggers.
>tfw you been fun having since day 1 on pve
uh oh
>>587366489You live in purgatory.
I can’t believe you already forgot the disaster that’s classic 2019 when it comes to pvp
bambi drop for cock
>>587365314>designed for the INT-stacking shaman>will not be changed after this patchle mao
>>587366552what happened in 2019?
>>587366552keep coping green nigger. can't wait to /dance on your corpse like we did yesterday
>>587366585don't.
>>587366489>sd modelcringe. a dwarves have the single best hd model
>>587366586>>587365314>implying Int will be unplayableYou people are queer drama queens
>>587366641Nta but vanilla armor looks shit on the HD models.
>>587366552The private server chuds warned them back in 2019 but they wouldn't listen.
>>587365490You can slowly level and just wait for some update to see it's worth to stick around
>>587365987I'm sitting dead in STV after being killed by the same skull level shaman 4 times in a row, watched 15 horde players all at least 5 levels above me apparently doing green quests run by while waiting for a chance to respawn.I'm just glad I'm on a trial account, this shit is so doa it's beyond belief.
>>587366685Private servers generally had balanced factions though. Only retail has this team stacking problem.
>you now realize the "pvp is dead" spam is all seething pserver niggers that got cuckedlol
>>587366632it's too late, I am only talking to bambi nowand bambi is so sleepyall she can think about in her dumb little sleepy head is cockgood girl bambi
>>587366715no they didn't. it's just that pserver chads don't whine like bitches
they nerfed pickpocketing to the ground
>>587366727Was obvious right from the start, clearly a concerted attempt at a demoralisation campaign.
>he fell for pvp>he fell for rp>he fell for rp-pvp
alright guys, fine, but when is Aggrend getting publicly executed for what he has done to the game, huh?
Reminder that 2019 was 7 years ago. That means little shits who could barely talk back then are sex havers now…let that sink in
Tongue my anus, orcs
>>587366861Zoomers do not have sex
>>587366753wrong
Realistically, how am I supposed to get to SFK if the whole road is just bunch of Horde with no Alliance to fight them?
>>587366861they are braindamaged by covid, braindamaged by AI porn, and still neets in their 20s the only sex they have is with their hand
>>587365987I did, Anons pic from a few threads ago writes down the experience perfectly.
>>587366934they're just like me
Finally a class that actually uses intellect for melee and they little shits are of course going to fuck it because fuck having fun
>>587366931give it a rest nobody is going back to pservers faggot.
>>587366934>projection, the post
>hordies who rolled pvp are gonna be playing pve in a week>allies can't even play the game at allHAHAHAHAHA THEY FUCKING FELL FOR IT AGAIN HOLY FUCK
>>587366489based
how soon until they merge pvp to normal and add warmode?every chat channel on alliance pvp is pure dooming.
>>587366654It happens any time they announce changes to a class. Sometimes the dooming ends up correct and they get gutted>>587366972Hopefully they get something to give spells scaling still without int, having a mix is fun
>>587365490imagine spending days of your life to see the new content and it's literally stockades. if you quit now you will feel like you were one of the people who saw it coming, and if you don't you will feel like a retard no matter what happens.
>>587367029pservers are dead anon, it's time to get a new hobby.
>>587367049just ask them why they picked pvp if they hate pvp
Sell me on playing EU RP-PVP and why its not a dying server.
>>587366698same shaman has killed me 3 more times since making this post btw.
>>587365503Shamans doing too much damage and healing and mobility. It’s just the best everything. We’re hoping they buff shamans even more to make them more in line with the other classes.
>>587365314they should nerf enhance in general
I DID THE DUMB HUNTER THING NOT BUYING ENOUGH AMMO AND IM IN RFK
Rppvp was such a good call. Way less sweaty, world pvp was unbalanced in north STV but it's called STVietnam for a reason. It's a blast killing horde next to a dwarf supremacist typing full RP dwarvish accent about how the only thing worse than a Longback is a Greenskin
you think that's fun you're having right now? you think that's going to last?
>>587367062>i've never done alcaz in real nillerjust say so.
>>587367128nothing to sell you on. go pve (non rp) or don’t bother with the game at all
is this game worth to play even for 1-60 solo journey?
>stubbornly roll on PVP because you have something to prove>surprised you get ganked while questing and spend a lot of time corpserunning>blame BlizzardYou people are not the brightest bulbs, huh.
>he fell for itLOLI hope blizzard is gonna take F O R E V E R to fix that problem. No merge with normal, no war mode, no transfers. Nothing, nada, zilch until 2027!
>>587367173i hope your not like that fag that rolled on the corpsemaker today. fucking hunters
>>587366972>he’s only having fun if he’s op Shitter alert
>>587367204no. play skyrim or something
i'm now realizing that all the seething about wow forever are from europeans or from retards that rolled on rp/pvp servers that are dead and imbalanced or from 80 year old boomers that have already played the game 48 times overi'm a zoomer on the pve server and have never played wow before so i'm having fun :3
>>587367204as a game on its own wow is extremely mediocre so therefore no.
>>587367263It's not even OP, its about shamans rolling need on items they usually dont roll need on, i.e. casters are whining.ITS LITERALLY LOW LVL DUNGEONING WHO CARES
>>587367276>I'M HAVING A BLAST OKAY THAT'S WHY I NEED TO TELL EVERYONE HOW MUCH OF A BLAST I'M HAVING!!!
you crybabies should of rolled hunter to counter them shamans
>>587366037if you have a friend who is a retarded whale and bought the gay elves package, it comes with 2 referal codes. but i got it from >reddit, people were spamming them non-stop on launch day. lots of anons posted them here too. its just 7 days tho, so i dunno if it still works or is it 7 days from the moment you activate it .>>587367062yeah, thats whats scaring me.. its obviously a hasty thrown expansion made of 100% leftover assets, even from modern wow, and i dont know to what extend i can trust >blizzard to actually develop anything of note eventually
>>587367353seething 65 year old pvp boomer unc...
When PvP isn't balanced the normal population should be forcefully drafted. Problem fixed.
>>587367029>pvpers kvetch for weeks about how frustrating pve is because you cant kill the people contesting your tags>pvp ruleset turns into a pve server within a monthoh no no no
>>587367204It seems fun, all the players being region-wide instead of servers helps stuff from feeling "dead". I doubt we'll ever get a community-like mmo such as this ever again. The genre is pretty much dead sadly If by solo you mean not interacting with anyone then just play a SP game. but if you mean solo as in not playing with friends, you'll meet randos who would invite to help farm quests as a group, and of course dungeons if you do those. personally wouldnt go for a healer if you're doing the latter, without friends those seem kinda miserable to play
I have literally never seen shilling like this before in any vidya thread in my life. PVP and RP servers are doing fine, why the FUCK is there active push to lie about this?
>>587367276I'm going to let you in a little secret: it's all LLMs nowany retard can vibecode a shitpost-bot in an afternoon today, and quickly teach it to spew garbage and learn what gets the most engagement and just keep posting that
>>587364671>>587364993The tent IS way too big, I'll give you that.
>>587367209Most cattle falls for the best players roll PVP server fad and then realize they can't compete with the best.
>>587365414by actually getting out there and tanking and making mistakes then learning from them. your anticipation of fucking up is worse than a bad pull here and there
>>587367237no but i will
>>587367418theyre trying to get people to unsub and join a pserver
Do starter zones other than darkshore have fishing quests?
PVP reals made sense in the olden days because you could actually learn and memorize your enemy's name and the server wasn't overpopulated to the gilt so you actually stood a chance to evade or win fights. PVE makes more sense today
there is not a thing you can do to convince anyone. if people think it's over then it's over. not all the gaslighting in the world will fix this.
>>587365414>How do i alleviate Tankxiety90% of people rolled dps5% rolled healer5% rolled tankas a tank you are in such high demand that you can be fucking dogshit at the game and still get into any group no matter what lmao the situation is that dire
lmao watching pvp shitters having a melty is almost as entertaining as watching PC chuddies having a melty over console gods
>>587364671
>>587367614your console is a Roblox meme-game.
I love the tooltip how low levels targets don't give any honor. Surely is going to reduce the amount of low life gankers.
>>587367418My guy this is how the LFG looks like on horde for a lvl 33 on EU RP-PVP. Does this look "healthy" to you?
>>587367418tldr:>everyone was excited to play pvp>a lot of people going pve thought this meant they'd be locked out of content>world pvp has been pretty kino and guilds are already competing over zones like the good old days, only the scale is much larger >pve people got sensitive about it because they think they're missing out on something>instead of focusing on their own game, theyre actively moaning about a game mode they dont even playthats basically it.
>>587367658420 blaze it
>>587367578>still get into any group no matter what lmao the situationYou tell me, the other day I got into a group with 2 level 30 for fucking deadmines because the 30 druid couldn't/wouldn't tank. Meanwhile I was level 18 and just TCing and shouting like a tard while they did most of the work.
>>587367695>almost 3 full groups for a 33 dungeon>median level is 18looks good
how much does a mount cost?
i miss my beta thunderfury
>no High Elves>no Goblins>no Dryad>no Dwarf mage>no Dwarf warlock>no Gnome hunter>no Human hunter>no Orc mage>no Tauren priest>no Troll warlock>no Undead hunter>no Dark Iron Clan, Wildhammer Clan, Demon Hunter, Dark Ranger, Blackrock Clan, Burning Blade, Dreadskull Clan, Grim Totem skins>no Ursan Heights>no Farstrider Lodge>no Forest Song>no Thalanaar>no Dun Agrath>no Hawk's Vigil>no Sorrowguard Keep>no Forlorn Summit>no Karfang Hold>no Alah'Thalas>no Blackstone Island>no Thalassian Highlands>no Northwind>no Balor>no Grim Reaches>no Gilneas>no Icepoint Rock>no Lapidis Isle>no Gillijim's Isle>no Moonwhisper Coast>no Tel'Abim>no Scarlet Enclave>no Hyjal>no Jared Voss>no Masterpiece Harvester>no Zandara Windhoof>no Vangros>no Velthelaxx the Defiler>no Duke Dreadmoore>no Brother Wystan>no Rotthorn>no Armory Quartermaster Daghelm>no Death Prophet Rakameg>no Zel'jeb the Ancient>no Champion Razjal the Quick>no Frostmane Hollow>no Dragonmaw Retreat>no Windhorn Canyon>no Crescent Grove>no Stormwrought Ruins>no Gilneas City>no Hateforge Quarry>no Black Morass>no Timbermaw Hold>no Stormwind Vault>no Emerald Sanctum>no Karazhan Crypt>no Tower of Karazhan>no Moonwhisper Coast>no Amberhorn Caverns>no Eversong Wastes>no Zul'Aman>no Ruins of Silvermoon>no Grim Batol>no new epics>no new crafting epics>no Sorcerer-Thane Thaurissan>no Broodcommander Axelus>no Ezzel Darkbrewer>no Cla'ckora>no Concavius>no Dark Reaver of Karazhan>no Ostarius of Uldum>no Nerubian Overseer>no Father Lycan>no Steamwheedle Blood Ring>no Draenei Exiles>no Dalaran>no Earthen Ring>no Silvermoon Remnant>no Durotar Labor Union>no Kul Tiras>no Hardmode raids>no Hardcore>no Traveling Craftmaser>no Slow and Steady>no Level One Lunatic>no Boarding Adventure>no War Mode>no Exhaustion>no Vagrant's Endeavor>no Trial of Heroism
Is it true that using stealth is an xp loss?
>>587367703> pve people got sensitive about it because they think they're missing out on somethingthats a good one buddy!
>>587367798forgot>no dead tranny server
SHOW ME YOUR FUCKING UIs
Please talk me out of buying the epic pack. Feel free to use logical fallacies.
>>587367703This, but I'd also add the caveat that a lot of the pve crowd are also the same people that watch WoW streamers. So they'll get any opinion about the game directly from them. Most WoW streamers actively avoid PVP because they get rightfully griefed by the entire server when they show up.
>>587367834using rogue is an XP loss
>>587367798based discord enjoyer
>>587367703>no u are fomo!Sorry green Deshawm, not falling for your tricks.
>>587367798troondle was dogshit and literally only mentally ill freaks like you that spam the same post on every board actually enjoyed that amateurish slop
>>587367276do you want to be my wife
>tfw no healslut for my bear
>>587367868You get nothing for it.
>>587364793It's not a hot race war at all, it says at the very beginning it's a cold war situation with punctual conflicts. Just make PvP only areas like Ashenvale so if people want to "experience the war", they go there.
>>587367868why would u wanna play a sissy elf
>>587367868i have yet to see anyone playing the new race not get bullied and humiliated.
>>587367703the tldr is that most people finally reached contested zones and see just how much of an unbalanced shitfest it is where one faction coordinates and the other doesnt and historically never did and never will. history just repeats itself.
>>587367868ur gaywait that's a reason why you might buy it
Casters are a bunch of whining bitches. Classic+ were supposed to be different, blizz wasn't supposed to listen to these retail cucks and micromanage everything
>>587367798and still im having so much fun
>>587367868they can'T be paladinswait for the paladin elfs instead
>>587367876I know that but they look cool
>>587367926That's what PvP servers are. Contested Zones are... Contested. And that's where most world pvp takes place. Sure you get guild raids on various zones which usually leads to all out wars etc.>>587367951Not experiencing that at all. And one of the benefits of the current serverless system is that the balance seems to work pretty good. Then again, I am in an active guild with friends and take full advantage of the new group finder system when questing, so I'm always with 3-4 other people.
this is cool I guess, but why wasn't this added as a reward ingame...?
>>587365735I'm actually kinda glad i dropped rogue on retail and forever/vanilla, but now i don't have class to main
>>587367151Just make an alt bro on the RP ruleset
>>587367798keep posting, king
they said they had all this new tech and shieeeeeeeeeeet but they obviously lied. they have nothing. they just fell asleep at the wheel and crashed the plane with no survivors, just like they do every time. it's all just been pretend.
>>587367921Length/Girth?
As a healer priest, I think I'm going to just dungeon blitz to level instead of questing. Even with the reduced xp, it's a more enjoyable experience versus being out in the world competing for spawns with the (very) limited drop rates of vanilla quest design.
>>587367926your arguing against a retard, these are the last desperate cries of a pvp serverlet realizing that most people learned from 2019 and that le epic pvp server is a meme
>>587367862
>>587368097It's honestly very sad to see that he resorted to replying to himself, too.
>>587367189the original alcaz island was some lost rigger cove style wood barracks with varian wrynn in the sewers beneath.
>>587368029>That's what PvP servers are. Contested Zones are... Contested. And that's where most world pvp takes place. Sure you get guild raids on various zones which usually leads to all out wars etc.No, contested zones are the PvP assigned areas because that's where the war conflicts are, that's how real war works. The frontlines, that's how it progresses. Ashenvale, Arathi Highlands, etc. PvP only areas, exactly for PvP nerds like you.
>>587367994Would you say you're....having a blast?
>>587368093You can instantly tag mobs from 30yrds and you’re complaining you retarded shitter. I have to throw a dagger and it takes for fucking ever. Faggot paladins even tag faster than me.
>>587367868Why you should>
Why did I receive a mail saying I paid 10g for 160 mithril ore containing only 4 bruiseweed? I didn't buy anything to begin with.
>>587366181>Mohammed calling others a mutt
>>587368249yes!!!!!!!!!!!
>>587367868shtis gay lmao
>>587367868You could be buying so much taco bell for that money.
>>587367798wasn't the immortal a feat of strength in wotlk?
>>587368057Because that shit doesn't fit the game.
>>587368285thats my wife
i'm having fun
>>587368292Do you share a first name with someone else? There was a bug in beta where mail intended for one person would go to another if they had the same name.
yarr
>>587368238I don't really know what you're trying to argue here. The center point of most world PVP on any PVP server takes place in contested zones. It's also a video game not a real war, and WoW doesn't have a system of taking/losing territory (this would be terrible). Mostly you get factions competing for resources and access to quest areas. This leads to guilds forming as people look to claim those spaces for a faction, and then it escalates into war. This is what people who enjoy world PVP play for, and this is why you are really arguing a non-point because the people playing PVP are going to keep playing PVP. PVE is a completely different experience. PVP you really should be grouping up when leveling in a contested zone, and you should be a member of a guild that's active. PVE is more forgiving in this aspect, you can solo level because the threat of world conflict isn't there. They're just two different ways to play, I can't comprehend why people are so butthurt one or the other exists.
>>587368292>Farming bots don't even wait for you to buy their shit from the AH they just steal your in-game money nowNExt up they'll steal your IRL money.
>>587368057This is Forever general, wowg is that way...
>>587367997the fact that this game will never have elf paladins is what makes me glad i will never have to spend money on it.
>>587367862sovless maxxing
Why didn't they add more 35-50 level quests? It's still the same fucking STV gauntlet and desolace.
>>587367695>Diggy GravesNice RP name lmao!
>>587367695LFG is still layer/shard specific, for whatever reason. Maybe one day they'll fix it, maybe.
>>587368442Oh my god that is horrible.
>>587368408oh they are already doing that. just think of all those third-worlders buying all your info from all those data brokers buying all that data from the beloved gold sellerinos.you're all honestly so very nice to be doing such a nice thing for all those turdies.
>>587368442I hate it
>>587368462Lol you can level from 40 to 44 in Riverglades alone.It's like a TBC zone.
what are the addons that turn group members into colorful boxes that show what hots are applied to them and can be mouse over healed without clicking them?
having a wonderful, lovely, charming, delicate, splendid time playing bishoujo healadin on rp-pvp and the instant group invites I get for being an amazing genius delicate super healer who gets curated caster mail gear nobody else can roll on...
>>587367614So not only are you a pve cuckold, you're also a plastic box consolewar fag? That's just sad lil bro.
Bros, bros, bros, hear me outWhat if... TBC+... Like they eventually give us TBC as an expansion, but make it not-dogshit now, with new raids, better zones and no flying...
>>587366586>picked the Ele weapon insteadProblem?
>>587368576post your dress
>>587368601>bring on the pandas!based based based
>>587368576Built for head pats.Let's see your dress.
>>587365445I wish pvp didn't require engineering and a bunch of specific stuff to be about balanced because if you don't get those you're effectively an idiot. The game would only improve if engineering was removed as it would give players more flavour on the professions they pick.I'm completely fine with learning to pvp but everything else is poop in this game
>>587368601So they turn the whole of outlands into Nagrand?
I'm done. I won't play again unless they fix the pvp server or let me transfer to pve.
>>587368395wow, you made like 3 silver
Are there race changes in forever? How is the barbershop what can you change in that?
It's impossible to run a pug WC group without at least 1 criminally retarded asshole in your group.What level do these clueless cunts usually get filtered out of the game?
>>587368601>what if they make a good gamewhat proof do you have that they are capable of that?
>>587368736true but i'm almost 200 fishing now
friendly reminder that <FUN HAVERS> is accepting pvp refugees
>Lot of level 40 players with mounts>I can barely scratch together 50 atmWhat the fuck am i doing wrong, is it leveling skills? Did they get super lucky?
>>587368720You'll catch up to your current level in under half the time when you're not being ganked perma in PvE bro
>>587368781never. we call them horde.
>>587368818>begging for people to join on 4chan>2 fucking peoplepvesisters.... not like this....
ZE PEVIPE SERVARS ARE FINE SAAAR LOOK HERE BLEESARD HAS SAID SO YOU BENCHOD DO YOU KNOW BETTAR DAN SEE BLISSARD? NO SAR YOU DO NOT NOW ROLL ON DE PEVIPEE SERVAR NOW SAAAR!!! NOWW!! DO NOT PVEEEE SAAR! SAAAR!!!!!!!!!
>>587368407We are arguing that your way of playing isn't how people actually play in PvP and just have gank squads killing mostly newbies in low level areas for fun and crushes the new player experience, leading to dwindling numbers, faction imbalance and killing servers as they've done so several times>Layering helps with the balance nowNot if the balance is so ridiculous that layering will just leave people in empty layers or 10:1 balance layers anyways.The argument, of PvP in general as is, is that it's a model doomed to fail on the long run because one faction will take the absolute advantage and the losing faction doesn't want to be ass raped every time they go out to collect flowers.If you want ACTUAL PvP, contested zones system is the way to keep things balanced and playerbase consistent because you CAN coordinate with your guild and other guilds and get the same war-like experience, even more so since you can actually strategize around specific areas instead of retarded gankfests in random regions>It's not real warTHEN WHY BRING UP THE HOT WAR ASPECT? You are like one of those retards that talk about CoD's "realism" and "soldier fantasy", but then sneers that stuff like Wardogs or Arma for more actual realism.The game isn't just about you and YOUR way of having fun relies on having people around to kill which they won't be if they don't think they have a chance of winning, simple as that.
>>587365398yeptells you who is still playing this gameand that those are the ones that were the problem all the other times they made wrench!same people that kill the guild in retail btwdisgusting gamers
>>587367862Yeah yeah the keybinds blow ass but work fine enough for leveling.
what gay shit are they adding?prepare for rogues to mc you and throw you off cliffs
So the "vertical progression" essentially boils down to accumulating rested experience with reddit camps and grinding professions on alts to craft bis gear which serves no purpose since instanced content is made entirely redundant. The only form of fun you get out of this mode is ganking undergeared chuds in pvp and talking about netflix slop and taxes with gamer dads around camp fire.
>>587368835I have 80 hours on this character, so that's still 40 hours just to get back to where I was.I'll pass, I'm gonna go back to modding skyrim lmao. At least that has actual tits.
How's rp for horde and alliance on eu? Is it good?
>>587368779There's some new stuff in that you can access all barbershop options from the character creation screen, and there's a few HD only options you can pick but not as many options as exist in retail for the same races (like taurens cant have flowers in their hair). Also druids can recolor their forms with some of the newer model colors.
>>587368937>>587368109Redpill me on shaman
>>587368940retard. throw yourself off a cliff.
>>587368781>she didn't level ahead of the packyikes.
>>587368834Just buy the gold like everyone else faggot
>every single timeWhy do people choose pvp servers? wpvp sucks in this game.
>>587368960>Speedrunning a forever mmo You'll be able to level every class casually way before they add anything new to progression on. You'll be max level on everything so catching up to new content wont take as long as the leveling part
newfag here, at what point should i consider looking for a guild? also should i be focusing on professions or getting levels up?
>>587368995genuinely the most fun ive had on a class so farlv 25 you get stormstrike which doubles your damagelv 30 you get windfury and get rng casino one shots on mobsyou have a fuck ton of utility thats useful literally everywheretwo handers are fun
Is there a reasonable way to get that 14 slot bag this week from darkmoon if Im lvl20?
when will allytroons figure out you can just group up and fight back the horde shitters?>b-but my rested exp said it's not optimalmaybe you should have rolled on a pve server then
>>587364897Gnomes should always look like this.
>>587368972Horde RP on EU is dead as fuck and there are a lot of non-RP names there
>>587368995Enhancement does great damage at least for now.
>>587366067>be on ally side>go to westfall and start doing DM prequests>someone in general calls us cowards for letting 3 level 25-30 hordes take the mines
>Just finished the Shaman weapon quest up until you pick>Afraid to pick the Enh weapon because of nerfsGuess I'll just exit the game and wait to see what happens to them
>>587368916>isn't how people actually play in PvPBut... it is? That's exactly how people play PVP and that's the core experience of PVP servers since forever.>gank squads killing mostly newbiesYou're taking something that does happening but completely exaggerating how common it is. Especially now that there are guilds being established that rapidly react to stuff. This is what happened yesterday in Ashenvale. Alliance finally got an organized guild together and hit back against the Horde and locked them down, which caused the Horde to abandon the zone. I think you're being misleading here. Another thing, there are no servers in Forever WoW...>Not if the balance is ridiculousThis is remedied by the fact there are no servers. Which completely removes the concerns about traditional server balance issues to begin with. >model doomed to fail on the long runNot really. In fact it becomes even more balanced at later levels. >one faction will take the absolute advantageBut that's not what happens and again, these are not traditional servers with traditionally locked server pops. As we saw yesterday, you just get a group together and you win.PVP servers require a lot more player cooperation, particularly in contested zones. I think you are somebody that prefers playing solo or doesn't want to engage with other players that often. That's fine and there's nothing inherently wrong with it, but stop trrying to pretend that this is what everyone else agrees with when it's simply untrue.
>>587365919Why don't you go play one of the countless single player games
>>587368395fishe
>>587368982I guess they kept in the gender stuff in the barbershop too? So the only truly important thing would be your race, class and name for stuff you can't change? >Druid stuffDamn that sounds cool. Hopefully we get a different travel form I don't really like the cheetah
>>587369117i like joining guilds asap so theres some people to talk toyou dont *need* to level profs but its fun and can be useful. just make sure you take the time to keep them up to date or youll outlevel them and not want to train them anymore
>>587369141that's exactly what is going to happen and then you will have no one to pvp. horde can all go pvp eachother's pvpnesses in their mud huts.
>>587369187>which caused the Horde to abandon the zonehow does this work, just go to a different layer lmao
>>587369125and with WF totem you STILL get the extra damage from flametongue on top of it.
>>587369181enhance is going to be better than ele either way
>>587369246Our guild got together and went to Ashenvale in force. We marched on the Zoram Strand and camped it for about 30 minutes. Most of the Horde wound up leaving. Then I leveled for the next 2 hours with my friends and finished all the quests in the zone for my level. I don't see what the fuss is all about here. You clearly don't even play PVP so I can't comprehend what is upsetting you here.
>>587369136I don't think you can grind enough tickets on lvl 20
>>587368940>prepare for rogues to mc you and throw you off cliffsThey could already do that, since 99% of them are engineers
>>587369141group with who? every zone is 10:1 horde minimum.
Is there any way to play NA pvp horde such as trying during off hours or is it totally locked? I have not yet made a pvp character on either faction ever on this account.
>>587366067yeah it's really hard when outnumbering the other faction. why are horde players so retarded?
Darkshore mogs SO hard
>*Grabs /wowfag/ by the bussy*Ya like that dont cha, SLUT!!!
>>587369236any general level range for keeping them within your combat level range?
>>587369349it really is the best zone.
>>587369305nta but how much fomo is the darkmoon faire stuff? isn't that the halloween event or something. are those 14 bags that important? i don't think i'm reaching it in time either
>>587368906I do not think Indians are particularly invested in the PvE versus PvP debate. Slavs however…
>3 time playing re-released classic>can't join asmons guild because europoorit's over
>>587369317Not really. And again, the game is even easier than it's ever been because there are built in LFG systems now specifically for this. If you are having difficulty in a zone you just group up and then all your problems disappear. What I imagine is happening to you is that you are in a heavily contested zone and you are running around by yourself and coming across a party of Horde, who are grouped up while you are solo.
>>587365735There's low level gear with hit on it now.
>>587369353ya professions are your level x5so at level 20 you should try to have level 100 in your profs
Did my part and made an alliance character on the pvp ruleset which I have no intent to play on so another hordechad can join to "balance" me out and steamroll the alliancucks even harder.
>>587369350Only when my bull (literal) does it.
https://talentsforever.com/warrior/60/-35200135010212-0540031200302213-kol2qplt2vSTRXY2aYWcdety2wyx-12?b=70755h&d=261109Thoughts?
>3 times as many balkans and eastern europeans on the hordeI wish I could join NA
>tanning rack recipe is 9g on AH>the tools itself are 9sPeople really know how to game AH...
>do WC>1.5 HOURS>5 bfull bags
>>587369464you can if you make a new toon :)
I completely ruined this game for myself by picking pvp. I didn't play classic or anything I haven't played wow in years, I didn't know it would be so cancerous. I was expecting to basically only play wow for months when I heard about forever and I'm already completely burnt out and over it not even a week later.At this point I would unironically go for a paid transfer just to salvage my wasted time but they don't even allow that.
>>587369350these fags unironically find that hot LUL
>>587369456i need to buy toothpaste and tomatoesboobsfix the leaky showerhead connectionblorcsmeeting in 3 minutesrest in peace nate higgathat's about it
>>587369304I'm not even the anon you've been replying to. I'm asking how this shit evne works with layering, you fucker.I have no problem with PVP, I actually liked seeing players interacting with each other like an alli group blockading the road in the middle of Ashenvale.I do agree that getting one shot by a skull lvl player when you aren't even PvPing just traveling is fucking annoying and shouldn't be a thing.The idea of a rotating system for designated zones for PvP(say 4 of them each week give bonus to pvp rewards there) does sound good as it funnels the action there and discourages lame ass shit ganking.
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand it's over.
>>587369532Is it that bad? Post some screenshots. I remember in 2019 horde were literally camping IF.
why
kindly post Whitemane if you please >.<
>>587369181They will probly just tone down the AP scaling from int a bit. It's still way better than elemental will be without major buffs.
Having a blast.
any shaman bros max out maelstrom weapon?i literally just completely skipped it. lightning bolt does less damage than earth shock so it seems like a useless talent, just saves you like 60 mana every 15 seconds
>>587369646wait for the new thread
>>587369643Sorry, just sending you 56tb of dolphin porn
>>587369652Yeah but I'm having more fun with Ele and I like being different since 99% of others I see are Enh
hordes were making alliance trial accounts and the blizzard blue post confirms it
>>587369591I'm not gonna write a bullshit answer because I genuinely have no idea. We just rolled up in a few groups and camped the beach. After awhile the Horde stopped coming from their base and we could see them taking the fp to go level someplace else. After that we split off, and I stuck with 4 other guys from my guild who also wanted to level in Ashenvale. Nobody bothered us after that and I didn't see many Horde. i don't know if the layering locks in when you swap zones or something.
>>587369714>i can't read
Stop replying to it. Yes, "it".
Which mage spec has the hight skill ceiling but is more rewarding? Currently levelign frost (lvl16) and it's more CC and damage oriented.
>>587369794they obviously lied
>Sunk Cost Fallacy: Forever
>>587365127having to keep old level mats in your bags to make them sucks. I use heavy leather now, why would I have light leather to make the camp thing.
>>587369646
>>587369105>forever means turning your game into korean grindslop
>>587369161Forsaken RP on EU-RP has been fucking LIT
>>587365127>>587365219You can buy the recipes from AH
>>587369835>skill ceilingThis is fucking classic. No class or spec has a high skill ceiling.
>>587369835>wow>”skill ceiling”Play ffxiv if you want actual skill expression in difficult encounters.
How much gold is riding training now?
>>587369935t. reddit tourist
>>5873699582 min meta and rigid dance choreography.skill lmao.
>>587369698Enh is pretty great for leveling because it's not oom the entire time. I would guess a bunch pivot off once maxed, similar to how healer specs go dps to level
Anyone got the leaked restedxp guide? I think I'm finally going to reroll pve and just want to get back to where I am
any nigger that says warlock is weak is pushing the same agenda on you as the pvp is fine faggots
>>587369378Its not halloween, monthly stuff. Feel free to ignore if you cant farm it yet.
Darkshore water looks so fucking good.
Would you recommend warlock for a retailie
>healing teas are BoE random world drops>0.3% drop rateSo I have to kill 6,000,000 quillboars just to make Royal Tea?
sick
>>587367997B-But they can be mages...
I still can't fucking choose between holy paladin or trying elf shaman on horde rp because i never in my life played shaman or trying warlock/warrior on alliance rp/normal and my paladin is almost level 20 FUCK
>>587370048warlock sucks
>>587370123warrior
>>587370123Sure. Just DoT and wand while your blueberry tanks, it's piss easy.
>>587369958XIV has no skill expression at all and they're nerfing it next expansion into 10 button kits. Wow having interrupts already makes it more skill expressive than XIV -t XIV raider waiting for the next expansion
>>587367798MADE FOR HUMAN MEN & BOYS
>be enhance>spot a druid dotting up a named mob for +3 seconds not doing any damage>on my path so I throw a helping stormstrike>windfury proc + multi crits instantly vaporizes the mobI almost feel sorry for the humiliation
Any Sulfuras Enhancement Shammys yet?
>>587367798good post
>>587369464I've noticed this, they fucking LOVE going horde, why is that?t. eastern europoor
>>587364638>schizo trannies
>>587370187kill yourself you inbred nigger
>>587368285Skelfie!!!!!!!!~>>587369892Oh...my...>>587369683W-what happens then?
>>587370186holy paladin is probably one of the most boring specs in the game to play AND is a shit healer on top of that, so you are better off rolling any other healer if thats what you wantshaman will always be fun since you can have at least 2 playstyles, so will be warrior
>>587370251>see Enhance fighting 3 mobs at once>windfury never procs and he dies
>w-warlock is b-bad!>check their spec, it's not demoevery time>1v1 and 1v2 always end at full health and mana>1v3 and 1v4 might have half mana or health at the end, just 1v1 and 1v2 to top off in the meantime>top 3 single target dps>best aoe dps>literally has tools for every single situation
>>587370186you will never enjoy shaman after paladin.
>NOOOOOOO!!!>YOU CANT ADD AN ALLIANCE TELEPORTER TO RUINS OF LORDAERON!!!>THE HUMAN PALADINS WILL STEAL ALL THE UNDEAD PUSSYDon't care. Cry more green tyrones. Horde pussy is Alliance owned. Always has been, always will be
>>587370173>put the recipe in the horde dungeon>at level 20>1% drop rateblizzard really are retards huh
>>587370123there is no reason to play warlock when shaman exists. shaman is better at everything.
>>587370232>for this next boss… he hits the tank very hard occasionally!>3 minutes of thisDamn, hope the dps remembered to turn on auto attack.
>>587370251Please tell me my chud ass Warrior gets to hit harder better stronger faster than any other class at 60...or is this class just a humiliation ritual when I get mogged by Shammys and Paladins at all levels...
If they had added high elves to alliance there would be no faction
>>587370372but its so cool 5 instead of 3 camp thingies
>>587370401There's something about a pale blonde woman in red that gets to me.
>>587370205>blueberrybad spotted.
>>587370398Anon...
>>587370303Because they self insert as orcs
>>587370401Remove Skyborne from Horde. Add High Elves and Blood Elves to Alliance. This is what I've been saying.
>>587370339>not using ground or stoneclaw to run away as wolf and healingskill issue
>>587369413woooooooooa this will solve the problem
This reason wasn't here before, huh...
>>587370205noooo i wanted gameplay....
>>587369218i need a pocket priest that larps as whitemane to burry myself ballsdeep in
WHY IS THIS GAME SO FUCKING DARK REEEEEEENTERING THE GATE OF SW FEELS LIKE IM GETTING SEND TO THE SHADOW REALM
They are definitely lying about the 45:55 right?And they did a completely unrelated hotfix sure
>>587370494>reported for campingRoguesissies...What the fuck do we do now?!?
>>587370459Y-yes 'nonny????>>587370452>pale blonde woman in redSomething something Human supremacy ala the Whitemane effect.>>587369218HNGHF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>587370551yeah
>>587370486That's major for warriors who die to DODGE MISS MISS PARRY
>>587370486A whole 0.4% lmao
>>587370530bro ur torch?
>>587368995>>587369125Isn't downtime a big problem still?
>>587370179their casting animation doesn't look very good
>>587370525>my gnomette puts on her tabard and chapeau
Should I roll Druid or Warrior? I like the versatility of Druid, but I feel like nothing will beat the staple that is Warrior. Are Druids desired in late game activities or do people just prefer Warriors or Priests?
Good morningI hate IsraelI hate green tyronesI hate hunters.
Which class lets me SLAM the most BUTTONS
>>587370616Why aren't you a Human...anon grumbles.
>>587370551it has already been confirmed that lhey lied
>>587370619two weakest classes in the game
>>587370585no not even a little, they have the ability to have 100% mana regen in combatyou cant go spamming all of your abilities without drinking but its pretty goodele probably has rough downtime still though
>>587364490https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--M8ayNJztsI'm home... forever...
>>587370383Pretty much. Fights live and die by having difficult mechanics, and after a week they're usually solved even within pf. Very little is actually on (You) and your own skill expression, you either do the mandatory fight dance everyone else has to or die. There's nothing personal like interrupts and very few add phase fights, dps often get the least mechanics of anyone too they're afk doing easy rotations. Raidwides don't hit hard enough if your dps forget to mit either. There's really no personal expression going on unless you're the healer wrangling the retards
>>587370649Arms Warrior
>>587370619...warrior is the worst class in the game vro...>>587370653>druidIdk...
>can only use onelaaaame. I wanna use my professions.
>>587369373Are boats from Stormwind still borked?
>>587370585you run outta mana if you spam totems but otherwise you're pretty good at keeping uptime. being a mix or melee+spells helps being active all the time
>5.5 days in>LFG is already nearly entirely dead on the RP-PvE realmThis server was super cool for a few days, but fuck bros, I'm regretting "maining" it. Leveling dungeons are going to be impossible to do in 3 months.
Warrior bros, what level and what spec are you using and are you having fun?
Should I go for Maelstrom weapons or take restoration talents to get mindfulness when leveling?
>>587370780Role?
>>587370648Im also trans btw if that matters.
>>587370649
>>587370685>is more difficult than every single normal wow boss> and classic raid encounter
>>587370775>>587370673Well shit, now I'm wondering if I should reroll... Currently troll warrior at 16 but I always like healers.Should probably just nut up and play druid like I always do so I can heal and tank as I please...
>>587370843>Beast mastery at top of the chartsSOVL
>>587370812Healer, but that's not really relevant, I mean there's literally nobody listed for some dungeons.
>>587370673Been playing Ele since 30 (now 36). It can be bad if clearcasting never procs but it isnt awful. Also the earthbind aoe root is really fun and better than I thought especially in SM.
>>587370551100% they are lying. You walk into any of the 30+ zones and it's all horde on NA
>shaman>OOM
Made a level 1 on horde pvp just so other hordes cant make new characters
>>587369440based, doing your part to kill this shit game more like
>>587370863Not reading this shit but my noob ass>charges in>rends everything (if it isn't immune)>clicks sweeping strikes>switches to berserker>use cleave until sweeping strikes is off>swap back to balanced>reapply rend>repeat sweeping strikes and go back to cleaving in berserker
>>587370863>Miss doggystyle
>>587370783prot here. struggling with rage generation desu. I just hit 20 so I got a lot more tools now, but it was kinda rough until now. I'm not sure if I should be shouting for AoE threat like in the old days.
>>587370897Enhance shaman is a melee dps mostly. but you can also swap to resto shaman which is a full healer, i hear that one might have mana issues. enhance doesn't have the mana issues because it can larp as a melee dps just autoing
>>587370494Will either be completely ignored due to people reporting other players after one kill or make PvP unlivable because the AI that Blizzard use to GM will randomly ban people who get reported after one kill.
>>587371018I bet she plays a human female hunter with a wolf pet
>>587370912That's strange because I'm seeing multiple people putting their role up on the dungeon finder
>>587370345why? i actually never played shaman in wow
>>587371048nelf
>>587370551>They are definitely lying about the 45:55 right?I bet you they're being slimy jews and counting 0-playtime level 1 characters in the equation.
NICEBUFFSDOOOOODE
>>587370912>Be tank>Put self on group finder>Get a flood of whispers from healers and DPS looking to joinIts that easy desuwa my family.
>>587370770No?
>>587371150Any addons for us tank chads that categorize whispers or give it a healer/dps icon or something
>>587371143They are counting those are full players, it's already confirmed.
>>587370551Seems accurate to me on RPPVP
>>587370783Sort of going prot, i just spam thunderclap and demo shout, feels a bit like i'm playing paladin with extra steps, it's okay
The camping feature looks like shit and no one talks even on the pve server
>>587370551>>587371216This, RP-PvP is comfy as fuck, I actually don't see how horde could even have any numbers advantage
Should I reroll PVE if I am lvl34 and have 2d 7h played? There were 10 guys on both roads of arathis alliance camp killing anyone trying to quest...
>>587371191idk but 99% of the time I just ignore any warriors, and paladins unless they specifically say they're healing.
As a newfag I gotta questionWhen making alts, is there a downside to making an alt on the other faction? Do they all have to be the same faction for you to benefit off alt stuff? Experiencing the game from the other side seems cool, all my friends do horde but I think alliance races, cities and zones are cooler but haven't experienced it before
Why do niggas sign up for the PvP ruleset then get pissed when they get killed by another player?
>>587371264You cant mail yourself gold or items which sucks
>>587371242The camping shit is such a weird thing, players pretend it's the greatest social experience in mmos ever
>>587371263Based
alliance on vp should get extra exp and gold
YOU SUCK /wowfg/
>>587371242> no one talks even on the pve serverNobody is social on the raid logging ruleset?!?!? Who could have imagined!
>>587371242>pve serverRP server, i mean.
>>587371242Hey retard you have the ability to talk and try to get conversations going too, you know that right
im a lvl 32 noob what should i know going forwards
>>587371242Its made leatherworking essential for the tent xp buff
>>587371376Its all downhill from here
>>587370843welp time to reroll for turret bmt. spriest
>>587371376arch your back, push out your ass more
>>587371341DOOD ITS SO COOL TO FIRST WASTE 1 MINUTE OUTSIDE OF INSTANCE TO GET BUFFERINOS AND THEN 3 MORE FOR SLEEPY BAG!
>>587370343>>check their spec, it's not demohuh?I thought I was meant to go aff... should I respec demo?
>>587370783Also prot, just hit 16 so should improve a bit. I'm having a good time because I love original WoW, but not sold on my char choice. Troll in combat regen (and the cd) is actually pretty helpful for not having to stop between mobs.
>>587370780No, I think something is wrong/broken with layering. I cant see any active parties on my 18 priest or my 35 warrior. Its very unlikely that everything would just stop all of a sudden, when it was busy up until today.We are at the mercy of this weird layering shit and I really don't know what to think about it.
>>587371376we're all jumping ship to evercold next year
>>587371021>I'm not sure if I should be shouting for AoE threatHow else will you draw AoE aggro if you don't /y FAGGOT FAGGOT FAGGOT FAGGOT FAGGOT?
Im quitting pvp blizzard fucked with sharding i get 20+ allince no horde on my shard it's not fun or fair. peace out.
>>587371371no fucking thanks
>>587371498Green Tyrone not so tough after being bullied
Is reflex still bugged?
>>587370753>went the wrong professions DUDE, don’t you read the profession discord?
>tfw the high end camp items for BiS crafted gear are absolutely 1% drop blueprints from Strat, Scholo, etc
>>587371281Retards who thought it would be honorable 1v1 or glorious battles where two armies line up and all the epicness ensues as they battle for a town o algo
Holy fuck I hate the Skyelf textures. They are completely smooth and have no features of any kind.
>>587370982Doing this but also stealing every Green [STEREOTYPICAL NIGGER NAME] name I can think of before some nigger gets the same idea
Is it weird if I make a male priest?
>>587371308Oh are you completely unable to transfer any gold/items between different faction characters? So there's absolutely no benefit to having an alt on the other faction unless it were for experiencing the story/zones there? Man..
can paladins tank at low level now? i wanna roll one to see the ret changes, but i wanna speedrun is, and do all the dungeons and dungeon quests asap, so im wondering if starting with some weird semi-prot build will be viable for that?
>>587371281Because they didnt expect it to be a permanent rape dungeon with zero recourse. They thought it would be a sometimes encounter thing how they remember back in the day (they didnt play classic era).
>>587371589No, the priest in WC3 was a male high elf The only female priest was the female night elf
>>587371529yea turns out alliance players were right, fighting 20 + people on a pvp server sucks if you are the 1
Why aren't shards just hard locked to a number for each shard and then have X amount of shards that are perfect 50/50 balance (or close to) and then have overfill shards that are 100% horde?Sure horde questing would be overcrowded and fucked but maybe that would lower the chance of more horde and without destroying incentive for alliance players to roll pvp?Oh right, blizzard wants to add warmode...
>>587371582like dolphins
>>587371572Idiotic that they did not make them so that they drop from all last bosses at instances of specific level range.
>>587371257>>587371216cos there are 3 people plaiying there, retards
>>587371631So they are retarded? This is the way of pvp servers since 2004
>>587371681Never thought of elves with cloaca and cetacean penises before... Gotta generate few images...
>>587371447demon brand is broken
>>587371572ima sell this not for the 2.50 goldima sell this for 50g
>>587371582so, just like the blood elves that they are recolour of then?i always hated their look, enver understood why people were so obsessed with that shit race so much, even back on release i always thought they look like they have textures missing, like they are unfinished
>>587370530Target your character
have I over invested into hit? i don't know how much i need?
>>587371021More than 1 enemy>Thunderclap>demo shout>revenge and thunderclap on cooldown>if you have excess rage toss in cleave and sunder armor1 enemy>demo shout>revenge on cooldown>5 stacks sunder>spend excess rage on heroic strikeand remember you only need to hold threat. Once something is like <40% hp stop wasting rage on it.
>>587370343demonology needs a swarm of retard imps not hot babes yawnnn
>>587371148This is caused by having MotW already on you. >t. druid who tried it with and without motw to see if it overwote it
>>587371242I've only been doing the camping if a tent is up.I'm not sitting around silently for a minute with other people for +7 spirit or something
>>587371705Not really. Stop arguing about it man, we all actually played the game. You didn't. You're some newfag tourist who is trying to fit in (you never will).
>>587371823because the horde races are retarded niggers and people wanted to play something White. but they were edgy and didn't want to play the White Man Union of the Alliance, and wanted to "prove they were bashing the fash" and play the mutted horde.
>>587371887I guess that's the problem most players are stupid and in denial
>>587371830The game tells you. You need 17% for spells to never miss.
>>587371696Cope
>>587371242Most retail players are souless golems. why would i want to start up a conversation with them? atleast on turtle i could say nigger.
>>587371393Downside is the tent becomes useless the moment you ding 60, whereas other profs at least provide a shitty version of a class buff.
EU Alliance PvE <Non Functional> wwu
>>587371242Weird, its 50-50 for me, most of the time jokes.
>>587371814I see, guess I will do that at level 26 then
>>587371972Never played Turtle, but did I miss out?t. noob wow forever player
>>587371957vs +3 enemiesvs higher you need morevs +2 you only need like 6%but holy spells are so garbage it's a useless talent. better to wand.
>>587371598They buffed Righteous Fury and Defensive Stance threat, all tanks are braindead to play now
>>587371871>MotWhuh the fucks motw
>get pvp flagged by guards while running into stonetalon>a bunch of lvl 20 hutshitters decide they have numbers and try to kill me at half hp (37)>slaughter them allget fucked
>>587371070all the shaman skills are focused on raiding or groups. and there's nothing satisfying about them. conversely paladin skills all feel seriously op and because a lot of those skills are basically useless in pve, the class is usually balanced at a more acceptable level.
God the lighting is so good in forever. I keep getting reminded how good this looks and jizz a little bit.Retail could never.
>>587372000demon brand is extremely powerfuland then you get your capstone and you will literally never drop below 100% health / mana
>>587371957does it actually? where?
>see nelf female>dick twitchesevery time
>>587371242weird, cos im on pvp and everytime i make a camp with the 2 guys we are palying together, theres ALWAYS some fag coming and saying something cringy
>>587365371Cope. PvP rule set is cancer
>>587372073Mreath of the Wild, the game that ruined Zelda forever
Which class has the higher APM?Which has the lowest?
>>587371974just drop it at 60. 5% adds up on the higher levels.
The Riverglades zone lore is basically>Alliance civilians living in peace, farming and enjoying life>Horde niggers arrive>Slaughter farmers, steal their crops and burn everything down>Add nothing of value themselves and turn zone into a shit holeIt's really accurate to how Horde players actually play the game
>>587372002people talked at tents.
>antisocial pvp retards don't talk at campsweirdmeanwhile in the best server I've had conversations with peopleand some erp
>>587372178Thats how the entire world of azeroth is though
>>587372178thats basically the lore of every alliance zone. horde nigs pillaging, war, refugees
>>587372103I keep wondering why shadows dissapear constantly randomy and why is everywhere so foggy or so bloomy sometimes, i kind of agree but don't, if anything it just looks like modern lighting which is a good thing mixed with some weird old fogginess that doesn't merge too well all the time
>>587372157All the classes are low apm
>>587372157huntermage
>>587371972>atleast on turtle i could say nigger.no you couldnt, you lying faggot lmaoi literally got banned for saying niggertroondle had notoriously faggy moderation, who the fuck are you lying to
>>587372178Very accurate to the horde mentality.
>>587372178all warcraft lore is humans wuz chillan then demons/dragons/orcs came and fucked it all up
>Spirit Tap (+100% spirit for 15 seconds after a kill, 50% of the (doubled) regen continues in combat)>Meditation (50% of mana continues regenerating while casting)>3 points into the Legacy talent that restores mana + health after a kill>-10% mana costs from instant spells & -15% mana to cast PW:Shield soonDisc Priest is finally getting so comfy. So much mana...
Is TRP what I use if I want to broadcast being open to ERP?
>>587372157highest test class is female gnome priest with pink pigtails. Lowest test class is horde.
>>587372178so... every alliance zone?lmao
>>587370653>>587370741Didn't really answer the question. If they're both ass do people only want pally to tank?
>>587370783Level 42 prot warr.After getting shield slam enemies are melting even faster.Just did the trial of blood arena event in Riverglades solo.Shit is cash.
>>587372157highest is warriorlowest is probably rogue or paladin
>>587364897what kind of men do gnomes like that enjoy
>>587370551It's 100% a lie, I have been trying to get into level 30 zones for days and every time it's a huge horde advantage in population.They are probably massaging the numbers to get that figure so they aren't outright lying, including useless level 1 characters or something, because they know if they confirm that it's actually 60/40 or worse the server is doomed. That will just cause alliance players to jump ship even faster than they already are because we all know the inevitable result of such a large imbalance.
>>587372157roguepaladin
>>587372157Ragecapped prot warriorHunter
>>587372305Yes
>>587372157
It’s annoying getting 20 tells from huntards after joining LFG as a healer. There should be a hidden LFG that only tanks and healers can use for more discreet matchmaking…
>>587372369gnomes don't exist you degenerate
>>587372178I thought you trannies wanted le heckin war in warcraft?
>>587372448hunterGAWDS
>>587365068yea the 1.12 client sucked. you rolled PVP? yea same it's pretty fucking awful if I knew it'd be a meat grinder i would have just rolled hunter or rogue,
There are three fucking wow threads that's crazy.What's the fish to fish for the most dosh?
godgod PLEAAAAAAAASE add worgen (or draenei atleast) I CAAAAAAAANT play horde i have to player horde because tauren pLEAAAAAAASE
>>587364810Skill issue.
>>587372450Its called having friends, anon.
>>587372412Is there a mature section or tab in profile making? Some way to tuck ERP and kinks to the side?
>>587372178WoW is about Horde culturally enriching zones by burning them, turning them into warzones, salting the earth and building a bunch of mudhuts and spiky buildings on top.Then screeching they have no food and need to invade the next zone
>>587372450A dedicated healslut finder would be practical for the ERP scene
EU is cooked.
Why is the thread so dead and slow? Why is nobody playing and having a blast?
Are all of the AHs connected? Can I swap my gold from my pvp character when I reroll pve?
>pve and pvp share legacy pointsok i mite roll 1 pvesissy alt and level it with the rested exp talents just in case...
Imagine rolling on pvp and than complaining about it, typical alliance.
Cooking sucks ass to level. That is all.
>>587372638People are asleep or in work.
>been getting 144fps all week>login today>struggle to even maintain 80fpsWhat the fuck?
>>587372448Why are hunters and warriors flopping and rolling their dick on their keyboard?
>>587372638Mayhaps yon Blaster havers are perchance partaking of the forever wow, verily?
>what if classic era>but two classes are expac classes and you just have to cope if you dont play them? Hehe?World of paladin and hunter craft is extremely boring.
why are these quests grey?
>>587372636why you lying, tranny?its 55:45
Does Horde have any smaller town as kino as Auberdine?
>>587372679Get fishing. The recipes you get from the fishing vendor take you to 150 cooking without you needing to leave the starting pond
>roll pvp>you now have to fight outnumbered 1 to 3 for the rest of the game>wtf why are you complaining
>>587371649Chat is this cool?
>>587372151reeee
>>587372771Registered sex offender look
>>587372679>t. fishinglet
>>587372712hunter has a lot of movement if you weave
>>587372771He looks like he diddles young choir boys
>>587372448HOLY FUCK HUNTERBROS OUR DICK IS HUUUUUGE also big deeps
>>587372369Like all women. Beast men.
>>587372739With the estimate baked in, biibiisii lover.
>>587372771reminds me of my "self-proclaimed cool uncle" who used to kiss us goodnight on the lips
>>58737263655/45 btw:^)
>>587372771Certified meth abuser
>>587371830>she’s actually doing smite specSis it’s a meme to give you talents to avoid
>>587372448What sites this do they have other datagraphs for forever
>>587372771What Sims game is this?
It's not too late to reroll rpve
Is the EU Normal more populated than EU PvP? I'm leveling on both but I don't know where I want to play.
newfag here, what purpose do pvp worlds serve? Like do I get peoples drops if I kill them like in runescape?
>>587372807bruh hahahah
>>587372771perfect
>>587372923Need Cunnymane pregnant with green babies inside
Blizzerd?
>>587372636Lol amazingm. PvP ruleset is dead on NA and EU before week 1 is over. Why did I fall for their lies?
>>587372739
>>587372771Where's his hobo bindle?
>>587372941>>587372807Close enough, welcome back momentum demon hunter, please have a pleasant stepping into a puddle and dying.
>>587372731What level are you?
>>587365595Kek bodied that nigger
>>58737301021
>>587372940You get cosmetic honor which works as a currency and rank for the season, it's generally not worth to do pvp and there's zero reason to do it other than for fun and area/resource control
>>587372940They serve the purpose of making green tyrones feel powerful.
Weren't throwing knives consumable in vanil?
>>587372448>retri 9th>fury 4thWhy is prot and feral top 10 DPS??
Still playing Alliance.
>>587372559I would never be a “friend” with a dpsissy
<Density Forever> is recruiting! We are a primarily PST Horde PvE guild made up of retards from the old /dg/ threads. We are recruiting all classes though obviously in need of tanks and healers. Please message anyone currently online for an invite. If possible, if we could be added to the OP we'd appreciate it.
>We will be scheduling Maintenance for 7 AM PST and we expect maintenance to end by 7 AM PST
>>587373056that's why. They go grey if they're 6 levels or more below you.
This is the result of streamer culture. Most wow streamer pvp was based around horde bullying alliance in funny ways.Anyone consuming that content internalized the idea that horde are the pvp faction and alliance exist to get farmer. They wouldnt be caught dead as part of the faction they watched their fav streamer raping.
>>587372924https://h2a2.dev/en/forever/realms?region=EUTake it with a grain of salt because only Blizzard knows real statistics.
what are my odds of getting ploughed by a tauren hunk if I roll a horde sky elf?
>>587373126She better be hiding a futa cock behind that cloth.
>>587373184ah that makes sense thanks
>>587372641please respond, are the auction houses linked between rulesets or not??
>>587372636I play horde and i can promise you. it's the opposite for the last week all i've been doing is fighting alliance who out number me.
Will this sky elf starting zone ever end? Fuck...
>>587373109Its not a dps chart lil gup
>Figure I'll sub for a while>Need to enter password to finish payment>Forgot what I set my password to (Yes I AM retarded.)>Too lazy to change it>Just close battlenet for now
is Glovejob a good name for a gnome?
>>587373287not 100% sure but i'm pretty sure they aren't linked to each other. if you think about it, it doesn't mak
>>587373287Put something up for an oddly specific amount of gold and see if it's there on pve yourself you retarded faggot
>>587373338It should take you to 14 assuming you do everything.
>>587373368Yes. Now post more of this slut.
>>587373109Retardbro...
>>587373184Thank you. One more question please. Are grey quests no longer worth doing?I read in the thread in classic you were meant to travel across the world but when I got to the barrens i was already high level despite only questing in silverpine.
how do we fix NA pvp?
>>587373238Hordebros come back to PVE..
If you think Rogues had it bad before welcome to World of Druidcraft where your healer and tank are both rolling on leather
>>587373376e sense
>>587372448mage is so low because the 30 actions are all live or die decisionmakingtruly the thinking mans class
>>587373473Why did they just not make warmode...
>>587373469I honestly think it's too late at this point and Blizzard lying to our faces about the numbers sure as fuck doesn't help
>killing enraged stanley now gives 1 xpSOVLLESS
>>587372923Cunnymane is for blond boys
>>587373326>literally 0 awarenessIf you think it's bad for you despite the clear horde bias, how do you think it fares for the average alliancebab?
>>587373469Just abandon the concept and let the server rot. If it results in a ton of green tyrones unsubbing because of their hollow victory over alliance then so be it.
There's nothing like playing a 10k pop server with no layers
I didn't think I was such an autistic retard but I really can't enjoy the game on non hc anymore. kinda embarrassing
>>587373450There may be some that start low level then finish with a dungeon quest, or have a really good reward. my leveling guide had me doing level 10 kill quest at 17 to lead me into a dungeon quest chain, for example.
>have alliance on pvp server>had horde skelf on pveI literally did everything wrong...
Did DSP do much yesterday?
>>587373469You just walk away and play on pve with every other sane person
>>587373584you could always just use the hardcore addon again
>>587373238wtf is this vibecoded shit? cant switch off the pvp ruleset.
>>587373625
Aren't layers supposed to be separated by language? Either I'm on the spic layer or a bunch of them are invading an English layer because general is all Spanish and everyone has Spanish guild names.
>>587373483Why the fuck did they invite you?
>>587373625>skyborneyou did everything wrong indeed
>>587373342>>587373407I am big retard i am sorry
>>587373625https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dgOh2Uz-MM
>>587373717You set your language in the settings, I forget where but you have to manually set it
>>587373469make a 4chan guild
do i go prot paladin or shockadin/holy first
>>587372850biibiisii :)
>>587373717if you're in x language guildthe game auto puts you into that language chat>>587373785that gets overwritten by your chats language setting
>>587373625What's wrong with skelf?
>>587373483I'm a druid tank and I just don't invite rogues anymore.
>>587373179Is it 0 second maintenance or 24 hour maintenance????
Wow pvp ruleset doesnt function with soulless megaserver layers. Faction identity is just as important as server identity and pride. The only way faction v faction pvp works is when its forced 50/50 in specific pvp zones, which dont open unless both sides have the equal numbers.
>>587373126SEX what should i roll on the alliance?
>>587373785My settings are English, NA-East
>>587373717Yeah but language default is buggy and resets a lot on its own even. Many EU gets defaulted to french and even when you set it the next day you find out you're back to french and the language change supposedly has a day cd.There's also nothing telling players the setting is there
did the intern mess up the message or is the maintenance really just a minute
>>587373816>starting zone sucks major ass>racials are probably the least helpful of any classthe girls are cute though
>>587373831It doesn't say a different day/date for the maintenance.
>>587373469shit is already cooked no matter what desperate measures blizz might take. The prevailing narrative regardless of accuracy is that playing alliance on pvp is signing up to be endlessly ganked, and it probably is more accurate than not.No sane person actually wants that, so the alliance population simply will not meaningfully increase from where it is now and will likely decrease as people reroll and quit.
>>587373813>Guild language overwrites your own language settingskek. good job blizzard nice way to enforce racism with guilds
>>587373895You play them for the female model and voice because both are pvre sex
>>587373567>Horde biaswhat do you mean? has forever made changes bias to horde? how so?
>>587373895Skelf is a good choice for pve though, 2% haste is universally useful
>>587373895>Have garbage ass retard tier racials>Still incredibly popular because elves
Any way to only show friendly nameplates of partymembers?
>>587373942yep they fucked it
>>587373895Skelf sex thobeit
>>587373947made for getting titmogged by other races
>>587373885>internyou mean AI?
Any pvp alliance server on EU?
>>587373942It may seem idiotic but if it didn't you'd never seen your guildies which is even more idiotic...
What happened tot he OG facemeltor class, the spriest?
>>587373473Ummm.. Yeah I think that PvP server is going to be dead.I have a 34 character there and a 16 character on Normal. I'm switching to Normal.
>>587374068Thats a weird way to say H1-B
>>587373947>>587373895when can i do a race change?
FREE 18 SLOT BAG!https://www.youtube.com/shorts/MX2syHiDwXk
>>587374067What happened to this slopper?
>>587374128They're a microsoft company now that's most assuredly written by copilot.
>>587373473how long until blizzard is forced to either allow transfers or merge the servers?
please answer me. is there any chance i'll be able to make a horde pvp character? is it completely locked or can i abuse off hours or something to get in? i want to play with my guild.
How do you guys feel about blizzard putting spell and healing power on everything?i mean it draws a clear line for caster gear as most people don't even need on this stuff anymore, but it's really weird having this much of the stats on gear so low level i don't really know what to make of it. I feel like you use to only start getting SP gear at 30+ and it felt like a big deal to get like +7? but now we've got +20 at level 20.
>>587374163idk i wish theyd make more though
>>587374191You get what you deserve, green tyrone.
>>587372924Yeah PVE is always more populated than PVP.
>>587374115Raped and gaped
>>587374153Do you think people forgot that this guy is a notorious ninja and will still run raid with him only for him to ninja all the best loot to himself again
>read up on IV guide for ass rogue since I plan to switch to it after 40 and I actually have my primary builder>they don't take VigorNow I'll be the first to admit that Icy Veins is much better at playing the game than me but, guh? Why wouldn't you want 10 more max energy?
>>587374209They giganerfed the spell basedamage so the spellpower on gear is needed just to get back to the unbuffed damage levels.
>They refused to add BC races because they could sell a new elf racedamn
>mcdonalds is doing bogofwho else fatmaxxin' while playing forever?
>>587374283I don't watch streamers so idk sorry. Its just fatherless behavior.
>>587374209they literally raped the base damage of all spells. by level 30 the base dmg is much lower than in era.
>pick druid>have to level everything unlike other classessigh...
Its finally time to admit that we need Classic Fresh
>>587374191if youre on eu you can make a horde character on rppvp
>>587374191Kill yourself green tyrone
>>587374327I'm old enough to be your daddy and you will treat me as such
>>587374340Forever Fresh when
>>587374301for pve? vigor is obviously useless because you never max your energy. It's only useful in pvp for opener combos.
Why is bloodthirst giving movement speed, instead of health? Hasn't it always given health?
>>587374328>>587374305Oh I wasn't aware, that makes more sense. Thanks for explaining.
>>587374209Base spells suck ass, they nerfed them. You will do the dungeons, cuck. This also makes a lot of info players get look confusing as hell - like flash heal is way more efficient at base than Heal, but it scales a lot worse off healing power so ends up being less efficient.
>>587374283>literal who>the best mage of all timenow tell me, who deserved that staff?
>>587374301Because it'll only matter for the first...5 or so seconds of a fight?
>Picked the Ele weapon instead of EnhHow fucked am I?
>Be on rp pve server>Look at paladin names>Every last name is <light based verb> and <weapon or shield>>Every single one
Fine I’ll be rolling enhance but I won’t train any resist totems
>>587374336If you're feral, you have a feral combat skill now, no need to level anything once you reach 10.
>>587374432>best mage of all time>because hes good at leveling on a 20 year old game and nothing else
>>587374479Just get a dungeon two-hander, they’re better anyway and you get dung exp now
>>587374209Spell damage and Healing was created to fix the issue at high level where your spells stop scaling, it's not the best solution but it did its job fine.What Forever devs did is beyond idiotic, casters have to pick between having damage or overall useful stats because their damage is nerfed before 60 otherwise
>>587374503tbf that's like 90% of paladins in actual WC canon, you might as well be destined to be a paladin, it's like being born with the name Jack Stryker and not becoming a commando or something.
>>587372075
>>587374479Fucked for about 5 levels then it’s whatever
>>587374548Meaningful gearing decisions are good, actually.
>have to pick between spell power or statsumm actually having my pet out just gives me a weapon's worth of spell power :)
>>587374209Also, there were a couple of quest rewards and drops that were useful for literally everyone that can use it, those are now strictly caster items because they lowered the base damage to add SP
>>587374608just give it to him bro alliance players have been having a rough time as of late. they really need this
>>587374191right now alliance has more characters so if you make it right now you should be good.
They just buffed physical classes SO much compared to magical ones
>>587374645what’s she waiting for? a steamy creamy orc log of shit?
>>587374698big undead cock
>>587374659Good, eat shit “hybrids”
>>587374638I agree and that's how it worked before with stamina, spirit, intellect and the rare sp/hp items. The thing is that they achieved this by lowering your base damage which obviously feels like shit for anyone that is playing a allegedly better version of the game
anyone know what the enh shaman changes are today? i know int wont be as valuable, but what about raw spellpower
They should turn off pvp between 15:00 to 23:00 so dadgamers and people with a job can level in peace. Everyone knows world pvp enjoyers are jobless virgins anyway so it would not affect them at all.
>>587374697doesn’t seem to be the case on my limp dicked rogue
>>587374209It's great because I immediately see what I should roll need on if I heal, or greed if I don't
>>587374659Yea I've noticed that, in the past you could grab a caster item ignoring that stats because the DPS is high but caster items now have a much lower DPS.Although atleast for this WC quest they were offering a 2-handed mace that was about the same if not better than the old crescent staff cope.But it seems like it hit gear in dungeond aswell so no more warriors just taking staves because it's a big stick, and maybe less rogues taking caster daggers because they have no other choice possibly.
>>587374779fuck off. dad faggots can roll on pve. why did they pick pvp to begin with
>>587374751there's two issues(1) it's hard to find spelldamage gear. most old quests don't give any. dungeons have a fair bit but running dungeons multiple times gives no exp.(2) spelldamage eats the item budget so you'll get less of other stats to have same damage as era
>>587374803There is like 1 HP item per dungeon, fuck it I will need on the HP/SP stuff as well as a healer. What’s lil Timmy gonna do about it?
>>587374689i have been trying all morning because i was reading that they throttle it dynamically but i'm also reading now they updated it as of like a day ago to no longer do that, and i do not know what information is accurate.
Shaman need to learn to control their threat. Ss+windfury at the beginning of every pull fucks everything up for everyone. Just wait 1 or 2 globals for a sunder to get out before you blow your load all the way.
>>587374965get good scrub
>>587374503john nucleararthaskiller will be my next paladin.
>>587372075>get pvp flagged by guards while running into stonetalonCamp bag quest?Happened to me too. I was lvl20 tho and a lvl30 hordie hit me once for fun I guess.
>>587374965Why? Before shaman gets threat reducing talents they barely take damage from melee hits anyway? Just let us enhamances offtank one mob while you deal with the rest.
>>587374965DPS? Wait?The ADHD goblins do not wait. The tank must generate greater threat.
>be healer>invite mage to group>ask for a stack of water>kick him>replace with another huntard
>>587374990why do you have shit on your face?
I’ll just watch the new dungeons and zones on YouTube. cba leveling solo
By the way, how to check if I got PvP flagged by guards/other things?
>>587374915>fuck it I will need on the HP/SP stuff as well as a healerHave you not been? I assumed that all healers were rolling on spell damage gear. If blizz wants me to be out in the world instead of grinding dungeons then yeah I'm gonna need on shit that makes me kill stuff faster.
>>587374965It's okay, they can tank a few hits. Just wait for 60 where they do the same, die, or die and wipe the raid and the raid leader calls them out for being retarded
>>587374779>Rolled a hunter for nostalgia reasons as it was my first class in vanilla>Level 22 and not feeling it thoughSo how are the various tanks at the moment? I think I need a role change.
>>587375127If you have your faction symbol on your unit frameOr you can turn your name on and if it goes yellow you are flagged.
>>587375098basednow do the same with warlocks after they're done summoning everyone like the good little cuck they are
im scared of tanking in raids
>>587375170Oh I see, thanks!
>>587375127Alliance/Horde emblem on your character portrait. If it's there, you're flagged
Doomersissies btfo
>>587375161idk why I quoted you sorry
>>587375224Bigwigs just tells you exactly what to do lol.
>>587374915Do it bro I had caster chuds try and take HP+ gear from me by saying well it has some SP+ on it. fuck em.
>>587375309fake
>>587375161All seem pretty viable. Warrior seems largely unchanged from classic. Paladin is kinda gimped until they get consecrate and bear is probably the easiest.
>>587375138No its not okay. I need the mobs hitting me so I can generate rage from blocking or dodging/parrying them. When dps rip threat instantly it shuts down rage gen and fucks up the entire pull. If they just wait one global it could stabilize but they dont. So I have to charge ahead like a retard and do retard pulls just to get rage to tank without the retard dps fucking it up.
>>587375309green tyrone cope to justify how they aren't actually ruining pvp
>>587375161war and pala are both great. Prot war is also very good at solo leveling.
>>587375109She just returned from a rimming session with a group of orc men
Anyone else think dungeons are too easy?I know they're not meant to be hard obviously but outside leveling is more of a challenge than dungeons. Should be the opposite.
>>587375371>bear is probably the easiestis bear easy but still fun, or easy and overly simplistic feeling?
>>587375309BUT THE TRIALS THAT TOTALLY COUNTTHEY WERE GETTING ERA PLAYERS TO MAKE CHARACTERSSTOP STOP MY NARRATIVE NOOO
>be mage >dogshit dps and need to drink after every 2 mobs>make a mistake or pull too much and I need to frost nova and gtfo>reroll paladin>everything dies in 2 hits>barely lose health>health regenerates by the time i reach the next mob>need to actually pull like 5 mobs before having to put in some effort and still come out on top no problemWhat a difference. No wonder mage is the least played class. For fucks sake.
>>587372448the actual measure of difficulty is decisions per minute multiplied by the number of realtime variables those decisions need to consider divided by the amount of time you have to consider those variables after they become known and nothing to do with how quickly you tippitty tap on the keyboard but y'all aint ready for that conversation
>>587375309what kind of retarded metric is this supposed to be?
>>587375496Mage is in a weird place currently which sucks because it'smy favorite class.
>>587375457>dps>why is it ez???You literally do nothing in dungeons, try tanking pugs.
>>587375494they were and blizzard is downplaying it. keep coping green tyrone
>>587374918use the 10 day code to make more alliance lel
>>587375386If you don't have enough rage just ignore that mob, the shaman is not going to die regardless, this way you build threat on other mobs then taunt that mob later when you can keep the threat up
>>587375476With bear you just press swipe on repeat and if its a big pack the roar to reduce incoming damage and you can probably tank all the dungeons up till 60 doing this.
>>587375428>>587375371Hrmmm I'll have to decide between warrior and paladin then.
>be bear druid tank>tankxiety and don't know how to play well>don't know dungeon layouts>still get easy groups because there's 1 tank for every 500 dps
>>587375496>No wonder mage is the least played classthat's rogue thooo
>>587375549i am playing a mage and it is ass., does it get better at some point or should a go play huntard or something.
>>587375541according to 4chan only 1% of players are on alliance
>>587375476In the few instances Ive tanked its been alright, but that was only up to level 20. Ive switched to cat since someone else in my group wants to tank but I am screaming ahead of them in levels so I'll probably also pick up lacerate when I can. It definitely feels a lot easier with the recent threat buff just before launch, +115% just for being in bear form. You can't really just sit and spam swipe but you arent constantly in crisis management anymore. I assume rotating thru targets to apply Lacerate stacks like a warrior does Sunder Armor would add some engagement.
>>587375646it stays ass until you get a decent amount of spell power on your gear, and that's probably 40 or even 50+
in general is it better to focus on yellow quests or green quests?
>>587375424>ruin pvpWPvP is shit by default. Retail was right, there should be war mode.
>>587372746>>587372805Fishing sucks ass too. I'm too fucking slow and always lose the fish. Unironically a skill issue but fuck you.
>>587375646Play Arcane, bro
>>587375652and your evidence against that is fucking auctions? are you a retard?yeah ok, I think I'll believe the census data reading actual characters and not how many pieces of linen cloth happen to be listed.PvP is at minimum 60/40 going by census data and probably deteriorating as we speak.
>>587375134I only roll on healing shit or spirit and intelligence stuff. Out in the world I'm wanding anyway
>>587375712Easier quests first because if they grey out that's a big loss.
people are mass quitting forever
>>587375712if you're a spellcaster I would stick to green. If you're warrior/pala/huntard then you can do yellows and even orange as easily as spellcasters do greens
>>587375656>>587375612conflicting thoughts here
Every second player is in asmongolds guilds
Did the shaman nerfs happen yet?
>>587375579tanking is piss easy in this game no idea what you're crying about or pretending like it's challenging
>>587375185warlocks are always the last to the instance though
Is enchanting improved in forever or is it still really expensive to level with no real useful levelling items?wondering if i should drop skinning for it.
>>587375759i'm level 9. i have to drink after casting 3 spells. which isn't enough to kill 1 mob.
>>587375820well its two different people. shocking that two different people would have two different opinions or views on something.
are you soulfully leveling?
>1 copper ore is 1s on AHBrb making an orc and mining for hours in starting zone
>>587375838Then heal a group of retards?My point is, stop whining while you play a role that could literally dc and nothing would change.
>>587375635>druid>tankxietyBro its a 2 button tank. What are you anxious about?
>>587375832Even my friends joined asmongold guild.
>>587375931Zug zug
kek
>>587375457Raptors in wetland dung are spicy for some groups.The sunken city filters some groups at the blood ball boss.
>>587375934But healing is also easy
>>587375820I must say I was at the higher end of the level bracket so maybe that's why spamming swipe was so easy?idk man i rarely need to single taunt a mob to peel them off. Basically only if the huntard's pet pulled something else
>>587375921sure, if you call soulful leveling disconnecting and having to corpse run every 30 minutes
>>587375921there's no way that shitbox runs forlol
>>587375838most dungeons are pretty simple with simple mechanics. DPS is the easiest role to play in the game with the least amount of effort required. so it doesnt sound like youre playing a role that suits what youre looking for. try tanking or healing
>>587375921What is that?
soul
Why haven't they made a WoW movie yet?
>>587376053ayn thor
Can anyone explain to me why as a lvl 45 I can even be touched by lvl 20s? Was boosting my friends through deadmines and there were horde able to hoj, fear, and slow me. I still killed them all but how is there not a 99% chance to miss? If anything I was missing everything on an evasion rogue that was 20 lvls below me which makes even less sense to me while he lands every gouge and stun on me
why so many ppl pick horde on pvp servers?
>>587376061Skelf zone is nice
post nigs
whats the prot warrior poignard tech again
>>587376061how can it be soul when your screenshot is full of anti-soul gas?
Nigga how is tankxiety even real. There's no speed run meta like retail and if a group kicks you they're waiting years for another tank lol
>>587375993dumb ESL
>>587372448Rogue actually has 120APM because your Sinister Strike always misses so you have to keep pressing it again making you GCD locked with a 1s GCD, you then have to keep walking behind the enemy because the spastic tank can't stand still so you have to include "Steps" as actions because if walking is considered a 200IQ action for a Hunter it should be considered a 200IQ action for everyone else
>>587376038>>587375838Don't try healing it's actually fucking awful.It's like trying to bake a cake with someone only to see them toss entire eggs into the fucking bowl shell and all.you either get people with no idea with what their doing or people who think they know what doing. both are fucking awful.healers need a spell that leash the fucking tank to them like a disobedient dog.
>>587376116Combination of nigger worship and people knowing its going to be the team everyone else rolls on.
>>587376137
new>>587376214>>587376214>>587376214
>>587376116They're all green tyrones
>>587376152I'm upset by people being mad at me
>>587376116I pick Horde on any type of server.
>>587376243Thanks to megaservers if you fuck up there's a 99.9% chance you'll never see them again so who cares lol
>>587376116coolest side to play shadow priest in
>>587376140Nigger what are you talking about
>>587376107Level difference dictates missing chance not dodge chance so while you can have 0% miss chance against someone you can't reduce their dodge chance by being higher level, defense/weapon skill difference changes this but it's not as dramatic as miss chance bullshit
>>587376091Gotta get through warcraft 2 and 3 first. Plus Frozen Throne and Forsaken Kingdom.
>>587376116They need to be carried. Horde is the "PvP faction" so all the shitters role horde so they can get carried. Real PvP gods roll alliance for the challenge.
>billion palas>no one buffs....
>>587373469What's EU pvp like?
There should be an incentive for a tank or healer to return to a dungeon they already got the items and quests from.
>>587376493Feet detected
>>587376493i realize we now live in a world without zally toes.
>>587376116way better quests and many zones have horde flight points near the dungeon entrances.
Newfag here again, should I grind dungeons for the loot or do the quests and dip so I dont overlevel for nothing?
>>587376852you won't over level
>>587372923stop trying to tempt me i don't want to die of dehydration
Thank you blessed Murloc, im fucking rich now
>still no pvp vendorsI want my fucking tabard you rats
>fps drops by 100>check reddit>disabling and re-enabling "optional GPU features" fixes itThe fuck?
>>587377458wtf they buffed its speed? itsgood now?
>>587376493
>>587375540Survival Hunter.
>>587372636They'll just ban people from creating more horde chars on the ruleset until morale improves.
>>587375014yes
>>587375964SOUL
>>587372981>Estimate with 40% inaccuracyWhat the shit
>>587369532People were warned that pvp happens on a pvp server, and not always in grand massive pvp battles that pit the Horde vs Alliance in epic fashion. Most pvp is some asshat sniping you when you're at 10% health trying to finish a quest. If that kind of ball-breaking humiliation ritual doesn't interest you then I have no idea why you'd sign up for it.PVE ruleset gives you everything. You can play the game in peace whenever you want and when you actually feel like killing sub-humans (Horde) you just queue up for BG's. I'm always amazed that people in your position didn't just nope out of PVP at the ruleset choice screen and go straight to PVE.That being said, 1 week is no big deal.Chalk it up to a life lesson and come over to PVE.You'll enjoy your game time here.
>>587367868Nah go ahead retard, transitioning soon?
