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i love my boy ralsei
Personal creations anchor, reply with your latest work!
Ralseiposters deserve being smothered by paws
Man, these people took my kids from meThen they closed my bank accountI got so much anger in me, got no way to take it outThink that I'm stuck in a matrixWhere the fuck's my nitrous?Yes, I am a cuck, I like when people fuck on my bitchThe shit that I'm posting on TwitterThey telling me, "Ye, don't say that"How niggas can't see me in public?I'm driving a all chrome MaybachWith all of the money and fameI still can't get my kids backWith all of the money and fameI still don't get to see my childrenNiggas see my Twitter but they don't see how I be feelingSo I became a NaziYeah, bitch, I'm the villainNigga, heil HitlerNigga, heil HitlerThey don't understand the things I say on TwitterNigga, heil HitlerThey don't understand the things I say on TwitterAll my niggas NazisNigga, heil HitlerNigga, heil HitlerNigga, heil HitlerAll my niggas NazisNigga, heil HitlerShe wanna fuck in JapanI put the chrome on the BenzNigga, heil HitlerShe reaching down in my pantsShe got the world in her handsNigga, heil HitlerNigga, heil HitlerNigga, heil HitlerAll my niggas NazisNigga, heil HitlerNigga, heil HitlerNigga, heil HitlerAll my niggas NazisNigga, heil HitlerNigga, heil HitlerNigga, heil HitlerNigga, heil HitlerNigga, heil HitlerSaid Kris
Fluffers
>>587382248this pot of beans was stir checked by real delicate pawb enthusiasts as TRUE
Reminder kris is a sensitive young white man and should not be misgendered or blackwashed, if you do so you are a manphobic racist bigot chud and you deserve to die
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grotesquely fat faves
>>587382501cute girl
Thread sure is extra bad today
Hello thread friends, neutrals, and enemies. Please post your fave with religious zeal.
>>587382520>random attention whore already there
dess won because she isn't in a shit game like deltarune
Kris is not being forced to do anything for dess, everything he does is out of love
>>587382660>>587382672thread will improve tomorrow morning, crust the plan
>>587382701Whiteboard secondaries are welcome here.
Kris and only Kris should be misgendered because she's a worthless chud who keeps fucking everything up and is working with the bad guy. Fuck Kris and her feelings.>>587382759Fuck Ralsei too
>>587382660Temfag is being unemployed and friendless again, what a sad loser!
>>587382701Who are you calling an atrentionwhore HUH?
>>587382672
>>587382825This anon fucks left and right, what a SLUT
>>587382759We all know that's not true
>>587382109Hooman!
>>587382834Maybe if the femanons started being nice to him again he'd chill out and make OCs with us. But noooo the girls don't want to self sacrifice for anything.
i want ralsei to be a brat towards kris then do a naked dogeza in apology
>>587382501I bet he likes his prostate teased
>587383140
BREAKING NEWS: "DELTARUNE" CHAPTER 6 CONFIRMED TO RUN AT 30 FPS
>>587383140He only AI generated illegal porn while posting gore and pictures of his dick. That's not OC. Hopefully he hits his head against a wall hard enough to finish the job his mormon parents started.
>>587382520There was still work in progresses on the last one…. Oh well
>>587383378you're still allowed to draw on the old one, you know
>>587383304the human eye can only see 1 frame per second though
>>587382863
>>587383183blue is not for anyone who likes femboys, he’s for yaoi fans who think they like femboys. femboy fans tend to go for characters where the androgyny level is more natural/exaggerated vs being a regular guy in a tutu. like this, blue, is no fun, i want the fantasy of perfect androgyny/femininity in a dude. i can do this and see this irlit’s a shame because a cute black femboy could’ve been fresh but instead he’s just yaoibait for western slash faghags
>>587382109>AHHHH!! MIYAZAKI!!>Toberu, I, famous creator of Ghibli firms, was just about to say that your amazing games have caused me to reverse my normal curmudgeonlr exterior, but you have now acted like a fangirr. Fairwell.>NOOO! It was my wrist pain, it caused my…. nonbinary behavior. MIYAZAKI!! AGGHH!! AAAOOH! IT WAS GOOD REPRESENTATION COME BA-AAAAUUUIIHHHGAA
>>587383550>western slash faghagsthe fuck are you even saying
>>587383183Worst character toby created ever?
>>587383183the big question is: how much doe certain people like deltarune characters apart from what they want to see in the character
>>587383514
>>587383720chud art is so ugly
>>587383608Fuck off retard. >>>/co/
>>587383759>how much doe
What type of spinoff game, like a puzzle game or kart racer, would you want from the Underrune series if you could get one? What genre?
>>587383701
>>587383762
>>587382520Some anon asked for a hug so we must draw hugs.
>>587383883i'm still sigg, anon.i don't feel so bonita.
>>587383882Haha you got ownedAnyway I’ll make some Kris drawings in a few minutes for this wonderful community of the mentally ill
>>587383625do you know what slash means
>>587383967eatyour GREENS
We need a newsletter
>>587383832Chuds own you
>>587383183>>587383720Really bad posts today
too much off model cuntboy slop of spamton
We need an I'm Oldsletter!
>>587384147>more ugly art
>>587383891Underrune's basically designed for some kind of head-to-head bullet pattern game but I just can't figure out how it would actually work
>>587383918
>>587384083>>587384092the thread will be better tomorrow, trust.
the only way to save /utg/ is to post our cocks
>>587384080i don't get why people hate on sauerkraut but go "yum" for gherkins that are fermented the very same way.kimchi is just sauerkraut but spiced.>sauerkraut, german:I>sauerkraut, asia:O
>>587384215yeah, where's the on model dickgirl gems of spamton
>>587384283
>>587383550I somewhat agree, but, >>587383720All the flowers barring Flowery are really shit do I don't entirely get why Blue gets the most heat. Imo he’s one of the best simply because he gets the least screen time and he’s not as obnoxious when he is on screen.
>>587384147DAMN.bitch puts the heil in heiligabend.
porn of this thing
>>587384083almost like there's a difference between real life and fiction
>>587384210>>587384303It can always get worse
>>587384440
>>587384348which is your favorite fruit?
It’s not even 10am yet and you’re acting like this
>>587384691
>>587384705With a heavy heart I must say that ultimately Asriel can't be like this because it would be completely impossible to take him seriously when he actually shows up and participates in Kris's character arc
>>587384781strawberries, pears and kiwis.cherries here kinda fucking suck.
>>587384997It's 10:56.
>>587385028Just flush yourself already temshit.
>>587384661>>587384997this place will improve tomorrow during the day, trust the wise goat here
>>587384705EEEWEEEEEEWWWWWWWW
>>587384781almonds for the nutrients
>>587385089>>587385270sounds gay
I miss the time when this retard spammer posted half of the things on this ITT on a previous thread like a week ago and he literally got 0 replies because the thread was too busy being dead and he left immediately after posting like the 10th ugly mspaint drawing probably done by a teenager in their edgelord phaseWe should do that more often, I think
>>587385241I know right? A Legend of Zelda shirt? Talk about getting the Ick.
fave has grown very tired of everybody around them performatively moralfaggingcurrent day sucks gote peen
>>587384484He's a straight up negro and also his character is simply the fucking worst in the game. He's basically the wholesome chungus tumblrina "Oh, we must be full of love and empathy torwards one another o algo" and this is played completely with a straight face. I'd get that being integrity but he also had flaws of being an untrustworthy and thieving person, but since his character is played straight such flaws never come to get addressed or have consequences in any way. And by last he's also a fucking faggot, his second biggest character trait is dating a mentally retarded man and ruining both characters with faggotry
>>587383421I often do
>>587385496People are not moralfagging you're just a retarded cunt.
>>587385406>>587385496>>587385570thread morale will improve on the next sunlight dawn, trust the prophecy
>>587385363gay sex with pancakes
>>587385628You will never be a womanBut you will always be a newfag.
i gotta wonder if the increasingly loud vilification of cuckolding is being forced or notlike they get off on being humiliated, right? if cuckolding gets normalized or forgotten by the public at large then they can't cum or whateverfeels like a scheme by big cuck to trick all of society into getting them offsaid ficus licker
>>587385649Lost all hope a long time ago, chief
>>587385748I'm neither you retarded cunt. Jesus you're fucking stupid.
I feel like I'm the only person who really liked Blue.
>wanders into the wrong thread>munches on some grass>wanders out
i want more of this spamthing
when you know someone in particular on the bunkercord is behind at least some of the artschizo posting but you just can’t prove it
>>587385815I also really liked him, wish we could've seen a little more of him
>>587385815I like him fine even though he's not in the Fave territoryI dig how he no-sells Flowery and just tries to make the most of his one day alive on his own terms
>>587385656dangerously based chief>>587385804return to the light and be filled with hope? pretty please chief?
being a krisdom kress shipper is tough
>>587385847the slow blink is the best part of this gif
/utg/ and its opinions start to make a whole lot more sense when you account for most of the users here being secondaries from twitter.
>>587386103we live in dark times
>>587386019Being a Krisdom shipper of any kind is tough when it's so at odds with canon for a midget who can't say no to dominate anybody
>>587386103deltarune is most of these people's first fandom and it really fucking shows
>>587386103>>587386157bread will be baked better tomorrow, trust the chef
>>587386019>>587386203Krisdom is good too
They really do all get obsessed with the same 15-20 images on loop huh
>>587385956well who, spill
>>587385936she even got some porn back in ye aulden days.
>>587385570Also his sprites being inconsistent and him having the least ammount of conceptualization said on the newsletter makes me think not even toby cared about this character lmao
>>587386583if kris was into feet they are 1000% the type to do weird shit to peoples feet as a kid like randomly licking them or stealing shoes because they have no sense of shame or understanding
Ralsei teaching Susie and Kris how to bake only for them to turn and look at each other when they mishear "go ahead and need the doe".
>temshart orbiting dess nowfigured
considerdess getting saved from the code or whatever but she's still the same age she was when she disappearedso 17 year old noelle can groom her 13 year old big sis
>>587386414I can get more images, but you will be a man forever
I just cannot take this seriously
dont stand sodont stand sodont stand so close to fave
>>587386735Me neither
>>587386731Well duh, I’ve got more test in a single finger than you have in your entire scrawny body
fave misses their videogames...
pouring syrup on goat and im liiiiiiiiickin it
>>587386203It's okay, they can dominate the vessel
you know whatFUCK the prophecyFUCK waiting around for a better thread to happen on it's own on a different dayi am making the thread better... NOWWITH ME OWN BEAR HANDS!the time has come peoplePOST YOUR FAVES!
In dire need of a ralsei in my life
>>587387106pouring syrup on fave and grilling that bitchboy until he becomes glazed, encrusted in a crystal prison of hardened sugar, caramelized in an agonizing prison of pure sugar.the only regret is that you can only hear him scream once.
>>587387113But how will Kris do any of their epic manipulations and gaslights on a creature that just stands there and stares
>>587387106SEX!
>>587387238but enough about kris
Damnn! Chapter 5 era schizos feel the most mentally stunted and/or underage they've ever been! The education system is failing!
>>587387434the schizoboss was a tranny according to transgender people.
>>587387152
>>587387434chapter 5 so bad it kills neurons
>>587387372>>587387574
gooooooooooooood morning krusty crew i love chara i'm hugging them and holding them and nuzzling my face into their sweater. ok. thank you.
>>587387434I think this is a microcosm of the fact that the site’s entire demographic has been imploding and the holes are getting filled in by people who are genuinely retarded on a medical level, shit’s really fucking bad if you peep outside of /utg/
>>587387574this is canonthis is what he looks like
>>587386203this is ooc, kris isn’t a wimp. he’s known as the town freak and from chapter one was doing stuff like growling (mild hyperbole) at monster kid for shit talking sooz. pretty sure he bullied/teased noelle too
I love fish
>>587387727that goes for every site
>>587387663
>>587386698he already was, he was posting aislop of her and carol and posting about how carol has human feet not hooves
>>587387256VesselGPT so advanced it learns from Kris and mimics them so they can outschizo each other
>>587387823Just glaring and acting out instead of actually defending Susie at all is an extremely passive aggressive bitch move on Kris's part though
>>587387823>not a wimplittle bitch crying when shit doesn't go their way
>>587388068i too would cry if an eldritch parasite was forcing me to my death at the hands of a doe
>>587386203>a midget who can't say nowhich is where the appeal lies for me. that shouldn't be happening, especially to dess out of all people, yet somehow she's getting dominated. tamed, even
>>587387962
>>587388068kris knew he was going to die that daywouldn't you cry?
noelle (normal route) is pretty much the only wimp in the main cast and even she bites back a little bit
doe mama
>>587388161maybe don't fuck around with the eldritch parasite then
>>587388225
i think kris and the vessel should kiss
i remember last week when /utg/ was good
>>587388339Kris gets all upset if she zaps her back at the force fieldIt's cute
>>587388265>>587388161>kris knewThey didn't. How could they have known Noelle was going to force them into committing double suicide? Kris was just sad Noelle got mindbroken.
>>587388436next week will be better
>>587388436I didn't know last week was 100 days ago
>>587388487if you view lake skip as a double suicide and especially if you think wr is about noelle being “mind broken” then you are retarded
What would you pour on Fave besides syrup?Honey?
>>587387434Everyone with an IQ higher than room temperature is busy reading books, taking walks, and buying more physical copies of films and music. It's legitimately the easiest it has ever been to just walk away and not post on 4chan or look at even worse social media or youtube. It's all unusable now.
Mario 2 goes to Hometown "Did you know? I was originally called Doki Doki Panic" "I don't know enough to either confirm or debunk this" -Susie
>>587388632>Honey?yes babe? what is it?
>>587388408
>>587388625then why was Kris crying?
>>587388220As a shota he gets dommed, when he gets older she's the dommed. Domination loss at it's finest
>>587385956don't leave us hanging
>>587387574>>587387728why do fat people draw blatantly skinny characters as fat? is it insecurity?
>>587388739
>>587388845this would've been cool desu
>>587388845oh no.pommes and the gum shot.
>>587388764
>>587384590Nah it’s just superficial niceness.Toby himself used to say offensive shit like about Helen Keller and is superficially perfectly politically safe today, and that comes across in his writing.When Christians read a story like about St. George and the dragon, or the Lord of the rings, they actually fully believe in it, while Toby and his fanbase are controlled by a tumblr sense of ethics that was created by socially sadistic people.
>>587388840You now remember the official arts they gave Ralsei and Susie potbellies
>>587388840I'm usually not a fan of making characters fat, but I think it works here, I could absolutely see Ralsei being chubby and it looks endearing on him
>>587388814i know things only some people know about but i can't tell you
>>587388730>Hey babe, what are some good fluids to be smothered in, besides the obvious?
>>587388436I don't have a dossier but based on my no-life observations I notice around ~3-5 reoccuring posters that cause the threads to turn bad.1. 5agsfag/keyjingler (maybe 2 different people but considering they show up at almost the same time probably not) tries to force angry baitposts about Chapter 52. Liquid temfag/shartfag, the guy who's shitting up this thread, he shows up with really low effort sharty images and characters in nazi uniforms, says sharty lingo like "o algo" all the time3. Maybe actual temfag, showed up last night spamming unrelated porn schizophrenically4. Unknown new quadrant, this might have also been temfag but last night people were posting some really genuinely evil porn links and alluding to the fact they look at worse stuff in their free time, I think these might be the same as the standard loli/shota/toddler posters, could be like 2-3 people5. Artschizo, no further clarification needed
I think kris will die but noelle and the soul will make through the BARRIERand I do think kris knows everything about the game because they played it before
>>587389010the saliva from your kisses <3
>>587388963>>>/co/
>>587388667Why are you still here then?
>>587389036I just assume all of them are in the same buttbuddy groomercord
>>587388973"""chubby""", that's obese. this is chubby
>>587388986to death with you
>>587388667>It's legitimately the easiest it has ever beenit's not easy, it's lonely, but i would still put it like "it makes the most sense it ever has" since you are right it's fucked whether you like it or not
>>587389150Flush yourself temshit.
>>587389036Threadshitting will continue until morale improves
>>587388973his gut is bigger than his ass man
>>587389346threadmorale will be fully operational tomorrow, trust the plan
This is not NSFW. This is a completely harmless pic.
>>587389214We accept goats of all body types here.
Sometimes I wonder if local area network groups are getting more popular these days, stuff like that sounds pretty good now
>>587389404The magic is stored in the belly
>>587389036I'm one(maybe only) of the good shota posters (not kressfag btw)
>>587389313>refused to answer the questionKek, what a faggot. Said noelle
>>587389059I think Noelle will get Used Up and Kris and SOUL will make it to wherever all this nonsense is supposed to be taking usKris has not experienced Deltarune before because that causes more problems than it solves vis a vis Kris's behavior but Kris DOES know enough for Weird Route to be something they would knowingly enact because it's not like Noelle or I came up with the idea so by process of elimination it's Kris
>>587389439even this type?
So what’s the twitter source for all of these mspaint abominations, I know sharty mcgroomed won’t answer that
*rubs big belly*more fatties please
>>587389608Especially that type.
>>587389404that's biologically how men store fat
>>587389413What a cute sensitive young white man and his boyfriend and girlfriend>>587389528They will hate all of you the same, don't try to stand out as "good"
>>587389469there should be a movement to actually all agree on trying those even if you're a basement dweller not seeing the sun for years, like we're all getting off the internet come join us and maybe someone else you actually relate to will be there too
>>587389127lol ownedNah posting here breaks your social sadism lil man. Besides, I’m an uncle of Toby’s creative works, what’s the problem with getting a little handsy
>>587389036I have 5agposted before because I think it's funny. I do actually think Chapter 5 is shit, though.
>>587389637Just search for deltachud accounts on twitter, lazyass bum
fat "people" are disgusting, and you're evil if you want fave to be fat
>>587390051i'll allow asriel to be a big booty goat if he wants to be
>>587390051based and 'vke
>>587390025>shitposter didn't like chapter 5tracks
>>587390025>Chapter 5 is abysmal dogshit>community becomes abysmal dogshitGerson vvon btw
newsletter?
i like ralsei with a pear shape and a slightly chubby tummy not fat just slightly squishable
>>587390051but sexually bullying fave over their weight is hot
>>587390254why does a dark sun fit so much in a game where themes of light and dark and its twilight are so heavily present?
goodnight chat, i am going to bed early today, cya tomorrow frens :)
i'm back. what was that guy last night's big reveal?
All of this clownshit spam being so poorly drawn is what gets me the most.
>>587390312>mentally abusing faveyou're even worse
>>587390254now why are noelle and ralsei hung up there
>Healthy aryan male that wasn't mindraped by kikes and is with his penis intact didn't like chapter 5Tracks
>>587387727cute everyman
>>587390619you're from iran?
>>587386952dude immediately bolted after this>>587390503it was literally just queen of /v/
"you're evil if you want a big fave to lay on top of you and keep you warm at night"whateva nigga
Fave casts Restore Foreskin
>>587390613It happens
>>587387434bad chapter = lame schizossimple ass
>>587390759oh. that's something of a let down. thank you, though.
who else here is american and still has their foreskin
>how it feels to hate chapter 5 for genuine good reasons while being surrounded by retarded haters (suselle hater, kris self inserts, chuds)
i want to possess kris and wrap myself around ralsei's petit body
>>587390759I didn't bolt off, I just didn't think such a faggot deserved an answer kek
mad
>>587390893I love you wiwiposter
i could never hate anything toby made with love in his heart, because i am spiritually pure
>>587390935There's no such thing as "bad/incorrect" chapter 5 hate.
but i like chapter 5
>>587390765>fave lives to serve me!!!!1. you should be the one to serve fave2. fat fave lives a shorter and worse life
>>587390803the only way fave can cast it is by rubbing their bigger, uncut penis on mine for a while until we both orgasmthe sexual magick energies or something yes
>>587390935Every reason is a genuine one and they don't even care who it is, if you dislike chapter 5 for any reason you're all part of the same group kek
>>587391112chapter 5 was not made with loveparts of it, maybe, but not the whole
>>587390935I am retarded and hate suselle and hate ch5 as a consequence of this.>>587390994chara is the biggest xenophilic little species-traitor there is.its like putting a jew in Gestapo Regalia.
>>587390935I can't even say I dislike Ch5 because the part I don't like is comparatively small, but both of the usual shitflinging camps are really annoying
>>587391159...said the most raped tobydrone alivejk it's ok to like it, but it's kinda anus
I like how if you actually try to have a longform conversation about Chapters 2-4 or especially Chapter 1, it’s genuinely fucking impossible because it’s coming from retards whose obsession with this game is performative.Typical puerile edgy shit in action.
>>587390404Goat night! :)
>>587391106be well my comrade
CHAPTER 1 SUCKSCHAPTER 2 SUCKSCHAPTER 3 SUCKSCHAPTER 4 SUCKSCHAPTER 5 SUCKSCHAPTER 6 WILL SUCKCHAPTER 7 WILL SUCKDELTARUNE SUCKSUNDERTALE SUCKSTOBY FOX SUCKSYOU SUCKYOU SUCK BALLSDELTARUNE FAG BALL SUCKER
>>587391112>>587391236Very ironic
>>587390935If the only people you agree with are dysgenic freaks who'd let their dads die alone in the hospital in favor of having /pol/ melties maybe the problem is with the opinion
>>587390404this nigga goes to bed at 6pm
>>587391362because they view each chapter as “content” to be consumable yummies and nothing more
>>587391159It's just the bottom of the barrel posters right now, their vitiriol is always very telly. Don't let them get to you
>CHAPTER 1 SUCKS>CHAPTER 2 SUCKS>CHAPTER 3 SUCKS>CHAPTER 4 SUCKS>CHAPTER 5 SUCKS>CHAPTER 6 WILL SUCK>CHAPTER 7 WILL SUCK>DELTARUNE SUCKS>UNDERTALE SUCKS>TOBY FOX SUCKS>YOU SUCK>YOU SUCK BALLS>DELTARUNE FAG BALL SUCKER
>>587391447The rhyme scheme could use some work
I do think Time Loop theory is possible, but I'm not completely convinced. With all of the ice imagery and Carol keeping her house "frozen in time" I think we might get a time stop scenario in the endgame but not necessarily a time loop.
>>587391682checkout my soundcloud at guywhohatessucking44
>>587391447>CHAPTER 1 SUCKScorrect>CHAPTER 2 SUCKSwrong>CHAPTER 3 SUCKSwrong>CHAPTER 4 SUCKScorrect>CHAPTER 5 SUCKScorrect>CHAPTER 6 WILL SUCKwrong>CHAPTER 7 WILL SUCKcorrect>DELTARUNE SUCKSwrong>UNDERTALE SUCKScorrect>TOBY FOX SUCKScorrect>YOU SUCKwrong>YOU SUCK BALLScorrect>DELTARUNE FAG BALL SUCKERcorrect
>>587391850>chapter 1 sucksplueyanon no...
>>587391850pluey's pluey
>>587391607Most of the people with the opinion that hitler is evil defend giving drugs to children and multilating them as well as killing children before they are even born, maybe that opinion is bad then. Said noelle
>>587391159i thought it was pretty great
>>587390935arguing on the internet has gotten way more exhausting and way less enjoyable than it used to bethe people on the opposing side of an argument are retarded, but more retarded than beforeand now the people on your side of an argument are retarded toothey agree with you but have the shallowest, dumbest reasons for doing soto participate in any argument is to thanklessly and pointlessly (more pointlessly than before) try to correct everyone, including your own sideit's all so tiring
>>587391929very moody but weak as fuck in restrospect, sorry
>twitterbrown replied to mefine, I’ll just shuffle over to /vrpg/
>>587391850god damn i love massive fat asses
>>587391982Fuck, wrong reply, sorry >>587391503
>>587392042also doesn't help that gigachad is in the lexicon of every retard now so it's even more pointless arguing because you bring forth an argument and it just gets gigaquoted by the opposition making them look like the winner by default
>>587392042it's all kids now. it's just kids. the new wave equivalent of 2016 ben shapiro feminist owned compilation. although no one was making nazi edits of undertale characters back then
>>587391362because they're all newfags. chapter 5 brought a gigantic wave of newfags. I hate chapter 5 but both the retarded sides are newfags. you have the haters "uhh durrr deltarune was always bad, muh slop and such" as seen above and the chapter 5 fags that will go "erhm actually chapter 1-2-3-4 are all bad unlike chapter 5 that's perfect in everything and you can really see toby put every inch of his soul and cum into making it and if you don't like it you will NOT like the rest of the game despite toby clearly stating that the last two chapter are very different!"
taking the good drawfags and moving to a beautiful beach house far away
>>587391850you can't say chapter 2 doesn't suck but then turn around and say chapter 4 sucks how does that happen pluey, chapter 2 sucks balls and spamton carried it on his back
>>587392270>the chapter 5 fags that will go "erhm actually chapter 1-2-3-4 are all bad unlike chapter 5 that's perfect in everythingCan I get an actual screencap of this happening, yes I know this is rhetorical
>>587392242Jeez, I wonder what changed>>587392270I played the game when it first launched back on 2018 and chapter 5 is dogshit, what can I do?
>>587391982common sense has died. you'd think people would assume gender identity starts at puberty....
>>587392242there have always been kidsthe kids now are worse than they used to be, and way more loud and numerousi swear they weren't this fucking stupid pre-covid
THREAD STATUS: WORSE
THREAD LEVEL: MIDNIGHT
>>587392381a spectacular carry is still a successful experience
>>587391271>its like putting a jew in Gestapo Regalia.Problem?
>>587392537Gender identity is a psyop, there's no such thing as gender. Search "John Money" on wikipedia. Said berdly
petahthe sans is here
Hey utg uhhh fuck you-Oh. That's... not good, actually.Get well soon utg.
>>587390251tasquefag and doomerturd loved it
i think you guys are dancing around the uncomfortable truth that statistically most of the current internet is 3rd-worlders pretending to be white americans and unironically believing meme magic is real and that’s why shit is fubar
>>587392792Clown Chara.
>>587392403I don't have screens but if you have been here for the past 5 months you should have seen it multiple times. You will have someone go "chapter 5 sucks, 4/2 was much better" and others will say "LOL chapter 4 was boring and all the darkners were lame" or "chapter 2? you mean the walking simulator chapter??" and then they will say "if you don't like chapter 5 why are you even here?" Nigga if you don't like the previous 4 why where you even here for 5? (answer: newfags that got into the game with chapter 5)
>>587392881>defending troonshit and faggotryslop>being racistI thought we were woke, guys. We need to be better than this. Don't be bigots, let them third worlders in
The angel isn't Gaster, the Player or Noelleit's Gaster's Machine, the one Sans' can't fix in Undertale.That's why the Angel is an "it". it's probably a mech similar to the Devil's Machine in earthbound/HH , so someone gets inside it and that someone could be Gaster himself or Noelle, or even the red soul
kris's penis
>>587392881the new anon uses twitter image files, twitter is filled with 3rd worlders...
>>587392339Wish we had a general where we could just create and relax, but alas.
>>587392764yup
>>587392945>It was just a trojan horse complaint whining about Chapter 2 & 4 wank specifically, nothing about Chapter 1 & 3Though personally I realized something was wrong with Chapter 2 when it became the Shartikinfox shill brigade chapter
>>587392819
>>587393183"New" and it's a guy that's been here for almost half a decade
>>587392945>If you like what I don't like and criticize what I like it's because you're two-faced and dishonestYaaaawn
fave says if you cheat in online video games or are canadian you can go fuck yourself
What does doe milk taste like?
>>587393302never noticed him before, maybe he stopped being shy or something huh
wht aren't you posting fat faves
Pяг
>ROYAL SCIENCES LLC seeks $6.6 sextillion valuation in highly anticipated IPO, reportedly aiming for Dec.25 debut.
>>587393589>25cm
>>587393589Holy fuck he's MASSIVE...
>>587393542Fiiiiine.
>>587393493I'll say this again, this place was much better before. Chapter 5 dug the grave for good
>>587392764that the kid with the botched circumcision they raised as a girl?
>>587393612>Asgore investing 5 billion gold into Royal Sciences stock before launching the CORE construction project
>>587393542why aren't you posting absolutely gargantuan massive earth shaking obese fave asses that leave craters in the earth?
>>587393736say whatever you like you twitter migrant
>>587393589ryag?kak dyela, tovarish?
>>587393736based underage chungus avatarfag wishing he was using normalfag social media instead
sometimes i get kind of sad because it feels like i can only ever have a conversation with someone here, even just a short one, when it’s about anything other than my fave
>>587393248whatever retard
>>587382216one more bunny alphys
What if Dess is freaking cute
>>587393943doing rather zajebis, thank you
>>587394152You grace us with your presence in these dark times, thank you artfa-, no... artFRIEND...
>>587393803He got a surgery and then later regretted it and lived with a lot of pain and mental illness before killing himself, which is what happens to every troon and will happen to ralsei if they do make him a tranny
Micheal...
>>587393914
>>587394152She's so perfect...Thank you for this gift
>>587382216oopsies ok no more nipslip>>587394152>>587394334I'm glad you enjoy, Anon
its gone...
>>587394165Chai tea ahhhhh statement
>>587394506>"please don't tell people how i live-">*slaps ass*
>>587393408
>>587394384I embrace AI because I want a hyperintelligent AI to destroy civilisation and put us in a dreamcore like reality where you can be what you want. it feels like a real pot shot at the demiurge's faggotryBut we can put Doomer in a world where millions of me rape him non-stop, right?
>>587394570the lizard was almost ever so slightly too yellow for this blue board
Didn’t read
>>587394165This smells like RalseiDess theory material
>>587394165fandom will regret its words and deeds
ho/ll/iday is where it's really at
Mewmew’s integral and composed butthole~
>>587394547I wish I was Undyne
>>587394535please enjoy lizared wife. treat her with care
>>587394584we dont speak zoomie here
>>587394826
>>587394547damn you can colour stuff in on whiteboard?
>>587394547ty for lizurr chub
>>587394165not a chance and if she is then she be ralsei or noelle uuguuified and ill have to put her down like an animal
https://x.com/Riemann_Rennie/status/2120102926924513650
>>587394384this post makes me sad
>>587394547thread saved
Ralsei fucking SCREAMING when you touch him in any way sexually
>>587394683What the fuck are you talking about?
let's argue about kris's pronouns said fave
>>587395203softly and tenderly because harsh screams are unpleasant and his body isn’t even capable of producing an unpleasant noise that’s how he was built
play adulttale
Chara realising she's not gonna make it as more and more of her pale lithe body is revealed to the world
belly
>>587395272this gives off the exact same that-doesn't-belong feeling as that spongebob gag of patrick star wearing fishnets
>>587395263horrible
what's the deal with spamton? how'd he become a puppet
>>587394547what does kobold milk taste like
>>587395438brie
>>587395391yeh
>>587395263 i dont want this for ralsei even though it would be cool if gaster is that evil
>ANT Tenna>GASTERReally makes you thwunk.
>>587395395Acid bath
Ralsei is jittery and angsty on the bed waiting for surgery
>>587393996actually do any truly passionate favefags even really talk anymore. maybe tennafags. they’re the last lucky ones and everyone else is cursed to further twitter illiteracy and social atomization
>>587395395he was always a puppet he just didn't know it yet
>>587395368fat fave frotting
>>587395395Toby shot him with his puppet ray so his design would be a cool thematic visual
>>587394547what is this black magic you are doing to get opacity in whiteboard? also perfect alphys. I wish I could get this as an anime figurine
>>587395663fave has not had content in a decade, the only thing left to say is the occasional catharic bitching that this braindead fanbase keeps mischaracterising him
>>587395584Is Gaster the name of an ant's ass? Does that mean Gaster was hiding inside Tenna's asshole this hole time?
>>587395392erotic. textually interesting imagine if he was engineered (either by himself or something else) to be as cute and cuddly as possible so he doesnt even have nails sharp enough to scratch you with ough >>587395526cmon…
>>587394920me 2>>587395061>>587395693I pulled the trigger and decided to try out the premium sub for a month, which among other things lets you use layers (up to 3) and when you hide them, it makes them monochrome w/ lowered the opacity. Its kinda neat. The stepped-shading look is from doing the paint bucket tool over itself a few times, which works even if they're all the same color. (I suppose I could've just used the low-opacity brushes they let you use w/ premium too now that I think of it)>black magicI slightly feel like I'm cheating, so I've been doing my best not to use the premium features too much>>587395065>>587395127we could all use more alphys in our life if you ask me >>587395438probably faintly of cumin or maybe chili powder(toriel's tastes like your bowl after cinnamon toast crunch)
>>587395610The operation is a success and he gets a celebratory cupcake after his wisdom teeth are removed
>>587395686yeyeye
>>587395880We can only hope.
>>587395584If chappy 3 had released as standalone I'm pretty sure Tenna could have become the new Woody for theoryfags given enough time because of the gaster thing alone
>>587395943>I pulled the trigger and decided to try out the premium sub for a monthlook at mistah moneypants over here. how does it feel to live in a solid gold mansion?>so I've been doing my best not to use the premium features too muchplease use them as much as you want no one will mind and its fun to experiment and see what you can cook up since everyone just uses default whiteboard
You find that one obscure person in the community who you find fascinating but is best left unknown?
pinks friend dialogue implies she was in the computer lab right? or at least was to know about spamton. so it could be alphys who bought her there?
>>587395853well i’m in the same boat including the bitching. but why does it have to stop people. i have no problem thinking about my fave forever and ever and trying to come up with new scenarios or ways to put my feelings into words or whatever else. i feel like the sky is the limit with even a little bit of creativity. do other people not feel the same way. maybe not. maybe i’m just insane. i guess i do repeat myself a lot. there is only so much to say about some things, and others can just start to feel different for the sake of having something different to say. but i guess that’s why i always want other people to talk to about fave, since at least for me talking about things or having someone else share their own ideas can be really really generative and kickstarts me in a way that can be hard sometimes all on my own
It's been 11 years but there's still very little art of sloppy Alphys with an open lab coat wearing nothing underneathIsn't that fucked up
>>587396193Yeah myself. I gatekeep myself to mainstream fandom and only engage with /utg/
>>587395238There's nothing left to argue, pal. Kris is a man, end of story
>>587396167the gaster thing is funny but he does have creator parallels/altering the "original" game, literally being a GAME show host. etc...
alphys knight butt art when
>>587396002ralsei is so fucking GROPABLE and GRABBABLE
>>587395663I crossed a line between fave posting + talking into avatarfagging for some. So when chatting I usually drop the fave posting. We had a cool discussion about Deltarune's inspirations like Yume Nikki and Omori having "jumps" in them. We wondered a bit about Deltarune having a similar sequence and kinda ended up agreeing Noelle will probably jump out of a window in a suicide attempt/suicidal delusion. It was a neat discussion remarking on the works inspiring DR and how DR might be influenced in these last couple chapters.
>>587396284I really like this one
>>587396284you can't expect undertale artists to make good art. or good undertale porn in general (not counting /utg/ drawfags, of course)
>>587396438like that one Dessknight design?
>>587395238anything is fine toby doesnt care and neither should we. but alas
>>587396447yup
>>587396438your mind... so big... I never considered this
>>587395930thats cool but what if he was engineered for eatin ice pops
>>587395272Play love maniac too
sacrificing the lives of ten people above the age off 80 in albania picked at random for a ralsei weird route mod published by toby fox under an alias
>>587396447he loves getting squeezed from behind
>>587395461>>587395943now you want me to get toriel and alphys repeatedly pregnant simply to remain access to their milk
>>587396845>Weirdsei Mod by Foby Tox
Nta and maybe im uncreative but I cant go off of no other new content and just talking to myself forever, but im very picky about being ooc or repeating myself too much. Thats sort of the problem of having... long term creative fave relationships as retarded as it sounds(and is) you have to find ways to keep it new and interesting if you intend to draw or write or whatever else imo
I won btw if you even care.
Deltarune A New Beginning Starring Elijah Wood, David Spade, and Gary Oldman
>>587396845is a ralsei weird route mod really worth killing 10 grandmas for? didnt undertale teach you to care for everyone? each of those grandmas had a name. Dorothy, Betty, Barbara, Shirley, Doris, Nancy, Brenda, Linda, Clara, Eleanor. It's not worth it, anon
Deltarune will release tomorrow. Change my mind
>>587397197one of those grandmas would have been the gerson to a susie, who will now instead shoot up a school
>>587396836engineered to eat ice pops cutely and politely
>>587397213He'll never release it randomly cause he has to localize it for the Japanese
>>587395930i like your twisted mind
>>587397093meant to reply to >>587396235
>>587397197>anon wants gerson DEAD
>>587397197I find it unlikely that the 10 Albanian grandmas had those first names
>>587397087yup and the code is so dogshit that people think it’s ai generated >>587397197none of those sound like albanian names you wont fool me
>>587397467>>587397525i thought it said Alabama not Albanian that's not even a real country
>>587397093yeah you have to spice up the relationship except it’s like you have to do the job of two people. and you have to do it without thanks or appreciation or cuddles or dinner dates. yeah i guess it is insane i don’t know it’s just my lot in life as long as i continue this. im just in the part of my cycle with it where i have to bitch to let off steam but you know i still love fave i don’t think ill ever truly get tired of doing this even if it becomes more and more dormant or infrequent.
Toby and Temmie are both latent shotacons
Toby and Temmie are latent shotguns
>>587396505naked ass... thank you for your chubby service
>>587397626Toby and Temmie were always the ones behind Kress.
Toby is a repressed cuck and Temmie is a repressed barafag
>>587397442thanks i also like to think he’s full of stuffing/darkness/weird puppet strings so you can pop his limbs off and then tenderly stitch them back on or take out his eyes and such
>>587397626source?
>>587382216https://files.catbox.moe/nr3o17.pngThat one schizo on /aco/ was right I really need to practice
its cocoa season
>>587397940YIKES
>>587397857
>>587397965lmfao
>>587397626>>587397726
>>587398135asriel looks dumb af here
>>587398054>Toby and Temmie are shotacons because I got a boner from Gigi D.G's concept art????
ralsei squirts whenever you squish his belly
>>587398197that's why dess is cheating on him with his younger brother
>>587397965Okay I think I can see where footfags come from. I too would want to be crushed to death by Kris
>insert side 7b7b will be a physical disc
>>587398676what is a disc?
Why are disk and disc two separate words
>>587398797Like a CD Bagel, but inedible
>>587398676while impossible, this would be really cool. it really sucks that you can't obfuscate deltarune code in any meaningful way, imagine if people were trying to get 7b jamming random discs in their pc
asriel is burried
Kris wants to be a boss monster but if they WERE a monster they would be a Tonberry
What if Fave could perceive events in less than an attosecond
>>5873986767B will be a cassette tape for 8 bit machines you find randomly in a dumpster
>>587396193>tumblr user with DID who crocheted a sweater for their kris alter. Their system includes hazbin hotel characters and sonic exe.>latina artist who ships kriselle and ralsusie. She’s a radfem so her blog is full with long rants about modern fandom culture and trans people.>guy who films himself dancing in dresses and had a mental breakdown over trans ralsei theory getting more credibility because he hates gender roles.>Kriselle shipper who is convinced that Noelle is the knight and kriselle will be canon and made an entire multi page google doc about her beliefs.>Multiple cases of artists who fixate on one specific character or group of characters so hard to the point where it’s hard to call them a utdr fan. Usually Asian.>Fart fetishist who consistently draws noelle getting sit on and farted on. Whether it’s her being turned into underwear or her being face deep into ralsei’s big sweaty ass. Drew a comic where noelle is transported to a superposition of being farted on forever by a fat dragon.
Alphys no we can't do it in the broom closet someone will catch us...
>>587399275Hey I'm the second to last one
>>587399175the worlds fastest cummer
>>587395963I really do love this lizard>>587396183Well thank you for the encouragement. I can't lie that it has been nice to have slightly more options when using the select / transform tool. I just feel like at a certain point, you might as well do magma if you're doing a bunch of extra stuff like that.>>587396984I truly wish this could be arranged. Perhaps even on the same night(s)It also makes me want to draw this in action, as well as the (swollen) aftermath.
Hometown should have a milkman
>>587399508
>>587399698>Anon working as a milkmon in hometown and repeatably getting stalked/sexually harassed by milklooker (who is actually a woman)
Physics vs Biology
>>587399275Ignorance is bliss. I'm happy to only know our local schizos.
>>587399685>I truly wish this could be arranged. Perhaps even on the same night(s)>It also makes me want to draw this in action, as well as the (swollen) aftermath.dew it. not just on the same night but also the same bed one right after the other
I don't mind most free whiteboard limitations but I only wish it had more colors...
How autistic are you? I like to sort all the different Undertale/Deltarune characters into different colors and species.
>>587400119I wish the 3 color options werent fuck ugly
*oh hey man, are midterms stressing you? don't worry bro we can study for em' together if you want
>>587400176I gotgud at drawing solely for fave
>>587399931>Alphys gets to have sex, in the same room as Toriel, with a human >Toriel gets to feel young again, and get the milk flowing again, and of course a long night of passionate love-makingThis is the wet dream of all wet dreams for Alphys, and pretty good for Toriel too. Too good an idea to pass up. I have some other stuff I need / want to work on first, but you best believe this is making the top of the to-do list>>587400119100% true
>>587400379This seems like something a Krisfag would say.
Did I get banned again? ffs, there was nothing lewd on that image
>>587395272Only when Frisk (female) is added
What if they added Vice City to Deltarune 4?
>>587400229now this is an asriel i can get behind even if i don’t think he’d be this broad
I think Kris would have an impregnation fetish.
THE IMPREGNABLE FAVE FORTRESS
>>587400947and abortion fetish
>>587399275>Multiple cases of artists who fixate on one specific character or group of characters so hardwoah that's me
I want big pecs...
Did that gigachad drawanon that drew shota kris harem leave?
>>587400379this is me even though im still not good but i wouldn’t be better than stick figure tier still if it weren’t for fave
Toby should add more characters like Frisk, Chara and Aqua
>>587401127impregnable fave-angle
men
it is 11 am and fave has already came 3 times today fave’s dick is going to hurt why did fave do this
uhhhhhhhwas i supposed to post about sex with something
>>587402440with penis?
>>587402354Because you have real bad impulse control.
>>587402498yeah that’s true
>>587402494no it was uhh a fave i thinkis that what they're called
>>587402609what is a fave? can you touch it? can you sex it? are you a fave?
>Berdlys dream every second hes in the coma
Post the RAREST forms of fave.
>>587402609no they're called feve's
>>587402585it's not too late to do a half-november
>>587382216gachaName: MaliusDescription: Behold! My master technique!
>>587402671my favorite line in undertale...
>>587402671>are you a fave?sex with me? that doesn't sound right>>587402713oh did i forget how it was spelled too
>>587402695i can do you one rarerhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chara_(river)or if you want two faves in onehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chara_Sands
krisumasu
Kurisu - KrisKurisumasu - ChristmasKirimasu - To cut
>>587400229sayce
Join Kliss, Larthay, and Suzy on the adventure of a lifetime in the Dark World.
you people made me waste my god damn time
>>587402941Chara Sands looks beautiful.
>>587403309UT version of the delta gang
its raining outside, the window is open, the kris pillow is by my side, its a comfy day
>>587403580*zooms in on my sissy wife and kisses the screen*
CONGLATURATION !!!YOU HAVE COMPLETED A GREAT GAME.AND PROOVED THE JUSTICE OF OUR CULTURE.NOW GO AND REST OUR HEROES !
Noelle calls Kris Kurisutina
>>587360075nice, I'm happy you were able to get prunsel's description working! the soul cursor is very cute
I hate this new generation of UT/DR "fans"
>>587403391yes. just like chara.
GOODNORNING YOU ESS AYI HAVE A FEELING IT WILL BE A WONDERFUL DAYWOTH A SMILE ON ITS FACEWAVING A SALUTE TO THE AMERICAN RACEOH ITS SWELL TO SAYGOOD MORNING YOU ESS AYY
>>587382216gachaName: RattickDescription: The rodent cousin of Rabbick and Ribbick.
>>587404103Cheese'd to meet you, Rattick.
does anyone here actually enjoy posting here
>>587404103cousins
Frogs/Toads = Beginnings and endings, simple truthsRats/Mice = Bravery and endurance im the face of hardshipsCats = Chaos and disorderDogs = Mischief and playfulness
>>587404506>* EITHER WAY, A MISCHIEF-MISCHIEF, A CHAOS-CHAOS...!
ralsei
What if Noelle was meant to be a rat early in development and that's why she has buck teeth and says "excheese me".
>>587404629is this why ralsei hated orange so fucking much
>>587399453Public sex is so hot i feel like Alphys would be really into it. Shes fine with susie and kris taking forever in the dark world because she thinks they are fucking
>>587404420Yes. The last 6 hours or so were not standard. Many non-regulars showed up from /v/ or twitter and made it miserable for a time, and then they go away for a week, two weeks, however long. Those times in between are usually quite nice. Things will be slow for awhile since threadshitters drove all the posters away with anything better to do and the threadshitters themselves have left. After a time the regulars will trickle back in.
>>587404506Cats are order, Dogs are chaosThat's why Cat is paired with Puppet
>>587404798>chads Catti, Berdly, and Kris not giving a single fuck
>>587404869Spamton and Pink are anything but order
>>587404794this is why the broom closet ending is her favorite
>>587382216gachaname: The 7 Flying Acesdescription: COPIES ARE MONOCHROME.BUT YOU COLORED EACH OF US IN WITH CARE.
>>587401503True!
wait. the gameboy graphics of MANCOUNTRY can be considered monochrome. which means that the man behind the tree has to be a goner, or copy of someone existing/existed. so the man being gaster is very likely
fuck off gachafag
Post poorly aged theories
>>587404794insane thing to put in the game toby
>>587401503So, Kris?
>>587404794this alphys face makes me so HORNY
Cat is the Chaos Chaos Freedom Big Shot animal that does what it wants and is ruled by its desires for better or for worseCat is paired with Puppet because desires can make a person extremely easy to manipulateKris is a Cat trying to act like a Dog (the animal that just does what it's told, makes no decisions of its own and is a good dog for it) because they think their Catlike behavior led to That Horrible Day, and ERAM tries to reawaken the Cat in them with its evil 8bit video game
>>587405435Old Toriel Firegraves theories were fun in the first few days of chapter 2. So poorly aged cause Toriel did nothing but be a plot object in chapter 3, a tragedy.
wish i had friends...
Remember when people thought Chapter 2 would have Kris going on a Genocide spree in Hometown
toriel (forma de 3d)asgore (forma el androgenica alopecia)
>>587405768my child i am firegravesing the tv
>>587406038these are cute cosplays, 3d toriel mask is fun idea and I like the medieval style dress and blouse toriel is wearing
>>587405018Spamton wants to be free but he never will be. He's a puppet, all of his misfortune and his rebellion were fated by the Angel. It's all part of the plan.Pink is violent and impulsive but what she wants in her fight is to assert control over her body, to resist her body's freedom. And even though she only shows it once, she's subject to the [[Strings of FATE]] just like Spamton.There's a reason she had that Shadow Crystal and encountered the master of cats.
all the fan ideas for chapter 2/3/4 (if any actually existed) would've sucked but most of the fan ideas for 5 would've been better than the real thing
>>587406248Man you're really obsessed todayJust let it go mate
>insert side 7bwhat is this demented word saladhow do you insert a sidea side of whatinsert where
>>587406408that's not what it said in-game
I think queenkaard might be my favorite deltarune ship
>>587406248true. 5b was straight flames however
>>587382216The entire previous whiteboard (8515):https://files.catbox.moe/dl6ryv.png
>>587406408Famicom Disk System
im gay
>>587406549oh yeah all the fan ideas for 5b would've been ass5b was short but effective, it does a lot with a little (unlike 5a)
7b this 7b thatCh 6 has to have some weird route shit in it
the stalkercord won
>>587406603So, new whiteboard time?
>>587406680me tooi'd hate to imagine the life i would've had if i were straighta short one, almost certainly
>>587407012theres already a new onehttps://r7.whiteboardfox.com/77458116-3525-6263
>>587406680me too
>>587407012we already have a new one >>587382520
>>587406907>Ch 6 has to have some weird route shit in itToby is too lazy to do it
>>587406952Time acts as a filter, cool people become busy or lose interest whereas the worst people stick around. Wit ha few exceptions (jackboxers and whiteboard artists and gachanon, the only saving graces /utg/ has left)
>>587406907Probably just some small dialogue differences for aborted route and that’s it.Pretty sure the whole point is that weird route skips straight to 7.
>>587406907ch5 has almost no changes if you abort at the laketoby will find a way to make ch6 the same, even if it ends up making no sense
>>587405435Jack isn't even the main boss in Chapter 4 lol.
>>587382216gachaname: Spam.jpegdescription: SPAMTON G. SPAMTON (Now only 1 KB!)
>>587406907People are in despair here, but I fully believe we'll get something weird route adjacent in Chapter 6. The lack of abort jingle in failed 5b is too on the nose for someone as meticulous with sound design as Toby. 3 Save Files. Third Route truther...
>>587406748yeah 5a shines in gameplay and gameplay alone and even the gameplay is brought down by how bland everything else is. that said i can’t wait to see how platforming and bullet patterns are incorporated into future chapters. hopefully they’re not like braindead easy
There are people who still unironically think the Twisted Sword will do anything.
>>587407660Dess looks like her head is sliding back and forth and hyperspeed lmaooo
>>587405435best i can do is a chapter 5 bingo
>>587390935This
>>587407410i’m guessing that something will happen in 6 that forces noelle to think more weird route-y. she sees the dark world as a game and she likes breaking games, if her dad is sick or dying and got kidnapped by the knight or some shit then yeah i think aborted wr noelle could sync up with regular noelle nicely, if she goes into “fuck this guys we need to advance really fast NO bullshitting etc etc”
>>587382216for gacha"Proverbs 5:19"
I've really lost patience with Weirdfags, I cannot stand them anymoreWait... Patience...
>>587407809when was this posted? certain squares are pretty accurate
>>587407748There are people who think.
>>587407943i made it a little while before chapter 5 dropped i think.
>>587407748It will be funny as fuck if the twisted sword just gives you +1 Guts and that is all.
>>587404794You know this just reminds me that Susie being a bully outcast is such a non-issue for her character
>>587408097chapter 4 exists but i sorta get what you mean
>>587408097other than the way she understands herself and her role as a person and everything about her character development, sure i guess
>>587407660Why is Carol a basedjak
>>587408097being an outcast who's percieved as scary is fairly important to her character, but i agree being a bully specificially hasn't really mattered for quite a while
>>587408217not that guy but it’s like virtually nobody but carol and a few npcs is scared of susie. every character that matters is all over her and i think that’s fair because sooz is cool and noble
>>587408050The Twisted Sword just makes Kris scream.Susie and Ralsei are obviously kinda freaked out about it but nothing else in the story actually changes.And the scream is just a looping audio file, it doesn't turn off at all, it's stuck on once you craft it.
>>587408371I mean i wish her bully arc sort of lasted longer than the first ten minutes of chapter one and she struggled with being mean or bullylike like, at all as a personal flaw but its ok. I think at this point i just wanted susie to be a slightly different character than what she is. The facade was always paper thin
>>587408471A small price to pay for canon Kris voice
Susie is a badly written character as a biproduct of Toby Fox taking so long to develop DR and barely planning anything in advance.After CH5, there is next to no appeal left with her, considering that it's being led up to her sidelining you entirely in favor of dyke deer.
>>587394506
>>587396103>THIS NEXT PUNCH>WILL BE>VERY, VERY>PAINFUL
>>587408860shut upsex with purple
>>587390935Chapter 5 is bad because uhhBecause the flowers are g--I mean it's bad because Susell--I mean it's bad because I hate Japa--I mean it's bad because I hate anim--I mean it's bad because Gast--I mean it's bad because uhh there's no... festival minigames...?
>>587409079You could entirely skip over ch5 and we would miss out on absolutely nothing.
>susie bad because i was cuckedthe writing was on the wall 5 years ago in chapter 2, and somehow people didn't see this coming
>>587409079
chapter 5 would be better if kris did more cool little dances y'know
>>587408712yeah i agree. i was hoping she’d be way meaner than she turned out, or at least she’d retain her edge
>>587409201Nope those were all actual real things people were saying sorry
femboy twink with milfy grandpa qualities
>>587409140Chapter 2 as well but it wasn't a problem then. What changed? Obviously you're not counting Weird Route
>>587409354ralsei is the only character this could ever apply to
/utg/ jumping to defend ch5 with their dying breath is a textbook case of performative virtue signalling
>>587409445Stop using words you don't understand the meaning of it doesn't make you look smart
>>587409432What the actual fuck are you talking about, newfag?CH2 was easily the best chapter, narratively and gameplaywise.
Chapter 2’s main route is so fucking unserious even compared to Chapter 1, I’d rather just skip over to Chapter 3 on replays
>>587409445As someone who doesn’t agree with the writing in 5, I wouldn’t call it virtue signaling. It’s closer to sunk cost fallacy or more often just the straight up refusal to come to terms with Toby not being the best writer and there is now a notable blemish on their favorite game series. It really boils down to toxic positivity
I think people expecting Asriel or Toriel relevance are making a bad betDeltarune writes off Asriel almost immediately and we have no good reason to think this will change, his position in the story makes sense and he was already the most important character in Undertale. It's hard to argue he's suspiciously absent when we've heard even less about Papyrus.Deltarune has humanized Toriel by showing her flaws more than Undertale did, but she's still very far from being presented as "morally gray" or outright sinister even as much as Asgore. The idea that she was involved in what happened to Dess or somehow covered it up, contributing to the destruction of both of their families, is just not compatible with the story that we're being told.It's possible that Toriel has the Delta Rune code, which might explain why The Knight was apparently targeting her. But the other code-holders are the mayor and the (former) chief of police, so it wouldn't really make sense for Toriel to have one since she's not a particularly important person. And having a three-part code split three ways is implicitly a way to prevent any one person from having access, so it doesn't make sense to have given two codes to one married couple. If Toriel did have the Delta Rune code, all that would really mean is that Kris had to have stolen it from her to get into the Shelter, which they must have already done with Asgore's code, so I'm not sure what the significance would be.
>>587409724I like Chapter 2 but we learn almost nothing. We learn December's name and the Roaring exists at the very end. That's about it. Wasn't that your argument? That you could skip over it and not miss anything about the plot?
>>587409439and that’s why he’s so precious
>>587409445>If I just use the right shibboleths everyone will agree with me
>>587409304I can say people only liked chapter 5 because Flowery cured their depression and it would be true because someone did say that, but obviously more people like it for other, less personal reasons.
I get what those anons meant by twitter immigrants, there’s like a very particular kind of arguing style they have that’s so not-/utg/ because it’s exactly like that pancakes and waffles tweet logic
Good night, anons. Have a lovely day!
>>587409724>CH2 was easily the best chapter, narrativelylol
>>587409857I love the egotism and unwillingness to comprehend someone might have different tastes than you because you think that the WORLD is REVOLVING around you.
>>587410160Wrong reply?
Me, lil Kris, and some whore doe hugging a stuffed heart
>>587406603Secretly, I’m still going to finish those Ralsei sketches off to the side
i liked chapter 5 because the game cant last forever and i'm happy i got one more fun adventure and character interactions out of the original premise before shit starts disintegrating hardcoreflowery is annoying though
KingQueenGerson: The Failed Blorbos
>>587410215No but it could apply to a lot of you.>Admit Toby sucks as a writer! Admit it or you have sunk cost!But I disagree.
>>587410297too bad parent and fattoo womantoo reptilian
>>587410297The forbidden ship...
Those BULLIES are just PRETENDING to like it to TRICK ME!
>>587410387I didn’t say it’s impossible for someone to like chapter 5, meltiekun. Of course there are going to be people like you with terminally bad taste
>>587410297You know it’s actually kind of weird how the mere idea of Rudy being the Knight is able to propel Rudy’s popularity with theoretical hype moments and aura alone, but Gerson ACTUALLY has that in-game but nobody cares anymore
Reminder that most of /utg/ are twitter secondaries.
>>587410516>MeltiekunAre you gonna draw me as a 'jak next lol? I've been pretty calm
>>587409857Ermm truke pluke?!?!?!?!?
>>587410521The fan fic writing is always more fun than the actual story for a lot of people
>>587410297queens my blorbo and kings her blorbo
>More imageless phonetard assclowns fucking pleading to the heavens that you hate the game now [they’ve spent multiple years in a general for a game they can’t have any serious conversation about]
>2014-2018: Everyone I don't like is from Tumblr>2019-Present: Everyone I don't like is from TwitterToby please save us from this hell
>>587408712as much as i depict carol being a wholesome chungus i really don’t want her character to also end up like this please toby the nuance my fucking dichotomy…
I like every chapter because every chapter is goodpost faves from the videogame
It turns out many people in the thread dedicated to a piece of media 5 months after a new release like the latest installment. How strange!
Is there anything in Deltarune that's truly non-diegetic
>>587410934>cannot have less than positive banter about the game>must be phone poster tourists grumble…
>>587411015
>>587411015First good post of today
You know, Deltarune getting softbanned from /v/ entirely is proof that toxic negativity is a literal thing enforced on the site
>>587410884cute art he looks very hamstery
digital circus ending was the worst thing to happen to deltarune’s fandom
>>587411202Deltarune fans are flat annoying, Even worse than 2016 undertale fans
>>587411341>>587411331Trukes
>>587411054>>587411162>>587411169Green hivemind?
Will you be able to get excited for Megalovania in DeltaruneWould you be able to take a scene containing the words "bad time" seriously
>>587410962i hope carol gets snowgraved or something, it would be cool for noelle's development
All this rabid defence in favor of chapter 5 and I've yet to see a single argument in favor of why it's so "good".
>>587411520that’s called a kangaroo court btw
>>587411015Cute lil Barney the dinosaur. Would plot against her and ultimately stab her in the back like a good best friend.
>>587411503she’s going to have a brief character arc of loredumping about dess and accepting suselle and then get kidnapped by the night or removed from the plot in some way
>>587411520I don't really want to get involved but I've yet to see someone ever be "convinced" something is good. If your mind is set on hating something it's probably not going to be changed, so that's probably whyI think all the arguments about whether something is good or bad here are pretty pointless
>>587410962For what it's worth, I think Susie went soft because she was originally a goofier character according to the concept art, plus they might've had consistency issues developing her over the course of several chapters. Any development Carol gets will take up one, two chapters at most and the bottled water thing is part of that same old concept art.
>>587408217The issue is that Susie doesn't come off as a real bully who did bad things and enjoyed hurting people, she comes off as someone who just pushed people away because she sucked at socializing, but once the facade is out Susie is a perfectly fine person who doesn't have issues with anyone who tries to approach her without hostility, which doesn't really make sense, there's nothing about Susie that makes her a person who would've had trouble making friends, Noelle simps for her just for existing, Kris is madly simping for her despite the bullying, Berdly gets humbled and finds her attractive now, everyone talks about how virtuous Susie is, nothing Susie ever does after Chapter 1 has a modicum of bully attitudeToby should've written Susie as an awkward slightly autistic and obnoxious girl who became an outcast because people didn't like dealing with her, not a bully, her character does not make sense as a bully because she does not think like one
>>587411630>Liking chapter 5 infringes on my rightsGet a grip man
Explain why I should like any chapter besides memes and porn
>>587411520Because I can take flowery and make him a cuntboy to play with for my own amusement
>>587411520
>>587411884Music good.
>>587412031Don't speak to the neighborhood kid diddler
>>587411735the wholesome speedrun will be record time
>>587411484I don't know, the Deltarune community has been full of newbies and LARPers since Chapter 3, so I doubt they know how exciting it is to listen to Megalovania.
Chapter 5 writing bad.But, flowery, music, gameplay and graphics good.Make 5 mid.
>Virtue signaling rabid defense sunk cost fallacy kangaroo court to their dying breathWhy does hating chapter 5 require these histrionics
>>587412151Yes sir first person to reply sir. Your word is my law.
>>587412316>>587412291Stick your Gasterslop up your ass
(some) people only hate Chapter 5 because of the festival. The rest is good.
>>587412151But you definitely enjoy looking at the goodies with him
im hungry
>>587412202But what about yooooouuuuuThis is the only image of an Underrune character pointing at the screen I have
>>587412440Kill yourself
>>587412316>kangaroo courtWe are not in Australia, mate.
>>587412316I don’t understand why you Crusader-lites are so hooked to this game when it clearly gives you so much grief
>>587412485I would be thrilled
If you hate chappy 5 Gaster will appear in your sleep paralysis Boiled One style
why did i save this?https://litter.catbox.moe/b6n3wuljagumdfj2.mp4
>>587411520why didnt you read my post? :(>>587410259
>>587412687Mmmmmmm... Boiled Gaster...
Sometimes I feel like i actually need to draw pictures to communicate with the actual low-functioning autistics here because they very clearly cannot string together proper words nor understand them
fave woke up early from their slumber
>>587412842sounds like you need some pictures too
>>587412492Youth liberation forever!
>>587412842Please do
Flowery's annoying and confusing, the rest of the flowers are great idea, mid execution, the tone does not follow up on Chapter 4 at all and the entire game pretends that chapter never happened, Susie is so deep in denial it's actively infuriating and makes her look incredibly stupid and act horrendously out of character, which would be bad enough on its own but becomes worse in a chapter that is so vehemently against progressing the plot or revealing anything about "That Day"TM that it feels like its disabling the characters from doing anything, Ralsei's use of fireshock is forgettable and boring and his development is the same even though this is meant to be his chapter, Pink is an eh conclusion to the shadow crystal bosses and finding her door ruins the pacing of the final part of the chapter.I won't convince you, you won't convince me, but you can use my points instead of a strawman every time you get mad that someone's using jingling keys to make fun of you.
it wasn’t even that long ago where chapter 3 & 4 kept getting dunked on because chapter 2 was the golden child back then
>>587412908GO BACK TO BED ITS PAST MIDNIGHT
i still want new theories.
>>587411832You think Susie is nice to everyone because she's nice to her friends and that's mostly who she's been interacting with since Chapter 1She's hardly faced any real hostility since then, she's let her guard down and hasn't had to bite back at people like she did beforeShe's entirely capable of reverting to her "bully" persona, like we see when she intimidates Monster Kid and Snowy at the Shelter in Chapter 2 and with her hostile interactions with Catti in 4 and 5, but she doesn't LIKE being like that, it's her defense mechanism against people who treat her badly up, which has been everyone in her life until very recently.
>>587413070>jingling keysOHHH it's you again okay now it all makes sense. I keep thinking it's other people because I don't want to seem like a schizo, but nopeIt's always you
>>587413164>non canon timezone>>587413175>non canon theoryzone
jingling kocks
Chapter 5 is intentionally made to be this themes heavy dive into the meaning of Deltarune itself that players will only understand when it's over, but that is a n annoying decision that pisses me off because of the pacing-destroying years between chapters
When Ralsei doms, Kris is ouppyWhen Kris doms, Ralsei is babby
>>587413164>looks at clockokay, if its past midnight where you are, you are officially not human.sorry, fucko.you're a darkner.
>>587413083Only chapter 3 was disliked
>>587413250you're fated lovers with this guy. i'm sorry
>>587413309That was the name of Dess' first punk band
>>587413372…until I remembered the hockey stick scene
>>587413175Okay, here's a theory: what if the Deltarune world isn't a real world? I mean, what if both the Light World and Dark World are fictional, God Gaster is also fictional, and everything is just a video game created by some white dude in his garage?
>>587413349White people be like yeah, im going to dress a obesse cat up in nazi attire and jerk off to it.
>>587413247I think she does like being a bully against people who "deserve it" or who she doesn't care about, it's just that she cares about Kris and Noelle and the Darkners at largeHer scaring the little bunny kid at the Festival but feeling really bad about making Yellow commit suicide is important characterization and such
>>587413517Brown ahh attitude
>>587413517Don't let that sperg claim Catty.
Roaring KnightSilent KnightWho is the Mid Knight?
>>587413250I literally said you can use my arguments when THE OTHER GUY is annoying you, man. I don't even know what you mean by who he "always" is. I don't do that 5ag/jinglingkeys shit you're always complaining about because it's stupid and serves no purpose. I'd be more interested in actually discussing why we like/dislike the chapters than making fun of you to immediately stop any genuine conversation from occurring.
>>587413250jingly keys is just a term commonly used to insult media you retard. it’s like slop
>>587413492That's chapter 4
>>587413070>the entire game pretends that chapter never happened, Susie is so deep in denialOxymoronConfirmed for requiring big red text explaining what the characters are thinking and how you're supposed to feel about it at every scene
>>587413492cope, the icehockey scene in chappy4 was KINOdid you not see how hard susie tackled kris across the ice???
>>587413653Is that Frisk Undertale?
>>587413070Stop giving real criticisms, everyone who thinks 5 isn’t great is /v/ /xitter/ /sharty/ scum
>>587413604Germs will call anything brown if they disagree with them
>>587413606What if i claimed catti instead?
Holy fuck stop arguing like your favela people
Sorry to RAMB in to.>laughs in outlet
>>587413609It's himChapter 5 having Final Fantasy 5's (5 and 5, important) sealed weapons confirms it
>>587413613>GenuineSee I thought so but then tou used the phrase "make fun of you", as if keyjingler is somehow owning us with his village idiot routine. If you want my real opinion I agree that we won't convince each other but I at least appreciate you listing your actual greviances. But no, it wasn't a strawman, they were all legitimate things people were complaining about when Chapter 5 came out. I was literally there. Don't do revisionist history.
>>587413313>Chapter 5 is intentionally made to be this themes heavy dive into the meaning of Deltarune itself that players will only understand when it's over,It's really not that heavy or hard to understand, Flowery and Toby himself spelled it out in a sentence or two. And Chapter 5 is at least as much about the characters maybe more than any other chapter so far but people don't want to hear that because it would require them to update their prior perception of the characters.At any rate we're on pace for four Deltarune chapters in 3 years. We knew nothing about Tenna and The Knight 18 months ago. The WAIT is almost over, it's moving quickly now. It's not so bad to stop and look around one more time before the end.
>>587413850Germs be like hmmm im going to ornate the obese cat with jew nigger cattle slave clothing
>>587413743Ah, much better.
Why's it feel like every poster right now is from the bunkercord
>>587413967will do.
fave is stiff from sleeping on the floor for weeks
>>587414008leaf me alone
>>587413939>Chapter 5 is about the charactersOk but I dont like the characterization development or writing of any of the characters in chapter 5 at all.
>>587413939>"You see, you think it's bad but it was intentionally made to be bad you media illiterate chuddie."Wonder when they're intentionally making something good
Flowery isn't so much a mentor as much as he's an older brother figure who doesn't know everything but knows more than his younger siblings and wants them to improve without getting overly sentimental about it because he wants to appear cool.
>>587414058It’s probably because of the incredibly snotty, underage-feeling attempts at “witty” retorts that just come across like they’re genuinely illiterate
It's like talking to ai bots man it's hopeless.
>>587413247MK and Snowy were calling Kris a weenie so Susie scaring them is an act of friendship. Catti was being a bitch with Susie and all she did was moreso taunt Catti, her reaction is also meant to be seen in the wrong since Noelle didn't care either. Susie's later "bullying" acts are vindicated by the story. The only moment the story ever challenged Susie's behavior was Flowery, and it was more about her selfishness.
>>587414061The slave doesn't even deny hes a jew slave. Tell me is your right ear pierced like your slave emperor ?
>>587414225My schizotheory is that they're all from SEA
>>587413550The most instructive part has been her seeing Ralsei condescend to Orange and clearly recognizing her own behavior and being put off by it, but not confronting him about it.Susie is the most simple and straightforward out of the main characters, but that also means when she doesn't come right out and say something people tend to overlook it
>phonefag trumpfaglibertarian berdfag? that you?
>You disagreed with me, you must be le ai o algoSoulless behavior
>>587413743>>587414008why not animate it?
hmm yeah it's time to go for nowget well soon /utigee/ hope we get blessed with a newsletter soon
>>587413923I meant he makes fun of you like neutrally, if I make fun of you for having a spelling mistake that doesn't mean I'm le epically owning you so hard the rest of your argument ceases to exist. Believe me, I do not like that guy either to give him that credit.
>>587414113Ok>>587414151I made this for you*pisses in your face*
>>587414385it's not looping properly GAAHthank you for trying regardless
Not a single good argument in defense of chapter 5 btw
>>587414365he sounds like he is a little besides himself.
>>587414383Just thinking about Catti, does that count?
Yeah I quit too, there’s two other generals for me to pick from anyway
>>587413939Understand is a less proper word, let's put it as emotionally resonate with the themesOf which I struggle with because I am tired of the game trying its absolute hardest to delay plot developments because it wants me to enjoy the themes instead
>>587414497No argument. Typically poon.
>>587414343I don't know if it's just a cultural thing I'm not aware of, but I genuinely found myself recently realizing that the thing that makes SEA more distinct than Brazilians and Indians is the really bizarre schizoid behavior they all have where they just don't actually "interact" with people
>>587414654>>587414654>>587414654Hop on
>>587411520Platforming single-handedly stopped this chapter from being bad no matter what.But nothing anyone says will convince you anyway, so nobody cares to try.
What if Susie went to China to study kung fu at the temples and then came back to Hometown and kicked the Knight's ass? Why didn't she think to do that?
>>587414545it is not supposed to loop.i specifically set it to 0,5sec with only one loop, meaning it cycles to the last image of he loop and stays there upon completion.did you expect me to do a ...5 sec repetition?i did that on purpose.
>>587413923You are the single most sensitive poster in this general holy shit
>>587414265Susie calls Catti a "freak" (her go-to insult toward Kris) after she runs off crying. You're not supposed to be rooting for Susie in that moment or think she handled that well.
>>587413748Yes!
>>587414734The chapter was so bad even the moment with the shift from the normal to the platforming view (which was really cool) didn't do it for me
>>587414765a sensitive 5ag…? must be a day that ends in y
>>587414937self own I'm afraid
>>587414791Susie was accompanied by two other people in that scene which none of them had anything to say about her behavior, so I won't think the story is trying to tell me what she did was bad
>>587414905nothing in 5a made me break my neutral expression. i almost frowned a few times but otherwise it was just me sighing and trying to get though it as fast as possible, it was so bad.
>>587415036The other two people are Noelle who is smitten with Susie at the expense of her other relationships and Kris who is evil
>>587414735the knight is an anime fag it wouldnt work
>>587415198You use your other characters to bounce off each other and express the narrative you're trying to tell, next time don't write a cast where three main characters exist to simp for one main character
>>587415537>They didn't act virtuously so it's bad writing
>>587396235Not that person, but I do all those things! Or rather, I feel the same way about having no problem generating ideas, placing fave in new scenarios and settings, analyzing the character from different angles, etc. So, you're not alone!But I don't visit here as often and prefer to stay quiet when I do, so, yeah, sorry.
>>587415687characters being rewarded by their bad behavior isn't a good way of expressing they are wrong
>>587415537I think you helped me figure out why I disliked Susie and Ralsei so much in Ch5. In the other chapters they bounce off of each other really well, but in 5 he's become a yesman who has no problem with Susie say, convincing Yellow he's the criminal, and all the conflict becomes dependent on Flowery and the others. I get that they're depressed because of the final prophecy and stuff but it really shits on their former dynamic.
>>587415839https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hrys-1yBIe8
>>587416075Deltarune is a silly critters pixel game about friendship, not a mafia show, if your story about friendship is full of people who are terrible friends and don't fix their behaviors what's the point
>>587415942i hated it because any other chapter susie would join ralsei in bantering with the flowers but instead it’s h-hey ralsei.. b-be nice… btw noelle makes me so wet hahahaha noelle noelle noelle noelle hahahahahahahahahahahah
>>587416509>They didn't have all their character development at the start of the second act so it's not just bad but morally abhorrent writing
>>587416895Ok Delta "literally everything important will be delivered in the end which is why nothing will be addressed yet, trust the dog bro" Rune
>>587410136You forgot the Knight motifs with the door, cliffs, the chase, & black knife
