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Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

/sthg/ #9725 - Heartbreak Edition

==NEWS==
>Discord server launched 5 October 2026
discord.gg/SonicOfficial
>SONIC PICO PARK on 12 November 2026
https://picoparkgame.com/spp/
>Sonic the Hedgehog: Memories and Beyond on 12 November 2026
https://youtu.be/gg33XSAtdZM
>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversary
https://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary
>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 on 19 March 2027
https://x.com/SonicMovie
>Netflix animated series for preschoolers with attitude in production
https://variety.com/2026/film/news/crazy-taxi-movie-netflix-sega-sonic-stranger-than-heaven-1236861148/

==COMICS==
Sonic and the Blade of Courage #18 - November 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #92 - 9 December 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #5 - 16 December 2026

==OTHER==
>Links
https://rentry.org/sthglinks
>SAGE
https://sagexpo.org/
>SHC
https://shc.zone/
>#10000 Project
https://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru

Previous Zone: >>587345265
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Fails
Cuckles
Cuckaze
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>>587420337
What if Squidface is Fiona?
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>BLUE SHOES??
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Comic designs (both IDW and Archie) give off a furry vibe the game characters don't.
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>>587421096
>Bounce
>Plap!
>Crack
This is brutal but it'd be more effective without the goofy sound effects.
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>>587421519
in what way?
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Did Blazefags hate Amy before?
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>>587420528
I always read him as a Jim Cummings type.
Less Robotnik, more Pete-ish
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I won't be afraid,
I'll break your heart!
We won't be afraid,
We won't be apart!
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>>587421519
Look at how ABT draws Cheetah in Metal Legion
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Cucknic
Cuckdow
Cuckver

The trifecta
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>>587421897
Sonic bangs this
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>>587421978
Hey, en espagñol now!!
¡No tendré miedo,
te romperé el corazón!
¡No tendremos miedo,
no nos separaremos!
..The lyrics need work, Mins.
Not miel enough!
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>>587421702
They used to beef with amy more than they did with silver around 00s and 2010s.
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>>587422241
>Sonic bangs--ACK!!!
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>>587422549
Seething bestie
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>>587414943
Cuckmods
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Rank the japanese writers among themselves
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cnc
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>>587423195
>exeslop
Ew but cnc yeah
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>>587421671
idk but they seem closer to the typical furry art than typical sonic characters
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I got 350 hours on jazz jackrabbit 2
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>>587421668
I don't make the rules, but you can't turn off the cartoon sound effects when you're having sex with Honey.
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>>587423885
Shadow is christian, Sonic is jewish and Silver is...nothing?
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Post random gripes that you don't see talked about often. I'll start:
Not a fan of how many IDW regulars use a similar color pallet. Too many yellows/oranges, browns and grays.
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Douge
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>>587423334
Sonic in general is slop
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>>587421519
Rouge the Bat is a foundational furry waifu and her being the third female character designed for the games disproves your point.
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>>587421342
Fiona has finally returned to the void where she belongs.
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>>587424185
I hate that the comics keep inventing character traits to push the plot. Why does IDW Sonic need to learn team work?
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>>587423885
Why is Sonic a fucking Jew
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>>587424390
He works for hollywood now. do the math
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>>587424185
Part of me feels like this is ST/Sega's doing. A lot of the beta designs have crazier colors.

>random gripes
I don't like when they make Metal Sonic roll or Spin Dash, because I feel like it misses the point of his character being a bootleg Sonic that can only emulate Sonic's abilities "incorrectly".
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Why are the movies so praised by this fandom? They are really not good. They get worse each time. Easter eggs and references don't make a good film.
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>>587424743
The movies are a step in the right direction
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>>587424839
"Step in the right direction" is the go-to phrase fans use when they don't want to admit a Sonic game is mediocre
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>>587421978
Does Honey feel bonita?
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The models in Dream Team are good
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>>587424743
good animation
emotional moments the games are unable to recreaate since unleashed
nice character interaction lost in time since 06
no shit gameplay in the way
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>>587423592
You can tell a foid made this
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Sonic becomes less relevant to IDW the more the comic goes on. He's starting to feel more like a guest star.
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>>587424030
some black poeple holidaynamed kwanzaa
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>>587425528
Sonic isn't built for a main cast. Nobody wants to hear it. Sonic returning to the same gang of people over and over breaks his character. Tails and Amy should have been vaulted after SA2.
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>>587424743
Even if the tone is off and the quality isn't great, the movies are Dark Age adjacent in subject matter and aesthetics. Since large portions of the Sonic fandom are currently nostalgic for that era, and the movies scratch the itch.
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>>587425528
evan needs every page for silver and the ocs so there's no room for sonic
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>>587425528
3 chapters without him and you are already feeling insecure, pathetic
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https://files.catbox.moe/1e6p2q.jpeg
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IDW Sonic is annoying and I'm happy whenever he's gone. I feel the same way about Archienic.
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>>587422340
(We never DID see eye-to-eye whenever she translated my lyrics...)
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>>587425376
They looked way better than the ones in Frontiers. Sonic Team needs to port that game to PC and consoles before the Apple Arcade license expires
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Silver has appeared more in IDW than half the cast.
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But when I want to talk about how Blade of Courage disrespects Tails everyone gets mad.
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>>587424279
Furry isn't just about sexualization, it's also about style and purpose.
Rouge still adheres to flatter faces and more abstract design over animalistic or overdetailed designs, and while she's definitely sexualized, it serves some story themes of the ''sexy spy'' trope rather than it being solely for the audience
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you know, out of all zombie rules, onyl showed us a modified bite rule
>headshot rule
not really present, amy just vaporized rough's torso and he didn't die
>mysterious origins
nothing like that
>zombies are mindless
not really, since they can be controlled by Eggman
THEY ARE NOT EVEN FAST, WHAT WERE THEY DOING
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>>587426375
Because it doesn't disrespect Tails.
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>>587424185
Some of the level design in Sonic 1 feels weirdly hostile. Like they couldn't get longer acts so someone just said "fuck it" and dropped down stage hazards and the arbitrary bottleneck to artificially inflate the difficulty (I'm looking at you, Spring Yard.)

>>587424743
They're great at printing money and that's the only good thing I have to say about them.
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>>587423607
JJanon, if Jazz's original creator made a spiritual sequel to Jazz (because Epic won't let him have Jazz back), would you play it for as many hours?
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>Gayfags rape other Sonicfags
>zionists and midly conservative people are perfectly normal
>
>still blame Pollock and Strassman
???
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBGf5mnr_gw
Cringe Alert
Cringe Alert
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>>587426285
Not true
>Amy, Rouge and Tails
All more screen time
>IDW OCs
All more screen time
He only appears more than Shadow, who everyone hates to write, Knuckles because he is bussy with Angel island and the Chaotix
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>>587426657
>Wabbit
If it's as fun
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>>587426770
I'm glad Rouge inspired her to be more confident, I just hope she gets her woke virus cured one day
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>>587426419
>flatter faces and more abstract design over animalistic or overdetailed designs

So like most female furry characters, especially from that era. What makes Rouge the Bat different from Callie or Lola Bunny. Heck, I would say Rouge is more anthro because she doesn't have hair like those two.
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>>587426770
i love fat tits but this is more than enough
she's just obese
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>>587427223
krack and duo
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>>587426770
anyway, this is who you're posting
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>>587427360
penis swordfight, loser gets fucked by the winner
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>>587426770
I think one thing is that they made her way more flirty in 2010s for no reason despite flattening her.
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>>587421096
That "COMICS" section is going to look pretty barren once the fifth and final in the Godzilla series releases...
How do you anons feel about expanding the scope as "COMICS/BOOKS"?
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Rouge was flirting so pathetically in Chaotix Casefiles that people thought it was Infinite being a bad actor
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>>587427528
nah
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJn6XvMaoFM
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>>587421096
Zooey should wear less!
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I’m tired, Hitler.
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>>587427860
now wait one gosh darn minute here
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>>587427505
>>587427645
This is what i am getting at, the titty monster rouge barely flirted in 00s, and when she did it was either her fucking around or doing it for pragmatic/goal oriented means. now we she's doing it without any kind of story utility
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>>587426702
People like the one in picrel aren't Sonic fans. They're just emotionally stunted fujos and ultraliberals who use fictional characters from a franchise targeted primarily towards children as a vessel for their ideology
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>>587428201
people took her jokes from Sonic X and overplayed it. Rouge BARELY flirted before the 2010s but people act like it's a staple of her character. It's the same thing with Sonic telling dumb jokes.
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sonic amy and shadow deserve more
silver and blaze deserve less
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>>587427528
I'd rather call the section "UPCOMING" to encompass upcoming releases in general, and justbkeep non-release stuff under news.
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>>587428390
Even sonic x at least utilized it well with it actually being played for selfish and pragmatic goals, now we have her flirting with males who are just blank faced all the time. it looks more like fanservice for the audience than having some kinf of story utility.
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>>587426702
>>587428203
It’s almost unbelievable how the Sonic fandom got even worse than it was before.
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>>587421671
Honey should wear less!
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blow me
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>>587425816
Is that how Sonic became the werehog?
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>>587423992
Honey should wear less here, too!
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>>587427860
rofl anon this is the worst day of her life and she's feeling suicidal ya shouldn'ta done dat.
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>>587426497
It does. There’s no reason he should be stuck in a lab forever
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*headpats your OC*
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What if the core 4 was different? Who should replace who of Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, and Amy?
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>>587429283
my OC has ebola
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>>587428956
Should be other way around for that to happen
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Can you put Sonic in underwear, "Wear less" anon?
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>>587429049
> 33KB to 2.1MB
The hell's wrong with this software?
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Silver is 25% black creature and 75% Amy
His long lost siblings are Black Doom's most loyal tools
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>>587429342
What if I raped you?
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>>587429512
that’s okay, the power of the headpat cures all
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>>587429948
that would be extremely painful
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>>587429915
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>>587429915
This is why Silver being Shadow and Amy’s child is a dumb fan theory. Also, Silver is not 200 years old.
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>>587430306
Not just dumb but insulting to Silver, by making him the genetic offspring of one of the three existing hedgehogs
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Lettuce is a 30 yo nigga
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The better Sonic Blitz is the fan engine from 2007
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>Not just dumb but insulting to Silver, by making him the genetic offspring of one of the three existing hedgehogs
... it's silver dude... he's not worth defending bro...
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>>587430628
/sthg/ is full of uncs. what's your point?
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who sleepin on they sonamy pillow 2nite
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>>587430306
>>587430559
I don't think silver was planned to be anyone's descendant but i remember maekawa saying his plans for shadow was to have him sleep in a capsule for long years then be woken up bya girl who looks like maria...
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>>587430692
I think he’s worth defending, especially from uwufags.
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Having Silver be the offspring of Shadow and/or Amy is the only way to make him interesting/relevant enough to keep appearing, but Silverfags will never admit this and ST will never do it
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>>587430996
Id rather have it be sonamy if this had to be canonized because shadamy is a fan meme
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>>587430996
You and the select others need him to be related to Amy, Sonic, or Shadow to be interesting. Everyone else is fine with him just being from the future
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>>587431113
shadamy is not a meme. it's cnc
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>>587430628
That a good thing, i don't trust little fags when lost world was their first game
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>>587431182
cnc means westshit cope
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Shadamyfags are starting to push it
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>>587430996
That's just called being a whore, having being "light Sonic" is already more than enough.
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>>587427282
this isnt even like Rouge. Rouge is like Minnie
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>>587431182
Sonadow has more teases than shadamy at this point
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aaayoooo
https://x.com/HyperBitHero/status/2120184380798947421
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>>587430819
Might buy if there's a shadamy variant
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>>587431345
It’s really not, I don’t care about another “Sonic but X”
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>>587428705
If you told a Sonic fan from the 2000s that people like the one in picrel would eventually become the new fandom, he/she would laugh at you as if you were telling a joke
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Wish I may, wish I might
Be someone else tonight
Sometimes I wish I was never born at all
And I'll try to save the world
'Cause in the end I know
I'm the chosen one
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>>587427493
Damn! Not queer...
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I have chased off more drawfags from this place than any of you guys and yes I do consider that something to be prideful of.
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This is the only way ''silver is shadow's offspring'' idea will make any sense but no one wants it to happen. it even matches PSME where the main couple gives birth to a silver like child who then gets a blaze like love interest.
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>>587432093
Looks like that one anon was right. As soon as official source material starts changing this guy gets the stick out of his ass and moves onto another franchise. Why are there so many retards like this? They fight tooth nail and claw over shit they ultimately don't give a fuck about.
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>>587432117
Why?
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>>587432117
I really hope you live alone
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>>587421897
god bless hyperbithero
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>Sonic fans
>American football fans
What’s the overlap here?
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>>587432272
>moves onto another franchise
Where are you getting that? He's saying he doesn't care about the bio change because it isn't in a game.
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>>587432708
There is zero overlap, you people don't know ball
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>>587431182
what's cnc mean, "completely n character"?
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>>587432859
cute n canon. but that works too
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Nic
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>>587432708
The Detroit Lions
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Silver is a shadria child according to maekawa.
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This nigga is mad that we call a ship we like cute n canon
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>>587433068
Tails cucked yet again
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>Sonic and Shadow
>Sonic and Knuckles
>Sonic and Amy
Tails? where are you man?
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>>587433383
To busy gooning to sissy hypno asmr on his ipad
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>>587432093
>sonic channel won't exist in 10 years
Randomtard...
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>>587432708
why would sonic play a game that consists mostly of breaks
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>>587432321
Because I don't like you guys and want this place as miserable as I can possibly make it until it dies. No other reason really. I don't even care about this franchise, I just think you people need to be bullied.
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>>587433068
Real ball knowers know that Knuckles got traded
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You think you want Adventure 3 but you don’t
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>>587426770
The video isn’t even that bad if you ignore the shitty liberal humor. It is arguing for Rouge to get her tits back. Say what you will, but this has a better chance at convincing sega than any of us who they already tuned out
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>>587432708
Me
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>>587433724
Sega would sooner add an actual trans character to the cast than make Rouge look like a woman again
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>>587433562
>Implying Sonic as a franchise will still exist in 10 years
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>>587433591
What's Black MANta doing in a Sonic thread? lol
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>>587433941
>implying it won't
It's easier for a faggot like you to die from aids than for this franchise to die so easily.
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>>587434116
Do you have any idea how insufferable you faggots are to others? I'm not the only one on here doing that. You guys deserve it.
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Archie fans are completely delusional and don't understand anything about Sonic
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they did nothing with AquaBig in that Metal Legion book
nobody really cares about Big
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sonamyfags wish archie was about sonamy
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We talking football?
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>>587434505
Was Aquaman supposed to get mad about him fishing
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>>587434438
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>>587434630
In a twisted sense of irony it was.
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>>587435058
>instead of doing the request, drawfag just insults archie
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Are there Archie fans in the room with us right now?
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>>587434505
AguaBig did an assist and disarmed Black Manta for Aquaman.

The DC X Sonic comics are really just excuse plots to have bog fight scenes so they don't really have much narrative substance to them for characters to be properly utilized beyond just having a cool moment or two.
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>>587434851
not at all.
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>>587434512
Shadow, you...
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Sorry Drippy
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>>587434191
Bro, we live in an age where shit is dying left and right because it's all soulless wokw slop that appeals to no one.
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>>587435279(me)
*big fight scenes
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>>587435187
Anon asked Drago Chao, drawfag delivered Drago Chao, and the statement isn't mutually exclusive with the delivery.
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>>587434757
Picrel was Sonic Team in the 2010s btw
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>>587435330
In a sense that it ended with one. Sonamy was the end game.
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>>587435187
I love his doodles
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>>587435728
you might have been reading a differ4nt comic, or you're hallucinating something
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>>587435504
We also live in an age where a world war could spark at any moment, and you will be sent to the frontlines. Aren't you worried about that?
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>>587435330
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>>587435835
>The very last panel of Archie Sonic is Sonic carrying Amy bridal style
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>>587435864
>>587435913
sonic carries everyone like this. so where's the sonamy?
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>>587435812
NTA I wonder what Manga Drago would look like?
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I need it
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How many special people change?
How many lives live estranged?
Where were you while we were getting high?
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>>587435993
Amy is the only girl who survived the penders snap
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>>587435993
In the Boller's drawer.
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Archie sucks, but anti-archiefags are just as bad because they're obsessed with picking apart a series that died over a decade ago like it's some shady boogeyman that infiltrated every corner of their hobby.
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>>587436085
Another HyperBitHero comm... damn he's based
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Somebody placed a sticker where I rest while the machines do their work.
So I left this next to the sticker.
https://files.catbox.moe/e1jktm.jpg
Saaanic the Hedgehog.
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>>587436209
so as canon as shadally then
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>>587436412
Funny you should mention it.
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>>587436085
Get in line, buddy. She’s mine.
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>>587436412
Some of the anons on here wear diapers with how often they shit themselves over pointless shit I swear.
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>>587436382
Who
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I WILL HAVE MY REVENGE ON KENNETH PENDERS
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>>587433717
You're right. What I want is a Sonic Adventure game that took everything from the first two and perfected it
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>>587436052
in which mangaka’s style? Imada?
I might try my hand, I gotta look at his other stuff
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>>587436824
can confirm. posting sonally will get the sonamyfag to seethe. posting shadow ships can get. ehm. certain individuals to lose it
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>>587436093
Damn… Radiohead lyrics are so deep…
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>>587436869
youtuber who commissioned 3 things posted in this thread
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>>587437035
Either the slapstick one with official half-lid Shadow, or the one with Nicky Parlouser but Imada sounds about right.
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I like the robots and non-animals in this series
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>>587437161
Nine listens to "Hurt" on repeat everyday.
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>>587436321
>Weeds.jpg
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>>587437000
>that time when he tried to claim Knuckles' hat and Eggman as his creations
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>>587437271
Youtuber?
Gooner?
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>>587437603
oh yeah, he just posted a comm a day for a week including a bunch of rare sally's
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>>587434658
Oh hey, I'm the Anon who made that one! Surprised someone saved it lol.

Here's the original quality version, if you want! As well as this other version I don't think I posted.

https://files.catbox.moe/6l8rsh.jpeg
https://files.catbox.moe/1fhcwe.jpeg
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>>587438494
Are you duofag or someone else?
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>>587437438
Yo me encargaré de él...
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>>587438712
¡Lárgate gata! ¡Déjame estar deprimido y miserable en paz!
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If you guys are going to do this can you get to the sex already
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>>587438556
I'm the "wear less" Anon/CrossWorlds fake Anon/Street Fighter 6 fake Anon.
https://files.catbox.moe/vat62r.jpeg
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>>587439334
What if I have sex with (You) instead?
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>>587438494
Of course I saved it. Gotta rep my team.
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>>587439374
>Captain Plumber
Nice to see Fleetway rep.
Are you open for more Crossworld requests?
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>>587437049
He's taking about you.
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>>587439780
I don't seethe about boogeyman in every thread
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>>587434630
Good thing the movies are a vastly popular medium if you want to see another half ooc ship fulfillment.
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>>587432708
Team Amy but thanks.
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>>587431424
I rather have hetero fanservice than shit that shouldn't be groomed to boys.
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>>587438494
I’m surprised someone saved this I made >>587435480
I’m not Florida but I thought it was funny.
>>587439713
Nice art. Saved.
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>>587429915
Well fuck me.
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How come the Sonic fandom doesn't really have its own separate space? GR15fags have multiple websites dedicated to just art and they haven't been around for not even half of the time Sonic has been around. Where is the website where I can find decades-old Sonic art?
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>>587429342
Irreplaceable because they're the lasting legacy characters that are still relevant.
Shadow and Silver follow by virtue of hedgehog prevlige.
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>>587440506
We did until enshittification centralized the entire net
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>>587440506
>why aren't we more like bronies

Can you fucking not
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>>587440506
Say what you want about Sonic autism, horsefaggotry got us beat with pure aggro
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>>587440653
I miss G4
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>>587421702
They still do but it was more frequent back then. It didn’t help that a lot of them were astroturfing Sallyfags
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>>587440623
Not him but while neither side wants to admit it, both sides have more common than they think.
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>>587440786
I would argue they are EXACTLY alike
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>>587440746
Libman and Strong came back to shill the card game.
Ashleigh Ball is dying of Stage 4 breast cancer and that's bullshit
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I hate that I'm not saying this as a shitpost but the ponyfags were a lot more creative with their autism than we are as a fandom. They actually made decent fangames and music and animation.
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Since we're talking about small horses, if you like Archie Sonic and SatAM, you should read Small Horse x Fallout fanfictions
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shut up lettuce
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>>587440865
....Do you....do you not realize we have a shit ton of fangames and animations?
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>>587440847
fast blue horse
fast blue hedgehog

>>587440906
mods, euthanize this retard for pushing FoE
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>>587441003
Yea and the vast majority of them are shit made in flash by preteens and autistic teenagers.
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>>587434273
>Malding to the point of hanging out in these threads
It’s not this place’s fault you’re a loser lol
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Can we talk about this? The mystery villain has webbed gingers just like Starline. Maybe he's Starline's clone or long lost brother.
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>>587440865
The GR15 guys had really strong skills and high creativity. There's not a single other fandom I know that's was as awesome. I listen to GR15 music sometimes even still. But the source material just isn't my speed, and I eventually learned that fact.
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>>587440746
>G1 unfiltered 80 edginess
>G3 diabetes
>G4 awesome first 1-3 season, ok 4-6 seasons, make it stop 7-9 seasons
>G5 movie that ruined G4 and nobody watched the rest
>G6 just like G4 but with AI and without honesty and generosity
Just like Sonic they too had classic era, dark era, meta era and the Nope era.
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>>587441068
And you are saying the horse ones weren't
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>>587435864
>Cosmic Eternity
>Riverdale
Ouch, this was one of the reasons Archie dumped Sonic iirc
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>>587441180
NTA, since most GR15 guys were mostly older teens and 20 something adults back in 2010-2012, they were better at making fan works than any other fandom I know from that era. They had so much skills.
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>>587441180
The blatant ripping off of other franchises for no other purpose than to insert hype moments and rampant self-insertion bullshit is uniquely a Sonic fandom thing. Don't even try to galight otherwise.
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>>587440812
lol so mean
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>>587441141
We're talking about miniature horses, we can't fall for you bait right now.
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>there are a bunch of brownies in here

Oh my fucking god now this place makes sense
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i liek da purple smart
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Tails is a background foxy.
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>>587440853
I heard of that. May she find peace.
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>>587441141
Baseless speculation will get you nowhere, anon.
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>>587441158
I didn't even know G5 ended.
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>>587441498
Are you really that surprised?
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Blue Fast is Sonic, except if Sonic was actually secretly insecure and all his confidence was a front, lived a domestic slow paced life, and had to change in order to character develop, instead of changing the world around the character.
Also, Blue Fast, unlike Sonic, cannot digest meat.
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Hey! It's OK! 今回は、私の猫の知り合いを紹介したいと思います!TAKE IT AWAY, HONEY!!
>¡Hola, alfiletero andante! No hace falta que te hagas el bilingüe conmigo. Ni siquiera eres tan popular en tu tierra «natal». Deberías dejarme tomar el control de la franquicia. Ya me lo imagino: Honey the Cat… ¡la gatita más famoso del mundo! ¡Ja, ja, ja, ja! そう思いませんか?
I didn't catch all of that, but 英語が全部使い切ってしまった。Biggu ōfu!
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>>587441746
IWTCIBF
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>>587441158
What happened to G2? lol

Tangentially related but I really appreciate that Pound Puppies 2010 was apparently a really nice show to work on behind the scenes, especially when compared to all the BS that was happening with Horses.
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https://fx.com/bonsoirdude/status/2120210566442602571

Duo can do animations now?!
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>>587440853
>spoiler
Oh no.
I liked her performance both as the farmer, sports and Nine.
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>>587441141
Starline is retarded. He made a Sonic rival that can't even match to him and the whole point is she's never meant to.
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>>587441671
It depends when you stop watching.
I only bothered to watch the two first movies, the final episodes and some leaked storyboards.
Apparently the ice cream seller becomes a super princess, defeats an evil princess who ruined everything in the last generation and the new villain after her just wanted to reunite with her brother.
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>>587441746
Blue Fast can't be Sonic because she wanted a job as like a cop or air show pilot(?) or whatever. She's probably closer to Movie Sonic or like a weird composed of Jet and Tails or something.

.t someone who stopped watching 5 eps into season 2 because I had better shit to watch.
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>>587442143
Starline is a parody of Sonic detractors who believed in the "Sonic cycle" graphic. Of course he wasn't able to build a perfect Sonic rival. Like Ian said, Surge isn't even as fast as Sonic who can move at light speed, she's just egotistical.
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>>587441924
They never made G2 show.
Tales was just G1.5 in the contemporary 90s where nothing happened.
SECRET BUT FUN
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Rape incels
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>>587442284
I watched 5 seasons of it over a year or two, before I just gave up, and realized that I don't like the the series as a whole enough to be a real small horse guy. I didn't like the vibe and the tone or the execution of the themes alot.
Blue Fast is why I watched the show, as an alternative to Sonic. But Blue Fast wasn't what I wanted them to be.
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>>587442304
>Starline is a parody of Sonic detractors who believed in the "Sonic cycle" graphic.
How? Isn't his whole shtick is that he hates the Sonic vs Eggman loop, when that's what "Sonic detractors" wanted?
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>>587442284
You dodged a bullet, a cannonball, a mortar and a nuke.
Sonic is the orange apple: static, stable and never really changes.
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>Sonic is meant for boys
>Attracts a large amount of autistic adult females
>GR15 is meant for girls
>Attracts a large amount of autistic adult males
What causes this phenomenon?
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>>587442418
Then why is G3 not G2?

You're right, Pound Puppies was secretly fun for the people working on it. Pity about the artists being abused in the Pony dungeons next door, kek
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>>587442606
I watched the entire thing because Sonic at the time was really at the rock bottom and it was lot easier to explain being into pastel horses ironically than taking a blue hedgehog everyone made fun of (including himself) seriously.
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>>587442658
It wasn't really well thought out
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>>587442834
It wasn't cartoon gens, it was the toys. Toons were secondaries.

To those who watches the shows in its original network (hub) everyone made fun of that line when it first aired during the credits in 2011
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Threadly reminder
>Everything bad in IDW Sonic happened because Eggman didn't plap the 'pus
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>>587442772
Former has cute adolescent (adult-coded) boys, the latter has cute young adult women.
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>Weird Al canonically marries Pink Happy and has a kid with her
Sonic characters with this feel?
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Everything bad that happened in Archie can be traced back to the moment where Sonic told Eggman to run back to the Eggman ep
Mpire instead of killing him or arresting him right there
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>>587443141
Had the fanboy not tried to revive Eggman and had just stuck looting based and trying to strike on his own from the getgo, he might still be alive.
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>>587442445
Yes, please. We need sex just as much as you do.
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>>587443210
Mobius XYL unless Silvapple is confirmed.
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>>587442445
Sonic Prime Season 4
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Paramount is making some crazy decisions right now. I don't know how but this will definitely impact Sonic.
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https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPLGGxo2a/

It's official, Amy is a tsundere now.
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>>587443572
Can't be crazier than fusing with WB and continuing to support Isntrael
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>>587443693
She really thinks Amy is supposed to be Boomy
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>>587443693
Why is she doing the exact tsundere joke wtf
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>>587443026
I know, I was one of the few people that actually watched this in the Hub when it was premiering, and I know there were shows on that channel that were better than Ponies.

>I wasn't running from you, I was running to you.
Slick from Pound Puppies (2010) is windpilled, Sonic-coded.
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>>587443693
>now
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>>587442445
>>587443284
>involuntarily celibate

Do incel's stay incels if they get raped?
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Boom Amy just full on replaced Amy as a character as far as the west is concerned. Amy has been vaulted.
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>>587443693
These characters should've stayed mute
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>>587443693
Besties just can't catch a break. I almost feel bad for them.
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>amy is just turning into fanon surge
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>>587443921
While Hub wasn't available in my place, I enjoyed the Hub's promos.
The funnyman met horses years before Sonic.
> Jingle Bells, Batman smells, Robin laid an egg. The Batmobile lost the wheel and Joh-ker got a-aw-aayy!"
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Rev up those bestiechippers everyone. We got work to be done.
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>>587443693
HOLY SHIT LOOK AT THOSE IMPLANTS
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>>587438494
Could you do Tails in Steelers gear? I’d love you long time
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>>587443973
Do you know what a tsundere is? Amy (used to) never deny her affections, exactly what a tsundere would do
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Duo wonned
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I'm gonna ship Surge with my human OC and there's nothing you can do to stop me.
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You guys keep joking. It isn't funny watching my favorite character have her personality erased just because a bunch of retarded archie writers have it out for her. I hate Ian Flynn.
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>>587444418
Oh? Then what's the one where she's super Into someone to the point of violence but not to the point of murdering other love interests (yandere)?
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>>587444454
Kit'll stop you.
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>>587443909
Can someone actually explain what the appeal is of a love interest who would rather pull her own teeth out than admit a crush?
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>>587444587
That's just how little kids are
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>>587444290
This shit franchise died in 2008
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>>587444654
2006*
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>>587444562
Jokes on you him and my OC will be friends.
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>>587444459
Serves you right for harassing innocent sonallyfags, sonazefags, sonurgefags, sonsdowfags and sonailsfags.
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>>587443693
I can't see it, what's she saying?
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>>587444271
So did Butt Fun dog. And then he met Batman.
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I know Sega famously fucked up F-Zero killing the Triforce Initiative but is there any chance Sega and Nintendo fix their relationship?
I don’t think we can survive another Gen of no sales because of the games essentially skipping their platform for ones no one buys Sonic on
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>>587444459
I think I'm becoming numb to it at this point. It's been getting so much worse so fast that I don't think I can actually process it anymore.
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>>587444587
young male genetic failures can imagine that women repulsed by them are just being coy
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Amy gets compared to Chichi, who is a tsundere, just not a conventional modern one.
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>>587444723
1994*
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>>587443909
>>587444587
>>587444943
How can I make this about Sonurge?
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The only good tsundere in all of fiction is Cindy Vortex. The rest drag out the point.
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>>587444758
evayart (sonamy fan) shows Cindy Robinson her sonamy tattoo and Cindy acts disgusted and dismissive
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>>587444730
>Kit
>Having friends other than Surge.

No, and the Kitfags will back me up on this, they know their shit.

>>587444832
It looks more like Namco fumbled the Triforce initiative by not releasing many games (along with Ninitendo's own inexperience with arcades). But IDK
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>>587443693
bestiecollage grows today
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>Amy is gonna become Helga and start bullying Sonic while secretly loving him.
Why does SEGA hate her so much?
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>>587445097
Sonurge is based tsundere love
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>>587443693
She's stuck on Boom Amy mode. They got to recast most of these meta era voices already. Also thank God I thought this was going to be Kristen Bell sneak peak and got worried.
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>>587445228
What about Helga Pataki?
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Run away Silver, cuz Shadow in this Attacks
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I am officially at the point now where I want every single employee in SOA fired. I don't care who they are or what they've done. Mr.John Doe who has only ever worked on bugfixing to see if the translations work and don't run off the textbox? Don't care. Fire literally everyone and then blackmark them from the industry. I don't want a single one of these Americans touching this franchise anymore.
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>>587445568
Yandere or Kuudere
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>>587445439
Sega of America always hated Sonic. They never loved or respected the character sincerely and Tails and Amy get punished by proxy.
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If anything, Sonic should be the tsundere towards Amy, not the other way around.
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>>587445473
Not remotely
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>>587445287
Namco was the one to survive the deal and continue to work with them up to this day on the OOT remake.
Their main cancelled game was Star Fox Arcade which got reworked into Assault.
Nintendo doesn’t consider Assault a failure but the considered F-Zero GX one
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>>587445502
Why do you keep bitching about Boom Amy when Sonic and Amy were actively dating in Boom?
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>>587445439
Amy's character defies the anti-feminine, anti-heterosexual agenda of SOA
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>>587445502
I've been saying for years the modern cast has been tainted by Boom. If you ask Roger or Cindy to do an impression of their character they will ALLWAYYSS do the Boom version. Cindy asks to sound more like Boom Amy during her recording sessions and the directors listen to her because of her experience. Boom infested the main games.
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Do you guys like my extreme gear
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>>587445742
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>>587445691
Tails gets treated better in America than Japan
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>>587445851
Japan made Forces Tails. In character or not, Forces Tails sux
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>>587445781
who gives a fuck if sonic and amy are dating if they're both at their worst?
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>amy is tsundere for sonic
>rouge is tsundere for shadow
>blaze is tsundere for silver
If everyone is tsundere nobody is
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>>587445781
No idea what you're talking about bitching when I just got here.Boom Amy is a suppression of Amy who wears
passion on her sleeves.
>>587445802
I think Boom was their longest lasting line of work.
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>>587445986
Exactly my point
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>We're going to sit here and watch Amy not only have her original personality completely gutted and replaced by a different character but also have her start crushing on Shadow because she'll be retconned to be a tsundere.
>Oh and you'll also be told that not only is this a good thing but that this has always been the case and you're a schizo if you think 2000's Amy wasn't a stalker psychopath.
I think I hate this franchise at this point.
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>>587445802
Roger, Cindy, and Kirk have overstayed their purpose. Time to replace them with people who can give the characters voices that can be taken seriously and not like a joke
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>>587445851
America treats Tails and Knuckles better than Japan, but treats Amy and Sonic worse. Why?
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>>587444748
Oh, shut the fuck up you newfaggot.
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>>587446181
At this point I'd rather watch horses G5 because that butchered their predecessors less.
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Amyfags be like "I only stabbed him once"
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Great news!
Cute!!
Canon, even!!!
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I genuinely hate Duo because he pretends to like Amy and even talks on Xitter like he gives a fuck what's being done to Amy with his bots or orbiters but then takes advantage of this and tries to piss people off.
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>>587446240
Japan has hedgehog favoritism
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>>587446305
>Besties did nothing wrong
Fucking liar.
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>>587444290
I never turned mine off to begin with.
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> "Shadow, were you been these past three months man? After you defeated Black Doom, you just disappeared! And now, bam! Your suddenly here." Sonic said, sitting down opposite of Shadow. "Oh, and by the way, I know you love me man, but going as far as eating as much Chilidogs as me? Awwww, I didn't know I had such a committed fan!" Sonic said jokingly. Shadow glared at Sonic, trying as quickly as he can to swallow all the chilidogs in his mouth. Finally, he was able to say something.

> "For your information, Chilidogs are my favorite foods too, FAKER. " Shadow said, still glaring at Sonic.

>"Whoa whoa whoa, since when did the 'Great Ultimate Life-form' have to eat?" Sonic said, trying to counter his own given nickname. Shadow's face suddenly changed, a shadow crossing over his face.
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>>587446417
What if Fowler pulled it?
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>>587446494
A shippers are shit, there is no innocent here. Your narrative is bullshit and you threw a temper tantrum over being bullied here and never moved on from it.
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>>587444067
Remember: it’s not rape if they like it.
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And in the end, no shipper won for all the females in the franchise were turned lesbian or asexual.
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>>587446679
If Fowler does it then he would be killed by the LGBTQIA+ community, but he would still die with a smile on his face.
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>>587446476
Calm down bestie. Sonic and Surge have an interesting dynamic.
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>>587445993
Diversity, Equity and Inclusion
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>>587446181
Just remember that Takashi Iizuka and Eitaro Toyoda ar to blame as well because they don't bother to pushback on this
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>>587430628
Why is Tangle being carried in a gimp suit? Is she stupid?
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SEGA is a horrible combination of money-hungry and incompetent, constantly chasing an audience that doesn't exist and appealing to no one that will stick around
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Friendly reminder that there are SOA staff that are literally committing corporate sabotage on themselves just to win twitter arguments.
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>>587446417
>>587446679
>Shadamy spammer posting at the same time as Duofag
You can't tell me Duofag isn't behind both
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>>587446843
Your dynamic on them is based on a lie. Like she can't even keep up with him because she's not meant to, so if you wanna deconstruct a ship because it was done back to you then don't cry when it's done back to you again with your rebound which is fake since deep down you're a Sonallyfag through and through and you don't even think the tenrec is Sonic's true wife.

Poor Surge a fucking pawn for everyone in this conversation.
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>>587447083.
>boogeyman
meds and bed
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>>587446729
Still doesn't change the facts it's the besties firing the first shots, always.
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just do
>this
and everyone will be happy
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>>587447043
Social media was such a massive mistake.
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>>587446563
You better hope this next movie doesn't shit the bed, or else the whole franchise is in danger
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>>587447136
You didn't even read IDW. Surge is a tsundere for Sonic. She chose to let him leave and he is her idea of what a hero is. She wants to be a hero. He likes getting involved with her because there's always action and adventure. They have one of the few great dynamics in the modern series. I'm sorry your retarded JP purist brain can't handle Sonurgechads.
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>>587447043
Will anything happen to that conniving dirtbag Chris Hernandez for throwing his own employer under the bus just to save face after he got exposed for being a liar?
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Sonic Forces holds the record of longest running Sonic game ever in regards to print at retail.
Sonic Forces has been sold at retail for 9 years, and just got yet another reprint recently.
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>>587447206
>he said she said
Reminder you're a grown man obsessed over shipping and how shippers behave.
>>587447218
Blaze has more of a chance than Surge, no one in the staff fucking likes sonurge. You have no one.
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>>587446787
that's what sonic does to people
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Say her name Sonamyfags.
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Anyone else seeing IDW fans throwing Evan under the bus?
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>>587447136
TRVTH CORE MELTDOWN
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>>587447143
Are you scared of the fact that I'm just good at noticing posting patterns?
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>>587447328
Pretending to be retarded doesn't make you any less.
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>>587444551
She’s a deredere/megadere
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>>587447393
k
keep me posted
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>>587447561
Nice fanart. Too bad it’s not official.
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>>587447503
i think it's funny since i'm not duo
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>>587447393
Where the hell do you think you are?
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>>587447624
I'm glad you agree that it's "too bad" Sonurge isn't official (yet).
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Sonurge
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>>587447416
Noncanon whore
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>>587447627
Duofag promotes Shadamy as a way to justify Sonurge and to troll. You're really expecting me to think you and Duofag aren't the same person?
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Sonails is approved by Sonic's creators, that's the most canon ship.
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It's all so tiring.
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The tsundere Surge shit is great because it makes Surgetrannies who genuinely care about her shitty character outside of fanon interpretation where she's some generic tomboy love interest omega-dilate, and seeing them seethe warms the cockles of my heart.
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>>587447978
Shut up, fujo.
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>>587447996
As is plebbit
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>>587448003
I also like the idea of Sonic venting his frustrations by beating the shit out of his partner. We all know Amy can't take a hit, but Surge can survive being sent to Mach 2 Poundtown.
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The people who seethe about Surge being feminine
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Surge is more feminine than Amy
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>>587448516
She cries more than canon Amy has
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Son
Shad
Knuxemerald
Silvaze
Rouwel
Tailpad
Creese
Eggilla
Vecilla
Johnilla
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>>587448205
Sonic's punk-ass is the one who can't take a hit
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>>587448516
You're wrong. Surge has more balls than me despite me being a guy.
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>>587447416
Sonic's wife (Sonic was ooc but despite that, he kept his intended dynamic with amy)
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>>587448552
The fact this is true lol
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>>587448205
Exactly. Sonic is the wind and the wind supports domestic violence. Surge is literally engineered to be the perfect punching bag for him
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>>587448516
I'm fine with Surge being feminine as long as she's also overtly a masochist.
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>>587448565
>Creese
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Duofag’s on the warpath. He must be really drunk tonight.
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SURGE CRIES MORE THAN AMY DOES? That's just hard to believe
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>>587448552
>>587448718
STACYmy has a happy and fulfilling life and lots of friends who care about her and support her unlike TURDge and her single beta male orbiter
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duofag and sonougefag wonned
amyhater wonned she has been absent for 2 years. last I heard she was pregnant
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Whole bunch of bullshit in IDW when what the real fans want is Surge to get a temporary super form
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>>587448958
I remember when overclocked Nicole was still fresh out of the press
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If they actually do change or remove Amy's affection wholesale from her then unironically Sally won the Sonicbowl. Yea her relationship with Sonic got mandated against but she was at least able to keep most of her original traits and personality in the reboot. Sally was still mostly Sally by the end of Archie.

What they're doing to Amy right now is far worse. They are straight up removing her original character altogether and replacing her with another version of her wearing a skinsuit and the people doing this are straight up pretending like it's not happening and that Amy was always this way. I mean jeez at least Sally was still at least Sally when Archie died. As far as I'm concerned the current Amy is just a completely different character from what she's supposed to be.
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Sonally won
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_7L0jfmFSE
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>>587448958
Why temporary? We basically already got that with the Dynamo Cage (hope they bring that back, vastly underutilized). Just do regular Super. Why dont people draw an actual yellow red-eye Super Surge more?
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I love how easily you can tell that duopag doesn't actually care at all about Surge or Sonurge by the fact he can only talk about it to hate on Amy, and how its usually paired with Dogshit off-topic Spider-trans sludge. I actually like both Surge and Amy which sucks since this place puts them at war all the time.
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>>587449247
What bowl is there to win without an incharacter Sonic? Who gives a fuck about a wildly offbrand take
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>>587449373
Is duofag just envious by the fact Duo is dead and won’t ever get the chance to bang Jewel?
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Sonic slowing down for love of his life is canon, ic and cute.
He will never slow down for bestie.
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>>587448718
This is a mathematical fact. Amy doesn't cry that much in canon but Surge is driven to tears
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>>587449307
cnc
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I think the Knuckles climbing sprites are weird. Maybe they were designed with the beta Knuckles design in mind, and then they never bothered changing them?
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Archiefags intentionally misinterpreting Sonic as a character to rage bait Amy fags
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It's not rape if you're pretending to be your twin brother.
That was fun discussion.
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>>587449419
It's a contest of theory and Sally wins by default because every other character was either removed, retconned or had their love of Sonic stripped entirely. The only other possible contestant would be Surge but basically no one ships those two despite with the shitposters on here want people to believe.
>inb4 Sonaze
No. That ship is so dead it's in the mariana trench at this point.
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>>587449837
>the only other contestant would be
Elise, retard
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>>587449837
The issue with Sonally was that Sonic has to be completely ooc for Sally to be into him. Archie Sonic is not the same person as game Sonic.
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>>587449883
Literally nuked herself out of existence.
>>587449902
That's why it's a contest in theory.
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>>587449837
You can't bring Sonally into a Sonic characterization argument because at the core of it Sally was in love with Archienic, not Sonic.
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>>587449902
This is why archiefags try to make game Sonic like archie Sonic. They started with IDW.
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>>587449902
>>587449962
shut up retard
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>>587447996
It’ll all be over soon
#10000 is fast approaching
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>>587450023
I don't know why you guys think you have to be a Sonamyfag or a JPFag to notice that Archie Sonic and game Sonic have drastically different personalities even if you account for the inconsistencies in the english dubs.
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>AND HERE COMES SALLY BACK FROM THE GRAVE WITH THE SOA STAFF
>OH MY GOD WHAT ARE THEY
>OH MY GOD THEY JUST RETCONNED AMY'S LOVE
>IIZUKA IS IN THE CORNER AND DOING NOTHING
>REF DO SOMETHING
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What's Sonic Team even gonna do for game stories next?
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>>587450146
Games?
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>>587449902
The mandates do everything in their power to make Archienic impossible to write even if you're still allowed to write Movienic into the comics. I don't know why anyone is acting like there is a "Winning" ship. Sonally was specifically shut down by Sega over a decade ago and now it's Sonamy's turn. What you're seeing is shippertards pretending there's a "winner"

"Sonic's wife"
"Sonic's girlfriend"
You don't understand a videogame character if you fool yourself into thinking either of these line up
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>>587449938
And the Sally with Sonic got erased so what are you talking about? Elise never died. She's still in Soleanna now
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>>587450115
>CHRIST HERNANDEZ IS ON THE ROPES WITH A BIO UPDATE
>IT LOOKS HE'S ABOUT TO DROP IT ON HER
>WATCH OUT WATCH OUT WATCH OUT!!!
>OOOH AND HE EVEN HAD THE JAPANESE BIO EDITED
>Steve I can barely watch this anymore this is too much.
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What she and Tikal met?
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If Archie had gone any further Ian would literally have written Sally learning that "Sonic is free like the wind" as an explanation for her falling out of love with him. That's reboot Archie Sonic, not even game Sonic and he was too windy for Sally to handle.

I dare you to tell me I'm wrong. Ian mentioned this multiple times on Bumblekast including your final ask that sthg paid for on the last Sonic bumblekast. Sally is fundamentally incompatible with game Sonic if you use your brain for a second.
>Bestie
Nice try. Sonamyfags are just as bad if not worse but at least you retards have the excuse that you're not even thinking of game Sonic as a character.
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>>587449307
...the getting retconned contest.
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>>587450553
You're tricking yourself into thinking Sallyfags give a shit about characterization. This is just white noise to them.
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>>587450553
Exactly.
If Sega was hell-bent on erasing Sally's entire existence and Amy's raison d'être, what chances does anyone else have?
Sonic is strictly a committed bachelor.
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>>587450146
Rip-off DB again
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Never took shipping that seriously to begin with but the meltdowns it causes can be fun to watch.
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>>587447416
Where's her pillowcase? >>587430819
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>>587450774
Thank you. Just because I love mocking Sonamyfags doesn't mean I'm going to let Sallytards swoop in and pretend they aren't also bastardizing Sonic to hell and back. They are the original example of a pairing that just doesn't math. Sonic doesn't compromise. The entire concept of Sonally is built on compromise. If you're going to argue about this then you are a shipper.
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>>587450838
But they've done that like 6 times already...
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>>587450553
That's not even getting into the fact that Reboot Archie Sonic wasn't very windy. He wasn't able to resist the Werehog like Game Sonic could.
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Amyfags
>Actively hoping the movies mischaracterize Sonic further so that Sega feels forced by Paramount into canonizing a pairng
Sallyfags
>Plug their ears whenever you point out that Archie Sonic isn't game Sonic and that all of that romance slop was done without Sega of Japan's oversight

If Blazefags were more common I'd bully them too. Shippers are fucking retarded and deserve to be shamed. Illiterate faggots.
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>>587450894
If anyone should take Tails’s virginity its Amy.
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I told you this franchise should have ended after Sonic Boom flopped.
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>>587451323
Good games, for starters.
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>>587451327
Sonamy is supported by Sonic Team. Stop trying to make them "equal". Sonallyfags just reject Game Sonic completely. They don't care about Sonic. They want Standard Teen Jock Hero.
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>>587451440
Not a single person really thinks ToTK is better than Frontiers
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i think shipping causes low IQ. All shipping debates should have ended immediately when Oshima said "Male or female, Sonic isn't interested in romance"
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>>587450973
The "best" part is both Sonic and Sally are too stubborn to compromise. Any is stubborn too, but more "I won't quit" stubborn, when the writers remember that. She's also supposed to be sweet and kind person who still can fight for things she cares about and she was willing to stand in the way of Sonic to defend a killer robot.
She likes Sonic but her entire life doesn't revolve around Sonic 24/7, st least it's not supposed to.
X did dirty for everyone.
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>>587451490
Maybe in /sthg/, the Sonic slurper general.
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So was there any reason why Lola Bunny being a stalker was completely fine with people, but not Amy
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>>587451621
Xfags need to stop saying Sonic X is in-character
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>>587451379
I told you plebbit shouldve stopped being posted
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>>587451702
because it was funny. Sonic fans are unfunny.
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>>587451702
Sonic fans hate anything that isn’t taken extremely serious
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I don't even ship Sonally, I just like pissing you off and making you type of these responses.
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>>587451702
It was MORE played as a joke AND Bugs vindicated her by liking her back
Lola was also subversing an older surface level sex-symbol version of herself
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>>587451702
>Space Jam
>Main hero gets a sexy girlfriend who gets integrated into Canon
>Voiced by Sally's VA.
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>>587451776
You’re indirectly killing the franchise, thus making (You) hate it even more.
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>>587451379
No, Sonic Team deserved to have the last word on shit sonic games
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>>587451702
Well you see, it's very simple actually.
>Attractive woman stalking you
Hot and funny.
>Non-attractive woman stalking you
Creepy and problematic.
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Why are Sonallyfags still talking when all their writers said it'll never happen, with some of them even going as far as to say they'd kill it?
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>>587451776
Yeah, no shit. You are the reason Archie is literally impossible to talk about. People who hate Archie think it's just a shipping comic loaded from beginning to end with romance shit. If you want to talk about Archie you have to spend a paragraph clarifying that you already know it isn't in character and can't represent the games because people legitimately believe all Archie fans are completely delusional and incapable of separating different mediums. Thank you for playing along with the most annoying discourse in the community and making it worse.
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So is anyone who plays the games available to talk
I want to know why the Peel-Out exists. It looks cool, and I know CD was making their own spindash, but basically why would you ever use it when it leaves you vulnerable? Or even if you did, youd immediately curl after launching? So whats the deal? CD is a very intentional game otherwise with its choices so I don't get it
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>>587448718
Surprisingly yes but then again Amy’s name in JP is supposed to be based on the word “smile” (I think it’s a play on words?) meanwhile Surge unfortunately had Evan as a writer while she was still in her introductory stage. Then again she was based on a bad faith interpretation of Sonic in the first place.
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>>587451913
>when all their writers said it'll never happen,
You mean after Ian's money cow got shut down?
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>>587451868
>>587451918
Nigger, I post images on an anonymous board. I'm not part of some grand conspiracy or fandom politics.
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>>587451918
Most of the people who like Archie thinks it's just shipping too since you rarely see them discuss the story.
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>>587451440
We need an update to that Sonic image where he wants something from every Zelda game, except now Link plays Rise of Lyric and wants an infinite Knuckles jump in the OoT remake.
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There is no romance in Sonic
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>>587451018
It's a winning formula. Future Trunks has a few games covering what happens in his timeline after the end of Cell Saga so maybe something involving Silver. Though, earlier today I imagined Silver getting a sub-series of games more in line with Megaman X.
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>>587451776
so the sonic fanbase is just idiots and assholes pissing each other off with slander and fraudwatch memes while sega drives the whole franchise into the ground? this is just like politics
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>>587449247
Sally was turned into a lesbian for the reboot and was later revealed to have originally moved onto Shadow. Also, reboot Sally was removed from normal Sally as purists would say.
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>>587451982
She was based on Scourge, but as a female.
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>>587451918
>people legitimately believe all Archie fans are completely delusional and incapable of separating different mediums.
BECAUSE YOU ARE
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>>587452112
Why did you post this picture of my wife?
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>>587451927
sauce and aura
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>>587452036
I said indirectly you illiterate retard. Word spreads around and it eventually reaches SEGA. You think everyone is joking like you? Get bent, nigger.
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>>587452232
Your wife?
She’s mine
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>>587449247
>but she was at least able to keep most of her original traits and personality in the reboot. Sally was still mostly Sally by the end of Archie.
Reboot Sally is literally nothing like SatAM Sally or even Preboot Sally. What the fuck are you talking about? That wasn't Sally.
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Imagine your ship being rendered so OOC that it's reduced to rage bait for people who are diehard autists for characterization.
Sonally now has the same fate as RaikagexHinata.
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>>587452112
Link's best waifus and the girls next door, like Malon and Ilia.
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>>587450146
Sonic Team should just borrow concepts and stories from classic science fiction authors like Jules Verne, HG Wells, and Robert Heinlein
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>>587452297
>You think everyone is joking like you?
I sure fucking hope so since we're on 4chan and anyone who seriously posts on here should be laughed at and mocked.
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>>587452387
Holy newfag.
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>>587451702
People understand Looney Tunes are in fact loony
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>>587452304
No, I'm pretty sure she's my wife since I've been married to her since 1999.
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>>587452163
Could anyone have predicted Penders claiming Shadally was the endgame? Randomfox is one of the only people who pointed out that Sally wasn't being ironic or tsundere when she was getting angry at Sonic's silly antics throughout the 90s.
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>>587451927
Turning your feet into a fast spinning wheel is a common way to showcase that character is fast.
As for why it looks like an 8, it's probably meant to resemble an infinity symbol and also say that Sonic is so fast, he can do TWO feet wheels while running.
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>>587452115
Surge is every bit as badass and awesome and macho as Sonic
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>>587450146
I don't think they even know at this. Frankly, to me, Sonic Forces felt like the point they exhausted the stories of the series by featuring the ultimate plot of having Eggman conquer the world. Everything feels even more aimless now. Yes, even Frontiers.
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>>587452348
Zelda and Midna right?
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We deserve hot women in our franchise too
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>>587452468
If you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen.
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>>587452348
>Ilia
First time I’ve heard anyone say they waifu her. Usually it’s just Midna or TPZelda
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>>587452584
Malon = Ilia > Midna > BOTW Zelda >>> other Zeldas
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People need to admit that Sonic has used up all the creativity it had.
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She is xtreme and rage fueled
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There is a Sonally shipper named Pesky Pincushion who gets harassed literally daily by windfags and amyfags who think he's "Too stupid to understand Sonic's actual character". The guy has to explain regularly that he already knows. He probably explained it more than any windfag but then you have shitters like >>587451776 making it worse on purpose.
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>>587452642
You must be Voiceanon.
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>>587452550
She's lesbian bait.
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>>587452753
Of course I am. Anything to make you feel better.
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>>587452138
Yes, Sonally is a ragebait has been reduced to nothing but a ragebait ship nowadays.
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>>587452682
>BOTW Zelda >>> other Zeldas
I'll never understand this. BOTW isn't for me but I'll be damned if Tetra isn't better.
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>>587452528
I guess there was a panel of her defending Shadow from Sonic and there’s that weird cover with Sally handing on Shadow but to be honest? Not really.
>Randomfox is one of the only people who pointed out that Sally wasn't being ironic or tsundere when she was getting angry at Sonic's silly antics throughout the 90s.
This though? Them breaking up over drama or whatever? Very likely.
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>>587452702
Surge should be the Broly of IDW Sonic.
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>>587452690
>Creativity
The franchise was made just to be faster Mario
The second and third games just copy DBZ shit
Sonic Adventure is a ripoff of the Final Fantasy formula slapped onto Sonic
Sonic Adventure 2 is just a standard action scifi movie starring Sonic characters
Sonic Heroes is actually creative
Shadow the Hedgehog is a Sonic game with a Halo skin
Sonic 06 is a Sonic game with a Final Fantasy skin
Sonic Unleashed is gay pixar copying
What originality? Even in the 2000s and 90s there was no "originality". Sonic was never original.
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When’s the last time Sonic’s held a woman like this?
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>>587452678
She's underrated for sure, and the most likely winner since Midna cucked herself out of Link's life and TP Zelda has no chemistry with Link that time.
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>>587452943
There’s that upcoming short
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>>587452682
Malon = Midna > ALBW Zelda > Purah > BotW Zelda > All other Zeldas.
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Saleta sexo!
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>>587452937
What FF game has the same formula as Adventure?
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>>587452943
Sonic with Amy in Memories

Also goes without saying Link and Zelda are soulmates.
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>>587452836
I know. You got bullied so hard you started ironically shipping Sonally instead of unironically.
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>>587453029
Can someone redraw Silverrapefag's art but good
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>>587453126
You're so mad over something so stupid.
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>>587453087
The only Links to canonically get with Zelda are WW, and Zelda 2, and SS
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>>587453194
I tried with AI but it was worse.
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IDW Sonic is Teen Titans
Archie Sonic is Young Justice
Boom is Teen Titans Go
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>>587449247
Archie Sally is a skinsuit of SatAM Sally, so still incorrect.
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>>587452970
You’re objectively correct but from what I’ve seen the vast majority are in denial and will shit talk her. It’s nice to see someone else like her.
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>>587453221
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>>587452550
Getting put on the path of redemption so quickly made her lose all her aura. As the other Anon said, she's nothing but shipbait now.
>>587452889
Surge can't even hold a candle to autistic female Broly (Kale).
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>Voice Anon
That fag isn't even here. Amybesties legitimately had such a schizofit over him that he left. I see him every day in the deltarune general because they are nice to him. If he was here I would know.
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>>587453409
I'm having a good laugh. Hope the others are too but I doubt it.
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>>587453248
Soulmates. Zelda has more explicit examples than non-answers like OOT and TP. Even if MM was pretty strong with one flashback alone.
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>>587453316
Woops I mixed up IDW and Boom.
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>>587453470
Little bro couldn't handle it.
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>>587453483
TP can’t happen if he gets with Zelda
Even with the new timeline
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>>587453481
Thank you for finally admitting it. This entire franchise really is a joke, more-so than ever before, and it’s all your fault.
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Watching these characterization debates makes me wonder if I'm a huge secondary in other fandoms. Is my opinion on FMA goign to make an FMAfag murder me just because I only saw the 2003 anime instead of the more faithful reboot?
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>>587452863
NTA but it's because BotW (era) Zelda been around for like a decade and associated for having a big butt. Essentially the first actual Zelda where you wouldn't look like a creep or a nerd for wanting to fuck her.
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>>587453705
You've found me out anon. I currently have all of Sonic Team's staff in a chasity cage that is rigged to explode if they don't do exactly as I say
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>>587453703
Timeline is dumb like there's only three Ganondorfs except now there's four because of TOTK. I always believe they just make the games episodic using the same popular characters and it works.
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>>587453729
If you're an anime only Bleachfag or a Dubfag DBZ fan that is the same as being an Archiefag in those fandoms
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>>587453802
G’night
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>>587453729
Considering nowadays people treat FMA 2003 being better than Brotherhood, no.
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>>587453729
Just don't go into a Scooby Doo thread talking about Shaggy or Scrappy.
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>>587453828
I said “indirectly” nigger.
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>>587453935
2003 is better than Brotherhood. 2003 maintains the theme of the present throughout. Brotherhood degrades itself with battle shounen and killing God.
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>>587453729
The secondary and LARPing crap is just the no true Scotsmen fallacy in action. While it's fun to discuss and roll around in the mud, they're just different interpretations of the same thing.
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>>587453729
The 2003 Teen Titans and the DCAU versions of the Justice League are all WILDLY OUT OF CHARACTER but you won't know this unless you're a big DCfag
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>>587453729
It's just fan elitists vs casuals. A tale as old as time, and it's usually elitist causing strife.
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>>587453847
ToTK messed it up originally because based on where it took place time wise it couldn’t exist since it would have to be the first Ganon but also the Ganon from Zelda OOT
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>>587453984
Yes anon. I am literally the entire fandom.
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>>587451776
Not beating the ragebait allegations.
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Sonicfags purists are pretty calm if you compare them to how Spider-man fags feel about the MCU version pre-BND
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>>587454262
Never said you were.
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>>587453935
Where are you seeing this?
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>>587454296
>>587453409
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>>587454301
But rabid lunatics compared to anyone sane.
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>>587451812
>Lola was also subversing an older surface level sex-symbol version of herself
By being even sexier? What did they mean by this?
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>>587453935
No they don't, you cum-gargling faggot.
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>>587454025
Getting isekai’d into Germany was super retarded among other shit lol
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can't you two do this in a private discord or chitchat or something this thread is moving too fast for me
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>>587453729
Are you a complete newfag or something? It sounds like you are.
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tsundere shit makes me angry because the girl who used to bully me in all 12 grades of school found me in public once when we were adults and admitted she just had a crush on me and i was too dense but she's hot and sexy now and has a boyfriend and i'm stuck here with you faggots arguing about whisper the wolf
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>>587453703
Does Sonic have a timeline
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Can someone draw Sonic raping Blaze for me?
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>>587454151
>The 2003 Teen Titans
Now that you mention it, a lot of comicfags shit on the cartoon for permanently affecting the comics I will never believe anyone actually gives a shit about comic Jinx, it’s all just virtue signalling crap
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>>587454632
Have you considered there is only one reason a woman would spend twelve years trying to get your attention
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>>587454632
Oh yeah didn’t you mention this about a week ago?
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>Only watch Dragon Ball Evolution
>start arguing with Dragon Ball fans about the characterization using Dragon Ball Evolution as a source
I know what to do with my time now
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>>587454632
There was a girl in my middle school who used to bully me on a daily basis with her friends until one day I just started going around saying we were dating and she was putting on an act. She stopped within a week and didn't speak to me again. A few years later one of her friends ended up in my friend group and she told me that I traumatized her by doing that. Women are dumb.
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>>587438494
>>587439713
Making the pineapple into a cheesehead makes her look very cute. and a terrible pizza
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>>587454632
Unfortunately you have to realize women are just as retarded about social cues
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>>587454863
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>>587454751
People saying they like Comic Jinx better than 2003 are just trying to sound progressive. She was irrelevant. Literally less than Pachacamac tier.
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You guys are joking right? You can't be this bad at talking to women right?
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>>587454794
As funny as that sounds would dbfags really fall for this low quality bait?
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>>587455082
nta but yes, yes they are.
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>>587455014
>Less than Pachacmac
Guess who showed up in a hollywood movie before Amy, Knuckles, Tails, Shadow, Silver, and his own daughter
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>>587455082
Maybe not DBE but if you use the 90s english dub they will fall for it every time. It's the real equivalent of Archie since a casual wouldn't know the difference.
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What happened to the thread?
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>>587451327
I just want Amy to be passionate, the ship doesn't have to happen. But will it be nice for Sonamy fans to have their Archie? Yes.
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>>587454025
They were throwing shit at the wall by the end so, no. Hated how they infantilized Alphonse.
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>>587455338
The carpet munchers invaded.
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>>587455319
Nta but would posting this light their thread on fire?
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>>587455449
That entire show was a fever dream.
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>>587455198
That still baffled me, of all characters why him?

>>587455319
That’s a good analogy. Another would be the abridged thing.
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>>587454151
Teen Titans is an example where the adaptation pretty much destroyed the original and became the new source material. Raimi Spider-man is another example. You know the most recent example? The Sonic the Hedgehog movies.
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>>587450196
Love games?
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>>587455529
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>>587455529
>>587455790
Ian is such a fucking cornball.
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Ian Flynn was a mistake.
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>>587449373
Someone who speaks English. That's exactly what I was saying. He's just an enabler and takes advantage of a lot of things to shit on those that hurt him like Krack with Shadally.
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This franchise is a mistake.
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Sonic died with the Dreamcast
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>>587454794
>>587455082
That won't work with 4chan DB scholars.
>>587455319
There are people who genuinely like the dub more, and just with DBE, it is a meme. I mean, literally most of the iconic moments are dubbism. Everything that enrages a Sonicfags will not work DB scholars because they aren't as serious.
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I don't read Archie but literally how is Penders more OOC than Ian? Every time you guys post archieshit it's the most OOC shit I've ever heard and I know it's still Ian. How did Penders top that? Did he have Sonic facefucking orphans?
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Sonic was never good.
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I don't really think it's fair to call Archienic OOC when SEGA was giving them nothing to work with for most of it's time. I take it as it's own thing.
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>>587455986
Spider-man fans are a better comparison because they are constantly seething about how none of the movies use the characterization from the comics AND on top of it the comics have been shit for 20 years so they have an arbitrary cutoff point in the 2010s where it "doesn't count" exactly like Sonic
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>>587456003
>How did Penders top that?
He never did. The reason why is because Ian grew up on Archie, not the games. So whatever flaws Archie had, Ian made it worse.
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>>587456003
Penders Sonic would NEVER say "I'll slow down for you"
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>>587455943
Died when Sega lost the console wars and became a 3rd party sell-out.
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>>587456169
>none of the movies use the characterization from the comics AND on top of it the comics have been shit for 20 years so they have an arbitrary cutoff point in the 2010s where it "doesn't count" exactly like Sonic
Good lord I didn't know Spiderfags had it that bad. I though the cuck shit was all that was wrong at the moment
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>>587455529
Kino...
>>587455790
Holy cringe
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>>587456458
Not to mention how movie shit infects the comics. They have the same issue with “synergy” hence the bitching from TT fans
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>>587456458
There's like a handful of video essays about how Archie or IDW don't understand Sonic characters. Sonic Purists are not that common.
For Spider-man there's literally thousands of videos like that
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>>587455547
>of all characters why him
He was an asshole like his game counterpart and an enemy to Longclaw whereas he's washed and a guidance in Knuckles.
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>>587456458
Spider-fags are the anti Sonic fans. Spider-man used to be able to grow up and settle down, but he became so iconic that Marvel started forcing the character to stick to the status quo and now he can never settle down. He always has to be the "iconic" version. A broke 20 year old guy fresh out of college who is awkward sometimes and always struggling to manage his time. He can't change or have lasting developments because then newfags won't recognize him from the movies. A Sonic fan's dream is the living nightmare for a Spider-fag.
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>>587452682
Malon has a 99% of chances of actually have married and had children with her version of Link, and being the ancestor of rancher Twilight Princess Link.

It's actually far more convoluted to try to explain the opposite than simply having her and OOT link having offspring together.
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>>587456885
Is that a real thing or just cope for the fact that Zelda is always Link's love interest by default
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>>587456458
>>587456584
>raimifags like me were the modern moviefags
i feel bad now
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>>587456950
I also agree with that interpretation. It also explains how and why TP Link is the only one in his village with a horse and knows how to herd. Coming from a rancher family would make sense. But it's really all just headcanon.
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its always funny joining a fandom where there is a real canon pairing and then a fake non canon pairing that fans really like.
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>>587457221
The corpo supported gfs usually are the most boring choice.
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>>587456885
TP Link doesn't exactly inherit Ordon, he lives nearby in a tree house and helps the locals. So, I always found this Malink headcanon reaching.
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>>587457310
ichiorihime
dekuraka
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>>587453871
granny goku was dogshit, dbz is one of the few times subfags were in the wrong
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>>587454683
Blaze should wear less!

Their expressions changed... this scene looks more lewd now...
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>>587457310
That's because main girls are burdened with the role model role you have to be safe as possible with any nuance stripped off of you.
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>>587457210
I don't and neither should you. If anyone is to feel bad or to be blamed, it's the people that made the product different from the original
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>>587456169
>>587456458
Western comics (including archie and idw) are so poorly written they aren't even worth the paper they're printed on
How can he be called Spiderman but no be able to do the thing spiders are famous for--expel webbing
Then you have the entire black suit thing were it doesn't really do anything in the source material and the cartoon changed it (rightfully so imo) and now everyone follows the cartoon
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>>587457581
I dare you to say this shit to a spiderfag with a straight face
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>>587457581
No wonder the manga industry swept the young demographic in the 2020s.
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>>587457581
The fact that he can't make web actually explains that it affected him psychologically into wanting to make web https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2Q8-NQ38CA
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>>587455843
He's ruining the writing and Sonic Team is doing almost nothing about it
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American comics suck in general because almost every character is a ripoff of a character that's a ripoff of a character that came from the 1910's or 20's. Manga is kind of going through the same shit too.
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>>587457921
Up until the 2010s every manga character was the same retarded boy who wanted to be thevery best and ate tons of food. Now they're all the same crying geek.
Yuuta is a perfect example
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>>587458008
Yea, basically every manga after the 1990's turned into Dragon Ball but with different characters. Nowadays it's the highschool trope thing but I don't remember what popularized that. It was before MHA.
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>>587458224
Deku was a big shake up but Yugi Moto predates him
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How would you feel if Sega made the character animations more expressive like for how Sonic the fighters animations were
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>>587458498
Great The games are so inexpressive people don't know what faces these characters are supposed to be making.
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>>587458498
Happy.
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>>587456950
TP Link knows the Epona song that is inheritance passed through generations in Malon's family, and he ALSO is a descendant from OOT Link.

It heavily implies that in the Child timeline post OOT and post MM, Link returns from Termina and meets Malon again, and leads to the obvious conclusion that TP Link might be part of Malons bloodline, since it's a secret song passed by the mother of the family.
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Torture death pit
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>>587457569
Thing is, i don't even know if i would like original spiderman, but i'm glad it was a just one time thing. I feel sonic will be the same, a just one time thing where a lot of children will detatch and won't actually end up in the fandom, this ip is not famous for retention.
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>>587458650
You already posted this.
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I'm fat retarded and ugly
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>>587459214
I don't remember posting this.
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>>587459214
I'm (You) but downgraded into a skinnyfat idiot.
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>>587459214
my personal boogeyman...
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>>587459214
Ian...
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>>587459214
Ian...
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>>587458498
You mean hiring an actual animator who knows what the concept of weight is?
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>>587459214
Flynn...
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Do drugs.
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>>587459558
I love Fiona so much...
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>>587459558
I'm good with just being a stoner.
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>>587459558
Wouldn't it be funny if Fiona kept trying to manipulate him but saw he was in loved with Blaze and then got sad and killed herself
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>>587459214
Woefag…
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Time to read some toxic yaoi
Oh wait, AO3 is DOWN
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>>587459758
Bad stinky fujo go take a shower
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>>587459758
try using the old manuscripts (fanfiction.net)
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>>587456003
Ian had more content to work with than all the other writers on top of claiming to be a big fan of Sonic and still writes the characters because he simply doesn't like their real characterizations.
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>penders IC
Not even sega knew who sonic really was when penders wrote the stuff.
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>>587460004
Sonic Team knew what Sonic was.
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>>587460004
Windnic is older than Archienic by two years. This argument was always bullshit.
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>>587460148
Actually, Archie Sonic is canonically 17
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>>587451776

haha. This is how you trigger sthg. Just spam sonally
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>Archiefags just openly admitting that they only like that garbage for bait purposes
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>>587459671
>asks Blaze if they are a couple
>realizes they aren't with Blaze's long-winded virgin answer
>a devious ntr smile forms on Fiona's face
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>He's still mad
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>>587452265
I'm talking about game design. You had to code that in and it wasn't a one-time "oh he runs up the Palmtree Panic thingy", it's "they have this move as a toolkit for the whole game"
>>587452538
>wheel
I'm aware. That was in the first--
>8
I'm not talking about the design. The design is genius. Bravo Vince, hats off to Ohshima. I'm asking how is that at all comparable to like, the genius of Spin Dash or Insta Shield. What is the vision for it as a tool?
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>>587460437
There's a Danny Phantom episode like this
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>>587460321
>Older than Gamenic, but less mature than him.
Wew.
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>>587460101
>sonic team knew who sonic was but sadly they were japanesuru living in a wooden cabin on top of mount fuji, sitting on a load of cash
>they also never provided reference for westerners, they just bitched and moaned while doing nothing
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Archiefags were never genuine, it was always about shitting on Amy and JP Sonic. Ian is also like this because he's an Archiefag.
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One day i'll make you admit sega was aleays a terrible company.
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Do Amyfags know that Amy's love outlasted Sally's in Archie?
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>>587460606
Sonic Team are game developers. It is the job of BOTH SEGAs to coordinate and relay information.
Archie comics and Dic tell Sega of America they need reference material for their content. Sega of America speaks to their Japanese branch/counterpart and relays that. Sega of Japan gets the material from Sonic Team. Sega of Japan gives that to Sega of America. SoA gives that to Archie and Dic. That's what's SUPPOSED to happen. That is what happens today, which we can at least give the excuse of faster more instant communication.
That is not what they did back then. That is literally everyone's fault EXCEPT for 90s Sonic Team.
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>>587460760
But this betrays the nuance. Also nobody argues Sega were misunderstood geniuses or victims of bad happenstance. Yes it is a flawed company.
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Tails and his girlfriends Cream, Marine, Sage, Charmy and Kit
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>>587460504
Explain?
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Archie Sonic has compassion and kindness even if he has an ego heavy attitude. What I like about Archie Sonic is that both these traits exist at the same time and align, unlike those cartoons where one trait is true and the other is false. The confidence and the joking basically a quirk about how Sonic expresses himself, and makes it fun to watch, regardless of Sonic is just a douche, or if he's a real chad.
This is an angle of writing that isn't covered as much in Western comics and cartoons, I bet.
It's preferable to Ben 10 becoming a totally different guy in Alien Force, and having a personality change. As well as Blue Fast from the small horse show being extreme, but primarily to hide their core self.
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>>587460897
Kino
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>>587460942
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_u-hfcxHPc
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>>587460826
>but they are just game developers
Then they shut up and suck on it.
>muh 90s
A lot of companies were already globalized, they had the ability to be informed in less a day.
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>>587461029
It just makes him look bipolar because his personality can't pick a lane. You say he can be compassionate and kind, but he can also be very mean and insensitive.
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>>587460897
What would happen is all girls initially go for Tails. Cream however, having the weakest connection/overlap with him, is the first to break off from that. She likes Charmy's adventurous spirit but dislikes his crassness and requirement to be wrangled. She likes Kit's supportiveness but is also protective of him and sees him as a hurt person and doesn't appreciate his coldness.
Marine likes Tails but is active and open enough to appreciate the other two. She thinks Kit's water powers are neat, but she and Kit never talk for very long before Charmy and her spontaneously decide to have fun together. Charmy and Marine are the first to really stick as a long-lasting bonded pair
Sage, having no competition for Tails, sticks by Tails
This leaves Cream with Kit and through her nurturing Kit develops from somebody hurt to a real hero and person for himself, and if he can recognize Cream's impact in that journey, pledges devotion to her and Cream and Kit stick together

I tried to avoid using words like "orgies" and "sex" to convey this is more about character dynamics than gooning
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>>587461029
If you paid me I wouldn't be able to tell you the difference between Archienic and Alien Force S3 Ben. They act roughly the same. The biggest difference I can think is that Ben is slightly less obnoxious.
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>>587461206
>then they shut up and suck on it
I'm going to rape your mom while you watch behind a locked glass door and see if you can shut up and suck on it
>a lot of companies
Yeah retard a company problem. That's Sega. Not Sonic Team
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>>587460897
I miss the Tairusu garufuren poster.
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>>587461029
Archienic calling himself awesome and a cool hero 300 times is unforgivable mischaracterization and it is OOC because he didn't talk like that before Ian Flynn.
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Can someone give me that site that has all the Bumblekast transcripts with search features?
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>>587461328
Seethe and cope, japanpedo.
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>>587461249
Very cute post, I like your thinking

>words like "orgies" and "sex"
Those can come later
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Archie is OOC
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>>587461483
People don't remember this because it wasn't on Bumblekast, but Ian once said a date with Archie Sonic would consist of him talking about how cool he is.
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You could ship almost any character with Tails and somehow it would be IC for both of them.
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>>587461648
Like in an ego way or in a "yesterday i was in space flying around fighting a god" way?
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>>587461675
Yep, Tails is just that lovable
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>>587461675
Barby and Mina with Tails must be OOC somehow because it's an Archie ship
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>>587461486
I have it but i dont wanna give it to you since i dont know who you are
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>>587461483
Archie Sonic is technically a mischaracterization I guess. But I wouldn't like Archie overall without Ian's recontectualizing and tonal changes. Ian Flynn added quips humor and fighting and clever use of Archie plot elements. Probably other stuff too.
I like how much more over the top Ian Flynn stories are than Penders and Bollers
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>>587461730
True.
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>>587461618
Thanks
>later
Yeah
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>>587461710
I don't think Ian went into detail, just something along those lines.
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If Archie never bled into canon I would never complain about it. I'm sure comcifags would hate it if the games invaded their canons.
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>>587461925
It happened in reboot and IDW
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>>587461925
But that's literally what happened though. Did you even read the comics?
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>>587461787
Ian definitely made him a lot more snarky and arrogant.
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>>587461769
I'm analyzing the story of Sonic Frontiers and comparing the differences between English and Japanese. I realized I was partially wrong about something I had taken for granted, so now I want to review all of Ian's statements on the writing process to make sure I didn't misinterpret something about the writing process of the side story dialogue. More specifically, I remember Ian said he did not write any of the side story dialogue in The Final Horizon, I want to make sure my assumption that he did write the side story dialogue in the base game is correct. I would also like to review his statements on the writing process in general
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>>587450676
new coloring just dropped
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>>587461957
I wouldnt quite call reboot bleeding because reboot was formatted and formulated with the games in mind, besides Unleashed it was meant to be complementary (whether you felt that did a good job or not)
Idw again isnt "bleeding". That is a comic made around game canon
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>>587462069
Cute!!!
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>>587462051
Why would he need to lie about NOT writing something?
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>>587462087
Archie had to get rid of basically the entire extended cast before they got rebooted.
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>>587461986
No. I only see their pages posted here and the annoying way Sonic talks smells exactly like the bullshit we got after Pontaff.
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>>587462143
I could think of some reasons, but that's not what I said nor what I was thinking. I don't think he lied, I think I have made some unproven assumptions or I might remember things incorrectly
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>>587462180
Yea, I can tell you're talking about something you have no idea about, it's just blind ignorant hatred over something you've barely interacted with. Maybe you should try talking about something you like and have knowledge about.
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Jap purists melty!
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The Archie fags on this general will try and say it isn't an OOC shipfag comic because they don't want gamefags to keep insulting it. The Archiefags OUTSIDE of this general literally describe it like this. You should just own it, gamenic and archienic don't appeal to the same crowd unless you count powerscalers.
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>>587462051
>https://youtu.be/F_WrfZN07j4
12:54
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3 hours of talking about how much you hate a comic you don't even read lol
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>>587462179
Notice how in my post i only wanted to talk about the reboot. That means after Ian was told what he could and couldnt use for the reboot. After that drafting period there was no further "bleeding"
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>>587462398
Where did people get the idea Ian understood Sonic?
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>>587462398
Holy OOC
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>>587462373
I don't hate her, I just hate what her fans and enablers do with her.
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>>587462517
Shifting goal posts doesn't mean the initial statement wasn't wrong.
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Sonic takes Amy at her word in every game. From SA1 to Frontiers he never takes it with a grain of salt, even if he disagrees he will switch modes entirely. He doesn't compromise for her, he believes her with all his heart. This dynamic is easy to understand if you aren't a westoid fucktard.
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>>587462559
Theres no goal post shifted. I wanted to talk about reboot and you said "well before le reboot--" like a retard
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"Sonic does not act the way he does in Archie"
>archiefags seethe for 10 years
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>>587462457
Thank you

>I didn't write any of the incidental this time, all of that was a surprise to me
I think "this time" here implies he did write them for the base game, I assumed/remembered correctly then
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>>587462682
The initial statement I was responding to was >>587461925
That statement is incorrect. I'm not talking about specifically before or after the reboot. You're doing that.
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Seething about archie every day for years award.
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Ian isn't that bad. He doesn't do the annoying uwu gay therapy bullshit Evan does. Penders was the one behind all of the gross Sonally shit in Archie, Ian tried to fix it. Ian wrote Frontiers which was really hype and the Metal vyrus was all Ian. Ian hate is forced.
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>>587462418
That’s why I recommend Archie to people who are fans of the Sonic franchise as a whole (the games, all of the cartoons, shows, movies), people who are more open to different interpretations of the world and characters. Those type of people would get the most out of the book with how much of the franchise’s history is represented in it
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>>587462758
The projected antagonism is what really gets me. Anon thinks anyone who likes Archie or even mentions it is out to get him.
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Maybe if Archiefags didn't try to change Sonic, Shadow, and Amy into different characters there wouldn't be an issue
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>>587462745
I didnt make that initial post
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>>587462826
Ian did not make the Titan fights or compose the music, nigga. None of the hype was from Ian.
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>>587462826
>Ian wrote Frontiers
Kishimoto and Ootsu wrote Frontiers, Ian wrote most of the dialogue in Frontiers, he didn't come up with the hype moments. I don't hate Ian, just clarifying this point
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>>587463009
Did I say or even suggest you did?
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>>587462826
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>>587463018
Arguably, Ian wrote uwu therapy moments for Frontiers. His contribution is literally "i wanted to give them character arcs" and "i wanted to evolve them" which meant deep talks with Sonic about their futures
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>>587463041
You said shifting the goal post as if i shifted it. I didnt, it wasnt mine. I was creating a new goalpost for myself
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>>587463119
Then don't reply to me as if I'm talking to you and then get confused when I correct you on the conversation I was having.
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You're melanated.
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JP fags are autistic and rude but why are you pretending Archiefags don't post retarded shit like "Sonic just wants to get laid with hot chicks" over and over and actually try to argue that he's supposed to be this arrogant dumb jock huckster guy. Of course you're going to get pushback from gamefags because even if the games are inconsistent, that personality has never been in a Sonic video game. You are literally just saying alien shit to people. It's true that it's annoying when they sperg out at any mention of Archie but there are anons who will literally just do that. Xfags do the same shit but they get away with it since only turboautists like Random will call Sonic X OOC.
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>>587463180
What conversation were you having? If you said "it happened in reboot and idw", that is an incorrect statement. That is not what happened. Every reply after that is me and who i assume to be you
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>>587426702
I actually ran into Mr. Pollock at the Expo. I told him to stick his hands in my pants and gently touch the tip of my penis.
The angry face he did made me feel uncomfortable and he told me “No” without my consent.
He’s a bad man. Fire this man, SEGA.
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>>587463245
No I didn't say that. Someone else did. Pay attention to the reply chain. I would say that statement is also incorrect because IDW is it's own separate thing.
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>>587463238
Sonic X is OOC you dumb fuck
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>>587463187
Tails does strike me as sauceless
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>>587463238
Archiefags: waaa why are the gamefans insulting us and saying we don't understand Sonic
Archiefags: HERES SONICS CANON WIFE AND CHILDREN WHO HE MET IN THE KNOT HOLE CITY AND MARIED IN THE MAIN ARCHIE CANON WHILE AMY KILLED HERSELF
They can fuck off already
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Douge.
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>>587463238
I'm going to be honest, I have never seen someone argue that Archie Sonic should replace Game Sonic outside of obvious shitposting on this website specifically and only on /v/. I do not see this mythical argument being made anywhere else.
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>>587463424
>Archie pairing
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>>587463440
>Comic fag
this is for you /co/
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If no one bakes in 2 minutes the next thread will be a Douge thread. Do you want that? Do you want that /sthg/?
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>>587463428
Nobody says "Archie Sonic should replace game Sonic". That doesn't happen. What does happen is Archie fans assuming something Archie Sonic does is in-character for game Sonic, then arguing that game Sonic would do that. It's the same shit all other shipperfags do but Archie fans will talk about Archie as an "official" source even though it literally did not have overview from Sonic Team until the reboot.
No Archiefag actually says "Archie Sonic should replace game Sonic". JP fags frame it like that because they hate Archiefags and see them as invading retards. Archiefags do a clumsier thing where they talk as if they're already the same.
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>>587463631
Im ok with it. Gooning rn
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should I bake?
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>>587463428
People say this about Shadow and Tails all the time. We had a FUCKTARD a few weeks ago insisting Archie Amy was in-character even though the real Amy would have caused an international incident over that dating scene.
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>>587463712
If nobody bakes, I'm makin Jazz Jackrabbit the OP.
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>>587463846
>>587463846
>>587463846
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>>587463638
Yea, I haven't seen any of what you're describing in that post happen on here or on /co/ or even on /trash/. If you can point to where this is being done specifically then I'll give you some credence but otherwise you sound crazy.

At most I see people saying stuff like "Archie Sonic was a horndog/slut." or "Archie Sonic had some pretty hype moments" which both would be correct depending on your opinions.

>>587463745
I remember that happening and they were clearly shitposting. If you thought that was someone being genuine then idk what to tell you other than learn how to spot shitposters better.
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>>587461675
All the other Tails ship suck if he isn't paired with same age characters or having to write an entire AU, so you can ship Tails and Rouge together
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>>587444723
I feel like the moment Naka left was the technically-correct answer, but to me, 2009/2010 was the cutoff.
>we got a few direct sequels to pre-Naka-departure games in that time (Rush Adventure, Zero Gravity)
>Sonic Team was actually still trying with Sonic as a flagship game franchise and Unleashed and Black Knight were made with sincerity and feel like the Adventure era's vestigial extensions
>The ironic self-loathing Meta era truly kicked off in 2010 with the marketing and writing of Sonic 4 EpI and Colors, respectively, and Free Riders killed the Riders series
>Colors was also overrated trash designed for people who hate Sonic that allowed Western writers to trojanhorse their way in game spaces



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