>Latest patch:https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450/view/680766201707627248>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/https://deadlock-api.com/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/https://www.deadfrag.com/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>587532841
XTH FOR SILVER'S BUFFNESS
CLOUD 9 WINS THEIR DEBUT GAME VS A LITERAL WHO TEAM DRAFTING SILVER
Silver is broke(n)
>>587562878the gun ivy performance was more criminal than the Silver and Seven
nerf silver.
>>587562976she's been OP since she was introduced... too strong
I thought lefaa was supposed to be good?
>>587562878ivy being the town bicycle and lash missing his ult twice was a lot worse than silver
No but actually can anyone tell me when was the last time Silver was considered S tier by these people?
>>587563051he unfortunately took the macro pill
um no one ever said silver was op ok why are you pushing this agenda you stupid silvertranny downplayer
>>587563127who are you quoting
>>587562443Everyone can tell that designing MOBAs for casuals is a completely retarded waste of time and money by HOTS having to paywall heroes to not get shut down by Microsoft
Harrow only gets to pop off in these tournies because people stand still and let her heal themnobody does that for me in my pub games
Silver curled in a ball in her bed, drunk out of her mind and sobbing, but having no idea what she's upset about
>>587563260Im giving you aim training for free
Silver curled in a ball in her bed, drunk out of her mind and panting as she furiously fingerblasts her hairy unshaven smelly sweaty roast beef cunt because she's ovulating
Silver is still fucking worthless, cry about it upplaying silvertrannies
>>587563127Not him so I dunno, but it must have been someone like this guy
>>587563425Interesting how the other screenshot contains a source player/website and this one doesn't
>>587563274I like this>>587563369But I like this more
>Takes all the sinners from their team and dies with a big bagWhy are Rem players like this?
*demands you first picks his onetrick*What's HIS problem anyway?
>>587563636what would you do if you had a [hero] onetrick on your team, draft him [not his hero]?
>>587563636It's the only character he's great at so unless you want the match to be 5v6 you better make sure he gets mina.
PLEASE GOD LET THEM PICK SILVER AGAIN BECAUSE IT WOULD BE SO FUCKING FUNNY
>Building gun damage boosts your melee damage>Building gun lifesteal doesn't give melee lifestealWhich retard came up with this system
how do I use kelvin ult without my team yelling at me?
If I was playing in a weekly tournament on some retarded superteam that's 10 levels above every other team in my region (but 10 levels below the real region) I would just draft the dumbest shit to taint the pickrate/winrate data
>>587562885My brain is still stuck in the fight first rift or gg meta I geuss, I use to build it but stopped since I felt it just delayed useful items.
SEVENGAWDS
>>587563610>team lets the sinners sit for like 5 minutes without touching them>decide I'll just take them>BRO WTF REM DONT TAKE OUR SINNERSIf you do this in my games, I will take every sinners and box on the map and donate it directly to their Wraith
>>587563821kelvin ult is dogshit im not even joking
>>587563821You don't Next question
>>587563821fuck your team
Well at least we get a funny Seven again then
>>587563821Scream that you are about to use your ult and if they still seethe call them retarded subhumans and report them for chat abuse to get them banned from ranked
I can't believe they didn't pick S+++er again...
>>587563821scream IN HERE I AM KING in mic
>>587563859No reason to risk the money even if it's not a lot.
>>587563875>My brain is still stuck in the fight first rift or gg metaYeah, that's fair. Cultist actually sucked in that meta even if your hero meets the criteria for that item.
Ivy bros...?????
>>587564021Just leavin it on the table, ridiculous
>>587563821>nigga about to die>dome>rejuv dropping>don't dome>lash on team>wait for him to ult before doming>clusterfuck teamfight where everyone stack on top of each other?>dome>bwo all alone farming a sidelane while you got your powerspikes?>that's right>domeyou can always cancel it if someone whines, when to dome and when not to dome is literally the only skilled thing in his kit but it's very important.
they buffed comeback mechanics because they cannot fathom nerfing (balancing) the early game of so many heroes that just rape you if you interact with them before minute 20
>>587563889>Defend the walker?!???>NOOOOO YOU'RE LOSING SOULS BY NOT GOING TO DO SINNERS RIGHT NOWWWWW
Well?
>>587564270yfp might last 7 minutes long since they have a real last pick
>>587564078yeah I ended up running a debuffer rush build (hb mystic slow suppressor -spirit res item)but I've lost every game recently with that so prob just going to go back to cultist R I C E H A R D playstyle.
>>587564270As someone said in the last thread the drafts barely matter because the individual player difference + teamplay difference is too big
>>587564269If you cant find 30s of free time over a 5 minute span that probably means the team is getting gaped everywhere on the map so it probably doesn't matter who takes the sinners
The fact that everyone of YFP would be happy to jump ships to C9 disgusts me. NA has no loyalty or resolve for the teams they're on
>>587564270I don't know who WILL win, but I know who I WANT to win
everyone says to play a farming m1gger but every time i play one the enemy team has 2 or sometimes even 3 enemies stacking in my lane which means i have to concede the wave and i can never get the wave pushed out enough to take my own jungle or boxes while my team does fuck all elsewhere on the map and i know the solution is to have human teammates who can punish it or leverage their number advantage elsewhere on the map but that loops back around to the role being team dependent just like all the roles people say you shouldn't play because they're team dependent
>>587564267SAFETY FIRST
>>587563821Why wouldn't you want your team to yell at you?
>>587564696play wraith
What if other heroes had transformation ults too?
>>587564696dont push to far do more jungle camps and do more box runs if you are seeing 3 people on your lane it means you have pushed to far into their territory are about to be raped
>>587564270why is Geist banned? because of Jonjon?
>>587564792this is a fucking yugioh card i know it
>>587564869comeback rift is the only possible way they can make it competitive, and that is where geist is strongest
>>587564869isn't geist the most broken hero atm?
get rid of lefaa
>>587563313its a shame because kr has the best coaches
>>587563313c9 would lose to kastilia or whatever they are called
>icefrog made deadlock meme in 2026
why is Paige, a support allowed to deal 10 trillion damage and 3 ways to save herself while Harrow is just a full heal bot and turns to an actual hero every 3 minutes when her ult is up?
>>587565238harrow is not a self-insert
>Pocket getting rapedlove to see it, even if I hate lash.
Does Bebop have some sort of heavy melee cancel? I ran into a Bebop, without any active items, canceling his heavies.
damn sick hidden chinese harrow tech of standing still so she can full heal you in 2 seconds
Abram's stinky greasy Ixian cum inside Mina's clean-shaven soft pink Asian cunny
>>587561602Was AR-anon a DLNS pro all along?
this dude is mindbroken
>>587563313There's no debate It's a MOBA meaning NA gets dominated
>>587565515it was lightbringer
>>587565380Chances Lefaa is the "Mina is easy to play" poster?
>LardNM after not getting picked up by C9
>>587565338PEOPLE NEVER DO THAT FOR ME EVEN IF I ASK>HEY ABRAMS HOLD STILL A SEC I'LL HEAL"NOEPREEEEEEEEEEEE
why is Pocket's girlfriend feeding? this has been like the 6th time Mina died?
>>587565735just aim
>raped by Abrams repeatedly as Minaliterally how?
>>587564765>>587564837i'm wraith in pic related and there's only so many back camps/boxes i can do here and my only other option appears to be pray my team wakes up and does something cross-map or comes to defend all our shit that's ripe for picking the pocket tried to kill seven shortly after this but he failed because the two knuckleheads over there dropped yellow wave and it ran all the way to our walker and shiv had to go get itif i go into my jungle here they just rape me and/or my walker
>>587565752piloted by a tranny
this billy is scared to melee
>>587565608HIS JOBHIS GIRLHIS HOUSE
>>587563636Did you mean LordNM because he isn't even playing Mina lmoa
>23% KP as Billywhat is he even doing?
>>587565795if your NA you gotta use your mic, our region is fucked when it comes to map awareness due to being monolingual
>>587565795wait til ult and full cards and ask team to come rape, if they will not GG
>seven stomping in night shiftShut down NA
>>587565795so you sit under walker and wait for them to leave and if they dive you, press one of your 4 i win buttons.
>>587565582yeah im gonna need a source
>>587565907unfortunately i did tell them that but my team was silent until late game when they finally found their microphones to complain i didnt have as much farm as seven
>gt who starts randomly disconnecting after getting his shit pushed in but suspiciously stops when he realizes we're winning (even without him)>drifter who fell for the "10 death power spike" meme and only managed a positive k/d in the last few minutes>wraith who did nothing but afk farm all game to get ready to shred walkers (she didn't come online until 35 minutes so 80% of her objective damage is on shrines/patron)>they're shit talking the enemy team the entire match like they're goodshould i have soft thrown instead of carrying these retards? i really need the points to unlock kelvin in ranked...
>>587565962Holliday and Abrams alone is enough to rape a solo wraith there you shouldnt even be under the walker here against humans you have to give it up and pray your team does something
wow, Harrow just popped ult and YFP's easy kills just got nullified
>C9 has Rejuv>Contests rift???
>fight rift into rejuvWhat was the plan here
>no knockdown to force unstoppable buy
what is the point of doing both bashdowns if you dont have crushing fist??
>esports orgs leeched onto deadlock finallywelp was a good run ggs game is cooked before even leaving beta
>>587566191damage I would imagine
Apollo players in EU Brick 1 are better at ulting than NA'S top 1%
>Dude Melee Apollo is so disgustingly broken people didn't realize how good this could be>Apollo gets picked twice>does nothing both games after minute 10
>>587562765We need more US DOD heroes.Give me an AWOL Wrecker who served in the US Army in Ixia, who has devolved into a Colonel Walter E. Kurtz type of character.
>>587566000https://jiggie.fun/xpicM5
What do I say when the devs ask me when supports like Paige or Kelvin are good carries? Like they're good supports, but I don't want them to have all the souls.
>>587565907honestly he should just swap to left lane since he already got his walker and chimp at his team to take over jannying right
>>587566254newfag
>>587566390I hate you
All Kelvin players must fucking hang
>>587566440i've been here longer than you've been alive, tourist
>Lane against Silver>She gets ult point >Runs me down under my guardian >Stays oppressive until late game where she falls off So is that her gimmick? That for a window in the game you just have to let her steamroll you?
>>587566071yeah that.
do you guys think pocket became a troon to rebel against his WMAF parents like elliot rodger
>>587566294I have always felt the biggest gap in character skill between regions was apollo >>587566493there are many characters with this gimmick
>>587566125>>587566131It was a max res rift for them and it's early enough into the game that the death timers allow them to take that fight without losing their entire base. Losing both shrines at this deficit would've been GG, if they allowed the enemy team to get waves up enough to siege base and they lost that fight they would've lost both shrines and dropThey fought it to try and get rid of rejuvs and make a base push much harder
KWAB
>>587565907every mic spammer i have ran into want to rp as their characters or talk about random nonsense
>Calc
>>587566468Jig'd
theres no way c9 is actually paying these guys
newfag here, is Yoshi icefrog?
>>587566714jonjon quit his job for c9 so they're probably getting paid
>>587566735delete this
>>587566373We need>A Curator to round out the OSIC. Maybe someone who operates like an artificer i.e SCP-mancer>One more Blackmore Academy Student to round out Graves and Apollo >One more deadbeat to color the lowlives (Circus folk, bear pit, etc) >Slork, Mercenary, and Wrecker
>>587566595Fair.I would have sperged out on my team over mic tho.
entire team is mentally boomed i wish i could hear the voice comms right now
>>58756674250 year old virgin wife
so NA is just a dead region huh
>>5875666694 minute we winning
>>587566762I dont see how. idk about dota but cs has million dollar tournaments and most orgs lose money without the billion dollar major sticker buff (some do anyway lol)
Lomein plays like a fucking rapist how many times did he charge and fist Paige and Mina
>>587566390when's the next one?
>>587566898i figure c9 is gambling on deadlock esports being big and is eating the loss to get in early
>>587566824It really depends if it was a pub with randoms you're probably at a 30k soul diff at 19 minutes because your whole team sucks and is getting mechanics + micro + macro gapped which means anything you try to do will go horribly which means a fight into triple rejuv goes extra horribly so I don't blame you
does anyone play this guy anymore or is he just absolutely gimped
>>587566930Canonical Abrams behavior
Well that was a kinda fun nigshift for once, there were a few good games in it>>587566930Why don't people buy a quick debuff reducer against Abrams anyway?
What happened to Eido's team
>>587567014this game has like 2 years left before it's fully released thoughever
>>587567081Dont you need that + weighted shots to parry it?
>>587567078yoshi raped his entire kit to make him kidnap manthen deleted kidnapmanhe's a dead character until they remember he exists
is this the perfect ivy build?
You just know the tranny is going on some psychotic rant about black people to xhe team mates right now.
If you queue for a support and then don't do a support build you genuinely need to be killed
>>587567078he's played for the POTENTIAL macroman plays but in pubs he's dogshit yep
>>587567078I play him for fun sometimes.
yoshi is a retard, no cap high key>>587567208you can build any items you want on ivy and do good, overtuned character
c9 would rape buff enjoyers and leviathan btw
>>587567208>more than 0 gun itemsNope.
>>587566254welp was a good run ggs game is cooked before even leaving beta
>>587567208>no healing novathat item is too good on ivy to ignore.
ggs
>>587566742>Is my manner of dress truly so peculiar? I recall it was the fashion, granted it has been some time>Forgive me, but we must be moving if we are make our reservation>Also, I trust you have not made plans for the morning? >Good. I anticipate that I won't be satisfied with just a singular instance of coitus tonight
>>587567294.... in the losing contest... on opposite day.... on planet retard...
It's not about Trans 9 winningIt's about Goober losingFuck that guy
>>587567294We already know Melee Creeps is low tier in when playing against europe
>>587567294AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>587566742A shota can't handle all that
>>587567423But Lomain told me Seven was C tier? >>587563096
So why can ava still not break heavy boxes? Isn't her entire character designed specifically around roaming and farming boxes? Isn't that why they gave ava an ability that does literally nothing except for break boxes?Did the devs just forget when they updated the map?
SevenGODS... I kneel...
>>587567503Calico needed nerfs
>>587566742Warden can handle that
>>587567498c9 could draft 6 wardens and win against the trash that is NA lol
>>587567432wow... c9 RAPES both of them in the losing contest on opposite day (winning contest), and on their home turf too!??? I kneel!!!
>>587567437for me its watching lordnm lose after that cringe as interview
>>587567170>>587567261>>587567269I came back to deadlock just today and was stunned that they stopped his doors being instantly closeable on cast, now adding a 7 second delay before it could be closed. It really fucks him up since that was his only escape so now I don't really understand what to do with him. I never liked kidnapping, felt like a gimmick and was super unreliable
>>587567498literally this >>587567550
>>587567437who's goober?
Ahhh...I lose elo for this...competitive games are something...so retarded
>abrams highlights is just him raping PAIGE, MINA, and HOLLIDAY on the enemy team (literally all the women)LET'S SEE WHAT THIS BBC (big blue cock) CAN DO
>>587567650why is he sucking a penis in that pic
YFP reverse sweeps if they didn't give up on S+++er...
>>587567503>Did the devs just forget when they updated the map?probably, they are retarded
>>587567639>spirit apollo
>>587567597A faggot who goy Silver nerfed into being unplayable for 7 months because Pic related ( he is on Silver here and argued she shouldn't be able to do this)
*Blinks**Phantom Strikes**Ults**smacks lips while looking down at Paige*>Lets see what this dick can do.
>>587567759This is in fact retarded
Here's your honesty list, lil gup
>NA team getting stomped by fucking Seven
>>587567759try again, but in English this time
>>587567813Silver and Seven both rapidly climbing in dishonesty... If they keep going at this rate, they'll be in literally every game within two weeks....
most fun hero to play while drunk?
>>587567813Sevenbros... Silverbros... Hazebros... Doormanbros... WE ARE BACK
>>587567813how is billy being played and yamato not being playedwtf happened
>>587567813>lil gupwhat does this mean
>>587567939Yamato's rape tether got nerfed. She is probably still absolutely able to fill the role but overly reactionary 'pro meta' has determined she is no longer relevant.
>>587567961Little guppy fish
>>587567939Billy is a frontline, Yamato is not
>>587567961its a compliment, sport
Literally unfinished character btw
>>587562887I like that she's broken (broken like me)Maybe that makes me a fool
>>587567939Billy 2 got buffed to give him max HP on hitCombined with his 3 also giving him max HP on melee hits(which procs on his 1) you can easily stack over 10k max HP during a teamfightAlso since both are max HP increases, they don't count as heals so antiheal is completely ineffective against him
>>587567521You're not wrong but there's ways to nerf a character that don't involve breaking their entire gameplay loop.
>>587567961condescending diminutive of AAVE origin
>>587567920Doorman is likely under picked right now, being completely real. The ability to apply pressure to multiple lanes is very important in the current meta and pick characters have never been more valuable with how OP carries are right now. He shouldn't be paradox priority but he's looked really decent every time he showed up
>>587568064I'll finish her
Most dishonest heroes list
Nerf Paradox
>>587567813how is Billy that high? Billy was only a thing because of the halloween candies giving a short burst of heal
>>587568153>pick characters have never been more valuable with how OP carries are right now*activates Unstoppable*
>>587568168>yeah let's buff Abrams, what could go wrong? >>587568064Instead of finishing her they will rather make a new hero with the same concept
>>587568248because every frontliner is shit right now except baba whos permabanned
>>587568415Just like how they made her instead of balancing Shiv
>>587568248Yamato died with Radiant Regen nerf
>>587567939Well for one, Yamato and Billy are completely different characters who fill different roles and have different strengths. Their not competing for presence in the meta.As for the actual reason Yamato stopped being picked, both Yamato's tether and her core item Raidant Regen got nerfed, and the tempo playstyle is much weaker on the current batch after the mid boss changes. So Yamato is worse at playing her style of game and her style of game no longer wins.Meanwhile, longer games means Billy's weak early game no longer matters as much, and the nerfs to MoKrill open up a lot of room in the frontliner slot. Billy offers a lot of disruption and opprotunity to harrass while not being a very soul hungry character and also still being strong well in tonlate game. That and Ivy, his ideal partner, being a high priority pick, makes him pretty high priority
Add in drive rush but only for tank characters
Icefrog, release the patch right now nerfing Carbine Paradox.
>>587568153>pick characters have never been more valuable with how OP carries are right now.They are in a weird spot rn imo.As you say a team needs them to not let carries get away with murder but they just fall off too fast.I fucking hate playing Drifter this patch because i can be like 15K ahead of the team and it won't matter past the 30 min mark.
>>587567813>>587568168If the devs seriously balance the game around night shift stats then this game is fucked.The esports faggots and the average player live in two different worlds
>>587568702LukeGAWD...
>>587568945Every moba ever has balanced around esports
>>587568168shiv is the most honest hero
>>587569007And that's why they're never good
>>587568702Add in guest character Zangief who has a drive gauge and a super bar instead of normal abilities with cooldowns
When are we getting a hot female Ixian character? Right now its a sausagefest. We got a Twink, a Bara and... Infernus
>>587569286Apollo and Grave's time travelling daughter trying to hook her parents up so she can exist hero soon
Rework Apollo to be an actual melee frontliner since that's what they clearly wantRework Violet's ultimate to not be something so painfully generic and simultaneously cancerousRework Shiv in to a roaming assassin Rework Celeste in to a spirit carryRework McGinnis to be an M1 carryRemove Baba from the game
>>587569286Cadence soon. Yoshi told me so.
>>587568945Seeing as how valve has been a big supporter of esports in their other games they probably will balance around it. It makes sense though as the top tier truly can push the limits on these characters while lower skilled players could be losing due to skill issues. Some characters though are very strong only at lower skill levels which should also be addressed to make it fun for the average player.
this is what Haze would look like if she was designed for the white male gaze.
>>587568702Moba fags ain't ready for slime
>play valve game>get mad when they pay attention to esportswhats next, you gonna play a capcom game and get mad that there's references to like 20 other capcom games?
Reminder that Rat King is the only honest hero from CNS
>>587567813>celeste picked just oncenobody loves her anymore...
>>587569753>all my heroes are in 0 and 1 (except for billy whos currently being overplayed)fuck it feels good being honest
they should add a pulp hero like a the shadow
>>587569753Anons all told me that Harrow is useless after the nerf
>>587568165i can tell this this pic in full has a, you know...
>>587569398>Rework Violet's ultimate to not be something so painfully generic and simultaneously cancerousThey should give her an entirely different ultHer current ult, among other things, is boring compared to rest of her kit
>>587568945Marvel Rivals balances around the "regular player" and it's unplayable dogshit
>>587570169league balanced around bronzies as much as they do proplay, and they're the biggest MOBA in the world.
>>587569945Warden
>>587570314The game from which the term "pro jail" came from?
>>587569753The real question is why the fuck is no one picking Bebop. You're sincerely telling me the best pick tool in the game is useless to the pros? And somehow Mo's outskill button to? Feels like they are just playing who they want rather than what is actually best.
At how many hours would you all consider someone to be not new to Deadlock?
>"heals are dogshit now bros after the healbane buff">harrow picked and wonnered every gamewhat does this tell us about healbane
>>587570609100
>https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/voicelines/?voiceline=chrono%2Fchrono_ally_viscous_clutch_cube_02.mp3wtf is this
>>587570098A hairy bush pussy? It certainly does
>>587570686what about it
How do you play heros like paradox when you have no I frame movement ability?am I just playing bad or should I actually just buy carpet and unstop?
>be me>new to the game, only about 55 hours played>queueing with a couple friends who are helping me learn>definitely out of my Elo, but hoping I'll learn better in tougher matches>get put as Vindicta>Early in the match I die by jumping onto the zipline and getting stunned>enemy wraith says "we jus jumping on the zipline anytime now gang?">say "I'm new">enemy Mina says "there might be some games on Roblox that are more your speed">my friends defend me and fling some insults in return>seems like we're getting outskilled pretty hard, enemy team is at a 20k soul lead>our Venator starts throwing, begins walking into enemy lines without attacking, claims he is only pretending to be an idiot>Team flaming the Venator, enemy team flaming us, teammates flaming the enemy>50 minutes of this nonsense>we fucking win_>just complete insane screaming on mic in celebration while our team calls the enemy slurs that I shall not repeatThat was exhilarating, fun, stressful, and irritating all at the same time, and I hope it never happens again.
>>587570867Stamina mastery + Counterspell
>>587571008I buy that and still get slopped
>>587570867carbine gives 99999 move speedfor i frames counterspell eshift unstop the usual
>>587570512am I the only one here who doesn't like it when their balls get fondled during sex? I feel like I am getting molested when my gf does this to me
>>587571067Probably a positioning issue in that case
Game Theory: Warden is a member of Paradox >Paradox makes constant time puns >Warden says "It's TIME to change the world"
He has really pretty eyes
I FUCKING HATE GEIST!!!!!!!!!!
WHY IS NO ONE PICKING VIOLET ANYMORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>587571717nerfednow shes only good for SFM porn (getting dicked down by futa geist)
>>587563821You only use dome if you're going full support and buying items to expand its area for free healing during team-fights, that way you won't fuck up your own team (probably)If you're using the basic dome then don't even bother, it's literally trolling
>>587572172this but knotted by futa silver
Does anybody have a copy of the Clown Celeste mod from PinkCrackShot?He took down all of his mods because of "general community attitude" and now expects people to pay $4.50 for it.
>>587572331wait for someone to post it on pawchive dot pw
>>587572331Here you go, thanks to an anon from a previous thread: https://u.pone.rs/lbocwuyc.vpkMay need to rename it to "pak01_dir.vpk". I don't know how these mods work; I just have them installed.
>>587569753>all of my characters always end up on top pick and ban listsam i just a meta slave?
>>587567078It's funny how they balanced him based off the old map once he was taken out back raped, and forgotten. They haven't done anything to help him out for the new map. His kidnapping is worthless on the new map along with the midboss changes. I would expect some sort of buffs to him soon but I highly doubt it.
>>587572495>>587572557Didn't know they had a Kemono variant for mods.https://pawchive.pw/patreon/user/68695864/post/171336132Thanks Mates
I can't tell if people are sarcastic when they ping "good job"
>>587572675Oh, nice. Last time I checked, this page was basically empty.
>>587572675its just a kemono fork because kemono isnt updated anymore
>>587572172>>587572324Futa fags get the rope all the same as trannies.
>>587572762Ah, explains why I haven't seen any new stuff on there.>>587572784Ropes of cum I hope
is it always worth it to die for a walker?
why are green items utterly useless when you're behind yet fucking insanely powerful when you're up?
>>587572901every singletimethe ONLY gamestate that dying for walker isn't worth is some fucked up world where you're the last one alive post 40+ minutes and they have a lane on your base. Then you should stay back but any other time kill yourself for that walker
>>587572901generally, as long as it's not some retarded bullshit like feeding a solo kill or all of you dying for it
>>587573190>dynamo why did you push green? they're doing mid AND YOU HAVE ULT>Heh you don't understand my macro genius
>>587572901The general rule of thumb is>Dying for a walker pre-20 minutesAlways worth it>Dying for a walker but your team is retarded and your the only smart oneRisky>Dying for a walker 30+ minutes in the gameNot worth it unless you somehow get your team to agree to snowball while you're dead.
>>587573346now i know you're fucking shitlo because you think mid is more important than walker.
>>587572901Killing a walker>3675 souls (75% distributed with team, 25% for the ones who damaged it in the last 20 seconds)>enemy losses resistances around it (15% Bullet and 15% Spirit Resistance)>one extra item slot>nothing stopping troopers from attacking the base towers anymorev/sYou dying>asumming no unsecured bag, 200 souls + 50 per min, capped at 2200 (40 min)Make the math yourself
>>587573346it's the other players fault for not being there in dynamo's place, forcing him to be the one to get the desperately needed slots
>>587572675>heard that the footstep sounds might be broken>they work>It's the Squidward footstep sound
Nothing like playing a game where 1 person is AFK for a good chunk of the match and the other 4 have done nothing but push green for the last 30 minutes (the yellow guardian is still alive somehow).
can they please just rework mirage already, I love his design and VA but holy fuck his kit is so lame and has no weight at all.
>>587573997His kit having no weight is secretly based because it makes people think he's weaker than he is. It's so subdued and visually flaccid that they don't realize they're about to be nuked for a gorillion HP while being eaten alive by beetles. Genuinely, if they kept him identical but just made his VFX super flashy people would think he was stronger. If his effects were more flashy people might cotton on to dispelling his mark (which fully cucks his damage).
>>587573997You've said enoughNerf Sinclair
>play tanks>almost every single death in the past 3 games (all losses) has been from me trying to save someone and them abandoning me or my team perma brawling, me joining, and them abandoning right after>no one knows how to just push a wave and then go fight>no one knows how to do literally anything unless I've done half the enemy's hp for them to clear up>everyone wants to fight everywhere but an objective>it's just an endless stream of me being lane janny, feeling good about myself for a single second, and then dying for some retardI'm so fucking tired
>>587573997Just flank bro
Lash sex
>>587572172>>587571717It's like you guys live in your own tinni-tiny cuckshed world built on delusions and cope
seven needs a low cooldown free escape ability to be like the other m1 carries, it just isn't fair! and venator isn't an m1 carry at all honestly. where's his free passive damage? where's his free escape? can he truly be called an m1 carry without these integral parts of a true carries kit according to yoshi?
i think paige should've been an occult obsessed weirdo instead of some booktok slut.
what does your porn addict picture have to do with your post
>>587574315I had a match the other day where>playing Victor>pushing down blue cautiously>get jumped by a couple of people, eat some CCs>whatever, just Fleetfoot, Jumpstart, and break their ankles by diving down towards midboss>got out with like 300 HP but I wasn't really worried, still had ult>look back and see that Apollo (who was fucking frying their team up to this point) just came out of nowhere to try to "save" me>gets smeared instantly>gets mad at me in comms for letting him die>just hit him with "Thanks!"I felt bad but I had no fucking clue he was going to try to jump in or that he was even near mid. I feel like he should have trusted me to escape or just let me die rather than risk himself.We both ended the game at like 14/3 so whatever, it was just funny because he instantly flamed me for it.
>Bomb Geist is free elo potion bro>Play Bomb Geist>Chunk some really hard with my bomb>My team never follow up the damageI guess it's good when I get to a good rank
>>587574792>I feel like he should have trusted me to escape or just let me dieI do half the time but the problem is here's 5 potential retards on the team and everyone loves to overextend, fight 1v1/1v2, etc. Ignoring some retard once is one thing. Do it ten times and you've lost the game because that's 20k souls for their team
will shiv ever be meaningfully nerfed?
wraith is seriously not that overpowered compared to the other m1 carries I'm not even shitposting anymore all the m1 carries are too strong you just think wraith is uniquely OP because streamers tell you to believe that. even looking at the win rates you're all obsessed with shows this. they could remove wraith entirely and you'd all go on bitching about another m1gger because your issue is actually with the whole subrole and not just one hero but you're not ready for this conversation yet
>>587575012Popular characters will never be meaningfully nerfed
>>587563096even 2 weeks ago this ugly fuck's list was awful lmao
>>587575220I believe she is uniquelly OP because she can escape any gank with her 2 meanwhile any Venator overextending gets his ass fucked
>>587574969>>587574969Yeah, if your team has proven to be retarded then you can't really trust them to get out or to stick in the fight when it's winnable, at least if you're not comming and telling them to. It's just a skill to know when you can save it or when you're trading your life for theirs (or turning one death into two deaths). One person on a team can only do so much to babysit.
>>587575220Wraith is strong at literally all points of the game, has an insane escape, and can easily kill most characters 1v1In a game where most characters have a period of weakness, she's retarded busted. Return her weak early and you might have a point
>>587575220she is uniquely op because he M1 has unlimited ammo, and half her damage comes from insane card nukes. a max shield rat king with fortitude, plated, spirit resist, bullet resist, juggernaut, and return fire is still going to get melted in around 5 seconds from a wraith at 40+k
>dreamt last night that I was seven>ulted and teamwiped the enemy>afterwards had sex with the enemy vindictaI don't play Seven or Vindicta. Not sure what to make of this.
leech beckons for me, I dream of leech, I buy leech all the time, leech is my favorite green item. Is this bad
>>587575314wrong
>>587575741hey lomein! You shouldnt use a facecam. you are actually hideous!
I can't stop spamming heavy melee
>>587575878Ever since 2 or 3 patches ago I'm unable to parry people on reaction. I press the button, they go through. Basically every time. Meanwhile everyone seems to parry me with 100% successEven bought Fleetfoot earlier and people who were parrying me perfectly stopped parrying when I started melee canceling
>>587575804you are a brick shitter and poor btw
Is it extremely hard to press Bebop's hook? These fucking troglodytes refuse to hook at any stage of the game. If I hop on a normal DOTA game and there's an instalock Pudge, you can bet that nigger will be hiding in the fog looking for hooks all game all day long and he'll have more value than your standard Bebop downie. What the fuck is up with Bebop players in this game?
i hope they straight up add someone from neon prime into deadlock. different dimensions exist in both universes, it would also allow valve to be lazy and say the remaining neon prime assets were from the not!neon prime dimension.
>>587576003Parries/bluetooth melees have been fucked since CNS update. Shit's insanely inconsistent.>>587576159Your Bebop wants to be a veil walker stealth bomber Bebop. Enemy Bebop is a fuckin longshore angler
>>587576003I got parried while the enemy was moving after the parry animation was over. I think the servers have been really fucky lately.
>>587575370this is true for every single m1 carry except venator and seven lol its not unique to wraith at all>>587575470>wraith is strong at all points of the gamejust not true. bottom 10 for damage in lane at top 1% and all ranks>has an insane escapenot unique to wraith>can easily kill most characters 1v1this is a defining feature of m1 carries lmao>>587575556why don't you just buy disarming hex then?
>>587576379Premium grade retarded cope
>>587576535You have no argument and I accept your concession.
>>587567116First International was held during Dota 2’s early beta phase.
>>587576379>why don't you just buy disarming hex then?dispel
>>587576774dota was kind of a finished game though because it's just a wc3 custom map
>>587576797your curse, sir? if you can't tank the damage turn it off.
>>587576159This game has an extra dimension, dumb Dotard, of course hooks are infinitely easier to dodge here
did I just imagine that cursed relic didn't use to have a damage penalty?
>>587577043It didn’t, it was tacked on when everyone was running curse
can Dynamo have sex? I mean, he can eat food as he has a voice line saying he likes eating the pie his wife makes him so he has a stomach. if he has a stomach then he should have a body right?
>>587577264*kills literal child who wants to go home to his family so he can have sex*I GUESS MORALITY IS SUBJECTIVE
What do I as harrow if my team gets turned to ashes before I can shoot two syringes
ITS MY TIME*dies*
>>587577580call them the N word and throw yourself to the enemy for a full wipe
>>587577580type nigger nigger nigger into all chat and then abandon the match
>>587576902If a character require multiple people on your team to buy curse, it's probably not a bad character.
>>587576902unstoppable
>>587577850I think you need to re-read all my posts (very carefully this time) if you think I'm saying wraith is a bad hero
why are solomon's sound effects so fucking loud
>start playing a little TOO good>steamchip in teammates' brains activate and lobotomizes all of them>lose what should've been an easy win3 games in a row of this shit now
if afterburn is going to deal so much damage infernus's gun should be actual dogshit like mina's. but despite what downplayers desperately want you to believe, its actually not terrible
kissing graves on her big fugly nose
>>587562765Honest questionWhat is the counterplay to Kelvin beam buildI have tried stacking spirit resist I have tried buying knockdown or something to stun him (he just dispels lol) I cant run anyway because even if I play a character like shiv with 10 million built-in dashes he still runs me down because he slowing hexes me if I survive beam and try to chase him he just fucks off with his path that he can do infinitely late game or something I guess??????The only time I have won against this faggot is because he misplays and gets raped by some aoe slop ult while doing rift or some shit Like genuinely help me, there has to be something I can do for this
>>587578642>"What is the counterplay to Kelvin beam build"blowing your rape whistle and hoping someone hears
>>587578557yeah i can agree with this. this is a sensible post.
>>587574694this character is forever associated with precum fetish
>>587578642the counterplay is waiting for a streamer to cry about it so the devs rethink giving kelvin bebop ult but 50% weaker on a 10 second cooldown with double boundless spirit on his 2
>4 wins>9 lossesi'm tired bros I really am
>>587563096Never trust pro tier lists because they are either heavily biased because the pro in question is a retard or heavily biased towards organized pro play which might as well be an entirely different game from queueing at any rank even eternus Silver was never good. When she came out she was potential woman, as in she has potential to snowball into teamwipes but she heavily relies on her team enabling her. She is cucked by cc or kiting of any kind of which a huge amount of the cast is currently very capable of doingShe needs a rework. A full melee ult works in a normal moba, but just not for a shooter. I dunno how they would change it while keeping her identity as a werewolf, but I feel like if Apollo released first he would have been full melee and Silver's ult would shoot claw waves like she's fucking wolf woods from megaman star force
In the last month in Eternus, Graves has had a positive winrate
>>587567813Now SURELY Yoshi will nerf the fuck out of Wraith right? MAYBE he'll realize that giving a character the best most spammable nuke in the game, the best m1 steroid in the game, the best escape in the game, and an ult that lets you save 6400 souls and an item slot not buying curse is maybe possibly kinda broken.
>>587567785replace paige with graves
ankle weights in every fucking game man
>>587567813Okay yoshi you can buff venator now, and replace his dogshit beartraps while you're at it please
>>587567813>NiggaShit found out how OP Wraith is>Most banned hero Nerfs incoming
>>587578954>they are either heavily biasedunlike silverfags who will kvetch and scream about their character being bottom 1 F tier every thread. you are not biased and your essay that could be summed up as "I'm mad that this tier list put her in B" proves it
>>587578792>50% weakerIts actually 100% stronger because you can hit people with arctic beam while you cant hit people with hyperbeam (1 sideways dash and bebop's restricted turn speed makes you invincible to hyperbeam)
>>587578982wraith has been reworked like 20 times they just dont know what to do with herjust fucking delete her from the game until they have something figured out
>>587579193actually I do feel that B is a good spot for hershe's definitely dogshit for many reasons but I think the primary one is the rest of the cast is better or just counters her entirely
>>587579145>bans the character that requires aiming up>also bans the characters that aim upwhy
Nobody likes M1ggers
>>587579214>remove infinite ammo HOLY SHIT LOOK AT THAT! Wraith players now have to actually slide and aim good and don't instantly refill their cards anymore!
>>587574429>brick SEAjeet thinks anyone cares
>>587567078he's pretty shit now, he's a walking ultimate and little else
>>587567813>rem will never be buffed in my pubs because of profags
Psst, don't leake this but the secret SSS tier build on Silver is to go Shadow Weave and all the punch items.
I will now play Mo and Krillhttps://files.catbox.moe/qy2ah4.png
how it feels 2 play warden...
>Lost 2 games because my team never wants to go mid boss>The other team just went there and did while all of us were aliveAlso, holy fuck that Shiv one-shot build is so fucking annoying
>>587567423>Lash>Ivy>Seven>no knockdown against that
What's a good hero for an aimlet newbab? I'm only familiar with mobas
>>587579897Victor
>>587579897GravesLiterally no aiming required
>>587579897THIS IS A SHOOTER GAMELEARN TO FUCKING SHOOTADAPT TO THE FUCKING GAME
>>587579897Graces, Abrams, McGinnis, Kelvin, Paige, Victor are all pretty forgiving.
>>587570512Uhhhh what's the sauce???
>>587579897Violet's got a pretty low skill floor and her 1 can be aimed after firing and has a small-ish aoe, so you can get by without particularly great aim. Alongside >>587580121 list
>>587580189Deadlock
Every time Rem was picked in nightshift, he farmed his own jungle's sinners.It makes sense since he's so fast at it and can multitask, while typical sinner punchers are free to gather souls elsewhere.Therefore I will start taking my own sinners too, fuck anyone who complains.
Girls kissing girls
>>587580478Okay but if you die you get raped
whats stopping me from baiting a dispel with decay, and then putting 6 knives in someone as shiv
>>587580578I get raped either way.
>>587580568they will become best friends and lovers after the ritual :)
>>587579816think this falls under metayou know how sometimes it can feel harder to play against a complete novice/totally experienced player than a fellow intermediate or expert player, because they're completely unpredictable?this kinda seems like the opposite case. where the line is so played out and so predictable that neither party bothers actually playing it. something like that
really liking where apollo is now, his whole kit just flows together mechanically and flavorwise in a way it never has before and he's a based hybrid character now instead of a dirty green and purple weed smoker
>>587567939billy couldnt survive in fights but now that he can he can actually play tank role in high elo
>>587580814show build
>>587571717i do this
what do you think of haze players?
>>587579897Anyone except Violet
>>587580897the general idea is to melee/gun early and pivot to spirit when his scaling/people buying dispel magic means you can't bully people with it as easily (I say, getting tons of melees end game)
>>587581080subhumans
>>587581080Necessary evil.
>>587581080weirdly mostly chill but i'm not europeanit's mostly trans and/or furry beamers
>>587581128>crushing fists>trophy>alch fireman, frog rank seems fun you can just build whatever and win
Give one (1) argument against Diviners Kevlar on Shiv
what's the reward for getting a high rank in deadlock?
>load in>seven types in chat "farming until 30 minutes good luck">proceeds to int the entire match pre-30 minutes>around minute 32 "yea this is a loss open and move on" I had full body chills knowing I was amongst a god.
>>587581080Fucking hate em cus that usually means im not on haze.
>>587581381according to statlocker this means I'm in the top 80% percentile so clearly I'm pretty good, a full 12 ranks over frog at least.>crushingI almost never buy it, it's just there if I feel like I do. he gets 3 stacks every time he parries you so it's not nothing>alc firewith the new parry he gets to force you to stand in it while getting free melee/headshots with some of the highest bullet damage in the game, so something that does that, gets me gun 4.6, a nice +10 spirit and lets me kick towers to death if I happen to be split pushing is real convenient>trophyI wanna be in every fight parrying people and suddenly healing 50% in 2s, so it's a natural buy for a character with meh farming that likes ranges to get money/sprint/range. in my last game it made me 4500 so effectively an extra 4800 upgrade t4.
the amount of soloults people will waste on you in peelow if you play haze is insane.
>>587581579You get to lecture people on the anonymous image board, 4chan.
>>587581080they actively make the game less enjoyable be it when they're on the enemy team or on my team
>>587582045I want stats to be more in depth, so I can know how many times I've been solo Dynamo ulted in my career
>even r*ddit is complaining about aoeslop nowyour move yoshit
>>587580609>Shiv tries this on me>I don't even have Dispel>just eat the Decay and knives>solve the problem by just killing him with my bare handsYou don't have to consent to Shiv killing you. Just say no.
>>587582413Mega buff the heroes with shit aoe like Silver
>>587582413Aoeslop is a symptom of the bigger problem of heroes just being health blobs that must deal more damage to wipe out the other blobs, which heavily favors tanky heroes that can dish out more damage in an area. There's no real space for tactics and individually important plays.
How do I learn and improve genral schmoovement?
>>587567813This meta makes way more sense than the last few, I guess c9 entering made everyone lock in
>>587582967oh i thought the issue was that aoe spells cover your entire fucking screen on a low cooldownwhile also dealing too much damage like you said
Stop playing Rem in my fucking games you chuds. You are just a soul piñata for the enemy.Pick Paige, Kelvin, Dynamo or even the Nurse. But stop playing the permanent victim (under 45% winrate).Every game I have a retarded Rem on my team with zero impact, most souls and dropping 12k damage and 12k healing.
>>587583047Rem would have a 58% winrate like I do if people played pillowmaxx rather than thinking they can hard support in pubs.
>>587583114But do you retard understand that 2 of your 4 skills are worthless in combat, especially 1v1. And your pillow does less damage than other aoe sloppers. Just play fucking spirit Geist or full damage Paige.
>>587583258Huh? Honestly your post makes no sense and I don't feel like explaining the basic concepts of hero abilities.
>>587581128The build is similar to my own, but I'd critique some things:>Build up has delayed spikesApollo has very clear early game spikes. I know there are different builds for him, I personally abuse the fact that his 2 at base value already is busted, so I still go 3 maxing. Either way I think you should hit your gun or spirit spike at 6,6k>Alch fireThis item item ia a bit questionable. I think you should consider buying Hunter's Aura for your team if no one else is.>Late gritEither get this item in lanr or not at all>Spirit LifestealYour 2 and 3 are already overloaded with lifesteal stats. I don't think this is a good buy compared to getting a real defensive. You could be getting a barrier earlier and pick up extra stamina for the spike.>NitpicksYou got some jank build up. Spirit lifesteal before grit "hangs" 800 souls that don't go into hitting a spike. Swapping the order would he smoother. Likewise, CC->Melee Charge->Alch Fire hangs 800 of value. I also think you delay your spirit spike too much.
To anybody knowing the difference between Dota2 and LoL, What will Riot's Deadlock ripoff be like?
>>587583749Worked on for a decade, released with 6 heroes then immediately abandoned.
>>587583749it won'triot is in shambles
>>587581080for some reason every time there's one in my game it's a based dogfucker(it's me I'm the haze player in my game)
>>587583749After all their recent flops they're stopping everything that isn't ruining league further
>>587583749could be decent. tft turned out way better than underlords and have been playing it for 4+ years now
>>587583504I appreciate the tips. I personally value smashing into someone with -50 melee resist + melee charge to really fuck with people in lane, it's way more burst damage then 3 maxing for the same investment and harder to defeat by just walking back to tower as I start charging up. it's true the spirit spike is a pretty late pivot, but I just find the scaling tends to work out better when I played it this way instead of the other way around, but idk.>spirit lifestealI can see the argument but I don't find it's too much healing at all, as they exist to do different things. 2 and 3 don't work on camps or waves, and they mostly only work on 1 or 0 people (if they bait or dispel my parry, now I have way less healing without a lifesteal item), in a build where I'm often charging directly into the thick of a teamfight to kick someone in the ribs really hard having an extra source of lifesteal for all my stray aoes and actives going off is giving me a lot more value for 1 slot then another t2 defensive that only works on 1 thing. and then later it can build into overflow which turns my gun 4.6 into a 11.2 invest for only 4800 and gives you amazing stats that synergize with every part of his kit.>weird timingsyou make a great point about grit before lifesteal, I have that to finish my 4.6 instead of extra stam because around when I get torment/boundless I sell melee lifesteal/close quarters for slots if needed, which smooths out the gun invest and drops me down 800 on health that I then pump up again with another 800 for reactive barrier, which is a mandatory item on apollo
How would Deadlock change if there was a giant flying skeleton that zooms around the planet and crushes one random person with his no cooldown abilities every minute? He's called Deadman Danny and he's always slightly faster than you.
>>587583817>>587584027They are definitely betting their future on a Deadlock ripoff come on, don't you know how videogames industry works?
>>587583504alc fire >>> hunters aura unless you're someone like drifter or calico that exclusively wants to 1v1 in a back alley. in a teamfight it's only -10 shred, which alc fire starts at and only goes up with spirit scaling while also doing damage.esp on someone like apollo that wants boundless, it's doing more for you less often, which is fine when it's an item that exists to enable burst damage
aaaaaand they took out vindicta
>>587584096They fired the person responsible for TFT not being dogshit
why can't these subhuman russians just understand 1 goddamn thingjust push the fucking lanes BEFORE fighting holy shitthat's literally all that matters in the gameyou can win 99% of games by doing this, unironicallyonly fight when lanes are pushingIt is LITERALLY that fucking simple
Check out what the Doorman bought!
>>587581080I think they're pretty good!
Old supports:>Dynamo has teleport>Ivy can turn into a stone and fly>Paige has a shield, a root and a legion of horses that can heal and stun>Kelvin can fly, slow people, heal and can pop a dome that blocks everything and gives a buff to healing>Viscous is greennew support:>Harrow who can heal herself by leeches but only if the leech sucks the blood of the enemy if not sorry, cheat death but doesn't cheat any death and her ult that has a 3 years cooldownhow can /dlg/ defend this? give Nurse Harrow an escape instead of being a pure heal and ult bot
>>587584497>plays online pvp game>NOOOO YOU HAVE TO KILL NPCS REEEEE
>>587570314It's also the worst one. What's your point, popular = good?
>Burst>Sustain>Mobility>Displacement>Free Spirit theftHow is Baba balanced?
>>587584623Even with an escape she'd still be shit. As soon as they made her ult not completely bonkers retarded, she became completely fucking useless.
>>587584786She isn't. She's banned constantly for a reason.
>>587584786I forgot to mention a braindead Ult with massive range.
>cheater in every game now>my 75% crit rate is totally legit>valve did nothing in tf2 and cswell this game is done for i guess
>>587584497Well why didn't you push the lanes when others were fighting? They fight, you push lanes, sounds simple enough to me. Try to be a better team player next time. I know it's impossible for EUoids, since you people despise all your neighbors even inside EU itself, but you should at least try to act like a human being sometimes.
this aimbot is an elo potion, already climbed to oracle
i need a mod that gradually damages the enemies armor when they take damage
There should only be 10 item slots
26 item slots are needed at this point
What does Silver's underboob sweat smells like?
>>587586047cheese
>queue up>early 30k deficit because the other lanes int>claw our way to 181k vs 185k>teammate disconnects and abandonsthe government should cull the moba community
>>587586047Salty bags of wine which, funnily enough, are referred to here as goon bags
free lunalux, she doesn't deserve a chatbanalso fuck new apollo holy fuck
>>587586186Strongest hero in loreWeakest in gameSuch is the curse of Silver
>>587586186People always forget about Talon when they talk about most powerful Deadlock characters. Bro is THE monster hunter and could probably merk everyone besides Doorman and maybe Drifter. He'd turn Silver into a dart board
>Do amazing on Graves>Lose>Do meh on Graves>Win???????????
>>587586186Who?
>>587586435it's almost like there's 5 other heroes on your team and 6 heroes on the enemy team who have some input on the outcome of a match, innit
>>587584457I mean, Apollo can 100% 1v1 someone in a back alley with the melee build. As for Hunter's Aura, you usually want at least one carrier in each team. If your team doesn't have another frontliner who is already L->R:ing, Apollo is a decent enough carrier for it.
>>587586458calico.
>>587586435>Do amazing on Silver>Lose>Do meh on Silver>Lose
>>587586458>Who?
>>587586385he's old and washed up and a failure
>>587586567>don't get fed on silver>be completely useless>lose>get fed on silver>hero doesn't do anything that wins games>end up having no real impact>be completely useless>losehuh what a strong hero maybe not S++++ tier anymore but at least A+ maybe even S tier and if you pretend anyone has ever said shes S+++ tier youre forcing an agenda and trying to rewrite history ok
>>587586567yeppers
>>587586186>>587586584>mention fashion once>is now automatically classed as gayshould've kept his mouth shut
What's the best role to carry in low elo?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6P7ToRLLI-0Aura
>>587586712He was already setting people's gaydars off with the whole Kelvin thing and his dialogue with Dynamo
>>587562765I am really tired of the movement tranny slop in this gameI think this game's peak of mobility was just dash jumping, everything they have added since from shit like wall jumps to corner boosts to holliday bounce pads, celeste low gravity, it's all so fucking cringeWorst of all is faggots acting like characters that make the movement even easier like holliday celeste etc. aren't actively a detriment to the game's health
>>587585030where can you view someone's critical rate?I tried to gauge if someone was cheating before, best I could surmise was a Holliday who had more damage from crits than normal gun damage
>>587586773>vomits on the screen so you can't see shit>cranks up the bass so you can't hear shit>bruh aura ong fr
>>587586958you can use statlocker
>>587586479Why cant my team get on my level
>>587586716Frontline. Abrams specifically.
>>587586385If he's so strong, why is his family dead? KWAB Talon
>>587583030things that need to change:>all aoe damage lowered across the board>single target damage increased to compensate>lower the damage of characters that are naturally incredibly tanky/difficult to kill (ie viktor) the problem with the game right now is so many people can have their cake and eat it too. Everything should have a tradeoff. If you build barely any damage items and all tanky items you should do piss damage, if you build all damage items and no tanky items you should die very very quickly >>587583047more people need to realize echo shard full heal based Rem is actually fucking insane
>>587586716Anything that can clean camps fast. Low elo don't farm much, you can easily win games by getting ahead in souls.
Wow!
>>587586385Everybody has amnesia and forgot that Wesley is Him.Grey Talon is held back by his age so he's not at his peak, but I think he'd still absolutely fucking fold Drifter, specifically, in a fight. Same with Venator having a force multiplier against Drifter in particular. That's why Drifter likes them so much, because they're such a legitimate challenge. Silver gets overrated in the power scaling because she went toe-to-toe with Shiv and Drifter at the same time, but it was probably more of a messy three-way brawl (which she lost and had back-up in most likely). She'd probably get her ass whooped by Shiv and Drifter one-on-one, and I don't even think Shiv is that hardcore compared to some other people. Like, he's outclassed by Venator for sure, probably an even match with Calico, etc.GT just needs his visual rework to get the respect he deserves.
>>587583114That’s his worst build tho
>>587587313Shiv is according to Grey Talon the eight strongest person the old man would rely on. We don't know how Calico or Venator ranks here, though I'd personally guess Calico is not included since she is a turncoat, while Venator might have Shiv beat through seniority.
>>587587275is valve legit waiting on a new banwave or something I have so many of these cheating faggots in every game and I have never once seen them get turned into a frog
>>587586121>second game>second teammate going afkWHAT IS HAPPENING FUCK
>>587567813>thinking pro lists matter AT ALL in casual playyou have been indoctrinated by Riot's casual-first pro play scene bullshit and it shows
>>587587479Shiv is GT's protege, so that says a lot. The eighth thing isn't just strength, and I assume the exact number was kind of chosen as a joke (because it follows the top 5 thing), but I'd imagine it's just like Venator and the senior members of the Baxter Society. There's probably some fucking gigachads in the Venators and the society that just aren't interested in the ritual.
>>587587687valve isn't going to ban anyone, there is no active cheat detection right now and if you have any hope of it ever happening please tell me how good valve does with cs2
>>587587241That's what I am doing, but it has been a struggle since my team constantly fights and the enemy ends up snowballing and getting tons of objectives if I stay in a side line farming.
>>587587275It's kinda crazy that OW has barely any cheaters. It's going to be sad if this game ends up infested with cheaters like CS.
>>587586121>>587587704idk why people crash out like this when the game has very very generous comeback mechanicsI legitimately think the only way you can't come back is if the enemy team early on takes all three walkers and never lets you take any of theirs, because souls don't mean shit if you don't have the slots for them That and/or if you have at least like 2 moronic mongoloids going like 0/10 and doing nothing but afk farming all game because that's already a 4v6 and you will not win
>Silver picked twice in nightshit>loses twice>Goober (a retarded Silver upplayer) picks Silver>these are his statsReminder that there's people that take these retards seriously
>>587586121just queued as drifterwas having a spicy ass lane against an apollo and shiv having the time of my life>disconnectactual subhumans
I’m new but I’m winning like 90% of my standard games. Like I won a 4v5 there and it wasn’t that hard. Do people not pick up on how the lane stuff works even after 400+ hours
>>587587791then this game will fucking die because the population will be steadily filled by more and more cheaters until they drive out everyone else who is playing legiteither that or just bite the bullet and remove headshot damage and the parry system.
>>587588053shes so op though silver mains just cry all the time ok
>>587588053Hmmm, that seems OP to me, we'll fix it in next patch.- Yoshi
>>587587757Silver is actually very interesting too. Prime Silver in wolf form can probably take on Drifter, but not Drifter and Shiv together. I don't think we are actually playing prime Silver in the ritual though, because she is an alcoholic mess that doesn't apply herself (even her reason to participate is halfassed).A Silver who wasn't lowkey depressed and who actually trained could probably tear through a large chunk of the cast though.
>>587587949yeah but the games you win 5v6 are the ones where a hitler champ like viktor in your team had an early lead, not ones with a 30k deficitit's NOT FUN to get farmed by a fed drifter for 30 minutes in a delusional hope that you win three 5v6 fights in a row to end the game in your favor. that happens in 1/50 games and in the other you serve as sadistic entertainment for the enemies.
>>587588161Thank you Yoshi, be sure to throw in some Wraith and Victor buffs in the patch too, great job as always by the way
>>587588053The popular Silver build is ass. It relies too much on just outgunning people, but in any teamfight you just get shut down.Once people start building Shadow Weave on her so they can offangle and instaproc wolf form, she will probs have her Warden/Geist moment.
>>587588053anything silver does is outclassed by like 10 different heroes >gun carry/assassindrifter, haze, wraith, etc.>tanky frontline melee brawlerabrams, billy, shiv, mo, etc.and they require a fraction of the souls to do it for a fraction of the effortthere is no reason to pick silver over any of the alternatives unless you like playing as her/onetrick her, which by that point you have resolved yourself to the character's limits
>>587587830Prolly worth joining the team deathmatch if you got a decent advantage going. I'm speaking strictly from my experience on Haze in standards, as long as I managed to get the game going long enough to get my core IV's, I could turn the tables even if I lost the lane phase and had a good deal of unfortunate ganks on me.
>>587588263She's always been best built as an assassin/pick hero, now she's just dogshit and weak as fuck at everything
>>587588053>she lost another one after that to make her 0-5poor sad dog...
Baba vs Haze in starting lane feels fucking miserable to play
>>587588227viktor is honestly the only one where this is true. If viktor is the only problem on the enemy team, it is very hard to actually win against him unless he supremely fucks up multiple times because he is too tanky and does too much damageyou NEED everyone on the team stacking antiheal, you NEED to curse him, you NEED to cc him, and you need to do it 2-3 times and in the time you spent dealing with him, his team has had free reign to do whatever the fuck they want and most of the time it's just cleaning up at least with a drifter, you can curse, disarming hex him, metal skin, etc. and then focus him down as long as you aren't going out alone to get raped by him in the jungle
How old is Shiv meant to be anyway? The whole master and student shit between him and Grey Talon feels off when he looks and sounds like he does. It's like if Daniel from Karate Kid was a 40 year old chain smoker with 2 kids and a 9-5 job
>>587588362The Shadow Weave buff is really good on her. Shadow Weave + Spirit Snatch lets her absolutely dunk a target for an easy wolf form.I personally lean even heavier into the melee so I can dunk on my pubs, but I'm pretty sure that if you just build something simple like >resto shot, cc, mystic punch, shadow weave, spirit snatcherYou can just shadow weave into bootkick for stupid damage because of all the free spirit you are getting
>>587588547>you need basic point and click counterplaywoah
>hitler vs hitler feels miserableyeah nigga
>left lane died 10+ times in lane>4 out of my 5 teammates are 10 deaths or more>keep constantly pinging rift but nobody responds>60k soul difference by the end of the gamesooooo was there literally anything I could have done to win that shit or are some games just mandatory losses?
>>587588324Yea, my main point is that certain nightshift/eternus6 players claim that she's super strong but in a competitive environment with coordination she falls flat, outcomes consistently prove thisGoober in particular is a massive Silver upplayer and he fucking sucks at her
>>587588362>>587588570okay but what do you do in teamfights then
>>587588669this is because goober got raped by silver several times when she came out and he's a child so he cannot comprehend learning a matchup so he has defaulted into believing she is stronger than she is you see this shit all the time in hero shooters and mobas, new character releases, community whines because they dont know how to fight them yet, gets character nerfed into oblivionor community whines that they are too weak (Danny) because they dont know how to play them yet, and gets them ludicrously buffed
>Apollo>Called a fencer>No fence>Carries a swordWhat retard designed this?
>>587588659if you have multiple people dying that much and never working together it's just a loss. You cannot force retards to do something. Just take it on the chin and move on
>>587579897Abrams and Billy do require a bit of aim, but they are frontliners and really like using their melee a lot
>>587588698Wrap aroundAssassinate a backlinerWolf outIf there are more backliners that you can beat up run at themIf multiple people turn on you use wolf to disengage, then turn once whoever was distracted by you starts splitting and going back to the main fightYou're an assassin and a distraction
>>587588698You shadow weave->2->1->3 their Paige and then that insta procs your wolf form and you can actually perform your role as an offtank.Shadow Weave isn't just to gank, it is to guarantee an ult proccing combo right at the start of a fight.
>>587588619One hitler is so overwhelming dominant even if you stack bullet resist
>>587588548He's a pure young boy looking to prove himself.
>>587588824Yea if I remember correctly Silver was out for about 2 days before they started the nerf barrage against her, they did not let the community or the "pro" scene adapt to her at allNow it's been months and most of the cerebral players know how to play against Silver so she's not just nerfed but strategies against her are common knowledge.I wonder if they were trying to avoid that happening with the CNS heroes because they were way slower at patching them
It's really hard to counter people who are good at punching>Parry too early and they whiff>Try to wait until they're close to connecting>You still take damage because the netcode isn't that good
im playing gary talon with full spirit because i just want to hit sick arrows but everyone calls me useless am i doing something wrong i kinda enjoy playing like that
>no emergency baba nerf>yoshi MIA for a weekit's over
bebop's bullet resistance should scale with spirit
>>587588548He's based off greasers so I'd say maybe 24
>>587589015Funny thing is that the few times silver manages to pop off no one bothers buying any of the plentiful counter items for her because deep down everyone knows the hero is fundamentally shit and not worth counteringIf they buff her her winrate won't increase as people will just start buying counter items
>>587588547Victor is like the most easily-countered hard carry. He pubstomps because people in standard and low rank aren't able to coordinate countering a carry and when he's not countered he's just going to eat your team. If you don't counter Wraith you can still just fucking shoot her to death so you might win in that regard. If you don't counter Victor he'll just get back up when you shoot him and then kick your ass. Wraith is way stronger than Victor, but she just doesn't take advantage of uncoordinated teams as much. Literally any fucking hex other than disarming will ruin him. Slow, Curse, Silence, Focus Lens, whatever. Just walk away from him. Just Spirit Burn him. Just hit him with Silencer. He's also the most easily kneecapped because he has such a weak laning phase and early game, so you can fuck him early to try to keep him behind as long as possible.
>>587589079Yoshi is playing WoW Forever like everyone else
fat ivy
Help me square the circle that is McGinnis>bricklo players say she’s trash>never picked outside high elo>every pro has her in A or S tier>0 bans 0 picks in pro league>generally feels super counterable with her weak turrets and lack of mobilitywhat makes her so ”good”? i don’t see itshe is far less oppressive for area denial compared to graves or mirage, and she has way less teamfight power compared to a true spirit nuker like pocket or whatnotso why is she seen as so good?
>>587588979>the one counter to baba (gun damage) actually counters hersay it ain't soshould have asked to swap
>3 games in a row >enemy team has a bomb geist>they sell the game 0/15+ deathsgoddamn
>>587589373>she is far less oppressive for area denial compared to graves or miragethings bricks say
>Reddit is still trying to cry Danny out of the game because, well... he's ANNOYING!!!!!I hope valve never listens to these fat retards
>>587589454also>third game>enemy abrams does nothing but w+HM lane>goes 0/6>stop seeing him for a while>he comes out of the jungle with 40k, 10k up on the rest of his team>still does the same exact thing and dies on repeati was LAFFIN
>>587589579I hope they succeed, what a cancer hero.
>>587589373Heal is good, wall is goodSimple as
>>587589579I hope they do
>>587589015she got some early buffs (rifle fire rate) and then they immediately started nerfing wolf form even though things like the resists she gained in wolf and the healing on kill were basically needed as the tradeoff for LITERALLY RUNNING INTO THE ENEMY TEAM POINT BLANKseveral items were bugged and didn't work with her, several STILL are bugged and don't work with her but retarded "pros" were getting raped because they weren't counterbuying against a new hero so they deemed her S tier I genuinely think the inverse is happening with Danny though
>>587589579he is annoyingbut that's finehe has counters. bebop hook, mcginnis turrets to a degree, carbine is a big one. knockdown + jumping his assslowing hex when his jetpack is exploding>>587589373a mcginnis that plays safe with ult build is fucking abysmal to play into / againstheal is goodwall is goodturrets annoy the enemyher gun build is kinda bad rn but spirit/ult is fine
>>587566373>>587566820Sure glowie
That reminds me I got to watch Gremlins 2 this Christmas. Remind me, /dlg/.
I need help manEvery other hero I regularly play has approximately a 50% win rate, a couple slightly higher, but no matter how many guides I watch I can't win as Wraith
>Play Bomb Geist>Do one trillion damage>Nobody diesThis shit is fake damage. I am starting to believe this a nightshift psyops to make us believe she's good.
>>587589807They're calling this the most brick post of all time
>Start quing for standard matched>Can't tell if I'm actually improving or not, all my games end in losses because we have an AFK.I wish I could force que for Europe. South African servers are dead as fuck.
>>587589807Anon, a monkey with down syndrome could hard carry and get MVP as Wraith
>>587589807>below 50% on wraiththe average wraith player. this is why icetard will never nerf wraith btw
>>587589807Try not to fight people unless you have 4 cards stacked, and then just spam cards at themwhen you have ult, only fight when you have ult, dont waste cards on farming/pushing unless you're going to overcap on charges
If your main had a plushie, what would they say when you squeezed it?
>>587589869Playing this game with anything more than 10 ping must be a nightmare. Imagine having to parry an Abrams coming at you at mach 10.
>>587589881People tell me this all the time but I just CAN'T and I don't know whyDynamo, Victor, Drifter, Rem, Danny, Seven, McGinnis, Billy, fucking Sinclair I can maintain a 50% win rate, it's just Wraith that I can't
>>587589808i love how people flock to fake damage heroes.geist in deadlock, lunara in hots, shit's dumb
>>587589920I WANT THEM TO BURN
>>587589920mina's would say> I really do love being a girl
>>587589808>play geist>enemy team has vindicta mina danny gray talon holliday kelvinI just maxed drain first instead
>>587589808Yeah I typically just spiderman from lane to lane and pop robots as her the just stand 10 miles back from teamblobs and throw grenades at them. Sometimes I run in and use her ult but it’s a really dull but effective playstyle
Lash feels so fucking horrible to play against 70% of heroes but its not talked about because once in a while you'll get a huge game winning ult. literally potential man.
>>587589959calm the fuck down sirus from path of exilei know it's venator
>>587589920FOR THE DJINNFOR THE DJINNFOR THE DJ- FOR THE DJINN
>>587589727Rifle fire rate was to make her playable in lane, she literally shot too slowly to secure last hits and people still insisted she was good lmao
>>587590030oh no a team fighti better look up the entire fight just in case dipshit retard is standing on the rooftops waiting for a big ult that's 100% going to wipe the team because it does damage + stuns + has potential to pick up 6 players + tosses them across the map + sets up 1 + 3 combo which is also a knockup/stun + puts them directly into your teamgreat. cool. now he can buy unstoppable and literally nothing can prevent it.fuck you
>>587589373She’s just very easy to hold a lane with and her ult can basically stop a push dead and solo kill a tower within the first 15 minutes.
>>587589920guess my main
>>587590127rifle fire rate was one of the only good things they did for hergiving grounding to her bola and making her bootkick and bola only target heroes was good too for laning, but still she feels like ass
>>587590228Pocket
I keep buying tier 3s instead of saving for tier 4s and I feel like it's losing me the game.
>>587590228Venator
>>587590228celeste
t2 items are all dogshit
I know it may sound stupid as a suggestion but like, I genuinely feel like silver ult will always be painfully terrible because of the melee focus I think it would be better to ditch the pure melee swipes, and instead when she transforms, maybe give her a beefier gun? Or let her dual-wield shotguns or something. So she still is justified in transforming but it just makes her "stronger"
>>587588107I just played with a team that managed to feed bebop 15 kills before 15 minutes.You tell me.
i think when silver transforms she should be able to pin down any female hero and knot them
>>587588165it's implied drifter didn't give a shit and was just there with shiv for shits and gigglesthe only person on par with drifter in the game is doormaneven seven goes all 'uwu please notice me drifter'
>>587590345ok retard
>>587590385a generally melee ult is fine, it's just implemented poorlylook at Billy, he does the melee bruiser schtick perfectly because his kit complements and enables it, silver's just does not
>>587590451Calm down Celeste
They should just change silver from her current ult form to troll warlord from dota 2 where you can stance swap whenever you want but you have to balance building her human vs wolf form + she doesn’t get a traditional ”ult”
>>587590451>2 now has additional effect>when the target is female, Silver knots them>works like Mo&Krill ulthot and nice buff also.
>>587590489Strange way of spelling Paige
>>587590345meanwhile in real life everyone buys opening rounds, swift striker, stalker, cold front, bullet res shredder, slowing hex, healbane, enchanter's emblem, battle vest, spirit & bullet lifesteal...
>>587590451excuse me what about the males? some enjoy knots too you know, they sit nicely against the prostate
>>587590385Just let her pop out of ult at will when the skill is maxed, you can ult, use spells, then go back to shooting
>>587590454>it's implied drifter didn't give a shit and was just there with shiv for shits and gigglesI see it more of "Drifter wants to kill this bounty hunter for shits and giggles but did not know she could transform" like a new player fighting Silver for the first time
>>587590402>laning>other lane has fed their bebop a shitload of kills>jesus christ >terrified out of my mind for when bebop will come and just rape everyone>finally encounter bebop>he's playing like shit missing every hook>doesn't matter though because the lead he got has let him snowball with stacks genuinely could not understand how they were dying so much to him early with how poorly he played, like I don't think he landed a single hook on anyone after lane phase
>>587590454Drifter is strong but he is also a bum on fraudwatch. He acts like he doesn't give two shits about anything and I'm certain he'd keep that facade all the way up Grey Talon eviscerating him after he got caught slipping.
i tbag every mcniggis, graves and paige player in jeet brool
>>587590228you're definitely the guy being called a fag and you play mina.
>>587590518this is the best outcome, they would have to lower the power of wolf form just a bit and increase human form slightly to compensate for being able to do this but it would just make her a far better character as well as be much more interesting and skill expressive
>>587590451Silver's BWC is too strong
>>587590603Calm down, Apollo!
>>587590637It do be like that.
>walking around the map>hear jumping behind meI'm not going insane am I?
>>587590518What if the simplied Silver's gun so it less demanding to use? Mayve something more like Grave's gun where she just swipes an aoe in front of her with the turned arm? Then instead of her 1 being some hard to aim multishot, just give her a howl that can block projectiles in an lingering aoe. And since her combo is gone, they could rework her 2 to be more like an aoe super jump so she has an easier time intitiating fights on the backline. Also skip the stupid uncontrollable ult, just give it a 90 second cd but balance it around making the swipes displacing people but dealing less damage.
why would a big org like C9 pick up a team in a game that gives out peanuts for the prize pool? I just checked night shift and the prize pool is 2k american burgers, how is that fucking worth it?
>>587590840This should give enemy team a debuff
ground strike should pierce counterspell if you do it from high up enough. lash's entire kit should not be countered by a single item
>>587590768huge political scandal in Ixia after the heir to the throne Apollo is discovered tied to a german shepherd in New York!
>>587590972How would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning?
>>587590873ANON WATCH OUT HAZE IS MISSING I REPEAT HAZE IS MI-
>>587590972Investment, branding
>>587591093>Pull Back!>Haze is Missing!>Haze's ult is ready!
>>587590972gambling on the game coming out in the next year (it won't)
>>587591084>food analogy
ATTENTIONI am now on an 8 loss streakTHANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION ON THIS MATTER
I was walking past a dark alleyway and I heard weird noises so I took a peek inside and I saw Violet in her hands and knees getting rutted by a big ol German Shepherd
I believe in Asian girl supremacyno I'm not Jensen Huang
>>587589807LIFT.........ACKKKKKKKKKKKKK ACK ACKKKKKKKKK
>>587591289Broadway Alley? it's a popular one for that kind of activity and one I frequent myself if I'm to be quite honest
>>587590130true! except of course if they have a Dynamo/Solomon/warp stone/knockdown/spellbreaker/are in any one of the many buildings/ethereal shift/viscous/pocket/Calico/minaif they dont have ANY of these then yes Lash is playable.>inb4 but its true for everything in the game!!!the problem is that Lash is extremely telegraphs with an insane amount of time to react with one of those mentioned tools that even a distracted retard could avoid any impact from him.
>>587589807>there are actually people who struggle to play wraith
AARRGH, FUCK. I HATE IXIANS. FUCKING IXIANS. GET YOUR IXIAN ASS OUT OF HERE. THESE FUCKING IXXAS RUINING MY LANE, GET THE FUCK OUT, YOU STUPID FUCKING IXXAS AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH
>>587590972the theory i saw that the contracts of the top players were very cheap. practically paying in exposure. so its C9 getting a safe investment to something that might be huge on full release.
>>587591506not cool dude
>>587591506We call them demons around here
>>587590972You don't understand, bro, Deadlock is huge! It's gonna be HUGE! The biggest esports game ever! Ignore the fact that it's completely unwatchable for laymen with all the special effects and jumping all over the place!
>>587589920>That sucks every time
>>587590228Violet
>>587591692People that like the game and will watch the esports scene will understand it just fine
RUN FOR YOUR YICKADEE LIVES
Esport is gay and ruins everything.
>>587591489I do, because I can't aim...
>>587589920Go. Back.
>>587592007the only thing that might ruin everything is that dumbfuck ice frog balancing deadlock for 0.001% of top players. lapping up suggestions from pros on all fours as he usually does.
>>587591869People that like the game won't provide enough viewership for big tournaments. StarCraft, DOTA/LoL and CS/R6S/Valorant are big for a reason: they're easy to understand. It's like football: people kick ball until it ends up inside the goalposts, other rules don't interfere with core experience.Deadlock on the other hand is like Blernsball:>what does that door do?>why is he jumping like that?>why is he hitting those boxes?>why do his shots ricochet now, they didn't before?>how did she make that anvil disappear? What is that anvil, is that some hero's skill?>why do they travel on the lines so fast now?>why did they suddenly respawn, I saw them die just now?etc.
>>587589807My guess is that you don't understand what your role is and you're trying to brool with this hero. You should leave your team to fight while you're farming a sidelane alone, if enough of them are far away then you take the walker for free, go to the other sidelane and do it again. If you don't have a soul lead Wraith is not very good. This is apparently not intuitive to many Wraithtards in my games.You can solo mid boss if you're in brick and there is no team coordination, or just take it very fast with your team. Also get used to spacing out your QSR on card and full auto to refill your ammo efficiently and fire continuously for as long as possible
>>587591506I want to be a race traitor with a hot Ixian MILF!
>>587592007Truth nuke
>>587592201mobas are not easy to understand though they have a thousand different abilities and items
*sighs* youre mine*cock vores you*
>>587592201do you really think starcraft and dota are easy to understand for people that don't know them? i have no idea what a broodmother is or why it's good. I don't know what a BKB does. deadlock is way more watchable than a joke game with 5 second point and click stuns.
>>587563096>Mirage A>His win rate? Uhhhh doesn't matter ok? He's good because uhhhhh... he can teleport or something
90% of esports is unwatchable because of the faggot casters yelling constantly and creating fake hype. it's cool sometimes when you can watch the game with a streamer who acts like a normal human
>>587592396Dota, league, and starcraft have the benefit of a top down view, letting the viewer see what's going onCS has the benefit of being relatively slow paced for a shooterDeadlock is way too fucking fast with too much going on with now way to get a good overview to be a good spectator sport
I like playing Vyper but her model is so fucking ugly and half her abilities dont do anything after the 10 minute mark. please rework already, Yoshi. she is your golden goose.
>>587592338They do, but at the end of the day it's just funny characters walking around map and hitting each other. Fights happening on 2D plane makes it easier for consumption too.I'm pretty sure LoL viewership tanked when they added random elemental drakes, but I can be wrong.It's just all the same reasons Overwatch failed as esports despite massive money investment, and Deadlock is just that but on crack. New heroes with street-wide AOEs don't help either.
I A MT H E C O S M O S
YOUR PORK WILL BE MINE - Mina "hungry hippo" Ha
I've been playing Deadlock casually for at least a week now, but I'm new to PvP shooters and MOBA in general. What the fuck am I supposed to do against a Danny that's flying and carpet bombing me with napalm when none of my abilities can hit me and I am not using a gun hero?
>>587592580No one cares about Overwatch or League of Legends because they're shit games.
>>587592619Mina Haaaaa
>>587592646Just buy Knockdown and stun him for a second, hahaNo, it won't be enough for you to kill him unless some support ults him in place for you, and he will go back to flying right after, but what can you do, haha3200 souls well spent, I say!
>>587592738
Day 41I am forgotten
mina said you disgust me in game and then said later loser and now i feel sad :/
>>587592680Great argument.
>>587592646Hide around corners or indoors and hope one of your teammates does something. Buy knockdown, slowing hex (disables his dive ability but he can still fly), or phantom strike. If you're talking about specifically in laning phase, the situation against terrorist flying heroes isn't as bad as it seems. Buy monster rounds and push the wave out as much as possible so it's harder for them to take your guardian, then one of you can go and run boxes instead of fighting them
>>587592901Weird non sequitur but okay.
>1 year old account>only other game on account: CS2>is vac banned in CS2I hope Gaben's faggot yacht is attacked by pirates
geist solved
>>587592867I love when this fockin' guy runs into my fed glass cannon Vindicta with healbane in Standards.
>>587593567>all new heroes already forgotten>can reliably get into matches without any of them several times every daythis really is the worst batch yet. hope it doesn't get worse than this
>>587592201Sure man, lol
meet my....................lovely asistant :)
>>587593567a useless bomb geist in every gamenice
>>587593567The masses are waking up
>>587593915>overnerf new heroes>people stop picking themMost obvious being Violet
>>587593915It most certainly will. Every game inevitably adds the techies hero and there isn't one in deadlock yet.
>>587593915I haven't seen Solomon in a week. But I do get matched on EU/RU servers, so it's understandable.
>>587594324most obvious is rat king. 5% base damage nerf + 20% damage scaling nerf AND nerfing his damage abilities is unheard of. that was a tactical nuke
>>587592776>>587592952My teammates bought knockdown but I still just get picked off when I'm on my own or in a 1v1. I'll start buying Slowing Hex as a counter item against him (and probably Vindicta too, thanks.
>>587594324>shitters stop playing overpowered new heroes just by mentioning nerfsThey are all still fine
New York Oracle just did a shocking exposé article. Apparently the famous fashion designer Mina Ha, up-and-coming modern artist Violet and some associate of theirs named Paige has been holding doggy orgies at Mina's house
What happened to Venator, wasnt he meta 2 weeks ago?
>>587592646counterspell his diveif you slowing hex him while he's overheating, he cant dive, he just explodesif he doesnt hit anyone with his dive, he cant fly for a bit until his fuel recharges
>>587594542he just shotgunned me and then heavy meeled and killed me in my match rn id say nerf him even more
>>587594542He got nerfed just recently
Someone should draw Graves stepfordization, which makes her forget about the Lich hand
my interest in this game is waning. getting my friends into this shit was the worst idea ever
>>587594750>friend do not listen to anything you say BUT he also gets mad at you for some shitty play he didYou do not play mobas with friends
>>587592867I still play him. He's good.
>>587593915Danny and Rat King (who got overnerfed) are the only fun heroes to play desu everyone else is boring
>>587594792its not that, my group is unironically too retarded and casual to get mad. instead its me seething secretly every match
>>587595002Just carry them lol
>>587594962the only fun parts of danny are aiming his charged M1s and his jetpack>rat kingpost hands
rat king is the most boring hero>cosmetic bomb >some aoeslop straight line skill >shiled (most boring moba trope imaginable)>le brool aoeslop ulti
>>587595091i cant because i am good enough to understand what are good plays but not execute on them consistently enough to 1v6like my boys are basically tiktok npcs, for example a friend plays seven, gets hit by knockdown, and the entire vc goes crazy with "BROOOOOO" and joking about how epic and tom and jerry-esque it is and how its looney tunes af etc. it doesnt matter to them we lose the rift and then walker and two base guardians and half a shrine hp bar afteri am jealous and hateful
WE HAVE YOU NOW!
>>587595302*gets gently slapped for few seconds*OH NOOOO
>>587595002play mo & krill or ivy and just make some bullshit
>>587595175going W+M1 as a huge Rat that could outlast anyone was fun as fuck. Melting people while throwing rats at them and they run in fear, it was some of the most fun I've had. Now the hero is unfortunately an elo poison and I feel like I'll just be making the game harder for myself and teammates if I queue him
>>587594542Venator wants to play tempo and the midboss changes make tempo bad
>>587595343>Mo arrested for sexual assault after multiple reports of his slapping womens breasts on purpose
no and skill
I play Mo & Krill, Graves and Warden.
>>587595468>midboss changes make tempo badPlease explain I do not know
>>587595236I play 6 mans with 5 shitters and every game is against 1 human and 6 shitters, just pick a ganking hero and farm players
>>587595820Holy trinity of skill and honesty
why does holliday shout all her voicelines>LASSO IS ON COOLDOWN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LET ME GO YOU GOD DAMN REDNECK
How long before tourists leave and go back to marvel rivals?
>>587595934Its fucking annoyingDoesnt help that everything else about her sucks
>>587595934Anon, she's sleep deprived as shit and being retardedAnything to force the adrenaline required to literally not keel overApollo outright calls her out on this too
I want to be Holliday's third husband.
Holliday lore rework : I am Holliday's childhood friend and we have been married for 20 years and we still love each other and have no plans on leaving each other.
I have 50 hours in deadslop and still dont get itBehind or second last in souls every time Cany kill anybody Weird map layout with 3 levels so idk how to farm
Keep fighting morris
CHECK OUT WHAT MINA BOUGHT
They should add more melee items
>>587597183The item update will add around 3-4 new melee items.-Y
>>587596548Waves>sinners>a box route between rotation>camps>a handful of boxes next to youSolo and duo kills are worth more than 100% of the kills value (solo kills are worth 125%, all to you), three or more split is worth less than 100% meaning of you keep brooling with the team for no objective you are losing a LOT of money
>>587597563virgin incel, I bet you're also racist
>>587597563Also solo walker kills give 50% of the walkers' value to you (around 2k souls)...The map you'll learn with time. Learn to move efficiently : make a habit of mantle sliding, learn where vents are, use the TP to get around the map.If you are useless on your team at least buy curse for their most problematic player unless (watch out for Indomitable and Unstoppable).
I currently have the unfortunate habit of going straight for T4s which I'm assuming I should break. So should I buy component T1/2s first and some essential T3s (e.g. Lifestrike on Abrams) and leave going for T4s later (e.g. Crushing Fists)? So by mid game fill my inventory with T2/3s and only upgrade to T4 when I can?
>>587597892It's 1.4k souls for solo walkers (37,5%)
>>587597563Huh, I thought camps would give more than boxes.I guess I should deprioritize doing camps and focus on sinners more.
>walker>doesn't walk
Game is still ass
when the enemy team has a baba queued and the MM gave us all spirit shit, how am i supposed to coordinate a complete redraft with 5 strangers within 30 seconds? mickey mouse bullshit fake ranked
I think I fucking love this game, I never played a moba in my life either
>>587593567Give us Violet and Harrow buffs Yoshi
playing Paradox against a Dynamo and Rat King I'm starting to realise just how worthless and easy to dodge my 1 is compared to everyone else (let's not even talk about Geist)
>>587598464>fancy weeb brushes>screencapping CSP>dogshit /beg/ artvioletcore fanart
>winning by a lot>team decides around 15 minutes that they should stalemate the other team in center for 10 minutes>enemy team send two people down the side lanes while my team stalemates near their base>one of our team dies even with the man advantage >then another>then the rest>I’ve cleared one lane, the other lane destroyed our walker>team proceeds to make retarded decisions and dives because they’re panicking >proceed to loseWish there was a forfeit button
>>587598240A T2 neutral at minute 10 is worth 83 souls. One crate is worth 41 and one armored crate is worth 82. If you have the choice between doing a camp or rotating to a lane to catch a wave and doing boxes on the way, yes you shouldn't be doing the camp. If you are waiting for an enemy wave to come to you and there's a camp nearby, do the camp then wave then boxes. Waves should always be your main source of farm unless there's a carry that wants the solo lane next to you.You'll get the hang of farming after a while, but this + learning the map + stop losing time are your main area of improvement when you start. That and reading the game (Brool going on with 5 enemies early/mid game and you're playing Wraith/Seven/etc. ? Take a walker)
Are voicelines client or server side?
>>587598912Boxes should be unironically removed and replaced with more jungle camps, why the fuck are you getting so much farm for punching fucking boxesschizo design
>>587598464Underrated ship tbqhwymf
>>587595934>ping seven>Seven thinks he's so smart >:(
>>587599191lol
>>587598147Abrams can buy a stupid amount of 3200 items, they are so good on him>hunter's aura, berserker, duration extender, counterspell, dispel magic, metal skin, warp stone, spirit and bullet resistanceAbrams have to choose which 3.2ka he CAN'T get
Kidnap-built doorman>nerfed>unfavorable map layout>requires extreme item investment >unreliable and frustrating map geometry>requires all your abilities to do just 1 combo>you end up fishing for kidnaps instead of playing organically >can’t split push into enemy (no walker range)Ultimate-built doorman >best disable in game on 15 second cooldown >always available>extremely reliable>slowing hex and/or cold front alone is usually enough to secure failure to check out >having it on 15s allows you to split push like a bat from hell forcing 2 people to deal with your shenanigans >all your other skills are still available for escape/repositioning/or ANOTHER stun (cart)
I tried bomb geist yesterday and it's still meme shit. if you don't have a competent team who can follow up (you'll never get a competent team in pubs) the bomb damage results in zero kills.
>>587600095late game you should still buy berserker and perhaps spell slinger
>>587566742Asking Harrow out on a date and then no showing, making her look like an idiot and breaking her heart
>>587595934YEAHNAH
>>587600095The bomb is for clearing out lane and camps the drain is for securing kills
>>587598349Mina sucks on a doggy tip just like that
>>587589373>every pro has her in A or S tierI don't think they do.Most tier list i've seen have her in the bottom, or at best mid; and you gotta remember that those who make those who make tier lists, regardless of how good they are, are biased like you and i and will often be clueless to a character they never play or face.GunGinnis is the only build that work currently.
>>587600095>the bomb damage results in zero killsHow do you guys assess the damage stat in relation to it actually resulting in kills and not just being statpadding/filler damage.
>>587566742
>>587589373its literally just her wall that's it she's trash after all the nerfs she got
>>587598349same
>play drifter>win lane>roam and get kills>enemies all start to never ever engage on anything and save all their ults for me>die repeatedly as my team does absolutely nothingI've had this happen repeatedly. What are some bullshit items i can build on drifter so I can just get in and out and ignore my braindead teammates?
is abrams' wall stun the only stun that isn't affected by diminishing CC returns? he can just spam it 10 times back to back and you'll always be stunned for a heavy melee. it isn't like this with venator
20 years of online gaming and you guys still haven't learned you're not a godlike little king superior to both your enemies and teammates, and that you should instead learn to use mic and work with your mates.When everyone have this mentality, i don't get how 1v1 games aren't more popular.
>>587601491THROWING BARREL*BOINGCAN SOMEONE SHOOT THIS GUY ALREADY?
i was told removing shields would save the matchmakingwhy isit stillso shit?
Billy is a throw pick
Any other support mains here who get morale nuked if the carry says some shit like "idc lol" or "chill"Currently Phantom 3, I can stomach the m1gger not securing souls, or someone rotating too slow for rift, etc but the moment anyone actually voices some too-cool-to-care bullshit I just sell all my greens and start buying gun
someone post the critical health holliday one
PVE mode when?Item/shop update when?
>>587601609because with 1v1 games, people can't use excuses (except 'hurr their character is broken')also communication only works if your team is willing to listen (they aren't)
>>587601847>The female heroes' critical damage portraits in this game are turning me into a ryonafag. Very much so for Mina and Silver but Holliday in particular makes my dick diamonds. The sideways glance, chin tucked in, the scratch on her cheek, the pleading look in her bruised eye. It screams of domestic abuse victim. Just fucking look at picrel>Bad night where both of you argued and it devolved into a screaming match until she started putting on her cowgirl cosplay and saying she was leaving. And that pushed you over the edge so you grabbed her by her stupid scarf and smacked her over the head with a closed fist until she started crying and begged you to "stop, stop, you're hurting me" so you let her go. And now she's standing in the foyer (but her hand is no longer on the doorknob) and looking at you like picrel. And you feel blood flowing to your cock because you know she's wet now>I get similar vibes with Graves and Vindicta too, the mussed up hair and pleading "stop, stop, I'll stop arguing, just please don't hurt me anymore, okay?" looks on their faces. It's just incredibleThis one?
>>587601661I GOT YOU, YOU SON OF A BITCHbest desperation line in the game
>>587589373She scales when all the games to go 40+ minutes. I wouldn't call her good though.
>>587601990no, there's some fanart of her pointing the gun and being all bloodied up and smilingi can't find it on google
>>587601491I can't take grim Holliday art seriously when her ingame kit is literally Looney Toons tier shit
Well, you can't expect to win them all!
>>587600661>sucking on the pointy tip as he spurts jet after jet into your mouthhot
is Haze the only honest hero in the whole game?
>>587600805if you get into a fight and get the enemy low but they escape more often than they die you're doing stat padding damage. it's something you can tell mostly by seeing it, you can't really discern it from the stats page at the end of the match.
>>587602678>m1ggerbebop is the only honest hero
>>587599520That reminds me.Is vortex web or Arctic blast better for his ult build? if I'm reading this right, Arctic blast has a stronger and longer slow?
>>587601863>tulsa star is the name on some in-game news papers>IRL Tulsa Star left OK because of the race massacre>refounded in NY as Buffalo Starso the massacre didn't happen in Deadlock's timeline or the owner never renamed it? Would NY have Oklahoma newspapers?I need LORE Yoshi!
Nurse Harrow crying in an empty appartment because she realized that nobody can stand being around her and she will die alone and unloved with nobody to even leave a flower on her grave
>>587603180kinda weird headcanon when in reality shes a mother of 5 little ones (im the hubby)
>>587603381She stuffed them in the bag anon. They're gone.
Pocketting Ven on Ivy is fun.
>>587603180that's sad I don't like that
Deadlock's movement gives me a headache the way contemporary Call of Duty and Battlefield titles's movement gives me a headache.
>>587604470cs is still slow paced.
Man I forgot how fucking miserable it is to play frontline in rankedSo many retards that will just not play with youHad a danny that complained I was afk farming early/mid despite me hard winning lane as billy, like nigger what do you want me to do
>>587604470>ahh ahhh I have to dash AND jump? i have to wall jump and then strafe a little? I gotta- oh my Christ is King, I need a tylenol. my head is throbbing. this is too much gameplay
>>587604671frontline is gaids unless you want to constantly shotcall.
>>587604801Hey buddy, not everyone who plays video games is an ADHD zoomer
>Piss off a guy so hard that he adds me on a steamYup you know he's seething
>>587604801this but unironically
>>587605073Then go play something else gramps. No need to announce your senility here
>>587604470Deadlock movement is fine (fun even) it's just counterintuitive as a Source engine game at higher execution
servers are fucked?
>>587605498No, I will play Deadlock, won't bother with sliding and abusing Source 2 physics glitches, and you WILL be forced to play on my team thanks to matchmaking. Cope. Seethe. Dilate. Good luck affording a house to live in, lmao.
>>587605670>you WILL be forced to play on my teamI'm not brick so no
>>587604801Yes, exactly
Is it normal to be least damage on the team as Billy? Not playing gun carry billy if that mattersIt feels like I'm doing my job well enough but my stats are reversed padded if that makes sense.
>>587605591>evil doctor/scientist hero>character looks like some abstract Malevich painting of a trannyDo you really need that many sharp angles everywhere?
>>587605914Yeah they cut into his damage a few months back and you have to gamble heavily on light melees to do more.
>>587605938>sees woman>thinks of menHi, /mrg/
>>587606096Well maybe try making women that look like women so people don't get confused?
>>587606232>>587606232>>587606232
>>587606206if you're confused, it's a (you) problem
>>587604470Movement is fine and looks cool, also it's fair too because you have plenty of cc and slow options. The problem is I am new and awful so it's taking me forever to execute actual mobility myself and I definitely feel it when roaming.
>Called patrons>they don't pay you every month for playing the game
>>587605670>walljumps and sliding is abusing the engine
>>587571117that is not ball fondling
>>587588548his criminal past seems extensive so maybe early thirties
