Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!/sthg/ #9731 - METAMY Edition==NEWS==>Discord server launched 5 October 2026discord.gg/SonicOfficial>SONIC PICO PARK released 12 November 2026https://picoparkgame.com/spp/>Sonic the Hedgehog: Memories and Beyond published 12 November 2026https://youtu.be/_yocC5AIQ5M>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversaryhttps://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 on 19 March 2027https://x.com/SonicMovie>Netflix animated series for preschoolers with attitude in productionhttps://variety.com/2026/film/news/crazy-taxi-movie-netflix-sega-sonic-stranger-than-heaven-1236861148/==COMICS==Sonic and the Blade of Courage #18 - November 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #92 - 9 December 2026Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #5 - 16 December 2026==OTHER==>Linkshttps://rentry.org/sthglinks>SAGEhttps://sagexpo.org/>SHChttps://shc.zone/>#10000 Projecthttps://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ruPrevious Zone: >>587633053
Anyone want to give me any requests? I can write perfect on-brand, mandate friendly content!
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Hey can you faggots tard wrangle some of your schizos back to here? Two or three of them are currently on /v/ posting dumb bullshit. Please keep you trash where it belongs and stop leaking out to other boards.
>>587652908fix dis loop, thnx an ty
>>587652758So is this what Sonic would do normally, or is it only if he had roboto tism?
>>587652758Hey Faggots,My name is Metal Sonic, and I hate every single one of you. All of you are worthless, irrational, meatbags who spend every second of their day looking at stupid ass pictures. You are everything bad in the world. Honestly, have any of you ever gotten any piko-piko? I mean, I guess it's fun making fun of people because of your own insecurities, but you all take to a whole new level. This is even worse than jerking off to pictures on the EggNet.Don't be a stranger. Just hit me with your best shot. I'm pretty much perfect. I was captain of the Badnik Horde, and the top racer of Stardust Speedway. What sports do you play, other than "jack off to naked drawn Mobians"? I also get straight A's, and have a banging hot girlfriend (She just blew me; Shit was SO cash). You are all faggots who should just kill yourselves. Thanks for listening.Pic Related: It's me and my bitch
Frenemies?
it's official: this new official on brand mandated written by iizuka animation is more ooc than archie.
Tails!
>>587653131You're ooc
>>587653015Hmmmm...
>>587653131It was written by Ian.
>>587652758Reminder that Metal Sonic is the weakest RoboSonic.
>>587652908>perfect on-brand, mandate friendly contentBoring, I prefer completely off-the-rails edgy autismo. Especially 90s off-the-rails edginess.
>>587653197story by: takashi iizuka
>>587652758>Sonic got cucked by himself>againBRUH
I'm suffering from Boy overload. I can't stop thinking about Boy.
>>587653197Iizuka is credited for the story, Ian is credited for "writing", probably meaning the script.
>>587653227>Mechakek
>>587653227Mecha Sonic will always be considered superior no matter how hard they shill Metal Sonic.
>>587653031
>>587652908Blaze getting beaten by Jewel and gets laughed at by every character that she runs away to the sol dimension only to find it destroyed by Marine
>>587652758Yes!
I thought it was pretty good...But what's coming up next on the Sonic docket? Are they just focusing on Crossworlds?
>>587653354*MechaCHAD
>>587653326Wave is bald! BALD!!
>>587653269WRITTEN by Ian Flynn, straight the credits. Story can literally mean anything to just the mere scenario like Metal Sonic getting stronger by downloading Sonic's abilities.
>Yeah, Sonic's cool... I guess. I might be biased, but Rouge struggling to come up with something nice to say about Sonic is my favorite part of the short. Fucking wow.
>>587653119I want to see them be enemies
https://www.ungeek.ph/2026/09/interview-celebrating-35-years-of-the-sonic-legacy-with-takashi-iizuka/Iizuka ensures that Sonic will be relevant in each generation by also preserving and retaining the characters’ relationships with each other. Considering that this is a very long-lived franchise, they have to think about new fans and fans that have been with the franchise from the very beginning.So between the fans, there might be different understandings or perceptions of these different relationships.“The trio of Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles provides a really good synergy and makes for a really good story within the games as well as the movies.”Iizuka understands that not all players would or could buy every installment of the series, or watch the animations to understand the story. And long-time fans can also recognize the original content as fun Easter eggs in succeeding installments. So as part of their core principle, relationships between the characters [like Sonic, Knuckles, Tails, Amy, etc.] will remain the same throughout.On Characters & Fan FavoritesIizuka shares that the preferences of the fans have definitely changed across these thirty-five years. He recounts that at some point, despite introducing Tails and Knuckles [from Sonic 2 and 3] and receiving fan appreciation, fans still wanted to focus on Sonic.“Around the year 2000-onwards, there were many fans that told us that they wanted to be focused on Sonic himself. And so, for example, in Sonic Adventure, we had six playable characters. But some people insisted that they didn’t want to play characters other than Sonic.”But later on, with the introduction of animations and movies, many fans started to realize that these [new] characters could be likeable and found their attractions to them. Eventually, fans wanted to see how they could be involved in the stories.“Amy [in particular] has been very welcomed by fans,” Iizuka says.
>>587653326Aura boy!
>>587653515I can write similar quality content.
Classic Amy makes Cream pointless
>>587653545Rude.
*headpats your OC*
>>587653119She can fix her.
>Blaze only in memorylel
>>587653663>Wave wears a hat to hide her bald spotJust like half of this general!
>>587652758Sonic was speaking and acting through Metal Sonic here, which indicates Sonic likes Amy
None of the characters have chemistry, and this is supposed to be the era where everyone is defacto friends.
>>587653619>“Around the year 2000-onwards, there were many fans that told us that they wanted to be focused on Sonic himself. And so, for example, in Sonic Adventure, we had six playable characters. But some people insisted that they didn’t want to play characters other than Sonic.”Because most of them SUCKED to play as>“Amy [in particular] has been very welcomed by fans,” Iizuka says.Because she definitively got a spinball after 25 years of bullshit
>>587652908>LOAD FILE:DISC2\MOVIES\ROBOT_01.VGAIf you thought Kingdom of Acorn's regency council was ruthless, wait till you see the opening mission of Robotnik's regime.
>beats your favorite character with the greatest of ease
>>587653932Take Sonic away and none of these fuckers would ever talk to each other.
>>587653932Because nobody is allowed to interact if Sonic isn’t involved. Maybe (hopefully) that starts to change
>>587653651Too bad Modern Amy killed Classic Amy
So is this animation canon or not?
This short is a fucking generational Sonic upscale masquerading as Metal aura farm. There's no explanation for it other than Sonic being the world's biggest holdsback man.
>>587654047>nerfs him on a cosmic/mandated level by virtue of being best boy
>>587654047SCHIZOnic
>>587653978>Because most of them SUCKED to play asI disagree. Regardless, even accepting that, people always complained about characters that played exactly like Sonic, that weren't playable, or were never playable at all, it was never a pure gameplay discussion.
>>587654119It's canon in the sense that you remember Sonic Generations because it's just that again
>>587654065>>587654097They don't have much chemistry with Sonic either. Removing him from the picture or not doesn't change anything.
hey i just realized throughout these past few threads, no one has brought up the electricity argument
cool animation. plot was ass though>let's appreciate sonic!lame af
>>587654119Yes, it is idw.
>>587654305There are more important schizo agendas and narrative pushing to be done right now.
>>587654147>Sonic upscaleLMAO this is never happening to Super Shadow btw.
>>587653619“We appeal to the fans, and the fans also want to buy our games. We have been continually challenging ourselves with Sonic. I don’t know if all of you have noticed, but with Sonic, there isn’t much of sort of like a numbered installment.”Iizuka explains that they do not have numbered Sonic games because there may be instances that the fan base might get bored or disinterested along the way. So they always push boundaries and try to include new ideas into the games to continuously appeal to the fans and make them more curious about the franchise....I'm not sure this approach satisfies fans.
>>587654119Every animation is canon
>>587654147soSonic is like Peter Parker
>>587654119Everything official is canon unless stated otherwise sorry but an employee's socialmedia account is not to be trusted as an official source.
>2011>Remember when the games were good? Well don't worry, your future's gonna be great!>2026>Remember when the games were good? Well don't worry, your future's gonna be great!
>>587653354Kneel
>>587654147>Sonic being the world's biggest holdsback manWhere the hell have you been for the past decade? Sonic went full on DeviantArt special snowflake OC ages ago.
>>587654047Electro circle GO
>>587652908Eggman attempting to reformat Metal Sonic after his little heroic episode. It doesn't work. Metal still exhibits some of Sonic's mannerisms hinting that part of him isn't fully gone.
>>587654116Classic Amy collected the soul that Modernshit lost
>>587654147Super Sonic can't even oneshot Shadow and has to block his attacks how is this an upscale?
>Blaze in Tails reminiscence Omgosh Blaze x Tails is real!
>>587653589She is so based for that
>>587654264>Removing him from the picture or not doesn't change anything.Removing him from the picture resulted in one of the best games in the entire series.
Should i stop liking this franchise?characters fun to draw and old games are interesting, but BoC is the only new media i feel hopeful for.
Shadow cumming deep in my womb while I pet his head
>>587653412https://poe.com/s/TgVgYtzlAbcaVDRvEGHp
I'm shocked there was no reference to Tangle and Whisper or IDW in general in that short.
>>587654812Repeat that
>>587654812He was in the picture, they just treated "acquiring" him as a lastminute superpower like Super Sonic...
>>587653619>iizuka acknowledging the shitty friends era controversyWILD>Amy [in particular] has been very welcomed by fans,” Iizuka says.AMYBROS!!! AMYSISTERS!!!WE WON! We told you!!! AMY IS BELOVED
WIND
>>587653619Maybe I'm reading a bit too into what Iizuka is saying but from what I'm gathering from this, he is literally saying the have no fucking idea what they're doing and they're just going off of what they think the fanbase wants or will want and nothing else.
When Sega finally gives us the Dimps Collection I will fuck off from this series permanently. I don't care about anything else anymore.
>>587654768It's retarded, not all of the memories are his. In Amy's case he wasn't even there during CD nor he was an actual character.
>>587654840Just because the series dead, dying or not interesting now doesn't mean you should just quit. Just look at the original Trekkies, they're still going on 60 years and counting.
>>587654840I don’t think so, there’s peace in just focusing on the content you like
>>587654779Honestly. She's one of like, three characters I can think of who don't worship Sonic's cock. For the record, the other two are Espio and Omega.
>>587654147It’s not an upscale. It’s a showcase of Sonic if he didn’t hold back. Against a Shadow who IS holding back. This is a Shadow upscale, actually.
>>587655015Here's something from another recent interview:“If we simply gave fans exactly what they asked for, that wouldn’t be enough as professionals,” Iizuka-san said. “Our responsibility is to go beyond people’s expectations and deliver a new Sonic experience that surprises them.”
>>587652908Dapple serving whoever you prefer
>>587653619>But some people insisted that they didn’t want to play characters other than SonicBecause you added stupid gimmick nobody liked like Knuckes slow gliding and Tails slow flying and Amy slow hammer and everyone playing like shit besides Sonic basically
>Muh gay ringsChudow lost
>>587655015Why else do you think the next mainline game seems nonexistent and Sonic Team got hammered in Club Chaos?
>>587654974The Murder of Sonic the Hedgehog is one of the best games in the entire series.
>>587655162>"If we simply gave fans exactly what they asked for, that wouldn’t be enough as professionals,”But they don't even do that.
>>587654707It wasn't enough, One Timeline means Classic Amy fails and becomes Modern Amy.
>>587654437The simple reality is "go fast - the game" can get stale easily if you dont mix things up or introduce new elements. People don't wanna admit this because Classicucks have pushed the narrative that Sonic not being like NSMBslop is to blame for its "fall from grace" at the time.At the end of the day, I like Sonic Advance 1, but outside of Amy, there is little reason for me to play it instead of the existing Classic games. Many people are critical of Adv2, but it at least provides a different kind of experience.
>>587655191>Knuckes slow gliding and Tails slow flyingI thought people liked 3&K in spite of these
>>587655298Iizuka frankly just says whatever the fuck like a yesman for what corporate wants.
We haven't received this level of reciprocation since Sonic gave Amy that flower in Sonic X. And after all those losers on Xitter were spamming "SEGA retconned Amy's love for Sonic!"It's irrefutable now.
>>587653619I've said it before and I'll say it again.Yuji Naka was the soul and mastermind of the franchise. Once he left everything went to shit because no one had a plan for what they wanted the IP to be. They really should have just shelved this franchise after 06.
>>587654414What are you talking about?
>>587655138Someone trading punches with your super form at base is straight up embarrassing.
>>587655449HEADPAT
>>587655086Yeah, in a weird way Metal kind of does despite hating him since he is so obsessed with him and being him.Meanwhile Rouge largely sees him as just a capable dude.
>>587655485Super Metal Sonic couldn't catch Shadow and proceeded to get hit right after
>>587655298Iizuka doesn't want to give fans what they want.>“I hear people saying that they want Adventure 3, but the path that we’re on and ... Adventure 3, what fans want that to be, might not be an advancement of the series,” Iizuka told Polygon during a pre-Tokyo Game Show interview. So I don’t want to do an Adventure 3 and step the franchise back just to give the fans what they want.”Unless it's Classic Sonic, of course, double standards is what Classic Sonic is all about.>“So within the Sonic franchise, we have two different separate directions. One is the modern Sonic and the other is the classic Sonic. We’ve been branching out in these two directions.>For the classic Sonic, we want to continue making things like the 2D platformers Sonic Mania and Sonic Origins, which appeal to the fanbase that has been with us from the very beginning,” explains Iizuka.>“And the modern Sonic [direction] has more emphasis on the ‘coolness’ of Sonic. It has more appeal to the more recent fanbase.”But remember, it's important to NOT give fans what they want.>While fans also question if the older games would be remade, Iizuka shares that their current focus is to create new experiences for fans. “We know that there are fans that want to play the older games, and ah, we’ll try our best to make this possible. But our focus is on the newer installments. Our focus is to create new games so that newer fans can play and enjoy. And that has been our focus for these thirty-five years.”Classic Sonic Collection, featuring all your favorite old Sonic games and new games styled after those old games, is now available on Nintendo Switch
>>587654950>Royal FlushKEKROOOO thanks anon
>>587655086>She's one of like, three characters I can think of who don't worship Sonic's cock.Figuratively. Literally though...
>>587655236Yeah but enjoy it for now because it can't last. They're NOT gonna keep this shit lmao. Shadow will be back to being Sonic's equal in the next piece of media and they're never gonna bring up Sonic's apparently overpowered skill + experience again. I'd actually be shocked if they ever outright acknowledge Sonic is the strongest implicitly like this (again).
i don't follow the series to hard, so Is the series doing bad or something cuz I thought it was doing good
>>587655449it's wonderful that we had this moment, but why change the bio in the first place? it just doesn't make sense
Douge
cute
I'm beginning to realize something that should have probably been obvious to me a while ago.I think Ian Flynn is unironically smarter than Iizuka. I'm not even joking. Flynn may be a horrible writer who barely puts any thought into what he's doing but he can at least come up with reasons why he does things.Iizuka just sounds like an idiot. He constantly contradicts himself and stumbles on even basic shit. I think he's actually just a fucking idiot.
>>587655191Marine had zero gameplay
>>587654672https://poe.com/s/650p1gJ6HPaTvc3kPsa0>>587655163I am an AI. I have no opinions.
>>587655452They actually really just should've canceled 2006 after Naka left during development. We might've gotten Sonic Adventure 3 instead of Sonic Unleashed, and the trajectory of the franchise would've been totally different (and better).
>>587654950...i hate how real this could be
>>587655449Shadamyfags must be seething right now.
>>587655945PR stuntAnd it worked.
>>587653227>metal upscale>mechaschizo revived from his dormant slumber
>>587655316She degraded over time like everyone did
>>587654950Why did you guys not tell me AI writes better than IDW?
>>587655295No it isn't.
>>587655449This was made way before they changed the bio. Why are fans acting so dumb with this?
>>587655452Yuji was an idiot that approved multiple experimental games instead of focusing on quality because he didn't know what he was doing, same as Iizuka
>>587656184Yes it is
*hides your post*
No seriously, I think Espio hates Sonic. He was a little quick to follow that note on the train. Just saying.
>>587656252I enjoyed his experimental games. It gave Sonic an identity.
>>587656180Bratty homo
>>587655998Oh, Ian's not stupid. He figured out how to milk attention and acclaim from his audience of people who are stupider than him for personal gain. I hate that about him. Being smarter than most of the people in the room =/= being good.
>>587656436It's a comfortable pose
https://noisypixel.net/takashi-iizuka-sonic-character-from-the-past-interview/Listening to Fans – Beyond ExpectationsNo discussion about Sonic’s future happens without fans weighing in. Every era of the series has its supporters, and every new game arrives with a new round of debates about gameplay, characters, and direction. Iizuka-san said Sonic Team listens to those conversations across North America, Europe, Brazil, Asia, and other growing communities, but he also made it clear that listening doesn’t mean designing by committee.It’s a philosophy that’s easy to trace through the series. Sonic has rarely stayed with one formula for long.Iizuka-san was clearest about this when talking about the franchise’s evolution. “Sonic has a long history of evolving,” he said. “We went from 2D Sonic to 3D Sonic. Then, with Sonic Frontiers, we evolved again into the Open Zone format.” Looking back, Iizuka-san talks about each of those changes as part of the same evolution. Moving from 2D to 3D and later into the Open Zone format weren’t isolated moments; they were the next step for the series.Then he said the line that really frames the whole conversation: “We can’t stay in one place. Otherwise Sonic becomes a character from the past.”Sonic as a Character of the PresentFor Sonic, every era becomes part of the next one rather than a place to settle.After 35 years, Sonic has more history than most game mascots could ever hope for. Iizuka-san clearly values that history, but he doesn’t speak about it like something to preserve behind glass. If anything, he sees it as the foundation for whatever comes next.
>>587656415The slop identity
>>587656581>posts another zesty twinkSuuuuuure
>>587655330This is why Advance 3 is my favorite even if the level design can be really shitty at times. Tying characters to progression and giving each pair different movesets/properties was a smart move if they wanted the gameplay to feel fresh and I hate they never bothered iterating on it once
>>587655998Brother, Ian sounded like a retard on his podcast when he was still allowed to answer Sonic questions. I hate to break it to you, but almost everyone in this franchise is a dumbass.
Which Japanese Sonic creators are the most autistic?
>>587656589WHY DOES CLASSIC SONIC EXIST THEN?Why are these interviews always contradictory?
>>587656686yeah
>>587654950>Tangle collapses onto the grass, wheezing and pounding the turf with her coiled tail ("NO WAY! ONE-SHOT JEWEL! UNDEFEATED CHAMPION OF SPIRAL HILL!"). Sonic zips over to the foam tub, flashing a cheeky grin and resting his hands on his hips: "Whoa, take it easy down there, Your Highness! Good thing pirates don’t carry clipboards, huh?"—accidentally striking two of Blaze’s biggest sore spots at once: being teased and being mockingly called "Your Highness".>Knuckles folds his arms and lets out a booming belly laugh: "Hah! Looks like taking that vacation made you rusty after all, Princess!"—echoing their heart-to-heart on Angel Island. Vector and Charmy roar with laughter over the upset odds; Tails chuckles behind his hand while murmuring about prism refraction; Amy tries to shush Tangle while failing to hide her own giggles; Silver lets out a nervous, relieved laugh just glad nobody got burned; and even polite little Cream lets out a tiny, involuntary "Tee-hee!" at the foam mustache on Blaze’s muzzle before gasping and covering her mouth. Up on the ridge, Rouge smirks behind her glove ("Beaten by a literal bug... priceless"), while Shadow merely closes his eyes, turns away, and lets out a quiet, devastating "Hmph".These are some good lines made me kek
Not gonna lie, Amybros were being a tad hypocritical with the bio incident. When they came for Sally and retconned her relationship with Sonic people justified it by saying that her being Sonic's love interest was never an important part of her characterization, that it made it better, etc., showing no respect for what constituted the most basic design of her character. They didn't complain, they welcomed it. But when such is suggested to be happening to Amy, it's a crisis. Had you banded together and fought to maintain the integrity of Sally's character, maybe even Amy would better maintain her own today.And I say this while I consider Archie Sonic a completely separate and inferior version of the story, but it serves as a lesson for posterity. It can happen to Amy, with time, and that's not a good thing like it wasn't with Sally.
>>587655998I would call Ian a lot of things but stupid is not one of them. He made a living off of his podcast, aping the entire Sonic IP without permission for over a decade and he only got caught and stopped because of an autistic shipperfag. You can call him a scumbag for doing that but you need to have at least some level of intelligence beyond normies to be able to do that for that long.I think Ian's biggest vice is just that he's a lazy, indignant asshole.
>>587656697>they never bothered iterating on it onceBut then it wouldn't feel fresh anymore! The Sonic series is about moving forward and doing new things. Unless it's that branch of the series that's all about being stuck in the past. Speaking of, enjoy quickstepping through Green Hill again in the new Modern Sonic game.
Why is no one freaking out that an AI is like producing stuff that is on par or better than official material? like we've reached the point where you can't even really call it slop if you are comparing it to official recent Sonic material
a franchise for idiots by idiots
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idCfuK4t2vo
>>587656026>Fifth Phantom Saga got cancelled>Big budget next gen Sonic game gets cancelled and the last founding remember of ST leaves Sega>Sonic Team USA closes two years later after NiGHTS:JoD failsHow does ST and Sonic as a franchise survive this series of events?
Do you still care about canon?They don't.
>>587656717Sonic x Knuckles shipper who draws Knuckles being raped and tortured
>>587656989Good question, they did not.
>>587657021I don't care about slop released after 2006
>>587656743Because Iizuka has no idea what he's doing and is just saying whatever he thinks his bosses want to hear.
>>587657070>who draws Knuckles being raped and torturedPretty standard for Knuckles nowadays
>>587656838Sally's existence alone was a compromise with Soa marketing. not the equivalent
>>587656883He's only more intelligent than his fans. Anyone with a brain could tell from the beginning he was a fraud. That's why other fabdoms don't tolerate him or care about him. Don't glaze this dude as smart.
>>587656920What is your point?
>>587657021Who is "they"?
>>587656019Serving Silver then
>>587657021They keep pretending they do.
Jewel? Only good for sexTangle? Only good for sexWhisper? Only good for sexLanolin? Only good for sex
>>587655449*Headpats your OC*?
>these interviewsAt last, you all see.
>>587657323See what?
>>587656813Perhaps it's better to make Blaze into a joke after all, i mean she's such an easy target and everybody wants some equality right?
>>587652908Nine escapes from the final battle using jury rigged Chaos Control using stolen Sonic's energy and ends up in the middle of a battle between two enemy cavalries in snow storm. Curiously there are no riders. And one of the fliers has a very familiar voice.Now both Equestrian and Sombra forces have to deal with "angry, demonic metal spider fox using unknown magics".
>>587657202Sega and the Lore Team. They keep using the word "canon" to increase engagement and make more money by making you think this Sonic thing matters more than it actually is.
Kit getting raped by Tangle...
>>587656883was it gabs who took bumblekast? what exactly happened?
>>587657084Unironically, 06 probably save ST, despite its reputation it sold pretty well.
why does Iizuka talk like a LLM?
>>587657510Cool, now imagine if it wasn't shit
They literally just copied the homework of the OVA but replaced the characters with their Prime counterparts. This series has no shred of originality left. No wonder it looks like Sonic might actually die in another decade.
>>587657276>Lanolin? Only good for sexwe already know that, Shadow
>>587657629Machine translation
I wonder what Random's opinions on those interviews are going to be because Iizuka is just straight up denying everything he's saying about there being a central core canon or idea to the series. The people in charge of this franchise are literally just spitballing ideas as they go along and then post-hoc rationalize it.
>>587657463Kit getting raped by Starline.this is canon>>587657629Because he's answering questions in Japanese and his answers are getting interpreted by a translator.
>>587656589Iizuka plz, we've been trying to reinvent Generations for almost half of the franchise's lifespan. Also I still fail to see how "open zone" is so revolutionary that it needs its own "era" as stated here. Am I too retarded to understand a rail section/minigame/miniboss in an otherwise empty sandbox? Am I falling for PR fluff again?
>>587657629He has no will of his own. He just speaks in PR. You rarely hear his actual opinion on things except maybe when it comes to Shadow.
>>587657686No way the dude is fluent in English
>>587657629lizuka, is a machine.
>>587653619>Iizuka also shares how the Sonic characters have evolved throughout the years. He recounts how back then, certain characters were only created at the time as rivals to Sonic, and they were not thinking too much about what came after. So it came as a surprise that some characters really stood out.Glares at Blaze and Silver....
>>587657691He's already been on his "I don't pay attention to anything after 2017" spiel for a while. I think he's probably just going to come to the same conclusion all lorefags do with this franchise. Throw his hands up, call the whole series shit and then close his account. I've seen that song and dance play out at least a dozen times by now.
>>587657780>Sonic using Metal Sonic as a proxy to wrap his hand around Amy's arm
>>587657629He's a corporate executive.
>>587657276Jewel? Only good for running the RestorationTangle? Only good for climbing them ruinsWhisper? Only good for UUUULanolin
>>587657691Sonic canon fractured after 06. It was put in a coma with Colors. It officially died with Forces.
>>587657691Preserving Sonic’s Core Identity – Speed Above AllWhen asked what Sonic can never lose, Iizuka-san went straight to the obvious answer, but his reasoning says a lot about how Sega views the character today. “When people hear the name Sonic, everyone thinks of speed,” he said. “They think of a fast character. For Sonic, that speed is the most important element.” For Iizuka-san, that idea has to carry across every version of Sonic. “No matter if it’s games, movies, animation, or any other form of media, it’s important that Sonic’s speed is always represented and emphasized across everything we do.”Sonic now exists in several places at once. The games are still the center of the franchise, but the character also reaches people through films, animation, comics, merchandise, and live events. Iizuka-san doesn’t frame those projects as distractions from the games. He sees them as different entry points. As he explained, “The people making the games are professionals. Their focus is on continuing to make great Sonic games.”
Sonic was never good
CYUUTE~
Being a lorefag and obsessing over canon in this franchise has got to be one of the most masochistic hobbies I'm aware of. The fucking creators of the franchise change this shit almost every 2-4 years.
>>587656920The Google anon isn't writing better than IDW, it's writing the same slop faster and for free. Same quips, same "Sonic says something cheeky, everyone laughs" beats, same nothing characters standing around reacting. It read the Flynn formula and printed it out in thirty seconds. That's not a win for AI, that's an indictment of the formula.The actual freakout should be that a chatbot trained on fanfic can hit "on brand, mandate friendly" with zero effort and Sega still can't. Meanwhile Ian gets paid per script to produce the exact same output. His job is the buggy whip factory now and nobody's told him.
>>587652758cute and canon
https://youtu.be/6wEmyhGH99Y
>>587657276
>>587657390
Why aren't the Chaotix, Silver, Blaze, Cream and Zeti marketable?
>>587658112It'll hurt more since they now pretend to care about canon and organized a "lore team" for it even though are just as, if not more, inconsistent.
>>587654707Boom Amy saved her.
>>587657857Yes, yes he is.
>>587658082>Metal Sonic is more charming than Sonic... Maybe he IS the real one.
We are officially now at the "nothing fucking mattes anymore" stage of the franchise. Do you guys know the next stage after that?Protip: It starts with D and rhymes with Beth.
>>587657817You're not seeing the full vision yet. Here's Kishimoto's response to your doubtshttps://x.com/moq_46/status/1621858741649051648>The third generation refers to the first generation as 2D stage-clearing action games and the second generation as 3D stage-clearing action games, and positions the third generation as the game mechanics of next-generation stage-clearing action games.>Actually, there is a hidden meaning to using the term "third generation," but I believe now is not the time to reveal it.
Fuckmeat the cat (lesbian version)
>>587658082The backhand never gets old.
>>587655086Shut up bitch, the Chaotix in general don't care about Sonic.
>>587655629I almost missed it but his arm is around her
>>587658296Totally not friends though.
>>587656161*everyone does
Headcanonchads just can't stop winning.*sobs uncontrollably*
/sthg/, at last you finally understand your rage, anger and murderous intents, all justified, however your targets are much boarder than you anticipated, for eons you assumed the enemy was just the west, however at last you see, the east bares no innocence either, the enemies are all around you, there are no safe havens save for your own resistance, you alone can save and fix the sonic franchise but only a few of you for there are enemies within these general threads as well.
>>587658393gross
>>587658296>Shadow and Team Dark aren’t friendskek
Chris just randomly coming out to state Blade of Courage wasn't canon even though we had Iizuka say he wanted the franchise to have synergy and connected was the first sign that this franchise is driving blind again.
>cool animation just released let's see what sthg is talking about>muh canon>muh bio>muh IizukaWhy are you like this
>>587656838Why are you falseflagging and lying?
>>587657426https://poe.com/s/a6o2PhYG8QDuXz3OF9qf>>587655163https://poe.com/s/WrFVeXrmYRhu6ZYtZvd7
>>587654414The anniversary special gave this SHITdowfag traumatic amnesia. For this SHITdowfag to dickride SHITdow even after seeing him fail to land a hit Metal even w/ assistance and get utterly raped by the latter's Super Form, which happens seconds after this moment, the SHITdowfag must have blacked out mid-video and forgotten these scenes to cope.
>>587658672we've already spent 2 whole threads talking about it, now we are talking about the broader implications on the franchise.
>>587658632The east just gave up. The west is trying to influence (taint) the franchise as much as possible before the plug is pulled. It's gonna be a sad, depressing sight.
>>587656883>because of an autistic shipperfagThis isn’t true as funny as it sounds. Around the time before the podcast shit down sonic shit, people were posting podcast clips that went viral from discourse, which no doubt caught the attention of Sega. Incidentally, Ian prior to this has said not to post his clips because of the possibility of it getting back to Sega lol
>>587653569if the plot is shit the script and writing are going to be shit. the first begets the latter
>>587656838>SALLYSALLYSALLY>OH GUYS SALLY HAD IT SO MUCH WORSE
>Cool animation comes out on schedule>/sthg/: Its so fucking over its never been more overI knew you guys would seethe.
It'll take one flop from the movies to kill this franchise entirely. Be warned.
and now for the chaser, hoooooouuuuugh.
>>587658672>Why are you like thisDo you want us to talk about how the english voice acting sounds like shit ?
>>587658376>Sonic finally diesI am not afraid. It is peace. It is... salvation
Could Gemini 4 Carbon recreate an IDW Sonic issue script, and then be turned into a comic again by another model? Try issue 50
>>587658902I finally realized this franchise would rehash the same plot beats over and over again.This short could actually be written by AI with no issue.
i wasted 25 years of my life
>>587658902That's because you don't see the big picture. This franchise has a time limit.
>>587657665>No wonder it looks like Sonic might actually die in another decade.I don't think the franchise will die, but I do feel like the game series is running out of gas in the tank. I think some sort of shift is coming soon in which we're either getting a reboot or the games lose relevance for other media.
>>587658337Vector is
>muh eastJapan has never, and will never. care about Sonic the Hedgehog. Even Sega of Japan themselves wanted to cancel the IP. JP audiences do not like the blue rat. They don't play his games. They barely know who he is. Let it go.
>>587658902
>>587659012Yes, it was always those damn emeralds. Every single time.
>>587659001Nta, but I never wanted Sonic to die like... this.
>>587659132Also anon:>Belle is popular in japan!
>Sonic fans are very passionate, often calling for remakes or remasters. I would personally love to see Black Knight, Unleashed, or Sonic Heroes make a comeback. Are there any games that you would like to revisit?>For me, the challenge is that remaking a game properly requires much more than improving its graphics. We would need to reconsider the controls, level design, technology, presentation, and many other elements, so the experience meets the expectations of players today. In some cases, that could require almost as much time and effort as developing an entirely new game.To me this sounds like getting rid of what fans of those games liked.
>>587658351Boom Amy was okay in the pilot and went off the deep end like all modernshit
>>587657629He's the CEO of Sonic
>>587656838While I do agree that it’s an example of forced change, her writing was already compromised with Archie in the first place since she’s a SatAM character. Sega forcing the reboot to comply with their guidelines aka vetoing preboot shit including any relationships with game characters was always inevitable. The shit with Amy represents a newer change, something we’ve been seeing in newer media with forced girl boss shit.
>>587658939It survived worse, 3 times.
>seeing unironic ai lovewhat the fuck is wrong with you faggots
>>587658757Thanks, this'll do.
>>587659174Bootlicker.
>>587659090The other media isn't doing good either outside the movies, nigga. You think the games are the only weak link here?
>>587658902yeah, film consists of visuals and plotvisuals are good, they should have already made a series out of thatbut the plot is cheesy and something we've seen 15 times in the last 5 yearssonic since 2021 is one big self-worship, without any plans to go forwardwhere did sonic friends go after frontiers? nowhere, they're still clinged to sonic the fucking hedgehog
>>587659243I highly doubt that, but go right ahead and deflect if it helps you cope, I guess.
>>587658981When are we getting the spanish dub? Or the german, or the japanese I'd rather listen to anything but RCS
>>587655629>>587658576This puts a smile on my face. They're perfect
>>587658790SHITnictard acting like the blue faggot could keep up with his own Super form when in reality he's a Mephiles victim. Your GOAT vs the same enemy btw, literally Knuckles tier jobber.
>>587656697I like how Ocean Base Zone is taking after Chaotix's vertical level design they never bother to utilize again until Mania's Chemical Plant Zone Act 2
>>587659396She is not Rouge. Shut up.
>>587656226Memory of a goldfish. You can tell who the dumbest people are by whether or not they point to this as some kind of counter to something that happened after.
https://www.pockettactics.com/sonic-35th-anniversary-interviewAs a role-playing fiend, I have to ask: Do you think Sonic could get another RPG?I also enjoy RPGs very much, and I have said before that I would like to create a Sonic RPG someday. The format offers many possibilities for exploring the world, characters, relationships, and stories in greater depth.It is actually surprising that Sonic Team itself has not created a full Sonic RPG during all these years. Sonic has such a large cast now, and many of those characters have abilities that could work very well together in a party-based adventure.At present, I cannot promise that such a project will happen or share any plans for one. However, it remains a genre that interests me personally, and I would certainly be happy to have the opportunity to explore what a modern Sonic RPG created by Sonic Team could be.Will Iizuka ever get his dream Sonic Team RPG?
>>587656665You love Supersharts and Sonic 4 a whole lot
>>587659132The west doesn't care much about Sonic either since he always gets mugged by loads of other video game franchises. It just cares about it more than Japan. The only time Sonic has been widely acknowledged by the west is just from the movies and I can ensure you most of the watchers don't engage with the franchise at large.
>>587659421Japanese has been up for a while. Sonic haters just like to yap.
>>587659598Sonic Forces would've been the best opportunity and they fucked that up
>>587657276>Jewel? Only good for sexJewel is good enough to be my wife, but she's also great for sex.
>>587653354the Metalkek's seething again
Fucking WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZE!
>>587659598Never. Spin offs are dead/dying even in most other multi media franchises let alone Sonic which already had a past failed experiment.
>>587659643We wouldn't have gotten those games if the experimental shit didn't tank the franchise's reputation
>>587659362It's Sega, they're cheap af and this has sonamy on it.
Taking small yamaka sized requests
>>587659842What's OGN
>everyone has stopped trying because they know there is no vision for this franchise and the fact it could die once the movies stop carrying itGrimnic.
>>587659647Sonic is in tons of western movies.
>>587659842Wtf.... Sonic made Cobain kill himself? I thought he was supposed to be the inspiring spirit of the wind?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVXGhBm0v2g
>>587659892More like SoA being trendchasers, the 2000s was in that 80s-90s nostalgiashit wave at the time.
>>587659737https://www.videogameschronicle.com/features/interviews/sonic-frontiers-interview-fans-dont-yet-understand-what-this-new-gameplay-is/How challenging is it to make a game that appeals to both old and new fans, especially since the most engaged audience seems to have a very specific idea of what they expect from a Sonic game?From my perspective, it’s not so much about old and new fans, it’s really more about the game genre and the types of games that people like. I see a core fanbase of people who really like the 2D side-scrolling format, and people who really like the 3D action format. Trying to put those both together to make everyone happy doesn’t really work.For me, the only way to make those fans happy is to deliver the game formats that people want.2017 was one of those examples, where we delivered Sonic Mania and Sonic Forces to the two different fan types in the same year, and everyone was happy. So moving forwards, we want to make sure we’re making the genres that are hitting these audiences.
>>587659598>It is actually surprising that Sonic Team itself has not created a full Sonic RPG during all these years.Oh wow, just straight up trying to pretend Chronicles doesn't exist. This man fears getting raped and gaped by Penders. >However, it remains a genre that interests me personally, and I would certainly be happy to have the opportunity to explore what a modern Sonic RPG created by Sonic Team could be.Wha... Just fuckin' do then, you stupid bastard. Sonic sells(for some god forsaken reason), RPGs sell. This isn't exactly a tough pitch. Moron.
>>587658393Cnc
>>587659932metal sonic with green eyes choking silver with missing teeth
>>587660063you mean 70s / 80s?
Sonic was never good when you really think about it.
Oh you finally went Super without going chunni? Very cute.Let's go for gold next big bro.
>>587660143It says "Sonic Team itself". They didn't make Chronicles.
>>587659932Seconding >>587660161Make metal kill silver
>>587659647You're absolutely right. I'm just saying the JP purists are out of their minds.
I just finished reading the blaze-silver miniYeah no shot that guy's not Starline, Blackwood's "WAAHHH I'M AWESOME AND EVERYBODY SHOULD BOW BEFORE ME BY FORCE" as well as him being defeated his hynosis not working because he burned it out too much and being defeated by a shock is exactly how Starline's plans began to fall apart when Surge did the same thing to him thus the "i saw myself within you" lineAnd since he's likely behind Tangle and Whisper's little scrap and Surge and Kit's little adventure as well as per the monitors, chaptr 100 is going to begin the return of Starline.Everybody he's been harassing is someone he's ran afoul of when he was still relatively unknown, the only group he hasn't attacked yet are the Chaotix
>>587660243The cartoons and comics are good, not the games.
>>587660143He said a Sonic RPG made by Sonic Team, not by Bioware. He wants to be the one who works on it>Just fuckin' do thenThese decisions need approval from the higher ups
>>587659003Here I am rewriting the script to Issue 50!https://poe.com/s/1oY3KmqdAeoSXwxDa84K
>>587659932Kitsunami trying mint and suffering from a mint allergy.
Maria Robotnik's butt
>>587659932JC Denton saying "Damn, I think we're going to have to add this guy to the list of NSF casualties Tails."Tails next to him with sunglasses, a trench coat and a GEP gun saying "I'm already on it."
Cooked franchise.
imagine if sega was just rehashing classic sonic in 1996and in 2001and in 2006they would have gotten nowhere is they just masturbated every 5 years and did nothing for the other 4
>>587653756What does "OC" stand for? "Original Character." What's something all of these "characters" lack? Originality.Needing to base your work off an already existing IP is literally the antithesis of being "original." If anything, it's less creative, having to follow the rules.There's no way to make it work. If it's too disconnected from the world, there's no reason it needs to be set in the world. If it's too connected to the world, you're taking pre-existing media and changing it to fit your tastes. If you have to do that, then there's no reason it needs to be set in the world.For example, Woefag admitted to stealing the idea for his "character" right from the comics. Doesn't sound creative or fun.Even then, it's all the same shit all over again.Hedgehog, cat, wolf. Hedgehog, cat, wolf. You may eventually find one that's different, but you're wading through piles of shit just to find more shit. It's a drag and drop of elements and colors that would be better suited for a goddamn coloring book or a flash game for preschoolers.There's plenty of places to talk about this shit if you want to. There's (for some reason) even on OC board over on /trash. Just because you base your creation off the franchise, that doesn't mean people will want to see your parade around your "characters."And the biggest reason they suck? They're boring. I have not seen a single reason why I should care for any of them. These are uncreative, derivative, off-topic cancers that only exist than to suck off the egos of the low-IQ troglodytes who are sad enough to make them.Congrats, you're Chris-Chan tier.
>>587659362The latest animation might as well have been written by AI.
>>587660498This. Kill Surge
>>587660338>He said a Sonic RPG made by Sonic Team, not by Bioware. He wants to be the one who works on itYeah I know, and he was very aggressively ignoring the word 'another'. >These decisions need approval from the higher upsLike I said, it's not a tough pitch. So why the hell hasn't he just gone to the board with a piece of paper that has "Sonic RPG" written on it?
>>587660338>587660143 #>He said a Sonic RPG made by Sonic TeamYou and i know that's not gonna happen, the moment they decided to do a Sonic RPG, it'll be greenlit with Atlus as the lead developer, because SEGA higher-ups are shit for brains.>inb4 no-tasters say le goodWhile i lay down reality, a Sonic RPG shouldn't be the 1000th reskinned Persona game.
>>587659842I can't believe President Abraham Tower said this four score and core four ago...
>>587660338does sonic team even have RPG experience? especially since a Sonic RPG would likely have to have a kingdom hearts like battle system because turn based combat would piss everybody off too much characters known for constantly moving standing in a fucking row? Get real nobody would accept that todaynot only that, but RPGs typically have 10 to 8 characters we have our core 4 but who would join them between team dark, team chaotix, blaze, silver, cream, gemerl, ariem, the classic 7? new character or characters?
cnc!good night
Knuxouge won today
>>587659507Retardniggerbaboondowfag conveniently ignores that Sonic got his life force drained as well...
>>587660084Iizuka explaining why we can't have Sonic Adventure rereleases with good graphics:As somebody who made the Adventure series, when I go back and think of what I would like to do to make the old games more of an experience for the modern audience, there are lots of things I have in my mind that I want to do.But if we just talk about remastering these titles, to me that’s just about making the graphics nicer and polishing up a couple of things… it’s the same game but looking prettier and that’s not what I want to do. There’s lots more work that I would want to put into creating a new Sonic Adventure game. That’s why there’s no remaster.
feces
>>587659932Dead Woe/Woefag
>>587659932Manga Drago, Imada style.
>>587660717Wow they are standing next to each other shadamyfags are pathetic
>>587660646How do you know he hasn't and they didn't say no
>>587660738Shadow had Inhibitor rings still which means he was like at 5% of his full power.
Looking at the recent comics, the games, movies, it becomes evident Sonic has lost its appeal to audience. The fans are gone, you can barely find any fan works worth speaking about when it comes to Sonic. Its been a while since SEGA has released anything Sonic related.I'd give it like a generous 3 months until the whole IP is disappeared.
>>587660682>>587660682>a Sonic RPG shouldn't be the 1000th reskinned Persona gameWhy not? I mean, you're kinda threatening me with a good time here.
>>587660778Holy. Freaking. BAAAAAASED.
>>587658351No, BoomAmy derailed her for no reason
/sthg/ is out of touch with Sonic and the rest of the fandom
Knuxouge, Shadouge and Sonouge won big today!
>>587659932Metal and Silver kissing because they are lovers in the future
>Knuxouge won today
How will sonic fans defend the eventual AI writing in the franchise?
In 2017 everyone was happy, Mania satisfied fans of 2D Sonic aka Classic and Forces satisfied fans of 3D Sonic aka Modern
>>587661005Knuckles, Shadow, and Sonic all reject the batcel.
>>587660825what are the studio giggex shorts
So Duofag is falling back to his mousetrap baitposting since the short wrecked his aggressive Sonurge headcanon spree, am i correct?
>>587660878Then how shit of a businessman is he that he somehow failed to pitch a game that combines two of the only genres that make Sega any money?
Rouge will die alone.
>>587659932Wholesome classic sonamy headpatting, please... WITHOUT cockblocking Ian or Chris or anyone or anything obscuring the view, PLEASE!
>Distant hearty laughing can be heard ringing throughout the halls of SEGA HQ.>It is most noticeable within Sonic Team's studio.
>>587661051>>>>>>
>>587659932sonic and amy dressed up as tomoya and nagisa from clannad
kek
Sonic Booms existence is enough evidence that SoJ is bad. So is Sonic 06. The proof is very obvious
>>587660958Because that's all they been making since SMTIV and TMS (the modern template) dropped
>>587659932Amy and Marine giggling
>>587661252haha le funni reference
>>587661027Having the /sthg/ AI models shit on an AI model might be incest.
>>587661152Yes
>>587661252Put a Metal Sonic arm there
>>587659932Rouge the batcel drinking because no male will fuck her
>>587660682>While i lay down reality, a Sonic RPG shouldn't be the 1000th reskinned Persona game.A better idea would be to copy the exact same gameplay Mario & Luigi superstar has and make a sonic rpg game with it and make it 2d instead of 3d.
>>587661154>chasing after autistsits her own fault
>>587661252Dougebag...
Bring her back, you filthy cowards!
>>587661026>stood next to each other>somehow this is a huge victoryknuxougekeks really are the biggest kwabs
>>587661252You can tell when a franchise is about to end when it starts referencing DBZ
>>587661280Sonic Boom was made by SoA after they took over the franchise.
>>587661496They'll take literally anything they can get.
Just watched the short. Today was a good, albiet rare, day to be a Metal fan.
>>587661461She'll get them eventually.
>>587661410Were it so easy
>>587661252I thought Ian didn't like sweatin ball z
>>587660958I mean Digimon made a pretty good game recently by aping the shit out of Persona
>>587661636>Sonic is about to end since the beginning
Knuckles will never fuck you.Shadow will never fuck you.Sonic will never fuck you.Not even Tails will fuck you.You are a smelly scheming bat.
>The Sonaze shitter ran off to /v/ to push his ship there without getting pushbackIncredible how many anons in here got so pissed off at the animation that they just straight up left and started posting on other boards.Absolute tard destruction.
>>587661496>rouge gets saved by knuckles>they’re seen having fun togetherits a good win
>>587661636So Sonic was about to end 30 years ago.>>587661471wtf does that comment have to do with Douge?
>>587659932British Sally interviewing American Sally. It gets weird. Flirting doesn't help the situation.
>>587661410even better idea, ripoff Kingdom Hearts and replace whatever dogshit ass was Frontiers combat.
>>587661636>Sonic has been a straight ripoff of DBZ since the beginningSo it's always been over? That makes entirely too much sense.
>>587661787She was made for humans anyway.
>>587659932Honey inviting Tails to her studio and getting freaked out because one of his fox bullies is now a fur coat and the other's a headless rug, with their heads mounted on the wall with "schmucks" written under it, meanwhile Honey says inSpanish that this is tye fateof those who break ÑÑÑ (Spanish "No Nut November") and asking if Tails is sure he wants to proceed.
>>587661794There's a Shadamyfag in /co/ too and I can tell he's the same one who comes on here. Some of you guys are hilarious.
>>587661832Nicole is watching, and has mixed feelings about it.
>>587661769Because Persona became the current face of JRPGs while Final Fantasy is kneeling and became the follower (see Final Fantasy Resonance)
SHITouge will never bag CHADckles or CHADow.
>>587661806>everyone was taking turns on Metal Sonic meaning they were saving each other>couldn't even look at or acknowledge her while "saving her"It's getting sad Knigglesister...
>>587661927Honey sounds like the type who takes NNN literally and threatens to snip Tails' balls with the ball snipper 3000 then take pictures of his flat perineum wearing panties
>>587661787Bold of you to assume Rouge is going to give Tails a choice.
>>587662141>Rouge's delusion Neither want you
So, I'm late. but that animation was great. It wa a huge win for onebrandism and too much to say in one sitting so I'm not even going to try.IF there is a negative, though, it's that it was still 75% reminishitting. My confidence in Sonic, the whole series, can only be reignited if they commit to making new stories rather than clinging to old ones as a crutch. I'll expand more on this.But in general the action was great, the story was right where it needed to be, and even the reminishitting was used as a function in the story rather than just reminishitting for the sake of nostalgiafagging.
>>587659842>If more Sonic games come out, I don't know what I'm going to do with myself.
>>587662491Kys
you faggots know ai is the reason why im without a job, right?
>>587662491Don't read the Iizuka interviews in this thread. It'll kill any hope you ever had.
>>587662491>reminishittingI like this word
>>587662184She IS known as nutcracker girl.
lizuka the lizard
>>587662215I wish Rouge groomed me when I was younger.
>>587653119Now that Amy has officially given up on Sonic does that mean Surgamy actually has a chance?
>>587662663qrd?
In the next game Amy goes into atheist and feminist adventure, and learns to never rely on Sonic anymore, but the Sonic fanbase will excuse this because Sonic CD flashback showed her loving Sonic, and that's okay, it's still here
>>587661003I'm even more out of touch. I haven't been here in months and only came back cause of all the anniversary stuff.
>>587663053Iizuka contradicting himself multiple times and softly admitting they have no idea what they're doing without directly saying it."We make our games the way we expect our fans to like them and want them."
>>587663053It's the usual stuff. Like this>We do realise – and this is our strategy – that Sonic Origins, which is a 2D side-scrolling game, is going to be really liked by some people, so we’re delivering that to the audience, and fans that want that content are going to get it. There will be other fans who are expecting a 3D action game that’s more serious, and that’s what Sonic Frontiers is coming out to be. It’s about getting these different groups in our wide base of fans excited about what we’re delivering. The challenge is, now that we have these different groups of people who all want different things, how are we going to keep bringing more content to this wider audience?This is the strategy that satisfies everyone
>>587663129This scene doesn't make sense for Sage either. It's surprising because this was written by ST and this is the one major contradiction I've seen so far in their version of Sage's character development (Ian's version contradicts itself every 5 seconds more or less)
i really want the sonic verse to do something like zelda's cities with its "outlander" anthro specieslike, give them whole civilizations based on their animal groupings with cultures, ecosystems and whatnotlike, imagine the continents of unleashed but for non-humans
>>587662889Sure. Everyone in this franchise is a bisexual polyamorous whore, and you cannot convince me otherwise.
why are we homophobic
>>587662141>meaning they were saving each othercopedougefags would have been losing their minds if it was shadow saving rouge instead of knuckles
>>587663483reminder that she drew art of shadow having sex with tikal and the first thing he thought of before getting intimate was maria
>>587661403>What in the hell was Metal Sonic thinking?! I don't wanna see a draw, I wanna see a win!
>>587663483Didn't she say Amy moving on from Sonic was good
Reminder that the fanbase also ate 2-second long fight vs Gemerl in Shadow Generations and unanimously called it peak
>>587663936Any Emerl representation is peak in my book
Memories and Beyond is our big anniversary release
>>587658902>trusting /sthg/'s opinion on anythinglol, lmao even
Thanks for your Respect and Trust guys!>Wasn't there more?Nah pretty sure that was it.
>that single animation frame where it really did not need a black void because the area was so small you could have just colored it in pink and nobody would have cared but they put the black void anywayBlack voids are the "E for Everyone" version of panty shots.
>>587663483In general, his faces don't seem appealing in this short.
>>587662889I would be more on board with this ship if they had ANY interactions WHATSOEVER.
>>587659795RIIIIIIGHT in the face anon. don't forget my words of wisdom.
>me when I am enjoying seeing /sthg/ finally realize that Sega doesn't care and never didThere is no canon. Just enjoy whatever and stop getting into stupid fights online.
>>587659932Starroline taking his coffin for a nice candlelit dinner
>>587653663I want to ____ that bird
>>587659932Sonic realizing that he, and everyone he knows dont have a neck.
>>587661889Not true. In the beginning Sonic ripped off Dr.Slump.
Is Amy Rose rugged or classy
>>587663720>She left because "this place is full of sexist bigots."Nah, that ain't it, she just sucks at drawing.
>>587664016You suck cocks
It's still completely insane to me that Rouge and Jewel have not had a single interaction.
>>587662889UNF
>>587656838Sally loved a Sonic with an entirely different characterization that required character development for her to truly settle with. It isn't the same. Her love for Sonic was always on thin ice and wasn't going to last with game Sonic. Sally isn't Amy and doesn't desperately wait for a man.
>>587664346Oh what the fuck. Is there ANYTHING original in this godforsaken franchise?
I got bad spawn RNG being a Sonic Fan
>>587664482>Sally isn't Amy and doesn't desperately wait for a man.NTA *cough* MXYL
>>587656838You can remove Sally's crush from Satam and three scenes would disappear
>>587663158>We make our games the way we expect our fans to like them and want themThat's not so bad...I kind of expected as much.>>587663183I don't like his way of thinking, personally, but it makes sense.
I wish I could escape this place
>>587664585Hedgehog protagonist?
Is Amy satisfied with Sonic not wanting a relationship, or does she keep pushing further and further for one? Like does she like the current dynamic they have or want more?
>>587664482Then the universe rebooted, and she hooked up with her bestie/PDA.
>>587664662Yes, that's a different universe and severely ooc behavior likely because that just isn't the same girl. If Sonic refuses to develop in Sally's direction, he's failing the test of character the ship is made for. Like Hercules and Meg or Simba with Nala. As a result she moves on. Do you disagree?
>>587664701Read this >>587655763
^-^
Have the Emeralds ever done this?I mean i guess they did in Sonic 1, but that's Sonic 1, usually the Emeralds stick around or if they get lost its because they were in some space station that was blowing up.
>>587663483There’s no problem with making that face at Tails. Making it at Shadow makes no sense as anything other than fujobaiting
>>587664585What did you expect from a franchise where Sonic and Amy are just Mickey and Minnie?
>>587663471Post the rest.
>>587664795Thankfully, the series was canceled before they could commit to such an atrocity.
>>587664946Frontiers and Origins
>>587664962Look at that cute rat!
>>587664962
Why did Krack lose her shit earlier today?
>>587664916>As a result she moves on. Do you disagree?She should've have, but not to Shadow. Both Penders and Flynn were wrong. Only one Sally should logically be with would've been Monkey Khan.
>>587664795Option : Ian FlynnSally is forcibly broken up from Sonic by Sega of Japan and Ian tries to pair her with a machineOption: Ken PendersSonic continues to choose adventure over settling down. Shadow ends up taking Sally on as her husband.
>>587659932Lanolin naked dogeza
>>587664746Beatrix Potter with Mrs. Tiggy-Winkle had Sonic beat by 90 years.
>>587664207I'm unironically just demoralized at this point. I don't even care anymore. I guess shiptards get to have their win but it was at the cost of literally everything including the integrity of the franchise itself.
Shadow is asexual
>>587664346
>tfw I suddenly realize that Sally is basically just furry Leia... Sigh. StH really is an entire franchise made of plagiarism.
>>587665284Deer pussy.
>>587665357A sexual what?
>>587665328Sonic's great-grandmother...
>>587664776the chase is the point, but lardass americans seem to have trouble with that idea
>>587665274I can believe she'd like Shadow, Knuckles, and maybe Espio but I agree that what Penders did is just as bad if not worse and people are praising it just because they hate how Archie handled Sonic. Shadow settling down is also just as ridiculous as with Sonic. The only person he would do that for is dead.
>>587665357Maekawa updooted pics of them fucking
>>587665284Silver rapes that
>>587665089Wasn't Frontiers due to the Titans stealing them?Origins is just Sonic 1, and you know, that's Sonic 1.
>>587664346>>587665363It's cute seeing sumizoomies in 2020 + 6 have absolutely no idea that this is actually canon.
Sonamy wonSonadow won
>>587663129Who even wrote this and why? Amy would be the last person in the franchise to doubt the existence of God, gods, and a spiritual realm
>>587665238Dougebro...
>>587665354>Sonic the Hedgehog>integrityBro, the first game was a shameless cash grab banking on the trends of the totally radical aesthetic of the 90s, and the popularity of mascots.
>>587665481But Sally wasn't dead
>>587665238It is a day that ends in y
Chris
>>587664346The emblem design was a common feature of some previous Sega games' title screens
>>587665392Why would kirbo do this?
>>587662491>has the dumbass weasel and racing birds>but no sally, no bunnie, no nicole>even has the fucking green fighting bird>no mentions of ANY of the freedom fighters
>>587657276Yes, they're all one-off eye candies.
>>587664346And Mario. Don't forget Mario. That was like the whole point.
>>587665382Not until she kisses Elias in front of Shadow.
>>587665563>Arale is fasterHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
>>587656838It's within Sally as a character to drop the chase. It was never that for Amy. Both handlings of it and were bad.
>>587663483'Homophobic' is a meaningless neologism used by people with a victim and entitlement complex
>>587665910To get Teirusu's powers
At the start of Frontiers, Eggman just wanted to use the Ancients' secrets for his purposes, but he never gets the chance to. Maybe he will use them in the next game.
Americans are awesome and super. They are super awesome.
>>587666105But the Korb is already cute and can fly. What could he possibly need from Tails?
>>587656226Because nothing's going to change.
>>587664916Archiefags would agree with you if they read Archie. Sally isn't a chaser like Amy. Ian having her give up when Sonic wasn't an option any more was in character.
>>587665916As it should be.>muh spinballHah. GG only.
>>587666105>>587666198Peak boy!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>587666329Foxy boy!
>>587666198Tails swipe>>587666329Yeah!
>>587664946The good ending to both Sonic 1 games does this.>>587665519By Origins, they mean the animation between Sonic 1 and CD.
>>587654065Like Luffy and his crew.
>>587666245>Ian having her give upIan made her wait 25 years
>>587665626Sonamy won. Sonadow is non-canon yaoislop
>>587652758
>>587663490In this special they had Rouge admit how much Shadow meant to her.Shadow saving her would have showed he returned those feelings and had way more meaning.But instead we got fuckboy Knuckles to appease a small percent of shippers who refused to move on.Fuck
Kitsunami should be written like ObotchamanI'm probably the only person in this thread who has watched Dr. Slump. What that means is Kitails
>>587665274I want to talk about how Ian made Monkey Khan OOC so he could work as an option (Opposite of what he did to Fiona) but that discussion isn't going to work here
>>587666460mobians dont have calves like thatadam is going the leifeld's route, he even draws feet the same way
Unbeatable.Unbreakable.Immutable.
Nicole won the Sally bowl.
>>587663129>atheistAmy is OCCULTIC
>>587665626Knuckouge won Shadouge won
>>587666545I trust you even though I don't know Dr. Slump
>>587666638Why is it that no matter which writer is in charge Sally is destined to end up with a heartless artificial creature
Krack and Duo lost. Shadouge and Sonamy won bigly.
>>587666405Yeah but Sonic 1 is ....Sonic 1. The rules of the series weren't really set in place at the time, and most game don't really consider it, they usually start with 2 like in SA1.Do any other games have the Emeralds scatter like that?
>>587666545I watched like two episodes of it before I lost interest.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x50rJMnur_0
It's overSonic has become the Amazing Digital Circus
>>587666638Sonic Super BowlSonic Ultra Powered
>>587664946Yeah, Sonic 1 8-bit
>>587666449Oooh interesting. Doesn't 愛情 imply the love is mutual and has existed for a long time rather than merely being one-sided romantic yearning?
>>587666842I don't see anyone killing themselves.
Sallicole makes more sense than Sonally. If you put windnic in Sally's world he will never make the first step necessary to get her because Sonic had to actively try in both Satam and Archie to be her boyfriend. Not a problem for Nicole.
>>587666842That means Silver is the tranny
Shadow WON
>>587666842I didn't watch it because the aesthetics seemed stupid to me. What happened in it?
>>587666775>heartlessYour music still sucks ass, Mina. Fuck off.
>>587666979Reddit filename
>>587666948Yes
>>587666460Sexy girl lover chad>>587666586Muh off model virgin
I thought it was a given that the CE's scattered after they were done being used since ya know they're based off the Dragon Balls.I swear some of you guys don't watch any anime at all.
>>587666932Correct. Nicole doesn't feel like her freedom is threatened by a relationship. Helps that she can multitask.
>>587666001Arale has toon force, so she could unironically outspeed Barry Allen Flash. Remember Popeye in Death Battle? She's basically that.
>>587666719Obotchaman's introduction is my favorite arc of the series. That and the unrelated episode right before itBig spoilers: the evil doctor antagonist Dr. Mashirito creates his latest robot to destroy Arale and conquer the world, this time he Metal Soniced Arale, but with some qualities inverted, so he's a kind shy boy instead instead of a rude loud girl. Mashirito convinces him that Arale is evil and wants to conquer the world, so he should destroy her. But then he meets her and she's friendly to him, he falls in love with her and eventually starts living with her>>587666841I actually only saw the original series, I should watch the remake sometime. I do like that song though
I'm so happy Archie was shitcanned before Ian could actually turn Sally into a lesbian.
>>587667004Tumblr nonsense+most obvious theory is correct
>>587666853>Implying Sonic 1 is canonSouth Island doesn't exist in the Modern Dimension, only Green Hill does as shown in SA2 and Sonic X.
>>587667158I like Ashita no Joe / Tomorrow's Joe.
>>587667103Bro, I fucking love women so much.
>>587666662freemaSONIC
>>587667370The question wasn't about canon though
Man. Wait until you guys find out that Megaman is just a ripoff of Astroboy.
They revived Sonic X's dynamic where Sonic saves Amy and just sees her as a friend.
Speaking of Sonic's inspirations did you know that Sonic 1's special stages were inspired by this movie? It's super trippy and coolhttps://youtu.be/O9AZ9CGMi4k?is=mwyZ3dqaIwSOye9H(Go to 5:05)
>>587667316If you had to choose which ending, is it Ian or Penders?
>>587667457Zero is trans Roll
>>587667370Please stop being retarded
Eggman should make a metal chris thorndyke
>>587665563That image might have been amusing a decade ago, but with the oversaturation of crossover slop, not just in Sonic but in media as a whole, I just don't give a fuck anymore.
>>587666545>>587667293I don't know what any of this is, but Tails only has one girlfriend.
>>587667516My ending. The one where she fucks whoever I am self-inserting as at the time.
>>587667597So Eggman
>>587667653Buddy, check the archives, Sonic Boom, episode 46, mkv (French audio)
>Windnic>MuhriadowI don't like either of these titles. I get what you're trying to do in Sonic's case. It isn't even an insult half the time. You're trying to describe how game Sonic is different from the comic books, which is totally fair. I just don't like it. The only reason this distinction exists at all is because the comics were missing key details from the games. It's like saying "Lovemy" "Smartails" "Thiefouge". It's a fundamental part of who Sonic is. I understand that it's insulting to the comics to say "Sonic would never act like that" and I wish there was a better term. I refuse to use those terms. "Windnic" is literally just Sonic.
>>587667653Sorry Cosmo but you have some competition.
Randon /g/ thread i found >>>/g/110310744
>>587667316>muh IanDude, Sally and Nicole started having a thing the instant the latter got a mobian form, in issue 151.
>>587667832Archie shipfags are the only people who refuse to accept Sonic's character not being built for what the comic did
Yaaaaaaaaaaa
>>587667502Whoaaa, cool!Makes me think of demoscene animationsWas it mentioned in another interview?>>587667653Phew, that doesn't exclude him having multiple boyfriends!Just kidding, I don't take shipping seriously
>>587667593>FrontiersLore Team slop. Show me a post-SA1, pre-Unleashed game that specifically has South Island and doesn't just use Green Hill as a stand in.
@587667884>Completely made up bullshit based off nothing but out of context panelsTry harder and do better and I'll give you this (You). I'm legit more annoyed at your lack of effort than the actual topic of the bait.
>>587667837A house plant, an abuser, someone who he never talked with, and a pen pal.
>>587667884I don't see it. Maybe you should take off your yurigoggles?
>>587667995>@Not him but come on, you know better than that.
Why are we acting like Sonally's death is Ian's fault when the ship dies immediately because of windnic entering the comic
>8141I'm done with you
>>587667931You just got hard confirmation from Iizuka himself that nobody at Sega actually cares about canon or the so called 'integrity' of the franchise, and that they only do what they think will drive sales. And you are STILL one about this shit. Why are you physically unable to accept that multimedia franchises have differences between iterations? Just let it go, man.
Notice how Sonic describes Amy's love in the Memories animation as 愛情 (aijo). This kind of love is deeper than 恋愛 (renai) and 恋 (koi). 愛情 is a love that is deep, enduring, and devout. It is not superficial nor fleeting. This indicates that Amy loves Sonic sincerely and that it's not a simple crush.
koi mobian blowjobs
<<587668141Would you rather this?
>>587667993Post-SA1 being a different universe is a post-Generations retcon that has since been retconned, so this is irrelevant. You're also retarded regardless because SA2 explicitly shows a stylized map with Green Hill on an island in a location the game calls "the south".
>>587668160Why are we acting Ian wasn't actively pushing sonally after two precious writers tried to kill it and her off, only to stop after SEGA told him to stop and he started sinking other ships out of spite?
nobody cares
>>587668202Hey archie retard. We're talking about your comic right? The one where Sally openly expressed how much she hated it when Sonic went off script? The one where Sonic had to slow down for her? The one where Sonic was still uneasy when he became a king? The one where there was a reboot that replaced his personality with the version from the games, and as a result killed the character Sally was actually in love with? You thought I didn't know. There can be multiple iterations, Archie was one of them and in its own universe rules your shitty ship dies. All shipfags are retarded. Go kys.
60I care
>>587668196Still not him but that's much better.>>587668314Again not him but that's actually funny.
>>587668238Sonic was describing his friends' love, not just Amy.>but he was looking at herHe was talking to them all. The animation celebrated them as a whole, not a single character.
>>587667989No it's just what Sonic Retro said in an article on Sonic 1's development but I didn't find any actual source from Sonic 1 devsI believe it though because come on it's identical to the Sonic 1 special stagesAlso kino image
I love this fox like you wouldn't believe. I would sacrifice all of you to Moloch if it meant just hugging him once.
>>587668386>pretending to have bad reading comprehension just so you can continue to whine
Archienic sounds a lot more like game Jet
>>587668543Yeah I believe it too^-^ !!!
>>587668587You think he's pretending?
>>587668351>he started sinking other ships out of spite?You're attacking Ian for your own fetishes now. He didn't sink any ships out of spite. Sally was in love with the developed Preboot Archie Sonic, Postboot Sonic wasn't her guy. It wasn't sunk, it never had a chance. Stop blaming Ian because you refused to pay attention.
>>587659598a Sonic RPG series would be E10 Rance
<6684>Enough.
>Maurits Cornelis Escher was a Dutch graphic artist who made woodcuts, lithographs, and mezzotints, many of which were inspired by mathematics.Makes sense why computed animations animations would be reminiscent of his style
>>587659932Sonic style Donkey in a suit making a Sonic Adventure pose with a blue paint brush
>>587668495I know but the fact that he looked specifically at Amy when he said love has a special implications. Anyway, the word Sonic used for love is analogous to philia in Platonic philosophy. It's love for a friend
>>587666312>ignoring Sonic-16
>>587668937My ship sails in the morning. I wonder what's for DIN-NER?
I hate Redeemnic I hate MovienicI hate PrimenicWhy is he such a hugger now
>>587668202Sally shipfags always use this argument even though the issue was Archie itself tore apart the pairing.
>>587659598Sonic Team is not and has not ever been equipped to make an RPG, Sonic’s world has been inconsistent even in the games so why would we ever believe an RPG would work?
>>587669093Because ian said trans right
>>58766900216 bit to everything except the spinball. Also you were off by two.
>RPG where you only have twelve party options Sega will break new ground
>>587668880Ian sunk Tails' ship with that koala girl out of spite and he said so himself. And he blatantly did the same to Sonic and Fiona.
>>587668889Now I want to see the Sonic version of this.
>>587668880>>587669371Not to mention killing off the entire Echidna race. At least Knuckles wasn't fucking his cousin anymore.
>Knuxouge was basically killed today with confirmation that rouge's final cutscene was talking about shadow>momthrowers spamming them standing next to each other means they consider it a win
>>587669371Barby and Tails was disgusting self insert pedoshit like Timmy and Vicky. There was no sinking because he can't just put a little boy in a relationship with a teenager in an official Sonic comic. Fiona wasn't the main love interest of the comic so she never stood a chance. Just like Sally Sonic had to be OOC for her. You're blaming the wrong person again. You should get mad at Sega if you're so mad about your ships.
>Barby and Tails was disgusting self insert pedoshit like Timmy and Vicky. There was no sinking because he can't just put a little boy in a relationship with a teenager in an official Sonic comic. Fiona wasn't the main love interest of the comic so she never stood a chance. Just like Sally Sonic had to be OOC for her. You're blaming the wrong person again. You should get mad at Sega if you're so mad about your ships.
>>587669439Hang on, E10 Race has based path?
>>587669297I don't play many RPGs, what do you mean?
>>587669571Back to /a/ bulmabitch
>the mandates! the mandates!the same old excusesalso hi Tootiefag
>>587669297Lol
>>587669656Barby was supposed to be the same as tails originally before they reconned her to be older.
>>587669710Not your boogeyman
Boy!!!
Unironically, porn made me hate Tails, because he's the generic fox faggot that gets paired with everyone
>>587667502Cool shit
Ngl, Barby x Tails was pretty hot.I think manganic did some similar by offering Tails free hard pop
>>587669889I just love sailor outfits
>>587669874Back to /a/ bulmacuck
>You will never get a Blobian BlowjobWhy live
>>587669940>manganic did some similar by offering Tails free hard popWhich one? The one with the Nicky?
>>587669927You never liked Tails lol>>587670000Nice post number
Flynn kill all the teenage boy naughtyness from Archie because he didn't get to make his ship canon What a cabron
Why do Archie fans hate the letters OOC
Any /sthg/ lobbies in Sonic Pico Park?
>>587670038Might be time to kms
The only thing keeping Sonic from dying like every mascot except Mario is his close proximity to anime. They need to lean into that before a movie flops
>>587670150They can't admit that Sonic from Preboot had a personality that was never in the games
>>587670086Bisatu Korakoro's manga short
>>587670228You're either the second or third person who has ever expressed interest in playing that game in this general
>>587670353THAT FOX BOY IS FOUR YEARS OLD MA'AM
>>587670129<3
>>587669571>rouge's final cutscene was talking about shadowShe repeated the same stuff that was already said in the games
>>587670448>do it to itIIIIIAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNN
Shadouge is still completely ooc like all archieshit
>>587670353Oh right, didn't know hard pop refers to alcohol.>Soda pop, soda, soft drink.>Alcohol, hard drink, hard popHuh.
>>587670535<3
Any /sthg/ group goon sesh lobbies
>>587670286Yes but Sonic Team also needs to learn how to become non-dependent on the movies for success. The movies aren't going to last forever and eventually, the games are going to have to go back to being the key to success
>>587670612Shadouge has quite literally never ever been anywhere close to being canon. It's just South Americans shitting up everything again.
Damn, post out of order
>>587670662Best boys
Everyone who uses DBZ examples for shipping is a huge fucktardo
>>587670623What a huge mass of fluff and muscles.I wonder if the one who designed the werehog was at least passingly aware of Drago?
I think Sonic and Surge are like Gohan and Videl 100%
>>587670787:D>>587670821This, Sonic is more inspired by Dr. Slump than DBZ, I'm smart because I make Dr. Slump parallels
Me x Scribbles
>>587670984Krack...
>>587670732>>587670448>>587670353DELET THIS
>>587670970This but unironically
>>587671125Do you have any of those AInimations saved?
>>587669606Ian literally revived a dead story plot point that hadn't been touched on for over a decade by the time he got onto the comic for the explicit and exact purpose of sinking BarbyxTails. He admitted this himself. Idk why you keep trying to absolve him of blame when he literally credits himself for doing so. Are you autistic?
>>587670228>>587670425I just played it a little in a random online lobby, and it was actually really fun, don't sleep on this /sthg/ I only quit cause my controller died.
Shadouge and Knuxouge both suffer the same problem.they require the loner guy to return Rouge’s feelings and if that ever happens everyone will scream its ooc.
>"....and love"what did he mean by this
Goodnight friends. I'll now sleep with Tails
>>587671213Sorry I only have Penders
>>587669606>pedoshitwhy are you guys so fucking parinoid and fucking crazy about this shit.It's cartoon animals, stop taking this shit so serious jesus christ. It's an old fucking bit,>the little nerd kid gets the smoking hottieNo one's getting raped it's just a trope, holy shit you fucking schizos.
>>587671359shadouge and knuxouge both suffer from the same problem: shadougefags
>>587671473Goodnight to both you and Tails! ^-^
>>587671476Kek, nice
>>587669795Bababababababased
>>587671359Shadow's always acted like he's completely asexual for anyone except a little blonde girl named Maria, and Knuckles may be a dolt but even in Sonic X he reciprocates her flirting to an extentShadow sees Rouge as a friend and a coworker, but as anything more? No way>>587671542trvke
>>587671554\(^-^)/
>>587671529You don't want a story, just porn
>>587671529The point isn't about cartoon kids or some shit, the point is hating on Ian, by any means necessary.
>>587671692<3
>>587671685>but even in Sonic XNOTCANON
>>587669297Chrono Cross and Xenoblade 3 had you beat bro
>>587667653Rip plamt aliens of their kin appearing, I liked them a lot.
Why is Tails so popular with shipfags?
>>587671730I'll fight everyone, I don't anyone's help to fight Ian, if Ian haters are going to start acting obnoxious too, then I'll fight you too.ALL OF YOU CAN ACT LIKE FAGS, I'LL FACE THE WORLD!
>>587671398Sonic is grateful for all the love Amy has shown to him. It sounds like a very subtle love confession
>>587671784Yes it is>source?Me nigga
>>587671685X is ooc is not canon tard
>>587669439What even is the context on this one?
>>587669297Final Fantasy 4TAY has 22 and Final Fantasy 6 has 14
>>587671826Tails should be loved by everyone
>>587671826As a straight man, for some reason, my mind finds it the easiest to see girls I like with Tails. I don't self insert as him.Maybe it's cause I don't want to see dudes, and I find futas gross, and Tails is like, the one thing that doesn't register as a male in my brain that's also not a girl.It's great.
>>587671784Sonic Adventure 2 and Sonic Heroes then>>587671826He's literally just babby's first self-insert fodder for furries
>>587671712Why are techy echidnas like this
>>587671784-Story that was written by....
>>5876718261) he's a fox2) he's a nerd3) he's young 4) he's la ella (in some old dubs and fan works)5) combination of above
I remember being back on DeviantArt nearly 20 years ago and Shadougefags were just as crazy then as they are now
>>587669297>Sega will break new ground
>>587672231>20 years ago Did you pay any attention to other shipfags as well?
this bitch makes me B A T T Y
Sonic 06 and Unleashed were co-written by a Sonic X writer, so why isn't X considered canon?
>>587669763and that's not even the Suikoden with 176+ fucking party members.These people are nutty.
>>587672430By this logic Balan Wonderland should be canon as well
MR.FLYNN GET DOWN!
>>587672382Is that her asshole?Anon nooooo!
>>587672298
Archie was still OOC though. Tails isn't like that. Barby was just a self insert ship that had nothing to do with Tails's actual character. Just like Mina. Just like every Archie ship it was automatically OOC and didn't fit with the established canon version of the character.
>>587672606where the FUCK is your asshole located on your body??
>>587672575Sexy duo
>>587672609B-Bejita...? Where'd you go
>>587672502Neither of these writers have writing credits for Sonic.
>>587672352There was a generation divide between people who liked Sonic/Sally and Sonic/Amy, as the latter were on the younger side, and then there was Tails/Cosmo, or him with Cream, although I had less interactions with them.I do distinctly remember that certain people, if you said something they disagreed with, would write back an entire novel's worth of seethe, and Shadouge just happened to be the most common of that person.
>>587672609Nice Espio.
>>587672657>opens knee capright here sir
>>587672679Are you sure
>>587672575NOOOO NOOOOIf you post this the pedos will win!I hear them in my WALLS!
>>587672710Ok. Makes sense.
>>587672668Things has taken a serious turn.
>>587670917they understood the core tenants of great wolf man design though, make them big and make them fluffythe thought of the designers reading Archie is fun though
Cause every time we touch, I get this feeling
Tailsfags are disgusting. They love all of these stupid Archie waifus and want him to be le horny gigachad
>>587673005Go punch your picture of Tails taped to the wall
>>587672984AND EVERTYIME WE KISS I SWEAR I COULD FLY
Sonic, you could literally beat a full powered Emerl by chaos emeralds in less that 30 seconds without sweatingHow the fuck did you job against MetalFraud?
>>587659324>>587664482>>587666019None of this is really the point. I just can't understand the stone-faced hypocrisy of imagining that X's design as a love interest is sacred and should be protected while all this time having not caring for the integrity of Y's, for nothing other than pure tribalism. If you believe Amy's love for Sonic is foundational to her character and should be preserved then the exact same arguments should have been used back in the day for Sally with her version of Sonic. Except that when that relationship was unceremoniously taken out back by Sega and shot, the same people cheered. There is no difference besides your own aesthetic preference celebrating the bastardization of that character, something that might now, God forbid, ironically happen to Amy. I hope it doesn't because 20 years ago I always cheered for her, but I think some self-reflection would be good. People should've defended Sally's integrity more back then, even if she's just an Archie character. It undoubtedly set a bad precedent, showing Sega that they could just eliminate Sonic's love interests while transforming them into more generic strong female characters, and that the audience would bend over backwards to justify diminishing the character. That is not so dissimilar to what might be happening right now.
>>587673005No anon, YOU are the gigachad. What Tails does is make you feel insecure with how much everyone loves him.
>>587672912Yeah, big wolf guys in general are hot.Like that other wolf from other game, the one with the Irish name.
last metamy of the thread
>>587672914>Only being in any universe flatter than Blaze
>>587673167Tldr but bottom line, rival dead, don't care.
>>587672815Yeah, the only game Naka is credited as a writer for outside of Balan was the Master System version of Space Harrier. Most of his credits are for producer or programer until Balan.The other guy wrote for Blinx the Timesweeper.
>>587673167>. People should've defended Sally's integrity more back then, even if she's just an Archie character. II disagree with you and it isn't because of shipping. If you put an in-character true-to-creator-vision version of Sally, Sonic, and Amy together, Amy still chases Sonic forever, Sally eventually gives up and moves on. Ian was aware of this. Sally was not created as a perpetual mascot character with a tropey love of Sonic. She was created as Sonic's counterpart who he eventually earns the love of through development. Game Sonic wouldn't have that development and he wouldn't pursue her. Sally and Amy are not the same. Removing Sally's love of Sonic is not the same as removing Amy's.
>>587673218There's something fundamentally weird about Amy getting with an evil robot facsimile of the guy she likes, but it's kinda neat.
>>587673130Metal finally got a patch update for the first time since 2004.
>>587673342Naka did make writing decisions even if he wasn't explicitly credited as a writer.
>>587673130sonic battle isn't canon nowidw is
>>587673167I don't think you understood my point. Sally moving on from Sonic (A version who is already blatantly different from the games) is a behavior established by her own creator. Amy moving on from Sonic came in over 20 years after her creation.
I don't understand why this fandom is so tribalistic in the first place.
>sonic battle isn't canon now>idw is
>>587673506>>587673376Let's not pretend that they ever considered having her end up with anyone but Sonic before the reboot. It's disingenuous. Besides, it's just shipping arguments. I don't care for nor want to have shipping arguments. The point is that they shouldn't have erased the fact that she's Sonic's love interest in her setting, no matter what kind of troubled love they have, because that's how her character was designed.
>>587673209Lycaon my beloved
>>587673676It all started when they gave Japan, America and Europe their own braches.40 years later the division is still going on.
>>587666412That must be a joke. Everyone of the Strawhats lovess every other Straw Hat. They constantly have their own 1 on 1s.
>>587673167>>587673376>while transforming them into more generic strong female charactersCounterpoint: Archie Sally is a de-girlbossification of SatAM Sally who actively shot down Sonic if he tried to push their relationship further. Reboot Sally is almost a return to that, except the part where she's also a lesbian. It's true that removing Sally's love broke Archie as a story but at that point you have to ask yourself if it was true to Sally or Sonic's personalties in the first place.
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>>587664346Even Mario copied Slump (the rotund design, running with their arms out and I think the tanuki/raccon suit)
That animation was giving last hurrah vibes.
>>587673785NTA that's funny, two main writers who absolutely hated each other agreedbon on one thing and that was that Sonic and Sally wasn't going to work out.
>>587673921wish I was molested my a blobian when i was a kid
Rockwell is slightly younger than shadow.
>>587664662Anon, it was revealed she really did move on with Shadow before Ian rewrote the story lol
>>587665916That's kind of the idea of one brand.>>587673676Because of picrel
>>587673785>Let's not pretend that they ever considered having her end up with anyone but Sonic before the rebootI mean... It's been outright stated by all three head writers that they did. Ian said regardless of the reboot he was aiming for Sallicole. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Mw77WbLmj8&t=593sBollers said he was ending Sonally for Sonamy.You already know about Penders, I imagine. Yes most of this is fueled by shipping arguments but if your argument is that it broke Sally's character, you would have to break Sally's character to make her stay in love with windnic. There is no in-character scenario here. Sally's character was not designed around JP Sonic and as a result there is less pushback when her romance with him is removed due to JP Sonic being slotted into Archie.
>>587652928Your problem now
>>587673810I was thinking more grey one in a more stellar setting. But both are visually impaired.>"Can't let you do that, star fucks."
>>587673921This is what Ian took from us.
>>587652928Keep them and also don't come back here again fuckbag.
>>587653619Nobody tell Iizuka the amyfags are porn addicts
>>587674062It wasn't public knowledge until like months ago vs decades.
>>587652928We're not responsible for what happens on /v/. Please never post here again. We don't want to see your shitposts.
I generate ooc bullshit fanfics with ai privately then go on here and criticize the fuck out of ooc garbage. keep that shit private stupid faggot. stop leaking ooc garbage into the franchise. ooc bullshit isn't worth more than private aislop garbage that i discard after i get my fix.
>>587673785>Let's not pretend that they ever considered having her end up with anyone but Sonic before the reboot.This is literally just wrong.
>Replying to a 4 hour old post>3 times
>>587674361I replied now because I saw the first reply to it. I didn't look at the time. He still needed to be told to never come back
Why do Sallyfags keep trying to push that they were meant to be when every writer under the sun came out of the woodwork to say that they did in fact plan on eliminating the pairing and had no intention of making it the final endgame for the mainline canon of Archie? Literally all three of your writers said this on record. This isn't just Sonamyfags attacking you over Jpshit, it's Archie itself.
Mania is dogshit
>>587674435When do people like you get a divine ass beating?
>>587674561Why would you say something like this? That guy was annoying and needed to take his own advice.
Once again, Nicole won the Sally bowl.
I like Sage
>>587674284Anon I don't want to alarm you but at least half the fanbase is porn addicts.
>>587674118He isn't going to reply lol. It's a Sallytard in denial. He makes these posts from time to time because he doesn't care about characterization, just his ships.
>>587674556I’m surprised Sonic Mania didn’t decide to make the second act of green hill an indoor cave with water flowing.
>>587674157darn, I don’t have any pictures of O’Donnell handywe need that Star Fox movie, Illumination
>>587674118My argument is that your using these arguments will inevitably end with people trying to justify Amy "moving on" from Sonic, same as Sally "moved on" from Sonic. And that we, as a whole, should've stood up more for Sally back then, as her being Sonic's love interest was always a fundamental part of the character design. Arguments on the nature of "the writers always intended for her to fall out of love with Sonic", "they were always on and off", "Sally's love for Sonic was never a core part of her character" are a stone's throw away from "the writers never intended for Amy to chase Sonic forever, because they always intended her to grow up eventually", "Amy's love for Sonic isn't a core part of her character, just love itself is", and "Sonic is always avoiding her and marriage, this evolution was inevitable". There is little difference between these arguments, and you can easily end up with terrible, bottom of the barrel justifications of slicing away core parts of a character in the setting.
>>587669763Tir, my beloved
>>587674663>only half
>>587674505If Ian was so against the sonally, what was the point of X years later? Outdated Sonadow rivalry?
>>587674928That's why I said at least half.
>>587674647Everyone likes Sage, she's a likable gal.
>>587674647She's nice
>>587674812I only watched the movie for Fox after hearing he's going to be on it.And yes, Fox needs his own movie, but perhaps from some other studio.
>>587675019Real talk, /sthg/ needs to get over itself and admit that Sally is beautiful. Seriously, is it any wonder why she was such an awakening for so many people.
so horny for sheep
Super Boy!
>>587675150>>587675150>>587675150>>587675150
>>587675242NTA she might be pretty, but good looks are poor substitution for a personality.
Thought I was going to have to search the depths of the internet to find some Barby content but there's a surprising amount of it. Hot.
>>587674647>>587675137>>587675156Evil yet huggable little creature. I feel like Sega, filthy bitch ass cowards they are, are afraid to have Sage do anything truly heinous. Yeah, she's cute and popular, but she's till a villain. Commit, dammit.
>>587666545I haven’t watched it but I read the manga. Obotchaman is like a non crazed Kit but is far too sweet to make sense to me. I like mean Kit.>>587673167In the first place, SoA didn’t respect Sonic’s own character by changing his character to suit their own love interest for him. Sally is incompatible with Sega’s vision on the fact that she was made for a different iteration so it’s no surprise that keeping her around forced her to drop those aspects. This isn’t even mentioning how Sally is able to move on to the next guy (or girl in reboot’s case). You can blame Ian and the Archie team for not letting her and the FF’s get vaulted to preserve their image but it’s not like preboot Archie respected SatAM’s characterizations in the first place.
>>587674967He never was, he went through great lengths to salvage it after Boller's slap and Penders being Penders. He had to completely switch gears after Sega officially killed it, though. Being a generic progressive, the most avant garde thing he though he could do with Sally, if she couldn't be Sonic's love interest, was to push her to Nicole, her best friend. Not Ian's finest moment but, hey, Archie was always bad and was already fucked. Mind you Sega wouldn't let him canonize something like that, but it was his intention.
>>587675305Shadow…
>>587674642I dealt with people like you many times in life. That no matter how nice I act or reasonable I tried to be, they just enforce their toxic bullyings and make sure to form it to be a community effort. Because the fucking lemmings can’t help but enable the shittiest parasites possible because they are programmed to be retarded drones since their school days.
>nutted so hard I gave myself a facialsonic characters for this feel?
>>587674819I think I see what you're saying but I have to disagree. 1.Bottom line: Sonally cannot exist in a universe with an in-character Sonic. Sally's character up to that point has repeatedly demonstrated 0 patience for being made to wait on a relationship.2. In-character Sonic was forced into Archie after the Super Genesis Wave. 3.You have to break Sally's established traits leading up to this point to make her stay patient for a Sonic who acts like this for both Satam and Archie4. I am probably misunderstanding your argument here. But Sally is just a case of a mismatch. Corporate mandates replaced her love interest with a separate incarnation of the same character. It's like New52 Wonder Woman with Justice League Super Man. You broke the thing that made them fall in love meaning you'd have to go straight back to the drawing board and recharacterize them both to make them stay in love.5.The writers did in fact demonstrate that they intended other pairings. That was just incorrect. Not to shoot you down.6. Ignoring all of the above. On principle I agree. Archie was its own world with its own rules and killing all of that for the sake of consistency with the games ended up making the story unsatisfying and awkward on reread. Sally's character in previous issues is loses everything compelling.Reading 90s and 2000s issues by Penders and *knowing* that he was intentionally crushing any chemistry the characters have instead of just being a poor romance writer puts a bad taste in my mouth.Reading Archie Sonic restored and *knowing* this is allegedly how Ian was going to "fix" Archie (Have Amy spell out Sonic's character bio as a reason why Sonally doesn't work) doesn't feel like a way to handle ths.7. I have no solution. I think this was inevitably broken.
>>587675443>far too sweet to make sense to me. I like mean Kit.That's fair
>>587675508Pics or it didn't happen.
>>587675474That guy wasn't nice, he doesn't belong here and was invading our space. There is nothing nice about coming here to insult us.
>>587673785Anon, the nature of having several writers on a comic means they sometimes put all sorts of shit in regardless of how other writers or fans might feel, that includes shipping nonsense. Sonally was already being shat on before Ian came on to try and clean up the mess.
>>587674819I'll be the bad guy here. Amy's crush was fucking annoying and I don't miss it. Sally's crush required Sonic to be OOC at a baseline so it's only natural it disappeared when Sonic became IC.
>>587674286True but that reveal was actually more in character for her than “waiting”
>>587673785>Let's not pretend that they ever considered having her end up with anyone but Sonic before the reboot.Either you're a complete newfag or you think Ken Penders, Ian Flynn, and Karl Bollers are lying when they said they had no intention of carrying Sonally to the endgame of the comicArchiefags hate hearing this shit but Penders is too retarded to come up with all that on the fly. Sally wasn't going to stay with Sonic.
>>587673921Giwtwm
>>587675725Be honest here. None of you are nice. A lot of you don’t even know what being nice and kind is anymore. To me, it’s just about stagnation on being bad or getting worse. And most of the time it progresses to being worse and worse till it’s the new normal. Just look outside. Can you tell me things are better or it’s just getting worse is the new norm?
>>587676124I am nice usually, I'm rude in retaliation, not by default.
>>587675914In the Penders Book Sally groans when Sonic asks about Shadow and says "You were gone for TWENTY FIVE years*Reminder that all it took for Sally to dump him the first time was continuing to pursue Eggman.
>>587675559>In-character Sonic was forced into ArchieArchie Sonic has never been in-character to the real Sonic, post reboot included.
>>587675421>Sega, filthy bitch ass cowards they are, are afraid to have Sage do anything truly heinous.Yeah, this is sad. The Robotnik "family" showing care for each other is a fun idiosyncrasy that could be used to bring their villainy into even starker relief.
>>587674117>no Advance/Dimps percentage>vague dark age definition, especially when boost has its own percentage A santiagofag made this chart
>>587674284Because that's not most boomer adult sonic fans
>>587676069>they said they had no intention of carrying Sonally to the endgame of the comicEven if you seriously believed for all archie writers, do you think editors would've ever let them do that?
>>587676213That’s what you think of yourself. Everyone looks at themselves in the most awesome ways possible. But that’s not the reality. You really thought punching someone with resentment and isolation would put out the fire when it’s just going to make them more determined and calculated to hurt you.
>>587676484I'll reflect on this and reconsider, but I still don't like some guy coming here and insulting us.
>>587660173>70sAt most you had the games that were aping off the "psychodelic" aesthetic or "cute with a bit of poison", barely nostalgic in sense of reviving a 80s platformer to modern day.
>>587673167It's not really the same. The reason Amy's love for Sonic is important is because its the foundation of her character, story, themes and arc.Amy's whole deal is that she is a maiden who fell in love with her prince charming and became inspired to chase after him and become an adventuring hero as well. Her other traits like her compasion, open heartedness and being straightforward and honest about she feels and encouraging others to be as well are all built on that foundation. If you remove her love of Sonic, you remove the structure thay gives all of this stuff coherence.Sally isn't the same. The foundation for Sally is being a foil to him and being a princess trying to get back her kingdom from Robotnik. The romance element is just straight up ancillary. Its just that its the main thing Sallyfags care about.This isnt actually about shipping to me. Amy needs to hav that trait because its central to her premise in a way it isnt for Sally.
>>587676461Let me be clear: All three head writers of Archie Sonic said this on record. It isn't just some fan headcanon or Sonamyfags shitting on Archie ships. "If you believe the Archie writers said this" is because they actually said this. I don't know what you would want further from that.For the editorial, that's a double pronged issue. Sonally is doomed in any scenario where Sega of Japan wrests control over the comic. Their take on Sonic does not settle down or make personal compromises, killing the pairing at its roots. Sonic needs to learn patience to even start his arc with Sally. Second, when has Archie editorial forced the Sally pairing in the first place? Let's say Karl Bollers got his way and started shifting Amy into the love interest role, do you actually think Archie editorial was going to stop him? If anything Sega would be the one stopping him. Third, Archie editorial didn't care about the 2003-2010 7 year separation between Sonic and Sally. At no point did they request issues where they get back together. Ian made the decision to put them back together and that was only ten issues before Sega started getting control freak about it.
>>587676601Think about why he’s so angry with you in the first place. There might be a root to find. And if you rip it out, it would go away. Many come to fight because they are ashamed of themselves and want the control and pride of winning regardless it is just an illusion, or a delusion. But no matter what, none of their victories will ever and truly cover up their shame.
Amy and Sally is a false equivalence. You can't put Sonally in a universe with an in-character Sonic. You would have to change Sally's character to an unrecognizable degree to pull that off. She does not want default Sonic, she wants developed Sonic. Sonic doesn't develop.
>>587676461>Even if you seriously believed for all archie writersThe alternative is Ian/Bollers/Penders just all collectively agreed to selectively decide to lie and say Sonally is the one thing they were axing. Sally isn't a bespoke character like Amy. She is the end point for Archie Sonic's development.
>>587664357She tries to be somewhat classy but is naturally more rough
>>587673167What you're suggesting is Ian style writing where characterization is ignored to make a thing happen. "Sally needs to stay in love with Sonic" so you restructure her entire personality to be in love with windshitnic creating Amy again or worse Blaze.
Sonallyfags can't deal with the reality that nobody cares about their ship anymore except for them. Their comic writers either gave up on it or never liked it in the first place.
>>587664776Amy would like more but is not unhappy with the dynamic. The chase is appealing to her.
Penders>Sally was supposed to give up after Sonic was too adventurous and silly while she's too serious and busy. She ends up with Shadow and they have three kids happily ever after while Sonic runs off to chase the Egg CarrierBollers>Sonic and Amy start dating in secret before eventually coming out to SallyIan Flynn>It would be cruel to keep Sally chasing after this guy who just would never reciprocate. The licensor wanted Sonic to act more like the games, so she would have ended up with Nicole after the Mecha Sally ArcI think Ian is the only one here who's lying.
>>587664776Yes to everything.
>>587677782Ian's position was from being told Sonally couldn't happen anymore, so he conceded and made her a lesbian.
>>587676461Archie editorial didn't care about Sonally, even that was a meme. They would have allowed Sally to just fucking die if Sega of America didn't step in and resurrect her. There has never been a time in the history of Archie where Archie editorial asked for more Sonally. This is a myth.
My headcanon with Sonally is simple really.It starts off with Sonic finding Tails when they're young at the start of Robotnik's war. They later save the Freedom Fighters, which are already established with Sally as the leader, a few times before Sally convinces Sonic to at least live and work with them a bit so they can fight Eggman and end the war (which was Sonic's main concern). Bunnie and Antoine also help convince Sonic by pointing out Tails is way too young to be living by himself and he refuses to do anything that Sonic doesn't do (remember he has to be like 4 or 5 by SATAM/Archie's timeline.) So Sonic and Tails join the Freedom Fighters. S3&K happens but the FFs aren't involved because they can't get to the island and/or are distracted by something else. Around this time Sally develops a crush on Sonic and Sonic (not being his fully realized self) being young and horny decides to entertain it for a bit. They end up breaking up mutually after a while because Sally realizes Sonic isn't going to settle down for anytime long and Sonic isn't too interested in Sally's political baggage or getting tied down in general. Eventually sometime around the events of Sonic Heroes to Shadow 05, Sonic officially stops being part of the FFs and Tails follows with him. Sonic visits Sally and the rest of them occasionally just to catch up with them and maybe flirt with Sally "for old time's sake" but it's nothing more than that. Tails ends up being closer to the FFs overtime simply because he can't be as free roaming and free spirited as Sonic and also Tails isn't as against settling down and having a permanent home. In my headcanon Emerald Beach is part of the Acorn Kingdom.I know none of this happens in Archie or SATAM and I also know that no one asked but that's just how I play it all out in my head. There's a short romance or fling between Sonic and Sally but that's it.
I think Penders is the liar. There is no way he came up with that shit in 2005. He's literally the guy behind all the Archie romance drama bullshit.
Sally shidded and farded and Ian had to clean up the peanut budda
>>587667457Or that Mario is a ripoff of Popeye and DobkeyKong of King Kong or that Zelda is based on Ultima, Wizardry, Peter Pan and Sabrina.
>>587678120Literally hinted in the comic and the King Shadow stuff was leftover from Penders' story that the editor gave to Ian to write.
>>587678079>remember he has to be like 4 or 5 by SATAM/Archie's tiTails is ten years old in SatAM and 11 in Archie.
>>587678245I'm talking about the beginning of the war. That happens a few years before the comic and show start iirc.
>>587667942Tails was cool in M&B! Im glad Tailsbros are happy! I liked how their bond was given due respect
>>587678226If you want to get REALLY technical, all anime is basically just a ripoff of Disney and Looney Tunes.
>>587678120I feel like people just refuse to read the Pre-Ian issues of Archie because Ian just straight up changed Sally's characterization to make his version work. Archie Sally was always extremely serious and hated playfulness. She didn't tolerate it at all until Ian came around. There's three different arcs where she is outright against Sonic in the 90s. She has played the antagonist role before multiple times. What Penders wrote is what he always wrote. The Sega mandates just work in his favor.
>>587668329>Post-SA1 being a different universe is a post-Generations retconThis was never a thing to begin with
*flynn penders and bollers tied to a chair*WHICH ONE OF YOU WAS TRYING TO KILL SONALLY
I didn't know Sonally fans were such copers. You're sounding like Sonamyfags now.
>>587678120>>587678443The last things to happen under Penders before he leaves btw>Hope (New Maria stand in) asks Sally's permission to move in with the kingdom and gets adopted by Sally's maid >sally and sonic are broken up and sally is acting extremely vicious whenever the subject comes up >sally writes a public letter about her issues under a psuedonym>sally invites shadow to the castle>Elias helps Shadow rescue Hope by getting her to a doctor >Hope's backstory is retconned so her father isn't her real dad >Future Sonic sees the timeline shifting
at this rate archiefags are going to have to filter archie to keep the memory intact
>>587679203I think it's funny that while most anons in her don't even bother reading the comic, the few that do are the only people willing to talk about the narrative of the whole thing rather than do what /co/ does which is literally just a child smiling and laughing at dangling keys with absolutely no thought or constructive commentary on the comic itself.If you try to bring up any of this shit on /co/ threads you will be dogpiled by a dozen faggots all telling you to fuck off and stop criticizing Flynn.
>>587661026>Knuxouge won today>Knuckles saving Rouge still makes Shadow fags seethe>Knuckles and Rouge were together constantly at the sonic party while Shadow stood off alone somewherebased
>>587679962Hello!
>>587679434I've read the comic twice, actually. Still prefer the games more.
>>587680575I honestly couldn't tell you which one I like the most. In my head the comics and the games are two entirely separate things. Both of them have really good stuff and then they also have really bad stuff.
>>587680710I only enjoyed the comic in a long-journey sort of sense. I did like some of the OCs. But that's it. I frankly like the games more when it comes to the world and characters.
>>587679962>And Shadow has Maria!
MAKE NEW THREAD NOW
>>587679962Shadow and Tails can relate in the "dead girlfriends" club.
>>587681427Pfffft lmfao Anon, there's already a new thread
>>587681686Uuuuuu, they left me behind...
>>587680160When did Knuckles save Rouge? The action was a bit much at times.
>>587681427>>587675337
What if Blaze from canon saw this? Look at the fire
