Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!/sthg/ #9733 - For (You) Edition==NEWS==>Discord server launched 5 October 2026discord.gg/SonicOfficial>SONIC PICO PARK released 12 November 2026https://picoparkgame.com/spp/>Sonic the Hedgehog: Memories and Beyond published 12 November 2026https://youtu.be/_yocC5AIQ5M>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversaryhttps://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 on 19 March 2027https://x.com/SonicMovie>Netflix animated series for preschoolers with attitude in productionhttps://variety.com/2026/film/news/crazy-taxi-movie-netflix-sega-sonic-stranger-than-heaven-1236861148/==COMICS==Sonic the Hedgehog #92 - 9 December 2026Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #5 - 16 December 2026Sonic and the Blade of Courage #19 - December 2026==OTHER==>Linkshttps://rentry.org/sthglinks>SAGEhttps://sagexpo.org/>SHChttps://shc.zone/>#10000 Projecthttps://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ruPrevious Zone: >>587675150
Sonamy.Shadouge.
The animation was trash, just like idw.
>>587699403trvke>>587699427You do not like Sonic.
Wish I may, wish I mightBe someone else tonightSometimes I wish I was never born at allAnd I'll try to save the world'Cause in the end I knowI'm the chosen one
Problema?
The animation was kino
Douge.
>>587699629cnc
>no inclination as to where the Reverie came from or who made it>gives Shadow an introduction cutscene, no ending for him in sight, only reasonable explanation is that he got up before everyone else and left the heroes and Eggman sleepingSo much for lore team... but decanonizing manga is way more important
>>587699549>No PhageWeak
>>587699549The joke behind this picture turned out to be correct and AI writes movies
Shadria 5ever!
>>587699549Sage is supposed to be taller than sonic
cnc
fuck Shadow cocksuckers
>>587699961the last two years have sold me on them, they are so lovely, they deserve to be happy together
>>587699961
MwahLick lick lickSpitMwahMwahmwahmwah
>>587700194They were always lovely. Glad to have you.
>>587700009Play the games.
>>587700194I always liked them a lot, but yeah it's great to have newer content. Welcome!
>>587700326
>Pretending to be THREE MariashittersShe's getting desperate
>>587700326Sage's height is officially 105 cm. Sonic is 100.
>>587700421
Good morning my niggas what did I missed
>>587700326Why would you even reply like this if you weren't sure
>>587700324>>587700379ty
>>587700486I'm a man
>>587700491>>587700660Sage is clearly smaller in Frontiers, even though she's always floating.
>>587700574It would be better to use Never Turn BackAll Hail Shadow was always a bad choice to use as his new theme because it came from a noncanon route just like any of the others and represents THAT route specifically
Sonic characters are too short and I see no benefit to this.
>all that shipping drama last threadHow many fucking times do I have to tell you subhumans that Rouge wants both of them? And she kinda functionally already has both of them. Eventually her two tsun tsun idiots will let their walls down, and then she's getting those dicks. AT THE SAME FUCKIN' TIME.
>>587700784Who cares? Sonic needs to measure up in his world. Canon heights are thrown out for crossovers.
>>587700574Maria will never leave Shadow! Shadow will never leave Maria!Cute!
>>587700784mario looks like a gigant baby if that's his height with those proportions
>>587700791Its kinda funny Sonic has no Sanji, no male that lets romance or lust overtake him. Every male in the series subscribes to something higher than himselfRouge will never get anyone that way
>>587700832ded
>me waiting for actual new games
>>587700750never turn back sucks
>>587700784because if you make them taller with that head to height ratio. Sonic looks like a monster next to a human
>>587700931No
>>587700921>Lazy Town >Cost one million dollars to make one episode >Only thing everyone remembers is three to four songs, tops.
>>587700421I'd like to point out that as an AI with a holographic body, she chooses to be roughly the same height. She could absolutely just change to a tall queen if she wanted. >>587700784Reminder that MM12 has exposed Mega Manlet. >smallest Robot Master>Twinkle is still a full head taller than Rock
>>587700921>waiting for new barely functioning piles of trash>now with data stealing vibe codeYeah, okay. Have fun with the literal yakuza knowing where you live, moron.
>>587701063Megaman is cuteWhoever that girl is isn't cute
If I'm following the opposing argument correctly, I have been mislead all my life. Despite playing Shadow the Hedgehog I misinterpreted the ending. Concluding that Shadow will maintain his promise to Maria, having left behind his desperate search for the past. I should have understood that throwing that photo away meant he was dropping Maria and Gerald from his life. I developed an inaccurate headcanon, potentially inspired by Super Shadow saying Maria's name when he dies. Maybe it was because I was a child and I was too distracted by my own interpretation to pick up the obvious. Then, years later a movie would come out based on SA2, in order to maintain synergy with the movie, Shadow was regressed to a pre-Shadow the Hedgehog state. Coincidentally, this new status quo wound up resembling my inaccurate headcanon. Confirmation bias would then lead me to believe this is just how it has always been.I was being pandered to without recognizing it. Shadow was being backtracked. This new retrograde Shadow replaced the old one and I'm contributing to his regression and the potential regression of other characters who come into focus during movie synergy.This is my attempt to repeat the outside perspective.
>>587701191Faggot
>>587701165You forgot your tinfoil hat
You can't spell tinfoil without info
>>587700818>Sonic needs to measure up in his worldThat's the thing, he doesn't
Remember that post from 2020 on the official Sonic Twitter where Shadow has a picture of him and Maria on the wall?
>>587701336Thanks for the insight Sticks
Sticks is not in this thread cuz she wouldn't even have internet at all
>>587701213Anon it's not supposed to make sense. Every person repeating that it's a regression is, without fail, someone who ships Shadow with a non-Maria character. You were and are completely right.
>>587701213Why you're dredging this up now, I have no idea, but fine, load in the save file>Despite playing Shadow the Hedgehog I misinterpreted the ending.Ignoring that era a few years ago where you admitted that Shadow moved on, sure. But I'm not gonna be as uncharitable as you seem to be in this post with the vindictiveness of your wording>I should have understood that throwing that photo away meant he was dropping Maria and Gerald from his life.Dropping them in regards to letting their influences dictate his future decision-making. Nobody is arguing Shadow needs to pretend Maria doesn't exist and he didn't cherish their time together.>potentially inspired by Super Shadow saying Maria's name when he dies.Again I don't know why we keep bringing this up when our focus is about what happens after that>Maybe it was because I was a child and I was too distracted by my own interpretation to pick up the obvious.Nobody is inherently trying to make this a psychoanalytical argument about how you personally arrived to where you're at. That part only comes after shitflinging ensues>years later a movie would come out based on SA2, in order to maintain synergy with the movie, Shadow was regressed to a pre-Shadow the Hedgehog state. Yes>Shadow was being backtracked. This new retrograde Shadow replaced the old one and I'm contributing to his regression and the potential regression of other characters who come into focus during movie synergy.Yes
>>587701213Never mind what your eyeballs told you, anon. Iizuka said that Shadow still hasn't moved on despite all those times he's moved on. >>587701254You actually TRUST the Sega Corporation? PFFFFTHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Oh, anon, you are FUCKED. Like, in general.
>>587701403Whats the point in bringing up the US social?
>>587701403cute>knuckles in the gamer chairkek
>>587701213TLDR
>>587701371Why does Sonic need to be 5ft tall??
>>587701534except for all the times shadow and maria are mentioned before 2024....man shippers are something else
>>587701534Someone said there's only one Maria fan here pretending to be three people. I'll admit that worked me.
>>587701665All the times in... the staff commenting on fanart... yeah man. Definitely measures up to actual Sega game writing
>>587701403Knuckles doesn't celebrate Christmas because he is Jewish
>>587700931Shadriafag...
I've always found the comparisons of Shadow to Vegeta to be both disingenuous and inaccurate. See, unlike Shadow, Vegeta actually has a life.
>>587701730tons of promotional content...social media, lego dimensions, tsr, sonicpict...
>>587701772I just know you are a spic
I think we have to start blaming Iizuka, not Ian
>>587701815Again with the conflation. Nobody is arguing Shadow should pretend Maria doesnt exist. You keep weaponizing Sonicpict or TSR like this is the same as the in-game motivation we are talking about when they arent.
>>587701772Vegeta's son's final status is sexually harassing a 65 year old teenage terrorist Bulma adopted and hired as her ward
I had a dream that I jacked off in Fionafag's bus.
>>587701669It's that crazy Shadougefan, just ignore him. We all know Maria never stopped being important to Shadow. She is his power.
People saying they wanted en and jp to be closer might've actually made them just chnage the jp direction and writing now.You will like westshitYou will eat westshit in your breakfastYou will ahegao over westshit in your buttAnd you will like it.
Happy Friday 13th
>>587701912I've been fearing that for a while. They KNOW we meant and explicitly asked for En to be closer to Jp, so it's extremely dishonest.
>>587701876GIWTWM
>>587701063Megaman was specifically built to be a child, like Astroboy. Actually, most Robot Masters are pretty consistently around Megaman's size, outside of the more wacky ones like Chargeman or whatever. I get the feel the more human-like robots in Megaman are just short while the more utilitarian one (i.e. Concrete man or Galaxy man) are bigger because they have more complex and specific jobs.
>>587701982When Mariafags bring this up is this actually how they want games to start being written from now on?
>>587701982What's up with the thumbs down button
>>587701876And that's still far more than Shadow can ever say about his paltry existence. The "Ultimate Lifeform" spends all day standing with his arms crossed staring into the distance. Vegeta is making love to his gorgeous super scientist wife and hitting the gym.
Trunks and Mai isn't that bad. It's kind of cute. It's technically the most romantic development any DB ship ever got.
>>587702084Shadow is closer to Piccolo
>>587701982Shadow lost in thoughts of Maria...
>>587701968I think we have to be clear and obnoxious about not wanting anyhting western period. i was tolerating that they'd fix it after a while but this short made me fully realize what is going on.
>>587700864What about Vector?
I dont understand how commenting on fanart is a validating argument... this is so bad faith its not even funny
>>587702118Piccolo has a house, trains with his granddaughter, and is dating Ms. Janet. Also no, Knuckles is absolutely the Piccolo equivalent. ... And he doesn't have anything going on in his life either. Why are both of Sonic's main rivals sad losers?
>>587702048Shadow always loved Maria!
*headpats your OC*
Im masturbating to roblox porn
>>587702214>implying anti-mariafags were ever commenting in good faith
>>587702338>Knuckles>Rival
>>587702397>everyone who argued with me was bad faith!Maybe that mentality is why we dont get anywhere
>>587702397Takane my beloved
I didn't know anything about Archie Shadow until I was an adult. I had no perception that Shadow the Hedgehog changed Shadow's character. I didn't know who the writers were. I played the game repeatedly as a kid and never questioned that Shadow was still interested in granting Maria's wish. I didn't hear that he dropped Maria's wish until coming here, shortly before the movie allegedly reversed his progress. I understand if this sounds like disingenuous framing. I really find it hard to believe we were supposed to think he just moved on from Maria.
>>587702208Nah.
>>587702343I finally have an oc but its not sonic related
>>587702339Why do you then bring up bios that literally just recount his backstory and act like this is evidence of what we're actually arguing about...
>>587702423Archie Shadow is the best version of Shadow.
>>587702486Such an obvious falseflag
>>587702423He didn't drop Maria's wish, he just stopped spewing "MUH-RIA" every five fucking minutes. Him being an agent of the reformed G.U.N was an indicator of him moving on but still being dedicated to protecting the world.
>>587702423Wow now imagine someone also playing the games as a kid for the next two decades and the only Maria mentions are a non-Sega dubiously canon Lego game and a car part that doesn't have bearing on the story... hmm I wonder why anyone would think he moved on when she never came up in a capacity as meaningful as SA2 and 05 ever again...
>>587702486Okay, I believe you.
>>587702423We weren't supposed to think that lol. It's just the latest sthg meme. You're not alone tho, i never got the impression that he stopped loving Maria. We had lots of convos about it in oldfag sthg.
I'm glad the latinas meme exists and the devs made it canon. Fuck Maria
>>587702486Average antimariafag
>>587702620"oldfag sthg" is retarded, full of archiefags and poorly designed ocs... this isnt a badge of pride, its just a different taste of the same sonic boomers infesting things like retro
>SHITdowWho cares?
>>587700864A male simp would be kind of funny, even if its the standard in non sonic stuff.
>>587702602Why cant Shadow protect the world because he wants to as opposed to doing it for Maria
>>587702670Everyone cares about CHADow.
>>587702473there isn't any evidence you would accept anyway. we know shadow loves maria tho, so we are content and happy with shadow as he is. i like shadow!
>>587702632Same. It's funny, and adds character.
>>587702706He wants to protect the world because he loves Maria. Cute!
>>587702706Why can't it be both? Maria asked him to protect the world, and then he actually saw the world and came to agree with the sentiment.
>>587702706Maria is his morale compass
>>587702729You're acting the same way. You dont actually reassess your arguments or see the facts of things that have happened. You merely twist anything that vaguely looks like itll support your notions. The worse part is I dont even think you care about Sonic. This entire series could lose itself between vulnerable sonic and girlboss amy and you wouldnt care so long as you got the version of Shadow you believe you're entitled to
>>587702602Shadow's alliance with GUN was temporary bro. Archie is fanfiction
>>587702843>>587702828>>587702775Then he never moved on. This is whole point, you cant have your cake and eat it tooJust admit they regressed the idea of Shadow moving on.
HFOMA (with me being the little male anthro)
>>587702828Shadow agrees with Maria. It really is that simple.
>>587702872Archie is canon
>>587702924Best post in the history of this general
>>587702952This.
>>587702613Not being sarcastic. I can absolutely see how someone would play the game and reach that conclusion. I can entertain the idea that the order I played the games in prevented me from ever interpreting it differently. I think it's reasonable for someone who played SA2, Heroes, 06 and onward in that order to determine that Shadow moved on from Maria and Maria's wish. I don't wake up thinking that I'm just smarter than everyone who didn't reach the same conclusion I did. I didn't play the games in order. I didn't reach that conclusion. I didn't even think much of it. I thought the simplest answer was that he was devoted to Maria. And now I'm aware that Sega of Japan continued to perpetuate that in ways I never even had access to. The window of time I had to the very concept that Shadow moved on from Maria was also small. Again, did not hear about it outside of or before sthg.
>>587702863What are you talking about, the same people who push "Shadow doesn't care about Maria" are pushing Girlbossmy
>>587702423Did anyone who played the games think Archie Shadow was ever an accurate portrayal of the character?
I always loved them
(You) can't stop me.
>>587702924I wish you felt that felt that way about me. U_U
>>587702924Based
>>587702706He can but he doesn't. It's not a matter of whether he can't or not. We know he hasn't moved on because of his motivation for doing so.
>>587702872>still pretending to care about canon when Iizuka himself admitted that canon means nothing in SonicBruh.
>>587702976I dont know what people youre talking. Again with the bad faith generalization. I havent been arguing "Shadow doesnt care about Maria", and someone arguing that current Shadow is facing regression does not indicate they would want Amy's personality trampled with either. Youre just trying to lump all your boogeymen together
WHEN YOU CAN'T HELP BUT FOLLOW
>>587702993Yes. I think enough people parrot the idea that "Archie Shadow is the next stage of Shadow's development" that I would be lying if I argued that all of those people just didn't play the games. As someone who grew up primarily with the games and X I can't even fathom Archie Shadow as accurate. To me he reads like some kind of attempt at correction. He's Shadow but he works for GUN, is nicer to the people around him, is more extroverted, is more personable, is open to communication, and has friends. I can see why someone would say that's an ideal step for his character, that's the development of a lot of reformed villain characters. To me Archie Shadow is way over the top.
>>587703075Well admitting he hasnt moved on is a decent step i guess. Admitting its regression is a step further
>>587702973>And now I'm aware that Sega of Japan continued to perpetuate that in ways I never even had access to.By... commenting on fanart... and writing bios where they boldly mention that Maria is part of his backstory... yeah, definitely perpetuation for sure
>>587703028They're perfect.
>>587703170Isn claimed he was the result of 06 Shadow, but the Shadow in 06 acted nothing like Archie Shadow.
>>587703179But it isn't regression. It isn't stated anywhere by anyone that Shadow stopped honoring Maria's wish - that he gives everyone a chance to be happy. If he did, then Maria's last words about him were wrong. And that's really doing a disservice to Maria and to SA2.
>>587703105>MadonnaWhy does Sega hate her?
>>587703261>Isn*Ian
>>587703247shipper...
Sonadowfujos are defending sonic's ''vulnerable'' portrayal by using psyop tactics like saying people have an issue with it because people dont like that he had that face to a male character. some people will fal for the cheap tactics.
>>587703247
>>587703361Meant for >>587703082
>>587703046wdym? i can love you if you want T_T
>>587703361who
>>587703361Madonna never materialized as a character, yet Archie was STILL able to make her drastically OOC. Amazing.
>>587703443Yes yes post a time where Shadow's remembered Maria without trying to because he was sleeping. This is definitely evidence that he lives for her wish and didnt want to live for himself
>>587703567Madonna was just going to be amy characterwise
maria is also mentioned in basically every twitter takeover...ik it isn't canon but it happens basically every time since 2017 so it tells you how soa thinks. and we already know how soj thinks. neither soa or soj ever said shadow stopped fulfilling maria's wish
>>587703567Lemme guess, Mr. Other M Flynn had that idea?
>>587703359Shadow can fulfill Maria's wish to give everyone a chance without consciously choosing to do so only because she wanted him toIf he is only doing it as devotion to her he regressed from moving on
>>587703261I'm familiar. I have the timestamp where Flynn said this saved https://youtu.be/p4VSvLgfnZo?&t=2454I take him at his word here. His intention was to portray Shadow as he was in 06. I don't think Archie Shadow acts like 06 Shadow.
>>587703585He wasn't sleeping... the text on the site tells you it is a memory.
>>587703619Whats up with the weasel words... nobody is trying to point to a time shadow "stopped" because thats not whats being arguedIf you like Mariadow just stop trying to argue hes living for himself because he isnt. Its very disingenuous
>>587703649Which begs the question of how did Ian see his Archie Shadow in 06 Shadow?
>>587678687Its Sonic reminiscing about his past while superimposing himself into those moments. When he is looking back at Shadow, thats not supposed to be super speed, but him moving at normal speed in a slowed down memory.
>>587703619>it happens basically every time since 2017Not anymore
>>587703567>OOCYou just admitted that she didn't... You know what? At this point, it's my fault for encouraging your mental illness. Seek help.
All this yapping about mariadow doesn't matter because west took over anyway
>>587703674He was sleeping and dreamt of the memory... thats why he opens his eyes groggily... if you really think Shadow randomly thinks about Maria with nothing to actively put it in front of him then yes, you are saying he didnt move on
"Mariadow""Windnic""Thiefouge""Smartails""Lovemy""Mountainuckles""Militarymander""Madscienncggman""MinionOrbot"
>>587703567kek
>>587703745Autist-kun, that post is saying Archie completely changed Madonna to something unrecognizable even though she wasn't a full character. That's how bad Archie was with characterization.
>>587703756Sonic wouldn't exist without "the West". Sega wanted a mascot, but nobody in Japan liked it. So SoJ told SoA to make this shitty blue rat more appealing to Americans. Then they got all pissy when they did exactly that and seethed about it for decades. Nobody in Japan gives a FUCK about Sonic. It's always been a functionally western franchise. Cope. Seethe. Mald. Shut the fuck up already, damn.
>>587703768He wasn't sleeping...why tf would he sleep on the motorcycle lol
>>>587678687This account is a famous sonadow one, she's just trying to be intentionally manipulative to shutdown discussion because unfortunately people fall for it when someone calls you homophobic, misogynistic etc. in bad faith.
I am so glad for licking Jewel' pussy!
>>587703823This lol. Imagine complaining about the core concept of the character
>>587703927NOBODY FUCKING CARES, YOU INSANE RETARD. Pretend she has a lucrative side career as a lounge singer if it really bothers you that fucking much, you pathetic sack of shit. I can't wait for this worthless franchise to die already so you subhuman freaks commit mass suicide and make the world a better place by your blessed absence. God fucking dammit.
Smartails!Cuteils!Kindails!Trustails!Mechails!Flyingails!Foxboyails!Twotailedails!
>>587704028Archiebro...
>>587703937The fanbase liked the japanese version still, it doesn't excuse them from raping creative vision.besdies, sonic not being popular in japan has more to do with marketing and timing than anything else.
>>587703567Archie Madonna was one of those things where you see it and then you're like "Oh so these Archie comics just do whatever they want" Like Deadpool in the 2011 movie
Fortnite Tails
It's Fiona Friday
Shadow...come back!
>>587704064>creative visionIizuka just admitted in an interview that there is no creative vision. This is a corporate product and they will change shit on a dime to get people to please buy these shitty games. Because god fucking forbid they actually make them good for once. You are a soulless drone, and you worship an idea that never existed. Actually kill yourself.
>>587704028its not that serious
>>587704223so anyways shadow loves maria and sonic is the wind
>>587704264Movie synergy is gonna rape the wind like it raped shadow's development
>>587704223It had one in the past. besides i am the one actually criticiizing this shit while you are the one complaining about peopel criticizing it.
The antimaria archiebro is having a melty...
>>587704028Archie was so OOC it made a concept art character act OOC
>>587704223>that never existed.It existed when Yuji Naka was still around. But even after, Sonic Team still had an idea of what Sonic was. It wasn't until 2022 that any shred of an identity Sonic had left was stripped away to the point the Sonic Channel bios were tampered with.
Shadow's devlopment:>SA2>Heroes>Shad05>06>ArchieNothing else matters.
>>587704264Kino
>>587704315your headcanon isn't a thing. You lost
Marine MondayTangle TuesdayWhisper WednesdayTikal ThursdayFiona FridaySally SaturdaySticks Sunday
>>587704140there are children present...
>>587704264Based.
>>587704375Ian...
Don't deadOpen inside
>>587704375Based
The guy spamming the "movie synergy" thing really was an Archiefag, holy shit. Archiefags just despise Shadow.
>>587704385I lost to movie synergy yeah. We all did
>>587704565archiedow is putrid garbage
>>587704565>everyone is one personI invented the movie synergy argument. I am not an archiefag. Sthg has always been shitty detectives. People here really cant grapple with the anonymity anymore
>>587704140Fionally.
>>587704632Wrong.
>>587704632>BlazeAnother jobber
Turns out only liking the sonic franchise for the sonic girls was the healthiest optionStrange, isn't it?
>>587704712You didnt need to say anything
Archie synergy
>>587704712Normgroid subhuman
>>587704632It's been talked to death, but it is really shocking that Penders had to drop his book within a week of this place having a huge fight about Hope
>>587704712You needed to say this.
>>587700784Ways to fix the Mario/Sonic height discrepancy>3’3 is Classic Sonic’s height>5’1 is Mario’s super form, before they retconned it to be his regular heightThe choice is your’s and your’s alone.
Synergy is the new whistle blower wird?
>>587704705Not a jobber.>>587704784Shadhope still happens.
>>587704610I am happy with it as a longtime Sonic fan. I grew up with the Classics then became a fan of Shadow from the 00s games. Pic made me smile a lot.
>>587700784They're little animal people.
Sonic Synergy
>>587704827Surge I guess
>>587704829The way you interpret Shad05 is like if someone walked away from SA1 Amy saying "when Sonic falls for her itll be too late" and decided that meant Amy didnt love Sonic anymore and so it wasnt character assassination when that love was removed 28 years later because it was always gone
>>587701879......why?
Where the fuck did that G come fromI meant to say Sure, not Surge. Now I look foolish.
>>587704910I don't know what you're saying but Shadow and Maria give me feelgood brain chemicals.
>>587704910Some people do that...>>587704882>>587704992kek
>>587704934To piss off the Muslim passengers.
>>587705019Sorry i forgot you dont actually care about the rest of the series whoops
>>587704910Shadow likes Maria 5ever
shadow maria arguments are a psyop to get threads moving faster they generate 200-300 posts without fail every time
>>587705109It's crazy that his first instinct on spotting Olive Garden was to try and end him
>>587701879>>587705046Get off my bus. we only allow semi-naked passengers
>>587705107I love the Sonic series. So I love Shadow and Maria too.
Honey
>>587705206Oh yeah, forgot about the 1up interview. They went straight to Sonic Team to interview Shadow for Shadow's game. Shadow says he'd still sacrifice his life for Maria's. If he was supposed to move on from her forever in that game why would Sonic Team have him say that? Makes no sense.
>>587705204I wish I had no clothes!
Behead all secondaries
>>587705483It's just comicfags again.
>>587705483>Shadow wishes he could die instead of MariaSo how in the fuck did Shadow move on again? I'll never heard Never Turn Back the same again
>>587704317>It had one in the past.Did it though? Did it really? Becaus eSonic the Hedgehog has always been a cynical cash grab right form its inception. >besides i am the one actually criticiizing this shit You're not criticizing anything. You're complaining that the world isn't catering to your OCD. Your supposed critiques have less than no value. Shut up.
I like talking about Maria
>Shadow remains strong enough to keep the promise he made to her.This screenshot was taken in 2007 on the official Sonic website, Sonic Central.
>>587706013He moved on from Black Doom, who thought he was promised Shadow's servitude by Gerald in the past.
Btw if someone faps inside a bus the driver can't do shit, just like in case someone smokes (unless some ugly shit happens, like a brawl aboard i need to stop call the cops).
>>587704934Why? Oh no reason, maybe because I STUPIDLY SIGNED UP FOR HELLMONNNTH AND LONG FOR THE SWEET RELEASE OF EJACULATION! EVEN. IN. MY. DREEEEEEEAAAAAAAMS!!
>>587706050If it's a cynical cash grab then why are you complaining about people not liking the marketing?
>>587706316The US is the only place where Sonic has any relevance. >>587706463Because you don't want the IP to cater to what would sell, you just want to look for excuses to yell at strangers. And you know what would sell? A good video game. Sonic Team has yet to make even a single one of those, so your obsession with "canon" and "OOC" is especially asinine.
>>587706207Shadow always loved Maria, yes.Here's another one, from the official site Sonic City. https://web.archive.org/web/20080229035720/http://www.sonic-city.com/en/characters/shadow/index.htmlIt was made AFTER Shadow's game, in 2007.>Shadow's varying actions are a result of his continuing grief for the loss of his friend Maria, Gerald Robotnik's kind and gentle granddaughter. >When she died, she made him promise to save the world... although from who or what was not clear for some time.
>>587706298This is really retarded because Black Doom is only introduced in that very game. So the whole moving on never turn back again thing was literally only about something he just learned about instead of just being about his whole past, it makes 0 sense.
>>587706807See >>587706806and >>587706207You are wrong. Maria was always Shadow's driving force. Not one but two official Sega sites post-2006 say it.Just accept it and stop harassing people for liking Shadow the way he was always portrayed.
>>587706689If you don't think any sonic team made is ever good, why don't you go to a general threads og fames you actually like? you complain about people yelling at strangers yet you yourself yell at strangers for a series you don't even meaningfully like.
>>587706806OHNONONO ANTIMARIABROS
>>587706470yea butbut why her bus......
>>587706345Are you serious? lmao no way anyone would allow that shit on my city’s buses. Besides you can easily catch an indecency charge if you jack off in a bus.btw have you passed your tests yet?
>another 500 posts saying the same shit about shadow and his dead sisterwife again
>>587707013You lost.
archie and idw are night and day
>>587705206>>587706207>>587706806Jesus, the moveondow yard got obliterated. Good job anon, i knew about the 1up thing but not the central and city one.
>>587707172cnc
>>587706954You yelled at me first, cunt. I'm yelling back. Fuck you and die in a fire. It's OOC for you to not drink bleach.
>>587707172Shadow loves maria in that archie arc too! :)
>>587707280Mobians have paws, footfags btfo
>>587706207>Shadow was still seen as a foe in 2007 even after Heroes, Battle, Shad05 and 06 Is Shadow fundamentally an evil character like Eggman and it's fulfilling Maria's promise which keeps him working with the heroes at all?
>>587707279You were the first one who replied to me first(my original comment was at void), you were also the one who posted in a thread of a series you don't like.
>>587706470Ja, ja, ja, griñññgito. ¡Todo va según lo keikaku!
>another 750 posts about sonic and shadow ships>another 750 posts about schizos arguing to vault silver and blaze>another 750 posts about who is ruining amy>another 750 posts about which year sonic stopped being sonic>another 750 posts about the lack of new games>another 750 posts about the movies doing what the games never could
>>587707362yes, did you play sa2
>>587707172Yes, they are different takes on the character. It ain't that complicated. >>587707307Nobody said that he didn't. You're either legit retarded or have bad reading comprehension. Moving on does not mean refusing to ever acknowledge the thing you moved on from. Like, people are always on about Sonic fans being autistic, but I begging you people to beat the allegations for once.
>>587706927I never contradicted anything you said. You telling me all this reads as insecure.
>>587707442Shadow's actions are determined by his love for his friend Maria, according to Sonic Team (circa 2007).>https://web.archive.org/web/20080229035720/http://www.sonic-city.com/en/characters/shadow/index.html
sell everything and panic right nowit's over
>>587707386>NUH UH YOU STARTED IT WAH... I could be doing anything else with my time right now rather than arguing with a retarded child. >a series you don't likeFuck off. For as much as this franchise pisses me off, I still care about. Fuck knows I wish I didn't.
>>587707583This isn't worth my time either so i'm going to stop replying
>>587707552what are my intrusive thoughts doing on here
>>587707416>another 750 posts about sonic and shadow shipsSonamy and Shadaria>another 750 posts about schizos arguing to vault silver and blazeSilver and Blaze will always exist and have merits both as individuals and as a pair>another 750 posts about who is ruining amySega of America higher ups >another 750 posts about which year sonic stopped being sonic2001, the year the Dreamcast died>another 750 posts about the lack of new gamesSonic Pico Park released yesterday, November 12th>another 750 posts about the movies doing what the games never couldThe movies generally retread and reimagine existing game plots
>>587707723>Silver and Blaze will always exist and have merits both as individuals and as a pairlol
>>587707810Speak English faggot
>>587706298Maria's servant. This is what happens when we reject 05's thematics
>>587707416Sometimes i think the movies should have never existed so whatever buggy mess that Frontiers was originally going to be would have been the last Sonic game once it flopped and SEGA just plugged the plug. No franchise should have ever survived something like Sonic 06, much less the disasters that followed such as the storybooks, Lost World, Boom and Forces and quite frankly, it's unfair that Sonic has been given so many chances when other franchises have been killed for less.
There was little to none "Beyond" in this "Memories and Beyond" shortMainly there were "Memories"
>>587707891You didn't understand 05's thematics
Knuxouge is good because Sonadow is better because nobody likes Amy.But Silvaze is the real deal
>>587707868LMAO
>>587700791The more I look at Rouge’s ships the more shitty they get.Shadow is a lack of the love life she wants.Knuckles is a lack of love and freedom. He’s never shown to be attracted to her.But both sides of the ships cling on to her while refusing to admit the guys aren’t going to give her what she wants.She needs to go full femme fatale and fuck any guy who’ll have her.
>>587699760Yeah but no one played it so nyeh!>everyone played it because of Project Dreamoh no.
I like Maria. They should make a video game called Maria Adventure
>>587707997Rouge stays with Shadow out of putty, but stays with Knuckles because she likes teasing him.
>>587708147Haha you said putty
>>587708027Maria Adventure 2 Battle
Sonic fucks Zelda
>>587707909>we were almost freeI was so mad when that info came out. Genuinely, why does Sonic get to live while Skies of Arcadia remains in the gutter? Bullshit.
>>587708276Persona pretty much became the default SEGA RPG title so SoA doesn't really have a niche to fill anymore.
>>587707997Meanwhile, Topaz is right there.
Shadow's entire story is a ripoff of Please Save My Earth
>>587708491better than other rouge ships
>>587707909I hope Frontiers 2 would be able to do it, that game is already in development hell
>>587708609Shadow took a bath with Maria
>>587708614It isn't physically possible to be better than Douge.
>>587708618>I can fix him>He is just misunderstood >He is a good boy deep inside*Gets raped*
>>587708631Ruined.
>>587708702Shadria exists tho. Maria has bigger boobies than rouge now
I don't get why we're allowed to talk about defunct comics all day but Maria is an issue
>>587708808Yes, and it's as milquetoast a ship as it can possibly get.>bigger boobsShe's also maybe 3 times bigger, since she's a whole different species.
>>587708946We can talk about both!
>>587708730>I can fix himI understand that feel
>>587708946Maria's not an issue. Basement dwellers asking people to read web archive interviews from 2007 they dug up is another story.
>>587708614Because what they had was real, dammit!
>>587708730it's not rape if she consented
>>587706972Maybe he misspelled "butt" as "bus?"
You now remember Agent Willoughby and how she not so subtly wanted to molest Knuckles.
>>587709465He had to. Its against UK law.
>>587709671
>>587709072You were wrong. Cry about it
>>587709072Stop coopting my argument>>587708946I dont know why not admitting regression happened is an issue.>"he does live for himself!"Not if he lives for Maria... thats regression>"he wasnt regressed he was always like this!"??? Its a catch 22
>>587709072>uses 2005 to screech that shadow doesn't care about maria anymore>get shown bios from 2007 proving you wrong>w-well it's old anyway so it doesn't matter
>>587708276Vyse is literally the wind. He also has superhuman semen production to where he can fill both of his wife’s up multiple times a night. Does Sonic do that? Can Sonic do that? No.
>>587708631What game is this?
>>587709945Official Sega sites from 2007 disagree with you. :P>>587706207>>587706806It was never a regression. Move on from Shadow sweetie.
>>587709973>carecarecareWhy do you keep using the word care when you know this isnt what its about?
>>587709671>>587709813>Uh, yeah. Sonic is cool. I guess.
>>587710048So did he develop and live for himself or did he never stop living for Maria's wish?
>>587710057Shadow's varying actions are a result of his continuing grief for the loss of his friend Maria.Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20080229035720/http://www.sonic-city.com/en/characters/shadow/index.html
NiGHTS is in more games than Maria and Marine
>>587709979Damn right.
>>587709824Hit a nerve?
>>587710292They are literally talking about the context of SA2-05 you fraud
>>587709945stfu, I speak when I have something to say
>>587710109Both. He decided he would live for himself by following Maria's wish.>B-BUTKek cope
>>587709973>it's old anyway so it doesn't matterWhy do all your ""arguments"" rely on scarecrows? You're not very good at this.
>>587710404>Source: made it up
>>587710404it says "continuing"Continuing is an adjective or the present participle of the verb continue, meaning happening, existing, or going on without stopping.Key Definitions• Ongoing / Uninterrupted: Something that persists over time without coming to an end (e.g., a continuing investigation or continuing support).• Enduring: Needing no renewal or lasting as a permanent feature (e.g., a continuing contract or continuing education).
>>587710476>He decided he would live for himself by living for someone elseThe fact is you know exactly how stupid you sound but keep going not to convince randoms online but to try to convince yourself.
>>587710560>canon seethers reject even the games nowWow.
>>587710665I'm not convincing you for my sake, I'm convincing you for yours. I already got my way.
>>587710826>I'm not convincing you for my sakeYou clearly are.>I'm convincing you for yoursWTF that took a turn
>>587710826beautiful n beloved (bnb)
>>587710560Read the bio you post. That says BACKGROUND and is talking about the context of how Shadow acts in those games. Shadow doesnt have "varying actions" after solving 05.
Remember when life used to be like a dream?
>>587710476You cant have your cake and eat it too
>>587711131>Shadow remains strong enough to keep the promise he made to her - 2007 on the official Sonic website, Sonic Central
>>587711206But I did
>>587711303Referring to the events of 2005, yesBut based on how you weaponize even flashback art from SonicPict i dont think you know how to interpret these things
>>587711379Just post your douge fanart and accept your place broski
>>587711370No you just sound like a retard>uhh he moved on but he didnt! he lives for himself but he doesnt!
Just had the realization that social media posts about westshit/vulnerablenic takeover don't matter anyway because even if social media universally opposed it movies with vulnerablenic are the biggest money the series makes anyway so it's not really worth getting worried about social media crap this time. it's of a defeat, but i have a peace of mind now.
>>587711379Yes, in 2005 shadow proves he will keep his peomise to maria forever!
>>587711534Yes by misinterpreting and overwriting the ending the game actually had yay
>>587711509>Just had the realization that social media posts about westshit/vulnerablenic takeover don't matter anyway because even if social media universally opposed it movies with vulnerablenic are the biggest money the series makes anywayTook you a while.>social media crapIf you mean Memories and Beyond, it doesn't even come close to what the movies and Prime do.
ok im having a shit and when im shitting i kind of had weird thoughts. but if sonic's ass isn't visible, how does he shit? does the poop just go in his belly and it never comes out?
This is a dixie franchise.
>>587711534They're adorable
>>587710826How is Maria so cute and perfect?
>>587711687He's a cartoon
>>587711567bulmabitchpost
>>587711707My south will rise again.
just take the hint you doomer hedgehog
>>587710790Sally, stop bothering Shadow
Can anyone give me a HONEST AND ACCURATE description of what happens in the very last sdcene of the game?
>>587711851My dixie breaking the pants.
>more people saw Nintendos post about Sega’s big 35th anniversary game than Sega’s or the Devs post
>>587712118>more people follow nintendoShocker>>587711935Watch the scene and come to your own conclusions. We cant agree on it
>>587711868He loves maria <3
>>587711976Emancipation Ejaculation
Muhria
>>587712118>director thanking Nintendo for saving the marketing lmao
>>587712169Shadver
>>587712626isn't that his son??
>>587712471AAAAAAAAAAAAAAH I'M GOING MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD
>>587711509Movie Sonic makes IDW/Vulnerablebitchnic look pathetic. He spent ten years in isolation
>>587712679They like it for that reason, fujos love incest
>>587700784They are supposed to be fun-sized scrimblo buddies like doraemon. Only furshitters with no imagination specifically have a problem with this
>>587712118This isn't a huge number anyways
>>587712471AAAAIIIIEEEEE *throws dad*
Maria? M-maria??!? *hyperventilates* MARIA NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONO MARIA! OH NO MARIA POOR MARIA *cries* NAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOO AAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAA... *falls on the floor and cries in fetal position*
>>587707980This is a western franchise now and america sees silver more as a ''gay best friend to everyone'' than a potential love interest to anyone(no, fujos rejoicing wont get him next to sonic or shadow either) just warning.
>>587712679Silver is the product of hfoma
>>587712805Pico Park was actually extremely big in Japan but this one has a massive downside to it, Its Sonic.shockingly its getting more attention than the Metaphor port on Switch but in general there’s an Anti Sega sentiment going on in Japan right now due to Yakuza being kind ass these days and their ports being extremely bad
>>587712930Shadow misses his friendsisterwife so much....
>>587712969Anti sega sentiment in japan? care to elaborate?
>>587711673Yeah but they were still largely not ''canon'' this shit is for anniversary.
Remember when Rouge purposely tortured Shadow mentally to steal a Chaos Emerald?
>>587701063Rock is a boy despite the name Rockman. So its not even weird. He was basically Light's cope son.
>>587713089Literally just people online in Japan treating sega the same way here people treat like EA or like Aspyr for example.Sega announces a game and the comments are always “You gonna finish it this time?” Or “Will it run at atleast 30fps?”Kiwami 3 was really fucking messy, Shinobi launching at 30fps with stutters in Japan, and their switch 2 line up being pretty terrible in terms of qualityShit Metaphors demo is broken running at ultra wide resolutions on Switch, and the final version having a performance, balanced, and quality mode that all mainly sit around 20-30fps
>>587713334Sonic X is OOC fuck off
>>587713334NOTCANON
>>587713389Sonic x is canon
>>587701213>Shadow saying Maria's name when he dies.You keep saying this like it means anything.
>>587713334Why is shitdouge such as abusive ship
>>587713334>sonic xRemember when knuckles threw his mom down the stairs
>>587701514I only pair Shadow with Maria yet that is the view I had of Shadow05.Youre wrong
>>587713334IC and canon.
>>587713334Best rouge characterization, rouge is not a whore for sexy playboys she's a THIEF and an ANTI-HERO who manipulates others.
Can we have a Sonic Colors 2
>>587713686Hes mostly right
>>587713334That's how Sonic Team intended their bond to be like
>>587702706That's what Shad05 was doing but Muhriaspergs need him bound to their every command to love him.https://youtu.be/RnLFpPENFog?t=27
>but some faggot on twitter said
>>587714372Poker face is toxic masculinity now.
Ban all Twitter screencaps
>>587714532Cope
>>587714025Sonic X is an almost perfect characterization of windnic, actually. That scene he's running in a dreamscape over some trees and Dark Oak is monologuing? That's how you display Sonic's character and "life philosophy", instead of having him constantly talk about himself and about how much he likes his friends.
This powerscaling mentality is making me not want to fucking interact with this community at all
>>587714698You think Mighty Mouse can beat Superman?
>>587714681>Sonic X is an almost perfect characterization of windnic, actually.Just fuck off. Sonic X isn't in-character and it never was.
>>587714698Powerscaling in Sonic has always been "as the plot demands", lest Sonic and Shadow literally would not struggle with anything that isn't a god kaiju.
Lanolin!
>>587714818Yeah but are they outversal, inversal, multiversal or transversal?
>>587714776You think Shadow and Rouge love each other and that Sonadow is in character, Randomfox.
My OC? "Black The BBC"
>>587714975Big Bad Company
>>587702924
>>587715038The CEO is a bird with a long beak.
Yesterday was dog shit but at least Jewel is starting to get stuff now.
>>587714971Seething Archiefag
>Jewel>Jew-el>is in charge of an organization without merit>ends up destroying itI notice a pattern.
>>587714776>Sonic X isn't in-character and it never was.Why do you think that?
Any other Gemini 4 requests?
>>587715396can you generate two lesbians kissing :3
>>587715146When do they drop
>>587715396can you generate silver and sonic kissing
>>587703567Madonna got recycled into Amy. Madonna was gonna chase Sonic around and even blows heart kisses like Amy does. Modern Amy even looks more like Madonna.
>>587715146
>>587699360Sonic
>>587712118I don't have it on hand, but pretend I'm posting that fucking Nicolas Cage pic at you for making this stupid ass post.
>>587714818That would be a good thing. Write stories that respond to the scale of the series. Sonic isnt street level
>>587713686Can’t believe this faggot will defend Sonic making sad sentimental eyes at Shadow as IC. Oh wait, yes I can. He’s a retard who thinks Forces Tails is IC. Rape this fucknigga
>>587703823>>587704007Maria is not the core concept of Shadow.
>>587714025>this anime became the closest to what Sonic Team imagined it to be>*meanwhile Rouge and Knuckles don't even interact in the games anymore*kek, sure
Sthg low key predicted Sonic acting like this with all those "my feelings posts"
>>587704353Because western writers just had that attitude about female characters and still kind of do.Make her a militant ass kicker is "making her better".
>>587715996Maybe they would have if Naka was still around. You don't know.
>>587715146I'm gonna fug a bug
*makes sad sentimental eyes at (you)*
>>587715146Sex bug, I will fug.>>587716162Finally, someone gets it.
>>587715867Forces Tails is fine
I don't know if that anon from a few days ago who mentioned a JoJo-like setting for Sonic is around, but I'd like to mention that it seems very fitting for NiGHTS. Journey of Dreams is less a sequel and more "just another adventure" and you aren't lost if you didn't play Into Dreams. NiGHTS can forever bounce around different children with different struggles and it'll always work
>>587715996Nobody has interacted with anyone besides Sonic for many years. That doesn’t mean there’s no chemistry possible between non-Sonic characters
>>587716262This. Ppl still refusing to understand Forces' story
>>587716262No it’s not. You hate Tails>>587716342People still refusing to understand Tails’ character
>>587716029Other than eerie/horror art sentimental feelings of characters especially Metal Sonic Shadow Amy Tails from that one thing and S&K are what's most fanart ect is after the standard stuff It's not surprising at all that hedgehog anon was on to something lol
>>587715105BASED
>>587716403...
Out of curiosity, I ripped every character bio from Sonic Central, an old defunct Sega site that used Flash. Here's what the bios said. (2004)Wayback: https://web.archive.org/web/20041119090852/http://www.sega.com:80/sonic/globalsonic/world_chars.swf>SonicLike the wind, Sonic never stands still and is always on the move. Sonic is cool under pressure, particularly when faced by his archenemy Dr. Eggman. He thinks that saving the world is no big feat, and always protects and fights for the underdog. Sonic hates boredom and is constantly looking for his next adventure. Sonic lives and dies by his own rules. He never thinks twice about what others think or say; he is driven by his own sense of justice and fair play. Sonic was born to run and loves to cover as much ground as fast as he can. His demeanor is always cool and calm. When he finds himself in a pinch, he acts as though nothing can stop him. When faced with a serious situation, Sonic bears down on the task at hand, focused on the challenge.>TailsTails is a young fox that has a knack for building things. He's as talented as Dr. Eggman, but has yet to discover the true potential of what he really can accomplish. Sonic has taken Tails under his wing and treats him like a younger brother. Tails wants to prove to Sonic that he's someone to be counted on. Besides his ability to fly using his twin tails, he has become an experienced pilot with the "Tornado," a plane that Sonic helped him build. Tails' fearless character and natural talent with mechanical devices come in handy to help Sonic out of danger.
>>587704910I like this example because there are actual retards that believe this and convinced themselves the point of her story was to say her love for Sonic was bad. Its wild but people really will just twist themselves into pretzels to justify a conclusion.
>>587715593Like an image?
I FUCKING LOVE MY FRIENDS
>>587716784
>>587716892>KnucklesKnuckles was born alone on Angel Island, brought into this world to defend the Master Emerald. That is Knuckles' destiny and fate. If Sonic exemplifies the wind, then Knuckles is the mountain: stern and unmovable. Knuckles is quick to anger, but cool and determined in battle. Even though he considers Sonic his friend, the disposition of the Master Emerald is his ultimate concern. His determination to protect the gem from harm or ill use is set in stone and is unshakable. He is often envious of the adventurous lifestyle Sonic lives and the fame that has followed from Sonic's deeds, but Knuckles is well known in his own right, as a treasure hunter versed in the martial arts.>AmyOnce Sonic saved Amy from the clutches of Dr. Eggman in Sonic CD, the two became fast friends. Amy is graceful and powerful at the same time and though she often gets into trouble, she is stronger than most give her credit for. She has a big crush on Sonic and wouldn't mind if they become more than friends, but Sonic is too busy saving the world to think about having a girlfriend, let alone a wife and kids! With her Piko Piko Hammer and Tarot Cards, Amy has proven herself a valuable member of Sonic's team.>CreamCream, and her Chao sidekick named Cheese, joined Sonic in his fight against evil in Sonic Advance 2 for Game Boy Advance. She flies with her ears and is nearly as fast as her new blue friend. When Dr. Eggman is being especially meddlesome, he gets a blast from Cheese who is hurtled at his doomsday machines by Cream.>BigThis big guy showed up in Sonic Adventure toting his fishing pole and searching for his little friend, Froggy. Sure he's a bit slow, but they say slow and steady wins the race and in the case of Big, they would be right. He's been placed on Team Rose in Sonic Heroes next to Sonic's cutest girl friends, Amy Rose and Cream the Rabbit.
>>587716971>RougeRouge is a world-famous treasure hunter who loves jewels. This fearless female bat is full of sex appeal and knows how to get what she wants. She has a bit of a crush (though she would never admit it) on a certain red echidna that we all know and love. She is secretly inspired by Knuckles' determination to protect the Master Emerald. She has a weakness for jewels, especially large jewels. When she sees one that she wants, she always goes for it, no matter the personal cost. Although she looks and acts like she hasn't a care in the world, her mind is always active and scheming. Once she has a goal, her motives are always mercenary in nature.>ShadowShadow is the spitting image of Sonic, except for his black body. The world's greatest scientist, Professor Gerald, created him for a purpose known only to the Professor. Ageless and immortal, Shadow has the special ability to harness the power of the Chaos Emerald, which allows him to warp time and space. Sharp witted, and willing to do whatever it takes to get what he wants, he always seems to be on the edge. Maria, who was raised with Shadow and was Shadow's only friend, died in front of his very eyes; her final wish was that Shadow save he world. Saving the world from what is a secret only Shadow knows. Traumatized by the grief of her death, Shadow remains strong enough to keep the promise he made to her.>Metal SonicMetal Sonic was created by the evil genius, Dr. Eggman, and is one of Sonic's earliest foes. He is modeled with extreme accuracy after our blue hero, giving him the ability to predict Sonic's moves and match his great speed. The red-eyed Badnik first appeared in Sonic CD in 1993.
>>587717047>FangThis slick wolf weasel has only one thing on his mind: chaos emeralds. He doesn't want to rule the world or anything like that, but he knows the prized glittering jewels will bring a hefty price from the right bidder. This makes him quite a menace for Sonic who must keep the emeralds from falling into the wrong hands...or else.>EggmanHis name says it all: he's a scientist with a body shaped like an egg. With an IQ of 300, he's a certifiable genius, and his evil demeanor makes him think that taking over the world should be easy. Although he always has a master plan for doing this, Sonic always provides the wrinkle that makes his plans collapse around him. Eggman views Sonic as his archenemy, who always seems to spoil the doctor's plans of world conquest. Somehow, deep in his heart, though, he may have a certain fondness for Sonic and his determination.
>>587716968
>>587716892>Like the wind>always on the move / hates boredom and is constantly looking for his next adventure>cool under pressure / His demeanor is always cool and calm / When he finds himself in a pinch, he acts as though nothing can stop him / When faced with a serious situation, Sonic bears down on the task at hand, focused on the challenge>He thinks that saving the world is no big feat>always protects and fights for the underdog>lives and dies by his own rules / driven by his own sense of justice and fair play>never thinks twice about what others think or sayHoly shit, literally every single trait described here is perfect. And they were so consistent about it. I fucking miss real Sonic.
>>587717047>She has a bit of a crush (though she would never admit it) on a certain red echidna that we all know and love. She is secretly inspired by Knuckles' determination to protect the Master EmeraldCute
>>587716262>Tails’ fearless character >fearless>>587716892
>>587717047>Shadow is the spitting image of Sonic, except for his black body.Nigganic
>>587715996Sonic team compromised after 2006 anyway
>>587717113>wolf weaselAnd yet we trust this site to be infallible
I dont like that Sonic can low-diff all his friends at once in base, including Shadow
>>587716892>a plane sonic helped him buildThis site is trash
>>587713335Based and in character.
>>587717760Good thing that isnt what happened headcanon bro
>>587717221
>>587717760It's crazy. Don't think they ever had implied before that uninhibited Sonic was THAT strong. He has moments which approach that like fighting Infinite and defeating Emerl, but still.
>>587713686He's right, yeah. It was overall good and nothing was overly egregious it offensive. Just a few things I would tweak.
>>587717760Damn ok super hoe
>>587714583Yo, Ivo. Is uh... there any particular reason you made a big titty ninja badnik? What's up with that?
>>587718030
>>587714606>Ignores objective facts in front of them>somehow I'm the one coping.I am literally pro Shadria but disagree with you.
>>587717812Technically, couldn't giving it to him in the first place be considered "helping". Quite a reach though.
>>587717760It was Sonic’s strength ADDED TO Metal’s
>>587714896beeping this sheep
>>587715396Would you gen more 90s Sonic RTS cinematic scripts, please?
>>587718070>trusting a jewish doctor
>>587718030Why do you think?
>>587718218Not sure that interpretation holds up. This Metal couldn't really activate or move without Sonic's essence. That would imply it's a direct replication of Sonic this time. More than likely it can't have two power sources at once because evil Metal essence would conflict with good Sonic essence. That seems to be what they were going for.
>>587717987Sonic says: super popular yea I'm super star she a super ho she got me super hard *pouty face*
>>587716892>Besides his ability to fly using his twin tails, he has become an experienced pilot with the "Tornado," a plane that Sonic helped him build.>the "Tornado," a plane that Sonic helped him buildpardon?
>>587718556>because evil Metal essence would conflict with good Sonic essenceBut that’s exactly what happened when he was being hit with Sonic’s memories, the evil Metal tried to fight it off. That’s also why he was able to remove the device at the end
>>587718696It isn't? Metal Sonic AI controlled by Eggman isn't his power source. The point is that the power, skill and experience all comes from Sonic. This Metal had no power of his own.
>>587718912>This Metal had no power of his own.You can’t really say this tho, it was a very brief period of time before the transfer started, and he did crouch down on his own
>>587718595 Movie Sonic is definitely a Ken Carson fan lol
>>587717047>She has a weakness for jewels, especially large jewels.that summed up rouge's entire interest in knuckles.without the master emerald she wouldn't give a shit.
>>587702343
>>587719259Of course. Most of the characters in this franchise have no reason to regularly interact with one another.
>>587719047It seem like that though. If it wasn't their intention to use this Metal to portray an uninhibited Sonic's skill and experience being shown to act for Eggman, it certainly ended up looking it.
That short really reminded me how the idw fans and toxic positivity really dominate the twitter fandom and it's sad.
>>587719449Toxic positivity is not a real thing, you’re just miserable
>>587717047>She has a bit of a crush (though she would never admit it) on a certain red echidna that we all know and love. She is secretly inspired by Knuckles' determination to protect the Master Emerald.WOAH CUTE N CANON AMIRITE?
>>587719449It's pretty much anywhere not here. IDW and movie is now Sonic's principal characterization. The old Sonic you knew from the games is long gone, that's Sega's intention. Frontiers was already teetering on the edge, but it's official now.
>>587717047This is a nearly perfect description of Shadow's character, and the incredible part is that it originated in English first. It's early enough that people haven't tried to rip the character apart yet. It tells you right off the bat that Shadow looks just like Sonic, it was never only an Amy thing. It tells that Gerald is the world's greatest scientist (better than even Eggman), and that Shadow's mastery of Chaos Control is something that sets him apart from others. It describes his sharp wit (his intelligence is overlooked nowadays, many wrongly assume he's average int). It implies that he will go to any lengths necessary (even if those lengths are seen as evil) to achieve his goals. It portrays him as being on the edge (dangerous), not just some generic tsundere that's safe to poke at. And it honors his deep bond with Maria, introduces her as Shadow's one and only friend, and then tells you that her wish drives him to save the world. The bio gives you the impression of a pure but dangerous soul shaped by trauma, yet strong in keeping that promise despise every wrong the world has done to him.I should accept that the perception of these characters have been irreversibly destroyed by the fandom and by spinoff content. But it's hard to do when almost all of these bios are just perfect, sans a couple slip ups that don't detract from the general vibe these bios describe. I miss 00's Sonic a lot and I wasn't even old enough to experience it when it was releasing. He's so cool. I love Shadow a lot.
Why is the thought of Sonic having feelings for Amy seen as bad?
>>587719628No, toxic positivity is absolutely a thing. But yes, that anon is just being a miserable cunt.
>>587719651I do saw that on the other sites i am like tumblr or facebook but it isn't as prominent as it is on twitter.
>>587719694because him being a young awkward shounen is too humanizing, you aren't meant to relate to Sonic
>>587719091This he probably likes most of the artists with in that sound and aesthtic
>>587715867Tails is literally his fave characterhttps://youtu.be/ffFNJdj6rUM
>>587719694That's not the issue. Sonic does have some sort of feelings for Amy but he's too shy or tries to hide it to not lose his cool.
>>587719694Sonic fans are schizophrenic morons. Amy having a crush on Sonic is bad. Amy not having a crush on Sonic is bad. Sonic reciprocating is bad. Sonic not reciprocating is bad. Amy having a crush on Sonic is good, but Sonic reciprocating is bad. Amy not having a crush on Sonic, but Sonic reciprocating is bad. Etcetera etcetera, nothing will ever make these people happy.
>>587713686Yeah pretty much this.
>>587719781>>587720069Why are you even doing here if you feel miserable around us
Remember how we thought Shadamy mogged Sonamy?And it turned out to be Metamy the entire time?
>>587720008>"No, I can't admit that I like this girl I've known for years. People might think I;m not cool anymore!"Fellas, is it gay to like women? >>587719862Every good character has relatable traits. It's a sign that they're being written as a person. Are you saying that Sonic isn't meant to be a person? >inb4 muh windI will stab you. Speak like a person or go back to the smoldering ruins of your Russian bot farm.
>>587699360The problem I have with Memories and Beyond is why did everyone in the battle get hurt? Who did they want us to think was a strong fighter if none of them were spared?
>>587719638AI quick, save Knuxouge bros
>>587720143Kek
>>587719091>>587719954When /sthg/ said vaguely alt people who act cutesy or weird are now what's cool I thought it was a joke but no...But apparently a lot of them really like Sonic so that nice
>>587699360They gotta be some next level delusional in order to cope and pretend otherwise about this scene. She clearly craves BHC (Black Hedgehog Cock).
>>587720143Honestly, it looks like Sonic is sarcastically concerned that Amy is going to fuck him into the dirt once she catches him. And how awful that would be.
>>587716892>Sonic hates boredom
>>587720474the scene where she though a close friend had died?
I prefer jp sonic but ngl i like this moment. Probably because i'm a filthy sonamy fan.
>>587718357Need more of a prompt.
>>587720474This post summed it up perfectly>>587689903
You got what you wanted when you begged for fans to take over the franchise after Forces. You got what you wanted when you said Ian should write for the games. You got what you wanted when you said Japan shouldn't control the franchise.
>>587716892>Tornado," a plane that Sonic helped him build.Well, that's just wrong.
>>587720537Shadow and rouge aren't friends. you love ian flynn.
>>587720346this may be hard to believe but it wasnt written with powerlevel agenda in mind
>>587720642I ship Knouge because of SA2
>>587715146fucking SLUTS
>>587718646Sonic built the Tornado himself; when they say Tails helped they meant the booster.
>>587720537>friendTheir last interaction in that game was Shadow telling the Bat he was gonna kill her if she touched the Chaos Emeralds in the console you stupid fuck. They weren't friends at all but Rouge still wanted dick and had just gotten Alpha Widowed.
>>587720279It was never going to be Shadamy anyway.
>>587720435That chick on the bottom right and the snow white looking guy next are currently are the most influential from what i seen on my feeds I'm not too familiar with this stuff They do actually one of them out right just referencing .exe
>>587720650
>>587720726Everything points to her wanting Shadow as a friend and she's trying hard for it.She's never stated she had romantic feelings for him.
I want Rouge to go back to being a morally grey thief. She shouldn't be in a relationship with anybody. Her crush on Knuckles doesn't go beyond a crush, she's more concerned with stealing his gem. She will fuck over both Knux and Shadow to get what she wants, because she relies on herself.
>>587720650Yep. I got everything I wanted. Cope and seethe.
>>587720978>Shadow telling the Bat he was gonna kill her if she touched the Chaos Emeraldshe was being tsun
>>587721126are you forgetting that friendship is two-sided
>>587720934>Sonic built the Tornado himselfNo he didn't. >inb4 some manual or interview or whatever says he didI do not believe that Sonic has any kind of engineering knowledge or skill, and certainly not enough to build an aircraft. Where the fuck did he even get the parts? With what money? >b-butNo. Sometimes lore is wrong because it is at odds with basic logic.
>>587720846The game where they spent the whole game trying to kill each other over shinies until rouge decided it wasn't worth her time because she still had a mission and knuckles only saves her because she had pieces of his gem? Not exactly a match made in heaven
Metal Sonic bros did we win bigly
Soon™
>>587716971>>Amy>Once Sonic saved Amy from the clutches of Dr. Eggman in Sonic CD, the two became fast friends. Amy is graceful and powerful at the same time and though she often gets into trouble, she is stronger than most give her credit for. She has a big crush on Sonic and wouldn't mind if they become more than friends, but Sonic is too busy saving the world to think about having a girlfriend, let alone a wife and kids! With her Piko Piko Hammer and Tarot Cards, Amy has proven herself a valuable member of Sonic's team.Tarot deniers in SHAMBLES
>>587721263>letting her stick around and not making her back offThat's friendship for Shadow
>>587713334Sonic X was self aware about how bad of a character Shadow was
Sorry for the twitter screencap but this is how i feel the modern fandom acts
>>587721304They have a love-hate relationship. The writer of the game liked lots of art where they're fighting with sexual tension.
>>587720650Yeah, and we’re in a much better spot now
>>587721126>as a friend
>>587721050Qu-....ACK!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-Yn4vkvTnQ
I will never understand Rouge shippers. It's like you refuse to acknowledge her greed.
>>587721424They have a hate-hate relationship. It's "love-hate" in sonic x alone according to sega
>>587721294Sonic is a genius-level hacker, remember?
>>587721171>I got something better than jewels this time. I'll call it evenWhat do you think happened anon? What do you think that meant?
>>587719997Clearly not if he defends Farces
>>587721519I understand rouge shippers, but I'll never understand people who ship her with knuckles. Feel like an abuse fetish.
>>587721469Amy Rose is famously demoted to a friend these days
>>587721654>Feel like an abuse fetish.opposed to Shadow who threatens her?
Why hasn't BUMdow trained by constantly removing the Inhibitors and getting used to the strain like Goku did with the Kaioken/Super Saiyan?
>>587721628She was talking about shadow since she was holding his limiter and looking at it. Kind of implies she was calling him more precious than jewels.
>>587721368What friendship?
>>587721781We dunno how they work
>>587721009That's Molly Santana she the reason for the blue hair goth look now and her music is on top rn
>>587721424You and your mother have a love-throw relationship. She slept outside your door last night, remember?
>>587721654
>>587721786>since she was holding his limiter and looking at it.Famously not what happens in that scene, no, her hands are empty.
>>587721703
>>587720642I did because Sonic Adventure 2. Most people do. It's the first thing anyone thinks of. The scene after their rival battle dripping with sexual tension only to look into eachother's eyes before pulling away because they are supposed to be rivals.
the writer of sa2 supports knuxouge and liked this on pixiv
>>587722061He supports sonadow too what now
>>587721171Based and agreed
>>587721935In the original cutscene you can't see her hands but it's fairly obvious. There's no other reason she'd be looking outside. Occams razor suggests it would make no sense for her to be referring to knuckles as mode precious than jewels.
>>587721294Anon, the original Tornado isn't high-tech. It's fuggin' past-century! It's like assembling a gunpla, except to do some basic island-hopping. Besides, he probably had oversight from family since his mangadad is quasicanon.
>>587722113sounds like sonadow > shadouge
>>587721835If Goku trained staying constantly in Super Saiyan in order for that to become his natural self, BUMdow should be able to apply the same concept to staying constantly without Inhibitors. He's just a bum that refuses to train.
>>587721959This first thing anyone thinks of is sonic x since it's all you shipfags talk about. You bring up Sa2 because it's the only game where they actually interact for more than five seconds.
>>587722136RougeCHAD!!!
sonic character equivalent to this?
>>587721304>knuckles only saves her because she had pieces of his gemHe literally says he is sorry if he hurt her like an awkward dork before running off lol.What is this cope?Knuckles is a heroic character. He saved her because he is a good person. His reaction after doing so is to question why she is acting antagonistic after he saved her life.He only says "i just wanted the ME pieces anyway" is him being defensive because she called him a pervert.
Shadow generations giving Shadow new alien powers is the only thing giving me hope for actual changes in the future.
>>587703823>"Smartails"This is NOT it, man. "Smartails" is the flanderization. If Sonic is the wind and Knuckles is the mountain, then Tails is the SKY. The HEAVENS. Or even electricity, since Heroes uses that as the Fly-type's element. Tails wants to fly high so he can reach the highest of all the heavens. That aspiration and motivation is what drives him. Reducing him to just the smart guy is what kills the character by removing that underlying context.
Rougefags, who would you want her to officially date if Shadow and Knuckles were not an option?
>>587722113I don't think he supports or cares about sonadow(eastern creators will simply just be happy about fanart and support appreciation but that doesnt mean they like that ship personally) in his more personal pixiv there is no sonadow.but i also don't think he cares about knuxouge or any other ship besides shadria properly, the knuxouge pics are only there because they are included in a pool that has shadria.
>>587721508https://youtu.be/KYKPc-DooNo
How did we come to the point where the majority of the Fandom cheers and defends this new characterization for Sonic?
>>587721408Yup, its unfortunate but many such cases.
>>587722271ngl shadougefags bring up x to seethe at knougefags more than knougefags bring up x
Is the "majority" in the room with us right now?
>>587722336it's the bulmafagmad again
>>587722392>Shadow generations giving Shadow new alien powersi hate itit only reinforces his loneliness and being different from everyone else
>>587721613>Sonic "hacks" the highly advanced alien precursor technology by... running fastFrontiers is trash. Sage really is the only redeeming factor of this trash. >>587722148You still need to have engineering skills and parts to build a plane. >PaulieOne of these fucking days, I'm gonna end up reading that manga, and I suspect a lot of really stupid shit is going to make a lot more sense.
>>587722413Absolutely no one.
>>587722540Reddit, twitter, tumblr—practically all social media. This franchise has been completely taken over.
>>587722413I'm a Rougefag. She shouldn't date Knuckles, she shouldn't date Shadow, she shouldn't date anyone. If you say otherwise you are not a Rougefag you are a self-inserter.
>>587722141Yes, you can see her hands. As i just posted. Rewatch it. Her hands move about and you can see they are empty. She isnt holding shit and now you have to move your goalpost
>>587722324Caliburn's sheathe.That's a character, right?
>>587722559>it only reinforces his loneliness and being different from everyone elseThat's the FUCKING POINT of Shadow
>>587722148>quasicanonNo it isnt retard
>>587722559As if Sonic wouldn't think the tentacles are cool
>>587721935Bro pretending her looking at the hand that was holding the ring when she actually says the line doesn't happen LMAO.
>>587722559shadow is the lonely character who is different from everyone elsestfu
>>587722413Wave is the third best option.
>>587716971>and is nearly as fast as her new blue friend.Ah yes, I remember this... official confirmation that Cream is nearly as fast as Sonic.
>>587722412This so much
I wrote a storyhttps://poe.com/s/GSLS1X2HnnoJKqvfTPY1
Anyone saying shadow can't date rouge because of maria is conveniently overlooking knuckles and the master emerald. The latter is arguably way worse because the ME isn't dead and out of the way. The only way you could ever make those characters work (assuming you got them to stop fighting long enough) is if you destroyed what makes them special. You need rouge to stop being a jewel thief and knuckles to stop being a guardian. There's no point unless you genuinely despise the characters so much you're willing to ruin them so you can play house.
>>587722169We dunno how the inhibitors work
>>587722718it hurts his chances of moving on from maria and forming relationships
>>587722141>There's no other reason she'd be looking outside.I don't even know how to respond to this. This is retardation and autism of the highest levels.
>>587722392Why? They dont even stick theyre for one game
>>587720639The kingdom of Acorn is on the verge of victory when something unexpected happens that threatens to undo all their gains.As indicated in https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/585594274/#585638926The kingdom's regency council splits when long lost prince suddenly returns.The script is in similar structure as in https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/587633053/#587637074The commander is forced to make tough decisions.
>>587722413Her wife, Topaz. Duh.
>>587722981GOOD
>>587722773In case tardcklescuck pretends it's a callback to Cuckles rescuing her, it's not, Cuckles grabbed her by the left arm. Completely different hand than the one held the ring in AND looked at when saying the line. Fucking faggot cuck.
>>587722916>shadow can't date rouge because of mariaIt's not just because of Maria.He genuinely does not care for anyone else.
>>587722773Notice how shes holding it when shes with Sonic and then not holding it when shes with Knuckles
>>587722981shadow isn't supposed to "move on" from maria and form relationships. he is the lone wolf character. i seriously wish you would fuck off, you're the reason this sentimental steven universe slop has invaded the franchise
>>587720435>>587721009>>587721910Surge was found dead in a ditch
>>587721781>>587721835>>587722169>supposedly shonenslop>the only one who actually does any training is the prissy pink girlFucking OOF.
>>587723114>He genuinely does not care for anyone elseHe wasted an item on Rouge to keep her from getting wet in the river. Also wasted time saving her bitch ass by going BACK im a fucking race just to save her from Eggman/Sage.
>>587722981I'm glad it happened then. You hate Shadow.
>>587723150>Maria actually wants Shadow to remain a lone wolf and not live his own life with other people no
>>587723145See >>587723073She's not thinking about Cuckles bro. There's 0 connection to her gesture when saying the line and Cuckles. Like nothing at all.
>>587723267rouge is a valuable ally to him at most. maria was his only friend. it's been this way since 2001, archiefag.
>>587723393Im not saying shes thinking about Knuckles im just rebuking the notion she was holding the ring because she was t
>>587723371Maria wants him to save the world. That's her dying wish. You want Steven Universe but with Shadow. You want Uwuver but with Shadow. Kys.
>>587723073>CucklesReminder that the Master Emerald likes Rouge. Like, a lot, apparently.
>>587723150>>587723150>shadow isn't supposed to "move on" from mariaBro didn't play Shadow Generations let alone even watch its ending kek.
>>587723517he mentions her in crossworlds dood
>>587722981His powers literally have nothing to do with Maria. You can have an alien and move on. What are you even talking about
I used to think Maria would be sad that Shadow didnt move on from her and live for himself but Shadow Generations shows she doesnt even think far. Gerald and Rouge both tell Shadow to move forward and live for himself but Maria says no such thing.Maria truly is the opposite to Black Doom with her impositioning.
>>587723424How exactly did Rouge act as an ally rather than a detriment in that race? She only held him back.
>I want Shadow to become le sweetie tsundere shitty friend who immediately becomes irrelevant afterwards like the several other characters in the franchise that did the exact same thing and already fill that role, I need him to DEVELOP and by DEVELOP I actually mean I am a self-inserter with the mind of a child who wants to use Shadow as a coping mechanism for my own loneliness, if I have to think for more than two seconds about how the character thinks using context clues without it being spelled out for me I will have a brain aneurysm because I am addicted to instant dopamine hits from social media and it needs to be immediately obvious to me what he's thinking, I cannot handle any amount of trauma or seriousness or permanence in my baby franchise despite bitching incessantly about how everything is Hello Kitty now, remove all original traits @Sega I cannot #relate please make him #relatable
>>587723509that's just ABT wanting Shadow to fuck his own OC
>>587723604Shadow won't "move on". You want shipslop and won't be getting it. Go outside and form real relationships instead of trying to live through an anime rat
>>587723593Moving on doesn't mean forgetting dood.
>>587723509The master emerald was just showing knuckles his closest friends. Apparently rouge literally ranks above the chaotix and just below sanic
>>587721469>taking it out of context
>>587723795when has rouge ever been close with knuckles??
>>587723749Then what do you mean by it? Making him form friendships? Killing his role as the lone wolf character? Making him fuck a pussy or an asshole? All of those suck. You just want to make him the same as every other characters in the franchise.
>>587723795The Chaotix have no reason to be high, Knuckles hasnt claimed to value them just from one adventure
>>587721408I swear I made this pic before
>>587721635Why do you lack any semblance of curiosity or introspection? What if you are t
>>587722725Pretty sure it was said that the Hedgehog family was designed for potential use with early-game Sonic and were in internal notes for a surprisingly long while.
can someone post the new coro coro chapter?
>>587723669>immediately becomes irrelevantHe literally jobbed in the latest video. A lone wolf is cool when he actually does shit and rn he's better of he just gets it on with Rouge. He's gonna look as pathetic as Tien if he tries the lone no bitches route and has no feats to back up his choices.
>>587723795Yeah but those camera angles though. Methinks the M.E enjoys Rouge's visits. Can't imagine why.
>>587723742This doesnt mean much coming from someone who lives through the anime rat's anime human sisterwife
>>587723902I mainly call these twitter fans cause that's we're most of the guys that think like that are.
>>587723886>Making him fuck a pussy or an asshole?maybe if he fucked some bat pussy and asshole he'd stop being an edgy tard
>>587723235God I want her to grab me by the neck and swing me around like a ragdoll. That's how I want to go.
>>587723953Im sure you have a source for this huh?
Amazing to me that the same people who complain about how lame and gay and sentimental and frenship this series is now also try to destroy the one character who is inherently opposed to lame gay sentimental frenship slop. It reminds me of Evan Stanley.
>>587724024I like that he's a lone wolf. If you don't like him go like Sonic.
>>587723886I rather have Vegeta than Tien, yes. Unless Shadow can go back to actually being relevant powerscalingwise, he's better getting a hot bitch.
>>587723995is tikal still in the master emerald?
>the shadow maria war is getting twisted to be about the uwufication agendaSigh
>>587722271I literally don't even bring up X. This entire idea is a meme Shadougefag invented to try and discredit their dynamic.
>>587724000I don't want Maria to be revived and fuck him. I want Shadow to remain the character he was conceptualized as.
>>587723967>He's gonna look as pathetic as Tien if he tries the lone no bitches route and has no feats to back up his choices.Oh it'll be way worse than that. Remember that the logical conclusion of the forced MUH-RIA characterization is King Shadow. You did remember to pray to Maria today, right?
>>587723207nettspend is cool too imo
>>587724147She's still a little light ball spirit on Angel Island, but whether she's specifically still residing in the Master Emerald or not isn't exactly clear.
>>587723967>>587724131You hate Shadow. Sonic the sentimentalhog is more your speed. That's basically what you want Shadow to be.
Remember when we had that discussion about Sonic hugging Tails and SoleilAnd they argued, why Sonic can't show vulnerability one timeOne timeOne time
I hate that I am stuck with you fags because every other place that talks about Sonic is so much worse.
I would support the Shadow loner gimmick if he had not been humilliated fighting the afterimages of Super Metal Sonic. Drop the edgy act if you gonna be a bitch.
>>587724226>archieshit>the same archieshit where he fucks a bitch
Can you get more Mary sue than a song that says you are the chosen one?
>>587724283>>587724147There is no reason Tikal would be in the Master Emerald. Nobody is in it.
>>587724303>you hate Shadow because you don't want him to end like TienLOL.
moveondowfags are the uwuverfags of shadowthey want shadow to act like this
>>587724147
>>587724313Same
>>587724274Shadow and Rouge
>>587724456literally who? shadow is popular because he is a loner character
>>587724486Youre letting obvious shitposters coopt the moveondow argument and then framing all of them like that to discredit anyone who wants to actually talk about the regression and inconsistency
>what if shadow wasn't shadow?sthg is retarded
>>587721786No, what she was talking about is ehat she said. That there are things more important than just jewels. If you werent just a shipfag and actually cared about her arc, you would realise that through both Shadow and Knuckles, Rouge learns the merit of caring about things beyond just superficial personal gain. Knuckles is dedicated to his duty as guardian and that inspired her. Seeing Shadow say even if he isnt real, he will fulfill his promise to Maria because its all he has left impacted her. That's why Shadow's death mattered to her because she saw how much he meant it. Bro died for that shit.So now Rouge, as materialistic and selfish as she is, now has a spot in her soul for seeing the merit of having higher values. That's the point.It isn't about shadouge. It isn't even really about Knuxouge either.I dont like the people whose interpretation was that she was gonna stop being a jewel thief for Knuckles either.
>>587724630>factoidWho wrote this
>>587724604There is no regression. Two official sites from 2007 - 08 say Maria is his motivation. You developed a headcanon as a child and now you're attempting to ruin the character's story with it.
>>587724421>>587724550This those post above about new popular vague alt artist is proof they stole he look
>>587724550Some loner who is weak as shit despite going incel and training his whole life only to end weaker than the guy who fucked the hottest bitch in the verse.
>>587724710Moveondowfags think Shadow would be a better character if he acted like this
>>587724205Honestly, starting to think it is think it is. In a previous thread they were So Sure that the 2006 internal profile directly directly (two directlies!) said that it originated from Sonic X, but if you actually read it it's using noncommittal language either way and only cites Sonic X as an example rather than saying it invented it wholesale.
>>587724727>one official site brought up SA2 as his backstoryAnd what did the other one say
>>587722559That's literally the point of Shadow.
Tangle WhisperLanolinJewelThe Core 4...
>>587724771This should be Shadow's characterization. Replace Sonic with Shadow and give him the same non-edgy expression. I hate Maria and love Evan Stanley.
>>587724778No we dont
>>587724486No one says he should start acting like a faggot.But returning Rouge's feelings and finding happiness with that wouldn't hurt his character
>>587724835>>587706806>>587706207
>>587722413Rouge isn't really the "dating" type. She is a strong independant bad girl who don't need no man. Doesn't mean she doesnt have feelings for people. She does. But she isnt looking for a relationship.
Shadouge seems to be the only ship where both characterfags like to undermine each character for the sake of the ship. At least Silver and Blaze don't have anything else going on so Silvaze doesn't ruin them at all.
>>587724948You keep getting mad that Shadow doesn't act like a faggot. You want Shadow to be this. That's the purpose of making him "find happiness", making him uwu
>be a ripoff of Vegeta>not allowed to have any of the character development that made Vegeta so popularPathetic. The hell is the point of Shadow? Put him in the trash with Silver if you're gonna make him shit on purpose.
>>587724486I want Shadow to either get back to being the strongest in the verse or move on from acting like he is and start doing something else because atp he is not even Kaiba, he's Tenshinhan.
>>587725082>mariafags admit they just want shadow to serve maria mindlessly and sadly for the rest of eternity
>>587725057>Shadouge seems to be the only ship where both characterfags like to undermine each character for the sake of the shipand Knuxouge
>>587724147No, that's a weird fanon thing I still dont understand how it ever caught on.
>>587724990Rouge isn't a modern feminist girlboss character, that's Amy. She does need men sometimes and isn't above admitting it. She is awell rounded character like that.
>>587725082Omg shadow should act just like picrel, basically we should give shadow that exact expression to show how happy and friendly he is now! Moveondowbro btw, I love Ghosts of the future and Memories and Beyond
>>587724985>save the world from whatYes, treating 05 like a mystery since we know that was what. Lemme guess Silver still hates Iblis?
>>587725112Current Shadow is Saiyan Saga Vegeta characterization with the Frieza Saga feats. It's downright pathetic.
>>587725112Bulmafag...
>>587725170she sealed herself and chaos in the ME
I don't understand how this board moves so fast. How are there that many Sonic fans here?
>>587725170Archie did it
>>587724784Yes, shiptards tend to twist things to push agendas. Very comon unfortunately.
>>587724068He's a pic of the parents spotted in concept art at Sega Software R&D Dept. 8
>>587725257You hate Shadow
>>587725286Iizuka didn't watch Dragon Ball if that's what he thought Vegeta was. Unless he's going off of DBS
>>587724752Jane remover still rocking the red and blue on her deluxe album drop on Nov 12She's literally one of the best rappers/artists out on the charts Shadow would be proud
>>587725365Thats not "it was said"
>>587725385Shadow saves the world due to his memories of Maria. This is the character. He is a tragic and merciless character. And I like that.
>>587723913Why do you lack any sense of free will and critical thinking beyond “if it’s in a game I MUST defend it it for daddy Sega of Japan”
>>587725305
>>587724421You dont know what a mary sue is
>>587725385I liked when Shadow was Top 1 and hate his current bitch ass version, yes. rn he's no different from the jobber he was in Archie.
>>587725170>I still dont understand how it ever caught on.
Shadow would be a better character if he acted just like this. Fuck Maria, stupid bitch is holding Shadow back from becoming friendly and wholesome.
>>587725305No its just a couple of us arguing
>>587724948Fuck off Dougeshitter. Youre poison8ng the discourse on MoveOnDow.
>>587724310Tails is worth hugging many times. Sorry that you’re a sad sack
Get a job krack
>>587725365>his mom is going the "anime waifu only wears an apron (and little else)" thing
>>587725661So Soleil gets a pass
>>587725187I wanted to say "nice shitpost" but that would require saying the post was good.Work on it a little
>>587725661get fucked
>>587725721Shes wearing pants coomtardbro
>>587725592Your version of Shadow only works if he was something like Beerus. The strongest in the verse that could solve all the problems if he wanted but simply doesn't.
>>587725646rouge is stuck wanting to be with shadow so the best thing for her is shadow wanting to be with her
>>587725365Just a shot in the dark: could it be these were concepts for Sister Sonic? Since we know less about that game than we thought and Tania seems strangely prominent in most of these.
>>587725429The Shadow vibes are intentional lol
>>587725297To stop Chaos from rampaging. It isnt like their home or where they belong or anything and never was. But fans treat it like it is and I never understood why.Tikal was literally just some echidna tribe girl who was friends with Chaos. The chief's daughter.
>>587725842The best thing is to unchain Rouge from Shadow actually
>>587725743One time yes. We’ll probably never even see him again
>>587725903Cool then every oc of the week will get a pass and Hugnic will just stay and never leave
>>587725326Did it?>>587725582It was a thing for years before this. Nibrock used to post here before putting it into Speed Sim to try and win internet arguments.
>>587725957Fine by me. Hugs are good actually
>>587725991Archie reboot has Chaos and Tikal "leap out" of the ME when the world gets shattered to help/inform Knuckles
Shadow should stop being a lone dark anti-hero and develop into a more emotionally available and friendly hero who's good with the ladies, like Silver. For that though we need him to forget Maria.
>>587725871
>>587725508I don't. But I dont pretend things in the game arent in thr game to push agendas, or treat them as inherently bad because of weird internet discourse optics rather than taking it for what it is. There is no sense is not being charitable.
>>587726009So Tailsfags out themselves that they dont care about Sonic's characters
>amy is losing her love interest aspect >sonic is now weak and vulnerable What the fuck will you be doing in a year’s time when it gets worse
>>587726086Silver is the gay best friend they all trust
>>587725880All official works since SA1 shows that they still hang around the ME. Though off the top of my head that's basically just the Forces prequel comic and the Frontiers prequel animation.
>>587726106Forces Tails is bad because *I* said it’s bad. I didn’t need anyone else to tell me that. Tails shouldn’t cower like that EVER. You don’t understand Tails
>>587726163still working on my fanfic
>>587725842No on both ends. Also Rouge would be better if she was free to work in more scenarios again instead of being stuck as Shadow's nanny.
>>587726163This short made me realize I have to write my own stories if I want to see Sonic at his peak again. So I guess writing fanfics.
>>587726209>All official works since SA1 shows that they still hang around the ME.Shit you made up to push an agenda. They went up.They dont live in the ME. Yet fans pretend they do.
>>587726125And you out yourself as a miserable fuck who doesn’t understand Sonic’s character
>>587726097>normies seething and coping over Jane popularity She's the chosen one
>>587726220No one has any reason nor is there any merit in listening to you tho. That isnt how convos work.>I dont care!!!Clearly you do because you make it a problem everytime.
>>587725880>But fans treat it like it is and I never understood why.its canon
>>587726543Same to you. Just because you make stupid rant videos and post them on youtube doesn’t mean anyone needs to listen to you either
>>587726050It's always archie....
Forces is bad and ruined Sonic.
bake the bread
>>587725082>picAAAAAAA IM GOING INSANEI WANT EVAN TO LEAVE SILVER ALONE
>>587725454But is IS "pretty sure" smartass, having a little finding the quote at the moment but maybe I misremembered.
>>587726825Evan is the only one who still cares about Silver in any capacity, your ungrateful ass should be thanking her for wanting to write stories about him at all
>>587726901You did misremember
>>587726427All I know is thst her being trans makes amd still being one of the best of new rap and pop makes some street guys seethe
>>587726979Hire Miijiu and let her write Silver instead.
>>587724874>Tangle sucking Sonic's dick>Whisper sucking Silver's dick>Lanolin sucking Shadow's dick>Espio licking Jewel's office lady pussyfuuuaaarkkkkkk
>>587726901It is pretty odd that they're in the reference material though.
I'll bake at 800
Guys, hear me out. IDW Silver isn’t defined by trauma. He’s defined by being cool, calm, and actually liked. Shadow could be that too if we let go of the ‘I must suffer because of Maria’ baggage. Fixing the character is as simple as trading toxic masculinity and self-sabotage for emotional availability and warmth. He’d still be the ultimate life form, just with the capacity to actually care about things like growing a garden and watching Netflix with his new family. Maria’s influence was… extra. It’s okay to let go. He’s allowed to be friendly. He’s allowed to be loved. He’s allowed to stop carrying the world by himself. Make Shadow whole.
THAT'S Sister Sonic??
>>587727413What is this falseflag operation to coopt the moveondow argument?
>>587727413Are Silverfags the most autistic Sonic subgroup?
>>587727484It's literally what you want
>>587725429The Marías
>>587719449Whenever i see the profile of one of those type of fans, i see that they're always a minor by bio description or the way they type. I guess the new young fans that got in the franchise via idw or the movie are catching onto us...
I said I want my Sonic stiff, not A stiff! Can I change my order?
All this weird aggression towards characters giving a damn about each other just tells me that Sonic fans are telling on themselves as friendless losers. None of you have anyone in your life, and you're desperate to make it everyone else's problem.
>>587726636Adding to this discussion. SA had Tikal guiding the heroes in their journey, and then in later media ME for unknown reasons communicates with Knuckles, so the theory is that it's somehow Tikal again. In Battle, Chaos comes back from/around the ME, so he is not permanently sealed into anything, but is somewhere in/near ME.
>>587728025Go back to your general, mariofag.
>>587728062It's ok because Sonic is the one in love with her now.
>>587727743>i see that they're always a minor by bio descriptionPretty obvious by the lack of their argumentation skills, mainly the refusal to engage with the point and mockery.
>>587728127Mamma Maria!
>>587728127You're also weirdly desperate to force the idea that anyone who criticizes you must be part of some outer group.
/sthg/ can we talk?
>>587728406No.
>>587727514they're mostly self-inserters in denial
>>587728515>>587728515>>587728515
>>587728469Oh uh that's ok maybe later?
>>587726371Don't take your retardation out on me. The sources are out there. Go yell at Sega.
>>587726647I'm not randomfox, you schizo.
>>587728193That's not even close to true. Amy's origin and relation to Sonic should still be in her bio.
