>News, Dev Blogposts & Podcasthttps://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/>Upcoming Patch Noteshttps://foreverchanges.pro/patch-notes>Talent Calculatorhttps://foreverchanges.pro/talents>NA Guilds<FUN HAVERS> PvE Alliance<Mulgore Dairy Farmers> PvE Horde<You Have To Go Back> PvP Horde<fell for it award> PvP Alliance<Clover Club> RP-PvP Alliance<Daybreak Company> RP-PvE Alliance<Gnome Disposal Unit> RP-PvE Horde>NA Horde Community (Cross-Ruleset)Press 'J' in-game, copy and paste the following invite code and hit 'Join': vEP9rqMuWAx>EU Guilds<Breeland Watch> PvP Horde<FRESH> PvP Alliance<Wrench> PvE Horde<Non Functional> PvE Alliance>How to join a guildType /who g-"Guild Name" to see who is online and whisper anyone.>Previous >>587866386
alliance NA pvp?
horde
>tfw you enter a troll townhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4WY2VAQNjk
Down syndrome.
>>587883772Green Tyrones
Reposting here, is maelstrom weapon a bad talent? I feel like it's not very effective at what it does since I don't use it most of the time the mob has died before I can get 5 stacks.
So is Aggrand retarded or something?
>>587883753make it for me
what's the rough conversion between int and spell power?I feel like the blue is better than the green but the addon says otherwise
Built for Green Tyrones
Is this really just a 30-60 beta?
>>587883840try aggroing 2 mobs next time
you wouldnt last a minute with us anon
Hehe, penis.
>alliance now organizing and raping horde as horde scatterI thought y'all said alliance is done when Asmon left?
>27g at 38.75i'm not going to make it brehs
>>587883891fuck
>>587883962>my ancestor :)
>Horde gets ogres>Alliance gets ???My money is on worgen. Personally I think I'd like neutral goblins but I doubt blizz would ever do that. I hope they don't add broken but draefags are insistant
>>587883962Love your screenshots.
>>587883810>tfw entering tauren town or a dwarf owned gun store as a taurenhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_4AdBmpMEY
>>587883992Cock destroyers
ADD PLAYABLE GOBLINS PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
>>587884059>WarlockAre you on a PVP server? Stick with the stam/int. If you're PVE or in a dungeon, wear the blue.
>>587883992I heard they drain shotas to death.
>>587884089Thanks...
>>587884048>40g at 29>but can't level because of fucking allies
>>587884059defs the magister unless you are getting ganked or fighting a lot
>>587883840just leave it at 1 point for an occasional LB and put the points somewhere better, its not worth full 5 points
>>587884132OK but they look like this and there are 0 females in the species anymore.
>>587884048Im a level 35 priest with 5g and I’m not even up to date on all spellsSomeone help me
When did rogues stop being the dirty, sneaky bastard who likes sneaking around and stealing shit and couldn't win in a fair fight, but never fights fair, and start being the anime ninja main character.
>>587884086I feel like Sky Elves were added to solve the 'Horde need a pretty race' conundrum that Blood Elves did and now Alliance needs the 'Alliance needs a non-conventional race' race that Draenei/Worgen fulfilled.I do think Goblins will come eventually but they'll be like Sky elves and neutral.Hell if they actually want to make this shit 'forever' make goblins true neutral able to party with any faction and go into any capital. If a goblin wants to PVP they can take 'contracts' and shit. Goblins are the least played race so it's not like it'd even be overrun or anything.
>ding 40Do I keep putting points into BM or do I put the rest into marksmanship?
>just hit 60>only 600gI've been left behind...
This thread is claimed for the Crusade
>>587884048>10g at 39>But I'm a paladinYou could have prevented this.You could have played G-ds chosen.
>>587884059Blues way higher ilvl. But mp5 is a super expensive stat and also might not be that good for warlocks because they just tap. I’d probably still use the higher ilvl item.
PVE or RP?
You know you subhumans could just stay in /wowg/ and not obsess over shitting up every new bake because no one wants to play retail or post in your dead nigger wow generals
>>587884369>Me and the boys about to run our nightly sermon train with Whitemane
>>587883992sorry, I don't play with filthy wh*res.my heart belongs to my succi
There is nothing that would be lost by removing rogues from the game. >provide nothing for the group/raid>are not fun to play in a Pve setting >impossible to balance (either op or up) >very rarely played on PvE servers >dominant in PvP in so many iterations of the game. >undermine or flat out ruin organized PvP like AB or AV >only beloved by griefers It’s crazy to think about. How one class adds nothing to the game but a net negative. >inb4 lol ur mad Im not even playing today. Just was thinking about it. Man, rogue was such a garbage idea.
>>587884371nah i dont want to be a healer
>>587883667>>NA Guilds><FUN HAVERS> PvE Alliance><Mulgore Dairy Farmers> PvE Horde><You Have To Go Back> PvP Horde><fell for it award> PvP Alliance><Clover Club> RP-PvP Alliance><Daybreak Company> RP-PvE Alliance><Gnome Disposal Unit> RP-PvE Hordewhy the fuck couldnt /wowfg/ decide on a single faction/ruleset like retail does?
>>587884512Because we have have 20x the pop that /wowg/ does.
24 gold at 34i think im making great progress :)
I've never played battlegrounds before, are they something people take seriously or is it like CoD where everyone is just fucks around?
Can you enter to dungeons if you're not the min lvl? I wanna get my friend through Graveyard and he's just lvl 28
>>587884710The hard minimum level to physically walk into the Scarlet Monastery: Graveyard (SM GY) instance portal in World of Warcraft Classic is level 20
>>587884650If you're playing with randoms you will get random chance at both
>>587884650just fuck about, defend objectives, take objectives. ez
>>587884650Your team wil be full of dude weed LOL, know nothing no it alls and 14 year old raging retards while the enemy team is a crack commando unit forged in the fires of war and with a steel clad sense of comradery and purpose.
is alex running any more dungeons tonight?
>>587884145>>587884232warlock on PvEI figured that but I wasn't sure if the crit from int was better>>587884375is there a way to check ilvl in game?
>>587883667noob question, I have a warlock and I need to be at 30yards before using my abilities, is there an easy way to check that? without having to look at the hotkey on the skill? (from red to white)?
>>587884086>ogresThis fucking meme needs to DIE. They look like dogshit
>>587884476rogue needs a rapid reimagining and total re invention. The class is completely swamped in the fact it’s original development name was The Assassinand I say this as a rogue main. three specs that do basically the same shit in most expansions of the game is boring. the class fantasy sucks most of the time it needs a change up and reinvention from the ground up. give them bucklers. have a spec that puts more focus on Thievery with stealing and utility. give a ranger spec. do something here
>constantly hear about horde players wanting to play with friends on pvp server but can't>constantly hear about alliance players quitting pvp servers because they're being ganked 5v1Why do alliance pvp players not have friends to bring in?
Disc or holy for dungeon healing? Which one is better?
>>587884881How about...If we give one of the specs pistols and an RNG mechanic?We could call it like... brigand spec or maybe pirate spec?
>>587884305Rogues became ninjas as early as vanilla level 60 raidlogging, just look at those tier sets.
>>587884874Download forever auras, there's a range aura on wago.io
>>587884512>>587884595if you want to play with /wowg/ you have foxxo, also known as koragon to /wowcg/ people or crusty sock to /xivg/ people
>>587884476>>587884881take away stealth and give them back disguise instead
9th for elf butt
>>587884650It's both. In non-premades there is a mixture of retards, tryhards, and everything in between. You can certainly win more by having good gear and trying hard. You can even do various tricks and different strategies. Premades are much more tryhard although there is also a spectrum from casual-ish to tryhard premades. Not sure how small groups work in wowF, I only solo queued so far. But hopefully it's small premades vs small premades. Could be fun.
Was playing WoW Forever.Decided that a Dwarf Shaman wasn't for me.Stripped character, banked my Earth Totem, prepared to delete and recycle name for a rogue.Oh dear.Since i logged out with the Earth Totem in the bank, and not on the character inventory, the automated Server Mail System sent me TWO (2) Earth Totems in the mail.I cannot destroy them.I cannot delete the mail.I cannot delete the character and use the name.Created a ticket explaining the issue.It was marked as 'resolved' in 6 hours.Mails are still in the box.Created a new ticket.Marked as 'resolved' 7 hours later.Mails still in the box.So.I saved myself 15 bucks and am returning to Epoch.As a side note, blizz puppet heads confirmed on podcast that more 'Faction Neutral' races are being added REAL soon, as 'Pay'Dorei' blue elfs sold so well.Fuck this shit.I'm out.
God it feels so good to be a paladin
>>587885009aka kemono for /wpsg/ people
>>587884974No because outlaw sucks ass and isn’t enough of a change since it’s not even ranged and I generally hate adding literal Magic to rogue or an equivalent gameplay conceit
15th for elf vag with neatly trimmed purple bush
WMEF
>>587885049lol
>>587884875trukeNever understood the ogre psyop, literally ugly retarded disgnenic inbred race. Just like redneck americans…I’m starting to notice
Imagine shitting the bed this hard and immediately reverting. Still this sucks for carries.
>someone runs to escort npc right as i clear the last mobs to himguess i'm skipping that quest
>>587885147t. asian trash who panics if he can't play an elf
>>587885021
>>587885189>Still this sucks for carries.THATS THE POINT YOU STUPID FUCK
>>587884305>>587884987i think one of the few-cool things nu-wow did to rogues is kinda expanding their class fantasy and making them cool pirate-ass swashbucklers with pistols and grappling hooks.shame, its around the same time rogues became completely dogshit to play tho, theres no reason to play a rogue when DH or even monk exists and does the same thing way better
>going through contested zone>pass by many enemy faction that just ignore me>encounter one hunter who kills me and spends 30 minutes camping my corpse Why is it always hunters?
>>587885252No it's to stop botting retard
>>587885147>>587884875TRVTHNVKES No one wants to play Ogre in any serious capacity.
Does guild location affect layer? I think I found out why my layer is so fucking dead. The guild is set to AU for preferred location and that's only reason I can figure for why shit is a ghost town
>>587885049
>>587885189Another blizzard Wit's almost perfect now
zephras isle is legitimately way higher quality of questing and exploration than any base game zone
>>587885308they're the same picture
My main DPS in Finofano is Dragoon.What should I play in Forever?
>>587885009fuck this guy and the shitty cliquefest that is clover club
>>587885389hunter
>>587885389Paladin.
>>587885389Arms Warrior or Survival Hunter
>>587885389arms warrior
>>587885389Priest
>Invite friend to quest with me>Okay bro let me finish up this one quest>Its been like 30 minutes and hes still there>Would get mad if I started without him
>>587885314yeah your guild seems to matter, my friend (eu) is in a german guild even though his client is set to english and all he sees in general is germanguild even seems to even take priority over personal pref somehow
I'm still so glad I reserved my name; Legolas Sephiroth.
I decided to try out ret instead of prot pally holy shit its so much worse.
>>587885421>>587885454>>587885478Getting a lot of contrasting opinions.Please tell me why the class fits thank you love you worlowarcars
>>587885552Because you're gay
>>587885539yeah, but its like top 3 dps in the game, so everyone will be playing it
Should I queue some bgs at level 49 before I continue leveling? I feel like there's no point hitting 60 so early with nothing to do.
>>587885552Paladin is a heavy armor class that has cool fluff and simple mechanics and is also a retard magnet the way that DRG is.t. Paladin and DRG main.
>>587885389Feral Druid
>>587885552arms warrior with polearm but realistically there is no jumpy class like a dragoon
>>587885552Arms Warrior and Survival Hunter can both use polearms for damage, arms warrior is more straight forward fighting style, survival hunter has more of a precision fantasy playing with melee vs range (and traps)
>>587884512Should have gone chin length to start.
>>587885629If you like pvp then it's not a bad choice, you will probably want a bunch of honor.
>>587885732i love tanaris so fucking much
>>587885638>>587885695>>587885704ok thank you worlowarcars <3 i'll do Survival Hunter then probably.
Should I go feral druid or rogue (probably assassination but level as combat if it's better)
>>587885629enjoying pvp at 19/29/39/etc is part of the fun of leveling
Why are all WoW Forever players AI porn addicts? What's up with that?
>>587885847Just bee urself :)
>>587885638Yeah kind of, but Paladin has more support than Dragoon does.
>45 tank>45 healer>olympus hunteryeah this is gonna be an epic maradon run
>>587885920But I can't drive a forklift in WoW Forever
>>587885959Good luck lil gup
>>587885638Why is DRG a retard magnetI don't play it
>figured out the ghost layer trickso fvcking comfy
>>587884305The burning crusade, where they could literally>teleports behind you>nothing personal kid
>lvl 33 arcane mage>try pvp bg>everyone is at the bracket lvl cap>get 2 shotted by the enemy>die like 15 times in one matchSo why does pvp not equalize levels? I can imagine this being a problem in any match with random low levels not min maxed and cluelessly joining just to die a shit ton.
I havent done BGs yet. Can you queue up in cities?
>>587885959Make sure you get the key at least. You can do one side then go back into the other.
>>587886081Sovl
>>587886108Because twinks would throw an epic shitfit.
>>587885389Enhance shaman
epic mount still 1k?
PVPORRP-PVP?????????
As an alliance player I cant even kill 1 mob of a quest before getting ganked. I cannot level in dungeons because of what’s going on there.Meanwhile horde are snowballing and getting more powerful as alliance are stuck in a levelling nightmare. The realm logs are showing more horde and more higher level horde for EVERY realm except for homosexuals on RP. This is a very dangerous situation for the psychology of pvp realms in general. People jump ship asap if there is a consensus that they are too outnumbered to play the game.You have groups of horde around 5 levels above you just hanging out all day in the same area doing nothing, and their presence just takes over the entire map so your forced to grind mobs where they usually don’t go.I am a priest and free lunch to everything until 40 which makes it even worse. Playing hardcore is less stressful than this. Is it “normal” to accept the fact that the game is much much harder and frustrating just because you chose a faction that was supposed to be equal in pop from blizz supposed “Faction Locks”?What the hell is this? People aren’t gonna stick around and WoW-F is going to go down the same route as classic where PvP realms became horde PvE realms. We are seriously gonna do this AGAIN? after 20 years?
>>587886234They upped it to 2k
>>587886108Because equalizing levels is gay. Go level up then BG when you are at a strong level. The game is the game.
>>587886197I feel like it would be fine if it normalized levels but not gear.
>>587886247PVE
>>587886247rp
its great that blessings are an hour long. i can just get might or kings from some random fagadin and it'll last for most of the dungeon and i never even need to party with them (which is good because i discriminate heavily against them and refuse to invite them to content)
>>587886108The entire point of WoW PvP is to show off how good your gear is and how many wacky items you have to get an advantage with. WoW PvP is utter fucking dogshit when everyone is on an equal playing field, you'd be better off playing a real competitive multiplayer game instead.
Just remember, campers! Alliance PVE players are actually enjoying the game and get to queue for bgs if they want some PVP. You on the other hand DON'T get to enjoy PVE.
>>587886010>>587886010They (mostly used to) had a reputation for floortanking and killing themselves by backflip jumping off ledges.
Holy shit Darnassus is busy. I don't think I've ever seen that before.
>>587886247pvp
>>587886326>PVEnot an option you stupid FUCK
>>587886438it's ok i don't mind :)
>>587886489Wouldn't you know it, PVE horde is having just as much fun too, what a small world friend.
>>587886536That's how shards work
>>5878865366 people woaaah
>cerulean dyefuck whoever came up with this shit
>>587886543It is for me and that's more important.
>>587886489Yeah I want to see people leave alliance on pvp. I want it to get worse.
>>587886273I don't care about the need to level I already know how the system works, my issue is everyone else not doing it. I cannot do anything about a bunch of low bracket levels joining and practically feeding the enemy. If they used the equalization system from retail, where under a certain ilvl would equalized to a higher ilvl, at least that would stop 1 shots and absolute curb stomps.
>>587886489You're imagining things to be mad about, brotherpvp server has been fine
>>587886590Very true. It's nice to enjoy a game you're paying a monthly sub for. Game on, gamer!
World PvP is legit the biggest meme in Worlo history. Absolute pointless feature everyone complains about and yet retards can't stop themselves from feeling like they HAVE to engage with it.
>>587886493>killing themselves by backflip jumping off ledges.I do this on RDMI've dashed off ledges a couple times as PCT too
RP-PVP is where real niggas go to have fun
>this thread is filled with 90% PVE'ers I knew 4chan was boomer-coded but damnnobody here was born past year 2000
I'm eating fish stomachs for dinnner
>>587886543I may be stupid. Lets be friends.
>>587886702>nobody here was born past year 2000Feels nice desu.
>>587883667They changed the dungeon XP again>Greys no longer award XP to anyone in the party if any member is 12 levels higher than the mob
>>587886680It's a great idea but for some odd reason one side of the war doesn't engage with it.
>>587886702wow is 22 years old
>>587886702Actually PvP is boomercoded because Boomers are narcissists who only gain satisfaction by ruining other, weaker people's experience, just like they fucked the economy.
>>587886702That’s a non-sequitur.
>>587886775why not just use the recommended level for the dungeon holy fuck
>>587886247rp-pvp has soul
>>587883667>>NA Guilds><FUN HAVERS> PvE Alliance><Mulgore Dairy Farmers> PvE Horde><You Have To Go Back> PvP Horde><fell for it award> PvP Alliance><Clover Club> RP-PvP Alliance><Daybreak Company> RP-PvE Alliance><Gnome Disposal Unit> RP-PvE Hordewhy no RP-PVP Horde guild?
>>587886738ngl she looks pretty
>>587886702Worlo (forlo) is as old as the youngest Zoomies.
>>587886702>nobody here was born past year 2000If there is a better version of the internet to graduate to after 4chan let me know or just accept it like us, you are here forever.
>>587886701maybe on planet fucking gaylord
>>587886842You're not high level enough to know why, go back to leveling
>>587885847I'd make a point for rogues, but we need druids tooDruid is more beer forklift afk friendly I think
>>587886702I'm on pvp althougheverbeit
is warrior bad in pvp? seems like every consensus online says "yeah."
>>587886914Truth nuclear bomb. The Internet i grew up with is dead and I'm just sifting through the ashes for like-minded people.
>>587886702All the new players are all just as old as these fucks too
>>587886797>tfw I still remember the day when I went to buy WoW 22 years ago
>>587887003Warrior isn't bad in PvP, it's just heavily skill and gear reliant.
>>587887003Do you have endgame gear?
>>587887049oh that makes sense actually
bow or gun?
>>587887106Crossbow.
>>587887080nope!! i do not! but i think i understand now!
>>587886885Trolls are pretty.>>587887106Guns are super fucking loud and annoy me in game.
druid tank got upset that i needed rockpunder even though i was healing with a strength mace already. sucks to suck, i gotta level up somehow
i rerolled and teh starting zone is a ghost town, is it actually over?
Blizzard needs to balance the amount of players with layers (but where does the extra horde go then?) or they need to change something to even the playfield.
>>587887138post her getting dicked down or fuck off
Sixty years of fucking fanart and these brownoids still feel the need to spam aislop
>>587884275Warhammer is for faggot chud losers, sorry.
a prot pally in full cloth just called me retail trashthey had the least hp in the party
>You don't understand World PvP is an integral part of World of Warcraft you literally can't play without it.Type of 'kino' that World PvP causes>HEH, I LE EPIC OWNED THOSE LOW LEVEL NOOBS TRYING TO DO QUESTS! MY DICK IS SO HUGEand>NOOOO I GOT GANKED WHAT THE FUCK FUCK THIS GAME I HATE IT I DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH GANKERS!!!!M E M E F E A T U R E
>>587885494I'm English/NA-East but my guild is set to AU and asking around folks in my layer it seems they're also AU. No wonder it's dead on my end. Now I kinda want to leave my guild but they're alright blokes
Playing pvp as anything but pally or hunter is just retarded honestly
>>587887152Thankfully tanks are easy to replace as long as you have or are a healer. They're trying to prop themselves as a rare resource but even they'll kiss the ring of the healer cabal.
giving 10 minute PvE mode and like 5% speed boost after being ganked could help a lot to improve the experience imo
>>587887286>Playing pvp [...] is just retarded honestlycorrect
>>587887215So perfect for worlo fans?
i play pve because i just don't like the pvp gameplay of this gameunfortunately, i don't like the pve gameplay either
>>587887238I say both of these often.
>>587887313The fucking state of red*it PvP...
>>587887042My son will now play Worlo as I did and my father before me
I'm playing a night elf priest in PvP realm :3 Did I make a mistake? I have no friends and its my first time
>>587887313This would cause Green Tyrones to explode in a roid rage.
what is their problem?
>>587887042time is relative
So funny to read how the Horde having gained a random advantage in numbers and winning only because outnumbering the Alliance and bragging about it as if it’s their personal merit and a sign of their personal great skill and masteryImagine a football match where one team by random chance has 100 players while the other has only 10. And then, once the game is over the 100-player team declares “Well, our opponents clearly have a skill issue, they just should have played better.”
>>587887238Skill issue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka0W4J2ZAHU
>>587887313You made your choice Anon, we warned you. You're in the cage with all the nastiest autists imaginable and there's no way out but to start over or quit.>>587887238Nobody ever listens, every time they think they're gonna be the one hunting, NEVER the one hunted.
>>587887364No, we're straight chud chads
I like PvP because it makes me say the nigger word whenever I get killed and the tranny word whenever I kill someone.
The threads have been marginally better without the /vt/ranny ragebaiter and I think there's a connection there.
>>587887138>>587887185HOW TF do i get a troll gf?
>>587887351yea fair
>>587886273What? Are you the same poster? Or some other faggot?
>>587887604Like not a lot better but better you know?
>>587887606Be a human
>Waddle all the way to get the staves skill because for my warlock because I thought I could cast magic out of it like a wand>Only after buying it I realize it's a melee skillI'm such a dumbass holy SHIT
>Horde PvP basically soft confirmed to be locked for the rest of the year, possibly well into 2027
Wtf the HDR addon makes the game so much better... if the game has HDR output why don't they have settings built in to the game settings
>>587887525Skill issue seems the logical result because "alliance leave pvp servers" has been common throughout the games history. If it were random surely it wouldn't always be alliance quitting.
The spellpower nerf is possibly the dumbest thing of Forever. It makes no sense at all.>ostensibly done so that casters feel better about getting spell power gear, despite there being hardly any spell power gear in dungeons and even less from quests>don't benefit from spell power anyway because everyone is using low spell ranks which have a nerfed coefficient, because the cost of training higher ranks is too high because everyone is saving for a mount
>>587886702if you want to meet mentally ill faggy zoomers go play ff14 the game is littered with them. I even had a casual fwb with one for awhile until I got bored.
>>587884305Because not everyone wants to play some retarded DnD roleplay of some random fag. I want powerful agile fighter with cool shit that isn't unga bunga warrior. Meanwhile, you are just describing some behavioral shit, which you can still do by griefing wpvp and ninja looting.
wow noob here. is there any good places for external group finding? im trying to finish the embrace of the viper set and feel like randoms is not the way to go
engineering and mining should be mutually exclusive
>>587887489>nekragehttps://streamable.com/ks9nwhactual tool and a retard, props to him for blacklisting alex from kirtonos though
I'm only level 28
>>587887697Considering alliance are still leaving despite this it's probably never opening.
>>587885147The Ogre psyop is engineered by the High Elf cult. It's always a HEfag that suggests Ogres should replace Blood Elves and they rejoin the Alliance as High Elves, or that Ogres are added to the Horde along side Alliance High Elves.
>>587887840I just hit 29, couldn't be me.
>>587887720Personally, I’ve never been drawn to PvP realms because of the bully mentality there: on PvP realms players aren’t looking for a fight, they’re looking for someone who can’t fight back. And I find it a boring and pointless obstacle for a gameplay. Battlegrounds and arenas that’s where real pvp is.
>>587887681i am luckily, a human male
>>587887840HAHA! I'm 28 now too. you will lose like you were always destined to.
>>587887695you'd still buy it anyway since staves are great stat sticks
not trying to start drama or harass any specific spec(i like all specs and play what i want)but arent hybrid dps like ret, enh and feral for example topping the meters or something while casters are struggling? dont get me wrong i dont have any agenda behind my posts but its kinda weird
>>587887840Filthy sweatlord, I only hit 27 recently.
>NA PVP>44:56hahahahaha yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiightmore like ZERO DOLLARS FROM MY WALLET TO ZERO DOLLARS RECEIVED BY BLIZZARD
>>587886871Be the change you want to be anon. Make one and I'll join it
>>587887945peak world pvp mogs every other player experience and is worth getting ganked and corpse camped every once in a while
As a PvEchad, if I want to PvE I can literally just do Battlegrounds and get my fix.YOU, however, PvPchud, DON'T get to enjoy PvE because you're stuck in a server with a bunch of autistic bullies.<3
>>587888004It's almost like casters become much bigger powerhouses at level 60 after getting gear. Same goes for fucking warriors.
>>587887042same, even remember my big brother having "the talk" with me at level 43 about getting my own account (GM moved my toon instantly btw)
>>587888062>if I want to PvE I can literally just do Battlegrounds and get my fix.pvetards everyone
>>587883753i'm interested. it looks like <fell for it award> doesn't have anyone online
>>587888062>YOU, however, PvPchud, DON'T get to enjoy PvE because you're stuck in a server with a bunch of autistic bullies.I play horde though, alliance never try anything.
I'm only level 17.
>>587888062but on both 2019 classic and anni all the good pve guilds were on pvp servers
>>587887697horde pvp is perma locked chief, alliance pop is falling on pvp.
>>587887985Rival sama?
>>587888136I meant if I want to PvP, minor major typo
>>587888004Will have to see what stuff is like at max level. If ret, enh, and feral are topping the charts at 60 then fatgrend is a FAT liar. Then people can finally put WoW down or return to anni/era until blizzard pulls the plug.
>>587888136bro made a typo and i think everyone understood what they were saying. are you black or something that you didn't understand? are you not able to infer meaning and intent from someone's text? that's a very being black kind of thing, bro.
>>58788821422 here fren :))
>only level 34im so fucking far behind the pack i might as well wait for next fresh
>Spoken addon>Varimathras just sounds like a normal Forsaken NPC instead of his unique voice
>>587883667So I relented and made a PVE Skyborne Mage after debating faction roll for a while. I spent time messing with hotkeys and settings per some online video guides and am looking for a UI addon annd some other addons.One thing I noticed was, even the very beginnning Skyborne area, NA PVE clearly has tons of people.I'm curious... How different it would look on NA-PVP. Alliance PVP players, if you're here... How bad is it really? REALLY? I might temporarily roll a Skyborne Mage on alliance now and see...****I love the thrill of PVP, how once you reach 15 and are really out in the world, every shadow on the horizon gives you pause...p.s. I couldn't find any good skyborne art.....
>>587885638
>>587888086>>587888258well we will see eventually all of these charts are ai hallucinated slop anyways
>>587888274white people spell check their posts, ranjeed
>>587888225the one and only
>>587888224>blizzard has to actively rig it for alliance >they're still getting dunked on and quitting Makes you think.
>>587883753>alliance NA pvpIs there a greater hell?
>>587887989i am once again asking you to post her sweaty butthole
>>587888349>spellchecking an acronym>spellchecking to correct correctly-spelled by incorrect-placed wordsYep you are black confirmed. I bet you play a green tyrone too.
>>587888318Spoken started annoying me, turned it off
They want pvp to die so they can merge everybody to pve and just add a war mode toggle. there is unironically no other reason why they would restrict players so severely in such an unsustainable way.
>nightslayer cucks spamming their pvetard macro in bg's>as if it was some rite of passage to get assfucked daily by the majority faction>pvpcucks are so buckbroken in forever that they don't even bother spamming that macro again
can someone tell me why is world chat sometimes up and sometimes down?
>>587888361rig it against alliance you mean? because they left the horde unlocked for 5 straight days even though they had already reached well over 60%.They claimed they would maintain balanced factions and proceeded to not do that for no apparent reason other than horde ballsucking, same as it ever was with blizzard.
>>587888358Noooooooo
>>587888318The idea is fine but actually voices for the individual npcs would be better
>>587888304As someone who didn't play a single classic release or pserver , I don't get this FRESH meme.I am really enjoying the game and I am completing every quest available and every dungeon. However, I see close to no sign that I will wait to level from scratch, unless good amount of years pass. You guys got seriously brain hacked by skinner-box, threadmill shit
>>587888396asheron's call darktide makes alliance pvp look like a cakewalk
>>587887292>everyone on the forums bleating that you can heal in dps spec all the way to 50>but they still won't do it>healer shortage
>>587885049Creepy pasta?
boys we are getting a new alex dungeon, will be tanking tank bfd and the group is>alex - prot warrior>warlock>warlock>mage>priest
I hated the LFG window at first but holy fuck is it amazing. I just list myself and I randomly get an invite no whispering bullshit or constantly signing up to different groups
Personally, I saw this coming from a mile away after experiencing PvP megaservers like Spineshatter in Anniversary. Which is exactly why I rolled PvE this time around, and from what I hear that was among the best decisions I could have made.PvP and modern day megarealms just don’t go well together unless your only motive for logging into the game at all is to gank people in the open world. Otherwise, stay away.
>pet can't hold threat with just autos after getting a bow that can proc bonus damage
>>587888707hi welcome to your first time playing wow. here is your complimentary gift basket containing 1 frog, 1 telabim banana, and a bottle of ice cold milk.
>>587888771There's no hyper realistic blood.
>>587888327>lust provoking imagewew.
>>587888476>war mode toggleif only there was some way to flag yourself for pvp in a normal realm... some kind of command like...>/pvpthat would be great
>>587888747specs are not the reason why there are few healers
>>587888747Idk about that cause my shitty ret heals keep ooming me after one fight
>>587888809Is it the singing frog?
alex made his warrior last night and he is 24 already, he will overtake me in levels but thats fine since hes a 2004 vet
>>587888882yes but he only sings one note and it goes something like"AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!"
>>587888214>>587887840gramps is that you?
>>587887749Their genius idea to make gear drops for casters feel more exciting has just led to me passing up on what would have otherwise been a big upgrade because it doesn't have as much spell power as what I already have. It's actually made caster gear drops less exciting.
>>587888880>cast blessing of wisdom>never be oom again
they should let alliance transfer off pvp servers for free i think that’ll help those who dislike the ganks and improve the experience overall for them
>>587888806Where is your BiS pet Shal'ma with 1.3 attack speed? Skill issue. You should have the best rare spawn hunter pet at all times
the crafted tailoring gear all requires cerulean dye, something only made by alchemists, which is like and additional 1.5-2g per craft alonethe blacksmithing and leatherworking gear all use the super-cheap skinning and mining stuff they can get themselves so crafting their stuff is practically freehow is this in any way fair?!
>>587886702I'm on both, pvp in this version is complete shitJust like in SOD they gave zero fuck about balance
>>587889015blizzshit pathologically loves to punish casters and coddle melee. this has been worlo warkaka since the beginning of time.
>>587888989You serious? Lol. I am collecting some mana per second gear first before I start healing.
>>587888772is this the based strat? only invite the cloth classes and not all the meme shit lord classes?
>>587889015nigger you can sell bags
>>587887480No, probably the best healer since you have so many tools. Make sure you get a wand and keep it upgraded, and put your first 2 talent points into wand spec.
Why shouldn't I do Herbs + Tailor + Enchant on my mage?
>>587888460I still like it because it's nice to be able to have the quest text read out to me while I go on my way, especially in situations where there are other players who won't wait for you like in dungeons.>>587888674The most baffling one is Thrall being totally wrong despite one of the orc voices sounding exactly like him.
>>587889104that's ridiculous
is reserving items allowed?
>>587889183Because you can only have 2 professions sperglord
Dammit I am almost overlevelled for WC and I still haven't gone through it to tank it.At least I guess it's a vanilla dungeon (that I also happen to hate) so I don't have to worry as much about doing it a couple of times to make sure I learn it properly.
>>587889225if you have to ask the answer is "you dont need to know"
>>587889118me and the 10,000 other tailors in my region you disingenuous NIGGER
>undead paladin charger has it's own running animationI can't help but think that wow forever is literally just to fill some fantasy of aggrends where paladins are top dog and he has some fascination with undead.
Hello. I hate hunters.
>>587889346tbui and I'm also a hunter.
>>587888214i’m 34 and feel behind
>>587888707The NEW SERVER RUSH and fresh launch hype and general experience/atmosphere of a fresh reset fresh server fresh journey fresh world is the best in the first two months (3 max).It's alright if you're a little late too like it's fine to start now don't believe the hardcore doomers/FUD types.There's just nothing like a fresh server.Before Blizzard fuks everything up and adds fucking Jack Black Pandas or something equally as retarded.
>>587889380I'm 50 and feel behind. Why is this?
>>587888476At some point you have to ask yourself if keeping a pvp server around is worth it. If the only way pvp can survive is through extremely heavy handed population management that tells you that it simply does not work.There isn't a compelling case for traditional pvp rulesets in the first place. Pvp proponents can never provide an explanation why they can't just stay pvp flagged 24/7 on a pve server which is effectively the same EXCEPT for the fact that you can't gank unsuspecting or helpless players that way. Nobody is fooled here, pvp server apologists like pvp because they like acting like assholes ganking other people. There is, quite literally, ZERO justification for wanting a pvp server aside from that.
>do Messenger to Stormwind>someone dropped a fucking buff againevery single time
>>587889432because people your age have children, a wife, a house, and here you are blowing your time on short term happiness
Moo...
>>587889449>the only way pvp can survive is through extremely heavy handed population managementthat's not true
>>587889610
Mobs in BRD have fire resistance right? I've been leveling as pure arcane mage, but I feel like respecting into arcane + fire to spice things up, but I'm about to start running BRD so don't it it would make much sense to do yet.
p. sure I just saw that one fem human player who wears nothing but her tabard who posts here run past my character on RP PVE stormwind.lol.
I wish 4chan rangebanned India.
Blast havers status?
What’s the point of doing blackedsmithing when all of its shit is BoE?
Is Horde RPPvP still locked?
>>587888476this would be fine actually. turtle wow did it and nobody complained. ascension did this with high-risk, and it was well liked. why didn't forever just ship with a toggleable pvp with a minor incentive like 5% bonus xp and rep, or something?
>clear uldaman>ask 44 mage for a portal to IF after>he hasn't trained it>say okay, can you do SW instead>didn't train that eitherare mages retarded?
>>587889743Yes, and it always will be at this point.
Maybe only allow PvP to max lvl characters or if you’re the same level as the other players
>>587889743Cock? LockedHorde? LockedLet's ride.
>>587889631meaningless image
>notice price of crates and writs just fucking skyrocketed for some reason>some redditor told everyone how to get cheap rep with durotar logistics for updoots, not realizing that it's only cheap because the normie masses didn't fucking know about itit's so over
I looted a heckin mirage mirrorino. I can’t help it, that’s kinda cool. I know it’s not, it’s not cool. There’s definitely way cooler trinkets, I think I’ve seen one, I can’t remember any cooler trinkets than that but there is. There’s definitely nothing to be happy about. I probably won’t even use it that much, maybe just sometimes during pvp, maybe during a quest too. I dunno.
>>587889743i made one a few days ago idk
>>587889739blacksmithing is a massive money sink, most expensive profession to level with very little reward
>>587889848>the normie masses didn't fucking know about itThis can't be real?
>>587889743all pvp rulesets horde will remain locked indefinitely. no new alliance players are joining and many are quitting.at this point the only way horde pvp comes unlocked is when blizzard inevitably does away with the faction lock system after the backlash from horde players on the forums and reddit becomes impossible to ignore any longer.
>>587889771As hunter I have not trained half of my abilities.
>>587889739>>587889905They added some nice new bop items for Blackedsmithing with the Jew token faction.
>be caster>hunter engage me>summon 12 differents pets on my face, triggering 100 pushbacks attacks every second as I try to cast a single spell that will hopefully inflict 5% of his hp bar>die in 5sI no longer think pvp has a future
>>587889706My fem nelfie eats this.
>>587889937Based.Is it a melee ability? I have not trained it.I'm a ranged class.
alex has been live for 12 hours. surely he must like the game.
>>587889979we know ranjeet
>>587889941oh boy, you get to spend even more money filling bullshit and buying writs to get shitty crafted items which will be replaced immediately when the raid drops in a couple weeks.
>>587889975I've complained about it in a few tthreads that Hunters are unstoppable past a certain point in bgs. If you're a caster you're getting raped by a SMASHED AND SLAMMED TOADSTYLE roid rage pet and like 5 birds at the same time.Its really not fucking fun.
>>587889931So PvP ruleset becomes a Horde PvE realm ok genius
>>587890015Mele and utility I won't use until 60. Though if I was a mage I'd at least learn Stormwind lol
>Player buffs me as I walk past>Pop Bloodrage and press Battle ShoutYou're welcome :)
>>587890156>UtilityWhat is this word? What does it mean?t. Huntard
>>587889931literally just give me the og wintergrasp buffs so i'm on even footing when the 4 stack jumps meits fucking horseshit and i don't understand why the shitters who want to group up with their faggot buttbuddies want to quest in a 4 stackif you do this you are literally a subhuman buckbroken BITCH MADE melanin enriched nigger and you should kill yoursefl
>>587890179>only buffs party membersyou were mocking him
>last couple of weeks of beta leading up to launch>a couple of retards spamming the thread about only the best players and cool people roll on pvp>seething at everyone saying they don't want to get ganked and will be rolling PvE>fast forward to now>PvPers crying nonstop about faction imbalance and how their servers are struggling and dying already>somehow perplexed and amazed that PvE server is thriving and that so many people here are on PvEI mean we fucking told you outright what would happen, what the hell did you expect?
alex's bfd run might be interesting, his priest is retarded and alex is already fuming at him and they havent even entered the dungeon
>>587890179i moo at them
>getting might of stormwind about every ten minutes now
>>587888747It's because healing has too many negative connotations, and the actual gameplay is boring whack-a-mole.
>>587890273its really funny lol like what did they expect?
>>587890179Average warrior brain.
>>587890273the people that complain online aren't playing the game anyway. it's an imagined problem.
>>587884968>>587884968>>587884968Anyone???
>>587889848he got to revered already so fuck everyone else.
>>587890341Do they...?
>>587889917>before reddit post>people mindlessly listing the "useless" crates at 50-60 copper>after reddit post>crates now 6 silver minimumThe price of getting to Honored with DL went from 80 silver to 70 gold overnight
>>587890148It's on its way to that already, alliance population is dropping despite a going on 2 week lockout of horde character creation.pvp servers don't work, it's literally that simple. They never will work.
why did i need another deadmines quest?
>>587890273The people complaining are horde niggers that can't play with their MTF discord group. Oh on the world will have less undead paladins!
>>587890310Most of those people used restedxp so you should right click the buff. Thats basically botting.
dude fucking nerds dropping this might of stormwind buff what the fuckkkkk fucking nolifers
So, why is paladin, the class with most sustain in the game and a class that was pure fucking dogshit back in the day is allowed to be fucking top dps now???
>>587890380skim through the talents and pick whichever spec you think sounds more fun. it literally doesn't matter.
>>587889848>>587890432I hate redditors so much its fucking unreal.
>>587890475they work with actual serversniggers are so scared of getting ganked they HAVE to roll horde instead of playingclassic players are the most whiny faggot niggers imaginableno skillno strategy just numbersfuck 'emhope half your friendlists can't play on your rulesetfuck classic playersfuck shitterskill yourselves
>>587890475Because it has a tendency to end up at 99% one faction. It has done everytime. And ultimately your at that point asking players to lose a usable AH, guild and raid for the sake of exclusively Wpvp.And currently the balance is so far in the ground that its impossible to sustain
>>587890634>they work with actual serverssee>>587889631
It seems warrior tanks it's still the worst tank....
>>587890680
>>587890680Proofs?
>>587890680What about dudu
>>587890676i played bene from naxx to wrathit was fine when the realm actually had a large alliance standing in the first placethey put in the wrong values and now its going to be perpetually fucked unless they implement a faction que after the factlol
>>587890596>le just have fun!! this has to be one of the most useless replies i've ever seen, why even bother replying you retarded fucking imbecile, you will be harassed
Doesn't inspire much confidence in the devs when they walk back so fast on their own changes/adjustments to the game...
WOW FOREVERIT SUCKED BACK THEN AND IT SUCKS FOREVER
it's miserable when you don't have any friends and you're just leveling and you cross paths with lvl 33 allies while you're 24
>>587890564main dev main paladinthank for the sub
>>587890273I have been unironically depressed and pissed off at myself for days because I got memed into playing pvp and now I'm over a week behind the pack. people dropping rend buffs every 2 fucking minutes and I'm in redridge. It's so demoralizing I almost want to give up and wait for next fresh.
>>587890834sounds like you aren't having fun.Why are you still playing?
>>587890898>Replied to the /vt/ranny ragebaiter again award
>>587890834who the fuck cares which spec is better? you are shit at the game, it's not like you could make use of it anyway. fun is the only value within your reach.
>>587890834not sure why you deflect and immediately make this about me? original question was guy asking about disc and holy priests and you bothered replying to him with useless information, like you imbeciles need and will be harassed
is it true poyo is free use?
>>587890976And you replied to me. Good job.
>>587890475>pvp servers don't work, it's literally that simple. They never will work.Fact. PvP servers literally do not work when layering exists. The reason PvP servers worked in the past was cause servers were just servers, what you saw was what you got and also because back then people were different, the toxic chud piece who wants to only exist to bother other people mentality was much more rare back then, now it is very common. So ever since 2019 classic with layering and toxic troll types being a dime a dozen PvP servers have literally never worked, they've all died and failed in one way or another.Retail devs deleted PvP servers ages ago and put in warmode as an optional PvP server and guess what? Literally nobody actually uses it. Ever. The only thing it is used for is for people to form raid groups to fly to collect war crates for free PvP currency WITHOUT having to do PvP.World PvP just does not work in the modern day. It's just a proven fact.
ill share a secret with you vgmy skyshaper girl has a massive futa
>>587891053A massive futa what?
>>587890897Literally droves of people are still waiting in line to create more horde on PvP it’s not going to get better just go pve you will have bgs
>>587884086god this comic art was so abysmally bad
What if they just made all servers pvp and just had better systems for safe zones or faction reinforcement call ins and shit? Maybe Guild could control territories in a zone and provide protection even?
>>587891002plenty of specs play differently and perform differently, he just wanted to see what people think and get some tips maybe i think. there is literally no need to harass people asking questions like that, im literally sick of your dad gamer shit
Environmental storytelling at it's finest.
>>587891053or windshaper. whatever that blue bitch is called
>>587889307>lots of 2 handed quest rewards that are conspicuously maces starting from low levels>scarlet set has holy damage on it>mount training for paladins is still nothing>overtuned to the point where even hunters, the games top dps, can sometimes be out dps'd by a ret paladin>prot is obscenely strong (to be fair so are other tanks but still)>prot gets a perma 15% damage reduction, without a dps penalty that warriors get in d-stance (the latter of which requires talent points to get 0% penalty)>new tier set easily has the most effort put into itit's a love letter to the class at worse and blatant favoritism at best, both of which are unacceptable
Ruins the visual identity of the zone.
>>587891124They'd give up on the comics at that point, ended that shit out shame due to Med'an.
>>587891123I already went pve but like I said it's so demoralizing to lose over a week of progress that I want to give up.
>>587891156next time ask a different question. don't use the word 'good'
>>587891125Switch the PvE servers to PvP for April fools.
why are people already bored?
>>587891252Did anything come of this lil nigga or does Blizz just sidestep anything and everything related to him?
>>587890475>>587891034go back to r/ratmangold faggots
>>587891317because their free trial ended and they can't afford to sub
Why are there many dislikes on WoW forever videos?
>>587891327Don't you have a quest NPC to gank in redridge or something you faggot?
>>587890898this post was meant for you: >>587891007>>587891262im pretty sure that i didnt ask any questions though? just stop deflecting already, like why do you provide new players or anyone asking for any info with useless information?
>>587891318iirc they soft retconned him out of existence by never acknowledging him except for a handful of joke references at his expense.
>>587891390look trannyi'm playing alliancei don't have time for that go drop a 100 dollar bomb on your edaddy and neck yourself after thatthanks
>Finally install TRP to maybe fuck around with it a lil>Go to stormwind to see how people have set theirs up>95% of people who have it are human or a flavor of elf with like no gnomes at all and a smattering of DwarvesAlso seen at least 2 profiles outright say they're looking for futas.
>>587891256You’ll be fine cheer up
>>587891317Because GTA6 isn't out yet, the shit posting will die way down once it is.
tell me I'm not crazy but I swear 1 in every 10 of my fishing casts are completely and utterly silent
im having a heckin blasterino flagging up on my pve server. its fun watching a greenskin do a double take when it notices im flagged and stands there for a good 5 seconds sizing me up before making a move or walking awayrarely have i been dogpiled or camped (i hardly lose fights anyway since im a ret paladin) and like the 2 times it's happened i've just rez'd up in a bush and retreated to a safe spot to wait out the flag timer
>>587891419Yeah really I suppose that's all you can really do with him. Could you imagine a WoW where this Literal E. Who was an important character?
>>587891248The amount of two handers they've put in the game for paladins is insane. Like every dungeon quest now rewards a two hander with strength and int or spell damage on it. It's actually absurd how many there are. Leveling as tank it's pissing me off cause where the fuck are all the one handers? My two hander in my bags is better than my main weapon just cause every fucking dungeon quest is keeping my two hander ahead of the curve.
are Alliance scum ever honorable in PVP?
>>587883962I think I saw you two earlier. Cute cows.
>>587891252He's coming back for Forever along with Cho'gall, who will be the Ogre racial leader, trust the plan
>>587891583this is why you never let ret paladin mains get a foothold into leadershipfucking morons
>>587891601lmao says the little zer--zugling that spawns in pairs of two because they're too DOGSHIT to even level alone
>>587891583It’s actually insane
>>587891462The funny thing is i hate ratboy and you sound more like a ratboy fan. You sound like every olympus faggot who types in trade chat.
>>587891583As a tank chudadin it is a little annoying. Just want to be a sword and board nigga but the world is set up to make me a retardin.
>>587891161Fuck that cave and hyperlayerspawnbullshit
>>587891583Just opened a chest as I was reading this post and had a hearty kek
ill be frank with youim not having fun and i dont wanna do the stupid gear grind at 60 againwhy am i even playing this game
>mystmane>lvl 40today was a good day, how are you bros feelan?
>>587891637The horde-friendly ogres in riverglades are the ones that broke away from the twilight hammer cult.
>>587891697i have been alone this whole time
>>587891670Why is she so fuckin bogged?
I'm level 30 because I'm waiting for my friends to log back inI cope by saying I'm taking it easy and enjoying my slow burn wow experience but I'm actually vibrating in my chair and melting as others surpass me
>>587891781Arcane Surgery
>>587891776and you always will be
>>587887138fact check: truefresh classic screenshot because i haven't taken any of my forever troll
>>587890680Oh I don't know, I guess I think about killing myself pretty frequently. And why not? What's so great about living?You know when I'm happy? For about 5 seconds in the morning when I first wake up, before I remember who I am and what my life is all about. Anxiety, disappointment, diarrhea more often than not. I don't know if there's an afterlife, but who cares!? Nothingness couldn't be worse than this meaningless march through my empty days.
>>587891793Just level an alt you XIVtard. I'm seeing too many people go 'uuuuu my friends haven't logged in for a few days so I can't play uuuuuu' all you have to do is make an alt lil nigga the game encourages you to do so with the cheevo system.
>>587891739You tell me
I only gank people higher level than me
>shrouds first wow forever stream>he was already level 59wtff
>>587891547Flagged up while questing for a bit in STV and had a similar experience
>>587891931noooo
>>587891940paid for a boost 100%
>>587891939No you dont lol
>>587884432>they do it for free
bros... is BFD the hardest dungeon in any video game right now....
alex wipe in bfdhes raging at the locks for not soulstoning
>>587890341I don't think I've ever seen my slop reposted so frequently that it is hereNeat
At what point did you realize the dev team doesn't play the game?
>>587891940He is exactly the type of person who would pay for some chinamen to level his toon.
>>587892052That award goes to Uldaman when your tank is vastly underleveled for the final boss.
MUH
>>587891720what a cute parrot!heres a chipnow get lost nigger
>>587892034yeah I do
>>587892052>shit drop rate for the quests>aoe on several bosses>mix of casters and melee>easy to get overwhelmed if you're not paying attentionits the ornstein and smough of WoW
>>587884476They should play like survival hunters - one of the specs, anyways.
>>587892081When I saw the dungeon xp shit
I passed by Badlands for my Rage of Storm quest and it was choke full of alliance on EU PvEHow bad is the area for horde to quest in before moving into riverglades next to it
>>587891939I tried that last night on a BM hunter 5 levels over me and he just melee AAed me while his pets gargled my eyes in their mouths
>>587884881>>587884476>>587892154Rogues and hunters should be combined into one class. Give it one pure ranged dps spec, one beast master spec which has exclusive access to pets, and one stealth melee spec.
>>587892138Nah bud you dont lol
>lock feared a murloc into other murlocs>pulls the whole room>they wipe>warlock dc's >priest leavesHAHAHAHAHAH
>>587892265sounds fucking awful sorry
WoW bros... how can we not do BFD? We had a year to practice in SoTD??
>>587892070
>>587892306>fearing in dungeonsthey are trolling him kek
>want to play the game>horde pvp is locked outwelp guess fuck me then right?
>level 37 with 45gim not gonna get the mount on time....
>>587892306That’s just sad
>>587892306blud couldnt even live thru that?its fucking over
>>587892306
has there been an alex dungeon that didnt have at least a single meltdown?
>>587892306Should have rolled a paladin tank.
>>587892209yeah BM hunter is the most unskilled shit in the game>>587892294just did it again
>tfw leveling a weapon skill while questingwhy did i decide to torture myself
>>587892209>I tried that last night on a BM hunter 5 levels over me...
>>587892394You could...Um....I'm trying to think of hoooooooooooow to put this?Give me a moment, please.You could uh....Oh!You could um....Its kind of hard for me to type for some reason...But have you tried...Play...ing...Alliance?
>>587892306>AIIIEEEE LEVEL 25 MURLOC SAMA
>>587892315sounds p good to me thoughever.another big problem with rogues is stealth is too good which paradoxically makes the class bad. Because stealth is so good they are forced to make rogues extremely squishy and useless outside stealth because otherwise they would be crazy busted. The net result of that is if you get caught out of stealth you are a free kill but if you open successfully you have a hugely disproportionate advantage.Stealth makes rogues too all or nothing. If stealth was not an indefinite duration or had some other kind of limitation you could afford to make rogues tankier and more useful outside of stealth, making the class more consistent.
HAHAHAHAHA ROGUE LEFT ALEX ALMOST SMASHED HIS KEYBOARD HEHEHEHEHEHE
>>587891583Those are for shamans too tho
>>587892407You will be fine if you have a gathering. I was on 55g at level 38 and made it.
>not even 4 hours on zephras isle and im level 10i feel like this is a little fast, no? im even stopping to go slow and listen to spoken dialogue
I need one of these niggas to drop a lieutenant insignia
>>587892394just dont be brown
>>587892657I got to 10 in half that time in elwynn.
>>587884132Goblins are a never ever because1. nobody fucking played them even on turtle2. they would have to make an entire new starting zone for them which is a nono because 1.
Post yfw you cleared the dungeons Alex "kited to death by a level 17 hunter" xensual is wiping to without a single death
>>587892549>HAHA, A JUNIOR 1,000 YEARS BELOW ME THOUGHT HE COULD FIGHT ME?>PROSTATE YOURSELF BEFORE ME AND BOW FIVE HUNDRED TIMES BEFORE I PULL YOU>BY>THE>ROOTS
>>587892209Might have been me :)
>>587891924
>>587892657That seems extremely slow. You can get any of the other starter zones done in less than 2 hours if you know the quests.
bros are dungeons even worth doing? or just buy the rested guide???
>>587891317they forgot to put + in this classic+
>>587892619That looks real
warlock just said>"if we get into a big fight again try to use some cc"this literally enraged alex lol
>>587892812Install TRP, there's tons of + out there.
>>587892807... buy?you have to buy it?
>>587892560Replace stealth with disguise
>>587892807Everyone here uses RestedXP I have an affiliate link if you want really helps me out a lot
>>587892735I dont care about turdle thirdies
>>587892748well i got the 1% mount last season so excuse me if i don't feel too accomplished by clearing a leveling dungeon with no deaths
>It droppedTime for the +7 scope oh baby
>>587892807Only if you have all of the quests. Which you WILL need to look up out of game. You rike the game design? :)
>guys our bad no dungeon xp was actually a bug! its fixed now tho :)Fuck off with your lying asses Blizzard holy shit. Why do they always try to police how people want to play the game?
Now that the dust settled... did I dodged a bullet by not rolling pvp or rp-pvp? Sounds like a shitshow...
im going afk for like 10 mins i hope the bfd run doesnt implode while im gone
If you appear offline on battle.net and log in, will people on your friendslist be notified if you start playing?
>>587892956They dont actually play the game
I'm gonna take a 20 minute break and walk down to the bodeaga for a snack. You guys want anything while I'm out?
>>587892807>a guide>for levelling in world of warcraftThis thing had to be made for 3rd worlders only right, like there's no other demographic who would have so much trouble reading, right?
>>587893015Stop hiding from your friends nigger
>>587892993you dodged a fucking artillery shell chief. pvp is spiraling already, very good odds they pull the warmode ripcord sooner than later.
>>587892993See if you feel this way a month after hitting 60
>>587893015Yes. It blares a really loud noise, flashes your friend's screen, and a message saying FRIENDNAMEHERE IS PALYING WOW WHILE TRYING TO BE INVISIBLE notification on their screen.
>warlock feared the murloc againlooool this must be a troll from here
>>587892956Howcome EVERY change they make is bad? Why are there no good changes (until people yell at them loud enough and they backtrack)
>>587892807>ERM GUYS I DID THE CALCULATIONS AND I DON'T THINK DUNGEONS ARE GOOD XPOkay have fun taking 5min to kill every mob while questing when you don't have any good gear.
>>587892956the no exp wasn't a bug, it was announced in hotfix patch notes, no one said no exp was a bugno xp was a an emergency killswitch they pulled with no further communication explaining it, to stop a bug
>>587892807dungeon journal addon to look at the quests and rewards to see if there is anything you want and where to get the quest. can also see what bosses drop to see if it worth running.
>>587892936Lol wtf I have to spend like $800 on my pre raid. Idk about you.
>>587893263what exactly was the bug?
>>587892906You mean like the TF2 spy? It's an interesting idea but the technical issues there are extremely high. I think if stealth was made to only last 10 seconds or something it would go a very long way. The duration would have to be short enough that the opponent can see the rogue coming from a distance which gives them a much better chance.
>Enjoying my comfy classic experience>Skigger shows up in his druid form or with their skigger island pet
>ziqo math'd out cone of cold hitting for over 18k at 60 with optimal conditions (which aren't hard to get)so are players going to get more health to compensate for the increased damage or is pvp just going to be one shot meme shit for every class?
>>587893207>>587892956I mean this as someone who is mostly enjoying Worlo ForloThe devs are fucking gigatarded and are balancing shit based off of vibes.I don't mean vibe coding but rather like 'Hrmmmm I feel there's a problem with this, let's just mess around with it a little to see what works' and then they make a change. Then the players call them out for being retarded and then the devs go 'Hrmm that didn't work, back to the ole' drawing board' as they throw out another haphazard change.
>>587892993you have to spend WAY too much time in the world in classic for pve to be worth you timei think i would just end my own life if i was that boring or scared of a minor setback, and the set back doesn't even exist if you rolled horde unless i come across your faggot ass
>>587892306warlocks can easily use curse of recklessness to control feared mobs but since this requires 100 iq minimum, most groups will REEEEEEEEEEE if you ever use fear in a dungeon
Apparently you can't MC people on boats anymore
PvP is not going to get better as a sample there’s a 700+ reply thread on the forums completely full of people waiting to be allowed in on PvP Horde character creation
>>587893362They will fix it by nerfing shamans.
Anyone got a pic of Tseric's melty about shamans?
Couldn't the no xp thing be bypassed by boosters anyway?>booster pulls whole dungeon>runs it back to you>drops group>you press a single aoe to tag all the mobs>booster kills all the mobs before the 1 minute kick timer>reinvite the booster and resetNo xp loss as they arent in your group and you got the tags.
>>587893352Bear with me anon
>>587893015it'll show you if they have your character added directly, also I think they can see if you join groups or queue for shit too
>>587893436I never fear in dungeons because it's stressful.I do use curse of recklessness to control mobs that flee at low HP though.
>fotm shaman shitter running around trying to meme one tap people 5 levels below him in arathi>somehow manages to hit my pet instead of me while im literally afk>gets raped by a paladin before he can even kill my pet>camp his corpse and rape him again for trying that shit>then he gets raped by a warrior on his next respawn>sheepishly starts avoiding everybody as he fucks off in ghost wolfkek
>>587893457yeah blizz will have to do something about it because that's money walking out the door. They will almost certainly do some warmode-esque thing utilizing layers.
>>587893520yeah the changes havent impacted boosters at all thats why every chat is absolutely packed with boosting advertisements oh wait
>>587893440you also can't sap people to fuck with them. some rogue tried to keep me from catching the boat in booty bay and about 5 guards beat his ass black and blue, then shot him through the boat walls when he tried to run
>>587893520the chance you die doing that is too high and you dont get xp when youre dead(i think)
spec for this feel?
>>587893457It just means we get faster queues on alliance, but less guild selection for raids. But there’s still tons of people so it shouldn’t be too hard to get a decent guild. I see lots of crap guilds tho those guys are fucking retards
errrm why is "carry offered" a selectable playstyle if power boosting and RMT are illegal ?
At what level is it no longer reasonable to heal dungeons in dps spec? I've heard Drowned City is hard and I'm wondering if I can heal it fully specced as shadow.
>>587893457Yup even if Asmon decided to reroll pvp and took every single member of olympus with him (let's pretend its actually 100k people and not 5k people with 95k alts) all that would do is bring 100k more horde in and we're right back to locked and imbalanced.
>>587893668A rope
>>587893457the /wowfg/ PvP alliance guild is a fucking ghost town. nobody can get a /ginvite and nobody wants to make a replacement guild. it's over
the game could have perfect faction balance in every zone and the pvp would still be shit because it's an unbalanced oneshot mess
>>587893712I'd probably say 40-42? That's really when classes start getting a capstone talent and the game treats you accordingly.
>>587893550Please don't use the rword
>rare mob drops a blue>its bop and I cant sell the junk I can't wear
>>587893327I’m only level 44. Hunter pre bis looks like it’s mostly dungeon with Devilsaur but I’m skinning lw.
he just kicked the warlock cause he feared a mob again
>>587893668i dont know enough about northernlion fans to give you the joke
>>587893668>brazil colorsfemnelf vengeance demon hunter
>>587893659It's really not that hard. I got boosted by some /wpsg/ paladin for 10 runs of SM back on Turtle doing this exact strat.
holy fuck bgs are boring af lmaorather just pvethe only pvp was world pvp while lvling
>>587893668Sex with Mio.
>>587893780resilience when?
>>587893780If you think wpvp is supposed to be "balanced" then you just don't get it.
>>587893350They had disguise in the beta or alpha but took it away because it was redundant to stealth. Doing a replacement would make the rogue just as strong for PVE bypassing while seeing a huge diminishment to pvp strength which means the class can then be buffed in general without breaking pvp I dunno i think it’s worth a shot. The class has been such a dead end for so long Ranger spec“Bandit” spec (1h and buckler and dodge)Thief specAnd I think forever should really consider giving every class a fourth spec
>>587893712Drowned city got nerfed so I don't know if it's still ball busting and mechanically infeasible. But socially, at level 40 when dual spec becomes available you'll probably be expected to have a real tank/heal spec and not a fucked up DPS leveling hybrid
>>587893440You just wait until the boat starts leaving and blast them
>>587893668Druid
alex aura just made that guy randomly sperg out???
lol alex called the rogue a moron he might be reported
>>587893905>But socially, at level 40 when dual spec becomes availableBut I'm still 40 gold away from my mount...
so dire maul is overtuned as shit and DM north aggro ranges are extremely wide and broken to prevent tribute farming. it's awful
>>587893887>akshually world pvp was always a swarm of huntards killing everything in secondssure bro
>>587892560>The net result of that is if you get caught out of stealth you are a free kill but if you open successfully you have a hugely disproportionate advantage.Isn't this fundamental to the rogue class fantasy? You are the guy who loses a fair fight but never, ever fights fair.
>>587893986good
>>587893643Oh is that why sap feels broken and I still aggro a mob when it wears off
>>587893986sneaking to cheese bosses is WRONG!
>>587893859It’s better when there’s fierce competition, but not premade tier. Because premades vs premades are too much work and if you aren’t in a premade you’re gonna get fucking destroyed because voice chat is way too OP. There’s not much competition because rank 14 doesn’t have any competition, im not sure what that was for. It’s still kinda cool but I would’ve preferred like a solo queue system or something with ranked ladder points.
>>587893986u mad? go back to era chud
>>587893998I like being able to gank.I like the anxiety and tension that comes from the risk of being ganked.If you don't enjoy these things then nothing would ever make you enjoy wpvp, even if it was perfectly balanced (which would be boring).I don't pick fair fights and I don't expect anyone else to do so, either.
>>587893986We respect the content in this house.
>>587893810I'm literally 3 manning the dungeon with 2 retards and finished it faster than he does.He is mentally ill.
>>587893889It would have the same problem as TF2 spies, where anyone with any amount of experience sees through the disguise immediately. And that's assuming they created the technical solution required to allow the disguised to match an enemy player perfectly down to the correct gear and everything. No system like that exists so it would have to be created from the ground up, and it would then have to go through years of bugfixing just like the spy's disguises did.
>>587893986I think aggro is totally broken in general but the average player won’t totally notice until something like DM tribute Aggro has felt noticeably fucked since day 1
>>587893986imagine not picking a class that avoids that place lmao
FeralGODS how do you set up your bars/keybinds? I have cat form on mouse wheel down and bear form on mouse wheel up. Back in the day we used a macro with ! modifier for power shifting. Is this still relevant in forever?
>>587894160You now remember the clip of him healing slave pens and wiping on the first mob
how come alex dungeon runs always go badly
>the best zone in the game is the new riverglades one>it's almost entirely the best because it's designed exactly like a retail zoneI don't think the demographic of delusional classic fans seething constantly about retail will ever recover from being btfo this hard.
>>587894170I haven't played WoW since 2019 so I haven't noticed.What's different?
>people rolled pvp for the epic confrontations and rank grind>remove the rank grind from wpvp and make it BGs only
>>587894168The disguise isn’t meant for pvp though. Sure you can try it and might fool someone but it’s meant to replace stealth in PVE content while removing it from the pvp equation
>>587894126I enjoy it in game where I have a chance and can get a fun lengthy fight (classic) I do not enjoy it in games designed by morons who made their favorite class OP and then released early to hit quaterly(Forever)
>>587894001The point is it makes for bad gameplay regardless. Rogues are incredibly bad in large scale pvp like bgs because all the stray aoe damage randomly breaks their stealth all the time. And they are a squishy melee outside of stealth which is a directly anti-synergistic combo because they can't get up in frontline combat without exploding unlike warriors/paladins but they can't attack from range to stay alive like mages/hunters/locks.
>>587893986Someone will just find a new farm in one of the new dungeons.
>>587894170Agreed i can't even remember where it was now but i was literally raging a few days ago cause some area i was in the mobs were clearly bugged and had like triple the aggro radius than they used to and it was fucking me up.
Paladins are a hero class
Has anyone else noticed that mobs sometimes Evade attacks even when you're fairly close and they can easily path to you?I am playing Warlock and this usually happens when I send my pet to attack first so I'm not sure if it's specifically a pet issue, but it's not just my pet's attacks that get Evaded like this.
>>587894238How many more times are you going to make this post? Just curious, i've already lost count.
>>587894272I guess that is coherent but at that point what does a rogue do that a warrior doesn't? Some element of surprise attack should be in play for rogues imo just not the sole focus for everything as it is now.
>>587894238What does being retail mean?
>>587894238>designed exactly like a retail zoneHow? There's no daily quest hub where you pick berries and pet rabbits for 1 hour a day for instance.
>>587894495I stopped playing retail at hellfire penisuvula
>>587894495>>587894491If it's anything like Zephras he just means that it tends to have quest objectives bunched up because it's designed with the assumption that questing is the main source of XP, whereas vanilla zones were designed with the assumption you'd be grinding mobs no matter what and quests were just gravy.
>>587894170>>587894245>>587894336I’ve noticed that you have to talent into stealth otherwise you will always be caught out near instantly. Never had this issue in classic or private servers If you die or vanish mobs will just attack random players around them instead of leashing Mobs generally breaking combat with you to go attack some random guy because he regenned health or something. I’ve seen a mob turn and faerie fire a random rogue who wasn’t healing or anything that’d make threat
>>587894201>doesn't know about weekly questt. casualfag
>>587894546Ok? I did get some TBC vibes from it but that's probably because TBC, Hellfire in particular, was drawing from the same well (Warcraft 2) as Riverglades.
>>587894434Weird that hes basically saying the same thing but implying it as a positive rather than a negative like before
>>587894570no one grinds mobs in vanilla, thoughever. questing is still the main source of xp
>>587894582Theres an actual system fucktard. You can literally just look up how it works, you’re so fucking stupid I’m going to break your head with my sick moves.
>>587894659I'm the one saying its bad because its retail.Stop being a goombaing retard.
>>587894693Yes, it was a mistaken assumption by the devs. They put in so many quests that the most logical thing to do at the majority of level brackets is to follow quests.But it was what they assumed, because that's how it worked in Everquest. It's why drop rates are so dogshit across the board.
>>587894570>whereas vanilla zones were designed with the assumption you'd be grinding mobs no matter what and quests were just gravyThat was literally only true for very specific level ranges. Everything from 1-50 basically is just doing quests for 99% of people. If you are grinding mobs outside of those hell level ranges you are a mage or an autist.
>>587883840I'll get dunked on but I'm doing this at 34 and leveling has been a big improvement switching to a dex/dodge build. My issue isn't mana, its healing spells > draining mana. Now I have 17% dodge + 5% parry popping off Stormstrike continuously which is extremely mana efficient while dodging meaning less heals. I'm probably going to skip Mental Quickness/Rage of the Farseer entirely and just take Flurry to 5/5 for leveling then switch over to Resto for +5% hit chance and Water Shield so I have no downtime at all.
>>587894434>>587894659>everyone itt is a single personCurious that people would arrive at an obvious conclusion about you lot of fucking larpers! But no, it must be a conspiracy, schizos.
>>587894170yeah aggro feels like shit even as a tank. In classic, without salv, without revenge shitting out damage, without AP scaling tclap and rend, without gaining rage on blocks, etc etc I never had issues tanking as warrior all the way to 60. On forever, even though im doing top damage, even with revenge, all the ap buffs, and salv aggro being made baked into defensive stance baseline + extra aggro from defiance talent and I'm losing aggro on everything. I have so much rage im tab target sundering and heroic striking like a mad man, im spamming shouts, im spamming claps, rend on everything, revenge on cd, taunt on cd, and im still losing aggro. It's insane.
>>587894714Oh, do you actually have a reason why you think its retail or are you just going to ignore people disagreeing with you like you did the last several times you made that post
>>587894790see >>587894778But this also explains why there are a couple of "dead zones" where there are simply not enough quests. Quests were to smooth things out, but there are so many that they ended up being the main source of XP.
>>587894570In vanilla you killed mobs on the way to the quest. Killing mobs on the way to quests isn't grinding.
>>587894427and you're a faggot retoilet
>2 minute metaoh no no no no
>see first femdwarf so far in forever>huge bouncing tiddiesbros I might have to roll one...
>>587894802who are you quoting
>>587894427Soloing same level elites has never been difficult
>>587894885>In vanilla you killed mobs on the way to the quest. Killing mobs on the way to quests isn't grinding.wtf lol no
>>587894427Warlock can do this too and we're undertuned.
>>587894778couldnt you still grind mobs in expansions too? whos to say the devs didnt "intend" that as well?
>>587894445more stealing and debuff abilitiesrange dpsdodge/parry riposte tanking Ways to transfer/redirect enemy threat around the party Buff trap disarm for pvpMake dungeons that have trap disarm actually be a useful skill I think rogue can be the melee freak class in the same way warlock is designed as the caster freak class. Receiving new concepts and remixed ideas that other melees don’t have room to incorporate Im not sure a surprise attack is still necessary. It can happen out of disguise. Maybe have a talent that gives a passive buff to strikes from behind in a certain tree.
>>587894895You shut your whore mouth, speak not that darkness in these hallowed halls.
>>587894895Feels nice as nelf warrior>pop deathwish + potion both 30 seconds>pop racial that lasts 15 seconds>racial wears off, pop recklessness that lasts 15 seconds30 whole seconds of big dick damage
>>587894856Its blindingly obvious why its a retail zone.If it makes you feel better I'm not posting it anymore I only replied here because you were hating on the wrong anon. You'll probably never see another post about it from me.
whats the sluttiest transmog for my sky elf?
how long until they cave and just let us spam dungeons again
>>587894986I'm sure it still works in retail now.But eventually they realized people expect questing to be the main source of XP and started designing zones entirely around questing.
>>587895127They already did.
>decide to level smithing>need 1200 mithril holy shit
>>587895091>Its blindingly obvious why its a retail zone.Which I'm sure you'll expound upon instead of just declaring it thusly.
>>587895127they already did, you get 60% xp and clear faster than original classic
>>587895012https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8EwwvaFOhk
>>587895171Blackedsmithing has always been a fucking shitty prof to level.
MY POWERITS SHIFTIIIIIING
>>587894802>the person who keeps copy pasting the same post verbatim usually with the same images attached which happens to be factually inaccurate and wrong is actually different people!Curious that you would try downplay the most obvious samefag in the world. Couldn't be you, nope.
>>587894823Yea basically you’ll want to just heroic strike. It’s by far the biggest threat generating ability. Sunder is your highest dps ability. Revenge is also higher threat than heroic strike and you’ll want to use that on cd. You tclap when there’s like 3 mobs I guess, maybe 4.
ok what class is the most FUN?!
>>587895127My cope is that all of this gay fag shit is just a stopgap and they've already caved and are working on implementing a system that gives diminishing returns per daily run like everyone suggested two months ago and they just don't want to announce it until it's ready.
>>587895171>decide to level smithingWhy would you do that?
>>587895198it should be 100%
>>587895260The one u like the most. :)
>>587895091And Im pretty sure I've replied to you (or someone else making the exact same arguement as you) as to why it doesn't feel like a "retail" zone at least from the Horde perspective twice
>>587895260the one you like most
god I wish nelf shamans were a thing, I'd make the sluttiest tribal grape elf and
>>587895274
>>587895206
>>587895316seek help
>>587895316How would you feel about human male cock?
>meet nelf in a tummy slutmog with femboy in the name>almost immediately drop my spaghetti tryna get cuckedit's over for me I should kms
>>587895260Why does Sunny always have a melty and disappear from the net?
>>587895260The one I like most.
>>587888715meet me at subway cutie
>>587893986Will it stop hunters from pulling with the pet and then running ahead and feigning death?
>>587895241Rend isn’t worth casting because you’d rather just get a sunder. Unless you have literally zero physical DPS in your group. The way sunder works, just imagine every auto attack you do deals 5% more damage per sunder armor stack. So you’ll see it quickly outpaces rend and heroic strike for damage. You can only rend if you have 5 stacks up, and the thing will live long enough to get half rend duration.
I have 4 days played and only just now hit level 40
>>587895414what server
>>587895274They do get bop weapons
What playstyle is "I have six quests for this dungeon that I need to complete"
so how do i get a group as a dps? im playing rogue and there are like 500 other dps wanting to join the dungeon
>>587895540Relaxed
>alone on my layer for 1+ hour then all of a sudden surrounded by 20 horde, 90% warlocks and ferals all who feel like corpse camping methe layering in this game is so fucking dogshitretoilet devs through and through
>>587895547Have a tank or healer friend.>I don't have eithergood luck.
>>587895526na pvp
>>587895547I've had zero trouble getting dungeons on RP-PVP. I think the healer shortage is more of a PvE problem.
>>587895547Make your own group and invite people that want to spam SM Armory with you like a real chad.
>>587895540Relaxed, I am very high.
>>587895260undead warlock with goblin engineering
>>587895618Basedsangreen brother
>>58789551330-40 is a huge noob trap. You went to the wrong places noob. You wasted literally 30 hours doing that. Youre still ahead of the pack by like 150 hours though, seems fine.
>>587895241i know how to play my class man, im just saying how does a warrior in classic without 101% extra threat generation have more threat than the same warrior in forever (with better gear even due to new shit) that has 101% extra threat generation?
who the fuck cares about vanilla pvp?warlocks can fear for 15 seconds lmaojoke game
>>587895540Only relaxed. Competetive expect as many trash skips as possible and that you'll have potions for dps.
It ain't easy being green.
>>587895640He said fun, not evil and fun.
>>587895547if you aren't already, be close to the dungeon. I get invited to most of my groups on the first or second whisper and I always mention that I'm at the dungeon ready to go
>>587894984Warlocks are THE hero class.
>>587895547Check the level of people in groups. When you hit that copy and paste /w all groups. Rogue and hunter need to be a couple levels higher than healers and tanks.
>>587895547Rogues pretty good for leveling dungeons because most tanks are really more interested in 2 handed weapon drops and there’s not much leather armor that they care too much about. They still compete with a couple godly items but those things never drop anyways and you’ll be waiting forever if you try to build a caster group.
>>587894427lol at wowbabs not getting it
Clown suit looking goofy
>>587895692I really don’t think you do you seem totally clueless. But anyways, warriors didn’t have great threat in classic either. Youll easily pull threat if you aren’t watching the threat meters in classic, even if you have shit gear and your tanks in like full naxx loot. Because it doesn’t work that way.
Why did Blizzard shit up the loot pool with so many useless fucking "tank items" that only give stamina and defense? There is no world where a 10stam+5def item is better than a 10stam+5str+5agi item for any tank. You don't even need defense until you are raiding and the avoidance given from agi is better than the avoidance given from higher defense and you get crit on top. AP from str will also outweigh defense because that's your threat. Yet literally every single leveling dungeon has like 2-3 of these dogshit worthless items in them now.
rate the slutmog
>3 warchief's blessings within 15 minutesGoddamn
>>587896042You have the warchief's blessing to sit on my face, queen.
Is there an addon that makes herbs glow so I can see them easier? Picking sungrass in feralas is aids
>>587895993You are mentally retarded man. I've leveled 6 different warriors to 60 and threat has never felt as bad as it does in Forever.
>>587888062>Roll PvP Ally>Get fucked in wpvp due to ratio>"Oh well, at least queues will be crazy fast, meanwhile hordes will be left holding their limp dicks">Nope, blizzard makes the player pool shared. Literally no pros to playing ally in pvp now.Fuck, blizzard is such a dog shit company.>"But whut about muh Qs??"Well, this would have been the natural equalizers...What blizzard needs to do is unlock the faction lock for PvP, so hordes can reroll ally without deleting their character. And then lock up shared player pool for BGs.
>>587895731All day and all night and everything I see is blueLike me
>>587895882>whispering to get ahead of the queue Ahahaha fuck off retard, I won’t be bullied into inviting this bot just because he sent me a message.
>>587896023I like it in theory but wish the tabard were different.
Where are all the cool looking tabards at?
>mage actively becomes worse and even less fun the higher you level itwtf
>>587896150yeah I wish it were different toomy guild's is pretty ugly so if you have suggestions, I'd be open to em
>>587896135I literally am playing classic while I write this and am pulling threat constantly because nobody marks anything. You are not remembering correctly.
>>587896042Did you ever gen that nursing handjob set?
>>587896146Is there a queue? I hadn't thought about the order of the people in the group finder because I never spend more than 30 seconds waiting for a group.
>amateur game designers in the thread are mad about rogues>their suggestions are all shitmany such cases. rogue's mass rework in legion was the worst thing to ever happen to the class. it's unsurprising that it has become the least played class ever since.
>>587896146You will because I’m 3 levels up and outside. I spam the entire list and get a group in 1 minute every time.
Can we please nerf paladin already?
What profs to pick while leveling Resto Druid? Rerolling ruleset, Skin/LW felt like a gold and timesink.Was thinking Herb/Mining or Herb/Alch
>>587894889you've been seething for days at this pointhow do my nuts taste?
>>587896280I heard the alch's transmute basically gets you 30g every 2 days
what is his problem?
alex is using add ons...
>>587896270Rogue was fun as fuck in Legion thoughbeit. Not outlaw that was meme shit, but sub and ass were awesome. The legendaries, tier sets, and weapon trees were all great. t. gold parsing cutting edge raider
>>587896274HrmmmmAs a slightly biased paladin playerNyo.
>>587896274It's been 20 years anon they aren't gonna nerf it.
>Disconnected mid SFK run while I'm tanking>Game's not letting me back inI spent way too long getting this group togetherI'm gonna fucking kms
>>587896274Where is your patience, master dwarf? Have we ever let you down?
>tfw you rolled on a dead realm
>>587896225Something like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsxLBkAfaK4
>no one knows that spriest is op yetyes please keep talking about paladins and shamans, pay no mind to spriest
Surely horde niggers have something better to be doing than camping low level dungeon entrances, right?
>>587896608who how what why
when the rest of the mob gets to 60 and sees the state of dungeons it's gonna be real bad
>>587896592what addon
>>587896608This general has a very bad grasp at forlos balance.
>>587896019Defense in small amounts isn’t very significant. But, Stam is a dead stat unless you’re getting one shot. Defense is excellent for healers mana pools. And, when you get defense on every item, you do get like 10% more avoidance so it’s pretty good. But you’ll still need a bit of Stam. Agi is definitely not paying off as much as defense does. Defense is a very expensive stat because when avoidance gets high enough the tanks just stop taking any damage at all. They literally take 0 damage you can check the recount meter. 0 damage.
>>587896573shit forgot the picture
Mage is the most suffering class to play currently and it ain't close, Warlocks get a bit better at later levels and Priests at least get shadowform at 40. What do we get, other than even LONGER periods in which we need to sit to drink/heal due to scaling on summon water being fucked?
>>587896521>I spent way too long getting this group together>I'm gonna fucking kms>tankwhy were you MAKING the group?
>>587896663mind blast into death is insane
>>587896647Bro I got some really bad news
>>587896683SpokenQuest UI is DialogueUI
pla(p)yable dryads
How do I get restedXP for free
>>587896570the most soulful have the least amount of sixties and the least amount of speedrunning trannies, BASED AS FUCK!when your pve and pvp realms die from faction imbalance, remember to get on your knees when you beg for rule set transfers to the real servers, shitty
>>587896826how nice are your feet?
cataclysm ruled...
>>587896570hell yeah i did
>>587896570why so many on pvp?
>>587896647It's too late, too many 60s yet not enough to do real shit yet and no raids till December. They are hunger and you are plump & tasty treats to pass the time.
well it took 4 characters to figure it out, but Shaman feels rightfeels like main
>>587896862because they rush to 60 to gank you.
>>587896862Highest concentration of try hards
>>587896775Dryads PLAP you...https://d.uguu.se/mywgnLDTcQHn.jpg
I'm not clicking that
>>587896023would turn into my hotwife
>>587896867Gently massaging skelf ears
>>587896846I'm a man
>>587896867why does the mirror show her face
>>587896570>rp chads just taking time to enjoy the atmosphere instead of rushing to 60 with no content
>>587896862Blasting people who are questing from 40+ yards away is the ultimate gaming experience
I hope you all are taking advantage of shards/layers and just dipping from bad/shitty dungeon groups instead of having to suffer through them for some sort of server reputation.
>>587897009its impossible to form groups on rp servers because using tells is a violation of the roleplay code
>>587897041Not true I whispered people about getting into their group and they accepted me. :)
>>587896826google "wow forever rested xp crack"
when does the game get fun? is it fetch quests all the way down?
>>587896993You're next.
>>587896983I asked how nice are your feet.So how nice are we or are you gonna play hard to get?
wow tbc classic noob here, which race should i choose for priest on horde? i did human spriest until 50ish until i quit on tbc classic
>>587897038>queue as tank for dalaran>kill the first 2 bosses and get the last kill i needed for the quest that you cant complete unless you run twice>leave
>>587897038One wipe is my queue to leave. I’ve never caused a wipe before, so I’ll hold others to that same standard. It’s not a very hard game like literally just follow me and don’t pull half the dungeon through being retarded as fuck.
>>587897167The one you like the most
>>587897201b-but the meta
>>587897092about 4 years after release
>>587896723If you haven't figured out the AoE farming tricks yet you will never be a real mage.
gearing pre raid is gonna be nightmare when the pack catch upThe amount of retards needing shit they legit makes no sense for their class and spec is absurdLike wtf
>>587897223meta deeze nuts on your face.
>warrior with 5 levels on me charges me while I'm fishing>fear into full dots>immediately ends the fight and runs away>never even equipped my fishing rodheh... too fucking easy... warlock is god-level...>hunter the same level as me attacks with pet + bird + some sort of effect that looks like druid's wrath>drop dead without even being able to cast fear after 8 seconds of pushback even after chugging a greater healing potionoh...............
>>587896570>believing jeet.ioI just typed '/who 60' on rp-pvp and got 50 people found. Alliance btw.
Are there any new recipes for weaponsmithing/armorsmithing?
>paladin rolls on cloth item in dungeon>healer gets pissy when I roll on +spellpower gear because spellpower got merged with +healing on gear for some reason
>>587897038>Form group with Warlock for summon>Get full buffs>LeaveYep it’s questing time
>>587896271Not from me, I don’t invite those “people”. They seriously think they’re like don draper and they can own anything they want.
>>587896973who would you be sharing me with?
>>587897265BM hunters are fucking gross right now.Thank fucking god I rolled one or I'd be mad.
>unlock shadowform>completely fucking unkillablei feel like this is getting nerfed but i hope it doesn't
>>587897403>>587897403>>587897403
>leaving after one wipeyou fucking retard bitch ass nigger
>>587897438>>587897438>>587897438
>>587897412no one wants your autism, you're safe
>>587897234>aoe farming tricksWhat are these? Because from my experience it has been nerfed into the ground. Blizzard and frost in general is a useless piece of shit with several of the passive proc features literally conflicting with each other design wise. Arcane Explosion isn't good either unless you're using it on camps 5+ levels below you, it instantly breaks frost nova and you have to fully eat and drink afterwards each time.
Which one do I migrate to?
>>587897380whoever's man enough to claim you, duh <3
>>587897339Yeah healer see Healing Power > Spell power and gets bitchy when lose the need to the dps casterBITCH99% of this type of gear ALWAYS has more HP than SP so deal with it when mage warlock shamans (all specs) roll need
>>587897535the femtauren one
>>587897380Me, I would post my futanelf but im phone posting at work
>>587897516I have a feeling they're gonna rape it into the ground later on but Revelation makes AoE farming a breeze with Blizzard even after the nerf
>>587897380Feral wolves
My blue elf is so cute!
Who is the fucking idiot that thought breaking immersion by letting a bunch of players layer out into another zone was a good idea? Can't even chase people now wtf
>>587896330hes gay
WoW players live like this?
>>587896592what realm are you on faggo
>>587897414>>587897479discord faggot ritual kill yourselves, niggers
