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Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

/sthg/ #9740 - Buffdow Edition

==NEWS==
>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversary
https://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary
>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 on 19 March 2027
https://x.com/SonicMovie
>Netflix animated series for preschoolers with attitude in production
https://variety.com/2026/film/news/crazy-taxi-movie-netflix-sega-sonic-stranger-than-heaven-1236861148/

==COMICS==
Sonic the Hedgehog #92 - 9 December 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #5 - 16 December 2026
Sonic and the Blade of Courage #19 - December 2026

==OTHER==
>Links
https://rentry.org/sthglinks
>SAGE
https://sagexpo.org/
>SHC
https://shc.zone/
>#10000 Project
https://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru

Previous Zone: >>587886158
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Wish I may, wish I might
Be someone else tonight
Sometimes I wish I was never born at all
And I'll try to save the world
'Cause in the end I know
I'm the chosen one
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*headpats your OC*
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My wife.
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>>587914337
Sonic explored her pussy
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>>587914135
>I don't cherish our adventures
>Shut the fuck up pussy
>*Weight lifts and smokes*
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>>587914310
But my oc is not related
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>>587914376
If you put your dick in her, do you get shocked?
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>>587914376
Sonic didn't do shit, he cried at her about much he cherished her and she walked out of the room grossed out
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Sonic "hormonal mood swings" the hedgehog
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>>587914519
Sorry, Eggman stop STOP not today!
I'm being serious I'm getting cluster headaches! Stooooop!
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>>587914426
headpats are equal opportunity for all fandoms!
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Is still Silver's birthday somewhere in the world
Happy birthday Silver
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>>587914519
Sonic the Fucking Realistic Panic Attack Haver!
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Can we admit now that an Archie writer can't get Sonic's character right even if he's trying his best
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I think I'm over Amy's love being removed,
Makes Amy more respectful as a character she wouldn't waste her time on a crybaby.
Now she can get with Bark. A real man.
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>>587914898
I think we can all agree Ian won an Ian haters lost
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>>587914952
don’t support my ship under such weird pretenses
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>>587914981
I cherish you anon.
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>>587914898
I don’t remember saying otherwise.
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>>587915015
Weird? pretty common to dump losers for cooler guys with an actual sense of self respect.
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>>587914898
He either does Deku or Ben Tennyson. Never Sonic.
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>>587914763
He’s regressing into Nicky
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Even Fortnic the Fortnitehog got sentimental...
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I think Iizuka just likes making Sonic look lame to make Shadow more popular. He made Sonic act like a retard in shth, had mandates to keep Shadow normal in the movies while Sonic is an uwu baby same thing happens in Prime too.
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A good windfag is a dead windfag
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>>587915409
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Sonic the wimpy bitchy pathetic scaredy cat happy cuck
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There is literally a motherfucker in here getting genuinely angry at people making fun of that face. The way he types; it sounds like he's red in the face and gritting his teeth. Lmao.
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>>587914981
>shitver babble
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>>587915576
But I love windfags
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I hate Shadow but he is the only one who still has his dignity pretty much intact
Fuck you Shadow
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Are you surprised vulnerable people get triggered when you make fun of vulnerability
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>>587915723
You lost
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>>587915805
This is my favorite one.
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Sonic making the sentimental face after he kicked Blaze's shit in that boss fight in Sonic Rush
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Sonic looking sentimental after slaying King Arthur.
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>>587915956
HAVE A NICE FALL YOU STUPID BITCH
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>>587915805
https://youtube.com/watch?v=gWM_ATXMXRM
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The problem is we've already seen Sonic react to his friends literally dying with more grit than this.
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Sonic looking sentimental after Eggman destroys half of the moon.
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>>587916128
Sonic died long ago, so I could care less.
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This is tails fags revenge against canon purists who defended Forces characterization
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>>587916225
>could
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Sonic looking sentimental when eggman killed Sally near the very end of Archie saga
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>>587915595
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>>587916372
Okay, but wasn't the Biolizard also called Project Shadow?
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>>587916339
As long as they don’t mess up the art style with a reboot, I’ll always kinda be paying attention to Sonic. But I’ve been checked out on any of the games or writing.
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Why do we care when a 10 minute animation does it instead of a four hour TV series
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Elise!!
Oh wait I am the wind, I don't care if she dies
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>>587915881
oh yeah, makes sense actually
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Dow
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>>587915889
>Silver keeps saying "you lost" as Shadow kicks his head in on the ground as Sonic give an emotional smile
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>>587916576
Jesus, you are throwing everything at the wall to defend this
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>>587916716
>Anon claims he wins as Ian pisses on his face and everyone laughs at him
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>>587916806
It’s hilarious.
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>>587916705
This is IC for Prime Sonic btw.
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>>587916807
>Sonic gives a sentimental smile and licks the piss off the floor
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>>587916863
*Sigh*
I cherish these races
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>>587916915
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>>587916949
Someone edit this to make him sentimental
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Wwyd if you had a burritodow
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>>587916898
>Anon keeps yelling at malding at Ian like monkey with only one parlor trick
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Isn't this what Teamdarkfags want for Shadow?
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>>587917184
Yeah.
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>>587917184
Maria...I will cherish thrse memories...
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>>587917184
It's pretty ironic that Sonic fans have a lower tolerance for halflid crap than Shadow fans
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>>587917184
Yup.
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Quite ironic that a character that’s supposed to symbolize moving forward is constantly dwelling on the past these days. Don’t you think?
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People keep saying this is movienic like he wouldn't call this corny
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>>587917320
Most of them are saying that anyone that criticizes how Ian characterizes Sonic just want him to be an emotionless husk that doesn’t feel anything.
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>>587916716
Silver knows that if you kill your enemies, they win!
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>>587917415
How do we call him? Cherishnic?
>THE CHOORISHER
>ALWAYS CHERING HIS FRIENDS
>"I MUST CHEEEEEEEEEEEERISH"
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Windkeks are being replaced by moviefags. This is their last struggle before they die of old age
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>>587917415
The Sonic series ran out of stories to tell.
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>>587917445
Movienic is a massive cornball
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>>587917532
That strawman is so over the line I have to assume the people who saying it are personally offended that some people have a limit on how different a character can act before it's out of character.
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All these guys are doing is showing that they have no idea how to make Sonic show emotion.

Not that Sonic doesn't have them, but nigga simply writes another character with a completely different psychological makeup in his place, it's jarring.
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>>587917654
That’s not true. They’re simply too scared to try anything new or risky.
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>>587917643
Movienic reacts with anger when his friends get hurt 100% of the time though.
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>>587915576
Did someone say... wind?
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First it was the fat Deku voice now it's The Expression. Sonic's dekufication continues.
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Sonic was never good and I relish watching this franchise hit new lows.
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>>587917819
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>so you just hate vulnerability
>you're defending toxic masculinity
ok lol
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>>587917643
Windfags are doomed. They live in a world post Steven Unverse. Fandoms crave emotionally vulnerable soft male heroes.
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>>587917856
The Expression?
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They are... MERGING INTO A SUPERINTELLIGENCE
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>>587917697
I think they’re upset over Vulnerablenic getting criticized because they’re also incredibly vulnerable people.
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>>587917996
>gosh Shadow you're so cool
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>>587917996
He’s turning into Amy!>>587917961
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>>587918126
>>587918126
>Fandoms crave emotionally vulnerable soft male heroes.
They don't, actually.
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The whole "You just don't want vulnerable males" thing is funny because we have Tails right fucking there
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>Sonic isn't allowed to be cool and confident anymore, he has to be vulnerable and openly reflect on his internal problems
How the fuck did we get here, man.
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>>587918141
It’s an expression of pain.
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>>587918126
Pff as if! Boys still love adventure and everything windnic stands for.
All that's happening is infertile idw faggots living in a bubble while everyone else ignores them and sticks to the based material.
In the future people will still be talking about the classic games, Adventure, X, etc... and all this ian faggotry will be nothing more than a footnote trivia example of that one time fags got in control of the narrative and abused the franchise, screeching for acceptance with all their might while slowly withering away and getting left behind.
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I miss having CD on my phone. I didn't keep it before it got delisted and now I have to go turn on an actual console to go play it
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>>587918378
Tails sucks and inspires no one
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>>587918412
If i say feminism they'd jump on me.
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>>587918223
There is a difference between being vulnerable and being open.

Sonic can EVEN be vulnerable in extreme situations but he is never fucking open about it
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>>587918412
Maybe it has something to do with the fact that he’s written by a fat overly emotional soiboi male feminist that loves yuri porn, but I could be wrong.
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If Unleashed came out today I'd hate it. Everything from the Werehog to Sonic being sad about it would just be too far for me. Theyre lucky I was too young to know better back then
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>>587918470
It's like a specific form of white male feminism who think women need to be girlbosses and men emotional when actual women love girly cute characters and strong, confident dudes.
We've gone too far in the wrong direction.
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>>587918472
I remember someone saying that Unawakening Float is Sonic coming to terms with the fact that he might actually die.
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>>587918412
Hiring a fucking Archie writer
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>>587918601
Didn’t he make Tangle specifically to replace Amy in the comics because he didn’t like how girly she was?
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>>587918601
Nothing about race because barnes is also a kind of faggot, there is a subset of progressivism that is like a cancer.
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>>587918727
Then he realised he could just change Amy herself.
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>>587918746
Daniel Barnes is not Ian level where is this coming from
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This one killed me.
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>>587918852
I think he went on some kind of tirade about how he hated white people, but I could be wrong.
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>>587918852
Writing side no, but twitter-side he was always a massive faggot even praising expo trannies.
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>>587918859
Leave Santiago out of this.
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Vindication
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>>587918959
All western writers are gonna have some degree of faggotry. I will ignore if it doesnt bleed into your writing
>>587918958
You are wrong. Hes black and obviously disgruntled like most blacks are and that comes off in some fucking corny joke tweets. Literal nothingburger faggots pretend to get mad about and pearl clutch over
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>>587917184
Yes. They want Shadow to be a vulnerable uwu cherishfaggot.
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>>587919086
Actual Ian dialogue btw
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>>587919086
This would mean a lot if it didnt use 90s western sonic so this is meaningless to me
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>>587918958
He did and i had the screen somewhere, but it's not that the biggest problem, my problem is he has the potential to cuck out like ian.
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>>587917996
lol
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>>587919185
And when he cucks out we can call it out and hate on him. Like when he said that Master Emerald bullshit and people flamed him
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>>587919125
stfu danny
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>>587919125
>Hes black and obviously disgruntled like most blacks are and that comes off in some fucking corny joke tweets
Posting relentlessly about white privilege is not exactly just a bunch of jokes, it's more him venting like a woman. That's why i say he's a faggot.
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>>587919296
Hi Krack
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>>587919296
Ok this is unhinged
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>>587919296
And they call me insecure, KEK
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>>587919335
I hate to break it to you but masculine black men dont exactly pick up writing as a trade
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Archie was a massive mistake. All you faggots gained from it is self insert shit and waifus
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>>587919296
Nah he cooked with that Kingdom Hearts joke tho fr
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>>587919296
Holy shit
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>>587919482
And that's bad because...?
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>>587919457
>masculine black men
Broken bucks.
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>>587919296
You guys want this guy to write Sonic?
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>>587919608
If he makes Knuckles listen to rap again and makes Rouge latina-orientated again, then yes.
It's that simple.
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>>587919354
Hello
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>>587919608
It doesnt bleed in his work. Hes not the one making things like Belle. His breakout arc is a love letter to SMBZ and the OVA. I dont care that hes a black guy disgruntled over white people in his free time.
You's actually have to be as insecure as he is to care about these tweets
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>>587919608
He's the most normal in the tranny writing team, which means he's the least evil.
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>>587917184
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>>587919645
he'd make a Rouge a post 20 year old latina goblin tho
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>>587919754
The initial tweet pisses me off. "I dont care that its out of character i like---" then you dont like Shadow. You dont like either of these characters. You like what they look like maybe, but you dont like how they actually act or speak
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>>587919754
This is what you really want when you say that you think Shadow being a loner who protects the Earth for Maria is bad and holding him back as a character.
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>>587919754
>>587919913
sentimentalnic and sentimentaldow
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Good morning!
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>>587919823
The only time /sthg/ can acknowledge this is when the American shitposters and shipfags are asleep
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>>587901467
I can't really be hopeful with them being satisfied just with this, Prime and movies had similiar portrayal of a softer sonic and for the people who bitch about relatbility, toxic masculinity etc. just using tails/making another character won't be enough, they will demand that it has to be someone with sonic's design and role. main character syndrome is real so it has to be a nicky instead of a tails.it's likely this is going to be sonic's new character direction rather than just anniversary pandering.
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>>587919754
I'll keep saying it. Archie Shadow is the one Archie take on a character I just can't stand. Instead of being a complete and total non-interpretation like Sonic or Eggman, he's a "fixed" Shadow. "We made a better version of Shadow, this is how he should be'. I can't stand it.
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>>587919608
Sonic is all about judging people based off their appearance and bigotry.
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One one week away to read fanfics again sisters, hold the line
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This debacle might be worse than the Gens rewrite.
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2 years later and you're still seething about it lmfao.
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>>587920407
AO3 is already back.
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>>587919754
Archie was a mistake
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>>587920575
Wft, did it happen one hour ago?
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>>587920689
It’s been up for the last 3 hours or so.
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AO3 is the only place Sonic is good.
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>>587920812
And you didn't tell me?
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>AO3 is back
FINALLY, I CAN READ ABOUT SHADOW GETTING RAPED BY SHREK AGAIN
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stinky fujos and yuris take a fucking shower
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>>587920423
damn man thats tough have you tried hiring a better writer?
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Sad thing is i bet you guys dont even read good fanfics
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>>587920981
You can stay here seething about Sonic having emotions while I read a fanfic about Sonic having emotions and taking a shower.
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>>587921093
Give me good fanfics and tell me why they're good.
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Shadow is the coolest
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>>587921176
No just gimme your fanfics and ill tell you if theyre good
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this franchise is so fucking autistic man
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>>587921083
the greenmy vs bluemy civil war casualties were horrific
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>AO3 is back
I can finally read this
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/585992101/#585999663
>werehog/Amy
>by marinverficanon
WE'RE SO BACK!
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>>587921201
I am asking because i never read anything.
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>>587921105
This is the fate of all stinky fujos.
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cnc
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>>587921301
Keep it that way
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>>587921332
ok then i'm choosing the first troonslop i see
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need a stinky Sonic fujo wife to read fanfics with
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>>587921389
FIONA IS NOT GAY!
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>>587904805
>She doesn't really outright starve but they pretty openly talk about dieting and calorie counting
No she doesn't though. The fact Amy even got boxercizing from a dieting plan is something you only get from reading the description if her basic attack card which is a random drop.
Cream mentions she got into boxercizing because she was upset with herself for being too weak to protect Emerl.
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>>587921389
Scourge stealing Fiona is funny because did Sonic even care? Did Sonic even want her?
They shouldve done some issue where Fiona checks back in on everyone and sees Sonic happy with Sally and Tails happy with Minaahhhhimean Li-Moon and she realizes nobody cares that she's gone or evil and she isn't missed
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>>587921253
Does this guy even write sex good
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>>587921504
Fiona needs to stop being a TERF and realize she's got a girlfriend now
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>>587919645
You know what, you're right on this. That daid, he wouldnt do that. He is pretty dedicated to trying to have good interpretations of the characters with themes and such.
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>>587920896
You never asked.
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I can't take Krack seriously until she's on this level. She's just larping.
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>>587914981
One day I really hope it comes to light what's going on behind the scenes with Ian
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>>587921686
It's a cold lonely world.
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>>587921389
Surge can’t even compare to Scourge.
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>>587921389
>top scars
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>>587921841
What the actual fuck is this roastie shit...
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>>587921795
Very interesting that Sonic Team let them write this.
Despite the noncanonicity today, the canon lore timeline states that multiple Gizoids were indeed built. They place this 2000 years ago, far after Chaos destroyed the echidnas.
As much as it would be cool to explore that, not only do I not trust it to be better than Chronicles, I don't trust the lore team to do it. Maybe Kishimoto.
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>>587918332
So the real boyAmy was Sonic all along?
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>>587921993
You think female autism is a joke?
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>Mario... I'm just... *sniff* touched that you would make time to compete with me...
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>>587922060
I... I didn't think it could reach this... such mindbending power.
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>>587921686
Li Moon would be funnier because of her uncanny similarity to Fiona. I can imagine seeing Li Moon would be the thing that makes Fiona flip her biscuit and blow her cover.
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>>587922018
>>587921795
It's funny that things established by Chronicles became canon but not the core plot
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>>587921841
What the fuck?
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>>587910956
>Surge should be Amy’s rival instead
For those that say this, what would this actually look like. How would they be rivals? What makes them rivals?
I've seen people say Surge and Blaze don't actually work and that it's rooted in aesthetic, but I think they have a much more compelling argument for typical rivalry. Amy is not the type to really form rivalries and currently she's wants to help Surge with her current dreams. Amy is too kind and sympathetic to Surge's situation to truly butt heads with her. From my perspective, Surge and Amy as rivals seems even more fueled by aesthetic. Surge has a design opposite of Amy and a mean attitude that contrasts her kindness, but if you look past that it's everything about her backstory and how Amy is as a character why a rivalry isn't a suitable outcome.
The only thing that could make them rivals is having a spat over Sonic which isn't going to happen with Amy's current mess of characterization and Amy being aware of Surge's turmoil.
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>>587922134
Does this ever work? Why do people do it
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>>587919754
So this is the true endgame of Moveondowfags. Shadow reduced to just another soft sentimental friendly face. Stripped completely of everything that made him special, tragic, and dangerous. A Shadow in design alone and nothing else.

If Shadow ever made that face at Rouge, Omega, Sonic, or even Amy, they would defend it. If he "got a life", started doing Netflix and chill, and settled into cozy domestic slice of life mediocrity, they'd call it growth.
They are the type of people who praise '06 Shadow - not because '06 Shadow is cool, competent, and operates on his own terms with people who don't second-guess his methods, but because they can screenshot the moments where he stands next to Rouge and Omega and use it as ammunition to demand he become the Archie version Ian wrote. Most of them have never honestly looked at what he actually says to Rouge and Omega in that game, and the few who did only checked the English localization.
The damage it does to the characterization of the conniving devil-may-care Rouge can't be understated either. To people like that, softer automatically equals better.

These types of people are why we got IDW Silver. It's why we have Sentimentalnic the Primehog. And if they ever get their way with Shadow, you will never see him act the way he did in the 2000's again. Because to them that would be "regression". They're so obsessed with the illusion of "development" that they're willing to gut everything that made these characters popular and loved in the first place.
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>>587922154
West vs East be like:
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>>587921841
The body pillow next to the two maid and bunny dolls that had to have been commissioned is a mental triple shotgun blast to the psyche.
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>>587922239
Didn't you see that story written up the other using ai and an anon's pitch?
It comes more from their respective relationships to Sonic. Amy love(d) Sonic, Surge hates Sonic, and that's a point of friction that could spiral into a rivalry which, in this rare case, the good guy (Amy) does not automatically beat the bad guy (Surge) since Surge is stronger than Amy
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>>587922289
Dont pretend you care about other characters
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>>587922239
Amy’s genuine love for Sonic vs Surge’s artificial hatred for Sonic
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>>587922448
What makes you think I don't?
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>>587921646
I am not saying it is the main reason she does it, but as someone who recently played battle, this immediately comes after that dialogue box you posted and is not the only time it is talked baout either.
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>>587922154
Li Moon didn’t make a lot of appearances did she? I never heard anyone talk about her til recently.
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>>587921841
Look man, about a fourth of my room is dedicated to Shadow. That's already probably too much.
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>>587921841
To be honest Randy IS South Park's vest character
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>>587922406
>that's a point of friction that could spiral into a rivalry
But that won't happen, not with where both of their characters are currently at. Amy is too understanding that even when Surge lashes out like she does, Amy will still throw her off with kindness. Like what she does with Ring-Ring in boc. There's has to be a spark that drives Amy to combat with Surge to make it a rivalry instead of it being another case of Surge throwing a tantrum. People keep trying to make them out to be female Sonic and Shadow but even Sega has to turn Shadow into diet Vegeta to make it work. It would look even more unfitting for Amy.
Aside from that, do you really think with how SOA has their claws over the characters they'll make the basis of their rivalry be fighting over a man? >>587922507
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>>587922791
No.
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>>587921726
Read it and his previous works yourself.
The site went down before I could read that one until now.
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I am Sonic the Sentimentalhog
Each ring...
Each step taken...
Each badnik destroyed...
Each adventure
Each one of...my friends...
All of them...memories...
Memories that I will always cherish
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>>587922829
>But that won't happen, not with where both of their characters are currently at.
Correct. This was talked about before Surge became a hero, back when we were promised she wouldn't be redeemed. That said, Surge still hates Sonic.
>There's has to be a spark that drives Amy to combat with Surge to make it a rivalry instead of it being another case of Surge throwing a tantrum.
Surge's worldview isn't just a tantrum. The idea is like... when Amy blocked Silver from killing Sonic. But instead of just blocking there's a boss fight where Amy fights back
>do you really think with how SOA has their claws over the characters they'll make the basis of their rivalry be fighting over a man?
I don't think anyone's talking about the realisticness of it happening. It'd just be nice if it did.
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>>587922289
You just know they are eagerly awaiting Izuka's retirement so they can make Shadow return this look
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>>587923008
Each badnik destroyed made me chuckle
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>>587921646
Moreover, it's brought up at the beginning of cream's story. Emerl is literally telling her how much calories she burned and how many calories she should eat for a day. this isn't unacessible obscure dialogue, it's literally cream's story.
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>>587922289
>These types of people are why we got IDW Silver.
Exactly
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Eggman-kun I must redeem you >_<
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>>587922289
I wouldn't have a problem with comic fans if they didn't universally want to change the characters from the games
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>>587923225
what about 90s manga fans trying to turn sonic into nicky?
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>>587922448
Not krack but even the characters you don't care about are important because it means they can get away with changing the ohters eventually.
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>>587922289
Don’t forget Amy too. They got Sega to move on from her love for Sonic, and now she’s Marge Simpson.
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>>587923094
Each badnik destroyed is the memory of a sentient robot feeling pain for the first and last time
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>>587923296
Can soneone get away with changing the idw cast into being good characters now
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>>587923354
Better to just scrap them and try again with new characters.
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The only way a rivalry between Amy and Surge would work is if they clashed with their opposite views of Sonic and I shouldn't need to explain why they'll never go that route in this current era. Especially where they're still afraid of making Amy look hotheaded, jealous or mad because of something with Sonic. 2000s Amy rivalry with Surge would work, no questions asked. Current Amy? It's over.
>>587923051
>when we were promised she wouldn't be redeemed
I think we still have to wait until the end of the current arc to see what they do with Surge, but current her vs current Amy won't result in a rivalry.
>boss fight where Amy fights back
Would that be considered rivalry though? I can not see this becoming a constant thing, I think after the fight, there would be reluctant resolution for the exact reasons I explained regarding Ring-Ring and how Surge reacts to genuine kindness.
>It'd just be nice if it did.
I just can't see it working. On paper it sounds like it would work, but I think making it an actual thing would end up with horrendously forced writing.
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Everyone will be Uwu and vulnerable
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>>587922653
I don't think so, she only appeared in like four issues and rarely spoke up. For all I know, Li-Moon's similarity to Fiona and the hints that she and Tails liked each other (the subtle blushing/looks and leaving gifts for each other) were completely slipped in by the artist. It's kind of rare in the comics to not overexplain something like you're five, but maybe there was a cut sidestory that they forgot about...
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Honestly it's really funny how many people tried to make Surgamy out to be "toxic yuri" but Amy isn't allowed to be toxic anymore and Surge mellowed out
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>>587923312
>Don’t forget Amy too. They got Sega to move on from her love for Sonic, and now she’s Marge Simpson

Which doesn't make any sense. Because it's her actively pursuing Sonic that makes her part of his friend circle and present in most of the games.

If she's off doing her own thing then she'd unironically have to become a side character and not a main one. Because why would she ever even be where Sonic is? Did SEGA and Ian even think about it for more than 2 mins?
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>>587923659
..She didn't REALLY look much like Fiona in her "classic" design, though. In fact, she probably wasn't even intended to be a fox.
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>>587923674
>>587923601
It's like Itchy and Scratchy vs. Marge
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You guys keep making DBZ comparisons but DBZ mischaracterization already did worse damage than this
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I wish we named games after consoles again
I know it didnt happen a lot but Sonic Switch, Sonic Switch 2, and Sonic PC would go hard
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>>587923739
https://youtu.be/8d_oSWH4pMQ?t=157
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>>587923659
>sonic is making thr face in that panel
Cherish these memories Tails...you and Li-moon, some day...
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>>587923785
Red with yellow muzzle = fiona
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwwupHSoPo8
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Shadow, what a fight uh
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>>587922289
Shadow literally moved on in his own game
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>>587924513
Why do you want >>587924263
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>>587924263
Seeing Shadow doing this is even funnier
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>>587924553
Asking to not regress the 05 ending isnt the same as asking for archiedow
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>>587923361
Holy shit
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It'd be cooler if Shadow moved on but he still didn't act like his archie version and retards seethe because they still didn't get want they want
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JUST give me another drink...

Even when i was searching sonic on youtube, wanna know which advertisement showed up? Fucking HELLO KITTY dude...
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This is what no new game does to a fanbase
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>>587924589
How is it a regression when it literally says his memories of Maria ensure he fights to save the world in at least 4 post-2005 pre-2024 character bios and both Maekawa and Iizuka want it? Nobody is asking for them to retread the past forever, he was fighting for Maria's wish in games like '06 as well.
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>>587924649
nobody is asking for archie
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>>587924848
You are asking for Archie. You admit you want that. You want him to look at Rouge and Omega with the sentimental expression because you're the Uwuverfags of Shadow.
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>>587924668
I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR YEARS. I CAN NOT READ MODERN YAOI SONIC FANFICS ANYMORE BECAUSE OF THE CHARACTERIZATION CHANGES
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>>587924754
using maria as motivation means he didn't move on
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Shitdow is boring. Shadria sucks. Sonic and Surge are the best ship.
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>>587924682
It’s not going to be good, so it would be the same.
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>>587924937
Or you just have a wrong perspective of what moving on meant. The character in the picture is something you dislike.
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>>587925119
Did they whitewash zendaya
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>>587925119
how is this not considered extremely rapey
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>>587922289
it's sad that this has to be a controversial take
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>>587925119
Reminds me of Scourge x Bunnie
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>>587925119
this is the type of person who wants moveondow the archiehog
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>>587925031
That is a pretty retarded way of viewing what happened there
James Gunn needed that scene in there because everything about Superman 25 needs to be spelled out to the audience to let them know this is the good Superman who isnt gonna be like Man of Steel. Its sad but this was needed especially for not just Superman's re-entry into movies but the start of the new DCU verse. This is larger than storytelling. Audiences wouldnt have walked away with the right idea without this handholding. This movie isnt written in isolation from other media and surrounding metacontext
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>>587924668
Those girls are the ones running SOA now
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>moving on is archie
>despite it coming from a game
Wow so its true you can turn anything against your agenda into a symbol of hate by calling it archie
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>>587925379
No they're not, they got ran out of their spaces for being proship and problematic. The ones running SOA now are the tumblr types from the 2010s who were obsessed with sanitizing everything with puritanical views.
The franchise would actually be in a better state right now if the women we got were the rapefic writers
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What'll it be?
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>>587914763
Fun fact, the edit this is making fun of was created by a notorious sonic.exe FTM tranny self-harm rape fetishist pedophile whose most notable creation is this garbage
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>>587922154
Limoon should just be in the freedom fighters with no explanation, she just got together with Tails offscreen and Fiona has to be the first to point it out lol
>>587923785
what a glowup.
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>>587925527
Maybe not rape but a lot are sonadowfags or just ascended fans who were drawing/writing shit in 00s. uniornically it would be better if they were non fandom types who were just reading guidelines.
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>>587925340
Everything you said is why the movie aged poorly and part of the many reasons the DCEU flatlined

A movie that can't stand on it's own, won't
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>>587925813
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>>587919754
>the sentimental face originated from Archie
Name a single problem that didn't come from this goddamn comic.
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>>587923361
Real subtle this guy
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>>587926087
Tails hot wife
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>>587925929
This reminds me of that Seinfeld episode where Jerry became more emotionally open

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jK8czV6ffAI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FE72JAJtuMo
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>>587925750
kek QRD?
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>>587926087
Tell me what you meant by this
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>>587924668
What SonicxShadowxSilver yaoi rape? I wanna see
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can we stop pretending Scribbles' AU was anything good
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>>587923785
Oh that's weird. Why'd they make her a fox if her "grandfather" (assuming that's not a term of endearment for a close village elder) is obviously feline? Was it because they regretted the meanspirited way they handled Fiona and wanted to give Tails another chance with a lookalike?
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This body is a machine that sucks the virginity out of men.
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>>587926720
Seething because it makes fun of archiefags?
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>>587926428
Moody picture nothing in particular
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IDW denied you this
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>>587926720
Calm down Scribbles. Enjoy your windpilledness.
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>>587925813
Sonic gives Eggman a second chance all the time but he isn't allowed to try to redeem Erazor because....
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>>587926720
I like it, it's fun
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>>587926931
They denied tailsfans of a lot of things, also because god wanted to punish us all. But i don't think tangle is one of them.
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>>587925839
The movie didnt age. Its been one year. People just switched up.
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>>587926931
There’s always the big E.
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>>587927283
Are people really flowing with this trend? Lmao
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>>587926931
This... isnt better than Sonangle
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>>587926914
Probably. He set off a Hopefag a week ago without even trying.
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How awkward
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>>587927361
You're right, it didn't age. It was always a shitty Superman movie inflated by hype
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>>587917643
You said the dame thing about Modern Sonic, Hessefag. But in the end, Classic just got relegated to a prequel series.
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>>587927150
Might I remind you,
>Sonic
Amy, Sally, Elise...
>Knuckles
Julie-Su, Sonia, Rouge...Shade, Relic, Ariem...
>Tails
Mina, Cosmo, Zooey...Honey, Cream, Marine...Barby, Li Moon, Perci...
Tails has by far the most shipfuel potential out of the Team Sonic trio! Not to take Ian's side, but I don't blame him for at least wanting to reduce it a little.
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You're going to learn the hard way that making an AU where the game characters are unchanged but the comic characters still exist is just offensive to westfags bro. They do not like the games.
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>>587927741
>Honey
>Cream
>Marine
Very dishonest to shove these in
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>>587927745
How about an AU where the game characters are unchanged but the comic characters are improved
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>>587927824
Listing any archie characters is dishonest and you focus on those
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>>587926328
Let me try my best to summarize
The character, Curse, is this person's thinly-veiled self-insert ERP OC with a story that centers entirely about being The Raped. Xer creator goes by a million different usernames because she's constantly rebranding every time she gets chased out by exekiddies for drawing Sonic and Shadow slitting each other's wrists and drawing porn of Sonic.EXE victim Tails, as well as dating pedophiles in the past and defending another tranny FNF pedophile who solicited actual CSAM. Lien is like a much tamer version of Jasper/Kenji/Lucy/whatever other demon shapeshifter name she's using now because at least she hasn't gotten to the level of drawing actual penetration, whereas Jasper was on the 4chan Sonic.EXE /trash/ thread drawing her sona at the time being gangraped by both Sonic.EXE OCs as well as anons there. This image should tell you pretty much everything you need to know about the kind of content being put out by this nigga LMAO
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>>587927745
Eh
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>>587927283
Are these fucks going to edit every single game screenshot? LOL
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They got all the windfags mad
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>>587928123
gotta be on brand
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>>587927741
Tails it's not just potential, he HAD official love stories even on TV if you account sonic X. He's probably the only character ST cared for a relationship that is not one-sided like sonamy.
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>>587922239
Surge's whole deal was designed around Sonic being a redeemfag when really that's always been Amy's thing.
Whatsmore is Amy is Sonic yume while Surge hates him.
Their rivalry is very clear and obvious to me. Amy works hard and spreads love because Sonic is a positive influence and she defends Sonic's ways and says even Surge can turn around while Surge insists this will never happen no matter what. Amy being a Sonic glazer would even piss her off specifically.

Even Amy's uwu date things works because Surge's circumstances she couldnt do anything about were horrible and deterministically trive her towards destructive actions. Her being augmented while Amy just worked hard also is a nice contrast.

>aesthetics
When people say that about Blaze and Surge, they more mean in the sense that people only do that because it woulf give Blaze someone powerful to beat up.

Amy and Surge have aesthetic complimenting and theming, yes, but thats because Surge was literally based on Amy.
She was even gonna have one of those Japanese delinquent metal bats with bolts in em as a weapon to contrast Amy's Piko hammer.

The most comon fanon backstory for Surge is even the idea she was also a Sonic fangirl before Starline fucked her up.

Idk it just writes itself to me.
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>>587926939
That isn't me, but it was indeed a shitpost comic of crackship requests strung together so I'm not exactly protective of it
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>>587927976
Reopen the insane asylums.
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>>587928362
Imagine getting mistaken for your own schizo
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>Surge should be Amy's rival
god this shit would be so fucking lame man
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>>587923118
That's Emerl being a robot and doing a calc though. It also happens afterwards.
Amy's fainting had nothing to do with this. It was because Rouge beat her unconscious. It happens before she even starts the boxercize training.
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>>587922829
>Amy is too understanding that even when Surge lashes out like she does, Amy will still throw her off with kindness.
I dont know why youre treating this as a flaw.

>I NEED Amy to make angry faces at her specifically and want to beat her up.
If Surge hurts people or threatens them, Amy will fight her. Amy is nice but she isnt a doormat. If Surge crosses boundaries or lines, she will pull out the piko on her.

>People keep trying to make them out to be female Sonic and Shadow

I see it more like Sonic and Metal Sonic.
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>>587928362
Are you never posting your characterization pages again or did Krack and Slashy fuck that up?
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>Is that Sonic showing...feelings??? AAAAA I'M GOING INSANE SAVE ME PONTAFF
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>i am so vulnerable
t. Trannic
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>>587923478
>Especially where they're still afraid of making Amy look hotheaded, jealous or mad because of something with Sonic.
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>>587929081
>We have an idwtard here
Explains a lot
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>>587928861
I didn't post because no one asked. I don't even know who Slashy is.
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>>587928272
ST/SEGA was reportedly receptive to Shade for Knuckles, and they're also completely okay with Tails finding love (Flynn seems to be the only person actively against that for some reason).
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>>587929327
They were receptive to everything about Chronicles. But Sega allows any and all shipteasing—Shade didn't get far enough to have the ship talks in full swing so we don't know their real stance on solidying that ship.
Bringing up Boom is also pretty disingenous since we know IDW's no romance policy would trump anything from Boom's rules and era
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>>587929327
>(Flynn seems to be the only person actively against that for some reason).
Flyyn openly hates tails because according to his own words "smart children sidekicks are hard to write".
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>>587928861
why are you obsessed with trying to make scribbles hate krack
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>>587917184
>>587919754
>>587922289
So what bots and VPNs you guys use to self reply yourselves. I wanna it too, please.
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Not only they stopped doing everything I liked, but they also doubled down on dogshit that I hate. Should I quit for good?
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>>587929123
>IDWtard
Im not. im just posting an example that disproved their claim.
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>>587928603
I am not saying everything she does this game is to look thinner for sonic or that she was legitimately starving. but dieting is blatantly mentioned as a (even if secondary) motivation there and this kind of stuff being openly mentioned at all is not going to fly in the current climate we have now.
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>>587929327
>>587929507
They allow it partly because tails has no love interest adjacent in the main canon, for other guys, they don't want to be too blatant or obvious with love interest adjacents in the game canon
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>>587921686
>Fiona barely escapes prison by herself, swearing she'll come back for Scourge
>first thing she does is check out the Freedom Fighters, betting they're miserable
>is shocked that everyone is happy and moved on like she never existed
>Fiona goes off alone to have sone self-reflection
>doesn't go back for Scourge.
I'm almost certain we were going to get a plotline like this, her arc feels spontaneous and incomplete.

>>587927741
No Sonaze?
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>>587930068
I think 06 happening after rush and not having blaze in the love trial pretty much confirms sonic doesn't see her as a love interest.
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>>587929849
Amy doing boxercize is literally one of her most beloved traits and it only really ever showed up properly in Battle until Evan brought it back on IDW when she took the comic up after MetalVirus.

As it turns out, not wanting to be an out of shape fatty is not self abuse or unhealthy.

I get that in the 2010s, we had that surge of schizos going on about fatphobia and took it to extremes to the point of saying watching what you eat is actually toxic and le bad or whatever, but attitudes HAVE changed.
Gen Z especially is all about the hustle culture. People see Amy working out as cool and admirable, and the negative perception around it in Battle is purely the consequence of those extreme and disingenuous claims about what happened still lingering due to the fact no one actually played the game to check.
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>>587928362
>crackship requests
room for one more?
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>>587929594
Krack posted his documents to Twitter for a characterization war
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Oh boy
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I'll nuke you!
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>587930275
This is what having no games does to a mother fucker.
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>>587930387
It takes me out of a fanfic when they make the characters curse
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I don't want to be a woman, I want to be a Mobian!!
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Do you guys like Tails having prominent eyelashes or does that make him look too femme
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>>587928362
There's a pissed off westfag who really hates your guts.
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>>587930524
Curse?
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>>587930805
Say shit and fuck
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>>587929585
>Classic Surge
how does that even work
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>>587930610
Why cant we just keep following the eyelash rule the way it is
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This is what peak emotion is
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>>587930601
How it feels to turn into a Mobian.
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>>587930601
>>587930925
You wanna live in archie? I guess thats where the hot girls are
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Douge
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Can krack fuck off and die
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>>587930871
By having Classic be its own dimension so we can have Classic dimensional counterparts of everybody.
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>>587930898
What rule?
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>>587930142
This. Sonaze was not the writer's intention in Blaze's first appearance, and was not a romance option for Sonic in her second appearance, so it's a canonically-denied ship.
>Sally
is there because she's a nonentity in the games and some other media do make them out okay. Media where Amy is sidelined, but still...
>>587930190
bark-bark!
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>>587930841
I thought it was common overseas
Really? Why?
Still, there aren't that many, unless in specific situations or characters.
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sonamyfags
>They kept accusing sallyfags of making sonic ooc to make sonally work then they turned sonic into nicky to make sonamy look good. Now we have surplus of uwuhellokittynic memes
>They accused sallyfags of spamming sally all day and all night meanwhile amy gets posted more than any character here and most of it is seethe about Ian and SoA
>They accuse shadamyfags of being self inserters despite them being even bigger self inserters and seethe about Katie whenever they see any subtle shadamy hint anywhere.
>sonamyfags seethe at cream for "stealing from amy" and seethe at Blaze because she held Sonic's hand and seethe at Sally for just daring to exist.
>sonamyfags will go pay for movie 4 despite it being clear that paramount are zionist shills who support israel with money and propaganda
sonamyfags really are a buncha jews
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>>587931107
not your boogeyman unemployed retard, go throw yourself off a cliff you worthless retard, you've been engaging in ship wars and samefagging for the past 7 days
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Krack tranny meltdown.
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>>587930149
They also probably didn't intend it and thought moreso that the sonic characters would eat less than humans but 700 kcal a day is actually unhelathily low
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Can we talk about Sonic
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I don't know what the fuck is happening but i'm sure fiona's butt will solve it.
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>>587929314
Slashy is going to use this information to cause drama
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>>587931167
Unless im reading porn in which case im barely reading for the characters and it makes less sense to NOT curse, if im reading a fanfic and they curse it just doesnt sound like the characters I recognize. I think its a weak crutch you dont need and it doesnt make a story cooler or more mature
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>>587931501
Why? There's nothing good.
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>>587930916
What the--
METAL! YOU STOLE MY BIT.
C'mere. I JUST want to talk to you...
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https://poal.me/bgrg8m
https://poal.me/bgrg8m
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>>587927524
Slinger SEX
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>>587931859
Not a day goes by where Metal isn't robbing from Mecha's album.
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>>587914135
Next thread should be Shad05 birthday
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>>587931894
I'm as chuddy as you, and even i don't care.
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>>587929615
Just keep making fun of it until they change their ways or until they die.
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>>587931980
Metal came first. It all loops back to being his album. It'd be like claiming Sonic is stealing from Shadow
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>>587931823
Even if it's a secondary character or in a situation where it would be normal to let out something like "shit"?
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Why can’t Fiona be real?
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>>587932323
In a situation where it would be normal, the character would say "shoot". As soon as you write "shit!" you're twisting it into something that isnt really what im hear for anymore
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Please go crash out somewhere else.
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>>587931728
>fiona's butt bus
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DING DONG
THE THREAD IS DEAD
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Can't we just make fun of shitty writing and making Sonic lame with you volatile fags having mental breakdowns about trannies?
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>>587932839
No.
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>>587931951
Is this krack or a falseflaggot?
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>>587932453
That's interesting. I didn't expect that there would be people who would mind a minor curse. I thought such language was normal overseas, and I didn't expect to be mindful of it unless writing something for kids.

I guess we learn new things everyday.
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It's time
to make the controversial Marine comic
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>>587898974
>Woke up
>Check the /v/ thread
>He still going

That's not normal. It's just worrying at this point .
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>>587933151
Probably duo because a poll tried to ask if krack is the worst poster
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>>587930190
Ok
>>587930252
At the time, actually, I was just more surprised she was able to tell I was the person who made those even though I didn't identify myself.
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Did you guys have any interesting observations about the series or characters recently, like some things you didn't realize clicked
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Yeah, Silver keeps getting paired with girls who are "lesbian", but they fuck him offscreen
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>>587933387
I refuse to learn what the fuck a krack or duo is, and you fags acknowledge their existence, you deserve them.
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>>587933464
This isn't very significant but seeing another anon describe Silver as a "standard shonen protagonist" was pretty handy
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>>587928525
Surge's entire character concept is just "Dark/Evil Amy" 100% with nothing else at all. The moment the decision became to make this Scourge-like character female, she became Amy in concept, and so her character design reflects that. Even being the same height as Amy. She is 'Evil Girl Sonic'.

But all that being said, being the dark mirror of someone doesn't automatically guarantee a rivalry would actually make sense. Sonic & Shadow were only ever rivals initially because of identity crisis stuff. Sonic was framed for Shadow's crimes, and both feel like the other is an imposter, and ultimately Shadow was actively a villain trying to nuke the planet so Sonic had to stop that. But this ain't SA2 anymore. Sonic & Shadow have no actual reason to "compete" with each other, and its forced everytime.

Amy LOVES Sonic and Surge HATES Sonic. That is a clear point of contrast but making that the centerpoint of a "rivalry" makes no sense because they wouldn't be competing with each other, unless every encounter is just a Sonic fan defending him against a Sonic hater, which can only go so far. Especially when Amy's love and compassion would inevitably be directed to Surge herself anyway so it's not like there'd really be heated tension between them anyway.
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>>587933464
Desperate for any positive feedback about the modern writing huh?
I don't know if you're a writer or what, but I'm sorry man, it's all seriously not great. Listen, just grab sentences, and tear them out of the script, keep it drier and light.
Brevity is the soul yadda yadda
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>>587933264
You mean
the one where she steals Kit's "juice"?
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>>587933548
They keep doing tha tbecause America wants to make him gay because they didn't get over the ''jrpg like stuff is fagshit'' from 00s. they just made it woker.
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>>587933151
It can't be a falseflaggot because no one but her has in handy all these links and captions to spam across the thread, after self-replying herself plenty already on >>587922289 >>587919754 >>587917184
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Sonic is a spiritually AI franchise now.
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>>587932410
I like the idea of Fiona just being a fucking chaos agent that just wants to be a bad influence on everyone and corrupt everyone.
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>>587933932
She spams? I guess I'm just not around when that happens...
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>>587933932
What is the problem here? It's bad because she called Archiedow OOC?
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>>587933932
Not me dude
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>>587934292
>>587934293
>same exact timeframe
Uh oh malfunctioning bot...
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>>587933932
>>587934236
he's taking a post from the archive to falseflag because she criticized archiedow
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>587934236
Don’t forget that krack falseflags a tailsfag all the time
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I'm starting to have big respect for anons who make archiefags mad just by knowing the canon characters
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>>587934361
You can THAT a malfunction? Same-time posts happen lol
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>people think that violet is krack
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>>587932174
Mecha was made with no knowledge of Metal's existence according to his creator. The only thing he had to work with was Mecha Mrk1
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Falseflagging and spamming won't make me or anyone else stop criticizing the push for Shadow and other characters to act OOC. Some of you guys would love for pic related to happen if you could get away with it. It's bad. Nobody should have to have their character suffer Silver's fate.
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>>587934673
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>>587934406
Well I know I'M not fuckin' krack, wouldn't DREAM of being a woman.
So it was just some other mentally-ill douchebag, got it.
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You got this artist Evan....Evan Stanley. Yeah that's her name. And she is doing the thing with the pencils. Drawing the Sonic characters and stuff. And the human women, I tell ya, they look all wrong. They got fat bodies and deformed heads. Come on have you seen their noses? And those expressions jack those expressions look all wrong. They have the kinds of uhh uhh expressions you expect to see on Sonic characters but on humans they look wrong. She cannot keep her own characters on model. How are we going to expect her to draw characters like Tori right?
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>>587934673
>Some of you guys would love for pic related to happen
Yeah, because this franchise is shit and only deserves to get worse. Go find better media and obsess over that.
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>>587934673
Please stop bringing your blogposting and teen off-site drama into /sthg/, thanks.
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>>587933461
You and Krack made Comicshitters seethe today so I'm proud of you
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>>587934673
>filename
Krack, I...
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>>587933647
>same height as amy
Since when
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>>587934908
Stop talking yourself on third-person.
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>>587934673
People push silvisper here but that was the reason silver suffered even before Evan. at the very least Silver will probably be less associated with diamond cutters from now on even if we still have to suffer him being paired with OC girls no one cares about
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>>587932174
>Metal came first

CD was released a year after S2, so Mecha came first. But they were both made at the same time pretty much. Though a notable thing to take into account is that the Japanese team working on CD had more information about Mecha Sonic than the US team working on S2 had on Metal Sonic.

Picrel is about MkII but this is also kinda true about Sonic 2 (hence why Tails shows up in CD, but Amy doesn't show up in any other MD games). A common story is that the CD team saw Mecha Sonic and prototype ROM and sent the US team design notes, while also tweaking Metal Sonic's design in response but I can't find the source for this. lol
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>>587933647
>and its forced everytime.
No it isn't. It's forced when they just try to do racing shit. But it shines when they have opposing viewpoints on how to handle a situation, and only they have the power to try stopping the other
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>>587931951
fuck no
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>>587934187
wait, basically you want a trickster fiona?
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>>587934954
What?
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>>587934530
Fuck off duofag.
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>>587934908
I did what
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I miss him already...
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>>587934673
I can't really take you serious and give you benefit of doubt when you just so by some "awful coincidence" always happen to post in worst times possible with other autists (it's you samefagging) thrashing on the thread with noiseposting and spam. Only you have an abnormal amount of tranny ammo shit enough to just spam it here.
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>>587935086
Disregard, I had a dyslexic moment and misread your post.
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>>587933742
Link?
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And then you call us Tailschads the off topic spammer...
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>>587935238
Archiefags got mad at you for your AU not taking the Westshit seriously
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>>587934963
Since always.
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>>587935238
>>587933461
STOP

REPLYING

TO

BAIT

I MEAN IT

PLEASE
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Kitto-sama.
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>>587933742
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>>587935454
>People who actually like Sonic are bait
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>>587935454
Sorry
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cnc
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>>587935452
Pretty sure shes the same height as sonic
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>>587935576
>>587935561
>>587935519
>>587935512
Funny you always post after to divert attention from SOA ruining Sonic and Krack trying to save the IP.
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>>587935580
No. Look at the image. Sonic's silhouette is in this image already, all I did was overlay the actual height sheet for the core 4 using this as the specific scale.

Surge is slightly shorter than Sonic. By the exact same ratio as Amy. You can literally see that Surge & Amy are the EXACT same height.
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This thread is fucking dogshit man. And a lot of you allow and want this to continue.

>>587935678
I had been posting before the one who shall not be named arrived
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>>587935292
>Copy-paste directly from /pol/ then blame it on people who try to talk about Sonic https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/450422786/#q450431683
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>>587935678
you (singular)? I was just posting the hubby before I went to bed
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>>587935716
Thanks i see it now
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>>587935678
Yes anon it's all part of my great plan to merge with nicole and rule the world as a powerful living algorithm.
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>>587935678
1. meds
2. bed
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Sonic and Surge should just breed. Non-stop breeding.
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>>587935716 (me)
>You can literally see that Surge & Amy are the EXACT same height.


EXACTLY the same height.
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>>587935769
Caught. Spamming off-topic tranny shit just to cry about krack makes me think she's right.
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>>587935238
I actually want your take on a characterization point. You're on the "Sonic isn't Cocky" side right? What makes you come to that conclusion?
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Tails ^w^
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>>587933548
>umm girls? Can I join your orgy now?
>...girls?
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>>587935852
ok but without the time stones??
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>>587935769
>archiefags derail the thread with polshit to seethe over gamechads
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>>587935889
This post was written by a LLM.
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AO3 sisters... we are too powerful
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>>587935880
Since when did this place start caring about characters’ hight? Are you a woman?
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>>587935912
CnC!
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>>587935961
>>587935889
>>587935769
I'm not gonna entertain you with your all of sudden samefagging now, but I'm not a dunce, all these links and captions are word and paragraph exactly copy-pasted from your tweets. All of it traces back to your account.
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this looks a little like bootleg-caprisun so i'm gonna say amy stole mario's juice ok
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Look at how upset Archiefags get when you say Archiedow is ooc. They make enemies based on that fact.
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Tails will save us.
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And do you think to stop my hundreds of posts samefagging crusade? I am everywhere... and nowhere.
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>>587936134
Copying someone's posts, spamming them here, then blaming them. Very desperate.
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>>587936025
Why do YOU care about me pointing out the accurate height of a character?

No, I'm not a woman either. What the heck is the correlation????
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>>587936198
Dragofag is one of these Archiefags spamming hard against people saying Archiedow is ooc by the way.
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>>587936021
Well, it's like showing food to starving people. You know what would happen.
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<3
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>>587936350
Women care a lot about hight. What planet are you from?
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>>587936021
>millions of trannies and chuds pouring down the pipeline to mansturbate on written words
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>>587936436
>Women care a lot about hight.
Am I supposed to know that?
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>>587936510
If you’re an adult, yes.
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>>587936436
>Women care a lot about hight.
So do men.
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Boy!
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>>587936343
Daniel Barres mindbroke you, Krack.
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>>587930252
People should post more stuff like this instead of going into pointless fights without knowing Sonic's character
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>>587935009
That same interview states that the designer views Mk. II as a separate construct and that the concept art where its boss fight resembles it was just a placeholder tho
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>>587936586
Yup
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>>587935910
I'm going to sound very wishywashy here; just a preface.

My opinion is that Sonic isn't cocky, but only because I associate "cocky" with the definition that implies it's unearned. A character who is arrogant and constantly overestimates themselves is what I imagine with the word "cocky". So if I'm asked, I'll say "Sonic isn't cocky". It's a rhetorical dispute. The word cocky doesn't have that connotation for everyone and for many people it just means playfully confident, which Sonic is. If I argue "Sonic isn't cocky" to someone who is actually just describing his behavior in SA2, then I'd be being pedantic. That's why I wrote that second note.
I don't think I'd be very handy in a characterization debate, in most cases regarding the game characters my mind is already made up. If Maekawa did it then I like it.

It really isn't as complicated as it sounds either. Cocky is a very informal term, so I don't dispute people who call Sonic cocky. I don't really have much interest in correcting anything regarding peoples' vocab on Sonic. I think it's noticeable if you go out of your way to repeatedly highlight something you consider a character misconception.
Iizuka (Assuming the translation is accurate) has called Sonic cocky before. I'm not going to tell someone they're wrong for repeating that.

Sonic is confident and jovial. He isn't always nice about it. He's usually the one who escalates a confrontation with Shadow. He will quip (best not to overdo that of course). He can showboat. To a lot of people that's "Cocky" and that's fine by me. I don't care to split hairs.
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>>587936960
I didn't expect you to answer
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>>587936960
... I don't wanna talk to you anymore.

Sonic isn't cocky.

You never liked Sonic.
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How do we kill krack
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I like it when Sonic characters act cool and in-character. I like the dynamics established from 1991 - 2008. Shipping and dating belongs purely in fancontent. Cool should always come before cute. Amy should love Sonic. Sonic should be confident and free. Shadow should be a badass dark antihero. Rouge should be a devil-may-care thief. Knuckles should be mountain to Sonic's wind. Tails shouldn't reduced to Jimmy Neutron. The Sonic series should be awesome and good.
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>>587936997
No one expected you to read.
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It's bizarre to think about, but given we know employees and high-level fans keep tabs on the chans I can't help but feel they stir shit up from time to time because Sega hired people as autistic as us and this is their way of venting without getting axed.
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>>587937074
That's what I said, he isn't cocky!!
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>>587937198
No, fuck off.
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>>587936929
He's so amazing and awesome
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>>587935519
>>587935782
Nta did you see the chalkboardanon latest work?
>587840161
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>>587937074
>>587937227
Reddit spacing.
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>>587937074
That's what he said mate
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>>587937131
That's nice but your boyfriend is sexting with other girls as we speak.
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>>587937131
True...
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>>587937287
Stop being creepy and flirting with him. You're embarrassing yourself here.
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>>587937074
The Sonic 1 manual says Sonic is "namaiki", which is a word that can be translated as cocky. I don't think they meant that he's arrogant though. Another possible translation is cheeky
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>be (You)
>nice señorita invites (You) in
>(You)r POV:
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>>587915556
That really sucks. I think you can see this in Shadow 05 too but in a more subtle manner
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>>587937374
... but yeah when are you posting your nudes.
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>>587937131
That makes certain people very angry for some reason. Curiously they are all absent during euro time.
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>>587937498
Sorry, but I’m not gay.
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>>587936960
Alright I trust you
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>>587937484
>>587937346
>>587937297
>>587937227
Stop falseflagging as Krack.
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Sonurge breeding sex while Vanilla gives them tips
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>>587937620
>during euro time.
We literally have shitposting hours there too you shitvertard.
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Sonic isn't cocky
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>>587937739
How am I false flagging as Krack?
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Delete the Modernshit brand
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>>587937739
Stop botting.
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>>587937880
Spam about krack and other namefags always only happens once it's morning in america and the local shitposters wake up
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Throwing Krack into a moving train at 400 mph
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>>587938002
>defending namefags
Pathetic.
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>>587936021
>POV: Sonic fanfic writers starting their new Metal Sonic stories
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>>587936960
So you're a windfag then. You say Sonic isn't cocky.
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Loving krack <3 <3
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I do krack
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>>587938058
oocfag...
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>>587937198
>My opinion is that Sonic isn't cocky but too many archiefags and secondaries say they are cocky off optics and so he is actually lol
It's demoralizing to see you getting to this. I don't want to do anything else with you.
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>>587937498
Worth it.
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>>587938063
It's all boring shit anyway, like Metal/Sonic faggotry or turning Metal organic.
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Leaving Shadow’s decapitated head under Krack’s bed sheets after she refuses to let Shadria go
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>>587937620
>>587938002
And Krack is also american AND always post at the same time as shitposters. Curious!
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>>587937472
nta, what's the problem here? Anon was just asking if dragofag saw the latest piece since it includes drago.
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>>587937472
FUCK YOU ASSHOLE I WAS TRYING TO BE NICE FUCKING KILL YOURSELF ALREADY!
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>>587938294
sanest shadougefag
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>>587937739
Why do you keep mentioning this particular individual
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SHUT UP
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>>587938174
He broke Krack's heart...
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>she is now pretending to be a tailsfag
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>>587938357
Because 4chan isn't Twitter or Grindr. I want to talk about Sonic, not gossip and suck cocks off namefags and e-whoring /soc/ tier attention whores.
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>>587938103
Don't love me, there is nothing to love. Love Sonic instead. Love Shadow. Shadow is the best character to ever exist in the history of existing.
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>>587938448
That's clearly randomfox
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>>587938486
LEARN TO USE FILTERS DUMBASS
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>>587938523
Based.
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Oooooh I'm your favorite scary boogeyman!!!! Yes, it was me, Kronck, all along!!!!!!!!
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>>587938567
That's literally Krack. Randomfox doesn't come here.
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>>587938639
Shut up quark
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Krack raped sthg
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>>587938523
>>587938602
Then tell your simping chuds and terminally online neckbeards to stop making brigades and simping here for you.
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>>587938750
lettuce...
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>>587938267
Or attract tootieschizos
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>>587937620
>>587938002
>>587923121
Hmmmmmmmm
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>>587938750
I'd rather you guys talk about Sonic the Hedgehog. Or Shadow. Shadow is the best character ever. If you like me you should like Shadow instead.
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>>587938750
It's..it's literally about NOT simping tho
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>>587938174
Ouch. Not what I meant. It isn't the optics. Sonic isn't cocky. If someone tries to change my mind on that it won't work.

I just don't think I have the ability to change anyone else's mind on it in a debate at all, so I wouldn't bother. I know for a fact that I'd get caught up in unconvincing minutiae.
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>>587939126
You disappointed Krack!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci97r8R1uu8
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>>587938523
ok but i can't hate you, you get enough hate anyways
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>>587939284
the heck
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>>587939160
I don't care if he calls Sonic cocky or not, the word he's using doesn't matter much if he gets how Sonic acts, which he does. Scribbles has never had a take I hate. Scribbles likes Sonic so I like Scribbles.
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Lettuce, aren't you busy drawing furshit rape porn?
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>>587939189
Good morning! Welcome to the thread!
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>>587938806
>>587938147
>>587938395
>>587939284
>>587929594
What's your endgame? Talking like lc-kun and always simping for Krack?
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>>587939443
lettuce...
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>>587939347
Fangu.

>>587939434
Morn
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My endgame is to say slurs on 4chan.
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>>587936350
Hi Sparky
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>>587939364
Can you please stop falseflagging as Krack?
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>>587937498
Wait. Does this imply that Honey had sex with Tails' bullies?
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>>587939284
/sthg/ not hating me is OOC. It's ok when you call me bad things. Just don't call Shadow bad things. Shadow is the best character ever in the history of ever.
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>>587938357
>>587937287
why don't you also go ask tailspedos, kitfag, rotorfag, werehogfag how are they doing and their discord tags so you can all erp

faggot
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>>587939749
At this point i don't believe you are who you claim to be. I'm tired with schizo games.
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>>587939749
>>587938523
>>587939018
this is lettuce shitposting and falseflagging as krack btw
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>>587914310
Woof
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Nobody likes you krack, you are the problem
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>>587928309
My problem is that when explain this "rivalry" or its potential, you talk about how they're opposites, but not necessarily the dynamic or interactions that would lead to a feud and have Amy and Surge both on an equal wavelength of mutual beating. The most you guys come up with is conflict that not only sounds like a one and done deal when you consider Amy's strengths as a character along with the fact that in these scenarios, Surge is not presented as a rival, but an actual enemy.
And once again, the impossible go to of having them fight over the main male mc in the woke era that's already afraid of Amy being herself.
>>587928856
>If Surge hurts people or threatens them, Amy will fight her. Amy is nice but she isnt a doormat. If Surge crosses boundaries or lines, she will pull out the piko on her.
What makes this different than anyone else fighting Surge and stopping her from crossing a line? What makes this an Amy and Surge specific dynamic that warrants them specifically being seen as rivals? What is the tension point that makes them go after each other and be rivals and isn't just Amy tardwrangling her?
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>>587940010
lettuce...
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>>587939886
How pathetic, he should go back drawing rape porn.
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looney troony bros...
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>>587939773
>Waaahhh why everyone is avatarglfagging, spamming and being off topic?
Gee, anon, if there was a button for situation like that.
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>>587940063
Not your boogeyman fatty
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>>587939940
wtf is this thing supposed to
why do her wings keep
wtf is going
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>>587940130
>>587940141
>>587940010
>>587939364
lettuce...
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>>587936960
This is basically my position.
There is a lot of stuff like that when it comes to discussions online where people use a word to define the character rather than using the word to describe something about the character, which results on those disputes.

The statement "Sonic is cocky" is descriptive lyrics correct. But depending on the context can be contextually wrong or inacurate based on what the person believed that entails as a consequence when depicting or writing him.
Not everyone expresses every trait the exact same way, or for the same reasons or to the same extent, etc etc.
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>>587939364
Appreciated. For me I don't really have the patience if it gets around to people fighting about applying a specific word. The terminology doesn't matter as much, but I'm not going to repeat terms I don't see the same way. To my understanding budging on that would be it's own issue. All of the connotations of the disagreed word get added on top and suddenly it's cosigning other things.
I am never going to agree to call Sonic cocky.

Shadow. Friendship.
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A lot of people asking for Amy and Surge to be rivals don't seem to actually know what a rival is
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https://youtu.be/q6L-IDLZBM8
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>>587920945
wtf
https://twitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/363343473640226816
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>>587939853
I am a deceptively simple person. If you hate me then that's relatable, I also hate me. I only want people to like Shadow. Shadow is a beautiful character and he is cool and the best.
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I think you're a faggot.
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>>587940284
You're talking to a bipolar women who would hate your guts and call pitchforks on you if you get even the slightest thing "wrong" on your own fan content. I wouldn't bother with her if I were you.
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I thought Lettuce permanently dipped after Silver fans said he defends OOC writing
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>>587940284
>Shadow. Friendship.
KEK you did this on purpose
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Why do people even care about Modern Sonic anymore when it such fucking trash and beyond saving
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>>587940284
Yeah I get what you mean. Some people think you mean specific Sonic depictions when you say cocky. There's baggage attached to it. For example anon probably thinks you're cosigning Archie Sonic by not 100% condemning the c word. I think it depends on how the individual is perceiving the word cocky. Sonic is confident but he's not the type to be super egotistical where it isn't deserved.
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>>587938668
He used to
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>>587940809
I hate to break it to you, but Classic Sonic isn't getting much love either
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I'm so tired of twitter.
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>>587940191
A dog with a wingsuit(squirrel suit)
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>>587940919
Classic Sonic has way less problems to deal with
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>>587940284
>Shadow. Friendship.

You brave son of a bitch lmfao
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>>587940982
Sonic Team is its biggest problem. They simply cannot recreate the physics and have blundered constantly since trying to recapture it.
Mania was the last time Classic Sonic had a competent developer and they're not coming back any time soon.
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>>587939126
>Not what I meant.
It's exactly what you meant. The rest of your post is damage controlling hard and pedaling back.

>I just don't think I have the ability to change anyone else's mind on it in a debate at all
You're a coward. A pathetic squirmy faggot. You don't really care about Sonic enough to fight back all the Ian'nisms and SOA bullshit with butchering Sonic.

>>587940826
>>587939364
None of these posts are from Krack. I know her wording, this isn't her.
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>>587940519
Scribbles is trying his best so even if he makes a mistake I won't hate him. Everyone makes mistakes. It's different than purposely saying the existing characterizations suck.
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>>587935358
It has yet to be made I'm afraid.
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>>587940061
>Surge is not presented as a rival, but an actual enemy.
Define your distinction?
>What makes this different than anyone else fighting Surge and stopping her from crossing a line?
I did explain it.
It becomes personal because if their opposing values. Half of Surge's motivation is just proving Sonic's whole position and ideology wrong, but the issue is that its built off of ideology that doesnt really reflect his character or actions because Sonic isn't a redeemfag.
But Amy is! So Amy emphasizing that redeeming waa actually a good thing actually on top of being a Sonic glazer/apologist would have put them against eachother ina clean way.
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>>587940982
Ohnononono
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>>587941185
>than purposely saying the existing characterizations suck.
And no one is doing that. You purposely crashed into this thread with twitter screencaps and vomitted wall of words, then samereplied yourself and spammed hard after with /pol/tardism tranny shit.

You did all of this and more for a deluded scenery on your mind. Tell me how this isn't by all means a bipolar episode.
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>>587941436
Lettuce...
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>>587941348
Retard.
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All right, it's time to stop beating around the bush, Namefags!
What do (You) think of Memories and Beyond?
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>>587941149
If that's the case, then just like with you I already lost. I'm not too fussed about that.

I'd have to ask if you'd prefer it if I was more confrontational. I truly do not believe I would make much headway if I tried that.
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>>587941593
So why is it ok for Classic but not Modern?
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>>587941594
It is AI generated writing.
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>>587941646
One is a cartoon and the other is a gay furry.
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>>587941608
If you went full Randomfox it would be like if Batman started killing people. You're holding yourself back.
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>>587941646
>but not Modern?
He made the same faces too on X and a bit like that on Blade of Courage.
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>>587941721
I don't think I get it
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>>587941594
It shows Iizuka cannot be trusted with this franchise. He exacerbated Flynn's writing problems.
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>>587941594
I loved it. For me it marked the official end of the “shitty friends” era, and the fact that people are clowning it is very disheartening, almost like they want that back
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>>587941149
Idk why you guys keep trying to make me hate Scribbles. He puts effort into his content, he likes Maekawa, he portrays Shadow and Sonic well, he's a David Humphrey chad. There's nothing to hate.
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>>587940826
>you're cosigning Archie Sonic by not 100% condemning the c word.
That's correct though.
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>>587941594
I have a few gripes but overall I loved it.
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>>587941608
NTA but where do you stand then on what is correct? You just won't fight about it?
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>>587941828
it's as if the stoopid friends are actually stoopid
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>>587942083
You’re stoopid, and Sonic would hate you
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>>587941594
I think it's just another episode about sonic's friends sucking sonic's dick.
And that's it, i don't care much about who wrote it but the memes are still fun, nice to see metal in action though.
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>>587942129
Lettuce...
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Sonic is always with Link in these kinda line up pics
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>>587941842
>There's nothing to hate.
You would hate him if he changed his mind and decided to change all that to his liking. It's his material he makes, how ever he likes. He's making this for /sthg/ and him, not just for you and you only.

You have been seen before on Twitter going after people drawing fanart as they like because of skin color, mastectomy scars or just overall ship shit.

Your actions tell it all, your words mean nothing. You think the world revolves around you only.
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>>587942208
Namecalling your dead boogeymen won’t make you any less stoopid
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>Amy doesn't have aura
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>>587942228
>Getting my ass kicked in Smash...
>I'll treasure those Home-Run Bat hits forever
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>>587941490
Might as well namedrop all the trannies who blocked you there. :^)
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And i like 2D animation, if i owned a studio it would be 2D cartoons only even if it's super technological with computers and stuff.
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>>587941594
https://youtu.be/m6JzfmwFvS4?t=539

It is just this
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>>587942385
Amy has aura in her own way like being cute.
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>>587942070
I have absolutely 0 consideration for any western media being part of the characters' personalities. It's out of preference.
>You just won't fight about it
I don't think I can, convincingly.
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>>587941319
>Define your distinction? >>587940307 Having opposing values doesn't necessarily make two people rivals. Rivals are characters that compete against each other over the same goal.
What is Amy competing with Surge over? To simply defend Sonic or his nature against Surge does not make them rivals nor would Amy go out of her way to try and beat it into Surge that she should be glazing Sonic. Amy is like Sonic in the sense that neither should be pressing Surge to conform (and Amy doesn't do that, she only supports an endeavor Surge came to herself) and instead would encourage Surge to be herself, in whatever way that manifests. That doesn't mean they won't stop her if it gets out of control, but again, that's not something specific to either Sonic or Amy.
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>Americans wake up
>Thread instantly goes to shit
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>>587942385
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>>587942690
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>>587942680
Americans only know how to ruin stuff
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>>587942317
...If he decided Maekawa's Sonic and Shadow characterizations were shit and I was shit for liking them and also Sonic should canonically be black and a troon and gay for Shadow, I would be disappointed. He doesn't do that because he likes Sonic. I like people who like Sonic. Person likes Sonic = I like person.
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>>587942385
Amy is cute and cool!
https://youtu.be/on9-AK44nCE
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>>587941594
I liked it, but the emotional payoff felt kind of undeserved. Like it was the finale to a grand adventure we never got to see.
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:D
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>>587942690
What about the badniks from the Sidney show, Front & Center?
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>>587942680
It at least makes it obvious who's doing it. Fuckers wake up and the literal first thing they do is start shitposting on 4chan. Crazy.
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>>587942690
>IDW
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oh so the anon spamming about "krack simps" was fucking lettuce the entire time
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>>587942985
Not surprised.
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'lettuce' never speak of this thread again.
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>>587942798
Every modern product is fafected by this, you can see the fast pacing even in unrelated stuff like GLITCH with people already going through therapy moments with no previous build up.

It's so stupid how every creative out there is one giant twitterfag hivemind.
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>>587942985
>>587943115
Who are you trying to fool with this wording changing and samefagging?
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>>587942985
Am surprised. I thought his whole thing was just IDW Sonic and Whispangle.
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>>587942680
On /v/ is usually the contrary.
EU hours tend to be more hostile not even in a understandable way, just hostile for being hostile.
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>>587943159
fuck off lettuce
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>>587937153

>>587940061
>>587940307
I'm on to you, Evan
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>>587943160
Yeah, he hates everyone who doesn't worship idw
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>>587942656
I think anon has a point even if he's being an asshole. You, objectively, show the ability to describe the Japanese characterizations accurately but choose not to argue about it. You say you wouldn't be good at doing that but it just sounds more like you don't want to be involved.
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>>587942985
Who else is bush attacking chuds on the internet relentlessly outside of projecting homosexuals in a moral crusade (whenever they don't draw rape porn)?
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>>587942660
Sonic and Knuckles are rivals because they like to competitively show off their strengths
Sonic and Shadow are rivals because they like proving who's better, Shadow in particular does it to prove his way of doing things is best and Sonic leans into it because he's competitive in general.
Sonic and Jet are rivals because they're competitive over speed.

In all of Surge and Amy's interactions with each other thus far, Amy has not goaded Surge into anything and that's deliberate because she's kind, patient and understanding of her situation without deliberately trying to press her buttons and encourages Surge to do what she wants. I actually don't think she would stop Surge from coming after Sonic and would rather believe in Sonic to come out on top and handle it.
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>>587941594
It's... fine. I like some things about it and I genuinely hate some things about it. I walked away with completely mixed feelings and I'll probably never watch it again.
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>>587943208
It's barely past noon on a Sunday on the east coast. Most Americans are probably at church or having breakfast or still in bed. Anyone blaming whatever is happening on Americans instead of Euroids is just falseflagging.
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She has been on here since around 5AM just calling out namefags and making schizo theories.
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>>587943393
If he got involved you'd treat him exactly like you treat krack
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>>587937153
Well Kyle still scouts chan to report his filtered findings to Ian.
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trendy hard-to-watch battle scenes?
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>>587942790
>If he decided Maekawa's Sonic and Shadow characterizations were shit
Never said that.

>and I was shit for liking them
Never said that.

>and also Sonic should canonically be black and a troon and gay for Shadow
Never said that.

This is what I mean. You're this much of a narcissistic to think everyone around you is like your imagined enemy. You're completely obsessed and all you do is resort to your usual parroting shit.

>He doesn't do that because he likes Sonic.
You don't know who he is. You never talked to him.

>I would be disappointed.
About time, something honest coming from you. Refreshing. This is what I'm trying to point, you being a elitist to others because they do or would do something on fan content you don't like.

You hardly like him as who he is. You like him because he makes content that happens to be your liking, not because you actually know and likes him as a person who wants to do what he wants to do and support him no matter what. This is why I stopped liking you.
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>>587942660
I feel like youre using a very narrow definition of the term Rival then. I see the utility in doing that, but I dont really see the point in this specific context because it feels like arguing over entitlement over a "title" rather than engaging with the substance of the point of conversation.

Amy and Surge, given their characters, would make great complementary longterm adversarial foils for one another.

Whether you wanna get pedantic about whether that fits your definition of what a "rival" is is largely besides the point to me.

Is Metal not a rival then? He fights Sonic to proce he is the real Sonic. But Sonic himself doesn't take that aspect seriously and just humors Metal's honest attempts to outdo him.
Shadow and Sonic have an unspoken deal about who is top hedgehog/ULF/whatever. Based on your previous post, you dont feel this has substance either.
Knuckles and Sonic only really fought because Knuckles got tricked. Other than that, they are more friends that beef and give eachother shit but still have eachother's back.

By your definition, Jet is technically the only real rival Sonic wver really had since they compete over the title of Fastest in the universe and wind master etc.
Sure, I agree. I think Jet is uhderrated in that respect.
Is this distinction even meaningful or useful anymore tho at this point beyond being a rhetorical deflection though?
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>>587943674
Are you a purist?
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I played Marathon Recompiled a lot today, it was fun :)
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>>587943394
Stop self-replying
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>>587931497
For what it's worth, I had ChatGPT estimate a rough caloric intake range for someone roughly 2.5-3' in height and it's honestly not far off. Depends on if you take AI at its word/calculations, though.
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my pussy stinks
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>>587943790
>Having fun with 06
Impossible...
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>>587943814
End your life, rapist dipshit.
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>>587943617
Driving this bus into SEGA HQ
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>>587943409
>In all of Surge and Amy's interactions with each other thus far, Amy has not goaded Surge into anything and that's deliberate because she's kind, patient and understanding of her situation without deliberately trying to press her buttons and encourages Surge to do what she wants.
So does Sonic tho. With all the aforementioned characters. It weirdly sounds like youre saying Amy can't have a rival in general because she is a nice person. Amy is also a competitive person.
>I actually don't think she would stop Surge from coming after Sonic and would rather believe in Sonic to come out on top and handle it.
Weird take. Amy would definitely try to stop her. She is a proactive person.
"A girl who doesnt wait"
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>>587937153
>high-level fans
You already said employees
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>>587942790
0 ounce of self-awareness, jesus fucking christ krack
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>>587943876
Surge...
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Someone clearly from here has been in /v/ for the past day ranting and samefagging himself about the face and everyone is just making fun of him lmao.
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>>587943897
I had a great time, got a new high score on one of my favorite stages
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>>587936960
Arguing with Archiefags is a waste of time. You're better off this way.
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I fucking HATE my friends
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>>587943676
>Metal
>Shadow
>Knuckles
All of them are rivals because Sonic himself leans into it by nature of his natural competitive spirit. It's in Sonic's personality to rise to challenge and as such, he natural compete over something with all of them regardless of which side takes things more seriously than him.
This just doesn't happen with Amy though. Amy's relationship with Surge is actually more akin to her relationship with Metal in Mania Adventure. Acknowledging the bad while still trying to help out.
You are correct that redeeming is Amy's thing more than Sonic's, but that exactly why her relationship doesn't tread into rivalry with Surge. She doesn't see a need to compete with Surge over anything, she just wants to help. If they end up fighting, it's not because Amy wants to, it's because it came down to that and by then, that's still not a rivalry, that's an enemy.
Parallels and foils doesn't necessarily make a rivalry. They're foils to each other, but foils in a way that makes things lopsided toward Amy because she's not going to deliberately antagonize if there's another option.
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>>587944071
Stop botting.
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>>587942385
She has it
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>>587944059
Good for you then, anon.
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>>587944192
I hate glossy eyes
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>>587944217
Thanks :)
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Just so you guys know IAN FLYNN HAS BEEN DEAD EVER SINCE A.I. HAS TAKEN OVER HIS JOB, SEGA AND IDW ARE LITERALLY, L I T E R A L L Y USING A DEAD MAN'S NAME TO COVER THE FACT THAT THEY'RE USING A.I. BUT ONE DAY THE TRUTH WILL BE KNOWN, I'M ONTO THEM, IIZUKA IS NEXT, THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE SONIC TEAM INTO SLOPNIC TEAM AND THEN THE WIDER INDUSTRY IS NEXT IF NOT ALREADY, AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIE have a nice day.
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>>587943576
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>>587943902
Not your boogeyman
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>Knuckles
>Rival
Cmon
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is this india? why are we in the middle of a shit throwing contest? Get real.
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>>587944330
That’s cute as shit, thanks!
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>>587943750
I eat healthy, my bowels and stomach are pure yes.
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>>587944137
Just because Tails has autism doesn't mean you have to hate everyone.
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>>587943956
>Amy would definitely try to stop her. She is a proactive person.
I think you misunderstand. If Surge decided that her lifelong mission is to put Sonic 6ft under and there's nothing Amy can say or do to change that, Amy would back off on trying to redeem her and respect this is Surge's choice in the end. That doesn't mean she won't fight Surge when it comes down to it, but that's not a rivalry, Surge becomes a common enemy for everyone in this case no different from Metal.
Metal in particular is still a rival for Sonic despite being everyone's enemy because they have specific traits to them that they compete over. Which means in Surge's case, there still a much higher argument for her being a Sonic rival than ever being Amy's.
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>>587944428
I wish these shitposts were just pajeets trying to click farm. Unfortunately it's the known suspects all having a melty at each other at the expense of everyone else.
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>>587943674
Not her but I'm confused what your point is
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>>587943674
I'm not sure why you're angry that I don't dislike him. I recognize when he posts anonymously, I think he has a nice personality, and I respect the way he tries his best to learn about the franchise. Even if he ended up having a take I disagreed with, it'd be okay because I know he isn't trying to get rid of things that mean a lot to me.
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>>587944164
>All of them are rivals because Sonic himself leans into it by nature of his natural competitive spirit
...by this logic, the same applies to Amy. She is also competitive.
I dont know where you got the impression otherwise.
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When are we getting a (real) Sonic game with online multiplayer
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>IDW Sonic slowly replacing canon sonic
lmaooooooo
Bravo SOA
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>>587933159
I guess even in the same language some things are more offensive indifferent regions too, like how the words "bugger" and "spastic" are perceived innocuously in America but in the UK they're treated as slurs, or how a UK person would say "cunt" and "mate" and an American would be put off
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>>587944046
Temporaly banned anon here.
Checking da current thread on /v/ and it seems more like a mixture of clueless anons thinking there's nothing wrong with sonic on the short, sonicfag haters and the samefag i mentioned earlier >>587933315.
The past 2 threads we're not like this at all and we're actually chill so i guess someone got triggered by the face edits.
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>>587944607
Sanic Robo Blast 2, bro?
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>>587944537
amazing, see you next week then
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Aurails
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>>587944607
Arena fighting game soon
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>>587944554
Krack never cared about Scribbles, still doesn't but pretends to do only because Scribbles happens to want to make game characters like game characters even if he's a everythingfag. Krack never cared about /sthg/ culture, only spam fujo shit and try bringing off-site drama.
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>>587944695
It's alright
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>>587944757
>Krack likes Scribbles because he makes the game characters act like the game characters which is the worst thing ever
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>>587944273
You too huh

>>587944607
Small japanese indie company please understand
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>>587944757
So you're mad at Scribbles for not partaking in character arguments and Krack for partaking in them?
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Purity testing on a 4chan general has got to be one of the most autistic things you guys do on here. I assume it's all just bait but some of you make me wonder.
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>>587944607
2007
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>>587944898
Not what I mean and you're being disingenuous.

>>587944925
Confusing me for someone else.
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>>587944757
here we have it, the hate for krack always boils down to disliking archie or idw
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>>587942690
These Amy rankings are acceptable.
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>>587945148
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>>587945148
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>>587945076
Are you actually a bot that replies just on chosen few words?
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>>587941149
I think his issue is that as a person who made a Shadally gag comic he wouldn't be in the position to tell people off about characterization
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>>587944513
>If Surge decided that her lifelong mission is to put Sonic 6ft under and there's nothing Amy can say or do to change that, Amy would back off on trying to redeem her and respect this is Surge's choice in the end.
I actually disagree. I dont see her accepting this is her choice being mutually exclusive from her thinking she cam be redeemed.

I think you are the one who might have misunderstood here. The rivalry isnt over specifically redeeming Surge. Its over whether or not redeemfagging is valid in general.
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>>587944580
>I dont know where you got the impression otherwise.
She's not competitive in the same way Sonic is. There's a reason why their approaches to helping others does not come out the same way. Sonic typically goes straight into duking it out, having fun poking buttons before talking anything out, Amy is the opposite. She's not going to try and press the buttons of someone she's actively helping and is sympathetic to and that's why you're failing to realize that this hypothetical Surge and Amy rivalry doesn't happen.
Even in the 2000s, this doesn't happen. It's why some cases Amy doesn't hesitate to lay ass on someone putting their hands on her darling Sonic and why in other cases, she does all she can to help someone despite her having every reason to rival against (like Elise liking Sonic too in 06)
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>>587944730
Yeah Tails has Aura with this. He was cool.
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>>587944607
Why would you even think that would be a good idea?
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>>587944569
>I'm not sure why you're angry that I don't dislike him
I never said that either. You're really not doing a lot of favors yourself with your non-stop projecting.
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>>587944508
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>>587944137
That's my Windnic
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>>587925216
It is.
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>>587944607
MMORPG to groom others in soon
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>>587933461
Oh, I'm sorry, I missed this earlier. Thank you, that just made my day!



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