Lü Bu is coming
>>2188788>wasting dubs on this rancid dogshit
A thread died for this singular announcement.That makes this thread based and eligible for receiving the mandate of heaven.
>>2189088It's also supposed to be the not!general thread
I would just like to say that I fucking called it being Lu Bu back when they first announced a new chinese hero
>>2193056It was a fairly safe bet but congrats anyways. I myself called Sohei a few months in advance
>>2188788What DW is this? Is this like DW15 or something?
>>2194338To be fair mid lane kind of is DW in a can
>>2188788>DubsWE ARE INVINCIBLE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iX0aiIcYls The official trailer
>>2193056Literally everyone called that, and the fact that virt was female after the previous hero was also female cemented that fact
So is he a heavy or a hybrid?
>>2193056is Lu Bu like a real guy or something?
>>2197436Every character in RoTK is a real person, just very embellished in the same way various major figures of Japan's warring states period or America's wild west were.
>>2188788they already gave the fat jap an OHKO what could they possibly give lu bu to make him feel more broken
>>2198336If you purse him you dieIf he's on your team it'll be a 5 v 3
>>2188788Do not pursue
If they don't break the alternating faction pattern then it looks like we're getting male knight a year from now
>>2199229>kn*ght
>>2199276I almost missed you
>>2199281You're confusing me with the retard, I'm the China guy.
His feats look really funny but for honor players are retarded so it's going to be insufferable having him on your team
>>2199293>can clear his own minion lane>actively benefits from fucking over his own team>feats 2 and 4 are big fat "fuck you team" buttons.
Lmao people are going to be throwing games with his feats.Ultimate troll character
Community Corner is so awkward.
Suck it pasta whore
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Thank you screenshot Anon I couldn't bring myself to sit through that after they finished showing Lu Bu
Who here buyin' the merch?https://kidkatana.com/shop/for-honor
>>2199835I don't really like this game's ost
>>2197436He was a real person who played a crucial role in the Three Kingdoms period of Chinese historyhe's like a minor deity of both spear combat and cavalrybtw Jiang Jun is also literally just the real life person Guan Yu (whose famously heavy glaive, the Guan Dao is what JJ uses) who was one of the most important heroes of the Three Kingdoms periodpic related is Guan Yu
>>2199527fuck yeahstupid faggot bitch>>2199530good changesnow just make pommel strike usable in all 3 directions>>2199533giving Gryphon more anti-ganking tools that don't affect his 1v1 strength is goodgiving Ocelotl hyperarmor on his stance attack (which is the only one he has) is good because sometimes I wonder what the point of his stance even is>>2199540warmonger needed to lose the medium hit reaction because of how it interacted with ledgingbut she did not need her quick bash followup to chain into her hyperarmor heavy finishersvalk change is whatevershaolin change is not really necessary, but it's pretty minor so w/e
>>2199965>>2197436also a defining characteristic of Lu Bu was that he would betray people, but because he was such a combat god, people would take him into their service anyway even though they knew hed probably betray them at some pointthats why the new character's feats are all about throwing your allies under the bus
They nerfed Virtuosa into the ground and this game is now unplayable.
>>2201952Kill all italians
more like cindy lu bu, more like lu who. lmao got em. cultivate this and court death
>>2199540blink is such horseshit to dodge even if you predict it 7 years in advance I've been mid roll sometimes and it ends my roll animation to cut to me getting kicked in the asshole that move has to just be bugged
Juren lookin like straight cancer we will NOT be there on release [100 emoji] [100 emoji]
Funniest character when I'm playing him and most cancerous character when my teammate is playing him award
>>2199527Holy shit I can play this game again
Nice! my top 3 mains all got buffed and Ocelotl>WarmongerI would have preferred being able to bash after a heavy but really interested to see how WM plays now she can light bash light bash >Gryphon Chain extender is nice with some antigank versatility>ValkUndoing one of her rework nerfs. Will have to see if it actually does much>OcelotlI have wanted this for so long. Stance has dodge properties on start up and I use it quite often. Now I can at least trade or jump into a fight and spam hyperarmor zones
>>2202808>see how WM plays now she can light bash light bashno no it's just that her basic bash followup now chains to her finisher heavyWM doesn't have finisher lightsso basically now what will happen is>neutral or side bash (uncharged) > followup light > finisher heavyinstead of just stopping after the lightat least thats how I understand this
>>2202821Maybe I got it all wrong but I swear JC said something about looping into bash like waden saying WM now has a 'vortex'
>>2202945then JC is a retard who messed up his barebones powerpoint
>>2202821Just double checked WM doesn't have chain finisher lights but preying claw stab will now chain into an enhanced light which can chain into preying claw again. So light bash light light bash
there are cheaters playing this gamereport them for itthey do eventually get banned
Playing this game while rusty is so brutal. I'm losing almost every fight
>>2199527>stance drains staminathis should be applied to all full blocksI dont understand how that fat retarded faggot JC doesnt understand that these are the same thing>virtuousa standing still drains stamina>kyoshin waving his weapon around like a retard doesnt drain staminabravo you worthless frog
>>2206644because virtuosa stance dodges EVERYTHING all other fullblocks are effected by bashes, unblockables, projectiles and feats
>>2206861they should all still drain staminajust make Virtuosa's drain it fastera BP will just sit in his stance forever, and just be perfectly safe by throwing out his UB and feinting it
>new hero>chinese
>>2207591as much as I hate the CCP, it is certainly true that China is one of the great civilizations of human historyfigures like Guan Yu, Cao Cao, and Lu Bu are genuinely cool to learn aboutthe only knight I want at this point is a Landsknecht (specifically a dopplesoldner with a zweihander)
>>2207591I mean there's only so many variants of medieval knights they can use.
>>2207984Knights have two romans and a guy cosplaying as everything other than knights clogging up their roster. There's plenty they could do
>>2208430Yes such as more chinese warriors.
This is probably one of the only few things keeping ubislop alive, huh.
>>2209602It seems to be turning a profit on a shoestring budget
>>2208430landsknecht hero...
wtf wtf Lu Bu is really fun
yeah im adding this chinese faggot on my no-fight list
>>2212234Are there any characters that are not on it?
>>2212235wym the only ones on it are>virtuosa>beserker>raider>warlord>valk>shaman>hammer fuck>shinobi>orochi>single sword ronin dude>axe samurai>all the chinese>all the 4th faction
>>2212254whoops forgot shugoki too
I posted one of our two threads of the year on /v/
>>2212254So you just quit the game if the enemy team has someone who isn't a knight?
so what does the newest wulin do, win when chosen at the selection screen because of his impeccable social credit score?
>>2212606If you pursue him you loseIf he's on your team you lose, he still wins however
wait why is Virtuosa not a Knight character, but Grphon is??????
>>2212911Virtuosa isn't a knight because in the lore she disagrees with their philosophy (lol, lmao). There is no real justification for Gryphon being a knight.
The only outlander I want is a not!Conan
>>2212962bro, your highlander?he has an armor set type with a Conan-style belt
>>2199530Oh shit kensei buffs
>>2212911The Outlanders idea came later
>installed the game after a while again>play 2 matches>remember why I quit last time
>>2213687this finna be me in 2 hours no cap
>>2212606can infinitely chain basic lights, heavies, and chain bashesbut he also has charge versions of literally every move, including a charged GB (a grab)charged moves end the chainhe has a lot of neutral 100ms hyperarmor
>lu bu's chain bash animation has a special variation if you do it on khatunWtf sovl
>>2212967Corporate wants you to find the difference between these two pictures
>>2214308>load into first breach match getting spawncamped by the enemy (j*ang j*n and 3x new aids hero)never change you piece of shit
>>2214710where is his Atlantean sword
>>2212606hyperarmor spamunblockable with a massive hitbox spamthats about it
IT IS WORTH POINTING OUTone of Juren's T2 options is Thick Skin, which is otherwise only ever available to more "nimble" characters like Peacekeeper, Shaolin, and Zhanhu (and VG also has it)but he's the first character with this feat who has hyperarmor, let alone this much hyperarmorif you want to trade like crazy and anti-gank, then Thick Skin is probably a better choice than No Friend of Minehis T3 is genuinely amazing thougha passive that automatically buffs you when allies are dead is a great tool
a Juren with 3 dead teammates is unkillable if people are trying to gank him>is constantly healing with the T3 feat every time he lands an attack>every time he gets revenge he heals 40 HP from Thrilling ComebackI just watched a guy stall the entire enemy team for 5+ minutes
>>2212542in team modes I avoid fighting them 1v1, or just stall till allies get closein duels, I give them a free win or if they refuse to, I just pull the cable
People called medjay for having gigantic hitboxes and hyperarmor out the assJuren is like that but half the moves are unblockables on top of that
>>2216858*called medjay overpowered
>>2215959His t4 slot is pretty sad though. His unique is very situational and the other options are arrow storm *gags* and regenerate *retches*. His unique is actually really, really bad if you're defending in breach
this chinese faggot's animations are so spastic its an eyesore to fight
Ubisoft is waaaaaay too fucking incompetent to pull it off, but can you imagine a For Honor action RPG?>can find / unlock different types of weapons>can unlock different moves for those weapons so that are pulled from different character's movesetsLike you could have a "polearm" weapon class, and could learn moves from Sohei, Lawbringer, Jiang Jun, Nobushi, etc. >moves take up resources for a loadout>the more properites a move has, the more resources it takes up>over the course of the game you unlock a greater capacity for more moves with more propertiessomething like that
>>2217159A ubislop RPG? Rather not see it.We either getting a far cry or an assassins creed shadows, or both. Neither is a good thought.
I'm pretty sure the opener heavy that acts as a throw is unblockable for some reason. It constantly ghosts through my guard.
>>2217409like I said, they're too incompetent and frankly they have shit taste as well
before Juren there were 3 characters with extended dodges in the game>Jiang Jun - 900ms - 22 damage (large sweeping hitbox)>Warmonger - 900ms - 24 damage unblockable (small hitbox)>Tiandi - 1100ms - 25 damage (small hitbox)but for some reason Juren has a weird unique timing on his and an unfortunate (for everyone else) hitbox and property pairing>Juren - 866ms - 22 damage unblockable (large sweeping hitbox)I don't know what the purpose of his dodge attack being 33ms faster than Warmonger and JJ (the most closely comparable)and the fact that it's unblockable and has a large sweeping hitbox is some unprecedented strengththis makes him a MONSTER in crowded teamfights because the only way to properly punish this move is with a GB (good luck getting off a GB while antiganking, unlike with parrying where the enemy has to be patient or risk getting caught in a multi-parry chain)he can pretty safely spam this while target swapping and dish out tons of nigh-unavoidable damage to multiple foeseven if you parry it, it only nets a heavy parry punishif Ubisoft wants him to keep this hitbox and keep the move unblockable, then they need to nerf the damage down to something like 19 or 20
the fastest ki8lling universal execution is the That's Cannon, which kills in 2200ms and lasts7800msanything faster than 2200ms is automatically a unique strength, and having perks or feats that can boost that strength are worth speculating on***this is only for 50 HP executions, which are the only ones that really matterif an Orochi gets a kill in a teamfight, they can heal themselves 105 HP often before anyone can stop them
Was conq nerfed to shit or something? I haven't played in years and his impact is not as strong.
the unblockable zone is insane but people should be catching it way more, it should not work as often as it does especially in 1v1s
>>2220426Have you played post rework? He got a rework at one point that completely changed how he plays, namely giving him an infinite unblockable chain and lots of soft feints>>2220824people aren't used to his animations yet so when you see an unblockable you're thinking>okay this his zone?>is this his dodge attack?>is this his neutral heavy?>is this his chain heavy?and yeah, you could say people are dumb for mixing up his zone and chain heavybut you see that zone and think SURELY this is a feintable moveand people are also getting caught up by the timing as wellpeople dont realize how fucking slow it is
>it's a teammate is ignoring the ram, rampart, banner, killing the enemy team, saving allies from ganks, and picking up boosts to soften up the guardian before the enemies steal that kill episode
>>2222552>playing breach at allfirst mistake
>>2222881It wouldn't be so bad if the people who play this game weren't so unfathomably retarded.
>>2222895I think it's just a fundamentally anti-casual gamemodewhose going to win this 45 minute long match is genuinely decided during the first 5 minutes in 90% of matches
does juren have any voice lines at all or is it just retard growls
>>2223288According the Chinese players his Chinese is fucked up.
>>2223288?have you played the game since the update?he's constantly shouting shit in chinesenow maybe chinese sounds like retarded growling to you
move Gryphon and Warmonger to the Outlanders factionthat frees up two Knight slotsnow they can add Hoplite and Landsknecht
>>2225927>Hoplite>landsknect>knights
people hate the 400ms lights on highlanderI would like to see the following changes>side offensive stance light attacks are now 600ms undodgeable "zone" attacks >top offensive stance light attack remains unchangedand give him the following extra move>neutral 433ms bash that doesn't confirm any damage, but fast flows to offensive stance with frame advantageoh and fix the hyperarmor timing on his neutral heavieshe currently only has a 100ms window of hyperarmor>>2226059>centurion>gladiator>knights
>>2226073I agree, Centurion and Gladiator should also be outlanders
>>2226073Offensive form lights just need to not be enhanced. That's it, that's the only change that needs to be made, neutral bashes can't be faster than 600ms for obvious reasons nor does Highlander need one since they can flow to offensive form easily.
>>2226485>neutral bashes can't be faster than 600ms for obvious reasonsam I misreading or misunderstanding what you're saying?because that just sounds like a straight up lie>Centurion>Tiandi>Orochi>Sohei>Gladiator>Gryphon>Shaolin>Lawbringer>Jiang Jun>Black Prior>Medjay>Shinobi>Jormungandr>Warlord>Zhanhu>Juren>Ocelotl>Conqueror>Varangian Guard>Virtuosa>Kyoshinall have 433ms bashes you fucking liarstop fucking lyingHighlander has almost zero viable openershis only opening tool is his zone and it's not a super great opener at that>Ubisoft are retarded fags who fucked up his neutral heavy hyperarmor frames so those are out>Celtic Curse is just straight up reactable so it can't be used to open on opponents that aren't lethargic retards>light attacks just parried because what else is Highlander going to open with? well it's not his zone so it must be a light>just holding heavy to manually flow to OS just gets you GBdgiving him a bash that doesn't net any damage and fast flows would be a balanced way of giving him an openerHighlander has PLENTY of trading tools and defensive tools, but if you just STARE at him there isn't really much he can do about it
>>2227639>am I misreading or misunderstanding what you're saying?Yes you're confusing forward dodge bashes which have input delays of 100ms to 300ms with neutral bashes of which only: gladiator, afeera, virtuosa, black prior, and shugoki have. Shaolin, Virtuosa and Highlander have 500ms neutral bashes from stance only.They can't be faster than 600ms because of frame advantage.
>guy just casually parries every light without mistakeyep, thats a disconnect
>>2229653please remember to reportthey will eventually get banned... eventually
>>2229655oh im sure they werent cheating, im just not dealing with these sweats
>>2229668report them anyway
if a team has a highlander, im out
>>2229669I do this because i'm a petty faggot. I report for offensive emblems, quite often I will get the "thanks we have acted on your report" pop up when I log in. Then I see trannies seething on reddit because their emblems got wiped
>>2230269sorry brorule of cool says that I am required to play the giant sword guy
Juren is the best Dom hero overall, at least for big brawly team fights>hyperarmor spam>planet sized hitboxes>shit ton of sweeping unblockables to external with>T3 that passively turns him into a god so he can stall like crazy while still being offensive>retardedly good at minion clear where he takes out half of the minions with his initial sprint attack>140 HP>full block but just so he can block externalsit seems the only thing they DIDNT give him was heavy perks
I can't even fucking block lights anymore it's never been this over for me
do you try to recreate characters from other media /fhg/?
>reporting every taunt spammer for griefing because I know ubi sissies would unironically punish someone for that
>>2234188not reallythe customization is too limited to faithfully recreate anyone unless your hero is already inspired by them or closely relatedthough I would like to see someone make a White Beard out of Jiang Jun
>Kyoshin's stance still doesn't drain stamina>he just sits there in a gank not having to think at all>if you clip his guard you are now subject to a 2s pin that stacks bleednigger devs
is the game still on a skeleton crew? i left when we lost cool animations on killing grunts.
>>2235269p much
>>2235269It's less skeleton than before but still skeleton
>>2234380>just recieved a message that the user was in breach of TOS and has been punishedlmao
>try to 1v1 a Juren>get option selectedyeah
>nobushi still gets 35 damage undodgeable heavies
This game would be significantly more fun if it was a hard rule that you are never allowed to cancel the recovery of an unblockable attack under any circumstances.>try to dodge attack the Juren's unblockable dodge attack>he just goes full block and just takes chip damage insteador>perfectly space a BP's unblockable heavy>they cancel the recovery with a flip and get to punish your punish>there is no alternative because you arent able to GB if you're away from the BPor>roach lets their unblockable fly and you now have to make a second and third read on not only will they dodge recovery cancel or not but also on whether or not they will cancel the recovery with an empty dodge or a dodge attackit's just not fun to play against
>>2236650>there is no alternative because you arent able to GB if you're away from the BPYou shouldn't go for a GB anyway since the heavy is a chain starter
>>2235269>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQc14LqIVqU>mfw it's been 7 fucking years since the desoulification of the minion lane
The devs need to address how dogshit GBs are in teamfightsBecause these retarded French negroids keep designing moves / situations that are only punishable by GB>two virtuosa's are ganking you>if you try to GB either of them, the other just hits you with a heavy attack so are never allowed to punish the GB without trading (and usually you cant even trade, but instead just get hit out of your punish)it's just retardedlanding a GB needs to instantly grant you like 80% base damage reduction (which can be further augmented multiplicatively with anti-gank DR as well as feat DR)this wouldn't affect duels at all since if youve landed a GB in a duel, then your opponent cant attack you anyway
>>2237399I'm going to say it, the old minions looked better.
>>2239191Old for honor looked better>minions with faces covered>heroes with faces covered>no oc donutsteels in the roster>top quality mo-cap animations>actual exections instead of wacky fortnite looney tunes shit>actual lighting and weather effectsNothing ever gets better in this torture dimension it only gets worse, stagnation and decay is our only fate
ran into a lawtard turtling like it was 2017 today. I'm so glad the CCU fixed the game
it's still impossible to get revenge against anyone who is in a queue together
If your character doesn't have Flesh Wound or Thick Skin you should probably just kill yourself now
juren is just good at everything
4 jurens just spamming the kick at you while youre in revenge will stunlock you and also melt your HP>yeah let's add a damaging pinning bash that chains into itselfabsurd
>>2241026actually let me append thatif you don't have easy access to frequent damage reduction, then you're fucked (when getting ganked at least)>Thick Skin (25% DR for 3 seconds after getting hit)>Flesh Wound (20% DR for 3 seconds after getting hit)>Righteous Deflection (50% DR for 5 seconds after parrying an attack)>VG gets 50% DR for 5 seconds every time she blocks an attack with her full blockwith the caveat that you might not need the DR if you have easy access to frequent healing, which is harder to come by except on a small handful of charactersbut holy shit if you have NEITHER then you're just fuckedunless the people ganking you are just retarded, you just wont survive the damage you take from the gank setups people can still do>oh boy I got revenge with 15 HP left again>the enemies all just instantly roll 20 feet away>my character doesn't have good chase>revenge ends without dealing any damage>dieI justfuck manit's so frustrating
Sorry guys remember the giant obese retard said game knowledge is fasle depth so you better buy Juren.
>>2243500but I don't want to be chinese!!!!!NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LIST OF CHANGES THAT WOULD SAVE CASUAL DOMINION>add an HP damage dealt column to the scoreboard (so that you can tell if someone is dealing lots of damage, but getting cucked out of kills)*damage dealt to shields does NOT count>add a revenge points given column (so you can more easily discern who is throwing or otherwise doesn't know how to gank)Ubi would never dream of adding this though>make it so that the entire team progresses their feats based off of a shared renown pool (stalling 3 enemies while not on an objective doesn't give you any renown, but is EXTREMELY strategically for winning a match)>make it so that if your revenge meter is over 50% full, the progress becomes invisible to enemies so they don't know exactly how close you areidea stolen from Slanderous
>>2244494>>add an HP damage dealt column to the scoreboard (so that you can tell if someone is dealing lots of damage, but getting cucked out of kills)Useless metric in this game since damage doesn't correlate to anything. In OW, for example, being able to see damage and healing dealt lets you track ult charge. >>add a revenge points given column (so you can more easily discern who is throwing or otherwise doesn't know how to gank)You don't need this since you can visually see revenge meters and it's easy to discern who feeds. >make it so that the entire team progresses their feats based off of a shared renown poolNo, since that would lead to huge snowballing, especially when it comes to whomever controls the minion lane.
>>2244745>useless metricit's no more useless than the arbitrary rules for what counts as an "elimination">if youve touched an enemy within 5 seconds of their death, it counts as an elimso you get retards running over to an enemy that you are about to kill and then get into a single bash, accomplishing nothing, just so they can get an elimor hell>did you apply a shield to someone?>okay well now any kills they get while that shield is active will grant you an eilmit's just sillya damage dealt column would at least show who is actually contributing
>Shaman, a lightweight "assassin", gets Flesh Wound>Jurean, a heavy as shit "hybrid", gets Thick Skin (which is just Flesh Wound but better)hmmmmmmm
>>2188788Literal who
Here's a small thing that confuses me about Kensei, kit design wiseSo if you get a heavy parry you can punish with 3 things>zone>neutral light>forward dodge light attackhere's the thingthe neutral light deals 12 damage and only chains into chain moves, not finisher movesmeanwhile the forward dodge light deals 14 damage and chains directly to finishersboth the neutral light and the forward dodge light attack consume 9 staminajust kind of weirdthere is seemingly zero reason to ever punish a heavy parry with a neutral lightat least the zone has a purpose after heavy parry for anti-ganking
They banned quick chats unless you age verify in the UK.You'll start seeing a bunch of muted chat symbols by names lol.
>>2248680>can't spam Wow! anymoreThanks!Thanks!Thanks!
Lawbringer is such a fucking shore to fight.
Orochi's kick animation is so fucking garbage.
>>2250893yepdont you love that EVERY attack he throws is inherently followed by a 50/50 on whether hes going to immediately chain bash or not
Juren's unblockable dodge attack needs to be slowed downit's currently 866ms while Warmonger and JJ's are both 900msTiandi's is 1100msI'd be in favor of slowing Juren's all the way down to 1000ms, given its properties and hitboxgive it extra i-frames to compensate if you must, but the gap between his regular side dodge attacks and his charged side dodge attacks is so small that you have to make a double read literally every time you force him to make a read
>>2254381Cool post but to nerf Lu Bu would be to pursue him...
This game looks like such an impossible grind. Fastest way to hitting rep just for fashion gameplay.
>>2254773Do your orders, play Breach vs AI
there is no making a "read" when dueling a Jurenthere is only blind guessworkthis nigger character chains directly into>a quick chain bash>a charge bash>unblockable heavy>undodgable light>hyperarmor chain heavyJesus fucking Christyou are just so fucked when fighting this guyif you arent a reaction god where you can just react to what he does, you're just doomed to gamble everytime he leaves neutralFUCK
>>2254773pick 3 or 4 characters to try to mainpreferably with each being a different """clas"""and each being from a different factionthis is because there are orders which require>play as a certain "class">play as a certain faction>play as 4 different heroes across matchesand similar little semi-daily challengesyoull get more steel (the currency) this wayso you'd want something like>Kensei (Vanguard and Samurai)>Highlander (Hybrid and Viking)>Conqueror (Heavy and Knight)>Nuxia (Assassin and Wu Lin)but that's restricting your choice in who you play a lot for a small amount of extra steel
I wish they'd go the CS route of removing backfill botsthat is to say they should remove bots and instead give the smaller team a strategic bonus based on the number of missing playerssomething like>faster renown gain>faster objective capture speed>lower respawn cooldownsomething like thatanything would be preferable to bots who exist as nothing more than Revenge and Renown dispensaries for the enemy team
i stopped playing this game when they removed the unique minion kill animations each hero had. they said it was because it wasnt fair that some heroes had faster kills than others but we all know its because they were too lazy to make new ones for the chinksalso doing face reveals for the heroes instead of keeping them as faceless captains was a mistake.
Literally what was the point of Varangian.
>>2229669Reports are useless in this board anon...
>>2260355>what if Aramusha could chain directly to an unblockable heavy after punishing a GB with a heavy?>what if we made a character that CCs on literally every light attack, including finishersand most importantly>what if we owned the chuds by making the VG, an exclusively male historical viking unit, a female genderlocked characterniggersoft prank
>>2260269reminder than you can make a viking as black as soot in this game, but you can't make medjay any paler than an Indian man from a lower caste
>this game is STILL +110GB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZi9RgO64PII was right about us getting a male knight (so long as they don't break the pattern) but I wasn't expecting them to go a year without an outlander. Looks like we're getting wmaf. Four skins in one season is crazy but my hopes for them not being reused asset crossover slop aren't high. Only one converted map is lame but it's better than none I guess.
My kingdom for a girl Kyoshin
>>2261922>new kn*ght>not new viking
>>2262645eat shit viknigga
>>2262686Kn*ggers need to go back
>>2262693perhaps you should go back to fucking trees
>>2262716Go back to your shite filled streets and eternal war with the french
>>2262722im surprised your unwashed ass even knows what street is
>>2262724I'm surprised you even wash your asses.
>>2262729tough words from someone who's highest level of plumbing is a fucking river
>>2262732You quite literally dump your poop onto the streets, no plumbing whatsoever. Literal street shitters, at least we return it to mother nature.
>>2262735>wow your car is dirty, we are much better because we dont even have cars for them to become dirtygo bang your sticks together or whatever you cavemen do
>>2262735>>2262738>juren’s victims
>>2262738"Yummy, I love the smell of poop on our streets! Disease?! Not my problem." >>2262739>Chinaman4000 year history of jobbing to the monguls, LOL
>>2262750>yummy, I love the smell of poop on our EVERYTHINGyou literally sleep where you shit vigger
>>2262750>>2262754This was the shitflinging that For Honor was built on. Bring me back
Im howling laughing
1v1v1 is genuinely the most fun I have ever had in this game
I wonder what that coinflip guy would think if he saw Juren>yeah so we added a character where his chains force his opponent to role a d8 after every moveit's honestly crazy how poorly thought out this character is>what if he could just do whatever he wanted at all times
>they gave Juren's unblockable heavies a hidden indicator in order to make them harder to parrygenuinely what are these 60iq niggers at ubisoft thinking when they make these decisions?
>slow down almost every hold attack>lower his damage across the board by 25%>reduce the lifesteal granted by his T3 feat>reduce the range he pushes opponents with his held bash (currently he is granted a shit ton of damage off of a heavy parry if his opponent is in the same zip code as a wall)and now Juren starts to look like a somewhat balanced character
>duel>they executeif there's a thing worthy of a disconnect its that
>>2268737it's one thing if it's just a little quick onebut if they use a really long one or the bell or spit one yeah that's just a DC
>>2268737seethe
>highlander hero skin has no capeholy shit whyit would be so perfect with a big fur cape
>>2274783>Wan Piss>Sharten JumpWe only read Young Animal here. Highlander should have a cape like Guts.
>>2275755what everyone (including me) wanted was just a Guts inspired skinbut Ubisoft are niggers (French) and thus have no tastegiven the design they went with, the LEAST they could have done was give him a fur cape to go with the rest of his fur aesthetic
My only problem with the highlander skin is how fat the sword is
juren is the most spammy no-skill nigger character they have ever added
until juren gets a massive nerf this game is basically unplayable in Dombest 1v1 characterbest ganking characterbest anti-ganking characterthat nigger slanderous got what he wantedthey added Goku
>>2276514??? Shaolin was already in the game, this is story accurate Lu Bu.
>>2276775shaolin isnt covered in hyperarmor 24/7shaolin doesnt have neutral 100ms hyperarmored option selects
>>2276898Yeah but you said Goku, though.
>>2188788I fucking wish Chinese were never added to this gameMarching Fire killed it
>>2277021>gokuyeah exactlyan unkillable main-character god hero
>>2277065Shaolin is Son Goku, though
>>2277087dudeshut up
>>2277089>He doesn't have eyes with which to see mount Tai
yeah this is it, whenever there's a juren in the game, im pulling the plug.
Im gonna say it againone of the main ways they need to balance Juren is making his "hold" moves longer, so the victim actually has some time to make a readit would also give his animations more time to breathe
>coomer LOL I LOVE PORN name>coomer icon>shitter crutch character>still plays like complete dogshityeah
>>2279064forgot image earlier
Big fat Virt butts
>>2279759built for rapeevil woman needs correction
HERE IS MY PROPOSED HIGHLANDER REWORKpart 1 - offensive stance light attacks>replace his side offensive stance light attacks (the 400ms ones) with 600ms undodgeable "zone attacks">he retains his top 400ms light attackthis addresses one of the pain complaints people have with highlander, which is 400ms omnidirectional light spampart 2 - offensive stance forward dodge attacks>forward dodge light attack - no properties other than being enhanced - ALWAYS COMES FROM THE SIDE, NOT THE TOP>forward dodge unblockable heavy attack (cannot be feinted, but is intended more as a longer range rollcatcher for when people are trying to just roll away and sprint away from your moveset, WHICH IS A BIG FUCKING PROBLEM FOR HIGHLANDER)the main purpose of both is to give offensive form highlander more chase pressure, because right now you basically have to just permanently stay in light attack range, otherwise people can just choose not to fight you until you've unlockedpart 3 - defensive form>fix the hyperarmor frames on his neutral heavies (he currently only gets 100ms at the end of the move)>slow down his finisher heavies because my man doesnt need 600ms finisher heavies jesus fucking christ>give him a forward dodge bash that doesn't secure any damage, but fast flows to offensive stancepart 4 - celtic curse>normalize the speed of the side attacks to 600ms for each (right now one side is completely reactable at 700ms, and the other one is the only one people use as a result so its very easy to parry)>maybe lower the damage a bit to compensate
Winged Hussar bros
43K steel
>>2283929>>2284049Why did Gryphon of all characters get the best skin in the game?
>>2284049*42K
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>>2284066Feat balance changes? They finally recovered the lost technology
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>>2284074They shadow nerf valk twice with bounty hunter and stance stamina drain then fucking buff hito
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>Still no Nuxia buffs or adjustments
>>2284090and thats itmight have miss heard but they said something about MUST play the event mode to level up the event pass which is just a fucking pain i hate 90% of event mode and only play them for orders against ai
>>2284078In Hito's defense they kept nerfing after he was balanced because reddit wouldn't stop crying about him.
>>2284049meh, the helmet kinda ruins it
>nothing for Highlander>not even a small adjustment to his neutral heavies hyperarmor framesI would honestly take nerfs at this pointI just want to feel something
>>2284049well that's cool as fuckgryphon mains are eating well as of late
Holy fuck the event gamemode looks so awes->the bosses are regular warden, warlord, and orochi in cosplayCoal.
these are two scripters who were playing in a 4 stackthey were the only ones being blatant in their stack, but there was a highlander who seemed to have a script set up for instantly going into a grab from unlockthe highlander's script would be doing something like>lock on>initiate a heavy>instantly feint the heavy to fast flow>dodge forward out of the fast flow transition (which is something that Highlander can do)>the dodge count as the start of the forward dodge graband all of these inputs would happen instantly where he would just suddenly being launching at you when not even half a second prior he was just sprinting around the objectivehe basically used a script to give highlander a new overpowered sprint attackthe other two didnt have anything so fancy and would just parry all neutral lights (though not much else strangely enough, being very comfortable just letting heavies fly and hit them, including unblockables)the 4th guy was obviously just some poor fool who wasnt scripting
>>2284085>>2284082mmmmmmgood changesSohei will be harder to read nowbecause now you don't know if they're actively focusing on getting souls or not, where before it was a given
>>2284098>>2284090the stamina changes for this stance are completely irrelevant because the only use of the stance is to cancel recoveries in order to beat regular dodge attacksNOBODY is holding this shit for more than half a second
>>2284069wonderful changeindirectly nerfing BP's T2 with stamina drain is something I have wanted for years
>increased gear inventory>didnt increase loadout slotsWHATS THE FUCKING POINT UBII NEED MORE LOADOUT SLOTS
>40k steel for the griff skinFUCK YOU
Fuck the devs for making me grind this trash event mode. I cant even play vs ai. You have to play roughly 45 matches to finish the event pass. I have just been spawning in, let myself get killed, rubber banding the controller and going off to do something else
>>2285558Why are you doing it in a single day?
>>2285558pretty much the same, I just rush in, get killed and then I watch shit on my second screen
>introduce a rapier character>make it a female instead of a copy of Cyrano de BergeracWhy? Nobody wants to play female characters
>>2285757>Nobody wants to play female characters
>>2285634I'm not but you better get it done fast or (in my region) event modes are dead and unplayable in less than a week
new event is fun and I dont give a shit about anything in the pass
>>2284061jj's already the most dominant 1vX character in the game why would you make him even better at that
this event has got to be the worst gamemode in for honor in its entire rundoes anyone actually enjoy this?
>>2286579>JJ bestI think he's strong, but he's definitely not the best anti-ganker or duelist. Easily shut down with liberal use of GBs.
>>2284056>useless jobbers like conq and valkyrie catching strays instead of just specifically adjusting the characters that make the mechanic in question bustedboy am I glad I don't play this shit anymore
>>2295793>jobbersPowerscaler
>>2285757I do
>>2287011I enjoy itthe AI bosses are kinda stupid, but it just shows me that 2v2v2 would just be great chaotic fun
>>2295793Valk arguably deserved it as much as Aramusha and BP given how people play her in ganks>sit at the edge in stance>if the enemy does anything you bash and go into your sweep every single timethe bash is (supposed to be) unreactable and they usually can't punish the sweepmaybe nerf the stamin drain a bit, but definitely still keep the stam drainConq shouldn't be affected thoughsitting in all guard is not how he ganks and it doesnt make him OP in 1v1sWarlord SHOULD be affected, though the stam drain shouldn't be as punishing as it is for BP and KyoshinJuren should frankly have the change reversed and then INCREASE the stamina cost of entering his stancehe needs tons of nerfs, and nerfing his ability to hold his shitty all guard for more than half a second was not one of them
>load into match>Juren on enemy team>leaveno
met another 4 stack of scriptersI think playing dom during the weekdays is fuckedgood lord
>revenge still isnt passively superarmored or GB invulnerable>if you throw an opponent in revenge and actually try to punish it, their teammate can just GB you after your punish and stunlock the rest of your revenge by throwing you into a wall and rolling away>only heavy characters gets shields after revenge so you just die instantly after the 8 seconds is upit's profound how dogshit theyve allowed revenge to be in order to jack off the niggersweat esport clows that play this game "competitively" (which just boils down to who can 100-0 gank more consistently)GOD I fucking hate this game
>>2309260I'm seeing videos of model fuckery now on r*ddit.
>800ms heavy>hyperarmor starts at 700msfor what purpose
Juren should only be allowed to use his charged bash when trying to chain bashthe pinning chain bash needs to go
three options>reduce or remove the renown rewards for killing bots>increase the HP of bots by at least 50%>remove bots entirely and give the team thats missing a player a bonus to renown or respawn times or somethingdo SOMETHING because bots are currently worse than just not having a playerthey are an active hindrance
>rep 97 on raider>0 and 11how?
Whenever I get into a Game of Thrones mood, I boot up Honor and play a knight for a few hours.
I can't access the april fools mode
>>2323080shit me too man>>2285502
>>2323080childhood is being a liberal faggot who thinks Robert Baratheon is just a mean chud >:^(((adulthood is thinking Bobby is the main hero of the story and was right about literally everything
this april fools is funny on paperbut this just awful to playI played one match and that's about all the entertainment I can squeeze out of this
>brazilian has 100ms ping that never swings more than 5ms>the lag hides his animationsnigger
Highlander Rework 2.0offensive lights>side offensive lights are now 600ms, undodgeable, and only incur a heavy parry punish>sweeping horizontal attacks where highlander swings the sword out while holding it with one hand, like he does with parts of his regular zone>side "lights" deal like 14 damage or something>top light remains 400msoffensive kick>kick is no longer feintable>kick is now 533ms>no longer gurantees a heavv, instead only guaranteeing up to a side "light">still wallsplats which still grants a heavyneutral bash>433 ms bash with the same startup animation as celtic curse, but it it quickly ends with an upwards bash from the knee>grants no damage, but fast flows to offensive stance with frame advantage>feeds a lot of revenge to discourage highlanders from using it as a cheap interupt ganking tooloffensive stance forward dodge light attack>500ms >tracks well and covers a good distance, meant to catch opponents who try to roll awayneutral heavies>have hyperarmor start at 500msceltic curse>standardize boths sides to 600ms>maybe lower the damagefinisher heavies>slow them down to 800ms or 900ms (theyre currently 600ms)>give them more forward movement because right now they basically make you stationary and people can just ignore you if they have another target to external dodge aroundsprint attack>replace the current sprint attack with an animation similar to a regular top celtic curse, with highlander lunging forward and bringing his sword down in a big chop
they buffed Sohei, but now he's just a regular character with regular damage, except he'll just win the fight when you get to half healththis is OP as hell
How do I stop sucking mad ass at this game?I actually think its a lot of fun, but I always feel like I'm fighting the controls to do what I want to do, while I watch people around me channel Bruce Lee and flow like water between lights, Heavy Feints, guard breaks, and any special moves they may have.I just came back to the game after a long time, and I'm still having fun, but I'd like to be less dead weight, or even be able to consistently hold my own in 1v1s that aren't against players that aren't new.Especially in dominion. Its the mode my friend group plays the most but I'll be dammed if I can even hope to survive multiple people at once for more than 3 seconds on anyone that isn't Hitokiri or Warden.
>>2336499Focus on defense until you get a sense of when and who to attack. Do some 1v1s to learn the combat
>>2336499pick a character and lab. actually learn their entire kit in the training room. DO DUELS (people skip this step and unironically expect to improve in just Dominion by going 0-14 for hours). watch yt videos of people who are good. continue this rotation until it "clicks" and you stop being a net detriment to your team.also to get truly gud you will have to eventually learn the entire roster (like actually play them for a decent amount of time, not just read their tooltips or play against them) since a lot of the game is matchup knowledge, which is a little gay for newfags or long time returners because of how bloated the roster has become
>>2337076>>2337516Where can I read the tutorial on why guard breaks don't work most of the time? As in why is it when i press guard break, I do the animation and nothing happens they just smack me in the face and their character does not react.
>>2337597Some characters have t-rex arms so you have to be mindful of range when attempting a gb, especially after blocking a hit from a character with long range like Kensei or Valk. Certain attacks have extremely low vunerability too like unfeintable forward dodge heavies so be mindful of that too.
>>2337597light attacks beat gb. you aren't gonna land a gb without predicting when they're going to use a heavy attack or empty dodge or fullblock
>>2337597there are three states someone can be in with regards to GBs>neutral, where they can counter-GB>GB-vulnerabe, usually during the start of a move or immediatly after certain moves where you cannot counter GB>GB invulnerable, during the latter parts or maybe even all of certain moves durations during which you will ignore all attempts to GB yougenerally speaking a GB is "beaten" by bashes, light attacks, and zonesneutral heavy attacks all have larger amounts of GB vulnerability frames because GBs are supposed to beat parry attempts
I am still leaving every match where I see a Juren on the enemy teamand every time I dont, I regret it
>>2341376I tried not leaving againthe enemy juren went 17 and 2
>>2342426>>2341376>Just had a game with 3 enemy JurensI understand.They were literally at our spawn just killing us.I just alt tabbed lol
All chat should absolutely not be "opt in" for this game.
>>2344400it more often than not, that if I do actually play a match with an enemy Juren, they will end the match with 15 to 20 elims and only 1 to 3 deathshe's still a demigod>best neutral pressure in the game>best chains in the game>if you let him get out of neutral you suddenly have to make a read with like 15 different possiblitiesjust awful to play againsta player has to be especially stupid and predictable for me to be able to fuck them up when theyre playing Jurensomething that does help is frequently feinting to GBJuren's know their UB dodge attack is overpowered as shit, so they like to overuse itthough this is completely useless if youre being ganked by a Juren since GBs are useless outside of 1v1s or when you GB a gank victim
>Juren's UB dodge attack has a hitbox that hits behind him so it can external anyone standing near himgenuinely what was ubisoft thinking? you dont do this by accident
it needs to be a universal change that if a neutral move is going to have hyperarmor then the hyperarmor must start at 500ms
>>2305446kek
remember when Ubisoft fixed ganking by adding damage resistance?and then """competitive""" niggers complained that their ganks were ruinedand then Ubisoft made it so that damage resistance also reduces the amount of revenge received by the same amount, undoing all the benefit of the first change
>shugoki got an asscreed yasuke nigger skin instead of getting a fat red oni skinit's over...
next slide
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Raider now gets to infinitely chain back into his unblockable zone from finishers
nice, they nerfed the hyperarmor frames on Sohei>still left Highlander's neutral heavies at 700ms thoughfuck you too JC
>just nerfing the fuck out of the stamina drain so it doesn't end up mattering at allholy shit
lightmonger got buffed
>turning impale off of a heavy parry into a mixupgreat changeneed more stuff like this across the board
>Afeera nerfsnice
everyone is going to keep using tridentI dont understand the point of this change
Cent has all new feats>T1 turns every GB into a knockdown if you wantwowhe was already an amazing ganker, but this is gonna turn him into a rapist
PK feat rework
PK balance changes
>minor corruption nerfI meanit's not enough of a nerfbut it's something I guess
nerfed griefing tools
WAIT WHAT THE FUCK>blocking an Offensive light attack from Highlander now kicks him out of Offensive Formthey have gutted this characterwhat an awful way to go about nerfing Highlander light spamthe whole gimmick is that he has the worst neutral pressure in the game, but once he gets into the "zone" he's a monsternow you can kick him back to nuetral by literally doing nothing
>only change to Juren was a buff
>>2383321after playing a dozen matches with these Highlander changes I genuinely may uninstall the gameI'm just constantly being kicked back to neutral when trying to maintain pressure>Highlander lights? just block it>Highlander does an orange? people unlock rolling away from orange was bad before, but now it's awfulyou have absolutely no tools to force people to respect your mixups nowI don't think Ubisoft realized how badly this one small change would rape this characterJUST INCREASE THE STAMINA COST AND NERF THE DAMAGEFOR FUCK SAKEGIVE IT BACK THE ENHANCED PROPERTYI would rather have enhanced lights that deal 1 damage, than have unenhanced Offensive lights
>>2383556Caber toss is a roll catcher, the removal of the enhanced property was necessary because why the fuck do you have a neutral 400ms light that also gives you frame advantage.
>>2384947>Caber toss is a roll catcherit is notif you INITIATE a roll as Highlander begins to touch you, then it MIGHT prevent the rolland yeahif someone rolls then you can catch them during the recovery after they've already stood back up from the rollbut noit does not roll catchalsoI don't even want 400ms lights to begin withI would much rather have 600ms undodgeable side heavies activated with a light input (basically an inverse of Storm Rush)keep the top light as a 400ms light, but it makes it easier to parry because you KNOW it can only come from that directionAND FOR FUCK SAKEadd a forward dodge attack that actually roll catchesI am so sick of people rolling away from my mixupswhateverit will be another year or two before Highlander gets any changes, and when they do it will be more retarded shit that doesnt address his problemshe'll probably still have 700ms neutral hyperarmor in 2028I'm so mad that this is what they do for Highlander while simultaenously doing NOTHING to Juren
>>2261922Oh hey the three extra skins were reused asset crossover slop how about that
>>2386992I fuckin' hate itat a glance I keep confusing the new Shinobi skin for a PKthe nigga skin for Shugoki genuinely looks awfulhis animations were made for a big fat guy, so the nigga looks like a skinny guy wearing an invisible fat suit
>>2389257UWAH KURAE*headbutts you*
This is Shugoki from For Honor
I've started leaving any match with a Juren, even if it's only on my team>watched a friendly Juren run away from every team fight after getting below half health>runs to our spawn to farm our own soldiers to get back to full health>we lose horrible, but he only has 1 death while everyone else has like 7+ deaths I guess it doesnt matter if that useless faggot JC never nerfs Jurenbecause Im just never going to play this game with a Juren ever again
>>2383494He's so unfun to fight. This is worse than release virt. I honestly like fighting her every now and then but this guy just makes the experience worse by existing.
>>2188788what makes Louie Boo so recognizable? I don't know anything about For Honor and when I saw this thumbnail I immediately thought "oh shit it's Lu Bu"
>>2400639The Jaw Line.
>>2399592>he gets to do whatever he wants 24/7 and you have to make like 3 reads in order to punish him>try to open him up and he trades with 100ms startup neutral hyperarmor lightsI'm just not gonna play the game with Juren anymoreI will just keep leaving matchesif Ubisoft ever starts punishing PC players for closing in Task Manager, then I will just uninstall the game at that point
after 50 billion years I found a yasuke to executeI wish kensama had better choking unique executions though
Why did Juren need a full block that can be used to recovery cancel?It just forces you to GB him every time, which just makes him impossible to punish while being ganked by him.
I have now quit 6 matches in a row without actually starting the match because either an enemy or a teammate were playing Juren.
>>2402241make that 10 matches
>>240231212
>>2402371on the 13th match I still had a single enemy juren and said "fuck, how bad could it be">Rep 1 Juren>went 14 and 2
>>2402241>>2402312>>2402371>>2402420THOSE WHO CANNOT ADAPT TO JUREN ARE FATED TO BE OUR SLAVES
>>2403445>>2402420>>2402371>>2402312https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fN69lw1krFU
>>2405375havent watched this vid yet, but I heard about the bugdoesnt really matter because all Juren's just use their hold dodge attack every time anywaythe only playstyle that works on Juren is feintable bash mixupsbut if you're being ganked by him then you're completely fucked because good luck punishing a GB without taking damage from his allies
Juren and Virtuousa have really highlighted a problem that For Honor has with guardbreaks and how you're expected to punish certain moves>characters can really only be punished by GBing them>but outside of 1v1s, GBs often don't mean anything because you'll just get interrupted out of you're punish unless you have a heavy with hyperarmor that starts at 500ms or earlierlike God damntrying to anti-gank against a coordinated duo of two characters who are both defense stance characters is horrible>they both just stare at you>with the exception of certain moves, you have to GB them or bash them (virtuosa lol) >if you do either, the other just hits yousome characters can deal with this a bit easier, but it's still roughan easy solution that wouldn't effect 1v1s at all is introducing innate GB damage resistance>if you land a GB you instantly gain base 50% damage resistance which stacks multiplicatively with anti-gank damage resistance and feat-based damage resistanceit doesn't have to be 50, but it needs to be SOMETHING
>>2405375>>2403445I tried another match with a Juren
>>2406232or better yet, if you grab some one, and their team tries to help them, you still get damaged and the person grabbed gets hit for more
>>2406703that would add some great risk reward>if you see that the gank victim is low health you might go for the punish>but if you fuck up and misunderstand their current DR value, you might push them into revenge
4 Highlanders versus 3 BPs (and a Law)thanks for the 5 HP buff UbisoftI'm so happy that they nerfed this overpowered character by taking away the enhanced property from his stance lights
was watching some FH vid and I thought I saw a male pirate skin? this exists now? more reinstall worthy for me than any new character if true
>>2412227He's Blackbeard if Blackbeard spoke Gaelic.
>>2412227yepbig ol classic bearded pirate with an eyepatch and tricorn hat
he went 23 and 3parried 100% of lights thrown against him, both neutral and chain
>ass creed shadows skin>deltrarune iconyeah
Honorfags need to rope themselves. Ive had at least one match a day for the last three where they have cost us the game. Refusing to gank only to be ganked by the enemy team. Or dying one by one fighting the last enemy (usually a heavy with full perks) while both teams are breaking.Got a chat ban for calling them retarded faggots
>>2419025benefit of the doubt it's someone who just genuinely doesnt understand how revenge tags work and is trying to avoid feedingstill retarded though
I wonder if player matchmaking would lessen a bit if you could not only pick which type hero you can assign to be a bot on your own team, but also choose the cosmetics they wearlike having your own botsquad
>>2419385bots should be removed from PvP entirely
>>2419338These guys were emoting then 1v1 every fight
>played this game since beta launched and p2p disaster launch>none of my characters are rep 100 even after 9 years playing this gameStill love this game to death, but holy hell, even grinding reps still bother me to this day.
>>2419719I just don't bother caring above rep 8 is just a "just play who you like"
>>2419025my first day back yesterday and every dominion match was like this, it was fucking jarring. Do people not know there's a 1v1 game mode if they want to do that?
Another year without lightsabers
>>2425654what we had..
>>2425942>>2425654sorrydisney said no
How is it that no one knows how to gank in dom? I'm not even talking about advanced stuff like light confirming. I seem to be the only player in my region that will circle behind the enemy player and spam indicators. I will back light into unblockable finisher feint spam until I can get a guaranteed hit or kill without feeding revenge. While doing this i'll watch a teammate with a neutral bash like afeera or glad throw fucking lights at the enemy and not use their kit. I watched a nuxia throw continuous lights at an enemy that was locked on to me, just externally blocking them. Jesus christ. All rep 200-500 players as well.Players also seem to be allergic to holding points in dom. As soon as they cap one, they run off to fight the enemy in the middle of nowhere. The amount of times ive seen an ally cap a point, then leave it, for it to immediately be capped by the enemy is insane. Life is unending pain as a solo queuer
>>242899498% of the general players dont know how to gank so... your mmr isnt top tier atm?
I hope everyone who plays dom in a 3 or 4 stack gets hit by a carand I hope that JC suffers from a heart attack very soon
>Rep 98 Roach player does nothing but spam side dodge and front/zone spamI hate these players with all my fiber. How are you so fucking ass yet have a 98 rep. No love for the game.
>>2430498"easy mode" characters exist for the Target and Chipotle wagies>spend all day as everyone else's slave>stacking almost no paper and getting no bitchesso what do you do?>come home and feel like you're fucking over other people with ease by playing one of the "meta" characters that Freeze or SolidSol told you is heckin' BUSTED (on god fr fr)Orochi, in his current state, is for people who just want to win against other peoplethey don't really give a fuck about whether they're doing something stylish or skillful>making reads?>doing something your opponent won't expect?NAAAAAH fuck all thatjust keep mashing your shit and force your opponents to make double reads constantly in order to punish youPirate, VG, Orochi, and Juren exist in their current state to placate the vengeful 70 iq slave underclassif there weren't any true easymode characters this game would slowly lose an important part of the customer base that still spends actual real money on this garbage
Reinstalling the game since I heard it has cross-progression now so I can bring my xbone shit to PC. Haven't played since they added the chink faction. What am I in for lads?
>>2432420>what am I in for lads?an overall better game, but with certain characters that are just going to push your shit in like crazyif memory serves after marching fire they started adding characters that can "recovery cancel"that is to say that they can end the recovery period of a move early using certain actions (almost always dodges or going into full-block)so Orochi will let his unblockable finisher heavy fly and then he can dodge attack out of the recoveryand by the way that dodge attack is also how he does his deflectsso you'll correctly read that he was going to let it fly, but then you failed to correctly make the second read on whether he was going to >not dodge out of the recovery at all>dodge attack out of the recovery>or empty dodge out of the recoveryyou have to correctly guess a 50/50 and then correctly guess a 33/33/33it's horseshitand it's why characters like Orochi and Pirate fucking RAPE casual matchesor hellhow about Varangian Guard>let's a move fly>you dodge attack it>she cancels the recovery into her full block which pins every move in the game except for bashes (including enhanced dodge attacks that would normally bounce off of a full block without guranteeing a punish)the meta is highly favorable towards characters with a good recovery cancel tool>Black Prior>Orochi>Varangian Guard>Kensei>Tiandi>Nobushiand others like them
>>2433757>>2432420btw there is an OBVIOUS way to balance shit like this that Ubisoft just refuses to implementeither>canceling a recovery makes your next action consume more staminaor>canceling a recovery makes you take more damage for a short amount of time you could make the effects stack too in order to punish people repeatedly spamming recovery cancelsbut nopeUbi just ignores the problem while continuing to add more characters with recovery cancels
>>2433757>>2433762Boy that sure sounds fun to deal with. Can't wait for roach to make my blood boil again after all these years
They did that lightsaber thing once, during the one year I couldn't play, and then never again. I'm a little bitter
>>2439876I SHOULDVE PLAYED MORE HEROES I SHOULDVE SAVED MORE FOOTAGE
sohei is fun
>>2448142*and strong as shit
>>2448697as expected of benkei(s)
>Ubisoft took away enhanced property from Highlander's lights in the same patch they gave enhanced property to all of Warmonger's lightsHighlander already has some of the worst neutral pressure in the game and Warmonger already has a neutral (feintable 50/50) bash
Is the server currently shitting itself right now? I'm feeling massive lag spikes, my reads and input feels wonky and everything feels fucking slow. Even watching gameplay you can tell this game is massively slow. Am I going fucking crazy? I just bought a new wired controller and I STILL feel lag massive spikes. Blocking and parrying not going throw, it's fucking up my flow.
they seem to have removed a lot of the funny instakill spikes from when I last played
>>2454696some times it happens, then staff has to wake up and clear it up in a few>>2456319they removed A LOT of it and you really have to work for it
>>2456319the spikes at point A on the Shard were bugged and would kill you if you walked near them. they couldn't figure out how to fix it, so they just removed them. then removed the dividing wall, to make it look like they were improving the map instead of retards who cant fix the game
The devs ruined one of the only good looking universal ornaments in the game and will probably never fix it
>>2461716I hate it when they randomly change how colors are applied to cosmetics. I remember when they did the same thing to the chimera orochi armor and ruined my outfit
My dominion map tier list
>>2462470beach head deserves to be one tier lower for no other reason than the minions having different densities based on which side you're onone side has them all packed together, making them extremely easy to clearthe other side has them spread out as fuck, making it take far longer
>>2468035>Highlander as Conquestfitting
your enemy 4stack sir
>>2469580I lost like 5 matches in a row against these guysthe Juren never had more than 2 deaths by the end of the match and was always in the upper teens for killshe would run into our spawn after killing someone to kill them againconstant T-bagging
>>2468952isnt it very specifically the traitor highlander heroskin
I have not played in two years, what has changed
>>2472647they added a couple more heroesone of which is an overpowered monster with 140 HP who can do anything at any time, some of which has 100ms neutral startup hyperarmor so he option selects several mixupsseveral older heroes have gotten a completely new set of featsthey've gone through and significantly decreased the amount of stamina that most zone attacks useprobably some other stuff that Im forgetting
>>2472664How are cent and jorm, they were my mains Also have they deleted all asians yet
>>2472687>centjust had a feat rework which some people are calling trash, but I think he's pretty good>jormgot HA back on hammer slam and the shield from hammer slam now lasts forever>asiansstill pretty cancer overall, though some of them have gotten some key nerfsthe most OP character in the game right now is literally just Lu Bu>140 HP>can apply a defense to everyone on the map for 20s (including allies)>can gain a 40 HP shield for just activating a feat that reveals all your allies through walls and having an ally die>T3 makes you completely unkillable because it grants 33% life leach on hit, which usually leads to the losing Juren just stalling out the match timer>two different neutral bashes, one of which deals like 17 damage and feeds no revenge (STILL FEEDS NO REVENGE AFTER TWO WARRIORS DENS)>two different chain bashes which can be used at any time>infinite chains of lights and heavies, all of which have a "hold" version with extra bullshit>has an unblockable feintable dodge attack with a sweeping hitbox>neutral 100ms (the startup frame for the HA) hyperarmor unblockable zone attack for spamming in team fightshe is the single most overpowered character I have ever seen them addand they're just refusing to nerf himactually scratch thattheyve technically buffed him twice since release
>>2472768>>2472687it goes without saying at this point that I reccomend just closing the game in Task Manager if you see a Juren on the enemy teamthere's nothing to learnthe gimmick is that he can do everything he wants all the time and cannot be punishedyou just lose
>>2472768>>2472775My opinion on deleting every character right of the vikings and then go from there still remains true, I see. Will probably play for awhile before I run into another asian moshpit and get fed up with the game again.
>>2472768>no more haymaker. but why
>>2472803reasonable trade off for every GB granting an Eagle's Talon
>seething about the Samurai and the CHAD lin.Wow!Wow!Wow!
found another 4 stack with scripters
>>2478143these guys are really showing why the revenge system needs a complete reworkyou shouldn't be able to see a detailed meter of how much revenge your opponent hasonce you have enough meter they just start turtling until you lose your revenge tagand once you're low enough on health the revenge system stops mattering entirelywhat is the practical difference between 30 HP and 5 HP when getting ganked?as soon as you make 1 mistake you just eat 50+ damage out of nowhere even all they got was a heavy parry
>>2478219thanks again to JC for instantly reversing the ganking nerfs after 4stack discord trannies complained>wtf we can't 100-0 people in casual dom anymore!!!! :(((>JC REVERT THE CHANGE RIGHT NOWholy shitI hate this gameI hate the FH communityand I especially hate JC
EXTERNAL INDICATORSCAN STILLFUCKINGCHANGE DIRECTION IN THE MIDDLE OF AN ATTACKTHEY CAN CHANGE DIRECTION AT THE LITERAL LAST MILLISECONDFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
this game makes me so fucking angry it's unreal>getting 3v1 ganked>get all of them down to less than 20 HP>die before getting a kill>team comes in and mops up>I get absolutely NOTHING for doing all the work>my teammates all collect an additional 3 elimsI want to keep enjoying this gamebut holy shitI need to uninstall itit's NEVER going to stop being dogshitthose french faggots will NEVER listen to anyone's feedback except for a niche group of discord users
How does one play highlander
>>2478560is that a sincere question?because I could give you some autistic paragraphs
>>2478566Yes.
>>2478566Where are the autistic paragraphs
>>2478676>>2478591not monitoring the thread too closelyautism incoming
>>2478560okay so first thing that you need to understand about Highlander is his main weakness, which is his neutral pressure (or rather his lack of neutral pressure)Highlander has one (1) reliable opener, and even then it doesn't necessarily force a reaction from your opponent or gurantee more than chip damagehis only true opener is his zone, which gains hyperarmor at 500ms, is feintable, and chains into 2 subsequent zones with only 100ms gaps in the hyperarmoreven after Ubisoft RAPED his offensive lights last patch, one of his best neutral starters is >zone>feint one of the zones>use the feint to fast flow >immediatly perform an enhanced light to gain frame advantage (LMAO NOT ENHANCED ANYMORE)>either continue to pressure with more lights or initiate a kick / UB heavy mixupbut of course this is now a gamble because if they block your light you are kicked back to neutral and will have wasted some staminamost people will just block your zone instead of risking a parryand usually if they are going to parry, they'll parry the first oneyou can chain the zone into a finisher heavy (which can be chained back into the zone)try throwing the finisher heavy from the opposite side and then feinting to GBpeople really like to block all of the zones and then try to parry the finisher heavy at the end because of the slightly larger gapyou CAN use other moves to try and open your opponents up, but most of them are just to get you into OS or hyperarmor trade through what you think you're opponent is going to do>celtic curse and its various feintsALL celtic curse directions are completely feintable for anyone with above average reaction time and some patienceso using celtic curse to try and open up a decent opponent will usually just get you parriedhis neutral side heavies gain hyperarmor at 700ms so they're basically useless as neutral openers in a 1v1, though they can be useful for unga bunga sweeping
>>2478748cont.expanding on celtic cursethe main use for celtic curse is its CRAZY hyperarmor startup at 200msthis makes it a great tool for opening into a TRADE, or just giving you a hyperarmor start to fast flow to offensive stanceat the end of the forward dodge you can either regular fast flow to offensive stance, or hard feint to fast flow to offensive stance>wtf is the differencethere is a key difference, and that is that the feint-to-fast-flow can be dodged out of after you use feint to fast flow, you can skip the recovery of the fast flow by forward or side dodgingthis allows some goofy looking gap closing tech where you >celtic curse>hard feint >fast flow from the hard feint>forward dodge out of the fast flow>use the forward dodge to initiate a forward caber tossit is reactable, but will often catch distant opponents off guard because they don't expect this combination or for highlander to cover so much groundyou can also use the fast flow from celtic curse to get right into a kick mixuphowever anyone who sees what you're doing will EASILY be able to interrupt you with a light attack
>>2478767cont.there is LOTS of tech and niche mixups you can learnand I am not going to go any further with talking about themfeel free to explore on r*ddit or YT if you want more Highlander tech explainationsI guess I should give a description of broadly how you're supposed to be using Highlander >1v1suse every opportunity to get back into Offensive Stance so you can keep initiating UB heavy or Kick mixupsyour only true 50/50s are found in Offensive Stanceotherwise youll be getting most of your damage from trading in Defensive Stance or from parry punishesparries and crushing counters are the """easiest""" way to """""safely""""" enter Offensive Stance from neutral, but that of course means you're relying on the opponent to do something, which makes you predictablea lot of this is just going to boil down to matchup knowledge and knowing how certain characters are able to sidestep parts of your kit entirely>team fightsUNGA BUNGA HYPERARMOR SPAMno but seriouslyyou have a lot of sweeping hyperarmored heavy attacksbut perhaps a more useful way to team fight as Highlander is to hang out at the edge in Offensive Stanceif it's a kind of even team fight you can try to throw out some unblockable heavies (which have surprisingly large range, even more than you'd think)if it's a gank, then just use caber toss to grab your victim after they get a parryalso just use caber toss to interrupt people's big moves in generalforward dodge caber toss is honestly pretty broken when used with a competent teamDO NOT ABUSE YOUR CRUSHING COUNTERSgood players will often start feinting heavies into a parry in order to punish overuse of crushing countersif you use them too often you will be ROLLED by players who know how to do this
>>2478790cont.hmmmmm what elseOH YEAH FEATS AND PERKShe's got heavy perksit's not a hard choice>Bastion>Vengeful Barrior>Bulk Up or Last Stand based on preferenceas for feats>T1Rush if you know how to manage you're staminaFast Recovery if you're having trouble with managing stam, or just REALLY like clearing minion lane >T2they are ALL goodWinner's Advantage if you don't trust randomsInspire if you do trust randomsand oh manoh manMY FAVORITEBear Trap if you want to clip farm ( I will elaborate bellow )>T3Second Wind if you hate fighting PK, Nobu, or ShamanLong Bow for boosting the damage off of wallsplat or grab punishesFury for boosting T4 feats or for anti-ganking >T4Spear Storm is bad nowit's just badI can't think of a situation to use where Fire Flask isn't just betterFire Flask if you want to nuke a team fight at the end Champion's Aura for completely shutting down nail bombs, fire flasks, and other DoT spam in late game fightsI usually run Champion's AuraNOWto talk about Bear TrapBear Trap has a unique property (or is it a bug?) where Highlander can FAST FLOW after activating bear trap and instantly dodge out of itthis cancels the recovery of the bear trapthis allows a super high risk, high reward mixup>opponent is standing at kind of a distance>place bear trap to hopefully bait out a forward dodge heavy or something like that>immediatly lunge into a forward dodge caber toss>you are now throwing the opponent into the bear trap and getting a heavyso that's an automatic 25 + 26 damage punishBUT SOMETIMES YOU CAN GET THE JACKPOTif you space it correctly you can grab the opponent far enough away from the trap where they don't land in the trap, but are still close enough that when you land the heavy after the grab, they stumble backwards into the bear trap LETTING YOU GET ANOTHER HEAVYit's so fucking eviland takes a hard read and perfect spacingbut oh man it's the most satisfying thing in the game
>>2478860cont.aight this is the last I'm gonna postLONGBOWlongbow CAN be dodged on reaction, but Highlander is probably the best hero in the game for guranteeing a hit from ityou can gurantee a hit with the longbow after kicking someone into a wall or landing a caber tossyou are actually unsafe after they wakeup from the caber toss because of the longbow's recovery, but a wallsplat off of a kick is usually safeuuuuuuuuuhthat's about all I can think of for nowthere is more niche matchup knowledge, but that's stuff you'll learn by playing
>>2478890>>2478560one last bonus piece of advicethere are certain heroes that you will just SUCK fightingnamely characters with great neutral pressure and good neutral hyperarmorfighting Warlords just suckstheir hyperarmor is better than yoursand they can option select some of your moves by just bashing youmy only tip I can offer is go for parries and try to keep your spacing and throw out neutral kicks when you have just enough distancefighting Conq is also pretty bad for youand Valkactually yeah the characters who can punish with a quick bash off their full block can fuck you up if you arent carefulfighting Orochi and Pirate also sucks, but that can be said for most of the rosterTiandi RAPES Highlander>enter offensive stance>get instantly blued out of itHighlander is actually pretty GREAT against ShinobiI think HL might actually be one of Shinobi's worst 1v1 matchupsbecause kick to caber softfeint grabs them out of their side dodge bashthe same used to be true for Shugoki, LB, and Conq, but Ubisoft buffed the shit out of the side dodge bashes so their i-frames beat your mixupShugoki also rapes Highlander pretty badly for the same reasons as WarlordI know what I'm talking aboutI have played a LOT of Highlander
>>2478748>>2478767>>2478790>>2478860>>2478890>>2479077I will keep this in mind until I give up and go back to my comfort picks. Thanks.
>unlock khatun and smash dominion and duels for 2 days sucking ass>seriously my lowest k:d hero of any I've ever tried I just eat dick in almost any fight without help or knowing the other hero extensively and all their options >finally feel like its time to drop her>mfw finding out you can dodge cancel out of the fullblock dash>mfw finding out you can dodge cancel out of the pinit was like living in a smoke filled cave for my whole life and then finally being allowed to breathe open air. she actually makes sense now
>>2481508>mfw finding out you can dodge cancel out of the fullblock dashyou didnt know that going in? that must have been brutal
I've come to an conclusion that I should play strictly breach vs AI. It feels such a damn chore playing pvp on breach, especially the commander section. Maybe that's why none up my characters is rep 100
>>2482307if you can stomach playing vs AI, then yeah it's by far the best way to get not just Breach orders done, but renown orders as well
>>2482307>>2482515leavers ruin the gamemode. It is not the biggest deal in dominion because the match will be less than ten minutes, but getting leavers in breach means you are stuck in a losing game for almost thirty minutes.
>both teams get breaking at the same time. >both teams are done to a 1v1 (me versus another guy). >have an actual slow-paced fun duel. Sometimes this game is fun.
>>2482580yepBreach is decided in the first 5 minutesI used to play a ton of it, but it's just an awful experience
gas all variable heavy timing heroes
>>2483635isnt it literally just Shugoki and Hitokiri?
losing the first fight on Divine Bridge in dom is almost as bad as losing the first fight in a breach matchwhat a dogshit steamrolly snowbally map
STOP FUCKING KICKING ME.
>>2485781I dont have any tipsshes just OPall I can say is try to get a beat on how much shes using her recovery cancels and then start making reads off that
>>2485844The same thing happens with virtuosa but at least she has a cute face.
>>2485923all I can say is feint a lot and good luckand be patient when shes using her soft feinted hyperarmored heavy
I love playing da kensama, all the buffs are welcome
>>2488045most balanced hero in the game
>fight asian. >dodge spam. >light spam. >variable timed heavy spam.
How is one suppose to enter and actually do something in highlander's offensive mode
I just had a duel versus a Warlord as Highlanderhe just stared at meI was the only one who ever tried to openif I didn't do anything he would just stare at meTHANKLS FOR TAKING AWAY MY ENHANCED LIGHTSTHIS IS SO MUCH FUNI LOVE NEVER BEING ALLOWED TO LEAVE NEUTRAL
>>2490305get a parryget a crushing counterenter when far enough away from the enemy so they cant interrupt youstart up a heavy or zone and then feint it into a fast flowAND BECAUSE THEY TOOK AWAY THE ENHANCED LIGHTSthe only thing for you to do now is try to throw a kickbut that will get light interrupted
>>2490334tbf warlords do that against everyone.
>>2490342Highlander has no viable openers against warlordhe USED to because a turtling Warlord is something you could keep in check with enhanced lights to make room for a kickBUT NOT ANYMORE THANKS TO THAT FAT RETARDFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKthis is so unfun
if the next Warrior's Den doesn't revert the Highlander nerfs I think I'll just drop the game indefinitely until they enhanced property is added backit's been kind of neat at times trying to find new ways to mix people up, but a vast majority of this patch has been pure pain
>>2490341It feels like I cannot actually do something in offensive form. Like no matter the enemy I face, unless they are braindead, they will just dodge.
>>2490405you're supposed to be feinting the kick to parry dodge attacks or feint into GB to grab empty dodges
>player spams dodge attack>gets parried every time>keeps doing it despite it not working I cannot tell if they are new or are doing a bit.
>>2490431central american mindset
WEEEEEEElet's give Warmonger enhanced on all of her light attacks so she never has to think about anything ever againBUT OH NOcan't let Highlander have enhancedno no noHE MIGHT SPAM LIGHTS TOO MUCH>Warmonger's playstyle is now just mashing light light bash over and over and over and over and over and over again while randomly throwing the ol' "slightly charge the bash" mixupsHOLY SHIT I HATE THIS GAMEI HATE JCI HATE THE PEOPLE THAT PLAY THIS GAME
I need to find the will to uninstall this shitthe high's aren't worth itI'm going to bed malding over a stupid fuckin' video game that doesn't mean anything
>>2490479delete warmonger. delete all characters right of kensei. The game is saved.
>Breach vs AI with no players for some reason with enemy bots not being braindead>last remaining bot just fucking Afked after wasting tickets as attackerHoly fuck, breach is indefinitely the most obnoxious game mode ever. Let's fucking give the commander a bomb, revenge and unblockable with everyone camping with the commander. Fuck lol
beginning to really believe that for honor makes a lot of money because of chinese warrior fetishist in china who dump actualy money on steel for equipment rolls or some retarded shit which is why juren is so retarded
The game outlived Destiny 2
>>2492438>you now remember the kind of cool D2 limited time event mode that will never ever return
new Highlander execution is good and fun
I AM ONCE AGAIN SHILLING MY IDEAL HIGHLANDER REWORKneutral bash>similar startup animation to Celtic Curse>quick left handed punch>same speed as all the other unreactable neutral bashes>doesn't guarantee any damage, but does fast flow into Offensive Stance with frame advantageOffensive Stance light attacks>add enhanced property back to the Top light and leave it at 400ms>the side lights become enhanced 600ms undodgeble sweeping attacks that only incur a heavy parry punishthis solves the issue of omnidirectional 400ms enhanced light spamit's okay if the damage on top attack is reduced to something like 6it's okay if the side attacks dont deal very much damageCeltic Curse side attacks>standardize the speed of both directions to something like 533ms or 567ms because the 600ms speed is a too reactable>lower the damage of the side attacks to compensateOffensive Stance forward dodge heavy attack>forward dodge heavy attack is an undodgeable top heavy attack very similar to Warmonger's>the forward dodge heavy doesn't chain into anything, but is useful as a gap closer and a rollcatcherOffensive Stance forward dodge light attack>forward dodge enhanced light attack for quickly closing a gapneutral heavy attacks>change startup hyperarmor on all of neutral heavies to 500ms - - THIS WOULD ALL MAKE HIM STRONG AS SHIT SO HE WOULD NEED NERFS - - standardize his side heavy attacks with his top heavy so he loses his 27 damage light parry punish (though now he can punish a GB with any of his neutral heavies)slow his finisher heavies way the fuck downthey shouldn't be 600ms even after playing 1000+ hours of Highlander I still think that's retardedMAKE HIS KICK GB VULNERABLEit's so cheesy that Highlander can just start another kick to beat the GB attempt on the first kickprobably go ahead and just lower the damage of all his finisher heavies so that he doesn't get as much damage from Defensive Stance
>spectate orochi. >he just dodge attack spams. >gets parried every time.>still keeps doing it.Some people found a way to abuse their way past baby mr and have learned nothing since leaving it.
>>2493943You sound like you were just in the same match as me. My Zanhu teammate was mopping the floor with this Orochi that kept falling for top-heavy dodge-attack baits
two people in a discord call using 2 characters with full block punishes absolutely rape dom
>>2497810>have to GB either of them>if you GB one of them the other hits you for full damage before you can land your own heavy>can't even cancel out of the GB to parry the other guy even though you know 100% what hes going to doguardbreaks are such a dogshit mechanic in domthey are nearly worthless outside 1v1s
Why do I keep trying to play highlander
>>2497899because huge swords are cool as helland his playstyle is stylish as helloh heyif you're gonna learn to play highlanderyou should learn to wavedasheven though theyve nerfed it pretty hard, it's still doable
Highlander's sprint attack is fucking awful
they should replace Highandler's current running attack with a running overhead chopand make it unblockableORalterantivelyspeed up the current sprint attack and let it chain directly into Highlander's zone attack
>>2500047>wavedashWhat is that
>>2500297so it used to be that in Offensive Stance, changing your guard direction after a dodge would cancel the recovery of the dodge, allowing you to almost immediately dodge againthis was before Offensive Stance had a dodge attack of coursetheyve also made it so that whenever you dodge in Offensive Stance it changes your guard direction to the direction you dodge (you used to keep your guard direction through the dodges)you actually used to be able to forward wavedash fast enough to almost keep up with unlocked sprinting playersbut Ubisoft killed that part of wavedashing with the guard direction changesyou can still wavedash to the side during a fight which can be really useful for quickly putting distance between you and an enemy by locking on to another enemy and external dodging away from the one who is attacking you>dodge to the left>immediately change guard direction to the right>dodge to the left againthat's pretty much ityou USED to be able to wavedash quickly enough to dodge through chain light spam, but not anymorecan still be used to for occasionally escaping an attack by the skin of your teeth that would have otherwise forced you to parry or something
>>2500361I should add that you should be throwing in some offensive light attacks between dodges every now and then to keep your enemy on their toesif you see them using an orange move then you can just dodge attack as part of your wavedashing
>>2500297>>2500361skip to the last 5th of this fighthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rD7Z0oblkOIthis guys uses it to dodge a bunch of chain lights the loss of wavedashing is still mourned by long time Highlander mainscool as hell
I tried playing against a Juren again>if he fucks up and lets me get into my chains he just trades with his instantly hyperarmored lights 100ms hyperarmor startup lightswhat a joke
>>2188788https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y--wsCwak-Yhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiJlramRRB0
I am tired of fighting asians.
your enemy for the evening sir
>>2506278thank you sir
>>2506345yeah...
>>2506345>>2506377A real man's man.
Is there some secret you are meant to do with mouse deadzones and sensitivity, it feels like I am getting hit despite moving my mouse in the right direction.
>>2508682couldnt tell youthis game is clearly meant to be on M&K
I wanted to git gud with an all guard hero and started playing VG because I like the shield and axe combo. Cant seem to get the timing down for the all guard to catch externals, or as a recovery cancel. People just wont attack me when the 'should'. Switch to BP because very similar. People are attacking me when they 'should'. Start flipping people multiple times a fight using bulwark as a recovery cancel. I don't get it are people that scared of VG's all guard? its objectively worse than bulwark
>>2511460VG stance entry speed is 100msyou're supposed to activate it just as the enemy is about to hit you
>>2511460>I don't get it are people that scared of VG's all guard? its objectively worse than bulwarkholy fucking shitno, people are terrified of VG's all guard and for good reasonthat thing CHEATS the rulesit's just Aramusha's full block, but it still pins people even if they used an enhanced move (enhanced moves wont get bounced by aramusha's full block)her all guard is complete horse shit in team fights because you will barely clip a VG with an external zone and suddenly you're eating an entire wombo combo punishshe is one of the most oppressive gankers in the game because she can just continuously shut down the victim with her pinning all guard without actually feeding any revengealso because of how scary her all guard is, people know that VGs love to use it so they'll frequently feint moves or delay attacks in order to avoid giving the VG an easy all guardbest time to use VG's all guard is to punish a dodge attack after letting your finisher heavy flyI also reccomend trying to read when people are going to feint to GB and instead throw out a neutral bash >see finisher heavy coming>anticipate the feint to GB>bash into the heavy which lands as they feint it throwing a light does the same thing, but extremely good players will just feint and parry your light interrupt
>>2512884Its objectively worse because your punishes are not guaranteed. I'll pin an enemy do heavy punish and get lighted out of it by their teammate. Ive pinned 2-4 players multiple times and done the zone (which is designed specifically for that situation) and its just fucking misses all of them. Where as bulwark counter you have hyperarmor and cant miss unless you get cucked by wall collision. >I also recommend trying to read when people are going to feint to GB and instead throw out a neutral bashI know about light checks and interrupts. I am not using her all guard in 1v1 unless they are super aggressive and love to zone/light from neutral or as a recovery cancel to catch dodge attacks.Just got done playing. All matches with VG did ok to good. Play one round as BP to compare and go 12-1 and win a 1v3. I like VG's aesthetic but she just isnt as good
>>2508705I play with mouse and keyboard but I was wondering if there was an "ideal" sensitivity and deadzone number you want it on.
>massive teamfight going on.>fighting a warden as highlander. >light attacking the sides.>he keeps blocking but is not attack afterwards. >just keep doing it for the lulz. >he keeps blocking for the lulz. >end it with us doing the, "quickly switching between left and right stance," bit. The little things.
>>2515317>>2508705>>2508682wait Im completely retardedI dont know how I made this mistake, but I meant to say>this game was clearly meant to be played on a CONTROLLERI dont know how I typed out M&K without realizing
>>2514194>Its objectively worse because your punishes are not guaranteed.nigga what the FUCK are you smokingread this shithttps://www.forhonorinfohub.com/character?=34
>reach a killstreak of five without dying. >go 7-0 one game. >go 11-0 another game. >stuck on 4/5. Is this thing lying
>black prior. >is a black prior. bravo kojima.
>playing as highlander. >make red cross emblem because I am lazy and unoriginal. >cover my highlander in crosses. >go up against a gladiator. >notice he has a star of david on his shoulder. >then noticed he has star of davids all over his body. >we are both respectable to each other and wait for 1v1's. >won them 3-0 but they were all very close and could have gone either way. >ubisoft servers crashed before I could get a screenshot of him
>>2517036Did you only read the first sentence of my post? Or do I have to specify during team fights, while I'm talking about enemies interrupting her all guard punishes. If you actually read the info hub you will see the punishes don't have hyper armor and you can be interrupted or knocked out of her punishes by your allies and enemies in a TEAMFIGHT or 1vX
wtf when did pirate get an actual pirate skin, I might play them now
Just checked back in. Shame so many of the new heroes are foids but they are kinda coolBut what the fuck is Virtuosa, that is a For Honor 2 hero in a For Honor 1 game
>>2517741You shouldn't respect jews, cringe
why does virtuosa have hyperarmor
Is this game's meta just to choose the characters with the most abusive dodge attacks
>>2517741seconding what the other guy saidDIE JEW DIE DIE DIE
>>2518312I don't know if you can do this, but if you're expecting an interrupt, then instead of going for a punish you should see if you can parry the light since you know theyre going to do itor do you mean using it in the middle of a huge chaotic 2v2 or more team fight?
>>2520523You have a few options in a 1v2/3/4 you pin an enemy and expect their allies to interrupt (with an attack not a bash) you can:Try and time the superior light to external the none pinned enemyLight punish then go back into all guard and pray they aren't going to throw a heavy and feint to gbHeavy punish but feint it to parry/all guardZone attack which has a 360 hitbox but fuck all range and misses a lotIn team fights or ganking its common for me to get interrupted by enemies or my team mates. My original posts point was in comparison to BP, where you just press button and get punish. No extra thought required and cant be interrupted, bar some weird bash interactions or wall collision.
>>2520865Whoops, wrong thread. Meant for here. Insane people hack for honor these days, have they no shame?
>>2520871>have they no shame?they have almost no shame, but they have melanin o'plenty
>>2520871Not only are they cheating, they pay monthly to cheat. It's a level of pathetic that is hard to grasp
>>2520871bro this is EVERY comp game
>>2506345>>2506377
Teams with matched up colors do look really good though, shame they're so rare
>>2520871Every competitive game has had cheaters as long as competitive games have existed. These script kiddies even pay money for cheats.
>>2522359>>2522646FH didn't really have cheaters during the time where it was almost relevant and some actual tournaments were going on. But the only people still playing it now are all mentally ill and can't accept losing in video games even if they are no stakes
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>>2523652how do people even get people chatting in text chats?
>>2523672Seething after duels
Now that hero skins gave us a genderswitch I finally wanna play a real Wardaddy
delete virtuosa from the game.
>>2524262just play warden forever.
I haven't played in months but this game crossed my mind so I thought I'd drop in and post my most beautiful kill that always tempts me to come back like a siren on the rocks
>>2520871sex with toki.
>Playing Dom soloQ>Fighting Conq for zone control>Fucker parries every follow-up attack I throw out when I punish his bash or>Like every single one, no matter what direction>Think this is bullshit>Post-match other all teammates call him out for scriptingScripters deserve to have their fingers removed
>>2518690It really fixes everything wrong with Pirate design wise>Actual pirate lol>Fits the kind of sluggish way Pirate walks because he is a bulky dude>No more chinese screechingIt's what Pirate should have been from the start
>>2526399And of course ubisoft still messes it up by making it a skin instead of just having it be an option like with jorm and hito.
>>2526399>>2526766>"umm but did you know that a female chinese pirate is actually the most successful pirate ever?" I do not care, I want to play blackbeard, not annoying chinese woman who dresses and acts like a caribbean pirate instead of how zheng yi sao dressed and acted.
>>2526399>"AARHGLB-davyjones..."i always have a chuckle fighting the coalheart skin
>revenge still doesnt grant passive superarmor >revenge still doesnt have a stamina drain aura around it so that anyone who rolls away instantly gets put out of stamina>you can still be put into 4s long parry punish cutscenes while in revenge (looking at you, Warmonger)>your revenge bar is still visible in full detail to the enemy team so they know exactly how much more they can gank you and when it's safe to wail on youtrash
>Come back to my Jorm-Only account years later>Find out he got buffed out the assI deserve to play this version of him
>bump limitFugg, I should start drawing the next OP
>>2528484do it
every Jorm just feints their unblockable and then throws a light
>fighting enemy. >having fun. >orochi shows up. Always an asian.
>>2529576Everyone just abuses 50/50's when you facing better players.
>>2529598
>Zhanhu hero fest going on>Always thought Zhanhu was cool-looking but kinda weak>Decide to try him out while he's free>Fun, but not getting it yet>Zhanhu flow state hits, achieve enlightenment>Turns out he's actually really good and fun if you're not dogshitI've bought him yesterday and now I'm already up 2 reps since getting him. He's so goddamn fun to play and once you get into the flow state you just start roflstomping motherfuckers. It's like the hero I never knew I needed to play
>>2530270Once you really get Zhanhu's flow down you will 100-0 people for the cost of your stamina bar. After you get a heavy from GB, go straight into your forward dodge bash. The enemy is frame negative after the heavy and have to read the bash. They cannot dodge on reaction. Dont use your dodge attacks defensively because they are extremely GB vulnerable. Instead use them offensively as part of your mixup, instead of always going for the finisher heavy/lights
>>2530270Zhanhu has every ingredient for being a complete bastard, but he doesn't pull shit out of his ass like Pirate and Orochi so he is generally tolerated and respected>fast neutral bash>that mid-chain undodgeable zone>dodge recovery cancels after most of his attacks>those delicious dodge ripostes which you are usually getting after dodging out of a recovery>unblockable LIGHT finishers he's just goodhis feats could use a rework thoughhe doesnt lean far enough into his fire gimmick>give him a T4 that briefly lights his sword on fire so that he inflicts burnining on all his attacks, giving him continuous use of his T3 for a limited time>replace his T3 longbow with the fire bow from Aramusha>change his T2 fire bomb so that instead of dealing 30 burn damage over 4 seconds, it instead deals that same 30 damage over 6 or even 8 seconds because honestly right now you're better off ditching the fire shit completelyit's better to go with>Bounty Hunter>Thick Skin>Longbow>Regenerate
God I just love Warmonger's armor aethetics so much. I'd prefer a male version but a skin would probably just ruin my fashion
>>2530991That's the one thing that bothers me about Warmonger. I feel like it would have made sense to have a male version by now since there's male Warmongers in the lore. That or give Warden the Commander armor from Breach
>>2530991Warden?
>>2531017Nah
It is a little disappointing that Warden only has 3 pieces of real plate armor. I hope he gets more, the Triumphus set is cool but the gold trim and it being so clean kinda gets in the way of me using it with more stuff
this felt REALLY goodI swear to God if Ubisoft ever removes Bear Trap from Highlander I'm going to uninstall>holding an objective>Jorm runs on to point>we fight a bit>I place down a bear trap in the middle of the fight>he avoids it but ultimately dies and it's pretty close>he respawns comes right back>he's failing every read>soft feint a heavy into a caber>he lands just outside the bear trap>hit him for 26>he stumbles backwards into the bear trap and takes 25 from it>land another 26 damage heavyGOD DAAAAAAMNit's so filthyHE KNEW THE BEAR TRAP WAS THERE BUT HE NEVER EXPECTED TO BE GRABBED LIKE THAT AND THROWN INTO IT
>>2531196Would have t-bagged you for that gay sunflower too
>>2531196>This Kensei was scary to watchI wanna know what he did now
>>2531316watched him start up his top heavy finisher then side feint it to the side hyperarmor heavy AND THEN he read when his opponent would dodge attack the soft feint and got in a side dodge deflect on their dodge attack
>>2531323That's fucking nuts
>>2531323CringeYou just know Kenseis expect a cookie for doing well with a hero that used to be shit ages ago
As someone coming back to this game after barely playing off an on for a couple years, how does one fight Khatun and Virtuosa properly? All the other new characters seem straightforward to deal with
>>2532505>Virtuosaall I can say is go for frequent GBs because that is the ONLY thing that can pull her out of her stance (other than an undodgeable)try to be patient because they like to use their directional soft feints, but if you wait you can react to itif you have a feintable bash you can bait them into dodge attacking, which is kind of easy to punish because her dodge attacks got slowed down (because they can come from any direction regardless of which direction she dodges in)
>>2532585I mainly play Centurion so I'll watch out for that. Also, what's with my damage sometimes not going through?
>>2532505If you do not have a feintable unblockable you basically can do nothing against her. If she has a teammate then you actually can do nothing against her. She also has hyper armor for some reason.
>>2532505>khatunlearn to block 400ms lights, be prepared to predict the bash kick, remember that if the Khatun goes into deflect stance off a light finisher then you can light them out of an unblockable since its frame disadvantaged, they can only safetly go for lights.
God Juren's hyper-armor is fucking retarded
>>2533168yepthey gave him 100ms startup neutral hyperarmorhe can just option-select most mixups if he feels like trading
So uh.... What's stopping us from reviving /fhg/ on /vg/.We outlived Destiny 2,Mordhau and other live service game, and soon our 10th Anniversary coming up next year, why must we remain here in /vm/
>>2530270>>2530584>>2530983How does he compare to Orochi and Tiandi?
>>2533743Threads are low activity and seasons have long spaces between them
>>2533743Nigga this thread is about to be half a year old
Should I wait for the thread to actually die before starting the next one
>>2533817Quite similar to Tiandi actually.
>>2534814Yes
samurai season inc
>>2536074Pirate skin Numer 3
>>2533817like Tiandi except he trades omnidirectional blue moves, neutral hyperarmor, and feintable dodge attacks for unblockable finishershe plays like Orochi in the sense that you can spam dodge attacks, but it's not as potent
>>2536074if they dont nerf the fuck out of Juren this WD it really will be over for this shitty gameand reverse the Highlander nerf while youre at it
>2 Jurens ganking you>one throws a light and then chains into the pinning bash>the second juren throws a light to pile onto the first pin>and then immediatly follows with their own pin>this continues until you die and you never get revenge
>>2537206I want to hate Sohei's pierce attack but really it's all he has. Every Sohei I see bottom frags, teammate or opponent
Jesus fucking Christ why does no one go to zone B? The team I was playing with a minute ago won but we could have won way fucking faster if anyone had the brain capacity to go to zone B so the enemy team doesn't keep fucking rallying. I saw motherfuckers RUN PAST it to go get more kills when we could have locked down the win easier with the buffer zone. It to mention how it gives you as many points as a boosted zone just for having it so you can gain more points over the course of the match as long as you have someone watching mid-lane from time to time. Holy shit my head hurts from how stupid my team was, like yea they could fight but FUCK
>>2229669>Getting banned because you're too goodAaaaand that's why I play against bots
I see almost no pirates, what gives? Do people feel shame now? That wasn't the case last time I played
>>2537860only about 20% of players actually know how to play dom. most treat it as an extended deathmatch game. hardly any players know that on most maps C is closest to B. all you have to do is defend C and rotate B to win.>>2538994they are all playing juren now. i didnt believe huge amounts of people play meta heroes, until orochi's omni undodgeable storm rush got nerfed. almost overnight orochi went from multiple every game, to one every now and then
>guy's emblem is the jew flag. >has a SS logo on his chest.
>Got player survey in my email>Perfect opportunity to rip into Ubi for the fuckass existence of hero skins and not just having them be fucking armor sets
>>2544017>SurveysThey even invited actual FH players to come to them to discuss how to improve the game at one point and exactly zero of the things they addressed were actually fixed
>>2461716That's a really cool armo-->SandalsBro
I just came back to this game, havent played in years, i had a bunch of questions1. How is Orochi right now? I wanted him to be my favorite back then but he was very bad, he didnt have anything good other than 400ms second lights so he was pretty useless against people good at the game. These days it seems like he got a kick and unblockable and storm rush and all that shit, i was wondering how good he is now in 4v4 and 1v1. and any tips for him??2. Zhanhu seems fun but i was wondering about these unblockable light attacks. Back when i played, they were basically suicide. In the current day, how easy is it to tell them apart from the heavy attacks? How likely am i to get parried and eat shit if i throw out one of these after doing several unblockable heavies?3. is it just me or do dominion games end way faster now4. is it humanly possible to get a good match in breach or deathmatch?
>>2433757this entire post sounds fucking retarded>so you'll correctly read that he was going to let it fly, but then you failed to correctly make the second read on whether he was going to>>not dodge out of the recovery at all>>dodge attack out of the recovery>>or empty dodge out of the recoveryis this casually completely ignoring the existence of parrying?>yeah but the feint to guard breakbut then you didnt read him correctly. And most characters could do a dodge attack instead which avoids both of these options but eats shit when he feints to neutral.
>>25446211. Orochi is extremely good right now, so long as you have stamina you can spam ub/ud mixups with dodge cancels like an ape. 2. Zhanhu's ub lights are fine if you don't use them like a retard, though it does depend on your elo. 3. I don't know. 4. No.
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>>2545562
>>2545562I main Orochi and I love baked cheese
>Return for some Lawaction>He got nerfed like 5 minutes ago
