Dark and DarkerHopes and reams for new classes/maps?Or just complain about class balance, hadn't seen a DaD thread in awhile
>>2322934The biggest recent change for me was the removal of bunnyhopping. As a long term player I have hated it for the longest time. The reason ranged classes cannot be balanced and kite infinitely is because of retaining momentum in the air for weapon swapping/casting/etc. That is now gone, the survival bow is no longer the best weapon in the game bar none because you literally cannot be hit ever with it out. That was a major positive change.>HoweverThey also promised that each class would receive new spells and unique shit. That didnt happen. The barb and fighter got new spells, and every weapon got the ability to parry and riposte. This did somewhat balance the best melee weapon in the game by far (The longsword), since other weapons now can hit hard. I can talk for hours about the stupidity of the longsword, so ill just move on.Speaking of new shit, the Barbarian got Whirlwind and a couple new spells and "everyone" (Youtubers) cried WW was overpowered. It has since been nerfed. I do not believe WW should be able to attack through walls like it could/still can(?) but WW was not overpowered in any sense of the word. They brought its damage from 100% per hit>80% per hit. Why would you choose to use a spell that nerfs your damage by 20% when you could just auto attack for full damage? I dont get it. The barbarian isnt strong because it has WW, its strong because its healthpool has a base of 43%(I believe?) higher than every other class.
>>2323506>As a Lifebloom DruidMy class has seen more nerfs than any other throughout the history of Dark and Darker post launch. Every time a streamer dies to bear form or panther form, Human form druid gets nerfed in the following patch notes. With the inability to shapeshift, my class has only 1 skill. Spell memory, the other slot i literally leave empty. I understand longterm wizard players for example have been without new mechanics for probably a lot longer than druid, but I really would just like a second skill in my damn bar so I have two like every other damn class.Since im on the topic; if you compare the healing capabilities of base druid vs base cleric and lifebloom druid vs advanced healer cleric theres also no reason you should ever go with druid in either case. Lifebloom removes the ability to shapeshift, so by choosing druid you're choosing less base healing and less attribute scaling over a duration of time instead of instantly healing for higher bases with higher scaling. I dont die a lot because i have a million hours into the game, but its because im good, not because my character class is carrying me. It weighs me down quite a bit desu.>New Volcano mapI dont really like it. The theme isnt my favorite, but also im just not big on it. I think instead of a new map I would massively prefer the 9+ tiles at the new season start to just be made for a current map. Like 6 tiles for ruins and 3 for goblin caves, something like that.I havent played much this season despite bunnyhopping finally being removed, im just kinda bored. I mostly play in squires solo and its starting to feel pretty repetitive. But if you're new to the game, with the removal of bunnyhopping there genuinely isnt all that much "movement tech" you have to familiarize yourself with before being competitive. Dark and Darker currently is in a very good place.>Pic unrelated. Outdated longsword and why it was so stupid.
>MOST IMPORANTLYAnd my final post: The game currently has 500 queues for different things. You cant argue with me; the best version of the game ever was when "Squires to riches" (Trios ONLY lobbies) was forced. Im a solo player and i still massively prefer trios only lobbies. With the addition of solos, and easy healing (squire now gives you a campfire, potions, blue potions, etc) and knowledge/experience of how monsters and the game works in general, it has flipped for me from a slow methodical dungeon delving game with pvp to a fast paced call of duty.The release of panther chicken jump/rat form through doorways absolutely ruined the game for me. Not because i was dying to it, but because when druid was released lifebloom wasnt out yet so it became a requirement of my kit playing druid. I know you can make arguments that it was/is overpowered and contributes to the movement speed meta, etc. but thats not what my biggest problem with it is. It turns the identity of the game from slow paced, to one of sprinting to other players spawnpoints because only I have the ability to do so. I no longer lurk around corners noting down how many players I see in the enemy team to decide if i should fight or run, I sprint at them knowing theres only 1 person to fight and thanks to my experience, im almost always guaranteed to win unless i screw up or am severely outgeared. (Patch dependent) >I do very much like the game, and anyone thinking about getting it; it has been the only game ive been excited for since the 2013 trailer of The Division 1. And in this instance; D&D lived up past my expectations.
>>2323518I think lifebloom druid should get a few more spells specific to that perk. Give them a Rez at least, to differentiate them from cleric make it a spell that grows a seed on the player corpse that has like 10 health but eventually resurrects the player.As a Wizard main the state of wizard is annoying, its powerful but the spells are bland compared to sorc. I'd rather they get a ton of flavor spells like Knock, Mage Hand, Grease, etc. Maybe make a perk that turns R into another spell wheel so they could run 15 spells in a lobby but I don't even think they have 15 spells.>>2323524Ya, they need to turn down the queues, I much preferred the time where only goblin caves was the solo dungeon with a 3x3 module. I think every NPC just needs around 3 - 5 quest and you can read what later quest require so you don't need dnd tracker to keep track of the 100+ items
SDF leaving to work on another project to "prove nexon wrong" i think is a major red flag. Terry was a major part of Electronic Arts monetization back in the day. If you notice; since that community note was made about SDF stepping down leaving it to Terry and Paul(?) the game has already gotten like 10 weapon cosmetics + weapon cosmetic bundles you can only buy with real money. Granted the cosmetic is the same just for multiple different weapons, but its the first weapon skin there is and theres tons of them.>AlsoThe bluestone shard "squish" where they gave you double blue stone shards and made them worth half of what they were. Idk if any of you caught that, but the purpose wasnt to make the system more simple, it was to half the amount of bluestone shards you earn in a season and double the amount of time it takes to get them.I fear that the upcoming season we'll start to see gayer and gayer shit in the cash shop.
>>2324190To me the most grievous example was the stupid ass fart emote that doesn't fit the theme of the game. I don't care much about the new cosmetics. The new skins remind me of fortnite pay to lose ones, especially the extravagant cloak one that sticks out in the dark. As much as I hate it cosmetics nowadays are what prevent games like this from dying.I wonder if SDF was gone for awhile now, what with the last few patches actually being high quality.
>>2325269>last few patches actually being high qualityI dont know if SDF was deserving of all the hate. The reason he was so overwhelmingly despised was the youtuber bandwagon. Now i dont know for sure what specific patches were majorily terry and which were majorily sdf, but like the majority of things the youtuber influencer train hops on, its mostly telephone game from one to the next to collect ad revenue before the topic doesnt get views.
>>2322934Blacked and blackeder. I prefer barony.
>>2325637They very much do cater to the streamers, I remember when sumit1g was playing a shit ton of fighter. They kept giving that class little buffs when he was playing but he would always die to another fighter, usually the buckler dagger ones. He uninstalled the game after like the dying to one the fifth time in a row lol
>>2325637>>2339384Ah yes found it
>>2339406>>2339384I hate streamers so much. They cry about X, and X gets changed. They're so casual in the games they play, they're only there for ad revenue, and the big ones have so much influence they can ruin the game with just a few complaints. It wouldnt be a big deal if it didnt happen SO frequently.
>>2339941extraction games are streamer games.
>>2339970Once human isnt an extraction game. Asmongold literally did your reply's picrel in my very server i was in. I was in the prismverse clash server asmongold ruined.The population went from being like 65:35 to like 10:90 in a day, then when he was done doing the sponsored playtime, the next day after like noon or whatever it was; the population cut down to like 50 total players in the entire server total across both factions. Everyone kept dying to the massive horde of Mayflies.
>>2347994They ruin any game, reminds me when Asmon had multiple raid groups spawn camp Gadgetzan in WoW classic. Then a few weeks later when Dispelling World buffs because the favorite tactic against streamers he along with many others wanted people to be banned for that shit
>>2322934cuck and cucked
>>2365240get cuckeddd byotch, killed a lot of mad manlets in dark and darker yesterday. there should be some eu dark and darker thread. i want to see them crying
I HATE DRUIDS FUCK YOU RATCASTERS
>rogue and ranger getting new perks and abilitys>100% theyll be OP>2 of the already meta classes will be even more metacasters in shambles
I wish I had a static group to roll HR with. Playing with randoms sucks ass
I played back during beta days.Is the game not at risk of shutting down anymore?Is cleric good?
>>2384190They mean shadow step to be a 1v1 ability but honestly it sucks in that area once people understand what you're trying to do. Against bonk wizards it just means the rogue has one less active to worry about.It's going to be a nightmare for third parties though. >>2385816It's fun, game probably won't shut down due to the lawsuit since they were just ordered to pay but they are still fighting that. It could shut down if player count gets low which it seems to always be on the verge of that.Cleric is good in groups, one of the best 1v1 classes if people W key you but if you fight a Wiz/Sorc solo you are going to die
>>2384190>Rogue>Meta>GoodRogue has been unironic genuine garbage since they gutted the entire class six seasons back and the sole exception has been gigajuiced literal top tier gear while also being played by players on Adderall, and even then Rogue still dies if it gets so much as looked at
>>2385816>Is the game not at risk of shutting down anymore?The entire lawsuit was never going to cause that, that was never an issue. Ironically its closer now to shutting down than ever before. SDF stepped down to work on another game to "prove" himself to everyone after the stolen game allegations. >What this meansTerry is becoming the lead guy, and a new guy that everyone likes "Paul" is now handling things like balancing. Terry was the pointman behind EA's monetization from way back in the day. Everyone hated on SDF but he's also the reason the game wasnt monetized in a gay way. If SDF is actually completely going to work on a different game then they could slip shit in left and right that kills the game, but this is only speculation as we havent had much time with the new pair yet.>>2392358>My build kinda counters rogueBut ive never had any issues with rogue since i stopped playing as rogue in playtest 3(?)
Came back from a year break, my god does wizard seem gutted.>Magic pen is now based on their MR, ie 50% MR vs 20% pen makes it 40%>Alright w/e Zorin is now def the worst religion>True magic/phys gone>Good change it was cancer>Rogue now has shadow step, ranger new stuff>Guess solo wiz is more dead>Arcane missle nerrfed to half scaling>Fireball "buffed" but no longer does splash damage on direct hit making it actually a nerf>worst of all, STILL no wiz flavor spells like knock/grease/fly etcHowever druid was gutted too so overall a positive year it seems
>>2403666the last state of shapeshift mastery that had charges on cooldown was what the community begged for for ages and was actually balanced once they also added the spirit spell restrictions with it, the current state of SSM is so bad that its jot even worth taking
>>2403666>druid was gutted tooA lot of classes are massively weaker now than prior. Warlock has seen a lot of negatives, Druid, you're claiming wizard (Wiz is the class i know the least about, casters have never ever given me trouble excluding playtest 3 when wiz was hands down the best class)I think overall, the only classes to see buffs/major positive change was fighters and barbarians, even after the rogue/ranger ability additions, i still dont have much issue fighting either. The only class i actually fear in a 1vs1 is Barb, and Fighter, but boy do i see a lot of those two.
>>2406342I've noticed a lot of barbs/fighters as well. I've yet to be shadow stepped by a rogue and barbs in solo don't seem to be taking iron will because there is like no casters there. I got kick my habit of jump casting though
the game is popping off wake up
>>2406388>I got kick my habit of jump casting thoughI still do it, but idk if it actually slows you down or if its standardized nowHAS ANYONE SEEN DEMON'S HEIGHT YET? I didnt notice it until my brother pointed it out to me; click on races and click between demon and a standard human like the mummy on bottomright. Demon has a bigger hitbox than every other race. He's much larger.>What races does everyone think are meta?Dwarf is S tier for heater shield fighter and most likely barbarianSome skins are absolute shit and only serve to punish you for picking them, like the fish
>>2426257Skeleton mage is just flat out the best wizard skin for non bonk. It's even more rare because it was a religion skin during an unpopular season where farming gold was harder than it is now.For melee I feel like someone is going to figure out some broken dwarf frontline comps combo, like a ranger and caster can just spam shots over them with out worrying about hitting them. Demon might have some niche use but is probably an overall bad race due to its height and hitbox
>>2426257Demon race would look fine if it didn't have those ugly wings. The silhouette makes it look like a pile of turd is strapped to the demon's back. They deserve to have a larger hitbox for being so awful>What races does everyone think are meta?Minmaxing with skins sucks so I choose race by what would be aesthetically cool or interesting for the class.>skele champ barbarian>wizard gets lizard>crocodile cleric>orc fighter>cat ranger (like how it looks and a little bit for the extra agi)>platelock with scorched mummy (think its glowing eyes look cool coming out of a helm)>gold skele for rogue>don't play much sorc/bard so no set race
Still true to this day
This wipe kinda slaps fr....
Squire Royale with randoms experience>Wizard fireballs in back of my head>Cleric heals me at 90% health despite having heal potted then *sits*>Druid turns in to a rat and runs away once we see the enemy>Rogue teleports behind a team of three and dies to double halberd>Barbarian spin TKs both of us>Ranger steps in his own trap>Sorc pins us in with earth elemental>Fighter fights mobs, hits 70% health then second winds instead of potting>Bard spams din of darkness during a team fight>Warlock phantomizes into enemy, sorc and wizard cast aoe him to death
