Final stretch for Dragon's ClaimNew Event pass on the horizonGoo is now in shamblesFear dominates the upcoming S11 melee rework (it's getting updated to brawl)Join Vidya to find other anons
>>2498602TICK TOCK, MELEE FAGGOTS. YOUR TIME IS COMING TO AN END SOON. NO MORE WILLING YOURSELF OUT OF THE INTAGIBLE ETHER AND MATERIALIZING SOUNDLESSLY ON TOP OF MY HEAD, BLINDLY SPAMMING LEFT CLICK. FUCK OFF, THE PLAYERBASE IS FULL ENOUGH WITHOUT YOU.YOU'RE DONE. YOU HEAR ME?DONE.D...O...N...E
>>2498773People will become this deranged instead of just turning off their goon music to actually hear people in-game
>>2499056>implying the enemy footstep audio isn't inconsistent dogshit Meleeshitter cope
i play with speakers not headphones though :(
>>2499056I can't play without my funky tunes
What are you guys thoughts on the pike?I like using it a lot personally it's great against mediums and heavies I just hope it could 3 bodyshot lights.
>>2499682I like it quite a bit, that skin in particular is one I like a lot because of it's 'pew pew' sounds
>>2499056You ever notice how you can be directly behind shitloads of players, and they all mysteriously never hear you?That's a key sign there's audio issues with The Finals, and always has been. People aren't just blaring KORN out of their loudspeakers and vaping every single time they boot up the game.Kys
>>2499682All in all, the pike isn't too bad right now. Unless you're a headshot wizard, there's really no reason to use the repeater over the crossbow or pike desu.I almost want to say that the pike is being slept on (again)
>>2500609>People aren't just blaring KORN out of their loudspeakersthat's why they don't win
>>2500609>people aren't just blaring KORNThis.A lot of people are actually just shit at the game and can't hear because their spacial awareness is complete dogshit, no distractions needed.Like you!
>>2501343Cope harder numbnuts, audio is borked and you dick-riding Embark will not change thatIf even r*dditors know shit's fucked, you have no excuse
>>2501392>he agrees with shitters from r*dditThanks for confirming how bad you are at the game
>>2501402>> Implying only heckin' based 4channers know about and play The FinalsI'd hate to be the first person to tell you this, retard, but The Finals has a larger community on r*ddit, discord, and steam than on this hellscape of a website. If even normies are complaining about the same audio issues consistently, you're just being an edgy contrarian nobody likes
>>2501419>nooooo you have to agree with the normies and r*dditors, i.e. the people that make up the majority of shitters>they, the shitters, consistently share the opinion of shitters>so agree with them now or you won't be likeable!!!!!Oh noooo.....Oh well, too bad so sad. Will continue to actually base things off reality instead of ur feefees :)
>>2501588> Ignores blatant evidence in favor of delusionally defending a game with bad audioI too, pull shit out of my ass despite evidence to the contrary and refer to that as """reality""'
Is it me or has hitreg and desync been actively getting worse each season?
>>2504155Well, considering how the completely fucked server tick rates have never been fixed or upgraded since season 1, you're probably right
>>2504155I think it depends on what you use. Normal bullets are mostly fine, but any hybrid guns like the KS-23 and Chimera have been really weird lately
aaaaaa why the fuck did the mp5 have to be the low ammo gun for lightits so much fucking cooler than the m11 and i just wanna run and gun with it
Where's the update niggly
Too much Alfa Acta and Tits in the pass, but risk reward coming back is cool. I just expected more of a rules roulette based on the preview in the schedule
This new battlepass is so ass, LH1 is garbo, flamefarter looks horrible, fcar looks decent but it can't carry this shit pass alone, I'm not a troon who plays this game for dress up, I want cool cosmetics that fit the theme of the season instead of this overpriced sponsor trash
>>2500609bad footsteps audio has been my most hated bug since release, second maybe to no reg on winch10 seasons and I still can't hear a dickhead breathing behind me and this issue is shared among my friends too
>>2518349Genuine question, are a bulk of people using that night mode option for audio? I could be retarded but I remember it making foot steps easier to hear, but it made it harder to track where the sounds were coming from. I remember a bunch of shitty youtubers were pushing people to use it a long while back, but I'm guessing people have since switched off after realizing the downsides. Early in the finals life I remember complaining about audio not seeming right and everyone thought I was crazy. I don't wanna be one of those it works on my machine guys, but I can very much track people easier via sound in the current season compared to earlier ones. I run riot myself and had my own fill of audio related issues. For a shitzillion seasons I had to deal with it making a weird clanking sound even while idle. They only fixed that relatively recently by comparison. I can only assume next season they're gonna ramp that up and make it super audible so melee in general can't get the drop on anyone anymore.
Reddit is bitching about the female skin in the safehouse pass because they're all gay as fuck and like men
>>2518542she's hot
>>2518651I didn't buy the last one of these but I bought this one just for the tits.Embark knows what sells
>>2498602Do you think it's too optimistic to believe that this game is going to have actual matchmaking before season 20?I really don't feel like coming back next season if I'm still going to be level 110 and getting literal noobs on my team below level 30
>>2519617I really want more casual continuous match mode and the server browser to glue things together
>>2519617Embark is decent at responding to massive backlash. If which this is currently the main thing people are complaining about.So I can see them changing some stuff around
>>2519617This is the only game I've ever played that makes me wish I was legitimately a noob again. If you're high-level and play solo, like fucking 6/10 of your random teammates WILL be noobs throwing and completely clueless as to why you are mad at them. Hell, some of them have even have tried to shit-talk me and they literally don't even have a fourth of my wins, kills, or revives. This has been happening for 10 seasons straight. Don't expect that to change anytime soon, if ever.
>>2518542Instead of making light/med feminine builds with bigger busts (and even a fem heavy build that isn't roided out looking disgusting), they did this retarded shit by making unisex tops into female ones by adding tits to them. It's beyond retarded. If they're gonna add tits, and they should, they should do it the right way.
>>2520760This is probably easier then having to retroactively adjust every clothing item in the game
>>2521211Yeah a ~$300 million gaming studio shouldn't be taking "easy" shortcuts like these.
>>2520605I had 100 times more fun in the second closed beta and open beta when everyone was just fucking about and didn't know any strats and every gun was busted
>>2520605i'll never forget that medium on point break that would just defib people in the middle of a firefight and then act standoffish and mad when everyone in the team told him to stop doing that or atleast bring the bodies somewhere safe.He was wearing the arc raiders promo skin and was level like 20.
>>2522748Understandable on his part then. He was contributing as much as a guy his level could, and in-game chat is always terrible for teaching players in a high pace game. People doing so in the moment always gives way to insult and nagging Weird thing to "never forget." Like it's just a small thing on Point Break. Annoying, yeah, but it's also the silly big team side mode.
>>2522802Not really understandable when we tell him kindly not to, he tells us to fuck off and explain why what he's doing is bad, we once again explain it to him and he goes "yeah idc shut up". Bare in mind, none of us insulted him, we just told him that by doing that he's not helping. If he was truly a noob, he'd have just excused himself and tried to learn from it, instead he opted to be toxic about it. I get everyone was a noob at one point, but there's being a noob and staying a noob.
>>2520605Don't worry, the new Finals Academy, Onboarding and Bot matches will definitely fix the issue and bring in a bajillion trillion players back
Servers? Still badWeapons? Still unbalancedOp specs? Still unnerfed Maps? Still assCashout? Still not reworked Bugs? Still presentCheaters? Still protectedThe Major? Won't watch itThe game? Won't play itCya in season 15, maybe they'll have stable servers with decent tick rate!
>>2523394How do I downvote this twitter post
>>2523913You gotta ask Embark_Rob for a buttplug and you can use the lovense sharing feature
How do i get the moth off my monitor hes been here for 4 days now
>>2498602Where do you homosexuals stand on the nerf dash vs nerf winch debate? I for one, believe Heavy's crutching of the winch is necessary because the class has 0 mobility or quick movement. It is very easy to be boxed in and hunted down by rabid M11 Lights when you're a sluggish fat fuck with no escape abilities, ergo winch makes sense. Just tighten up it's wonky, egregious hitbox. Conversely, Light's entire kit is so painfully good (Except for grapple, grapple is mega dogshit jank) that giving the class 2 dashes instead of 3 will hardly make a dent in it's identity or overall efficiency.If Light loses 1 dash? Who cares? I will still play Light.If Heavy loses winch? Hell no. For the sake of my sanity, I will never play that morbidly obese punching bag ever again. Fuck you, Embark.
>>2524438People who complain about winch get range checked and never play with their team. The cool down is pretty unforgiving but just being locked into the animation is bad enough. Plus winch is the only tool that can reliably and accurately relocate vaults, it even has some depth in it's uses (hook on return, upwards hook, 13+2 range, and so on). Doesn't help that the other spec choices are situational at best and mediocre at worst. I think players frustration comes with the fact that heavies usually have an escort, since they ironically have limited survivability if they push solo, which is why they feel getting winched in a 3/2v1 is unfair. But it really isn't.I feel like if they don't want to remove a dash charge, the leas they could do is put a cool down between use so you can't spam Left right left right. Maybe like a 0.5 or 1s cool down between uses.Funny to consider that this is the exact measure they took to mitigate mesh shield spam when you think about it.
>>2524438I doubt they'd outright remove winch, it's not something crazy like recon senses.
>>2524438The debate is poisoned, since I've seen many people call winches a panic button. Too many people look at Heavy and think it's unskilled ez modo and that every time they Charge or Shield or Winch that they're actually on their last legs and are throwing it out without thinkingMost likely a symptom of how many players think they "deserve" a win in this game, and will immediately think everything else is unfair or unearned if they lose to it, which makes it all the harder to discuss what's actually disproportionate or not.
>>2524438I think both are fine and ppl who complain about shit are just bad at this game desu
>>2524438Kill yourself winch fag
>>2498773>terrible weapons that just make bad players seetheOh no! I can only imagine how bad they'll make them!
I will never be able to understand why this game never took off.Gamers are a different kind of retarded.
>>2528833Too different from other shooters and normies are buckbroken by AI voice acting, despite modern voice acting being dogshit.
>>2528833You know why the game never took off: it has no recognizable characters, the announcers don't really have any personality, there is virtually no matchmaking, and despite allegedly being "The world's greatest gameshow" the game itself doesn't feel much like a gameshow at all. If The Finals was a balanced hero shooter actually in the vein of a gameshow, I guarantee it would've been 2x or 3x more popular.
>>2528833It's too different between the cashout mechanics and the destruction. You've also only got a 25-33% chance of winning and you can lose to entirely wacky shit, so it really pisses off the modern audience that generally expects fair and deserved wins when they play "right"
>>2528833from the reactions some of my friends and others there was a misconception that it'd just be a battle royale game.
>>2530068A lot of people heard "squads" and "eliminations" and "extract the cash" and completely checked out before hearing anything else
>>2530104it's a shame that happened
>>2530272*basedsorry, typo
>>2528833>no marketable personality, announcers are AI voiceover and the aesthetic of the game is "real life+some gameshow shit pasted over it+whatever costumes you decide to wear with no real consistent artstyle therein>original gamemode that is unironically too thinky for the average shooter player>original gamemode that is too volatile for the average comp shooter player to play it and stay sane we are roughly in the titanfall zone of "shooter autists love it, everyone else bounces off"
>>2530317what word did you mistype
>>2528833>Shadow dropped at an event nobody cared about>Still got record breaking numbers despite that>Game had incredibly poor onboarding, the tutorial was really really bare ones and explained next to none of the mechanics properly (it didn't even teach you that you could grab revive statues)>When looking from the outside, understanding what this game is even about is a challenge, the trailers were all flashy colours and shootouts and many assumed it was some sort of battle royale or extraction shooter>Visually distinct but generic at the same time, which is inline with making it a "gameshow" but overall hurt the presentation more than anything>The default player models and sets were really ugly>No text chat until Season 3, only VC and it's on par with Xbox Live mic quality (even now)>So social interactions and partying up weren't common (not entirely the Finals' fault though, it's just how gamers are)>SEVERE lack of game modes at launch and the LTMs were all "Solo Bank it but with Gimmick Load out">Lack of maps but also the maps at launch themselves we're not great (Vegas Tripwires and Turrets for example)>Server issues and general bugs (like the old friends list bug, the can't run bug or can't shoot bug)>Exploits and ReWASD were discovered almost immediately, some even carried over from the beta (like being able to shoot through mesh shields)>But because embark is a swedish studio, they released the game a couple of weeks before their mandatory 3 month vacation, so cheaters festered and hurt the reputation of the game hard>Very poor weapon balancing, Light was the throw pick, the FCAR and SA12 stomped over everything else in their respective class and Recon Sense was legit wall hacks with no way of the enemy knowing (except a very faint audio queue that was easy to spot. They would later add a SPOTTED warning, but it was basically more of a warning that you were about to get jumped by a team)>NukesIt could have never been mainstream
>>2530723>except a very faint audio queue that was easy to spotFuck I meant it was hard* to spotPicture the sonar nade audio but 70% quieter and with no visual queue + only audible when the user activated RS
>>2530723Ironically, performance itself WASN'T an issue. This game ran perfectly fine at launch, even on somewhat older hardware. That one became more of an issue as time went on. It's a very CPU intensive game.
Years later, and complaints about the S1 FCAR is STILL outin niggas
>>2530772Fag
I started using the MG32. I don't even think it's that bad desu. You just need to bank shots and play close to your teammates in case you get rushed down.
>>2531385*MGL
>>2528833I picked it up today. It's pretty fun, very smooth, nice visuals. Confusing in nearly every way. Beginner variety is kinda shit? I haven't played with everything, but with as spastic as people are with their jumping around and sliding, it makes inaccurate weapons or non-automatic a pain in the ass. I stick with the M11 and it does its job. None of the others I have tried are all that fun.There is a lot of stuff going on at once, too. I generally don't play PvP games anymore, I only tried this because it was free. But there's shit all over at all times. Different gadgets, grenades, like i saw a guy run at me and eat an entire mag, didn't shoot me at all, then open a hole in the ground, the cache fell in, then I died as soon as I looked down from the same guy who opened the hole that was no longer there. Scanner Grenades would help me immensely, but the "glitch" effect that follows them makes it more of a hinderance really. I don't know. It's fun, I will play it a bit tomorrow and see if it clicks once i unlock more stuff, cause my selection now is lacking.
>>2531385The MGL32 is incredibly solid. The damage is still usable single target, and it's a mean mother when it comes to splash damage, but holy shit, the advantage from bank shots is unparalleled. Being able to get damage in without direct LOS is absolutely godly, especially since when you pair it with stable accuracy, your 500lb ass can constantly dance around cover in close quarters while banking off the walls to still get YOUR damage inThe only thing really holding it back is that it doesn't explode on contact with contestants. It's a mild nuisance when above or equal with them, since you can usually bank it and get what you want, but forget attacking anyone above you at allIf they added like, direct hits, I think that's fair, and if they did a minor damage nerf if the grenade explodes without banking or its timer running out, then it'd be inexcusable not to add immediately. Especially since the aps and shields can easily be ran to counter it if it got too good
>>2528833the art style looked like generic androgynous dogshit from the get go, which given Arc Raiders is apparently Embark's signature art style from here on out.What does Mr Finals look like, someone you can put on a shirt and recognize the IP? Fornite has Jonesy and Minecraft has Steve. I don't think most players would recognize that weird egg thing outside of the game.Also the game is pretty experimental as in no player base for the launch gamemodes existed prior, let alone something with as much destruction and movement.
>>2533561This game has a STEEP learning curve. It looks simple at first but you will have games where you go 1 and 20 when you're just starting. You honestly just have to get your ass kicked for hours before you start picking up on the nuances of the game. Just remember that positioning is god is this game. It matters more where you are and when you're there than being some aimgod.
>>2533824unpopular take but as a shooter I don't think the game has much of a learning curve at all. like every other shooter its finding out what weapons and abilities do what, its honestly very simple at its core
>>2536881You must have never played with people who are new to the game. The main complaint they all have is how hard it is to learn. It has simple mechanics and weapons but it's everything else that makes it hard.
>>2536881Hard disagree. Playing this game well requires constantly ticking a lot of small bits of game knowledge regarding things like timers and ammo and thresholds, and big things like completely reevaluating the standard concepts of rotations, positions, and cover due to destruction It's not incredibly deep mechanically, but instead it's a constant barrage of choices and adaptation. You need to be constantly on top of things or else you will lose control, and not to mention how you will just lose control anyways and then need to know how to ride that wave.Knowing what you should be doing in any situation has a ton of layers and it takes a long while to learn how they all intersect, and even longer to learn when it's the right moment to throw them all away and just go ham with the big dumb play no one would expect It's everything that people find to be complex and engaging about other tactical or objectives-focused shooter but yet also one where tactics can go out the window because someone flipping the objective onto its side and now it's a free for all cash rush in the final minute
How do I git gud
>>2538745try clicking on the enemy players with red health bars
>>2538757They keep moving away from my reticle
>>2537267NTA but I think if you came from any FPS background with even a slight amount of movement I don't think its too hard to adapt and figure it out. I got my shit pushed in when I started season 1 because I was playing against people who were in the beta or just clocked in more hours in FPSs than me, but got somewhat better by merely observing what weird untraditional strats people were using. Stalling cash boxes with jump pads after blowing out the ceiling, sliding into giant boost pads to gain extra distance, using goo to build outside of building to hide from an enemy. Its all really just a collection of really goofy shit you have to experiment with. The only people I've seen/heard struggle are people that come from other popular FPSs and try to play the finals like one of those. It just doesn't fully translate like that. I fuck people over with demat all the time because they think they're safe hunkering down in a corner with their gun up. People who have learned from that shit counter it by raising the cash box and supporting it with goo. I try not to be shitty and say its a skill issue, but l can appreciate the few that learn from their mistakes and come up with creative counters instead of getting mad.I don't see this as a super complex game, its just a game filled with chaotic moments and the team that can adjust quickest will come out on top.
>>2536881>>2538870Post playercards.NOW.
>>2540736There's no point if you're trying to compare win/loss ratios. I can count on one hand the number of games I intentionally left in my 1700+ hours of gameplay and those were only done because either I or my teammate picked the wrong game mode. I'll play a match to completion win or lose. Anyone sitting in the positives in a game where you're competing in most cases 2-3 other teams is a shitter who abandons games constantly or cheating. Not saying its impossible, but the odds are highly against you considering the dynamic nature of the game.
>>2540781> I figured this game out, it's not super complex or particularly difficult, bro > Yet I will not post my playercard, ever That's what I figured. Don't talk all that good shit next time if you don't want your bluff called, noob.
>>2540736It is genuinely difficult trying to keep this 2:1 revive to kill ratio since I started playing
>>2540907and for the record i was anon#1 who posted the unpopular take
>>2540868You don't have to ragebait to keep the thread alive retard-kun
>>2541208> Braindead zoomie that uses the term "ragebait" falls for the most obvious ragebaitMany such cases. Works on your kind all the time desu. Filtered bigly
Can't wait for embark to fix this dogshit hitreg I'm so sick of my crosshair kissing the enemy's face and just not hitting.
Thoughts on the new tits?Why did they give us these saggy ones? They look so bad. Doesn't even look like she's wearing a bra with how low they are.Gaming devs are allergic to making hot chicks I swear
>>2549430I like tits, just wish they were part of the bodies instead of being part of cosmetics, making your options more limited.pic unrelated
>>2549430If we're lucky we'll get a body rework option like the heavy. Having body changes be tied to cosmetics is really lame.
>>2549430>no bra>straps covering nipples
>>2549430Those aren't saggy tits, just on the smaller side. You're too used to plastic instagram bbl demons and anime if you think those are saggy. Also I'd rather have this then the washing board female cosmetics we've been getting.
>>2550735could be flatter
>>2550735You're fucking retarded. I showed this to my gf and she agreed that they're too low. A good bra is supposed to lift them up a bit for a better aesthetic unless you're eggless and don't plan on looking hot then there's granny bras for femcels. They're sagging as if there's no bra. The devs are clearly culture war brained stuck in 2016 and are gonna hide behind "le realism" when in reality they're doing this to lower the sexual appeal (muh male gaze)And yes, any tits is better than no tits but these saggy tits are tied to that cosmetic so there's that
>still no ranked solo queueIt's like embark wants this game to die
>>2551664There's alot of things embark is not doing that indicate that they don't care if this game lives or dies.
Maining medium is fucking torture. I hate being focused by every fucking light in the lobby and then having them complain that the FCAR is broken (it isn't)
>>2553413Shut up and keep playing the victim class so I can farm you, sissybitchDaddy needs a new shiny Emerald badge
>>2551664but then the whitelisted ruby groups would get mad
Heavy is heavy
>>2540736Mostly play TDM (and break point since it was added) Don't usually have enough time for the tournament modes, but they're fun when I can play them.
>>2540736Mostly solo queue on quick cash so I don't win many games.
>>2540736I've only played point break since it was added
Man, if only the ORF Knight pants were blue. Feel like they'd fit way better with this idea than the old pants.
>>2562120This'll do for now
>people bitch about melee weapons because they kill them in melee range>only works on bad players and good players just shoot and out maneuver them>embark decides the best way to address these complaints is to say they say hate melee weapons being strong in melee>so they nerf them to be worse against good players and better against bad playersIs this just a Swedish thing?
>>2562187look up law of Jante and you will understand why swedish studios are like this. Melee should have never been ingame
>>2562187meleegers day of the rope will come
Frankly, Melee will always be hated, because to be good at it, you have to be a really good player, so just equipping a melee weapon at all is a violent act against very psyche of scrubs. You're someone who's really good that's purposefully taking a handicap, against a really bad player that's limiting his weapon selection by taking any advantage he can, and he's still gonna lose.
>>2562814>> Melee will always be hated, because to be good at it, you have to be a really good playerYeahhh, that's not what Embark has said. Spamming left click in a game with almost no footstep audio doesn't take skill all desu.
My man
>>2563884they'll do anything but never ever ever actually fix bugs or audio issues
>>2564139>this "issue" only ever affects me and other scrubs with lack of situational awareness>and they never fixed the "issue" despite how big it'd be--if it actually existedYou're soooooooooooo close to figuring it out
>faggot retard with no job and no friends still trying to ragebait people into arguments over stupid shit because no one wants to talk to him otherwise Really wish boards like this have thread IDs
>>2563884>Errrm sorry sweatie that's not what COMPANY saidyeah they're often good sources for truthful and complete information
>>2564570As opposed to one of the shittiest, most russian-bot filled imageboard full of bad faith actors ever?Yeah, actually
>>2564713do not insult my home imageboard and my friends!
Started playing with the ks-23 recently, I think I get the appeal now
>>2564863It's a fantastic feeling gun, but its design is just so counterintuitive and its effectiveness is underwhelming, so I find it hard to really lean into it.It's definitely more reliant on teamplay than the MGL32 so I definitely opt for that more than the KS-23
>emeralds bitching at me in unranked power shift>win regardlesswhy do faggots carried to green rank bully me when they have more deaths and less objective time in the overwatch mode? are they fucking retarded?
>>2566202emerald don't mean shit man
>>2566202Why are you so afraid of greenies that you have to run here every time they shit on you in the match, rather than hashing out your beef then and there.
>>2566202You do realize that The Finals has one of the most dogshit, nonsensical ranking systems of all time, yes?Whether someone is Emerald or Ruby is irrelevant. Fucking 80% of wins in this game boil down to luck, timing, and respawn placements as opposed to any semblance of gunskill or big-brain IQStop being scared, jit
>Attacking on Starlight Hollow and getting blown the fuck out>Being spawn camped and completely outmatched>Our team begins leaving>It comes down to three of us left, all just died, and only 1 ticket remaining>Faced with certain defeat and only one way out, we deploy the Attackers Ultimate Strategy>collectively we decide not to spawn>Wills forged of steel and bonded together, we wait out the defenders>One by one they crumble, leaving the game>Until only one of them remains>While he is far enough away, one of us spawns, revives the others, and we can leave the spawn and arm the sites>The remaining player runs into all three of us, dies, and quits>The game apparently doesn't end just because the other team is all gone>We three, stronger than ever, push forward unopposed and arm every objective on the mapI will be thinking of this game for years to come, good work brothers
>>2566202nooo you have to let them talk shit!!!
I like ORFI hope they're made a Sponsor
>>2572260gumball ass dudes they know what they was doing
My game keeps stuttering its even worse than a few weeks agoi updated my intel gpu driver, or some pc cleaner that fucked up the shaders
>>2573758>Intel GPUI'll pray for you this weekend. Inshallah.
>>2572260tsmt I want more ORF cosmetics.
Just picked this game up again, last I played was near launch and had a tonne of fun grappling and snipingTrying to get good with the recurve bow now but every time I get into a fight the game becomes a stutter fest and it throws my aim way off, my perf stats show solid 60fps and 10-20ms frame time, wtf is going on, wasn't like this last time
>>2576403prease understand, unreal engine
>>2573758> Intel> GPUThanks for beta testing, retard
started playing yesterday this game is pretty fun
>>2580675glad you're enjoying it anon
>>2580675what gun and character weight do you use anon
>>2576070Reddit sponsor
>>2580675Post dopamine test results or you're a lying scrub
>>2577209i pick unpopular budget slop out of spite of you autistis and normies and i have no regerts
>>2582440Cute animals are reddit ig
>>2580675what do you find most fun, movement, destruction or weapons?
>>2580675Kill yourself, NOW.
Was the ks-23 buffed? This gun feels fucking incredible right now
>>2588219It's got a lot of buffs to its feel, although nothing changing its actual strength
I hate the fcar and its recoil pattern and its low rate of fire so much but its the only gun with a pose I like in the main menu so I must use it
>>2582440Spamming cute animals is definitely reddit coded
>>2580675Nice larp, faggot>>2589886
>>2589886FCAR's main menu gun pose sucks lol. FAMAS has one of the best lobby poses in first person and in 3rd person
>>2591100I am fcar hater please don't yell at the new players!
>>2591155>what is an altThis game is infested with cheaters that are on their 1000th alt after getting banned over and over. Stop larping.
>>2593866you're larping
Hmm yes it feels like a good idea to queue a game right now this sunday night, surely theres no premade stacks around at this hour
what're you guys' thoughts on the winchclaw? I personally think it's fine as is atmI've heard people say it's too strong but I think it's that the other heavy specs aren't as good (except mesh and googun because it's made to be a weird pick)
>>2597165Shut up you retarded gay bitch, we already had winch discussion last threadKeep up
>>2597190my bad I didn't see
>>2597217Kiss me. You type in lowercase letters like a bottom. Let's have passionate, steamy, gay sex
>>2597231I'm good thanks
>>2597165used it and didnt really like it
>>2597247You're asking for it, you whoreYour body, my choice
the usual backfill game
>>2540736I don't play cashout too often.Tons of TDM/Point Break and a bit of Powershift though.
>>2597165Bad bait, retard
>>2597316kek
>>2597642What is even the point of backfilling in these trash lobbies? If it's not obvious outright, it's easy to figure out within the first minute why the other guy left lol
>>2597165I'd say it's mostly fine. Disabling movement always feels kinda ass, but the effect you get out of it isn't too far out of line of what you get from other specs and gadgets. The utility in moving shit around is really fun and useful too.>other heavy specs aren't as goodPeople just really do not respect the Slam. They constantly call it shit like a panic button and what not, and they have zero appreciation for its ability to quickly reposition you into the next two rooms over. I'd say a lot of it is that a lot of players are shoot happy retards that don't take the value in running away or otherwise retreating to a superior position. CnS just becomes a damage or prep ability with that mindset, while its super strong capability to get you out of jams is dismissed.
>>2601196I like slam even if its some kind of noob trap that doesnt work at higher levels. one of my favourite kits is just like destructionmaxxing with nade launcher, rpg, slam etc
>>2598664Simply form a musical troupe and bond with your team when you backfill into something horrid
>>2601464>even if its some kind of noob trap that doesnt work at higher levelsEverything works at all levels. "High Level" niggas don't want you to use everything because it pokes holes in their meta and they have to do the embarrassing act of begging for even meme tier melee weapons to get nerfed.They eventually get what they want because Embark caters like that, but even then they still hate to grovel and living with how they had to act, so whenever you hear someone go>oh that's not ACTUALLY viable in any REAL lobbyyou know it's some fuckass fraud doing triage for his ego
>>2597165Only really good heavy specialization now. I hate the precedent of M's and H's specializations being nerfed into the ground while Liggers remain mostly untouched.
>>2601520Still waiting on them to add more group taunts, like ones that actually wait for everyone to join in before it starts. The code HAS to be there, since musical taunts will sync.
https://www.reachthefinals.com/patchnotes/respec-order-2https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MJSpgSnX24
>>2607131>overall survey reaction is that no one cared>overall change to cohesion was basically nothingOh great so they're not gonna push those changes the-->"We saw that Heavy got less wins, which is what we considered balanced">"And Lights got picked more and won more"Ah shit, they're gonna ram these changes through then. They probably came on the spot seeing those numbers.
>>2607147Why is Embark trying to appeal to Liggers so hard?? Fucking COD kid class
>>2607178Because it's the worst class?
https://www.reachthefinals.com/patchnotes/10-120>H+ Infuser Decreased H+ Infuser healing per shot from 14 to 11. Dev Note: The H+ has become the more dominant healing device in the game, in part due to its own power, in part due to the Light’s mobility and survivability compared to the Medium. This change is to address some of that dynamic, although longer term we’d also like to look at the Medium’s survivability in higher end play as well. There's also Respec Order 2.0 going on for two weeks.https://www.reachthefinals.com/patchnotes/respec-order-2
>>2610108So bad comp players were going HLL
>>2611321nvm just saw the H+ nerf lmao rest in piss.
Man I fucking love point break. Sometimes you just get a really good lobby. Where both sides are pretty balanced and it becomes this long 30+ minute match where it becomes this war of attrition just trying to gain ground and constantly running in and reviving to conserve tokens and finally getting everyone together and coordinating one final push to get to the last box.It's so good.
>>2612582Oh but also they should totally raise the WT points you get from this mode. You get 4 for winning and 2 for losing. Which is insanely bad because you can legitimately be in a 20-30+ minute long game and then lose and you ONLY get 2 points which is pretty bullshit for the amount of time you played.
>>2612589I'd probably be emerald if they gave as much as quick cash for the same amount of time
>>2612589>>2613758They really need to add a different rank for just Cashout then. Ranked players got to whine and cry all the way home about how something even as basic as Gold-Plat needs to have its unique rewards preserved, but Emerald? Yeah let's just constantly devalue that by going from tourney wins to just WT points and now to just playing any and every mode. If they're gonna make it so any mode becomes a viable path to Emerald, then there needs to be something for the niggas that actually play real Finals. Can't claim it's "the world's greatest gameshow" but then the only one that gets special treatment is the one that turns all the game show shit off.
>>2614508Ruby already exists anon what are you talking about
>>2615116>Rubyif you aint playing in a mode with gameshow events on then you're a fraudsowwy :3c
Did they tone down the accuracy of the guns yet? I stopped playing like a year ago because the game has been ass since season 3
>>2617575It's like the opposite actually. Emerald is just a cumulative rank while Ruby is something you actually have to work and be good at the game for.
>>2619790There's not a blanket accuracy stat on every gun. Every gun is different
>>2619808They changed how easy it is to land your shots in season 3 and it hasn't changed since like season 7. The game went from tactical and chaotic to playing like every other fps on the market
>>2619791>be good at the game for>has game show events disabledUh, I'm pretty sure you actually have to play the game in order to be good at it.
Is this game full of smurfs? I swear it is. I liked the game. I'm okay with getting teamed up with other noobs like me. But at least I don't want to fight level 26's aimbot hook heavies and M11 Lights that parkours everywhere.The worst part it if I lose, I lose rank points too.
>>2632247It's a mix of "anyone that wouldn't be great at the game gets filtered out super quickly" and "yes definitely there's smurfs"
>>2632247If they're a light they're probably a Smurf. That's the braindead COD class.If they're heavy then there's a chance they're not because winch claw is just genuinely fucking broken and stupid.
>>2632247Embark doesn't ban pros who openly smurf, take a wild fucking guess
stopped playing this game after this season lauched, never felt betterit unironically was better during the betas when everything was busted. I miss the sensor granade having antennas.
>>2619791> Implying Ruby isn't mostly filled with literal cheaters recoil scriptingYou're far more likely to see a cheater with a Ruby badge than with an Emerald badge.Ranked is a joke in this game anyways, The Finals should never have had a ranked mode. It just doesn't have a balanced framework for any sort of competitive environment.
>>2634142getting rugpulled a win through no fault of your own isn't funnow that happening when rank score is on the line? rage inducingthere's a reason why the more popular gamemodes are just 5v5 or 8v8 moshpits "us vs them" style. Cuz they're fun. Cashout is too complex for it's own good. It's the gamemode everyone thinks is cool in their mind but then isn't.and the servers suck balls but that's been a thing since launch so
>>2634173What, you don't like getting deranked because the dead last team with a grand total of 4 kills doubled your cashbox at the last second while you were getting 3rd partied?Luck has nothing to do with The Finals bro, it's a game of pure skill that you should bet your ELO on, otherwise you're bad!!!111The Finals is the CS:GO of multiplayer shooters bro, you just don't get how high of an IQ you need to play it
>>2634376my bad bro, I gotta spend more time in aimlabs and kovakks
>>2632247Yes and cheaters
>>2634376>cares about kills when judging other teams>consistently loses to third partyingI swear this is a venn diagram that's just a circle
just won a game of point break as the defenderstry not to be too upset
>>2639450There is no such thing as a Venn Diagram that's a singular circle. That's just called a circle. Go be mentally disabled somewhere else, you invalid.
>>2597165I still think it should have had lower cool down and should not be able to grab players at all. The game is at its best when you're encouraged to think outside the box, and grabbing the enemy is not a creative tool at all and it hurts when moving objects or grabbing throwables is an actual fun way to play winch
>>2634376There is nothing more fun than winning with a good plan and no shots fired
Damn this corset looks fucking weird. I was excited when I saw the trailer but now I'm not too sure
>>2644865Most of the new cosmetics they're putting out are fully designed with Light and Medium in mind, not Heavy.
Is this game fun if I just want mindless counterstrike match after work
Damn, you can get cucked from being MVP if someone decides to revive teammates
>be finals ruby youtuber>make video accusing embark of false banning players>2 weeks later upload a video promoting a controller with macroshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nntktf4jYJ0https://www.youtube.com/post/UgkxzqLcFYqhIaWz3tTLST2xooDm5slsx0-a
>>2649426NA servers just be different, are the players all mentally challenged there? You're also playing on a roller too and they're on PC, how is this happening
>>2649635I'm playing in EU, I'm on mnk but playing through the xbox pc app for gamepass xp bonus.
>>2649635>NA servers just be differentZe cope and posturing is endless
>>2649665that's even worse wtf>>2649667it's the truth
This game could use some social tools like letting you set a bio that others can view when they check you, and you could put your discord/steam and playtimes and stuff in there. Feels so barebones
>have good stats>have to carry literally every single point break match because the game puts fresh installs on your team and cheaters + rubies on the enemy team>decide to go just afk for a few matches and see what happens>get steamrolled every single time>make a new account and throw a few games>0 kills, tens of deaths>go afk in point break>get carried three games in a row>try to sabotage the match by killing yourself over and over again>get carried despite thisthis shit is so rigged
>>2652321the only winning move is not to play
>>2652321shouldn't your fresh install account be like example 1, going against rubies and cheaters?
>>2652321>I AFK matches>I am a reliable narratorThese two facts are incompatible
>>2652321>go afk>get steamrolledwhat else did you expect
>"triggerbotlegend" is topscoring>looks like a cheater but not sure>win the match anyway because you're playing heavy>look up steam name on the finals leaderboard>can't find steam but can find discord>very first messages are of him complaining about getting banned for cheating for no reason
I really like this female heavy creature. As a female light main, I would let her headpat me.
>>2656057femlight is made for headpats and cuddling
>>2529367
>>2655949burying myself in heavy's voluptuous bosom
Respec 2.0 is absolute fucking dogshit. Swedes aren't human
>>2659793It's worse than that. Respec 2.0 is just fucking nothing. It's the same as before: it does absolutely nothing except in a very few select situations you might notice>oh if it weren't for the HP changes, I wouldn't have won/lost that interactionOtherwise it's a complete non-factor. I've had entire matches where I just forget it's even in play because it basically does nothing other than let Light poke more safely or have a bit more wiggle room on suicide trade strats.
>>2655949racism cuz name
>>2649667Nah theres something fundamentally different about all online fps games with NA vs EU, for various reasons i cba going into
>>2644865
Reported
>>2666574This.Notably, EU servers generally have much worse players despite trying way harder, because subconsciously can't get the past that they're playing a profoundly American genre and will never be the main or most notable audience.
>>2666920>Notably, EU servers generally have much worse players despite trying way harderBecause EU gamers are mostly PC users and when they play on consoles, it's mostly not competitive FPS games.Im EU fag and i play at night when burgers are awake and normally i get americans quite often in my team, but after i disabled crossplay, because of aimbot controller light niggers, i can barely encounter any american in my team. After disabling crossplay my overall experience went miles more pleasant and encountering any kind of bullshit was rescued by 85%
>>2667974one the few times I ever went into NA crossplay servers (just to fuck about) I met 2 niggers that were hotmicing the whole time and sucked ass. I meant ACTUAL black people playing on PS5 (since it has mic on by default).
Anyone else getting freezes before/after almost every match during the loading screen?
>>2666920NA = team working = skillesss lemmings, but can occasionally rub their brain cells together and win as a unitEU = selfish autists = more skillful but less cohesive
>>2669776The language barrier is real, when you play EU there are so many different languages that fall into that category that it's easy for misunderstandings to happen. Plus a lot of us just don't use mics or text chat.NA just loves to talk all the time. VC or chat, they'll always talk. Which is cool but most of the time they run their mouth more than their hands.If I could filter by language, god I would, no more filfthy russians or arabs
Where's the S11 details, niggly
>>2674142it'll be shit by design so s12 will make you cum your socks off, nevermind that s12 will come during TGM so no real gamechanges will happen due to it.
HAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAOh boy. Here we go again. All 3 outfits look so fucking bad. Pure slop
>>2680442Why the fuck are they waiting until the launch to show anything substantial about the new season? does embark just not want to advertise the finals anymore?
>>2680442You know, you don't need to shitpost in order to bump the thread. People can easily talk about how these outfits are fukken sick and have a lot of mix-and-match potential with previous seasons especially without you needing to bait it out.
>>2680442damn the last 3 months went fast
>>2680667Nah this shit is ass
>>2680442kek, finals and arc got dogshit cosmetics at the same time
>>2681860Stunning commentary and such opinionated dialogue
>>2685810As opposed to the immense insight gleaned from consoomer glazing with remarks like "peak" and "absolute cinema"?
>melee season>space themedwell it doesn't matter, I won't play it anyways
>>2686062What an odd thing to say, considering that no such posts exist in this thread
>>2686202>game discussion does not exist outside of the weeb pedophile forumLeast retarded embark dickrider
>>2686363>your post in this thread is garbage>oh yeah, but what about unrelated posts elsewhere on the internet that some random guy you don't know might have made, in a way that's completely irrelevant to this conversation????>also you're all weebs and pedophiles!!!!!Is this the kind of tourist that twitter is sending these days?
>>2686412no one is sending anybody to a 4chan The Finals general on vm
>>2686412>discussing the same exact game elsewhere on the interwebz >irrelevant to this conservation Retard>also you're all weebs and pedophilesThis but unironically >!!!!!You sound like a faggot
Apex Legends Global Series starts next week!!! Uh, I mean...THE FINALS Grand Majors - AmericasOn...right meow!
>>2686062It's equal to what you were saying, just on the other side of the coin
Heavy and Light irl
Turret p90 mediums should be lined up and shot
>>2688256but why
>>2499682embark made the repeater and crossbow for the sole purpose of making this poor thing obsolete. i loved her since season 4, and she's been my guilty pleasure on the side, but i cant use her now. not with the amount of nerfs theyve given her
>>2529367>If The Finals was a balanced hero shooter actually in the vein of a gameshowthat's not true. fragpunk is a hero shooter that no one really cares for
>>2687786>le both sides brainletIt looks like shit to me. I don't need to type out an essay for basic negative feedback. You people wouldn't be saying any shit if I had just said "omggg this looks amazeballs 100 wholesome keanu". Glazers don't have to explain themselves or be accused of not contributing "meaningfully" to a discussion about a video game.
2689526this is a great example of how masturbatory haters arefirst is that they don't understand that a forum is for talking with other people, whereas they just wanna lazily jizz their thoughts out, so they view actually saying anything in an interactive way as an "essay" (even though their shit is so non-interactive that even people agreeing with them have no avenue to talk further about it except to shallowy circlejerk)the second is that they say "you people," but as shown already with 2686363 and 2686805, they don't actually mean the people they're talking to. they mean the redditors and posters on different sites that live rent free in their heads.so there's literally no reason for them to post here, because they don't want to actually talk to anyone, and they're not even factoring in the people they're whining to as they cry, but they'll still post here anyways because they're exhibitionist sluts
>>2689526>I don't need to type out an essay for basic negative feedbackfair enough, was just letting you know since you brought up the other posting style.
I hope they bring back the new barricade system soon, the benefit of it outweighed the bugs that it had
>>2688256if you die to a turret that's on you
>>2690157not in that way, they're awful teammates who just throw and have no aim
>>2688951poor pike got her knees broken
>>2689667nta but half of the "discussions" here are just back and forth that concludes nothing. The other half is namecalling
https://www.reachthefinals.com/patchnotes/s11-melee-reworkSo rundown of the rework>Melee weapons now deal more damage>Precise Hits are added at the center of the sweep>If you don't hit a precise hit, you get below Pre-S11 damage>Stamina is added, giving all melee attacks a lunge>it regenerates after 2s or on a Precise Hit>Quick Melee also has Stamina, but only slow-regens>instead of a lunge, it deals a Kick that knocks back>Quick Melee damage has also been nerfedIn addition, Dual Blades have a shorter primary sequence while Block + Attack does the old cross swipe + a new lunge, Spear spins are individual now and both consume and restore Stamina, and the Sword now has "some" of its lunge rotation unlocked againOverall, sounds interesting. Will do NOTHING to solve the problem because now Melee users will be stronger than ever and gun users will continue to cry until the damage buff is removed and the Kicks stay in. Quick Melee damage getting nerfed sounds HORRIBLE as it'll mess with a ton of muscle memory, but hopefully it means slight buffs to some CQC weapons or fucking FINALLY for the KS-23I'd give it a "Sounds good but should've tested it instead of Respec Order Again"/10
>>2691684Riot shield will also get a shield bash knock back attack when attacking from the blocking position
>>2691913Yeah but who cares about Riot Shield
>>2691684Yeah no new player is staying around in S11 with this ass cancer lol
>>2691925I care
>>2691913People fail to mention that its the only melee weapon that got a damage nerf. I can only hope the swing speed was adjusted to compensate since it has the worst ttk out of all of the options. The shield bash is nice for knocking off players when they're trying to steal a cash out, but I'd rather keep my damage if it means it taking 5 hits to kill a heavy (like before) or 3 to kill a light.
>>2692328>The shield bash is nice for knocking off players when they're trying to steal a cash outNot like that's a big deal when presumably the kick will do that for everyone. I really do hope they reconsider that to some degree, or at least put in an exception if you're currently interacting with something, because the nullifer is already annoying enough as a way to stop revives and steals, but at least it's on the most fragile class and eats up a gadget slot.Some of the best moments in the game are when you as a team work together to tank a steal, but now anyone can just dive in and bop you on the head no matter the loadout, and more mobile ones could probably just zip in, do it, and then zip out. Fortifying a space with movement constricting goo just became x10 more important.
>>2692387>Fortifying a space with movement constricting goo just became x10 more important.It's almost like Embark wants to keep the medium meta GOO'd to the same FUCKING loadout since season 1 while releasing DOGSHIT gadgets like breach drill and hover pad
>>2694779>taking Goo on mediumNGMI
>>2691684>We’ve introduced some counter-play for players when facing melee users, as another way to gate melee’s increase in potential power. Isn't the counter play of shooting the guy with a knife 100 yards away enough?
>>2695145The longstanding argument is that they're frustrated by the idea of a Melee player sneaking up getting the literal drop on them and not being able to hear them approach since the game makes it hard to hear their footstepsThis of course being ridiculous for two main reasons1) If the position you're in and the angle you've taken is one that leaves you open to them literally just walking up behind or dropping on top of you without using destruction, then you've fucked up2) Close range is good for 90% of the guns in the game, and melee means they get so close that they're basically voluntarily facestuffing your gun to where you don't really even need to aim anymore, so if you have any situational awareness and even the most basic footwork, the Melee player will have the advantage but not the guaranteeSo they're making it so that everyone has a get-off-me button to try to dilute the Melee player's advantage and give the Shooter some free damage, while also catering to the complaints that Melee "doesn't have to aim" (even though neither player really does in that situation) by adding glancing blowsThey will likely still complain massively, because Melee players still aim and will thus get Precise Hits and therefore a strict damage buff with this season, and a lot of the Shooter deaths stem from players not really picking their battles betters and knowing when to run (+ most importantly be PREPARED to), and the few that DO know that GTFO instead of challenging a higher weight class are gonna get their butts stamina lunged
>>2695197>Melee players still aim and will thus get Precise Hits and therefore a strict damage buff with this season,I'm willing to bet my nuts that the increase in damage in addition with the nerf to qm damage will change zero breakpoints and might even fuck some up.
>>2695288The important thing is that more damage in any one hit is always strictly betterThe KS-23 change showed this heavily. You're not dealing damage in a vacuum. Everyone's taking hits and in any fight, you're often cleaning up after each other. While the game is all about breakpoints, yes, but the damage being more frontloaded is definitely a great thing for melee.
I play heavy with the M60 and just dadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadada
ok but why did the cosmopunk season get melee changes and the medieval season got nothingthey even showed the season 10 trailer with a riot shield stopping a sledgehammer (something you can't do and won't be able to do in s11)i hate sweden so much it's unreal
>>2698009Yea its real fucking weird how duel blades can block melee attacks but the fucking riot shield can't. You can never trust the swiggers to do the right thing.
>>2698009>riot shield stopping a sledgehammer (something you can't do and won't be able to do in s11)s11 melee changes said riotshield blocks melee
>kicking heavies like they're a soccer balla bit goofy but we'll see how that changes close range cluserfuck situations
Just tried out the riot shield in practice. Takes 5 hits to kill a heavy and 4 to kill a medium now. Its still 2 for lights. This fucking sucks
>>2701888And so the melee shitter tears begin to flow lmao
>>2701921Imagine getting filtered by the worst melee weapon
>sword light attack changed from 88 to 110>lunge got no damage buff so sits at 120>missing with the lunge cuts its range in half as your stamina gets fuckedWhy the fuck do they want people to spam the light attack like a retard so badly
So every melee combo that used QM in it has become strictly worse not just because of the damage nerf but because the kick is slower than the elbow, knocks your enemy out of your range, and uses your stamina up no matter what mean you lose your lung for the follow up. What the fuck man.
>bot matches actually count for emeraldfucking lol, i WILL NEVER touch regular cash tournaments then, with the cheating smurf cancer infesting the game
>the spear got nerfedHow do you defend this? I don't think there was a worse weapon in the game.
>>2696720I like the M60
>dash nerfed to 2 chargesTHANK YOU REDDIT HEAVYSHITTERS>YOU KILLED THE GAMETHANK YOU REDDIT HEAVYSHITTERS>YOU KILLED THE GAMETHANK YOU REDDIT HEAVYSHITTERS>YOU KILLED THE GAMETHANK YOU REDDIT HEAVYSHITTERS>YOU KILLED THE GAMETHANK YOU REDDIT HEAVYSHITTERS>YOU KILLED THE GAMETHANK YOU REDDIT HEAVYSHITTERS>YOU KILLED THE GAMEEMBARKNIGGERS TONGUE MY ANUSTHIS SHIT AIN'T WORTH 25 EXTRA HP
>>2702048>retarded flameheavies cried and shitted their diapers so much on discord that Embark went through the nerf alreadyOh well, time to uninstallHope you enjoy getting assraped by the new melee system, fat retards
>>2702048Swedes are such fucking cucks holy shit, imagine unironically listening to the most broken class in the game mains who do nothing but bitch on reddit 24/7, game needs new players and by nerfing light they killed off any chances fresh blood sticks with the game for longtermRIP the Finals, the world's greatest clownshow
qrd on the melty?
>>2702115>melee lunge can bug out and force you to use the lunge but not actually cover enough distance to hit the enemy>causes your stamina to get wasted and destroy any follow up lunges which will for sure not hit>quick melee kick is slower than regular and pushes enemies outside of range of melee lunge before you factor in that it uses your stamina no matter what>precision system itself is super buggy>most melee weapons received no changes to breakpoints or actually become worse like riot shield and spear>light got dash nerfed>certain techs like using quick melee to cancel sword lunge no longer work because of this retarded new system>also just sword in general had people begging embark to nerf the retarded m1 spam that they turned it into>so obviously the all knowing swede buffed the m1 even more while nerfing the rest of the playstyle of the weapon for like the 4th timeAll of this and it's still so easy to just not be in melee range and gun down the retard who brought a knife to a gunfight. Also the quick melee damage nerf just fucking over 10 million breakpoints on every weapon that isn't an assault rifle/smg. Their perfect princess weapons of course. It's insane it's like they tried to hit every aspect of the weapon class from low skill to high skill.
>>2702108lmao no, most new players hate playing against lights.
>>2702108I'd argue lights being so annoying are the reason new players quit the game actually.Most players judge a game by how it feels. And fighting heavies doesn't feel that bad. But fighting a light who just instantly beams you down the second they see you is genuinely an awful feeling.
>>2702147Light is the most picked class among newbs according to embark, retardDon't tell me you didn't notice that every 2nd season battlepass contains a M11 skin or two?
>>2702182>fighting heavies doesn't feel that badUntil they winch you that is, I just love getting stunned around the corners by the shitty winch projectile
So this season's a miss?
>>2702115World's gayest shitshow just dropped a hot stinky melee "rework" and castrated light specs, reddit celebrates as devs continue to gut whatever fun remains in the game
>>2702404Not for trash heavytroons, they piss their panties from excitement knowing light will never be viable in the meta ever again, it's gonna be MHH for every team from now on
>third season in a row where the ultimate battlepass is worthless pile of shit for 30 dollars>No new guns, gadgets or specializations>half the melee weapons are absolutely dogshit now>For some fucking reason the fucking riot shield got nerfed.Yea this season is a fucking dud.
>>2702494siiiiip, yep, melee shitter tears are deliciouscry more, reddit cuck, my cup needs to be full at all times
>>2702196it's also the hardest one to fight against for new players
this sucks ass but seeing you all cry about it? priceless
>>2702565yup yup yup, reddit shitters crying about their broken meta getting kneecapped is always a sight to behold, thank you based embark
What a sad general
>>2702587eat shit and die FAGGOTyou don't even have to play against real players anymore l m a o
>melee damage buffedguess I'm back to using glitch mines and the cerberus
>>2702602just use a gun and aim, the fuck are they gonna do? walk slowly towards you?game just should have never had melee, simple as
>schizophrenic nigger replying to his own shitposts trying to elicited more (you)s smaller boards really need thread ids so we can filter the mentally ill.
>>2702613i swear they used to, but then they removed thatbesides, most posts (especially the bait ones) are made by this >>2702587 anon soley
>The Winch Claw is intended to be a gap-closing displacement tool, but it has been a bit too effective as a kill-tool when it’s used at closer ranges to mini-stun opponents in placeI don't get thisthe fuck am I supposed to do when I winch someone? Give him a hug and tell him to run along now? Why shouldn't they be punished for overextending without their team? The stun goes both ways y'know
you can glitch the RPG in the medium's loadout nowlolhttps://thefinals-rpg.pages.dev/
>>2702492if this is what it takes for medium to be viable, so be it.
>game still suffering because lightweightthat class was SHIT since S1, it should have been removed long ago, i feel like embark doesnt give a shit anyway, they are more worried to keep Arc Raiders alive than this game, i would be surprised if this game makes it to season 15 or something
>launch game>pick medium and sometimes heavy>have fun>close gameit's that easy.
>>2702623Yea that anon skulks this thread 24/7 and starts arguments just for fun. There's too many invalids like this in every thread on every board.
>>2702943I don't think he even plays the game
This new map looks cool as fuck
The shitty melee dash just makes it less consistent to land hits. half of the time you don't even reach the enemy and if you do - they just kick you away. This on top of having an aim check to not deal pitiful damage is the nail in the coffin for melee.
>>2701967Because the Sword is intentionally designed to be the Light's splash weapon, and wanting to rely on the lunge is the sign that you really should just be playing Dagger
>>2703480but shouldn't you just be playing double barrel then?
>>2703497Not if you want a melee weapon, but yeah they do overlap
>>2702623>>2702943I dunno, because I've had that said about me and I didn't make those posts. But I think yeah there is at least a specific kind of anon that lurks these thread that, if they start talking about or basing their arguments on users elsewhere. then unless they're immediately and conclusively relevant to the topic at hand, they're clearly a shitposter.Really it ties into a greater point that if you're someone that avoids discussion and want to take shortcuts and clapbacks to "win" instead of enjoying talking for the sake of it, then you should leave the website or at least especially /vm/, but that's a long tangent to get into and this post is already getting off-topic
>here's your damage back for the Sledgehammer, and to make up for it, we're giving it a slight buff on the normal swing, an extra lunge, and a side of black queen in the battle pass>and we're making it so it's even more of a skill issue if people cry when you bonk them to deathThe Finals is healing
hm, game feels way smoother now. did they also work on a performance update?
>>2703480>wanting to rely on the lunge is the sign that you really should just be playing DaggerSword lunge and its accompanying quirks play nothing like dagger's.
fuck lights and fuck melee
Been fucking around with the bots mode. I thought multiple maps were in rotation? Cause I got Monaco 4 times out of 4
How's dagger with the new stamina mechanics and back stab reduced time? Did the dash nerf completely screw it over? Any dagger mains here?
>>2704942Sorry mate. You just missed em. Pretty sure every Light main of any type just killed themselves earlier today.
>>2704942The melee lunge has been standardized between all weapons making it extremely jank. You'll lunge as soon as you let the attack go which will cause you to fly past your target very often because the lunge is always the 5 meters despite distance to target. So if they are running at you when you lunge you'll fucking fly past them and miss very easily.It's also just heavily fucked up by lag and netcode causing you to rubber band a lot.
I do really like how the QM nerf has resulted in the KS-23 getting a smidge of its damage back. Really validates the belief that they were holding it back and giving it every buff it could use except the damage it actually needed because they were scared of the Winch OHK ComboWhich is fucking stupid anyways. What KS-23 user is gonna take Winch, even if that combo was in the game. Oh goodie gumdrops, every 20s, I might be able to get a quick kill against only the most fragile class in the game, while screwing me out of utility I desperately need the rest of the time to survive because this fucking gun basically only has 1 kill per mag, the slowest TTK for a Heavy gun, and a 4.50s reload from empty
Am I crazy or is this battle pass actually pretty shit? There's nothing from the paid track that I want from it other than the Terminator face and maybe the p90 skin.
>bot mode fully counts for quests and WT pointsLmao wtf? Why would I touch cash out ever now? It's free wins and free effortless points and XP
>>2705253bcuz you're gay
>>2705166That doesn't mean it's shit. That just means you don't want it. You'd be hard pressed to point out anything objectively wrong with this pass. Only thing I'd say is that it's a bit weaker on the Ultimate side, playing it a bit safer than S9+10 and being more like S7+8. Feels like that alien vat would be an entirely different thing on the Ultimate track if it was like those seasons.
>>2705253bot mode doesn't count fullyand why would you play the game for ranks at this pointranks haven't meant anything since s4and have meant even less since s8you play for fun
>>2705253insufferable emeralds have been very quiet all of a sudden
>>2705343probably a lot more fun playing with bots that you know for sure aren't smurf accounts or retarded teammates. Atleast in a bot lobby everyone is retarded equally
>>2704209>t.
>>2705253>Lmao wtf? Why would I touch cash out ever now?New maps, occasional teamwork plays that are impossible to pull off with bots, showing off your skill and skins, trolling teammates until they ragequit, respec order and fun modifiers, preserving your gamer dignity
>>2705633it's funny how there's so much overlap between annoying heavy players and reddit grappler players in fighting games>oblivious but puts on a "wholesome chungus" facade>not too good at the game>perpetually incensed by their hard counters even if >will deny being overtuned to the absolute bitter end because half of their identity relies on being a struggle class (only works in the finals' case because these guys play gimmicky weapons and have bad teamplay)
was this melee rework a buff or a nerf? i dont really get it.
>>2705893like looking into a mirror isn't it, anon?
>>2706008https://youtu.be/s6dZ40S-JPc?t=4m21s
>>2706028so unless you were a complete retard before, it is a buff. i dont play melee, so its annoying for me, but whatever i guess. the kick is kinda weird tho, being able to camp highground and kick people off might be too strong.
Dagger is ruined. Lunge doesn't work properly with backstab, its too short for the backstab to register. And doesn't trigger when you are sliding, falling, etc which is what a Dagger player is doing most of the time. Glancing blows are a big nerf to an already shit weapon as well. https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/comments/1uryct7/dagger_melee_rework_is_a_joke/?share_id=8hdkPPRUG0w7QKm3ZMRRa&utm_content=1&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/comments/1us4g6p/detailed_feedback_from_a_dagger_main_after_6/These reddit posts by gelz and biopsy are great recaps. I fucking hate that sub reddit, majority of subhumans in it only play medium and heavy and hate melee and light players. They are in glee over this lol. Ngl I gotta thank embark cause now I can touch grass. Ruined the one weapon that kept me around. Now I am free. If anyone can create a game that has TF2 Spy cloak and dagger mechanics they will get my money. Embark dagger had that to an extent with the dagger and movement tech back in the day.
>>2706058Its a nerf in every regard. The forced lunge is fucking up all melee weapons. Riot's offensiveness took a huge hit because it forces you out of the blocking state when running diagonal at a target. Then there's the damage nerf which increased the number of times a medium or heavy have to be hit. Hilariously they were trying to kill quick melee combos, but its pretty much essential now to have a chance against a heavy. I don't play the spear, but I've talked with people who were regulars on it and its caused them to straight up abandon the weapon.
>>2706067As long as you fuck off. I don't care what else you have to say, just that if you're directly linking to reddit and acting like a fag that you remove yourself from the equation
>>2706451Lol stupid nigger, they are gonna ruin your favorite weapons and specs too because it's obvious they have no idea how to balance their game except based on pick rates. Everything is going to be nerfed into a boring mediocrity with zero skill expression. Melee is ruined first, the rest of you faggots are gonna follow. And I fucking hate reddit too but unfortunately it's the only place any kind of discussion is taking place despite toxic faggots like you overpopulating it.
>>2706067i love melee suffering and dagger suffering in particulari wish you all a big fuck you and you deserved it :D
>>2706484>Melee is ruined firstMy favorite Melee weapons got strict buffs in this patch>faggots like you overpopulating itI don't go to reddit. You do. Hence I'm glad you're leaving.
They got rid of naming teams Attackers/Defenders in Point Break. Which makes backfilling confusing as fuck when you just spawn in in the middle of a game and have no idea what the objective is
>Play one bot game>Completes all dailies>Counts towards contract progression>Gives SIX show tokens>Sixteen world tour points>Even pumps your KDR and stats because they're free bots to farmThis is absolutely getting nerfed isn't it
Absolutely loving all the meleeshitter tears in this thread lmao
>>2707741It's getting expanded actually. They've said so in the patch notes. But yeah if you just want to grind the BP and missions effortlessly or get hard to get achievements then it's the mode for it.
bot mode is dumb, what would be really useful is practice mode in any map you want.
So much for "perfomance improvements" the game is running even worse now.
>>2706067deserved considering daggerfags spent the last 2 years facestabbing.
The discourse surrounding the melee update reeks of false flags and lies. Much of the statements aren't even consistent, usually following up stuff like>glancing blows is too much :(>it makes bad weapons worsewith>the update just makes it all mindless M1 spam nowlike oh, way to just out yourself as a liar that hates the precise hit damage buffs and are on the receiving end, not a wielder
>>2708447>The discourse surrounding the melee update reeks of false flags and liesIt's insane. Everyone who thinks the rework is terrible writes an essay why with video evidence and numbers to back it up. Everyone who likes it just says they're happy melee players are suffering and hope their mothers get raped. The only real takeaway is that both sides agree it was nothing but massive nerfs. Which when you consider melee was already niche at best and throwing at worst makes it hilarious embark thought any of these changes were good. It's just like their insanely bad recoil rework they spent months on. I only hope this shit gets reverted just as fast.
>>2708795>Everyone who thinks the rework is terrible writes an essay why with video evidence and numbers to back it uplol, lmaoMore like everyone who thinks the rework is terrible is split into three camps1) People who just completely bullshit and lie as mentioned in that aforementioned post2) People that post "video evidence" that's just them fucking up adjusting to the new patch and taking advantage of the new systems. Turns out if you keep using the exact old way that got nerfed instead of the new way that it got buffed, you have a bad time3) Spear users and Dagger usersAnd the people who think the rework is great is split into two camps1) Every melee user with more than half a brain and doesn't use the Spear and Dagger2) People that just hate lights and are dumping on them in general with this patch
>>2708811(you)The lunge change alone fucks with every melee weapon in the game.
>>2708820The lunge change fucks with Euros in the shittiest region with the shittiest servers that still at least has some (OCE thus is disqualified), and thus get a poor lunge experience. Hammer and Sword users in NA and Asia are absolutely feasting right now. Dual Blades would at least get a nice lunch if they learned to stop trying to deflect in the open like retards anymore.
>>2708825>lunge happens as soon as you initiate an attack>no matter the distance >can cause you to fly past people if they're not standing still>gets heavily affected by net code>because the lunge timing is universal tons of attacks get fucked over by it like hammer m2, dagger m2, dualswords new m2 attack>in worst case scenarios like dagger's you can lunge at someone and still have them be out of reach using up your stamina and wasting your attackYou don't even have to test this stuff to figure it out. You could look at the numbers for the lunge distance and attack range on certain attacks and realize it's fucked up. Looking at numbers you could see their retarded design when they do stuff like straight nerfing the damage on spear (and everything else about it holy fuck), riot shield, and dagger.
>>2708861>can cause you to fly past people if they're not standing stillTwo wordsYou already know what they areYou should've internalized them by now given how often they must be said to you
>>2708881>The discourse surrounding the melee update reeks of false flags and lies.
>>2708889That's not false flags and liesThat's just me calling you a bitch, which is hard objective facts. We have the science to prove it.
>>2707741>inflates KDRlmao that's insane what the fuck
It's simple really, I don't play melee, never played melee and this rework won't get me to play melee.The pike still doesn't have a definite role and that's because they're too pussy to make it the medium's high risk high reward headshot centric weapon by giving it a 2x on headshots. It exists between the space of the repeater and the crossbow and excells at nothing.
>>2708811>Turns out if you keep using the exact old waythe game in general has had a bullheaded problem since launch>s1 fcar pwning me outside? better contest it there, oh no i'm pwned wahhhhhhhhhhh>third partying is strong? nah i won't back off so i can be the ambusher. oh no i'm being third partied wahhhhhhhh
thats a new onewhy is the finals the most unstable game out thereif its not this its a UE crash, or getting kicked for a "system integrity violation", I'm sick of it
>>2708995the revolver is more the high risk headshot weapon
It's kinda funny how between all the dagger seething, the dual blade civil war on whether it's worse or better now, the dominance of sledge, and the funeral for spear, the actual discussion of the new map has been almost completely discardedwhich is a shame because everything they're doing with its design and the speed track shows a lot of smart lessons learned from the slant eye maps
>Dev Note: The APS has been out of the meta for some time... so we’ve added these buffs to improve its impact.>The cooldown adjustments are to slightly offset that power.Why is this fat fuck so retarded? Honestly this might be the worst fucking season so far in terms of balancing. Really doesn't come as a surprise since this guy worked on Dirty Bomb also
>>2708995Not every gun needs to be wholly distinct man, even Counterstrike, the stale bread and hardtack of video games, knew to have the UMP and the AUG and the Revolver even though they're basically just alternatives to existing solid meta weapons.
The changes to melee are so gratifying when I play sword. It feels like I can actually fight how I want, without having to sneak and hide behind cover constantly like some generic dagger cloak fag. I can dominate a room or aggress on players without an overt risk of instantly getting melted. I'm feeling actually rewarded for closing the range and keeping my reticle aimed well for once (instead of just hoping the blade collides). Melee doesn't feel like a throw option or extremely high learning curve based on tech abuse anymore.>>2708995I used the pike before it was ever popular in the ranked meta, and before they nerfed it. I even bought the mythic skin because I liked the gun so much. The problem is that it has awkward range versatility (poor hipfire accuracy plus middling DPS on body shots), and requires patient shot timing intervals for clean ADS accuracy at range, or you just waste shots. It arguably demands more active effort to fight with it than the Light's sniper rifle or bow, and is less forgiving and versatile than the Medium's repeater or crossbow. So, not only does it not really have a good place in the meta, it's basically a compromise weapon on almost every front. Frankly, I think most of the people who bitched about it are the light/medium mains who cannot comprehend taking or making cover against long distance marksmen. Yet, if they want to keep it, it needs small reworking.
>>2680442Eh whatever, i finally got round to playing and the new map is cool. Nothing crazy ofc but style wise its cool idea.The part in the middle reminds me a bit of picrel lol50s (or whatever decade it is) sci fi aesthetics are underrated. One of my favourite books is pretty much that
>>2712981even as an eco buy, the UMP sucks balls and with the pick 5 system, you're hard pressed to even have it in your loadoutsAUG used to have a place, especially when they reduced the price, for a while every pro was using itRevolver is used by literally nobodyyour point would have made more sense if you talked about the M249 or M4 versus M4A1-Sthe finals has a similar competition for weapon slots
>>2711581camped by shit sights, a massive vertical kick and low ammo count. Doesn't even excel that much in hipfire agaisnt the repeater or the crossbow.
I last checked this out really hoping to get into it in season 7.I kind of really wanted the Lux Terminata skin but I was broke and couldn't run the game very well anyway.I know that by now, Season 7's pass is surely available to buy again, right? But you can't buy the version of it that gives you Lux Terminata, huh? That's the FOMO element?....I think at the time I said "fuck it, the white non-ultimate version of her would be cool too, I'll hope for performance increases and maybe I will play it and get free multicoins to get the pass for free!"So,1. Can I ever get Lux Terminata again? No, right? Only the most standard version of the S7 pass?2. Has performance increased at all for old ass hardware? Like scalability? My 4 year old GPU is super fucking bottlenecked by my 8 year old CPU and ram. I'm sorry for being fucking broke guys, but I need to know.
>>2713201>1Idk>2Runs pretty bad on my 2070 and Ryz7 2700X. Shaky 60-70 with all on low, and it's map dependent. Do what you will with this infomation.
>>2713201you need an X3D cpu. i played on a ryzen 3600 when the game launched and performance was similar to >>2713232. after upgrading to a 5700X3D i get around 140 fps depending on map.
>>2713302I've never used Ryzen in my life and to upgrade my CPU requires an entire system rebuild save for my GPU.So hey thanks for the advice but unless you're mailing me 800 dollars no one fucking asked.
>>2713315no need to be so rude about it man
>>2713302ironically, game run much better for me at launch with that 2700X. Update after update, i'd loose like 10-20fps
How are we dressing up this season lads?
>>2713466
>>2713119>campIt's more for close range battles, the lack of the range of the repeater or the ammo and fire rate of the bow is what gives it more risk to it's reward of potential damage.
>>2713466I love this new emote
>>2714143>8 seasons since this outfit came out>still not enough Sentai Helmets to do a trio, let alone the full five>even after they've remade the face outfit from the pass insteadwhat the fuuuuuuuuck
Point Break chadsWhat do we think of Point Break on Vegas?I kind a like it, it's very close quarters. There's two points directly next to each other which is kind of crazy in the 2nd round. 3rd round is kind of annoying for defenders though since one of the points is high up and the other is at ground level and there's no easy way to move between them if you're not a grappling light or a medium with zipline/jump pad
>>2714250I didn't mean camp in the camping sense, I ment it as a "held back"
>>2716417ah I see
>>2713119>Medium needs a high-risk high-reward headshot gun>that's the revolver>uh but it's [high-risk high-reward]what exactly do you want then
>>2716450doesn't mean it's good when it's supplanted by every other medium range weapon that has much less drawbacks
So, did you hit Emerald 1 already? It's literally free this season, got 200 points in just 2 hours, you simply have no excuse
>>2716593don't even have to fight against real people now
>>2716599my friend and I have been having fun with the bot matches by exclusively doing double jeopardy cashouts and having to fight all 3 other teams at once
>start getting clips n' shit in my Shorts>check the comments>there's always someone of a different region going "heh, this wouldn't work on OUR servers"I swear to god. If it's US then it's EU. If it's EU then it's AS. If It's AS then it's SA. If It's SA then it's US. It just keeps going in a fucking circle.
>>2716825I remember watching a short that said that the zipline was objectivley better than jump padI think about that video sometimes
>>2716701They're genuinely so fucking bad and stupid. For some reason they only shoot in small bursts, they get easily distracted by deployables like proxmity sensor and will shoot at those instead of you. Their aim is dog shit and slow too.Genuinely super exploitable since the game just treats those matches as real matches. I've been using it to get achievements
>>2716701played a bot match for the first time ever>don't use gadgets except the occasional gas mine or granade>they use some specs like mesh shields and dash but don't expect them to heal you >their idea of "defense" is to huddle up on the cashout as close as possible and wait for the enemy to predictably arrive in a neat conga line like it's Operation Metro >really really bad aim, sometimes they forget they can move and shoot at the same time. Even if I'm standing completly still, they manage to miss shots>if an allied bot has the box, there's no way to tell him to drop it for me>allied bots do not listen to comands. They either follow you or circle around the cashout, can't command them to hold a rooftop or something>sometimes, they just... stop and stare. Not moving, looking around or shooting. They just freeze>even when there is nobody on site, they will not steal. Had this happen twice, they either break or just keep quick meleeing the cashout>bot matches count for contracts of any kind>bot matches count for WT points>bot matches count for weapon XP, KDR and stats (alegedly, haven't tested more than a quick glance)there will be players who will train on this mode only and they can be YOUR teammate. Think about that.
>>2717788Oh also the bots have walls and shoot at the nearby enemy bots through the floor with their peashooters.
>>2717788just checked and yepbot matches count for KDR and WL ratioforgot to check weapon levels but I assume it's the same dealright is before, left is after match
>>2717788>bot matches count for WT pointsYou forgot the best partif you leave a bot match with real players still playing it you still get fans and wt points for their victory, you can leave at the beginning and it will still count for your WT rank
>>2707563DUDE NO FUCKING JOKE I JUST LOST BECAUSE OF THISWe spawned in on las vegas, idk what the fuck the spawns are for attackers/defenders on this map since it's new to the mode. I thought we were defending, i played the entire game as though i was on defense. i had the point to myself so many times, killed so many enemies on the point because i thought they were attacking it. And then just never captured it myself. Turns out we were attackers and we fucking LOST and i was actively contributing to the loss because i kept instantly reviving whenever i died.holy fuck im so stupid
look ah deez goofy ahh space niggaz
>>2716825completely normal to point this out when its a braindead lemming NA lobby or sweaty shitter EU one
I hate burst fire guns in most FPS games but the FAMAS is just so tight, its the only AR i usehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVrKGl3Xli8
>>2707563>>2721548An experienced Contestant understands that the objectives change color depending on your role!
>>2724606wife material
>>2725004I played last night and dont know what that is
>>2726157It's The Finals
