Final stretch for Dragon's ClaimNew Event pass on the horizonGoo is now in shamblesFear dominates the upcoming S11 melee rework (it's getting updated to brawl)Join Vidya to find other anons
>>2498602TICK TOCK, MELEE FAGGOTS. YOUR TIME IS COMING TO AN END SOON. NO MORE WILLING YOURSELF OUT OF THE INTAGIBLE ETHER AND MATERIALIZING SOUNDLESSLY ON TOP OF MY HEAD, BLINDLY SPAMMING LEFT CLICK. FUCK OFF, THE PLAYERBASE IS FULL ENOUGH WITHOUT YOU.YOU'RE DONE. YOU HEAR ME?DONE.D...O...N...E
>>2498773People will become this deranged instead of just turning off their goon music to actually hear people in-game
>>2499056>implying the enemy footstep audio isn't inconsistent dogshit Meleeshitter cope
i play with speakers not headphones though :(
>>2499056I can't play without my funky tunes
What are you guys thoughts on the pike?I like using it a lot personally it's great against mediums and heavies I just hope it could 3 bodyshot lights.
>>2499682I like it quite a bit, that skin in particular is one I like a lot because of it's 'pew pew' sounds
>>2499056You ever notice how you can be directly behind shitloads of players, and they all mysteriously never hear you?That's a key sign there's audio issues with The Finals, and always has been. People aren't just blaring KORN out of their loudspeakers and vaping every single time they boot up the game.Kys
>>2499682All in all, the pike isn't too bad right now. Unless you're a headshot wizard, there's really no reason to use the repeater over the crossbow or pike desu.I almost want to say that the pike is being slept on (again)
>>2500609>People aren't just blaring KORN out of their loudspeakersthat's why they don't win
>>2500609>people aren't just blaring KORNThis.A lot of people are actually just shit at the game and can't hear because their spacial awareness is complete dogshit, no distractions needed.Like you!
>>2501343Cope harder numbnuts, audio is borked and you dick-riding Embark will not change thatIf even r*dditors know shit's fucked, you have no excuse
>>2501392>he agrees with shitters from r*dditThanks for confirming how bad you are at the game
>>2501402>> Implying only heckin' based 4channers know about and play The FinalsI'd hate to be the first person to tell you this, retard, but The Finals has a larger community on r*ddit, discord, and steam than on this hellscape of a website. If even normies are complaining about the same audio issues consistently, you're just being an edgy contrarian nobody likes
>>2501419>nooooo you have to agree with the normies and r*dditors, i.e. the people that make up the majority of shitters>they, the shitters, consistently share the opinion of shitters>so agree with them now or you won't be likeable!!!!!Oh noooo.....Oh well, too bad so sad. Will continue to actually base things off reality instead of ur feefees :)
>>2501588> Ignores blatant evidence in favor of delusionally defending a game with bad audioI too, pull shit out of my ass despite evidence to the contrary and refer to that as """reality""'
Is it me or has hitreg and desync been actively getting worse each season?
>>2504155Well, considering how the completely fucked server tick rates have never been fixed or upgraded since season 1, you're probably right
>>2504155I think it depends on what you use. Normal bullets are mostly fine, but any hybrid guns like the KS-23 and Chimera have been really weird lately
aaaaaa why the fuck did the mp5 have to be the low ammo gun for lightits so much fucking cooler than the m11 and i just wanna run and gun with it
Where's the update niggly
Too much Alfa Acta and Tits in the pass, but risk reward coming back is cool. I just expected more of a rules roulette based on the preview in the schedule
This new battlepass is so ass, LH1 is garbo, flamefarter looks horrible, fcar looks decent but it can't carry this shit pass alone, I'm not a troon who plays this game for dress up, I want cool cosmetics that fit the theme of the season instead of this overpriced sponsor trash
>>2500609bad footsteps audio has been my most hated bug since release, second maybe to no reg on winch10 seasons and I still can't hear a dickhead breathing behind me and this issue is shared among my friends too
>>2518349Genuine question, are a bulk of people using that night mode option for audio? I could be retarded but I remember it making foot steps easier to hear, but it made it harder to track where the sounds were coming from. I remember a bunch of shitty youtubers were pushing people to use it a long while back, but I'm guessing people have since switched off after realizing the downsides. Early in the finals life I remember complaining about audio not seeming right and everyone thought I was crazy. I don't wanna be one of those it works on my machine guys, but I can very much track people easier via sound in the current season compared to earlier ones. I run riot myself and had my own fill of audio related issues. For a shitzillion seasons I had to deal with it making a weird clanking sound even while idle. They only fixed that relatively recently by comparison. I can only assume next season they're gonna ramp that up and make it super audible so melee in general can't get the drop on anyone anymore.
Reddit is bitching about the female skin in the safehouse pass because they're all gay as fuck and like men
>>2518542she's hot
>>2518651I didn't buy the last one of these but I bought this one just for the tits.Embark knows what sells
>>2498602Do you think it's too optimistic to believe that this game is going to have actual matchmaking before season 20?I really don't feel like coming back next season if I'm still going to be level 110 and getting literal noobs on my team below level 30
>>2519617I really want more casual continuous match mode and the server browser to glue things together
>>2519617Embark is decent at responding to massive backlash. If which this is currently the main thing people are complaining about.So I can see them changing some stuff around
>>2519617This is the only game I've ever played that makes me wish I was legitimately a noob again. If you're high-level and play solo, like fucking 6/10 of your random teammates WILL be noobs throwing and completely clueless as to why you are mad at them. Hell, some of them have even have tried to shit-talk me and they literally don't even have a fourth of my wins, kills, or revives. This has been happening for 10 seasons straight. Don't expect that to change anytime soon, if ever.
>>2518542Instead of making light/med feminine builds with bigger busts (and even a fem heavy build that isn't roided out looking disgusting), they did this retarded shit by making unisex tops into female ones by adding tits to them. It's beyond retarded. If they're gonna add tits, and they should, they should do it the right way.
>>2520760This is probably easier then having to retroactively adjust every clothing item in the game
>>2521211Yeah a ~$300 million gaming studio shouldn't be taking "easy" shortcuts like these.
>>2520605I had 100 times more fun in the second closed beta and open beta when everyone was just fucking about and didn't know any strats and every gun was busted
>>2520605i'll never forget that medium on point break that would just defib people in the middle of a firefight and then act standoffish and mad when everyone in the team told him to stop doing that or atleast bring the bodies somewhere safe.He was wearing the arc raiders promo skin and was level like 20.
>>2522748Understandable on his part then. He was contributing as much as a guy his level could, and in-game chat is always terrible for teaching players in a high pace game. People doing so in the moment always gives way to insult and nagging Weird thing to "never forget." Like it's just a small thing on Point Break. Annoying, yeah, but it's also the silly big team side mode.
>>2522802Not really understandable when we tell him kindly not to, he tells us to fuck off and explain why what he's doing is bad, we once again explain it to him and he goes "yeah idc shut up". Bare in mind, none of us insulted him, we just told him that by doing that he's not helping. If he was truly a noob, he'd have just excused himself and tried to learn from it, instead he opted to be toxic about it. I get everyone was a noob at one point, but there's being a noob and staying a noob.
>>2520605Don't worry, the new Finals Academy, Onboarding and Bot matches will definitely fix the issue and bring in a bajillion trillion players back
Servers? Still badWeapons? Still unbalancedOp specs? Still unnerfed Maps? Still assCashout? Still not reworked Bugs? Still presentCheaters? Still protectedThe Major? Won't watch itThe game? Won't play itCya in season 15, maybe they'll have stable servers with decent tick rate!
>>2523394How do I downvote this twitter post
>>2523913You gotta ask Embark_Rob for a buttplug and you can use the lovense sharing feature
How do i get the moth off my monitor hes been here for 4 days now
>>2498602Where do you homosexuals stand on the nerf dash vs nerf winch debate? I for one, believe Heavy's crutching of the winch is necessary because the class has 0 mobility or quick movement. It is very easy to be boxed in and hunted down by rabid M11 Lights when you're a sluggish fat fuck with no escape abilities, ergo winch makes sense. Just tighten up it's wonky, egregious hitbox. Conversely, Light's entire kit is so painfully good (Except for grapple, grapple is mega dogshit jank) that giving the class 2 dashes instead of 3 will hardly make a dent in it's identity or overall efficiency.If Light loses 1 dash? Who cares? I will still play Light.If Heavy loses winch? Hell no. For the sake of my sanity, I will never play that morbidly obese punching bag ever again. Fuck you, Embark.
>>2524438People who complain about winch get range checked and never play with their team. The cool down is pretty unforgiving but just being locked into the animation is bad enough. Plus winch is the only tool that can reliably and accurately relocate vaults, it even has some depth in it's uses (hook on return, upwards hook, 13+2 range, and so on). Doesn't help that the other spec choices are situational at best and mediocre at worst. I think players frustration comes with the fact that heavies usually have an escort, since they ironically have limited survivability if they push solo, which is why they feel getting winched in a 3/2v1 is unfair. But it really isn't.I feel like if they don't want to remove a dash charge, the leas they could do is put a cool down between use so you can't spam Left right left right. Maybe like a 0.5 or 1s cool down between uses.Funny to consider that this is the exact measure they took to mitigate mesh shield spam when you think about it.
>>2524438I doubt they'd outright remove winch, it's not something crazy like recon senses.
>>2524438The debate is poisoned, since I've seen many people call winches a panic button. Too many people look at Heavy and think it's unskilled ez modo and that every time they Charge or Shield or Winch that they're actually on their last legs and are throwing it out without thinkingMost likely a symptom of how many players think they "deserve" a win in this game, and will immediately think everything else is unfair or unearned if they lose to it, which makes it all the harder to discuss what's actually disproportionate or not.
>>2524438I think both are fine and ppl who complain about shit are just bad at this game desu
>>2524438Kill yourself winch fag
>>2498773>terrible weapons that just make bad players seetheOh no! I can only imagine how bad they'll make them!
I will never be able to understand why this game never took off.Gamers are a different kind of retarded.
>>2528833Too different from other shooters and normies are buckbroken by AI voice acting, despite modern voice acting being dogshit.
>>2528833You know why the game never took off: it has no recognizable characters, the announcers don't really have any personality, there is virtually no matchmaking, and despite allegedly being "The world's greatest gameshow" the game itself doesn't feel much like a gameshow at all. If The Finals was a balanced hero shooter actually in the vein of a gameshow, I guarantee it would've been 2x or 3x more popular.
>>2528833It's too different between the cashout mechanics and the destruction. You've also only got a 25-33% chance of winning and you can lose to entirely wacky shit, so it really pisses off the modern audience that generally expects fair and deserved wins when they play "right"
>>2528833from the reactions some of my friends and others there was a misconception that it'd just be a battle royale game.
>>2530068A lot of people heard "squads" and "eliminations" and "extract the cash" and completely checked out before hearing anything else
>>2530104it's a shame that happened
>>2530272*basedsorry, typo
>>2528833>no marketable personality, announcers are AI voiceover and the aesthetic of the game is "real life+some gameshow shit pasted over it+whatever costumes you decide to wear with no real consistent artstyle therein>original gamemode that is unironically too thinky for the average shooter player>original gamemode that is too volatile for the average comp shooter player to play it and stay sane we are roughly in the titanfall zone of "shooter autists love it, everyone else bounces off"
>>2530317what word did you mistype
>>2528833>Shadow dropped at an event nobody cared about>Still got record breaking numbers despite that>Game had incredibly poor onboarding, the tutorial was really really bare ones and explained next to none of the mechanics properly (it didn't even teach you that you could grab revive statues)>When looking from the outside, understanding what this game is even about is a challenge, the trailers were all flashy colours and shootouts and many assumed it was some sort of battle royale or extraction shooter>Visually distinct but generic at the same time, which is inline with making it a "gameshow" but overall hurt the presentation more than anything>The default player models and sets were really ugly>No text chat until Season 3, only VC and it's on par with Xbox Live mic quality (even now)>So social interactions and partying up weren't common (not entirely the Finals' fault though, it's just how gamers are)>SEVERE lack of game modes at launch and the LTMs were all "Solo Bank it but with Gimmick Load out">Lack of maps but also the maps at launch themselves we're not great (Vegas Tripwires and Turrets for example)>Server issues and general bugs (like the old friends list bug, the can't run bug or can't shoot bug)>Exploits and ReWASD were discovered almost immediately, some even carried over from the beta (like being able to shoot through mesh shields)>But because embark is a swedish studio, they released the game a couple of weeks before their mandatory 3 month vacation, so cheaters festered and hurt the reputation of the game hard>Very poor weapon balancing, Light was the throw pick, the FCAR and SA12 stomped over everything else in their respective class and Recon Sense was legit wall hacks with no way of the enemy knowing (except a very faint audio queue that was easy to spot. They would later add a SPOTTED warning, but it was basically more of a warning that you were about to get jumped by a team)>NukesIt could have never been mainstream
>>2530723>except a very faint audio queue that was easy to spotFuck I meant it was hard* to spotPicture the sonar nade audio but 70% quieter and with no visual queue + only audible when the user activated RS
>>2530723Ironically, performance itself WASN'T an issue. This game ran perfectly fine at launch, even on somewhat older hardware. That one became more of an issue as time went on. It's a very CPU intensive game.
Years later, and complaints about the S1 FCAR is STILL outin niggas
>>2530772Fag
I started using the MG32. I don't even think it's that bad desu. You just need to bank shots and play close to your teammates in case you get rushed down.
>>2531385*MGL
>>2528833I picked it up today. It's pretty fun, very smooth, nice visuals. Confusing in nearly every way. Beginner variety is kinda shit? I haven't played with everything, but with as spastic as people are with their jumping around and sliding, it makes inaccurate weapons or non-automatic a pain in the ass. I stick with the M11 and it does its job. None of the others I have tried are all that fun.There is a lot of stuff going on at once, too. I generally don't play PvP games anymore, I only tried this because it was free. But there's shit all over at all times. Different gadgets, grenades, like i saw a guy run at me and eat an entire mag, didn't shoot me at all, then open a hole in the ground, the cache fell in, then I died as soon as I looked down from the same guy who opened the hole that was no longer there. Scanner Grenades would help me immensely, but the "glitch" effect that follows them makes it more of a hinderance really. I don't know. It's fun, I will play it a bit tomorrow and see if it clicks once i unlock more stuff, cause my selection now is lacking.
>>2531385The MGL32 is incredibly solid. The damage is still usable single target, and it's a mean mother when it comes to splash damage, but holy shit, the advantage from bank shots is unparalleled. Being able to get damage in without direct LOS is absolutely godly, especially since when you pair it with stable accuracy, your 500lb ass can constantly dance around cover in close quarters while banking off the walls to still get YOUR damage inThe only thing really holding it back is that it doesn't explode on contact with contestants. It's a mild nuisance when above or equal with them, since you can usually bank it and get what you want, but forget attacking anyone above you at allIf they added like, direct hits, I think that's fair, and if they did a minor damage nerf if the grenade explodes without banking or its timer running out, then it'd be inexcusable not to add immediately. Especially since the aps and shields can easily be ran to counter it if it got too good
>>2528833the art style looked like generic androgynous dogshit from the get go, which given Arc Raiders is apparently Embark's signature art style from here on out.What does Mr Finals look like, someone you can put on a shirt and recognize the IP? Fornite has Jonesy and Minecraft has Steve. I don't think most players would recognize that weird egg thing outside of the game.Also the game is pretty experimental as in no player base for the launch gamemodes existed prior, let alone something with as much destruction and movement.
>>2533561This game has a STEEP learning curve. It looks simple at first but you will have games where you go 1 and 20 when you're just starting. You honestly just have to get your ass kicked for hours before you start picking up on the nuances of the game. Just remember that positioning is god is this game. It matters more where you are and when you're there than being some aimgod.
>>2533824unpopular take but as a shooter I don't think the game has much of a learning curve at all. like every other shooter its finding out what weapons and abilities do what, its honestly very simple at its core
>>2536881You must have never played with people who are new to the game. The main complaint they all have is how hard it is to learn. It has simple mechanics and weapons but it's everything else that makes it hard.
>>2536881Hard disagree. Playing this game well requires constantly ticking a lot of small bits of game knowledge regarding things like timers and ammo and thresholds, and big things like completely reevaluating the standard concepts of rotations, positions, and cover due to destruction It's not incredibly deep mechanically, but instead it's a constant barrage of choices and adaptation. You need to be constantly on top of things or else you will lose control, and not to mention how you will just lose control anyways and then need to know how to ride that wave.Knowing what you should be doing in any situation has a ton of layers and it takes a long while to learn how they all intersect, and even longer to learn when it's the right moment to throw them all away and just go ham with the big dumb play no one would expect It's everything that people find to be complex and engaging about other tactical or objectives-focused shooter but yet also one where tactics can go out the window because someone flipping the objective onto its side and now it's a free for all cash rush in the final minute
How do I git gud
>>2538745try clicking on the enemy players with red health bars
>>2538757They keep moving away from my reticle
>>2537267NTA but I think if you came from any FPS background with even a slight amount of movement I don't think its too hard to adapt and figure it out. I got my shit pushed in when I started season 1 because I was playing against people who were in the beta or just clocked in more hours in FPSs than me, but got somewhat better by merely observing what weird untraditional strats people were using. Stalling cash boxes with jump pads after blowing out the ceiling, sliding into giant boost pads to gain extra distance, using goo to build outside of building to hide from an enemy. Its all really just a collection of really goofy shit you have to experiment with. The only people I've seen/heard struggle are people that come from other popular FPSs and try to play the finals like one of those. It just doesn't fully translate like that. I fuck people over with demat all the time because they think they're safe hunkering down in a corner with their gun up. People who have learned from that shit counter it by raising the cash box and supporting it with goo. I try not to be shitty and say its a skill issue, but l can appreciate the few that learn from their mistakes and come up with creative counters instead of getting mad.I don't see this as a super complex game, its just a game filled with chaotic moments and the team that can adjust quickest will come out on top.
>>2536881>>2538870Post playercards.NOW.
>>2540736There's no point if you're trying to compare win/loss ratios. I can count on one hand the number of games I intentionally left in my 1700+ hours of gameplay and those were only done because either I or my teammate picked the wrong game mode. I'll play a match to completion win or lose. Anyone sitting in the positives in a game where you're competing in most cases 2-3 other teams is a shitter who abandons games constantly or cheating. Not saying its impossible, but the odds are highly against you considering the dynamic nature of the game.
>>2540781> I figured this game out, it's not super complex or particularly difficult, bro > Yet I will not post my playercard, ever That's what I figured. Don't talk all that good shit next time if you don't want your bluff called, noob.
>>2540736It is genuinely difficult trying to keep this 2:1 revive to kill ratio since I started playing
>>2540907and for the record i was anon#1 who posted the unpopular take
>>2540868You don't have to ragebait to keep the thread alive retard-kun
>>2541208> Braindead zoomie that uses the term "ragebait" falls for the most obvious ragebaitMany such cases. Works on your kind all the time desu. Filtered bigly