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We have a /vm/ guild that has been playing together for nearly 4 years now, if you would like to join simply post your IGN to thread.

>>2408952 Previous Thread

Anet has released a brand new dungeon in POST searing this time, based off the one they released in pre searing. Go unlock the new free mesmer hero. Read about the new balance change here:
https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Feedback:Game_updates/20260428

GW1 coming to mobile phone soon, will the game be overrun with zoomers? Will you have a team wipe because your monk is playing GW mobile while driving? Discuss the implications.
https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Guild_Wars_on_Mobile

In other news I finally had enough people contribute unique builds to release Baww builds, since we couldn't come to a consensus for what standards to apply when adding new builds I will instead just keep an eye on what people run during our events and when people run interesting off meta builds that work decently enough I'll add them. I will add this link to future OPs as our Baww approved builds. Perhaps in future I'll offer a minor reward to people who's builds manage to make it on there, haven't decided yet.
https://gwpvx.fandom.com/wiki/User:Baww_Way

NF prog sometime late next month, more details next thread.

Useful links
https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Main_Page
http://gwsolo.wikidot.com/
https://www.gw-memorial.net/
https://tolkano.com/
https://gwpvx.fandom.com/wiki/PvX_wiki
https://wiki.fbgmguild.com/wiki/Main_Page
https://party.gwtoolbox.com/
https://kamadan.gwtoolbox.com/
https://ascalon.gwtoolbox.com/
https://hom.guildwars2.com/en/#page=welcome

>Having trouble figuring out what is worth keeping?
https://youtu.be/CnBjJnxC-s0

>New player and not sure what profession to run?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSQQe_3P1P0
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>>2505540
was r/w sword guy using of the +5 str
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>>2505595
Not sure, unfortunately I only grabbed the build and not the exact specifics of gear. I'll ask him next time, but +5 str is probably optional, main benefits from running prot strike is it allows you cancel the end lag from your attacks due to it having an activation time. So when you finish your attack you activate it which causes you to instant attack again allowing you to do 2 melee hits very quickly. If you've ever played dagger spammer, all the dagger spammer attacks have a similar activation time effect.

The bonus damage from hitting a moving target is not really why you run it.
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>>2505595
I was not, however it is something you should run if you wanna max out the dps.
>>2505634
You wouldn't run it just because of prot strike, it gives 5% armor pen on every attack skill, which is very good on a very spammy build
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I only play this game to play monk with other human players. Playing healer/support feels like boring dogshit in other games, but GW manages to make it fun.
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Fun class.
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>>2506710
Not enough skills and doesn't benefit for secondary classes: too repetitive
Also impossible to make your character not black/brown
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idea: introduce full clears to zb like a full fow clear for a whole lot of coins
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>>2506710
uoh
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>>2507031
My Dervish is Mediterranean.
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>>2507031
Swallow the NVBIAN pill.
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>>2507243
are you fucking with me
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>>2507243
Idea: no.
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>>2507746
why?
>>2507918
okay so you are fine with adding signet of spirits heroes to pre but can't have a full fow clear 3x the regular zcoin reward? give me your coordinates I'll come and strangle you
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>>2508347
>okay so you are fine with adding signet of spirits heroes to pre
where the fuck did I say that, nigger?
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>>2508347
not guy you are replying to but what a crazy strawman lol

I don't know why you phrased it like you did, we already have a category of missions for killing all the enemies in an area, it's called vanquish. It'd be nice if they added more areas to the game to the vanquish list, DoA vanquish would be insane though, that's like 800 enemies~.
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>>2508347
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>>2508388
bro did you just seriously post a screencap of a twitter post
>>2508384
stfu bitch
>>2508385
I think it would be cool to add fow and uw to the mix, not just a few quests from each. otherwise zb is 80% random literally who bosses
you already have doa and slaver's piecemeal
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>>2508436
yeah you're a fucking retard
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>>2508443
ur so mean </3
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>>2508347
>why?
if full clear means doing all of a dungeon, every eotn dungeon including slavers has bounty quests for the final boss, plus ones for kanaxai and the deep. only dhuum, fow, mallyx aren't bounties, and other bosses in those zones are
if you mean clearing all the groups in a zone, there are zvqs
you are at most talking about 3 long areas in the game being kludged into a system that already works. take the khobay, priest, lich bounties and there's your 3x points
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whats so great about zcoins anyway
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>>2509681
you can make fancy skins for your pvp chars use to be able to make 60/60s but they fixed that finally
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>>2509681
you can get a special rune of holding which gives +5 more space in bag slots for 15 total space per bag, and +5 space for belts for total of 10. You can also get heavy equip pack which has 20 slots.
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I was playing a lot and having fun leveling my RMo then one day a month or two ago I didn't log on and haven't since and now I'm sad.
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>>2509681
with zcoins you can go from 20+5+10+10+5=50 inv slots to 20+10+15+15+20=90
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>>2509458
people barely do mallyx anyway and you already have each part of doa as a zb, it's only uw and fow that you have like two or three quests out of the entire area
>if you mean clearing all the groups in a zone, there are zvqs
no retard I'm talking about the chest so all quests
>you are at most talking about 3 long areas in the game
ok and? God forbid we play the game
>>2509681
it's not about zcoins but finding pugs or exposing people to these two missions they would otherwise likely not do
zaishen stuff is pretty much the only way to find people to do content with and people will not do fow or uw unless they are in a dedicated guild in the first place
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>>2511274
fow and uw have been power crept to irrelevance and with the new dungeon dropping crystallines and eternal blades there's even less reason to do uw now theres just nothing hard about either one except a few quest they need updated
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>>2511412
yeah but ectos are back on the menu
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>>2511412
they are fun____________________________________________________________________________________________________
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Reminder to everybody that one week after tomorrow (June 2nd) is the guild's 16th anniversary. We should do something even if we log in and circlejerk at the guild hall for ten minutes.
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>>2511723
yes they are we normally do a 4/4 split just to make it interesting in fow
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>>2511800
fow run all melee either warrior or dervish no monks
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>>2510013
>>2510185
but thats like a lot of work just to be able to pick up a few more low value items on a vanquish or something
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>>2511961
its nice for late game when you have multiple weapons + cons/pcons
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I don't know what those retards at 2weeks have done to break Hero AI but they need to revert the entire game back to before the reforged update and and leave the game the fuck alone. Nobody wants their faggot hands touching it, we were happy before.
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>>2512131
I hope they don't listen to people like you
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>>2512156
Rude.
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>>2512131
welcome to every guild wars update from nightfall launch onward
>>2511961
you want that extra space if you want to experiment with different builds.
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now if he would just nerf derv mes air eles all pve skills or only allow 1 per bar and cut the benefits from cons/pcons in half the game could heal
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you can't stop me from running splinter barrage
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>>2511831
>>2511723
FoW is the only elite area dungeon that I feel has been power crept to irrelevance which is why I almost never run it because you have to go out of your way to avoid running anything remotely meta to make the run even slightly interesting.

On that note - I mentioned this ingame, but in a week or 2 we're going to do a 4/4 HM FoW run. For those unfamiliar, we'll be a party of 8 and split into 2 teams of 4 to go clear FoW out.

The reason to do this is because it's far too easy to role compress counter everything FoW throws at you in an 8 man party (especially when most enemy parties are between 3-6 enemies). In a 4 man party you need to spend more time considering your role as opposed to just turn brain off and spam buttons off cooldown DPS. Individual player actions carry a lot more weight and feels more satisfying to bring a good off meta build that can carry a party through difficult segments.

Start considering your builds, it'll be 1-2 weeks from now.

>>2511961
Not as much as you think, I like to grab the big 200+ coin bountys/vanquishes and save them until a double week to turn in for 400 coins. Not to mention you can join real players to do dungeon ZBs and other end game areas as opposed to playing with heroes.
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>>2512356
you forgot bip and st
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>>2512372
>but in a week or 2
a week from tomorrow?!?
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>>2512356
Nerf Maelstrom.
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>>2512380
it'll be either June 6th~ or June 13th

>>2512373
Wishlist:

Nerfs:
1) Nerf splinter weapon (too much damage for low investment)
2) Revert Fast Casting (reducing recharge is retarded)
3) Reduce AoE circles of many mesmer dom magic skills (no reason cry of frustration should be an AREA armor ignoring 70 damage AoE rupt)

Buffs:
1) Make Strength give 1.5 pen per attrib
2) Buff Water and Earth magic support skills
3) Cut all dagger attacks with a recharge over 4 seconds in half.
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I do have to wonder if
>REFORGED IS BAD BAD BAD anon
is the same as
>THEY ANNOUNCED GUILD WARS 3 anon
luhmao
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>>2511274
>no retard
pretty funny when it's from trying to decipher your thought process, asking for a new boss bounty quest for the single area in the game without a final boss. you're infectiously retarded
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what about an endless dungeon mode where you start with a random set and unlock skills and heroes as you go
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>>2512585
I need to finish up my pitch for sealed deck pve and post it on the wiki suggestions thing
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>>2512433
I think they've soft announced GW3, just by the volume of positions they've opened, and the investor calls. I don't think reforged is bad though, other than this pussy footing around shit. They should go the OSRS route, and be willing to change the game as it was, and more importantly add much more content than they've done. I get they're slowly building up the tools, but they need to lean into it. Make BIG changes and just do not give a fuck about pve hero meta, pvp HoH meta, arm barons, or anything. They can always just roll back to earlier balance patches if they need. Economy can't be undone but as long as the average player is fine, it's okay.
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>>2512999
It's clear that they have been focusing less on content and more on systems to support handheld and mobile. With the hiring of Linsey Murdock, I expect there to be more actual content coming eventually.
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>>2513245
>With the hiring of Linsey Murdock
-_-
>and DOCTOR Stephen's tard-wrangling
O_O
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>>2513245
So are they going to fix the snow effect in shiverpeaks? I can't imagine that not killing a phone.
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>>2512533
>I can't possibly imagine a scenario where they add a bundle of fow / uw quests to zb because it... doesn't have a le boss at the end!!!
>it's le bounty... so there has to be a le boss...
that's crazy bro they definitely don't have the *unlocks a hero in pre* resources to do that that's just *does the new dungeon* impossible dude forget about it
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>>2514068
Turn off Enhanced Draw Distance
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Elementalist is my cutest character but holy shit is it miserable to play on anything with even the slightest bit of armor.
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>Since October 2021, all CD Keys generated for retail sales have been set to the American datacenter as the default. In a similar way, any access generated on the Steam, Apple and Google platforms also default to the American datacenter. This in no way prevents you from using the District Dropdown (PC) or Map Travel Dialog (Mobile) to choose another datacenter. This selection is 'sticky' - you'll continue to play in that datacenter until you change it.

>The American Datacenter is in Virginia. Virginia was chosen because across all of the Americas it has the best ping. The European Datacenter is in Frankfurt and was also chosen for its central location and is the datacenter used for the European language districts. Finally there is a third datacenter in Seoul, Korea. The Korean Datacenter supports all of the Asian language districts. Feel free to choose the datacenter that gives you the best play experience. Datacenter language and your UI language can be set independently.
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Dear guildmates, it is Zashen Mission week this week, and today's mission is a cool one, Dunes of Despair. It would be great if we could group for this. Let's try in an hour?
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>>2515749
Post in 45 minutes and I'll log on if I'm here.
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>>2515749
1 PM on a workday damn e*ro's.
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>>2516436
that’s what mobile is for
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>veteran mode got cucked
lmao
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>Dark Aura – Heroes now prioritize targets w/specific skills that have health sacrifice effects (Contagion, Soul Taker, Signet of Agony, Touch of Agony, Wallow's Bite); targets w/these skills are buffed out of combat in most circumstances; targets w/Masochism active w/adjacent targets also have high priority; targets w/sacrifice skills are prioritized in combat if the target has adjacent enemies. Basic enemies target their allies w/sacrifice abilities w/adjacent targets.
Soul Taker necro stocks on the rise
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>Reforged Mode is moving out of Alpha and into Beta status.
>Reforged Mode will be on by default for new characters.
And they overhauled their original Reforged -> default experience ideas regarding titles and et al.
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https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Feedback:Game_updates/20260527
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>fags who were scared of badges cucked themselves out of content drop hype and playing with everyone else out of paranoia, and all for nothing
o im kekking
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Is there new content post searing yet?
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>>2516705
https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Tunnels_of_the_Forsaken
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>>2516646
I think I will try some Dark Aura builds again.
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>>2516646
>badge paranoia was for nothing
lmao
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>Teinai's Crystals – Removed point-blank AI flag so it can be used by AI at range; adjusted consider so that casters prefer water-hexed enemies, ideally ones with additional enemies within the skill's range.
aw fuck yeah
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>>2516532
and here I was waiting on my GWAMM Rit that would "do nothing, receive badge" someday.
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>>2516646
>Reward
>1000 Experience
>500 Gold
>4 Skill Points
>Tydus's Tips (5th edition)
>Belt Pouch
>Belt Pouch
>Superior Identification Kit
>Superior Salvage Kit
>Ascalonian Key
>Ascalonian Key
why 2 belt pouches
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>>2517083
It's actually a normal bag, not another belt pouch.
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>>2516661
what's wrong with shit calm down before I play it
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>>2516646
veteran badge is going to be so cucked like wow you refuse to play new content and have to show everyone you locked yourself out of it
fuck off
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>>2517605
they're not doing a badge. There's essentially no reason to not do reforged mode unless you just want slightly increased health on things for .. reasons.
as far as I know that's the only changes to content, and it's only effective in proph regions.
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>>2517605
>didn't read the link you quoted
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>Our previous plan to mark titles based on Reforged Mode usage has unfortunately discouraged veteran players from checking out the new content with their existing characters.
The admission. The confession. They admit that their shitty ass changes were staunchly RESISTED by TRVE HYPERBOREANS.
They cannot comprehend that people do not want AWFUL CHANGES and their ego does not let them reflect, or admit fault. No responsibility. This is a woman, and by extension, a NIGGER mindset.
And so they will force the enshittification not only upon the NPCs but upon genuine thinking men too. They will RUIN it sooner than you think. Remember that evil cannot create, it can only destroy.
Every chud "kekking" above thought it's about some badge. It was never about the badge but the a*erican mindset cannot comprehend that some things are not for material or corporeal gain. It was about principles, about standing tall in the face of all-consuming adversity and rot. Never take the badge. It bears the demonic sigil and marks you for life as a servant of Baal. Remain true to yourself and your roots.
And you, neophytes of the Zionist Occupied Guild Wars (ZOGW), you can stuff your new content (heroes with post skills from different campaigns in pre (lmao), nothingburger quests and a dungeon that doesn't even have a section on GWSCR wiki that's been dead already few days after it got released) in a sack.
Sons of Agartha, heed my call: faithful unto death to TRVE Guild Wars.
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>>2517953
I'm happy for you, or sorry that happened.
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>>2516616
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>>2517953
they admitted that sperglords were so worried about street cred when it comes to badges that they decided to accomodate their autism
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>>2517967
Kek
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>>2517967
what class combo would he play
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guy just dropped a q9 prot frog
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forming for bog zb come to gadds
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q10 curses hehe
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>>2511274
There's no point in doing mallyx to be fair.

A speed clear of the 4 areas is ~25 minutes give or take a bit depending on the team (can be 40+ with shitters), and from chest drops alone you get 5 of each gemset on average. Mallyx takes 15ish minutes for a single gemset.

>>2518235
It's their fault for a) gating content behind being in clown mode b) failing to actually tell people what the rules were.

Anyone who didn't already have titles on a character who may have wanted them in the future was scared to even turn the mode on because there was no communication about whether that would add a permanent black mark to the character or not. The only way anyone knew was people risking it and explicitly testing it. Even that wasn't enough to convince some people because they (justifiably) were concerned about a silent update that fucked them down the road later.

A lack of clarity is part for the course with Anet though. They've done stupid shit like this so many times over the years it's not even funny. GW2 launch was full of this kind of stupidity. Even a few years after launch there were tons of things where they were trying to patch around people "playing the game wrong because we did something stupid.' GW3 is going to be no different.
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>>2521286
I dunno man the text of the article introducing it did state that it only affected titles that you progressed (that is earned an actual title with) with the badge on.
At least that's how I read it.
also.. who really cares about the badge on titles? nobody else can see it but you, it only shows in the hero panel, not what other people see as your displayed title. You'd be the only one what knew any parts of that title were earned with refroiged mode.
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>>2507243
I like it, but I think it's kind of unnecessary if you're just looking at finding pugs. FoW and UW are the 2 places I actually see pugs forming in EB pretty much daily.
I don't think it's a BAD idea, as unlike DOA and SEx, you can't just slowly build up to the last boss with ZB's in the individual wings first. So when people do ZB's for FOW they just nail that target and bounce not doing the full zone quests.
UW and Deep already have final boss bounties.
So I'd think it was a great idea.... except I do see pugs form for those.
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>>2521418
I was worried about account wide titles personally
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>>2521418
>I dunno man the text of the article introducing it did state that it only affected titles that you progressed (that is earned an actual title with) with the badge on.

Does progress mean "I got 0.1% carto while in reforged, so now it's blackmarked forever" or "I earned a rank so it's blackmarked" or "as long as it's not the final rank I'm not blackmarked" or something else entirely? It was shit wording no matter how you look at it, and they did not clarify it at all.
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>>2520090
Wammo
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>>2522390
the way I read it, it was if you got a rank with the badge the badge would show on the hero panel, and logically I deduced that if you earned another rank without the badge the badge would disappear, because it'd only show for titles that you earned with the badge on, so it'd only permanently mark that title if you completed the final tier with the badge.

Could it have worded it better yeah
But this is what made sense. Having it flag your account with a badge for 0.1% progress didn't make sense, otherwise think about it for DC.
if you died before you got the first rank of survivor title it'd still show the badge for successfully getting legendary survivor later after you were ineligible for DC.. you'd still have a Dhuum badge. That makes no sesne and defeats the purpose of having DC badges on titles.

>>2522361
Nah I knew those were totally unimpacted. I gained the Jinxed title over anni, no DC badge on my DC character (which is also reforged mode since I made it on the day they launched both, but noticed there's no reforged badge on my LDOA, there was until a couple days ago)

actually here take a look, before and after, I gained some ranks on these account based titles and did not get either badge on them, and note the loss of the reforged badge on my LDOA title

this should settle all the badge boogyman fear
but now I'll probably have some sperg attack me over having kurzick rather than luxon. I like the drip better.
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The /age command has been updated, so you can show off your clean badge status that way now.

>>2522457
>k*rz*ck
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>>2522572
yup, I like the elite kurzick armors better for warrior and mesmer.
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>>2522608
I use standard version on my warrior and ranger, but still piss on the roots of K*rz*ck trees when I leave their towns. Elite Mesmer is nice too, but I switched off it to something else.
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>>2522783
I don't care about factions pvp shit
I just went purely for what armor I liked the looks of more.
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>>2522785
Have you tried having a sense of humor? You're allowed to have fun with a meaningless choice you made 20 years ago.
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>>2522788
I dunno, a lot of times people really take that shit seriously for some reason.
When I first read your post, I at first thought I read "sense of honor" because it's what I expected out of someone who takes the factions PVP seriously.
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>>2522792
it’s a meme because the guild is luxon so we have to bully kurzdicks by default
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>>2522783
> Kurzik ranger armor
It looks good, but Luxons have the best male ranger armor in the game
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>>2523961
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>>2522572
Thanks, never playing reforged mode now.
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>>2522918
Is there a guild for white people?
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>>2524473
kurzoids are hapas
suxons are meds
you want an ascalon's chosen inv
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>>2524520
>smothers white paint all over skin
My name is Klaus von Heltzer Chang and I have 100% pure Ascalonian heritage
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shove removing stances and kding targets is pretty great and reapers with cracked into body blow hits casters for about 70% damage good fun
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>person posts a wtb for something I have
>whisper them to negotiate
>no response
why do people post wtb/wts then immediately go afk?
fuck this trading system is so pozzed
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>>2527211
bought it somewhere else, nigga
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>>2527218
I whispered within seconds of the post, and they could at least say "I already got it, ty" or something
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>>2527231
people are niggers, i'm afraid
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>>2527211
>fuck this trading system is so pozzed
Better than a trading house or some other gay shit.
I'd rather having to hawk my wares via chat or party search than have everything be traded through a commodity/stock market. That garbage attracts jews and bots like no other, permafucking the economy and community.
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>>2527413
actually this shit appeals to Jews and bots even harder, they have separate accounts just to spam trades and this entire system favors those who will just stand in town all day spamming for the best deals.
Hint they're not normal players
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Anet is teasing something for Friday on both their GW1 and GW2 accounts.
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>>2535028
Probably a formal gw3 announcement
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https://bsky.app/profile/guildwars2.com/post/3mnahf6vkoo2o
definitely feels like GW3 reveal
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Is "GW3 is happening" the same sperg who gets mad when people don't immediately assemble whenever he wants to run DoA?
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>>2535053
There's very few things they'd bother to tease on both accounts
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>>2535053
cope
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>>2535096
>Newfag casts "Cope!"
>...It has no effect
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>>2535146
GW3 is coming, it's a 100% certainty. It's up to you how to deal with it, but denial of reality is not healthy.
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>>2535181
>Newfag casts "I predict your emotional state!"
>...It has no effect
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if gw3 is real I hope it's a prequel
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>>2535367
They would never, but it would be the right move
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>>2535390
There's a lot of really important lore that anet's barely touched, plenty to make a full prequel game. I can't fathom where a sequel game would go unless they're changing genres to be an FPS battle royale.

Maybe we'll finally get an actual story about the "guild wars" that took place prior to GW1.
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>>569060996
>>569061173
I don't think there was a GW1 /vm/ thread last time I checked... huh.
Either way, it's exactly because I went through the hassle of getting LDOA in my first character that I don't want to screw it up by missing a quest with unique rewards or whatever.
Isn't there a hero unique to pre searing in reforged mode? I don't have any heroes atm.
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>>2535508
i forgor to add the board to the quotes
>>>/vg/569060996
>>>/vg/569061173
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>>2535508
We've had a /vm/ thread for the last 4 years or so I don't blame you for struggling to find us though, vm is a pretty obscure board, but I find it comfy.

Main reasons we're not on /vg/
1) Having to spam bumps to keep our thread above the gacha gooner porn is miserable, and I'd rather the general die than be forced to post furry porn to stay alive.
2) We're a thread who's primary purpose is playing multiplayer together, as opposed to discussing the game
3) Being on /vm/ filters the retards, spergs, and bots on /vg/
4) I don't want to share a board with GW2


Anyway, for the new content have you completed this quest?
https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/A_Bastion_In_the_North

This unlocks Piken Square

As far as Pre Searing is concerned, other than the LDOA title there is nothing character bound unique/important for you to miss if you were to leave pre searing now. Devona can be unlocked later, any pre searing specific items you can always get later on a different character and transfer them to your other characters. LDOA is the only thing in pre searing that you miss out on if you leave (which can make GWAMM SLIGHTLY harder)
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>>2535519
You're not going to have much fun as a level 20 in Prophecies. That that character as your perma-pre and make a new one, and leave around lvl 5-7 this time.
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>Ascalonians really name their sons "Deeter"
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>>2535367
i can't imagine it being anything other than a prequel. a sequel would require balls and ideas.
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>>2536232
They're not going to make a prequel because half their audience is made up of people who only ever want to play Charr, Asura, and Sylvari and none of those could really exist alongside humans in the game's past without a completely alternate timeline.
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>>2536266
>>2536232
A human only prequel would be the right move but that's exactly why anet won't do it
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>>2536332
they could have dwarves too
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>>2536362
Probably could do tengu if they wanted.
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>>2536229
was poltroon a name or a title
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What are we doing for the guild anniversary tomorrow?
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>>2535639
>4) I don't want to share a board with GW2
based
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>>2536613
working lol I don't really have any plans but someone else is welcome to run something.

On saturday at around 3 PM EST I'll do that 4/4 HM FoW run I mentioned earlier >>2512372
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https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Feedback:User/Soldier198/General_PvP_Balance

people still trying to push balance changes think these faggot devs would? i got no faith
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>>2537149
i've been out of touch with the meta for 17 years dude don't ask me
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>>2537149
I like how he uses "was" and "were" talking about the state of the pre-nerf skills, taking for granted that all his changes got made
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>>2537219
How would you feel if you hadn't eaten breakfast today?
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how would you feel if you didn't nigger up the thread
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I love it when nigger is used as a verb
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>>2536613
I have a job unfortunately
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>>2537079
>>2538424
>working to donate to the guild coffers so we can take over an outpost IRL
Proud of you two.
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>>2538408
i like it when niggers nigger niggerly, just warms my heart
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>>2537079
>On saturday at around 3 PM EST I'll do that 4/4 HM FoW run
can we do Sunday instead
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>>2537149
Wow I was expecting some retardation but just about all of these are pretty well thought out and reasonable suggestions given the PvP meta. Hits about everything I can think of.

>>2539388
It would have to be 2+ hours earlier, or 2+ hours later, I'm busy at 3 PM on Sunday
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>>2537617
are you retarded
the reason it's funny is that he's aping gw patch notes stylistically
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>>2539388
no we are at church nigga
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>>2536229
Singh is native Ascalonian name, saar. Very traditional.
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>>2541548
Sikhs = Charr
18 Year old English boys = Ascalon
monster.
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>>2540361
2 hours earlier would work
>>2540485
you heathens never set foot in a church
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>>2540485
dis nigga eats Kormir
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I'm gonna do it
I'm gonna run Scythe Warrior
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>>2544260
be sure to post incessantly about it. can also recommend posting about ele vs destroyers
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>>2544260
real secret chinese tech is to go W/E scythe with 7WS and a conjure and use only generic melee skills from strength
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>>2545004
>10 energy enchant
>all energy attack skills
bro my 20 energy pool and 2 regen pip
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>anet screws up everything and pisses on their previous work
>their previous work is now gw2
MULTIPLY A NEGATIVE BY A NEGATIVE. THIS CANNOT GO WRONG
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>>2545145
bro your battery motigon
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>>2545145
get a necro mod
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>>2545236
I have one but even with that I don't think you can sustain an all energy attack build on warrior without WE or having to manual BIP
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>>2545253
get attunements, radiants, and the +5 energy inscription
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>>2543051
If we're going to do 1 PM EST on Sunday people going to need to show up on time. Long as everyone is ok with that I'm fine with that time.
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>>2545669
wtf
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>>2546123
he ain't lyin, naga
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fuck skeletal wizards and the niggers who designed them.
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>>2546943
probably my least favorite enemy in the entire fucking game
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>>2547032
the fact that each one has multiple ways to blind and you usually find 4 of them in a pack makes it impossible to not be blind
antidote signet and multiple mend body and soul casts still can't keep up with all 4 of them.
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>>2547140
https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Sight_Beyond_Sight
finally a use for Spawning Power weapon mods
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>>2547140
Honestly just run ascan. I actually wouldn't have an issue with the eotn skills being so strong if the enemy composition required them more consistently.
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>>2547140
I agree they should have no skills available and be completely still like the skellies in gates of kryta if you go out the back
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>>2547321
>actually wouldn't have an issue with the eotn skills being so strong if the enemy composition required them more consistently
and if they only worked in eotn areas
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>>2545669
okay
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>>2547834
I'd have taken a restriction of 1 outside, but basically yeah. And then I'd make the dungeon staff drops not be limited to primary+inspiration.
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>>2547649
no it'd be better if they only had 1 per group so that condition removals could at least keep blind off you effectively. Blinding Surge is still an 8s cooldown so you'd still be having to use those condition purges basically off cooldown to keep up.
but when groups have 4 of them you can't your condition clears don't come off cooldown faster than their 4 blinding surges, and eruption you can get hit by 1 tick of that and you're blind again.
When it's cursed brigand groups they don't have extra wizards in those pulls so their bsurge is managable.
It's when there's 4 and each has a backup blindness.
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>>2548229
idk I don't mind them personally but agree they are more frustrating than the rest
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>>2548598
I guess if you're using scan, on my ranger I can't really afford scan. Even with necro bow grip energy can be a struggle and I'm stuck manually BIP'ing before pulls
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>>2546943
doing Shards of Orr on my full physical team is one of the most painful experiences I've ever had in this game
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>>2548645
the last boss fight is kind of fun (have to be conscious of pulling Fendi Nin away from where the drowned crewmen will spawn) but all the wizard groups up until it are just obnoxious. I get through them fine it's just on a martial I contribute fuck all cause I'm blind all the time.
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>>2548637
>on my ranger
huh? just use lotus strike :^)
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>>2548645
A while back as a meme we started doing bawway speedruns of SoO with 8 dervs and the best strategy for dealing with the blindness was just running 1-2 melandru dervs to AoE blind clear, you could clear blind faster than they could apply, and with AoHM you could do a very respectable amount of DPS.
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why do so many nice staff skins get locked to inspiration magic and primaries.. they are essentially unusable.
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In a moment of inspiration, I remembered my original Nightfall login info from when I played as a dumb kid (OG 10-energy Chilling Victory my beloved). Most heroes were level 11/14, but Koss remained my stalwart ally. Here was my galaxy-brain loadout for him. It's a miracle I ever managed to get to and kill Abaddon mostly solo. At least I have 4 throwaway characters' worth of accumulated birthday gifts. Anything I should look out for when opening them?
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>>2552713
That Koss is on his hands and knees begging for energy.
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>>2552713
https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Birthday_Present
The greens from the sixth birthdays and the second row from the seventh birthdays.
Everything else goes in the trash.
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>>2552739
zesty
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>>2552739
>>2553061
The more I look at it, the worse it is. I think this is why the sunspears ultimately fell between GW1 and GW2. I almost feel ashamed of how badly I fucked it up. But on the other hand, I can at least be proud of how far I've come since then, and I can appreciate that the game's skill system is so good that it was distinctly memorable to me for almost 20 years despite my incredibly poor mastery of it only scratching the surface.
>attributes spread thin
>hammer mastery 8 insufficient for req9+ hammer he would have had
>only hammer skill costs adrenaline 7, not even one of the knockdown ones
>Tainted Flesh would have caused disease to spread to the rest of my party from Kournans/corsairs throughout the latter half of Kourna and all of Vabbi because the allied disease immunity is only from one of the 2026 updates
>doubtlessly insufficient energy to hardly ever summon minions, which I absolutely should have noticed the lack of in my party while traversing the world
>Master of Whispers was RIGHT THERE and I somehow chose Koss for minion master duty instead

>>2552746
Thanks, I'll keep that in mind.
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>>2552713
is this the power of bawwbuilds?
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SALE IS ACTIVE
https://store.guildwars.com/en-us
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>>2553623
wasn’t there supposed to be a gw3 announcement today
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>>2554252
Yes, that's why they're liquidating everything.
Even the newest GW2 shit is on sale.
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>>2552713
KINOOOOOOOOO
and we had people talking about how they needed pvx heroes to get to vabbi. birthday presents aren't worth much, you can gamble on tonics (6th) or rare minis (7th) but your ev is basically 0
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>>2535053
>>2535315
GET FUCKED LMAO
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Guild wars 3 is real
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You guys promised me Guild Wars 3 wasn't real.
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REAL
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>trailer sounds like a advert to get adventurers to start a new life in Orr
>Gods shown including Balthazar
I think this might actually be a Prequel.
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>riding a mount
Yeah I'm out I'll stick with 1
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is it me, or does it look like Highguard?
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>>2554513
its unreal, so yeah. most of the job listings they've had from the last few years have all asked for experience with it. and iirc the engine behind 1 and 2 were modified unreal engines
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>beta in fall 2027
based arena net will have over a year of doomposting about the thing
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>>2535053
>>2535315
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>>2535053
what now, faggot?
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>mounts
>niggers
>console
I will be playing gw1 until my deathbed
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>>2535053
lmao
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>Become a Vaelwarden, a guardian of the land of Orr, protector of the people and spirits that call Orr home. Discover untold stories and forge lasting bonds with your fellow players as you glide, leap, sprint, and ride your way across a frontier with adventure around every corner.
WHERE MY ORRIAN NIGGAS AT
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we have less than two years until the current player base is shattered again
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>>2554578
WELCOME... TO HIGHGUARD.
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>>2554626
>A Modern Evolution of the MMO
Master a combat system where depth is achieved through strategic skill use, positioning, and movement – where action RPG combat meets Guild Wars build-making – creating a unique combat experience.
>Run, slide, leap, and bound across Orr with a one-of-a-kind movement system that transfers your momentum between modes of travel, providing a free-form joy of movement through a world alive with adventure.
>>2554632
it's called the cataclysm not the shattering dumbass
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>>2554636
fortnite
>>2554643
she shatters my enchantment until I panic
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>>2554632
Guild Wars 1 players aren't going to leave for 3.
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>>2554626
>>2554643
If they don't bring back monks then I'll immediately lose interest.
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>>2554666
yeah if anything some small fraction of gw3 players are gonna leave for 1 lmao
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>>2554626
>ORRIAN NIGGAS
He's right there in the trailer.
Didn't I warn you all that they'd replace the arabs with niggers? Orr is now the land of Mbongo Wakanda and furries.
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>>2554666
I remember 2012
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>Abaddon and Dhuum
we're doing real ancient history prequel
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>>2554693
Same. Kamadan was basically dead and trying to find a single other person (much less a group) doing any zaishen mission or bounty was impossible. That was around the time I quit until reforged.
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>"Tomorrow, June 6, we’ll be releasing a studio update video, and you’ll hear directly from Studio Head Colin Johanson, Guild Wars 2 Game Director Josh Davis, and Guild Wars® Reforged Game Director Stephen Clarke-Willson as they discuss the future of the Guild Wars franchise."
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>>2554693
GW2 was the sequel to 1 and people had faith in anet, of course people left to go play it.
Now we have had 14 years to see what post GW1 Guild Wars looks like and it doesn't look like Guild Wars. The people still playing GW1 really want to play Guild Wars.
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>>2535053
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>>2554768
I wish I had your optimism and hope you are right
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>>2554744
>Guild Wars® Reforged Game Director Stephen Clarke-Willson as they discuss the future of the Guild Wars franchise
>lads it's been a good run but we're shutting al the servers down. goodbye. we will mass balance change ele and derv 1 more time before the end, and warrior and sin never ever
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>>2554744
>Guild Wars®
>®
lol
DOCTOR Stephen is going to have to contain his powerlevel around those other two donuts.
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>>2554820
SCW will decapitate the two jews live then pledge allegiance to National Socialism and vow to restore Guild Wars to its former glory
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I'm very happy to see this announcement. So is bear.

What's a fun pet btw? I've used bear for awhile now.
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HAHAHAHAHA all you fuckers who spent the last 3+ years coping out of your mind denying all evidence before you get fucked

>The investor call was a mistranslation, just because anet asked for the blessing to work on a GW3 doesn't mean it's being worked on
>All of those jobs anet is hiring for an "existing IP" and an "MMO" aren't GW3, it's just a different ncsoft IP MMO
>The current expansion cycle is simply more sustainable they aren't moving resources away from the game, they're just finding a consistent release schedule

get fucked lmao.

>>2554578
Won't be that long, I 100% expect anet to get bungie'd and GW3 torpedo's the entire studio by 2028. Hilariously GW1 is now so profitable (10% of anet's total earnings) and with a 2nd studio working on it that there exists a reality where anet goes bankrupt, GW2/3 gets shutdown due to not being profitable enough and GW1 gets to live on run by the OG anet employees at 2weeks. We may actually live to see the good ending.
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>sperging out this hard about the announcement
You launched into histrionics every single time it was brought up and threatened physical violence toward anybody who disagreed with you(r vague evidence) LMAO I would saw your hands off if I met you in real life.
>feels guy edit :O face posted
sasuga
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>>2555202
I agree it's likely that GW3 kills anet, but I think there is a near 0% chance that GW1 servers stay up if that happens. We may very well be in the final couple years of Guild Wars.
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>>2555283
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITPzxITngqA
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>>2555287
get real, me buying a name change kept the servers going a month alone
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>>2555287
Agreed but I actually think it's not totally 0%. GW2 is too expensive to run, and requires too many players to actually function as a game so it'll death spiral without enough devs to produce content. Meanwhile GW1 costs next to nothing to run, and has a studio outside of anet running it right now so if anet collapses, 2weeks will still exist.

I think there exists a world where 2weeks either buys the GW1 IP, or anet gives it to them because it would be their only game that produces more money than it costs to run.
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>>2555283
idk what you guys are arguing about but you sound like a fag
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GW3 trailer looks like absolute shit
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>>2555373
they done announce new guild war
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>so mad he replied twice
awkward
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I went to the gw2 thread and they are freaking out
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>>2555461
duh
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>>2555461
>retards have dogshit taste
color me shocked
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>>2555477
don't bait it's unbecoming
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>>2555461
surprising since GW3 looks more like GW2 than GW
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>>2554577
I'm sorry but that is a terrible logo
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>>2555629
the logo is actually the only thing I like about it
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>>2554577
i hope this kills gw2
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>>2555487
that's why it's a threat
chess players aren't scared of a chess trading card game becoming popular, they're scared of go
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>>2555487
[and undying live service games mean people aren't excited about sequels, they just want to keep playing their game with their characters and stuff]
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>>2555705
Yes. I will continue playing GW1 because there is nothing like it.
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>>2535053
You done samefagging?
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raped and gaped you stupid bitch
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>>2555964
How long will you continue to samefag? Just a curious question.
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i expected gw3 to be announced
i expected gw3 to be bad
i did not expect gw3 to feature john highguard
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>>2556078
I swear it's not just a UE5 thing, this particular aesthetic is a mind virus.
Magic the Gathering recently applied it to their reboot of a fan favorite set for some reason. They've got the same plasticine blob body contouring animal + soft queer human thing going on.
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Why was Guild Wars called Guild Wars again? In lore the ackshual "Guild Wars" happened before the events of GW1, ya?
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>>2556960
The third Guild War is ongoing in pre-Searing. Some of the quests in pre are even related to this.
There are lots of referencing in post-Searing Ascalon too, with the Krytan Ambassador and Adelbern distrusting him, disowning his son for wanting to go to Kryta as a refugee, etc.
Most of the destroyed stuff north of the wall is actually destroyed from the Guild Wars, not from the Searing.
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>>2556960
>>2556965
GvG was likely the center of the original game's design. The warring guilds were (You).
PvE stuff was amplified as a direct response to player feedback. The devs originally thought of it as an extended tutorial and not much more.
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>>2556965
>>2556970
And in Factions, the "Guild Wars" is the conflict between Kurzick and Luxon factions, ya?

What about Nightfall? Was it just nigfall-on-nigfall gang violence?
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>>2556984
>I'm going to pretend to not understand what you're saying!
Okay then.
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>>2556992
this post brought to you by the american education system
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>>2556960
>>2556984
>ya?
*smacks lips*
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>>2556910
Crazy how much I hate modern magic yet still want to play that game
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>>2556984
>*smacks lips* so you be sayin it be Gang Warz, ya?
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>gw3 will take place 1000 years before the current story
so no salads, no asurans and no kormir?
this might actually be good
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>>2558041
Charr could still be playable if they make it a PvP race war
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>mysticism is just a better version of expertise
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>>2558242
it's less that and more that it does some of what expertise does while also allowing dervs to have full energy recovery rather than gimping them the way rangers are.
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>>2558267
dont forget about the armor when enchanted
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>>2558313
I mean kinda but rangers get a huge chunk of armor vs elemental so that aspect I can find balanced.
More derv enchants have a baseline of 5 energy cost vs Rangers most their attack skills worth using are 10 energy base.
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>>2558331
oh i just mean mysticism in general +armor cheaper skills very balanced
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>>2558365
probably.
ranger skills being reduced to mostly 5 energy base would solve a lot of their issues. This shit of "we'll make an attribute lower energy costs" "oh but we'll make all the skills twice as expensive by default" ends up making expertise required but zero sum.
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>>2558394
one day they will buff monks wars rangers i want armor pen on all attacks for war and imagine a ranger with a bow
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>>2558394
>required but zero sum
I think this is the exact design intention of a lot of primary attributes. It's why Mesmer spell activation times are on the slow side, while elementalists have so many 15 and 25 energy cost spells, and so forth. The design protects class identity by making many of their skills less functional without their primary attribute.
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>>2558449
it doesn't protect ranger identity though
it makes rangers realize they're better off going with daggers.
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>>2558488
>it makes rangers realize they're better off going with daggers.
this has been debunked
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>>2558620
I don't think it has, mate.
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>>2558639
it has mate
Together as one bow spam is a very good build, with triple shot being able to do like 250+ damage
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>>2558639
I play Bow Spam ranger, I can regularly be in top 3 DPS in a group and depending on the team comp I can outDPS mesmers, that said I do think dagger is the more absolute "meta DPS" option, but only by like 2-3%, you literally won't be able to see the DPS difference unless you run a DPS meter, meanwhile I can do extreme single target ranged pressure, without having to worry about the large amount of anti melee in the game.

As far as utility is concerned, I would rather have a bow TaO over a dagger TaO in most situations. Bow range pressure is crazy and it has great killing power. Dagger does fantastic DPS but ranger armor is not that great outside of fighting ele's. Assassin, derv, warrior will all have better frontline tank options compared to a 'squishy' ranger.
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>>2558926
>>2558958
I find it really mediocre, because of it's energy demands, even with a necromancer grip, you're stuck manually BiP'ing which is obnoxious, or you tether yourself to FW spirit and have to wait for its cooldowns almost every pull in order to run expert focus.
That and having to recast preparations kills flow.
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>>2558958
i dont even care about ''meta''
i've played this game for decades, gone through the entire story in HM on every class
The TaO bowspam was by far the most easy class, even WoC HM was a breeze. The fact that you can just snipe the dangerous enemies from a distance, have a interupt, and also provide a unremovable health regen to your entire team makes it one of the best classes for solo PvE
outside of the paragon but holy fuck that build is boring
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>>2559022
the necromancer grip actually saves the build because you can take out any enemy in seconds
i do agree preparations are aweful and should last longer, based on your expertise
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>>2559049
I'm kinda confused on how you find bowspam more boring than running a boilerplate dagger spammer build that exists on every class in this game and entire gameplay boils down to 123123123 with literally no variations in rotation.

When we talk about TaO bowspam, we're talking about the needle shot build with rupts right?
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>>2558958
>>2559055
>>2559049
sometimes
other times you get spammed with blinding surge and having to scan every enemy bleeds your energy dry.
Anti melee hate still hits you a lot if you're with heroes since you're the only martial in the group.
>>2559151
that's the thing with bowspam, it's just disguised dagger spam between the 2 penetrating shots and needling shot spam when they're low, with triple shot mostly just being your opener, but a lot of times I don't bring triple shot because EVAS to absorb the most dangerous skills instead of your party is just more valuable than that opening salvo.
You either have that opening shot, then everything peels off to pursue your backline, or you use EVAS and it absorbs the most dangerous opening skills from the enemy and keeps them balled up long enough to eat some aoe damage before they break off.
With dagger spam I can jump in and provided I precast shelter, survive as the EVAS myself.
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>>2559151
>I'm kinda confused on how you find bowspam more boring than running a boilerplate dagger spammer build that exists on every class
you are confused because you can't read, i'm not saying bowspam is boring, i'm saying its a very strong build thats very underrated
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>>2558438
What would armor pen do for a class whose attacks ignore armor?
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>>2559222
I don't think you can read anon, from the original comment I was replying to
>"but holy fuck that build is boring"

>>2559193
Might just be a personal preference thing then, I tab target to find a good target to pressure and spam needle shot them down, I'm generally not even using either of the penetrating shots unless it's to bring the enemy below 50% if I wanna play dagger spammer I'll just play assassin, crit strikes + shadow theft/WotL feel more fun/satisfying to play then TaO.
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>>2559249
>I don't think you can read anon, from the original comment I was replying to
>>"but holy fuck that build is boring"
That comment was about the OP paragon build obviously......
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>>2559268
The entire reply was about bowspam, he spent the full sentence describing bowspam, "which makes it one of the best classes for solo PvE outside of paragon" describing how bowspam was one of the best solo classes other than paragon. He literally spends the whole sentence talking about bowspam and comparing paragon to bowspam, what makes you think he's referring to paragon?

I think you've had a few too many hunter ale's anon.
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>>2559323
>what makes you think he's referring to paragon?
NTA but I imagine having a basic grasp of English is the answer.
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are you people black
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>>2559367
Yes, I imagine not being ESL would help greatly when trying to talk to other people.
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This guy seriously just ran a post through AI because he was too stupid to read it.
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>>2559268
>>2559367
>>2559390
slam-dunked that loser
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>>2559390
>>2559421
I'm not going to be gaslit into speaking nigger english because poster is too retarded to write proper english. Don't accuse other people of not reading when you can't even write the language you're expecting other people to read, retards.
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Hey @grok make me a Mysticism Staff Auto Attack build.
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>>2559421
i'm 99% sure he's American
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>>2559444
Assassin/Elementalist
Critical Strikes 12+1+3
Air Magic 12
Mysticism 5

This build uses the Dervish staff "Unveil" with a "of the Dervish" mod to meet the requirements for wielding it. It relies on the Assassin skill Locust's Fury to increase the rate of auto attacking, and the Elementalist skill Lightning Weapon to increase the damage of the auto attacks. Critical Agility then is used to increase attack speed, resulting in even more attacks landing. The remaining skills are Storm Djinn's Haste, Ebon Vanguard Assassin Support, "You Move Like a Dwarf!", and "Finish Him!"

In areas where enemies are vulnerable to knockdown, such as normal mode Gates of Kryta, you can replace Storm Djinn's Haste with Great Dwarf Weapon. Because of the high attack speed and chance of double striking, you will be able to land many knockdowns when attacking with Unveil.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sybTVg0LuGo
>gw1 autist monotone read a script from a teleprompter in 60 seconds and says "cool mystery shit out soon stay tuned"
>gw2 theater kid takes 10 minutes to reassure players nothing's changing and their parents still love them, just not each other
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I don't even have an Assassin.
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>>2559540
that's ok, you probably wouldn't have fun with a locust's fury double strike staff build that self-casts gdw anyway
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>>2559496
>AI still can't buildcraft better then 15 year old me
>this is why RAM is worth more then gold now
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i use a bot to dual-box my paragon so i don't have to play it
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>>2559605
So he's basicly a hero but with pve skills?
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>>2559323
read the context again:
>outside of the paragon but holy fuck that build is boring
it's obvious he means the HR build is boring.
and it kind of is, but it's safe and gets through HM with heroes without frustration since you can tank almost everything and heroes being retarded stops mattering.
on anything else, heroes being retarded can be frustrating because they won't focus fire unless you manually lock them, won't interrupt pulsing AOE's unless you use pain inverter on the target (and I looked into why that happens, it causes all your heroes to target them because they're now the squishiest target according to their targeting priorities), they run away if a melee gets on them, and they'll run across the room to attack a spirit. All that can cause a wipe on most other player builds but the HR build just doesn't care and facetanks it all.
It's just not particularly engaging to play since you're just spamming shouts. You don't even need to hit, standing in AOE and using make your time charges save yourselves for 100% uptime anyway.
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>>2559624
yeah, saves me some money gearing heroes up on my other characters too because he can always run half of them
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>>2559249
>>2559375
lil broski "it['s] one of the best classes outside of the paragon, but holy fuck that build is boring" clearly means "ranger is best aside from paragon, but paragon is boring to play so we'll discount it"
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>>2559534
The only useful take away from this video was anet admitting stopping content production for GW1 content was a mistake
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>>2559248
the strength bonus for armor penetration only works with attack skills would be nice if auto attacks got them as well
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>>2559657
i understand thats convenient, they should just go ahead and allow pve skills on heroes
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>>2559940
tard
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>>2559375
>AI can make mistakes, so double-check responses.
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>>2559966
>omg you cant have heroes using pve skills
>just have a 2nd account run by ai instead
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>>2560019
no, botting is bad too, you can't logic trap me into having 8 ebon vanguard assassins every fight
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>>2560045
I guess but human teams don't do that even though they could.
it's just Para without PVE skills is utterly useless and Para with PVE skills is God mode.
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>>2560158
you've convinced me
nerf paragon pve skills into the ground
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>>2560462
so basically remove Paragon from the game, because without those skills they're totally useless.
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>>2560466
who cares
you didn't say "pve/pvp split and rework the class" you said "give me team-wide +3 attributes or I throw a temper tantrum"
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>>2560476
+4, sorry. you want unconditional +4 attributes on your whole party
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>>2560476
Unless you're running a paragon hero in every team you run daily, you can shut the fuck up.
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You only need HR for the top 0.1% of content and you can run the imbagon build instead for the other 99.9% of content.
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>>2560557
but i put hr in my imbagon build
is my dick going to fall off?
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>>2554955
any advise?
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>>2560531
lmfao where are you getting this moral high ground from, you don't want cool varied paragon builds either, you just want to run hr, sy, tntf
when we did the 8 para run there was some cool stuff, and that general skill pool should be pvp split and slightly buffed. there's no world where every team should have a paragon hero with the exact same build. it was a mistake for rits and it would be stupid for paragons
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>>2560586
because slapping nerfs across the board is easier and more likely than overhauling an entire profession to be useful without the PVE skills.
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I'm seriously thinking about dropping my 20% enchant mod for a necro mod on my prot staff. The energy from even 5 SR is ridiculously good.
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>>2560577
Hmmm, I haven't checked the build in a while but I ran Ebon Assassin instead of Ebon Standard. And then I swapped Ebon Assassin for "YOU MAD, LAD!" because it is more fun and useful imo.
https://gwpvx.fandom.com/wiki/Build:P/W_Imbagon
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>>2560577
You have HR in your Imbagon build. Your dick's turtling.
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>>2560586
>you don't want cool varied paragon builds either, you just want to run hr, sy, tntf
this. nobody voted for /u/'s unique Para build.
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>>2560594
ok, sounds good. my preference is removing hr > status quo >>>>>>> giving hr to heroes
you can ask for some rit sin and derv nerfs too, and people might start actually playing para with more than 10 skills
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>>2560632
>/u/'s unique Para build
para is more of a /y/ class
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>>2560635
no they won't. Para has no role without those skills, unless you are talking about using one to give you speed buffs to solo farm with.
You don't run Para heroes, and likely don't run para as a player either, so stop virtue signaling.
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>>2560584
Whichever pet is cutest is the only valid way to decide
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>>2560652
"para is a class that only exists to play like 3 skills. if you take those away the class is absolutely useless. there is 0 meaningful variety in the bars. we must make this class so good it's basically mandatory"
airtight argument, how could anyone not be sold
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>change most dagger attacks to be adrenaline-based
>add more offhand-counts-as-lead attacks
>reduce assassin's energy regeneration to 3 pips
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>>2560681
again, slapping nerfs is easy
revamping an entire class is hard.
if you just slapped the nerfs you want on
you just removed the entire class's viability.
you can virtue signal that you want "wacky zany non meta builds" all you want but nobody will run them. Nobody will want a para in a group outside of a scheduled guild meme build run.
You're not making suggestions to improve the class.
you just want heavy handed nerfs that make people retire the profession from use entirely.
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>>2560654
ok thanks
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just add limits to how often echoes can trigger
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>>2560584
I rolled with a crocodile.
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ngl the new quest in old ascalon that gives a free superior salvage and id kit per character is legit af
just got 10 of each with some reward gold
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>>2560702
I sincerely believe gradual slight nerfs to all op skills gradually makes more things viable. para is weak in comparison to other classes, who would get nerfed into line
half range caster sin is not very good. even though I like sin, I would rather the status quo over them adding a stupid 10 second duration kd half range spell to shadow arts (and that would at least be fun to play). together as one is too good. even though I like ranger, I want it nerfed
if you only got into parties under threat of playing a single boring build, you were already nonviable and fucked. I played campaigns but I don't play para in groups because the 2 pug accepted builds both blow to play
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>>2560598
5sr mods changed everything, literally essential
necros can use the ritualist or ele mod i guess
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why does deposit all materials still not work?
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>>2560779
unfortunately a lot of profs only have a few viable builds for hard mode.
Para is just in THE tightest corner to work with.
the classes with the most flexibility are pretty much warriors, dervs, monks, and mesmers.
Everything else is basically rigidly tied to 1-2 elites that define their builds. TAO, SoS, ST, BiP, Shadow Form or Shadow Theft does Ele even have anything that's ever in demand?, and of course either HR based or standard Imbagon builds.
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>>2560867
You have zaishen coins in your inventory don't you?
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>>2560897
Thunderclap/Blinding Surge
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This game really needs a global chat
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and other things i heard at work at the retard pen
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>>2560909
I guess. Ele might have "flexibility" in that nothing of theirs is good enough to be meta so people will just accept something that works, unless it's a specialized team like using an obsidian flesh tank build, or an E/Mo bonder.
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>>2560929
Ele used to be meta. Searing Flames from multiple heroes + They're On Fire is OK, for example, but it doesn't work everywhere and is harder to get rolling that just the standard mesmerway. You can solo farm as a Terra/Perma, but Obsidian Flesh is no Shadow Form. You can still spam Infuse Health, but raw power isn't as useful in the age of ST rit.

Ele's one saving grace is Energy Storage. You can "fake" any other caster profession just by spamming lower-powered skills for longer. So while *Ele* builds may be limited, you can be pretty much anything you want.
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>>2560897
>TAO
tao changes a ton depending on how you play it (daggers vs needling vs misc spam, petless)
not as good but expert's dexterity and barrage work
>SoS, ST
rit lord, dwg, spirit's strength, xinraes, maybe sogm
at least
>Shadow Form or Shadow Theft
sf doesn't count or all these open way up, but ap, wota
sin is most meta cucked behind para, and desperately in need of nerfs and changes
>Ele
ether renewal, tons of air magic elites, dual attunement
basically every class has more variety than a couple mandatory skills and everything else not mattering
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>>2560929
Those are the elites recommended in the HR Para party build so I would assume those may be the most minmax'd Elites, with Air being the most optimal.
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>>2560984
It's more that that's what a hero can run without fucking up, Bsurge and Tclap are always beneficial in some way, even if their damage is low the blind/weakness is always useful and tclaps interrupt can actually save against a pulsing aoe that your mesmers were about to let get off but because the ele is just casting for damage and not considering the interrupt they might interrupt that savannah heat you were about to have to tard wrangle the rest of your party out of or hit that res your mesmers were just ignoring.
It's not truly ideal, it's just the most idiot proof Ele builds for heroes.
That's why Esurge gets run, not because Esurge is this super good skill
it's because Esurge requires no active brain behind it, any mouthbreather or even a bot can use it effectively and you can stack multiples of it without running into problems like you do if you were to try running multiple SoS or multiple ST or something like that. Redundancy doesn't matter with an Esurge build, it actually helps.
You can't do the same running multiple panic mesmers or multiple psychic instability.

>>2560976
Before TAO barrage was used sure, but now it's hard to argue in its favor vs the full party benefit of TAO. If you run multiple rangers only 1 will run TAO the others will run glass arrows or something like that.
I never see any rits run rit lord, or xinrae's, I've seen VWK used in farming builds.
SoGM I've only seen specifically when you have a PuG that has multiple rits and ST and SoS are already covered so the 3rd goes SoGM and focuses on communing damage sprits just to not overlap with the ST or SoS.
DWG... I have run that in DOA coordinated builds way back and it was fun but do people use it outside of that?
AP I mostly see used for like, Ele builds, not so much sin builds, I do see WotA and used it myself before I got shadow theft, and in that same vein I've used flashing blades or wastrel's collapse before but ST just kinda overwrites them, any dagger spammer build ST.
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>>2561093
>That's why Esurge gets run, not because Esurge is this super good skill
>it's because Esurge requires no active brain behind it, any mouthbreather or even a bot can use it effectively
esurge is also super good. you see it a ton in gvg run by competent players, as solo mes too
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>>2558394
>>2558449
I've realized this recently, and I think my issue isn't that they're zero sum, it's that they don't interact with the secondaries at all. They're generally all too narrow. Expertise is actually a good example of when it's not. Ranger interfaces with secondary skills in a different way than the primaries. Shit like fast casting largely not having that many non-mesmer skills it even applies to, mysticism not working on any other profession skills.

Also on the zero sum thing, it kinda kills a lot of the potential for the profession to be used as a secondary, which imo defeats one of the coolest parts of gw1 vs other games. If I wanted my class to be in it's own little design lane, I'd play a different game.
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>>2561400
it's decent, but has its drawbacks, namely if it's stacked once you drain all the energy out of a target it doesn't do any damage. I certainly don't play it when I have heroes or multiple other mesmers using it
Instead I'll go illusion, or Instability is pretty fun, maybe Signet of Illusions and be able to pull in both wandering eye and mistrust
it's a good skill but you can probably arrange a human team that if they do use more than 2 mesmers, you wouldn't want to just stack esurges.
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>>2561093
Wota still gets used when you don't want to use cons. If you need specifically ascan, kd immunity, and can't trust enchantments to not get stripped, it's good. It's not as high of highs as theft but it's going to work everywhere.
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>>2561569
In my experience, targets aren't alive if they had all their energy drained. I run esurge myself with 3 esurge heroes and it's maybe not the fastest, but it works fine. Enemy casters get destroyed fast, and it's usually the martials that are a problem, especially those that can aoe. Esurge is usually the only energy denial I bring cause things like mind wrack make it worse. Can always run aneurism if it's a big single target mission to reload their energy.
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>>2561570
yeah I suppose if you're doing content that specifically requires KD immunity AND scan because of frequent blind, then you either have to drop your IAS, or shadow theft, so.. WotA works as your elite and is your IAS itself (not the best one but sufficient for daggers) and can help with energy management. It is a solid elite, but if I don't have to have both KD protection AND scan, then I can drop one of those, and bring in shadow theft and drunken master.
having a shorter CD shadow step and bigger numbers is good.
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>>2561636
if it's a warrior target they're out of energy in 2 casts so the other 2 esurges do 0 damage.
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>>2561652
That's what I mean. Warriors are generally the only ones who aren't either dead or fully shut down after the esurges. I do take a lot of care in choosing targets and almost never pick the warriors. Heroes will typically only esurge my own target (once I've auto attacked them), so it's not as much of a problem in my experience.
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>>2561646
Yeah it's typically like kaineng city where I end up not running theft. Jade brotherhood aren't too bad, but the am fags and afflicted are fucking awful with how much blind, block, cripple, kd, and enchant removal they have. They even have frequent stance removal so drunken master can get fucked sometimes.
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>>2559534
I wonder what they mean with new type of content? Are they adding single explorable zones into existing regions or something? Or Extra Hard Mode?
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>>2559909
Attack skills literally ignore armor.
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>>2562135
Only the bonus damage from the skill ignores armor.
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>>2562175
Strength still is the worst primary attribute by far
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kinda disappointed in SCW he just read his lines off some AI babble their PR team prepared
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are we still on for fow today?
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>>2562325
I'll be there if I can make it.
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>>2562235
ok.
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>>2561674
man I WISH heroes followed my target.
in my experience heroes target what's closest to them not what I'm attacking, even when I'm spamming control space. I have to manually lock targets.
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REMINDER:

4/4 FoW run later today
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>>2562623
meant to say in 3 hours lol
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>>2562607
Not control space, regular wanding. They don't update their target very well unless you land an attack specifically. Spells or shouts don't count
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>>2562727
control space is regular wanding/attacking. Not control skill, control space, to autoattack it
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>>2562316
a LOT of gw3 is gonna be AI babble, so he's just prepping you
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>>2562798
I am not interested in gw3
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>>2562893
okay, but that's what the stream was about
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Planting my seed in some Hoes
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>>2562934
aw shit rare Hoes sighting
>dat chat log though
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>>2562959
hoe'in a cutthroat bzns in Tyria
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>>2562905
SCW bit was about gw1
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wtf happened here
>>2562623
success?
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>>2564258
yeah got nothing good
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>>2564591
what were the lineups, st? emo? n/rt?
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>>2564258
>>2564672
yeah forgot to take a picture

party lineups were:

Group 1:
W/A - Seven weapon stance spear + hammer
A - Shadow Theft dagger spammer
Me/Mo - Lyssa's Aura dom mesmer
Mo - Smite monk running Shield of Judgement

Group 2:
N - Icy veins curse necro
P/W - Either focused anger or soldier's fury spear
R/Rt - TaO bow with splinter weapon
Mo - Zealous Benediction prot monk

Shield of judgement was probably most interesting choice and it did some pretty good work against all the physicals. low party size helped it work better.
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>>2564775
one smite monk can manage a party of 4 in hm fow?
I guess everyone can bring self-heals and play slow
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>>2564807
It was a bit rough in some sections but at 13 divine favor + smiter's boon each smiting spell heals for 84 HP + reversal of damage mitigation can take you pretty far, additionally Shield of Judgement was fantastic physical shutdown. I was spamming Shatter Hex on the melees which helped keep all the bad hexes off while rupting the casters. Mostly our poor low armor assassin kept eating dirt due to all the enchant stripping preventing shroud/SoJ from protecting him from the physicals.

FoW's not difficult which is why I don't really enjoy running it unless we're doing something weird to make it more challenging/interesting.
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>>2564775
Idk how useful it would have been but a dervish using mystic healing and maybe cautery signet would have been neat. Those have infinite range. Not sure what other skills have that quality
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>>2564832
Would this work? Shield goes first along with the rest of the enchants and heart of holy flame for holy damage with shadow form last to cover everything. Defeats enchant strip, empathy and spiteful spirit. No critical agility to keep armor down. Scythe would be furious +5e of enchanting. Still low armor so gets targeted, shield procs and you deal aoe holy damage on auto attacks with scythe.
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>>2565804
Essence bond on sin for infinite energy plus zealot's fire, both under shadow form. Spam reversal of damage for aoe fire damage.
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>>2565804
malicious strike can be swapped for mental block
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>>2566517
you don't get to knock down friends
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>>2566517
lotta loyalty for a henchman monk
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>>2566517
If I take that off your bar will you die?
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>>2566517
>bane(signet)posting in 2026
based
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>>2564258
>success?
not really, a bunch of people got older. that was it.
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Once you reach your mid thirties it's basically one foot in the grave.
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>>2566686
true

factchecked by real krytan loyalists
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>>2566686
>>2566710
Well, yeah, but that's supposed to be good. You're supposed to have a stable niche in your community and multiple children.
All this angst shit about getting old only makes sense for alienated moderns and manchildren. You're not an alienated modern or manchild, are you?
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alienated moderns and manchildren, our response?
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>>2567220
Idk I have a daughter so I cant relate
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>>2567260
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>>2567260
Will you let her join the alliance when she grows up? We need more cute astrology art hoes. Geminis run this fucking shit
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>>2567379
4chan guilds are always dominated by cliquey retards so no
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>>2567508
lol this is the first time I've ever seen anybody type anything about a clique in guild wars gen
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>>2567508
just about everyone i have ever meet in 2 years was pretty chill most just want to play the game
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>>2567618
I want to play the game
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How long do I have to stay in this fucking retarded wasteland with its bad missions in Proph
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>>2567728
From memory I think it's 4 missions that take you to about level 10?
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>>2567728
do people here have melties when Proph is criticized?
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>>2567798
why don't you see for yourself
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>>2567872
I'm waiting with baited breath
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I wish Prophecies was more like the other campaigns and you were level 20 by the time you got to Borlis Pass.
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>>2567798
Everyone's too busy afking in presearing while desperately trying to get accepted by the guild clique in discord
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>>2567618
i can't wait for mysticism staff anon and scythe warrior anon to discover love on the battlefield and finally get married.
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>>2567888
can I get an invite
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>>2567735
shut the FUCK up prophfag you're having a MELTIE!
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today's RA tally is
18 losses 0 wins
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>>2566678
you're not supposed to write your own eulogy
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>>2567902
grim
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>>2567908
hop on so we can sync
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>>2567911
not interested in PVP, just sympathizing with you having a bad day
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>>2567921
are you interested in hot sweaty erp I'm a girl
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>>2567931
YWNBAG
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>>2567943
25 losses 0 wins time to log off
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>>2567948
30 0
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34 losses ONE win
never give up boys
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>>2565804
the main problem with SF is you do like 0 damage, and in our party comp of 4 people only the warrior would be doing serious DPS.

>>2567508
We're pretty chill, I've always been pleasantly surprised at the average player we seem to attract.

>>2567888
I'll sooner pay for teamspeak servers before I set up a discord server

>>2567798
no, people took the "I think new players should start in proph because it has more meaningful progression" and assumed we were an uber diehard gen 1 "proph or gtfo" general.

>>2567890
Post IGN and I'll invite you to guild

>>2568021
have you considered changing your build to counter the dominant enemy team? lol
>ONE win
I think the team that was winning finally hit their daily max RA points and logged off :P
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>>2568021
Congrats on losing your v card at 35
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>>2568027
>I'll sooner pay for teamspeak servers before I set up a discord server

>she hasn't been invited to the secret discord
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Are orders instance wide or just compass range?
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>>2568027
I just know that melties happen when factions gets mentioned
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>>2568028
I'm 100 off r1 glad and that one win counted for nothing since you only start getting rank after the first win
>>2568027
wouldn't holy damage offset the sf cap loss? still it makes the sin useful only for tower of courage / battlefield / forge
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>>2568044
Factions is kino we need more east Asian fantasy
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Factions is the worst campaign by far
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>>2568063
I just heard someone's breath catch and started grinding their teeth
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Factions is so good I only played Factions up until Reforged I only had Factions bought I had 12 characters with almost 4000 hours logged playing Factions only. Look for "perma Shing Jea" on gwguru I came up with that. Factions ftw.
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>>2568068
you're retarded and autistic and possibly a future school shooter in the making, factions is fucking garbage you spend half the time in giga aids slums with no sunlight you must be brazilian or some shit the way it reminds of your favela home
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>>2568074
>Master forgive me, but I'll have to go all out... Just this once
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>>2568078
>>2568074
samefag
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Factions and Nightfalls setting were way more interesting than what came before or after

Too bad no one bought Nightfall since it was full of black people in fantasy North Africa
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nightfall looks like arizona
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even aborted and unfinished, Guild Wars Beyond is the best campaign
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>>2568092
Nightfall looks much nicer than Arizona which is a depressing place to be irl

Also looks nothing like the parts of Arizona I've been to
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>>2568092
Atlanta is Atlantis
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I ran the numbers the other day on zaishen dummies and a 7WS scythe on full pcons will outDPS even TAO needling shot. Warrior scythe autist was right, I kneel.
>>2568097
Futurama reference?!?
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^ bait aside the mysticism staff is stupid as shit you will either run resto or prot so a 40/20/20 mysticism is useless
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>>2568100
No it's the latest unironic WEWUZ cult thing American blacks are into.
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>>2568133
I am 24 and suffer from erectile dysfunction
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>>2568133
Oh also I'm gay and my dick is smell
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>>2568141
Stfu my affliction is not a joke you can exploit for your entertainment
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>>2568141
*small
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>>2568127
you say that until you are hitting 109s in uw showing your dervish superiority
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Worth it leveling a Paragon y/n
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>negro defense league suddenly activates
lol
lmao even
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>>2568165
Ehhh I don't like em
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>>2568133
AYO Hol up
yo be sayin Atlantis be Wakanda an sheit?
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>>2568156
With imbue health? I'm going to spend time getting the anniversary staff to use one skill? Even a prot necro is better.
>>2568147
3 inches is literally the average penis size.
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>>2568175
Yeah in small penis land maybe
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>>2568184
In the United States of America
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I don't even think 3 inches is average in North Korea or India which I thought had the smallest dicks on the planet
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>>2568199
>I don't even think
No, you don't
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>>2568175
no we ran uw a few weeks ago was just hitting the undead guys with it got some 109s
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>guys this is busted
>look inside
>HoHF vs undead
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>>2568316
how autistic are you when you cant take a joke
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>>2505540
QUESTION: I am thinking of coming back and giving GW1 a second shot. What is the audiovisually coolest class? As in animations, VFX, etc. Ritualist with the static blue ghost summons?
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>>2568445
Nothing in this game is very flashy, might i suggest something like fortnight for your adhd zoomer faggot ass
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Are we being raided by /gw2g/ or something? What's with the shit ass trolling?

>>2568445
Ritualists are erotically bendy, and paragons have those big yellow wings.
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>>2568511
>zesty golden wangs
ftfy
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>>2568445
assassin for wild flailing and tingtingtingting
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>>2568445
assassin critical hit sounds are fun. I like the flips a lot. Dervish is also very good animations. IMO most casters aren't very flashy by 2026 standards. Minion master Necro is the sole exception, cause it's very cool to have the army of minions.
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>>2568529
That's racist
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>>2568445
necro is cool, derv too
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>>2568074
how bro felt typing that
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they call me the hexraper the way i'm hexraping these noobs
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Why is there suddenly an annoying faggot in our thread? This used to be nice and tranquil
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>>2569988
someone may have stirred some shit in the gw2 general after the announcement
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https://youtu.be/_2Dg_tsjHOA
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>>2570031
gw2 autists are seething that their furry game is getting cancelled so they come here to cope
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>>2570373
GUILD WARS IS RIGHTFUL FURRY CLAY
WE WILL NOT FORGIVE THIS BETRAYAL
NO CHARR NO BUY
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>>2569988
meds schizo
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>>2570987
>Newfag invoked "meds schizo!"
>...It has no effect.
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>>2571030
Reminder you lost and got raped
>>2535146
>>2535315
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>>2571175
>newfag makes up a pretend competition in his head
sasuga
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>>2570987
>>2571030
>>2571175
>>2571189
guild wars one?
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TODAY'S ZM (HELL'S PRECIPICE) STARTS IN 30 MINUTES
BE THERE OR YOU ARE GAY AND BLACK (nigger) ALSO!!!
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I recovered an old account that I thought lost by complete chance
Now I have 7 free slots and a random lvl1 monk wearing starter armor sitting in post-searing Ascalon with an empty inventory
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>>2574860
you can hit post searing without leveling once?
usually I think of it as being level 3
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>>2574860
nearly everyone who recovers an old account finds it wipe clean by RMTers so you're not alone
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>>2575217
how do they steal accounts? forum leak?
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Is there a group leveling/going through any campaign right now?
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>>2575404
Not right now but our next Nightfall group should be starting within a month, at a rough guess.
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deep saturday?
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drain delusions seems like really good e-management for a mome but mesmer hexes are just too strong to waste like that

maybe i'll run a tease resto
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>>2575412
paragons only
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>>2575825
We did that last time
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>>2575840
PARAGONS ONLY
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About halfway through Factions, its so fucking good
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>>2576215
Did you get to Tahnakkai Temple yet?
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>>2576220
No
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>>2576233
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>>2576233
Be advised.....
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boy
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>>2575840
fine assassins only then, just continue where the last program left off
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>prophecies
Slow bland boring shit

>factions
Amazing

>nightfall
Fantastic

>eotn
Crap
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>>2576620
>Prophecies
decent baseline but goes SO SLOW

>Factions
Escort Missions: the Campaign

>Nightfall
would be good without the specific required heroes and rep grind requirements

>EotN
solves these glaring errors and has a non linear narrative, why do we hate it?
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Repeat after me. Say it loud and say it proud.

I...
WANT...
NIGHTFALL...
BEYOND...!!
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>>2576752
the rep grind requirements of eotn are infinitely worse than nightfalls
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>>2576782
I actually want new regions but I don't trust current Arenanet to not further fuck up lore
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>>2576791
>requirements
but you're never required to have a specific rep to get through EotN's content, it's purely for fueling optional PVE only skills and titles
Rep level 5 is practically given for doing the campaign and a couple of dungeons or vanquishes casually.
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>>2576752
le non linear is automatically good meme
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>>2576752
>non linear narrative
The way it infects my quest log with incurable quest AIDS is one of the reasons I dislike it.
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>uhm grinding rep in my grinding game is BAD actually, because...because it just is ok!!!!
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>>2577060
it's not a grinding game
it's a pvp game
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>>2576979
>incurable
just.. complete the quests
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>>2577060
The whole appeal of Guild Wars prior to EotN is that it WASN'T a grinding game, retard.
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>>2576947
in guild wars eye of the north you can go to any of 15 identical dungeons over and over again
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prophecies has the best level design
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>>2577176
how so? I think Factions has the worst due to its locked gates everywhere. I like Proph being open but I'm not 100% on it being "the best". Nightfall.. outside of the Desolation I like it.
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>>2576864
k have fun getting r5 rep 4 times on 10 characters
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>>2577276
I have on at least 7, without ever specifically grinding for rep, it was just doing the quests and zquests
and on the 3 characters that have not gotten that rep yet, only 1 has actually completed EotN, and I just rushed through the primary quests in 1 afternoon to get a droknar's key to complete a 40/40 set and she has 1 level 4, 1 level 3 almost level 4, and 2 5's. it won't be hard at all and won't really require grinding it'll just require me actually playing that character and doing a dungeon or a vanquish.
I never found rep "requirements" barring me from doing any of the content. Nightfall on the other hand really does have rep gating just to progress through the primary story.
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>>2575404
We'll be running a NF prog either at end of this month or early July, more details next thread.

>>2575434
I'm busy on Saturday, but if someone else wants to host/run it go for it

>>2576752
I actually like EotN, but I utterly despise the damage EotN PvE skills did to the game, EotN story while mildly interesting, works better as a single player campaign, playing through it with other players isn't very fun (because it's too easy, even if you nerf yourself).

>>2576782
>>2576836
Given 2weeks rehired Linsey Murdock who did a lot of the NF/EotN/Bonus pack/GW beyond story stuff I actually think an NF beyond is within reason... but if anet's not retarded they should do an Orr expansion in both games as a sort of teaser lead in to GW3, that would make the most sense.
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>>2577307
>I actually think an NF beyond is within reason
We're gong to get roguelite dungeons and you're going to like it.
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Target Date for Global Mobile Launch – June 24th, 2026

https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Feedback:Game_updates/20260610
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>>2577315
Okay hold on wait let me cook
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>>2577315
I would be OK with this.
>Start off solo with no skills
>Can meet skill trainers with limited selections or get random quests that reward skills
>Unlock random henches and heroes as you progress
>Can cap elites from bosses you defeat
>Eventually you get up to 8 party size with a random assortment of heroes and skills unlocked
>Can save progress every 5 floors for multiple-session dungeon delves
>If you reach 60% DP, end of rine
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>>2577315
>>2577331
>Start run with just primary profession+weapon type
>Level up and gain attributes per floor set
>Some choice of secondaries
>Can gain random skills, runes, weapon mods as you go
>Spend a currency you gain throughout runs to unlock skills or mods that can appear
>Passives like % chance to reset CDs, or an effect that makes the next spell do 3x but have 3x the CD
>Maybe a thing to see what mobs would be in the incoming floors so you can prepare
>Maybe restrictions like flux but PvE, eg buff if not running an elite, bonus if not chaining skills of the same attribute, etc
Mite b cool?
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>>2577345
All this sounds awful I hope you die
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>>2577235
There's all kinds of different biomes: post apo mad max, hyperborean mountains, hills and shit in Kryta to swamps in Kryta to the beach also in Kryta, the desert with all kinds of Amalek architecture, then some freak ass desert crystal situation, weird ass jungle, back to snow white Agartha, and finally the evil ass nigger coal island. Proph has it all. Factions? Kowloon, then a valley, then a dark valley, then a jade valley and back to Kowloon. Nightfall? Desert 1, then Desert 2, Desert: Worm and evil occult black hole.
>>2577307
Sunday then?
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>>2577345
sounds ok except
>Unlock random henches and heroes as you progress
they should be forcing playing with others and incentives to play pvp above all IN MY HUMBLE OPINION!!!
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>>2577367
>invade other people's dungeons
we guild souls now
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>>2577371
what if you could invade other guild halls
it could be an 8v8 format
we could call it guild vs guild or something
thoughts??
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>>2577307
To be fair I don't like running story content with other players in any campaign at least not the first time I do it or the first time after a long time and I kinda forget what the story was doing.
Hard to get into the story when everyone wants to skip cutscenes.
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>>2577367
I think what would be neat in this theoretical situation is if the game queues like Vizunah and UW so that every dungeon level you get a shuffle of whomever is playing at the moment thrown into a party. They can just fill in with HA/GH henchies if no one is queued.
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>>2577379
Easy, just don't give into peer pressure to skip cutscenes.
Plus, we actually don't skip the cutscenes in our prog runs.
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Just had a cool zm run infuse ele and three dervs we were trying to go as fast as possible was fun
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>>2577379
Like other commenter mentioned, we don't ever skip cutscenes, sometimes I can get funny screenshots out of them, but mostly I'm of the same opinion that I don't want a potential new player experience to be us rushing through the story as fast as possible skipping all the cutscenes. Same reason I don't really like doing speedrun strats in dungeons, don't really want people's first experience with DoA/Deep/FoW is us trying to do the dungeon as fast as possible not even stopping for loot.

>>2577357
Can't, busy for a lot of this weekend, maybe we can do something next weekend but wouldn't hold your breath.
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>>2577357
okay I can see it, lots of variety.
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>>2577486
>>2577384
that's actually pretty good, though to be fair I do skip scenes if I'm familiar with the story but if it's been a year or two I want to watch them.
and I guess that is pretty based to commit to just vanquishing the content. I prefer it that way myself, I kinda hate speed runs, but I'll do them because the groups tend to know what they're doing at least and don't wipe.
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don't like nightfall personally theres too many black people in it, not racist just don't like them
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>>2577496
See that's the funny part, they don't lol.

We run random builds, sometimes without consets, and we commit to a steady full clear, and we finish faster and more consistently than almost any pug run who try to do speedrun strats and rush the dungeon as fast as possible.

The problem is a lot of pugs have either done speedruns, or seen speedrun strats, so they attempt to replicate those strats in normal pug groups without understanding why people do them, or how they work, or they don't explain what they are doing to new players in the group. The best example of this is DoA foundry of failed teams, in room 3 the popular pug strat is to run to the far corner of the room, but there is literally 0 benefit to doing this and it only works in extremely specific group comps, yet every group does it anyway without understanding why they are doing it (because they saw another group do it) so as a result room 3 has an extremely high wipe rate.
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I like going fast
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>>2577292
uhh so why does that sound like way more work than getting r7 sunspear
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>>2577573
only if you're doing it with the explicit purpose of grinding rep
which I don't do.
I just run the content, and the rep levels come naturally. Because I'm never blocked by an NPC saying "reach R5 of Deldrimor Rep to continue"
Nightfall that actually happens and you're stuck with only 2 ways out of it... grind.. or.. well, vanquish which is still grinding.
About the only thing I'll do when it comes to EotN rep is maybe look at when northern rep bonus is coming up and keep some zquests of eotn content in my log until that week to do them since it makes it all go faster but reaching r5 doesn't even take that that's more for going for r10 for just.. I dunno eventual GWAMM progression that I may never finish but whatever.
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>>2577378
it'll never get a sequel
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>>2576791
there are no rep requirements of any kind in eotn you dishonest elonian monkey
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>>2561636
The real elite on a pve esurge bar is mistrust. That skill is retarded. And to think that it's been nerfed. It used to do 35ish% more damage.

>>2560960
Shitter flames used to do more damage, and that's before the mesmer power creep. At NF launch Searing Flooms was the gold standard pve pug ele build. Reasonably easy to cap, people liked eles, and mesmers were still the hard CC class that didn't do anything besides backfiring monks and wastrels worrying prophecies bosses.

>>2560929
E/Mo is absurd in 99% of general pve if you have cons up. Without cons it's not really worth doing a full bonder build. E/Mo prot spam is still very good because spirit bond is a ridiculous skill gaited by the high cost. Take away the cost restriction and you can brainlessly spam it on multiple people and make them largely unkillable.

With consumables you can run prot bond, ether renewal, burning speed, spirit bond, and infuse. That gives you 3 optional slots. Ebon escape is an incredibly useful skill. No aftercast delay, heals, and mobility all in one. If there's someone in your team willing to hold their W key you can use it to keep up between fights while staying full on energy. In fights you can use it for repositioning, healing, and generating surplus energy because of the lack of aftercast delay. Dwarven stability is a very strong option for an optional in many areas (southern shiverpeaks). Strength of honor, life attunement (lowman), balth spirit, auar of restoration, etc depending on how much additional support/party size or self covers you need are all valid options.

Pop a candy corn with cons and you reach the 5 energy return/enchant breakpoint on ER, so you can gain 25-30 energy per spell easily. A decent E/Mo can solo backline like 95% of the game, even through strong enchantment removal. 12+4 ES, 11 prot, and 6 splash for smite for SoH. With corn+egg you can run 11+4 ES, 10 prot and 10 smite, or keep running with 12-11-6 or 12-10-8 to be weakness immune on ether.
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>>2578308
I know it's good I just don't find it fun to play
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>>2575434
>deep saturday?
I've never actually completed it before, I'll join if schedule allows. Just post a time and class/skills/gear you're looking for I guess.
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>>2578490
>class/skills/gear
Whatever you find fun.
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>>2578494
Neat, might bring the warrior or a ranger then. Might have to grab some skills, haven't touched the ranger in nearly 20 years.
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>we could have gotten giraffe centaurs in Elona Beyond
it's not fair
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https://strawpoll.com/XOgOVzEL4n3
please tick if you are willing to join a deep run either on Saturday or Sunday this weekend (or both)
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>>2578285
armor and pve skills are the whole point of eotn, ass
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>>2579186
not voting, but I will be there either day if I am free
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Returning player here, any reason not to make a reforged character? You get more gold (though not sure how much that matters iirc you never got much pure gold) but with all the buffs the game is probably also easier
Also are birthday vouchers worth anything, can you pull something rare from 6-7yr ones?
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>>2579444
Reforged is a beta, but there really isn't anything wrong with it.
You have a very low chance of pulling something valuable from year 6 or year 7 presents. Everything else is trash.
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>>2579444
>>2579488
damn anons got a full house
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>>2579444
you can convert existing characters to reforged mode, yes its worth doing because veteran chuds got cancelled (and rightfully so)
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dont care much for nightfall
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>>2579696
Take out the forced title track quests and mandatory heroes and it would be less sucky.
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>>2579703
Those are fine I just don't like all the black people
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I like all the campaigns for different reasons :3
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>>2579696
I like factions because I like Asian women
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>>2579709
just make your nightfall character as white as possible and have him lord over his slaves
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>>2580150
That's wrong
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>>2580710
it is the most right thing
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Do we know if c*ntent cr*ators will organize another "Return to gw" event for Faction like they did with Prophecy last year?
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>>2581283
They did it last year because of reforgeds release why would they do it again

Retard
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>>2581394
Nah they did it long before reforged was a thing, DUMMY
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25min urgoz with a pug
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ive run out of worthwhile things to do in this game
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>>2581665
"new type of content" will fix this
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>>2581665
make a new character
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>>2578705
i would kill that thing in self-defense in a heartbeat
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>>2579186
Leader here, I put down won't be there either day so I don't sway the vote on something I might not be able to participate in, but depending on what time I get home on Sunday there might be a chance I can join don't hold out for me though.

Either way be sure to post screenshot if it happens!

>>2579444
As always if you're interested in joining the guild post your IGN in thread and we'll toss you an invite.
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I have a question
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>>2583961
I'm going to steal it.
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>>2583967
What is currently the point of having a perma pre if the charr slot machine of purples (charrslaying mod or the max 18% HCT/HSR) has been completely supplanted by max golds with inscriptions? Serious question since I just dinged and wonder if it's worth keeping it in pre
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https://youtu.be/j6VjPvQobvg
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>>2583991
It's a unique zone with it's own charm and separation from the rest of the game.
Sometimes you just want to go adventure through the catacombs again, revisit Barradin's Estate, stroll through Lakeside County with Gwen skipping behind you, etc.
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>>2584035
>It's a unique zone with it's own charm and separation from the rest of the game.
I would argue this is less and less the case given the recent changes
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>>2583991
It's just that people like the aesthetics of it and the mostly solo experience. I don't care to have a perma pre cause to me it was just farming the northlands and now the new dungeon with the same static skillsets.
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>>2584081
id say its more so
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>>2583991
I don’t think the point of a perma pre was to farm purples from charr
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>>2584225
>restrictions make an area limited and different from the rest
>remove and/or relax restrictions
>somehow this makes the area even more limited and different from the rest
Does not compute.
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>>2584950
more stuff to do, busta
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>>2585495
The stuff is just typical post searing things.
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>>2582818
Info on the Saturday run?
When and how are we meeting, organizing, etc.
Please also give the time zone, I'm on PST so I might need to wake up early to join you guys.
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>>2588022
3PM EST like last time, problem is we only have 3 votes for Saturday. We could do it with 6 people or so but we'd have to minmax it: derv, SS, ST, UA, TaO, and maybe a mes chaining esurge
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>>2588327
I'm not too good at the game, if you can post the builds, I can grab the necessary skills real quick.
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>>2588357
OgcSc5OTOMMMHMoG3lFH0kj1
can you do this? we can always take a rain check until next weekend to get a full house although trying a lowman deep sounds fun
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>>2588415
My warrior is the only character that has some progress in EOTN, unfortunately.
Yeah, a rain check is good too, I can work on grabbing the stuff that's needed meanwhile.
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>>2588430
you can run whatever you feel like if we have a full party
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newfag here, do i need to do all the campaign with only one character to get HoM points or i can do it with different character from each campaign? i'm playing dervish rn
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>>2588506
I think as long as you finish the whole campaign on the same character (i.e not doing the first half of a campaign's mission on a character and the second half on another), you can complete the 3 campaigns on 3 different characters and it will count for your whole account
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>>2588582
all right, thanks. i can do it with dervish, right? or do i need to start over with more resilient class?
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>>2588638
dervish is the most resilient prof
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>>2588638
>do i need to start over with more resilient class?
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>>2588440
just fill in with heroes and let the guy run whaetver he wants
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>>2588506
fuck gw2
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>>2588958
for real for real
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>>2588506
as long as you make it to eotn and dedicate it, you can get the stuff on any character and they'll be pooled
I have vabbian armor on one, obsidian on another, and they both show up on the website
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Newbab here
Does paragon get any more fun?
I felt like I was contributing so little with my spear that I decided to ditch it entirely and don the staff instead so I can spam shouts and arias
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>>2589583
The "meta" of paragons is comprised of exactly one build that is an ass ache to play and is just spamming the same overpowered PvE-only skills over and over.
Thankfully, you're not playing for meta and can actually have fun. Yes, spear mastery is a bit lackluster, ESPECIALLY with only Nightfall skills. They were afraid that a ranged one-hand weapon would be too powerful probably. Once you have access to Eye of the North skills and the Alliance rep skill, suddenly it doesn't feel quite so crap and you have much better direct damage options.
Yes, the main gimmick of the paragon is a shout-based buff bot. They're actually really, really good at it and super powerful, but the thing about paragons is that their usefulness only increases exponentially with how many other paragons you have in your party due to the way their skills work.

How far into the campaign and what secondary profession do you have? You have loads of armor so there's nothing stopping you from going Warrior secondary and grabbing a sword/axe/hammer.
When we did our paragon-only Nightfall prog last year, our two best performers were a P/E sword/shield Starburst spiker and a P/R beastmaster.
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I can't even get hits when I want to buy lockpicks for plat anymore, I get offers for ecto instead which would be a ripoff at the price ecto is now. Everyone's bank is probably full of plat that basically can't be spent
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>>2589983
I'm poor.
How do I get plat? It'd be nice if I could just buy all the skills the skill trainers have and be able outfit all of my heroes with gear instead of sharing them between characters.
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>>2590193
3 methods:

1) weekly nicholas the traveler gift, every week he appears in a new location asking for a monster trophy to exchange for a gift, you can get up to 5 gifts per week and sell them in kamadan for 2e each.

2) Daily zaishen quests. If you ever wanted to play with other people or just find stuff to do these are great, there's zaishen bounty which is just kill a boss enemy somewhere, vanquish which is a full area vanquish, and mission which is do a mission with bonus objectives. Good source of income 1 gold zcoin (500 copper coins) is worth 7e

3) Farming underworld, due to how inflated ecto is it's honestly probably worth it to just do some UW runs or farms, a single ecto is worth 20k~
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>>2590193
You don't need to outfit your heroes with expensive gear. The skills are 90% of what matters.
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>>2589748
I'm P/W, I thought about doing an angelic melee fighter but I ended up not liking the animations very much so I ditched the idea for the moment.
I'm lvl16 and just past the Consulate mission, I lost Koss and unlocked the Sanctuary thing.
I was sick of deserts so I thought I may as well visit the other continents, I got to Tyria and I did a couple of missions there.
Then I chanced a meeting with a Mesmer in Lion's Arch that offered running to Ascalon in chat so I said why the fuck not, but we ended up fighting our way through instead because apparently you can't actually run as a Mesmer.
I thought I was supposed to pay him for the trip but he gave me money instead and told me to come with him.
I thought I was going to get molested but he told me to buy armor at the boreal station and to come with him to do the althea quest so now I have the hot ghost woman as a hero too.
I'm kinda torn between continuing in Tyria or visiting the Faction area now because I really do not like Nightfall so far, it's been kinda samey and boring with a ton of back-and-forth within the same few maps so I'm just gonna take a break from it I think.
Anyway this is my build. I'm just using my arias to heal and give energy, i'm alternating bewteen my command shouts to protect the party with a 100% uptime, I'm ditching conditions with the signets I captured during the Consulate and I'm going fast with my last shout from Yohlon Haven.
I felt like i was not contributing to anything with my spear so I just ditched it, freed my skill slots from spear attacks to take more supports, and equipped a staff instead since I was already doing no damage anyway.
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>>2590234
Ah, good point. I was thinking of nearly 20 years ago when martial heroes were still needed. I was dragging weapons between different character's heroes, and since I couldn't afford to equip all the heroes across all heroes I just had them all share 1 set of equipment to make keeping track of things easier.

>>2590213
Got it, will check those out. Thanks.
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>>2590240
As you've experienced today, taking a foreigner into Prophecies isn't a good way to experience the campaign. It's a long run back to Ascalon and you can't visit pre-Searing.
It's very slightly better in Factions because it's easier to run back and there's no pre-Searing equivalent.
Now is a good opportunity to make new characters since you're tired of your paragon. Prophecies is a slower campaign with very varied environments. Factions is a faster ramp up than even Nightfall.
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>>2590253
>taking a foreigner into Prophecies isn't a good way to experience the campaign
I dunno, I enjoyed it, that Mes person was really cool, we got to have fun in the chat and the stupidly long trip was a neat change of scenery. I got to visit like 3 completely different biomes in an hour or so, compared to NF where I've had a choice of "brown desert biome" or "brown swamp biome" in all of my playtime there.
If I make another character, will the heroes I have already unlocked on my paragon be available or do I have to recruit them all over again?
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>>2590240
Not going to say you cannot play such a way if you want to, but generally, no one really like splaying support for NPCs. It;s fun to support a real time, but heroes are dumb as bricks.
If you want to continue on with your paragon with spears and still do some support, this is how I might build given where you are. Focus on Spear Mastery and Leadership, put a few points in either Command or Motivation (or Tactics) based on what utilities you want.

>>2590294
Heroes are recruited per character but skill unlocks for them are account-wide. That's why it's nice to have more characters - you get tons of free skill unlocks naturally by playing them.
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>>2590193
honestly I've just been building up plat because I don't need to really buy things for plat anymore except for things like lockpicks, so it just accumulates as I do content, zquests, vanquishes, dungeons, merching drops.
I'm not even really making significant money as I don't have the patience to spam kamadan for trades, I go in there, make an offer, and if no hits in 5 min I give up and do something else
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>>2590193
you dont need to buy all the skills for starters
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>>2590294
We as an alliance are going to be playing the Nightfall campaign start to finish with new characters later this month.
It'll be a good time as playing with a group of real people is always more fun than NPCs. Of course, the caveat is that we go at a rate of about 2 missions a week.
Might be a good opportunity to make a new character and play along with us.
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DEEP TIME GET ON
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>>2590347
I'm not sure I want to do Istan again so soon. I hated it.

>>2590304
I don't like SPEARS
I care not about SPEARS
I shan't be playing SPEARS
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ATTENTION NAGAS

Only four showed up for THE DEEP today, and two of them had never done it before.

Kanaxai ZB is August 1st. I recommend that we try to calendar in a run after that for these people who have never done it before.

Thank you for your attention.
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>>2590428
ded
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>>2590436
We're going to at least do a trial run with just those of us who arrived, so log in if you want to come.
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>>2589983
that's funny because pick traders do actively need the plat back to spend. every trade of 100/80 only nets them 4k (like 1/5 an ecto), they need to keep 96k on hand to restock. the only way to consistently transact in ecto is to scam people on exchange rate or sell at such volume that the person's rich enough to eat the fees
>>2590294
as a paragon you get 0 armor drops 0 weapon drops 0 skill quests and 0 skill trainers
it's like playing as just a nerfed warrior, I think there's 1 new party wide shout every 10 missions
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Well, I thought we were going to fail miserably, but I managed to guide everyone through a successful (NM) Deep run. Congrats everyone!
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>>2591007
fuck u kanaxai
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>>2591007
That went surprisingly well, despite lots of hero shenanigans
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>>2590809
yeah I dunno man I was wtb and got whispers for stacks for ectos or armbraces instead.
like sure, I could do that but economics wise it makes more sense to buy for plat cause I am getting close to maxing out my bank, but with ecto prices the way they are if I invest in ectos now they stand chance to lose value, it's hard to tell if ecto prices are peaking or if they'll continue to go up. But at 5 ecto per 100k it just doesn't seem like a good buy.
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>>2591201
I didn't say you were lying, just that it was funny
also I don't get it, if you're wtb picks and you think ecto are overvalued you should be buying for ecto to drain your stash at plat equivalent. it's like buying plat with ecto, except you don't max out your bank
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>>2591354
nah, you want to buy ecto when their value is low, and stash for later, eventually you'll need plat or use the ecto to buy other things. when ecto is high you don't want to be buying it, you want to be trading what you have for things like weapons, mods, etc, cause the price in ectos will go down.... sometimes. People sometimes cling to a value in ectos for an item even if those ectos are way higher priced. So trading in this game is ultimately pozzed.
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ecto selling for 16k DAMN
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>>2591507
shid I bought it at 21k
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>>2590428
fuckers manage to pick the other day I definitely can't make

>>2590397
worst case can always join us late into the prog if we have a spot oepn, 4 player party size of early campaigns can be awkward sometimes.


Regarding the lockpicks, we seem to have a shitload of ally faction right now, if people are wanting I can try to flip an outpost to us again.
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>>2592490
>if people are wanting I can try to flip an outpost to us again.
(HOES) will continue to provide ally faction for at least another week (title grind will be done in about that time). Let me know if you need me to grind longer.
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>>2589400
>dedicate it
what does this mean exactly?
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>>2592805
go to the Eye of the North location, in the back room (the Hall of Monuments), put up a tapestry in front of one of the shrines and then you can interact with the shrine and display things on it, Valor for Weapons (Destroyer, Tormented, or Oppressors), Resilience for Armor (any Elite Armor set, needs to be 1 full set doesn't need a helmet though.. but no mix n match), Fellowship for Heroes (they need to have an unlockable hero armor from various miniquests or end game zones), and Devotion for minipets, any minipet can be dedicated but only to one account, if you buy a minipet that's already been dedicated you can't dedicate it in your HoM
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>>2592831
ohhh oooohh okay I think i get it now. so do i need to play all eye of the north main quest or all campaign to unlock tapestry?
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>>2589583
When you begin roleplaying the profession as a commander, ordering your group and telling them what to do, like a traditional cRPG or a single player MMO-like
>>2589748
>exactly one build that is an ass ache to play
HR is unfun because you constantly stress over keeping it up ;) and that's why you run the OTHER big meta easier-to-play build >>2560557
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>>2592876
>HR is unfun because you constantly stress over keeping it up ;)
you just hit burning refrain on recharge
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>>2592863
you get to the "eye of the north" outpost within 10 minutes of starting the expansion, but there are 5 different ways to dedicate (weapons, armor, titles, hero armor, minipets) and to start out you only get the titles one + 1 spare you can pick
the last 3 get unlocked as you beat eotn
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>>2592998
>>2592863
and if you want you can take new characters to the eye of the north to get extra tapestries (they're tradable) before doing the questlines.
the questlines are easy enough on normal, but you might be busy getting stuff on other campaigns first, so that's an alternative.
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If daggerspamming is so good, why aren't more people using it on their heroes?
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>>2593219
heroes are retards at using combos and mega retards at using melee
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>>2592998
>>2593045
yeah okay i'll probably take new character there. i'm confused because it's a bit overwhelming desu because i got bombarded by quest lines that will multiply into dozens of other quest lines. like i want to do this asura quest, but then i kinda give up yesterday because i got overwhelmed. i ended up doing this vlox something dungeon and got wipe to 60% loss on lv 2 like bro how am i supposed to beat this crazy ass dungeon to progress.
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>>2593219
>>2593227
Melee hero ai rework would genuinely change up team builds immensely
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>>2593383
six dwayna dervs, two melandru dervs
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>>2590428
>>2591007
damn I thought we postponed and went to sleep instead, gz
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>>2592805
You should really read this if you're going to try to go for HoM points: https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Guide_to_earning_Hall_of_Monuments_rewards

>>2593327
You don't have to actually finish the dungeon, just go far enough to find the portal to the next zone you're going to.
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I'm gonna say it
This is the comfiest mission outpost
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>>2594070
No, that's The Frost Gate.
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I have finally tried the moddok corsair whirling farm, the takeaways
>way easier than tower of courage or mantis farms
>a lot of runes even without favour
>chance to drop a q8 colossal scimitar
>fun to execute
>average run takes about 50 seconds
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does radiation field cause scatter?
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>>2594198
just tested, doesn't seem so
there's just better options which aren't such a fucking energy hog
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>>2594212
name a few
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>>2594256
Wastrel's Worry, Ancestor's Visage, Mystic Twister
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>>2594256
Not anon you are replying to, but whats your skill bar and are you able to change secondary profession?
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>>2594266
>>2594270
I was messing around with the corsair farm, no need for sanctuary if you juke the archers at the beginning, once you haste back to the ball blind the melees and run radiation field, they blow up instantly mixed with whirling
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>>2594284
R/A is pretty restrictive in options sadly, can't even use whirlwind attack. On your build throw dirt and radiation field seem like only things we can swap around.

You could put LoD on your bar for a cheap 80 damage AoE

you could also equip a life stealing scythe and use ebon battle standard of honor to try and cleave several down

depending how tightly you can group them you could try to run some daggers so you can use Golden Lotus + Golden Phoenix strike for some amounts of targetted AoE

Another option would be to use Apply Poison and use a scythe to AoE apply it

Rad field might be your best bet though, if you bring a high energy set or a staff can probably afford to spam it twice once for each group.
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>>2594324
Did some 20 runs now, I tried LoD first and it was fine but the rad field degen is unbeatable No need for two casts the whole ball dies within the first cast and you really need the +10 pierce shield to tank otherwise you can't eat all the packets, throw dirt mitigates some melee damage but could be swapped if you have any ideas lmk
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>>2594337
Unseen Fury perhaps
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>>2594355
I ended up going with troll unguent, pretty much guaranteed run even if you get lousy rng with a huge spike, can even eat a net on HM and still pull it off easily
the problem with blind either on dirt or fury is that it's pretty random what kinda ball you end up with, if you accidentally blind the archers your whirling won't trigger
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expertise 12 + 1 + 3
shadow arts 12
one hand +5e 20% ench (optional anniversary sword to finish off the two stragglers quickly)
shield +30 +10 ar piercing
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>>2594362
maybe "You Are All Weaklings!" instead
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>>2594367
I'll drop dstab see if it could work
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>>2594367
>>2594370
ended up going with lod, it speeds up the run somewhat
the timing is still comfortable without dstab
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I hate this game
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>>2594560
I wish golds always had maxed mods.
getting off by 1's sucks because nobody wants to buy them, you have to tank your price to less than half.. for 1% off.
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>>2594560
11k hours and this is the best i have gotten only 1 perfect
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>>2593327
don't worry about eotn or hom for a while. by the time you get enough shit worth dedicating, it'll be easier
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Spent all my gold buying formerly pricey runes that have collapsed now
S-surely the price will go back up eventually
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>>2594355
unseen won't work cause it'll cancel whirling defense which is his primary damage dealing method.
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If I use an everlasting tonic, can I sell it afterward or does it bind to the account after using it?
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>>2595161
you can pass that shit around like a peace pipe if you want to dude
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I NEED A THOUSAND FUCKING POINTS TO REACH SUNSPEAR GENERAL AND CONTINUE THE MAIN QUEST
HOW THE FUCK DO I GET A THOUSAND FUCKING SUNSPEAR POINTS?
DO I REALLY NEED TO MINDLESSLY FARM HUNDREDS OF MOBS IN WORTHLESS AREAS?
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>>2595689
It sucks, but you can just farm the bugs in Arkjok Ward right outside of Yohlon Haven and it takes like 20 minutes to get a thousand points.
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>>2595689
why come the quests were good enough for me to get to 7
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>>2595689
lmao Nightfall strikes again
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>>2595689
shouldnt have said the n word in they head
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what the FUCK
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>>2597014
SELL SELL SELL
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Is saving all the exp from early quest rewards to redeem everything at a later level still important in pre?
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>>2598919
kind of.
Level 16 is pretty bad for grinding, so you're either stuck with several days of the 1000 xp per day quests to reach the new breakpoint for enemy levels to grind, or you save all your quests until level 16 and then turn in and get most of the way through.
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>>2598919
It basically just lets you skip one level in your grind, usually 16 to 17. If it's a perma-pre character, I personally never finish any quests, because having access to any conditional quest-only spawns (like Bandit raid mob, Ben Wolfson etc.) is far more interesting and fun than saving a bit of time. Once you hit 20 the saved time doesn't matter at all anyway, so I'd rather just have the quests.

If you're just doing LDoA and leaving for post, just pop them all at level 16.
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anyone down to play some guild war or nah
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>>2600365
nah
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>>2600404
dam cuh
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>favor up
>no droppies from three different farms on different characters
chat explain this
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I have never played GW1/Reforged ever in my stinky life. What would you say to this potentially new player?
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>>2600812
it's pretty fun
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>>2600812
Don't follow any guides or run meta shit that redditors tells you to run. Just play the game, have fun, experiment with builds, and ask if you need help understanding something.
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>>2600812
experiment and hf
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>>2600812
dont bother with titles unless ur gay
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>>2601240
true
>>2600812
some people spend 10+ hours in the tutorial zone doing mindless bullshit and washing out for a title that doesn't do anything in a game they never play again
gw has a fun story mode, play it through before grinding anything
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>>2600812
if you start in prophecies just do yourself a service and get the fuck out when you get to lions arch and go do nighfall factions and eotn instead then some time in the future return to run through the rest of that garbage
>wahhh but the hero skills and the totally good henchmen though
dont care fuck off
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Imo we should just tell people to start with factions so they leave in frustration rather than boredom
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>>2601779
>>>/reddit/
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>>2601240
so don’t avoid titles entirely because they are necessary in some cases, just don’t worry about maxing them out because that’s really for people with nothing better to do since they completed everything else in the game
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>>2599029
>>2599499
Why is 16-17 so horrible compared to 17-18 that it needs to be skipped? What's so different at lvl17?
Also how should I level up if I do not get quest exp reward? I read online that I should follow Rurik killing those 3 charrs at the gate and /resign, but somehow despite being in aggro bubble I don't get exp half the time and it's taking fucking forever so I'm not doing that
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>>2602551
back in the day, before daily quests, once you hit 16 you couldn't get XP from the regular pre mobs anymore (the level 10 charr bosses), so you'd hit 16, pop all the quests to skip a level, and then start death leveling (alternatively save all the quests until you could pop them all to hit 20)

these days, the level of the daily vanguard quest enemies scale with your level, and at 17 you hit a new treshold and get high level enemies again to boost your XP gain all the way to max, while at 16 you still have to grind with lower level mobs, so it's easier to just skip that level as much as possible

the new dungeon has level-scaling mobs now too, but I don't actually know how that works, I imagine it's probably the best place to farm XP currently
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Do I really have to cross continent from LA by foot if I want to start prophecies campaign from nightfall or am I missing something here?
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>>2602661
Yes, you really do, and you won't get to experience pre-Searing or any of the quests leading up to Lion's Arch.
There's a reason we suggest a new character for each campaign.
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>>2602662
Whew okay... I want to grab althea, what's the best way to do that or am I fucked and need to start over from prophecies?
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>>2602669
Ghost of Althea is new Reforged content so they updated the old quest pre-reqs to be not locked behind a Prophecies-only character. You just have to run all the way to Ascalon, find Piken Square, and take the quest The Duke's Daughter from Duke Barradin (and be in Reforged mode of course). That'll get you the hero.
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>>2602674
>https://wiki.guildwars.com/images/d/df/Ascalontolionsarch.jpg
Ok, one more thing. That map still legit to follow?
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>>2602683
Yes, and you should definitely go that slightly out of the way distance to get Grendich Courthouse for use during the quest chain for the new dungeon.
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>>2602685
>https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Grendich_Courthouse
All right noted. Thanks anon.
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>>2602551
don’t worry about quest autism because the vanguard daily quest gives a pile of xp if you need it
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>>2602694
it's noted as a side detour on the first map you posted.
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>>2602707
Oh right, yeah didn't notice that. Still a long way to go.
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>>2602551
the vanguard quest enemies basically get leveled up 3 times. at level 10 they are level 8, so by level 13 they aren't giving squat for xp anymore (xp given for a kill is dependent on how many levels above or below the enemy you killed are, if they're 5 levels below you they give you 16-17 xp each kill, 4 levels below you 32 xp per kill, 3 levels below you 48 xp per kill, 2 levels below 68 xp per kill), but the Charr Bosses in Northlands are level 10 and give double xp when killed so you can still level up grinding those. At level 14, the vanguard quest enemies become level 11, so you can get decent xp on them again, but at level 16, the charr bosses stop giving any xp at all, and the enemies from the Vanguard Quests only give 16 xp per.

So it depends. Do you just want to do 1 quest per day for 1000 xp across like 10 days to get from level 16-17, or do you want to get from 16-17 almost instantly at level 17 the enemies scale up again to level 15 so you get decent xp again.
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>>2602735
you should grab Piken Square too, it's the closest outpost to the new dungeon
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>>2602787
How do I do that? Just follow the road outside the breach? Place is dilapidated af, can't see where to go.
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>>2602956
Nvm I'm there.
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>tfw arrived too late to run anon from LA to Ascalon
Sorry anon, maybe next time
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>running all the way from LA and slogging through the new dungeon just for a lvl 12 mesmer hero
Just put Odurra in your party. She'll fuck shit up better than your jank ass mesmer hero.
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>>2603124
Odurras not in every zone, and Althea saves me a merc
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>>2603124
ghost women > human women
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>>2603047
wanna race?
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>>2603124
heroes are eventually better than hench, surely you're not arguing the opposite.
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>>2603124
imagine if mercs never existed though
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ZM NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>2603859
went ahead
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>>2603124
If you can reach LA, you can access most of the meta dom mesmer hero bar. Mistrust is available in kamadan and michiko has access to the core skills. Only missing spiritual pain which is in yohlon and just needs consulate docks, and esurge, which is a ways in regardless of campaign.
Illusion gets clumsy sig in kama, and core skills from michiko too. It needs you to reach eotn for wandering eye but that's not really hard to do with pretty minimal combat. Again the elite is the problem but you can run clumsiness until you get ineptitude or shared burden.
Getting mesmer heroes decent bars is not hard at all, even on a melandru character. Unironically the harder part is making your way back to ascalon as a non proph character.
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Are Earth and Water main bars even worth using as an Ele?
Feels like they're only good as supports to Air and Fire builds
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>>2604107
Earth is fun and cool but a bit weaker. Shockwave+crystal wave is good. Unsteady ground is good. Churning earth, eruption, and earthquake/d stomp are all good. The main issue is earth doesn't have the low CDs aoe skills like fire and air besides aftershock. The low CDs it does have are single target, and are either low damage, or very expensive for the damage they do.
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>>2604107
earth is good, yeah. water is mostly used against destroyers because they have lower armor against it.
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if anyone has a scythe grip of necro I'll buy for 10e
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>>2604107
Earth has enough powerful DoT AoEs to function like a fire nuker build would. Comes with a lot more crowd control and utility compared to fire (e.g. Churning Earth, Eruption, etc), but is also a lot more expensive on energy.
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What the fuck happened to domination runes?
They used to be so expensive
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>>2604202
nah just prodigy dude
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>>2604192
those are worth like 40e
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>>2604261
average is 20 to 30 and I am poor and brown
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>>2604107
Earth is fun, and I find best played as kind of a "tank" with stone striker, geomancer insignias, and the Energy Storage Axe, Shockwave or Master of Magic mixing in some other elmental PBAOE (Lightning Touch, Frozen Burst or Grasping Earth, Whirlwind, Aftershock) is fun, but it suffers if you face heavy enchant removal. The ranged DoTs are also pretty good though, especially as something like Churning Earth in hard mode causes knockdowns more often to keep them in the aoe because in hard mode every enemy passively has IMS.
Water I want to like but even against destroyers it's really weak.
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>>2604261
I've gotten one for 20e I think or 25 at the most.
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We got feather barons now



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