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holy hell the skullcrusher armor for gunner is cool as fuck
>>2528443>esl reading comprehension
I'm having fun with rogue core. Probably won't play it as much as DRG, but it's pretty good.
I have been thinking about a blogpost/yt video essay on DRG to annoy you withSkill and equipment is not what makes or breaks missions, it's map geometry. Driller/engi can terraform. Many salvage missions I'm in would FAIL if i didn't terraform but kept blasting, but would succeed if I didn't shoot once but created a perfect flat area with good sightlines or good funneling. In other mission types having space for multiple people to kite swarms is also important and having bad drillers that don't passively prepare rooms before or during a swarm on bad maps will lose you the game if you get pinned down in bad map geometryThe time you have from first spotting a swarm to the swarm touching you is EVERYTHING, on a perfectly flat plane this could be 20seconds, with a bad ledge near an objective this could be .5. that's 19.5 seconds more to react and shoot them. Being swarmed ie surrounded by enemies drops your teams effectiveness very low and thas how you start losingBad/unprepared terrain will drop your whole teams combat effectiveness from 100 down to maybe even 10% with high friendlyfire, which is MUCH more impactful on average than guns/skill. In addition good bug funnel with plats can increase your effectiveness above to 300% for Aoe dmg by making chokepoints and cutting out blind angles. if the baseline is a perfectly flat plane at 100% or a flat tunnel with good sightlines
awriiight, partnuh....
>>2530913KEEP ROLLING
>>2530884Is this really a hot take? I thought that Engie was generally considered the best class in the game.
>I'M A DWARF AND I'M DIGGING A HOL->*KABOOM*Have some Fat Boy from my PGL, Scunt
>>2530203I think that the armor looks even cooler without the Skullcrusher helmet or paintjob. Here's my Conan-inspired Gunnah that uses the Dawn of the Dread paintjob on it, pretty sweet if I say so myself
>>2528697hurricane is so goated>missile mancer>find a mineral hoarder>missile mancer missiles in circles until I got like 30 rockets and they start to overlap>rape
>>2531318Give me a QRD on them purple missles, I always think that I'm spending too much ammo on single targets and that I can save up a lot more thanks to the projectile penetration overclock.
>>2531393its great, but needs more attention than other OCs as you got to keep aiming at ze bugs while the bees rape them, it quickly ramps up damage when you got a few midair. I'm more of a fragmentation missiles guy
>>2531405>I'm more of a fragmentation missiles guySame, I want to start using the purple bees for EDDs though since frag grenades kinda suck for single targets (not that they're bad but plasma missiles look easier to use than them.)
>>2531416I use jetfuel or OFM for single target, but I think the explosive nature of hurricane just works better when you go full area damage and just focus your secondary for single targetsame reason why carpet bomber and mortar rounds are so good for the thunderheadt. rank 45 gooner
Anon did you remember to brush your beard today
>>2531468>the explosive nature of hurricane just works better when you go full area damage and just focus your secondary for single targetYeah totally, I like to rock the hurricane with either Compact Mags BR7 or Elephant Rounds Bulldog.I'm just now trying new OCs for the time being.
>>2531673I can't grow one
DRG has poisoned me so badly that I find myself smashing F to throw flares in other games when the area is too dark.
>>2531301It's gunner and it's not even close. Neurotoxin payload is fucking retarded broken. You can solo, as in no bosco solo, 6x2 and 7x2 with it fairly easily. Engie has the best "kill things right the fuck now" output, but has terrible ammo economy when clearing truly large hordes and is heavily reliant on breach cutter stuns to not get overwhelmed. (You can use the shotgun with stunner, but giving up loki for long distance and/or serious burst hurts a ton).Between the fear on both the autocannon and the coil gun, tons of DoTs, the shield for the actual panic situations, and leadbursters, gunner is head and shoulders above everything else. The only bad thing on gunner is your mobility weaponslot. Everything else is absurd. Fear is just a better stun, especially with neurotoxin. Neurotoxin applies a slow. Fear makes them run to a predetermined coordinate, so they spend longer CCed when snared. Electricity from the coil gun makes this even stronger. A coilgun shot at a pack of praetorians that have neurotoxin more or less makes all of them passive for the next 5 seconds. Plus burning if you're running hellfire.If you're in full lobies and running modified difficulties, the engie will frequently have the most kills, and repellant on the platform gun makes things tremendously easier, but the gunner or driller are often going to top the engie's damage by a huge margin. Engie killing 30 grunts with 2 BC shots farms stascreen points, but those kill values are misleading when 95% of the trash would die to burning or neurotoxin from the gunner/driller, and those were at 20% hp when the BC shot happened to collide with them while the engie was unloading on praetorians.Platforms aren't really terraforming. Repellant additive is up there in the top 10 abilities on any gun in the game. You can turn any random concave segment of wall into a very powerful pseudo bunker with 5-10 platforms, forcing anything that doesn't fly to come in at eye level and bunched up.
>>2533086Would you really Gunnah the best class just for one admittedly broken and OP overclock though like what happens when (and if) they nerf Neurotoxin PL. Meanwhile Engie will always be able to dive and control the territory around him.
>>2531301If that's what you got from my post, ok, "the map" is the best dwarf in the game>>2533086I'm considering kicking players that join with fear NTP, not because I hate them, but because I'll be bored for the next 20 minutes because I can just go afk since all bugs bunner wafts his shaft across will never reach any of us.Fearcoil is similar but at least it's not as obnixiously obvious that I can go afk.superMeta aside, I'm having a lot of fun with EM refire + fatboy right now, the instant long distance swarm deletion is very fun and gives your team a quick break when you can get it off
>>2534540>"the map" is the best dwarf in the gameSure, I absolutely agree with that part too. And Engie is the best class at making the most of a bad cave gen was my previous point.>EM refire + fatboyKino loadout, almost wished that EM DIscharge wasn't meta because it eclipses EM Refire
>>2534685i'd say driller is the best all-around at making game-losingly small and constrained caves liveable. Engi helps in open spaces and in tight tunnels where he can close off one side and put plats on the ceiling but he fails in tight and obstructed rooms. When both work together every biome can feel better than sandstone or biozone
>>2534793Ay agreed, when your Engie and Drillah are decent at teamworking then pretty much every mission can become a walk in the park (with the sole exception of Elimination I guess)
>>2534811Decent drilla can make a bad elimiation boss room setup manageable.
>>2535195Yeah true but usually most people just agree to fight back at spawn which already is an okay room not counting the big ass hole that the drop pod leaves after starting the mission and that Engie can easily fill with his platforms.
>>2535230All it takes is one prolonged hiveguard fight in there and it's less hassle to terraform another room for the next one.
>>2535332Just don't take too long with the Hiveguard, ez :^)
>>2534540>>2534685Post your Elimination builds for Engie pleaseMine has has EM Refire + Hyper Propellant and Proximity Mine>>2533086My Neurotoxin Payload build for Goonner has Triple-Tech Chambers Coilgun but that's because I think Six Shooter is a bit overrated
>>2535822I just use MCAO for the stubby, for the rest it's exactly like yours: HP for the PGL and mines.
What was supposed to be a 20-30 minutes long mission is now 40+ because of a Crassus Detonator
>>2535822I mostly only play on modded difficulties, so my elimination build is more or less identical to my normal loadout. Tunnel visioning on boss killing fucks you on higher hazards.Loki with either Explosive Chemical Rounds or Executioner. Executioner is usually a bit better but ECR is reasonable.Breech Cutter is far ahead of the other two secondaries for dreadnaughts. Normal non dreadnaught loadouts are Inferno, Roll Control, Stronger Plasma Current, or Light Weigh Cases. On dreadnaught LWC with 21122 for a full ammo build is quite solid. You still get all the usual goodness of Breach Cutter, with a little less oomph per shot, but you can absolutely mag dump when the situation calls for it. 6 shots per mag and 21 in reserve. That means you get 14 shots per resupply. With good people in a modded lobby it's quite common for the engie to double dip on dreadnaughts and unload nearly all of their ammo on each fight.Hyper prop is alright on low hazard levels, but if you're playing on 5 with bonus enemies or actual 5x2, you're entirely reliant on your team carrying you between dreadnaught encounters. If you join a modded lobby with hyper prop, you're effectively griefing.>>2535822The only time I'll ever use the revolver is when playing with friends running fire so I can use VB. If I'm pubbing, I'll never use it unless I'm joining a host running a heavy fire build, and honestly even then I probably wont. The coilgun has good "get the fuck off me" power. The revolver leaves you entirely dependent on your primary or shields for that.I used to be a big fan of triple tech for making a cone of electric trails, but I prefer the clean Ultra-Magnetic Coils for general CC. Throw it down a long corridor and you can ignore that direction for a few seconds. Hellfire is still absurd of course, even after the nerf a few years back.
>swarm warning>instead of staying in a cleared and defensible position or falling back to a central area like the minehead 80% of players will run off and immediately die
>>2528697>>2334472
>>2536029at least you can get bosco to help out
>>2537861bosco is so useful I always get amused when the first person joins me and I realize I'll miss him
>>2537248Return to sender is also a fun BC OC for dreads.
Rogue Core with the jumble modifier is genuinely very fun to play, and makes for some hilarious builds. After sinking 50 hours into the early access it's the most important thing that keeps me playing.
>>2539094i think its awful because you can go the whole mission without a mobility tool
