First, when orgs in op?

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lets start arguing again

Drakecon is already gone, op.

>>2534979
T-thanks I guess anon.
But since 3.22 I've only been fucked rough twice, other times me and my crew either wipe the floor or escape.
My favorite is when we got fucked by 7 fighters + Perseus, but managed to boost nav max speed, turn around 180 decoupled and shoot a single torpedo to the mantis trying to keep up - and it ate the torp, we escaped with last engine left.
So I guess I fancy my odds.

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>>2534964
historically it's led to nothing but drama. there's really only one big active umbrella org around these parts anyway

>>2535020
k.
I just want to lure yurop anons to join my org.

>>2534917
>at least 6 new ships have dropped since LAMP got an initial rollout
>maybe 2 of them have LAMP
another cool feature given the tier0 treatment and fucking dropped forever. they have serious management issues, this isn't a dev problem, it's a 'we don't know how to set or maintain priorities' problem. these are guy tinkering in his garage issues, always starting things and never getting them done before moving on to the next one, it shouldn't happen to BILLION DOLLAR global companies

>>2535025
no one is going to stop you from posting it here. btw currently most of the merchant gang is australian so those are the hours we generally play. I doubt that lines up with EU hours any better than NA but just FYI

>>2535025
I'm EU and looking to join an org. what does it offer? I recently bought a flight stick and want to practice getting good at combat.

>>2534917
3.18 and 4.0 were probably better in the sense that when the game full hard crashed every 15 minutes or at start you couldn't waste an hour on contracts that didnt work

>>2535044
>>2535254
I've posted it before but I run https://robertsspaceindustries.com/en/orgs/FML
About 3-4 guys play more actively and the rest on/off.
As for what we mainly do, we tend to test the newest content and then fuck off to do whatever is the most profitable but open to everything. Like I said to the pirateanon we're not pirates but mostly because its not profitable - nothing against any playstyle and since I have been quite active I have friends in all the lowest places.

>>2535283
I've only played since 3.22 which was arguably the best and most stable sandbox time of the game. Overall there's been some ok patches after 4.0 but if we consider how unreliable it is for any single mission or even content like CZ to work each patch - its insane.
CZ as a rule works after server restart for a single time, my favorite one was the part where it spawned unlootable armor loot boxes instead of the cz loot.

>>2535044
>>2535408
Also, I'll gladly play with you guys and everyone of worth in my org too. But the time difference is pretty rough - AU servers are some of the escape servers for EU when servers are working too slow.

>>2535408
>https://robertsspaceindustries.com/en/orgs/FML
logo patch is high effort and tasteful.
Video had some good clips.

If you guys are EU I might consider it a bit later once I have more time.

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>>2535428
Take your time - and thanks.
The vid has horrible framerate but I don't blame the guy who took it, not the top of the line pc - none of the video options we have now and Hathor first week.
Notably on that video you can see me take out a polaris with single torpedo (before engineering), missiles are/were a thing of magic and dissapointment.

I am tempted to make Black and White color image for the trannyweek. Surely CIS is allowed too, surely the tolerant left will allow that...

>>2535408
3.2x came about because 3.18 was such a disaster that they had to focus on stability for several months after, same with 4.0 to 4.4
The issue probably stems from metrics they use to address stability
Stats for things like crash frequency, mission completion rate, abandonment rate, etc.
If something is missing from those stats then it doesnt get acknowledged until they track it, or disregarded if the stats show that its not common despite updoots on reddit

>>2535614
Makes sense but I don't know if I agree to what is posted as the reason for this type of patches which is: "Before the patches took too long since we wanted to polish them"
If that'd be the case, then at least you could play a working game for long periods of time.

>>2535623
"polish" means "it doesn't immediately crash at launch" because when it hits evo there will still be things straight-up broken like QT not working 100% of the time
actual stability pushes take at least 3-5 months to see results
3.18 to 3.23 was from 2023/03 to 2024/06
4.0 to 4.6 was from 2024/12 to 2026/01
Minus the broken versions we got several months of playable SC
These aren't "long" periods but they did exist, and only lasted until people complained about the lack of new features and slow development

What CIG should do is make everyone happy by letting LIVE version stick to 3.23 and let PTU get 4.9, 4.10, etc.
It would prove they can make something stable and that they are making tangible progress

>>2535732
"It's and alpha"
But yeah maybe, I find it interesting how CIG has to operate so differently to any other company - its not a great sign.

>>2534964
Instead of the OP as >>2535020 pointed out, I started putting orgs founded by anons here in the new/returning player rentry at the beginning of 4.8: https://rentry.org/guier/#scg-orgs

Speaking mainly on behalf of merch, engagement in playing right now, especially in a project which is very hostile to anything multiplayer/multicrew, is entirely dependent on how well the current live patch is doing. Since 4.8 is a disaster on almost every front, you can imagine the real lack of enthusiasm to play and put up with Chris's bullshit, but always down to shitpost.

>>2535408
I threw FML in there just now with a quick description based off of what you posted, but happy to change it to whatever you want.

>>2536561
Its really hard to justify spending time on Star Citizen on many patches. I don't blame the smart ones who avoid it.

>>2536561
The description is nice, thanks.

>>2536561
Also, reading through it..
A very good guide - best I've seen. Pinned it on our discord and gonna refer to it in the future.

>>2536681
Appreciate it. I have alot more I need to update on, but I have to find the time/the game has to be playable enough for me to actually engage with the content to make a proper writeup.

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Incoming maintenance on Tuesday at 8AM UTC
4.8.1 release, roadmap update, and May monthly report on Wednesday

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This fucking guy.

>>2538032
Seems to be talking alot in pvp related threads but never really seems to have anything to say, no insight.

so does squad 42 mean direct stuff to sc??? like will it improve movement and shooting mechanics on sc or is this one those SC held back s42 so movement is shit.

>a certain staff member will be pushing for the 600i in 2027
>Paul Jones officially left Ubisoft in late March
>He's been hanging around Manchester
habbedig

>>2535038
Anon JC literally laid out what the problem is, it was meant to be automated, but it can only be automated if the cockpit glass moves, it was done by hand in the like one other case for the cutty.

>>2538127
It does but also don't expect improvements moving over to the PU branch anytime soon. There was a QnA recently this year that went over the improvements to FPS SQ42 has, that has yet to make its way over to the PU: https://youtu.be/zG3-_QymLiQ?t=3102
Honestly, until they shit that turd out once and for all, dont hold your breath.
>>2538174
I hope that motherfucker is tied to a chair until he finishes what he started BMM.

>>2538127
fps scanning, new flight model, atmospheric flight, quantum travel rework, quantum boost are in S42 but this has been the case since 2023

What kind of server maintenance completely wipes out the website and game forums too...

>>2538655
Cig is too good to host their web services in cloud.

>>2538655
They packed their bags and left. Also, they got your cousin.

>>2538655
This is the only way cig employees can get time off

>get itch to reinstall and spend some time on my decade long investment
>recent news is the game is in one of its most unplayable states

given how utter shit the times I have played it is it even worth coming back to for a but or is it REALLY BAD? last time I played was when they added the second star system.

>>2538774
It's bad, but the consensus is it's not bad as it was during 3.x. Surprisingly there aren't so many crashes this patch, at least for me. The big problem is that systems just stop working or work 50% of the time. If you can live with that, then it's worth checking out again. Just don't do anything that involves a heavy time investment or that can lose ingame money from bugs. Lots of people reporting bugged out missions that won't finish, especially with turn ins. Also, if you have an ironclad, you will be crushed to death if you use it, nevermind the million other bugs, such as command module detaching when it pleases. It's quite laughable.

>>2538774
Worse than when 4.0 went to live for sure. I mean, almost every piece of content and feature added within the last two years is broken in some way and requires eldritch workaround knowledge harnessed by the most masochistic of backers. New ships receive no testing in the PTU, are sold for hundreds of dollars, and remain in a broken state for weeks or months, while old bugs resurface and decade-old systems like the mobi-glass remain nearly unusable. Up until a few hours ago, a lot of people had logged in and were not able to log back in for days. The last time anything like this happened was 3.18, but at least that patch had the excuse of introducing PES, a monumental tech update that touched every aspect of the game in some way, but with 4.8 all they have as an excuse is "breaking player records."

I have to mention the introduction of ship insurance/bricking, but I won't go too in-depth about it here. Basically, they added some pretty harsh aUEC penalties when you want to reclaim your ship with its custom components, while also not fixing ANY bugs that destroy/disappear your ship. You can read it over here, this is our reality going forward:https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/1/thread/alpha-4-8-vehicle-insurance-and-item-bricking-upda/8849042

All in all, they have treated the live environment with such disregard it finally collapsed like the sandcastle it is. Will it get better? They have another sale deadline to meet pretty soon with Alien Week, so take a guess...

>>2538835
>Up until a few hours ago, a lot of people had logged in and were not able to log back in for days.
Alot of people bed logged and couldn't log back in for days*

This problem is dying down abit thanks to hotfixes and the maintenance might solve more cases.

>>2538835
I've been doing my part by shit talking cig non-stop in global chat. The apologist cig-sympathizers that come out of the wood works and call you a baby for "crying about bugs" is insane. These people are mind-broken for the game. They wear the abuse from cig like a badge of pride.

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>>2538877
Conditioning by Jarrod who glazes the devs like no other and makes excuses for each and everything talked about in ISC/SCL. You will find most of those who brazenly glaze CIG are covid era fags that haven't gotten the hint yet.

Just a quick couple hours maintenance guys...
>5 hours later

>>2538916
It's never been more over.

For other anons...

Some anon last thread told me to go all deadbolts on the m80. It doesn't seem better or worse than s5 deadbolts with s4 laser cannons. I will say that I attempted gilly 8 with a solo m80. I was able to get the polaris fairly red, but I had to leave and return 3 times to rearm until the polaris just started desyncing vast distances and I gave up.. where is a good weak spot to get a generator kill?

>>2538774
>New and returning players want some money and gear
>Check QVL if its working
>Still exploited, still broken
>Go to warehouse
>Entire QVL area desyncs and we get trapped inside, anyone coming to laugh at us get stuck
Its playable but nothing except latest content works (tsg sorta works)
Its been this way almost every patch since they started doing starkov rustizen

>>2538979
Its bottom, for some reason bottom rear seemed to work on perseus cannons almost better.
Im that anon and all i can say is, stay positive - the lasers probably wouldnt have killed the shields.

>>2538979
>>2539090
Ill check the stats for you when i get the chance. I did it with corsair myself, but even with perseus my gun crews seem to be shit at getting the reactor while i do get it quite consistently (with perseus) ill check the penetration depth and damage after shields and armor for you and lets see.

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>>2538979
Ok, sorry anon.
Turns out im retarded - Deadbolts are not strong enough to go through with shields.
Even my corsair stuff is retarded as the best the deadbolt 4's do is help get the shields down to 80% after which the DB5 penetrates.
Even after that its way too little damage to get the generator down in reasonable time.

I literally wasted your time, my apologies.

>>2539420
Very similar thing against HH, but in general the Deadbolt 4 is the issue - your hunch on m6a+dbv might be correct. How much cap does M80 get with it - 25?

>>2538032
Grey is a really nice guy actually

Foxyloxy posted a video where tiburon guns can be controlled by pilot.

(alt+f4 and relog on remote turret view)

Its a clear exploit but It got me wondering, would that work for other ships?

>>2539594
Embarassing.

>>2539616
What's embarrassing? He is. He just can't stop running his mouth is all.

>>2539628
He's a dumbass newgen.

>>2539420
>>2539430
I'm the original s4 laser cannon / s5 deadbolt m80 loadout purveyor in the thread. I suspected that the s4 deadbolts weren't doing any damage to hammerheads when using them along with s5, since the hammerhead popped around the same time of sustained fire. s4 laser cannons are capable of dropping the shields on the hammerhead though. I tested full deadbolts on the Polaris. As I said, I was able to destroy components on the Polaris through the shields, but I think only the s5's were doing any work. The shields were taking damage from the all ballistic loadout.

The s4/s5 deadbolts absolutely wrecks things smaller than the hammerhead, but the laser cannons also work well in that regard. I'm thinking s4 lasers cannons and s5 deadbolts might be the best duo for pve at least, and maybe pvp against bigger targets.

Did they fix the ironclad yet

>>2540158
I don't think they will fix it, but allegedly there is a hotfix coming tomorrow that may or may not fix it.

Servers are back up

>>2540110
pvp is a mess, I woudn't worry about it too much. If you play PU all pvp is a crapshoot anyway. You could be against a vulture or a idris. group of 7 fighters, 3 idrises.. anything really. And most of the time nothing.
Eg. Deadbolt has 1112 projectile speed vs 1390 galdereen repeater (fastest s5)

>>2540231
QVL still fucked.

>>2538032
I remember seeing a lot of absolute dogshit posts from that name but iirc it was actually on reddit

>>2538029
>actually putting on the scienceman suit
I respect it but you know you don't have to do that right? it's a recipe for losing all your shit the way this garbage game is. you can just knock one of those nerds out on the scan pad and wake him up with a medpen, it will scan him and open the door

>>2538184
so why wasn't it done by hand on new ships built since? their pipelines are fucked and full of holes is why

I love it when PVE shitters who play this think they're getting a safe version of Hathor or CZs.

Fucking retard bobs. I've probably dropped 1K+ A1 bombs on Hathor just to keep carinite prices high.

>>2541278
isnt the hole constantly open too?
kinda deserve it at that point.

>>2541278
I've never seen you

>>2541370
What if you have? We're anons.

>>2541306
Allegedly. I've seen people fire the laser on 4.8 too.

>>2534917
Took a break for a bit, total blackout.
Did I fuck up and come back too late for the aurora LTI?

>>2541685
Yuh.

>>2539090
>>2538979
you can see components in "precision mode"....

>>2541019
We were figuring it out as we went along, had a good time
Good to know but I'll probably forget by the time we do it again

>>2541814
Shit
Oh well, thanks anon

>>2542274
Yes, as i was describing in earlier thread which is which. Eg. Cylinder is shields, pizza is reactor

>>2541278
Why are PvPfags always so uppity and aggro about this shit, no one cares as much as you guys do
Unironically PvP is a joke in this game, you don't win with skill you win with luck based on your ping and you are wasting your time learning any flight mechanics when they could drastically change the way everything related to it works (with precedent)

>>2542559
Oh no doubt you're going to be an ace in the next flight model while being a shitter in the current one

If they want that ww2 flying, they need to make retrothrusters practically not exist.

>>2542682
And remove decoupled I suppose.

>>2542670
That's not what I said though?
What I said was
>you are wasting your time learning any flight mechanics when they could drastically change the way everything related to it works
Are you unable to read?

>>2542712
>Are you unable to read?
of course not, it's a pvpshitter
Anything more than "unga bunga, me throw rock" is beyond them

>>2542685
Landing without decoupled feels so fucking AIDS.

>>2542559
You're bad.

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The pvp vs pve drama is the gayest shit in this game. Carebears need to stfu and prepare to be boarded/destroyed or bring an escort. End of story.

PvE Carebears when confronted with any adversity:
>picrel

>>2543289
Player policing is not happening anywhere near the rate i would expect.

>>2543411
I understand the frustration of PvE carebears, but I highly doubt that the level of ganking that they bitch about incessantly on spectrum is actually occurring ingame. It's more likely that they are trying to solo active pvp zones and are getting ass blasted when they get ganked in said pvp zones. You have to actively participate in pvp in order to get ganked in most cases. There are outliers, but again, these outliers would always be solved by bringing numbers.

Me personally? I just bail out the ship and then snipe retard pirates from the deep black as they try to enter it, seemingly oblivious to the fact that the door was already open for some reason.

No escorts required, and certainly no cucked negotiations.

>>2543431
It would help if CIG's game designers weren't all fucking zoomer retards who can't comprehend a game-loop being interesting without combat or pvp.
Every game loop must be inundated with dogshit combat and there's no way at all to get certain materials without pvp.

>>2543431
Looking at the victims of griefing, its a bit odd that its the same guys always getting fucked. Meanwhile for me its quite rare to get pvp of any kind.
I asked if its a US server thing and apparently thats a part of it.

>>2543544
I have no real reason to not believe you, afterall my pvevp gang wins more than looses on the few pvp fights we get - but what you wrote reads a lot like fanfic.

>>2543728
I wasn't gonna say anything, my first reaction was a duck smoking a cig, laughing and shaking my head in disbelief, but yeah, it's fanfic

>>2543721
I've been playing a bit more, and I haven't really seen it a lot lately. I had a single instance where one guy try to ram me while I was in a reclaimer, but his ship deflected and exploded, and then I salvaged it. I haven't even seen signs of it in global chat. The most griefer thing I've seen in global chat recently involved two pve carebears arguing over who got to use the same elevator first. They stayed at an impasse for like an hour, it was honestly insane. Then they both logged, and some rando dude who had been watching the whole thing announced he got all their cargo they were trying to sell.

fuckin people...

>>2543772
I saw in spectrum that tsg had some griefers, twice on the same guy.
Its not impossible, cig designef it like garbage where you can wait in the station and steal all loot when the msision progresses. But to actovely giref and eg. Kill the guy leaving... little odd to hapen to same guy twice.

>>2543772
Also, yeah. Back when it was just stanton id see pvp more often. Now after pyro and nyx, being in pyro and nyx.. very little.

>>2543728
>>2543761
Cope. It's not exactly hard to leave the ship and go unnoticed in space.

4.8.1 happened. Ironclad is still fucked.

>>2544102
leaving the ship unnoticed in space is the only believable part

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> 4.8.1 patch is entirely for a new mission type
> New mission is bugged with old(?) issues around NPC hangar doors
> Half of the new missions are gated behind an intro mission that has been bugged forever
This is such a clown show. Remember to grief whales and abandon stock ships on Infront of a hangar at the end of every play session.

>>2544933
Do they have good pay.
Iirc saltemike said that Xenothreat event will pay 4mil, so kinda waiting on that to make real money.
Been doing QVL for what I've needed so far - even without loot it has that 1 mil reward thats kinda fast and easy to get.

>>2544933
The new missions pay out like 50k and include defending a few fuel pods followed by escorting a friendly NPC to a hangar. It is not possible to actually complete the mission because the hangars don't open but even if it was its not good money vs just doing a merc mission.

>>2545053
Thats the starting tier, any idea on the biggest difficulty?

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Holy shit how incompetent can you be.
Super Max FATSUIT.

>>2545265
This looks like ass.

>>2545403
It has some "cool" elements but whoever made it didnt realize that they NEED to do an atls style exo or it just wont work, if you keep putting pants and shirts on a person, they can no longer move since the radius of their limbs is too large - And this shows in video games by clipping issues. You can see the issues in the legs already. imagine moving..

>>2545265
Needs roller blades for mobility.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-sFEdh0a64

>>2545053
Mine DID open, but the ship just randomly exploded after they closed. You can also get the version where they leave the hangar, and then QT after reaching a certain point (they will not QT)

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>>2544933
>aurora mk.1 ""bombers"" just guruba nasheed straight into the fuel tanks
>gladiators do a single pass of laser fire, no torps, then turn around and park for you to kill them (when I did it the glad literally nosed into an existing pile of gladiator scrap and stopped)
>many targets just spawn in and never move
>no mission UI or acknowledgement at any point, have to check alerts to even be sure it's done
>criminal version appearing in the legitimate tab right beside foxwell even though the enemies would presumably be law enforcement

>>2545418
>>2545265
this looks like a onesie like the novikov and pembroke suits. I think the point is that it does limit your mobility quite a bit but makes you nigh invincible.

I foresee them having a hard time balancing this.
a guy who can't run for cover is going to have to be an absolute tank to make up for it, and they're just going to run into the classic sniper problem, which is also their missile problem; you've introduced dynamite to rock paper scissors. it's going to be a difference of 1hp and your mood that day whether this feels totally oppressive dickhead or an absolutely helpless gimp. it can just become an I win button (or an I lose button) depending on the situation.
pinned down in a long corridor with sporadic cover? he's gonna get you eventually. unless you have a plasma grenade, which he probably can't waddle out of in the space of it's entire burn.

>>2545265
that neck thing is absolutely going to obscure your vision btw

probably cant use mobiglass on the XL fatsuit

Erm, did the flight model get changed in this hotfix? Something feels really off and suddenly I'm fucking crashing into asteroids doing muscle reflex flight maneuvers that have saved me a million times.

>>2545869
>webm
I definitely had a couple oh shit moments where I really had to lean into the boosters to course correct away from asteroids in a wolf, which really should be nimble as fuck and not hanging on for dear life to change vector

>>2546001
idk why it says webm, I had done a ctrl f to see if there was anything interesting but I didn't put it in the comment

>>2545869
didn't get the chance to test it tonight. Maybe tomorrow. I fly bigger ships only so it will be hard to notice, or it can be a fighter thing.

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This guy should either be banned from specrum or receive monthly wage from cig.

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>>2546193
That's just Jarrods alt account for venting after a long day of getting bullied on twitter and SCL twitch chat.

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>go to bedlog after a couple missions in rented percy
>[cannot log; passengers on ship]
>remember I tried to mow down some 9tails who then ended up inside my rover and I had to knock them out
>go down to airlock the one that I left alive but unconscious
>medivac is empty
>must have clipped through the floor, look underneath
>this nigga is gone
>still can't bedlog, he is somewhere in the ship

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well this is just fucking silly

>>2546494
The ursa chassis tends to move characters on the roof, perhaps because its so low. Happy you found the stowaway.

>>2545265
god i love those kinda bulky armors

>>2545265
That armor reminds me of a dress for some reason. The silhouette however is that of a vertical blob, doesn't look imposing or impressive at all.

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>>2546494
Star Citizen is at its best when things are just a bit silly.

>>2547338
Which is almost always desu.

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>>2547265
Peak armor?

>>2547569
Are they all really hot girls under that armor?

>>2547265
Bulky armor looks like SHIT. Why did we move away from the undersuit with armor plates on top to this slop?

>>2547582
you can run around in your lynx core bro, no one is stopping you

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>>2547648
Say that to my face and not on spectrum motherfucker. Meet me at the Port Olisar airlock bitch.

The real problem in cig logic is not how the armor looks.
Its the idea of the armor to begin with.
Its harder for cig to fix ikti to actually work than it is to make a new armor set.
Heavy armor is already what heavy armor should be.
Adding the new armor only serves one purpose.

Make sales.

Game would be much better if FPS armor had penetration values and heavy armor deflected most pistol and SMG rounds but you were about half as slow as you are now.
Fight me.

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>>2547680
the flat out % is clearly a legacy thing anyway. Idris railgun also does 40% less damage to heavy armored person.
Will CIG do anything about it?

Maybe, but they clearly don't know how.
I'm tempted to go all out like >>2536561
And start collecting all the features where CIG is swimming against the stream and show what the rest of the game industry would have done (for better or worse) - as guide to CIG if they ever read it, and as an example to player just how fucked up the development of this game REALLY is.

>>2543431
They're actively lying to push a narrative that PVE servers are needed to protect shitters, yes.

In truth they just want easy mode access to the best loot in the game via CZs / Hathor without the PVP. Same thing as the Elite Dangerous community which is a bunch of reddit mods running huge private groups lying about how dangerous open is in order to recruit new players into their private group.

>>2543685
>there's no way at all to get certain materials without pvp.

Good.

>>2547730
one big problem with CIG that almost no one talks about, is that the reason we keep getting reworks of systems and eternal T0 shit is because the people working on that shit leaves, and no one else knows the code so they just push it to the side and redo it from 0 and the cycle repeats

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>>2547815
I don't care if anyone is pro-pve or pro-pvp but the anti-pvp stance will fucking end the game for me, if embraced. I'm not a murder hobo out looking for people to gank, but I do like to engage in open pvp or have the possibility to blast someone whenever and vice versa. It adds tension to the game and makes it exciting. You never know what can happen.

Meanwhile, I can guarantee that pve carebear anti-pvp predditors all watch shit like marvel/dc movies, have names like "Deadly4ss4ssin" or "KillerHero", see themselves as the infallible personal hero of Star Citizen PU, and probably even think they are Han Solo running "smuggling" missions, escaping from gankers left and right. Then they run into a pvp situation and try to pull a "Han shot first" and then proceed to just get their shit wrecked. They then tell the person that killed them in game "I hope you get cancer and die", and then start bitching in chat, spectrum, reddit(ugghh), 4chan about how pvp psychos ruin the game and they need pve only servers.

Actually, I've experienced all of the things I mentioned from the anti-pvp crowd. It's all so tiresome.

>pic-rel is only person with >2 braincells on spectrum

>>2547952
I just don't want to be around "pvp'ers" because they're always troons or furfags and that's gross.

>>2547968
Maybe you shouldn't play games like wow or ff14

>>2545265
Can we talk about how this will make PvP FPS even more fucking unplayable for anyone wearing light or medium armour?

I guarantee you everyone wears this all the time, no matter how slow they are.

>>2548047
nobody uses heavy armor anymore noob

>>2547818
Yes its obvious that the company culture is very allergic to touch other peoples work. Its so obvious.. like imagine the great amazing ship team refused to touch BMM since its not their work.

>>2547815
>>2547952
The game ONLY works as pvevp, any other version of the game will inevitably fail.
The specifics of how the pvp and pve are handled is far less important than the fundamental choice to keep it this way. However CIG clearly has no clue how to do it or really even a vision of what its supposed to be.

>>2548328
LF meta demands retards to go to pvp battle on a flightsuit.

>>2547968
PvErs you mean

>>2548782
nah pvp'ers are always some eurohomo calling himself a catboy or a troon named lexi or whatever

>>2545869
No, no changes to the FM. Different ship?

>>2548816
>>2548792
I understand its homomonth but just find a room and get to fucking.

>>2549011
>>2548782
>>2548792
Misquote due to retarded phoneposting.

>>2548792
>europe
Well there's your problem.

>>2549318
NTA.
Fair - but its also why I can confidently say I can fuck up most pvp'ers. PU euro pvp is kinda flatulent.
I used to watch A1 streams just to know when his goons came to EU to avoid them.

>>2549389
I guess the point is also that the "real pvp" crowd don't exactly play fair. A1 and Griefernet never really attack you with equal force or anything. Only when they are clearly inviting you and even then might just call help if they fuck up.

Question to scg regulars - by chance did any of you also belong to tfg?

I don't want to put fuel to the PvP vs PvE fire but I believe the main issue the game has is 1. griefing (essentially exploiting usually) and 2. Lack of player policing.
The interesting part is that people treat this piece of shit game very seriously - many of us (me) included, we look for ways to squeeze out the best money - best content..

But there are people like the medic-larpers who don't really benefit anything past the few moments of action they get.
If some people just sat binging shitty tv shows and talking shit while waiting for there to be need for the popo - we'd have a response to the regular pvp.
Griefing on the otherhand is problematic because the only real cure is to grief them back - which is the way I usually deal with the situation if possible.

>>2549407
The only orgs that reported they are "police" in spectrum were essentially bountyhunters who said "it needs to be worth my while".
As opposed to the medic-cucks who do it for free.

>>2549399
I am a complete rando to these anons in this thread. I am very vocal in global chat though because I got no friends that play. Also, most of my IRL friends are hitting spots in their lives where they are either fucking off due to distance and work, family life, or lack of interest in games. But I'm a gamer 4 lyfe.

I've started recruiting rando players for my personal shenanigans though and have started to pull peeps into a discord (ugggh I know). I always knew one day I'd have to make friends in SC.

>>2549407
Honestly, I see so many people chomping at the bit for an opportunity to fight "griefers" I imagine you could get players to secure locations through global chat and server hop if no one is willing. You also run the risk of inviting griefers though.

Most players hate "griefers" so much, they'd drop what they were doing to gank them. "Griefers" is such a bad term though, I prefer the term in-game politically motivated.

>>2549418
well tfg is titanfall general from back in the day.

You should join MERCH or FML, or make your own org. Its usually worth it even if there are downsides.

>>2549434
Everybody can grief on accident or occasionally. But there is a special breed of players who get their enjoyment purely and solely from removing the enjoyment of others. And there is no better way to do it but to exploit.

My most hilarious example is back from one of the cargo events where a guy was stealing cargo from outpost freight elevators with a Prowler Futility - he was in armstice so nobody could do anything. He started ramming other players etc. to spice it up later. So when we were done in our session, on return trip we went in - saw him on foot and scooped him on the polaris through the cockpit glitch. Flew out of armstice and when he started to realize we already gunned him down.

>>2549488
Man, I hate the ghost-boarding runover bug. That shit freaked me out one time when I was fucking around in an idris and tried to run a guy over that was trying to board, only to get jumpscared by him behind me later just standing there.

Kinda funny to see it play out the way you described.

>>2548782
I mean buzzcutpsycho is a closet neonazi and a PVE server guy

>>2549407
Something worth noting, generally the criminal pvp org pilots are far far better than the bounty hunter and will just solo kill 2-3 bounty hunter fighters.

>>2549737
I don't doubt it.
We're I the one to do police work, it do it for fun and I'd attempt to always have the edge.

is there a way to kill fighter pilots somehow through cockpit, you can get duul to spawn and be completely still, killing them and getting their metal could be profitable.

>>2549708
I don't know if closeted is the right descriptor
>>2549737
Bounty baiting is a simple joy

>>2549434
>I see so many people chomping at the bit for an opportunity to fight "griefers" I imagine you could get players to secure locations through global chat and server hop if no one is willing.
This might work if this group had more than 10 combined minutes of AC FF/SQB

>>2548328
Provably false and untrue but I'm not surprised to see something fucking retarded said by the retards ITT.
>muh g resist muh g resist
Retard

>>2545869
Didnt notice anything out of the ordinary

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gilly is training me to be a light fighter pilot

I love the Mustang series but the nomad is such an ugly dumb brick.

Very curious about the forge, but i really want to see sub capital CO ships come soon. It’ll happen after the pioneer I guess.

>>2552799
Mustang looks very cool, shame its kinda poop. Dunno about the version some anon mentioned that has more dick in it.
-
Remember, after maint all content, CZ - QVL - EXECH etc. are gonna work at least once.

People in this game chastise you for complaining about how shit the game is because "ItS aLpHa", yet in the same breath cry and complain about exploit usage and encourage bans based on it.

Also, why the FUCK is server maintenance happening on a Friday night???

>>2552799
mustang looks sick, is useless. nomad looks ass, is great. one of my favorite ships.

>>2554892
cause CIG loves to keep their employees in misery

>>2554892
CIG is a revolving door of interns trying to fix a fucked up project.

>>2555277
Revolving door will become an understatement if these 12-18 hour long overtime crunches to get sales patches out the door becomes the norm.

Update inc

bros, this fuckin maintenance ruined my gaming night. REEEEEEEEEEEEE

Ironclad finally fucking works.

>>2556019
Famous last words

>>2556046
Nah I tested it. QT and jumping works. No spontaneously dying to suffocation with a suit on.
Worst part is that the lighting is still fucked.

>>2556058
I've heard that it's still fucked from global chat. Please report back otherwise after a few days.

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What's the comfiest starter ship for a solo player to run around and explore with? I have a mustang alpha pack from a long time ago that I want to upgrade

>>2556176
After playing for the last month, just don't. Cig are a bunch of fucking pieces of shit and your time will be wasted. SC is like a tease right now. you're going to get fucked in every single way, except the way you want. Be warned.

>>2556176
The new aurora probably or a titan.

>>2556176
The old aurora probably or a titan.

>>2556481
Contrarian seethe.

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>no SQ42 at summer game fest
Welp, guess SQ42 is not gonna make the cut this year after all.
Eh, could be all the same, supposedly GTA 6 is still slated to come out this year so unless they get it out in August or something before GTA 6 in December, it will only cause more damage than good to release the shit closely to the GTA 6 release.

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>>2547576
Nah in the Fifth Element they simply took a hand with some DNA and simply 'regenerated' a clone(???) out of it.

>>2547952
I think we need grand theft ship

>>2556176
Dont bother. Ill give you ingame money to any starter each patch if it comes to that.
Join an org, fly with other massive honkers.
But: Avenger titan overall, Aurora mk2 for latest, cutter for aesthetics. If you love misery-intrepid

>>2556774
Legionnaire concept ship

I can't log in brehs...

UEX'ers btfo

Game is currently on fire sinking, literally unplayable. The hotfix made things worse. Cig continues to diminish gameplay with things like bricking components that you salvaged or limiting in game credit transfers in an attempt to stop duping or duping related activities. They really did get mad about everyone having billions in game and buying whatever they wanted, kek. And they are banning people in an alpha over using exploits when they should be asking them how to recreate said exploits or just fucking fix it. All of this while selling broken $600 ships with advertisements and now $5000 jpegs.

Ngl, game is starting to legitimately feel like a scam. It used to be defendable early on as crowdfunding, but now, the hand rubbing is almost tangible.

I'm starting to think something happened behind the scenes like a quiet acquisition of the company by private equity.

>>2557487
Chris is cashing out now that S42 is almost done. He only pretended to give a shit about the PU to get money for his boondoggle nd now it's almost done he has no reason to even pretend to give a shit about star citizen anymore.

bring back todd pappy

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>>2557487
>The broken escort missions they "disabled" this hotfix are still available in the contracts manager.
>The limit they put on transferring aUEC can be bypassed by just sending any amount over 1 million.
>Shard locking has gotten significantly worse, to the point an entire region could be a trap.
>SQ42 was not shown off at SGF, all but soft confirming its delay.

All of this took place within the span of the last 24 hours. The sandcastle known as the Persistent Universe has collapsed.

>>2557536
>SQ42 was not shown off at SGF, all but soft confirming its delay.
Chris said in interview that SQ42 is coming after GTA6, that then being December - its already clear SQ42 will not be coming out 2026.
I heard that part of CIG loans is for marketing of SQ42, but outside of that they dont have any cash reserves to market the game either.

Considering they want to launch Q1 2027 - then we should see some absolutely crazy bullshit at end of year 2026 for cig to gather marketing funds.

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>>2557602
To be abit more clear, pic related was his actual quote. Still has yet to update the official sq42 website to "2027", but one could easily assume they are waiting for the 30 day refund period to pass after the recent DefenseCon sale to announce the delay.

>>2556106
nta but people have been saying that the issues still exist if the IC was spawned before the hotfix and the solution is to destroy and claim it.

>>2557623
oh you are right, he said After that - to 1.0 being after sq42.

On the other hand, kinda late to be launching sq42 before GTA6 - no marketing...

>spend a few weeks accruing ingame wealth to buy several things for group play
>Finally have enough money to outfit a small posse
>Accrue small posse
>Hotfix drops that breaks game even more after being in maintenance most of 90% of night and posse dissipates
>left alone in broken patch now with 1.5 mil aUEC of gear and ship guns
Bravo, CIG!

Should I just buy forza horizons 6 at this point? My steering wheel is starting to get dusty...

>>2558012
no, women shouldn't drive

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>ship instantly impounded as I fly into a18
>reclaim ship
>something goes wrong and now there's 2 of that ship in storage
>one good one bricked
>good one has all bricked components
>bricked one has all good components

>Game is going 150% smooth
>My dick is hard
>My ship is operating at peak capacity
>Flying in at 2000 m/s
>fold my wings and do the stanky leg while entering hanger
>prepare to deploy landing gear
>ship turns purple, explosion sound, instant 30 degree rotate into floor
>hit the ground runnin doin the stanky leg and take 30% damage.
>No more ship
Sheeeeeeit!

>>2557920
1.0 is so far away, i think 2035 is an optimistic estimate. We are missing dynamic serer meshing, entire star systems, planet tech v5, base buildung, research, exploration content, data running, passenger transport, player shops, tier 2-5 crafting, swimming, 9% wildlife is missing and potty gameplay. Oh and the story missions. Maybe 2040 is more accurate.

>>2559652
>Maybe 2040 is more accurate.
Unrealistic. At the current rate the game is unlikely to ever get done. Every system added needs "overhaul" after "overhaul". Each new system adds the same old "content" that is just the old with a fresh coat of paint and a new set piece for us to look at.
New systems are what was promised, yes, but what good are new systems when all it does is add a ton of real estate with nothing on them? There are enough planets, moons, and outposts for a full game right now, except the vast majority of them are not worth visiting because they are all copy-pasted and have nothing offer but the same old NPCs and shitty loot found anywhere else. People poke fun at how shitty the "exploration" in Starfield is, but even their copy-pasted outposts is much better designed and laid out than in SC.
The contracts? Still the most basic of fetch quests and kill quests, with little to dress them or mix them up a little. Of the less than a dozen or so "special content" contracts? Broken most of the time. Special events? Fetch and collection quests.
Bare minimums, everywhere, all with the promise of being "reworked in the future, which would again be another bare minimum that would require yet another rework, and so on.
Mobiglass, what nearly all interactions require and where they take place? Still garbage after all these years. It's a fucking UI, just move some things around, change some timers/scroll speed, and make it actually function like it should (social tab, navigation, ship services, etc.). Nope. Reworked and still riddled with bugs, and absolute garbage to use.
Now they rush to add systems to punish us for losing things, when much of the time it's the buggy game making us lose said things. Newly added item recovery system? Janky shit that doesn't work half the time.
The new system simply adds insult to injury when the game fucks us, which happens way too often; well-known issues and yet not been addressed for the longest time.

so you can't salvage other player's ship parts anymore? It was the best part of the profession. Come on mayne. How do we make salvage less fucking gay.

>>2562200
have you tried dismantling them for materials

>>2560073
It’s in Alpha.

>>2562794
alpha

>>2562200
All your salvaging has to be done to NPC's. Eventually you'll be able to unbrick components and weapons but that'll be in 6-12 months. For whatever reason the developers really hate salvage, they killed the economy loop for it with the salvage rework that turned it into a shitty clone of mining and then they killed scavenging ship parts with the insurance bricking system.

>>2562794
At year 25 this excuse will still be valid

>>2563147
I don't think they really care about salvaging, they're just incapable of stopping all of the duping exploits and salvage is collateral damage in their attempts to make dupes unprofitable.

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Nothing like enjoying my day off to play this wonderful game! The 4.8 experience is rather breath-taking!

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>>2563426
We are at year 13 of development of two parallel computer games and SC is still in Alpha. No need to play it at this stage unless you fully digest this fact. Many other games available that have been fully released and are not in the alpha testing stage.

>>2562794
>It’s in Alpha.
and that's all it'll ever be under current management.

Here I go again, into the contested zone.. I made it to hanger 30 last run and it was completely devoid of any loot at all, not even empty chests. Sad.

>>2563727
>starfarer
>14M
>buying the basic farer that has worse turret
LMAO

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>>2565072
minor game knowledge mistake lmbo

>>2565072
They are the commoners on global, they know not what they do. That server error recovered, and I ganked a player got a card, then my ship exploded when I got in it... thought I lost everything but actually was able to loot my body and get the supervisor card back. Now I'm hunting for the battle rifle AR. Last few loot runs I did, no loot spawned at all, not even boxes.

>>2565069
Same as qvl

>>2565115
oooooooooooooof yeah, and I'm supposed to be a Starfarer™ enjoyer, ill just procced to vault out the rear grantry with no suit, sorry guys
i remembered wrong it was 14m for base and 16m for military

Man, this game is like an apologetic narcissistic crazy gf, luring you into a sense of false confidence only to fuck you over in ways that just kill your motivation.

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No loot, once again.. just hanging in a corner like a fuckin monster with eyes glowing in the dark, waiting on the numbered keycard to print at this point. Gonna gank anything that moves, no npc's are spawning.....

>>2565242
>2 hours doing literally nothing
>star shitizen dweebs: YO THIS GAMEPLAY IS FYRE!!!!!!!

>we've fixed all the exploits!
Not even a week later.
>we need to change trading to be extremely restrictive to stop exploiters
This company is a fucking joke. They wiped a years worth of shit I farmed for without exploiting claiming every exploit had been plugged and it was all complete bullshit. Fuck CIG.

>>2565772
That was actually the longest I waited around in a few years, for about 12 min. I don't normally wait around, but cig has fucked up the servers so much, that loot is no longer spawning regularly or at all in some places, but those card printers in contested zones were still working. Didn't wanna leave empty handed. The particular one i was camping was on a 12 min timer since someone else had run through earlier.

The Game, Star Citiznen, is in Alpha Development Stage and subject to full server wipe at any time, with no notice due. There are hundreds of retail PC Games that have had their full 1.0 release for players to enjoy.

>>2565960
Its some kind of exploit, You can see it clearer in QVL.
You can find like piles of armor pieces there almost as if the exploiters empty every lootbox while at it.

What glitches/exploits do you guys know? I think I'm at the point past patience with CIG.

>squadron released
>does mediocre sales
>chris, sandy and erin leave the company
>massive layoffs at CIG
>push to 1.0 starts
>it's a complete rush job
>barely anything works
>servers are still a bloated retarded tangle that crashes every few days
>no full implementations of anything
>2028 game is complete
>CIG disbands

>>2566502
If you wanna do the most harm.
Remember when we used to drag hostile npc's to stations and planets to fight rmc duping at TDD.

I bet that hasn't been fixed.

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>>2559652
Agree
>>2560073
Thing is- as sucky it is: they are going steady and the corporate structure CIG has is sort of sustainable. 1.0 will probably come around 2035 to be optimistic.

>>2558370
BAHAHAHHA is this starfield?

>>2568149
Give the details anon, I never did that. What equipment do you need and how do you go about moving them?

>>2568836
Knock hostile npcs out (eg. Criminals), loot their gun off, maxlift them or drag or whatever to your ship. Fly to destination, take body out of ship, take it to destination (where you cannot tractorbeam, you can still drag) when you reach where you want them: Asop Terminals/Lobby, Hospital Lobby, anywhere.. you open their loot, give their gun back (or upgrade them to boomtube, pulverizer - they dont run out of ammo) revive them with a medpen (right click) and they will start shooting at everyone (including you) and players cant shoot back due to armstice. (Note that security npcs can shoot back at them in theory).
The most disruptive npc drop was during xenothreat someone pulled an npcs to lobby of the event station, no security at stations either.

>>2569511
Knock out = middle mouse button.

>>2569511
Probably optimal way to do it:
1. Obtain some really nasty guns like pulverizers and boomtubes, volt weapons (and medpens)
2. Go to target location orbit
3. Take a local mercenary ot bounty thats fps mission
4. Go to mission location and knock out 4 ish guys, take them on your kidnap van
5. Fly to target location
6. Drop a guy at lobby, give gun, revive
7. Rinse and repeat (lobbies are bottlenecks, but people can run past..)

Reason why you should activate the npcs immediately even though it makes it harder for you to drop more is because players can mess with your plans until you revive them.
Like everything, this too is easier with a friend.

Technically, i dont know if cig has ever said that this is an exploit but with some common sense they might not appreciate it either. You can easily lock out a whole server from all home locations on all systems.

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>>2569539
I remember when people initially started doing that to stop people duping RMC during 3.19 (iirc) at the Area 18 commodity trading terminals during Invictus. We figured, "Why not do this at stations?" and we did such a thing at the Pyro gateway stations during the last XenoThreat global event they ran in patch 3.22. The reason it's so effective at stations is because they have no FPS guards, but beware, the station turrets will aggro at your ship because the knocked-out outlaw NPC triggers them.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3SiS3CoTGY

>Technically, i don't know if cig has ever said that this is an exploit but with some common sense they might not appreciate it either. You can easily lock out a whole server from all home locations on all systems.

Zac, the guy in charge of the FPS side of SC, has acknowledged this and encouraged people to send reports if they ever run into it, but theoretically wouldn't this be an easy fix? I mean, I don't trust CIG to have fixed it anyways, so go nuts.

>>2568149
That got fixed fucking ages ago. Goddamn tourists.

>>2570071
>that gotfixed long ago
It was done at 3.24.3, 2 years ago.
But it was never officially fixed, i will test it today.

>>2570071
We are frens here. Reddit is for people like you.

>>2570303
>frens
Nah youre the one that belongs on reddit faggot.

>>2570340
Dirty thirdie got his feelings hurty. You thirdies are the only people ass blasted enough to talk shit with malice on an anonymous board. Enjoy your squalor.

>>2570444
>fren
>childrens rhymes
You're 100% a fucking tourist. Fuck off back where you came from jeet.

>>2570180
If it worked there would be at least 1 hostile NPC in every major station 24/7. Use your head.

>>2570651
shut up thirdie, keep bumping the thread

>>2570700
>/vm/
>bumping the thread
Lmao every post you're proving how much of a street shitting tourist you are.

>>2570709
Verbal diarrhea flows from your mouth, thirdie. Nothing you post has substance

>>2570733
nta but you're clearly a tourist

>>2570783
>tourist
I've baked several threads in the past. Please kindly fuck off back to your anime gf gacha games. Also, ywnbaw

>>2570822
>cares about bumping on the deadest board on 4chan
>frens
>nursery rhymes
>BUT I BAKED THREADS!
Lmao 100% tourist hahahaha! Go back to r/jeetmeansvictory, shitskin. Embarrassing brown eye behaviour.

>>2570832
>more contentless babble

>>2570832
Wouldn't be surprised if it's a wannabe namefag.

>>2570842
It's some jeet redditfag trying to make his corp the thread default or something.
He's been shitting the thread up for the last 3 weeks.

>>2570842
>>2570848
>samefagging
You are a sad individual. If you have something to say about SC, spit it out. Otherwise, you have to go back.

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>>2570881
>projection
You've been shitting the thread up like you do the streets of delhi with samefagging for weeks. Kill yourself tourist brown.

>>2570904
>thirdie learned what projection is as an insult, but is ironically doing it himself

>>2570925
>YOURE SAMEFAGGING!
>no you're projecting here's proof
>IM COPING!
Yup. You're brown and you lost. Kill yourself unironically while you push everyone who's been in this thread for years out so you can keep replying to yourself.

>>2570940
>mental illnees: the post

>>2570657
>Remember how there used to be one hostile npc in every station?
No, I don't. Use your head.

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>>2570904
>that color scheme
Checks out. The Indian has learned to cry out as he strikes you.

>>2570904
>samefagging for weeks

You said this in the last thread right?

Your samefag claims are just not true, not sure where you're getting that idea from. I feel that SCG is full of arguments recently because of you.

What gives the most ship components and money? Salvage missions or standard combat missions? Moth vs Corsair basically.

>>2571919
Salvage is supposedly kill. Best way to earn money in game is to run gilly flight school missions under the merc tab. It's in Stanton, and there are a pool of missions at each planet system. IE, if you do Gilly mission 7 (Most profitable and doable solo with heavy fighter), it's around 254K aUEC. Rotate between Microtech, ArcCorp, Crusader, Hurston taking the mission at each location, and you can make a million fairly quickly.

If you really wanna salvage, scrape RMC from hulls. Look for ship graveyards and go to town. Construction materials is too much of a pain in the ass and not worth the money now. You have to refine Construction materials form construction rubble when you break a ship.

yo the railen is coming???? that true?

>>2572403
Yes and variant.
Probably Rail'em

>>2572403
>>2572804
The only question, is will it be broke? The itonclad fiasco has been kinda funny to watch unfold. Sucks because the ironclad is an s-tier ship.

>>2572960
>The only question, is will it be broke?
of course it will

but it will look cool and thats what matters in the end

>>2572960
Does the RAFT still work? If so the Railen will probably work fine, it's just an external cargo freighter after all. Railen isn't bringing anything new to the table in terms of mechanics or systems that would cause stuff to break.

>>2574984
Never underestimate CIG's ability to fuck up

>>2574984
It's not so much about the tech introduced; it's what already exists breaking, like, for example, the Moth was just a MOLE with salvage heads instead of mining heads, and it was broken as shit on release. 4.8 has proven CIG cannot keep up with the spaghetti they've been sidelining for SQ42 all these years.

>>2574984
all the floating shit and animations for floating shit will not doubt be broken asf on release

>>2571976
Can you actually tow a whole ship with shit inside back to your hangar using an SRV or are the devs huge faggots and the whole thing despawns?

>>2572960
>s-tier ship
what else do you consider s-class tier?

Concepts included

>>2575993
cant confirm or deny.
But probably it despawns, tow to your mobile base instead.

>>2576019
Just off top of my head in no order specifically from a functional stance(assuming no bugs) and not specific to pvp or pve
>gladius
>arrow
>constellation series
>Sabre
>prowler utility (stealth with big cargo)
>corsair
>m80
>guardian
>mantis
>buccaneer (its cheap and useful for pirating)
>cutlass black
>golem ox (specifically servicing something like an Idris as a supply ship)

Mobile base s-tier
>Idris series
>ironclad assault

>>2575993
I think you get fines for illegally towing or some shit in armistice. I've never fucked around with towing vehicles.

>>2576296
A few I'd add to this list
>Perseus
Only multicrew combat ship truly worth using, and the only one you can actually get people to crew, as evidenced by the number abandoned on pads all over the verse. (Which leads to the only drawback, mandatory docking, which rarely works.)
>Starlancers
Cap ship feel at a fraction of the price and crew requirement. MAX has solid cargo for a $250 ship and TAC has a medbay, snub bay, halfway decent cargo, and is surprisingly a solo combat monster with a giant pilot capacitor if you switch the turrets to ballistic.
>Hermes
Ridiculous cargo for the price, and arguably the best tractor beam in the game.

>>2576449
I wanted to mention the perseus, but I don't have personal experience with it. Same goes for the others in your list, but I know a lot of people praise the ships you listed.

>>2576449
Starlancer max's cargo is retarded and a massive pain in the ass to load and unload both the back area and the 2 areas on the sides
I do love how they look though

>>2576607
I do agree that the elevator setup is kind of obnoxious, it's a lot better if you back the ship up to the lift and use a Maxlift or an ATLS instead of the multitool though, or if you've got multiple crew as the design is really intended for. (And actually it'd probably be peak with a full crew since 3 people can load their own sections without getting in each other's way.) It's also sometimes useful if you're taking multiple cargo contracts with different destinations since you can easily segregate loads.

Really though I just love the interior, it's beautifully detailed and packed with features and QoL stuff, and really gives you that cap ship feeling without being so impractically huge.

>>2576296
>>2576449
Perseus is best multicrew ship right now but i have no doubt it will be useless once its weapons get even the slightest nerf.
Polaris on the other hand is soulless shit but its a really good mobile base. Comparison with Idris leaves idris winning but Idris has significant flaw in that its an ass to navigate and traverse.

>>2576296
Hull-A

>>2576296
This hurts me to say as a Drake fan, but Ironclad Assault is not a proper base ship or very good at it.
Ignoring its bugs it does not have a medbed, instantly forcing you to have a shit tier bed on a vehicle taking space, bricking and bugging around.
Its also completely helpless on its own, but so is carrack from the actual base ship list.

>>2576789
>once its weapons get even the slightest nerf.
I'm not sure that'll happen, they have to at least maintain some idea that there's a counter to the bigger capital ships, and if anything it's actually gotten buffed by the armor changes recently.
I have a Polaris as well and actually just did a TSG in a friend's last night. I like the ship but it's much harder to crew and has a lot more issues just due to its size and claim/rearm costs.

>>2576803
It's hard to know because it's so fucking broken, but I think the ICA will be a good mobile base for industrial shit, just not for combat. I'm also not as hung up on medbeds though, I find that I get fucked over by them far more often than saved, though that would be changed if your spawn would revert to the last med center you were at instead of your damn home location.

>>2576867
Thats also due to low tier beds, t1 range of 50km (with no indication to you) is a surprise i always seem to forget.

>>2576867
Polaris is in a weird spot right now, easily the most expensive ship with huge mismatch in turret arcs and power. But it still deserves its spot as second best base ship in the game. Its mainly becausr the difference downwards is so huge, tac and carrack are so much smaller that they are statwise on a different level. As for main standout feature of polaris.. its of course the t... tier 2 medbeds x4.

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>>2576803
tbqh, mobile-base gameplay is unfeasible unless you are multicrewing with one person staying on the ship at all times or keeping it within non-QT distances. For me, being able to load up a nursa tucked off in some corner and a m80 on the ship is a huge win. If they fix the bugs for the ironclad (HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA) it'll make a great loot ship for pirating too. It's 100% more maneuvrable than the idris.

Really though, the ironclad reminds me of either the Bebop from Cowboy bebop (throw in a few snub ships), or a mobile garage from Armored Core V/VI.

>>2576917
>Thats also due to low tier beds, t1 range of 50km (with no indication to you) is a surprise i always seem to forget.
For me it's more that the ship gets stored or destroyed or the medbay otherwise becomes inaccessible, usually due to a bug, and then my spawn is back to my home location half an hour away from wherever I was. I've given up setting spawn on ships and just do the closest station instead since at least it's reliable and the flights back usually aren't horrible.

I'd say the Polaris's main standout is the hangar and cargo bay, which puts it above things like the Percy for certain stuff. If only ship services worked reliably it'd be amazing. It's crippled by how often you need to claim it due to bugs (having used one quite a bit recently, most often because it either won't dock, or gets stuck to the docking port and then the game eats it when you try to store and respawn it) and the eye-watering cost of claim+rearm though.

>>2576929
>it'll make a great loot ship for pirating too
This is the real dream for my org, which was basically formed with an explicit focus on loot-oriented piracy and particularly pirating pirates.

>>2571492
Look at the wickedness of that horrid structure, truly these people were raped by demons from space thousands of years ago and are trying to recreate that trauma to this day

>>2576977
Yeah, well I've lost some 10m auec by now on polaris so you are right. Game is not stable enough for it atm.

>>2577014
Everyone is welcome to my bar at Freeport, that's my org dream.

>>2576434
if you attempt to tow a vehicle with its shields up (in stanton) you receive a warning and continued towing results in a fine and crimestat. However with the new bricking system the moment a ship is bricked the shield generator goes offline and thus can be freely towed, even in an armistice zone.

>>2578797
Pyro wins best system award again.

>>2578797
>>2579130
With this info, you could probably hang around pyro gateways and look for ship graveyards. I've seen them a few times, where the jump is glitched and it just deposits ships in a single spot. Another anon suggested dropping a pulse in space as a marker, you could do that once you find a graveyard, then salvage/tow all the vehicles you want. Just board the vehicle, hit right alt + k to unlock ports, pull the generator or shut it down, and try towing into the gateway station. This might be feasible in 4.8.1 but you might run into problems trying to store anything in the freight elevators.

>>2576434
In the SRV, last patch, if you set the tractor beam and left the turret, it would cancel the fee timer as the system would no longer think a player was available to fine.