A thread to discuss Embark's hit game, Arc Raiders.
game seems to be dying for now. Hopefully the big update in October will bring back the glory of November-February
embark killed it
>>2543213>down since marchYeah seems about right. I wonder what the floor will be, because I'm not one to really trust game updates to SAVE the population or make it 300k or something. The Finals seems to be chugging along just fine with only a meager 10k average here and there.
I don't understand why so many players left.
>>2543416what is there not to understandyou mix pvpers and pvers togetherboth are unhappy
>>2543460but for the first 5 months people liked the tension, the betrayals, etc
>>2543416people called it early, not too manu progression time sinks. you complete benches, rooster and then what? you did the game. all that is left is to pvp.
>>2543416Wallhackers are an issue apparently. Not unique to Arc Raiders, but there's some evidence they don't care.Streamers (I know) like Burnt Peanut said the Devs gave them phone numbers and to reach out to them about any issues. Burnt Peanut texted them to tell them about repeat offender wallhack/aimbotters and were left on read.At that point a lot of them dropped the game for Rust and other games they can kind of control.
>>2543688>Streamers (I know) like Burnt Peanut said the Devs gave them phone numbers and to reach out to them about any issues. Burnt Peanut texted them to tell them about repeat offender wallhack/aimbotters and were left on read.yeah thats insane. itd be one thing if they never did that, but to give the big streamers their phone number, only to not give a shit about the most egregious hackers and cheaters. no wonder tfue left.with all those millions youd think theyd hire at least one janny to watch the big streamers and quickly ban all the repeat offenders on the streams but no.
>>2544298All the tranny-coded shit they did never sat right with me. Not surprised to find out they are shitting the bed with this.Seems similar to Arrowhead, they stumbled into a hit and have no idea what to do with it.I wonder if these devs secretly hope for a Concord situation so they can collect unemployment and not have to do anything.
>>2543416PvEers playing shopping mall slot machine simulator have finally grown boredPvPers are sick of hackers. Even the hackers are sick of other hackers there are so many. You can read them complaining about it on hack dev forumsPvE is sick of nerf focused swede balancingPvP balancing doesn't even happen. Took months to nerf trigger nadesNew content is mostly a map made of reused assets and a couple useless trinketsDevs have the core gameplay of something fun but clearly no cohesive vision/direction for it
>>2544428what is tranny-coded in Arc?
>>2543488And then they got tired of it. Not weird at all.
>>2547395>PvP balancing doesn't even happen. Took months to nerf trigger nadesYeah it is so frustrating. The shitty pvp balance had been obvious since before launch and the swedes still needed half a year to nerf the biggest offenders. I don't have years in the game industry and as a game designer but even I knew that all that was needed to do was make torro 3 pump shields and slow the fire rate. Why they needed months to come to that realization is beyond me.Doesn't help that the new weapons they introduce are worse than their lower counterparts. Dolobra, Canto, Rascal, all so awful. Worse than the options are tier below them.
>>2543190>>2543416well maybe the retards shouldnt announce maintenance mode when you have over 100k players daily
>>2547833The gay robot. The Sweet Baby Inc approved ugly ass female characters.
>>2543542>resource sinks would have saved the game!>embark adds more resource sinks>game keeps shitting itselfyour taste is shit
>>2549312look at tarkov, you can level up hideout, traders, factions, multiple high levels that require certain keys to unlock. there is a proper sense of progression as you go through the levels.in arc, you spam stella for the highest loot map in the game, complete your 3 benches and you finished the game. there is no proper sense of progression as you move through levels, you can immediately go to stella and make out like a bandit. some grey weapons are better than blue weapons. gear is all fucked power level wise.what resource sinks? the trader? oh yes that is very fun, spend 200k in arc parts, no you cant gradually turn it in, it has to be all at once for 12 more stash slots. or maybe 400k for a shitty skin that nobody wants or 3 rare ass ducks you need to spam bird city that pops up at 11 in the morning for a... power rod which you will be able to make anyways because you have level 3 benches by the time you unlock the trader. there hasnt been a legit resource sink added to the game unless you think needing to craft a wolfpack with a rocketeer driver counts. it does not.
>>2549348dont forget the stash goes away on expedition, idk about other people, but why would I waste 200k when I'm planning to do the expeditionI'm not even buying expedition vault slots, because knowing embark, they are just going to lock again once you take the item out, and you have ro repurchase itif I'm wrong, then cool, its something to work for, but otherwise it all seems like a waste, I already have 316 slots from expedition, and I play the game enough that I bought it a second time for a mule alt
>>2547395>sick of nerf focused swede balancingpvp is too lethal and pve is too easy, nerfing the player seems to be the most obvious course of action
>>2543213TEN YEARS
>>2549451I did the stash upgrade because its easier to farm arcs with more slots
>>2549451What else are you doing with those 200k arc parts tho?
>>2550371saving them in case they release something "exclusive" with the trader
wow hullcracker still absolutely shits on big arc goddamn
>>2550483I dont know why they havent nerfed it yet, it's effectively killing the game
>rank 17 when I logged off last night>rank 17 when I logged in 24 hours laterNever seen that happen before
welpI'm probably fuckedno way am I going to melee the queen and everyone above me has scores looking like they did that
>>2550664what do their scores look like?
>>2550722
>>2550563I was first place for 2 days after going from 0 to 9k in daredevil 1. Also weird. Nobody is truly playing this game anymore.
>Running to extract >See guy across the way from me seemingly running to extract too, no gun in hand>See him get domed twice and downed>Blue Gate extract near the warehouse, guy hiding in those small little huts>Down him>Had hullcracker, 2 anvils and defibs and a looting mk3 cautionaryManaged to defib the other guy, and some third guy came along wanting to play sheriff but we both left. What a weird loadout though, had a total PvE loadout and yet for whatever reason started shooting the other guy. Makes me wonder if maybe the guy I saved was the agressor but I wasn't going to ask politely if he started it or not but that PvE loadout he had made me have second thoughts. Why bring that into a raid if youre just going to randomly shoot some guy running down the hill to extract?
>>2548933They really don't understand where the problems lie, like Arrowhead. I'm guessing they opportunistically PvP on mild-PvP lobbies with a lot of camping etc. The equivalent to the helldivers devs playing on difficulty 4Also, what the hell was the second kettle nerf. Busted OP for like 4 months, they nerf it with the stitcher finally and make them appropriate for their tier. Then they have like some deranged urge to show the community they're listening so they nerf it again to bb gun tier
>>2549283>see robot>think of gay sexfuck off, lance is the best trader and npc in the game
Please put /arg/ in the subject so my filters pin it to the catalog thx
>>2550036Well i agree. But that's what the carebears complain about. And, as much as I do think they don't matter, the topic was the game dying.
>>2551702>it's the carebears' fault the game is dyinglmao what
>>2551756that is not what he said at all
>Spawn fresh lobby Bird City>Open first container in front of me>Comp 2 BPThis BP system is so unfun and aids. Who the hell thought id'd be fun to have one of the most important items in the game be complete RNG? No strategy other than>on the off chance there is a special modifier that increases your chance to find BPs by 2%, spam that and just open a million containers bro. isnt that fun? maybe you get lucky on the first one, maybe the millionth one. isnt gambling cool!?I was in two night raids before this, nothing. First container on Bird City, immediate BP. That isnt fun. I did not have a fun journey on my way to the BP I just got lucky. They need a better system than this.
>>2550779he probably already killed one guy and took his hullcracker and anvil
so how cooked is the game going to be come octoberis it even going to survive summer? there can't possibly be any players left in 4 months
>>2551756>entitled fags in combination with retard devs ruining gameswell, you're not entirely wrong.
>>2551702hd2 birthed a wave of entitled faggots bullying devs into submission to ruin games for their short-sighted dopamine injection so I do believe that they should be told to fuck off entirely in their attempts to infest other games.almost every issue can be tracked down to separating pve and pvp both literally and balance-wise.most importantly the cycle of loot is fucked because it is essentially free with nowhere to put it, pvp was supposed to slow the progression and create purpose for lootand what do people do in a game about loot where loot is meaningless? they leave.
hell divers 2 killed his faggot dad and raped his retarded mom
>>2552600go back
>>2551652White knighting for a gay robot, incredible
>>2552538I freaking hate the hd2 faggotsthey keep whinging about their terrible devs yet they keep playing their shit gamethen they bring their shit attitudes into other game spaces projecting their insecurities embark are lazy faggots, but they haven't actively "ruined" the game by making nonsensical changeseverything balancing update they've done has been for the better, it's just that they're so disgustingly slow at doing anything at alland yeah, the existence of ABMM made loot entirely meaningless, only so that the retarded gaymerdads can play their grocery list shopping simulator and then wonder why the game is dying when the gameplay loop is completely solved by just NOT engaging with the gameand these fucking entitled dadfaggots are so delusional that they believe that LEANING INTO the pve side of the game would somehow save it, when the core game isn't even built for that kind of gameplay GOD I hate these faggots that can't think objectively about game design because they are so blinded by their own personal experience to such a point that they don't even care about how mechanics work in tandem
>>2552101maybe yeah, but odd to only bring anvils and looting cautionary to go killing. usually its freekit or something better than just an anvil 2 at the most.
>>2553076I quit after the Cyberstan reveal/debacle. I also found the PSN review bombing cringe as hell tho. I also quit Arc Raiders after 2 games. Dadgamers have aged out of our time being wasted by rats hiding by extracts. I get the PvE depriving you of prey, but they probably wouldn't be playing anyways.Enjoy your tranny game.
a pve game completely mindfucked the two most retarded gorilla niggers in this general
>>2553168>pve game>daily whining about getting shot in the back by other people
>>2551691sorry bro, next thread someone can put in a proper general description, may take a while as these threads move slowly
Embark took the money and ran
>>2553199>daily whiningarc raiders barely gets daily posts
>>2553076>GOD I hate these faggots that can't think objectively about game design because they are so blinded by their own personal experience to such a point that they don't even care about how mechanics work in tandemthe iq of average retard isn't high enough to think about those thingsit's literally>winning good>losing bad
>>2553398Marathon, Helldivers 2, Arc raiders and Sony lost. Nintendo won
>>2553420reminder that paul is a braindead faggot
>>2553398>actually; winning bad, losing good!
>>2553452>making an example of himself for free
https://www.reddit.com/r/ArcRaiders/comments/1txayiv/as_someone_with_700_hours_in_the_game_i_feel_like/>read comments>it's almost entirely retards saying OP got his money's worth and to stop crying for more content
>>255356110 year plan btw
>>2553561>top comment>"just make sure you dont treat this like a job then you'll stop having fun"fucking losers man
>>2552538Yeah the abmm will be the death of the game. It was someone's kneejerk short term solution to keep around 10 million gamer dads who bought something they didn't understand, but in the end I do think it'll seal the games untimely death. It just undermines too much of the game's design. It's good that Embark is sort of ignoring them beyond adding abmm, and their balancing is generally good though slow as fuck, but the damage is done.That said the helldiver devs are morons who can barely play their own game and the super helldive players balance complaints are legitimate. Arrowhead seems almost belligerent in their ensuring 3/4 of gear is useless at high tiers and balancing exclusively for difficulty 5 instead. The players still playing are probably retarded though, yeah.
Unironically, raider tool durability would have saved the game
helldivers lives rent free in these faggots heads
>muh helldiversI'm a carebear and don't give a shit about helldivers. If you're a pvpnigger consider killing yourself.
>>2553772Embark does pvp way better on The Finals, these retards are crying over not being able to get cheap kills and got filtered by a fucking sony pve game of all things
>i'm not retarded, i'm the victimit's both.
>>2553720>Arrowhead seems almost belligerent in their ensuring 3/4 of gear is useless at high tiers and balancing exclusively for difficulty 5 instead.Uhh, the game has a polar opposite problem, shit is so easy you literally can't cripple yourself enough by any means available for D10 to become even close to "hard".The gameplay was dumbed down to a point where if you're not a drooling retard you're probably already asleep 1/3rd into the mission.
>/arg/ - hell divers 2 generalincredible work fags
>>2553815drawing comparisons is better than whining about rats for the 20th time at this point
>>2553825You're right, I'd rathet hear those two faggots complain about hell divers for the 100th time instead
>>2553720>Yeah the abmm will be the death of the gamenahnot having it killed marathon, and now they're struggling to make a pve mode
>>2553858they're really just pointing out player retardation seeping everywhere, divers is just the best example there is>>2553863marathon had a shitload of issues, abmm wouldn't do anything
>>2553720>Yeah the abmm will be the death of the game.ABMM is fine. A lot of people are not in pure PvE lobbies so they won't have the loot and shit be ruined. The real problems as been explained in the thread are numerous>Slow as fuck to update balancing issues, especially the pvp side of things>Content that just wasnt hitting (new arc being glorified redesigns instead of something unique, new weapons and tools sucking ass, canto, golden shotgun, the zap placement)>progression is out of whack, no clear progression path >not too much content>no deep resource timesinks that feel worth it, durability stuff doesnt count because you basically are punished for trying to use your weapons and playing the game not fun, benches are a good sink because you pour time and resources into them and you get better access to equipment. but that is it, past the benches what else is there to do? not much.>cheaters out the ass no explanation needed hereso as fun and fluid as the base gameplay is, a game about looting has the loot economy out of whack, with weak content additions and cheaters is going to lose players. lets hope the october adds some good weapons, some unique arc enemies, they do something about cheaters, the skill tree rework isnt a meme and the new map is good. the game needs it.
>>2553931>ABMM is fine. A lot of people are not in pure PvE lobbies so they won't have the loot and shit be ruined.there are people literally begging me to shoot them in a third of my mixed lobbies, shit is not alright at all.the system itself isn't evil per se, but it's the fact that it's being used for segregation instead of moderation.
>>2553992>segregation is... le bad!
>>2554149retarded nigger
>>2553992>there are people literally begging me to shoot them in a third of my mixed lobbies, shit is not alright at all.thats how people are, even people who camp you and lose the fight will beg for their lives instead of saying GG. if ABMM is removed tomorrow the far bigger and more pressing issues would still be there. augs feeling like poo is a more important issue than ABMM. no endgame would still be there without ABMM. cheaters would still be there.
>>2554262sure, but you can't fix endgame when abmm makes loot irrelevant, no matter how much content there will be it's gonna dry out in days (or even hours) due to abmmthe only thing you can do is throw obscene requirements at players like the new trader which will just become boring because it's grind for the sake of grind, a bandaid to a core issue.every other complaint still stands, but those are minor to how severely this one thing undermines the entire gameplay loop
>>2554291>when abmm makes loot irrelevantthats not abmm, loot is irrelevant because the loot is irrelevant. every other aug would still be shit because of survivor is just superior on all fronts. heavies would still be a bad option. canto would still suck ass. every legendary gun would still suck except for the jupiter. there would still be nothing to do after you complete your benches. i could load into stella even though its a pvp hellscape and shove important things up my ass 30 seconds into the match and suicide. trials would still be retarded and gay. abmm is not the root issue. its not like a majority of the player base are in friendly pve lobbies either, its a small minority. the majority are in some type of mixed or straight pvp lobbies and people still left because there is an issue with the gear and progression in the game.
>>2554344i'm not saying that augs don't need a rework or shields don't need buffs.i'm saying that the only people who are still progressing in the system are people who frequently pvp, because that's the only loot sink and friction mechanism designed to play the "loss" part of the loot loop.getting rid of the only loss mechanism in what's supposed to be a loot carousel is as close as it gets to a fundamental problem.you can clearly see that everyone who was even as much as friendly-adjacent is just flat out gone because they received no pushback to their progress.can you supplement the loot loop with other "loss" mechanisms? yes you can, but it's pretty much undeniable that death by players is the only one currently available.and even if other issues are to be fixed, abmm will still serve to polarize wealth groups practically killing the mid-tier equipment layer; fuck it's happening even now when people regularly "go to farm" before pvping, hell I did it too, and so did everyone I know."most people don't do that" is a crazy statement when we have people begging for death.
ok i farmed this trial insteadthis should keep me safe
>>2554503nevermindunless everyones done farming
>>2554472but it really isnt the biggest issue. tarkov has two distinct modes, actually separate and the pve mode still allows hundreds of hours and many people enjoy it, so much that nikita kneeled to their demands and released an official version of pve. at least in arc a person can still kill you in the most carebear of lobbies.abmm is removed, people adjust and it takes them a couple days or a week later to finish the benches. ok then what? nothing, which is the bigger problem. no factions to level up, no traders, the skill tree sucks and doesnt allow distinct characters, trials suck, BP hunting suck. cheaters. why would i ever use the hullcracker or kill the queen? abmm removed tomorrow doesnt solve that. people dying a little more to advance the nothing progression of workbenches and the timeline of finishing benches is pushed out some days but the game is fundamentally the same. you can watch any number of streamers who pvp on the wipe and they get endgame loot and finish their benches in a day. theyre playing in the most cheater infested lobbies and they still manage to get pink gear in record time. no abmm doesnt change that for them. its a more basic problem with how loot is distributed, how the progression of going from grey to yellow works, the BP hunting, the gear itself being out of balance, not abmm.
>>2554731it's not the biggest issue but it's one of the biggest issues out there.tarkov's pve is completely segregated from the pvp side, so it's not even comparable.if the devs are (at least trying to) go for true mixed lobbies then even a completely segregated mode would be a detriment because you need a wide variety of people for it to function from the most pacifist dudes to the most seasoned killers; it becomes more about adapting your playerbase than outright filtering them by tags.every other issue i agree with already, there's not much to say.
>>2554503just solo the matriarch
>>2555764I dont have the patience, I'm not too butthurt if I get kicked out of hotshot, I just know I'll be stuck in DDIII since i don't really farm that hard
got lure blueprint from quest and picked up the deadline blueprint from stellai have solved arc raiders
>>2556321Is lure a trick for putting deadlines on things?
>>2556340it makes it very very easy for bastions and bombas. sometimes you get unlucky and the bastion snipes it but as long as you throw the lure in a good spot and throw it getting as close as possible to the big arc, you should have more than enough time to plant the deadline without it turning on you and killing you.
What did metaforge mean by this?https://metaforge.app/arc-raiders/needed-items
>>2557679noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
>>2554503>>2554508ayyyI might be safe another weekheard future trials are super gay though
>>2557679either their on old shit, where you needed to grind 3milor they datamined the 1million damage challenge is 3milmy guess is the first one, that like a catch up mechanic if you were too poor to buy skillpoints your first expedition
>do 4 queen runs >do my daily missions >let's try to do a trial >10 minutes left >not even 1 star, but whatever >let's extract >2 pvp players teaming up in a solo lobby hunt me down >can recycle all my gear and loot before they down me>matriarch is next on spaceport >let's pick an even cheaper loadout, I have a bad feeling >instantly killed after walking out of the spawn Playerbase is way down. I was luckily only doing the computer trial, but it makes sense that they put more pvp players in my supposedly low abmm lobbies because there just aren't enough players.I don't region lock my stuff and no cross-play off either.
>>2561176yeah at night the pvp'ing gets worse
>>2561222Nowadays. Wasn't a problem when the game was more popular and there were fewer maps. A "quick play" option would solve this. Not sure that they care tho.
According to reddit and meta forge. They datamine stuff or something? I don't know
>>2561241Oops, forgot the image.Next week's trials.
>>2561251not so bad except for snitches
>harvester event>Played pve rounds all night Let's see if I get killed
>only me and a guy with an equalizer there >he gets downed and just leaves with a hatch key At least I was not killed by other players
>only one guy with an anvil Fucking hell. Everyone's done with the queen.
>cross-play off >my region >Full of people with energy weapons and deffibing each other weird.So automatic matchmaking is just fucking me, what?
>try cross-play on and automatic region again >Only two other people with shit weapons Wtf?
>>2561241If they can datamine trials any way they can datamine the trader?
>>2561986I found it on a reddit about arc raider trials and didn't see anything about the trader. They might see next week's trader's inventory and don't care enough to tell everyone else what it is. No idea
>>2562066I think I'm ready for the trader next week, how about you guys?Gun value is inflated with attachments, but I think I'll buy everything on day one except for a new skin potentially at 200k with lower value arc parts(only have 158k, but it's because I have no stash space anymore). And the other cosmetic item which might need specific items. I hope they let us increase our stash again.
what is genuinely wrong with r*dditorshttps://www.reddit.com/r/ArcRaiders/comments/1tz8osw/does_all_this_frustration_about_the_loss_of_many/
>>2562426I don't get it. Who's wrong here? You clearly have a reddit account. Go back and tell them that there.
there was a guy asking how someone got into one of those bunkers on spaceport without breaching the doorsguess this is howhttps://www.reddit.com/r/ArcRaiders/comments/1tybwt5/nice_alternative_if_you_guys_do_not_want_to_spend/
>>2562426>pvecucks leave as they realize their playstyle is not sustainable for anyone involvedvery much expected...?
>>2562426Sounds like the carebear version of that fag here that wants everything to break faster and put blue shields on everything
>>2562811>flanking is now an actual choiceidgi
i'm going to the gym fuck off
>>2562819you sound upset
>>2562658>>pvecucks leave as they realize their playstyle is not sustainable for anyone involvedHow the fuck is that when you got from that post?
>>2561746>>2561626>>2561565>>2561549>>2561488so did you kill the queen?
>>2562548seen it where they jump then crouch, but i havent seen that slide into jump? or is it slide into dive?
>>2562816Yeah, its a lazy way to make sure its buffed until they actually rework the perks or whatever but at least its a legit choice now.
>>2563070>functional but could be betterthat's what i'm sayingalso that fag is braindead, durability makes even less sense than it did before tier and progression wise, but people aren't complaining because it benefits their retardation.
playercount would be saved if arc added more chores
>kill a queen achievement unlocked by 7.7% of steam playersbrutal
Is the stomping in Speranza going to continue all the way until October? Probably just part of the menu now.
>>2563456this but unironically. people love chores and stuff to grind for.
I beat the fuckin shit out of a matriarch. That was fun.
>>2563611don't say that, he might get upset over people having stuff to do
>>2563675i still think they should add durability to the raider tool the way people are scoring on melee damage trials
>>2563541>Is the stomping in Speranza going to continue all the way until October?Is the stomping supposed to be the turbine landing on the ground and injecting its metal pipe into the ground? What a disappointment the end of the roadmap was. It was called Escalation, so you'd think we were escalating towards something. Instead all this teasing about >something big is coming this wayfrom the rumblings, the UFO lights in the hurricane, how the hurricane is hiding something, all those cutscenes about this potential big arc on the way and its revealed to be the turbine. Which floats around, lands and then floats around again.Talk about being blue-balled. All that build up and its just>haha jk, theres nothing. btw if you do want to reach climax, you will have to wait for 4 months, october 31st at 23:59.
>>2563751>is upset
>>2563528that's getting the final blow thoughever
>>2554508oh no
>>2563541All of Toledo is affected, I think
>>2562988A couple of times, but never when I set matchmaking to cross-play off and region to automatic. Fuck me for wanting low ping, right?
Guys...you still love me right?
>>2564844/bfg/ tried to warn you about him but you wouldn't listen and chose to spit in our face instead. Now look where trusting him has gotten you.
ruh roh. I cannot fathom people paying cash to cheaters for items in a game. complete subhumans
>a couple of good PvE runs>my sixth sense is tingling again >let's just do a naked run >Downed from a guy on a rooftop using a renegade 4I still extracted. So I'm in pure PvP hell. He got nothing out of it.The playerbase is fucking dead. The trick that I found earlier to get better PvE lobbies doesn't work anymore.Changing regions didn't let me start a match at all. The timer just stops.
>>2565020Turd world pc players do this all the time. In every game. Masturd race of poorfag cheaters.
>>2565143>>my sixth sense is tingling againfor me its queue length, I've gotten so used to short queues that I can sense something wrong when its a little too longprobably the fact that my brain associates that with my dying literally every time to some rat whenever that happens, its given me a sixth sense
>>2564844>>2564883He's a boardmember at Nexon now, by the way
tfw on track to hit cantina legend
>>2565595fug, didn't make it
fuuuuuuuckoh well, I didn't really care for the outfit, but I'm sure I'll be stuck here for the next 4 weeks or whatever
>trader yesterday: 1 day left>trader today: 1 day left>trader in 3 hours: countdown from 24 hoursthats so annoying
>>2552712nta but how the hell did you conclude he's gay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Flh76GxMpBMthis game really is on its last legs
>>2567516Yeah. I wanted to aim for cantina legend and thought if I try and copy valiate's videos I could have a shot with the current playercount, but I haven't had the drive to just hop on and farm gear for trials like before.
>>2543213Having 35yo losers crying and calling you names because you shot them in a shooter gets boring really fast. PVE whiny bitches will kill this game
>>2568432the pvp is actual garbage, a bunch of homeless retards that couldn't cut in a pure pvp game
>>2568499No. I'm very good at PvP. I pretended to be friendly and waited until he was looting something and then I downed him, a robot killed me after that, can't ambush those things. I'm very good at PvP.
I hope the trials this week are easy
>>2568666>shredder>ground based enemydid they change that? could have sworn they were considered flying
I can't find anything that will let me repair my dumb hullcracker anymore. the only heavy weapon parts I can get are from the trader
>>2568672Buy another hullcracker
>>2568715this
>>2568499PVE is even worse with no depth and a lack of meta progression or proper end game. You can basically load fully kitted every game after a while with no clear incentive to reset. Game is mid and never booted up again after ~150h. I got my money worth out of it but Embark clearly lacks vision
>>2568895PvP is still worse because there are actual pvp games there. You obviously don't know that
>>2568908It's not great but fighting players is still more exciting than shooting highly predictable bots.
>>2568955Yeah, that's why people who are good at PvP games and like PvP games play something besides arc raiders.
>>2547395Embark also killed the Finals for those same reasons. Shit balancing and caving to COD brain light "mains" and rampant blatant cheating absolutely killed the fun of the game. I think Embark is decent at making a core gameplay loop, but theyre shit at balance and cracking down on cheating, and tend to listen to the community for balance complaints rather than actual in-game metrics outside of a handful of pet guns or pet equipment.
>>2568895>PVE is even worse with no depth and a lack of meta progression or proper end gameBut you can say the same thing about PvP. Theres no depth in PvP its just ambushes, theres no meta progression, a stitcher can kill a fully kitted raider with a decent mag, and theres no end game.
>PVP is garbage!>PVE is garbagemmmaybe the game is just garbage?
>>2569850It is. Nintendo won. Arc raiders and Sony lost.
next tuesday is supposed to be a real patch with balance changes right? every three weeks was it?
>dam harvester >have way too much loot and forgot my hatch key >fat walking to the extract >some retard tries to kill me >missing most of his shots, but still hitting me first >I defend myself and kill him >White knight sheriff shows up and starts blasting me as well while I'm just checking if he has some healing items on his corpse >Kill the sheriff as well >let's see about those non-somalian lobbies > it's going to be more aggressive but not pvp hell, because I defended myself, right?>stella montis >go in with no loadout >takes over 5 minutes to find a match >instantly killed, somebody was camping nearby spawn points >let's ruin trios for pvp retards>spawn in one guy already throwing blaze grenades >doesn't even check if I have anything good >I have nothing, he's still trying to kill me >tries to kill the other guy >he runs away into other players and dies >griefer survives and we both extract fucking pvp players are so dumb >next match >trio griefer in my team again >doesn't try to kill me this time >other guy is a free kit >still wastes his blaze grenades >freekit is braindead and doesn't get why he is getting damaged >other players kill the griefer >I tell him what's happening >he's so dumb and thinks it was me >picks up fuel and tries to damage me >he takes so long to shoot it that I just shoot it instead with a hairpin that I found >almost killing him with the explosion >he recycles all his gear and runs into an open area and surrenders >other pvp players miss most of their shots and I exfil again thanks for reading my blog
>>2570104C u next Tuesday
>no lower tier arc parts for anything at allI wasted my stash space for nothing. Great.There's nothing to do. I have the snaphook blueprint and bought it with guns just for the fuck of it.300k for that shitty face cosmetic is also way too expensive. I still bought it so that embark puts even shittier stuff on the trader next week.I think I'm done with this game.Nintendo won. Snoy and arc raiders lost.
>>2570435For the price of 6 level 4 hullcrackers, you can buy 1 level 3 hullcracker
>>2570872>>2570435yeah why the heck is the hullcracker on there? you can buy one from the chinese chick.
>>2570966>>2570872It's level 3 and you can technically shove grey weapons in there, but it's an absolutely retarded thing to do. I guess the idea is that you're too retarded to find stuff to upgrade the level 1 hullcracker from the gun lady and buy that instead. Level 1 hullcrackers are perfectly fine.
>>2543213>>2543416I was just passing by when I saw this thread.I left because the game had no depth. Spawn, open boxes, kill or be killed, extract. That's the entire game. You can change the background scenery like slides, add more guns, make weather that fucks with your shields, it doesn't matter. It was fun for about 150 hours, then it started to drag, and I saw the roadmap in January. Nothing there was actually interesting at all.They have zero creative vision. They created a decent foundation and since then all they have done is piss on it.
Loose butthole
>>2571408And all of this because they rushed to release their game before GTA 6 was released and then rockstar delayed GTA.
>>2571408>>2571553it's not like they've managed to evolve the game during the past 7 monthsunless the october update is a total 2.0 rework of the game overhauling>progression>gear balance>map loot distribution>loot in general>gutting the crafting system >adding actual chase items that cant be crafted>loosening up ABMM (it's going to get loosened up organically as the player count drops anyway)>UI>adding an actual endgamenobody is going to wait ANOTHER 6 more months after october if the october update is just a map and a couple of new ARCthe game NEEDS a relaunch if it wants players to return, because nobody is going to come back just to grocery shop some more
>>2571697>>gutting the crafting systemthis is interesting. the crafting system is the foundation of everything. how would you gut it and what would take its place?
>checking blue gate all the time >find dead dupers >free cautious augment It's alright
>>2574081Also good to easily lower your abmm. kos all day every day. Spawn in with nothing. Loot a couple of containers and walk to a hatch. You will be killed on sight
>>2574166And you get killed by cheaters, so another strategy would be to bring good gear and load up your gear into the return message after a cheater kills you to claim it after the expedition.
>We plan to deliver a live update every three weeks. These will vary in size and scope, but we will use each one as an opportunity to address your feedback. In between these live updates, we will still be updating and hotfixing when needed, with store and Trials rotations every week. We believe that this process will give us the time and focus we need to make changes that are important to the community.The past three weeks have been store updates. Doesn't that mean they're late with the live update? I would assume every 3 weeks mean on the third week is the live update.
>>2574599It's next week.
>>2572123I believe that most of the problems with the game's gameplay loop (or rather the lack thereof) comes from craftingThe game having no high tier chase items players will kill each other over? Just craft itGrocery list gameplay? Crafting necessitates a load of low tier crafting materialsPVE lobbies being the most effective way of playing the game? ^ You need a big stock of mats do most thingsQuest and project rewards are boring? It's just crafting materials you can find on your ownBasically the reason why looting is so boring and feels meaningless is because of crafting. And this infects the rest of the game's mechanicsI don't think they have to outright remove crafting, but I do think they need to pull back on the stuff that you can craft. Maybe reserve it for only low tier stuff like grey and green stuffGuns and gear would actually be exciting to find if you had to find them to use them. You can even keep the gun upgrading and make it so only level 1 guns spawn, which would incentivize players to kill each other for their upgraded gunsBecause right now the only loot that matters is blueprints
>>2574851>loot that matters is blueprintsJust craft them
>>2575040???
>>2574599this >>2574766assume when they say something like that it, they push that "timer" to its limit>trader shows 1 day left when theres 2 days left>only starts counting down from 24h once it hits that>but shows "1 day left" for like 47 hours>"february/march/april/may updates everyone!!">they all happened at the END of the month>so technically they were february/march/april/may upates>we'll do major updates every 3 weeks>its been 3 weeks>obviously they meant 4 weeks>major update coming in octoboeryea october 32nd with this track record
>>2575054Your retarded ass said that everything in this game can be crafted. Craft the blueprints then.
>>2575562>Thinking about buying something for 1000 seeds on meta forge and hearing the seller cry over voice chat how he lost it all when he ran to the hatch because of hatch campers on every map >will give me bad rating because he's a retard Not worth it
>>2574851thats a good point. but then the issue arises with big arc, what would you kill them for? should they start dropping guns? removing crafting or even limiting it would have to redo the entire game.
>>2575562No, I said that everything can be crafted and the consequence of that is none of the loot matters aside from blueprints (since they can't be crafted). Retard>>2575865> removing crafting or even limiting it would have to redo the entire game.Yeah, and that's the thing. They need to redo itPretty much the only thing that works with ARC Raiders is the great movement, gunplay and the mapsEverything else is tech demo tier shit with mechanics that barely feed into a functioning gameplay loop beyond opening lockersAnd you mentioning big ARC made me remember another consequence of crafting that would be fixed if we make it less prominentMoney is worthless, and so are the tradersOne solution to big ARC would be to make them more about hunting for money. They'd go from being a small hurdle you get over on your very short path of finishing your workshops to something you actively engage with because you need moneySince you can craft literally anything, the only meaningful way to engage with the game is to open lockers. That's all there is to it. Everything else is flavor for when you're bored of looting
>>2575762>>Thinking about buying something for 1000 seeds on meta forge and hearing the seller cry over voice chat how he lost it all when he ran to the hatch because of hatch campers on every mapthis in case anyone is unaware, the meta right now is to do duos/trios and wait by a hatch for someone running to itkill themand loot like 24 fully upgraded bobcats with all the best attacchmentsit is not safe to trade right now unless you only use the suicide safe pocket method
>>2569658human unpredictability > shooting hunks of metal that were figured out on week 2 with no pushbackcould be better but pve is just objectively more dogshit
>>2576531>kill them>and loot like 24 fully upgraded bobcats with all the best attacchments>it is not safe to trade right now unless you only use the suicide safe pocket methodbased fuck dupers
was there a shop update? I dont want to log in.
>>2577916yea, some new colors on the ninja outfit and a longer hairstyle for girls
>>2543213Finals has been healthy with 11k-14k for months arc will be fine. Shedding tourists who only played because peanut stop getting checks in the mail from Nexon is acceptable.
>>2578218ironically enough, the game will actually play better because the abmm thresholds will loosen up. we can already see this at lower player pops, there are no truly safe lobbies.
>>2577453PvP is objectively more dogshit in arc raiders. Play real PvP games instead, but you're clearly bad at PvP games, that's why you prefer this game where you can get 1 kill after 10 matches
>>2578281pvenigger delusions strike again
>>2577453>human unpredictabilityDive to the left or right after I ambush them then call me a nigger when I kill them?
>>2578321pvp interactions (especially in teams) have more variability than shooting a hunk of metal with a hullcracker center mass until it explodeswhat more is there to say?
>>2577974I think it's supposed to be a He-Man hairstyle, looks pretty close
>>2578618oh lmao
>>2578344Half the fun in expeditioning is dealing with the Arc while building out your inventory again. The pvp is trash, tf2 has more players than arc right now.
>>2578321kek
>>2571697yeah this game is so similar to helldivers 2>good basic gameplay >shit tier progression and gameplay looplike helldivers, unless they drastically change the progression/loop, people will come back for the "big" update then immediately drop it after a week.like helldivers. the only thing you grind for in helldivers is your ship. once youre done, you have nothing else to do except for warbonds. which is funny because embark cant even do that for gods sake, they cant even release a shitty event to grind for or a raider deck. when was the last raider deck like 3 months ago? goddamn.anyways, much like helldivers once people see the new content in the big updates they immediately bounce off because the game hasnt fundamentally changed. we will see what this october update brings but you are absolutely correct, it needs to drastically change the game.
>>2579613that's also applicable to pvp, you fagyou have to deal with the equipment economy on both sides, but on one of them you don't have to worry about losing it making it worthlessthe hobo phase in pve goes away in 2 raids, you are hopelessly retarded
>>2578344>pvp interactions (especially in teams) have more variabilityFreekit literal niggers for 80% of your random fill, 10% "trolls" with blaze nades, 10% actual kits?
>>2580853You are hopelessly coping over a stapled on feature, enjoy your pvp experience getting mogged by a 20 year old game dumb bitch
>>2580880>stapled on>3 years of dev since the swapbraindead faggot
>>2580861i mean actual teamswho the fuck does random fill?
>pve a boring shopping simulator>pvp full of duped bobcats and cheatersbros...i dont think this game is going to make it
>>2580951they gotta do a full reset at this point, the whole economy is cooked beyond belief
I dont want to do trials anymore...
>>2580931Who the fuck still has friends that play this game since it lost 95% of the playerbase?
I got all the good blueprints. Literally no reason to do the trials anymore.
>>2581263the season rewards
pvp fags defending their sucker punch simulator lol
>>2581384A story as old as online gaming. They won't ever stop. Retards still bitch about how PvE players ruined Dune Awakening because the devs kept catering more and more to them and eventually capitulated and split the deep desert into PvP and PvE instances. Now PvPers go in the PvE instance and try to grief there and the PvP instance (gives 2.5x resources btw) is ironically pretty safe from what I hear.
>>2581452>you can swap between instances with no penalty or limitationsthat's like abmm but extra retarded, even tarkov had the brains to fully split economy
>>2581520What precisely is the issue? Do you even play D:A?
>>2581549>give players the ability to generate resources with no pvp>surprised that griefing happens>pvp players left because they cater to pve>all griefing is pvp guys actually
>>2581584>give players the ability to generate resources with no pvpWhat is the problem with this? So many games have resource gathering without pvp. Even the game we're talking about has no pvp for resources in the main part of the game, it was only the deep desert that had it.>surprised that griefing happensI don't think I ever said I was surprised. Niggers gonna nig as always.>pvp players left because they cater to pveThe devs catered to pve because that was the majority of how the playerbase was. The problem was it took about nine months for them to finally have separate instances.>all griefing is pvp guys actuallyAre you saying pvers are the actual ones doing the griefing? Are you a fucking moron?
>>2581584tranime
>>2581622>Are you saying pvers are the actual ones doing the griefing?Oh, you're just clueless and/or actively pretending that "my side good".Sportsfagslop-tier.
>>2581629Explain what you mean then, moron.
>>2581638You can't have your cake and eat it too.
>>2581658Okay, I'm not surprised there are griefers as I already said, I'm only saying it's absolutely pathetic. Now address all my other points. Otherwise, concession accepted.
>>2581664>what about pure pve gamesdidn't ask>boogeymen left>boogeymen things still happen>it must be the boogeymensportsfagslop
>>2581684Concession accepted, nigger.
>>2581706>i am le good guy and i am infalliblewhatever
>>2581710Griefers are bad guys, guy
>>2581722>my side can't be griefers>i am le goodthat's it, that's the entire point
>>2581726If you are griefing, you are a PvPer. That's the definition dude.
>>2581726>the favela monkey shooting people fighting arc and doing quests are actually le good
>>2581733>we are le good>we did a bad?>no, he did a bad!my sides
>>2581745huehuehuehue
>>2581745Yes, going in an instance that doesn't have PvP to do PvP is indeed bad. I don't know why you're glazing griefers so much man.
>>2581754he does that, can't catch a kill unless he's shooting someone digging through trash
>>2581754>bad thing happen>must be the boogeymankekye so, uh>sportsfagsloplul
This is just embarassing. Tranime AND frogposter.
cry about it
maybe Ill do trials tomorrow
>>2581885You going for hotshot this season? Trials skin isnt as cool as last seasons, but it's functionally better if you like skins that blend into dark/forest environments.
I haven't worn the red motorcycle outfit in weeks actually
>>2581889I just want all the base rewards up to daredevil III, I just havent gotten on the leaderboards this week, been too bored to play
>>2581959I too have avoided the game and leaderboards this week. Got the expedition done and it killed my drive a bit.
>>2581988yea the trader hasn't even been that good, finally spent like 200k this week on garbage I wont use, so might have to farm next week if theres more garbage
>>2582001I haven't done any of the trader myself, almost went for the legendary gun stock last week but if I lost it after all that grinding I would have uninstalled
>>2582064I had a bunch of extra shit laying around and got it heard its good with the bettina, so that might be fun
>>2582100get some kills with it for me raider, i found the drive to gather some resources for the last week of trials so I'm going to fuck around topside
>>2580954>they gotta do a full reset at this point, tcant imagine the seethe from the pve dads>NOOOOO IT TOOK ME 400 HOURS TO LEVEL UP MY WORKBENCHES NOOOOOOOOOO
>>2582190casuals whine period, even when things are going their way
Shiiit, I think they removed the orange suitcase and orange battery from the shop, I was going to get it and don't see them locked at the customizatiom screen anymore
>>2582190pve players are doing the expeditions tho, it's just casuals all around that will complain
>>2582302apparently only 1% of players have been doing it1% of what? idfk
>>2582616Steam topped out players at 481k, so 4810 people there plus whatever xbox and playstation are getting
>>2582616really no way? but they have to do a reset, at the very least reset inventories and stashes.
Just launched the game for the first time today and it asked me to install Denuvo Anti-cheat, I did and now I can't connect to any game.These stupid motherfuckers ruined the game and now I can't even ask for a refund.
>>2584282>Just launched the game for the first time today and it asked me to install Denuvo Anti-cheat, IAre they finally rolling it out to everyone?
>>2584302Seems like it, when I played like four days ago it was still EAC.I just uninstalled the game and that Denuvo crap from my PC.No doubt it's doing full screen captures of your PC and sending it to the cloud, a privacy nightmare.
>>2580954Correct. I hope they do that without fixing the dupe glitch.Just fuck every normal player and dupers are barely affected
>>2581328The shitty skins? Wow. What a reward
Xbox chuds stay winning
>>2584925Xbox and Nintendo won. Arc raiders and Sony lost
>>2584350>retarded on purpose>casul crying
>>2585027My economy is fine casual. Keep crying about it though
>>2585042>monke shit flinging
>>2584357nah the other shitty stuff, like retarded backpack awardsor emotes, idk if theres emotes this time
>they're planning to release the china pve mode as some "huge update"
>no work on sundayguess I'll do my trials then
>>2585630It's Chinese companies that develop western games like ARC Raiders and WoW in China. Embark isn't touching it there.
>>2586519nah some fag on reddit "datamined" it or some shitit sounds exactly like that mode but with a different coat of paint
>>2586707oh I misunderstood, that's good they're bringing it then, I heard people thought it was cool
>>2586728yea it could be interesting
>>2581733>running about>pve player>nose deep in someones loot>pvp player>dead on the floor crying>pve player againlol
>>2588007stealing the rocketeer is evil, only one drive and he thinks he is entitled to it
>>2588007That convo was about Dune Awakening not ARC but whatever. Looting isn't griefing, dumb nigger.
>>2588071>he thinks he is entitled to itoh, most of them do, pvenogs are just that, niggers pretending to be "upstanding citizens".>>2588083right on cue lmao
>>2588087>right on cue lmaoYou really aren't understanding, that's pretty impressive. My point is griefing is usually using unintended interactions of mechanics, like multiple thopters on top of a carrier so it can't fly off.Stealing someone's loot isn't griefing but it's still nigger behavior, just like shooting someone in the back is nigger behavior.Slightly off topic, are you that schizo from months ago that thinks people are out to get him and that's why he blurs his names? Lmfao
>>2588099i do not care about your mental gymnastics fag, pve scum calls me all the names after acting like niggers themselves.
>>2588113It's okay if you're not smart enough to follow the simple logic, anon. I hope those meanies stop calling you names!
>>2588140>pve players can't grief because definitionsgullible, naive soifag.
>>2588147That conversation was about Dune Awakening my guy, I don't know why you can't understand that.
>>2588007>doesn't show how he got the rocketeer driver It's because he shoved it up his safe pocket.You're in the biggest carebear lobbies in the world. Imagine being proud of this. A different player in a normal lobby would have killed YOU while you were looting the bombardier>still blurring out his name Go back to trio lobbies, you're too bad for solo lobbies.
>>2588361>thief nigger cope
>>2543416>I don't understand why so many players left.I was reverse boosting into friendly lobbies and raping them. All day long, all night long. Many more people are reverse boosting, decreasing their aggression level, just to shoot friendlies in the back.
>get a $20 script and a $100 Cronus zen device>the Cronus runs on a script and plays Arc for you>your Arc character loads in and dies without dealing Raider damage>you sleep>you wake and low aggression Arc lobbies are ready>put on good gear, rape lobbies>let the Cronus device clean it up>rape the good lobbies againIt was delicious
>>2588361youre mad because he rightfully killed some fucking bum sucking up his loot? should he have requested that he stop doing that? lmao.
What games have you been playing to hold you over until the October update? Been playing Active Matter, Gaijins extraction shooter. Pretty fun, more casual Tarkov but it actually has anomalies and cool pve monsters, like the peanut monster from SCP. Really digging it so far.
>>2589222Poe2
What's the game like for solo players? I was enjoying Marathon but it sucks that solo is an afterthought.
>>2589763easier, safe pockets, ways to exit regular ways through relatively safe extracts, cheap kits are very effective even after the nerfs. abmm too but thats been not as consistent especially during lower player hours as the matchmaking starts to expand its search so safe lobbies are not guranteed now. but even in pvp hell lobbies, you can always leave with something and make an escape.
they ran this shit into the ground
>>2589834>so safe lobbies are not guranteed nowYea get raped
>>2589936I play pretty passive and knocked out 3 pvp shitters across two matches that shot at me first last night, with one bitching about my weapon choice. I don't really want to play the game for pvp and if this is what the game's turning into, this'll probably be the last expedition I go on. If I wanted to play swedish pvp I'd play The Finals.
>>2589962>I play pretty passive and knocked out 3 pvp shitters across two matches that shot at me first last night, with one bitching about my weapon choice. I don't really want to play the game for pvp and if this is what the game's turning into, this'll probably be the last expedition I go on. If I wanted to play swedish pvp I'd play The Finals.If you don't like rats you will probably need to wait for the October update. Too few players now for there to be strict PvE players like before.
>>2589851nah it was just surprisingly popular when it came outand they decided not to capitalize on itthis is pretty normal, if it wasnt super popular with streamers when it released 50k peak is kind of insane
>>2590371I think the experience got slaughtered by devs listening to the wrong retards when it came to balancing the game. No one cane back for the last update that had an entirely new map.
>game keeps trying to pull me into late matchesjust let me queue into a new one holy shit
>>2590542personally I'd say the experience hasn't really changed, and the devs dont actually listen to anyone>we complained about the il toro>and they changed it 6 months later>they DO listennah, they just knew they had to nerf that shit at some point, maybe they have some data like>too many people are dying with il torobut it wasn't because a bunch of redditards cried for 6 monthswhich just makes me feel like they are just doing their own shit, they got a shit ton of money, didn't hire anyone new, and are just treating the game like their indie projectthen again, I'm not on the pvp side, so you could be completely right too if stuff changed over there, but it sounded mostly like balance changes that were needed
>>2590542its what the other anon already said>>2571697people were calling out the shallowness of the gameplay loop in the first week but people didnt listen because>WELL IM A GAMER DAD WHO PLAYS ONE HOUR A DAY AND I THINK YOU PLAY TOO MUCH HUURUMPHeven if the map was amazing, youre still ultimately doing that same loop over and over and the content is not as deep as tarkov. devs did little to change this loop so people naturally get bored and leave, add in rage hackers who never get banned, and the devs announcing 2 updates a year, yeah people stop coming.
>two minute queue for matriarch>forgot to equip heavy fuse grenades>get to hatch>look at time>4:59welp
>>2541875Called the identity crisis, lack of incentives to shoot and rapid downfall back in November. Such a smart guy I am
>>2589936>t. bugdiver
>trying to do heavy fuse trial on matriarch>deadline a bastion and unfortunately thrown off early>nearly die>faggot freekit with kettle I downs menice game
>>2591601oh yea i have to do trials so I dont derank
>>2589008You're mad because he's bad at the game, keep crying.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ArcRaiders/comments/1u5e6ib/new_events_items_coming_to_chinese_version_of_the/The Chinese keep on cookingWhy are Sw*des so lazy?
how do I play chinarc raiders
>>2594335it's supposedly not fully out yet, I think we're just getting info from some playtest but you'll probably need some kind of Chinese ID and VPN for it to work
>>2593822you are jewish
>trying to do bastion trial>fight a rocketeer while I'm waiting>hornet out of nowhere>zapped>rocketed>downed>"this is fin">its not fine>I clipped behind a broken door>and am now stuck there>spend 10 minutes going "hey raider">guy actually finds me>dont have anything valuable>give him my snaphook>he says to keep it and he's about to fight a rocketeer if I want to get out of here>get the fuck out of there
This new trader convinced a lot of people to not carry around defibs anymore. I do sometimes, but I often don't bother bringing a high value kit into harvester events because there are just too many leeches. I shot the leg armor off, you rushed to it, looted it, got downed and expect me to revive you, what? Fuck you.Loot goblin behavior is just way more lucrative and quicker in those lobbies
>>2594333https://www.reddit.com/r/ArcRaiders/comments/1u5l656/new_events_new_items_and_more_in_the_chinese/embarrassing
>>2594333>>2594659one of the comments is work ethic in sweden vfs chinaand I have to wonder if it really is that "bad" in sweden, like people taking breaks all the time, and everyone leaves to take paid time off (that one winter vacation they had)I wonder if they just dont work on the game in sw3eden, maybe like 5 hours a week, that's 1 hour a day, because you cant work weekends, thats inhumane
>>2594686>vfsvs*
>>2594333damn lazy euros
>>2594686I think Embark is a very special case as it's a relatively small studio bordering on indie, and most of the people working there are friends from their DICE timeSo they kind of make their own rules. Good for them, but bad for us as there's no one looking down at them to occasionally crack the whip
>loading up my report claims with loot for the expedition lolNothing else to do besides dying to cheaters in pvp lobbies
>>2595640I heard they stopped refunding kits because people were exploiting it
>>2595697Nope. They refund you still but you get a message if you report dupers and real money traders etc. which I don't do and care about
>>2594659>The current test version of the game allows players to save multiple loadouts and quickly switch between them before starting the game. It also allows players to quickly craft or mark missing items for later acquisitionchinks get loadouts and quick crafting and we get a shitty weekly trader
>>2595959checkedhow might one play chinkraiders? it sounds more fun.
>everyone is killing bastionsdang, I guess I got to hope I get a good spaceport spawn and just sit there for like 10 minutes
>>2596962it worked
>>2590542I'm not sure what the TF2 is trying to prove, its been a bot ridden corpse for the past 8 years.>but they removed sniper botsNot the trade or idle ones. Also valve letting sniperbots run for 8 fucking years is nigger tier lazy.
>no you see, you cant add more devs. it doesnt work like that. they need time to learn the engine and workflow, itll be years before they contribute.meanwhile the chinese looked at the game, learned it in a month and already started cranking out content faster than the main team.seems like euros are lazy and stupid.
>>2590542Because new map doesn't directly mean new content, specially in arc, a new map in arc is a new place to walk in, why? Cause maps in arc are like that, doesn't have any environmental danger or risk like exploding ground or natural damage like thunder special condition so in the end is a place to only walk and look at new places, but arc has low content, small number of weapons, small number of UNIQUE enemies not a ball that fliest or a pop thats outside but actual unique pve enemies, it has a good number of auxiliary items but it lacks in anything else, everyone was hyping the emperor where is he? Nobody really cares about new map if there's nothing new to do there, new map same boring old gameplay.
>>2597591They're also very lazy with the new maps. They just re-use all the old objects, rooms, buildings etc.Riven tides is a badly done map.
>>2597558arrowhead said literally the same and then it turns out they were actively outsourcing all the fucking content that was released post launchmaybe its the same situation here, all the skins, new bots (most likely), new maps etc. are outsourced
whats up with them making trials really stupid
>>2598068why'd they hire so much more staff then
>oh sweet the trader should have updated>log in and check>1 day left>remember that's a fucking lie
>>2597558its really a sweden vs china thingin sweden you get weekends, and bathroom breaks, and they rub your feetbut for real, they have paid time off with that winter vacation we had to deal with for monthschina has the 996 polictyyou work from 9am to 9pm, 6 days a week
>>2598325crazy they have not revamped trials by now
Active Matter has a cool blueprint system. Weapons and equipment are locked behind BPs. To learn the BPs, I think you unlock from the store, which requires levels for certain items or you find the actual weapon in a raid. Then once its unlocked, you have to fully research it all the way through. You can make progress on research via using that weapon in a raid by killing players, monsters, and I think extract with it. Or you can progress research by straight up buying it out. The credits to buy it out come from you recycling guns and equipment found in raids.Obviously I am telling /arc/ this because I wish Arc had something like this. Finding a BP does not come down to luck in Active Matter, you unlock guns by using them or recycling other found weapons to unlock the gun you want. No spending hours finding BPs you already unlocked or dont want. You can grab exactly what you want and it allows you to play the game too, by picking up weapons and recycling them or if you find the weapon you want, surviving with it and using it and extracting with it. Arc needs something like that.
>>2598345It's always on Tuesday. How hard is it to remember that?lmao
https://x.com/ARCRaidersGame/status/2066551307024871876Content? From our lazy Swedish devs?
>>2598598I was checking out Active Matter and was sorta interested until I found out it's a russian game
>>2598996>10 turbine cores>6 faded photographs>10 garlic presses
>>2599001thats fine was more commenting on the BP system they have and how arc could use something like that. donating guns to progress a BP, making it more reliable to get what you want instead of playing the container opening game of chance.
>>2598960I just think the timer is fucking stupid, I check in the morning before work, but once it hits 1 day and 23 hours left (basically yesterday) it say "1 day left" when its clearly 2and when I check it the day before it still says "1 day left"until hours later when it starts counting down from 24 hours
Hey guys, Marathon was WAY too hardcore for me, I tried keeping up with my wife's boyfriend in that game but it gave me so. much. anxiety. I suck! Anyways, they're on a trip to Jamaica right now and I'm allowed to play some Arc Raiders for the week. I'll see y'all in some PVE action!
so they basically abandoned the Decks tab, pretty sure we havent had a new one since february
I've had absolutely zero desire to do this nomad shit, even though the rewards are so good... The idea of grinding arc kills for the billionth time just fills me with dread
>>2599996Marathon and arc raiders lost. Nintendo won
>>2599982Again. For everyone who doesn't have Alzheimer's it's not really hard to remember that embark pushes their updates on a Tuesday. Same thing now with the recent addition of the new trader. Keep seething though, retard
>>2600099nta but it's a shit timer. "it's always on tuesday anyway" does not excuse it. people like you are the reason the standard of quality has dropped so low in videogames as a whole. we should be demanding improvement on everything, always.
>>2600359Shut up gay faggot slave
>>2600099why are you being such a homo about this lmaothe timer is just fucking gay, I will keep seething about it you moron, why do you think I'm posting it anonymously on 4chan and not making a redditard thread going>WWWAAAAH WONT SOMEONE CHANGE THE TIMER JUST FOR ME
>>2599998somehow, the devs over at helldivers are less lazy about making warbonds. arc is not even releasing paid decks. they must really hate money over there.
>>2599998devs abandoned the whole fuckin game
>>2600639>they must really hate money over there.>>2600646>devs abandoned the whole fuckin gamepretty much>game is so popular it has 400k consistent players for months>do literally nothing about it because lol paid vacation
>>2598325Somehow they made the most unfun trials imaginableLet me guess, theres like no cars to loot, no comets spawning, not enough arc for a wolfpack, and turbines spawn less
>never pvp>get ratted trying to farm snitches>3/4 of my health gone before I realize what is even happening, land a few shots but die>get ratted the next game in the same way>decide to try to reset abmm and do passive stella day runs>kos first game>second stella game walk past guy who pulls out his gun>getting annoyed so just kill him, first kill in 4 months. just tired>10+ straight games and going of kos pvpiggers sodomizing eachotherfucking lying swedes. defending yourself still puts you in the gulag. they better deliver on the patch tomorrow
>>2601665pve lobbies are gone, too little people playing. you will get rats now. gonna have to live with that reality.
https://youtu.be/4vJl0N7OQwA?si=ax0T1ltsw82OCmQ8new info about leaks>no clans>frozen trail biggest map ever>frigate possibly biggest thing ever>walkable speranza
>>2601665>he fell for abmm meme
Are we ready for today's disappointment?
https://arcraiders.com/news/live-update-1-33-0it's up>new project>no more free loadouts on night raids and close scrutiny
quick summary from discord
>play for the first time since last week>dam>someone gets downed to rocketeer>defib and kill rocketeer>few minutes later on my way to swamp>killed by bobcat 4>steam profile not set upnice game
>>2601668Harvester events on blue gate are still safe. As long as you stay with the group. Don't hang around to loot. Try to get as much loot as you can and follow other players when the majority of players go to the extract.
I already hate the new project
>>2602365this is honestly how it should be all the time, pve players grouping for protections and pvp players doing whatever they are doing
>>2601226Wrong on all accounts. Got 3 star for the car trial in 7 minutes. Wolfpack is your own fault. Just use snitch scanners. Another easy 3 star.I forgot about the trial on buried city and got 2 stars by accident. I ran out of ammo.
>>2602372nice, maybe they fixed it, there was that computer trial that everyone had trouble 3*
>>2602370I seriously hope they copy that mode in China where everyone starts off on the same team and you can choose to defect and pvp
>>2602383I really don't like the griefing faggotry that it's gonna allow, even now people snatch shit in front of your nose because everyone's fearful about their karma, everybody gets too comfortable with no mutuality.Just nerf the ambush shit somehow, make first shot advantage less of a thing so it's harder to gank or betray in a split second.Watching some bum nab your drivers as you stand there like a cuck for 15s beeping your shit in as he just leaves is gonna be a shit experience.Maybe it's gonna work for queen specifically, but I really don't like it conceptually.
>rocketeer husks laying around everywhere don't give you heavy ammo anymore No, I liked going in with bullshit like a ferro and scavenging them for ammo.
>new trinkets aren't stacking again
>only high value arc parts >nothing sold for guns or low value arc parts Nicely fucking everyone over who hoarded those items in case you can buy something with it.
>found 5 blue ones and not a single grey one yet This rarity is retarded
Didn't play for three weeks, am currently Daredevil I. How much of a pain is it gonna be to hit Hotshot? I see there are about 20 days left anyway.
>>2602165>>2602128no freebies on night raids and close scrutiny? this is huge. also does this mean we can drop items with a click of a button? fucking finally. anyone test it out yet? can we drop stuff that is in a container now? or still need to transfer it to our inventory then we can drop?
>>2602643RNG BABY! This sucks.>Smartly save up trinkets for bullshit events.>Embark says fuck you and introduces new useless trinkets solely to pad out their bullshit event.
>>2602962Let me recycle it into cheaper trinkets. Such an easy solution
>>2603069thatd be great
>>2602752that should be really easy, just 3x promote and you're hotshot, then its just maintaining itI guess if you 2x promote into DDIII you might get stuck with sweats who are also trying to get into hot shot
>>2603402Ah, I didn't know you could triple into Hotshot, I thought it was just a double. Is that just top 5 this week?
whats this
>>2603407i forget how many 3x is for DDIshould be on the trials wiki
>>2603409No idea. Bought it anyway
friendly reminder that these twitch drops end in a couple days
>>2603469Got banned from twitch and I don't feel like making a new account
>>2603473ok thanks for letting me know
Why the fuck did they remove the ability to see upcoming events?
>>2603469Ok, thanks for letting me know.
>>2603513I'm trans btw, forgot to add that to my post here
>>2603516Yeah. You're up to date with twitch drop. It goes without saying that you're trans.
>>2603504they want you to use their website
>>2603443is it a backpack charm or somethign?
>>2603832its a backpack
>>2603504some bullshit about trying to make the events happen in different timezones, so now we're going to have anons posting >"yea close scrutiny guys">nobody has close scrunity right now>except the one indian who is playing
>>2603841oh I see
So if frees are disabled for night raid, and you are higher priority to join a fresh lobby, does that mean late spawns are affected now and there will be less people filling up the late lobbies? Will we finally see reduced late spawning as an official patch note later this year perhaps?
>>2603860>you are higher priority to join a fresh lobby*as a real kit
plebbit is big mad about free kits taking a nerfit's crazy to me how many use it as a crutch for their lack of skills or gear fear
>>2603984its insane because its not like getting competitive gear has a high cost of entry. its two sticks of gum and a piece of rubber to craft a stitcher, some ammo 2 shield chargers and a stack of white bandages. AND you get a safe pocket too. it was always retarded to use freekits.
>>2604015>it was always retarded to use freekits.Right after an expedition is okay in my opinion.
if they had any balls theyd introduce min loadout values for modifiers.
>>2604015>>2604046FK Bus runs on Dam after reset is a great way to stock up on weapons, green augs and metal when you have nothing since you just loot the buses near extract and ptfo, but after maybe 6-8 runs you just don't need it anymore. Now if only they'd remove them from being able to queue into Harvester/Matriarch the devs might come off as slightly less retarded.
hows the new update
>>2605149>teeny bit of polishnothingburger
>>2605193but all the stupid ass trinkets to collect
>>2605197>no core gameplay issues fixedi mean it's stuff to do, but i won't be grinding it daily as on release
>>2604015it's entirely psychological, which is why the plebbit outcry is purely an emotional responsethese people dont want to risk their gear, they hate knowing they're putting their own stash value on the line going into a raidit's the same kind of people crying for a pve mode, they all bought the wrong game
>>2606231>game genre about "the gear cycle">want to avoid "the gear cycle" entirelywhy did they do that to themselves
>>2606331this game somehow got the reputation as the casual extraction shooter and retards took that as an invitation to piss and shit themselves over pvp
>>2606349This really fucked the game, extraction shooters are hardcore genre, but many retards went saying "arc respects your time, you can be a dad gamer with low time and have fun!!", and a wave of casuals came after seen the cinematic gameplay on youtube videos, they hate pvp or the threat of losing gear in a game that was marketed as pvpve and is a extraction shooter thar are heavy time consumer cause you will be losing gear over time and looting/killing to get back, they think this shit is helldivers or another pve game, this game doesn't even got enough content to be playable as full pve wtf.
>>2606662The pvp is dogshit you fucking indian
>>2606669And so is the pve, look at any other pve game you will get at least 3 times more content per area than arc, and you only say the pvp is bad cause you don't like it and want only to consume the pve part of the game, division 2 pvp is dogshit but I don't go around complaining about it, but you are for sure mad someone enjoy something you do not.
>>2606662>they think this shit is helldiverstourists, unironically.if you scour the web you're gonna see "coming from helldivers" a lot.that game really fucked up "people's" brains thinking they can hold the devs hostage
boy do I love these shitty projects that want me to collect a bunch of junk items that don't stack and clog up my stash as I find them out of orderwhy the FUCK can we not commit items for every page instead of just the one you're currently on
>>2606939not sure if the project is worth. skins are kinda dogshit and if i want coins, ill just buy some space coins because i have a big boy job. fuck loading into bird city 100 times to find these stupid ass trinkets to finish the event with the shitty skin.
I thought they fixed major events but I looked at the full timeline for the loot buffing ones and nope, this is just a fluke
>>2608275Regular raids are boring. They changed the harvester times now and I won't be able to do them this week.
this project kind of sucks if you dont care about the outfit at alland its only like 100 coins
>>2608503>this project kind of sucks if you dont care about the outfit at allyup, one of those dumb cult outfits, pass.
>two people I bought the game for told me they requested a refund because the game wont launch anymorethey fucked this game up so god damn bad holy shit
>>2608714it's just a bug happened the same when I bought it, I had to edit the bat of easy anti cheat to it then install.
>>2608714i hate retarded friends>friend describes game he wants>buy him a game that does that>he refunds it because he didn't want a story mode he wanted an endless mode>"That's why you choose endless mode instead of start the story, it has the mode you are talking about and want">oh well, I already refunded it
how difficult are the trials
>queue timer going for too longnope out of that queue
>>2608714Don't buy things for ungrateful retards
>>2608714Don't buy things from ungrateful retards
>this wolfpack trial is going to be so gay>people just cheese it with snitch scanners
>>2613655>using tools provided by the game in the way they are intended to be used (summoning enemies to 1 location) is cheesingNo
>>2612046Easy outside the turbine one which is RNG and a pain in the ass considering you need two deadlines to 3 star.
niceno idea if I'll do the turbine trial, seems gay
lmao fire the devs and leave the chinese in chargehttps://youtu.be/8mbXdcTNTS0?si=FOrG_WALNaGDtfE6
>>2613973
>>2613991>more retarded shitslop
>>2613973cant wait until we get this stuff :DDD
>>2614087>>more retarded shityes, we need more retarded and wacky shit, anything at all. not leave us with our nuts hanging until october.
>>2614265i will keep saying that using matchmaking for segregation instead of moderation is peak retardation but you can keep copingas for content itself, yeah why not, albeit with some polisha lot of current existing things could simply be reworked or merged with the chinese versions instead of bloating the game with useless junkincreased content viability is basically the same thing as new content
>>2614269NTA but please refer to>>2554149
>>2614628>keeps coping
>>2614630go back to tarkov
>>2614667>more cope
>>2614671I don't think you even know what that means, frognigger
>>2614675>even more copeyes yes, "dying le bad" we've all heard it for a thousand times
>>2614678>buzzword
turbine trial is so gay
>>2613973I hate your Swedish devs so much it's unreal
>>2615084we hate them too dude>wow our game is surprisingly popular>we just thought it would be a throwaway indie game>oh well, lets still treat it like that, 2 month paid vacation everyone!
They really need to do something about this cheatingI had a guy who came onto me really aggressively at the start of the raid by the security checkpoint on Stella and I managed to get some good damage into him to scare him away, and so I decide to get out of thereI take a really out of wack route through offside tunnels and doors to make sure I'm not going to run into anyone, occasionally waiting by a doorway for a little while to listen if someone's after meI make it to the extract by the seed vault and activate it, kill a shredder and then go into itAnd wouldn't you believe it, as soon as I start tapping on the computer THE SAME GUY suddenly starts firing at me from behindI can only assume this guy's been tracking me, because there is no way we coincidentally ended up at the same extract at the same time. And the only way he could have pulled that off is to have taken the same route as me but that means I would have heard him, or he was wall hacking and just took a quicker route I did kill him though and he was pretty loaded with gear, so I assume he's been going around killing a bunch of people that match
>>2621271sorry but summer solstace, see you in octoberbut on a serious note, theyre starting to push out the devuno AC to more people. dont think that will change much but hopefully it does when its out to everyone.
>>2621271>>2621717thisthey're trying to slow roll the anti cheat so they dont get false positives
>cant grind hard enough for the random shit rascal blueprint needslet me guess, survivor blueprint 1 week before expedition
>>2625673>rascalbut why? tong weng sells a much better rascal every day. no BP needed.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ArcRaiders/comments/1ubbw3i/the_sociopathic_dedication_some_people_have_to/AAAAAIIIIIIIIEEEEEE EMBARK STOP THEM, I GOT KILLED BY A KID, WHERE IS MY PVE MODE EMBARK AAAAAAIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEholy shit r*ddit is pathetic
>>2543416>all games already lose 80% of their player base post launch period>this one was boosted way beyond its niche genre's normal numbers bc an aspect grabbed the tiktok public's attention>way bigger drop than usual due to temp players>settles into top of its genreIt had 15 minutes of fame in the spotlight and now it's back down to what's normal, people don't get why things don't stay 200% popular forever
>>2626753
>>2626753pvpnigger lost
I CANT FIND AN ELEPHANT OBELISK
Haven't played it for a single minute. In a week. Sony and Arc raiders lost. Nintendo won
Giving up maintaining hotshot this week
>>2626237i just want all the blueprints eventually when I'm done with expeditions, I have an alt thats consumed most of them and holding onto duplicates
>last 2 weeks of trialsfinally
>>2631122>I'm accidentally in hot shot againFUCKI guess I'll care about the stupid army camo color for 2 weeks
>>2631209This seasons hotshot reward is worth going for if you're around that rank already, seems more practical than the loud red suit from last season. I was going to call it quits but two good runs put me in top 60 for maintenance.
damnthis is the first week I didn't buy everything from the traderbut looking over it, it was more collecting weird shit instead of actually farming big arc>already like the backpack I use>never use backpack accessories anyway
Dead game. Where the fuck giant crabs super bosses with a size of mountains, where the fuck some cool unique PvE missions. This is the only thing that can save the game bc everything else is just mid and after 50-100 hours is just boring and no amount of samey small robots or guns or maps will save this. They had great vision at the start but they have no balls to do something really cool.
meh
>>2632524>accidentally killed a popFUCK
does beachcombing get you the new trinkets, or is it still boats
>trying to find a spectrum analyzer for the last hour>pretty sure it only spawns at night like the magnetron and increased spawn rate of ion sputter>only time its night raid is when I'm at workcool casual game
>lets do pops trials>every single place pops used to spawn has a 3-5 shredders>have to spend more time playing peek a boo with the fucking shredder than actually killing a popFun.
>>2633061barricade kits asshole
>>2633279Youre still playing peekaboo just with a kit instead of a wall if you want to get past them.
>trails is a shit end game >the last 12 people playing the game only do trials
>>2633697its the only endgame besides the shitty trader
>20 day old threadholy fucking dead game
>barely did any trials >Still daredevil 3, not demoted No triple Promotion into hotshot for me then.This game is dead by the way. Nintendo won. Arc raiders and marathon lost.
>accidentally run into 4 leapersmore score for me I guess
>>2633061You're PvE lobbies, bro? Just carry a hullcracker around and kill them in two shots.
how get metal brackets
based
this is why I do trials, I never find these
>>2634957I got mine from a trial. Right after the expedition. It's the only reason to do them in my opinion
Oh you guys moved here. I never come here.
>>2635029no one comes here
>search apartments during harvester
>>2634957I found 2 yesterday without even trying (EMS Reinforced Reception, Night Raid Stella in Business Center). They are pumping drop rates like usual before the expedition.
>>2634745Car
I hate hunting trinkets, I know I still have a whole month, but its so boring
>>2635172You're right. I went to vee, came, and came back here.
looks okay
>just want to do my daily missions >because it's mindless busy work and I like it >return from wherever the fuck are obviously the easiest >join a lobby and instantly leave >exfil campers are everywhere now and I can't do my daily missions, tells me how I'm ruining the game because I'm duping while knocking me out in the elevator >knocks me out and exfils, doesn't even get my level 1 kettle well done, dupe hunters. I have a kettle. I'm totally duping in a solo lobby, dude.Sony and arc raiders lost, Nintendo and pvpheets won.
>>2635295I'm stuck on air refreshers. Can't find 1.
>>2636462found mine in that room down the zip below the medical area on stella montis
>>2636464I know where they are. They're kind of everywhere. I'm just unlucky.
Damn, you guys had to move to /vm/? That's rough. If that isn't indicative of the state of the game then I don't know what is. RIP Arc, great FOTM that lasted three months instead of one, should not be a surprise to anyone that the swedecucks ran it to the ground and decided it would be a great idea to take the money from Arc sales and immediately invest it into two other games to start working on. What keeps you guys playing?
>>2636471too many anime gacha games with constant bumping, there is basically no gooning in thie game, so our thread is 99% people talking about the game
>>2636471>What keeps you guys playingNo endgame or the shitty endgame (trials and the new trader) have made me stop playing actually. I'm waiting for the expedition, will be my last one. Haven't touched it in 10 days
>watch old arc raiders content >there are cutscenes for each map after you unlock it >they removed this content Wow, thanks, I guess
>>2636481it was probably AIthats what it felt like, there were no people, it was just a slow pan scenic view of the area
>>2636471Some of the most popular games ever have no generals on /vg/. Threads there are indicative of nothing that actually matters
>>2636482And some lore tidbits, Apollo or whoever talking a bit. The lore is retarded and makes no sense, maybe these cutscenes are hidden in the codex somewhere which another useless and shitty part of the game, but you're right better delete that too.
>>2636458There are some real fucking retards that play this game. Every nerf since the game launched is actually balancing! They balanced it into the fucking grave.
>>2636513only change I disagree with is Trailblazer, but I'm probably just bad at throwing them, but I pretty much never see them anymore after that update
>nothing worth buying this week
>>2636513I still chuckle to myself thinking about an absolutely retarded samefag agreeing with himself that PvP lobbies are the best ones when you do harvester and matriarch events. Peak retardation. It was very popular and a lot of very stupid people play this game
>>2636380that actually looks cool
>>2636513does anybody care about balance when theres no content? retard
>>2635029why cant our raiders look like this
>>2636773sorry your dogshit game is dead faggot but at least you begged for this
>>2637008>no content crying everywhere>even this threadclinical retardation but okay
>>2637013we know you're clinically retarded
>>2637154you'd be the same type of faggot to parrot that games don't need balance at all because it's PvE
>>2637163bro i hope they make the benches 5 levels but dont actually give you new shit, that would save this dogshit game
>>2637275They need to add blueprints for benches and their upgrades >Didn't find the gear bench blueprint?Tough luck , you can't make the gear bench This would save this game
>>2637286Instead of consuming blueprints for nothing, you should have all the items in your inventory before you can consume them. It would be a necessary resource sink.
>>2637275what the fuck are you talking about, you massive faggot?
>>2637310think its the anon booty blasted they dared to nerf the torro and made the wolfpack more expensive
>>2637583They should nerf more, bring the player counts down to 10k
>>2637644see there you are. sure if they gave everyone free wolfpacks and had anvils one tap bastions, the game would have a billion players right now. its not because the devs took a 2 month christmas break, added shit content and allowed rage cheaters to run rampant and a broken gameplay loop that people called out in the first week of release. its because you need a rocketeer drive to craft a wolfpack. thats what did arc raiders in.
How the fuck does Helldivers 2 still have a general but Arc Raiders had to move here?
>>2637681go back to your ramboslop general
>>2637681helldiver devs are constantly ragebaiting and instigating flame wars inside the community
>>2637723im pretty sure they just release enough slop (trillions of warbonds with mild weapon variants) to create the illusion of gameplay and give players wins for free by neutering enemies every patch so it "feels good"popularity is often the opposite of quality
>>2637681Helldivers 2, marathon, arc raiders, GTA 6 and Sony lost. Nintendo won
>>2636636it is cooljust wish the oxygen mask thing wasnt tied to the helmet
https://www.reddit.com/r/ArcRaiders/comments/1udbu0b/unofficial_yet_fourth_expedition_project_5_skill/
>>2638010+20 means you can get both SB and mobility nodes with some mild compromises100k in the last 2 weeks is extremely gay, again. just make it 2 mil for the whole season ffs
>>2638068i mostly care about the skillpoints, this would effectively get me all the skills I want, maybe one more after I forgetbut 2 weeks feels like forever when you finish the damage challenge on the first day
>>26380105 more is perfect for me, I just want the major yellow ones, and 5 would get me thatI kins of want Loaded Arms, but I actually hate that perk right before it, A Little Extra, im probably just retarded or something, but I hate the noise of shit dropping at my feet while breachingI saw someone breach a regular door, and metal scraps dropped at his feet, just seems really annoying
>>2637669arc nerfed free kits, early game weapons, and increased resource costs that sent player counts spiraling and you're here larping like it didn't lmfao
>>2638501content. every single fucking live service game comes and goes with content wavesalso>implying you have to pander to the most retarded niggers at the cost of everything elsekek
>>2638557>i want to shoot retards>stop pandering to retards!hello king retard
>>2638583>things nobody ever said for 50keep coping, it's healthy... sometimes.
>>2638501>free kitsWho the fuck uses free kits past 3 hours into the game?
>>2638613faggots with no understanding of risk-reward and crippling gear fear
>>2638613Indians. They were the backbone of the playerbase.
>>2638613normalfags think its the way you are supposed to play pvp
>>2638501>arc nerfed free kits, early game weapons, and increased resource costsyou are so dumb. greys got nerfed in SS, which was end of february. you wanna know the player count by that update? around 224k. more than half the players gone before the first nerf to early game weapons. people left because of the bigger issues that people >>2571697 pointed out during the early weeks of the game. that is why. if anything people left because nerfs to the guns like the torro, venator and triggers did not happen fast enough. The torro finally got its deserved nerf in the middle of march. so it took embark close to 6 months to nerf the torro. 6 months of 2 tapping from 30 meters out. that is why people left. the shallow gameplay loop. the weak content additions. the horrible balance issues that embark needed 6 months to fix despite people knowing that a green shotgun should not 2 tap blue shields from a mile away 2 weeks into the game. not because deadlines needing a comet part to craft.dont get me wrong, i have no doubts there were retards like you that left because of the deserved nerfs but the majority of players left because of other far more legit reasons as already explained by others in this very thread.
>>2640113just ignore the faggot, he's likely a hd2 expat where they bully their cuckold devs to constantly nerf enemies and buff players so they can feel good about themselves; just a couple weeks back they reverted a buff to an underpowered enemy after just 16 hours because feels were hurt, it's learned behaviour.same type of niggers that would scream that "muh pve needs no balance bix nood"
Pathetic
>>2640403>fix the issue with thing?>no, remove thing entirely!amazing
>>2640113im in hotshot and you are a bitch
>>2640148>just ignorelmfao yes just ignore me shitting down your necks, no content and killing early game accessibility for the sake of a 5% buff on purple/pinks was worth the 400k player sacrificeYou faggots even celebrated the pink photocloak and anvil legendary mod getting nerfed because you retards are mind cucked by players having any sort of advantage
>>2640505>anvil legendary mod getting nerfedhave you been molested or you just can't read?
>>2640505>and killing early game accessibility for the sake of a 5% buff on purple/pinks was worth the 400k player sacrificeagain, by the time of that update nerfing greys and wolfpacks, more than half of the players left. it wasnt because of the nerfs you big crybaby.
>>2640516Waiter, more nerfs please! The entire playerbase is going to be cantina legends soon.>>2640592Cold snap nerfed xp, economy, and player movement. Be a dumb bitch somewhere else.
>>2640610>raped by balance changessplitter wasn't nerfed you're making shit up on the spot
>>2640616>anvil, the only weapon that the splitter works on, gets nerfed>brooo, the legendary attachment wasn't nerfed, you just can't use it as much because the weapon it goes on was turned to shit.>what, you want a pink pistol for it to go on instead? What is this, smell divers? >Waiter! More nerfs and a summer christmas vacation please!nerf raiders general
>>2640620>calling the whole game nerfed because he can shoot his gun 5% lessopinion discarded
>>2640621I look directly at patch notes before proceeding to shit down your throat, I'm totally fine with you and your boyfriend coping.
>>2640625we had an anon posting detailed charts for weapon durability and you chose to ignore them to continue your tantrum, please kys
>>2640627>embark directly stating they're reducing xp, economy, increasing crafting costs, and reducing weapon durability since the very first patch are actually... not nerfs!sure thing fag
>>2640630>not even pretending to be retarded at this point
>>2640633you don't have to get over your dilusion but I'm not going to play pretend with you
>>2640610>>2640616Cold Snap was actually a sign of things to come
>>2640610>Cold snap nerfed xp, economy, and player movement. Be a dumb bitch somewhere else.i forgot because those nerfs were so inconsequential that you think those were the cause of half the players is laughable. not to mention, the game reached 466k players AFTER the patch and slowly started to decline months later because of >>2571697 said as the gameplay loop quickly became stale. they could have had the anvil last for 4000 shots, do 100 damage per shot, give raiders an extra 500% more stamina and the players would have still tumbled because of the mentioned gameplay issues, not because they capped the raider deck points to 800 and a slight nerf to slide stamina.
>THEY NERFED ME BY HALF OF A PERCENT>ITS OVERthis cunt is still here huh, I wonder why he doesn't follow his own advice
>wow arc has no endgame, cheaters and torro+trigger meta for 80% of the games lifespan, no chase items, no content, recycled and lazy maps+arc design. is this why players left?>NO ITS BECAUSE I CANT SHIT OUT 1000 WOLFPACKS ANYMORE AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>2640836>entire game is abusing pve farming for a week and not touching it till expeditionwonderful design amirite
>>2640751>death by a thousand tiny cuts isn't actually deaththe cope on embarks "balancing" is unreal, fags will cry while consulting some retards weapon durability burn chart but straight up ignore raw data in >>2640657
>>2640795>you can only maintain hotshot if you fellate the swedish devs dogshit patchesslit your wrists retard
ohhhh this cutie patootie's throwing a tantrum, so mature of him
>>2641249>grocery simulator is fine if they didn't nerf my arc delete buttontapping the sign, again >>2571697
>>2641340here's a sign>>2640657hope this helps!
>>2641424>map>big event>no content>no content>no contentare you an idiot?
>>2641249the raw data that you claimed death by a thousand tiny cuts, one of the highest peaks following the patch and the patch itself containing more buffs than nerfs, that data? the data shows that it was losing players far before any "problematic" nerfs. the data shows that people got bored with the game, as they should, not because the anvil lost 30 shots in durability.
The devs can't even be assed to put out a new raider deck, paid or free and you think the game lost players because the kettle RPM went from busted to reasonable. Or the 2 tapping torro being nerfed 6 months later was actually a bad thing. Or ABMM turning this game into a boring shopping simulator. No, needing to kill big arc to get big arc killer weapons, that killed the game. Not the lazy events where you participate in the most boring part of the game, clicking E to open loot containers to complete said event. Not that, but the devs daring to tone down the OP hullcracker, still the best PvE weapon in the game btw.
>>26414361st patch buffs>motion core/circuitry @ refinery lvl 2 vs lvl 3>rocketeer thruster xp 200 to 500>leaper leg xp 200 to 5001st patch nerfs>wolfpack more expensive to craft>motion core/circuitry craft increasealready shitting on you from just patch notes>launcher ammo cost increase>spotter relay sell value reduced>security lockers loot value nerfed>damage xp vs big arc reduced>arc part xp reducedyou can argue the "nerfs were needed", but you faggots love sidestepping the fact this game's lifespan has been majority nerfs. I get why you cope considering I'm still hotshot.
>since the dawn of time good games relied on the feeling of novelty together with friction meant to be overcome by players for satisfying rewards>this nigger is mad because his braindead routine in a thrice solved game got interrupted by a change meant to bring some semblance of integrity to the situationget this faggot out of here"content" does jack fucking shit because all of it is prematurely solved by a repetitive and brainless gameplay loop that if played efficiently avoids almost every part of the game outside of pressing E on containers for days on endIT DOESNT FUCKING MATTER if we get 20 new fucking maps, as long as the game remains a faggot-tier looting sim with abusable core systems like abmm and no incentive to do anything beyond that, which reduce every other aspect of the game to 0, THE GAME WILL REMAIN DEAD
>i want to pvp>and by pvp i mean shoot retards digging through garbage
>>2641523i couldnt find those changes in cold snap. those nerfs before cold snap sure didnt mean anything to people as the game kept a lot of players until they quickly burned out of the game because lol what is good game design by the swedes.https://arcraiders.com/news/cold-snap-patch-notesand no notable nerfs following cold snap until SS. where again, players were dropping not because of nerfs but because the gameplay loop was solved within the first week and nothing changed to it since then.
>>2641561retard
>>2641561pvpniggers really are mentally ill
>>2640505>You faggots even celebrated the pink photocloakwhy lie
>>2641804NTA but people said the initial nerf that made it almost entirely unusable was fine lmaohttps://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/564771104/#565121264https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/564771104/#565068174https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/564771104/#565106371
>>2641924idk if those retards even play the game or are bad faith actors funposting about everything getting nerfednobody liked the photoelectric cloak nerf
>>2641626stupid bitch
>>2641964>goalposts: movedniggerfaggot
dont make a new thread now, still have 5 pages to go but the new thread number will be #137#137#137#137#137
>>2642051do you like having autism?
anyone actually going for cantina legend?
>>2641994
>>2642275>sar ther arr no narfs sarrr
>sarrrr narf raiders playercount vary vary good basterd benchod
Okay guys, same time tomorrow?
>>2642415I'm on right now trying to figure out the cantina legend cutoff but metaforge isn't showing peoples scores anymore
>>2642219just hot shot, I figure I'm not sweaty enough for cantina>>2642455Embark changed the API again, so all sorts of stuff is messed up, you cant authenticate your embark ID either for trading, so its just trust+reviews
where find blue colorful shoes
arc raiders on switch 2??
>>2641924one of those is mine :^)I still think it was fine, the photo cloak is an OP item and makes you invulnerable against ARC
>>2641924>>2644374everybody seems to gloss over the fact that gadget energy now regens 3 times as fast
>>2644374Making the tool unusable wasn't the answer. It needed a nerf and where it is now is fine.>>2644394No one is glossing over that. It just doesn't change the fact that it was almost entirely unusable. Better to snaphook away twice than to be invisible for several seconds while fucking walking, not even running.
I still think they should change the recipe for light ammo. Recipe for one bullet of light ammo should be a matriarch and queen core.This would save arc raiders. Otherwise... Nintendo won.Arc raiders, GTA 6 and Sony lost
>>2644668>>2644675keep coping
>>2644787>He disagreesKeep coping.
>>2644799coping faggots don't deserve a coherent answer
>>2644787buzzword
>>2638501expedition blog is outnew skinnew rewardsno new skill pointsstill same damagepretty good i guess
This will likely be my last expedition (3rd). Rate my Vault. I also have 2 more Survivors, a Seeker, and Deadline BP in inventory I could add.
oh no no no here are your fourth expedition requirements bros hAHAHAHAhahAHAhttps://arcraiders.com/news/the-fourth-expedition>no more skillpoints>stash expansion will stop with the 5th expedition>scrappy and repair buffs are capped at 3 expeditions and you'll lose them if you don't do 2 expeditions in a row>but you'll get 5 random blueprints and 150 meager raider coins for your efforts!
>>2645448oh yeah, the blueprints are just temporary, it's not like you get 5 permanent blueprints you retain through expeditions in the future, embark can't be TOO generous :^)
>>2645448nooooooooooo thats so gaay
>>2645448>>scrappy and repair buffs are capped at 3 expeditions and you'll lose them if you don't do 2 expeditions in a rowwe already knew this
>>2645448I guess i do the 5th expedition and max my stash with ermal, get all the bps and uninstall this game. I finished it at the that point
>>2645677by that point it will be october, and they should have a bunch of new stuff>expedition 4 = july and augest>expedition 5 = september and octoberand then knowing embark>Frozen Trails releases Oct 32nd
>>2645775Couple of new items ( a gun, new useless item like the landing whatever the fuck it's called) 1 new map and maybe 2 new arc. Wow. And 5 more quests. Steam concurrent players around 10k and this general will be dead
>>2645788if you're the anon I replied to, I like 100% games too, I just meant they mentioned adding some sort of new progression system and revamping expedition rewards, so you may be stuck maxing that out, or if you care about expedition rewards
>>2645805I got the s-rank on Xbox and I had all bps at one point, this game became stale. I don't care if people go on vacation. They should hire more people who work while the other part of the team is on vacation tho.
>>2645448oof, maxing out stash at only 5 expeditions? then what the hell is going to motivate people to do it then? some shitty skin? (this new skin actually looks really cool but they need something more than a skin) they better start giving out 1000 raider bucks per expedition when we max out our stash space.
